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Talk:Diaper Sunrise

AbdiViklas — Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:29:07 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* White noise—reference? */ good lord, I've forgotten how to sign

==Music Video?==
So... would this be considered a music video? I mean it is a song, and the way the transcript is laid out currently makes it seem like one. [[User:TheOneAndOnlyDanky|TheOneAndOnlyDanky]] 22:33, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
:I'm down for anything that adds more categories to the page. It's looking oddly bare down there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
::So does it warrant a visuals page? It’s less than a minute long so no clue if it’s worth it or not [[User:TheOneAndOnlyDanky|TheOneAndOnlyDanky]] 23:15, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

== White noise—reference? ==

I'm intrigued by the so-called "white noise." I feel like we've heard it before? Like, a vacuum cleaner maybe? Or maybe it just stirs memories of The Paper, especially laser-jet version? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:29, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Diaper Sunrise

AbdiViklas — Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:28:26 GMT

AbdiViklas: /**/White noise—reference?

User talk:AbdiViklas

AbdiViklas — Wed, 03 Mar 2021 02:05:46 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Hello Stranger */ Human contact!

=='''Explanatory note'''==
On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from '''notstrongorbad''' to '''AbdiViklas'''. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

==Toolbox==
For my use and whoever else finds it helpful:
*[[Wikipedia:List of XML and HTML character entity references|HTML character references]]
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thanks abdi--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 14:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Welcome! You've Got Mail ==
Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

=== Petition ===
We, the undersigned, do beleive it <strike>would be</strike> ''is'' very cool to see a [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] user page. ''Moreover, we sincerely thank ''notstrongorbad'' for writing such an amazing user page!'' (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC) ''KL''
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
*{{User:The Paper/sig}}
*{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}
*[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]
*— {{User:Lapper/sig}}
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=== Yay! ===
I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
::LOL. Nice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Can you help me? ==

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai
:     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; [[Help:Contents|Help]] is mostly on ''how'' to do things, [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] more on ''what'' to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at [[Help:Contents#Specific Help]]. 
:     But to answer your question: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in [[Talk:geddup noise|that email's Talk page]], and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into [[Template:STUFF/geddup noise|Stuff]], using the process described in [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference]] is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know. 
:     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in [[do over]], there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible [[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29|Family Guy reference]]. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|continue the debate]]. 
:     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape. 
:     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on [[guitar]]. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Tha Lyrical Flow==
Hey, '''notstrongorbad''', just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the ''same time''? Can it be ''done''? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), ''no'' talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called '''grad school''' (imagine [[origins|jittery green text]] plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? '''No one knows when to come in.'''") 
:     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::'''nsob''', I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of [[Wikipedia:The Descendents|The Descendents]] and the [[Wikipedia:Dead Kennedys|Dead Kennedys]], so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in [[comic]] for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, ''much'' easier to deal with than an actual drummer.

:::For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, [[Wikipedia: The Alkaline Trio|The Alkaline Trio]], except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator ''so'' authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::'''Abdi''' - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., ''prima donnas''), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

:::::nice. just nice. next there'll be a guitar that gets hangovers and doesn't even ''show up'' for practice. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Heimstern responds! ==
Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==New name==
Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::That better? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw [[HRWiki:Changing username|Changing username]] after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from Schuminweb ==

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. [[User:Schuminweb|Schuminweb]] 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalization... It used to be so coooool... ==

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! ''{said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Rant re TGS 10 ==
''{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}'' 
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking [[Talk:geddup_noise#Rant_Re:_Reality|at length]]. I can feel it coming. 
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction ''within'' the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in [[comic]], it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices). 
     ''On the other hand'', several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—'''now'''—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself ''into'' the interior fiction, then causes his representation ''in that world'' to interact with its characters, then interacts ''himself'' across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees. 
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the ''first'' time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact '''not''' Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF nuances==
Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a ''huge'' problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC chatroom]] sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. How are ya? When there's more than one STUFF revision, it's not necessary for you to completely move your vote. You should just decline one revision and accept the other. (You could also decline more than one revision, should you choose.) When one of the votes is close, it's actually better if you don't remove yours from the list. The only thing that isn't currently allowed is for someone to ''accept'' more than one revision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you for the welcome. ==

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--[[user:Kookykman|The Kooky One]][[User talk:Kookykman|(talk)]] 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Note to Self ==

Cheat talk standardized through Puppet Time. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Pages that need serious work, or completion, if I (or anbody else for that matter) happen to be bored:'''
*[[Happy Trogday]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit Visuals]]
*[[Ballad of The Sneak#DVD Version]]

'''Issues to check in on from time to time:'''
*[[Mellow Mushroom/The Sun Almost Rises]]
*stripe-ed etc.
*teenage variations

== Duffrence ==

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

:If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read [[HRWiki:User space]]. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

:Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.

== slight mistake ==
Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto [[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82's]] talk page.—[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::None at all. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Dude... ==

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was ''our'' Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07!
--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/ fanstuff wiki]? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner
:Cool. Yeah, I ''used'' the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Five tildes makes the date? 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC) FIle that under "Things I Didn't Know About MediaWiki"! Anyhoo, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm somewhat active on Wikipedia, so I know my way around a wiki. I came here for a bit of fun ;) {{User:Thetorpedodog/SIG}} 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's how I separated my name from the date on my welcome template! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks AbdiViklas! (just so you know, I was the one who created the real-world references for DVD version on [[garage sale]], but if you look in recent changes it shows an IP) I realized you left me a welcome message on my talk page (I am on2see, I can't get Firefox to remember wiki cookies (any help appreciated)) Thanks again! [[User:On2see|On2see]]
:Glad you got a username! Now then—you mean you're having a problem staying logged in because Firefox won't use the cookies? (And by the way, brownie points and good karma to ya for using Firefox!) For me, if I go to the '''Tools''' menu, then '''Options''', then the '''Privacy''' tab, I find the controls for cookies. My settings are "allow sites to set cookies," "for the originating site only," and keep "til they expire," and it seems to work fine for me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I changed my settings, but now on some pages it shows I am logged in (ex. on the page that shows right after I log in) and, well, ''sometimes not...'' (ex. right now as I am editing your talk page, it shows my ip address and also says '''create an account or log in'''... But thanks for the quick response! You're my favorite Wikipedian (really!) Thanks, [[User:on2see|on2see]]
:::Thanks! But what you're experiencing is still odd, and it would be nice to get it tracked down. One other thing: when I sign in, I usually select the "remember me" checkbox (since I'm using my own computer in my own apartment); if I hadn't, I'd need to sign in each time I re-open my browser. If you're using a private computer you might try that. Beyond that, you'll need the help of those who know more about these superboxes than I do, to figure out why your cookies are crumbling. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad = Marzipan ==

Hey Abdi! Yeah, I originally heard the song say "Strong Bad ''is'' Marzipan" also... I, too, thought that was weirder than weird. So, you're not alone. Crapfully yours, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC) ''{comment continued in next thread}''

== T-shirt pitches==
Hey, as a theory type, I was just muddling over whether there were any rhyme or reason to the pitches selected for the t-shirts in the store? I was on the verge of doing a set analysis, but somehow my sense of perspective must have put in an unwonted appearance. I mean, it's probably just Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic--but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to accidentally fit some complicated explanation! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:I wondered that myself. For awhile, I thought it was a whole tone scale, but I found that wasn't correct. So, after reading your question, I decided to use my theory chops (and that neat little trick called absolute pitch) to find out what it is. Here's what I got: A-B-C#-D#-F#-G#-A#-C-C#-D-Eb-F-G-Bb. So, there are some whole-tone segments, but it's certainly not entirely whole tone. Not to mention that I swear a few of them are some kind of quarter tone. I can't really find any good pattern for it at all (if only it had been octatonic! A little Homestravinsky Runner!) Geez, the other, normal, non-music-nerd people on the Wiki are going to have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Anyway, that's the answer I've got for your question. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::LOL!! Homestravinsky Runner—''there's'' something for Fanstuff. (How 'bout what would have happened if, instead of They Might Be Giants, they had outsourced [[different town]] to, say, Philip Glass? "''Towanisqatsi'': You'll Think You're Pea-Buried Alive!") But I'm going with the "Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic" analysis. (Though more interesting—perhaps venturing into psychoacoustics?—would be what intervallic structure, invented or otherwise, may have subconsciously influenced his output?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know where this fits into the discussion, but I think they recorded the sound once and then modulated it up and/or down. Other than the pitch, the sound effect is uniform from one T-shirt to the next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hm—true. Which would actually make it ''more'' likely that the resulting pitches are intentional. Hm. On closer inspection (and note, we're talking about the lineup in [[Flash Store]] here), I hear the last pitches from D through G a half step higher than you (Bb I hear the same). If this were true, and it were reduced into prime form—crap, it still wouldn't be chromatic. I'm not taking the time to think through this very carefully, but I ''think'' prime form would be G#-A-A#-B-C-C#-D#-E-F#. This would be chromatic for the span of a perfect fourth and octatonic for another perfect fourth; there, that makes as good a sense as any. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::: "Rondleman is my D-S-C-H!" Abdi, that is, IMHO, ''at least'' as good as Homestravinsky Runner! You crack me up! Crack! me! up! As for the pitches, you may be right (one thing that was driving me crazy was that a lot of them sounded like they were between two semitones). It's as good a theory as any. This has to be one of the weirdest intersections of Homestar Runner addiction and music nerdiness ever to appear on the Wiki... it's awesome. Maybe I should suggest that the other Homestar fans at my department read this. They'd probably think I've been smoking something. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, in particular that D and/or D# for the TGS shirt. If we take that to be a D, it gets even cooler: chromatic G#-D, one tritone; whole-tone D-G# (by implication), the remaining tritone!! (And yes... there needs to be a Trogdorcon-style segment of Strong Bad making fun of anybody who'd do what we just did.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So, I just found out that I wasn't even looking at the same set of pitches as you. I didn't realize the T-shirt pitches even existed in the new store and was using the old store t-shirt pitches. So, there may be a bit of difference because of that (notably, the old store had more pitches). That being said, I'm a little busy reading ''Stravinsky and the Rite of Spring'' right now to make any comparisons between the collections (although Prof. van den Toorn might be pleased if I found some octatonic/diatonic intersections in the collections...) Anyway, as always, I remain, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:No, I realized we were talking about the [[Flash Store]] when you cited 14 pitches, and my comments above have been in connection to them. I would guess that, even ''if'' there was a musical motivation in their pitch-shifting decisions for the 14-shirt lineup, the pitches that exist in the current store are simply a result of which t-shirts have been dropped. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== arguments??? ==

I don't give arguments to back up my edits!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:Oh. If you're talking about my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stephen923&diff=175892&oldid=169416 post on your talk page] about [[pizzaz]], then no, I don't normally post to people's talk pages when I edit either. In this case, though, you had already made the edit and I had reverted it several times, so I thought explaining myself might have been better than reverting at each other in silence. Incidentally, since then, I noticed somebody else (I forget who, but I think a sysop) put a "sic" in an html comment (<nowiki></nowiki>), saying he didn't like seeing them in the transcript. So your edit was actually a good one (although we should still put it in a comment). Unfortunately—since you ''don't'' give arguments to back up your edits, even by using the "Summary:" box, all I could tell was that you didn't know what ''sic'' means. Perhaps next time an edit summary would be helpful. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, it's about the Marshie history page.--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
::I see. Still, [[HRWiki:Standards#Always use the Summary box|using the summary box]] is a good idea. (Actually, more than just a good idea.) If you make an edit, you probably have a reason for doing so; explaining that reason might make others less likely to revert it, or at least let them know you're making thoughtful edits and not just trolling. (Getting a user name helps in the same way; props in that regard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Um...was this suppossed to be for me? That's what it says...if this is about the edits I have made with no summary, it was because I accidentally clicked "save page" before putting in the summary. -[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::No no, sorry 'bout that; I confused the two "S" people who posted on my page today. I was talking to [[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]. (And you don't have to tell me about the perils of clicking "Save page" too early; I need to learn to use "Show preview" more often. Then I'd have fewer consecutive edits where I correct my own spelling or add periods. And less crushed spirits, too!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::::From the Marshie history page, ''(Reverted edit of 24.24.226.13, who perhaps will give us some argument to back up his edit, and changed back to last version by DorianGray)''--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:::::Yes, I know what you're talking about. My reply is four paragraphs above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ooooooops!!! ==

I guess I should have looked the word "pronunciation" up in a dictionary before i changed it...sorry about that!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:S'cool! By the way, if you're using Firefox (if you're not... '''do!'''), there's a nice plugin called DictionarySearch that lets you right click on a word and look it up instantly in a dictionary. (I also used Firefox's "keyword search" function on www.m-w.com's search box, so I can just type, say, "mw pronunciation" into the address bar and go straight to the definition. Just two more examples of why Life Is Better With Firefox!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks for the advese...advise. [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Verse ==

I'm cool with making that read like poetry. I just copied it from the WP article. But is it a poem? I thought it was just a saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:Again, I assume it was in German at first. I added the slash because it was the only thing I could figure the semicolon was thinking of. It ''is'' a rhyming couplet; although it's certainly not "a poem," a lot of folk wisdom sayings are expressed in rhyme. I think the fun fact could do just fine without the slash, though; just so long as there isn't a semicolon there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::I just figured whoever put the semicolon there did so because of all the commas before it, in an attempt to separate it. But the solidus is fine with me. By the way, it's "[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]." :) 06:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::?? I.e. if I'm going to drop the "It's" you'd prefer I capitalize the ''d''? But don't you prefer the "It's" be included anyway? (I was being a little informal in the summary; sorry!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... I think all would be best explained by a trip to the first line of my [[User:It's dot com|user page]] (although I was also partially rebelling against the one-word "dotcom" variety from the edit summary on the STUFF page). — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 06:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Welcome==
Hey AbdiViklas. I was just wondering how you are welcoming people with your user page instead of a welcome. It is obvious that you are doing it by accident. Do you use a sub page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I'm supposed to type ''<nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''. In a hurry, I often forget the ''/welcome'' part. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Why don't you just copy and paste it? Thats what I do, and it has been working pretty well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suppose I could. It's one step longer than ''subst'', but fool-proof! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I have been doing it 150 times. No problems yet! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

----

Thanks for the welcome. Almost as fast as we do at [http://furry.wikicities.com/ WikiFur] (and, truth be told, somewhat more polished ;-). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks! I know we've got at least one Furry enthusiast around here, [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]], although he hasn't been around much lately. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *chuckles* - yes, I know furrykef, he used to hang out with us in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicities #wikicities]. Been a fortnight since I've seen him - maybe he's gone on an online poker binge . . . [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sid and Marty Kroft Present: G.K. Chesterton ==

Abdi, because of you I now know of G.K. Chesterton. If I ever come across a "Father Brown" story, I'll know the truth - the truth embodied in a large, walrus-like British author/journalist. I now consider myself just that much richer in spirit. Next order of bwisness - determining the fate of Mayor McCheese. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Seriously. You should see me when I find out that there's some out-of-print story of his I haven't read! I do a little dance that certain NFL touchdowners have been known to refer to as "vulgar excess." So yeah, if you like detective stories, Father Brown is a great way to start (particularly ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/innocence/title.html The Blue Cross]'', but the best-known, and arguably best, piece of fiction he ever wrote is the novel ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/thursday/thursday.html The Man Who Was Thursday]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Losing the will to check the edits closely ==

I knew that would happen. Earlier today I had to force myself not just to hit the revert button, and actually examine the edit. Why won't this guy talk to us? On an unrelated note, I have, upon reflection, decided that compromise might be the best avenue for the New Boots/different town non-reference. It's too bad B left so quickly, before we could have a chance to really discuss it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Indeed, it's perplexing. I can't figure out whether he (or she, but he in the future for simplicity) is an extremely zealous, extremely well-meaning, extremely misguided individual, or a one-trick troll. Some of his edits really are improvements, like correcting something to reflect what SB really typed, but others seem to just add !s where there are few and take them away where there are many. But no, in the final analysis I think he must be well meaning. My only explanation for the silence is either that he's a true "gnome," who tries to do good but is shy and prefers anonymity, or that he's a user so new he hasn't discovered his own talk page or Recent changes, and is simply selecting emails at random. (Say—there isn't any kind of browsing setup that would keep someone from seeing the "new messages" banner, is there?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm confounded as well. My hunch was that he <s>or she</s> was never getting the message, hence my test on the sandbox, but I was able to receive my message to myself just fine as an anonny. And this guy's not even experiencing the weird IP changes I was, so that shouldn't be an issue. No, I think we're being ignored. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== On Trolling and other Isomorphisms... ==

Don't mind my nonsensical banter... I am currently (''not'') working on writing a statement of purpose for my fellowship application (properly read: ''avoiding it''). Don't ask when it's due, otherwise you'd be shocked. Anyway, I was thinking we should make up a section called ''[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=187594&oldid=187593 trolls post the dardnest things.]'' It would be a hit don't you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It would be ''hilarious''... but don't you think people would then ''try'' to get in it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, I'd read it. Several times. In fact, I'd print it and read it offline. Now I'm excited. I really hope this is able to be done ''somewhere''. I'd love helping this thing. Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::EDIT CONFLICT (or whatever): Yes, people trying to get in might be bad... Perhaps it'd be better to not broadcast the idea.
::I think they would want to get in. I admit that I've gotten an occasional guilty pleasure out of reading the ridiculous things trolls write (and I'm always thinking to myself, "This is vandalism! I'm not supposed to find this funny!") Anyway, it would just encourage trolls to keep vandalizing if they hoped to get featured somewhere on the Wiki. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm reminded, for some reason, of the Simpsons (or was it Futurama?) spoof of Bill Cosby's similarly titled show. What if this were done somewhere off-wiki? (I.e. on somebody's website or blog?) 
:Stux: What manner of beast is said fellowship application? It sounds like the sort of thing that carries high stakes. Me, all I have to do is transcribe some field notes and make some lesson plans, but I've been putting it off all day and so will stay up all night to make up (yeah, that's how I work). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:''(DorianGray): Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion.'' A hint of seriousness yes, an iota, I am not so sure ;). Unfortunately, yes, this could serve as an incentive. But have any of you guys ever read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense|Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense]] (or rather perused through it)? We'll always have trolls you know, just not as many as the big 'pedia, but even an increase might be 'enough'. As for the fellowship, it is a [http://was.nd.edu/gem/gemwebapp/public/gem_01_100.htm summer-work] type program that links you with industry and helps you pay for your grad school. I'm *finally* getting momentum, esp now that I found my grad school application essay and realized it will likely help me finish what i need to do! <insert *evil grin* here> :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I actually ''have'' gone through the Deleted Nonsense stuff on the big wiki. It's amazing... And I'm sure we have our fair share of weirdness... I know I've seen some. Now then. Back to the All Hallow's Eve toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::wow, i just looked at that page. hours of wierd things about evil squirrels and chocolate covered raisins......{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Note ==

It's not "What am I supposed to do?", but "What ''I'm'' supposed to do?". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oop. Thanks. That makes a little more sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or a little ''less'' sense, depending on how you look at it. I guess it makes more sense for Homestar. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==Solfège...==

Humming RE-MI-DO-DO-SOL, eh? What does that refer to? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/ Close Encounters of the Third Kind]''. Aliens contact Earth—and choose moveable do as the best method of communication. (Seriously—they even know the hand symbols!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::That would explain my lack of recognition. I haven't seen that film. And am not missing much, apparently, if it features moveable do. I really dislike moveable do. Talk atcha later. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::WHOA no you don't—knock moveable do and then just postpone the discussion!!! (For onlookers, this is what music nerds fight over. It's like which Elvish language is better.) And them '''is''' fightin' words. I'm not going to go into my rant on the subject at the moment, but it's very entertaining (as long as I don't break anything). On the other subject, you ought to see movie; if you like sci-fi it's a classic, but even if you don't it's a well-shaped movie for its time. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That's it, man! We are dueling to the death! A PLAGUE UPON MOVEABLE DO! No, just kidding. It's only a personal dislike, not a pedagogical philosophy or anything like that. But, since I have absolute pitch, I don't find it very useful. I prefer a system that always calls a C a C. I actually just use the German names of notes (since they're all monosyllables). I guess a lot of people find moveable do useful, but I was always annoyed that my teachers made me use it too when it isn't my ''modus operandi'' at all. Anyway, that's my philosophy. Talk to my man with the green and white stripes. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that ''is'' my objection to fixed do (one of them); as long as we're using these letters, it's simply a redundant system. If we were French it would be different, but at the moment we already have a system tied to absolute pitch. (Learning it for the purpose of international communication is a different matter; I have a Korean student whom I use it with since he grew up with it; but for sight-singing purposes it doesn't really bring anything new to the party, where as moveable brings an opportunity to engage tonality.) I guess, in pedagogical contexts, its supporters are putting a higher priority on developing absolute pitch than on developing sensitivity to tonal function. Personally, preferring a less eurocentric view of musics, I'm not as wed to a 12-note, octave-based, equal-tempered system as the be-all and end-all; I think training students to critically match a provided pitch is the most important. (I keep having dreams of writing a piece of ear training software with string instruments in mind that uses some midi controller with a slider—preferably emulating the physical instrument—to adjust the user's pitch to match a generated one, with visual representation on-screen and a little "you win!" message when it matches!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I suppose you're right, it's just that I've never used real fixed-do, just my German system (which I usually consider a variant on fixed-do). I don't really have any use for old do, re and mi except when singing ''The Sound of Music'' (which I don't really ever sing). For me, sightsinging is much easier with an absolute pitch system, so I sing "ah, ha, tseh, tseh, deh" (for the Glance motive from ''Tristan'') or whatever for whatever notes I need. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, for my own use, I prefer "moveable la." (Something we used to joke about in college—"La, la, la, la..." Not to mention moveable na, doot, and doo. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
''{conversation continued in next section...}''

Oh, something just came into my mind about this earlier today: About the first pronouncement I ever heard on the topic of moveable-do (or any kind of solfège) was from my fabulously musical mother, who bluntly told me, "Solfège is stupid." So, I was probably biased against it from the beginning, and that surely contributed to my bad attitude about it for the rest of time. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==...And the Absoluteness of Absolute Pitch==
I really don't have anything useful to add to this conversation, other than to say I understood it, and to agree with AbdiViklas, because moveable do makes way more sense in the sense of teaching singing within a key or when a particular key isn't important (I realize that's a strange concept to someone with perfect pitch (which I don't have, but I wish I did. I do have pretty good pitch memory, so if you ask me to sing an F, I can usually hit it or at least get within a half step, but I can't hear a note out of the blue and immediately say, Oh, that's an A-sharp)). I still, however, think both AbdiViklas and Heimstern Läufer are cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:And the sentiment is mutual. I have this weird thing that I've heard referred to as "acquired pitch"; i.e. from playing the violin so long I've developed pitch-identification ability within its range, but my skillz have an abrupt cutoff at the bottom note of the violin. Also, certain instrumental "voiceprints" completely throw me for a loop. I can ID a pitch on piano, flute, oboe, saxophone—but I'm pretty inconsistent with clarinet. And, frustratingly, the human voice! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I hear about people being able to identify pitches only on certain instruments all the time. I've never had that experience; to me, a pitch is a pitch, whatever instrument it is. I've actually often wondered what it would be like not to be able to identify and produce pitches at will, and I admit that it baffles me as much as it must baffle the normal people to know that I can do so. Oh, and Dot com, you may not want to wish you had absolute pitch. It's a really neat party trick, but it can be really frustrating. If someone starts singing a song in a key other than the original, it really grates on me. Then there's period-instrument recordings: while I certainly respect their intentions, I really can't listen to them because they play everything too low. So, those are the disadvantages of absolute pitch. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, now I don't have that problem. I can ''tell'' when something isn't aligned to a modern, Western, equal-temperament A-440 scale, but I don't suffer under it. After all, our selection of A-440 is so arbitrary (unless there's some kind of acoustic principle I don't know about, like the circumference of the earth divided by the distance to da mooon on the winter solstice equals A-440), and, although there are some mathematical arguments for our division of the octave, I prefer to engage the scale systems of other cultures on their own terms. Admittedly, it is a little hard for me to listen to a [[Wikipedia:Gamelan|Gamelan]] and remember that it's not just "out of tune," that they tuned it to those pitches just as carefully as I do, but if it's a 10-minute piece I get acclimated before long. The alternative is the colonial British attitude that dismissed the Carnatic system as a primitive "folk music" because their "poor intonation" was "indicative of a bad ear."
:::     And yeah, I played in Eastman's baroque ensemble for a couple of years (I didn't realize at first what a resource I had there, or who [http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=115 Paul O'Dette] was!), and it really throws you for a loop to play roughly an exact half step down. After the first 10 minutes of the rehearsal, though, I just get recalibrated into "Baroque mode." (But when listening to my prized [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm Freiburger] CDs, I still mentally identify what I'm hearing as a half step below what's written, and if I try to think about it it screws me up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Arbitrary A=400 is indeed, yet it is completely ingrained into my ear. I guess it wouldn't make a difference if the Baroque ensemble were playing a piece I didn't know, since I wouldn't know its real key (although it sounds odd to me to hear a Baroque piece in Db major, since that was a rather uncommon key during that era.) The biggest problem is anything well-known: if it's ''The Messiah'' or a Brandenburg concerto the lower pitch is just going to sound wrong to me. Ahistorical and arbitrary, but still part of my congnition. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, same here. I have the problem of kind of subconsciously imagining the physicality of the note, i.e. the fingering they're doing—which gets pretty funky in Db (or Gb!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Pitch (music)#Historical pitch standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Amen, hallelujah, preach it. Also http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1305.htm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Hi guys! I've been following this conversation for a while, and I figured I may have something to actually contribute: I have this vague recollection from my physics II class that the reason 440Hz is used is in part due to resonance qualities of the material. That is, that would be why we'd use 440Hz and not 439 or 441. (????) I'm trying to find out more about the subject, then again reading about [[Wikipedia:Pitch_%28music%29#Need_to_standardize_pitch|Pitch standardization]] suggests that I remembered it wrong, and that the resonance frequencies have to do with all the ''C'' frequencies being the same, and the pitch really IS arbitrary. (Apparently they tried to set A at 439 once but it being prime was really hard to reproduce). While reading i'm learning about such big phrases as [[Wikipedia:Fundamental_frequency|Fundamental_frequency]] and [[Wikipedia:Harmonic series (music)|Harmonic series]]. Hmmm, maybe I don't have anything to contribute... I like shiny things. (There, that's better!). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::But don't assume we ''really'' play at A-440 today. We had an Israeli/French/German conductor at Eastman who routinely tuned us to 442 or so. I hear it's fairly popular in Europe (but what do you expect from people who drink Warm Ones). I hear also there's some concern about pitch just continuing to rise "out of control" (see a [http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-January/001455.html response] to that concern). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! Did I just read that correctly? Fines by the Italian government for tuning forks outside of 440!? O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Proposed, proposed. And as I read more I'm getting very confused; I'm not sure what connection [[Wikipedia:Lyndon LaRouche|a guy]] who tried to run for president from jail has to the Italian senate, or whether any bill with his name on it would really be taken seriously. On the one hand, it must seem remarkable to the general onlooker that these music nerds are ''at'' each other's ''throats'' over a half-step, but on the other hand the whole "Slatkin serves Satan" thing and the absurdity of all these shenanigans are vaguely pleasing to me. They renew my faith that the "classical" music scene has not simply ossified into an arena for the performance of 18th-century works with 19th-century sensibilities amid 20th-century conventions of a darkened, hushed audience composed mainly of nursing home excursions and tobacco heiresses trying to assuage their inherited guilt by donating to a cause that is both ostensibly societally uplifting and effectually exclusivist. Rather, it offers hope that the sheer ''messiness'' we see in music history—with major composers' mud-slinging, name-calling, old-school/new-school ([[Wikipedia:Ars nova|Ars nova]], [[Wikipedia:Claudio Monteverdi|seconda practica]]), East-coast/West-coast-style invective, rampant rumors that certain [[Wikipedia:Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini|virtuosi]] ''did'' in fact "serve satan," and audiences that simultaneously awarded their [[Wikipedia:Farinelli|favorite vocalists]] with lives of fame, free love, and [http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/a/plate_ipa00014.html gratuitous jewelry] that rival any modern-day blingster, and then gossiped obliviously through the operas to the point that even their pet stars, when their arias came, had to come out to the edge of the stage, grab the spotlight, and gesticulate broadly to wrest their attention—is not dead. (If you didn't follow that sentence, leave out everything between the dashes.) In a way, it's almost a performance art of sorts; LaRouche, his critics, the respective governments, and the colorful, vicious, vivacious rhetoric form one big, societal piece of entertaining pageant—"reality opera," if you will! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hallrunner ==

Awesome job on [[Hallrunner]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I was bored, and using "random page" until I found something worth editing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==wiki defender thing...y==

Hey abdi, thanks for the trophy!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, dude! That's was awesome to see first thing in the morning! [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 19:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hey; that seemed to me to be the clearest example I've seen yet of what it was meant for. But you know, with a little extra effort it would have been chock full of Steak-umms! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks also from me. :) I didn't do much, but I appreciate it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And many ''mahalos'' from me too. I think that was the ultimate recognition I've always wanted on here... Thanks, man. And I'd just about had it with that trolling toaster. So I stepped in to fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hizzlary Hahn==

So I just got back from a Hilary Hahn concert. She stuck around afterwards to sign CDs; I cursed myself for not bringing mine, and for not bringing a camera. Can you imagine how a photo of me 'n' Hilary would look on my user page?! (If you're having trouble understanding the significant beautification that this would represent for my page, examine [http://www.hilaryhahn.com hilaryhahn.com].) You have to understand, she's like exactly my age; when I was 16 I bought her solo Bach CD simply because she was on the cover (and no, we're not talking about a [[Wikipedia:Lara St. John|Lara St. John]] cover; her eyebrow alone was enough to sell me), and have harbored a crush ever since. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:This may actually be the first time I've heard of anyone having a crush on a famous ''classical'' musician. I can't say I've ever had one of those myself. At least I'm glad to hear that not ''all'' the heartthrobs have to be no-talents like Britney Spears. Anyway, that's cool you got to see Hilary Hahn in concert; I hear she's great, although I haven't yet heard her myself. I probably don't listen to as much violin solo music as you do, since I'm a horn-player-turned-tenor. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::They say you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but if she plays half as hot as she looks, then you had an extremely enjoyable concertgoing evening, to put it mildly. You should have drawn a picture of her and handed it to her after the concert. She would have posted it on her website. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah, but she does, that's the marvel of it. Her strong suit is an absolute, impeccable, superhuman purity and perfection of tone and intonation. You could have a competition in which all the major violin supastars play only one note each, and she'd win, for her bow control. Others may have a tone that sounds perfect from 10 feet away, but then you could put it under a microscope and you'd find the tiniest jitter or bump in their sound and none in Hilary's. >>''Edit'': Wait, I just found an Amazon page that puts it well: "Her tone has the directness and intensity of a laser beam and the unblemished purity of fine-spun crystal." (That page, btw, is her own [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/580596/ref=ed_mus_mysh_qp_hahn_1/102-4070132-3504108 music recommendations]; the story of her convergence with [[Wikipedia:...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] is quite amusing.)<< That Her weakness is that her artistic persona and interpretations are fairly reserved, poised, collected, and cool. Not like she's a cold fish, or lacks emotive expression; she can bring it; but she's not all-over-the-place, blood-'n'-guts melodrama like [http://www.nadjasalernosonnenberg.com/ Nadja], and sometimes I want that. I'd actually prefer both artists for different pieces. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, Heimstern (can I call you Heimstern?), I played horn too! I'm immensely glad I chose it (due to its superiority over all the other brass instruments (I'll insert that qualifier there since this ''is'' AbdiViklas's page, and there's no need to be a bad guest here)), but the real reason I originally selected horn over trumpet is that this hot girl was also in the section. Another ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Yes, Dot com, please do call me Heimstern. I find it overly formal and awkward when people address me by both first name and surname (if those terms really apply to a pseudonym like "Heimstern Läufer"). I always did love the horn, and I picked it because I liked the instrument, not for any ulterior motives. (I also thought I'd have advantages finding the right notes because of absolute pitch.) Then came college and the teacher from the abyss. We were ''not'' meant for each other at all. So, I'm now a tenor. Let me tell you, the world of vocalists is ''miles'' away from the world of instrumentalists. Half of them seem to seriously believe that singing the right rhythm is optional. I've actually been working on a Schubert song, "Auf dem Strom", which features a horn part in addition to voice and piano. It has to be one of the most beautiful and heartrending songs ever written. It alone proves your point that the horn is the greatest of brass instruments, since no trumpet or tuba could ever be so lyrical and full of ''Sehnsucht''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 18:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::LOL—I had a tubist friend at Eastman who would be up in arms at that. Thanks to his friendship, I know far more about tubas, tuba rep, and where to buy tubas than I'll ever need to. I've also had the joy of hearing the last movement of the [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LWQH/qid=1132021791/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=classical Mendelssohn violin concerto] (listen to track 3) arranged for tuba!! "Bopbopbopbop ''boop'' boodeboop boop boop boop boop boop..." It's something like watching a hippo do a tap routine on a tightrope: astounding, but you wonder why it had to be done. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, tubists just exist in a completely alternate universe to us, anyway. My thought about them is the same thing all we tenors think about basses: "Why would anyone ''want'' to sing/play that low?" [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==I know I am not supposed to, but==

I need to talk again...
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you did it the right way this time. Forum ahoy! (Though I can't be much help; I'm leaving in half an hour for a big music teachers' convention.) There are plenty of smart folks over there, though, who can take my place. I will at least check up on your edits at the forum before I leave and when I get back Monday night. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey again, I sent a message to you in the forum, send a repply when you get the chance.
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==A telegrammaparcel==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Feel free to leave me an electronic message. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''
==Sweden??==
Judging by that message you posted on Sir Strong Bad's talk page, are you seriously from Sweden, or are you just saying that 'cause your name is Abdi'''Viklas'''? Because Sweden is totally my favorite country ever. Because I used to live in Sweden before we moved to Seattle. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, I'm no more from Sweden than [http://www.mclars.com/ MC Lars] is actually "[http://mclars.com/laptop_lyrics.html#stock Straight Outta Stockholm]." For what it's worth, I'm a hardcore fan of Swedish folk music, especially the group [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogArtist_01.asp?Action=Get&Artist_ID=45 Väsen]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::Never heard of it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Not an acceptable situation! Check out particularly their second US release, [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogAlbum_01.asp?Album_ID=101 Whirled] (even though it's from, like, '96, it's still their best single album). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I'll take a look at it. Thanks. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Hey there Abdiviklas, how have you been, i've noticed you mostly answer my questions in the discussion pages, lets get to konw each other:

1.Whats your real name?

2.What do you do for a living?

3.How did you get the name "AbdiViklas"?

4.How long have you been on Homestar runner wiki?

5.How did you find me?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, you can get some of the information you want from Abdi's [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]]. A person's user page is usually the best place to start if you want to know about a user. Hope that's helpful! (And, Abdi, hope you don't mind my butting in.) ''(grins sheepishly)'' [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not at all; I've been doing it a good bit myself recently! And he's right, Nikolce; my [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]] explains questions 3 and 4 pretty well. As for #1, I prefer not to use my real name on the internet if I can help it. And for #5, I found you by watching [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] and noticing the questions you were asking on discussion pages.
I have some questions for you, actually!
#How do you pronounce your name? With friends with international names, I like to at least make an effort to pronounce them correctly. I know it's hard to explain in writing, without being able to speak, but at least could you explain the "-ce" ending: does the "e" have much of a sound? If so, is it more of an "ey," like "hey," or "e" like "wet"? And what does the "c" do—a "s" sound, a "k" sound, or a "ch" sound?
#I think we're all a little confused about your gender. You mentioned that your name translates to "Nick," but [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] adressed you as a lady. (Here "Nick" is usually a guy's nickname, short for Nicholas; the female equivalent is "Nicole." I've never known a girl named "Nick," though I think I have heard of one who went by "Nicky."
#Umm... I guess I only had two questions, but a two-number list didn't seem like a real list. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:1. The way you say my name is would be like the same way to say Europian names: Nikolce Kocovski-Ne-kol-che Ko-cho-v-ske. 
:2.I'm male, its just that Nick is easier to say then Nikolce, I've never been called Nicholas or Nikky, but you can call me that if you wish. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== More Anagrams ==

Now look what you've done. That anagram thing you showed me is massively addicting. But there's one in particular I wanna share. "Strongbadia" can be arranged to spell "A brat's doing". Don't you love it when they work out and mean something relavent like that? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I personally think Strong Bad should abandon the "Prof. Tor Coolguy" moniker in favor of "Dr. Snot Bag". [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
::But who among us will agree that Strong Mad is "Most Grand"? Although Strong Bad would agree that Strong Sad "Drags Tons", I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Holy cow—what storm have I unleashed?? Those are supoib, guys. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== A Reply ==

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for caring. I appreciate it. [[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Don't mention it. In fact, it could be considered a school assignment, since I'm currently reading [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807746096/qid=1132443884/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 The Challenge to Care in Schools: An Alternative Approach to Education]. I find it a little alarming that the idea of giving a crap can be described as "an alternative approach," though in fairness it gets into way more than that. It's about creating a supportive classroom community that doesn't just announce the tenets of "character education" without really believing them, but models and values true... well, caring. Much more fun. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== On TOCs and other nuances ==

Hey Abdi! What's up? I wanted to brief you on TOC oddities since you asked about it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Coach_Z&diff=202369&oldid=202367 here]. Basically, what Mediawiki does is that it hides TOCs for pages with less than 3 titles (i think it's 3 at least), however there are special commands such as <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></code> that make the TOC be placed in that precise location and have the TOC always be hidden, respectively. I think that toc can make a TOC appear in short pages, but I think <code><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></code> might be more of what you need. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words This page] explains more in depth the different Magic Words available for use in the wiki. I hope this is helpful and informative! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Cool. I thought it had something to do with the titles, and added one at the top of the page (thinking the important thing was that the page start with one); that must have bumped it over three, since a TOC appeared. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jibney ==

Looking at Jibney's edit history, it looks like he's always been a little off-the-wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided he just wanted to start making gibberish edits here and there. But then again, it's also possible someone is trying to make him look bad. Any ideas? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think he was immitating president bush when he signed your guestbook. I think he just wants attention and wants it bad. My guess is that he either thought it would be ok to deface a vandal's ip user page, or it might even be his own and doesn't know he can't prove that it's his ip. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::'''(Edit conflict):''' Yeah; he ''has'' demonstrated an ability to write in at least semi-standard English (e.g. his last few responses on his user page). I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he has made legit article edits like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strongbadia&diff=prev&oldid=199670]. Remember several of our power users started out rough, with a block or two. ''{after edit conflict}'' ...and I would think it would be more in his interests to prove it's ''not'' his IP! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::''(I almost put this [[Talk:The_Brothers_Chaps%27_Fansite_Acknowledgements#Possession|in the wrong section]])'' Jibney claims to have been [[User:Timmy%21|Timmy]], who used to be a vandal. (Not a Visigoth) But yeah the changes are recent enough that it would be best that they are not his. But remember he doesn't have to explain that (innocent till proven guilty?), just explain his current actions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yep. And he also identifies himself as one Marshieman on the Fanstuff wiki, who apparently wore out his welcome there for general obnoxiousness in Aug and was blocked for a year. See [[User talk:Jibney#Hello, Marshieman.]]; apparently [[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] has some bad blood for him (see also [[User talk:Jibney#Heh heh...]]). Obviously he has his past, but I'd prefer to hold out hope whenever possible. A mentor orchestra teacher I know has several stories of kids that she would have paid money to get out of her class, who she didn't believe had ''any'' musical talent... who went on to attend conservatories and ultimately become music teachers themselves. Besides, unless blocks are made binding unilaterally across the wikis, he should be judged simply by what he does here.
::::To the best I can tell, neither [[User:Timmy!|Timmy]] nor [[User:Jibney|Jibney]] has ever been blocked here. The user Jibney was created, actually, at [[User:Kerrek_slaya|Kerrek_slaya]]'s suggestion when Timmy couldn't remember his password and didn't have an email address (see [[User_talk:66.169.119.137]]). And to avoid confusion, I strongly doubt that ''our'' [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]] has anything to do with him. His [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|edits]] consisted of a spree of obscene, offensive page moves roughly 5 hrs before Jibney's first edits. Timmy/Jibney's style tends to be at worst nonsensical or puerile and involve heavy AOLspeak. Jibney was created 5 hrs too late to give him an alibi, but I really don't think it's him. If I'm right, it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to make bad edits appear as his; the "Heh heh..." section of his talk page linked above seems to involve some such occurrence on fanstuff. Additionally, both here and on fanstuff, occasional runs of brazenly vandalistic and heavily misspelled edits have been made (e.g. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=185999], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186003], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186005], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186011]), which he has subsequently [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:66.169.119.137&diff=prev&oldid=186037 explained] as his little sister gaining access to his computer. Although Thatkidsam doubts his veracity rather sneeringly, compare the semiliterate raving of those edits to his explanation; although uncap.d, etc, it shows a different style. And the edit 2.5 hrs [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:boring_%28really%29&diff=prev&oldid=185897 before] the suspicious ones was even more prosaic. Bottom line: the guy makes things hard on himself through AOLspeak and impulsive editting that seems to make more sense to himself than to others, but I see in his saner edits the desire (or at least potential) to be a constructive member of the the wiki, and I'd prefer not to oppose that desire in anyone as long as it remains at the forefront. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow! That is the most thorough analysis of a user I have '''ever''' seen! I didn't even know how many colons to use to indent this thing! Oh yeah I should reply to this too shouldn't I? Well basically you've summed up Jibney's mystery into ... another mystery! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome template ==

Quick question: When I use '''<nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''' to greet new users, where does the template come from? Did the change you made to your Welcome template (with the Tour) also affect that tag? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. What you're using is [[Template:welcome]]; I took that and made a personalized version which I keep at [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome]], and that's what I editted. You can do the same if you want; you'd use the same code to implement it, but substitute its location for the word "welcome" (e.g. I type <nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if you think the tour should be added to the main welcome template itself, you could just add it there. If you decide to do that, however, it might be a good idea to announce your intentions on [[Template talk:welcome]] first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think it should be incorporated into [[HRWiki:Introduction]] first, and then the Introduction should be linked in the welcome template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==HTML Romanian codes==
For my own reference, and the curiosity of anyone who happens by, how to create some of the characters in the Romanian alphabet:
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! Upper case
! Lower case
! Upper case encoding
! Lower case encoding
! Notes
|-
| Ă
| ă
| &#258;
| &#259;
|  
|-
| Â
| â
| &#194;
| &#226;
|  
|-
| Î
| î
| &#206;
| &#238;
|  
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ș}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ș}}
| &#536;
| &#537;
| s with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ş
| ş
| &#350;
| &#351;
| s with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ț}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ț}}
| &#538;
| &#539;
| t with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ţ
| ţ
| &#354;
| &#355;
| t with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|}

Are you romanian Abdi? (Or of romanian descent?) My old roommate is Romanian. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope; no connection except that I went there two summers in a row with teams from my church. I tried to pick up a little language, but really had only an ornamental vocabulary (enough to say something in Romanian just so I'd be saying something in Romanian). I got myself into '''BIG''' trouble, evidently, when I tried to order a lemon Fanta (they have different flavors over there, many of which are awesome), and mispronounced the word for lemon. My hosts' eyes got ''really'' big and they turned bright red; when they regained the power of speech all they could manage was "Don't... ever... say that again...." Me: "Why, what? What did I say?" Them: "You... ''{pause}'' you don't want to know." To this day I don't know what word that sounded like!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol! Well if you transliterate (is that a word) what you wrote perhaps I can ask my old roommate this weekend. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The word was (and here I get a chance to use some of those characters above) "lămâjie"; that "a" with a circumflex, as I understood it, was supposed to be something like the "oo" of "wood" but closer to the "ou" of "would," a hint of the "oo" of "boot" creeping in. I way over-emphasized the latter, and then gave the final "e" too much of a Spanish "ey" sound—"luhmooyay." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL i'll see what I can do... I think I have enough to explain to him the word ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::So where your hosts like really mad or were they cracking up? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Either cracking up or kind of embarrassed or both, depending on their personality. (These were teenagers; the 15-yr-old guy thought it was the funniest event of the 21st century, though even he demurred to tell me what it meant; the shy girl looked like she thought it was funny and felt guilty for thinking so.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Not that this really relates to Romanian, although it does relate to language mix-ups and the current season: My favorite mistake in a German essay by an American student was "An Thanksgiving esse ich die Türkei", which means, "On Thanksgiving I eat Turkey" (i.e., the ''country'' of Turkey!) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL; I'm ''sure'' he tries. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ohhh it's possibly slang then. My old roommate moved from there when he was 8 and i don't know if he knows all the slang. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== A wery new electronic reply! ==

'''For Sir Viklas. Hi?'''

'''1. Prehaps! I'm've was to make football often times. Play? Know. Best football results twice again.'''

'''2. Every age I have seen out as a baby. I think I has the solution: width times height.'''

'''3. As a wery old, I can fathom the scene to be with me. Looking always as I ever did. It was not came's. He borrowed mine.'''

'''Okay, Viklas, one would certainly wish that would answer your questions. I do believe that we're on the same page. Unfortunately, yours has a large F on it.'''

'''— Sir Stark Dålig '''

==Marching Bands (not of Manhattan)==

I said "marching bands". Most schools near me have bands, but none I know have marching bands. I live in the same city as TBC. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's reassuring. And frankly, I'd rather they had a sit-down-an'-play-music band than a put-on-a-purple-thing-and-dance-around band. (Or better yet, how about Strings and Choral programs?) But seriously, I'd be very surprised if a city the size of Atlanta didn't have a fair number of HS marching bands. In fact, a cursory Googling reveals that [http://www.marching-band.net/news/ "The Official" Metro Atlanta Battle of the Bands] on Oct. 14, 2004 included bands from the following schools:
::Southwest DeKalb
::Morrow
::Redan
::Westlake
::Columbia
::Towers
::Mays
::Stephenson
::Martin Luther King
::Pebble Brook
::Cedar Grove
::Riverdale
::Lithonia
:However, cross-checking against the [http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/our_schools/schools_list/school_list1.html#high list of Atlanta public high schools] shows only Mays. What's the deal—the others are suburban schools with nice budgets? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woah, there's a actully a real school called Riverdale high? In those old Archie comics he's in riverdale high school, for those of you who don't know. That's awsome! {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 00:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC) PS: For some reason my sig isn't working on this page. Or my new x-mas themed one. Whats happening?
:::Man. Now [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=205706 my] User page is haunted! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Weird, man. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, problem fixed! Curse lifted :p. Binary Searches sure come in handy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::That Stux is a computer genius man! (Let's do a dance for the computer genius man.) Btw (not in the tone of trauma that would continue the quote), what did you do? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well it didn't involve shotguns that's for sure... If you check out this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=prev&oldid=206819 diff] you'll see that there were a few template inclusions that were not closed, making everything be template text. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Dances for the computer genius man* doo-doo! doo-doo! Thank you stux! you rule! Doo-doo!{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lovett and Westminster aren't on there because they're private schools. Fancy-shemancy. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I once again come to you asking for a favor! '''Stop'''

Might I trouble you for a photograph? '''Stop'''

Because you are being inducted into my honorary members gang! '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

'''PS: If possible, please make it a B/W photo. My telegramophone doesn't seem to handle the colored genre oh too well. Regards!'''

:I'd rather not use my real picture, for the same reason that I'd rather not use my real name. Also, I'm not actually Swedish (see [[#Sweden??|conversation above]]). But since I impersonated a Swedish prince on your talk page, I find it only fitting to use an [[Wikipedia:Image:Ducele_de_Halland.jpg|image of one]] to represent me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::I bet you are a hit with the ladies Mr. Swedish Prince. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Woah, that picture totally looks like me! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== GVBAoA ==

[[Image:Pewtervanburen.PNG|right|Pretend its golden, since I'm already pushing the one-personal-image rule.]]
Abdi, you've just earned yourself the '''GVBAoA''': 
'''G'''old 
'''V'''an 
'''B'''uren 
'''A'''award 
'''o'''f 
'''A'''wesomeness 
for helping me get off the ground when I was a newbie, and for being an all around nice person. There are only five in the entire world! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Whoa!! What an honor! I have so many people to thank—I'd like to thank the academy; I'd like to thank The Cheat, for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
==The "Yet another award" award==
:Just kiddin. It's the '''thank you award'''. I present this thank you award to AbdiViklas, <s>Pretty weird person</s> Swedish Prince, for giving me an awesome trophy and for just being cool.
So here you go! Thanks!
:{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC) [[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|Thank You Award givin to '''AbdiViklas''']]
::Presenting: the '''"No, thank ''you''!" award'''! For being an expert trophy-giver and encourager. People who affirm good stuff in others are themselves ''good stuff''. G-E-W-D.
::On an unrelated note: when I hear "Swedish Prince" I can't help imagining a [[Wikipedia:Prince (artist)|guy in a purple suit]] trying to look sultry but failing because his [[Wikipedia:Swedish Chef|eyebrows and mustache entirely obscure his face]]. [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u2/141603.html Oh-oh-oh, the Swedish thing]... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== "wiki is gay"? ==

I'm sorry, I need to ask this question in order to see if this was just an inane dream or a reality - did Homestarrunner.com temporarily put up a message in their updates section (top-right corner of the main pages) saying that "The HRWiki is gay"? Thanks, this is killing me... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 13:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Interesting. No, we don't have any record of that happening. Who did you hear that one from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::TBC like us. We're cool. Most of us seem to like members of the opposite gender...so there. **sticks out tongue and gives a rasbery** {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that sounds something more like what Matt Wilson would do... He doesn't like his cartoon's wiki much, and has put things like "the wiki is creepy" in the credits occasionally, and even openly mocked them with a "Bonus Stage Wiki Guy" character in a recent toon. But the Brothers Chaps love us. They sent Joey sketches and stuff. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Who's Matt Wilson, and what cartoon does he make? He sounds like a not-so-nice person. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Matt Wilson writes the [[Wikipedia:Bonus Stage|Bonus Stage]] webtoons. He doesn't think much of his fans, I think, the wiki in particular. But the cartoons rock. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Like I said, I think I was — literally — dreaming. I was up really late last night. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::...which reminds me that I really spend too much time on the computer. Dreaming about the internet, wow... :/ {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL—yes, that is a warning sign. (I can just imagine Gafaddict doing couch mumbling: "Mbl... hammminbble... Edit conflict...".) Seriously, not only do TBC like the wiki, their record is notably free from the use of "gay" as a generic negative. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, me i've be doing great, can i ask you some questions:

1.whats your favourite toon?

2.whats your favourite character?

3.how did you find Homestar runner?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Two of those are tough. (One's easy; the answer to #3 is on [[User:AbdiViklas#Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction|my user page]].) For favorite 'toon, I'll have to limit it to sbemails to make it easier. In that case, the three that I ''enjoy'' the most are [[funny]], [[caffeine]], and [[your friends]]. I can't decide exactly what the order should be. I feel a little guiltily lowbrow for enjoying so much the ones that are just straight-up, slapstick, audiovisual gags; I ''appreciate'' the ones that are "clever" too, but I can't help just laughing at loud at these.
:For favorite character: also tough. Of course I like 'em all, for the appropriate reasons. (Strong Bad because he's... Strong Bad; Strong Sad for his good taste in literature, music, art, and intellectual culture; Homestar for his heartwarming naïveté; etc.) If I have to pick a major character, I'll go with The Cheat; I just bought one of the The Cheat t-shirts while they were on sale, and it's the first t-shirt I've bought. But if we're including minor characters, I think What's Her Face is pretty cool, as I once [[Talk:What's Her Face|observed]] in a characteristically wordy post. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[Talk:What%27s_Her_Face#From_the_Paper_.22Teen_Girl_Squad:_Class_Stratification_and_the_Role_of_Otherness_Within_A_Multi-teen_Peer_Group_Dynamic.22|''No wonder'']] you didn't post the entire link that discussion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That and the fact that my comment was in response to some above that heading. (By the way, that heading was [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]]'s doing; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=151263&oldid=151256 originally] I hadn't started a new section.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=next&oldid=151263 see].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

== Louisiana residents ==

AbdiViklas: I noticed that you reverted my edit on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/weird dream#Louisiana lingerie?|this page]], which was a removal of the phrase "it could even be a jab at the relative intelligence of Louisiana residents." Let me make the case for my removal, and then I'll let you do with that information as you see fit.

I'm not aware of a stereotype that Louisiana residents are unintelligent. I ''am'' aware of a false stereotype that people living in the South are "slow." I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. In this case, I have little confidence that TBC would propogate this bias--they are from Georgia, about as South as you can get. (I also have difficulty seeing the connection between askew undergarments and intelligence, although one could argue this point.)

So, I removed your comment because I saw no need to perpetuate an insulting stereotype, especially one which residents of Georgia would be unlikely to defend. I trust that you'll take these comments as what they're intended to be--an explanation of my position--and not a personal attack. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your tact! I live in NC myself, so I certainly don't subscribe to the "dumb Southerner" concept (and am concerned about research showing employer bias against Southern accents!). I offerred the comment as illustration that the Easter egg could have meant something other Mardi Gras. In fact, my first thought when watching it, since I didn't make the Mardi Gras connection, was "Ha ha, that one couldn't even figure out how to put it on!" True, Louisiana isn't the butt of such jokes so much as Arkansas; it was jokes like the [http://www.joke-archives.com/youmaybe/arkansasreadingtest.html Arkansas reading test] that I was thinking of. (And I've heard that one ''from'' Southerners, in NC!) I'm not so sure TBC have qualms about perpetuating insulting stereotypes, either; I find it hard to watch Li'l Brudder in light of the physically impaired. (But yes, to their credit, they steer mostly clear of shock humor and using touchy subjects for cheap laughs.)
:As for removing the comment, I just reverted because I thought it was generally frowned upon to edit other people's comments in STUFF or talk pages. (I mean, I once deleted one when someone used a homosexual slur, but for anything less extreme I try to let it stand.) In light of your argument that acknowledging a harmful stereotype reinforces it, though, you can consider it ''my'' deletion!
:Thanks for responding in such a diplomatic and well-explained way! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, thanks for the cheerful reply; I probably made a mountain out of a molehill anyway (it's only a STUFF page, after all). I'll keep your comments in mind before editing arguments in the future. Have a great week, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== greetings from Nikolce Kocovski (plus homeschooling) ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing fantastic. anyway onto business:
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you ever had a bulling problem in school?
#what have been up to recently?
yours truly [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey Nik!
:#I think I'd noticed [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] a couple of times on recent changes, but I hadn't looked up his user page until you asked. I wonder how his Elvis impersonation is? I hope it's better than the one on [http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/01-1.html this] page (see the entry for Jan. 8)!
:#I was [[Wikipedia:Homeschooling|homeschooled]] from 2nd grade through high school, so I certainly didn't have as many problems with bullying as most students, but even so I had some. Interestingly, one of the guys who used to tease me in really painful ways eventually (like within the same year) realized that he really was hurting me, apologized, and started being nicer. I think he wasn't really so much a true bully; he just thought he was being funny (while I didn't). These days, as a teacher, I'm more concerned with trying to prevent bullying for my students. It's really a serious problem; in the U.S. 75% report being bullied at some point, which means not only are they being denied a fundamental human right, but their education and development are being affected. I'm not sure how much I can do as a teacher to really change bullying, but I intend at least not to be unaware of it or (worse) ignore it.
:#Recently I've been doing a bunch of homework for finals in my university courses. Also I've been visiting a high school where I've been practicing conducting the orchestra in [[Wikipedia:Arcangelo Corelli|Corelli]]'s ''Christmas Concerto'', which has been a lot of fun. Conducting Baroque music has an effect on me sort of like "runner's high"; by the end of the rehearsal I'm a little giddy. Their concert is Tuesday. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I had no idea you were once a homeschooler! So was I from K-12. I'm still very glad of it and quite appreciative of the sacrifices my dear mother made to teach me (especially since I was sometimes grotesquely lazy). Anyway, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup. From about halfway through 2nd grade, when my Mom pulled me out because I was having serious problems. I was ADD (not hyperactive) before it had really become well-known, and my teacher couldn't understand why I wasn't getting my worksheets ''{sneer expressing intense teacherly contempt for worksheets}'' done without supervision. Plus I was a real troublemaker, having problems "keeping my hands to myself" (less from agression than from a confusion about the fact that tripping others or swinging my lunchbox into them was not as funny for them as for me). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Not that it's much to add, but my ex was homeschooled. I think kids can benefit more through homeschooling. If I have kids, I'd like them to be homeschool as much as possible too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Let me hasten to say that, as somebody about to be employed by it, I'm definitely not anti-public-education-system. The pros and cons of homeschooling versus public would have to do largely with what you felt the purpose of school was. If you adhered to a very traditional understanding of education in which "knowledge" meant a canon of factual information to be "uploaded" from written curricula and direct instruction into students' minds—in which "school" was primarily about the stuff it seems, on the surface, to be about (Reading 'n' Riting 'n' 'Rithmetic, etc.)—then yeah, that can be more efficiently accomplished through 1-on-1 instruction. But if you define "knowledge" as socially created, i.e. understanding is best achieved by experiencing something rather than hearing about it, and the transfer of experiential understandings through group work is not simply a side effect of schooling but an asset; if you think that what school is there to provide is not simply the official curriculum but the hidden curricula of social interaction and societal structures, and especially if you place a priority on exposing your child to other socioeconomic groups and cultures, then public school becomes desirable. (Although, contrary to popular opinion, homeschooling isn't typically insular; I had just as much contact with peers via co-opped classes and extracurricular clubs as most public schoolers. It would still be possible to achieve all the benefits above, though in my experience you might have to look outside the homeschooling community for meaningful interaction with other cultures.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:I seem to be a bit late to this conversation, but I just figured I'd also meantion I was homeschooled from grade 2 onward as well. I switched when we moved way up country to Quesnel, and when we moved back south I never went back. I liked it, especially since it's so flexible. A bit ''too'' flexible sometimes too, it is somewhat dificult to stay on schedule. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

::I too, am late in responding, but I will anyway. Yes, I, too, occasionally found it too flexible. My mother can tell many a story of my dreadful procrastination. It still bites me occasionally, but I think I've mostly outgrown that bad habit now. (Of course, finding the Wiki has done nothing to improve my habits in that area...) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, hehe. Perhaps my earlier Wikiing is partly responsible for the remarkable intensity of my finals-period workload, which is why I haven't been on her much in a couple of weeks. Anydangways... I'm back! Missed y'all. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I am updating my Honorary Gang Members electronic page and I need the following information. '''Stop'''

What rank would you consider yourself in my gang? '''Stop'''

For example, I am the '''"Brains"'''. '''Stop'''

The Sneak is '''"The Thief"'''. '''Stop'''

And The Strong Man is '''"The Brawn"'''. '''Stop'''

Please try not to use any of those ranks. '''Stop'''

Please respond on my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:Gee, I'm not sure, S.S. Bad. I think I need to rewatch Ocean's 11 for ideas. I'll get back to you, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Official "You're Back!" Greetings ==

Hey, what can we say but that we missed you? I constantly kept thinking "Gee, where's Abdi and his amazing replies an' such?" I even tried to fill your niche whilst you were gone (check my contributions. There's at least one marked "An Abdi-worthy reply"), but to no avail. So now we won't be too bored, with so many other people leaving the wiki for the hols. Glad to have ya back, Abdi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:<s>Oh? You were gone?</s> Er... I mean... glad to have you back too! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I noticed you'd been a bit scarce around here. I figured it was school-related. I've been done for over a week now. I'm in Oregon visiting family and friends for Christmas, but I'm still definitely present on the Wiki. So don't worry, either you or DorianGray, I'll be there like shareware. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Glad to have you back, man! And I also rememebred you. See my reply over [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17#Is_it_cardboard.2C_or_is_it_feedback.3F|TB's talk]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
You guys are so nice! So—yeah... guess that was kind of a false alarm, what with not visiting for another week. As you guessed, H.L., my absence up until about the 22nd was school-related, but absence since then was spending-Christmas-with-the-family-related. To be more specific, sitting-around-in-pajamas-eating-chocolate-and-drinking-hot-cider-and-egg-nog-alternately-for-three-days-straight-related. We punctuated the festive lethargy with trips to Narnia and King Kong, which were both just great, in their (very different) ways. Next up: Pride & Prejudice (yes, there ''are'' men who dig it), Harry Potter, The Producers, maybe some Memoirs of a Geisha, and all those things from a while ago like Crash or Zorro that I haven't seen yet. Whew! The worload!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic crisis! ==

Dear, Sir Viklas '''Stop'''

I apologize for being absent for a while. '''Stop'''

The Decemberween season keeps me busy even in the past! '''Stop'''

It is a delight to recollect with the gang during this glorious season! '''Stop'''

However our joyous gatherings may have to end shortly. '''Stop'''

For a complaint has been presented to my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Please refer to my talk page and view the complaint from Sir Dot Com. '''Stop'''

If you all agree to the idea he has proposed then the gang may live for another day! '''Stop'''

I thank you all in the most gracious manner and bid you a very merry Decemberween season! '''Stop'''

Sincerely,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:See [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images]] for more info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing great. i just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thank you for your kind messages, you've helped me quite a bit. We friends right?

merry christmas [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:04, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:Course we friends, foo! You're my only Macedonian Aussie friend; those are hard to come by! Seriously, I'm really happy that you've stayed involved in the wiki, and I admire the fact that you keep asking about things and improving your wiki skills. Thanks for saying hi for the holidays; it's a little late to return the Merry Christmas, but I hope you have a great New Year's! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Happy new year ==

Happy new year and a enjoyable year for you, see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings from M.J ==
Uh, Hi, you may not remember me but I was a long term member of the hrwiki and then got locked out with the changing of sites and re-registering and the no-annonymous-users-can-edit situation.
''{takes breath}'' anyhoo I'm back and I wanted to thank you for your support, I was going to give up on the hrwiki and never return until I got your message on my livejournal account a while back urging me to keep battling on. So Thanks! I'll show myself out -[[User:MJ|MJ]]

== thanks, abdi ==
thanks for reducing the exc. points on my guestbook. ciberdude also seems to have accidently added four 4's instead of three on his signature. that man does not know what he is doing. just like you did to me, i hope we can somehow teach him to be more familiar with the wiki. thanks to you, i'm joining the welcoming commitee. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::''{note: This edit and its reply were made after the entries below them}'' for the record i '''do''' know what i am doing. i used to be a nerd, fixing trolling, reverting stupid ideas, but then when i tried to add to the [[www.hrwiki.org|wiki]] i kept getting reverted on all the references and goofs. so i thought that the wiki must not like too streached references and i started deleting stuff but that went down hill when thise edit got reverted so i realized that all of you are exactally the kind of person [[Strong Bad|SB]] would hate. so i decided to troll and troll and troll and troll and troll [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Wow. Um, I assume you changed your mind again. But yeah, the experience you mentioned (getting reverted at first) is so common I put some stuff into my [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome|welcome template]] about it. It's tough, because everybody makes an attachment, however little, between their edits and themselves; praise for their edits is praise for them and an abrupt and ignominious death for their edits is felt personally too. And yeah, you woudn't be the first who's responded to that injury by trolling. But as I'm sure you've experienced, all that reverting at the beginning is really just the result of the wiki learning curve; like people make edits that don't match the standards or that say something that was already said elsewhere. So anyway, I hope you're finding it a little less frustrating now being "the kind of person SB would hate." (Actually, seriously, I don't think he would; he's a pretty big grammar nerd himself. But yes, the kind of personality that makes the wiki work is closer to Adrian Monk's [[Wikipedia:Obsessive-compulsive disorder|OCD]] than Strong Bad's "whatever"-ness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:''{responding to Seriously again}'' Don't mention it. And thanks for your response patching things up with Ciberdude (though I took the liberty of moving it from ''User talk:Ciberdude'' to [[User talk:Ciberdude444]]). There are some unfortunate examples on the wiki of users who are still pissed at each other and seriously make life rough; there are also ''daily'' examples of people who might have reason to be offended with each other shrugging it off and being generous about it. I encourage you to keep doing that—and not just making it so relationships with other users are "okay," but actually actively trying to improve them (i.e. calling them on it when they make a really good edit, or just making them feel good in whatever way you can). It's not just some Hallmark-Care-Bears conspiracy to make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy; it actually makes for a better website (and ultimately better people in real life!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. In other words, easy with comments like "doesn't know what he is doing." Yeah, literally, we're all learning more about how this wiki thing works every day (like just a minute ago I learned how to resize an image!). But be careful not to be insulting. (Also, I don't think there's any clue about Ciberdude's gender; assuming all online types are male can be dangerous!) Unrelatedly, cool that you're joining the welcoming committee! It's a great feeling when you get to welcome someone (though you have to have a fast trigger finger around here; the past few days I've seen, like, six new users get welcomed by other folks before I had a chance!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

nice. real nice. "quick! the carebears are coming! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
anyway, i don't even know your gender, so i can't say anyting. i'm pretty sure thunderbird is a guy, but i'll have to look into it. i'm guessing......your......a......guy? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. (Come to think of it, I guess my user page, while it tells ''everything'' else about me, doesn't mention that!) I was thinking of users like [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] who often get assumed to be guys. (And Soylent Green is a hilarious movie.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

true dat. in fact, double true.
if you know what snl skit double true is from, you get a gold star. hint: it's new. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ironically, although I ''know'' about the Chroni(what?)cles of Narnia, I haven't seen it yet. (The rap, I mean; the movie was great.) I'm-a go see if I can hunt down a copy hosted by a site my filter won't block. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
youtube.com
:Yeah, that didn't work for me, but I found one that did. Dang; now I want a cupcake! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
two. no six. no twelve. BAKER'S DOZEN!!

dude, is that not the funniest thing you have ever seen? i watch it all the time. in fact, i'ma go watch it right now. see ya. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 22:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, that was up there with the Cowbell. I think the NY Times (or was it Slate?) was right; what makes it funny isn't just that their whiteness but the extraordinary harmlessness and yuppiness of their subject matter. I'm reminded of Weird Al's ''It's All About the Pentiums''. ("I'm the king of the spreadsheets / got 'em printed out all over my bedsheets...") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

due, seriously. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==ciberdude444's at it ==
abdi, ciberdude444 has once again reverted my comment on the guestbook. i said it was okay, but i didn't think it would be like this. i don't want to edit something on his userpage, and i doubt he will listen to me. i will try anyway, but i need your help.
:Meh; it doesn't seem to me like it matters a ton either way. The question is who gets "custody"; whether you can't edit because it's his userpage or he can't edit because it's your comment. There's no official rule about it, but it seems like nobody should have to live with stuff on their userpage they don't want, or with their edits misrepresented. I think I'll revert it to your signature alone, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a really big deal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, ab! abdi! abdivi! abdiviklas! yeah, i just don't like that stuff. it's a tender relationship, we don't him to put stuff that i would assume offensive and start another argument. i just want to take things carefully. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::who needs grammar lessons now? "we don't him to put stuff " whats that suposed to mean?
:Cool. Also, with regard to the age thing, maybe the best thing you could do would be to take your real name off your page. Zillions of people could be your age, but you'd be ''amazed'' how easy it is to trace a person from their name. (In my city, at least, if you've ever voted, the info on how you're registered and your voting history, plus address, is right there on the web for free!) I've got my age on mine but don't give out my name or anything else very personally identifiable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== what do you like mostly about homestar runner? ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been i've been doing great, the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Man... actually, that's a really tough one to answer. Why ''do'' we—or I, at least—like H*R so much? I think it has a lot to do with the form it's in—relatively short cartoons updated roughly weekly for free, and all accessible at any time. I mean, let's face it; it has nowhere near the same number of laughs-per-week as, say, Simpsons or Futurama, but if H*R were on TV it would mean it would come in 30' chunks instead of 6' max, and (Tivo aside) you could only get to it at specific times, one 'toon at a time. The best time of my life was when I was watching the Strong Bad Emails for the first time, and was spending days at a time just watching them back-to-back chronologically; I think they're actually funnier that way.
:But I haven't ''really'' answered your question. What ''element'' of H*R do I like best? Well... I dunno. Do I like the randomness of its humor, or its relevence (via the "pop culture, mumble grumble" references)? Do I appreciate more its PG rating or the frequent ways it pushes that envelope (which, frankly, are funnier because they're so unexpected than the reliable shock-humor of Family Guy and related shows)? Do I enjoy Strong Bad's wittiness or Homestar's naivete (or Marzipan's activism or Strong Sad's misunderstood artistic sensibilities)? Can't say. I guess it's '''D''', all of the above!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

i kinda agree with you, the reason i like homestar runner the best on the internet, for its humour, the way it uses pop culture like simpsons a bit, and the characters. but the reason why i like it is:'

because it acts like a cartoon. i'll explain:

you see most of the things you find on the internet are either horrible violent with lots of swearing or lots of adult content. but homestar runner is nothing like it. Do you understand?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ps: i do aslo enjoy sb emails long or short toons, the characters etc.

==welcoming==
can i join the welcoming comitte? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 17:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sure! Check out [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]]; it's got all the details on how to do so. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, that kind of proves my point. ==

''"sorry, rv; "hypocrisy" seems to me to have inaccurate connotations. He doesn't *give* a darn, really, whether "jillion" is a real word."''

The fact that he doesn't give a darn is kind of the point. He holds everyone else up to quite lofty standards of perfect spelling and grammar but doesn't do the same. That is the definition of hypocrisy and being a hypocrit. "Do as I say and not as I do." -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see what you mean. But see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Strong_Bad&curid=818&diff=230061&oldid=230056&rcid=174751 reply just now] on [[Talk:Strong Bad]], disagreeing somewhat with that definition of hypocrisy. The definition you offer is certainly a common one, but I feel it's a misuse of the word. "Inconsistency" might be better. I also reverted partly because I just felt like, by itself, it wasn't that remarkable; now, if a page gets made, that would be a reason to have a remark saying something like "this is another instance of '''Strong Bad's Usage Errors'''" or the like. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== An electronic GIF! ==

Dear Sir Viklas, '''Stop'''

Please view the brand new symbol-ma-drawin' I have crafted on my electronic user page! '''Stop'''

Has fun! '''Stop'''

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== Manual of Style ==

Actually, I ''just'' added that rule (and it was because I saw the stripèd discussion, though I'd been considering it for a while), but it actually works in your favor if you count the fact that (a sentence prior) Strong Bad actually ''did'' write "striped" while pronouncing it "stripèd". Thus, this one can go either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the Appetizers/Appe-teasers example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that was actually a bad example (as "Appe'teasers'" is written in the 'toon in question in an Easter Egg, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].) But, if we were to assume that nothing was written, then you'd still want to write "Appe-teasers" because that's what was said. There are better examples out there, though... most of what Coach Z says, for instance. That was just the first thing to cross my mind. This has been the unofficial consensus for a while, actually; I was just trying to make it official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. We've got a lot of back-revising to do on it, then. But maybe before we do, at least with regard to the aspiration-of-"-ed"-suffixes issue, see my hesitance I just added to [[Talk:highschool#Accent on striped]]. I agree that using the diacritical is preferable to "stripe-ed", but—I can't get over it's funnylookiness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::One more question: What's an example of a mispronounced word where the phonetic spelling is identical to the standard spelling? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just thinking hypothetically, maybe something like pronouncing "bomb" with the final ''b'' aspirated, but not enough to transcribe as "bombuh". You'd have to add a note. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Colonel" is a good one. Currently, it's written as such on every relevant page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, now I understand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Sorry. You must be talking about my first upload. Right after I saw it had no copright notice, I went to fix it. I did so for the other 3. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:Also, will you check to see if this is ok? [[Characters#Other_Alternates]]. The teen versions. Thanks. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Looks okay to me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Edit conflicts ==

Hey there, Dr. AdbiViklas. I'm totally cool with you giving 24.239.109.228 [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:24.239.109.228&diff=prev&oldid=239289 extra instruction], but I just want to point out that noting an edit conflict is completely unnecessary in this case. In fact, most times, noting edit conflicts are unnecessary. Crapfully crap, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; I know that the general rule is "if your comment would still make sense in the flow of the page don't note it"; in this case I did note it because otherwise there wasn't much explanation for my commenting at all! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it looks unprofessional to have a note up there. You can easily reword the message and have it flow. I would agree with it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::That makes sense; I did so and also added a bit about the turn he took. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Heh. You're awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::LOL; on the wiki I seem to be permanently in schoolteacher mode, in which first-time vandals are suspendees and potential dropouts. (The alarming thing that just kind of clicked for me recently is that these users ''are'' in fact real people, and their interaction with this wiki is a window of opportunity to teach them about how to interract with others. (Yes yes, and about H*R!) That's why, although the squabbles and typos of middle-school users take up time and energy, I'm glad we have them. The whole Seriously/Totebag/Ciberdude deal is a chance for three guys either to learn that nothing's fair, no one in authority cares, and name-calling and petty revenge get results, or to learn that co-operation and community are more than smarmy buzzwords and are actually realisable and effective. Then, realizing that two of those go to the same school: what could be the exponential impact of two kids who actually believed that?) So even though chances are good he'll never come back, and even though it was kind of silly of me to do so, that's why I left that for him; I daydream that maybe he's at a formative moment in his life and the wiki could tip the balance between a life of crime and a career as a school counselor or a Doctor Without Borders or some such. It sounds cheesy, but... maybe it's not too great an exaggeration! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I just read all of that. I should print that out and save it for posterity. ''print_of_it.exe''. I don't find it silly. That's the perfect way you should treat someone like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, I added another note on the the IP user talk page noting that the article talk page (rather than STUFF) would be the best place to discuss the change he wanted to make. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::P.S. I was edit-conflicted on this edit. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::::LOL; thanks both of you. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Incidentally, what do you mean "three guys [are] either to learn that nothing's fair [and that] no one in authority cares"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think anyone's going to learn that around here! I just mean that's the burden of responsibility on us. If this place had the atmosphere that a lot of fansites and online communities in general did... well, events wouldn't have played out the way they ''did''. I leave it to your imaginations to conjecture what would have happened (hint: the ''Lord of the Flies'' allusion might not be too far off!). And from a teacher point of view, that ''is'' a lesson kids get in school far too often ("nobody cares", plus they have no agency so why bother). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I ask because my goal as an admin is to always be fair. I sincerely hope that I am not playing favorites with any one of them, instead treating them based on their actions and by the way they respond to instructions. So long as they stop squabbling, I'm willing to leave the past in the past, but if they insist on bickering, a certain train is going to be dropped. I like to think I have a good bit of patience, but I admit it's wearing quite thin. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's dot com, you ''define'' fair administration!! Yeah, of course any of the involved parties would bring that accusation (which is explained partly by adolescent developmental psych, a time when you're trying to figure out exactly what your standing in relation to others is), but I'm a witness on this one at least. As far as patience goes, that's one thing that makes me think I might make a good teacher, since I seem to have an unusually high frustration threshhold. But even I've reached it a couple of times just in the past few months of rehearsing unruly orchestras! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== im back! ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i;ve been doing great becasue i was on a 10 day holiday to the gold coast with my family. on the 5/1/06. fantastic. so whats been going on, with you?

Ps:WHats happended to bubsty, when i checked bubsty's user page, all that was written was bye wiki, whats happened?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right—very sad: evidently he's had to quit the wiki for some reason. See his talk page for many expressions of grief at his leaving, several quite eloquent. (I know you ''have'' seen it because you signed it, but I mean higher up.)
:I'm glad you had a nice vacation; it's summer for you, right? I'm in North Carolina, which is kinda southern US, and we've been having a really warm January anyway; last week it was 68° (Farenheit). But tonight it's back below freezing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== looking for an explanation ==

Why did you add the definition for decoupage to "Death Metal"'s "Explanation" section? I realize it starts with "de" and has something to do with glue. Those do not seem like enough to bother including the word in the email's wiki page.
--[[User:209.157.156.126|209.157.156.126]] 10:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; not just those, but because of Taranchula's video (some helpful anonymous IP has just now added the lyrics), ''The Decoupage''. Yeah, if it weren't for that, it would be a seriously unnecessary fact! (By the way, speaking of helpful anonymous IPs, your interest in the accuracy of the article and the fact that you knew and bothered to sign your post are a little unusual in anonymous users; have you ever considered [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|becoming a member]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey sir ==

Thanks about the poster thing. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fractured discussion ==

Hey there. One of the problems with such a multifaceted discussion is that the replies can get a little (or a lot) scattered. So I just wanted to let you know that I have replied to no fewer times than to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Other|your proposal]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Move_existing_ones_to_subpages_and_lock_them|your question here]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Comments|your comments here]], and also [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Oppose|that big long thread]] with Darth Katana X. I would read them all first before replying, as they kinda form one big thought. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

==''thanks, abdi'' 2: Son of ''[[#thanks, abdi|thanks, abdi]]''==
well, thanks to you and dot com, i now have a username. thanks a lot, i will join a lot of commitees. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

by the way, when i was an anonymous user, you said something about how if i am who you think i am, it's important that i take the plunge. i have a brother who is a wiki user, but i am on my own laptop, so it's not like you could match the ip addresses if you thought i was him. so........just who do you think i am? [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:The combination of the fact that you commented on [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]'s talk page and mentioned that someone you knew got blocked suggested that you might know either him or a couple of other users that he had some interaction with. Plus you now say on your user page that he's your brother. If I'm not mistaken, your brother's blockedness is up today or tomorrow; a couple of edits you made to his user page got reverted because we don't really let people (even siblings) edit each others' pages, but he can do them himself then. If he doesn't, bug him to; we have quite a few users who started out getting temporarily blocked and ended up as major contributors (I seem to remember there's some sysop with that story, though I can't find who it is at the moment). I hope your brother and another user who got blocked at the same time do exactly that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is the name you're looking for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks; that was my hunch, but I couldn't verify it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::yeah, now i am unblocked, and i feel great about it. by the way, no, i didn't tell him to do those edits (although he said i did) and he really won't be on that much anymore. this website is too cool for him. plus, he said he just wanted to try it out, y'know? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

wait, why did you change the headline to a familiar joke that's on the tip of my tongue? well, you are a teacher, and i am a caps-hating 11 year old with poor grammar (but good spelling!), so you would know it better than i would. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=246006&oldid=246003 LOL]! Perhaps this might be a sign of archival necessities. Even I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=prev&oldid=218187 have been asked] to archive... and you're at 70! :) Welcome to the wiki [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] and [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]!! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yeltensic&diff=246355&oldid=246350 seriously].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you, stux, but i have been on the wiki since nov. 8. and thank you for the backup on that comment. i just think it should be reworded. also, sice the guestbooks are going soon, please sign mine. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

oh, wait. you already have. thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Lol. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::yeah, if ever evidence that i was an idiot, that was it. ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad you're back, Will; I meant what I said above (and mean it for Ciberdude as well). In answer to your question, I realized that the section heading your brother used originally was the exact same you had used higher on the page, and it confused the browser when it tried to jump to the section. I'm not sure what exactly I'm referencing with the "Son of", other than the stereotypical 30s-monster-movie sequels that get referenced all the time (''Son of Dracula! · Bride of Frankenstein! · Second Cousin Once Removed of Wolfman!''). At least I didn't say ''Electric Boogaloo''. And as for archiving, Stux, despite the recent caving of a prominent holdout, I'm being obstinate. I don't see a particular need to yet, especially since I just recently discovered that ctrl+home and ctrl+end jump to the top or bottom of a page instantly! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I hate to break it to you (ok not really) but lemme tell you a little secret... for web pages, Home and End works just as well! ;) Well, the ball is rollin', I'm sure that circumstances (and pressures ;)) will chage... :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== (Not so) random encouragement for your recent efforts ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've been incredibly busy (like to the point of consecutive all-nighters) for the past week, so I just dropped in and don't know how much I might have missed (though I'm piecing together a picture that involves iPods, sockpuppets, Animal Crossing, and the like. I'm probably going to be similarly sparse for the next week; I don't count on sleeping tonight, anyway! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey there, hope all's going well for you. We miss you when you're not around. I should probably be pulling all-nighters too (and not all-nighter troll fights, like I did Saturday), with the work I have to do. But I'm not. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um, I have 8 words for you: Wow! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ok now that I've made my obligatory short random message, on to the real random message. But i don't have much time to talk so I'll try to be briefer than brief. By um, our standards :). Excellent points on the [[HRWiki_talk:Guestbooks]] article! I like the ideas, though right now I don't have the time nor the imagination to be that creative. Still, I like it. I brings hope in a otherwise tense and (not) hopeless situation. I brings an alternative to a post guestbook-alyptic world. It's the feel good movie -- er I'm getting carried away. But seriously, what I'm trying to say is this: to me there seemed there was much tension that arose with the guestbook situation (and certain events didn't help things), more so than with most issues. Your options and optimism, I think, will help ease those fears and tensions in some of our users. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==We Are The Wiki==
''This is an expansion of an idea from [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities]].'' 
     The recent [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]] phenomenon brought into discussion a tension that has been around for a while. Specifically, many who supported guestbooks felt that HRWiki is, or should be, a place for H*R fans to interact. Others pointed out that it is a "knowledge base," and that its activity should be limited to the upkeep of its content, and pure socializing done in other venues such as the forum. "I'm ... hesitant" about my own position on this issue, and the wording I used in the "Guestbook replacement" suggestions reflects a hope that the wiki's fun (maybe even frivolous?) functions and its documentary function are not mutually exclusive. 
     The fact is, though, some of my suggestions (based on current user practices) toy with a fine and elusive line in [[HRWiki:User space]]. My suggestions included saying hi to other users on their talk pages and featuring content on your user page that provokes responses on your talk page. Now a few quotes from [[HRWiki:User space]] include (emphasis added):
*''Your user talk page is for other users to discuss matters ''related to the Wiki'' with you.
*''Generally, you should avoid any ''substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki''. Examples include ... ''discussion not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki'' ... excessive personal information ... opinion pieces not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki or other non-encyclopedic material...''
     By a strict reading, this could be taken to mean that ''any'' discussion on a Talk page or a User talk page that is not ''directly'' related to a matter of editing is in noncompliance. I'm not going to take the trouble or embarrassment of linking to examples, but I suspect every user here has at some time been party to a discussion that had nothing immediately to do with H*R or the wiki. However, there are several (intentionally) vaguely-defined phrases in there: Just how much is "substantial content"? How much personal information is "excessive"? How much opinion constitutes a "piece"? But the Great Loophole is this line:
*''Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.''
     This, dear friends, is the text of my sermon today. This line expresses—guardedly and with many qualifications—a recognition that certain "not strictly 'on-topic'" behaviors may in fact be not simply permissible but indirectly beneficial. It does not go on to specify what these behaviors "at their worst" might do, but recent events certainly helped us imagine. So it is with great care, my brothers, yea with gravity and trepidation, that we invoke this clause. It is not intended to justify chaos, or to effortlessly nullify the injunctions above it. Yet invoke it I must, and I do so with sobriety and deference. 
     'Nuff preacher-talk. So: what is this clause? Is it a contradiction? Is it a weak concession to the fact that we all chat a little here and there, and it doesn't seem to be killing us? What about that last sentence: "At their best, such activities help us build the community, and this helps us to build the knowledge-base." Do you really believe that, or is it just a pleasant fiction softened by euphemism? What ''is'' this "community" of which we speak so often? 
     (Now, a disclaimer: I don't know a lot about "Wiki" philosophy overall; I've never been involved with Wikipedia and know little of its ideological history. When I say "wiki" I'm speaking specifically of HRWiki, and what I've observed here.) But I'll tell you what I've seen: I've seen people on the Eastern seaboard, the Pacific coast, Texas, Canada, Israel, Australia-by-way-of-Macedonia, and everywhere in between talking, collaborating, and knowing each other's "names" and personalities, not just demographics. I've seen users genuinely broken up over the "departure" of people they've never seen or shaken hands with—which would be odd behavior for a group of cyber-librarians who just happen to be simultaneously working on a database. I've seen users respond to vandal attacks, some of them massive, not with a language of personal injury ("Oh no, what'll ''I'' do?" "Look at all this I've got to revert!"), but calling each other by name and encouraging each other. I've seen users take great pride in their personal contributions, presumably experiencing the joy of accomplishment and becoming incrementally better defended against the paralysis of percieved incompetence. I've seen users engage in heated—often turbulent—disagreement, and learn, albeit by trial and error, how to do so in a civil, productive, and charitable way. 
     Let's step back for a sec. What are you doing? You're sitting on your butt looking at a computer—which is displaying an "opinion piece" about a wiki—which attempts to chronicle and analyze every minutest detail of an internet cartoon—which itself consists of some eccentric and anatomically deficient characters saying a few minutes of funny things on roughly a weekly basis. Is this feeding children in Africa? Is it curing cancer? Is it impacting the policies and actions of national or local governments? Well—hold that thought. My point is: '''what is the ultimate purpose of this wiki?''' Yes, recent discussions have precipitated a restatement that its primary purpose, it's ''raison d'etre'', is to be a knowledge base, documenting H*R cartoons. But its primary purpose does not disallow secondary purposes, and I see its potential for teaching "community" to be a compelling one. If, through this wiki, even one person learns how to work collaboratively with others, to encourage each other's efforts, and above all how do disagree with someone and debate that opinion in an open, respectful, and supportive way, ''and'' if these lessons transfer over into real life, then something much greater has happened than simply transcribing a web cartoon. And it ''could'' very well impact the society and governance of neighborhoods and nations. 
     This brings me to the title of this section. '''We are the wiki.''' The wiki is binary data on a server, yes, but without us it would be static. Furthermore, because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=157523&oldid=157522 the wiki is a liquid], it assumes the contour of its container, the users. If we were replaced with a different set of users, the wiki would become fundamentally different. A gardening model is not adequate for the wiki—we are not groundskeepers, who come in and work on "the wiki"; we ''are'' an integral and vital part of it. If there is an analogy, maybe we're like a good sports play—ahem, sports ''team'': the members of a baseball team all work together on something (the game), but if they all got up and left "the game" wouldn't remain (just a stadium full of very surprised fans). You see what this means? Nearly every user here expresses some desire to "help the wiki," "maintain the wiki," or otherwise contribute to its upkeep and improvement. The most immediate way to do that, certainly, is to edit mainspace articles. But tending to relationships with other users—cultivating them, pruning them, mediating them, and healing them—is every bit as much a way of improving the wiki. 
     On the flipside, that's what's so terrible about [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|true trolls]] (as opposed to vandals): Just as vandals attack the digital, visible fabric of the wiki, trolls attack the relational, social fabric of it. A vandal simply aspires to scrawl a few lines of graffiti; a troll aspires to tear ''us'' apart. Which is more insidiously devestating? A vandal can be reverted and blocked in seconds. The damage of trolling, if accomplished, is far harder to repair. So if you consider yourself a "troll fighter," take a deep breath and a look in the mirror before replying hastily to another user: when you damage a relationship, ''you'' are the troll. And keep in mind that, unlike the many defensive tools we have against vandalism, our ''only'' defense against this vulnerability is the intentional, calculating, untiring maintenance of our "community" ties—in other words, working specifically on "being friends." 
     This is where the last phrase of that Loophole gets its justification. "Building the community" does ''indeed'' "help to build the knowledge base." It defends and perpetuates it, and gives it a greater excuse for existing than the Flash-based antics of an Internet phenomenon. And for that reason there ''is'' an excuse for User talk content to go beyond "What's up with this edit?" and "Please delete a personal pic." ''As long as'' the activity is kept within reasonable bounds, and does ''not'' in fact impede the wiki's primary functioning—and ''if'' it is ''meaningfully effective'' at building relatinships—then it is not simply irrelevent frivolity; it is in fact... the Work of the Wiki. 
     Whew! That was long! If you just read all that, thanks and I'm sorry! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Don't be sorry. What you wrote was true to the deepest. '''We''' are the Wiki. You, me, the gnomes, the admins, the fanstuffers, the forumers, the developers, those who left, those who lurk, those that always complain that they spend too much time on "Dumb animal characters". '''We''' are all part of this, and I know it sounds like a cliché, but we must continue joining together for a common couse. It's hard to write as long as you do, but I just want to say: '''Thank you HRWiki.''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::You just said exactly what I've wanted to say ever since I joined this Wiki. At the risk of sounding like a complete nerd, I truly have to say that the friendships I've built on this Wiki are better than some of my friendships in real life. What I love about this Wiki is that you feel this sense of community that is hard to feel on other HUGE wikis like Wikipedia. Everyone knows each other, everyone participates in discussions, and everyone here has one thing in common: Homestar Runner. Thank you AbdiViklas. Thank you to everyone working on this Wiki, for you are not really working on the Wiki, '''You are the Wiki itself.''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That was by far the smartest thing I have ever heard. Like has matt, That's what I have been so afraid to say all along. It's so, so true. Amazing. You, sir, are in the skys, in the empire of great writers like Jack London, and pretty much everyone who has inspired me. Thank you. {{User: Seriously/sig}}

== Personal Images ==

I draw you attention to [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images|Sir Strong Bad's]] talk page where you offered to take one of Sir Strong Bad's personal images for your own so that he will be in compliance with the image policy. Please choose one of the following images and claim as your own if you have an image slot to spair by inserting your name into the <nowiki>{{personal-image|Sir Strong Bad}}</nowiki> tag:
[[:Image:SSB's Gang.gif|SSB's Gang.gif]] 
[[:Image:SBadiaRula B&W.jpg|SBadiaRula B&W.jpg]] 
[[:Image:B and W Swedish Fish.jpg|B and W Swedish Fish.jpg]] 
<s>[[:Image:Macedonia B and W.jpg|Macedonia B and W.jpg]] </s>
[[:Image:Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG|Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG]] 
<s>[[Image:homestaryodlebw.PNG|homestaryodlebw.PNG]] </s>

I show that you have 2 empty personal image slot. Thanks, have a great day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
:I took the fish. I would have sooner, but I wasn't sure whether it required anything more elaborate than changing the template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Kaption Kontest ==
Yeah, could I follow the rules by making it on my [[User:Seriously/old captions|Archive]]? Also, I strongly disagree with this rule when it's only a bit of fun. There is no con to people editing my userpage; unless it's the ever-hated guestbook signing or vandalizing (obviously.) I would like you to consider letting me keep it as it presents no immediate harm. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, why havn't you been on? I miss seeing comments with 100 lines just to fit your ideas. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL; because the 100 lines have been going into school-related activities. I was far more active in December and January since I had less work. Expect higher involvement in March, declining in April, and nearly non in mid-May, with a sudden spike around the last week. And a 60% chance of rain.
::Now then, about the captions: I guess it's not a hard-'n'-fast ''rule'' per se at the moment, and it's certainly not a matter of ''making'' you move it. What we ''do'' have in the way of suggestions on the topic: It's dot com says in [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities|HRWiki talk:Guestbooks]], "Please note that you should not encourage people to edit your user page, for any reason." [[HRWiki:User space#What can I have on my user page?|HRWiki:User space]] says "In general, avoid editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct any linking errors that might confuse readers. However, some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect." This clearly means that non-owner edits aren't ''completely'' forbidden. It also hints at a possibility that the owner could encourage the edits of others, though from context and when it was written, I imagine it means an invitation to feel free to correct mistakes or improve content (for instance, [[User:FireLily]], [[User:Ppk01#Japanese_Character_Names]], or [[User:Thechamp#Links_and_stuff]]). That would probably result in much less frequent non-owner editing than a recurring feature. So yeah, I'm certainly not "making" you move it, but I still suggest it. Kinda using your argument against you, what would it hurt? Well... I suppose even if you kept the image and an "edit!" link on your user pages, the captions wouldn't be with it. I was thinking there might be some way, via [[Wikipedia:Transclusion|Transclusion]], to keep the content elsewhere, have users edit elsewhere, but have it show up on your user page. I did a test in the sandbox that seemed like that didn't work, but I haven't given up on it yet. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Update: I wasn't able to get transclusion to work in my brief test. I tried putting <nowiki>{{User:AbdiViklas/welcome}}</nowiki> here, as my only subpage, and as expected it appeared. Then I went and edited the original welcome subpage and saved, but the edit didn't appear here on refresh. I'll have to submit this to those who know more about how this place works. '''Attention: 'elp!''' Is live transclusion (including updates being reflected) only for the Template namespace? Or did my test not work because the changes take more than a few seconds to propagate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Regarding transclusion: give it another go, but this time instead of a browser refresh, give the page an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&action=purge action=purge]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Cool. But I was just now trying it with [[HRFWiki:Sandbox]], since It's dot com asked that the contest be moved to Fanstuff, and I guess transclusion doesn't work interwiki? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Nope, no interwiki transclusion. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Ach wohl. (For Heimstern's benefit!) So I guess, unless It's dot com's cool with it being on a subpage, the best you can do is put the image and a link on your user page. You could of course update it manually when someone adds to it over at Fanstuff. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me. ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wow; congratulations! I've got a couple of awards [[#GVBAoA|higher up on this page]], but not pizza-based! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Pizza's always better. It also feels good that this trophy is actually taken seriously, as it seems it means much more to users than I thought it did. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Google fight? ==

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/TheKookyOne/googlefight_kooky_abdi.png 
Well, you've beat me again, comrade! ''(Though, I must wonder, what 22,500 people would want to look us up so bad?)'' =P I'm just stopping by to say hi, considering it's been a while since I was around here. How've things been? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Egad—and just browsing the first few pages of those results ''are'' all posts of mine on here (plus a few on various tech support boards)! Is it really possible that I've made over <s>11,000</s> eleventyhundred edits? I'm not sure whether that's an accomplishment or a monumental squandering of time! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd lean towards "monumental squandering". Except I'm only 300 results behind you. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::: Yeah, well, I beat both of you ''combined''! 'Course it helps that my user name is an English word... :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah that's cuz you [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Jay cheated] :-p (at 157,000,000). For non common names I have Abdi and Kookyk [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Stux beat]: 287,000 to 14,100. But the ultimate winner has to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=It%27s+dot+com&word2=Stux Dot com]: weighin in at 501,000. Not to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Tom&word2=Jay outdone], Jay is easily outclassed by Tom at a whopping 539,000,000. Congratulbalatitaitions Tom! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::But Stux is a Linux program, isn't it? So most of those hits are not you. I get 26,500 hits, and you can guarantee they're all me! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Aw, I'm only at 1190 ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''EDC:''' Well... yeah (I'm surprised that you even know about it! I just learned that it existed today!) but I don't mind counting an OS named after me! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Mine is 239,000,000. That's just awesome. But what did I do to get so much? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Probably the fact that like Stux, Jay, and Tom, your username is also a word (and in your case, a common noun) that Google would find in other contexts. What's entertaining is pitting two [[Wikipedia:Egosurfer|ego-surfs]] against each other; for instance, my brother's name beats mine handily, despite the fact that I actually have a "real" entry (i.e. related to me) in the second page of my Google results, whereas his are all about some middle school and a guy who got the Victoria Cross. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Hey Abdi. It is my pleasure to announce that you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges and responsibilities. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. May you always use your powers for good and for awesome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Great jorb Abdi. You've deserved it all to much {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, congratulations. ^-^ Keep on doin' great things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Congratulations man! notstrongorbad just became a bit stronger, but still not badder. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Abdi. My main man. My ace in the hole. Well, a few months ago I would never have thought I'd beat you to sysophood, even by one day. Man, music grad students as sysops? Can the wiki '''handle this??!!''' Anyway, glad you're on board. Oh, and I still hope for Homestravinky Runner to be realised someday. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congradulations, AbdiViklas, AKA Notstrongnorbad, AKA Professor Tor Coolguy. Your devotion to the project and your long esseys about the site are the glue that keeps us together. You brought happiness and tolarance to the wiki in your own special way. You deserve this promotion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:Everyone, didn't I say this would happen? Huh? You and Lapper? In IRC? With excessive question marks? Hey, congrats. You're a great user, Abdi! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::From the minute you welcomed me, I knew you had syop potential. You're a truly great user, man. I'm glad this has finally happened to you. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::And two more. Does this mean I have to come up with more H*R-themed "congrats"? Uh... Oh, well, congratulations! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Congratulations! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well! For the longest time, I had thought you were a sysop - you welcomed me (and it wasn't until later that I realized you didn't have to be a sysop to do that), and you've always made outstanding edits to the wiki. I've certainly enjoyed working on this wiki with you and the rest of the gang <s>up here at Possum Lodge</s> - you're administra-awesome! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:Congrats, Abdi. I wasn't in on the decision (I wasn't back from hiatus until yesterday), but you'll be a great asset to our sysop team. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

'''OSCAR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH:''' Thank you—thank you all—<sob> ... so very much... Seriously, I appreciate youse guys' appreciation and encouragement; you're all swell gents (and... gentesses?). If you haven't noticed, I haven't been around so much lately; my school time requirements have been a lot higher since the beginning of February than they were before. But I still intend to show up ''at least'' once a week or so, and like all things, this crunch shall pass. So, until I poke my nose in again, Chins up! Tifle down! And so on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas (2) ==

How are you, anything happen to you recently?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'll say! In just the past week I: 1) Got a new dual-chip [http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn laptop computer] (with a coupon, got one worth $2,800 for $2,000), 2) got into a wreck—don't worry, I wasn't hurt at all and neither was anybody else—but my car was totalled and now I have to find a new one, and 3) was made a sysop! (And 4, made some Jambalaya. But it was already a day after Mardi Gras, so as a tribute to New Orleans it was a little late.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry about your car. Although it's still pretty awesome you were maqde a sysop, so that helps a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== You no old, man! ==

Since when is being over twenty-five old? An emcee that age would be considered very young. You're not old until you start ''acting'' old in my opinion. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Well, ''I'' feel old. I think it's when you ''feel'' old that it counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, considering that I routinely act about 16, I guess you've got a point, Darth. (That can be a little problematic when trying to ''teach'' 16-year-olds; I keep getting into discussions about Inuyasha...) But it does mean something when your closest friends stop saying things like "So where are we going tonight?" and start saying things like "So good to hear from you! Remind me of your phone number; I seem to have lost it." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::You sound like my mom. She's a teacher, too. Only, my mom likes ''Halo'' more than ''Inuyasha''. She, like, walks right past the bad guys and they don't even notice. She's also smart like you, too. My mom actually liked screamo metal rock before I did, and I started liking it because she listened to it all the time. And Dorian, I feel old all the time, but not right now because I'm on a sugar high...and I feel so alive...for the very first time...and if I have any more cookies I'll probably get so hyper I'll fly, fly (only P.O.D. nerds will get that). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== totally kill all imposters! ==

Hmmmmm... I have no idea how that happenned. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Ed smildE|Ed smilde]]/[[User talk:Ed smildE|talk]]

== Happy easter ==

Hello abdiviklas how are, how's easter (If you celebrate it?)?

What have you been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hi! My Easter was great; I spent most of the morning playing my violin in church (which isn't exactly like most churches' Easter service; our worship leader is a former R&B guitarist from Alabama, so my playing style in church is less classical and more a mix of Dave-Mathews-type rock and old-timey Appalachian-type sounds). I spent most of the rest of the day working on my taxes (which are due today) and making [http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipes/meat-poultry/greekmeatballs-cb.html "Greek" meatballs] (except I mixed ground lamb with the beef) with [http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/indian/00/rec0055.html cucumber raita]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::Glad to hear it. Let's hope the rest of the year is as kind. (And maybe with a little bit less tax mess. =p) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Hey, just to let you know... ==

Wiki grrl is my best friend. Pardon her grammer; she'll correct it. I told her about homestar a long time ago and now she finally created an account here. The "bug swallow" thing on her userpage is because one of her favorite quotes from here is the whole routine Homestar goes through when he swallows a bug in Bug In Mouth Disease. Just thought you might want to know. And don't ask about PEP. I can't tell you. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 21:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. I love it when people who know each other in "real life" are on the wiki. And I'm glad she finds [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] funny; I have a hard time doing so. I try, I really try, on a regular basis, but each time I come to the end of the toon feeling a little dissapointed. Funny how one person's favorite can be another's least favorite and vice versa! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

==Typo==
Holy cow. Thank you a hecka ton for catching that spelling mistake. I ment to say "Marzipan was originally intended to be Homestar's '''''girl'''''friend." Thanx for catching that. Now, should I post the revised fact somewhere on the page? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 20:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:My gut says no. The same thing is already said more fully at [[Marzipan]], but there it's speaking of character depth (i.e. just there as a "Homestar accessory"). Putting it in an article about their relationship and wording it as "originally intended to be" makes it sound like she isn't anymore. And I've known people with ''way'' more off-and-on relationships than Homestar and Marzipan who would still refer to each other as "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings and explanations ==

First off, thanks for streamlining the not-for-profit thing on the [[space program]] article. Your edit was what I thought of doing in the first place, but I thought it might be a bit presumptuous. After seeing someone else do it, I realize I was worrying about nothing.

Second, in response to the comment you affixed to a recent edit of [[band names]], Aerosmith is a misspelling of "arrowsmith", old term for someone who specialized in making arrows. When MTV did a 10th anniversary special, Mel Gibson did a segment introducing the band Aerosmith, and the segment started off with him making an arrow the old-fashioned way, with a big hammer and stuff, and as he was admiring his handiwork, he acted as if someone off-camera was talking to him and said "what? oh, the ''band'' Aerosmith? oh..." I hadn't actually heard the word before that, and I researched it and discovered that that's actually where the band got their name. It's a fairly obscure term these days, so it's not really a surprise that many people don't know the word (and the wing motif on their album covers coinciding with the "aero" prefix just confuses things even more). - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 10:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you learn something new every day! Especially my first thought for "someone who makes arrows" is "[http://www.tfd.com/Fletcher fletcher]". It was a little hard to track down, but [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Arrowsmith arrowsmith] does appear to be legit, though. (Nonetheless it's still a good candidate for the "two will do" principle; otherwise why not add Boyz II Men, Korn, Weezer, the Beetles, or the zillions of "ska"-derived names?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
== Yeah, Music Ed. Majors! ==
Hey! Thanks for the post on my talk page, I think it's always awesome to meet other musicians. The world doesn't have enough of us these days - at least, not enough good ones. Hillary Duff and Brittany Spears don't come close to counting! What's really awesome is that you studied at one of my top choices for Graduate school. (I'm getting my Masters and Doctorate Degrees in Performance, and Eastman has quite a track record in the trumpet world!) I'm also looking at Northwestern, CCM, Juliard, and DePaul, in no particular order. It's also nice to know that there are other Music people who waste as much time on this as I do, and likely more... {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 03:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strike! ==

I agree w/ you on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=senior_prom&curid=23493&diff=320901&oldid=320874&rcid=269236&hrwiki_mwiki6_session=a5568b8e1e114a5b647cdfc23672fe28 senior prom edit], but could you post what you summarized in the [[Talk:senior prom#Summary/Relevance|talk discussion]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== (No subject) ==

6 days 'go responded to that on my talk page case you wanted to look at that. I'm starting to sound like Strong Sad here...

Yoshi minus nothing 05:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Eating The Cheat ==

I think the line about eating The Cheat comes from [[narrator]] where Strong Bad says "surprised Strong Mad hasn't eaten The Cheat already", or something to that effect. Don't you love how someone can find an answer to a question so fast around this place? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm glad you can! Several "site:" searches in Google failed to do it for me. Of course I was searching for "eat", not "eaten", which explains it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::I have some sort of urge to make a joke about "eat or be eaten", but I can't think of the wording... Hmm... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== How Do You Do It? ==

AdbiViklas, How do you do it? The long essay-like answers to questions others dare not ask. Your likely answer to this question will be, "It come naturally when your older!" But after further speculation I realized your one of the most astoundingly literate and brilliant people I have ever met. Such brain power is often looked over where I live sadly, but I see that you and a lot of people on this wiki are smart and really deserve to be recognized. Thank you for you time, {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, anything happen to you recently? Anyway, what have been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:Mostly looking for jobs. I'll be graduating in a week, and want to go ahead and be teaching by the start of the school year. The problem is there aren't that many schools that have orchestra programs and no teacher. There's one about a 45-minute drive from me, and a couple others about a 3-hour drive from me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== You're in Durham? ==

I'm in Clayton, less than an hour from you. I'll be in Durham on tuesday, going to a Bulls game. Later this summer, I'm moving to Laurinburg, though.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Ha! How about that? Yeah, Bull games are fun. I should go now that I'm done with school (and before I start again on the teaching end of it!). Minor leage baseball is the way to go: you can get in for roughly the cost of a movie, sit close enough that you can actually ''see'' the players as something other than moving dots, and there's always the $1 concessions days or fireworks shows afterward. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, my team is usually the Mudcats. Anyway, Charlotte murdered them, 7-0.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey, I was ''at'' that game! Yeah, my dad works for the [http://www.heraldsun.com Herald-Sun], and had four passes, so he just called me up that afternoon. It was kind of hard to get into the game when we never scored a run, but hey, I had a bratwurst and a bag of peanuts, and that's what really matters. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

::::No kidding? Both my parents work for the [http://www.newsobserver.com N&O].--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heh; I'm just finishing up a year's subscription to them. It would always have seemed a little traitorous before, but since the Herald-Sun was taken over by some outside company and became a lousy place to work, it was okay. Actually, as of this week, my Dad ended his 10 or so years at the paper and is now an editor at, of all things, a magazine for accountants. Yeah, N&O rocks. Sadly, since I'm moving to Fayetteville, I'll be missing it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I'm pretty sure you can still get the N&O in Fayetteville. My Dad grew up there, and that's where my parents met, at the Fayetteville Observer. Oddly enough, Laurinburg is less than an hour from there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Cool; maybe I should look into extending my subscription. I'll actually be renting a sweet, sweet house in Stedman, pop. 600, about 10 minutes' drive east of Fayetteville. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Slowly Going the Way of an MxPx Reference ==

When you said that thing about guestbooks "slowly going the way of the buffalo or MxPx" months ago, I didn't get it. Well, my mom and dad came back from dinner a couple of days ago and my mom had bought me an MxPx disc...guess which one? ;) Now I get it. Man...how come you're cooler than me? LOL.

It's a ''really'' good album, too. "Tomorrow's Another Day" is an awesome song. Oh yeah, and did you ever hear MxPx's cover of "Drum Machine Joy" by Joy Electric? I'm hunting down that EP right now just for that one song! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:LOL; maybe I know about these things because that album came out when I was in high school. I had a friend who was very indie/punk/underground-oriented; he introduced me to Sixpence (which at the time had more the connotation of Whitestripes and less... well, the romantic-comedy-soundtrack staple they became), Five Iron, Joy Electric, Echoing Green, and other much more obscure and long-forgotten quirky groups, while I introduced him to Shostakovich and other kick-butt classical music. In an interesting twist of fate, he's now a drummer in Chapel Hill's healthy indie scene, taking lessons from his childhood idol, Sixpence drummer Dale Baker, who now has a [http://www.newsobserver.com/697/story/454402.html second life as a father and Montessori preschool teacher in my town]. But no, aside from the tracks on ''8-Ball'' samplers, I never heard that much of Joy Electric or MxPx. Five Iron and (yes, I admit) Reliant K are my ska/punk of choice, and I don't really go beyond them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

::Cool! :) By the way, the lead singer of Sixpence is doing a [http://www.leighnash.com/ solo project] which looks pretty interesting. I'll keep you updated on how that's going. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== After a hefty hiatus... ==

I, {{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}, RETURN to the electronically communicating world of '''2007!''' '''Stop'''

My blasted '''Telly 400''' was swiped from the very comfort of my domecile, and upon it's return.. '''Stop'''

I was shocked to realize that the bloody roustabanks had cut off her '''little toe'''!!! '''Stop'''

What was one to do without the comma key!? '''Stop'''

I had no choice but to begin a quest... or.. send The Sneak.. on a worldwide search for my beloved Telly's little toe! '''Stop'''

To my great delight, it was returned and I can once again begin heckling the inhabitants of the '''post-modern Free Country USA!!''' '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== An electronic request ==

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  10:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC) 
 
Dear Sir Viklas STOP 

I wish to inform you that some of our gang members have left the Wiki! STOP 

I would like to ask you for somewhat of a favor if you feel up to it. STOP 

 
Dapperly yours,

Sir Strong Bad
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== Not an active thread... ==

...but nevertheless it is nice to know that somebody still visits my page! And yes, obviously I do too. Dang, I guess I need a little bit of an update, don't I? I did the whole public school teaching thing for a year, and the short version is I found out I'm not a good enough "disciplinarian" to do it well, and really don't think I'd be happy even if I were. Basically I had time to eat and sleep—no, wait, just to sleep—well, not like every night, you know.... So my wikitivity was pretty limited. Since then, I've gone back to teaching one person at a time, and am much happier. I'm even teaching some freshmen at a well-known university that starts with a "D" and rhymes with "puke".... But I'm still pretty much as busy (it's just okay, because it's busy for my own stuff instead of things I'm forced to do), and don't really expect my activity to go much beyond logging on once a Monday update's brouhaha has died down and fixing anything I might notice. But I just want all y'all to know I'm still around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, here's another ex-teacher who left it - my reason is that I had to make administrators happy before I made kids smart. Not the order of operations in my manual. Anyway, glad you are still around and take care of business. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
And another update: On Christmas Eve I got engaged! Sadly, my fiancée is Homestar-illiterate. As you can imagine, that won't last long. Also, Heimstern might be interested to know that I'm thinking about a DMA... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:Congrats, dude! Abdi may be interested to know that... well, I burned out on my PhD and am not pursuing it anymore. Maybe someday, but not now. At least I got out with that M.A. signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger (interesting thing that happens when you graduate from the University of California). So, I'm not in school anymore, which I think is for the best. If you do decide on getting a DMA, I've no doubt you'll have a great experience. Has fun! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hey Abdi! Long time no see! Congratulations on the engagement! I also wish you the best in your DMA (should you choose to pursue it). On my end, my PhD and MS pursuits are also on hold. If you have time, you should swing by [[HRW:IRC|IRC]] sometime! Cheers! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Is my signature too big to fit the Wiki's guidelines? Thanks!

{{User:Evershiner/sig}} 23:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Evershiner: It looks okay to me!
:{{sigbox|User:Evershiner/sig}}
:Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks! I'm guessing its a tad too big, but I don't think that will make a big difference. Hope not! If any of you think I can't get away with it, please let me know! Thanks so much!

== Baby daddy ==

Combolations! How great for you and Mrs. Viklas! (I'm assuming it is she who'll be doing most of the work.) Do you konw the sex? I'm guessing girl. Keep us updated, and don't be such a stranger! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:No, it's just 9 weeks along. At 19 weeks, though, I definitely want to spring for the [[Wikipedia:3D ultrasound|3D ultrasound]]! And yeah, somehow we both have a hunch it's a girl... just a hunch. — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Abdi! What up man? Congratulations on the soon-to-be mini-Abdi! I'm sure he or she will be a very healthy baby! Good to see your doing well. Feel free to swing by IRC if you have free time. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh: It's a girl!! (We'll resist the temptation to name her What's Her Face. I'm not sure the grandparents would approve.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::My guess was right! Combolations! You should name her Elizagerth. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, yeah, Elizabeth Anne! Hm... guess who might have just gotten a new nickname... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, man! Congratulations on the new baby, wife, degree, life, and all the other things you recently updated on your user page. I don't know how seeing you name on the recent Cheat Commandos toon talk page brought a smile to my face. How have you been? I myself haven't edited the wiki in also a long time, so I just lurk around. Glad to see an old friend return to visit once more! (My last year or so can be summed up [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AE.L._Cool&diff=647851&oldid=550294 here], if you're interested.) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude. If March 19th was 9 weeks, that would make this week about 40 weeks. News? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, somebody gets their merit badge in stayin-on-top-of-things! Yes, due date is Friday, and no, she's still hiding! Any day now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::Just went through that myself as my youngest is now just a month old. Congrats. Get plenty of rest! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Update? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::At the hospital now! The baby girl is taking her sweet time. We wanted to avoid induction, but it's start to look like it might be necessary... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::At the hospital and wiki-ing, now that's hardcore! I understand man. Ours was 10 days past-due and we didn't want to induce either since it caused problems the first two times. Hang in there. She knows what to do. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Little Girl was born yesterday by c-section (after 29 hrs of labor) at 8:33 am, and weighed 8 lbs 14 oz! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Looking for advice ==

Hi, I've had this account for a while, but I've never really used it. When I joined, you sent a welcome message on my talk page, so now I thought I'd seek your advice on something.
I had an idea for a page and don't know whether or not it's notable enough: Noses. It seems to be a running gag, what with several toons mentioning them specifically, and many characters lacking them. I don't know how many examples I need for it to be a viable page in it's own right. Any advice on this would help. Thanks --[[User:DoctorWorm|DoctorWorm]] 10:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:Gee, I'd never noticed just how much there ''is'' about noses until I searched for them just now! Still, I think that's covered in [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]], both in the sections on "Strong Bad's Nose" and "Other" (Marzipan's nose job). Nice to see you back around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== "The Web is Dead"—how's HRWiki doing? ==

     (First off, hi everybody! Sorry for being away so much. I've got a baby daughter crawling all over the place now. I checked back in today because I've got a technophilisophilogical musing that seemed at home here.) 
     I was reading this very interesting Wired article arguing that [http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/ff_webrip/all/1 The Web is Dead, Long Live the Internet]—in short, that the open, heterogenous, "broad-not-deep," html-built Web of the 90s has been largely replaced by branded, big-player sites like Facebook and by Internet-delivered apps like Pandora or Netflix that aren't part of the Web proper. My musing here wasn't so much about that premise as about the veracity of one claim in particular. The author cites a statistic, then quotes someone's ''interpretation'' of that statistic:
:"According to Compete, a Web analytics company, the top 10 Web sites accounted for 31 percent of US pageviews in 2001, 40 percent in 2006, and about 75 percent in 2010. 'Big sucks the traffic out of small,' Milner says."
     Is that interpretation true? The implication is that, for instance, Hulu steals traffic from Homestar Runner. After all, in 2003 or so a 3-minute sbemail was about the most entertaining thing to watch on the Internet, but now there's, say, the entire run of Firefly. But the statistic could still be true if the "little" sites' traffic remains the same, but there are just more people on the web, going to Facebook and Hulu (or maybe clicking more often). 
     How has HRWiki's experience compared with this analysis? Of course it's not a rigorous test at all because Homestar himself has a life cycle of popularity that could be unrelated to anything except how many people have seen Trogdor and how many want to see anything more. But the HRWiki seems like a good specimen of the small site that Milner says should be being suctioned out—after all, this was social media before there was really a Web 2.0. Current hiatus aside, what has the trend been over the past 5 or so years? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:40, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, so I haven't had a chance to read the full article but so far these are my opinions:
:*Lately I have had less time to spend on HR, but when new stuff comes out I make it a point to watch it. With more regular content I'd still be paying close attention to the H*R site I think. Right now I just go occassionally.
:*About the article in general: Even though the graph shows that movie streams are overshadowing web traffic, I think that the graph at the top can be a little misleading. Just because these traffic intensive services are consuming a greater percentage of bandwidth doesn't mean that the average user is spending more *time* on these services. Reading a few stories or news articles can take just as much time but consume less than 1% of the bandwidth a youtube video or show takes. Even flash animation is probably a few times less bandwidth-intensive than watching a show that lasts just as long.
:*Other considerations:
:**Youtube, while owned by a big player, helps weaken the stronghold that media companies have on video and to some extent, music. The entertainment in Youtube in general is driven more by user generated content than "big media" content.
:**That article reminds me of [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/quotes Monty Python's] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A "I'm not dead yet"] line. I think this is more then case when one reads the related [http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/ff_webrip_debate/all/1 debate].
:That's my current opinon on the matter. Once I have the chance to sit down and read the entire article and try to relate it to H*R I may be able to give a longer and more informed opinion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:06, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::Hey Abdi, how are you doing? You should also drop by IRC some time :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:25, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
:::Hey! man, almost 3 years since the entry above. I've now got ''two'' daughters, and they're walking instead of crawling. And I'm a couple of months away from being a DOCTOR! (of music. violin.) But yeah, I've never really gotten the IRC thing going. I just stick my nose in here every few weeks in case the next sbemail has happened "when I least expect it"! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
::::Wow! Dual Progeny! Time sure flies! Congratulations! Doctor! ([[Wikipedia:Doctor (Doctor Who)|...who?]]) Ah, well even if not via IRC, as long as you drop by here and there with updates, that's always a good thing. :) So, What's next? Teach somewhere big and expensive? Lead a big, expensive conservatory? Start a rock/techno/classical fuse band? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I think I might have to get [http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f1ed this]. Hopefully the next step is teaching somewhere... ''anywhere.'' Seeing as how I can currently count all the job openings for full-time violin professor positions on one hand, that might take a while. And yes, I would enjoy some kind of jojk/bhangra/bluegrass fusion playing, though I'm more likely to start a baroque ensemble. I've gotten way into the pre-1800 playing on [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DipZ53jm1wM&feature=share&list=PLHC_Geh-W9qhTZHc8IzgDsVfzeI2L0el8 "baroque violin"], and I want to start some kind of small group along those lines. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::: I saw the section title and would have to admit that the wiki is in need of some serious difribillation. More anonymous users than nonymous ones posted edits today! And Iv'e only recently been active, but I'm fairly sure it wasn't this way back in 2005. You're the only sysop that's been on all day! To lighten the spirits I have dampened, I am compelled to post [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WxB1gB6K-2A |this link]. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 00:38, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

== Hello Stranger ==

Hey Abdi,
It's been, like, forever and a half ago! It sounds like you're doing well and surviving this crazy doo-hicky formerly known as 20**. I hope your family is doing well too. Please let everyone whom I've never met know that I say "Hi!". I'm also surviving and distracting myself with this wiki in my spare time :). Cheers! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
:Aye kay arrr!! I lurked in to update the fact that I "have a baby," and she's now 11! Thanks for saying hi, and I hope all is awesome for you too. We're doing crazy things this year: we wound up with two full-time working parents homeschooling two kids. On the whole, I've been really fortunate throughout the whole Covid thing. A few years ago I went to a "coding bootcamp" and got a job in software engineering, which means I've been able to work from home uneventfully while a lot of my fellow professional musicians went nuts trying to draw self-employed unemployment with no concerts to play. :( Cabin fever aside, I'm really appreciative of how good I have it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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AbdiViklas — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 03:21:28 GMT

AbdiViklas: guess it's been a while...

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===A Notice===
On October 9, 2005, the Wiki user formerly known as '''notstrongorbad''' became '''AbdiViklas'''. I'd always kind of wished I had that name, since to the un-H*R-initiated it simply sounded like some foreign guy. Also it's better than my previous hurriedly-selected, defined-by-negation username. Though for the record, I'm still neither strong nor (relatively) bad. If you really want to see notstrongorbad's legacy, you can still see my contributions at [[Special:Contributions/notstrongorbad]], right back to Sept. 2004.
:'''Origin of the name''': If you're still wondering, it's a conflation of "Abdi LaRue" from [[some kinda robot]] and "Viklas" from [[little questions]]. The two appeared together in [[pom pom#Easter Eggs|pom pom]]. Abdi, according to [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]], was one of "10 people who had ever e-mailed them"; in the [[flashback#Commentary Transcript|DVD Commentary to flashback]] they imply that he e-mailed them "a lot."

==The Life and Times of AbdiViklas==
Pardon me while I figure out what I'm doing. You see, I'm looking at this giant, blank text input field, wondering how exactly a user page should be done and what should go in it. The general trend seems to involve talking about:
#your relationship to [http://www.homestarrunner.com Homestar], i.e. faves and when you first started watching,
#your involvement in the wiki, and
#optionally, yourself in real life.

Rebel that I am, I intend to proceed in ''reverse'' order!! Take that, James Dean!

==Behind the Handle: An Investigative Documentary==
     I know the simple data of a person's age and occupation don't define him or her--but they're a convenient place to start. I'm 28, and pretty much everything in my world rotates around the violin. 
     I went to the [http://www.rochester.edu/Eastman Eastman School of Music] in Rochester, NY, for four years—which is a bundle of stories, let me tell you. A ca. 800-student school has its own unique trials and joys. I came out with some very close friends, some unfriends who were always a little too close, and a largely unnecessary understanding of [[Wikipedia:Combinatoriality|hexachordal combinatoriality]]. I wouldn't trade it for the world. 
     After graduating in 2003, I taught violin lessons for awhile, got a master's degree in education, made the mistake of trying to use it to teach public school, and discovered that I was neither particularly good at nor happy teaching public school orchestra. I love one-on-one teaching, though, so I'm currently working on a doctorate in violin performance with the ultimate goal of teaching at a university—you know, with a ''salary''! I'm very interested in Baroque performance in particular, and am working on a dissertation about [[Wikipedia:Carlo_Farina|Carlo Farina's]] ''Capriccio Stravagante'', a 1627 piece in which string instruments "do impressions" of a bunch of other instruments, as well as cats meowing and dogs barking. 
     As a musician, I'm of course passionate about music. My tastes date from different periods of my life; only recently have I entered the quasi-hip, [http://www.pitchforkmedia.com Pitchfork]-informed neoindie aesthetic of the Postal Service and Sufjan Stevens; passions dating from high school include the chamber music of Brahms and Shostakovich and an abiding enthusiasm for [http://www.afrocelts.org/ world music] and [http://www.imota.net/ ethnomusicology]; in college I picked up a perverse liking for the minimalism of [http://www.stevereich.com/ Steve Reich], and for [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm hardcore Baroque performance practice], "the last avant-garde." But for all that, I'm not above top-40, especially with the windows down. 
     While on the topic of interests that verge on obsessions: I am a hard, hard, hardcore fan of the fiction of [http://www.chesterton.org/ G.K. Chesterton]. (My guitar-playing brother and I even named ourselves [http://www.whowasthursday.com Who Was Thursday] after his [http://www.dur.ac.uk/martin.ward/gkc/books/thursday.txt best-known novel].) This has several perks: 1) I get to be wildly enthusiastic about something almost unheard of, and give myself a pat on the shoulder for "eclecticism," but 2) I don't have to suffer through something appropriately obscure to do so; it's FUN!! I tried the same trick in high school with William Blake, but couldn't sustain my interest. Chesterton--man, I can't think of a ''thing'' he's written that isn't fun! 
     My hrwiki activities dropped off substantially in 2007 with the long-delayed introduction of '''romance''' into a lonely geek's life; as much fun as Homestar is, he ain't got nothing on marriage. I thoroughly expect my wiki activity to drop even lower, possibly into negative numbers, this fall with the birth of my first child! You can bet his or her first word will be "Sewiously." Possibly "Holy crap."

==Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction==

     My first introduction to Homestar was in 2003, when I happened to look over my brother's shoulder as he worked his way up the [[Compy 386]] menu (I believe the exact one that was playing was [[current status]].) Realizing, of course, that this was serious, I intended to do it right, and went straight to [[First Time Here?]], after which I proceeded to start with [[some kinda robot]] and work my way ''straight'' up.

==HRWiki: Another History of Another Addiction==

     Finally, the moment of critical mass had arrived: I had seen ''everything'' on the site. Hoping to find something, anything, related, I Googled Homestar and found this wiki. My first response, of course, was, "Those emails had Easter eggs?!!!" which provided several more hours of entertainment. 
     Thus began an era of brief but intense involvement in HRWiki. Or more specifically in the forum; while I adored and depended on the professionalism and thoroughness of the Wiki proper, I didn't feel qualified to actually work on it myself. From September 15 to Halloween of 2004, though, I was on the forum pretty much when I wasn't sleeping or playing for a show. When I started looking for a computer during intermission of that show, I knew I needed help. Seriously, what with school pressures, it was time to cut back, and I simply went cold turkey. (This might explain my sig there still having the, at the time, current "Side effects may include wine, women, and song!") 
     I still used the Wiki every time a new 'toon came out, but the magic of watching those articles take shape right before one's eyes is too great to witness impassively, and the past few times I've gotten involved myself. I figure if I'm always leaving it to the people who know what they're doing, I'll never be one. Accordingly, I'm busy making well-meaning but frequently embarrassing edits that sometimes actually do a little good. Once I even reverted a troll! 
     I don't aspire to become one of the prolific, untiring users who, day by day, make the Wiki the excellent resource and remarkably civil place it is; I really ''oughtn't'' to be spending more than about a day per week here, but I do intend to step up my level of involvement; if I'm going to partake of the benefits of the Wiki, it's my civic duty to contribute to its upkeep as well. I must say I've been encouraged by the responses that met my first efforts: pros like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] and [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] gently corrected my blunders, and I was so warmly welcomed by so many users who insisted on a user page that... well, the epic you've just read was written.

'''Update 11/13/05''': I finally have one of those "things I'm particularly proud of"! I was lucky enough to be on during round two of the [[HRWiki:NSMC vandal|NSMC]] incident; I made 87 reverts during that event, including 70 in 40 minutes. If you need me, I'll be recovering from repetitive motion injury!

==The End.==

Talk:Because, It's Midnite

AbdiViklas — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:45:16 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Champagne and Legos */

Is it just me, or does this song bear more than a superficial sembelence to Judas Priest's Heart of a Lion?

== "Nite" ==
Should it be said that the spelling of "night" as "nite" in the song's title is a reference to [[Wikipedia:KISS (band)|KISS]]? The (rather famous) song is called [[Wikipedia:Rock and Roll All Nite|Rock and Roll All '''Nite''']], and Kiss's music is the same style as [[Limozeen]], so I think that something should be added here, but I don't know (same deal with [[Nite Mamas]]). {{User:The Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith/sig}}03:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:"Nite" is a pretty common (intentional) misspelling of "night", and is probably not a reference to any one thing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Breakin' ___ chains ==

Ok, I definitely hear "my", pronounced more like "meh" as a metalhead might, there. Listen to the "the" in the previous line, then this one. The "th" doesn't happen!

I know Thing and Bazooka disagree, but anyone else hear this? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:I heard "my" at first, but now it seems to alternate between "my" and "the". I can't decide on this one. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:29, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::The [[Because, It's Midnite (karaoke)|DVD]] says "breaking the chains". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Guitar Hero: '80s edition ==
This song was confirmed for Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the '80s:
http://www.destructoid.com/guitar-hero-encore-rock-the-80s-final-track-list-announced-33910.phtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero:_80s_Edition [[User:Doshindude|Doshindude]] 22:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:Awexome — nice find! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Because, It's Canon ==

Should this be moved to [[Because, It's Midnite]] (with a comma), which redirects here? It's spelled that way in ''[[Guitar Hero|Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s]]'' and [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]]. I'll admit that song titles aren't always listed correctly in Guitar Hero (they called [[Wikipedia:Nothin' But a Good Time|Nothin' But a Good Time]] "Ain't Nothin' But a Good Time"), but now that it's appeared in an actual cartoon, it seems intentional. Keep in mind that the Strong Bad Sings CD came out nearly 4 years ago. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:It's also spelled that way on my MP3 player, and I got it directly off the CD. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::That would be the work of the CD ripper program though, which likely downloaded the song titles from a CDDB server somewhere in the Internets. Unfortunately, I don't have the CD box on me, so I can't check how it was punctuated in the liner... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:::"Because, It's Midnite"{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

== Crimson flows down from the wings of a dove. ==

How can we be sure this is blood? I think that it is a play on bird down. Like, furry feathers. I dunno. It is hard to say it is a reference, but hard to deny it as well. What do you say? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 22:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Bring in The Cheat?? ==

Does Limozeen actually sing " Bring in The Cheat, you better cut me some"? I was just wondering. :)
: No. Even if I thought it sounded like "Bring in The Cheat" (I don't), the [[Because, It's Midnite (karaoke)|mock karaoke video]] gives it as "Breaking the chains". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:24, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

== Champagne and Legos ==
I just went to the Lego Movie 2, and the first song during the end credits (by Beck plus somebody) includes the lines "We gotta bring both sides together / like champagne and leather." I thought hmmm, is that a conscious reference? A quick Google of "champagne and leather" yields pretty much just champagne-colored leather swatches. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:13, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
:Heh, I posted here without even looking at the article, I was so sure "Because, It's Midnite" contained the phrase "champagne and leather." Turns out it's "liquid and leather ... champagne glass." I'd like to change my wager from conscious homage to subconscious influence. ...Maybe. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:45, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Because, It's Midnite

AbdiViklas — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:44:51 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Champagne and Legos */ mebbe not

Talk:Because, It's Midnite

AbdiViklas — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 01:13:07 GMT

AbdiViklas: Strong Beck?

Talk:Record Store Day 2018

AbdiViklas — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 01:44:39 GMT

AbdiViklas:

== Visuals ==

As [[User:Catjaz63|Catjaz]] suggested, should this be transcribed as a visuals page? The transcript is a bit hard to read. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:22, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

== Logo? ==
What's that triskelion-style logo at the center of the record? I feel like I really should recognize it as the logo of something—a game, or a musical act, or a company. — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:44, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

User talk:It's dot com

AbdiViklas — Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:55:25 GMT

AbdiViklas: /**/It's dot shirt!

{{User talk:It's dot com/teasers}}
= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Trogdor! </div> =
== Block'd? ==
Hey, I was just wondering why you blocked the anonny 68.39.230.211, when he'd only made three edits? Yes, he plugged the Sandbox with nonsensical links, but couldn't you have talked to him and asked him to stop it? I'm not sure if you did talk to him or not. If you didn't though, then 1 week was probably a little harsh. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 20:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Meh, maybe you're right. I was going primarily from {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=568565 this edit}}, and I thought that the anonny had been reverted three times and was being persistent with adding those links. I'll unblock for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Whoops! Sorry if there was a misunderstanding. I was just fooling around and deleting some spam from the sandbox. The anonny wasn't spamming any other pages than the sandbox. {{User:Super Turtle/sig}} 21:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::No need to fear, Turtle, you acted correctly. Dotty just got a little carried away—which he ''rarely'' does, I might add, he does a bang-up job here and I'm personally proud of what he's accomplished—and made a premature judgement in absence of the facts. He fixed it, and all is well now, all is safe and sound. Sleep peacefully. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Dotty? Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh! ''{suddenly sotto voce}'' No. Thanks as always to Qermaq for putting a bow on what was pretty much already wrapped up. ;) (Although I ''would'' recommend in the future not yelling in summaries if one is not trying to attract attention. But yeah, no big deal now.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Admit it, you kinda love it when I call you Dotty. ;) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Personally, I think Dot Com should be quoting [[Wikipedia:Yakko, Wakko and Dot|Dot Warner]] right about now: "Call me, Dotty and you die." {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::"Yeah, you're probably right." {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::As long as this thread has gone completely off topic, I think I should mention that I always choose the names Yakko, Wakko, and Dot for the computer players when playing Hearts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== Joshua ==

Okay, I know you have a fanstuff talk page. But this is serious. Joshua, the sysop, did something like blackmail. Now the forum is messed up and Super Sam blocked him. Can you please fix this mess? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 14:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:I do believe that what is occurring is simply playful banter which Sam here has taken a bit too seriously. Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Edit conflict: Lies. All lies! Clearly I'm the only one who knows how it all went down. Joshua randomly bans Super Sam on the forum and then Super Sam screws around with the forum skin for revenge. Also I think Supra tried to block Joshua on the wiki but Joshua just unblocked himself. Just a spot of fun, no need to get all grumpy about it. I think it's pretty dang hilarious the way it's going down. {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 05:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Thanks for stopping by, you guys. Thanks for breaking my cow lamp. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== imagemap ==

Whoa, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&curid=3090&diff=570451&oldid=568760 this}} is pretty awesome... great jorb! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks! I installed the feature back during the last upgrade (because the fanstuff kept pestering me to) but hadn't found a good use for it here at the knowledge base until now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== If you notice anything strange... ==

This may just be me being paranoid, but I just thought I'd let you know that MySpace told me I got phished and... I kinda had this thing going where I used the same password for everything... including my email, in which I saved an email to myself detailing how to log in to my account on this website...

So, if anybody does anything funny under my account, I just thought I should let someone with special authorities and privileges and whatnot know about it (although I have since changed my password). I might start a new account just in case, but I'm not sure yet how that'll work out.

Anyway... now you know. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 18:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Don't start a new account. Changing your password should be adequate. By the way, to add a section to a talk page, just click the little plus (+) next to the edit button. It will give you a place to enter the thread header and format it automatically. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::Jolly good. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 18:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Just the same, I think I'd like my username changed. (I've been thinking of ditching LuxAcerbus for a while now.) Sysops can do that, right? {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 19:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Bureaucrats can, yes. See [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for the help, my good man. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 23:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== Forum Redirect ==

Since the HRWiki forum is down, alot of the regular users have taken refuge to http://www.inversetiger.com/forum/ . However, pretty much the only way for people on the forum to communicate to each other now is by email. Since barely anyone shows their email address, the last resort option is to communicate by editing your sig. Even then, most people don't go looking through a locked forum looking at people's sigs(which is where I found the link). The result: Only the regular users found link. So, I figured that it would be best if you posted some sort of link on the front page of the Wiki or something so people can find it.
-strongfan

== Fanstuff Purge: Wiki User Emails ==

There are currently a few Wiki User Emails on the list of fanstuffs to be saved, and it's been decided that this would be a great chance to get them over to the Wiki User Wiki. My question is whether it would be easier to use whatever fancy method you're using to transfer them across or whether it would be easier to just do it manually. 
Cheers, {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 19:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if this is the specific fancy way that DC's going to use, but if you want to transfer stuff, then the easy way is to go to [[HRFWiki:Special:Export]], and put in all the page-names (one per line), and mash go. That'll give you an XML file that you can feed into Special:Import on WUW (you'll need to be sysop to use Special:Import, but Special:Export can usually be run by anyone). As well as being able to copy lots of pages in one hit, you can also (if you want) include each page's history, and all the templates they use. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::Yep, I concur with Phlip's suggestion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Alrighty, thanks for that. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 14:53, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Looking at [[Talk:Main_Page#Read-Only_Forum|this]], it appears a lot of the forum users have been giving you grief over the locked forum. I just would like to pause for a moment and say thank you. You have dealt with this matter professionally, and I would like to say that in your shoes, I would have done the same thing. Thank you for managing this problem well. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for your comments. It remains to be seen whether splitting off the off-topic discussion from the H*R threads will be a good thing, but I'm hoping for the best. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Greetings!! ==

Hi. I'm having trouble on my userpage. I have three images. I'd like to have one image (Homsar) in the center between the other two of the Cheat Commando's. How can I do this? See my userpage in my signature. --[[User:O98-111-114-113|98.111.114.133]] 17:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Check out our various local help pages and the user's guide (see the sidebar under navigation and external links). Hope that helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you for the name change! --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 21:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

==STUFF Decommissioned?==
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com&curid=5477&diff=581940&oldid=581729 When did this happen?] --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 20:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:STUFF#Decommission We've been talking about it for the last coupla months.] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::I gotta start paying more attention to important things like that... --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 20:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Fanstuff wiki ==
Look, for some reson, my computer doesn't show the link. so can you help me out? [[Special:Contributions/68.74.220.137|68.74.220.137]] 10:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:The address is [[HRFWiki:|fanstuff.hrwiki.org]], same as it's ever been. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Ummm... there's no more bar there. it completed. But nothing happened. It's just... the signup screen. 
Also, I sent the email, but I didn't get a reply. {{User:The thing/sig}} 12:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, you sent two emails. I only said you'd get a reply if it was necessary, and in your case it's not. The status bars only indicate that a certain step is done out of many. You'll know that the wiki is back up when it looks like a MediaWiki wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:46, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, also, can you not do the purge in the next 3 hours? I have to go somewhere. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Deal. Before I do it, I'll be sure to ask you if it's okay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I already sent you my email. Should I post my new username on [[HRWiki:Changing username]], or just wait? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 00:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:Sending the email is enough. I'll change usernames based on that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
So when will the new wiki be up?--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 18:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

When will the updates bar be back? -[[User:TheStick|TheStick]]

Could you put the MediaWiki software on the fanstuff wiki and remove the signup page? {{User:Dagoth/sig}}

Hey, Dot com, it has been like 3 weeks now. What gives? -[[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 19:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

:Seriously, you guys. Stop pestering Dot com. He's doing his best, and he's working very hard for you. Yes, for '''you'''. Give him some credit. It's dot com is spending hours and hours (literally) of his spare time fixing the fanstuff wiki for you, and the last thing he needs (I'm sure of it) is someone poking him with a stick continuously, asking if he's done yet. So sit back and relax, give him some space, and when he's finally done, thank him very much for it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so, how long has it been now? A month? Two? {{User:The thing/sig}} 01:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Two and a half X_X {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 18:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:I've lost hope. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::Keep hope alive. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

==Name Change==
Could you change my user name to Raiku? Its going to be my last username ever. I am going to keep it. {{User:Raiku/sig}}

==Name Change, Too==
I meant to name myself hremail24, not Hremail 22. Can you fix this malfunction, private?

:You know, this is kind of like calling up a librarian at home asking them to renew a book for you. There are [[HRWiki:Changing Username|better ways]]. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 14:17, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

== Ops in #hrwiki-fanstuff ==

I hate to whine and complain like this, but please give someone ops in #hrwiki-fanstuff. It is impossible to control the channel. It doesn't have to be a fanstuff sysop, just someone easily accessible. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hey man, we seem to have a few trolls in #hrwiki-fanstuff, Tom's not responding, you're not on, and we really need ops, so whenever you see this, please give someone ops. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== Change Username ==

Uh, Dot Com, some people [[HRWiki:Changing username|here]] have been hanging for months with no one changing their user name. Could you get those people up to date for me? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 18:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:Please, Dot Com? I'm desperate.. Please... {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Please? I'm sorry for bothering you... {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Holy crap, dude. Why are you editing my talk page over and over? See Green Helmet's remarks a couple of threads up. Besides, you're already on (at least) your second username. I'm not really planning on changing it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::How do you know that? I haven't ever actually ''changed'' my user name... {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Of course you have. [[Special:Contributions/Miketigershark|This]] is you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorry. Very sorry. I admit it, MichaelXX2 is a sockpuppet. But when I signed up, I took a vow to change my ways about vandalism. I haven't done any vandalism for months, and I'm sorry for bothering you. I won't ever change my username again, please bail me out this one time... I will fully understand if you don't want to though. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hey, Dot Com, keep up the good work ;) {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 02:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== Can you do me a fanstuff-related favor? ==

I need some files from the old HRFWiki, and I was wondering if you might be able to get them. It's okay if you can't do this, or don't want to, though, it would just make some things easier if you would.--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 02:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Why don't you email me your specific request and we'll go from there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::K.--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 02:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Did you ever get my email? I really want my files.--[[Special:Contributions/24.34.11.239|24.34.11.239]] 18:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)(Kirbychu)
::::I did get your email. I haven't forgotten this request, and it's on the to-do list. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Where's the forum? ==

What happened to the forum? What's wrong with the forum? Answer me on my talk page. [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 17:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's down right now. It will be back rrll rrll soon. I answered here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do you mean it this time? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I'll give you one thing. You're definitely consistent. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

== Fanstuff wiki ==

Would you happen to know when the purge will be over? Just wonder. '''[[User:Gavino/redirect|¡Él]][[User talk:Gavino|Gavino!]]''' 01:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, I ''do'' wonder, let me tell you. If I had to guess based on the (depending on your point of view) clever or smart-aleck front page currently at [[HRFWiki:|fanstuff.hrwiki.org]], I'd say sometime before or after TBC release Stinkoman Level 10. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::Alright, seriously, what's taking so dang long? {{User:The thing/sig}} 18:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:::This has been explained in other places. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== thanks man. ==

What was that crap-for-brains doing? Being a freakin' vandal and everything? I owe it all to ya for helping my user page stay cool. Did you block him? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:No prob, Bob. That guy shows up from time to time to do what he did. It doesn't usually take long to clean up. Yes, I did block him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Transcribing Permission ==

Sorry to interrupt, but I was just wondering if I could transcribe the toons at the [[wikia:c:weeblsstuff|Weeblpedia]] similar to the way we transcribe toons here. {{User:HRjcm/sig}} 02:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
:Uh, yes? I don't really have any jurisdiction to give you permission. Our style is nothing special, and I suppose it could be used for any number of things. It may or may not be relevant, but some authors of works of fiction don't like their works being transcribed, so watch out for that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
::OK, thanks. {{User:HRjcm/sig}} 22:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
== Personal image templates ==
It's Dot Com, Your the [[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]] I trust the most, and the only one I know actually. [[Template_talk:personal-image-abandoned|This page]] is in desperate need of an admin to look over the new suggested designs of the personal image templates, and to add to the talk page if you agree that we should/can change the personal image templates to the HR related ones, or not. Please do look into this. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 17:07, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:That discussion is over two years old. As I said when it was current, I don't think we should change the templates, especially given I'm the one who made the versions we're using now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sig ==

Do you want a sig? If so, what do you want on it? {{User:Sylar/sig}} 03:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:I already have one. It's right here: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
::I mean like colored and stuff. The sig templates. {{User:Sylar/sig}} 03:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I know what you meant. I've been here nearly four years. If I wanted a fancy signature, I'd probably have one by now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
::::And, I know this topic is a month old, but it may be one of the best signatures on the wiki. I mean, it did start the &mdash craze. Did it? {{User:HRjcm/sig}} 18:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Winter Background ==

Could you please add <pre> body {
font-size: 10px;
font-family: verdana, geneva, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
background: #EBEBEB url(skins/monobook/headbg-snow.png) 0 0 repeat-x;
}
</pre> to MediaWiki:Monobook.css? Thanks. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 06:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Oh right. I had a nagging feeling I had forgotten something. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

== HRFWiki:Template:Main Page/Fanstuff ==

What did that template look like? I created a temporary HRFWiki and need the Main Page/Fanstuff template to look like it did at the real HRFWiki. The URL for the temporary HRFWiki is http://homestar.referata.com. I also need a dump of all the templates and MediaWiki messages for it. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 00:19, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not going to provide that, sorry. You need to use a different logo and stop hotlinking our images. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::I removed your logo and images. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 01:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm still seeing the logo there. Yes, i cleared my cache. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, it was gone, but it looks like it's back. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 15:14, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Your logo and images are gone for reals this time. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 23:00, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Who's online ==

You guys need "WhosOnline", a special that can tell you whos online and what they are looking at. Can be used to quickly see when there is going to be spam. {{User:Red And Black/siggy}} 18:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

From my old fanstuff talk page:
<blockquote>
[http://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Recentchanges Check this out]

It's the recent changes page of The Mario Wiki. I made an account there, and I realized on the recent changes page, there's a little section for who's currently logged in. I figured I'd ask you if we could possibly make this a feature here. It would make things alot easier when trying to contact users and such. --{{User:TheDenzel/sig}} 18:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:[...] This would indeed be interesting, but people shouldn't have their identities exposed just because they're browsing. Part of what a lot of people like about reading a wiki is that you're not publicly logged unless you edit. And there's the thing: one should be able to tell who's online well enough just by looking at the recent changes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
</blockquote>
Or do you mean something that only sysops and/or developers could see? If so, we already have enough behind-the-scenes access to handle our relatively minor spam load. Thanks though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:I mean that only registered users can see, and from my knowledge of it, noone EVER uses it but me, for some reason on the other wikis I go on. It would just help alot. {{User:Red And Black/siggy}} 19:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::Well, like I said last year, I don't think that information should be available to just anyone who happens to have an account. There's almost no reason (if any) to look over someone's shoulder if they're merely reading articles. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:::However, it can help if they are about to troll. {{User:Red And Black/siggy}} 20:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It would be nearly impossible to tell whether someone was about to vandalize based solely on what they're looking at. Even if it were possible, the vigilance required to make the extension effective would be prohibitively time-consuming. Considering the low volume of bad-faith edits we have to deal with and how easy it is to clean up pages after the fact, we simply don't have the need for an early-warning system. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hey, something to bring your attention to ==

Adventure Classic Gaming recently had an interview with the Brothers Chaps and the designers of their episodic adventure game series at TellTale, not sure how you usually feature new content related to the brothers chaps but figured you might not have seen it yet, it isn't on the interviews page at least: [http://www.adventureclassicgaming.com/index.php/site/interviews/439/] -MarkN
:It's actually on the SBCG4AP page, under Promotional Media. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 23:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for deleting my fair-use-defying MacOrWinFinal.png image, Dot Com! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 18:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Sensitive to Bees ==

Thanks so much for agreeeing with my statements, It's dot com! I knew someone would believe me if I posted the edit there! The second video was just my proof to make sure there wouldn't be that much of a conflict, but if that's what made you believe me, I'm glad I made it! So thanks again!

-MarioMaster2008

P.S. Speaking of which, why did you think I went overboard trying to prove my point with the video?
:I wouldn't say so. People have gone [[Template talk:commentary|crazy before]] proving their point. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 06:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::Maybe so, but if you look on the [[Talk:Sensitive To Bees|talk page]] for the article in question, you'll see that It's Dot Com himself said I surpassed him in levels of proving my point. -MarioMaster2008
:::The above link to that template talk page has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I'm referring to people posting evidence they gather to try and answer a question of fact regarding something in one of the toons. I'm not saying I don't go overboard (my illustrations on [[Talk:car#Homestar's spinning buzzer|Homestar's spinning buzzer]] are just the latest example), but I think making a whole YouTube video trumps anything I've done. So far. By the way, MarioMaster, to sign your name, just type four tildes, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, and the system will automatically insert your name and a timestamp, like this: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. I was wondering how to do that. Let's try it now. [[User:MarioMaster2008|MarioMaster2008]] 17:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

== History category ==

Sorry, I didn't know we had a place to keep stuff around for historical reasons. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.37|132.183.138.37]] 21:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, if something was widely used in the past, but isn't anymore, then we put it in the [[:Category:HRWiki History|history category]] rather than delete it completely. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Sandbox user subpages ==
Would it be possible for me to create a mini sand box as a sub page? {{User:Kid2255/sig}} 22:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:See [[HRWiki talk:User space#Sandboxes?]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Redirect pages ==

Hi there It's Dot Com, hope you don't mind me asking something. I was trying to create a redirect from [[Coach Z's 110 percent]] to [[Coach Z's 110%]], but it doesn't work as an actual redirect. How do you create a redirect page, and how is it different from a normal one? Thanks! {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 01:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:Note, it won't act like a redirect in the preview, you have to save it. And the syntax is "<nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Pagename]]</nowiki>". And this is probably the wrong place to ask this kind of question. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, so that's what happened, I only saw it in the preview. Sorry for bothering you, is there a better place for questions like that? {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 01:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You can ask me on my talk page, i don't get annoyed by technical questions, but the best place is probably the talk for one of the help pages or something... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::[[HRWiki talk:FAQ]] is actually the place we've set aside for questions. If a discussion needs to be on a more specific page, it can be referred to the other page from there. And it is true that a question on any central or highly visible public talk page will likely be answered. Similarly, while I'm not encouraging you to post on any one user's talk page, you could do worse than this one. It's watched by a good number of users, and I have a [[#The System Is Down|whole section]] of the page devoted to technical issues. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

== Blanking the sandbox ==
{{userboxtop|}}
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCE6FF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=  | msg=[[User:Record307|Record307]] enjoys '''blanking the [[sandbox]]'''.}}
|}
Hey, um, are you trying to make fun of me?
That userbox, Um, NOT FREAKIN FUNNY!
If you need to tell me something, tell me in my Talk page.--[[User:Record307|Record307]]
:Strictly speaking, yes, I am making fun, but I'm not trying to be mean. I just think it's funny that you've blanked the sandbox {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Record307&namespace=4&year=2009&month=1 once a day every day for the past 11 days}} (except the 9th (when you did it twice) and the 15th (which you missed)). I myself blank the sandbox on occasion, but not like clockwork. Generally speaking, having a blank or non-blank sandbox makes no difference, and so I find it interesting that you've kept it up. But I'm just teasing, not trying to be offensive. :) (By the way, if it's not obvious, the icon there is a blank sandbox.) Cheers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. Y'know what? I'm gonna use the userbox you made. Can you do me a favor? My userboxes scroll But they mess up my page. I want it to blend in with the pictures on my userpage. Can you do that for me? Thanks!---[[User:Record307|Record307]]
:I adjusted the width of your email box. Did that fix what you were talking about? Oh, by the way, to sign your name, just type four tildes, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, and the system will automatically insert your name and a timestamp, like this: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much! See ya round![[User:Record307|Record307]] 15:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Forum account disabled ==

Why can't I log on? --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 15:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:I deactivated your account at the request of a lot of people. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Hey It's dot com, how's it hanging? ==

I've been good, nearly done hiugh school, which leaves me to my first question:

I'll be leaving Homestar Runner wiki, temporarily, for school reasons. Anyhow, can someone you tell me where i can find a banner template to place on my wikipage saying I'll be off wiki for a while?

Thanks a bunch.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, Nikolce, long time no hear from. We don't really have a template for that kind of thing, but you can make a banner by taking some code from one of our other templates and putting it on your page. Then you can update the message to suit whatever you need it to say. I'm curious how long a while is (your last edit was last April, which is what I'd consider a while). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, April, man school's been taking my time man. As well as school, sometimes my internets gets capped, meaning it becomes slow, and when it comes to wikis, they don;t load up.

Thanks for the help again.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 12:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== MediaWiki 1.14 ==

According to the Wikitech mailing list, MediaWiki 1.14 has been released ([http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2009-February/041636.html link]). Just notifying you. :) {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 20:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks. We're on the [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2009-February/000084.html MediaWiki announce list], so we already knew that. Based on something Tim said, we may have even been responsible for prodding them into releasing the final version after the release candidate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for Your Assistance ==

Thanks for your assistance in the most recent vandal attack. Been a while since the last one, eh? Well, we all appreciate your ability to hide those edits from RC, as no one wants to read that. Also, good job getting the one everyone else overlooked--myself included. We really couldn't keep this place going without you. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, thanks for the thanks, and you're welcome! I'm glad I could chip in with those things that only developers can do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== I'm confused... ==
Hey Its Dot Com, can you tell me what happened to the fanstuff? I left a long time ago but when I tried to come back everything was different.

== Invisible arms ==

When you said it was NOT better... I'm not gonna lie to you. It '''''IS''''' better. PLEASE, don't block me! --{{User:The 386/sig}} 00:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Block you? You're wrong though. We consistently treat scenes as though the characters have normal arms and/or fingers (regardless of what's "really" the case) and are directly manipulating objects. In other words, we say that Homestar is picking up an object (and don't worry about how), not that it mysteriously starts floating. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:37, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::I just DON'T want my edits reverted. The INVISIBLE arms show that these objects float in mid-air. I don't mean to sound rude. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 00:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry, but that's not our standard. We know that the objects appear to be floating, but that's not how we describe them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:37, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== When will the fanstuff wiki be back? ==
Hey Dot Com, when will the fanstuff wiki be back? {{User:Raiku/sig}} 04:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, the fanstuff was a significant drain on our resources, and with funds being so tight we just can't justify it anymore. I'm afraid it will never be back. Sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== My new email address ==

I recently got a Gmail account. Now my new email address is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com. So, could you change my email address on the forum to that. PS:If anyone emails me, I will send Barney to attack you. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 12:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:I will only change your forum address to whatever's in your preferences here on the wiki, and the address above (at least, what it was before) isn't it. If you don't want people to email you, don't post it here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yeah. I forgot to do about that. I changed it. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 14:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== Name change three ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">
<div>subject: name change</div>
Dear Mr. Com,
I understand that you must envisage me as a person who takes the Homestar Runner Wiki for granted, as I have created several different users. I am writing here to plead my case to change my username.
When I first created the account Jagger88, I looked at my talk page, and deleted the Welcome comment straight away. I therefore did not look at any information I may have needed. Therefore, I had no idea there was a way to change your username, and therefore created new users whenever I wanted to have a different username. If you look at recent changes, you will see that I have not used Do-Nots, Open Source Greg, or the new paper rox since you gave me a warning (the user Hremails was my brothers before he got confused with all the computer language). 
Please consider my application to change my name to TNDY, as I believe in recent times I have proved myself useful to this wiki. (I did like, the whole transcript for [[Pistols for Pandas]], discovered [[Career Day]], and the [[Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD]], aswell as along the way improving my understanding of this wiki. 
I'm only a teenager, and I actually think this wiki has what it takes to teach me some respect and responsibility. 
Sincerely, {{User:Jagger88/sig}} 09:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
</blockquote>
:This doesn't belong on my talk page. Please refer to [[HRWiki:Changing username]] for replies. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

{|
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=[[Image:Iron cup of Brunswick Stew.jpg|43px]]|msg=This user is being rewarded with an iron cup of Brunswick Stew as a thank you for accepting my user name change}}
|}

Thank you. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 06:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== Free Country Mountain Range files ==

Not to be naggy but I'm kinda wondering what's going on with ny Free Country Mountain Range files, because you said you'd put it on your to-do list about 5 months ago.--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 02:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
:Yup, exactly 199 days ago. I put it on my to-do list. It's still there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:08, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
::That's one big to-do list.--{{User:Kirbychu HR'D/sig}} 03:12, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

== What the pfargtl? ==

This is the edit summary from Recent Changes for one of your recent edits:

(diff) (hist) . . Talk:Main Page‎; 15:51 . . (-673) . . It's dot com (Talk | contribs) (look at the date on that reply (it was a joke))

But in the recent changes IRC it looked like:

<+HRWikiRC> [[Talk:Main Page]] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=648202&oldid=648199&rcid=607347] * It's dot com * (-673) feel free to discuss that somewhere else (off-site)

The link provided by the RC bot goes to the same diff provided on the RC page. What the pfargtl is going on? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:I have the ability to [[Special:Editeditsummary|edit edit summaries]]. Occasionally I think of something better to say. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

== Hello again ==

Hey. First of all, I'm sorry for how conceited, passive-aggressive and rude I behaved here a few years ago. Secondly, the Wiki is in ship shape! I'm very impressed with the progress you guys have made while I was away. Great work! I'll be contributing regularly again, but this time without unfairly scrutinizing you or anyone else here. Carpe diem! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 23:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== You're now my friend. ==

Any fan of Seinfeld is my friend. {{User:Ugozima/sig}} 06:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Possible Trolls/Vandals ==

Hello, sorry if this is in the wrong place, I didn't know where to put it.

On the recent changes page, there seems to be a large number of accounts being made. normally if it was 1 or 2 I wouldn't notice, but there's been 8 in the last 5 minutes. I think it might be a troll or vandal. {{User:BubbleRevolution/sig}} 01:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, this is the wrong place to put this, but these accounts are all being made by the same person, because they all are common names (all having something to do with the Eragon series, I have read the books), except maybe [[User:Sbe-Mail Checker Dan]], he's probably a coincidence. Also, you probably shouldn't use the word TROLL or VANDAL yet, since the user(s) haven't made any edits yet, and might not know about the sockpuppet rule. Can someone go talk to him/her? I'm not sure how to do this. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 01:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Would like Autocolumn extension for my own wiki ==

Hello Homestar, i would like to implement the Autocolumn and AutoPipe/AutoRedirect extensions on my own wiki, are these available? --[[User:Kevin danko|Kevin danko]] 16:09, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, I've never released them. I'd like to someday, but they need to be cleaned up a bit first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Threats ==

I'm sorry if this offends anybody but there was a shocking post on [http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Heimstern_L%C3%A4ufer#Question_about_my_banning.3F this thread]. Is the threat empty, like Hiemstern said? I just felt the need to bring that to your attention -I'd rather not post my username 22:08, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:Well, [[User:Espemon333|Espemon333]] ([[User talk:Espemon333|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Espemon333|contribs]]), I'm quite aware of that whole situation, and have been for a while. The other sysops/forum mods and I stay in touch pretty well. Thanks for the heads up, but you don't need to worry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
::OK. Don't let Heimstern know I posted this. {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 23:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Actually, I already know. I see pretty much every edit on this wiki because I check [[Special:Recent changes|recent changes]] a lot. In fact, I think I saw this post before Dot com did. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== The Fanstuff Wiki! ==

How long has it been now? If your not going to do anything with it, just delete it and it's all over with. It gets my hopes up every time I go there and while it's loading the title says "Main Page" {{User:The thing/sig}} 01:15, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:What is wrong with fanstuff? Totally outta the loop, {{User:Espemon333/sig}}

== My Weight in Pencil Shavings ==

How much does a page on the wiki usually cost? {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 22:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:Um, I don't know what that means... And you still smell like pea soooup! By the way, the reason you triple post is that my page is long and so it takes a bit of time to load and you get impatient and hit "Save page" three times. Only hit it once. It heard you the first time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::The reason we are having the fundraiser... the pages cost money... right..? {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 23:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::In a sense, yes, I guess. The [[Wikipedia:Web page|pages]] are stored in a [[Wikipedia:Database|database]], which is located on a [[Wikipedia:Hard disk drive|hard drive]], which is part of a [[Wikipedia:Web server|server]], and it takes money for us to be [[Wikipedia:Web hosting service|hosted]] on that server. See our [[HRWiki:Donations|donations]] and [[Special:Ledger|ledger]] pages if you want specific information. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== A Probably <s>Bad</s> Good Idea ==

We all know about the decomisionning of STUFF, which I do support, but I reviewed your new version of the STUFF template and I loved it. I think we need to incorperate that template INTO the talk page. It looked great, and I liked how it condenses the entire discussion into the smallest portions. I really think we should get it into the talk page. {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 03:09, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:The "new" version of the STUFF template is what we used for years, and what we decommissioned. We decided to stop using the STUFF format in favor of regular discussions. We don't have any plans to reincorporate it at this time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== MythBusters ==

I love MythBusters. :D --[[User:Ms. 1-Up Pie|Ms. 1-Up Pie]] 01:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, thanks for reading my user page! Or for spouting weird non sequiturs, whichever one fits. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Brown and gray balloons ==

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3427/3275461929_ae4815786d.jpg

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I knew what that was going to be before I even opened my talk page, based solely on the edit summary. You know what's amazing? My brother made that exact sign and hung it behind my desk at work on Friday. It's still there right now! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
::Happy birthday, DC. My you never get ink poisoning. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 07:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:::have a nice last 7 minutes of <s>decemberween</s> birthday, It's dot com. (or it might be more time than i think it is, depending on which time zone you're in) and may you have a wonderful year. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

==Another Fanstuff Thing==
I don't mean to kill the already several dead horses about this topic, but I don't think the sysops are going to fix the Fanstuff Wiki. I know you have a life, n'stuff, but we want some stuff done. I don't care if you do half a page a day. Any progress is good progress. And if your schedule doesn't allow for any Fan-Wiki work, then get people that will accualy work. The regular people word be WAY more willing, and more faster, to fix these unfinished pages. In short, I hope you take some time to work on the Fan-Wiki, get better workers, and always, ALWAYS edit blank pages. [[User:Anonomous]]

== Possible spammer ==

Don't know if this is the right place to say this, please correct me if not. I have reason to believe that Drhuldaclark142 is a spammer, judging by the fact that this person has been here for a few days and that their only contribution is to their own userpage as a link to some sort of online store. [[User:McArbys|The McArby!]] 01:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
: You're right. We've been getting far too much spam lately; guess it's no surprise some would slip through the cracks. Spam... [[DELETED!!]] *bzzt!* --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

== Please block this IP ==
Can you please block an IP for me? I know this IP. It's my evil friend. He found out I had a HRwiki and will stop at nothing to ruin it.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
:Hi, Record. Has this IP actually vandalized? We don't block IPs preemptively usually (in fact, I'm not aware that we do so ever). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. Just today he blanked a section of my userpage. Check the history. "ZaneHiturugi" is his internet name.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I've given the IP a block warning; if he does it again, it'd be appropriate to block. For now, though, we'll probably just leave it as is. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:43, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Alright, that's cool. Thanks!--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:44, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

== Why do you still do this? ==
Why do you still do this? You're managing the same website you did three years ago, and still for no reason. You're thirty three years old! You don't think that maybe it's time to start a family? To take care of your wife or something? Take a page from me and stop going here. The "friends" you make won't miss you, they'll just drown their sorrows in computer code. Please, just stop this whole thing.
:It's a hobby and I like it. In the last five (not three) years I've learned a lot of things about teamwork, management, critical thinking, and software development. Things I can carry over into my professional life. Plus it's fun, interesting, and challenging, I still think Homestar Runner is funny, and there's nothing what says you can't have a hobby and still pursue other things like work and family. By the way, if you're going to break your streak of not "going here" just to insult me, at least have the stones to sign your real name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:04, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for the purge! ==

Hi Dot Com. I was just passing by to tell you that I, for one, am most delighted about how the purge took over 500 days. Without the purge, I'd still be dwelling on the Fanstuff Wiki with not much else to do, but since its absence, I've pursued other hobbies and personal projects, which most probably wouldn't have happened if the Fanstuff Wiki was still around. For example, since it went down with the purge, I've started to learn more about programming and website creation, not to mention polishing up my English skills and discovering my humble abilities as an amateur musician. That's really all I have to say. And again, thank you. No this contains no sarcasm whatsoever. -[[User:20eric06|20eric06]] 02:07, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

== hey you admin that dumb fanstuff thing right ==
If so, could you put away that robots.txt thing for a bit so I might be able to archive.org it for my old stuff, if possible? Just wondering.

==help==
Hey, it's Don't say jorb 101 here. As you can see by the I.P. adress, I'm not logged in. It seems that no matter how many times I type in my password and username, I can't log in, and have somehow locked myself out of my account. Please help me! (oh, and my I.P. Is different because I'm using my iPod touch.) [[Special:Contributions/198.53.214.106|198.53.214.106]] 04:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

:Nevermind, it works now:) [[User:Don't say jorb 101|{{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}]] 00:47, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

== Duplicate user problem ==

Hey. Looking at the history of [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mr._Arrow%27d_Homsar&action=history this guy], it seems him and [[User:Homsar Jean]] are one and the same. Since this is not a sockpuppet problem, what do you think should be done? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 04:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:Probably nothing. He seems to have made one account and used it only briefly before switching to a new one. Yes, it would be better to have asked for a name change instead, but what's done is done. Used to I might merge the accounts, but it's a bit of a hassle and I don't think I'll bother unless he specifically requests it. As long as he doesn't use both accounts, it's not a big deal. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::Ok. I just noticed because I went over the TBD and saw he tagged his own page for deletion. I just removed the template and left it blank. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 05:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== Forum crashed ==

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I currently cannot use E-Mail, so I put it here. Thought you should look into it since you're an admin. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 02:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads up. I think I've got it fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

== Could you help with my account? ==

Sorry to bug you! During the Fanstuff purge I asked to change my username from Chituze to Happy: now it says I've got the wrong password, and I don't receive the verification email. I'm absolutely positive I've been typing the password right, because I use the same one everywhere. Are you able to find my password for me, or maybe allocate happypants3@hotmail to the account? Thanks so much in advance!
 Also I'm so scared about how professional your talk page is, I hope I've put this in the right place. - [[Special:Contributions/222.154.8.224|222.154.8.224]]
:Well, that's a bit of bad luck, I'm afraid. The reason the password won't work is that someone else already has the name [[User:Happy|Happy]]. (The fanstuff and the knowledge base now share the same user list, and the Happy account was created here back in 2004.) You'll need to create a new account with a different name. You can choose Chituze or HappyPants or something else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::OH, RIGHT. Dang, somehow that never crossed my mind. Now I feel bad because I've sent about 4 verification emails to them.
::(Ack, what if during the purge I got an email about this, but it went to junk? Whoops, sorry, just thinking aloud here.) Thanks for your help! - [[Special:Contributions/222.154.16.62|222.154.16.62]]

== Regarding [[Talk:Scroll_Button_Songs#Mirror_Glitch|Mirror Glitch]] ==

Hey, man. I just went over the articles for cleanup and saw [[Scroll Button Songs]]. The article looked OK and I went over the last few talk page posts to see why it should be cleaned up. I saw no problem, and I was just about to remove the template, when I decided to dig in the history a little and came across [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Scroll_Button_Songs&diff=prev&oldid=645922 this edit] from almost exactly a year ago. That discussion started two and a half years ago, and the article has been in "cleanup" ever since. Is that REALLY such a big of an issue? I mean, it looks like some technical thing to fix that should not bother the casual reader. I didn't even notice the email list on the mirrors after I read the talk page. I just listened to the songs. What I'm suggesting is to remove the template and you'll just fix whatever you need to fix whenever you got the time, since the article itself is fine. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 06:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure why you're asking me. I already {{p|l={{fullurl:Scroll Button Songs|diff=559384&oldid=559344}} removed that cleanup template}} once, and I didn't make the edit you linked to. The same user who made that edit is the one who {{p|l={{fullurl:Scroll Button Songs|diff=624822&oldid=606972}} put the template back}}. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:33, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::Ah! I see I hadn't dug deep enough in the history... I contacted you because you're involved in that talk page discussion. Oh well. I agree with you - There shouldn't be a template there. I'm removing it. Thanks for sorting this up :). {{User:Elcool/sig}} 18:48, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Little questions ==

Hey, DC. I was wondering:
# When did you first use H*R?
# What sites, apart from the Wiki, the Wiki's forum, and the Fanstuff Wiki, are you a member on?
# What do you do for a living?
{{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:See my user page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:34, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion of 64.251.57.195's user-talk ==

Just wondering, can't you just discuss before going and removing something so suddenly? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 18:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:I had to remove it quickly before he saw it. Assuming the anonny was editing in good faith (and there's nothing to indicate he wasn't), then implying that he should be blocked was quite rude. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== #hrwiki-fanstuff ==

why did you set +m on it

seriously that's uncalled for -[[User:20eric06|20eric06]] 17:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:Uh, because it's closed now? I thought that would be obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:47, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::it wasn't really, and there's still more people in there than on #hrwiki -[[User:20eric06|20eric06]] 18:50, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:::well, regularly. -[[User:20eric06|20eric06]] 18:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not like you can't still talk to each other. I didn't close the Internet, or even IRC. If you want to have your own channel, then make it, post the location on your forum, ''and then go there''. Anything with the "hrwiki" name on it means one of our admins has to keep an eye on it. We don't want to do that anymore. Closing <code>#hrwiki-fanstuff</code> solves the problem. It's win-win in the long run. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:11, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

well, you caught my attention with the chat on Super Sam's talk on the fanstuff wiki, and i didn't get to put my idea in before you locked it out. i figure this is as relevant a topic as any. if the sysops and moderators are the problem, why don't you get some new ones over there? i don't think this is worth closing that wiki. I'm sure there's a lot of people that would be capable enough to run that wiki that update frequently enough to care. I'm not saying it's me, i haven't done anything on either for over a year besides now, but I'm sure there are people that care about the fanstuff wiki as much as you care about the knowledge base. and i don't believe either site deserves to die just for lack of usage after the purge. a lot of the users just said "screw it" after waiting so long for it to come back, it seems unfair to close it for good before there's time to get more people interested again.

please try to respect my idea, {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 20:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== <s>Weclome</s> Welcome Committee ==

I have a question, itsdotcom: If you are on the Welcome Committee, how do you track new users so you can introduce them with the [[User:First Time Here?|First Time Here]] template? -[[User:GChrome|El Trento]]
:The First Time Here? user is a bot that automatically puts links on new users' pages when they register. It's actually separate from the welcome committee. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Go Rangers!!! ==

That is all for now. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}} 00:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
:Too bad, Rangers. At least they got farther then my yanks. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
::I'm sad they didn't win it all, but I'm not really that disappointed. In fact, I'm very proud of how they did this season. Winning the pennant, especially when you never have before, is still a big deal. There are still two teams (Mariners and Expos/Nationals) that never have. The fact that the Rangers advanced to the World Series by completely taking apart the Yankees just made it all the sweeter. (Take that, Tom!) :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Subpages ==

Hey, is there any rule against transferring projects from the Fanstuff Wiki to a subpage of a Knowledge Base account? Now that I actually have a Blu-Ray player, I'd like to revise [[HRFWiki:Everything Else Greatest Hits|Everything Else Greatest Hits]] to seem more like a Blu-Ray Disc (with picture-in-picture extras, etc). {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 03:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. On [[HRWiki:User space#What about user subpages?|HRWiki:User space]] under [[HRWiki:User space#What about user subpages?|What about user subpages?]], the second item under what is not allowed is "pieces of fanstuff". Feel free to transfer it to your own website, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== New Logo ==
Did you make that? What a great idea! {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 03:11, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, the idea came from the annony of [[{{#ifexist:HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 40|HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 40#Wiki image|Talk:Main Page#Wiki image}}|this Main Page discussion]], who was concerned about the bandwidth being [[isp|sucked up]] by that giant, 1 MB GIF. That is some epic decompiler work you did there, Dot Com! I've always wondered how you got Homestar in the logo like that, and I enjoy the little Easter Egg. The addition of Flash detection is also very nice. Except I'm not that big of a fan of the lost Decemberween colors, but it adds consistency and balances the page, in my opinion. Also, you might want to remove the special no-click treatment for the 'flakes. It's making my cursor spazz-out. Anyway, great work! Now everything is tiny. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 04:16, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well, to be fair, all he said was that we should make it into a SWF, which is an idea that I had years ago but had never taken the time to implement. So really he just nudged me into going ahead and doing it. Redrawing the logo GIF as a vector format, designing the snowflakes, coding their motion (notice that they never repeat), and adding hidden extras were all me. Anyways, thanks! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:17, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Aforementioned annony here, nice work on the swf! I'm a flash animator myself and I would have made it if you had said something "well why don't you make it yourself if you're so concerned" :P --[[Special:Contributions/184.56.45.155|184.56.45.155]] 06:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Nah, it's cool. I enjoyed the practice, and given the various issues regarding SWFs and security, etc., it's the kind of project I'd prefer to do start to finish myself if at all possible. Glad you like it! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::It all turned out great, especially now that it has the Decemberween colors. Good job Dot Com for making it and 184.56.45.155 for getting Dot Com off his lazy bum. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 16:11, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::(For the record, not really, Dot Com.) {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 20:40, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
::: (Oh, I know.) :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm really impressed! Good job! I love the dween logo and the new years one too. I guess you're going to turn them all into SWF files now eh? Like the idea of little easter eggs in the future like with the dween one haha. Can't wait to see other holidays (especially Halloween) in the future. Maybe for Halloween you could make it where clicking on Homestar would change his costume or something in the logo, that's a good idea. I know Halloween is a long ways off though haha.{{User:Bleed0range/sig}}

=== HRWiki celebrates New Year's with a logo ===

(This was made on 1/1/11 so don't say "I don't see it")
Hey, I just like to comment the new years logo. I like how after a few seconds Homestar blows a party blower and confetti falls. It really caught my eye. I thought I saw something on the logo other (of course other than Homestar blinking every 3 seconds) and I waited a few seconds and I saw Homestar blowin' a party blower and confetti falling from [[Hammerspace]]!. It's a great way to celebrate 2011! {{user:Pgj1997/sig}}
:That ''is'' a nice easter egg. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 04:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
::I don't think either of you have found the ''real'' Easter egg yet. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Oh gosh, I just found the ACTUAL easter egg.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 05:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Ahhh I see, your supposed to click on it, then Homestar will say "Happy New Year" then he'll blow a party blower while confetti falls from [[Hammerspace]] I see now. [[User:Pgj1997|Pgj1997]]
:::::Right now it looks like it toggles between homestar, marzipan, and strong bad wearing winter hats or earmuffs.  eventually, homestar turns into a [[Special:Random]] type link. but i can't figure out if there's a set number of clicks for that to happen. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:53, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::The logo has been changed back to the [[not]] New Year's version yesterday, you know. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 03:02, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::...yes, i am well aware of that. there was a small piece that i omitted from the previous post b/c i thought it was overkill, but it looks like i had to invisicomment it back in. i was asking about the random page thing - if that was an intentional Easter egg. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:10, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, that is an intentional Easter egg. The trigger is not the number of clicks, but it ''is'' something specific. You can guess again or if you want I'll just tell you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:15, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think intentional was the right word; i figured it was intentional. anyway, before i guess again, am i correct in saying that it's homestar every time? it certainly seems to be {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::Nope. In fact, you don't even have to click in the area where the characters are. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::DC, could you maybe give me a link to the New Year's logo? Pretty please? It seems I missed seeing that one. {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 03:41, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
''See [[Special:Logos]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:Hey, thanks. :) {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 03:51, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::You know, maybe you could make a couple of Special pages where admins can change and users can view the logos used here. SWF, GIF, and all that, and all that. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 03:58, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I'm not going to add anything to the page right away, but I changed the name of the special page to a more generic name in case we want to do so later on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:05, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::::If anyone's still wondering, it's the snowflakes that send you to random pages. Right? {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 01:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ding! Not last place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:03, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::is it okay if the logo that showed up last friday is included in the [[Special:Logos]] page? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::::It will be, sooner or later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Y'ello, Dot Com, I was wondering, in the vague interest of another wiki I contribute to, how and where you added the animated logo, both in its current swf form, and its previous form. (Though I can't help but wonder if I shouldn't already have figured that one out myself... *sigh* Oh well...) --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 02:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:We're using the [[Wikipedia:SWFObject|SWFObject]] method of adding SWF files to pages, which seems to work well across many browsers while also being compatible with devices with no Flash support. It requires placing <code>swfobject.js</code> on your server in addition to your SWF logo. (Note: we're using [http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ version 1.5], but later versions have been released.) The following quick and dirty edit of <code>MonoBook.php</code> will do the trick (be sure to adjust the paths to point to the correct files). The next time we upgrade MediaWiki, I'll probably fancy it up a little, but for now it's fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
<pre>--- MonoBook.php[orig (MW 1.15)]
+++ MonoBook.php[new]
@@ -174,13 +174,22 @@ class MonoBookTemplate extends QuickTemp
<?php } ?>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
<div class="portlet" id="p-logo">
+ <script type="text/javascript" src="/path/to/swfobject.js"></script>
+
+ <div id="flashcontent">
<a style="background-image: url(<?php $this->text('logopath') ?>);" <?php
?>href="<?php echo htmlspecialchars($this->data['nav_urls']['mainpage']['href'])?>"<?php
echo $skin->tooltipAndAccesskey('p-logo') ?>></a>
+ </div>
+
+ <script type="text/javascript">
+ var so = new SWFObject("/path/to/logo_name.swf", "logo_name", "150", "150", "8", "#ffffff");
+ so.write("flashcontent");
+ </script>
</div>
<script type="<?php $this->text('jsmimetype') ?>"> if (window.isMSIE55) fixalpha(); </script>
<?php
$sidebar = $this->data['sidebar'];
if ( !isset( $sidebar['SEARCH'] ) ) $sidebar['SEARCH'] = true;</pre>

== Special:Scramble ==
OK. Also, since I already made this one section on your user talkpage, I might as well ask another question that came to mind. The MediaWiki extension that makes a new special page, which can allow someone to view a scrambled version of a specified page, is that available on request? Or is it already in the MediaWiki get extensions list? [[User:LikeLakers2|LikeLakers2]] 23:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:No, it's not available anywhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Image ==

what do u mean upload this as a different file http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/File:coachz1936.png
: What he means to say, Marzifan, is to create another, seperate picture instead of overwriting an existing one. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 11:03, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Wiki 2 ==

Is it OK to make a "Fanstuff Wiki 2" and post about it on my userpage? --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 15:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
:As long as you don't rip off any of our designs or imply that you're in any way affiliated with us, I don't care what you do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:57, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey can we have the OT boards on the wiki forum and the Fanstuff wiki opened again please and thank you very much sir!!!!!! [[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 06:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

== My username ==

Dear It's Dot Com

Hey man, It is me, long time no see.

Hey listen, I was hoping you could assist me, see, I wish to change my username. When i originally made my username, I guess I was naive then, but with the times as they are, I wish to change my HRWiki username, please help me.

Cheers
[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
:Why do you want to change your username, and what do you want to change it to? If it's because you used your real name, I really wouldn't worry about it unless you have some specific, concrete reason, mainly because now that your name is already in the history of pages, it's not like it's just going to disappear. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

== Scramble extension ==

I know I've asked before about the extensions, but I was just wondering: would you be happy with releasing the Scramble extension you made to the public? [[User:LikeLakers2|LikeLakers2]] 03:36, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

== Tentative request ==

Hello, It's dot com! I'd like to apologize in advance for bringing this issue up again, but I have a request regarding the old Fanstuff Wiki files. I hope this doesn't already deter you, I intend to be respectful and cooperative. The old Fanstuff wiki holds a good deal of nostalgia for me, as well as for a few of my friends. The "purged" fanstuff wiki retains some of this nostalgia (thanks for continuing to host that, by the way!) but much of the community discussion and silliness is contained only on the old files. If you even still have the pre-"purge" fanstuff wiki files, then I would be delighted to take them off your hands.

'''Note that I don't intend to start up the H*R Fanstuff Wiki again!''' First because you've expressed that you wish our community distanced from yours, and second because the original Fanstuff Wiki community has since dispersed anyway. I understand that any attempt to resurrect the site would be ill-advised, so I will not do that. I merely intend to sift through old pages which were lost in the purge, for historical and entertainment purposes. I may host it as a private archive on my own website, but if this would bother you then I will not do so. The HRFWiki harbored a lot of my creative efforts in my early teenage years, and I would just like to reflect on that community's golden years. I hope you understand.

Apologies again for the bothering, especially as it seems you've already suffered a great deal of passive-aggressive remarks on the Fanstuff Wiki issues. I apologize for anything I did personally in that way. I don't intend to push the issue but it would mean a great deal to me if you would do this for me. Thank you!

{{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 21:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
:I understand your reservations in responding to such a request. A simple "no" will suffice if that's how you feel. I won't bother you again. {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 09:19, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
::Apologies for the late reply. I've repeatedly stated that those files should be considered gone, sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Oh yes, I remember that policy now. Well, in my view, such a policy is not really necessary any longer, as the reasons and needs to keep these files from the community have since become more or less unnecessary, mainly as the community is practically gone, as is the tension and problems surrounding what originally spurred the purge to happen. I also understand your hesitancy in providing the archive to any old user, so perhaps it's worth noting that I also spent a bit of time acting as a sysop in this community, and in this position I did my best to mitigate conflict and tension, and to keep users abiding by the standards. I understand that you never had much high esteem for the fanstuff portion of this wiki, and probably rightfully so. But it all meant a lot to me, perhaps as much as Homestar Runner itself! It fostered a lot of goofy discussion and fledgling creative efforts, at least it did in its earlier years, much of which did not survive to the archive which is hosted now.
:::Sorry, I guess I'm rambling again! Really I just mean to ask that you'd please reconsider your policy, now that the nasty politics surrounding Fanstuff Wiki issues have dissipated! Speaking for myself, transferring ownership of these forgotten archives to a humble old, reminiscing sysop doesn't seem particularly problematic, and I hope that you can see things this way too. It would really mean a lot to me if you could do this favor for me!
:::Also I understand that further discussion in a public medium may not be especially desirable to you. If you would prefer to discuss this via e-mail you can contact me at pullskip@gmail.com. Also, if there is someone else who would be better for me to talk to at this point, let me know. {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 08:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh, and if feel that you can only offer parts of the files, or can only offer them under my abiding certain conditions, please say so. I also hope I don't sound rude at this point! And I hope it doesn't sound like I'm arguing, or trying to make you upset. I would just be very, very happy if I could revisit a tiny part of my childhood. {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 08:40, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

== Мојот страница ==

Зошто бил мојот страница обратна? Зборуваме јас „Хитлер бил добро“. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 03:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
:Seguramente no me necesitas explicar por qué estas cosas no eran apropiados. Nuestras pautas para el contenido no han ido a ninguna parte. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

== Slow loading and Forum registration, ==

Hello "Dot com"

I like to report a server problem or some kind, it's loading the pages slowly, I'm not joking, its true!

Also I can't seem to register at the forums, I'm stuck at the Terms page.

== This place is a ghost town ==

But I need something that only you can get. I posted a Homestar fanfiction on a subpage a few years ago, and you deleted it, which I'm completely fine with. However, I think I accidentally deleted the fanfic from my fanfiction.net account, so if it won't cause you much trouble, could you go through my deleted contributions and send it to me through e-mail? It would be very much appreciated,
-{{User:JCM/sig}} 02:10, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

== About my username ==

Dear It's dot com

It's me again, I know I come on rarely but its mostly because of well, work.

Anyway, I was hoping you could help change my user name, or at least direct me to the page where it can be changed?

I realize that my user name will be in the history pages of whatever articles I edited, but people outside this wiki will not be bothered to look past the user page.

Help would be appreciated.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:50, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
:Why do you want to change your username? What would you change it to? We usually don't change usernames of users who have established themselves, which you have. If it's a privacy thing, changing your username wouldn't help anyway, because every time you've signed your name it's there in the text of the page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

== One Two, One Two ==

I just have a quick question since you were experimenting on something and gave the One Two, One Two article some time on the front page. Would we need to tag it as a featured article now or just wait until it's officially nominated and granted FA by wiki consensus? — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:48, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
:A side note, it wasn't an experiment. It was one, two, one, two day (12/12/12). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:50, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
::D'oh. Had a [[4 branches|2+2=22 moment]]. Anyways the question still stands. Does it still need to be marked as featured? I figured I should just ask first rather than going ahead and then getting rv'd for it. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:54, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I agree with stux's suggestion [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&diff=733796&oldid=733749&rcid=696326 here]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
::::I don't mind its being listed in the big list, but I don't consider it a real featured article. It was just a little joke (that I didn't even come up with myself). I didn't even bother to do a full writeup, because that wasn't the joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

== IMDb ==

All of H*R Wiki's links to IMDb are currently broken due to changes in IMDb's film URLs. --[[User:JohnnyLurg|JohnnyLurg]] 02:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

== Change forum email ==

I would like the email address associated with my forum account (also called Dagoth) to be changed to [address removed]. Can you do that? [[User:Dagoth|Dagoth]] 02:01, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:Actually, ''you'' can: Log in to the forum, and then go to '''User Control Panel''' → '''Profile''' → '''Edit account settings''' → '''Email address''' (if you're logged in to the forum, {{p|l=http://forum.hrwiki.org/ucp.php?i=profile&mode=reg_details this link}} should take you straight there). Enter your new address in the both that field and the confirmation field. Then enter your password at the bottom and press submit. You're done! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
::the problem is I dont remember my password and the email account associated with the account is closed. [[User:Dagoth|Dagoth]] 16:11, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Oh, well why didn't you say so. All right, I've looked into it and am reasonably satisfied that you created both accounts, so, done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

== Your comment on my talk page about my so-called "prank" ==

Why, pray tell, would you "rather not block" me? {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 10:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:I'd rather not block ''any'' user. It is a last resort. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:44, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

== Space or no after em dashes ==
"You don't need 'em after ''em'' dashes". That's some funny stuff, man! I looked it up and I confused hyphens with the spacing rules for ellipses. I'm going to edit some of my edits now... {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 02:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
So would [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=army&curid=813&diff=735216&oldid=733847&rcid=697772 this edit] be valid? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 02:42, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
: I'd say yes. By the way, I wish I could tell you that was an intentional pun, but it wasn't. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Comedic gold, nonetheless. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 02:57, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Would I space after &mdashes? Are they the equivalent of em dashes, or are they different somehow (like en dashes and hyphens)? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 03:17, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
:Are you asking if there's a difference between <code>&mdash;</code> and <code>—</code> in the code? No, with regard to the page output, there's not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:55, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
::I'm not sure how to (or it's not in my privileges), but would you change the Strong Bad email running gags category into the proper capitalization (Strong Bad Email Running Gags?) And a hefty request- I'm currently trying to change <code>&mdash;</code> and <code>—</code> into —, for overall consistency now that we support it- could you add that to The Cheat Bot's functions? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 16:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC) AND WHY DID THE FONT CHANGE?
:::Wait, don't do that. See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Raw characters vs HTML entities|HRWiki talk:Standards → Raw characters vs HTML entities]] (skip to "Now, I will make one exception to this... and that's dashes" for the relevant part). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
::Broncotroll - The font changed because you accidentally broke the code tags. It has since been fixed. Be sure that for every <nowiki><tag> you have, to close it with a </tag> with a slash in front.</nowiki> {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
::: Thanks, are you speaking of the edit conflict that deleted some other thing I wrote (or... meant to write... I swear... dreamed of writing?). I love to see the wiki running at this speed, too! As for new user A: was that meant to mean me and if so B: I found hr in early 2004, I didn't join the wiki until 2 years ago (or become active until a few weeks ago) for reasons I will at some point describe on my user page... some time. Basically, I only considered joining after the hiatus to keep morale up. But here's the thing I think I meant to write: Aaaah- so should I replace — with mdash or just leave everything? Also, there are lots of instances of using em dashes on the wiki where en dashes should be used... should I fix those? If so, should I use (en dash I'm to lazy to copy and paste) or ndash? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 17:24, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
:::: You should just leave them. As far as the reader is concerned, there is no difference between <code>&mdash;</code> and an actual em dash in the code. For that reason alone it's typically not worth the edit to change them. All it's doing is adding another revision to the database with no real gain. On top of all that, as mentioned on the standards talk page, we have reasons for preferring entities over raw characters when it comes to dashes. It's not a big deal with the ones you already changed, but I wouldn't change any more. Where are em dashes being used where en dashes should be? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:11, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
::::: Ex: for dates on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, "Lappy Era: 26 — some other year", I replaced them with en's (not in raw though) in [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&curid=732&diff=735237&oldid=734947&rcid=697793 this edit]. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 18:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::: I changed them back, even though the en dashes are technically correct. With the spaces on either side of the dashes, I think the en dashes looked too wimpy compared to the em dashes. By the way, I think you might have your terminology backwards: A dash by itself in the code—like this—is what we mean when we say raw. An HTML entity (like <code>&mdash;</code>) is not raw. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:36, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::: Do you mean too wimpy in general or just for important headings like in that page (you didn't change the DVD release info 1–200 into em). I wouldn't say I had my terminology backwards, as that would imply that I know what I'm talking about- I kinda just winged it when I saw you using the terms. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 18:42, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::::: For multiple-word headings with lots of white space. I didn't change the one I didn't change because the en dash is appropriate there. It's in running text, it connects just two things, and there are no spaces. By the way, the appearance of your signature in this thread is a good example of why we discourage non-white backgrounds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:57, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

==April Fools'==
There have been some dumb pranks in the past but this is the worst. I am personally offended by this April Fools' prank. I might just report this wiki to International Wiki Headquarters and have them ban this wiki from the web. It will take me days to recover from this "prank." I mean COME ON! I am organizing a full out wiki boycott TODAY! From today on NO MORE editing from ANYONE! If you don't put these links back to normal I will PERSONALLY make sure no one will ever see this website again! This is a DISGRACE! My god! How could you do something this disgusting!? Changing links... just wow. This is the worst thing to happen since... since... I don't even know. This is a big deal. {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
:Good one. ''Almost'' as funny as your old Thingy videos. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
::I wouldn't call it offensive—just annoying and inefficient. None of the site actually changed, the links are the same and everything, he's just using this weird magic to randomly redirect links. And they're relevant— edit goes to edit, talk goes to talk, pictures go to other pictures. The good news is I lost my pitiful reliance to hyperlinks—I typed in the URL for editing this talk page from scratch! Can you imagine the state of this wiki, though, if the site ''had'' updated? Now that... would be unpleasant. Look, the guy wrote the flipping binary for the site layout, he can mess with people if he wants to. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 01:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
:::I doubt he meant it sincerely (I'm 70% sure). I was actually hoping that the site would update, because the chaos would have been amazing. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
::::Hey, my old Thingy videos were comedic genius. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnU8m_VyLE8 You just don't see stuff like this anymore!] {{User:The thing/sig}} 01:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::Alright, now I'm confused. ''Were'' you joking? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 01:29, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
::::::Joking? On April Fools' Day? Of course not! {{User:The thing/sig}} 01:40, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
:::::::That's embarrassing. Hey, sarcasm is hard on the internet. Roll my eyes. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 01:42, 2 April 2013 (UTC) AND I NOTICED IT WAS A JOKE EARLIER BUT YOU HAD A CONFLICTING EDIT! GAHH! THERE WAS ALWAYS AN ELEVATOR!

== New Account... ==

It's Dot Com, My name is Jeff Daniels, I am looking to create a new account, Broncotroll suggested I see you. I have been active in the wiki as 65.33.23*.*. I would like to bypass the whole email thing, as my parents are VERY strict about what emails I send to who, and they don't like me sending emails to strangers (accept maybe Strong Bad). I have/had a Wikipedia account (Jdaniels15), and my edits are usually limited to typos and misspellings (which thrive in WP). I do not like the visual word varification picture things. Sometimes you can hardly recognize the letters, and when you can they are often the letters that have identical capital and lower-case forms (I.E.: V, C, X, S, O, W, Z). It usually takes me 5-6 tries just to get one right. I also have a khwiki.net account, username Jdaniels15, though my handle is ToaJuaraevo01. This is strictly for simplicirty, as ALL of my accounts have the Jdaniels15 username, with 1 of 3 parsswords for each one. For obvious reasons none of them will be revearled, 'cause, hey, ya never know who's whartchin'. Thank you for your time, [[Special:Contributions/65.33.237.1|65.33.237.1]] 14:46, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I am 22, and, being both in collage, and emotionally challenged (hence my rather lingual post on the "500 The Cheats" page), I live with my Grandparents. (It's a LONG story, so please do NOT ask... It would be like asking Homsar to speak proper English). Again, Thanks
:Okay, I've created [[User:Jdaniels15]], but you'll have to tell us your email address (or send an email to admin@hrwiki.org) in order to get the password. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:10, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
::[Redacted]. thanks Jdaniels15/ToaJuaraevo01/[[Special:Contributions/65.33.237.1|65.33.237.1]] 16:24, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Okay, check your email. You should have received a temporary password. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
:You may have noticed that my WP account is retired. The reason for this is that I noticed that there have been very few talk page edits/others as of late. In fact, most of the articles that I have seen have not had a single talk page edit since 2009-2011. Plus, there are many other wikis I can go to. So I cleared my watchlist, put up a retirement banner, and left. [[Special:Contributions/65.33.237.1|65.33.237.1]] 18:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
::I, uh, had actually not noticed that. Were you able to change your password and log in? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:26, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
This is TheUserFormarlyknownas65.33.237.1 (AKA Jdaniels15). Thanks for helping with my new account! Excuse me while I take my coat of and get comfy...{{User:Jdaniels15/sig1}} 12:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
:You're welcome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

== Baleeted nonsense ==

Hello, dot-o com-o! Anyways, I was wandering, could you send me some sort of link or snapshot of the this is real joke page so I may scribe it onto the [[Hrwiki:April Fools' Jokes and other Baleeted Nonsense|April Fools' page]]? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 22:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC) (and I know my signature is bothersome, but once I get an NES emulator for my computer I can take accurate LoZ screenshots so it will look so cool, you won' even know its highly discouraged!)
:Nah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
::... Can I still add it in? I think it was interesting, and there are several related things on the page. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 23:49, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
:::I don't think that's necessary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

== Dear Tube Socks, ==

It's me again. I hope you had a good year. Free of athletes' feet and toe jam. :)

If you don't remember me, I'm the user [[User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Shadow Scythe]], although you can just call me Nigel. I'm glad to see the Homestar Runner Wiki is still up and being actively edited! I'll always have fond memories of both the website and its userbase. The website may be dead, but the community lives on! :)

The reason I'm writing is because I'm interested in hosting a mirror of the Fanstuff Wiki. I realize that at this point it's no longer linked to on the site, and it's been closed to new edits for nearly three years now. Further, I read on the Donations page that it costs around $50 per month to host this website, and I imagine that a significant portion of that comes from hosting the archived Fanstuff. Myself, I wouldn't mind hosting it, mostly because of its sentimental value to me. However, I also intend to keep an offline copy, with which I'll conduct some research on how a small fanbase changes over time as its userbase grows, shrinks, and ages.

I understand that you're busy with other administrative duties, and certainly other duties in life; as such, I'm prepared to offer you monetary compensation for your time and services, either directly donated to the Wiki, or given to you, whatever you feel is appropriate. I'm prepared to offer $25 immediately but I'm willing to negotiate, if you think it will take a lot of time on your part. If you would rather communicate by e-mail, at pullskip (at) gmail (dot) com! Thank you for your consideration!

[[User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Nigel]]

:Only three years? I would have thought it was more than that. The fanstuff archive is fine where it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:50, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
::I would have thought it was longer too! But [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history these edits] seem to indicate it was closed back in June 2010.
::Anyways, if you're still OK with hosting the Fanstuff for the time being, then that's great! I suppose I was just worried that it might someday disappear if, for instance, it was taking up too much space or was costing a lot to host or something like that, so I figured I might as well offer to mirror it if you didn't want to host it yourself. If that's ever the case in the future, let me know. :)
::Though, even if you don't need it mirrored at this point, would it be possible for me to get a copy of the content, just in case? For that matter, what about the purged content? (If you even still have it.) I understand you had reservations about keeping that offline in the past, although now I'd imagine they'd be obsolete. But I digress.
::In any case, thanks for getting back to me, and keep on tranglin'! — [[User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!|Nigel]] 06:11, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

== Wassup ==

Have you seen the new episodes of Arrested Development on Netflix? I remember you being a big fan. {{User:JCM/sig}} 19:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

== Greetings ==

I miss chatting with you. It's been YEARS. Wish I would go back to 2010 when there was still hope. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 20:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

== Recent vandals? ==

Here's the thing. I went to check recent changes (like most do) and I saw one lone anonnym'n making a ton of pointless pages. Though yes, it does says you deleted them, so I bet you noticed, but do you have any clue what's going on? He was dang stubborn, so I have a small worry on this. And if you didn't delete those pages, I will freak out more then Marzipan encountering the Cheat with Terminal 7 Brain Cnacer with Rank tooty-two billion rabies. --[[User:Camwoodstock|Camwoodstock]] 16:39, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
:I think maybe you should keep your pants on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:05, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
::[[Not the 100th Email!!!|...What pants? Hmmmm...]] But really, in all seriousness, I feel paranoid when some vandal is that presistant. It just never ceases to spook me. Nothing is scarier. [[Seriously]]. Not even that bad creepypasta. In fact, those are lame, but that's another story. I am just paranoid, so feel free to leave a talk page message if you have any updates. --[[User:Camwoodstock|Camwoodstock]] 19:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
:::That vandal was nothing. A mere fly to be swatted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:22, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

== way2spooky4homestar ==

I like this cool Halloween design for the wiki, yo. --[[User:Camwoodstock|Camwoodstock]] 21:31, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

== I'm leaving ==

I have made the decision to leave the HRWiki. Would you be able to please delete all my subpages and all but the most recent revisions of my userpage, my sig page and my talk page? I want ALL of it gone. [[User:Dagoth|Dagoth]] 11:01, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
:Fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

== Happy late new year ==

And did you get what you wanted for Decemberween? One last thing, though, am I the only one other then the wiki members here that noticed the store update? [[User:Camwoodstock|Camwoodstock]] 16:38, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
:I did. As for the store update, I didn't take a poll (of everyone in the world). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

== The Forum ==

Hey man. Douglas from the forum here. I've tried to get the admins' attention through there, but no dice. Listen, I'd love to have the chance to get in there and clean it up - I used to love posting there back when Off-Subject was open pre-2008. I check at least once a week to see if there's been any admin activity, but I don't really see any... since it looks like most of the administration there has given up on the place, would it be conceivable to give a regular user admin privileges? I'd be willing to take that on. I'd just really like to clean it up and see if I can breathe some sort of life back into the place. Let me know what you think. --Douglas
:We've cleaned up most that we found. We've made ourselves a note to check on it a little more frequently. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:29, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

== A History ==
Hey It's dot com, I was looking at [[HRWiki:A History]] and noticed the content was a bit old and figured you'd be just the chap to update it with server moves and wiki versions and such. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:16, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

== How to request a username ==

How do you request a username? [[Special:Contributions/107.77.68.28|107.77.68.28]] 23:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:*'''To register, choose a username and send it in an email to [mailto:admin@hrwiki.org admin@hrwiki.org]'''.
:*Avoid usernames that are offensive, inflammatory, or confusing.
:*Pick a readable name, not just a number.
:*Avoid choosing a username that is identical to the name of a Homestar Runner character, toon, place, etc.
:*Note that your choice may be rejected if it is too close to an existing user's username.

: Keep on tranglin'! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks![[User:Muppetgeek|Muppetgeek]] 22:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

== Regarding gif thumbnails conversion ==

Hey there wiki-admin-guy! I was reading up on some [[User_talk:Broncotroll#GIF_thumbnails|user talk pages]], and you stated that you manually fix thumbnails for .gifs that are used in articles. If you have the time, could you fix the thumbnail for [[:File:KeyboardStrongBadTweet.gif]] on [[@StrongBadActual]]? Thanks! - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 19:50, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:We'll get it fixed. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
::Fixed. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

== It's dot shirt! ==

How sweet, they made you [https://homestore-runner.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/its-dot-com-shirt?variant=9187338053 your own shirt]! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:55, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

The House That Gave Sucky Tricks

AbdiViklas — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:47:46 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Real-World References */ aaaaand minus one point for me for not catching that comma the first time

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|ween15|Record Store Day|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:The House That Gave Sucky Treats2.png|200px|thumb|"THIS HALLOWEEN'S NOT WORKING!"]]
:''Not to be confused with [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].''

Homestar's lame haunted house inspires Strong Bad to make his own lame haunted house.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Mad]], [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Rocoulm]], [[Marzipan]], [[King of Town]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Homsar]], [[The Knight]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Ugly One]], [[Coach Z]], [[Bubs]], [[Cheerleader]], [[The Sad Kids]], [[Pom Pom]]

See '''[[The House That Gave Sucky Tricks Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Date: ''' Thursday, October 29, 2015

'''Running Time:''' 5:30 ([[TV Time Toons Menu]]), 8:12 ([[YouTube]])

'''Page Title:''' St. Cadaverstump's Home for Wayward Sbemails

==Transcript==
''{We begin at Homestar's house. Ukulele music plays. Show a tennis racket with a grey wig, googly eyes, and fangs drawn on a Post-It note. }''

''{Cut to more Halloween "decorations": an exercise bike with "Boo" taped on the handlebars, empty picture frames with ketchup and mustard splatters, a ghost on [[Homestar's cow lamp]], and his clock showing 666. }''

''{Cut to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat }''

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS HALLOWEEN'S NOT WORKING!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Boy, you said it Strong Mad. This is the lamest haunted house ever. ''{looks down}'' My pants haven't entertained the thought of peeing themselves even once.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Scary shoes!

''{Shoes fall down from the ceiling}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{bored}'' Really? Spooky shoes?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': No, no. Scary shoes. Spooky shoes are the next room.

'''STRONG BAD''': Homestar, your haunted house is even worse than normal this year. ''{poking spear at Homestar}'' You ever think of using any actual Halloween decorations?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': No, Marzipan only let me use stuff from the Goodwill donations pile. Incomplete jigsaw puzzle!

'''THE CHEAT''': Meh!

''{The Cheat runs and hides behind Strong Mad}''

'''STRONG BAD''': This place is a disgrace to haunted houses, haunted hovels, haunted timeshares, and haunted extended stay motels even. Why, if I had a haunted house, I think it would turn out a little something... like the following ''{echoes}'' cartoon!

'''STRONG BAD''': Welcome to St. Cadaverstump's totally not just an old furniture warehouse morgue-tuary!

'''ANNOUNCER''': Open weeknights in October. Located just off I-20.

'''STRONG BAD''': The first room would come out swingin', with everybody's favorite jibblies painting, The Jibblies Painting!

''{The lights turn on revealing the Jibblies Painting. The music from [[Jibblies 2]] begins}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING''': Come on in here!

'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, yeah. We've all heard that before. But in order to take it to the next level, my haunted house would have a horrible painting of ''{thunder claps and lightning flashes}'' somebody's dad!

'''NEW JIBBLIES PAINTING''': Uh, hey, hey, hey, hey. Well, come on in here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{scared}'' Why is he wearing cycling gear? He's not even that serious about riding!

'''NEW JIBBLIES PAINTING''': Hey, I can do a 220 in 4:45.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ahhh!

'''STRONG BAD''': Then there would be... the gross out room. But instead of severed limbs and surgeries gone wrong...

'''MARZIPAN''': Ahhh!

'''STRONG BAD''': It's just a silent white room filled with pure stench. And, oh, ho, ho. What a stench it is! Let me lay it on you like a movie trailer.

''{Marzipan holds her breath}''

''{Dramatic music plays. Words appear on a red background as Strong Bad says them.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Strong Mad! Oyster! Smoothie! Breath! Caked! Armpit! Latte!

'''MARZIPAN''': Strong Bad, you know the words in that sequence are illegal. Arrest him, King of Town!

'''KING OF TOWN''': Keep piling up that smell, Poopsmith! Wait, I can arrest people?

'''MARZIPAN''': I think so, I mean you're allowed to execute people, right?

'''KING OF TOWN''': Do the words 'doo hoo hoo' mean anything to you?

''{Cut to outside the King of Town's castle. Homsar and the Knight are standing next to a guillotine}''

'''HOMSAR''': AaAaAaAaAaAaA! This has been a supreme fish delight!

''{Homsar puts his head in the guillotine. Just as the blade comes down, the scene cuts to a poster for the next room.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Ooh! There'd also be one of those immersive horror experience rooms that are so popular these days.

'''STRONG SAD''': OK. Gotta logic this out.

''{Close-up of the vault door giving off a white flash}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Open the vault...

''{Cut to the timer showing five minutes}''

'''STRONG SAD''': ...before time runs out.

''{Cut to a red skeleton in a cage, pointing at something}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Skeleton's pointing at a clue.

''{Cut back to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Am I on the right track?

'''STRONG BAD''': Now, just reach in the toilet. I just want you to reach in the toilet.

'''STRONG SAD''': It's pointing at the toilet.

'''STRONG BAD''': It's full of poop.

'''STRONG SAD''': But that's just misdirection.

'''STRONG BAD''': I just want you to touch the poop.

'''STRONG SAD''': They want me to think I should reach in the toilet.

'''STRONG BAD''': No! I do want you to reach in the toilet! That is all that I want you to do!

'''STRONG SAD''': It's too easy.

'''STRONG BAD''': Touch the poop!

'''STRONG SAD''': But I know better!

'''STRONG BAD''': Touch the freakin' poop!

''{Strong Bad falls out of his chair}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Most horror stuff is pretty obvious.

''{The Ugly One is walking down the street}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Like, of course it's terrifying to get disemjowel'd with a lunatic with a machete.

''{A Teen Girl Squad version of Strong Sad pops up on the bottom right}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Machété!

'''STRONG BAD''': Shut up! But I think people are ready for the more subtle terror of...

''{Cut to Coach Z and Bubs standing in a room with torn pink striped wallpaper}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Two star bed and breakfast!

'''COACH Z''': It's somehow worse than if it only got one star!

'''BUBS''': Dry scrambled eggs? Questionable hairs on the antimacassar?

'''STRONG SAD''': Antimacassar!

'''BUBS''': Shut up!

'''COACH Z''': Failed terlet paper rose! What kind of inhuman monsters would run a place like this?

'''SHUT UP LADY''': Oh, it's so charming!

'''COACH Z AND BUBS''': Shut up, lady!

'''STRONG BAD''': Nowadays, everybody's tired of the same old evil clowns, undead cheerleaders, and all those bloody-eyed found footage children.

'''THE SAD GIRL''': Nine.

'''THE SAD BOY''': Sequels.

'''STRONG BAD''': But for my haunted house, I will unleash an entirely new horror icon! Say hello to the new face of terror! Large bean!

'''STRONG BAD''': Come on, anybody? Don't you think that Large Bean is unsettling?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': And next on our tour, if you'll all please gather around. Fill in all available space please. We have a prime specimen of large bean.

'''STRONG BAD''': Wait. What, what the crap is this?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Other varieties include, small bean.

'''STRONG BAD''': Stop it!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Extra large bean.

'''STRONG BAD''': This is not a science museum!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': And, of course my favorite... teenie weenie beanie.

'''STRONG BAD''': You do not call large bean 'teenie weenie beanie'!

'''STRONG SAD''': I sure hope they sell large bean plush dolls in the museum gift shop!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': I think you might be pleasantly surprised, young scholar!

'''STRONG BAD''': Shut up! Large bean will eat your soul! He'll eat all your souls!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Wow Strong Bad, the spooky shoes room really affected you this year, huh?

'''STRONG BAD''': I thought this was the scary shoes room?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, right. Close your eyes.

'''STRONG BAD''': Um... OK.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Open 'em. You're in the spooky shoes room now.

'''STRONG BAD''': Uh. You were right Strong Mad. This Halloween's not working.

'''NARRATOR''': When nights are chill and filled with doom, again will rise the cursed legume. So if you're out on Hallowe'en, beware the wrath of Largest Bean! Ah ha ha ha!

'''STRONG BAD''': See? This guy respects Large Bean.

'''NARRATOR''': I'm sorry Strong Bad. I... I can't get behind Large Bean.

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end, click on Coach Z.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{switching costumes every time he says all right}'' All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, now ladies!
:'''MARZIPAN:''' No.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{dejected}'' All right...

*At the end, click on Strong Bad.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! You got it this year!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' What do I got?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Best Tropical Beetlejuice costume ever worn by man or beast!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' No! I'm- I'm Diamond Dave!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! ''{imitating David Lee Roth}'' HA-BO-DE-BO-DAH

*At the end, click on Homestar Runner.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'll be taking these Huggies and, uh... Whatever cash you got.
:'''BUBS:''' Son, you got a panty on your head.

*At the end, click on Bubs.
:'''BUBS:''' We'll be right back with more...stuff! ''{begins dancing, changing dance moves in rhythm with Homestar's singing}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{singing}'' Dooo de doo do do booo de doo do do!

*At the end, click on Strong Mad.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Mad, I really-really like your, hey Strong Mad-
:'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{The toon begins to play faster and a progress bar is shown, with it getting faster with every "Hup Up"}'' HUP UP! HUP UP! HUP UP!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I really like your skipping commercials costume.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' HUBOW!

*At the end, click on Pom Pom.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, so you're not dead, Pom Pom. That's pretty great. What's that guy's name again? Franklin? Spalding? Jon Voight? Maybe a little bit?

*At the end, click on The Poopsmith.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I WILL KILL HIM! ''{The Poopsmith raises his hands}'' If he doesn't put on some more clothes. ''Eugh.'' Molded plastic panties.

*At the end, click on The King of Town.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' King of Town, that is an actual costume, right? You didn't just get out of, what I can only assume, is a bath for you?
:'''KING OF TOWN:''' No; I mean something! I'm important!

*At the end, click on The Cheat.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, The Cheat. Aren't you worried that the KOT will try to eat you?
:'''KING OF TOWN:''' No, no, no, I'm more of a Cookie Puss man myself. Fudgie the whale always made me a little fudgie...
:'''STRONG BAD:''' You say no more word talk!

*At the end, click on Marzipan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan, I thought you dressed up as that guy a few years ago.
:'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, I dressed up as Prince that year.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right, right. The prince of pop.
:'''KING OF TOWN:''' No, the king of pop!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ohhh, the kid is not his son.

*At the end, click on the moon.
:''{cut to a shot with an orange inner frame and a white outer frame and a torn disposable coffee cup, dripping with coffee, and corn and pumpkin decor in the background}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' From the makers of Hot Jones and Hot Pooey, comes the Strong Mad Oyster Smoothie Breath Caked Armpit Latte! ''{A speech bubble forms from the cup, reading what the Announcer says}'' Oh my sweet Jennifer, there's no coming back from this one.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The name of this toon is based on [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], and a pun on the phrase, 'Trick or treat'.
*This the first Halloween toon Homsar appears without activating an Easter egg.
*This is the first Halloween toon not to include a main character other than Homsar (specifically, Pom Pom) outside the final scene.
*This is the first time Homestar [[I really like your costume|really liked someone's costume]] while correctly identifying it.
*This is the first Halloween toon that features a character switching costumes as well as a character switching costumes while still dressed as who they are supposed to be (specifically, Coach Z as André 3000 as each member of fictional band "The Love Below").

===Remarks===
*The King claims he doesn't know he can arrest people despite having placed Strong Bad under house arrest in [[Strong Badia the Free]].

===Goofs===
*In some scenes, the colors on Strong Bad's face switch sides.
*Sometime after being initially released, the toon was removed from the TV Time Toons Menu and the Main Page Messages.
*When Homestar is talking about the scary painting dad, part of the animation for his lip doesn't move as he talks.

===Inside References===
*In Pom Pom's Easter egg, Homestar makes references to the [[I Killed Pom Pom!|previous year's Halloween toon]], where he had "killed" Pom Pom by popping him. (Perhaps keeping with the theme, Pom Pom did not appear in the cartoon itself.)
*In Strong Mad's Easter egg, the song Homestar was singing first appeared in the teaser for this toon.
*Coach Z had considered dressing as André 3000 for Halloween in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*In Marzipan's Easter egg, Homestar references when she dressed up as Prince in [[Jibblies 2]].
*In Strong Bad's Easter egg, Homestar references when he dressed up as Beetlejuice in [[Jibblies 2]]. This is similar to how, in [[Happy Hallow-Day]], he mistook Strong Bad for "Evil Carmen Sandiego", when Strong Bad really dressed as Carmen Sandiego in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*The Knight is dressed as an Astropop, one of the treats available in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
**This is also the second time The Knight has been featured in a Halloween toon.
*The Strong Mad Oyster Smoothie Breath Caked Armpit Latte featured in the Easter Egg is another example of [[Real Live Foods]].
*The Armpit Latte is from the makers of Hot Jones and Hot Pooey, both of which previously appeared in [[A Decemberween Mackerel]], in a similar Easter egg.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Goodwill Industries|Goodwill Industries]] is an American nonprofit organization.
*[[Michael Jackson]] was a musician, known as the "King of Pop". Marzipan's mention of her dressing up as Prince connects towards Jackson, as they were rivals in the eighties.
**"The kid is not his son" references the Jackson song "[[Wikipedia:Billie Jean|Billie Jean]]", which was released in 1982 off his album ''Thriller''.
*As Strong Bad mentions found footage movies, the Sad Kids mention the sequel counts, which could be a reference to the found footage film franchise, ''[[Wikipedia:Paranormal Activity (film series)|Paranormal Activity]]''.
*The narrator at the end, as well as his rhyming cadence and the background organ music, is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:List of Haunted Mansion characters#Ghost Host|Ghost Host]] of Disney's [[Wikipedia:Haunted Mansion|Haunted Mansion]].
*The repeated "All right" in Coach Z's Easter egg references the song [[Wikipedia:Hey Ya!|Hey Ya!]] by [[Wikipedia:Outkast|Outkast]].
*Although Homestar refers to actor Jon Voight in his listing of names for Wilson the volleyball, he was likely actually referring to the Voit sporting goods company, which makes various athletic equipment.
**Franklin and Spalding are also names of sporting goods companies.
*Cookie Puss, like Fudgie the Whale, is a mascot of the [[Wikipedia:Carvel|Carvel]] ice cream store chain.
*Bubs's Easter egg features two direct references to ''The Gong Show''.
**Chuck Barris, the host of the show and the inspiration for Bubs's costume, would always throw to commercial saying "We'll be right back with more...stuff!"
**The song Homestar hums is "Jumpin' at the Woodside", a Count Basie tune which was the theme song for ''Gong Show'' regular [[Wikipedia:Gene Gene the Dancing Machine|Gene Gene the Dancing Machine]].
*Strong Bad sets up a room where he wants Strong Sad to "logic out" the clues. This is based on [[Wikipedia:Race to Escape|Race to Escape]], a game show on [[Wikipedia:Science (TV network)|The Science Channel]].
*Strong Bad's haunted house is located just off [[Wikipedia:Interstate 20|I-20]], which runs right through [[Atlanta]].

==External Links==
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The House That Gave Sucky Tricks

AbdiViklas — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:46:56 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Real-World References */ A little nitpicky improvement

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[[Image:The House That Gave Sucky Treats2.png|200px|thumb|"THIS HALLOWEEN'S NOT WORKING!"]]
:''Not to be confused with [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].''

Homestar's lame haunted house inspires Strong Bad to make his own lame haunted house.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Mad]], [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Rocoulm]], [[Marzipan]], [[King of Town]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Homsar]], [[The Knight]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Ugly One]], [[Coach Z]], [[Bubs]], [[Cheerleader]], [[The Sad Kids]], [[Pom Pom]]

See '''[[The House That Gave Sucky Tricks Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Date: ''' Thursday, October 29, 2015

'''Running Time:''' 5:30 ([[TV Time Toons Menu]]), 8:12 ([[YouTube]])

'''Page Title:''' St. Cadaverstump's Home for Wayward Sbemails

==Transcript==
''{We begin at Homestar's house. Ukulele music plays. Show a tennis racket with a grey wig, googly eyes, and fangs drawn on a Post-It note. }''

''{Cut to more Halloween "decorations": an exercise bike with "Boo" taped on the handlebars, empty picture frames with ketchup and mustard splatters, a ghost on [[Homestar's cow lamp]], and his clock showing 666. }''

''{Cut to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat }''

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS HALLOWEEN'S NOT WORKING!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Boy, you said it Strong Mad. This is the lamest haunted house ever. ''{looks down}'' My pants haven't entertained the thought of peeing themselves even once.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Scary shoes!

''{Shoes fall down from the ceiling}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{bored}'' Really? Spooky shoes?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': No, no. Scary shoes. Spooky shoes are the next room.

'''STRONG BAD''': Homestar, your haunted house is even worse than normal this year. ''{poking spear at Homestar}'' You ever think of using any actual Halloween decorations?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': No, Marzipan only let me use stuff from the Goodwill donations pile. Incomplete jigsaw puzzle!

'''THE CHEAT''': Meh!

''{The Cheat runs and hides behind Strong Mad}''

'''STRONG BAD''': This place is a disgrace to haunted houses, haunted hovels, haunted timeshares, and haunted extended stay motels even. Why, if I had a haunted house, I think it would turn out a little something... like the following ''{echoes}'' cartoon!

'''STRONG BAD''': Welcome to St. Cadaverstump's totally not just an old furniture warehouse morgue-tuary!

'''ANNOUNCER''': Open weeknights in October. Located just off I-20.

'''STRONG BAD''': The first room would come out swingin', with everybody's favorite jibblies painting, The Jibblies Painting!

''{The lights turn on revealing the Jibblies Painting. The music from [[Jibblies 2]] begins}''

'''HORRIBLE PAINTING''': Come on in here!

'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, yeah. We've all heard that before. But in order to take it to the next level, my haunted house would have a horrible painting of ''{thunder claps and lightning flashes}'' somebody's dad!

'''NEW JIBBLIES PAINTING''': Uh, hey, hey, hey, hey. Well, come on in here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{scared}'' Why is he wearing cycling gear? He's not even that serious about riding!

'''NEW JIBBLIES PAINTING''': Hey, I can do a 220 in 4:45.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ahhh!

'''STRONG BAD''': Then there would be... the gross out room. But instead of severed limbs and surgeries gone wrong...

'''MARZIPAN''': Ahhh!

'''STRONG BAD''': It's just a silent white room filled with pure stench. And, oh, ho, ho. What a stench it is! Let me lay it on you like a movie trailer.

''{Marzipan holds her breath}''

''{Dramatic music plays. Words appear on a red background as Strong Bad says them.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Strong Mad! Oyster! Smoothie! Breath! Caked! Armpit! Latte!

'''MARZIPAN''': Strong Bad, you know the words in that sequence are illegal. Arrest him, King of Town!

'''KING OF TOWN''': Keep piling up that smell, Poopsmith! Wait, I can arrest people?

'''MARZIPAN''': I think so, I mean you're allowed to execute people, right?

'''KING OF TOWN''': Do the words 'doo hoo hoo' mean anything to you?

''{Cut to outside the King of Town's castle. Homsar and the Knight are standing next to a guillotine}''

'''HOMSAR''': AaAaAaAaAaAaA! This has been a supreme fish delight!

''{Homsar puts his head in the guillotine. Just as the blade comes down, the scene cuts to a poster for the next room.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Ooh! There'd also be one of those immersive horror experience rooms that are so popular these days.

'''STRONG SAD''': OK. Gotta logic this out.

''{Close-up of the vault door giving off a white flash}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Open the vault...

''{Cut to the timer showing five minutes}''

'''STRONG SAD''': ...before time runs out.

''{Cut to a red skeleton in a cage, pointing at something}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Skeleton's pointing at a clue.

''{Cut back to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Am I on the right track?

'''STRONG BAD''': Now, just reach in the toilet. I just want you to reach in the toilet.

'''STRONG SAD''': It's pointing at the toilet.

'''STRONG BAD''': It's full of poop.

'''STRONG SAD''': But that's just misdirection.

'''STRONG BAD''': I just want you to touch the poop.

'''STRONG SAD''': They want me to think I should reach in the toilet.

'''STRONG BAD''': No! I do want you to reach in the toilet! That is all that I want you to do!

'''STRONG SAD''': It's too easy.

'''STRONG BAD''': Touch the poop!

'''STRONG SAD''': But I know better!

'''STRONG BAD''': Touch the freakin' poop!

''{Strong Bad falls out of his chair}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Most horror stuff is pretty obvious.

''{The Ugly One is walking down the street}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Like, of course it's terrifying to get disemjowel'd with a lunatic with a machete.

''{A Teen Girl Squad version of Strong Sad pops up on the bottom right}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Machété!

'''STRONG BAD''': Shut up! But I think people are ready for the more subtle terror of...

''{Cut to Coach Z and Bubs standing in a room with torn pink striped wallpaper}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Two star bed and breakfast!

'''COACH Z''': It's somehow worse than if it only got one star!

'''BUBS''': Dry scrambled eggs? Questionable hairs on the antimacassar?

'''STRONG SAD''': Antimacassar!

'''BUBS''': Shut up!

'''COACH Z''': Failed terlet paper rose! What kind of inhuman monsters would run a place like this?

'''SHUT UP LADY''': Oh, it's so charming!

'''COACH Z AND BUBS''': Shut up, lady!

'''STRONG BAD''': Nowadays, everybody's tired of the same old evil clowns, undead cheerleaders, and all those bloody-eyed found footage children.

'''THE SAD GIRL''': Nine.

'''THE SAD BOY''': Sequels.

'''STRONG BAD''': But for my haunted house, I will unleash an entirely new horror icon! Say hello to the new face of terror! Large bean!

'''STRONG BAD''': Come on, anybody? Don't you think that Large Bean is unsettling?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': And next on our tour, if you'll all please gather around. Fill in all available space please. We have a prime specimen of large bean.

'''STRONG BAD''': Wait. What, what the crap is this?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Other varieties include, small bean.

'''STRONG BAD''': Stop it!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Extra large bean.

'''STRONG BAD''': This is not a science museum!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': And, of course my favorite... teenie weenie beanie.

'''STRONG BAD''': You do not call large bean 'teenie weenie beanie'!

'''STRONG SAD''': I sure hope they sell large bean plush dolls in the museum gift shop!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': I think you might be pleasantly surprised, young scholar!

'''STRONG BAD''': Shut up! Large bean will eat your soul! He'll eat all your souls!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Wow Strong Bad, the spooky shoes room really affected you this year, huh?

'''STRONG BAD''': I thought this was the scary shoes room?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, right. Close your eyes.

'''STRONG BAD''': Um... OK.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Open 'em. You're in the spooky shoes room now.

'''STRONG BAD''': Uh. You were right Strong Mad. This Halloween's not working.

'''NARRATOR''': When nights are chill and filled with doom, again will rise the cursed legume. So if you're out on Hallowe'en, beware the wrath of Largest Bean! Ah ha ha ha!

'''STRONG BAD''': See? This guy respects Large Bean.

'''NARRATOR''': I'm sorry Strong Bad. I... I can't get behind Large Bean.

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end, click on Coach Z.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{switching costumes every time he says all right}'' All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, now ladies!
:'''MARZIPAN:''' No.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{dejected}'' All right...

*At the end, click on Strong Bad.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad! You got it this year!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' What do I got?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Best Tropical Beetlejuice costume ever worn by man or beast!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' No! I'm- I'm Diamond Dave!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! ''{imitating David Lee Roth}'' HA-BO-DE-BO-DAH

*At the end, click on Homestar Runner.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'll be taking these Huggies and, uh... Whatever cash you got.
:'''BUBS:''' Son, you got a panty on your head.

*At the end, click on Bubs.
:'''BUBS:''' We'll be right back with more...stuff! ''{begins dancing, changing dance moves in rhythm with Homestar's singing}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{singing}'' Dooo de doo do do booo de doo do do!

*At the end, click on Strong Mad.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Mad, I really-really like your, hey Strong Mad-
:'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{The toon begins to play faster and a progress bar is shown, with it getting faster with every "Hup Up"}'' HUP UP! HUP UP! HUP UP!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I really like your skipping commercials costume.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' HUBOW!

*At the end, click on Pom Pom.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, so you're not dead, Pom Pom. That's pretty great. What's that guy's name again? Franklin? Spalding? Jon Voight? Maybe a little bit?

*At the end, click on The Poopsmith.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I WILL KILL HIM! ''{The Poopsmith raises his hands}'' If he doesn't put on some more clothes. ''Eugh.'' Molded plastic panties.

*At the end, click on The King of Town.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' King of Town, that is an actual costume, right? You didn't just get out of, what I can only assume, is a bath for you?
:'''KING OF TOWN:''' No; I mean something! I'm important!

*At the end, click on The Cheat.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, The Cheat. Aren't you worried that the KOT will try to eat you?
:'''KING OF TOWN:''' No, no, no, I'm more of a Cookie Puss man myself. Fudgie the whale always made me a little fudgie...
:'''STRONG BAD:''' You say no more word talk!

*At the end, click on Marzipan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan, I thought you dressed up as that guy a few years ago.
:'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, I dressed up as Prince that year.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right, right. The prince of pop.
:'''KING OF TOWN:''' No, the king of pop!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ohhh, the kid is not his son.

*At the end, click on the moon.
:''{cut to a shot with an orange inner frame and a white outer frame and a torn disposable coffee cup, dripping with coffee, and corn and pumpkin decor in the background}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' From the makers of Hot Jones and Hot Pooey, comes the Strong Mad Oyster Smoothie Breath Caked Armpit Latte! ''{A speech bubble forms from the cup, reading what the Announcer says}'' Oh my sweet Jennifer, there's no coming back from this one.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The name of this toon is based on [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], and a pun on the phrase, 'Trick or treat'.
*This the first Halloween toon Homsar appears without activating an Easter egg.
*This is the first Halloween toon not to include a main character other than Homsar (specifically, Pom Pom) outside the final scene.
*This is the first time Homestar [[I really like your costume|really liked someone's costume]] while correctly identifying it.
*This is the first Halloween toon that features a character switching costumes as well as a character switching costumes while still dressed as who they are supposed to be (specifically, Coach Z as André 3000 as each member of fictional band "The Love Below").

===Remarks===
*The King claims he doesn't know he can arrest people despite having placed Strong Bad under house arrest in [[Strong Badia the Free]].

===Goofs===
*In some scenes, the colors on Strong Bad's face switch sides.
*Sometime after being initially released, the toon was removed from the TV Time Toons Menu and the Main Page Messages.
*When Homestar is talking about the scary painting dad, part of the animation for his lip doesn't move as he talks.

===Inside References===
*In Pom Pom's Easter egg, Homestar makes references to the [[I Killed Pom Pom!|previous year's Halloween toon]], where he had "killed" Pom Pom by popping him. (Perhaps keeping with the theme, Pom Pom did not appear in the cartoon itself.)
*In Strong Mad's Easter egg, the song Homestar was singing first appeared in the teaser for this toon.
*Coach Z had considered dressing as André 3000 for Halloween in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*In Marzipan's Easter egg, Homestar references when she dressed up as Prince in [[Jibblies 2]].
*In Strong Bad's Easter egg, Homestar references when he dressed up as Beetlejuice in [[Jibblies 2]]. This is similar to how, in [[Happy Hallow-Day]], he mistook Strong Bad for "Evil Carmen Sandiego", when Strong Bad really dressed as Carmen Sandiego in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*The Knight is dressed as an Astropop, one of the treats available in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
**This is also the second time The Knight has been featured in a Halloween toon.
*The Strong Mad Oyster Smoothie Breath Caked Armpit Latte featured in the Easter Egg is another example of [[Real Live Foods]].
*The Armpit Latte is from the makers of Hot Jones and Hot Pooey, both of which previously appeared in [[A Decemberween Mackerel]], in a similar Easter egg.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Goodwill Industries|Goodwill Industries]] is an American nonprofit organization.
*[[Michael Jackson]] was a musician, known as the "King of Pop". Marzipan's mention of her dressing up as Prince connects towards Jackson, as they were rivals in the eighties.
**"The kid is not his son" references the Jackson song "[[Wikipedia:Billie Jean|Billie Jean]]", which was released in 1982 off his album ''Thriller''.
*As Strong Bad mentions found footage movies, the Sad Kids mention the sequel counts, which could be a reference to the found footage film franchise, ''[[Wikipedia:Paranormal Activity (film series)|Paranormal Activity]]''.
*The narrator at the end, as well as his rhyming cadence and the background organ music, is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:List of Haunted Mansion characters#Ghost Host|Ghost Host]] of Disney's [[Wikipedia:Haunted Mansion|Haunted Mansion]].
*The repeated "All right" in Coach Z's Easter egg references the song, [[Wikipedia:Hey Ya!|Hey Ya!]] by [[Wikipedia:Outkast|Outkast]].
*Although Homestar refers to actor Jon Voight in his listing of names for Wilson the volleyball, he was likely actually referring to the Voit sporting goods company, which makes various athletic equipment.
**Franklin and Spalding are also names of sporting goods companies.
*Cookie Puss, like Fudgie the Whale, is a mascot of the [[Wikipedia:Carvel|Carvel]] ice cream store chain.
*Bubs's Easter egg features two direct references to ''The Gong Show''.
**Chuck Barris, the host of the show and the inspiration for Bubs's costume, would always throw to commercial saying "We'll be right back with more...stuff!"
**The song Homestar hums is "Jumpin' at the Woodside", a Count Basie tune which was the theme song for ''Gong Show'' regular [[Wikipedia:Gene Gene the Dancing Machine|Gene Gene the Dancing Machine]].
*Strong Bad sets up a room where he wants Strong Sad to "logic out" the clues. This is based on [[Wikipedia:Race to Escape|Race to Escape]], a game show on [[Wikipedia:Science (TV network)|The Science Channel]].
*Strong Bad's haunted house is located just off [[Wikipedia:Interstate 20|I-20]], which runs right through [[Atlanta]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|ween15|swf=ween15|37790|youtube=uCNQsmpN-G8}}

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The House That Gave Sucky Tricks Costumes

AbdiViklas — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:38:13 GMT

AbdiViklas: Just a little sentence tweaking. Man, this is just like old times, huh?

[[Halloween Costumes|Costumes]] that the characters wore in [[The House That Gave Sucky Tricks]], Halloween 2015.

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Character !! Costume !! Explanation !! External Links
|-
| [[File:thecheatfudgie.png|150px|]] || [[The Cheat]] || Fudgie the Whale || Fudgie the Whale is the mascot for the [[Wikipedia:Carvel|Carvel]] chain of ice cream shops. Fudgie is one of Carvel's primary cake designs, and many cakes play off of his name and are written with "to a whale of a (blank)". || [[Wikipedia:Fudgie the Whale|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[File:strongbaddavidleeroth.png|150px]] || [[Strong Bad]] || David Lee Roth || David Lee Roth is a rock and roll singer who is most famous for being the original lead singer of the band [[Van Halen]]. Strong Bad's costume specifically depicts Roth's face on the cover of his 1986 solo album ''Eat 'Em and Smile'', which was Roth's first solo effort after being fired from Van Halen in 1985. || [[Wikipedia:David Lee Roth|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[File:HomestarRunnerH.I.McDunnough.png|150px|Homestar Runner As H.I. McDunnough]] || [[Homestar Runner]] || H.I. McDunnough || H. I. "Hi" McDunnough is a character played by [[Wikipedia:Nicolas Cage|Nicolas Cage]] in the 1987 Coen Brothers film ''[[Wikipedia:Raising Arizona|Raising Arizona]]''. Homestar's costume depicts a famous scene in the film where Hi robs a convenience store and steals diapers for a baby he and his wife Ed, played by Holly Hunter, kidnapped from a rich family. || [[Wikipedia:Raising Arizona|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[File:MarizpanCaptainEO.png|150px|Mazipan As Captain EO]] || [[Marzipan]] || Captain EO ||''Captain EO'' is a 3D science-fiction film that was directed by Francis Ford Coppola, executive produced by [[George Lucas]], and starred [[Michael Jackson]] as the title character. Captain EO and his crew travel to a dystopian planet, and use the power of music to bring peace and beauty. Debuting in 1986, the film has only been shown in [[Disney]] theme parks and was originally pulled from all of them in 1996. Following Jackson's death in 2009, the attraction returned, but as of Halloween 2015, it is only being shown at Walt Disney World.|| [[Wikipedia:Captain EO|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[File:kotpotatoes.png|150px]] || [[The King of Town]] || Devil's Tower Mashed Potatoes || The Devil's Tower was a mountain that appeared in the 1977 film ''[[Wikipedia:Close Encounters of the Third Kind|Close Encounters of the Third Kind]]''. During the course of the film, a replica of the mountain is built several times by electrician Roy Neary (Richard Dreyfuss), using several items including mashed potatoes.|| [[Wikipedia:Close Encounters of the Third Kind|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[File:poopsmithf-r.png|150px]] || [[The Poopsmith]] || Feyd-Rautha || Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen is a central character in the ''Dune'' series of novels created by Frank Herbert. The Poopsmith's costume depicts Feyd-Rautha as portrayed by [[Wikipedia:Sting (musician)|Sting]] in the [[Wikipedia:Dune (film)|1984 film adaptation of ''Dune'']]. || [[Wikipedia:Feyd-Rautha|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[File:homsarfidgit.png|150px]] || [[Homsar]] || Fidgit || Fidgit is one of a band of six dwarves who appear in the 1981 Terry Gilliam fantasy film ''[[Wikipedia:Time Bandits|Time Bandits]]''. The dwarves travel through time looking for treasure to steal. || [[Wikipedia:Time Bandits|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[File:sscameronfrye.png|150px]] || [[Strong Sad]] || Cameron Frye || Cameron Frye is a character played by [[Wikipedia:Alan Ruck|Alan Ruck]] in the 1986 film ''[[Wikipedia:Ferris Bueller's Day Off|Ferris Bueller's Day Off]]''. Despite being his best friend, Ferris describes Cameron as highly uptight, which is part of the reason why Ferris convinces Cameron to cut school with him.|| [[Wikipedia:Ferris Bueller's Day Off|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[Image:pompomwilson.png|150px]] || [[Pom Pom]] || Wilson || Wilson is the volleyball that Chuck Nolan, played by Tom Hanks, was left to talk to while stranded on a remote island in the film ''[[Wikipedia:Cast Away|Cast Away]]''. Wilson got his "face" when Chuck touched him with his bloody hand while sifting through the wreckage of his crashed airplane. Chuck later became closely attached to the ball, even apologizing to him as he was forced to leave Wilson behind after the ball fell off his makeshift raft. || [[Wikipedia:Cast Away|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[Image:coachzandre3000.png|150px]] || [[Coach Z]] || André 3000 || André 3000 is one half of the Atlanta-based hip hop duo [[Wikipedia:OutKast|OutKast]]. The six separate costumes Coach Z is seen sporting in the cartoon refer to the characters André played in music videos shot for singles released from ''The Love Below'', his portion of the 2003 double album that also featured ''Speakerboxxx'', a collection of original material from his OutKast partner Big Boi.|| [[Wikipedia:André 3000|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[Image:strongmadtivo.png|150px]] || [[Strong Mad]] || Tivo || TiVo is a digital video recording device that enables users to record and store programs on the device for future watching. Its logo, which is the basis of Strong Mad's costume, is a smiling television set with feet.|| [[Wikipedia:TiVo|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[Image:bubschuckbarris.png|150px]] || [[Bubs]] || Chuck Barris || Chuck Barris is a retired television producer who is famous for creating several popular game shows such as ''The Dating Game'' and ''The Newlywed Game''. One of his more famous creations was ''The Gong Show'', which he also hosted; Barris would often be seen wearing hats that covered his face and eyes while hosting and would always throw to commercial by telling the audience, "We'll be back with morrre STUFF, right after this!" || [[Wikipedia:Chuck Barris|Wikipedia Article]]
|-
| [[Image:knightastropop.png|150px]] || [[The Knight]] || Astro Pop || Astro Pops are cone shaped lollipops purposely designed to resemble rocketships. Originally launched in 1963 by a pair of astrophysicists, the candies were originally discontinued in 2004 but have since been revived.|| [[Wikipedia:Astro Pops|Wikipedia Article]]
|}

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[[Category: Halloween Costumes]]

Fish Eye Lens

AbdiViklas — Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:36:31 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Transcript */ "Ditty-o" sounds like it has several syncopations. But sewiously, folks, I think it's "yo" because of the duct-taped "yo" on the couch.

{{toonnav|Powered by The Cheat|fisheyelens|Crystal Fortress|The Cheat Theme Song}}

[[Image:Fish Eye Lens.png|thumb|right|220px|"Things are about to get bulbous!"]]

After five years, Strong Bad and Coach Z give the pyorple what they want!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, [[The Barbershop Trio]] (Easter egg), {{film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}} (Easter egg), {{film|The Cheat}} (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Friday, October 3, 2014

'''Running Time:''' 3:19

'''Page Title:''' Things are about to get...

== Transcript ==
''{The basement is dark. Strong Bad is asleep, half on the couch. Coach Z pops up from behind the couch.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{whispering loudly}'' Strong Bad! Strong Bad, wake up!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling}'' ...Blackthorne... ''{more mumbling}''

'''COACH Z:''' The people need your help!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{suddenly awake and upright}'' Wait, the ''who''?

'''COACH Z:''' I mean the pyorple!—

'''STRONG BAD:''' There you go!

'''COACH Z:''' —They need your help! It's been too long since they had a number one jam. They been scrapin' dope rhymes up off the kitchen floor, just to survive!

''{Music starts playing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{increasingly complaining tone of voice}'' Another number one jam? All right, I'll do it. ...For the pyorple.

''{Strong Bad jumps off the couch onto the floor as the scene transitions into a [[Powered by The Cheat]] music video.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Woke up this mornin' in a rap song video 
'''COACH Z:''' Can ya help me with my hip hop ditty, yo? 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, Coach Z, that all depends 
Can ya get ya green mittens on a fisheye lens? 

''{A synth bass plays two notes that resemble "Waughmp waughmp"}''

'''COACH Z:''' I'm sorry, did you just say, "Waughmp waughmp"? 

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! ''{smiling}'' And you know what that means: 

'''COACH Z:''' I don't!-- 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Things are about to get... bulbous. 

'''TOGETHER:''' Waughmp waughmp! 
I bought a fisheye lens 
And make a rap video 
With a couple of friends 
It goes, waughmp waughmp! 
All the ladies and mens 
They know everything is better 
With a fisheye lens 

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, that chorus wasn't kidding! Check out how cool my rap points look! 

'''STRONG BAD:''' With a fisheye lens, you don't need to know how to rap, or skateboard, or do ''anything'' well! 

Just put the camera on the ground 
And aim it up 
'''COACH Z:''' My kicks look huge 
And my crew looks tough 
'''STRONG BAD:''' We got bulbous hands 
'''COACH Z:''' And bulbous feet 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Turn your back to the camera 
'''TOGETHER:''' Shake those bulbous cheeks! 

'''COACH Z:''' Aw, look at that! I've got a considerable rear shelf! 

'''STRONG BAD:''' That makes me uncomfortable! 

'''TOGETHER:''' Waughmp waughmp! 
I bought a fisheye lens 
And make a rap video 
With a couple of friends 
It goes, waughmp waughmp! 
All the ladies and mens 
They know everything is better 
With a fisheye lens 

'''COACH Z:''' And once you use the fisheye 
Well, you just can't stap 
It used to be kind of expensive 
But then the price ''draeerrrrrrped'' 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting, words overlap each other}'' I jumped in slow motion 
Off the curb 
Without a skateboard 
That should look absurd 
But with my fisheye lens 
Hey, haven't ya heard? 
I got the moves so smooth 
Make ya mom say: 

'''YOUR MOM:''' Those are some exceptionally smooth moves! 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Coach Z! 
'''COACH Z:''' SB! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Whatcha got for me? 
'''COACH Z:''' I got the 
'''STRONG BAD:''' F! 
'''COACH Z:''' I! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' S! 
'''COACH Z:''' H! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' E! 
'''COACH Z:''' Y! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' E! Lens! 
'''COACH Z:''' Let's pretends I got ten girlfriends 
And make amends in my Benz 
With a fisheye lens 
It goes— 

'''TOGETHER:''' Waughmp waughmp! 
I bought a fisheye lens 
And make a rap videos 
With a couple of friends 
It goes, waughmp waughmp! 
All the ladies and mens 
They know everything is better 
With a fisheye lens 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, fisheye lens, I bet you could make even lame stuff look cool! 

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, yeah! 

'''STRONG BAD:''' What about ''{singing}'' tax papers? 

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, look at how cool those papes look! 

How about a pair of tan pants! 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooooh! Somebody say country dish towel! 
'''AUDIENCE''' and '''COACH Z:''' Country dish towel! 

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahem! I have an idea 
Of what we could try 
What happens if you point it 
At a real fish eye?

''{Homestar points the lens at a real fish. The video comes to a halt with a splat. Using crudely drawn software menus, a mouse cursor applies a twirl effect. The scene spins as if down the drain. Back in normal styles, Strong Bad, Coach Z, and Homestar appear in the basement dressed in old-timey Dixieland jazz band outfits. Strong Bad has a trumpet with plunger mute. Coach Z has a banjo. Homestar is holding a fishbowl with a dead fish floating in it. An SLR camera with a fisheye lens is submerged in the bowl. The music finishes in an old-timey flourish.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, man!

'''COACH Z:''' Aw, dag! What happened to the honeys?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bring back the fisheye! Homestar, you broke our rap song video!

'''COACH Z:''' You turned us into a Dixieland ''{drawn out}'' jazz band!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Why y'all gotta be dissin' on Dixieland? I think it's great! It's got several syncopations. ''{singing, brandishing his hat, and kicking his legs}'' Several syncopations—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww! 
'''COACH Z:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeehhorrrrrp!

''{Strong Bad and Coach Z throw their arms up and exit.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{continued}'' —Several syncopations! Several syncopations tonight!

''{Cut to a closeup on the fish bowl with a "waughmp waughmp" sound effect. The word "eND" appears over the fisheye lens.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on the "D" in "eND":
:'''ONE OF THE BARBERSHOP TRIO:''' Several syncopations tonight!
:''{The rest of the trio appears behind him.}''
:'''THE OTHER TWO IN THE TRIO:''' ''{overlapping}'' Several syncopations tonight!
:''{Whip-pan to Old-Timey Strong Bad. He has an old-timey movie camera with a fish roped to it. As he says "Waughmp waughmp", the word appears on top of him and then disperses in a cloud-like puff.}''
:'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Waughmp waughmp, I say! Waughmp waughmp! Everything ''is'' better with this pescatary oculation!
* Click on the dead fish:
:''{Strong Bad and The Cheat are sitting at [[Monosodium Dreams]]. The twirl effect is still visible on the screen.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! That was incredible!
:''{He begins babbling as if at a loss for words. He keeps babbling in rhythm. The Cheat pulls out his keyboard and drops a beat in time with the babbling. The rave lights come on.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapping himself}'' I'm buying you a pizzaaaaa!
:''{The music stops as he says "pizzaaaaa". A pizza falls from the ceiling and covers their heads. The Cheat makes a "da-ta-da!" fanfare noise.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Guess I can conjure ceiling pizzas now.

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
* A [[Wikipedia:fisheye lens|fisheye lens]] is an ultra wide-angle lens that produces strong visual distortion intended to create a wide panoramic or hemispherical image.
* A Benz is a [[Wikipedia:Mercedes-Benz|Mercedes-Benz]] automobile. Mercedes-Benz is a marketer of luxury vehicles, popular among the hip hop community.
* The form shown riding a skateboard is a [[Wikipedia:IRS_tax_forms#W-2|W-2 form]], which reports the earnings of and taxes withheld from a United States taxpayer, and was previously mentioned in [[Arcade Game]].
* [[Wikipedia:Dixieland|Dixieland]] is a style of jazz that originated from New Orleans during the early 20th century.
* [[Wikipedia:Syncopation|Syncopation]] is a musical term that means accenting beats that are normally not accented. It was commonly used to describe early jazz and ragtime music.

=== Trivia ===
* The animation menu options are "BLOATATE", "FORNGE", [[Lowercase i's|"PAXELiZE"]], "DISTORT", "MUFFLIN'", and [[Punkin Show|"PAINT DAUBZ"]].
* The "DISTORT" submenu options are "ELOAK", "PRIVET", "TWIRL", "ZAPPOS", "TENASCHE", and "RELUMP".

===Remarks===
* This toon has no "back" button.
* This is the first non-holiday themed content uploaded to the website since [[videography]], released October 5, 2009—just two days shy of five years apart.

===Goofs===
* In the Flash version, the sound of record pops and hiss from the Old-Timey Easter egg can still be heard at the beginning of the Easter egg in front of [[Monosodium Dreams]].

=== Inside References ===
[[Image:@StrongBadActual profile01.jpg|thumb|Everything is better with a fisheye lens!]]
[[Image:sketchbook_040826_themanybuttsofcoachz.png|thumb|"I've got a considerable rear shelf!"]]
* The current profile picture of the [[@StrongBadActual]] [[Twitter]] account was taken with a fisheye lens, and the toon was previously teased there in [[twitter:StrongBadActual/status/516039750138875904|a post on September 27, 2014]].
* The fisheye effect used in this toon is similar to one used in [[Rap Song]].
* This toon marks an instance of [[couch mumbling]].
* The song is referred to as a [[number one jam]].
* "Waughmp Waughmp" is an [[onomatopoeia]].
* Coach Z sometimes pronounces "video" as "[[Videro Games|videro]]".
* Coach Z's "considerable rear shelf" is derived from a [[Sketchbook]] entry, and was also seen in a similar form on the [[Stripèd Green Rabbit]] in [[New Boots]].
* Taxes and the W-2 form were previously mentioned in [[Arcade Game]].
* A few of Homestar's forms resemble some of his from [[Exaggerations]].
* When the fisheye lens is pointed at the real fish eye and the twirl effect is applied, one of the items in the software menu is "[[Punkin Show|paint daubz]]".
*[[Homestar]] is wearing [[pants]]. His Dixieland vest also has [[Lack of Visible Arms|arm holes]].
* Coach Z's line "What happened to the honeys?" is a reference to the end of one of [[Matt Chapman]]'s old rap songs, {{inlinecontentwarning|content warning|Adult language and themes}} [[thorax:mp3s/3-D_Booty.mp3|3-D Booty]].
* The Easter egg with Strong Bad and The Cheat at Monosodium Dreams is a callback to the ending of [[Everybody to the Limit]].

=== Real-World References ===
* ''[[Wikipedia:Blackthorne|Blackthorne]]'' is an action-platformer game for the [[Nintendo|Super Nintendo]].
* This toon is heavily influenced by the [[Wikipedia:Beastie Boys|Beastie Boys]]. Many of their music videos and publicity photos were shot using fisheye lenses. The music video for their song [[Wikipedia:Hold It Now, Hit It|Hold It Now, Hit It]] was the first to be shot entirely using a fisheye lens.
* During the music video, Homestar's body is a can of [[Wikipedia:Campbell Soup Company|Campbell's Soup]], which is probably a reference to that company's line of [http://www.campbellsoup.com/Products/Homestyle/All Homestyle soups].

==YouTube Version==
[[Image:Fisheye_YT_Thumnails.jpg|thumb|220px|"Don't look for these so much."]]
*After the end of the toon, a group of nine thumbnails appears, parodying YouTube's related video thumbnails. None of the "videos" shown in the thumbnails have been released as of yet. The contents of the thumbnails are as follows:

{| {{standardtable}}
|-
| Coach Z and [[Strong Sad]] dancing on the [[Race Track]] in [[outer space]] || A photograph of a CRT television displaying [[Wikipedia:Swordquest|''Swordquest: Earthworld'']]. The [[Videlectrix Guys]] appear in the lower-left corner, along with the caption "Joystick Wagglin' with [[Videlectrix]]" || Homestar and a peasant from [[Peasant's Quest Proposed Sequels|Peasant's Quest Online?]] standing in [[The Field]] with snow on the ground
|-
| A tiny Strong Bad walking up [[Senor Cardgage]]'s head || Homestar standing in an older style Field, with an orange laser beam in place of his head (which is now on the ground) || [[Puppet Homestar]] and [[Mike Chapman]] sitting in front of a curtain with a cup of [[coffee]]. The caption reads "COFFEE TOWN WITH HOMESTAR + MIKE, episode 6"
|-
| Strong Bad in front of a red-yellow gradient. In place of his legs are several more torsos that continue off the screen, some of which have extra arms, resembling a centipede || A small [[Bubs]] hovering over the [[Compé]]'s keyboard on Strong Bad's desk. Bubs is leaving a bouncy, dashed white line behind him, à la [[Where U Goin' 2?]] || [[Pom Pom]] peeking out of a stylized human brain
|}
*After the thumbnails, the Old-Timey Easter egg is shown, immediately followed by the "ceiling pizzas" Easter egg.

==See Also==
* The [[Fish Eye Lens Visuals|visuals]] for this video

== External Links ==
{{extlinks|fisheyelens|37753|youtube=rbvxlvSIIww}}

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Songs]]

Talk:Fish Eye Lens

AbdiViklas — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 15:01:51 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* These people draaerrrpped the baermb */

== YouTube fake thumbnails ==
[[Image:Fisheye_YT_Thumnails.jpg|thumb]]
This screenshot from the YouTube version has a bunch of fake thumbnails with scenes from non-existent toons on it.
--[[User:Kaze|Kaze]] 11:22, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

== Fisheye, fish eye ==

The title of the song is "Fish Eye Lens" (open), but the proper term is "fisheye lens" (closed). At first I thought it would be better to spell references to the actual lens open like the title, but when I put the link in to [[Wikipedia:fisheye lens|fisheye lens]], it became apparent that it would probably be better just to spell it correctly in our articles and fun facts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:22, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

== I ___ a fisheye lens ==

: ''I ___ a fisheye lens / And make a rap video with a couple of friends''

I originally transcribed it "I ''want'' a fisheye lens". An anonny just changed it to "bought". I can kind of hear it, but not really. Or maybe I can hear "brought" (with an "r"). Also, I'm not convinced it's "And" to start the second line. What say you? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
:I hear it as "bought". I also hear the "And" in there, too. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:00, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
::I definitely think "bought" is correct, but I don't think "And" is there. I think the line may be "A-make a rap video with a couple of friends", possibly as in "To make a rap video". {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}}
:::I considered "A-make a rap video" when I transcribed it, but it just seemed like a stretch. "''To'' make a rap video" makes the most sense, but I think it's definitely not "to". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:34, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
::::Definitely sounds like "BROUGHT a fish-eye lens TO make a rap video..." to me. - Steven
:::::I heard "bought". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

== What's a Dixieland? ==

Maybe it's somethign that's more commonplace in America but I've got no clue what that is? Can someone add it to the explanations? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 18:12, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Dixieland is a colloquial used to describe the american south, particularly before the Civil War.
[[User:MechaKingBubsGonzola|MechaKingBubsGonzola]] 3:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

*It's also a style of jazz music, sometimes referred to as Traditional or [[Wikipedia:Trad Jazz|"Trad" Jazz]].{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 20:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

== Videro ==

As noted in the inside references, Coach Z pronounces "video" as "[[Videro Games|videro]]" at least once. I definitely hear it in the second chorus. Probably the first chorus too. Try as I might, I do not hear it in the third chorus. The question is, assuming we can come to a consensus on when he says it, does it need to be noted in the transcript as well (and if so, what's the best format for that)? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:29, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
: I first noticed it when I watched the YouTube video with my headphones in the first verse, and I clearly hear it in all three (from Coach Z, not Strong Bad, of course.) I'm kinda-sorta certain that the third verse is videos/videros for whatever reason, which I notice is in the subtitles (don't ask me, I didn't do it), but the "R" I'm confident on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
:: Hmm, I can kind of hear "videos" on the third one, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

== Dixieland Costumes ==

I think it's time we added the Dixieland costumes from the end of the video to a costumes page. I'd do it myself but i'm not sure which exact page to added it to, how to input pictures and whether or not we also include some rap song images/costumes. --[[User:Happypasta|Happypasta]] 01:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
:You're looking for the pages listed on [[Other Costumes]]. For the images, take a screenshot of the toon and load it into your favorite image editor. Use the other images on the costumes pages as a guideline for how to crop the images. Save your images as PNG files. Use [[Special:Upload]] to upload them to the wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
::Done and Done! Thanks For your help! --[[User:Happypasta|Happypasta]] 16:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
:::No probalo! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:30, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

== These people draaerrrpped the baermb ==

Okay, I don't see the controversy I expected over this so... I guess I'll start it. When it gets to "but then the price draeerrrrrrped," this seems like a Real World Reference, perhaps to a particular song. I'm pretty positive that I've heard some early hip-hop song with the line "don't let the beat DROP" at which the beat is interrupted, etc. I leave it to someone with more time and knowledge than me to figure out whether that's Curtis Blow, Sugarhill Gang--or maybe even Beastie Boys? Of course we could also be getting into the territory of "it's just a hip-hop device common to lots of songs, and therefore not a specific reference." Just thought I'd start a conversation on it. Geez, I gotta figure out how to sign posts again—hang on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
:I found what I was thinking of—it was in fact in the Beastie Boys' [[Youtube:http://youtu.be/qORYO0atB6g?t=3m6s|"Intergalactic."]]{{inlinecontentwarning|content warning, I guess...|Adult language}} —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:01, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

== Syncopation ==

Is it just me, or does the "Several Syncopations toniiiight" that Homestar sings sound similar to "One" from A Chorus Line. Is this maybe a real world sufferance, or is it a common enough tune to not be attributed to anything. ... Then again, he does start doing a kick routine, which is common of that show. - Just a thought. DTS Oct 08, 2014 11:53pm CST

Talk:Fish Eye Lens

AbdiViklas — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 00:16:22 GMT

AbdiViklas: /**/These people draaerrrpped the baermb

[[Image:Fisheye_YT_Thumnails.jpg|thumb]]
This screenshot from the YouTube version has a bunch of fake thumbnails with scenes from non-existent toons on it.
--[[User:Kaze|Kaze]] 11:22, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

== Fisheye, fish eye ==

The title of the song is "Fish Eye Lens" (open), but the proper term is "fisheye lens" (closed). At first I thought it would be better to spell references to the actual lens open like the title, but when I put the link in to [[Wikipedia:fisheye lens|fisheye lens]], it became apparent that it would probably be better just to spell it correctly in our articles and fun facts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:22, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

== I ___ a fisheye lens ==

: ''I ___ a fisheye lens / And make a rap video with a couple of friends''

I originally transcribed it "I ''want'' a fisheye lens". An anonny just changed it to "bought". I can kind of hear it, but not really. Or maybe I can hear "brought" (with an "r"). Also, I'm not convinced it's "And" to start the second line. What say you? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
:I hear it as "bought". I also hear the "And" in there, too. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:00, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
::I definitely think "bought" is correct, but I don't think "And" is there. I think the line may be "A-make a rap video with a couple of friends", possibly as in "To make a rap video". {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}}
:::I considered "A-make a rap video" when I transcribed it, but it just seemed like a stretch. "''To'' make a rap video" makes the most sense, but I think it's definitely not "to". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:34, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
::::Definitely sounds like "BROUGHT a fish-eye lens TO make a rap video..." to me. - Steven
:::::I heard "bought". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

== What's a Dixieland? ==

Maybe it's somethign that's more commonplace in America but I've got no clue what that is? Can someone add it to the explanations? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 18:12, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Dixieland is a colloquial used to describe the american south, particularly before the Civil War.
[[User:MechaKingBubsGonzola|MechaKingBubsGonzola]] 3:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

*It's also a style of jazz music, sometimes referred to as Traditional or [[Wikipedia:Trad Jazz|"Trad" Jazz]].{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 20:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

== Videro ==

As noted in the inside references, Coach Z pronounces "video" as "[[Videro Games|videro]]" at least once. I definitely hear it in the second chorus. Probably the first chorus too. Try as I might, I do not hear it in the third chorus. The question is, assuming we can come to a consensus on when he says it, does it need to be noted in the transcript as well (and if so, what's the best format for that)? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:29, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
: I first noticed it when I watched the YouTube video with my headphones in the first verse, and I clearly hear it in all three (from Coach Z, not Strong Bad, of course.) I'm kinda-sorta certain that the third verse is videos/videros for whatever reason, which I notice is in the subtitles (don't ask me, I didn't do it), but the "R" I'm confident on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
:: Hmm, I can kind of hear "videos" on the third one, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

== Dixieland Costumes ==

I think it's time we added the Dixieland costumes from the end of the video to a costumes page. I'd do it myself but i'm not sure which exact page to added it to, how to input pictures and whether or not we also include some rap song images/costumes. --[[User:Happypasta|Happypasta]] 01:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
:You're looking for the pages listed on [[Other Costumes]]. For the images, take a screenshot of the toon and load it into your favorite image editor. Use the other images on the costumes pages as a guideline for how to crop the images. Save your images as PNG files. Use [[Special:Upload]] to upload them to the wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
::Done and Done! Thanks For your help! --[[User:Happypasta|Happypasta]] 16:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
:::No probalo! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:30, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

== These people draaerrrpped the baermb ==

Okay, I don't see the controversy I expected over this so... I guess I'll start it. When it gets to "but then the price draeerrrrrrped," this seems like a Real World Reference, perhaps to a particular song. I'm pretty positive that I've heard some early hip-hop song with the line "don't let the beat DROP" at which the beat is interrupted, etc. I leave it to someone with more time and knowledge than me to figure out whether that's Curtis Blow, Sugarhill Gang--or maybe even Beastie Boys? Of course we could also be getting into the territory of "it's just a hip-hop device common to lots of songs, and therefore not a specific reference." Just thought I'd start a conversation on it. Geez, I gotta figure out how to sign posts again—hang on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Yearbook Character Page

AbdiViklas — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:07:43 GMT

AbdiViklas: /**/718

{{featuredarticle}}
Odd. Even without the "www" the links worked for me. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:30, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
: I left him a message on his Talk page (he's been doing this to other pages). I don't know why he's wasting his time; the "www" is always optional. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:32, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
:: I've read that there can be problems with URLs that don't begin with www.WHATEVER or http://WHATEVER. Maybe he's having problems like that. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 23:02, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::Yeah, this sounds like it might be specific to a certain browser or something. Either way works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:22, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::This shouldn't be an issue anymore. What with the [[HRWiki:Projects#Introducing_a_new_Interwiki_link|new Interwiki links]] and all! --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipans book ==

Is it just me or is Marzipan reading the book backwards? Surely the way she is turning the pages would bring her to the front of the book, and the position of the title makes it unlikely to be a Japanese or other right to left reading culture book (edit: oops, forgot the siggy) [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:She is. It's noted on the page's fun facts. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 21:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:That's actually pretty common in cartoons, though I don't know why. I assume laziness has something to do with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
::Oh yeh, guess I was expecting it in remarks rather than goofs (an example of Marzipan's wierdness rather than a mix up) [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 22:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:::There is the remote explanation that the book is in a language where books go that way, and the title is misprinted. But it was probably just an animation goof. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hand Writing==

Hey, doesn't Strong Bad have another hand than the one he usually writes in here? [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 17:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Links: Why come so many? ==

So, there are a lot of links. Now, [[HRWiki:Standards]] says that there should be little to no links in a transcript. However, there are maybe two links per character page. This is problem, yeah? So, we could either '''a)''' move all links to the Fun Facts section '''b)''' move some links to the Fun Facts section and delete the obvious or unnecessary ones '''c)''' move some links to the Fun Facts section and keep the obvious or unnecessary ones '''d)''' delete all transcript links or '''e)''' leave the page alone, which would unfortunately go against the standards.

I vote '''B'''. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:''E''{{User:HAJ/sig}}
::What, are you talking about the links to the characters? Those are fine, since this is a special case (not a transcription of the spoken words in a toon, but a record of a written item). As such, there is no cast list, and this is the most logical way to link to all the characters. "No links in a transcript" mostly refers to linking running-gag pages and such. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::More specifically, it means "no links in dialogue". Links in stage directions and headings are perfectly fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== So who's yearbook is this, anyway? ==
Logically, judging by the characters' autographs, the yearbook belongs to some girl within the school. It's worth noting that the page was made in the very early stages of the site. Also, if you consider Strong Sad's statement that he'll never see her again, and the way that Homestar Runner wrote all nervously... my guess is that it belongs to the Homeschool Winner. [[User:David Coppafeel|David Coppafeel]] 20:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds like a good [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum topic] to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

On the page, it doesn't say where you can find this little feature, no matter if it's on the site hidden somewhere, or if it on a DVD, or anything. Please explain where this is located and put it on the article page, please!
:See the external links section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== 718 ==

By the way, just explaining my inclusion of the phrase about hip-hop references to area code 718: My first thought was, "That's strange, the others are just 123 etc. Is there some significance to 718?" The fact that it's referenced in 8 or so songs and an album title seems "potentially" significant, given that [[hip hop]] has been known on occasion to appear in H*R works ... but not a clear enough situation for a "Real-World Reference." Yeah, it would make a lot more sense if attached to Coach Z. Hm. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:07, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

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Yearbook Character Page

AbdiViklas — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:18:44 GMT

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[[Image:Yearbook page.png|thumb|right|220px|School days daze]]
The '''Yearbook Character Page''' is a [[school]]-themed biography page. Selecting each picture brings up a short summary about the character.

There is an "autographs" portion of the yearbook where some of the characters have signed "your" book for you. Their traits are further emphasized by their comments and handwriting. Examples include Strong Sad's superb penmanship, as well as Pom Pom's phone numbers. It should be noted that Strong Mad can write, but spelling remains a hurdle.

This page marks the cementing of The Poopsmith as a core member of the group. [[Homsar]] is not in the yearbook since he was not considered a main character at the time.

'''Page Title (picture page):''' Yearbook

'''Page Title (autographs page):''' This year was the best!

'''Page Title (character pages):''' ''All character pages display the name of the character ([[#Goofs|exception]])''

==Transcript==
==='''{{Film|Bubs}}'''===
''{Bubs is standing in front of a silhouetted concession stand, throwing a can and kicking it back to his hand.}''
<blockquote>
Bubs is an entrepreneur, 
but he can't spell that, so 
let's just say he's awesome. 
He runs the concession stand 
down at the sports fields. 
That's why come he's so fat. 
He keeps eating all his profits. 
But then he goes out and 
dances all the pounds off at 
Disco Tech, where he attends 
night courses. In his spare time he has boring 
conversations with Coach Z and reads back issues 
of Motor Trend magazine.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|The Cheat}}'''===
''{The Cheat is standing in front of some blue spots. He narrows his eyes, shifts to both sides, and smiles, making his [[The Cheat's Gold Tooth|gold tooth]] gleam.}''
<blockquote>
Nobody knows what the Cheat 
is exactly or where he comes 
from but my guess is Space. He 
sure does like to cheat though. 
His personal motto, "No rule is 
solid" and his love of all that is 
untrue and incorrect keep him 
from accomplishing very much. 
He gladly does all the dirty work for the Brothers 
Strong, and nobody ever seems to blame the 
Cheat for what he done. I mean he's the Cheat. 
Come on. When all is said and done, and your 
grandkids live on Mars, the Cheat'll be doin alright.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|Coach Z}}'''===
''{Coach Z is standing in front of a silhouetted writing board and spinning a whistle with his hand.}''
<blockquote>
Coach Z is a crazy man from 
another country that sleeps 
in the locker room. He's also 
the best hope we've got for 
making it to state this year. 
The Coach knows how to 
get 110 percent out of 
Homestar and the rest of 
the team. He's the master 
of all the big sports. You know 
the ones I mean. The BIG ones. Coach also claims 
to have been a chart topping rapper back in his 
home country. We'll see about that.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|Homestar Runner}}'''===
''{Homestar is shown inside a blue star. He inhales, holds his breath, turns red and then blue, then exhales, panting for breath.}''
<blockquote>
This guy is everyone's best friend. 
He is 2 to 3 times better than 
the next best person in 
the world. That's why he 
wins everything and why 
everyone loves him so much. 
he can be pretty dumb, sure, 
but it's just cause he's so 
danged nice. His main man 
Pom-Pom is always there 
picking up the slack for him. Asked what his 
favorite season is, Homestar responded, "Sure." 
You can't beat that with a stick, can ya?
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|The King of Town}}'''===
''{The King of Town is standing in front of a silhouetted tower. He falls asleep, wakes up, and his crown jumps a little.}''
<blockquote>
The King of Town is the elder 
statesman of [[Free Country, USA|Free Country 
USA]]. He doesn't really do 
anything other than [[The King of Town's Food|eat]] and 
sleep. Come to think of it, he 
doesn't even sleep. He only 
eats. And talks about eating. 
His reign as king dates back 
to before any of you were 
born, so don't worry about it. 
Also, he employs The Poopsmith for reasons 
no one is sure of, and he has a [[The King of Town's Sheep|flock of sheep]], 
also for reasons no one is sure of. Weird old man.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|Marzipan}}'''===
''{Marzipan is standing in front of several yellow flowers. She is holding a book, flipping a page and jumping a little.}''
<blockquote>
Marzipan is [[Homestar Runner and Marzipan's Relationship|Homestar's 
girlfriend]]. No wait, she's not. 
Or she is, but don't tell her I 
said that. Anyway, Marzi can 
often be seen swimming with 
the dolphins in the swampy 
marsh or tending to her 
substantial herd of [[goats]]. Other 
hobbies include: BBQing, fencing, 
songwriting and oil painting (many of her 
paintings are laden with symbolic images). I think 
Strong Bad put it best when he described her as 
'a dirty hippie...without the dirt'.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|Pom Pom}}'''===
''{Pom Pom is standing in front of a large blue spot. He points in one direction, winks, and repeats in the other direction.}''
<blockquote>
Pom Pom is a pom, which 
means he comes from The 
[[Pom Pom, Too|Isle of Pom]], where all [[Pom Pom's girls|27 
of his girlfriends]] live. He's 
Homestar's best friend for 
sure and for true. His IQ is 
off the charts as is his 
attendance. His sharp wits 
often get ol' Homestar out of some pretty tight 
jams. I don't mean to call Homestar stupid or 
nothin but sometimes his excessive niceness 
can cloud his better judgement. And Pom Pom's 
always there to turn that cloud upside down.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|The Poopsmith}}'''===
''{The Poopsmith is standing in front of a silhouetted pile of [[whatsit]]. He blows a bubble gum bubble, which then pops.}''
<blockquote>
Here's what we know about the 
Poopsmith currently: 
He shovels crap for the King of 
Town. And he smells really bad. 
And that's it. Everything else 
is a mystery. Like what are 
those stains on his gloves? 
And how come he smells so 
bad? Homestar thinks he could be 
over 1,000 years old. And Strong Bad says he has 
[[For Brains|crap for brains]]. But he's been calling everybody 
'crap for brains' lately so I wouldn't give that one 
too much thought.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|Strong Bad}}'''===
''{Strong Bad is standing in front of a yellow explosion. He lifts his arms, looks up, and begins to shake his arms while the background flashes a few times.}''
<blockquote>
"I cannot tell a lie. You are so 
stupid." That's our Strong Bad, 
always charmingly irreverent, 
always a big jerk. He tries so 
hard to be lowdown and 
rotten but usually ends up 
being hilarious and in last 
place. With the help of his 
brother Strong Mad and their little 
yellow thing the Cheat, Strong Bad does everything 
he can to ruin Homestar's day, despite their 
one-time plans to get matching tattoos. All in all, 
Strong Bad will spit in your food and ask for a bite.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|Strong Mad}}'''===
''{Strong Mad's face and upper body are seen inside a large M. He is inhaling and exhaling while slowly falling asleep. He drools on himself and wakes up again.}''
<blockquote>
If anyone is truly a big lug, 
Strong Mad is. This guy is 
dumb and strong, and that's 
pretty much the definition of 
a lug. One time, his brother 
Strong Bad asked him to pick 
up this one car. And so he did, 
but it was the wrong car. See? 
Dumb and strong. He'll do just 
about anything Strong Bad 
tells him to do. One time, he asked him to pick up 
this one car... oh wait, already said that one. Strong 
Mad and the Cheat are best friends. Hi-Five.
</blockquote>

==='''{{Film|Strong Sad}}'''===
''{Strong Sad is standing in front of a big teardrop. He rubs his eye with his finger and sighs.}''
<blockquote>
Strong Sad is a depressing lump. 
A fat, gray, [[Soolnds|elephant-footed]] 
depressing lump. But look at 
how cute he is. Awww. His 
brothers Strong Bad and 
Mad disowned him a while 
back because he refused to 
help them cheat. Plus they 
thought he was a total drag. 
Pretty much everybody thinks 
he's a total drag. But Homestar and the gang still 
love him even though he tends to worry too much 
and bring everybody down... and be a total drag.
</blockquote>

==='''Autographs'''===
<table border="0">
<tr>
<td valign="top" width="33%">
*Pom Pom:
<blockquote>
Sup! Wish we coulda 
got to know each 
other better this year. 
You're super-cute!! 
Gimme a call this 
summer. 
- Pom Pom 
home: (123) 456-7890 
[[Cell Phones|cell]]: (123) 555-8307 
pgr: (718) 555-1059
</blockquote>
*Strong Sad:
<blockquote>
I sat behind you 
all year, but you 
never noticed me. 
Now I'll probably 
never see you again. 
Oh well. 
-Strong Sad
</blockquote>
</td>
<td valign="top" width="33%">
*Marzipan:
<blockquote>
Stay sweet!! 
Don't eat meat! 
Kisses, 
Marzipan
</blockquote>
*Coach Z:
<blockquote>
You've got such 
great hustle. 
Keep 'er goin'. 
-Coach Z
</blockquote>
*Strong Mad:
<blockquote>
<strike>Srtong Med</strike> 
<strike>Strng Man</strike> 
<strike>String Mad</strike> 
SM.
</blockquote>
</td>
<td valign="top" width="33%">
*Strong Bad:
<blockquote>
Loser, 
you smell! Ha ha! 
No really, RHTS. 
-Strong 
Bad
</blockquote>
*Homestar Runner:
<blockquote>
Well, here we 
are... I dunno 
what to say. 
Um... see you 
tomorrow. 
Homestar 
Runner 
"2000"
</blockquote>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*In Strong Bad's autograph, "RHTS" is an acronym popular in yearbooks of bygone decades, and stands for "Raise Hell This Summer", or "Rock Hard This Summer".

===Trivia===
*On Marzipan's page, she's reading a book called "The Chronology of Moths".
*Strong Bad's handwriting is in a different [[font]] than usual. Usually, it is in AhnbergHand.
*Bubs stands in front of a silhouetted [[Bubs' Concession Stand|concession stand]].
*The area code of Pom Pom's pager, [[Wikipedia:Area code 718|718]], is located in New York City and is referenced in several hip-hop works. There is no "123" area code in North America.

===Remarks===
*Although the word "[[Integral Article|the]]" is considered part of The Cheat's name here, it is not capitalized like it usually is.
*The old pop-up menu appears on all the pages of the yearbook (at the bottom). All the buttons still work. Only these pages, [[A Jorb Well Done]], [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]], [[Broken Tandy Menu]], the Strong Bad Email Vacation Menu, and [[Where's The Cheat?]] seem to still have it.
*The Cheat being from [[Outer Space|space]] isn't very well supported in any cartoon.
**In the email [[flashback]], Strong Bad believes The Cheat is from a giant [[egg]] filled with a life-time supply of fish sticks.
*Strng Man is one letter away from [[Strong Man]], the [[Old-Timey]] Strong Mad.
*Disco Tech is a homonym for the French word "discothèque", meaning "dance club".
*The bits of bubble gum on The Poopsmith's page fly off the actual page, beyond the boundaries of the book.

===Goofs===
*Unless she's reading the book backwards or it's written in a right-to-left language, Marzipan turns the pages of her book in the wrong direction.
*Coach Z's page has the title "Coach z", with the uncapitalized "z".

===Inside References===
*On Bubs' page, he is throwing around the [[Can of Water Soup|can]] from "[[Kick the Can]]".
*Bubs' page also mentions the [[The Athletic Field|sports fields]].

===Fast Forward===
*Strong Mad's picture and some of the text is what he turns into in [[virus]].
*Homestar has a much easier time holding his breath here in the yearbook than he does in [[Halloween Fairstival]], when Strong Bad pays him to stop breathing.
*On the [[Homestar Quiz]], one of the questions is "where does Bubs attend night classes?", with the answer being "Disco Tech". When The Brothers Chaps updated the [[Characters]] page, they didn't update the quiz, meaning the answer isn't linked to from anywhere on the site.
**In the email [[rated]], however, Bubs wears a Disco Tech sweatshirt while posing as Strong Bad's son.
*The statement that says Coach Z sleeps in his [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker room]] is revisited in the Character Videos, when he tells the camera he would usually "crash on [that] bench right [there]." However, he is shown crashing in a locker during [[Decemberween Short Shorts]].
*Coach Z being mentioned to get the "110 Percent" out of the team was revisited on the title of [[Coach Z's 110%]].

==External links==
* [[HR:yearbook.html|view the Yearbook menu]]
* [[HR:yearbook.swf|view the Yearbook Flash file]]
<table width="100%">
<td width="50%" valign="top">
* View the pages for various characters:
**[[HR:yearbookb.html|Bubs]]
**[[HR:yearbookc.html|The Cheat]]
**[[HR:yearbookcz.html|Coach Z]]
**[[HR:yearbookhs.html|Homestar Runner]]
**[[HR:yearbookkt.html|The King of Town]]
**[[HR:yearbookm.html|Marzipan]]
**[[HR:yearbookpp.html|Pom Pom]]
**[[HR:yearbookps.html|The Poopsmith]]
**[[HR:yearbooksb.html|Strong Bad]]
**[[HR:yearbooksm.html|Strong Mad]]
**[[HR:yearbookss.html|Strong Sad]]
</td>
<td width="50%" valign="top">
* View the Flash files for various characters:
**[[HR:yearbookb.swf|Bubs]]
**[[HR:yearbookc.swf|The Cheat]]
**[[HR:yearbookcz.swf|Coach Z]]
**[[HR:yearbookhs.swf|Homestar Runner]]
**[[HR:yearbookkt.swf|The King of Town]]
**[[HR:yearbookm.swf|Marzipan]]
**[[HR:yearbookpp.swf|Pom Pom]]
**[[HR:yearbookps.swf|The Poopsmith]]
**[[HR:yearbooksb.swf|Strong Bad]]
**[[HR:yearbooksm.swf|Strong Mad]]
**[[HR:yearbookss.swf|Strong Sad]]
</td></table>
* [[HR:autographs.html|View the character autographs]]
* [[HR:autographs.swf|View the Flash file for character autographs]]

{{start box}}
{{Succession box | before = [[Old Characters Page]]| title = [[Characters]] Navigation | years = 2000—2003 | after = [[Character Videos]]}}
{{end box}}

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Soap Box Doiby

AbdiViklas — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:52:10 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Fun Facts */ horse shows and ham parades

<blockquote>Just uncovered this soap box derby cartoon that we never finished writing. Just re-read it and it holds up pretty well. Enjoy it twice if you would. –Brother Mike</blockquote>

This draft was released as a wiki exclusive. All formatting has been preserved, except that some bold text has been added to help with readability.

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'''Released:''' Wednesday, September 8, 2010

'''Character key (in order of appearance):'''
*'''anncr:''' [[The Announcer]]
*'''kot:''' [[The King of Town]]
*'''hs:''' [[Homestar Runner]]
*'''bubs:''' [[Bubs]]
*'''cz:''' [[Coach Z]]
*'''pp:''' [[Pom Pom]]
*'''sb:''' [[Strong Bad]]
*'''ss:''' [[Strong Sad]]
*'''sm:''' [[Strong Mad]]
*[[The Cheat]] (or maybe [[The Goblin]])
*[[Fat Bluebird]]
*[[Marzipan]]

==Draft==
'''Soap Box Doiby Cartoon'''

'''anncr:''' are you kidding me? it's the big soap box doiby downhill challenge!! 
(credits) 
'''anncr:''' welcome back. joining me today is that ____, that mound of monarch, the king of town!

'''kot:''' thank you, walter. i must say, i'm very excited to eat some soap today.

'''anncr:''' yes, yes. not my name and not what we're doing here. and here come our racers now!

(cut to racers: bubs, cz, team strong, homestar and pom pom)

'''hs:''' ok pom pom i got it. our team will be called 'the awesome doing homestars.' that makes sense, doesn't it? and thanks for letting me be the driver. you can be my pit crew, or maybe my adoring fans.(brief pause) hey there sport, you need an autograph?

(he starts to sign pom pom)

'''pp:''' bubble de dubble

'''hs:''' what?! you built your own racer and you don't want my autograph! that sickens me. if i didn't have an iron tummy i'd prob'ly be chucking up all over everywhere right now. (pan down to see pom pom's racer. it looks crappy) pfff! is that your racer? looks like a cow built it. good luck trying to win in that...

'''pp:''' bubble

'''hs:''' oh, that's mine. so, where's yours?(pan over to pom-pom's kick-assing racer) dang. that looks like several very smart cows built it. but LOOKS only count in horse shows and ham parades, right homestar? right!

(homestar walks off. we follow him. he walks past the brothers strong and we stay with them)

'''sb:''' are you ready?

'''ss:''' no.

'''sb:''' i mean are you RRRRRRREADY??!!

'''ss:''' nnnnno.

'''sb:''' c'mon double s. get pumped. we're doing this race together. together for heather.

'''ss:''' who's heather?

'''sb:''' i dunno. it doesn't matter. we're a family and we're gonna all pile on this cookie sheet and go careening down this hill at breakneck speed like only guys that once shared a bathtub can.

'''sm:''' you creepin me out!!

'''ss:''' yeah, you creepin me out too.

'''sb:''' i'm trying to keep this family together! this doiby is what being a family is all about! together for heather!

'''ss:''' who's...

'''sb:''' breakneck speed!!

(cut to cz in his locker-racer)

'''cz'''(talking offscreen): if i could only find a way to power this thing with b.o., then i think i'd be a force to be reckoned with. whattaya think you're chances are, bubsio andretti?

(pan over to bubs. he is in the gremlin)

'''bubs:''' i'd feel a lot better if i could've found a gas station around here. and a front left tire. (the cheat(or maybe the goblin) is holding up the front left of the gremlin.)

back to anouncer

'''anncr:''' this year's field is one of the deepest in recent years, wouldn't you agree?

'''kot:''' yes, i also prefer to eat the raw ingredients of cake separately and let them mix in my stomach. gives my skin that ashy glow.

'''anncr:''' disgusting! now the moment we've all been waiting for...on your marks...get set...fat bluebird, give us the signal!

(fat bluebird squawks)

'''anncr:''' and they're off! homestar and pom pom jump out in the lead positions.

'''hs:''' you're going down fat boy. (he shakes a box of thumbtacks, showing pom pom) and if you think i'm gonna share my afterschool snack, you're dead wrong. (homestar downs all the thumbtacks)

cut to the brothers strong. strong sad is laying down on the skateboard and strong bad and strong mad are piled on top.

'''ss:''' why are we just sittin here?? what happened to breakneck speed?

'''sb:''' stick together! we're never gonna win this doiby if we don't act as one! act as one for heather! strong mad, go get a running start.(silouette view of strong mad hopping off, getting a running start, and leaping onto the skateboard. they finally start going)

'''ss:''' ooooohhh! my spine just got cracked for heather!!!

'''sb:''' they don't call it breakneck speed for nuthin!

(footage, wideshots, silhouette shots of the race. overtop of that the announcer talks)

'''anncr:''' holy crackers! this is sporting drama at its finest! (fi-NEST)

'''kot:''' thank you walter. ya know, if i was racing i'd eat myself into a giant wheel of cheese and roll down the hill like a runaway cheddar.

'''anncr:''' that would be a sight to behold! (BE-hold)

(cut to the king of town who has, of course, eaten himself into a wheel of cheese)

'''kot:''' mind giving me a push?

(cut to bubs and cz duking it out)

Bubs and Coach Z run each other off course in a fiery catastrophe. Homestar and Pom Pom fight each other to the end, but Marzipan zips by them at the end in some kinda vegetable powered somethin-er-other.
The Brothers Strong end up dead last, but Strong Bad is convinced he held the family together.

==Fun Facts==
*The title features [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]].
*The King of Town is excited to [[Eating Non-Food Items|eat some soap]]. Homestar likewise eats some thumbtacks.
*Coach Z refers to Bubs as [[Wikipedia:Mario Andretti|Bubsio Andretti]].
*The King of Town riding in a wheel of [[cheese]] downhill is based on a [[Wikipedia:Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake|real event held every year in Glouchester, UK]].
*Homestar's comment, "looks only count in horse shows and ham parades," is similar to the expression "close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades."
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==External Links==
*[[Forum:16484|forum thread re: {{PAGENAME}}]]

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User talk:AbdiViklas

AbdiViklas — Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:40:42 GMT

AbdiViklas: /**/"The Web is Dead"—how's HRWiki doing?

=='''Explanatory note'''==
On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from '''notstrongorbad''' to '''AbdiViklas'''. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

==Toolbox==
For my use and whoever else finds it helpful:
*[[Wikipedia:List of XML and HTML character entity references|HTML character references]]
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thanks abdi--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 14:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Welcome! You've Got Mail ==
Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

=== Petition ===
We, the undersigned, do beleive it <strike>would be</strike> ''is'' very cool to see a [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] user page. ''Moreover, we sincerely thank ''notstrongorbad'' for writing such an amazing user page!'' (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC) ''KL''
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
*{{User:The Paper/sig}}
*{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}
*[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]
*— {{User:Lapper/sig}}
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=== Yay! ===
I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
::LOL. Nice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Can you help me? ==

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai
:     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; [[Help:Contents|Help]] is mostly on ''how'' to do things, [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] more on ''what'' to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at [[Help:Contents#Specific Help]]. 
:     But to answer your question: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in [[Talk:geddup noise|that email's Talk page]], and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into [[Template:STUFF/geddup noise|Stuff]], using the process described in [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference]] is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know. 
:     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in [[do over]], there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible [[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29|Family Guy reference]]. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|continue the debate]]. 
:     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape. 
:     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on [[guitar]]. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Tha Lyrical Flow==
Hey, '''notstrongorbad''', just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the ''same time''? Can it be ''done''? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), ''no'' talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called '''grad school''' (imagine [[origins|jittery green text]] plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? '''No one knows when to come in.'''") 
:     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::'''nsob''', I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of [[Wikipedia:The Descendents|The Descendents]] and the [[Wikipedia:Dead Kennedys|Dead Kennedys]], so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in [[comic]] for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, ''much'' easier to deal with than an actual drummer.

:::For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, [[Wikipedia: The Alkaline Trio|The Alkaline Trio]], except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator ''so'' authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::'''Abdi''' - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., ''prima donnas''), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

:::::nice. just nice. next there'll be a guitar that gets hangovers and doesn't even ''show up'' for practice. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Heimstern responds! ==
Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==New name==
Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::That better? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw [[HRWiki:Changing username|Changing username]] after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from Schuminweb ==

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. [[User:Schuminweb|Schuminweb]] 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalization... It used to be so coooool... ==

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! ''{said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Rant re TGS 10 ==
''{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}'' 
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking [[Talk:geddup_noise#Rant_Re:_Reality|at length]]. I can feel it coming. 
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction ''within'' the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in [[comic]], it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices). 
     ''On the other hand'', several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—'''now'''—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself ''into'' the interior fiction, then causes his representation ''in that world'' to interact with its characters, then interacts ''himself'' across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees. 
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the ''first'' time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact '''not''' Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF nuances==
Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a ''huge'' problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC chatroom]] sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. How are ya? When there's more than one STUFF revision, it's not necessary for you to completely move your vote. You should just decline one revision and accept the other. (You could also decline more than one revision, should you choose.) When one of the votes is close, it's actually better if you don't remove yours from the list. The only thing that isn't currently allowed is for someone to ''accept'' more than one revision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you for the welcome. ==

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--[[user:Kookykman|The Kooky One]][[User talk:Kookykman|(talk)]] 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Note to Self ==

Cheat talk standardized through Puppet Time. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Pages that need serious work, or completion, if I (or anbody else for that matter) happen to be bored:'''
*[[Happy Trogday]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit Visuals]]
*[[Ballad of The Sneak#DVD Version]]

'''Issues to check in on from time to time:'''
*[[Mellow Mushroom/The Sun Almost Rises]]
*stripe-ed etc.
*teenage variations

== Duffrence ==

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

:If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read [[HRWiki:User space]]. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

:Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.

== slight mistake ==
Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto [[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82's]] talk page.—[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::None at all. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Dude... ==

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was ''our'' Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07!
--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/ fanstuff wiki]? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner
:Cool. Yeah, I ''used'' the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Five tildes makes the date? 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC) FIle that under "Things I Didn't Know About MediaWiki"! Anyhoo, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm somewhat active on Wikipedia, so I know my way around a wiki. I came here for a bit of fun ;) {{User:Thetorpedodog/SIG}} 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's how I separated my name from the date on my welcome template! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks AbdiViklas! (just so you know, I was the one who created the real-world references for DVD version on [[garage sale]], but if you look in recent changes it shows an IP) I realized you left me a welcome message on my talk page (I am on2see, I can't get Firefox to remember wiki cookies (any help appreciated)) Thanks again! [[User:On2see|On2see]]
:Glad you got a username! Now then—you mean you're having a problem staying logged in because Firefox won't use the cookies? (And by the way, brownie points and good karma to ya for using Firefox!) For me, if I go to the '''Tools''' menu, then '''Options''', then the '''Privacy''' tab, I find the controls for cookies. My settings are "allow sites to set cookies," "for the originating site only," and keep "til they expire," and it seems to work fine for me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I changed my settings, but now on some pages it shows I am logged in (ex. on the page that shows right after I log in) and, well, ''sometimes not...'' (ex. right now as I am editing your talk page, it shows my ip address and also says '''create an account or log in'''... But thanks for the quick response! You're my favorite Wikipedian (really!) Thanks, [[User:on2see|on2see]]
:::Thanks! But what you're experiencing is still odd, and it would be nice to get it tracked down. One other thing: when I sign in, I usually select the "remember me" checkbox (since I'm using my own computer in my own apartment); if I hadn't, I'd need to sign in each time I re-open my browser. If you're using a private computer you might try that. Beyond that, you'll need the help of those who know more about these superboxes than I do, to figure out why your cookies are crumbling. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad = Marzipan ==

Hey Abdi! Yeah, I originally heard the song say "Strong Bad ''is'' Marzipan" also... I, too, thought that was weirder than weird. So, you're not alone. Crapfully yours, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC) ''{comment continued in next thread}''

== T-shirt pitches==
Hey, as a theory type, I was just muddling over whether there were any rhyme or reason to the pitches selected for the t-shirts in the store? I was on the verge of doing a set analysis, but somehow my sense of perspective must have put in an unwonted appearance. I mean, it's probably just Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic--but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to accidentally fit some complicated explanation! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:I wondered that myself. For awhile, I thought it was a whole tone scale, but I found that wasn't correct. So, after reading your question, I decided to use my theory chops (and that neat little trick called absolute pitch) to find out what it is. Here's what I got: A-B-C#-D#-F#-G#-A#-C-C#-D-Eb-F-G-Bb. So, there are some whole-tone segments, but it's certainly not entirely whole tone. Not to mention that I swear a few of them are some kind of quarter tone. I can't really find any good pattern for it at all (if only it had been octatonic! A little Homestravinsky Runner!) Geez, the other, normal, non-music-nerd people on the Wiki are going to have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Anyway, that's the answer I've got for your question. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::LOL!! Homestravinsky Runner—''there's'' something for Fanstuff. (How 'bout what would have happened if, instead of They Might Be Giants, they had outsourced [[different town]] to, say, Philip Glass? "''Towanisqatsi'': You'll Think You're Pea-Buried Alive!") But I'm going with the "Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic" analysis. (Though more interesting—perhaps venturing into psychoacoustics?—would be what intervallic structure, invented or otherwise, may have subconsciously influenced his output?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know where this fits into the discussion, but I think they recorded the sound once and then modulated it up and/or down. Other than the pitch, the sound effect is uniform from one T-shirt to the next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hm—true. Which would actually make it ''more'' likely that the resulting pitches are intentional. Hm. On closer inspection (and note, we're talking about the lineup in [[Flash Store]] here), I hear the last pitches from D through G a half step higher than you (Bb I hear the same). If this were true, and it were reduced into prime form—crap, it still wouldn't be chromatic. I'm not taking the time to think through this very carefully, but I ''think'' prime form would be G#-A-A#-B-C-C#-D#-E-F#. This would be chromatic for the span of a perfect fourth and octatonic for another perfect fourth; there, that makes as good a sense as any. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::: "Rondleman is my D-S-C-H!" Abdi, that is, IMHO, ''at least'' as good as Homestravinsky Runner! You crack me up! Crack! me! up! As for the pitches, you may be right (one thing that was driving me crazy was that a lot of them sounded like they were between two semitones). It's as good a theory as any. This has to be one of the weirdest intersections of Homestar Runner addiction and music nerdiness ever to appear on the Wiki... it's awesome. Maybe I should suggest that the other Homestar fans at my department read this. They'd probably think I've been smoking something. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, in particular that D and/or D# for the TGS shirt. If we take that to be a D, it gets even cooler: chromatic G#-D, one tritone; whole-tone D-G# (by implication), the remaining tritone!! (And yes... there needs to be a Trogdorcon-style segment of Strong Bad making fun of anybody who'd do what we just did.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So, I just found out that I wasn't even looking at the same set of pitches as you. I didn't realize the T-shirt pitches even existed in the new store and was using the old store t-shirt pitches. So, there may be a bit of difference because of that (notably, the old store had more pitches). That being said, I'm a little busy reading ''Stravinsky and the Rite of Spring'' right now to make any comparisons between the collections (although Prof. van den Toorn might be pleased if I found some octatonic/diatonic intersections in the collections...) Anyway, as always, I remain, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:No, I realized we were talking about the [[Flash Store]] when you cited 14 pitches, and my comments above have been in connection to them. I would guess that, even ''if'' there was a musical motivation in their pitch-shifting decisions for the 14-shirt lineup, the pitches that exist in the current store are simply a result of which t-shirts have been dropped. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== arguments??? ==

I don't give arguments to back up my edits!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:Oh. If you're talking about my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stephen923&diff=175892&oldid=169416 post on your talk page] about [[pizzaz]], then no, I don't normally post to people's talk pages when I edit either. In this case, though, you had already made the edit and I had reverted it several times, so I thought explaining myself might have been better than reverting at each other in silence. Incidentally, since then, I noticed somebody else (I forget who, but I think a sysop) put a "sic" in an html comment (<nowiki></nowiki>), saying he didn't like seeing them in the transcript. So your edit was actually a good one (although we should still put it in a comment). Unfortunately—since you ''don't'' give arguments to back up your edits, even by using the "Summary:" box, all I could tell was that you didn't know what ''sic'' means. Perhaps next time an edit summary would be helpful. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, it's about the Marshie history page.--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
::I see. Still, [[HRWiki:Standards#Always use the Summary box|using the summary box]] is a good idea. (Actually, more than just a good idea.) If you make an edit, you probably have a reason for doing so; explaining that reason might make others less likely to revert it, or at least let them know you're making thoughtful edits and not just trolling. (Getting a user name helps in the same way; props in that regard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Um...was this suppossed to be for me? That's what it says...if this is about the edits I have made with no summary, it was because I accidentally clicked "save page" before putting in the summary. -[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::No no, sorry 'bout that; I confused the two "S" people who posted on my page today. I was talking to [[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]. (And you don't have to tell me about the perils of clicking "Save page" too early; I need to learn to use "Show preview" more often. Then I'd have fewer consecutive edits where I correct my own spelling or add periods. And less crushed spirits, too!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::::From the Marshie history page, ''(Reverted edit of 24.24.226.13, who perhaps will give us some argument to back up his edit, and changed back to last version by DorianGray)''--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:::::Yes, I know what you're talking about. My reply is four paragraphs above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ooooooops!!! ==

I guess I should have looked the word "pronunciation" up in a dictionary before i changed it...sorry about that!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:S'cool! By the way, if you're using Firefox (if you're not... '''do!'''), there's a nice plugin called DictionarySearch that lets you right click on a word and look it up instantly in a dictionary. (I also used Firefox's "keyword search" function on www.m-w.com's search box, so I can just type, say, "mw pronunciation" into the address bar and go straight to the definition. Just two more examples of why Life Is Better With Firefox!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks for the advese...advise. [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Verse ==

I'm cool with making that read like poetry. I just copied it from the WP article. But is it a poem? I thought it was just a saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:Again, I assume it was in German at first. I added the slash because it was the only thing I could figure the semicolon was thinking of. It ''is'' a rhyming couplet; although it's certainly not "a poem," a lot of folk wisdom sayings are expressed in rhyme. I think the fun fact could do just fine without the slash, though; just so long as there isn't a semicolon there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::I just figured whoever put the semicolon there did so because of all the commas before it, in an attempt to separate it. But the solidus is fine with me. By the way, it's "[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]." :) 06:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::?? I.e. if I'm going to drop the "It's" you'd prefer I capitalize the ''d''? But don't you prefer the "It's" be included anyway? (I was being a little informal in the summary; sorry!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... I think all would be best explained by a trip to the first line of my [[User:It's dot com|user page]] (although I was also partially rebelling against the one-word "dotcom" variety from the edit summary on the STUFF page). — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 06:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Welcome==
Hey AbdiViklas. I was just wondering how you are welcoming people with your user page instead of a welcome. It is obvious that you are doing it by accident. Do you use a sub page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I'm supposed to type ''<nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''. In a hurry, I often forget the ''/welcome'' part. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Why don't you just copy and paste it? Thats what I do, and it has been working pretty well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suppose I could. It's one step longer than ''subst'', but fool-proof! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I have been doing it 150 times. No problems yet! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

----

Thanks for the welcome. Almost as fast as we do at [http://furry.wikicities.com/ WikiFur] (and, truth be told, somewhat more polished ;-). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks! I know we've got at least one Furry enthusiast around here, [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]], although he hasn't been around much lately. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *chuckles* - yes, I know furrykef, he used to hang out with us in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicities #wikicities]. Been a fortnight since I've seen him - maybe he's gone on an online poker binge . . . [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sid and Marty Kroft Present: G.K. Chesterton ==

Abdi, because of you I now know of G.K. Chesterton. If I ever come across a "Father Brown" story, I'll know the truth - the truth embodied in a large, walrus-like British author/journalist. I now consider myself just that much richer in spirit. Next order of bwisness - determining the fate of Mayor McCheese. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Seriously. You should see me when I find out that there's some out-of-print story of his I haven't read! I do a little dance that certain NFL touchdowners have been known to refer to as "vulgar excess." So yeah, if you like detective stories, Father Brown is a great way to start (particularly ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/innocence/title.html The Blue Cross]'', but the best-known, and arguably best, piece of fiction he ever wrote is the novel ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/thursday/thursday.html The Man Who Was Thursday]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Losing the will to check the edits closely ==

I knew that would happen. Earlier today I had to force myself not just to hit the revert button, and actually examine the edit. Why won't this guy talk to us? On an unrelated note, I have, upon reflection, decided that compromise might be the best avenue for the New Boots/different town non-reference. It's too bad B left so quickly, before we could have a chance to really discuss it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Indeed, it's perplexing. I can't figure out whether he (or she, but he in the future for simplicity) is an extremely zealous, extremely well-meaning, extremely misguided individual, or a one-trick troll. Some of his edits really are improvements, like correcting something to reflect what SB really typed, but others seem to just add !s where there are few and take them away where there are many. But no, in the final analysis I think he must be well meaning. My only explanation for the silence is either that he's a true "gnome," who tries to do good but is shy and prefers anonymity, or that he's a user so new he hasn't discovered his own talk page or Recent changes, and is simply selecting emails at random. (Say—there isn't any kind of browsing setup that would keep someone from seeing the "new messages" banner, is there?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm confounded as well. My hunch was that he <s>or she</s> was never getting the message, hence my test on the sandbox, but I was able to receive my message to myself just fine as an anonny. And this guy's not even experiencing the weird IP changes I was, so that shouldn't be an issue. No, I think we're being ignored. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== On Trolling and other Isomorphisms... ==

Don't mind my nonsensical banter... I am currently (''not'') working on writing a statement of purpose for my fellowship application (properly read: ''avoiding it''). Don't ask when it's due, otherwise you'd be shocked. Anyway, I was thinking we should make up a section called ''[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=187594&oldid=187593 trolls post the dardnest things.]'' It would be a hit don't you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It would be ''hilarious''... but don't you think people would then ''try'' to get in it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, I'd read it. Several times. In fact, I'd print it and read it offline. Now I'm excited. I really hope this is able to be done ''somewhere''. I'd love helping this thing. Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::EDIT CONFLICT (or whatever): Yes, people trying to get in might be bad... Perhaps it'd be better to not broadcast the idea.
::I think they would want to get in. I admit that I've gotten an occasional guilty pleasure out of reading the ridiculous things trolls write (and I'm always thinking to myself, "This is vandalism! I'm not supposed to find this funny!") Anyway, it would just encourage trolls to keep vandalizing if they hoped to get featured somewhere on the Wiki. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm reminded, for some reason, of the Simpsons (or was it Futurama?) spoof of Bill Cosby's similarly titled show. What if this were done somewhere off-wiki? (I.e. on somebody's website or blog?) 
:Stux: What manner of beast is said fellowship application? It sounds like the sort of thing that carries high stakes. Me, all I have to do is transcribe some field notes and make some lesson plans, but I've been putting it off all day and so will stay up all night to make up (yeah, that's how I work). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:''(DorianGray): Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion.'' A hint of seriousness yes, an iota, I am not so sure ;). Unfortunately, yes, this could serve as an incentive. But have any of you guys ever read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense|Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense]] (or rather perused through it)? We'll always have trolls you know, just not as many as the big 'pedia, but even an increase might be 'enough'. As for the fellowship, it is a [http://was.nd.edu/gem/gemwebapp/public/gem_01_100.htm summer-work] type program that links you with industry and helps you pay for your grad school. I'm *finally* getting momentum, esp now that I found my grad school application essay and realized it will likely help me finish what i need to do! <insert *evil grin* here> :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I actually ''have'' gone through the Deleted Nonsense stuff on the big wiki. It's amazing... And I'm sure we have our fair share of weirdness... I know I've seen some. Now then. Back to the All Hallow's Eve toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::wow, i just looked at that page. hours of wierd things about evil squirrels and chocolate covered raisins......{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Note ==

It's not "What am I supposed to do?", but "What ''I'm'' supposed to do?". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oop. Thanks. That makes a little more sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or a little ''less'' sense, depending on how you look at it. I guess it makes more sense for Homestar. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==Solfège...==

Humming RE-MI-DO-DO-SOL, eh? What does that refer to? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/ Close Encounters of the Third Kind]''. Aliens contact Earth—and choose moveable do as the best method of communication. (Seriously—they even know the hand symbols!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::That would explain my lack of recognition. I haven't seen that film. And am not missing much, apparently, if it features moveable do. I really dislike moveable do. Talk atcha later. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::WHOA no you don't—knock moveable do and then just postpone the discussion!!! (For onlookers, this is what music nerds fight over. It's like which Elvish language is better.) And them '''is''' fightin' words. I'm not going to go into my rant on the subject at the moment, but it's very entertaining (as long as I don't break anything). On the other subject, you ought to see movie; if you like sci-fi it's a classic, but even if you don't it's a well-shaped movie for its time. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That's it, man! We are dueling to the death! A PLAGUE UPON MOVEABLE DO! No, just kidding. It's only a personal dislike, not a pedagogical philosophy or anything like that. But, since I have absolute pitch, I don't find it very useful. I prefer a system that always calls a C a C. I actually just use the German names of notes (since they're all monosyllables). I guess a lot of people find moveable do useful, but I was always annoyed that my teachers made me use it too when it isn't my ''modus operandi'' at all. Anyway, that's my philosophy. Talk to my man with the green and white stripes. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that ''is'' my objection to fixed do (one of them); as long as we're using these letters, it's simply a redundant system. If we were French it would be different, but at the moment we already have a system tied to absolute pitch. (Learning it for the purpose of international communication is a different matter; I have a Korean student whom I use it with since he grew up with it; but for sight-singing purposes it doesn't really bring anything new to the party, where as moveable brings an opportunity to engage tonality.) I guess, in pedagogical contexts, its supporters are putting a higher priority on developing absolute pitch than on developing sensitivity to tonal function. Personally, preferring a less eurocentric view of musics, I'm not as wed to a 12-note, octave-based, equal-tempered system as the be-all and end-all; I think training students to critically match a provided pitch is the most important. (I keep having dreams of writing a piece of ear training software with string instruments in mind that uses some midi controller with a slider—preferably emulating the physical instrument—to adjust the user's pitch to match a generated one, with visual representation on-screen and a little "you win!" message when it matches!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I suppose you're right, it's just that I've never used real fixed-do, just my German system (which I usually consider a variant on fixed-do). I don't really have any use for old do, re and mi except when singing ''The Sound of Music'' (which I don't really ever sing). For me, sightsinging is much easier with an absolute pitch system, so I sing "ah, ha, tseh, tseh, deh" (for the Glance motive from ''Tristan'') or whatever for whatever notes I need. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, for my own use, I prefer "moveable la." (Something we used to joke about in college—"La, la, la, la..." Not to mention moveable na, doot, and doo. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
''{conversation continued in next section...}''

Oh, something just came into my mind about this earlier today: About the first pronouncement I ever heard on the topic of moveable-do (or any kind of solfège) was from my fabulously musical mother, who bluntly told me, "Solfège is stupid." So, I was probably biased against it from the beginning, and that surely contributed to my bad attitude about it for the rest of time. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==...And the Absoluteness of Absolute Pitch==
I really don't have anything useful to add to this conversation, other than to say I understood it, and to agree with AbdiViklas, because moveable do makes way more sense in the sense of teaching singing within a key or when a particular key isn't important (I realize that's a strange concept to someone with perfect pitch (which I don't have, but I wish I did. I do have pretty good pitch memory, so if you ask me to sing an F, I can usually hit it or at least get within a half step, but I can't hear a note out of the blue and immediately say, Oh, that's an A-sharp)). I still, however, think both AbdiViklas and Heimstern Läufer are cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:And the sentiment is mutual. I have this weird thing that I've heard referred to as "acquired pitch"; i.e. from playing the violin so long I've developed pitch-identification ability within its range, but my skillz have an abrupt cutoff at the bottom note of the violin. Also, certain instrumental "voiceprints" completely throw me for a loop. I can ID a pitch on piano, flute, oboe, saxophone—but I'm pretty inconsistent with clarinet. And, frustratingly, the human voice! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I hear about people being able to identify pitches only on certain instruments all the time. I've never had that experience; to me, a pitch is a pitch, whatever instrument it is. I've actually often wondered what it would be like not to be able to identify and produce pitches at will, and I admit that it baffles me as much as it must baffle the normal people to know that I can do so. Oh, and Dot com, you may not want to wish you had absolute pitch. It's a really neat party trick, but it can be really frustrating. If someone starts singing a song in a key other than the original, it really grates on me. Then there's period-instrument recordings: while I certainly respect their intentions, I really can't listen to them because they play everything too low. So, those are the disadvantages of absolute pitch. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, now I don't have that problem. I can ''tell'' when something isn't aligned to a modern, Western, equal-temperament A-440 scale, but I don't suffer under it. After all, our selection of A-440 is so arbitrary (unless there's some kind of acoustic principle I don't know about, like the circumference of the earth divided by the distance to da mooon on the winter solstice equals A-440), and, although there are some mathematical arguments for our division of the octave, I prefer to engage the scale systems of other cultures on their own terms. Admittedly, it is a little hard for me to listen to a [[Wikipedia:Gamelan|Gamelan]] and remember that it's not just "out of tune," that they tuned it to those pitches just as carefully as I do, but if it's a 10-minute piece I get acclimated before long. The alternative is the colonial British attitude that dismissed the Carnatic system as a primitive "folk music" because their "poor intonation" was "indicative of a bad ear."
:::     And yeah, I played in Eastman's baroque ensemble for a couple of years (I didn't realize at first what a resource I had there, or who [http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=115 Paul O'Dette] was!), and it really throws you for a loop to play roughly an exact half step down. After the first 10 minutes of the rehearsal, though, I just get recalibrated into "Baroque mode." (But when listening to my prized [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm Freiburger] CDs, I still mentally identify what I'm hearing as a half step below what's written, and if I try to think about it it screws me up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Arbitrary A=400 is indeed, yet it is completely ingrained into my ear. I guess it wouldn't make a difference if the Baroque ensemble were playing a piece I didn't know, since I wouldn't know its real key (although it sounds odd to me to hear a Baroque piece in Db major, since that was a rather uncommon key during that era.) The biggest problem is anything well-known: if it's ''The Messiah'' or a Brandenburg concerto the lower pitch is just going to sound wrong to me. Ahistorical and arbitrary, but still part of my congnition. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, same here. I have the problem of kind of subconsciously imagining the physicality of the note, i.e. the fingering they're doing—which gets pretty funky in Db (or Gb!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Pitch (music)#Historical pitch standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Amen, hallelujah, preach it. Also http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1305.htm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Hi guys! I've been following this conversation for a while, and I figured I may have something to actually contribute: I have this vague recollection from my physics II class that the reason 440Hz is used is in part due to resonance qualities of the material. That is, that would be why we'd use 440Hz and not 439 or 441. (????) I'm trying to find out more about the subject, then again reading about [[Wikipedia:Pitch_%28music%29#Need_to_standardize_pitch|Pitch standardization]] suggests that I remembered it wrong, and that the resonance frequencies have to do with all the ''C'' frequencies being the same, and the pitch really IS arbitrary. (Apparently they tried to set A at 439 once but it being prime was really hard to reproduce). While reading i'm learning about such big phrases as [[Wikipedia:Fundamental_frequency|Fundamental_frequency]] and [[Wikipedia:Harmonic series (music)|Harmonic series]]. Hmmm, maybe I don't have anything to contribute... I like shiny things. (There, that's better!). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::But don't assume we ''really'' play at A-440 today. We had an Israeli/French/German conductor at Eastman who routinely tuned us to 442 or so. I hear it's fairly popular in Europe (but what do you expect from people who drink Warm Ones). I hear also there's some concern about pitch just continuing to rise "out of control" (see a [http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-January/001455.html response] to that concern). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! Did I just read that correctly? Fines by the Italian government for tuning forks outside of 440!? O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Proposed, proposed. And as I read more I'm getting very confused; I'm not sure what connection [[Wikipedia:Lyndon LaRouche|a guy]] who tried to run for president from jail has to the Italian senate, or whether any bill with his name on it would really be taken seriously. On the one hand, it must seem remarkable to the general onlooker that these music nerds are ''at'' each other's ''throats'' over a half-step, but on the other hand the whole "Slatkin serves Satan" thing and the absurdity of all these shenanigans are vaguely pleasing to me. They renew my faith that the "classical" music scene has not simply ossified into an arena for the performance of 18th-century works with 19th-century sensibilities amid 20th-century conventions of a darkened, hushed audience composed mainly of nursing home excursions and tobacco heiresses trying to assuage their inherited guilt by donating to a cause that is both ostensibly societally uplifting and effectually exclusivist. Rather, it offers hope that the sheer ''messiness'' we see in music history—with major composers' mud-slinging, name-calling, old-school/new-school ([[Wikipedia:Ars nova|Ars nova]], [[Wikipedia:Claudio Monteverdi|seconda practica]]), East-coast/West-coast-style invective, rampant rumors that certain [[Wikipedia:Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini|virtuosi]] ''did'' in fact "serve satan," and audiences that simultaneously awarded their [[Wikipedia:Farinelli|favorite vocalists]] with lives of fame, free love, and [http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/a/plate_ipa00014.html gratuitous jewelry] that rival any modern-day blingster, and then gossiped obliviously through the operas to the point that even their pet stars, when their arias came, had to come out to the edge of the stage, grab the spotlight, and gesticulate broadly to wrest their attention—is not dead. (If you didn't follow that sentence, leave out everything between the dashes.) In a way, it's almost a performance art of sorts; LaRouche, his critics, the respective governments, and the colorful, vicious, vivacious rhetoric form one big, societal piece of entertaining pageant—"reality opera," if you will! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hallrunner ==

Awesome job on [[Hallrunner]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I was bored, and using "random page" until I found something worth editing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==wiki defender thing...y==

Hey abdi, thanks for the trophy!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, dude! That's was awesome to see first thing in the morning! [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 19:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hey; that seemed to me to be the clearest example I've seen yet of what it was meant for. But you know, with a little extra effort it would have been chock full of Steak-umms! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks also from me. :) I didn't do much, but I appreciate it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And many ''mahalos'' from me too. I think that was the ultimate recognition I've always wanted on here... Thanks, man. And I'd just about had it with that trolling toaster. So I stepped in to fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hizzlary Hahn==

So I just got back from a Hilary Hahn concert. She stuck around afterwards to sign CDs; I cursed myself for not bringing mine, and for not bringing a camera. Can you imagine how a photo of me 'n' Hilary would look on my user page?! (If you're having trouble understanding the significant beautification that this would represent for my page, examine [http://www.hilaryhahn.com hilaryhahn.com].) You have to understand, she's like exactly my age; when I was 16 I bought her solo Bach CD simply because she was on the cover (and no, we're not talking about a [[Wikipedia:Lara St. John|Lara St. John]] cover; her eyebrow alone was enough to sell me), and have harbored a crush ever since. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:This may actually be the first time I've heard of anyone having a crush on a famous ''classical'' musician. I can't say I've ever had one of those myself. At least I'm glad to hear that not ''all'' the heartthrobs have to be no-talents like Britney Spears. Anyway, that's cool you got to see Hilary Hahn in concert; I hear she's great, although I haven't yet heard her myself. I probably don't listen to as much violin solo music as you do, since I'm a horn-player-turned-tenor. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::They say you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but if she plays half as hot as she looks, then you had an extremely enjoyable concertgoing evening, to put it mildly. You should have drawn a picture of her and handed it to her after the concert. She would have posted it on her website. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah, but she does, that's the marvel of it. Her strong suit is an absolute, impeccable, superhuman purity and perfection of tone and intonation. You could have a competition in which all the major violin supastars play only one note each, and she'd win, for her bow control. Others may have a tone that sounds perfect from 10 feet away, but then you could put it under a microscope and you'd find the tiniest jitter or bump in their sound and none in Hilary's. >>''Edit'': Wait, I just found an Amazon page that puts it well: "Her tone has the directness and intensity of a laser beam and the unblemished purity of fine-spun crystal." (That page, btw, is her own [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/580596/ref=ed_mus_mysh_qp_hahn_1/102-4070132-3504108 music recommendations]; the story of her convergence with [[Wikipedia:...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] is quite amusing.)<< That Her weakness is that her artistic persona and interpretations are fairly reserved, poised, collected, and cool. Not like she's a cold fish, or lacks emotive expression; she can bring it; but she's not all-over-the-place, blood-'n'-guts melodrama like [http://www.nadjasalernosonnenberg.com/ Nadja], and sometimes I want that. I'd actually prefer both artists for different pieces. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, Heimstern (can I call you Heimstern?), I played horn too! I'm immensely glad I chose it (due to its superiority over all the other brass instruments (I'll insert that qualifier there since this ''is'' AbdiViklas's page, and there's no need to be a bad guest here)), but the real reason I originally selected horn over trumpet is that this hot girl was also in the section. Another ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Yes, Dot com, please do call me Heimstern. I find it overly formal and awkward when people address me by both first name and surname (if those terms really apply to a pseudonym like "Heimstern Läufer"). I always did love the horn, and I picked it because I liked the instrument, not for any ulterior motives. (I also thought I'd have advantages finding the right notes because of absolute pitch.) Then came college and the teacher from the abyss. We were ''not'' meant for each other at all. So, I'm now a tenor. Let me tell you, the world of vocalists is ''miles'' away from the world of instrumentalists. Half of them seem to seriously believe that singing the right rhythm is optional. I've actually been working on a Schubert song, "Auf dem Strom", which features a horn part in addition to voice and piano. It has to be one of the most beautiful and heartrending songs ever written. It alone proves your point that the horn is the greatest of brass instruments, since no trumpet or tuba could ever be so lyrical and full of ''Sehnsucht''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 18:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::LOL—I had a tubist friend at Eastman who would be up in arms at that. Thanks to his friendship, I know far more about tubas, tuba rep, and where to buy tubas than I'll ever need to. I've also had the joy of hearing the last movement of the [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LWQH/qid=1132021791/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=classical Mendelssohn violin concerto] (listen to track 3) arranged for tuba!! "Bopbopbopbop ''boop'' boodeboop boop boop boop boop boop..." It's something like watching a hippo do a tap routine on a tightrope: astounding, but you wonder why it had to be done. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, tubists just exist in a completely alternate universe to us, anyway. My thought about them is the same thing all we tenors think about basses: "Why would anyone ''want'' to sing/play that low?" [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==I know I am not supposed to, but==

I need to talk again...
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you did it the right way this time. Forum ahoy! (Though I can't be much help; I'm leaving in half an hour for a big music teachers' convention.) There are plenty of smart folks over there, though, who can take my place. I will at least check up on your edits at the forum before I leave and when I get back Monday night. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey again, I sent a message to you in the forum, send a repply when you get the chance.
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==A telegrammaparcel==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Feel free to leave me an electronic message. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''
==Sweden??==
Judging by that message you posted on Sir Strong Bad's talk page, are you seriously from Sweden, or are you just saying that 'cause your name is Abdi'''Viklas'''? Because Sweden is totally my favorite country ever. Because I used to live in Sweden before we moved to Seattle. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, I'm no more from Sweden than [http://www.mclars.com/ MC Lars] is actually "[http://mclars.com/laptop_lyrics.html#stock Straight Outta Stockholm]." For what it's worth, I'm a hardcore fan of Swedish folk music, especially the group [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogArtist_01.asp?Action=Get&Artist_ID=45 Väsen]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::Never heard of it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Not an acceptable situation! Check out particularly their second US release, [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogAlbum_01.asp?Album_ID=101 Whirled] (even though it's from, like, '96, it's still their best single album). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I'll take a look at it. Thanks. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Hey there Abdiviklas, how have you been, i've noticed you mostly answer my questions in the discussion pages, lets get to konw each other:

1.Whats your real name?

2.What do you do for a living?

3.How did you get the name "AbdiViklas"?

4.How long have you been on Homestar runner wiki?

5.How did you find me?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, you can get some of the information you want from Abdi's [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]]. A person's user page is usually the best place to start if you want to know about a user. Hope that's helpful! (And, Abdi, hope you don't mind my butting in.) ''(grins sheepishly)'' [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not at all; I've been doing it a good bit myself recently! And he's right, Nikolce; my [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]] explains questions 3 and 4 pretty well. As for #1, I prefer not to use my real name on the internet if I can help it. And for #5, I found you by watching [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] and noticing the questions you were asking on discussion pages.
I have some questions for you, actually!
#How do you pronounce your name? With friends with international names, I like to at least make an effort to pronounce them correctly. I know it's hard to explain in writing, without being able to speak, but at least could you explain the "-ce" ending: does the "e" have much of a sound? If so, is it more of an "ey," like "hey," or "e" like "wet"? And what does the "c" do—a "s" sound, a "k" sound, or a "ch" sound?
#I think we're all a little confused about your gender. You mentioned that your name translates to "Nick," but [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] adressed you as a lady. (Here "Nick" is usually a guy's nickname, short for Nicholas; the female equivalent is "Nicole." I've never known a girl named "Nick," though I think I have heard of one who went by "Nicky."
#Umm... I guess I only had two questions, but a two-number list didn't seem like a real list. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:1. The way you say my name is would be like the same way to say Europian names: Nikolce Kocovski-Ne-kol-che Ko-cho-v-ske. 
:2.I'm male, its just that Nick is easier to say then Nikolce, I've never been called Nicholas or Nikky, but you can call me that if you wish. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== More Anagrams ==

Now look what you've done. That anagram thing you showed me is massively addicting. But there's one in particular I wanna share. "Strongbadia" can be arranged to spell "A brat's doing". Don't you love it when they work out and mean something relavent like that? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I personally think Strong Bad should abandon the "Prof. Tor Coolguy" moniker in favor of "Dr. Snot Bag". [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
::But who among us will agree that Strong Mad is "Most Grand"? Although Strong Bad would agree that Strong Sad "Drags Tons", I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Holy cow—what storm have I unleashed?? Those are supoib, guys. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== A Reply ==

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for caring. I appreciate it. [[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Don't mention it. In fact, it could be considered a school assignment, since I'm currently reading [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807746096/qid=1132443884/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 The Challenge to Care in Schools: An Alternative Approach to Education]. I find it a little alarming that the idea of giving a crap can be described as "an alternative approach," though in fairness it gets into way more than that. It's about creating a supportive classroom community that doesn't just announce the tenets of "character education" without really believing them, but models and values true... well, caring. Much more fun. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== On TOCs and other nuances ==

Hey Abdi! What's up? I wanted to brief you on TOC oddities since you asked about it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Coach_Z&diff=202369&oldid=202367 here]. Basically, what Mediawiki does is that it hides TOCs for pages with less than 3 titles (i think it's 3 at least), however there are special commands such as <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></code> that make the TOC be placed in that precise location and have the TOC always be hidden, respectively. I think that toc can make a TOC appear in short pages, but I think <code><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></code> might be more of what you need. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words This page] explains more in depth the different Magic Words available for use in the wiki. I hope this is helpful and informative! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Cool. I thought it had something to do with the titles, and added one at the top of the page (thinking the important thing was that the page start with one); that must have bumped it over three, since a TOC appeared. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jibney ==

Looking at Jibney's edit history, it looks like he's always been a little off-the-wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided he just wanted to start making gibberish edits here and there. But then again, it's also possible someone is trying to make him look bad. Any ideas? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think he was immitating president bush when he signed your guestbook. I think he just wants attention and wants it bad. My guess is that he either thought it would be ok to deface a vandal's ip user page, or it might even be his own and doesn't know he can't prove that it's his ip. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::'''(Edit conflict):''' Yeah; he ''has'' demonstrated an ability to write in at least semi-standard English (e.g. his last few responses on his user page). I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he has made legit article edits like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strongbadia&diff=prev&oldid=199670]. Remember several of our power users started out rough, with a block or two. ''{after edit conflict}'' ...and I would think it would be more in his interests to prove it's ''not'' his IP! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::''(I almost put this [[Talk:The_Brothers_Chaps%27_Fansite_Acknowledgements#Possession|in the wrong section]])'' Jibney claims to have been [[User:Timmy%21|Timmy]], who used to be a vandal. (Not a Visigoth) But yeah the changes are recent enough that it would be best that they are not his. But remember he doesn't have to explain that (innocent till proven guilty?), just explain his current actions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yep. And he also identifies himself as one Marshieman on the Fanstuff wiki, who apparently wore out his welcome there for general obnoxiousness in Aug and was blocked for a year. See [[User talk:Jibney#Hello, Marshieman.]]; apparently [[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] has some bad blood for him (see also [[User talk:Jibney#Heh heh...]]). Obviously he has his past, but I'd prefer to hold out hope whenever possible. A mentor orchestra teacher I know has several stories of kids that she would have paid money to get out of her class, who she didn't believe had ''any'' musical talent... who went on to attend conservatories and ultimately become music teachers themselves. Besides, unless blocks are made binding unilaterally across the wikis, he should be judged simply by what he does here.
::::To the best I can tell, neither [[User:Timmy!|Timmy]] nor [[User:Jibney|Jibney]] has ever been blocked here. The user Jibney was created, actually, at [[User:Kerrek_slaya|Kerrek_slaya]]'s suggestion when Timmy couldn't remember his password and didn't have an email address (see [[User_talk:66.169.119.137]]). And to avoid confusion, I strongly doubt that ''our'' [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]] has anything to do with him. His [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|edits]] consisted of a spree of obscene, offensive page moves roughly 5 hrs before Jibney's first edits. Timmy/Jibney's style tends to be at worst nonsensical or puerile and involve heavy AOLspeak. Jibney was created 5 hrs too late to give him an alibi, but I really don't think it's him. If I'm right, it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to make bad edits appear as his; the "Heh heh..." section of his talk page linked above seems to involve some such occurrence on fanstuff. Additionally, both here and on fanstuff, occasional runs of brazenly vandalistic and heavily misspelled edits have been made (e.g. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=185999], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186003], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186005], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186011]), which he has subsequently [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:66.169.119.137&diff=prev&oldid=186037 explained] as his little sister gaining access to his computer. Although Thatkidsam doubts his veracity rather sneeringly, compare the semiliterate raving of those edits to his explanation; although uncap.d, etc, it shows a different style. And the edit 2.5 hrs [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:boring_%28really%29&diff=prev&oldid=185897 before] the suspicious ones was even more prosaic. Bottom line: the guy makes things hard on himself through AOLspeak and impulsive editting that seems to make more sense to himself than to others, but I see in his saner edits the desire (or at least potential) to be a constructive member of the the wiki, and I'd prefer not to oppose that desire in anyone as long as it remains at the forefront. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow! That is the most thorough analysis of a user I have '''ever''' seen! I didn't even know how many colons to use to indent this thing! Oh yeah I should reply to this too shouldn't I? Well basically you've summed up Jibney's mystery into ... another mystery! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome template ==

Quick question: When I use '''<nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''' to greet new users, where does the template come from? Did the change you made to your Welcome template (with the Tour) also affect that tag? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. What you're using is [[Template:welcome]]; I took that and made a personalized version which I keep at [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome]], and that's what I editted. You can do the same if you want; you'd use the same code to implement it, but substitute its location for the word "welcome" (e.g. I type <nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if you think the tour should be added to the main welcome template itself, you could just add it there. If you decide to do that, however, it might be a good idea to announce your intentions on [[Template talk:welcome]] first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think it should be incorporated into [[HRWiki:Introduction]] first, and then the Introduction should be linked in the welcome template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==HTML Romanian codes==
For my own reference, and the curiosity of anyone who happens by, how to create some of the characters in the Romanian alphabet:
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! Upper case
! Lower case
! Upper case encoding
! Lower case encoding
! Notes
|-
| Ă
| ă
| &#258;
| &#259;
|  
|-
| Â
| â
| &#194;
| &#226;
|  
|-
| Î
| î
| &#206;
| &#238;
|  
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ș}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ș}}
| &#536;
| &#537;
| s with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ş
| ş
| &#350;
| &#351;
| s with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ț}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ț}}
| &#538;
| &#539;
| t with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ţ
| ţ
| &#354;
| &#355;
| t with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|}

Are you romanian Abdi? (Or of romanian descent?) My old roommate is Romanian. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope; no connection except that I went there two summers in a row with teams from my church. I tried to pick up a little language, but really had only an ornamental vocabulary (enough to say something in Romanian just so I'd be saying something in Romanian). I got myself into '''BIG''' trouble, evidently, when I tried to order a lemon Fanta (they have different flavors over there, many of which are awesome), and mispronounced the word for lemon. My hosts' eyes got ''really'' big and they turned bright red; when they regained the power of speech all they could manage was "Don't... ever... say that again...." Me: "Why, what? What did I say?" Them: "You... ''{pause}'' you don't want to know." To this day I don't know what word that sounded like!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol! Well if you transliterate (is that a word) what you wrote perhaps I can ask my old roommate this weekend. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The word was (and here I get a chance to use some of those characters above) "lămâjie"; that "a" with a circumflex, as I understood it, was supposed to be something like the "oo" of "wood" but closer to the "ou" of "would," a hint of the "oo" of "boot" creeping in. I way over-emphasized the latter, and then gave the final "e" too much of a Spanish "ey" sound—"luhmooyay." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL i'll see what I can do... I think I have enough to explain to him the word ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::So where your hosts like really mad or were they cracking up? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Either cracking up or kind of embarrassed or both, depending on their personality. (These were teenagers; the 15-yr-old guy thought it was the funniest event of the 21st century, though even he demurred to tell me what it meant; the shy girl looked like she thought it was funny and felt guilty for thinking so.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Not that this really relates to Romanian, although it does relate to language mix-ups and the current season: My favorite mistake in a German essay by an American student was "An Thanksgiving esse ich die Türkei", which means, "On Thanksgiving I eat Turkey" (i.e., the ''country'' of Turkey!) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL; I'm ''sure'' he tries. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ohhh it's possibly slang then. My old roommate moved from there when he was 8 and i don't know if he knows all the slang. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== A wery new electronic reply! ==

'''For Sir Viklas. Hi?'''

'''1. Prehaps! I'm've was to make football often times. Play? Know. Best football results twice again.'''

'''2. Every age I have seen out as a baby. I think I has the solution: width times height.'''

'''3. As a wery old, I can fathom the scene to be with me. Looking always as I ever did. It was not came's. He borrowed mine.'''

'''Okay, Viklas, one would certainly wish that would answer your questions. I do believe that we're on the same page. Unfortunately, yours has a large F on it.'''

'''— Sir Stark Dålig '''

==Marching Bands (not of Manhattan)==

I said "marching bands". Most schools near me have bands, but none I know have marching bands. I live in the same city as TBC. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's reassuring. And frankly, I'd rather they had a sit-down-an'-play-music band than a put-on-a-purple-thing-and-dance-around band. (Or better yet, how about Strings and Choral programs?) But seriously, I'd be very surprised if a city the size of Atlanta didn't have a fair number of HS marching bands. In fact, a cursory Googling reveals that [http://www.marching-band.net/news/ "The Official" Metro Atlanta Battle of the Bands] on Oct. 14, 2004 included bands from the following schools:
::Southwest DeKalb
::Morrow
::Redan
::Westlake
::Columbia
::Towers
::Mays
::Stephenson
::Martin Luther King
::Pebble Brook
::Cedar Grove
::Riverdale
::Lithonia
:However, cross-checking against the [http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/our_schools/schools_list/school_list1.html#high list of Atlanta public high schools] shows only Mays. What's the deal—the others are suburban schools with nice budgets? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woah, there's a actully a real school called Riverdale high? In those old Archie comics he's in riverdale high school, for those of you who don't know. That's awsome! {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 00:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC) PS: For some reason my sig isn't working on this page. Or my new x-mas themed one. Whats happening?
:::Man. Now [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=205706 my] User page is haunted! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Weird, man. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, problem fixed! Curse lifted :p. Binary Searches sure come in handy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::That Stux is a computer genius man! (Let's do a dance for the computer genius man.) Btw (not in the tone of trauma that would continue the quote), what did you do? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well it didn't involve shotguns that's for sure... If you check out this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=prev&oldid=206819 diff] you'll see that there were a few template inclusions that were not closed, making everything be template text. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Dances for the computer genius man* doo-doo! doo-doo! Thank you stux! you rule! Doo-doo!{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lovett and Westminster aren't on there because they're private schools. Fancy-shemancy. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I once again come to you asking for a favor! '''Stop'''

Might I trouble you for a photograph? '''Stop'''

Because you are being inducted into my honorary members gang! '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

'''PS: If possible, please make it a B/W photo. My telegramophone doesn't seem to handle the colored genre oh too well. Regards!'''

:I'd rather not use my real picture, for the same reason that I'd rather not use my real name. Also, I'm not actually Swedish (see [[#Sweden??|conversation above]]). But since I impersonated a Swedish prince on your talk page, I find it only fitting to use an [[Wikipedia:Image:Ducele_de_Halland.jpg|image of one]] to represent me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::I bet you are a hit with the ladies Mr. Swedish Prince. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Woah, that picture totally looks like me! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== GVBAoA ==

[[Image:Pewtervanburen.PNG|right|Pretend its golden, since I'm already pushing the one-personal-image rule.]]
Abdi, you've just earned yourself the '''GVBAoA''': 
'''G'''old 
'''V'''an 
'''B'''uren 
'''A'''award 
'''o'''f 
'''A'''wesomeness 
for helping me get off the ground when I was a newbie, and for being an all around nice person. There are only five in the entire world! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Whoa!! What an honor! I have so many people to thank—I'd like to thank the academy; I'd like to thank The Cheat, for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
==The "Yet another award" award==
:Just kiddin. It's the '''thank you award'''. I present this thank you award to AbdiViklas, <s>Pretty weird person</s> Swedish Prince, for giving me an awesome trophy and for just being cool.
So here you go! Thanks!
:{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC) [[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|Thank You Award givin to '''AbdiViklas''']]
::Presenting: the '''"No, thank ''you''!" award'''! For being an expert trophy-giver and encourager. People who affirm good stuff in others are themselves ''good stuff''. G-E-W-D.
::On an unrelated note: when I hear "Swedish Prince" I can't help imagining a [[Wikipedia:Prince (artist)|guy in a purple suit]] trying to look sultry but failing because his [[Wikipedia:Swedish Chef|eyebrows and mustache entirely obscure his face]]. [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u2/141603.html Oh-oh-oh, the Swedish thing]... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== "wiki is gay"? ==

I'm sorry, I need to ask this question in order to see if this was just an inane dream or a reality - did Homestarrunner.com temporarily put up a message in their updates section (top-right corner of the main pages) saying that "The HRWiki is gay"? Thanks, this is killing me... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 13:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Interesting. No, we don't have any record of that happening. Who did you hear that one from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::TBC like us. We're cool. Most of us seem to like members of the opposite gender...so there. **sticks out tongue and gives a rasbery** {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that sounds something more like what Matt Wilson would do... He doesn't like his cartoon's wiki much, and has put things like "the wiki is creepy" in the credits occasionally, and even openly mocked them with a "Bonus Stage Wiki Guy" character in a recent toon. But the Brothers Chaps love us. They sent Joey sketches and stuff. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Who's Matt Wilson, and what cartoon does he make? He sounds like a not-so-nice person. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Matt Wilson writes the [[Wikipedia:Bonus Stage|Bonus Stage]] webtoons. He doesn't think much of his fans, I think, the wiki in particular. But the cartoons rock. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Like I said, I think I was — literally — dreaming. I was up really late last night. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::...which reminds me that I really spend too much time on the computer. Dreaming about the internet, wow... :/ {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL—yes, that is a warning sign. (I can just imagine Gafaddict doing couch mumbling: "Mbl... hammminbble... Edit conflict...".) Seriously, not only do TBC like the wiki, their record is notably free from the use of "gay" as a generic negative. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, me i've be doing great, can i ask you some questions:

1.whats your favourite toon?

2.whats your favourite character?

3.how did you find Homestar runner?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Two of those are tough. (One's easy; the answer to #3 is on [[User:AbdiViklas#Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction|my user page]].) For favorite 'toon, I'll have to limit it to sbemails to make it easier. In that case, the three that I ''enjoy'' the most are [[funny]], [[caffeine]], and [[your friends]]. I can't decide exactly what the order should be. I feel a little guiltily lowbrow for enjoying so much the ones that are just straight-up, slapstick, audiovisual gags; I ''appreciate'' the ones that are "clever" too, but I can't help just laughing at loud at these.
:For favorite character: also tough. Of course I like 'em all, for the appropriate reasons. (Strong Bad because he's... Strong Bad; Strong Sad for his good taste in literature, music, art, and intellectual culture; Homestar for his heartwarming naïveté; etc.) If I have to pick a major character, I'll go with The Cheat; I just bought one of the The Cheat t-shirts while they were on sale, and it's the first t-shirt I've bought. But if we're including minor characters, I think What's Her Face is pretty cool, as I once [[Talk:What's Her Face|observed]] in a characteristically wordy post. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[Talk:What%27s_Her_Face#From_the_Paper_.22Teen_Girl_Squad:_Class_Stratification_and_the_Role_of_Otherness_Within_A_Multi-teen_Peer_Group_Dynamic.22|''No wonder'']] you didn't post the entire link that discussion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That and the fact that my comment was in response to some above that heading. (By the way, that heading was [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]]'s doing; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=151263&oldid=151256 originally] I hadn't started a new section.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=next&oldid=151263 see].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

== Louisiana residents ==

AbdiViklas: I noticed that you reverted my edit on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/weird dream#Louisiana lingerie?|this page]], which was a removal of the phrase "it could even be a jab at the relative intelligence of Louisiana residents." Let me make the case for my removal, and then I'll let you do with that information as you see fit.

I'm not aware of a stereotype that Louisiana residents are unintelligent. I ''am'' aware of a false stereotype that people living in the South are "slow." I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. In this case, I have little confidence that TBC would propogate this bias--they are from Georgia, about as South as you can get. (I also have difficulty seeing the connection between askew undergarments and intelligence, although one could argue this point.)

So, I removed your comment because I saw no need to perpetuate an insulting stereotype, especially one which residents of Georgia would be unlikely to defend. I trust that you'll take these comments as what they're intended to be--an explanation of my position--and not a personal attack. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your tact! I live in NC myself, so I certainly don't subscribe to the "dumb Southerner" concept (and am concerned about research showing employer bias against Southern accents!). I offerred the comment as illustration that the Easter egg could have meant something other Mardi Gras. In fact, my first thought when watching it, since I didn't make the Mardi Gras connection, was "Ha ha, that one couldn't even figure out how to put it on!" True, Louisiana isn't the butt of such jokes so much as Arkansas; it was jokes like the [http://www.joke-archives.com/youmaybe/arkansasreadingtest.html Arkansas reading test] that I was thinking of. (And I've heard that one ''from'' Southerners, in NC!) I'm not so sure TBC have qualms about perpetuating insulting stereotypes, either; I find it hard to watch Li'l Brudder in light of the physically impaired. (But yes, to their credit, they steer mostly clear of shock humor and using touchy subjects for cheap laughs.)
:As for removing the comment, I just reverted because I thought it was generally frowned upon to edit other people's comments in STUFF or talk pages. (I mean, I once deleted one when someone used a homosexual slur, but for anything less extreme I try to let it stand.) In light of your argument that acknowledging a harmful stereotype reinforces it, though, you can consider it ''my'' deletion!
:Thanks for responding in such a diplomatic and well-explained way! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, thanks for the cheerful reply; I probably made a mountain out of a molehill anyway (it's only a STUFF page, after all). I'll keep your comments in mind before editing arguments in the future. Have a great week, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== greetings from Nikolce Kocovski (plus homeschooling) ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing fantastic. anyway onto business:
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you ever had a bulling problem in school?
#what have been up to recently?
yours truly [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey Nik!
:#I think I'd noticed [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] a couple of times on recent changes, but I hadn't looked up his user page until you asked. I wonder how his Elvis impersonation is? I hope it's better than the one on [http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/01-1.html this] page (see the entry for Jan. 8)!
:#I was [[Wikipedia:Homeschooling|homeschooled]] from 2nd grade through high school, so I certainly didn't have as many problems with bullying as most students, but even so I had some. Interestingly, one of the guys who used to tease me in really painful ways eventually (like within the same year) realized that he really was hurting me, apologized, and started being nicer. I think he wasn't really so much a true bully; he just thought he was being funny (while I didn't). These days, as a teacher, I'm more concerned with trying to prevent bullying for my students. It's really a serious problem; in the U.S. 75% report being bullied at some point, which means not only are they being denied a fundamental human right, but their education and development are being affected. I'm not sure how much I can do as a teacher to really change bullying, but I intend at least not to be unaware of it or (worse) ignore it.
:#Recently I've been doing a bunch of homework for finals in my university courses. Also I've been visiting a high school where I've been practicing conducting the orchestra in [[Wikipedia:Arcangelo Corelli|Corelli]]'s ''Christmas Concerto'', which has been a lot of fun. Conducting Baroque music has an effect on me sort of like "runner's high"; by the end of the rehearsal I'm a little giddy. Their concert is Tuesday. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I had no idea you were once a homeschooler! So was I from K-12. I'm still very glad of it and quite appreciative of the sacrifices my dear mother made to teach me (especially since I was sometimes grotesquely lazy). Anyway, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup. From about halfway through 2nd grade, when my Mom pulled me out because I was having serious problems. I was ADD (not hyperactive) before it had really become well-known, and my teacher couldn't understand why I wasn't getting my worksheets ''{sneer expressing intense teacherly contempt for worksheets}'' done without supervision. Plus I was a real troublemaker, having problems "keeping my hands to myself" (less from agression than from a confusion about the fact that tripping others or swinging my lunchbox into them was not as funny for them as for me). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Not that it's much to add, but my ex was homeschooled. I think kids can benefit more through homeschooling. If I have kids, I'd like them to be homeschool as much as possible too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Let me hasten to say that, as somebody about to be employed by it, I'm definitely not anti-public-education-system. The pros and cons of homeschooling versus public would have to do largely with what you felt the purpose of school was. If you adhered to a very traditional understanding of education in which "knowledge" meant a canon of factual information to be "uploaded" from written curricula and direct instruction into students' minds—in which "school" was primarily about the stuff it seems, on the surface, to be about (Reading 'n' Riting 'n' 'Rithmetic, etc.)—then yeah, that can be more efficiently accomplished through 1-on-1 instruction. But if you define "knowledge" as socially created, i.e. understanding is best achieved by experiencing something rather than hearing about it, and the transfer of experiential understandings through group work is not simply a side effect of schooling but an asset; if you think that what school is there to provide is not simply the official curriculum but the hidden curricula of social interaction and societal structures, and especially if you place a priority on exposing your child to other socioeconomic groups and cultures, then public school becomes desirable. (Although, contrary to popular opinion, homeschooling isn't typically insular; I had just as much contact with peers via co-opped classes and extracurricular clubs as most public schoolers. It would still be possible to achieve all the benefits above, though in my experience you might have to look outside the homeschooling community for meaningful interaction with other cultures.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:I seem to be a bit late to this conversation, but I just figured I'd also meantion I was homeschooled from grade 2 onward as well. I switched when we moved way up country to Quesnel, and when we moved back south I never went back. I liked it, especially since it's so flexible. A bit ''too'' flexible sometimes too, it is somewhat dificult to stay on schedule. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

::I too, am late in responding, but I will anyway. Yes, I, too, occasionally found it too flexible. My mother can tell many a story of my dreadful procrastination. It still bites me occasionally, but I think I've mostly outgrown that bad habit now. (Of course, finding the Wiki has done nothing to improve my habits in that area...) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, hehe. Perhaps my earlier Wikiing is partly responsible for the remarkable intensity of my finals-period workload, which is why I haven't been on her much in a couple of weeks. Anydangways... I'm back! Missed y'all. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I am updating my Honorary Gang Members electronic page and I need the following information. '''Stop'''

What rank would you consider yourself in my gang? '''Stop'''

For example, I am the '''"Brains"'''. '''Stop'''

The Sneak is '''"The Thief"'''. '''Stop'''

And The Strong Man is '''"The Brawn"'''. '''Stop'''

Please try not to use any of those ranks. '''Stop'''

Please respond on my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:Gee, I'm not sure, S.S. Bad. I think I need to rewatch Ocean's 11 for ideas. I'll get back to you, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Official "You're Back!" Greetings ==

Hey, what can we say but that we missed you? I constantly kept thinking "Gee, where's Abdi and his amazing replies an' such?" I even tried to fill your niche whilst you were gone (check my contributions. There's at least one marked "An Abdi-worthy reply"), but to no avail. So now we won't be too bored, with so many other people leaving the wiki for the hols. Glad to have ya back, Abdi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:<s>Oh? You were gone?</s> Er... I mean... glad to have you back too! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I noticed you'd been a bit scarce around here. I figured it was school-related. I've been done for over a week now. I'm in Oregon visiting family and friends for Christmas, but I'm still definitely present on the Wiki. So don't worry, either you or DorianGray, I'll be there like shareware. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Glad to have you back, man! And I also rememebred you. See my reply over [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17#Is_it_cardboard.2C_or_is_it_feedback.3F|TB's talk]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
You guys are so nice! So—yeah... guess that was kind of a false alarm, what with not visiting for another week. As you guessed, H.L., my absence up until about the 22nd was school-related, but absence since then was spending-Christmas-with-the-family-related. To be more specific, sitting-around-in-pajamas-eating-chocolate-and-drinking-hot-cider-and-egg-nog-alternately-for-three-days-straight-related. We punctuated the festive lethargy with trips to Narnia and King Kong, which were both just great, in their (very different) ways. Next up: Pride & Prejudice (yes, there ''are'' men who dig it), Harry Potter, The Producers, maybe some Memoirs of a Geisha, and all those things from a while ago like Crash or Zorro that I haven't seen yet. Whew! The worload!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic crisis! ==

Dear, Sir Viklas '''Stop'''

I apologize for being absent for a while. '''Stop'''

The Decemberween season keeps me busy even in the past! '''Stop'''

It is a delight to recollect with the gang during this glorious season! '''Stop'''

However our joyous gatherings may have to end shortly. '''Stop'''

For a complaint has been presented to my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Please refer to my talk page and view the complaint from Sir Dot Com. '''Stop'''

If you all agree to the idea he has proposed then the gang may live for another day! '''Stop'''

I thank you all in the most gracious manner and bid you a very merry Decemberween season! '''Stop'''

Sincerely,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:See [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images]] for more info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing great. i just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thank you for your kind messages, you've helped me quite a bit. We friends right?

merry christmas [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:04, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:Course we friends, foo! You're my only Macedonian Aussie friend; those are hard to come by! Seriously, I'm really happy that you've stayed involved in the wiki, and I admire the fact that you keep asking about things and improving your wiki skills. Thanks for saying hi for the holidays; it's a little late to return the Merry Christmas, but I hope you have a great New Year's! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Happy new year ==

Happy new year and a enjoyable year for you, see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings from M.J ==
Uh, Hi, you may not remember me but I was a long term member of the hrwiki and then got locked out with the changing of sites and re-registering and the no-annonymous-users-can-edit situation.
''{takes breath}'' anyhoo I'm back and I wanted to thank you for your support, I was going to give up on the hrwiki and never return until I got your message on my livejournal account a while back urging me to keep battling on. So Thanks! I'll show myself out -[[User:MJ|MJ]]

== thanks, abdi ==
thanks for reducing the exc. points on my guestbook. ciberdude also seems to have accidently added four 4's instead of three on his signature. that man does not know what he is doing. just like you did to me, i hope we can somehow teach him to be more familiar with the wiki. thanks to you, i'm joining the welcoming commitee. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::''{note: This edit and its reply were made after the entries below them}'' for the record i '''do''' know what i am doing. i used to be a nerd, fixing trolling, reverting stupid ideas, but then when i tried to add to the [[www.hrwiki.org|wiki]] i kept getting reverted on all the references and goofs. so i thought that the wiki must not like too streached references and i started deleting stuff but that went down hill when thise edit got reverted so i realized that all of you are exactally the kind of person [[Strong Bad|SB]] would hate. so i decided to troll and troll and troll and troll and troll [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Wow. Um, I assume you changed your mind again. But yeah, the experience you mentioned (getting reverted at first) is so common I put some stuff into my [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome|welcome template]] about it. It's tough, because everybody makes an attachment, however little, between their edits and themselves; praise for their edits is praise for them and an abrupt and ignominious death for their edits is felt personally too. And yeah, you woudn't be the first who's responded to that injury by trolling. But as I'm sure you've experienced, all that reverting at the beginning is really just the result of the wiki learning curve; like people make edits that don't match the standards or that say something that was already said elsewhere. So anyway, I hope you're finding it a little less frustrating now being "the kind of person SB would hate." (Actually, seriously, I don't think he would; he's a pretty big grammar nerd himself. But yes, the kind of personality that makes the wiki work is closer to Adrian Monk's [[Wikipedia:Obsessive-compulsive disorder|OCD]] than Strong Bad's "whatever"-ness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:''{responding to Seriously again}'' Don't mention it. And thanks for your response patching things up with Ciberdude (though I took the liberty of moving it from ''User talk:Ciberdude'' to [[User talk:Ciberdude444]]). There are some unfortunate examples on the wiki of users who are still pissed at each other and seriously make life rough; there are also ''daily'' examples of people who might have reason to be offended with each other shrugging it off and being generous about it. I encourage you to keep doing that—and not just making it so relationships with other users are "okay," but actually actively trying to improve them (i.e. calling them on it when they make a really good edit, or just making them feel good in whatever way you can). It's not just some Hallmark-Care-Bears conspiracy to make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy; it actually makes for a better website (and ultimately better people in real life!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. In other words, easy with comments like "doesn't know what he is doing." Yeah, literally, we're all learning more about how this wiki thing works every day (like just a minute ago I learned how to resize an image!). But be careful not to be insulting. (Also, I don't think there's any clue about Ciberdude's gender; assuming all online types are male can be dangerous!) Unrelatedly, cool that you're joining the welcoming committee! It's a great feeling when you get to welcome someone (though you have to have a fast trigger finger around here; the past few days I've seen, like, six new users get welcomed by other folks before I had a chance!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

nice. real nice. "quick! the carebears are coming! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
anyway, i don't even know your gender, so i can't say anyting. i'm pretty sure thunderbird is a guy, but i'll have to look into it. i'm guessing......your......a......guy? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. (Come to think of it, I guess my user page, while it tells ''everything'' else about me, doesn't mention that!) I was thinking of users like [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] who often get assumed to be guys. (And Soylent Green is a hilarious movie.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

true dat. in fact, double true.
if you know what snl skit double true is from, you get a gold star. hint: it's new. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ironically, although I ''know'' about the Chroni(what?)cles of Narnia, I haven't seen it yet. (The rap, I mean; the movie was great.) I'm-a go see if I can hunt down a copy hosted by a site my filter won't block. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
youtube.com
:Yeah, that didn't work for me, but I found one that did. Dang; now I want a cupcake! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
two. no six. no twelve. BAKER'S DOZEN!!

dude, is that not the funniest thing you have ever seen? i watch it all the time. in fact, i'ma go watch it right now. see ya. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 22:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, that was up there with the Cowbell. I think the NY Times (or was it Slate?) was right; what makes it funny isn't just that their whiteness but the extraordinary harmlessness and yuppiness of their subject matter. I'm reminded of Weird Al's ''It's All About the Pentiums''. ("I'm the king of the spreadsheets / got 'em printed out all over my bedsheets...") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

due, seriously. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==ciberdude444's at it ==
abdi, ciberdude444 has once again reverted my comment on the guestbook. i said it was okay, but i didn't think it would be like this. i don't want to edit something on his userpage, and i doubt he will listen to me. i will try anyway, but i need your help.
:Meh; it doesn't seem to me like it matters a ton either way. The question is who gets "custody"; whether you can't edit because it's his userpage or he can't edit because it's your comment. There's no official rule about it, but it seems like nobody should have to live with stuff on their userpage they don't want, or with their edits misrepresented. I think I'll revert it to your signature alone, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a really big deal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, ab! abdi! abdivi! abdiviklas! yeah, i just don't like that stuff. it's a tender relationship, we don't him to put stuff that i would assume offensive and start another argument. i just want to take things carefully. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::who needs grammar lessons now? "we don't him to put stuff " whats that suposed to mean?
:Cool. Also, with regard to the age thing, maybe the best thing you could do would be to take your real name off your page. Zillions of people could be your age, but you'd be ''amazed'' how easy it is to trace a person from their name. (In my city, at least, if you've ever voted, the info on how you're registered and your voting history, plus address, is right there on the web for free!) I've got my age on mine but don't give out my name or anything else very personally identifiable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== what do you like mostly about homestar runner? ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been i've been doing great, the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Man... actually, that's a really tough one to answer. Why ''do'' we—or I, at least—like H*R so much? I think it has a lot to do with the form it's in—relatively short cartoons updated roughly weekly for free, and all accessible at any time. I mean, let's face it; it has nowhere near the same number of laughs-per-week as, say, Simpsons or Futurama, but if H*R were on TV it would mean it would come in 30' chunks instead of 6' max, and (Tivo aside) you could only get to it at specific times, one 'toon at a time. The best time of my life was when I was watching the Strong Bad Emails for the first time, and was spending days at a time just watching them back-to-back chronologically; I think they're actually funnier that way.
:But I haven't ''really'' answered your question. What ''element'' of H*R do I like best? Well... I dunno. Do I like the randomness of its humor, or its relevence (via the "pop culture, mumble grumble" references)? Do I appreciate more its PG rating or the frequent ways it pushes that envelope (which, frankly, are funnier because they're so unexpected than the reliable shock-humor of Family Guy and related shows)? Do I enjoy Strong Bad's wittiness or Homestar's naivete (or Marzipan's activism or Strong Sad's misunderstood artistic sensibilities)? Can't say. I guess it's '''D''', all of the above!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

i kinda agree with you, the reason i like homestar runner the best on the internet, for its humour, the way it uses pop culture like simpsons a bit, and the characters. but the reason why i like it is:'

because it acts like a cartoon. i'll explain:

you see most of the things you find on the internet are either horrible violent with lots of swearing or lots of adult content. but homestar runner is nothing like it. Do you understand?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ps: i do aslo enjoy sb emails long or short toons, the characters etc.

==welcoming==
can i join the welcoming comitte? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 17:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sure! Check out [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]]; it's got all the details on how to do so. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, that kind of proves my point. ==

''"sorry, rv; "hypocrisy" seems to me to have inaccurate connotations. He doesn't *give* a darn, really, whether "jillion" is a real word."''

The fact that he doesn't give a darn is kind of the point. He holds everyone else up to quite lofty standards of perfect spelling and grammar but doesn't do the same. That is the definition of hypocrisy and being a hypocrit. "Do as I say and not as I do." -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see what you mean. But see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Strong_Bad&curid=818&diff=230061&oldid=230056&rcid=174751 reply just now] on [[Talk:Strong Bad]], disagreeing somewhat with that definition of hypocrisy. The definition you offer is certainly a common one, but I feel it's a misuse of the word. "Inconsistency" might be better. I also reverted partly because I just felt like, by itself, it wasn't that remarkable; now, if a page gets made, that would be a reason to have a remark saying something like "this is another instance of '''Strong Bad's Usage Errors'''" or the like. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== An electronic GIF! ==

Dear Sir Viklas, '''Stop'''

Please view the brand new symbol-ma-drawin' I have crafted on my electronic user page! '''Stop'''

Has fun! '''Stop'''

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== Manual of Style ==

Actually, I ''just'' added that rule (and it was because I saw the stripèd discussion, though I'd been considering it for a while), but it actually works in your favor if you count the fact that (a sentence prior) Strong Bad actually ''did'' write "striped" while pronouncing it "stripèd". Thus, this one can go either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the Appetizers/Appe-teasers example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that was actually a bad example (as "Appe'teasers'" is written in the 'toon in question in an Easter Egg, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].) But, if we were to assume that nothing was written, then you'd still want to write "Appe-teasers" because that's what was said. There are better examples out there, though... most of what Coach Z says, for instance. That was just the first thing to cross my mind. This has been the unofficial consensus for a while, actually; I was just trying to make it official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. We've got a lot of back-revising to do on it, then. But maybe before we do, at least with regard to the aspiration-of-"-ed"-suffixes issue, see my hesitance I just added to [[Talk:highschool#Accent on striped]]. I agree that using the diacritical is preferable to "stripe-ed", but—I can't get over it's funnylookiness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::One more question: What's an example of a mispronounced word where the phonetic spelling is identical to the standard spelling? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just thinking hypothetically, maybe something like pronouncing "bomb" with the final ''b'' aspirated, but not enough to transcribe as "bombuh". You'd have to add a note. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Colonel" is a good one. Currently, it's written as such on every relevant page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, now I understand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Sorry. You must be talking about my first upload. Right after I saw it had no copright notice, I went to fix it. I did so for the other 3. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:Also, will you check to see if this is ok? [[Characters#Other_Alternates]]. The teen versions. Thanks. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Looks okay to me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Edit conflicts ==

Hey there, Dr. AdbiViklas. I'm totally cool with you giving 24.239.109.228 [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:24.239.109.228&diff=prev&oldid=239289 extra instruction], but I just want to point out that noting an edit conflict is completely unnecessary in this case. In fact, most times, noting edit conflicts are unnecessary. Crapfully crap, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; I know that the general rule is "if your comment would still make sense in the flow of the page don't note it"; in this case I did note it because otherwise there wasn't much explanation for my commenting at all! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it looks unprofessional to have a note up there. You can easily reword the message and have it flow. I would agree with it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::That makes sense; I did so and also added a bit about the turn he took. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Heh. You're awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::LOL; on the wiki I seem to be permanently in schoolteacher mode, in which first-time vandals are suspendees and potential dropouts. (The alarming thing that just kind of clicked for me recently is that these users ''are'' in fact real people, and their interaction with this wiki is a window of opportunity to teach them about how to interract with others. (Yes yes, and about H*R!) That's why, although the squabbles and typos of middle-school users take up time and energy, I'm glad we have them. The whole Seriously/Totebag/Ciberdude deal is a chance for three guys either to learn that nothing's fair, no one in authority cares, and name-calling and petty revenge get results, or to learn that co-operation and community are more than smarmy buzzwords and are actually realisable and effective. Then, realizing that two of those go to the same school: what could be the exponential impact of two kids who actually believed that?) So even though chances are good he'll never come back, and even though it was kind of silly of me to do so, that's why I left that for him; I daydream that maybe he's at a formative moment in his life and the wiki could tip the balance between a life of crime and a career as a school counselor or a Doctor Without Borders or some such. It sounds cheesy, but... maybe it's not too great an exaggeration! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I just read all of that. I should print that out and save it for posterity. ''print_of_it.exe''. I don't find it silly. That's the perfect way you should treat someone like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, I added another note on the the IP user talk page noting that the article talk page (rather than STUFF) would be the best place to discuss the change he wanted to make. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::P.S. I was edit-conflicted on this edit. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::::LOL; thanks both of you. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Incidentally, what do you mean "three guys [are] either to learn that nothing's fair [and that] no one in authority cares"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think anyone's going to learn that around here! I just mean that's the burden of responsibility on us. If this place had the atmosphere that a lot of fansites and online communities in general did... well, events wouldn't have played out the way they ''did''. I leave it to your imaginations to conjecture what would have happened (hint: the ''Lord of the Flies'' allusion might not be too far off!). And from a teacher point of view, that ''is'' a lesson kids get in school far too often ("nobody cares", plus they have no agency so why bother). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I ask because my goal as an admin is to always be fair. I sincerely hope that I am not playing favorites with any one of them, instead treating them based on their actions and by the way they respond to instructions. So long as they stop squabbling, I'm willing to leave the past in the past, but if they insist on bickering, a certain train is going to be dropped. I like to think I have a good bit of patience, but I admit it's wearing quite thin. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's dot com, you ''define'' fair administration!! Yeah, of course any of the involved parties would bring that accusation (which is explained partly by adolescent developmental psych, a time when you're trying to figure out exactly what your standing in relation to others is), but I'm a witness on this one at least. As far as patience goes, that's one thing that makes me think I might make a good teacher, since I seem to have an unusually high frustration threshhold. But even I've reached it a couple of times just in the past few months of rehearsing unruly orchestras! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== im back! ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i;ve been doing great becasue i was on a 10 day holiday to the gold coast with my family. on the 5/1/06. fantastic. so whats been going on, with you?

Ps:WHats happended to bubsty, when i checked bubsty's user page, all that was written was bye wiki, whats happened?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right—very sad: evidently he's had to quit the wiki for some reason. See his talk page for many expressions of grief at his leaving, several quite eloquent. (I know you ''have'' seen it because you signed it, but I mean higher up.)
:I'm glad you had a nice vacation; it's summer for you, right? I'm in North Carolina, which is kinda southern US, and we've been having a really warm January anyway; last week it was 68° (Farenheit). But tonight it's back below freezing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== looking for an explanation ==

Why did you add the definition for decoupage to "Death Metal"'s "Explanation" section? I realize it starts with "de" and has something to do with glue. Those do not seem like enough to bother including the word in the email's wiki page.
--[[User:209.157.156.126|209.157.156.126]] 10:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; not just those, but because of Taranchula's video (some helpful anonymous IP has just now added the lyrics), ''The Decoupage''. Yeah, if it weren't for that, it would be a seriously unnecessary fact! (By the way, speaking of helpful anonymous IPs, your interest in the accuracy of the article and the fact that you knew and bothered to sign your post are a little unusual in anonymous users; have you ever considered [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|becoming a member]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey sir ==

Thanks about the poster thing. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fractured discussion ==

Hey there. One of the problems with such a multifaceted discussion is that the replies can get a little (or a lot) scattered. So I just wanted to let you know that I have replied to no fewer times than to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Other|your proposal]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Move_existing_ones_to_subpages_and_lock_them|your question here]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Comments|your comments here]], and also [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Oppose|that big long thread]] with Darth Katana X. I would read them all first before replying, as they kinda form one big thought. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

==''thanks, abdi'' 2: Son of ''[[#thanks, abdi|thanks, abdi]]''==
well, thanks to you and dot com, i now have a username. thanks a lot, i will join a lot of commitees. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

by the way, when i was an anonymous user, you said something about how if i am who you think i am, it's important that i take the plunge. i have a brother who is a wiki user, but i am on my own laptop, so it's not like you could match the ip addresses if you thought i was him. so........just who do you think i am? [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:The combination of the fact that you commented on [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]'s talk page and mentioned that someone you knew got blocked suggested that you might know either him or a couple of other users that he had some interaction with. Plus you now say on your user page that he's your brother. If I'm not mistaken, your brother's blockedness is up today or tomorrow; a couple of edits you made to his user page got reverted because we don't really let people (even siblings) edit each others' pages, but he can do them himself then. If he doesn't, bug him to; we have quite a few users who started out getting temporarily blocked and ended up as major contributors (I seem to remember there's some sysop with that story, though I can't find who it is at the moment). I hope your brother and another user who got blocked at the same time do exactly that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is the name you're looking for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks; that was my hunch, but I couldn't verify it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::yeah, now i am unblocked, and i feel great about it. by the way, no, i didn't tell him to do those edits (although he said i did) and he really won't be on that much anymore. this website is too cool for him. plus, he said he just wanted to try it out, y'know? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

wait, why did you change the headline to a familiar joke that's on the tip of my tongue? well, you are a teacher, and i am a caps-hating 11 year old with poor grammar (but good spelling!), so you would know it better than i would. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=246006&oldid=246003 LOL]! Perhaps this might be a sign of archival necessities. Even I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=prev&oldid=218187 have been asked] to archive... and you're at 70! :) Welcome to the wiki [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] and [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]!! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yeltensic&diff=246355&oldid=246350 seriously].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you, stux, but i have been on the wiki since nov. 8. and thank you for the backup on that comment. i just think it should be reworded. also, sice the guestbooks are going soon, please sign mine. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

oh, wait. you already have. thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Lol. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::yeah, if ever evidence that i was an idiot, that was it. ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad you're back, Will; I meant what I said above (and mean it for Ciberdude as well). In answer to your question, I realized that the section heading your brother used originally was the exact same you had used higher on the page, and it confused the browser when it tried to jump to the section. I'm not sure what exactly I'm referencing with the "Son of", other than the stereotypical 30s-monster-movie sequels that get referenced all the time (''Son of Dracula! · Bride of Frankenstein! · Second Cousin Once Removed of Wolfman!''). At least I didn't say ''Electric Boogaloo''. And as for archiving, Stux, despite the recent caving of a prominent holdout, I'm being obstinate. I don't see a particular need to yet, especially since I just recently discovered that ctrl+home and ctrl+end jump to the top or bottom of a page instantly! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I hate to break it to you (ok not really) but lemme tell you a little secret... for web pages, Home and End works just as well! ;) Well, the ball is rollin', I'm sure that circumstances (and pressures ;)) will chage... :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== (Not so) random encouragement for your recent efforts ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've been incredibly busy (like to the point of consecutive all-nighters) for the past week, so I just dropped in and don't know how much I might have missed (though I'm piecing together a picture that involves iPods, sockpuppets, Animal Crossing, and the like. I'm probably going to be similarly sparse for the next week; I don't count on sleeping tonight, anyway! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey there, hope all's going well for you. We miss you when you're not around. I should probably be pulling all-nighters too (and not all-nighter troll fights, like I did Saturday), with the work I have to do. But I'm not. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um, I have 8 words for you: Wow! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ok now that I've made my obligatory short random message, on to the real random message. But i don't have much time to talk so I'll try to be briefer than brief. By um, our standards :). Excellent points on the [[HRWiki_talk:Guestbooks]] article! I like the ideas, though right now I don't have the time nor the imagination to be that creative. Still, I like it. I brings hope in a otherwise tense and (not) hopeless situation. I brings an alternative to a post guestbook-alyptic world. It's the feel good movie -- er I'm getting carried away. But seriously, what I'm trying to say is this: to me there seemed there was much tension that arose with the guestbook situation (and certain events didn't help things), more so than with most issues. Your options and optimism, I think, will help ease those fears and tensions in some of our users. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==We Are The Wiki==
''This is an expansion of an idea from [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities]].'' 
     The recent [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]] phenomenon brought into discussion a tension that has been around for a while. Specifically, many who supported guestbooks felt that HRWiki is, or should be, a place for H*R fans to interact. Others pointed out that it is a "knowledge base," and that its activity should be limited to the upkeep of its content, and pure socializing done in other venues such as the forum. "I'm ... hesitant" about my own position on this issue, and the wording I used in the "Guestbook replacement" suggestions reflects a hope that the wiki's fun (maybe even frivolous?) functions and its documentary function are not mutually exclusive. 
     The fact is, though, some of my suggestions (based on current user practices) toy with a fine and elusive line in [[HRWiki:User space]]. My suggestions included saying hi to other users on their talk pages and featuring content on your user page that provokes responses on your talk page. Now a few quotes from [[HRWiki:User space]] include (emphasis added):
*''Your user talk page is for other users to discuss matters ''related to the Wiki'' with you.
*''Generally, you should avoid any ''substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki''. Examples include ... ''discussion not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki'' ... excessive personal information ... opinion pieces not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki or other non-encyclopedic material...''
     By a strict reading, this could be taken to mean that ''any'' discussion on a Talk page or a User talk page that is not ''directly'' related to a matter of editing is in noncompliance. I'm not going to take the trouble or embarrassment of linking to examples, but I suspect every user here has at some time been party to a discussion that had nothing immediately to do with H*R or the wiki. However, there are several (intentionally) vaguely-defined phrases in there: Just how much is "substantial content"? How much personal information is "excessive"? How much opinion constitutes a "piece"? But the Great Loophole is this line:
*''Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.''
     This, dear friends, is the text of my sermon today. This line expresses—guardedly and with many qualifications—a recognition that certain "not strictly 'on-topic'" behaviors may in fact be not simply permissible but indirectly beneficial. It does not go on to specify what these behaviors "at their worst" might do, but recent events certainly helped us imagine. So it is with great care, my brothers, yea with gravity and trepidation, that we invoke this clause. It is not intended to justify chaos, or to effortlessly nullify the injunctions above it. Yet invoke it I must, and I do so with sobriety and deference. 
     'Nuff preacher-talk. So: what is this clause? Is it a contradiction? Is it a weak concession to the fact that we all chat a little here and there, and it doesn't seem to be killing us? What about that last sentence: "At their best, such activities help us build the community, and this helps us to build the knowledge-base." Do you really believe that, or is it just a pleasant fiction softened by euphemism? What ''is'' this "community" of which we speak so often? 
     (Now, a disclaimer: I don't know a lot about "Wiki" philosophy overall; I've never been involved with Wikipedia and know little of its ideological history. When I say "wiki" I'm speaking specifically of HRWiki, and what I've observed here.) But I'll tell you what I've seen: I've seen people on the Eastern seaboard, the Pacific coast, Texas, Canada, Israel, Australia-by-way-of-Macedonia, and everywhere in between talking, collaborating, and knowing each other's "names" and personalities, not just demographics. I've seen users genuinely broken up over the "departure" of people they've never seen or shaken hands with—which would be odd behavior for a group of cyber-librarians who just happen to be simultaneously working on a database. I've seen users respond to vandal attacks, some of them massive, not with a language of personal injury ("Oh no, what'll ''I'' do?" "Look at all this I've got to revert!"), but calling each other by name and encouraging each other. I've seen users take great pride in their personal contributions, presumably experiencing the joy of accomplishment and becoming incrementally better defended against the paralysis of percieved incompetence. I've seen users engage in heated—often turbulent—disagreement, and learn, albeit by trial and error, how to do so in a civil, productive, and charitable way. 
     Let's step back for a sec. What are you doing? You're sitting on your butt looking at a computer—which is displaying an "opinion piece" about a wiki—which attempts to chronicle and analyze every minutest detail of an internet cartoon—which itself consists of some eccentric and anatomically deficient characters saying a few minutes of funny things on roughly a weekly basis. Is this feeding children in Africa? Is it curing cancer? Is it impacting the policies and actions of national or local governments? Well—hold that thought. My point is: '''what is the ultimate purpose of this wiki?''' Yes, recent discussions have precipitated a restatement that its primary purpose, it's ''raison d'etre'', is to be a knowledge base, documenting H*R cartoons. But its primary purpose does not disallow secondary purposes, and I see its potential for teaching "community" to be a compelling one. If, through this wiki, even one person learns how to work collaboratively with others, to encourage each other's efforts, and above all how do disagree with someone and debate that opinion in an open, respectful, and supportive way, ''and'' if these lessons transfer over into real life, then something much greater has happened than simply transcribing a web cartoon. And it ''could'' very well impact the society and governance of neighborhoods and nations. 
     This brings me to the title of this section. '''We are the wiki.''' The wiki is binary data on a server, yes, but without us it would be static. Furthermore, because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=157523&oldid=157522 the wiki is a liquid], it assumes the contour of its container, the users. If we were replaced with a different set of users, the wiki would become fundamentally different. A gardening model is not adequate for the wiki—we are not groundskeepers, who come in and work on "the wiki"; we ''are'' an integral and vital part of it. If there is an analogy, maybe we're like a good sports play—ahem, sports ''team'': the members of a baseball team all work together on something (the game), but if they all got up and left "the game" wouldn't remain (just a stadium full of very surprised fans). You see what this means? Nearly every user here expresses some desire to "help the wiki," "maintain the wiki," or otherwise contribute to its upkeep and improvement. The most immediate way to do that, certainly, is to edit mainspace articles. But tending to relationships with other users—cultivating them, pruning them, mediating them, and healing them—is every bit as much a way of improving the wiki. 
     On the flipside, that's what's so terrible about [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|true trolls]] (as opposed to vandals): Just as vandals attack the digital, visible fabric of the wiki, trolls attack the relational, social fabric of it. A vandal simply aspires to scrawl a few lines of graffiti; a troll aspires to tear ''us'' apart. Which is more insidiously devestating? A vandal can be reverted and blocked in seconds. The damage of trolling, if accomplished, is far harder to repair. So if you consider yourself a "troll fighter," take a deep breath and a look in the mirror before replying hastily to another user: when you damage a relationship, ''you'' are the troll. And keep in mind that, unlike the many defensive tools we have against vandalism, our ''only'' defense against this vulnerability is the intentional, calculating, untiring maintenance of our "community" ties—in other words, working specifically on "being friends." 
     This is where the last phrase of that Loophole gets its justification. "Building the community" does ''indeed'' "help to build the knowledge base." It defends and perpetuates it, and gives it a greater excuse for existing than the Flash-based antics of an Internet phenomenon. And for that reason there ''is'' an excuse for User talk content to go beyond "What's up with this edit?" and "Please delete a personal pic." ''As long as'' the activity is kept within reasonable bounds, and does ''not'' in fact impede the wiki's primary functioning—and ''if'' it is ''meaningfully effective'' at building relatinships—then it is not simply irrelevent frivolity; it is in fact... the Work of the Wiki. 
     Whew! That was long! If you just read all that, thanks and I'm sorry! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Don't be sorry. What you wrote was true to the deepest. '''We''' are the Wiki. You, me, the gnomes, the admins, the fanstuffers, the forumers, the developers, those who left, those who lurk, those that always complain that they spend too much time on "Dumb animal characters". '''We''' are all part of this, and I know it sounds like a cliché, but we must continue joining together for a common couse. It's hard to write as long as you do, but I just want to say: '''Thank you HRWiki.''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::You just said exactly what I've wanted to say ever since I joined this Wiki. At the risk of sounding like a complete nerd, I truly have to say that the friendships I've built on this Wiki are better than some of my friendships in real life. What I love about this Wiki is that you feel this sense of community that is hard to feel on other HUGE wikis like Wikipedia. Everyone knows each other, everyone participates in discussions, and everyone here has one thing in common: Homestar Runner. Thank you AbdiViklas. Thank you to everyone working on this Wiki, for you are not really working on the Wiki, '''You are the Wiki itself.''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That was by far the smartest thing I have ever heard. Like has matt, That's what I have been so afraid to say all along. It's so, so true. Amazing. You, sir, are in the skys, in the empire of great writers like Jack London, and pretty much everyone who has inspired me. Thank you. {{User: Seriously/sig}}

== Personal Images ==

I draw you attention to [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images|Sir Strong Bad's]] talk page where you offered to take one of Sir Strong Bad's personal images for your own so that he will be in compliance with the image policy. Please choose one of the following images and claim as your own if you have an image slot to spair by inserting your name into the <nowiki>{{personal-image|Sir Strong Bad}}</nowiki> tag:
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d0/SSB%27s_Gang.gif SSB's_Gang.gif] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/be/SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/24/B_and_W_Swedish_Fish.jpg B and W Swedish Fish.jpg] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/0/0c/Macedonia_B_and_W.jpg Macedonia B and W.jpg] </s>
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Homsar_Old_timey_bandit.PNG Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/9/91/homestaryodlebw.PNG homestaryodlebw.PNG] </s>

I show that you have 2 empty personal image slot. Thanks, have a great day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
:I took the fish. I would have sooner, but I wasn't sure whether it required anything more elaborate than changing the template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Kaption Kontest ==
Yeah, could I follow the rules by making it on my [[User:Seriously/old captions|Archive]]? Also, I strongly disagree with this rule when it's only a bit of fun. There is no con to people editing my userpage; unless it's the ever-hated guestbook signing or vandalizing (obviously.) I would like you to consider letting me keep it as it presents no immediate harm. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, why havn't you been on? I miss seeing comments with 100 lines just to fit your ideas. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL; because the 100 lines have been going into school-related activities. I was far more active in December and January since I had less work. Expect higher involvement in March, declining in April, and nearly non in mid-May, with a sudden spike around the last week. And a 60% chance of rain.
::Now then, about the captions: I guess it's not a hard-'n'-fast ''rule'' per se at the moment, and it's certainly not a matter of ''making'' you move it. What we ''do'' have in the way of suggestions on the topic: It's dot com says in [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities|HRWiki talk:Guestbooks]], "Please note that you should not encourage people to edit your user page, for any reason." [[HRWiki:User space#What can I have on my user page?|HRWiki:User space]] says "In general, avoid editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct any linking errors that might confuse readers. However, some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect." This clearly means that non-owner edits aren't ''completely'' forbidden. It also hints at a possibility that the owner could encourage the edits of others, though from context and when it was written, I imagine it means an invitation to feel free to correct mistakes or improve content (for instance, [[User:FireLily]], [[User:Ppk01#Japanese_Character_Names]], or [[User:Thechamp#Links_and_stuff]]). That would probably result in much less frequent non-owner editing than a recurring feature. So yeah, I'm certainly not "making" you move it, but I still suggest it. Kinda using your argument against you, what would it hurt? Well... I suppose even if you kept the image and an "edit!" link on your user pages, the captions wouldn't be with it. I was thinking there might be some way, via [[Wikipedia:Transclusion|Transclusion]], to keep the content elsewhere, have users edit elsewhere, but have it show up on your user page. I did a test in the sandbox that seemed like that didn't work, but I haven't given up on it yet. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Update: I wasn't able to get transclusion to work in my brief test. I tried putting <nowiki>{{User:AbdiViklas/welcome}}</nowiki> here, as my only subpage, and as expected it appeared. Then I went and edited the original welcome subpage and saved, but the edit didn't appear here on refresh. I'll have to submit this to those who know more about how this place works. '''Attention: 'elp!''' Is live transclusion (including updates being reflected) only for the Template namespace? Or did my test not work because the changes take more than a few seconds to propagate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Regarding transclusion: give it another go, but this time instead of a browser refresh, give the page an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&action=purge action=purge]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Cool. But I was just now trying it with [[HRFWiki:Sandbox]], since It's dot com asked that the contest be moved to Fanstuff, and I guess transclusion doesn't work interwiki? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Nope, no interwiki transclusion. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Ach wohl. (For Heimstern's benefit!) So I guess, unless It's dot com's cool with it being on a subpage, the best you can do is put the image and a link on your user page. You could of course update it manually when someone adds to it over at Fanstuff. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me. ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wow; congratulations! I've got a couple of awards [[#GVBAoA|higher up on this page]], but not pizza-based! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Pizza's always better. It also feels good that this trophy is actually taken seriously, as it seems it means much more to users than I thought it did. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Google fight? ==

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/TheKookyOne/googlefight_kooky_abdi.png 
Well, you've beat me again, comrade! ''(Though, I must wonder, what 22,500 people would want to look us up so bad?)'' =P I'm just stopping by to say hi, considering it's been a while since I was around here. How've things been? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Egad—and just browsing the first few pages of those results ''are'' all posts of mine on here (plus a few on various tech support boards)! Is it really possible that I've made over <s>11,000</s> eleventyhundred edits? I'm not sure whether that's an accomplishment or a monumental squandering of time! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd lean towards "monumental squandering". Except I'm only 300 results behind you. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::: Yeah, well, I beat both of you ''combined''! 'Course it helps that my user name is an English word... :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah that's cuz you [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Jay cheated] :-p (at 157,000,000). For non common names I have Abdi and Kookyk [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Stux beat]: 287,000 to 14,100. But the ultimate winner has to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=It%27s+dot+com&word2=Stux Dot com]: weighin in at 501,000. Not to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Tom&word2=Jay outdone], Jay is easily outclassed by Tom at a whopping 539,000,000. Congratulbalatitaitions Tom! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::But Stux is a Linux program, isn't it? So most of those hits are not you. I get 26,500 hits, and you can guarantee they're all me! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Aw, I'm only at 1190 ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''EDC:''' Well... yeah (I'm surprised that you even know about it! I just learned that it existed today!) but I don't mind counting an OS named after me! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Mine is 239,000,000. That's just awesome. But what did I do to get so much? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Probably the fact that like Stux, Jay, and Tom, your username is also a word (and in your case, a common noun) that Google would find in other contexts. What's entertaining is pitting two [[Wikipedia:Egosurfer|ego-surfs]] against each other; for instance, my brother's name beats mine handily, despite the fact that I actually have a "real" entry (i.e. related to me) in the second page of my Google results, whereas his are all about some middle school and a guy who got the Victoria Cross. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Hey Abdi. It is my pleasure to announce that you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges and responsibilities. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. May you always use your powers for good and for awesome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Great jorb Abdi. You've deserved it all to much {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, congratulations. ^-^ Keep on doin' great things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Congratulations man! notstrongorbad just became a bit stronger, but still not badder. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Abdi. My main man. My ace in the hole. Well, a few months ago I would never have thought I'd beat you to sysophood, even by one day. Man, music grad students as sysops? Can the wiki '''handle this??!!''' Anyway, glad you're on board. Oh, and I still hope for Homestravinky Runner to be realised someday. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congradulations, AbdiViklas, AKA Notstrongnorbad, AKA Professor Tor Coolguy. Your devotion to the project and your long esseys about the site are the glue that keeps us together. You brought happiness and tolarance to the wiki in your own special way. You deserve this promotion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:Everyone, didn't I say this would happen? Huh? You and Lapper? In IRC? With excessive question marks? Hey, congrats. You're a great user, Abdi! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::From the minute you welcomed me, I knew you had syop potential. You're a truly great user, man. I'm glad this has finally happened to you. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::And two more. Does this mean I have to come up with more H*R-themed "congrats"? Uh... Oh, well, congratulations! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Congratulations! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well! For the longest time, I had thought you were a sysop - you welcomed me (and it wasn't until later that I realized you didn't have to be a sysop to do that), and you've always made outstanding edits to the wiki. I've certainly enjoyed working on this wiki with you and the rest of the gang <s>up here at Possum Lodge</s> - you're administra-awesome! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:Congrats, Abdi. I wasn't in on the decision (I wasn't back from hiatus until yesterday), but you'll be a great asset to our sysop team. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

'''OSCAR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH:''' Thank you—thank you all—<sob> ... so very much... Seriously, I appreciate youse guys' appreciation and encouragement; you're all swell gents (and... gentesses?). If you haven't noticed, I haven't been around so much lately; my school time requirements have been a lot higher since the beginning of February than they were before. But I still intend to show up ''at least'' once a week or so, and like all things, this crunch shall pass. So, until I poke my nose in again, Chins up! Tifle down! And so on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas (2) ==

How are you, anything happen to you recently?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'll say! In just the past week I: 1) Got a new dual-chip [http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn laptop computer] (with a coupon, got one worth $2,800 for $2,000), 2) got into a wreck—don't worry, I wasn't hurt at all and neither was anybody else—but my car was totalled and now I have to find a new one, and 3) was made a sysop! (And 4, made some Jambalaya. But it was already a day after Mardi Gras, so as a tribute to New Orleans it was a little late.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry about your car. Although it's still pretty awesome you were maqde a sysop, so that helps a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== You no old, man! ==

Since when is being over twenty-five old? An emcee that age would be considered very young. You're not old until you start ''acting'' old in my opinion. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Well, ''I'' feel old. I think it's when you ''feel'' old that it counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, considering that I routinely act about 16, I guess you've got a point, Darth. (That can be a little problematic when trying to ''teach'' 16-year-olds; I keep getting into discussions about Inuyasha...) But it does mean something when your closest friends stop saying things like "So where are we going tonight?" and start saying things like "So good to hear from you! Remind me of your phone number; I seem to have lost it." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::You sound like my mom. She's a teacher, too. Only, my mom likes ''Halo'' more than ''Inuyasha''. She, like, walks right past the bad guys and they don't even notice. She's also smart like you, too. My mom actually liked screamo metal rock before I did, and I started liking it because she listened to it all the time. And Dorian, I feel old all the time, but not right now because I'm on a sugar high...and I feel so alive...for the very first time...and if I have any more cookies I'll probably get so hyper I'll fly, fly (only P.O.D. nerds will get that). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== totally kill all imposters! ==

Hmmmmm... I have no idea how that happenned. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Ed smildE|Ed smilde]]/[[User talk:Ed smildE|talk]]

== Happy easter ==

Hello abdiviklas how are, how's easter (If you celebrate it?)?

What have you been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hi! My Easter was great; I spent most of the morning playing my violin in church (which isn't exactly like most churches' Easter service; our worship leader is a former R&B guitarist from Alabama, so my playing style in church is less classical and more a mix of Dave-Mathews-type rock and old-timey Appalachian-type sounds). I spent most of the rest of the day working on my taxes (which are due today) and making [http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipes/meat-poultry/greekmeatballs-cb.html "Greek" meatballs] (except I mixed ground lamb with the beef) with [http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/indian/00/rec0055.html cucumber raita]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::Glad to hear it. Let's hope the rest of the year is as kind. (And maybe with a little bit less tax mess. =p) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Hey, just to let you know... ==

Wiki grrl is my best friend. Pardon her grammer; she'll correct it. I told her about homestar a long time ago and now she finally created an account here. The "bug swallow" thing on her userpage is because one of her favorite quotes from here is the whole routine Homestar goes through when he swallows a bug in Bug In Mouth Disease. Just thought you might want to know. And don't ask about PEP. I can't tell you. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 21:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. I love it when people who know each other in "real life" are on the wiki. And I'm glad she finds [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] funny; I have a hard time doing so. I try, I really try, on a regular basis, but each time I come to the end of the toon feeling a little dissapointed. Funny how one person's favorite can be another's least favorite and vice versa! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

==Typo==
Holy cow. Thank you a hecka ton for catching that spelling mistake. I ment to say "Marzipan was originally intended to be Homestar's '''''girl'''''friend." Thanx for catching that. Now, should I post the revised fact somewhere on the page? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 20:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:My gut says no. The same thing is already said more fully at [[Marzipan]], but there it's speaking of character depth (i.e. just there as a "Homestar accessory"). Putting it in an article about their relationship and wording it as "originally intended to be" makes it sound like she isn't anymore. And I've known people with ''way'' more off-and-on relationships than Homestar and Marzipan who would still refer to each other as "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings and explanations ==

First off, thanks for streamlining the not-for-profit thing on the [[space program]] article. Your edit was what I thought of doing in the first place, but I thought it might be a bit presumptuous. After seeing someone else do it, I realize I was worrying about nothing.

Second, in response to the comment you affixed to a recent edit of [[band names]], Aerosmith is a misspelling of "arrowsmith", old term for someone who specialized in making arrows. When MTV did a 10th anniversary special, Mel Gibson did a segment introducing the band Aerosmith, and the segment started off with him making an arrow the old-fashioned way, with a big hammer and stuff, and as he was admiring his handiwork, he acted as if someone off-camera was talking to him and said "what? oh, the ''band'' Aerosmith? oh..." I hadn't actually heard the word before that, and I researched it and discovered that that's actually where the band got their name. It's a fairly obscure term these days, so it's not really a surprise that many people don't know the word (and the wing motif on their album covers coinciding with the "aero" prefix just confuses things even more). - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 10:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you learn something new every day! Especially my first thought for "someone who makes arrows" is "[http://www.tfd.com/Fletcher fletcher]". It was a little hard to track down, but [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Arrowsmith arrowsmith] does appear to be legit, though. (Nonetheless it's still a good candidate for the "two will do" principle; otherwise why not add Boyz II Men, Korn, Weezer, the Beetles, or the zillions of "ska"-derived names?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
== Yeah, Music Ed. Majors! ==
Hey! Thanks for the post on my talk page, I think it's always awesome to meet other musicians. The world doesn't have enough of us these days - at least, not enough good ones. Hillary Duff and Brittany Spears don't come close to counting! What's really awesome is that you studied at one of my top choices for Graduate school. (I'm getting my Masters and Doctorate Degrees in Performance, and Eastman has quite a track record in the trumpet world!) I'm also looking at Northwestern, CCM, Juliard, and DePaul, in no particular order. It's also nice to know that there are other Music people who waste as much time on this as I do, and likely more... {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 03:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strike! ==

I agree w/ you on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=senior_prom&curid=23493&diff=320901&oldid=320874&rcid=269236&hrwiki_mwiki6_session=a5568b8e1e114a5b647cdfc23672fe28 senior prom edit], but could you post what you summarized in the [[Talk:senior prom#Summary/Relevance|talk discussion]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== (No subject) ==

6 days 'go responded to that on my talk page case you wanted to look at that. I'm starting to sound like Strong Sad here...

Yoshi minus nothing 05:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Eating The Cheat ==

I think the line about eating The Cheat comes from [[narrator]] where Strong Bad says "surprised Strong Mad hasn't eaten The Cheat already", or something to that effect. Don't you love how someone can find an answer to a question so fast around this place? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm glad you can! Several "site:" searches in Google failed to do it for me. Of course I was searching for "eat", not "eaten", which explains it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::I have some sort of urge to make a joke about "eat or be eaten", but I can't think of the wording... Hmm... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== How Do You Do It? ==

AdbiViklas, How do you do it? The long essay-like answers to questions others dare not ask. Your likely answer to this question will be, "It come naturally when your older!" But after further speculation I realized your one of the most astoundingly literate and brilliant people I have ever met. Such brain power is often looked over where I live sadly, but I see that you and a lot of people on this wiki are smart and really deserve to be recognized. Thank you for you time, {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, anything happen to you recently? Anyway, what have been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:Mostly looking for jobs. I'll be graduating in a week, and want to go ahead and be teaching by the start of the school year. The problem is there aren't that many schools that have orchestra programs and no teacher. There's one about a 45-minute drive from me, and a couple others about a 3-hour drive from me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== You're in Durham? ==

I'm in Clayton, less than an hour from you. I'll be in Durham on tuesday, going to a Bulls game. Later this summer, I'm moving to Laurinburg, though.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Ha! How about that? Yeah, Bull games are fun. I should go now that I'm done with school (and before I start again on the teaching end of it!). Minor leage baseball is the way to go: you can get in for roughly the cost of a movie, sit close enough that you can actually ''see'' the players as something other than moving dots, and there's always the $1 concessions days or fireworks shows afterward. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, my team is usually the Mudcats. Anyway, Charlotte murdered them, 7-0.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey, I was ''at'' that game! Yeah, my dad works for the [http://www.heraldsun.com Herald-Sun], and had four passes, so he just called me up that afternoon. It was kind of hard to get into the game when we never scored a run, but hey, I had a bratwurst and a bag of peanuts, and that's what really matters. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

::::No kidding? Both my parents work for the [http://www.newsobserver.com N&O].--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heh; I'm just finishing up a year's subscription to them. It would always have seemed a little traitorous before, but since the Herald-Sun was taken over by some outside company and became a lousy place to work, it was okay. Actually, as of this week, my Dad ended his 10 or so years at the paper and is now an editor at, of all things, a magazine for accountants. Yeah, N&O rocks. Sadly, since I'm moving to Fayetteville, I'll be missing it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I'm pretty sure you can still get the N&O in Fayetteville. My Dad grew up there, and that's where my parents met, at the Fayetteville Observer. Oddly enough, Laurinburg is less than an hour from there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Cool; maybe I should look into extending my subscription. I'll actually be renting a sweet, sweet house in Stedman, pop. 600, about 10 minutes' drive east of Fayetteville. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Slowly Going the Way of an MxPx Reference ==

When you said that thing about guestbooks "slowly going the way of the buffalo or MxPx" months ago, I didn't get it. Well, my mom and dad came back from dinner a couple of days ago and my mom had bought me an MxPx disc...guess which one? ;) Now I get it. Man...how come you're cooler than me? LOL.

It's a ''really'' good album, too. "Tomorrow's Another Day" is an awesome song. Oh yeah, and did you ever hear MxPx's cover of "Drum Machine Joy" by Joy Electric? I'm hunting down that EP right now just for that one song! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:LOL; maybe I know about these things because that album came out when I was in high school. I had a friend who was very indie/punk/underground-oriented; he introduced me to Sixpence (which at the time had more the connotation of Whitestripes and less... well, the romantic-comedy-soundtrack staple they became), Five Iron, Joy Electric, Echoing Green, and other much more obscure and long-forgotten quirky groups, while I introduced him to Shostakovich and other kick-butt classical music. In an interesting twist of fate, he's now a drummer in Chapel Hill's healthy indie scene, taking lessons from his childhood idol, Sixpence drummer Dale Baker, who now has a [http://www.newsobserver.com/697/story/454402.html second life as a father and Montessori preschool teacher in my town]. But no, aside from the tracks on ''8-Ball'' samplers, I never heard that much of Joy Electric or MxPx. Five Iron and (yes, I admit) Reliant K are my ska/punk of choice, and I don't really go beyond them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

::Cool! :) By the way, the lead singer of Sixpence is doing a [http://www.leighnash.com/ solo project] which looks pretty interesting. I'll keep you updated on how that's going. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== After a hefty hiatus... ==

I, {{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}, RETURN to the electronically communicating world of '''2007!''' '''Stop'''

My blasted '''Telly 400''' was swiped from the very comfort of my domecile, and upon it's return.. '''Stop'''

I was shocked to realize that the bloody roustabanks had cut off her '''little toe'''!!! '''Stop'''

What was one to do without the comma key!? '''Stop'''

I had no choice but to begin a quest... or.. send The Sneak.. on a worldwide search for my beloved Telly's little toe! '''Stop'''

To my great delight, it was returned and I can once again begin heckling the inhabitants of the '''post-modern Free Country USA!!''' '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== An electronic request ==

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  10:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC) 
 
Dear Sir Viklas STOP 

I wish to inform you that some of our gang members have left the Wiki! STOP 

I would like to ask you for somewhat of a favor if you feel up to it. STOP 

 
Dapperly yours,

Sir Strong Bad
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== Not an active thread... ==

...but nevertheless it is nice to know that somebody still visits my page! And yes, obviously I do too. Dang, I guess I need a little bit of an update, don't I? I did the whole public school teaching thing for a year, and the short version is I found out I'm not a good enough "disciplinarian" to do it well, and really don't think I'd be happy even if I were. Basically I had time to eat and sleep—no, wait, just to sleep—well, not like every night, you know.... So my wikitivity was pretty limited. Since then, I've gone back to teaching one person at a time, and am much happier. I'm even teaching some freshmen at a well-known university that starts with a "D" and rhymes with "puke".... But I'm still pretty much as busy (it's just okay, because it's busy for my own stuff instead of things I'm forced to do), and don't really expect my activity to go much beyond logging on once a Monday update's brouhaha has died down and fixing anything I might notice. But I just want all y'all to know I'm still around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, here's another ex-teacher who left it - my reason is that I had to make administrators happy before I made kids smart. Not the order of operations in my manual. Anyway, glad you are still around and take care of business. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
And another update: On Christmas Eve I got engaged! Sadly, my fiancée is Homestar-illiterate. As you can imagine, that won't last long. Also, Heimstern might be interested to know that I'm thinking about a DMA... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:Congrats, dude! Abdi may be interested to know that... well, I burned out on my PhD and am not pursuing it anymore. Maybe someday, but not now. At least I got out with that M.A. signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger (interesting thing that happens when you graduate from the University of California). So, I'm not in school anymore, which I think is for the best. If you do decide on getting a DMA, I've no doubt you'll have a great experience. Has fun! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hey Abdi! Long time no see! Congratulations on the engagement! I also wish you the best in your DMA (should you choose to pursue it). On my end, my PhD and MS pursuits are also on hold. If you have time, you should swing by [[HRW:IRC|IRC]] sometime! Cheers! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Is my signature too big to fit the Wiki's guidelines? Thanks!

{{User:Evershiner/sig}} 23:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Evershiner: It looks okay to me!
:{{sigbox|User:Evershiner/sig}}
:Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks! I'm guessing its a tad too big, but I don't think that will make a big difference. Hope not! If any of you think I can't get away with it, please let me know! Thanks so much!

== Baby daddy ==

Combolations! How great for you and Mrs. Viklas! (I'm assuming it is she who'll be doing most of the work.) Do you konw the sex? I'm guessing girl. Keep us updated, and don't be such a stranger! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:No, it's just 9 weeks along. At 19 weeks, though, I definitely want to spring for the [[Wikipedia:3D ultrasound|3D ultrasound]]! And yeah, somehow we both have a hunch it's a girl... just a hunch. — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Abdi! What up man? Congratulations on the soon-to-be mini-Abdi! I'm sure he or she will be a very healthy baby! Good to see your doing well. Feel free to swing by IRC if you have free time. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh: It's a girl!! (We'll resist the temptation to name her What's Her Face. I'm not sure the grandparents would approve.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::My guess was right! Combolations! You should name her Elizagerth. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, yeah, Elizabeth Anne! Hm... guess who might have just gotten a new nickname... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, man! Congratulations on the new baby, wife, degree, life, and all the other things you recently updated on your user page. I don't know how seeing you name on the recent Cheat Commandos toon talk page brought a smile to my face. How have you been? I myself haven't edited the wiki in also a long time, so I just lurk around. Glad to see an old friend return to visit once more! (My last year or so can be summed up [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AE.L._Cool&diff=647851&oldid=550294 here], if you're interested.) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude. If March 19th was 9 weeks, that would make this week about 40 weeks. News? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, somebody gets their merit badge in stayin-on-top-of-things! Yes, due date is Friday, and no, she's still hiding! Any day now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::Just went through that myself as my youngest is now just a month old. Congrats. Get plenty of rest! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Update? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::At the hospital now! The baby girl is taking her sweet time. We wanted to avoid induction, but it's start to look like it might be necessary... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::At the hospital and wiki-ing, now that's hardcore! I understand man. Ours was 10 days past-due and we didn't want to induce either since it caused problems the first two times. Hang in there. She knows what to do. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Little Girl was born yesterday by c-section (after 29 hrs of labor) at 8:33 am, and weighed 8 lbs 14 oz! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Looking for advice ==

Hi, I've had this account for a while, but I've never really used it. When I joined, you sent a welcome message on my talk page, so now I thought I'd seek your advice on something.
I had an idea for a page and don't know whether or not it's notable enough: Noses. It seems to be a running gag, what with several toons mentioning them specifically, and many characters lacking them. I don't know how many examples I need for it to be a viable page in it's own right. Any advice on this would help. Thanks --[[User:DoctorWorm|DoctorWorm]] 10:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:Gee, I'd never noticed just how much there ''is'' about noses until I searched for them just now! Still, I think that's covered in [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]], both in the sections on "Strong Bad's Nose" and "Other" (Marzipan's nose job). Nice to see you back around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== "The Web is Dead"—how's HRWiki doing? ==

     (First off, hi everybody! Sorry for being away so much. I've got a baby daughter crawling all over the place now. I checked back in today because I've got a technophilisophilogical musing that seemed at home here.) 
     I was reading this very interesting Wired article arguing that [http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/ff_webrip/all/1 The Web is Dead, Long Live the Internet]—in short, that the open, heterogenous, "broad-not-deep," html-built Web of the 90s has been largely replaced by branded, big-player sites like Facebook and by Internet-delivered apps like Pandora or Netflix that aren't part of the Web proper. My musing here wasn't so much about that premise as about the veracity of one claim in particular. The author cites a statistic, then quotes someone's ''interpretation'' of that statistic:
:"According to Compete, a Web analytics company, the top 10 Web sites accounted for 31 percent of US pageviews in 2001, 40 percent in 2006, and about 75 percent in 2010. 'Big sucks the traffic out of small,' Milner says."
     Is that interpretation true? The implication is that, for instance, Hulu steals traffic from Homestar Runner. After all, in 2003 or so a 3-minute sbemail was about the most entertaining thing to watch on the Internet, but now there's, say, the entire run of Firefly. But the statistic could still be true if the "little" sites' traffic remains the same, but there are just more people on the web, going to Facebook and Hulu (or maybe clicking more often). 
     How has HRWiki's experience compared with this analysis? Of course it's not a rigorous test at all because Homestar himself has a life cycle of popularity that could be unrelated to anything except how many people have seen Trogdor and how many want to see anything more. But the HRWiki seems like a good specimen of the small site that Milner says should be being suctioned out—after all, this was social media before there was really a Web 2.0. Current hiatus aside, what has the trend been over the past 5 or so years? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:40, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Strong Bad Smiling

AbdiViklas — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:18:54 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Notable Other Appearances */ fix a little

{{cleanup|Statistics Table}}
[[Image:Strongbadsblounskched.png|thumb|"You got SBLOUNSKCHED!"]]
Especially in the early years of [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]]'s mouth has been most often seen to be in a slight frown, usually in a rectangular or round (when he talks) shape. His mouth was curved in such a way as to suggest he is often upset. However, there have also been plenty of times when he has '''smiled''', an effect created by slightly distorting the upper part of Strong Bad's rectangular mouth, turning his expression into an unmistakable smile. While some of these smiles were in reaction to or anticipation of his usual misdeeds, he has also found other reasons to smile. As Strong Bad became a more prominent character over the years, the rate at which he would smile noticeably increased. Although crude drawings of Strong Bad may have their own variations of this phenomenon, the real Strong Bad has, and, most likely, always will have the same, bizarre, distorted rectangle of a smile.

Smiling became a more-or-less common and normal part of Strong Bad's character around 2006. Only select instances of smiling since then are listed.

==Select Appearances==
===Evil Smiles===
*[[A Jorb Well Done]] — Strong Bad smiles while trying to get [[Coach Z]] to say the word "job", then bursts out laughing as he, [[Strong Mad]] and [[The Cheat]] ridicule the coach for not being able to say the word.
*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] — If the steak is chosen as [[Marzipan]]'s treat, Strong Bad appears and grins as he sneaks a few more steaks into her bag.
*Email [[origins]] — Lil' Strong Bad smiles after he gets a drill for his birthday (which he uses on [[Strong Sad]], resulting in his belly button).
*[[TrogdorCon '97]] — Strong Bad smiles while calling Strong Sad a butt for claiming that it was 2005, not 1997. He also smiles when he and The Cheat go over to the [[The King of Town|authorized Godzilla reseller]]'s booth and attack the reseller with pea soup.
*Email [[candy product]] — During the commercial for SBLOUNSKCHED!, Strong Bad is smiling.

===Notable Other Appearances===
*[[The Secrets That I Keep]] — [[Lil' Strong Bad]] smiles for the camera as does young Strong Sad.
*[[Halloween Awards Show]] — While Strong Bad is behind the podium thanking The Cheat and Bubs, he smiles.
*Email [[stand-up]] — Lil' Strong Bad grins nervously while doing stand-up comedy (with disastrous results).
*Email [[suntan]] — Strong Bad grins at Marzipan after drawing abs on his stomach.
*Email [[no loafing]] — In the picture showing Strong Bad with the [[No Loafing Sign]], Strong Bad is smiling.
*Email [[for kids]] — Strong Bad is seen smiling into the camera on his TV show.
*Email [[montage]] — During his date with the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], Strong Bad is smiling.
*Email [[best thing]] — Strong Bad smiles and laughs while watching [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]].
*Email [[rampage]] — Strong Bad smiles and laughs with Coach Z when they joke about Strong Sad being a "master of ceremonies".
*[[Senorial Day]] — While trying to play football with [[Senor Cardgage]], Strong Bad smiles.
*Email [[modeling]] — While posing for magazine photos, Strong Bad smiles.
*Email [[Family Resemblence]] — In the Birds Of A Feather postcard, Strong Bad smiles.
*Email [[record book]] — In a photograph accompanying Lil' Strong Bad's record for Dirtiest Diapey, he is smiling.
*Another [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-09-22|sketchbook]] item pictured an extremely happy and smiling "[[Dreamaway Johnny]]" version of Strong Bad.
*Email [[geddup noise]] — As he introduces one of the many [[The Geddup Noise|Geddup Noise]] knockoffs: "The Git Outcha Seat Sound", Strong Bad smiles.
*Email [[alternate universe]] — Strong Bad smiles after asking other Strong Bads to do a song. He also smiles after saying hello to Senor Cardgage's tacklebox.
*Email [[isp]] — When Strong Bad and Bubs see Strong Mad talking in a high-pitch voice, Strong Bad grins as they all laugh psychotically.
*Email [[4 branches]] — Strong Bad is happy to know that there are free bagels at the water cooler.
*[[Date Nite]] — After Strong Bad says "drowning them", he smiles slightly.
*Email [[concert]] — Strong Bad smiles while telling [[Homestar Runner]] about [[sloshy]].
*[[Jibblies 2]] — To stay in character as Beetlejuice, Strong Bad smiles throughout most of the toon.
*[[Behind the Bad Chapter 1: The New Hire]] — Strong Bad smiles while entering his office.
*Email [[email thunder]] — Strong Bad is delighted to see [[The Paper]] return.
*[[Most in the Graveyard]] — Strong Bad's fake mouth in his costume of the planet from the cover of ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' has an open smiling grin on it.
*[[Kick-A-Ball]] — Strong Bad smiles when he hears that Homestar cheated, and lost (almost).
*[[79 Seconds Left]] — Strong Bad smiles when he pours water on his knee.
*Email [[hremail3184]] — Strong Bad can be seen smiling when [[Senor Cardgage]] first shows up in his house.

==Screenshots of Strong Bad Smiling==
<gallery>
Image:Secrets-smiling.png|Happy brothers
Image:oldstrongbad.png|"Next time, try to add some more syllables."
Image:SB-smiling-steaks.png|"Is this a joke? It's not funny."
Image:littlestrongbadstandup.png|"How about this cafeteria food?"
Image:SB Halloween Award.png|"We did it, little buddy!"
Image:SB suntan smile.png|"Oops, forgot the hatching."
Image:No Loafing!.PNG|"A sign that said 'No Loafing!' was the answer."
Image:sbemail110.png|"Can you say, 'a-The Cheat'?"
Image:sbemail117.png|Dating the Wagon Fulla Pancakes
Image:bellybutton.PNG|How Strong Sad got his belly button
Image:SB-smile-limo.png|"Oh-ho-ho! So classic!"
Image:rampage CoachZ SB.png|"What part of the streets are you from, exactly?"
Image:senorialsmall.PNG|"Hit me on the slant!"
Image:sbemail132.PNG|"I'll pencil you in."
Image:Strong Bad Smiling DVD.PNG|...Flock together?
Image:littlestrongbaddirtiestdiapey.png|Dirtiest Diapey
Image:Trogcon-smile.png|"It might be for you, but... you're a butt."
Image:The Git Outcha Seat Sound.png|"And now, everybody's favorite style..."
Image:20050922 sketchbook dreamaway johnny.PNG|Dreamaway Johnny
Image:Fishingwithcardgage.png|"You're gonna adopt me?"
Image:SBPsychotic.png|Strong Mad's a website!
Image:Strongbadsmiling4branches.PNG|"I'm sorry, ma'am, free bagels just happened."
Image:Sbslhoshy.PNG|"Slosh-ay!"
Image:Halloween 2007 Strong Bad.PNG|"That's a keeper."
Image:Behindthegrin.png| "And here is your office."
Image:SB smiling email thunder.png|"The Paper! You came back!"
Image:Strong Bad as The Planet on the Cover of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.png|"What's the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything?"
Image:badsmile3184crop.PNG|"You gunna help me come outta e-tirement?"</gallery>

==Statistics of Strong Bad Smiling==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Year !! Number of Toons in which Strong Bad appeared onscreen !! Number of Times in which Strong Bad smiled !! Percentage of Toons in which Strong Bad smiled
|-
| 2000 || 9 || 0 || 0%
|-
| 2001 || 15 || 2 || 13%
|-
| 2002 || 56 || 2 || 3.6%
|-
| 2003 || 43 || 2 || 5%
|-
| 2004 || 37 || 4 || 10.8%
|-
| 2005 || 38 || 10 || 26.3%
|-
| 2006 || 32 || 9 || 28.1%
|-
| 2007 || 32 || 8 || 25%
|-
| 2008 || 30 || 14 || 46.7%
|-
| 2009 || 15 || 7 || 47%
|}

==See also==
*[[Strong Mad Smiling]]
*[[Strong Sad Smiling]]
*[[The Cheat Smiling]]

[[Category:Lists]][[Category:Recurring Themes]]

Date Nite

AbdiViklas — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:17:58 GMT

AbdiViklas: undid revision 690778; That could be the paper top of his hat

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{{toonnav|Big Toon|datenite|Strongest Man in the World|DNA Evidence}}
[[Image:Marzipan eyelashes Homestar Date Nite.png|thumb|"Whoa-ho, Marzipan! You look like a fox's mother!"]]

Homestar and Strong Bad attempt to ruin Marzipan and The Cheat's date.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's L'est Stand]], [[The Stone Bridge]], [[USS Flirtini|USS ''Flirtini'']], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strong Sad's Room]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Tuesday, April 24, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:17

'''Page Title:''' Meet me on down at the Chez Perez!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 3}}

==Transcript==
''{Scene in Marzipan's house, where Marzipan is applying mascara while looking in a hall mirror. She is already wearing lipstick. A drum beat is heard. After a few seconds, Homestar enters from the right and the drum beat fades out.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa-ho, Marzipan! You look like a fox's mother!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Still looking in mirror}'' Homestar, if you're trying to say I'm a "foxy mama", that's actually ''more'' offensive.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right, right. You know what I mean. The more offensive one. So where are we goin' tonight? ''{leans over}'' The Chez Perez? ''{"Chez" is mispronounced to rhyme with "Perez"}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Still looking at the mirror}'' Uh, no. I have a hot date with The Cheat, thank you very much. I suspect ''you'll'' probably stay home and run in place or something.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well I ''was'' planning to—you WHAT?! ''{Jumps up in the air, eyes bugging out}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad's basement, where The Cheat is applying a fake mustache with Strong Bad looking on}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You WHAT?! ''{Jumps up in the air, then starts quivering with rage}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I can't believe this, The Cheat!

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar in Marzipan's house}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I can't believe you're The Cheating on me! ''{Pull back to include Marzipan, still at the mirror}'' So what are you saying? That you ''{looking worried}'' —GULP— ''{leans over}'' want his bod?

''{Cut back to a close up of Strong Bad in his basement}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You can't even call that thing a bod! At best it's a broom or a—

''{Cut back to Homestar, looking angry}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —Trivial Pursuit cheese wedge!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Turning away from the mirror and brandishing mascara brush}'' Look, Homestar, it's just a date. ''{jabs the mascara brush towards Homestar twice}'' This has always been an open relationship.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa-ho-ho-says you. I've turned down more foxes' mothers than I can count just to stay loyal to you!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Dryly}'' So, four, then?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, that's rich. Ms. Smarty Pants, eh?

''{Cut back to Strong Bad's basement}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mr. Smarty Spots, huh? Well—

''{Scene starts switching between locations as Strong Bad and Homestar alternate words}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —why—

'''STRONG BAD:''' —don't—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —you—

'''STRONG BAD:''' —just—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —go a—

'''STRONG BAD:''' —head—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —and—

''{Cuts to Strong Bad and Homestar inexplicably together in Marzipan's house, yelling:}''

'''STRONG BAD AND HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —GET OUTTA MY FACE!

''{Both open their eyes}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Looking around}'' Wait, what?

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the crap...?

''{Cut back to Strong Bad's basement where Marzipan and The Cheat are standing in front of the couch.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Come on, The Cheat. Let's go.

''{The Cheat crooks his arm as if to allow Marzipan to loop her arm through it. Marzipan stands next to him and leans over as if taking his arm in hers, and the two exit together. Music starts playing.}''

''{Cut to title screen, a pink square on a light blue background. On each note of the melody, the letters "Da" and "ni" appear on the left side of the square, one on top of the other, then a large "Te" appears on the right to form the words "DaTe" and "niTe". The "e" falls against the title frame.}''

''{Cut back to Marzipan's house, this time to the living room. Homestar and Strong Bad are drinking 'old Ones, Strong Bad sitting on the couch, Homestar lying on the floor with his feet on the couch. Strong Bad is shaking his head.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. Man. Seriously, Strong Strong, we've ''gotta'' do something about ''this''.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ordinarily, I just drown my sorrows in video games, but for ''this'', ''{Close up of Strong Bad, rubbing his chin}'' maybe I should drown them in... drowning ''them''! ''{Smiles}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Sitting up}'' Uh, maybe let's not kill anybody. We should just try and ruin their date.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Mainly, I just want to keep 'em from making out.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Dropping 'old One bottle, starts rubbing his arms}'' Ewww! The disgust! It won't wash off!

''{Scene transitions to Marshmallow's Last Stand, where The Cheat and Marzipan are sitting in a booth, holding menus. Both the menus and a sign near the door read "Marshmallow's L'est Stand". A candle sits in the center of the table.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Questioning The Cheat noises}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Why, yes, The Cheat, I would be ''very'' comfortable with you saying something about my figure. Thank you for asking first.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes a sound reminiscent of a wolf-whistle}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Puts down menu}'' Ew. Not ''that'' comfortable.

''{Homestar comes running up in his waiter uniform from Summer Short Shorts. A record scratch sound effect is heard.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, good evening, ungodly couple. ''{The Cheat puts down his menu}'' My name is Waiter, I will be your Homestar for this evening. Can I start you two off with a glass of "Breaking Up", or perhaps "Never Seeing Each Other Again" with capers?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Angry The Cheat noises, waving a fist}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Why, yes, The Cheat, I ''would'' be comfortable with you "cleaning my clock"! Thanks for asking first!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Angrier The Cheat noises, more threatening gestures}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahhhh! ''{Takes off in a cloud of dust, after a few seconds, pops down from the top border}'' Can I settle up with you guys? My shift's over.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{more angry The Cheat noises and threatening gestures.}''

''{Homestar ducks offscreen. Cut to later, close up of Marzipan with a plate with crumbs and a small piece of marshmallow.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Mmmmm, my almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. ''{Cut out to include The Cheat sitting in front of an empty hot dog wrapper with ketchup and a couple of french fries around it.}'' How was your hot dog?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Bad runs up, dressed up as an Italian chef, complete with fake mustache. Italian music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Fake Italian accent}'' Oh-a, it's-a me! ''{Close up}'' The chef-a! A-which-a one o' you guys ordered the smack-in-the-face-a? ''{Italian music stops}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{Annoyed}'' I thought this was a French restaurant.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Regular voice}'' Oh. Ummmmmmmmm, uh... S-snails?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Come on, T.C., let's blow this marshmallow stand. ''{Marzipan and The Cheat get up and walk away offscreen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, y'know, I--I didn't really research this role.

''{As the screen blacks out, Strong Bad's fake mustache falls off}''

''{Fade in to Marzipan and The Cheat crossing The Stone Bridge in the moonlight}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Excited The Cheat noises, gesturing}''

''{They stop at the top of the bridge}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's so crazy! I've always wanted to see Ira Glass and Ira Flatow wrestle, too.

''{From out of the water comes a periscope, apparently made out of cardboard tubes and duct tape. Cut to the view of Marzipan and The Cheat from the periscope. A repetitive sonar-like "boo" sound is heard in the background}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This has been such a great date, The Cheat. I don't know what could possibly ruin it.

''{Cut to inside of cardboard submarine. Strong Bad is looking away from the periscope with Homestar standing right behind, wearing a sailor hat and simulating sonar noises. Water is streaming down the walls and dripping from the ceiling.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Verify our range to target! Flood tubes three and four! Hunt for Red October!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aye aye, sir! ...Boo...

''{Cut to surface. The "submarine" surfaces. It is a cardboard box with the words "USS FLIRTINI" on the side. Strong Bad and Homestar pop out, revealing fireworks duct-taped to the insides of the box flaps.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' FIRE!

''{Homestar and Strong Bad light a match and the BMW Lighter, respectively, and light the fireworks. View changes to include the bridge and its occupants. After a couple seconds, the fireworks simultaneously propel the submarine backwards offscreen and fly forwards.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER AND STRONG BAD:''' WAAAH!

''{The fireworks execute a loop in the air, and fly past Marzipan and The Cheat, startling them. Cut to a view of the sky where the fireworks go off in a grand display. Marzipan and The Cheat's silhouettes can be seen in the foreground.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooooh, it's so romantic...

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Sighs}''

''{Marzipan and The Cheat lean close to each other}''

''{Cut to view of the surface of a large body of water. Homestar and Strong Bad are leaning out the top of the "submarine" as the fireworks flash, singing the Strong Badia national anthem as it sinks.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing}'' Come to the place where the tropical breezes blow... ''{Last word is garbled as he is submerged}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Singing along}'' Da da da da dada dadada dada daaaaaaah...

''{Cut to Marzipan's front hall, later. The sound of the front door opening and closing is heard, followed by Marzipan walking down the hall until she finds Homestar, running in place angrily. Homestar notices her, and stops mid-step.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Sulkingly}'' Oh, if it isn't Marzipan. ''{Steps down}'' Oh, I'm sorry, or was it "The Marzipan", now?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, you'll be happy to know it didn't work out between us. I found out The Cheat is declawed, and I just don't think I could be with someone that supports that kind of cruelty.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Delighted}'' And now you've come crawlin' back to the ol' fox's father!

'''MARZIPAN:''' No, I just came to change outfits for my next date with Bubs at the all-night waffle place!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You WHAT?! ''{Jumps up in the air, eyes bugging out}''

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is straightening a black bow tie, while Coach Z is standing behind him wearing hair curlers and brandishing a rolling pin.}''

'''COACH Z:''' You WHORT?!

''{Cut to end screen, the pink box on light blue background, with the word "end" in the box. Music plays. After a few seconds, "back" appears at the bottom.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Rage-o.png|thumb|Public RAGE-O]]
*At the end, click on the period to hear the public radio station on the [[booOOMbox]] in Strong Sad's room:
:''{Cut to close-up of booOOMbox}''
:'''RADIO ANNOUNCER''': And join us next Saturday at some civic hall auditorium for "Public Rage-o."
:''{A flyer for the Public RAGE-O appears}''
:All your favorite public radio superstars will be in action. Watch as Ira Glass and Ira Flatow duke it out in a no-holds-barred lumberjack match. And special guest Garrison Keillor wrestles his own soothing voice... ''{cut to Strong Sad looking bewildered}'' ...in a steel cage.
:''{The Public Radio Sounds music plays}''
:'''STRONG SAD''': Oh, geez, I gotta pledge more next year. They're really getting desperate.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*An [[Wikipedia:open relationship|open relationship]] is a relationship (usually between two people) in which participants are free to take other partners.
*"L'est" is a contraction of the French word for "the" and the French word for "is" or "east". "Chez" (which Homestar [[Foreign Words|mispronounces]]) means "At the home of" and is often used in names of fancy French restaurants.
*Marzipan's statement "let's blow this marshmallow stand" is a reference to the idiom [[Wiktionary:blow this popsicle stand|"blow this Popsicle stand"]].
*The phrase "in the Squared Circle" (from the Easter egg) comes from the old tradition of fights being held inside of a crowd of onlookers who would form a circle around the combatants. When the official square shaped fighting area was introduced, this nickname developed.
*A [[Wikipedia:Professional wrestling match types#Lumberjack match|lumberjack match]] is a match in [[professional wrestling]] in which other athletes, usually [[Wikipedia:Job (professional wrestling)#Jobbers|jobbers]], stand around the outside of the ring in order to prevent a ring-out.
*No-Holds-Barred is a professional wrestling term for no disqualifications or count outs.
*Strong Bad's mention of "snails" refers to the French dish [[Wikipedia:Escargot|escargot]].
*A [http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink7333.html flirtini] is a cocktail made of champagne, vodka, and pineapple juice.
*Strong Bad sinking with the ''USS Flirtini'' is a reference to the captain sinking with the ship, a noble move that a captain does whilst the ship is sinking.
*Public radio stations are often supported by [[Wikipedia:Pledge drive|pledge drives]], in which regular broadcasting is interrupted by announcers requesting financial contributions from listeners.
*Marzipan's "Chilean sea marshmallow" is a play on the fish [[wikipedia:Chilean Sea Bass|Chilean sea bass]].
*[[Wikipedia:Caper#Culinary Uses|Capers]] are pickled and salted buds of the caper plant that are often used as a seasoning or garnish, especially in Mediterranean cuisine.
*[[Wikipedia:Onychectomy|Declawing]] is a controversial surgery occasionally done on cats in which the first segment on each digit of a paw is removed to prevent scratching.
* Homestar vocally makes the sound "ping" while in the "USS Flirtini" to substitute for the [[Wikipedia:sonar|sonar]] sounds of a real submarine.
*The range to a target is verified with active sonar pinging a target.
*The order "Flood tubes three and four" means to flood the torpedo tubes with water in preparation to fire torpedoes or submarine sound decoys.
===Trivia===
*Marzipan's mascara tube reads "Hot Vegan".
*Strong Bad and Homestar are drinking [[Cold One|'old ones]].
*The bubbling sound heard when the USS ''Flirtini'' sinks is the same sound effect used when [[Pom Pom]] speaks.
*The tape in the booOOMbox in the Easter egg reads "normal [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|bias]]" and appeared previously in [[geddup noise]].
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad smiling]].
*In the scene that quickly cuts between Strong Bad and Homestar yelling, Marzipan's mirror is visible behind Strong Bad as he yells "—head".

===Remarks===
*The synopsis asks if Homestar and Marzipan are finally going on a date, but they went out in the email [[date]], and also in the email [[senior prom]].
*In the mascara's reflection in the mirror, the words appear forwards, not reversed like they would be in a real mirror.
*When Marzipan talks to Homestar after her date, you can see that the shading on the right of her dress is missing in her closeup. However, when the screen zooms out to show Homestar and Marzipan, the shading on her dress is back to normal.
*Coach Z wears curlers in this cartoon, suggesting he does have hair. Though he appears bald when he loses his hat in [[caffeine]], he has been shown having a mustache and afro when he was younger.
*Although Marzipan suggests that Homestar Runner can only count up to three, he counts to five in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].
*In [[Happy Fireworks]], Homestar suggests that Marzipan doesn't like fireworks and that she thinks they "promote violence." However, she refers to them as "romantic" when she watches them in this cartoon.

*The stones in the stone bridge look different than they do in [[personal favorites]]. (The stone are aligned in an arch here rather than horizontal, as they were in personal favorites.)
*Marzipan seems to have no problem with The Cheat eating a hot dog, despite her strong stance regarding products made from animals.

===Goofs===
*When Marzipan allows The Cheat to compliment her, a bit of her hair is shown disconnected with the rest.
*When the fireworks are going off, the bushes in the background are cut off on the left side.
*If you look closely, Marzipan's mouth (part of it) is seen fully visible in the mirror.
*After Marzipan gets up from the bench in Marshmallow's Last Stand, the outline on her dress goes outside her dress for a split second.
*Currently, if the random toon button lands on this cartoon, it will send you to The Strongest Man in the World Contest.
*When The Cheat and Marzipan are walking up the bridge, Marzipan's smile is her older version.

===Fixed Goofs===
[[Image:datenite rockets.PNG|thumb|Come to the place where fireworks reappear...]]
*When first released the fireworks were still visibly attached to the USS ''Flirtini'' as it sank after they had been launched.

===Inside References===
*In [[long pants]], Marzipan says that everybody claims her figure looks like a broom.
**In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]], Homestar calls Marzipan, "You old broomstick!"
*The Cheat is again compared to cheese (in this case, a Trivial Pursuit cheese wedge), as was the case in [[huttah!]].
*Instead of actually gulping, Homestar merely ''says'' his gulp, which is what [[Fightgar]] did when [[Gunhaver]] ordered him to do some "undercover work" in [[Shopping for Danger]]. This, of course, is an example of [[fake sound effects]].
*"Seriously, Strong Strong" is a nod to Homestar's classic line, "[[Seriously|Seriously, Pom Pom]]."
*Homestar's disagreement with Strong Bad to kill Marzipan and The Cheat is a reference to [[death]].
*The candle and romantic music are from [[do over]].
*Homestar's "L'[[egg]]" hat and waiter outfit are similar to the outfit he wore in [[Summer Short Shorts]], where the hat simply read "Egg".
*The stone bridge where Marzipan and The Cheat go at night is from [[personal favorites]].
*The rockets are [[Fthoom-Bang]] brand bottle rockets duct-taped together just like in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], in which Strong Bad refers to them as "Explosives". Both misuses instantly result in failure for his objective.
*Strong Bad's fake mustache bears a striking resemblance to the one on his [[Old-Timey Strong Bad|Old-Timey counterpart]].
*While the USS ''Flirtini'' is sinking, the song that Strong Bad sings and Homestar hums is the [[Strong Badia National Anthem]].
**They're also slightly [[Singing Out Of Tune|off-key]].
*Coach Z was previously portrayed as a mother in [[garage sale]].
*This toon contains another instance of [[mustaches]].
*"The Marzipan" is a nod to the [[integral article]] in The Cheat's name.
**Marzipan was also referred to as "The Marzipan" in [[Who Said What Now?]].
*During the Easter egg, the [[Public Radio Sound]] music from [[radio]] is heard.
*Homestar (who was speaking for [[Cardboard Marzipan]] at the time) asked The Cheat if he wanted to go on a "secret hot date" with her in [[Happy Fireworks]]. Homestar also called Bubs, as Cardboard Marzipan, a "gorgeous hunk of man".
**An Easter Egg from [[do over]] showed Marzipan with The Cheat disguised as Homestar and covered in lipstick kisses.
*Strong Bad uses the [[BMW Lighter]] to light the fireworks aboard the USS ''Flirtini''.
*The outro to the Public Radio Commercial is the same song as the [[Videlectrix]]'s intro to games.
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad smiling]]

===Real-World References===
*''[[Wikipedia:The Hunt for Red October|The Hunt for Red October]]'' was the first novel by [[Wikipedia:Tom Clancy|Tom Clancy]], which was later made into a [[Wikipedia:The Hunt for Red October (film)|film]] and [[Wikipedia:The Hunt for Red October (video game)|video game]]. The book and the film deal heavily with submarine warfare.
*[[Wikipedia:Ira Glass|Ira Glass]] and [[Wikipedia:Ira Flatow|Ira Flatow]] are [[Wikipedia:Public broadcasting|public radio]] hosts. Glass hosts ''[[Wikipedia:This American Life|This American Life]]'' on [[Wikipedia:Public Radio International|Public Radio International]], and Flatow hosts ''[[Wikipedia:Talk of the Nation - Science Friday|Talk of the Nation - Science Friday]]'' on [[Wikipedia:National Public Radio|National Public Radio]].
*[[Wikipedia:Garrison Keillor|Garrison Keillor]] hosts ''[[Wikipedia:A Prairie Home Companion|A Prairie Home Companion]]'' from [[Wikipedia:American Public Media|American Public Media]], and also writes a syndicated column for newspapers.
*[[Wikipedia:Trivial Pursuit|Trivial Pursuit]] is a board game in which players earn wedge-shaped game pieces for answering trivia questions correctly.
*The sentence in the Public Rage-O ad reading, "The most electrifying wrestling event in sports infotainment!" is a parody of the line "The most electrifying man in sports entertainment!" made famous by WWE wrestler [[Wikipedia:The Rock (entertainer)|The Rock]].
*After finishing her marshmallow, Marzipan almost exactly quotes an [[Wikipedia:Archie Comics|Archie Comics]] cover where [[Wikipedia:Archie Andrews (comics)|Archie]] and [[Wikipedia:Veronica Lodge|Veronica]] are exiting a fancy restaurant. Veronica tells Archie she enjoyed her lobster, then asks him, "How was your hot dog?"
*Homestar and Strong Bad singing the Strong Badian National Anthem while the USS Flirtini sinks is a reference to musicians on the [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] playing the hymn [[Wikipedia:Nearer, My God, To Thee|Nearer, My God, To Thee.]]

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Oh man, Mike!

'''MIKE:''' What's up? What're— What're you so— so— so worried about, Matt?

'''MATT:''' Homestar's really in for it here in a second.

'''MIKE:''' Oh. This is something we had talked about doing for a long time: The Cheat and Marzipan.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, well, 'cause we were gonna do it... right after— there's a... old cartoon where she says she's breaking up with him. She tells Homestar— it's one of the first times you hear her actually say, "I'm breaking up with you."

'''MIKE:''' Mm-hmm.

'''MATT:''' And I think, like, right after that we were thinking of making this cartoon where then... Homestar's like, "Oh, what time are we going to dinner?" And she's like, "I'm going on a date with The Cheat; I've been dating him for a while."

'''MIKE:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' She was gonna dye her hair black, too. It was something we had thought about.

''{pause during Homestar's "want his bod" line}''

'''MATT:''' That was a line I wrote for that... proposed cartoon, like—

'''MIKE:''' Oh, really?

'''MATT:''' —from, like, four years ago or something.

''{pause during Homestar and Marzipan's conversation}''

'''MATT:''' I like that Marzipan all— isn't above make up and stuff. She's kind of a total hippie but then she's like... you know... she's gonna get— she's girly.

'''MIKE:''' Wasn't there— what's the name of her make up? I know you can't read it here but—

'''MATT:''' Oh, is it somethin' soy or somethin'?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, isn't her make up like...

'''MATT:''' Yeah it's probably eco...

'''MIKE:''' Eco-friendly?

'''MATT:''' They just— they just edited themselves into the same room!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' The Cheat's 'stache is pretty good there.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Marzipan had to reach down way low to hook her arm under The Cheat's elbow.

''{pause while Homestar begins talking to Strong Bad}''

'''MATT:''' I like that these guys are just hanging out havin' some Cold Ones together. Some Old Ones together, rather.

'''MIKE:''' In... presumably Marzipan's house?

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah, I think. We still haven't decided whose... I think Homestar and Marzipan live in different houses, but... ''{Mike begins talking}'' They seem to hang out in the same one.

'''MIKE:''' ''{while Matt is talking}'' It seems like that's pretty much Marzipan's.

'''MATT:''' Yeah yeah, definitely.

'''MIKE:''' The kitchen is definitely up in the air as to whose...

'''MATT:''' Yeah. And Homestar's bedroom is clearly in his own house.

'''MIKE:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' Oh, Marshmallow's ''{in eccentric French accent}'' L'est Stand.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' What about my Chaup au Fan, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Is the...

'''MATT:''' What do you think The Cheat said? That's gross, The Cheat. So did it just say 'egg' before or did it always say 'l'egg'? ''{referring to Homestar's hat}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{while Matt is still talking}'' Yeah, in the Summer Short Shorts it says 'egg'.

'''MATT:''' Okay...

'''MIKE:''' When, uh, the one where The Cheat's trying to eat a million... er, a bunch of french fries.

'''MATT:''' Right.

'''MIKE:''' And this voice is provided by your, your newborn daughter.

'''MATT:''' That's right, she's like a month old.

'''MIKE:''' My baby doesn't make Cheat noises. She makes cute sounds but they don't sound like, she never had that Cheat phase like your daughter did. I like your Italian music that you had, you made that.

'''MATT:''' ''{while Mike is talking}'' You like that? ''{after a while}'' You've got those little plastic hot dog trays, don't you Mike?

'''MIKE:''' I do. I almost bought some plastic popcorn... that were like at movies.

'''MATT:''' ''{while Mike is still talking}'' ''We've'' got those.

'''MIKE:''' Do you have those? I saw those I think, at the, at the "One Spot" at Target a couple, a month or two ago.

'''MATT:''' The triumphant return of the stone bridge, Mike!

'''MIKE:''' Is this the first time it's been seen since the knife fight between Pom Pom and Coach Z?

'''MATT:''' I think so, yeah. And uh, I don't, you never, didn't really know for sure if it was a real place.

'''MIKE:''' Now we know.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. I'm a big fan of "The Hunt for Red October", Mike.

'''MIKE:''' I know. I know that. Originally there were some inconsistencies with that, oh, no, it's up here. It's when they're sinking, originally I still had the, uh...

'''MATT:''' The fireworks?

'''MIKE:''' The fireworks were on the side of the box...

'''MATT:''' Oh...

'''MIKE:''' ...and the wiki...

'''MATT:''' They just reloaded it!

'''MIKE:''' It was like that for a couple, for a couple hours probably.

'''MATT:''' They got the guys down in the torpedo room to flood tubes three and four again. ''{They both laugh.}'' He ''did'' end up walking, uh, running in place, Mike. When do, what do you think, uh, would be something else that would make Strong Bad and Homestar team up together?

'''MIKE:''' If everybody else in town was frozen.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, and they had to team up to un-freeze them.

'''MATT:''' Who froze them Mike, the Unguraits?

'''MIKE:''' May... it is ungreat. I have the 'ungreats'.

=== Fun Facts ===
*The early toon where Marzipan decides to break up with Homestar was likely [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], in which Homestar (or rather, Strong Bad dressed as Homestar) gives her pumpkin entry a "last place" ribbon and she retaliates by threatening to part with him.
*"Chaup au Fan" was previously referenced in [[your funeral]].
*[[Wikipedia:Target Corporation|Target]] is an American mass merchandise retailer, the fifth-largest by sales revenue in the United States.
*Matt mentions The Unguraits, who are rejected characters.

==External Links==
*[[HR:datenite.html|watch "Date Nite"]]
*[[HR:datenite.swf|view the Flash file for "Date Nite"]]
*[[Forum:11290|forum thread re: "Date Nite"]]

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[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

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Many users choose to add [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Userboxes|userboxes]] to their user pages. These boxes are arranged in a tower-like formation to give visitors information on the user. The Homestar Runner Wiki has Homestar-specific userboxes that you can add to your user page.

==Directions==
*To begin your userbox tower, type '''<code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki></code>'''
*Add userbox blocks by copying and pasting the code listed under "source" below. Each box must be on its own line (press Enter/Return after each paste).
*To end your tower, type '''<code><nowiki>|}</nowiki></code>'''.

=== Optional parameters ===
The following parameters can be used alone or in conjunction with each other:
;title : Example: '''<code><nowiki>{{userboxtop|title=Text you want to appear}}</nowiki></code>'''. This parameter allows you to change the text at the top of your tower. It can also be expressed simply as '''<code><nowiki>{{userboxtop|Text you want to appear}}</nowiki></code>''' without declaring <code>title</code>.
;id : Example: '''<code><nowiki>{{userboxtop|id=userboxes2}}</nowiki></code>'''. This parameter is required for your page to [[HRWiki:Validation committee|validate]] if you have a second userbox tower (all ids must be unique).
;background : Example: '''<code><nowiki>{{userboxtop|background=#FFF}}</nowiki></code>'''. This can be set to any value allowed on the wiki for tables (a color name, a color value, or a local image).
 
<div style="background:#FFC;padding:8px;border:solid 1px #DC9">

===Important===
'''The standards for what is appropriate for [[HRWiki:User space#What should I avoid?|user pages]] have not changed.''' Please keep these boxes '''positive''' and related to your '''Homestar Runner experience''' (favorite toon, what you like to do ''on the wiki'', etc.). Thank you for remembering what the wiki is about.
</div>

===Example===
{| border=1 cellpadding="5" style="border-collapse: collapse"
|- style="background: #EEE"
! Code !! Result
|-
|
<code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki></code> 
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#15317E | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:sbemail55.PNG|53px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFE600 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Seriouslymacintosh.png|40px]] | msg=This user uses a '''[[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Mac]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99C6EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Internet Explorer Logo.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#ED9121 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF |
codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ffox.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]]'''.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<div style="padding-left: 2em; text-indent: -2em">
<code><nowiki>{{userbox | border=#00008B | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=CUST | msg=This user likes to create customized user boxes.}}</nowiki></code> 
</div>
<code><nowiki>|}</nowiki></code> 
|
{{userboxtop}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCCCCC|codebkgd=#15317E|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:sbemail55.PNG|53px]]|msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFE600|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Seriouslymacintosh.png|40px]]|msg=This user uses a '''[[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Mac]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99C6EE|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Internet Explorer Logo.png|53px]]|msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#ED9121|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Ffox.png|53px]]|msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]]'''.}}
{{userbox|border=#00008B|mainbkgd=#F5F5F5|codebkgd=#0000CD|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=CUST|msg=This user likes to create customized user boxes.}}
|}
|}
{{clear}}

==Templates==
=== Wiki Info ===
<userboxsamples>
{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=ADM | msg=This user is a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|admin]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=SYS | msg=This user is a wiki '''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|sysop]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFFF00 | mainbkgd=#FFFF00 | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#000000 | code=FAN | msg=This user also contributes to the '''[[HRFWiki:|Fanstuff Wiki]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#0099FF | mainbkgd=#CCDDFF | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#000000 | code=FRM | msg=This user also contributes to the '''[http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Wiki Forum]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#708090 | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#696969 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=TAVI | msg=This user was on '''[[HRWiki:A History#The beginnings and early days|Ye Olde Wiki]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#006400 | mainbkgd=#ADFF2F | codebkgd=#2E8B57 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:HomsarPotion-ma-jig.png|30px]] | msg=This user enjoys doing '''[[HRWiki:WikiGnome|Gnome work]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#708090 | mainbkgd=#F0F8FF | codebkgd=#696969 | codecolor=#B0E0E6 | code=RV | msg=This user often finds and reverts '''[[HRWiki:WikiTroll|vandalism]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF6103 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FF6103 | code=RC | msg=This user patrols '''[[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CC6666 | codebkgd=#FF6666 | codecolor=#000000 | code=HI | msg=This user is on the '''[[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|welcoming committee]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000 | mainbkgd=#3FF | codebkgd=#09F | codecolor=#000 | code='''<val />''' | msg=This user is on the '''[[HRWiki:Validation committee|validation committee]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=[[Image:Subtitles Project Logo.png|42px]] | msg=This user works on the '''[[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitles project]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000 | mainbkgd=#CCF | codebkgd=#30f | codecolor=#000 | code=IRC | msg=This user visits the '''[[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC channel]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000 | mainbkgd=#5B90F6 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FF91912 | code=[[Image:Carolcropped.png|42px]] | msg=This user is working on transcribing Homestar-related guitar tabs.}}

</userboxsamples>

=== Internet/Computer Related ===
<userboxsamples>
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#15317E | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:sbemail55.PNG|53px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Windows]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFE600 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Seriouslymacintosh.png|40px]] | msg=This user uses a '''[[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Mac]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#5FCA75 | codebkgd=#A90000 | codecolor=#0036ff | code=[[Image:37 tux linux penguin.png|53px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:Linux|Linux]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#F26711 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:NetBSD-smaller.png|45px]] | msg=This user uses '''[[Wikipedia:NetBSD|NetBSD]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=CL | msg=This user understands [[Wikipedia:Computing Language Here|A Computing Language]]}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FF0000 | code=<? | msg=This user understands [[Wikipedia:Web Programming Language Here|A Web Programming Language]]}}

{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#F26711|codebkgd=#FF9900|codecolor=#000000|code= [[Image:Main22TangerineDreams.PNG|46px]]|msg=This user can animate [[Flash]].}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99C6EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Internet Explorer Logo.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#ED9121 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ffox.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#9966EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Safari Userbox.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Safari (web browser)|Safari]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#E0FFFF | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Netscape userbox.gif|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Netscape|Netscape]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#6699CC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Seamonkey96.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:SeaMonkey|SeaMonkey]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#F26711 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Earthlink Logo.jpg|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:EarthLink|EarthLink]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99C6EE | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ace explorer logo.png]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[http://www.aceexplorer.com Ace Explorer]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#E0FFFF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:GoogleChromeLogo.png|53px]] | msg=This user contributes using '''[[Wikipedia:Google Chrome|Google Chrome]]''', or the '''[[Wikipedia:Google Chrome OS|Google Chrome OS]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#E0FFFF|codebkgd=#20B2AA | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Googleicon.png|53px]] | msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[[Google:|Google]]''' search.}}

{{userbox | border=#800517 | mainbkgd=#FFF8C6 | codebkgd=#800517 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Yahooicon.png|53px]] | msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[http://www.yahoo.com/ Yahoo!]''' search.}}

{{userbox | border=#00008B | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=WP | msg=This user is also on '''[[Wikipedia:User:YourUserName|Wikipedia]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#A9A9A9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#A9A9A9 | code=TMBW | msg=This user is also on '''[[TMBW:User:YourUserName|This Might Be A Wiki]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C13F1A | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#A9A9A9 | code=[[Image:Ttgiconslarge.png|50px]] | msg=This user is also on '''[http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/member.php?find=lastposter&t=0000 Telltale Forums]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FAFAD2 | codebkgd=#F0E68C | codecolor=#000000 | code=UN | msg=This user is also on '''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/User:YourUserName Uncyclopedia]'''.}}


{{userbox | border=#00008B | mainbkgd=#F5F5F5 | codebkgd=#0000CD | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=WK | msg=This user is also on '''[http://OtherWikiUrl.com Other Wiki Name Here]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#6699CC | codebkgd=#006699 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=F! | msg=This user is on the '''[http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki HRWiki Frappr map]'''.}}\

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#333333 | codebkgd=#555555 | codecolor=gold | code=NG | msg=This user has a '''Newgrounds Account'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#6666FF | codebkgd=#66CCCC | codecolor=#3333CC | code=IM | msg=This user has an '''Instant message address'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=EM | msg=This user has an '''Email address'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFF | msg=<table width="100%"><tr style="background:#E0F5E1"><td align="center"> </td></tr><tr><td align="center">'''> [[Special:Emailuser/{{PAGENAME}}|Click here]] to'''</td></tr><tr style="background:#E0F5E1"><td align="center">'''email this user'''</td></tr></table>}}

</userboxsamples>

===User Info===
<userboxsamples>
{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=KID | msg=This user is under '''13 years old'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=TEEN | msg=This user is between '''13 and 19 years old'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#FFCC00 | codecolor=#663333 | code=OLD | msg=This user is over '''19 years old'''.}}

{{userbox | border=red | mainbkgd=purple | codebkgd=blue | codecolor=black | code=LEFT | msg=This user is '''left handed'''}}

{{userbox | border=red | mainbkgd=blue | codebkgd=purple | codecolor=white | code=RIGHT | msg=This user is '''right handed'''}}

{{userbox | border=yellow | mainbkgd=purple | codebkgd=blue | codecolor=red | code=AMBI | msg=This user is '''ambidextrous'''}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#30F | codecolor=#F00 | code=200X | msg=This user discovered the H*R website in '''insert year here'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#30F | codecolor=#F00 | code=XX | msg=This user discovered the H*R website when he/she was '''insert age here''' years old.}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#39F | codecolor=#F00 | code=200X | msg=This user discovered the H*R Wiki in '''insert year here'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FC3 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#39F | codecolor=#F00 | code=XX | msg=This user discovered the H*R Wiki when he/she was '''insert age here''' years old.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#FF0000 | codecolor=#990000 | code=F | msg=This user has had his/her [[Weekly Fanstuff YYYY#WF-YYYY-MM-DD|fanstuff]] put on the H*R Webpage.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FF0000 | code=SBE | msg=This user has had his/her [[Link to your email|Sbemail]] answered by Strong Bad.}}

{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#5FCA75|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#0036ff|code='''TOO MANY'''|msg=This user has too many freakin' userboxes.}}

</userboxsamples>

==== Location ====
<userboxsamples>

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#0000EE | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Flag of the United States.png|50px]] | msg=This user is an '''[[Wikipedia:United States|American]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#F00 | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Union jack.png|45px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Wikipedia:United Kingdom|British]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#EEE | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Canadian flag.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is a '''[[Wikipedia:Canada|Canadian]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#F00 | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:sbemail43.PNG|45px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Wikipedia:Sweden|Swedish]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=red | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#F00 | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:TempAussieFlag.png|50px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Wikipedia:Australia|Australian]]'''.}}

{{userbox||border=#000000|mainbkgd=white|codebkgd=#EEE|codecolor=blue|code=[[Image:Flag of Germany.png|45px]]|msg= This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Germany|Germany]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#F00 | mainbkgd=#FFF | codebkgd=#EEE | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Flag of france.jpg|50px]] | msg=This user is a '''[[Wikipedia:France|Frenchman]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:California state flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:California|California]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Illinois.png|24px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Illinois|Illinois]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag of Washington, D.C..png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Washington, D.C.|Washington, D.C.]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Maryland flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Maryland|Maryland]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Rhode Island.jpg|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Rhode Island|Rhode Island]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Texas flag.gif|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Texas|Texas]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Pennsylvania flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Pennsylvania|Pennsylvania]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:State Flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Michigan|Michigan]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag of Washington.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Washington|Washington]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag_of_Wisconsin.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Wisconsin|Wisconsin]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Alabama Flag.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Alabama|Alabama]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag_of_Kentucky.jpg|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Kentucky|Kentucky]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:FCUSAMaybe.PNG|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Free Country, USA|Free Country, USA]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=navy | mainbkgd=lightsteelblue | codebkgd=lightgray | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Flag of Jerusalem.png|47px]] | msg=This user lives in '''[[Wikipedia:Jerusalem|Jerusalem]]'''.}}

</userboxsamples>

===Email Userboxes===
<userboxsamples>

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite email is '''[[insert title]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Tandy 400 Emails|Tandy-era]]''' emails the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]] | msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:sbemail lappy2.png|43px]] | msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Lappy 486 Emails|Lappy-era]]''' emails the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:Compé.png|43px]] | msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compé Emails|Compé-era]]''' emails the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:ipod homestar.gif|43px]] | msg=This user watches '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on his/her iPod]].}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Homestar psp.png|43px]] | msg=This user watches '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on his/her PSP]].}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Homestar_dsi.png|43px]] | msg=This user watches '''[[Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on his/her DSi]].}}

</userboxsamples>

===Character Userboxes===
<userboxsamples>

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 1 - homestar.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homestar Runner]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Bad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:The Cheat Character Video.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[The Cheat]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 3 - strong sad.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Sad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 8 - strong mad.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Strong Mad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:pompom.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Pom Pom]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 6 - marzipan.PNG|35px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Marzipan]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Coach Z]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 4 - bubs.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Bubs]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 7 - the kot.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[The King of Town]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:poopsmith.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[The Poopsmith]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:pquesttrailer.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Trogdor]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 16 - stinkoman.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Stinkoman]]'''.}}

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{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 11 - senor cardgage.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Senor Cardgage]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Marshie43x43.png|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Marshie]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:sterrance.png|50px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Sterrance]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Da Huuuuuudge closeup.png|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Da Huuuuuudge]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Frank Bennedetto.PNG|30px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Frank Bennedetto]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:nebulon.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Nebulon]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:knight_idaho.PNG|26px]] | msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[The Knight]]'''.}}

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===Game Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#FF0000 | mainbkgd=#8B0000 | codebkgd=#DC143C | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:stinkoman20X6normal.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user loves to play '''[[Stinkoman 20X6|Stinkoman 20X6]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#D19275 | mainbkgd=#FFE4C4 | codebkgd=#CD853F | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=PQ | msg=This user loves to play '''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000080 | mainbkgd=#99AAFF | codebkgd=#191970 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:handheldgames postshooter.png|43px]] | msg=This user likes the '''[[Handheld Games Menu|Old Games]]''' the best.}}

{{userbox | border=#FFA500 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:d3win.png|43px]] | msg=This user hath beaten '''[[Thy Dungeonman 3]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=gold | mainbkgd=yellow | codebkgd=red | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:kidspeedy.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is faster than '''[[Kid Speedy]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#333333 | mainbkgd=#cccccc | codebkgd=#333333 | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Viidelectrix Menu 1-29-2007.png|43px]] | msg=This user plays '''[[Viidelectrix]] games'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=#00EE00 | codebkgd=black | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Duck Guardian icon.png|43px]] | msg=This user has '''[[Duck Guardian One|guarded 285 ducks]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=gold | codebkgd=black | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Guitar Hero II Trogdor Bonus.JPG|50px]] | msg=This user has rocked out to '''[[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]]''' on '''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero 2|Guitar Hero 2]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=gold | codebkgd=black | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Limozeen photo.PNG|50px]] | msg=This user has rocked out to '''[[Because, It's Midnite]]''' on '''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s|Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=#B80 | codebkgd=white | codecolor=#FFF | code=[[Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Egg.png|35px]] | msg=<big>Этот пользователь '''[[Where's an Egg?|нашел яйцо]]'''.</big>}}

{{userbox | border=#333333 | mainbkgd=#333333 | codebkgd=#000000 | code=[[Image:poptiregame.PNG|43px]] | msg= This user '''[[Population: Tire|is soldier.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=#cccccc | codebkgd=black | code=[[Image:Comic Generator Title.png|45px]] | msg= This user likes to '''[[Make-O Your Own Stinko|Make-O His/Her Own Stink-O]](Man)!'''}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:Sbcg4ap.PNG|45px]] | msg= This user plays '''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People|SBCG4AP]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[File:PBTC Wii.png|45px]] | msg= This user plays '''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People|SBCG4AP]]''' on the Wii.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[File:Total Wad Lappy.png|45px]] | msg= This user plays '''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People|SBCG4AP]]''' on a PC.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:HomestarRuinerIcon.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[Homestar Ruiner]].}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:StrongBadiaTheFreeIcon.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[Strong Badia the Free]] ''(counting/not counting Uber-Pope)''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:BaddestOfTheBandsIcon.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[Baddest of the Bands]].}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:Sbcg4ap104 235x225.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective]].}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=white | code=[[Image:Sbcg4ap105 235x225.png|45px]] | msg= This user got '''Maximum Awesomeness''' in [[8-Bit Is Enough]].}}
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===Chapman Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF3030 | codebkgd=#99AAFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Matt closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Matt Chapman|Matt]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#99AAFF | codebkgd=#FF3030 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Mike closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#EEE0E5 | codebkgd=#FF0066 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Missy closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Missy Palmer|Missy]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF0066 | codebkgd=#EEE0E5 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Jackie closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Jackie Chapman|Jackie]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CD00CD | codebkgd=#7F00FF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:donniechapman.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Donnie Chapman|Donnie]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF7F24 | codebkgd=#AA5303 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Don closeup.png|40px]] | msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don]]'''.}}

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===Spinoff Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#ADD8E6 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#E0FFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FF8C00 | mainbkgd=#FED8AA | codebkgd=#FF8C00 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Marzipans Answering Machine.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#FF1493 | mainbkgd=#00FFFF | codebkgd=#AFEEEE | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:scc.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FFFF00 | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:firebert cartoon.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Cheat Commandos]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:20X6.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[20X6]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#A9A9A9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:parsnips.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Old-Timey]] Toons'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#6699CC | codebkgd=#006699 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:PuppetTime.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Puppet Stuff]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#00FF00 | border=#00FF00 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:PBTC.png|43px]] | msg=This user loves '''[[Powered by The Cheat|Powered by The Cheat]] Toons'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#00FF00 | border=#00FF00 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 36 - lazorlarry.png|32px]] | msg=This user's favorite Limozeen bandmate is '''[[Larry Palaroncini|Larry]]'''.}}

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===Toon Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#E0FFFF | codebkgd=#20B2AA | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:toons screenshot.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's favorite toon is '''[[insert title]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#E0FFFF | codebkgd=#20B2AA | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:toons screenshot.PNG|43px]] | msg=The first toon this user ever saw was '''[[insert title]]'''.}}

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===Fun Userboxes===
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{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FFFF00 | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#000000 | code=MEH | msg=This user can understand '''[[Cheat Talk]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#0000FF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=LP | msg=This user wears '''[[long pants]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#0000FF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=SH | msg=This user wears '''[[Toons#Shorts|shorts]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#F9CD02 | codebkgd=#1555A5 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:wheelchair.png|40px]] | msg=This user will get '''[[Crazy Cartoon|Eh Steve!]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#00008B | mainbkgd=mediumspringgreen | codebkgd=green| codecolor=green | code=[[Image:Swe_atshirtfloat.PNG|55px]] | msg=This user likes to wear '''[[Fall Float Parade|swee-atshirts]]'''.}}
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{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#3333CD | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:homsar shirt logo back.PNG|40px]] | msg=This user was '''[[interview|raised by a cup of coffee]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#133C6E | mainbkgd=#F9CD02 | codebkgd=#1555A5 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]] | msg='''Homsar's words of wisdom:''' ''{{homsarquote}}''}}

{{userbox | border=#133C6E | mainbkgd=#F9CD02 | codebkgd=#1555A5 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Whalehead.PNG‎|43px]] | msg='''The Drive-Thru Whale's words of wisdom:''' ''{{whalequote}}''}}

{{userbox | border=#133C6E | mainbkgd=#F9CD02 | codebkgd=#1555A5 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:qod_11_-_senor_cardgage.PNG|43px]] | msg='''Senor Cardgage's words of wisdom:''' ''{{cardgagequote}}''}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF6EC7 | codebkgd=#7EC0EE | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Hillary.png|40px]] | msg=This user is being '''[[kids' book|fangoriously devoured by a gelatinous monster]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#7EC0EE | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:lilbrudder.gif|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Li'l Brudder|can make it on his/her own]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=black | codebkgd=orange | codecolor=orange | code=[[Image:ss spooktacular.png|45px]] | msg=This user enjoys watching '''[[theme park|The Strong Sad Gets Decked Repeatedly Stunt Spooktacular!]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=teal | mainbkgd=mediumspringgreen | codebkgd=darkslategray | codecolor=steelblue | code=[[Image:Isp.PNG|53px]] | msg=This user is prepared to send you his/her weight in '''[[isp|free sign up CDs]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00FF7F | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|43px]] | msg=This user is playing '''[[highschool|better video games]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#ED9121 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 11 - senor cardgage.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user can help you '''[[Senor Mortgage|get a leg up on the pile]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#009966 | codecolor=#66FFCC | code=LOL | msg=This user is '''[[funny]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#7EC0EE | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Faint of butt.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user's got an '''[[Strong Bad Sings|ugly butt]]''', and a stupid... butt.}}

{{userbox | border=#9966FF | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#E0FFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:sbemail36.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user can play the '''[[guitar]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC11 | codebkgd=#6A5ACD | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Ilko.png|43px]] | msg=This user plays '''[[cheatday|mining games]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00FF00 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user has '''[[Who Said What Now?|more than two prablems]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Fallen Ben.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is a member of the '''[[Homestarmy]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:municipality.png|50px]] | msg=This user is a member of '''[[The Municipality]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 13 - so and so.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Teen Girl Squad|SO GOOD]]'''!}}

{{userbox | border=#ADD8E6 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#E0FFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:DndGreg.PNG|32px]] | msg=This user doesn't like his/her '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|style bitten]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=black | mainbkgd=yellow | codebkgd=blue | codecolor=blue | code=[[Image:sbe164.png|45px]] | msg=This user thinks the '''[[looking old|nightly nacho cheese masks are not working]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#B22222 | codebkgd=#FEF1B5 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:TC cartoony.png|43px]] | msg=This user [[pop-up|'''has stolen all of Senor Muybueno's gold''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#9900CC | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:level5intro.png|43px]] | msg=This user is on the '''[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 5|mooooooon!]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFE600 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Superbrave kid 2.png|37px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Super Brave!!]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#990033 | mainbkgd=#CC9966 | codebkgd=#009966 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:DancingBros.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[A Folky Tale|gonna have a good time tonight]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:StrongBad CarmenSanDiego.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user doesn't know '''[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats|what's fun about eating less candy.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#32CD32 | codebkgd=#7CFC00 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Coach Z With Food Sign.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[These peoples try to fade me|could use a dollar, he/she could use a couple bucks]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCC33 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#663333 | code=[[Image:UserboxLeftHanded.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user is <s>squirrel</s> '''[[Left Handedness|left-handed]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#0000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:43SMposse.png|43px]] | msg=This user is a member of '''[[HR:smsticker.html|Strong Mad's Posse.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FFFF00 | codebkgd=#FFD700 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:firebert army.png|45px]] | msg=This user also thinks '''[[Firebert]]''' is not a good '''[[Cheat Commandos|Commando]]''' name.}}

{{userbox | border=#1D95CF | mainbkgd=#AED9EE | codebkgd=#666 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Strong Bad's Rhythm N' Grammar.png|45px]] | msg=If you want it to be possessive, it's just '''I-T-S''', but if it's suppposed to be a contraction then it's '''I-T-apostrophe-S'''. '''[[local news|Scalawag]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#333366 | mainbkgd=#9999CC | codebkgd=#666699 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Better-1-Up.png|34px]] | msg=This user wants to '''[[japanese cartoon|be the guy too]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00CC99 | codebkgd=#009966 | codecolor=#66FFCC | code=ga-ga | msg=This user is enrolled at '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Diaper School]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#66FFCC | code=[[Image:sbemail106.PNG|34px]] | msg=Looks like this user's [[dangeresque 3|'''gonna have to jump''']]!}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#FFCE7B | codebkgd=#FFA500 | codecolor=#66FFCC | code=[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user has '''[[The Best Decemberween Ever|all types of crazy crap]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#00BFFF | mainbkgd=#FFD700 | codebkgd=#00BFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:Adorable The Cheat.png|43px]] | msg=This user is [[lady...ing|'''holy-crap-adorable''']]!}}

{{userbox | border=#00BFBF | mainbkgd=#FFD899 | codebkgd=#00BFBF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:All Original Bubs.PNG|43px]] | msg=If this user had thumbs, he'd/she'd be '''[[original|sticking them up his/her armpits right now]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:jailcartoon01.png|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon|making out with Sweet Lady Freedom.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#0000FF | mainbkgd=#787878 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:Tag team wrestling.png|43px]] | msg=This user plays '''[[Nintendo]]''' with '''[[Moses Malone]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=gold | mainbkgd=yellow | codebkgd=blue | codecolor=black | code=[[Image:Keep cool 2.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user keeps cool with '''[[keep cool|Monkey D's Summer Tips]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:qod 10 - marshie.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Meet Marshie|hates that fweakin' marshmallow.]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#368634 | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|54px]] | msg=This user is [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|'''Hazardous to your Health''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#00468C | codebkgd=#009F00 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:Drivethru.png|43px]] | msg=This user is not willing to '''[[Drive-Thru|sever his/her leg]]''', but he/she would like to try a combo meal.}}

{{userbox | border=blue | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=purple | codecolor=white | code=[[Image:Sbrocket.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user has caught a [[Europa-pean Lobster]] with a '''[[Strong Bad's Rocket|water rocket]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#C9C9C9 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#00FF00 | code=[[Image:cellphone.png|43px]] | msg=This user just [[technology|wrote, directed, produced, and distributed a movie with his/her cell phone]]!}}

{{userbox | border=purple | mainbkgd=red | codebkgd=#B22222 | codecolor=#99CCFF | code=[[Image:sbemail opera.png|50px]] | msg=This user is '''[[rock opera|awesome singing backwards metal]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=#FFFFFF | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:qod 14 - whats her face.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12|likes cloth]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#133C6E | mainbkgd=#F9CD02 | codebkgd=#1555A5 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Drums.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user can '''[[do over|play the drum!]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=blue | mainbkgd=yellow | codebkgd=green | codecolor=white | code=[[Image:Aunt gert doll.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user will give ya two thin dimes for this '''[[Aunt Gert|pantyhose doll]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=blue | mainbkgd=#CCCCCC | codebkgd=red | codecolor=white | code=[[Image:Less than b.JPG|43px]] | msg=This user is '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12|less than B]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#000000 | mainbkgd#FF9900 | codebkgd=#006600 | codecolor=#000000 | code=[[Image:On Point Kings brochure.png|45px]] | msg=This user is a member of the '''[[On Point Kings]]'''}}

{{userbox | border=#00FF00 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Broken Paper.png|53px]] | msg=This user mourns the loss of the old '''[[The Paper|paper]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#DAA520 | mainbkgd=#FFFFFF | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:Pistols For Pandas T-shirt close.PNG|43px]] | msg=This user supports [[Pistols For Pandas (organization)|'''Pistols for Pandas''']].}}

{{userbox | border=#00FF00 | border=#00FF00 | mainbkgd=#000000 | codebkgd=#000000 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:pencil moistener.png‎ |43px]] | msg=This user was affected by the '''[[Old Comics|Dry Pencil Scare of '47]]'''.}}

{{userbox | border=#008000 | mainbkgd=#7CFC00 | codebkgd=#32CD32 | codecolor=#FFFFFF | code=[[Image:unnatural tea party.png|43px]] | msg=This user has tampered with the '''[[DNA evidence]]'''.}}

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Crystal Fortress

AbdiViklas — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:39:24 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Real-World References */ "spoof" isn't quite applicable here. And really? Ringo? Doesn't it just sound like whatever TMBG member that is singing?

{{toonnav|Powered by The Cheat|crystal|Trudgemank|The Cheat Theme Song}}
[[Image:crystal fortress.png‎ |thumb|right|220px|"Unicorns?! Who-who are you?"]]

In this partially-[[Powered by The Cheat]] music video, Davey attempts to call Strong Bad from his crystal fortress - but the Rambling Wreck of E-Mail Check has got some countermeasures!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Davey]], Other Guy/Guitarist, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, Unicorn, Haddi-Man kids

'''Date:''' Monday, September 28, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:09

'''Page Title:''' Davey Gets His Due!

==Transcript==
'''DAVEY:''' Mmm. French fries. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Mmm. Yeah, they're good. Gee, Davey, Strong Bad always seems so hostile. I bet he doesn't even know how much everybody loves him. 
'''DAVEY:''' Nope, nope. I don't think so either. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Nope. 
'''DAVEY:''' I've written a song I think'll make Strong Bad understand. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Oh? 
'''DAVEY:''' I'm gonna sing it. 

'''DAVEY:''' Uhh Huh 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I already don't like the sound of this one. Ohh, vomit-inducing! My favorite! 
'''DAVEY:''' ''{singing throughout}'' Come down from your crystal fortress, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? 
'''DAVEY:''' A unicorn awaits at a rainbow bridge, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Unicorns?!'' Wh-who are you? 
'''DAVEY:''' Her head is bowed and a tiny tear traces these words in the dew. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, you whiny weasels. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{singing back up vocals throughout}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Shut up. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{screamed}'' Throw me a squeedley guitar! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Let me tell ya, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get French fries, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get no French fries, 
'''OTHER SINGER:''' ''{simultaneously, heavy metal style screaming}'' You don't get french friiies. You get french friiiiies! They Might be Giiiants, gets no french friiies! Yeeah-ah yeah-ah yeah ah! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get the French fries, and you get the French fries, but '''''you''''' don't get French fries! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh! 

'''DAVEY:''' Unchain your trembling hopes and dreams, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Awwwwwwww!'' I thought you were done. 
'''DAVEY:''' The love you deny is the key that will melt the lock, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll melt your face! 
'''DAVEY:''' Our golden shining spirits, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Eww! 
'''DAVEY:''' will all join hands and sing. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' No. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not coming down from no place. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad. 
'''THIRD SINGER:''' Strong Bad. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up... you stupid hippie. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I'm-a gonna throw a brick at your cellist. 

''{A crash is heard, with the sound of a piano being broken}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*This song comes from [[They Might Be Giants]] [[TMBW:Podcast 37A|Podcast 37A]], which was released eleven months before this toon. During the podcast, John Flansburgh mentions that the song is "hopefully going to be made into something with Homestar."

===Remarks===
*Although Strong Bad says he's "gonna throw a brick at [their] cellist", the instrument that is heard afterward is a piano.
*[[Matt Chapman]] refers to the singer in the [[FeedBurner Page#Powered by The Cheat - Crystal_Fortress|RSS entry for this toon]] as "Stave".

===Goofs===
*The girl is the only one of the Haddi-Man kids that does not have a shadow.
*During the scene where the unicorn is heading towards the key, the background runs out and shows white at the very last frame. This is most noticeable in the flash file.

===Inside References===
*[[French fries]] are commonly seen and mentioned throughout the music video.
*Inside Davey's mouth there are French fries [[Food Still In Peel or Package|still in the box]].
*At the end of the email [[virus]] Strong Bad says that he doesn't even remembers Davey's name.
*[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?|The guitarist]] first appeared in [[for kids]], as did the three children.
**Also, "Haddi-man", who was listed as one of the directors, was [[Homsar]]'s public television name in the same email.
*Strong Bad mentions [[Puke|vomit inducing]].
*Strong Bad's comments throughout the song are reminiscent of those in [[Sensitive to Bees]]. In both songs, he responds to the first sung line with "What?".
*Strong Bad says he'll melt the guitarist's face; in [[coloring]] he attempted to "melt" Limozeen's faces with his crayons. Also, in the DVD commentary for [[the_bet#Commentary_Transcript|the bet]], Strong Bad connects "guitar-shredding" with face-melting.
*When Strong Bad is seen on the mountaintop, he is depicted as being [[Exaggerated Strong Bad|really muscular]].
*The pixellated lightning bolts at the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment are directly imported from the [[Peasant's Quest]] title screen.
*Strong Bad stylized as a "haddiman" kid has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts|ears]].
*Strong Bad threatens to throw a brick, something he also did in [[Sketchbook (video)]] and [[the process]].
*At the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment, the picture shown in the background is the [http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Unicorn-in-Paradise-Posters_i1314254_.htm "Unicorn In Paradise"] poster (sans unicorn), which was also seen in [[Strong Bad Main Page|his bedroom]].
*This toon has another reference to [[Rainbows]].
*This toon prominently features [[Unicorns]].

===Real-World References===
*Davey's costume before Strong Bad appears on the mountaintop is based on that of [[Wikipedia:Brynhildr#Wagner's "Ring" cycle|Brunnhilde]] from [[Wikipedia:Richard Wagner|Wagner's]] [[Wikipedia:Der Ring des Nibelungen| "Ring" cycle]]. It is considered an iconic and stereotypical operatic costume.
*The scene with Strong Bad on the mountaintop is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Night on Bald Mountain|"Night On Bald Mountain"]] sequence of the [[Disney]] movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Fantasia (film)|Fantasia]]'', with Strong Bad as Chernabog.
**It may also be a reference to the introduction of [[Wikipedia:Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire|Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire]], since the "Sierra Presents" logo also has a purple genie appearing from behind a mountain.
*The line "You get French fries, and you get French fries, but you don't get French fries" may be a reference to the They Might Be Giants song, "Even Numbers" which contains the line, "you like French fries, but you don't like French fries".

==See Also==
*The [[Crystal Fortress Visuals|visuals]] for this video
*[[Crystal Fortress (song)]]

==External Links==
{{extlinks|crystal|15804}}
*[http://www.tmbg.com/_media/_pod/TMBGPodcast37A.mp3 download podcast MP3]
*[[TMBW:Crystal Fortress|see the This Might Be a Wiki article for "Crystal Fortress"]]

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Songs]]

Crystal Fortress

AbdiViklas — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:37:34 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Inside References */ reword and add

{{toonnav|Powered by The Cheat|crystal|Trudgemank|The Cheat Theme Song}}
[[Image:crystal fortress.png‎ |thumb|right|220px|"Unicorns?! Who-who are you?"]]

In this partially-[[Powered by The Cheat]] music video, Davey attempts to call Strong Bad from his crystal fortress - but the Rambling Wreck of E-Mail Check has got some countermeasures!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Davey]], Other Guy/Guitarist, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, Unicorn, Haddi-Man kids

'''Date:''' Monday, September 28, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:09

'''Page Title:''' Davey Gets His Due!

==Transcript==
'''DAVEY:''' Mmm. French fries. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Mmm. Yeah, they're good. Gee, Davey, Strong Bad always seems so hostile. I bet he doesn't even know how much everybody loves him. 
'''DAVEY:''' Nope, nope. I don't think so either. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Nope. 
'''DAVEY:''' I've written a song I think'll make Strong Bad understand. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Oh? 
'''DAVEY:''' I'm gonna sing it. 

'''DAVEY:''' Uhh Huh 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I already don't like the sound of this one. Ohh, vomit-inducing! My favorite! 
'''DAVEY:''' ''{singing throughout}'' Come down from your crystal fortress, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? 
'''DAVEY:''' A unicorn awaits at a rainbow bridge, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Unicorns?!'' Wh-who are you? 
'''DAVEY:''' Her head is bowed and a tiny tear traces these words in the dew. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, you whiny weasels. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{singing back up vocals throughout}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Shut up. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{screamed}'' Throw me a squeedley guitar! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Let me tell ya, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get French fries, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get no French fries, 
'''OTHER SINGER:''' ''{simultaneously, heavy metal style screaming}'' You don't get french friiies. You get french friiiiies! They Might be Giiiants, gets no french friiies! Yeeah-ah yeah-ah yeah ah! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get the French fries, and you get the French fries, but '''''you''''' don't get French fries! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh! 

'''DAVEY:''' Unchain your trembling hopes and dreams, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Awwwwwwww!'' I thought you were done. 
'''DAVEY:''' The love you deny is the key that will melt the lock, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll melt your face! 
'''DAVEY:''' Our golden shining spirits, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Eww! 
'''DAVEY:''' will all join hands and sing. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' No. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not coming down from no place. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad. 
'''THIRD SINGER:''' Strong Bad. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up... you stupid hippie. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I'm-a gonna throw a brick at your cellist. 

''{A crash is heard, with the sound of a piano being broken}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*This song comes from [[They Might Be Giants]] [[TMBW:Podcast 37A|Podcast 37A]], which was released eleven months before this toon. During the podcast, John Flansburgh mentions that the song is "hopefully going to be made into something with Homestar."

===Remarks===
*Although Strong Bad says he's "gonna throw a brick at [their] cellist", the instrument that is heard afterward is a piano.
*[[Matt Chapman]] refers to the singer in the [[FeedBurner Page#Powered by The Cheat - Crystal_Fortress|RSS entry for this toon]] as "Stave".

===Goofs===
*The girl is the only one of the Haddi-Man kids that does not have a shadow.
*During the scene where the unicorn is heading towards the key, the background runs out and shows white at the very last frame. This is most noticeable in the flash file.

===Inside References===
*[[French fries]] are commonly seen and mentioned throughout the music video.
*Inside Davey's mouth there are French fries [[Food Still In Peel or Package|still in the box]].
*At the end of the email [[virus]] Strong Bad says that he doesn't even remembers Davey's name.
*[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?|The guitarist]] first appeared in [[for kids]], as did the three children.
**Also, "Haddi-man", who was listed as one of the directors, was [[Homsar]]'s public television name in the same email.
*Strong Bad mentions [[Puke|vomit inducing]].
*Strong Bad's comments throughout the song are reminiscent of those in [[Sensitive to Bees]]. In both songs, he responds to the first sung line with "What?".
*Strong Bad says he'll melt the guitarist's face; in [[coloring]] he attempted to "melt" Limozeen's faces with his crayons. Also, in the DVD commentary for [[the_bet#Commentary_Transcript|the bet]], Strong Bad connects "guitar-shredding" with face-melting.
*When Strong Bad is seen on the mountaintop, he is depicted as being [[Exaggerated Strong Bad|really muscular]].
*The pixellated lightning bolts at the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment are directly imported from the [[Peasant's Quest]] title screen.
*Strong Bad stylized as a "haddiman" kid has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts|ears]].
*Strong Bad threatens to throw a brick, something he also did in [[Sketchbook (video)]] and [[the process]].
*At the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment, the picture shown in the background is the [http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Unicorn-in-Paradise-Posters_i1314254_.htm "Unicorn In Paradise"] poster (sans unicorn), which was also seen in [[Strong Bad Main Page|his bedroom]].
*This toon has another reference to [[Rainbows]].
*This toon prominently features [[Unicorns]].

===Real-World References===
*Davey's costume before Strong Bad appears on the mountaintop is based on that of [[Wikipedia:Brynhildr#Wagner's "Ring" cycle|Brunnhilde]] from [[Wikipedia:Richard Wagner|Wagner's]] [[Wikipedia:Der Ring des Nibelungen| "Ring" cycle]]. It is considered an iconic and stereotypical operatic costume.
*The scene with Strong Bad on the mountaintop spoofs the [[Wikipedia:Night on Bald Mountain|"Night On Bald Mountain"]] sequence of the [[Disney]] movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Fantasia (film)|Fantasia]]'', with Strong Bad as Chernabog.
**It may also be a reference to the introduction of [[Wikipedia:Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire|Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire]], since the "Sierra Presents" logo also has a purple genie appearing out from behind a mountain.
*The line "You get French fries, and you get French fries, but you don't get French fries" may be a reference to the They Might Be Giants song, "Even Numbers" which contains the line, "you like French fries, but you don't like French fries".
*Davey's voice when he sings the song resembles [[Wikipedia:Ringo Starr | Ringo Starr's]].

==See Also==
*The [[Crystal Fortress Visuals|visuals]] for this video
*[[Crystal Fortress (song)]]

==External Links==
{{extlinks|crystal|15804}}
*[http://www.tmbg.com/_media/_pod/TMBGPodcast37A.mp3 download podcast MP3]
*[[TMBW:Crystal Fortress|see the This Might Be a Wiki article for "Crystal Fortress"]]

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Songs]]

Crystal Fortress

AbdiViklas — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:18:39 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Remarks */ being picky--it's just a big cluster-chord. If a piano really broke it *wouldn't* make a musical sound, as the strings would go slack.

{{toonnav|Powered by The Cheat|crystal|Trudgemank|The Cheat Theme Song}}
[[Image:crystal fortress.png‎ |thumb|right|220px|"Unicorns?! Who-who are you?"]]

In this partially-[[Powered by The Cheat]] music video, Davey attempts to call Strong Bad from his crystal fortress - but the Rambling Wreck of E-Mail Check has got some countermeasures!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Davey]], Other Guy/Guitarist, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, Unicorn, Haddi-Man kids

'''Date:''' Monday, September 28, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:09

'''Page Title:''' Davey Gets His Due!

==Transcript==
'''DAVEY:''' Mmm. French fries. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Mmm. Yeah, they're good. Gee, Davey, Strong Bad always seems so hostile. I bet he doesn't even know how much everybody loves him. 
'''DAVEY:''' Nope, nope. I don't think so either. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Nope. 
'''DAVEY:''' I've written a song I think'll make Strong Bad understand. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Oh? 
'''DAVEY:''' I'm gonna sing it. 

'''DAVEY:''' Uhh Huh 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I already don't like the sound of this one. Ohh, vomit-inducing! My favorite! 
'''DAVEY:''' ''{singing throughout}'' Come down from your crystal fortress, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? 
'''DAVEY:''' A unicorn awaits at a rainbow bridge, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Unicorns?!'' Wh-who are you? 
'''DAVEY:''' Her head is bowed and a tiny tear traces these words in the dew. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, you whiny weasels. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{singing back up vocals throughout}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Shut up. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{screamed}'' Throw me a squeedley guitar! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Let me tell ya, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get French fries, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get no French fries, 
'''OTHER SINGER:''' ''{simultaneously, heavy metal style screaming}'' You don't get french friiies. You get french friiiiies! They Might be Giiiants, gets no french friiies! Yeeah-ah yeah-ah yeah ah! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get the French fries, and you get the French fries, but '''''you''''' don't get French fries! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh! 

'''DAVEY:''' Unchain your trembling hopes and dreams, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Awwwwwwww!'' I thought you were done. 
'''DAVEY:''' The love you deny is the key that will melt the lock, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll melt your face! 
'''DAVEY:''' Our golden shining spirits, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Eww! 
'''DAVEY:''' will all join hands and sing. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' No. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not coming down from no place. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad. 
'''THIRD SINGER:''' Strong Bad. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up... you stupid hippie. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I'm-a gonna throw a brick at your cellist. 

''{A crash is heard, with the sound of a piano being broken}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*This song comes from [[They Might Be Giants]] [[TMBW:Podcast 37A|Podcast 37A]], which was released eleven months before this toon. During the podcast, John Flansburgh mentions that the song is "hopefully going to be made into something with Homestar."

===Remarks===
*Although Strong Bad says he's "gonna throw a brick at [their] cellist", the instrument that is heard afterward is a piano.
*[[Matt Chapman]] refers to the singer in the [[FeedBurner Page#Powered by The Cheat - Crystal_Fortress|RSS entry for this toon]] as "Stave".

===Goofs===
*The girl is the only one of the Haddi-Man kids that does not have a shadow.
*During the scene where the unicorn is heading towards the key, the background runs out and shows white at the very last frame. This is most noticeable in the flash file.

===Inside References===
*[[French fries]] are commonly seen and mentioned throughout the music video.
*Inside Davey's mouth there are French fries [[Food Still In Peel or Package|still in the box]].
*At the end of the email [[virus]] Strong Bad says that he doesn't even remembers Davey's name.
*[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?|The guitarist]] first appeared in [[for kids]], as did the three children.
**Also, "Haddi-man", who was listed as one of the directors, was [[Homsar]]'s public television name in the same email.
*Strong Bad mentions [[Puke|vomit inducing]].
*Strong Bad's comments throughout the song are reminiscent of those in [[Sensitive to Bees]]. In both songs, he responds to the first sung line with "What?".
*Strong Bad says he'll melt the guitarist's face off, something he attempted to do in [[coloring]] to Limozeen with his crayons.
*When Strong Bad is seen on the mountaintop, he is depicted as being [[Exaggerated Strong Bad|really muscular]].
*The pixellated lightning bolts at the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment are directly imported from the [[Peasant's Quest]] title screen.
*Strong Bad stylized as a "haddiman" kid has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts|ears]].
*Strong Bad threatens to throw a brick, something he also did in [[Sketchbook (video)]] and [[the process]].
*At the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment, the picture shown in the background is the [http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Unicorn-in-Paradise-Posters_i1314254_.htm "Unicorn In Paradise"] poster (sans unicorn), which was also seen in [[Strong Bad Main Page|his bedroom]].
*This toon has another reference to [[Rainbows]].
*This toon prominently features [[Unicorns]].

===Real-World References===
*Davey's costume before Strong Bad appears on the mountaintop is based on that of [[Wikipedia:Brynhildr#Wagner's "Ring" cycle|Brunnhilde]] from [[Wikipedia:Richard Wagner|Wagner's]] [[Wikipedia:Der Ring des Nibelungen| "Ring" cycle]]. It is considered an iconic and stereotypical operatic costume.
*The scene with Strong Bad on the mountaintop spoofs the [[Wikipedia:Night on Bald Mountain|"Night On Bald Mountain"]] sequence of the [[Disney]] movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Fantasia (film)|Fantasia]]'', with Strong Bad as Chernabog.
**It may also be a reference to the introduction of [[Wikipedia:Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire|Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire]], since the "Sierra Presents" logo also has a purple genie appearing out from behind a mountain.
*The line "You get French fries, and you get French fries, but you don't get French fries" may be a reference to the They Might Be Giants song, "Even Numbers" which contains the line, "you like French fries, but you don't like French fries".
*Davey's voice when he sings the song resembles [[Wikipedia:Ringo Starr | Ringo Starr's]].

==See Also==
*The [[Crystal Fortress Visuals|visuals]] for this video
*[[Crystal Fortress (song)]]

==External Links==
{{extlinks|crystal|15804}}
*[http://www.tmbg.com/_media/_pod/TMBGPodcast37A.mp3 download podcast MP3]
*[[TMBW:Crystal Fortress|see the This Might Be a Wiki article for "Crystal Fortress"]]

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Songs]]

Crystal Fortress

AbdiViklas — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:17:27 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Explanations */ I'm-a go ahead and assume some of these are fair game for cleanup. First: What about the Fortress of Solitude? I think there's more connection there than to ivory tower.

{{toonnav|Powered by The Cheat|crystal|Trudgemank|The Cheat Theme Song}}
[[Image:crystal fortress.png‎ |thumb|right|220px|"Unicorns?! Who-who are you?"]]

In this partially-[[Powered by The Cheat]] music video, Davey attempts to call Strong Bad from his crystal fortress - but the Rambling Wreck of E-Mail Check has got some countermeasures!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Davey]], Other Guy/Guitarist, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, Unicorn, Haddi-Man kids

'''Date:''' Monday, September 28, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:09

'''Page Title:''' Davey Gets His Due!

==Transcript==
'''DAVEY:''' Mmm. French fries. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Mmm. Yeah, they're good. Gee, Davey, Strong Bad always seems so hostile. I bet he doesn't even know how much everybody loves him. 
'''DAVEY:''' Nope, nope. I don't think so either. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Nope. 
'''DAVEY:''' I've written a song I think'll make Strong Bad understand. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Oh? 
'''DAVEY:''' I'm gonna sing it. 

'''DAVEY:''' Uhh Huh 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I already don't like the sound of this one. Ohh, vomit-inducing! My favorite! 
'''DAVEY:''' ''{singing throughout}'' Come down from your crystal fortress, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? 
'''DAVEY:''' A unicorn awaits at a rainbow bridge, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Unicorns?!'' Wh-who are you? 
'''DAVEY:''' Her head is bowed and a tiny tear traces these words in the dew. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, you whiny weasels. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{singing back up vocals throughout}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Shut up. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Strong Bad 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{screamed}'' Throw me a squeedley guitar! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Let me tell ya, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get French fries, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right! You get French fries, and you get French fries, but ''you'' don't get no French fries, 
'''OTHER SINGER:''' ''{simultaneously, heavy metal style screaming}'' You don't get french friiies. You get french friiiiies! They Might be Giiiants, gets no french friiies! Yeeah-ah yeah-ah yeah ah! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You get the French fries, and you get the French fries, but '''''you''''' don't get French fries! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh! 

'''DAVEY:''' Unchain your trembling hopes and dreams, oh Strong Bad, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Awwwwwwww!'' I thought you were done. 
'''DAVEY:''' The love you deny is the key that will melt the lock, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll melt your face! 
'''DAVEY:''' Our golden shining spirits, 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Eww! 
'''DAVEY:''' will all join hands and sing. 

'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' No. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not coming down from no place. 
'''DAVEY:''' Please come down from your crystal fortress. 
'''OTHER GUY:''' Strong Bad. 
'''THIRD SINGER:''' Strong Bad. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up... you stupid hippie. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{spoken}'' I'm-a gonna throw a brick at your cellist. 

''{A crash is heard, with the sound of a piano being broken}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*This song comes from [[They Might Be Giants]] [[TMBW:Podcast 37A|Podcast 37A]], which was released eleven months before this toon. During the podcast, John Flansburgh mentions that the song is "hopefully going to be made into something with Homestar."

===Remarks===
*Although Strong Bad says he's "gonna throw a brick at [their] cellist", the instrument that is heard breaking is a piano.
*[[Matt Chapman]] refers to the singer in the [[FeedBurner Page#Powered by The Cheat - Crystal_Fortress|RSS entry for this toon]] as "Stave".

===Goofs===
*The girl is the only one of the Haddi-Man kids that does not have a shadow.
*During the scene where the unicorn is heading towards the key, the background runs out and shows white at the very last frame. This is most noticeable in the flash file.

===Inside References===
*[[French fries]] are commonly seen and mentioned throughout the music video.
*Inside Davey's mouth there are French fries [[Food Still In Peel or Package|still in the box]].
*At the end of the email [[virus]] Strong Bad says that he doesn't even remembers Davey's name.
*[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?|The guitarist]] first appeared in [[for kids]], as did the three children.
**Also, "Haddi-man", who was listed as one of the directors, was [[Homsar]]'s public television name in the same email.
*Strong Bad mentions [[Puke|vomit inducing]].
*Strong Bad's comments throughout the song are reminiscent of those in [[Sensitive to Bees]]. In both songs, he responds to the first sung line with "What?".
*Strong Bad says he'll melt the guitarist's face off, something he attempted to do in [[coloring]] to Limozeen with his crayons.
*When Strong Bad is seen on the mountaintop, he is depicted as being [[Exaggerated Strong Bad|really muscular]].
*The pixellated lightning bolts at the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment are directly imported from the [[Peasant's Quest]] title screen.
*Strong Bad stylized as a "haddiman" kid has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts|ears]].
*Strong Bad threatens to throw a brick, something he also did in [[Sketchbook (video)]] and [[the process]].
*At the beginning of Strong Bad's metal segment, the picture shown in the background is the [http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Unicorn-in-Paradise-Posters_i1314254_.htm "Unicorn In Paradise"] poster (sans unicorn), which was also seen in [[Strong Bad Main Page|his bedroom]].
*This toon has another reference to [[Rainbows]].
*This toon prominently features [[Unicorns]].

===Real-World References===
*Davey's costume before Strong Bad appears on the mountaintop is based on that of [[Wikipedia:Brynhildr#Wagner's "Ring" cycle|Brunnhilde]] from [[Wikipedia:Richard Wagner|Wagner's]] [[Wikipedia:Der Ring des Nibelungen| "Ring" cycle]]. It is considered an iconic and stereotypical operatic costume.
*The scene with Strong Bad on the mountaintop spoofs the [[Wikipedia:Night on Bald Mountain|"Night On Bald Mountain"]] sequence of the [[Disney]] movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Fantasia (film)|Fantasia]]'', with Strong Bad as Chernabog.
**It may also be a reference to the introduction of [[Wikipedia:Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire|Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire]], since the "Sierra Presents" logo also has a purple genie appearing out from behind a mountain.
*The line "You get French fries, and you get French fries, but you don't get French fries" may be a reference to the They Might Be Giants song, "Even Numbers" which contains the line, "you like French fries, but you don't like French fries".
*Davey's voice when he sings the song resembles [[Wikipedia:Ringo Starr | Ringo Starr's]].

==See Also==
*The [[Crystal Fortress Visuals|visuals]] for this video
*[[Crystal Fortress (song)]]

==External Links==
{{extlinks|crystal|15804}}
*[http://www.tmbg.com/_media/_pod/TMBGPodcast37A.mp3 download podcast MP3]
*[[TMBW:Crystal Fortress|see the This Might Be a Wiki article for "Crystal Fortress"]]

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Songs]]

User:AbdiViklas

AbdiViklas — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:03:38 GMT

AbdiViklas: edit userbox

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===A Notice===
On October 9, 2005, the Wiki user formerly known as '''notstrongorbad''' became '''AbdiViklas'''. I'd always kind of wished I had that name, since to the un-H*R-initiated it simply sounded like some foreign guy. Also it's better than my previous hurriedly-selected, defined-by-negation username. Though for the record, I'm still neither strong nor (relatively) bad. If you really want to see notstrongorbad's legacy, you can still see my contributions at [[Special:Contributions/notstrongorbad]], right back to Sept. 2004.
:'''Origin of the name''': If you're still wondering, it's a conflation of "Abdi LaRue" from [[some kinda robot]] and "Viklas" from [[little questions]]. The two appeared together in [[pom pom#Easter Eggs|pom pom]]. Abdi, according to [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]], was one of "10 people who had ever e-mailed them"; in the [[flashback#Commentary Transcript|DVD Commentary to flashback]] they imply that he e-mailed them "a lot."

==The Life and Times of AbdiViklas==
Pardon me while I figure out what I'm doing. You see, I'm looking at this giant, blank text input field, wondering how exactly a user page should be done and what should go in it. The general trend seems to involve talking about:
#your relationship to [http://www.homestarrunner.com Homestar], i.e. faves and when you first started watching,
#your involvement in the wiki, and
#optionally, yourself in real life.

Rebel that I am, I intend to proceed in ''reverse'' order!! Take that, James Dean!

==Behind the Handle: An Investigative Documentary==
     I know the simple data of a person's age and occupation don't define him or her--but they're a convenient place to start. I'm 28, and pretty much everything in my world rotates around the violin. 
     I went to the [http://www.rochester.edu/Eastman Eastman School of Music] in Rochester, NY, for four years—which is a bundle of stories, let me tell you. A ca. 800-student school has its own unique trials and joys. I came out with some very close friends, some unfriends who were always a little too close, and a largely unnecessary understanding of [[Wikipedia:Combinatoriality|hexachordal combinatoriality]]. I wouldn't trade it for the world. 
     After graduating in 2003, I taught violin lessons for awhile, got a master's degree in education, made the mistake of trying to use it to teach public school, and discovered that I was neither particularly good at nor happy teaching public school orchestra. I love one-on-one teaching, though, so I'm currently working on a doctorate in violin performance with the ultimate goal of teaching at a university—you know, with a ''salary''! I'm very interested in Baroque performance in particular, and am working on a dissertation about [[Wikipedia:Carlo_Farina|Carlo Farina's]] ''Capriccio Stravagante'', a 1627 piece in which string instruments "do impressions" of a bunch of other instruments, as well as cats meowing and dogs barking. 
     As a musician, I'm of course passionate about music. My tastes date from different periods of my life; only recently have I entered the quasi-hip, [http://www.pitchforkmedia.com Pitchfork]-informed neoindie aesthetic of the Postal Service and Sufjan Stevens; passions dating from high school include the chamber music of Brahms and Shostakovich and an abiding enthusiasm for [http://www.afrocelts.org/ world music] and [http://www.imota.net/ ethnomusicology]; in college I picked up a perverse liking for the minimalism of [http://www.stevereich.com/ Steve Reich], and for [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm hardcore Baroque performance practice], "the last avant-garde." But for all that, I'm not above top-40, especially with the windows down. 
     While on the topic of interests that verge on obsessions: I am a hard, hard, hardcore fan of the fiction of [http://www.chesterton.org/ G.K. Chesterton]. (My guitar-playing brother and I even named ourselves [http://www.whowasthursday.com Who Was Thursday] after his [http://www.dur.ac.uk/martin.ward/gkc/books/thursday.txt best-known novel].) This has several perks: 1) I get to be wildly enthusiastic about something almost unheard of, and give myself a pat on the shoulder for "eclecticism," but 2) I don't have to suffer through something appropriately obscure to do so; it's FUN!! I tried the same trick in high school with William Blake, but couldn't sustain my interest. Chesterton--man, I can't think of a ''thing'' he's written that isn't fun! 
     My hrwiki activities dropped off substantially in 2007 with the long-delayed introduction of '''romance''' into a lonely geek's life; as much fun as Homestar is, he ain't got nothing on marriage. I thoroughly expect my wiki activity to drop even lower, possibly into negative numbers, this fall with the birth of my first child! You can bet his or her first word will be "Sewiously." Possibly "Holy crap."

==Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction==

     My first introduction to Homestar was in 2003, when I happened to look over my brother's shoulder as he worked his way up the [[Compy 386]] menu (I believe the exact one that was playing was [[current status]].) Realizing, of course, that this was serious, I intended to do it right, and went straight to [[First Time Here?]], after which I proceeded to start with [[some kinda robot]] and work my way ''straight'' up.

==HRWiki: Another History of Another Addiction==

     Finally, the moment of critical mass had arrived: I had seen ''everything'' on the site. Hoping to find something, anything, related, I Googled Homestar and found this wiki. My first response, of course, was, "Those emails had Easter eggs?!!!" which provided several more hours of entertainment. 
     Thus began an era of brief but intense involvement in HRWiki. Or more specifically in the forum; while I adored and depended on the professionalism and thoroughness of the Wiki proper, I didn't feel qualified to actually work on it myself. From September 15 to Halloween of 2004, though, I was on the forum pretty much when I wasn't sleeping or playing for a show. When I started looking for a computer during intermission of that show, I knew I needed help. Seriously, what with school pressures, it was time to cut back, and I simply went cold turkey. (This might explain my sig there still having the, at the time, current "Side effects may include wine, women, and song!") 
     I still used the Wiki every time a new 'toon came out, but the magic of watching those articles take shape right before one's eyes is too great to witness impassively, and the past few times I've gotten involved myself. I figure if I'm always leaving it to the people who know what they're doing, I'll never be one. Accordingly, I'm busy making well-meaning but frequently embarrassing edits that sometimes actually do a little good. Once I even reverted a troll! 
     I don't aspire to become one of the prolific, untiring users who, day by day, make the Wiki the excellent resource and remarkably civil place it is; I really ''oughtn't'' to be spending more than about a day per week here, but I do intend to step up my level of involvement; if I'm going to partake of the benefits of the Wiki, it's my civic duty to contribute to its upkeep as well. I must say I've been encouraged by the responses that met my first efforts: pros like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] and [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] gently corrected my blunders, and I was so warmly welcomed by so many users who insisted on a user page that... well, the epic you've just read was written.

'''Update 11/13/05''': I finally have one of those "things I'm particularly proud of"! I was lucky enough to be on during round two of the [[HRWiki:NSMC vandal|NSMC]] incident; I made 87 reverts during that event, including 70 in 40 minutes. If you need me, I'll be recovering from repetitive motion injury!

==The End.==

User talk:AbdiViklas

AbdiViklas — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:39:33 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Baby daddy */ Best Halloween update ever!

=='''Explanatory note'''==
On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from '''notstrongorbad''' to '''AbdiViklas'''. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

==Toolbox==
For my use and whoever else finds it helpful:
*[[Wikipedia:List of XML and HTML character entity references|HTML character references]]
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thanks abdi--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 14:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Welcome! You've Got Mail ==
Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

=== Petition ===
We, the undersigned, do beleive it <strike>would be</strike> ''is'' very cool to see a [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] user page. ''Moreover, we sincerely thank ''notstrongorbad'' for writing such an amazing user page!'' (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC) ''KL''
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
*{{User:The Paper/sig}}
*{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}
*[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]
*— {{User:Lapper/sig}}
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=== Yay! ===
I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
::LOL. Nice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Can you help me? ==

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai
:     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; [[Help:Contents|Help]] is mostly on ''how'' to do things, [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] more on ''what'' to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at [[Help:Contents#Specific Help]]. 
:     But to answer your question: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in [[Talk:geddup noise|that email's Talk page]], and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into [[Template:STUFF/geddup noise|Stuff]], using the process described in [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference]] is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know. 
:     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in [[do over]], there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible [[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29|Family Guy reference]]. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|continue the debate]]. 
:     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape. 
:     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on [[guitar]]. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Tha Lyrical Flow==
Hey, '''notstrongorbad''', just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the ''same time''? Can it be ''done''? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), ''no'' talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called '''grad school''' (imagine [[origins|jittery green text]] plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? '''No one knows when to come in.'''") 
:     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::'''nsob''', I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of [[Wikipedia:The Descendents|The Descendents]] and the [[Wikipedia:Dead Kennedys|Dead Kennedys]], so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in [[comic]] for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, ''much'' easier to deal with than an actual drummer.

:::For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, [[Wikipedia: The Alkaline Trio|The Alkaline Trio]], except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator ''so'' authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::'''Abdi''' - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., ''prima donnas''), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

:::::nice. just nice. next there'll be a guitar that gets hangovers and doesn't even ''show up'' for practice. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Heimstern responds! ==
Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==New name==
Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::That better? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw [[HRWiki:Changing username|Changing username]] after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from Schuminweb ==

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. [[User:Schuminweb|Schuminweb]] 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalization... It used to be so coooool... ==

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! ''{said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Rant re TGS 10 ==
''{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}'' 
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking [[Talk:geddup_noise#Rant_Re:_Reality|at length]]. I can feel it coming. 
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction ''within'' the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in [[comic]], it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices). 
     ''On the other hand'', several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—'''now'''—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself ''into'' the interior fiction, then causes his representation ''in that world'' to interact with its characters, then interacts ''himself'' across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees. 
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the ''first'' time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact '''not''' Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF nuances==
Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a ''huge'' problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC chatroom]] sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. How are ya? When there's more than one STUFF revision, it's not necessary for you to completely move your vote. You should just decline one revision and accept the other. (You could also decline more than one revision, should you choose.) When one of the votes is close, it's actually better if you don't remove yours from the list. The only thing that isn't currently allowed is for someone to ''accept'' more than one revision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you for the welcome. ==

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--[[user:Kookykman|The Kooky One]][[User talk:Kookykman|(talk)]] 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Note to Self ==

Cheat talk standardized through Puppet Time. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Pages that need serious work, or completion, if I (or anbody else for that matter) happen to be bored:'''
*[[Happy Trogday]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit Visuals]]
*[[Ballad of The Sneak#DVD Version]]

'''Issues to check in on from time to time:'''
*[[Mellow Mushroom/The Sun Almost Rises]]
*stripe-ed etc.
*teenage variations

== Duffrence ==

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

:If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read [[HRWiki:User space]]. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

:Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.

== slight mistake ==
Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto [[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82's]] talk page.—[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::None at all. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Dude... ==

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was ''our'' Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07!
--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/ fanstuff wiki]? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner
:Cool. Yeah, I ''used'' the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Five tildes makes the date? 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC) FIle that under "Things I Didn't Know About MediaWiki"! Anyhoo, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm somewhat active on Wikipedia, so I know my way around a wiki. I came here for a bit of fun ;) {{User:Thetorpedodog/SIG}} 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's how I separated my name from the date on my welcome template! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks AbdiViklas! (just so you know, I was the one who created the real-world references for DVD version on [[garage sale]], but if you look in recent changes it shows an IP) I realized you left me a welcome message on my talk page (I am on2see, I can't get Firefox to remember wiki cookies (any help appreciated)) Thanks again! [[User:On2see|On2see]]
:Glad you got a username! Now then—you mean you're having a problem staying logged in because Firefox won't use the cookies? (And by the way, brownie points and good karma to ya for using Firefox!) For me, if I go to the '''Tools''' menu, then '''Options''', then the '''Privacy''' tab, I find the controls for cookies. My settings are "allow sites to set cookies," "for the originating site only," and keep "til they expire," and it seems to work fine for me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I changed my settings, but now on some pages it shows I am logged in (ex. on the page that shows right after I log in) and, well, ''sometimes not...'' (ex. right now as I am editing your talk page, it shows my ip address and also says '''create an account or log in'''... But thanks for the quick response! You're my favorite Wikipedian (really!) Thanks, [[User:on2see|on2see]]
:::Thanks! But what you're experiencing is still odd, and it would be nice to get it tracked down. One other thing: when I sign in, I usually select the "remember me" checkbox (since I'm using my own computer in my own apartment); if I hadn't, I'd need to sign in each time I re-open my browser. If you're using a private computer you might try that. Beyond that, you'll need the help of those who know more about these superboxes than I do, to figure out why your cookies are crumbling. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad = Marzipan ==

Hey Abdi! Yeah, I originally heard the song say "Strong Bad ''is'' Marzipan" also... I, too, thought that was weirder than weird. So, you're not alone. Crapfully yours, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC) ''{comment continued in next thread}''

== T-shirt pitches==
Hey, as a theory type, I was just muddling over whether there were any rhyme or reason to the pitches selected for the t-shirts in the store? I was on the verge of doing a set analysis, but somehow my sense of perspective must have put in an unwonted appearance. I mean, it's probably just Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic--but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to accidentally fit some complicated explanation! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:I wondered that myself. For awhile, I thought it was a whole tone scale, but I found that wasn't correct. So, after reading your question, I decided to use my theory chops (and that neat little trick called absolute pitch) to find out what it is. Here's what I got: A-B-C#-D#-F#-G#-A#-C-C#-D-Eb-F-G-Bb. So, there are some whole-tone segments, but it's certainly not entirely whole tone. Not to mention that I swear a few of them are some kind of quarter tone. I can't really find any good pattern for it at all (if only it had been octatonic! A little Homestravinsky Runner!) Geez, the other, normal, non-music-nerd people on the Wiki are going to have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Anyway, that's the answer I've got for your question. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::LOL!! Homestravinsky Runner—''there's'' something for Fanstuff. (How 'bout what would have happened if, instead of They Might Be Giants, they had outsourced [[different town]] to, say, Philip Glass? "''Towanisqatsi'': You'll Think You're Pea-Buried Alive!") But I'm going with the "Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic" analysis. (Though more interesting—perhaps venturing into psychoacoustics?—would be what intervallic structure, invented or otherwise, may have subconsciously influenced his output?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know where this fits into the discussion, but I think they recorded the sound once and then modulated it up and/or down. Other than the pitch, the sound effect is uniform from one T-shirt to the next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hm—true. Which would actually make it ''more'' likely that the resulting pitches are intentional. Hm. On closer inspection (and note, we're talking about the lineup in [[Flash Store]] here), I hear the last pitches from D through G a half step higher than you (Bb I hear the same). If this were true, and it were reduced into prime form—crap, it still wouldn't be chromatic. I'm not taking the time to think through this very carefully, but I ''think'' prime form would be G#-A-A#-B-C-C#-D#-E-F#. This would be chromatic for the span of a perfect fourth and octatonic for another perfect fourth; there, that makes as good a sense as any. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::: "Rondleman is my D-S-C-H!" Abdi, that is, IMHO, ''at least'' as good as Homestravinsky Runner! You crack me up! Crack! me! up! As for the pitches, you may be right (one thing that was driving me crazy was that a lot of them sounded like they were between two semitones). It's as good a theory as any. This has to be one of the weirdest intersections of Homestar Runner addiction and music nerdiness ever to appear on the Wiki... it's awesome. Maybe I should suggest that the other Homestar fans at my department read this. They'd probably think I've been smoking something. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, in particular that D and/or D# for the TGS shirt. If we take that to be a D, it gets even cooler: chromatic G#-D, one tritone; whole-tone D-G# (by implication), the remaining tritone!! (And yes... there needs to be a Trogdorcon-style segment of Strong Bad making fun of anybody who'd do what we just did.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So, I just found out that I wasn't even looking at the same set of pitches as you. I didn't realize the T-shirt pitches even existed in the new store and was using the old store t-shirt pitches. So, there may be a bit of difference because of that (notably, the old store had more pitches). That being said, I'm a little busy reading ''Stravinsky and the Rite of Spring'' right now to make any comparisons between the collections (although Prof. van den Toorn might be pleased if I found some octatonic/diatonic intersections in the collections...) Anyway, as always, I remain, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:No, I realized we were talking about the [[Flash Store]] when you cited 14 pitches, and my comments above have been in connection to them. I would guess that, even ''if'' there was a musical motivation in their pitch-shifting decisions for the 14-shirt lineup, the pitches that exist in the current store are simply a result of which t-shirts have been dropped. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== arguments??? ==

I don't give arguments to back up my edits!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:Oh. If you're talking about my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stephen923&diff=175892&oldid=169416 post on your talk page] about [[pizzaz]], then no, I don't normally post to people's talk pages when I edit either. In this case, though, you had already made the edit and I had reverted it several times, so I thought explaining myself might have been better than reverting at each other in silence. Incidentally, since then, I noticed somebody else (I forget who, but I think a sysop) put a "sic" in an html comment (<nowiki></nowiki>), saying he didn't like seeing them in the transcript. So your edit was actually a good one (although we should still put it in a comment). Unfortunately—since you ''don't'' give arguments to back up your edits, even by using the "Summary:" box, all I could tell was that you didn't know what ''sic'' means. Perhaps next time an edit summary would be helpful. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, it's about the Marshie history page.--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
::I see. Still, [[HRWiki:Standards#Always use the Summary box|using the summary box]] is a good idea. (Actually, more than just a good idea.) If you make an edit, you probably have a reason for doing so; explaining that reason might make others less likely to revert it, or at least let them know you're making thoughtful edits and not just trolling. (Getting a user name helps in the same way; props in that regard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Um...was this suppossed to be for me? That's what it says...if this is about the edits I have made with no summary, it was because I accidentally clicked "save page" before putting in the summary. -[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::No no, sorry 'bout that; I confused the two "S" people who posted on my page today. I was talking to [[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]. (And you don't have to tell me about the perils of clicking "Save page" too early; I need to learn to use "Show preview" more often. Then I'd have fewer consecutive edits where I correct my own spelling or add periods. And less crushed spirits, too!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::::From the Marshie history page, ''(Reverted edit of 24.24.226.13, who perhaps will give us some argument to back up his edit, and changed back to last version by DorianGray)''--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:::::Yes, I know what you're talking about. My reply is four paragraphs above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ooooooops!!! ==

I guess I should have looked the word "pronunciation" up in a dictionary before i changed it...sorry about that!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:S'cool! By the way, if you're using Firefox (if you're not... '''do!'''), there's a nice plugin called DictionarySearch that lets you right click on a word and look it up instantly in a dictionary. (I also used Firefox's "keyword search" function on www.m-w.com's search box, so I can just type, say, "mw pronunciation" into the address bar and go straight to the definition. Just two more examples of why Life Is Better With Firefox!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks for the advese...advise. [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Verse ==

I'm cool with making that read like poetry. I just copied it from the WP article. But is it a poem? I thought it was just a saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:Again, I assume it was in German at first. I added the slash because it was the only thing I could figure the semicolon was thinking of. It ''is'' a rhyming couplet; although it's certainly not "a poem," a lot of folk wisdom sayings are expressed in rhyme. I think the fun fact could do just fine without the slash, though; just so long as there isn't a semicolon there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::I just figured whoever put the semicolon there did so because of all the commas before it, in an attempt to separate it. But the solidus is fine with me. By the way, it's "[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]." :) 06:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::?? I.e. if I'm going to drop the "It's" you'd prefer I capitalize the ''d''? But don't you prefer the "It's" be included anyway? (I was being a little informal in the summary; sorry!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... I think all would be best explained by a trip to the first line of my [[User:It's dot com|user page]] (although I was also partially rebelling against the one-word "dotcom" variety from the edit summary on the STUFF page). — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 06:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Welcome==
Hey AbdiViklas. I was just wondering how you are welcoming people with your user page instead of a welcome. It is obvious that you are doing it by accident. Do you use a sub page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I'm supposed to type ''<nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''. In a hurry, I often forget the ''/welcome'' part. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Why don't you just copy and paste it? Thats what I do, and it has been working pretty well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suppose I could. It's one step longer than ''subst'', but fool-proof! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I have been doing it 150 times. No problems yet! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

----

Thanks for the welcome. Almost as fast as we do at [http://furry.wikicities.com/ WikiFur] (and, truth be told, somewhat more polished ;-). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks! I know we've got at least one Furry enthusiast around here, [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]], although he hasn't been around much lately. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *chuckles* - yes, I know furrykef, he used to hang out with us in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicities #wikicities]. Been a fortnight since I've seen him - maybe he's gone on an online poker binge . . . [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sid and Marty Kroft Present: G.K. Chesterton ==

Abdi, because of you I now know of G.K. Chesterton. If I ever come across a "Father Brown" story, I'll know the truth - the truth embodied in a large, walrus-like British author/journalist. I now consider myself just that much richer in spirit. Next order of bwisness - determining the fate of Mayor McCheese. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Seriously. You should see me when I find out that there's some out-of-print story of his I haven't read! I do a little dance that certain NFL touchdowners have been known to refer to as "vulgar excess." So yeah, if you like detective stories, Father Brown is a great way to start (particularly ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/innocence/title.html The Blue Cross]'', but the best-known, and arguably best, piece of fiction he ever wrote is the novel ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/thursday/thursday.html The Man Who Was Thursday]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Losing the will to check the edits closely ==

I knew that would happen. Earlier today I had to force myself not just to hit the revert button, and actually examine the edit. Why won't this guy talk to us? On an unrelated note, I have, upon reflection, decided that compromise might be the best avenue for the New Boots/different town non-reference. It's too bad B left so quickly, before we could have a chance to really discuss it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Indeed, it's perplexing. I can't figure out whether he (or she, but he in the future for simplicity) is an extremely zealous, extremely well-meaning, extremely misguided individual, or a one-trick troll. Some of his edits really are improvements, like correcting something to reflect what SB really typed, but others seem to just add !s where there are few and take them away where there are many. But no, in the final analysis I think he must be well meaning. My only explanation for the silence is either that he's a true "gnome," who tries to do good but is shy and prefers anonymity, or that he's a user so new he hasn't discovered his own talk page or Recent changes, and is simply selecting emails at random. (Say—there isn't any kind of browsing setup that would keep someone from seeing the "new messages" banner, is there?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm confounded as well. My hunch was that he <s>or she</s> was never getting the message, hence my test on the sandbox, but I was able to receive my message to myself just fine as an anonny. And this guy's not even experiencing the weird IP changes I was, so that shouldn't be an issue. No, I think we're being ignored. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== On Trolling and other Isomorphisms... ==

Don't mind my nonsensical banter... I am currently (''not'') working on writing a statement of purpose for my fellowship application (properly read: ''avoiding it''). Don't ask when it's due, otherwise you'd be shocked. Anyway, I was thinking we should make up a section called ''[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=187594&oldid=187593 trolls post the dardnest things.]'' It would be a hit don't you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It would be ''hilarious''... but don't you think people would then ''try'' to get in it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, I'd read it. Several times. In fact, I'd print it and read it offline. Now I'm excited. I really hope this is able to be done ''somewhere''. I'd love helping this thing. Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::EDIT CONFLICT (or whatever): Yes, people trying to get in might be bad... Perhaps it'd be better to not broadcast the idea.
::I think they would want to get in. I admit that I've gotten an occasional guilty pleasure out of reading the ridiculous things trolls write (and I'm always thinking to myself, "This is vandalism! I'm not supposed to find this funny!") Anyway, it would just encourage trolls to keep vandalizing if they hoped to get featured somewhere on the Wiki. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm reminded, for some reason, of the Simpsons (or was it Futurama?) spoof of Bill Cosby's similarly titled show. What if this were done somewhere off-wiki? (I.e. on somebody's website or blog?) 
:Stux: What manner of beast is said fellowship application? It sounds like the sort of thing that carries high stakes. Me, all I have to do is transcribe some field notes and make some lesson plans, but I've been putting it off all day and so will stay up all night to make up (yeah, that's how I work). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:''(DorianGray): Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion.'' A hint of seriousness yes, an iota, I am not so sure ;). Unfortunately, yes, this could serve as an incentive. But have any of you guys ever read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense|Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense]] (or rather perused through it)? We'll always have trolls you know, just not as many as the big 'pedia, but even an increase might be 'enough'. As for the fellowship, it is a [http://was.nd.edu/gem/gemwebapp/public/gem_01_100.htm summer-work] type program that links you with industry and helps you pay for your grad school. I'm *finally* getting momentum, esp now that I found my grad school application essay and realized it will likely help me finish what i need to do! <insert *evil grin* here> :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I actually ''have'' gone through the Deleted Nonsense stuff on the big wiki. It's amazing... And I'm sure we have our fair share of weirdness... I know I've seen some. Now then. Back to the All Hallow's Eve toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::wow, i just looked at that page. hours of wierd things about evil squirrels and chocolate covered raisins......{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Note ==

It's not "What am I supposed to do?", but "What ''I'm'' supposed to do?". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oop. Thanks. That makes a little more sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or a little ''less'' sense, depending on how you look at it. I guess it makes more sense for Homestar. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==Solfège...==

Humming RE-MI-DO-DO-SOL, eh? What does that refer to? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/ Close Encounters of the Third Kind]''. Aliens contact Earth—and choose moveable do as the best method of communication. (Seriously—they even know the hand symbols!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::That would explain my lack of recognition. I haven't seen that film. And am not missing much, apparently, if it features moveable do. I really dislike moveable do. Talk atcha later. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::WHOA no you don't—knock moveable do and then just postpone the discussion!!! (For onlookers, this is what music nerds fight over. It's like which Elvish language is better.) And them '''is''' fightin' words. I'm not going to go into my rant on the subject at the moment, but it's very entertaining (as long as I don't break anything). On the other subject, you ought to see movie; if you like sci-fi it's a classic, but even if you don't it's a well-shaped movie for its time. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That's it, man! We are dueling to the death! A PLAGUE UPON MOVEABLE DO! No, just kidding. It's only a personal dislike, not a pedagogical philosophy or anything like that. But, since I have absolute pitch, I don't find it very useful. I prefer a system that always calls a C a C. I actually just use the German names of notes (since they're all monosyllables). I guess a lot of people find moveable do useful, but I was always annoyed that my teachers made me use it too when it isn't my ''modus operandi'' at all. Anyway, that's my philosophy. Talk to my man with the green and white stripes. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that ''is'' my objection to fixed do (one of them); as long as we're using these letters, it's simply a redundant system. If we were French it would be different, but at the moment we already have a system tied to absolute pitch. (Learning it for the purpose of international communication is a different matter; I have a Korean student whom I use it with since he grew up with it; but for sight-singing purposes it doesn't really bring anything new to the party, where as moveable brings an opportunity to engage tonality.) I guess, in pedagogical contexts, its supporters are putting a higher priority on developing absolute pitch than on developing sensitivity to tonal function. Personally, preferring a less eurocentric view of musics, I'm not as wed to a 12-note, octave-based, equal-tempered system as the be-all and end-all; I think training students to critically match a provided pitch is the most important. (I keep having dreams of writing a piece of ear training software with string instruments in mind that uses some midi controller with a slider—preferably emulating the physical instrument—to adjust the user's pitch to match a generated one, with visual representation on-screen and a little "you win!" message when it matches!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I suppose you're right, it's just that I've never used real fixed-do, just my German system (which I usually consider a variant on fixed-do). I don't really have any use for old do, re and mi except when singing ''The Sound of Music'' (which I don't really ever sing). For me, sightsinging is much easier with an absolute pitch system, so I sing "ah, ha, tseh, tseh, deh" (for the Glance motive from ''Tristan'') or whatever for whatever notes I need. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, for my own use, I prefer "moveable la." (Something we used to joke about in college—"La, la, la, la..." Not to mention moveable na, doot, and doo. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
''{conversation continued in next section...}''

Oh, something just came into my mind about this earlier today: About the first pronouncement I ever heard on the topic of moveable-do (or any kind of solfège) was from my fabulously musical mother, who bluntly told me, "Solfège is stupid." So, I was probably biased against it from the beginning, and that surely contributed to my bad attitude about it for the rest of time. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==...And the Absoluteness of Absolute Pitch==
I really don't have anything useful to add to this conversation, other than to say I understood it, and to agree with AbdiViklas, because moveable do makes way more sense in the sense of teaching singing within a key or when a particular key isn't important (I realize that's a strange concept to someone with perfect pitch (which I don't have, but I wish I did. I do have pretty good pitch memory, so if you ask me to sing an F, I can usually hit it or at least get within a half step, but I can't hear a note out of the blue and immediately say, Oh, that's an A-sharp)). I still, however, think both AbdiViklas and Heimstern Läufer are cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:And the sentiment is mutual. I have this weird thing that I've heard referred to as "acquired pitch"; i.e. from playing the violin so long I've developed pitch-identification ability within its range, but my skillz have an abrupt cutoff at the bottom note of the violin. Also, certain instrumental "voiceprints" completely throw me for a loop. I can ID a pitch on piano, flute, oboe, saxophone—but I'm pretty inconsistent with clarinet. And, frustratingly, the human voice! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I hear about people being able to identify pitches only on certain instruments all the time. I've never had that experience; to me, a pitch is a pitch, whatever instrument it is. I've actually often wondered what it would be like not to be able to identify and produce pitches at will, and I admit that it baffles me as much as it must baffle the normal people to know that I can do so. Oh, and Dot com, you may not want to wish you had absolute pitch. It's a really neat party trick, but it can be really frustrating. If someone starts singing a song in a key other than the original, it really grates on me. Then there's period-instrument recordings: while I certainly respect their intentions, I really can't listen to them because they play everything too low. So, those are the disadvantages of absolute pitch. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, now I don't have that problem. I can ''tell'' when something isn't aligned to a modern, Western, equal-temperament A-440 scale, but I don't suffer under it. After all, our selection of A-440 is so arbitrary (unless there's some kind of acoustic principle I don't know about, like the circumference of the earth divided by the distance to da mooon on the winter solstice equals A-440), and, although there are some mathematical arguments for our division of the octave, I prefer to engage the scale systems of other cultures on their own terms. Admittedly, it is a little hard for me to listen to a [[Wikipedia:Gamelan|Gamelan]] and remember that it's not just "out of tune," that they tuned it to those pitches just as carefully as I do, but if it's a 10-minute piece I get acclimated before long. The alternative is the colonial British attitude that dismissed the Carnatic system as a primitive "folk music" because their "poor intonation" was "indicative of a bad ear."
:::     And yeah, I played in Eastman's baroque ensemble for a couple of years (I didn't realize at first what a resource I had there, or who [http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=115 Paul O'Dette] was!), and it really throws you for a loop to play roughly an exact half step down. After the first 10 minutes of the rehearsal, though, I just get recalibrated into "Baroque mode." (But when listening to my prized [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm Freiburger] CDs, I still mentally identify what I'm hearing as a half step below what's written, and if I try to think about it it screws me up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Arbitrary A=400 is indeed, yet it is completely ingrained into my ear. I guess it wouldn't make a difference if the Baroque ensemble were playing a piece I didn't know, since I wouldn't know its real key (although it sounds odd to me to hear a Baroque piece in Db major, since that was a rather uncommon key during that era.) The biggest problem is anything well-known: if it's ''The Messiah'' or a Brandenburg concerto the lower pitch is just going to sound wrong to me. Ahistorical and arbitrary, but still part of my congnition. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, same here. I have the problem of kind of subconsciously imagining the physicality of the note, i.e. the fingering they're doing—which gets pretty funky in Db (or Gb!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Pitch (music)#Historical pitch standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Amen, hallelujah, preach it. Also http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1305.htm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Hi guys! I've been following this conversation for a while, and I figured I may have something to actually contribute: I have this vague recollection from my physics II class that the reason 440Hz is used is in part due to resonance qualities of the material. That is, that would be why we'd use 440Hz and not 439 or 441. (????) I'm trying to find out more about the subject, then again reading about [[Wikipedia:Pitch_%28music%29#Need_to_standardize_pitch|Pitch standardization]] suggests that I remembered it wrong, and that the resonance frequencies have to do with all the ''C'' frequencies being the same, and the pitch really IS arbitrary. (Apparently they tried to set A at 439 once but it being prime was really hard to reproduce). While reading i'm learning about such big phrases as [[Wikipedia:Fundamental_frequency|Fundamental_frequency]] and [[Wikipedia:Harmonic series (music)|Harmonic series]]. Hmmm, maybe I don't have anything to contribute... I like shiny things. (There, that's better!). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::But don't assume we ''really'' play at A-440 today. We had an Israeli/French/German conductor at Eastman who routinely tuned us to 442 or so. I hear it's fairly popular in Europe (but what do you expect from people who drink Warm Ones). I hear also there's some concern about pitch just continuing to rise "out of control" (see a [http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-January/001455.html response] to that concern). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! Did I just read that correctly? Fines by the Italian government for tuning forks outside of 440!? O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Proposed, proposed. And as I read more I'm getting very confused; I'm not sure what connection [[Wikipedia:Lyndon LaRouche|a guy]] who tried to run for president from jail has to the Italian senate, or whether any bill with his name on it would really be taken seriously. On the one hand, it must seem remarkable to the general onlooker that these music nerds are ''at'' each other's ''throats'' over a half-step, but on the other hand the whole "Slatkin serves Satan" thing and the absurdity of all these shenanigans are vaguely pleasing to me. They renew my faith that the "classical" music scene has not simply ossified into an arena for the performance of 18th-century works with 19th-century sensibilities amid 20th-century conventions of a darkened, hushed audience composed mainly of nursing home excursions and tobacco heiresses trying to assuage their inherited guilt by donating to a cause that is both ostensibly societally uplifting and effectually exclusivist. Rather, it offers hope that the sheer ''messiness'' we see in music history—with major composers' mud-slinging, name-calling, old-school/new-school ([[Wikipedia:Ars nova|Ars nova]], [[Wikipedia:Claudio Monteverdi|seconda practica]]), East-coast/West-coast-style invective, rampant rumors that certain [[Wikipedia:Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini|virtuosi]] ''did'' in fact "serve satan," and audiences that simultaneously awarded their [[Wikipedia:Farinelli|favorite vocalists]] with lives of fame, free love, and [http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/a/plate_ipa00014.html gratuitous jewelry] that rival any modern-day blingster, and then gossiped obliviously through the operas to the point that even their pet stars, when their arias came, had to come out to the edge of the stage, grab the spotlight, and gesticulate broadly to wrest their attention—is not dead. (If you didn't follow that sentence, leave out everything between the dashes.) In a way, it's almost a performance art of sorts; LaRouche, his critics, the respective governments, and the colorful, vicious, vivacious rhetoric form one big, societal piece of entertaining pageant—"reality opera," if you will! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hallrunner ==

Awesome job on [[Hallrunner]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I was bored, and using "random page" until I found something worth editing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==wiki defender thing...y==

Hey abdi, thanks for the trophy!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, dude! That's was awesome to see first thing in the morning! [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 19:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hey; that seemed to me to be the clearest example I've seen yet of what it was meant for. But you know, with a little extra effort it would have been chock full of Steak-umms! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks also from me. :) I didn't do much, but I appreciate it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And many ''mahalos'' from me too. I think that was the ultimate recognition I've always wanted on here... Thanks, man. And I'd just about had it with that trolling toaster. So I stepped in to fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hizzlary Hahn==

So I just got back from a Hilary Hahn concert. She stuck around afterwards to sign CDs; I cursed myself for not bringing mine, and for not bringing a camera. Can you imagine how a photo of me 'n' Hilary would look on my user page?! (If you're having trouble understanding the significant beautification that this would represent for my page, examine [http://www.hilaryhahn.com hilaryhahn.com].) You have to understand, she's like exactly my age; when I was 16 I bought her solo Bach CD simply because she was on the cover (and no, we're not talking about a [[Wikipedia:Lara St. John|Lara St. John]] cover; her eyebrow alone was enough to sell me), and have harbored a crush ever since. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:This may actually be the first time I've heard of anyone having a crush on a famous ''classical'' musician. I can't say I've ever had one of those myself. At least I'm glad to hear that not ''all'' the heartthrobs have to be no-talents like Britney Spears. Anyway, that's cool you got to see Hilary Hahn in concert; I hear she's great, although I haven't yet heard her myself. I probably don't listen to as much violin solo music as you do, since I'm a horn-player-turned-tenor. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::They say you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but if she plays half as hot as she looks, then you had an extremely enjoyable concertgoing evening, to put it mildly. You should have drawn a picture of her and handed it to her after the concert. She would have posted it on her website. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah, but she does, that's the marvel of it. Her strong suit is an absolute, impeccable, superhuman purity and perfection of tone and intonation. You could have a competition in which all the major violin supastars play only one note each, and she'd win, for her bow control. Others may have a tone that sounds perfect from 10 feet away, but then you could put it under a microscope and you'd find the tiniest jitter or bump in their sound and none in Hilary's. >>''Edit'': Wait, I just found an Amazon page that puts it well: "Her tone has the directness and intensity of a laser beam and the unblemished purity of fine-spun crystal." (That page, btw, is her own [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/580596/ref=ed_mus_mysh_qp_hahn_1/102-4070132-3504108 music recommendations]; the story of her convergence with [[Wikipedia:...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] is quite amusing.)<< That Her weakness is that her artistic persona and interpretations are fairly reserved, poised, collected, and cool. Not like she's a cold fish, or lacks emotive expression; she can bring it; but she's not all-over-the-place, blood-'n'-guts melodrama like [http://www.nadjasalernosonnenberg.com/ Nadja], and sometimes I want that. I'd actually prefer both artists for different pieces. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, Heimstern (can I call you Heimstern?), I played horn too! I'm immensely glad I chose it (due to its superiority over all the other brass instruments (I'll insert that qualifier there since this ''is'' AbdiViklas's page, and there's no need to be a bad guest here)), but the real reason I originally selected horn over trumpet is that this hot girl was also in the section. Another ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Yes, Dot com, please do call me Heimstern. I find it overly formal and awkward when people address me by both first name and surname (if those terms really apply to a pseudonym like "Heimstern Läufer"). I always did love the horn, and I picked it because I liked the instrument, not for any ulterior motives. (I also thought I'd have advantages finding the right notes because of absolute pitch.) Then came college and the teacher from the abyss. We were ''not'' meant for each other at all. So, I'm now a tenor. Let me tell you, the world of vocalists is ''miles'' away from the world of instrumentalists. Half of them seem to seriously believe that singing the right rhythm is optional. I've actually been working on a Schubert song, "Auf dem Strom", which features a horn part in addition to voice and piano. It has to be one of the most beautiful and heartrending songs ever written. It alone proves your point that the horn is the greatest of brass instruments, since no trumpet or tuba could ever be so lyrical and full of ''Sehnsucht''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 18:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::LOL—I had a tubist friend at Eastman who would be up in arms at that. Thanks to his friendship, I know far more about tubas, tuba rep, and where to buy tubas than I'll ever need to. I've also had the joy of hearing the last movement of the [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LWQH/qid=1132021791/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=classical Mendelssohn violin concerto] (listen to track 3) arranged for tuba!! "Bopbopbopbop ''boop'' boodeboop boop boop boop boop boop..." It's something like watching a hippo do a tap routine on a tightrope: astounding, but you wonder why it had to be done. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, tubists just exist in a completely alternate universe to us, anyway. My thought about them is the same thing all we tenors think about basses: "Why would anyone ''want'' to sing/play that low?" [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==I know I am not supposed to, but==

I need to talk again...
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you did it the right way this time. Forum ahoy! (Though I can't be much help; I'm leaving in half an hour for a big music teachers' convention.) There are plenty of smart folks over there, though, who can take my place. I will at least check up on your edits at the forum before I leave and when I get back Monday night. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey again, I sent a message to you in the forum, send a repply when you get the chance.
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==A telegrammaparcel==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Feel free to leave me an electronic message. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''
==Sweden??==
Judging by that message you posted on Sir Strong Bad's talk page, are you seriously from Sweden, or are you just saying that 'cause your name is Abdi'''Viklas'''? Because Sweden is totally my favorite country ever. Because I used to live in Sweden before we moved to Seattle. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, I'm no more from Sweden than [http://www.mclars.com/ MC Lars] is actually "[http://mclars.com/laptop_lyrics.html#stock Straight Outta Stockholm]." For what it's worth, I'm a hardcore fan of Swedish folk music, especially the group [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogArtist_01.asp?Action=Get&Artist_ID=45 Väsen]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::Never heard of it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Not an acceptable situation! Check out particularly their second US release, [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogAlbum_01.asp?Album_ID=101 Whirled] (even though it's from, like, '96, it's still their best single album). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I'll take a look at it. Thanks. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Hey there Abdiviklas, how have you been, i've noticed you mostly answer my questions in the discussion pages, lets get to konw each other:

1.Whats your real name?

2.What do you do for a living?

3.How did you get the name "AbdiViklas"?

4.How long have you been on Homestar runner wiki?

5.How did you find me?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, you can get some of the information you want from Abdi's [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]]. A person's user page is usually the best place to start if you want to know about a user. Hope that's helpful! (And, Abdi, hope you don't mind my butting in.) ''(grins sheepishly)'' [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not at all; I've been doing it a good bit myself recently! And he's right, Nikolce; my [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]] explains questions 3 and 4 pretty well. As for #1, I prefer not to use my real name on the internet if I can help it. And for #5, I found you by watching [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] and noticing the questions you were asking on discussion pages.
I have some questions for you, actually!
#How do you pronounce your name? With friends with international names, I like to at least make an effort to pronounce them correctly. I know it's hard to explain in writing, without being able to speak, but at least could you explain the "-ce" ending: does the "e" have much of a sound? If so, is it more of an "ey," like "hey," or "e" like "wet"? And what does the "c" do—a "s" sound, a "k" sound, or a "ch" sound?
#I think we're all a little confused about your gender. You mentioned that your name translates to "Nick," but [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] adressed you as a lady. (Here "Nick" is usually a guy's nickname, short for Nicholas; the female equivalent is "Nicole." I've never known a girl named "Nick," though I think I have heard of one who went by "Nicky."
#Umm... I guess I only had two questions, but a two-number list didn't seem like a real list. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:1. The way you say my name is would be like the same way to say Europian names: Nikolce Kocovski-Ne-kol-che Ko-cho-v-ske. 
:2.I'm male, its just that Nick is easier to say then Nikolce, I've never been called Nicholas or Nikky, but you can call me that if you wish. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== More Anagrams ==

Now look what you've done. That anagram thing you showed me is massively addicting. But there's one in particular I wanna share. "Strongbadia" can be arranged to spell "A brat's doing". Don't you love it when they work out and mean something relavent like that? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I personally think Strong Bad should abandon the "Prof. Tor Coolguy" moniker in favor of "Dr. Snot Bag". [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
::But who among us will agree that Strong Mad is "Most Grand"? Although Strong Bad would agree that Strong Sad "Drags Tons", I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Holy cow—what storm have I unleashed?? Those are supoib, guys. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== A Reply ==

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for caring. I appreciate it. [[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Don't mention it. In fact, it could be considered a school assignment, since I'm currently reading [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807746096/qid=1132443884/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 The Challenge to Care in Schools: An Alternative Approach to Education]. I find it a little alarming that the idea of giving a crap can be described as "an alternative approach," though in fairness it gets into way more than that. It's about creating a supportive classroom community that doesn't just announce the tenets of "character education" without really believing them, but models and values true... well, caring. Much more fun. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== On TOCs and other nuances ==

Hey Abdi! What's up? I wanted to brief you on TOC oddities since you asked about it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Coach_Z&diff=202369&oldid=202367 here]. Basically, what Mediawiki does is that it hides TOCs for pages with less than 3 titles (i think it's 3 at least), however there are special commands such as <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></code> that make the TOC be placed in that precise location and have the TOC always be hidden, respectively. I think that toc can make a TOC appear in short pages, but I think <code><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></code> might be more of what you need. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words This page] explains more in depth the different Magic Words available for use in the wiki. I hope this is helpful and informative! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Cool. I thought it had something to do with the titles, and added one at the top of the page (thinking the important thing was that the page start with one); that must have bumped it over three, since a TOC appeared. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jibney ==

Looking at Jibney's edit history, it looks like he's always been a little off-the-wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided he just wanted to start making gibberish edits here and there. But then again, it's also possible someone is trying to make him look bad. Any ideas? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think he was immitating president bush when he signed your guestbook. I think he just wants attention and wants it bad. My guess is that he either thought it would be ok to deface a vandal's ip user page, or it might even be his own and doesn't know he can't prove that it's his ip. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::'''(Edit conflict):''' Yeah; he ''has'' demonstrated an ability to write in at least semi-standard English (e.g. his last few responses on his user page). I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he has made legit article edits like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strongbadia&diff=prev&oldid=199670]. Remember several of our power users started out rough, with a block or two. ''{after edit conflict}'' ...and I would think it would be more in his interests to prove it's ''not'' his IP! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::''(I almost put this [[Talk:The_Brothers_Chaps%27_Fansite_Acknowledgements#Possession|in the wrong section]])'' Jibney claims to have been [[User:Timmy%21|Timmy]], who used to be a vandal. (Not a Visigoth) But yeah the changes are recent enough that it would be best that they are not his. But remember he doesn't have to explain that (innocent till proven guilty?), just explain his current actions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yep. And he also identifies himself as one Marshieman on the Fanstuff wiki, who apparently wore out his welcome there for general obnoxiousness in Aug and was blocked for a year. See [[User talk:Jibney#Hello, Marshieman.]]; apparently [[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] has some bad blood for him (see also [[User talk:Jibney#Heh heh...]]). Obviously he has his past, but I'd prefer to hold out hope whenever possible. A mentor orchestra teacher I know has several stories of kids that she would have paid money to get out of her class, who she didn't believe had ''any'' musical talent... who went on to attend conservatories and ultimately become music teachers themselves. Besides, unless blocks are made binding unilaterally across the wikis, he should be judged simply by what he does here.
::::To the best I can tell, neither [[User:Timmy!|Timmy]] nor [[User:Jibney|Jibney]] has ever been blocked here. The user Jibney was created, actually, at [[User:Kerrek_slaya|Kerrek_slaya]]'s suggestion when Timmy couldn't remember his password and didn't have an email address (see [[User_talk:66.169.119.137]]). And to avoid confusion, I strongly doubt that ''our'' [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]] has anything to do with him. His [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|edits]] consisted of a spree of obscene, offensive page moves roughly 5 hrs before Jibney's first edits. Timmy/Jibney's style tends to be at worst nonsensical or puerile and involve heavy AOLspeak. Jibney was created 5 hrs too late to give him an alibi, but I really don't think it's him. If I'm right, it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to make bad edits appear as his; the "Heh heh..." section of his talk page linked above seems to involve some such occurrence on fanstuff. Additionally, both here and on fanstuff, occasional runs of brazenly vandalistic and heavily misspelled edits have been made (e.g. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=185999], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186003], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186005], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186011]), which he has subsequently [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:66.169.119.137&diff=prev&oldid=186037 explained] as his little sister gaining access to his computer. Although Thatkidsam doubts his veracity rather sneeringly, compare the semiliterate raving of those edits to his explanation; although uncap.d, etc, it shows a different style. And the edit 2.5 hrs [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:boring_%28really%29&diff=prev&oldid=185897 before] the suspicious ones was even more prosaic. Bottom line: the guy makes things hard on himself through AOLspeak and impulsive editting that seems to make more sense to himself than to others, but I see in his saner edits the desire (or at least potential) to be a constructive member of the the wiki, and I'd prefer not to oppose that desire in anyone as long as it remains at the forefront. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow! That is the most thorough analysis of a user I have '''ever''' seen! I didn't even know how many colons to use to indent this thing! Oh yeah I should reply to this too shouldn't I? Well basically you've summed up Jibney's mystery into ... another mystery! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome template ==

Quick question: When I use '''<nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''' to greet new users, where does the template come from? Did the change you made to your Welcome template (with the Tour) also affect that tag? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. What you're using is [[Template:welcome]]; I took that and made a personalized version which I keep at [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome]], and that's what I editted. You can do the same if you want; you'd use the same code to implement it, but substitute its location for the word "welcome" (e.g. I type <nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if you think the tour should be added to the main welcome template itself, you could just add it there. If you decide to do that, however, it might be a good idea to announce your intentions on [[Template talk:welcome]] first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think it should be incorporated into [[HRWiki:Introduction]] first, and then the Introduction should be linked in the welcome template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==HTML Romanian codes==
For my own reference, and the curiosity of anyone who happens by, how to create some of the characters in the Romanian alphabet:
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! Upper case
! Lower case
! Upper case encoding
! Lower case encoding
! Notes
|-
| Ă
| ă
| &#258;
| &#259;
|  
|-
| Â
| â
| &#194;
| &#226;
|  
|-
| Î
| î
| &#206;
| &#238;
|  
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ș}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ș}}
| &#536;
| &#537;
| s with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ş
| ş
| &#350;
| &#351;
| s with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ț}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ț}}
| &#538;
| &#539;
| t with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ţ
| ţ
| &#354;
| &#355;
| t with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|}

Are you romanian Abdi? (Or of romanian descent?) My old roommate is Romanian. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope; no connection except that I went there two summers in a row with teams from my church. I tried to pick up a little language, but really had only an ornamental vocabulary (enough to say something in Romanian just so I'd be saying something in Romanian). I got myself into '''BIG''' trouble, evidently, when I tried to order a lemon Fanta (they have different flavors over there, many of which are awesome), and mispronounced the word for lemon. My hosts' eyes got ''really'' big and they turned bright red; when they regained the power of speech all they could manage was "Don't... ever... say that again...." Me: "Why, what? What did I say?" Them: "You... ''{pause}'' you don't want to know." To this day I don't know what word that sounded like!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol! Well if you transliterate (is that a word) what you wrote perhaps I can ask my old roommate this weekend. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The word was (and here I get a chance to use some of those characters above) "lămâjie"; that "a" with a circumflex, as I understood it, was supposed to be something like the "oo" of "wood" but closer to the "ou" of "would," a hint of the "oo" of "boot" creeping in. I way over-emphasized the latter, and then gave the final "e" too much of a Spanish "ey" sound—"luhmooyay." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL i'll see what I can do... I think I have enough to explain to him the word ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::So where your hosts like really mad or were they cracking up? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Either cracking up or kind of embarrassed or both, depending on their personality. (These were teenagers; the 15-yr-old guy thought it was the funniest event of the 21st century, though even he demurred to tell me what it meant; the shy girl looked like she thought it was funny and felt guilty for thinking so.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Not that this really relates to Romanian, although it does relate to language mix-ups and the current season: My favorite mistake in a German essay by an American student was "An Thanksgiving esse ich die Türkei", which means, "On Thanksgiving I eat Turkey" (i.e., the ''country'' of Turkey!) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL; I'm ''sure'' he tries. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ohhh it's possibly slang then. My old roommate moved from there when he was 8 and i don't know if he knows all the slang. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== A wery new electronic reply! ==

'''For Sir Viklas. Hi?'''

'''1. Prehaps! I'm've was to make football often times. Play? Know. Best football results twice again.'''

'''2. Every age I have seen out as a baby. I think I has the solution: width times height.'''

'''3. As a wery old, I can fathom the scene to be with me. Looking always as I ever did. It was not came's. He borrowed mine.'''

'''Okay, Viklas, one would certainly wish that would answer your questions. I do believe that we're on the same page. Unfortunately, yours has a large F on it.'''

'''— Sir Stark Dålig '''

==Marching Bands (not of Manhattan)==

I said "marching bands". Most schools near me have bands, but none I know have marching bands. I live in the same city as TBC. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's reassuring. And frankly, I'd rather they had a sit-down-an'-play-music band than a put-on-a-purple-thing-and-dance-around band. (Or better yet, how about Strings and Choral programs?) But seriously, I'd be very surprised if a city the size of Atlanta didn't have a fair number of HS marching bands. In fact, a cursory Googling reveals that [http://www.marching-band.net/news/ "The Official" Metro Atlanta Battle of the Bands] on Oct. 14, 2004 included bands from the following schools:
::Southwest DeKalb
::Morrow
::Redan
::Westlake
::Columbia
::Towers
::Mays
::Stephenson
::Martin Luther King
::Pebble Brook
::Cedar Grove
::Riverdale
::Lithonia
:However, cross-checking against the [http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/our_schools/schools_list/school_list1.html#high list of Atlanta public high schools] shows only Mays. What's the deal—the others are suburban schools with nice budgets? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woah, there's a actully a real school called Riverdale high? In those old Archie comics he's in riverdale high school, for those of you who don't know. That's awsome! {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 00:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC) PS: For some reason my sig isn't working on this page. Or my new x-mas themed one. Whats happening?
:::Man. Now [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=205706 my] User page is haunted! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Weird, man. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, problem fixed! Curse lifted :p. Binary Searches sure come in handy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::That Stux is a computer genius man! (Let's do a dance for the computer genius man.) Btw (not in the tone of trauma that would continue the quote), what did you do? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well it didn't involve shotguns that's for sure... If you check out this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=prev&oldid=206819 diff] you'll see that there were a few template inclusions that were not closed, making everything be template text. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Dances for the computer genius man* doo-doo! doo-doo! Thank you stux! you rule! Doo-doo!{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lovett and Westminster aren't on there because they're private schools. Fancy-shemancy. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I once again come to you asking for a favor! '''Stop'''

Might I trouble you for a photograph? '''Stop'''

Because you are being inducted into my honorary members gang! '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

'''PS: If possible, please make it a B/W photo. My telegramophone doesn't seem to handle the colored genre oh too well. Regards!'''

:I'd rather not use my real picture, for the same reason that I'd rather not use my real name. Also, I'm not actually Swedish (see [[#Sweden??|conversation above]]). But since I impersonated a Swedish prince on your talk page, I find it only fitting to use an [[Wikipedia:Image:Ducele_de_Halland.jpg|image of one]] to represent me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::I bet you are a hit with the ladies Mr. Swedish Prince. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Woah, that picture totally looks like me! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== GVBAoA ==

[[Image:Pewtervanburen.PNG|right|Pretend its golden, since I'm already pushing the one-personal-image rule.]]
Abdi, you've just earned yourself the '''GVBAoA''': 
'''G'''old 
'''V'''an 
'''B'''uren 
'''A'''award 
'''o'''f 
'''A'''wesomeness 
for helping me get off the ground when I was a newbie, and for being an all around nice person. There are only five in the entire world! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Whoa!! What an honor! I have so many people to thank—I'd like to thank the academy; I'd like to thank The Cheat, for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
==The "Yet another award" award==
:Just kiddin. It's the '''thank you award'''. I present this thank you award to AbdiViklas, <s>Pretty weird person</s> Swedish Prince, for giving me an awesome trophy and for just being cool.
So here you go! Thanks!
:{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC) [[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|Thank You Award givin to '''AbdiViklas''']]
::Presenting: the '''"No, thank ''you''!" award'''! For being an expert trophy-giver and encourager. People who affirm good stuff in others are themselves ''good stuff''. G-E-W-D.
::On an unrelated note: when I hear "Swedish Prince" I can't help imagining a [[Wikipedia:Prince (artist)|guy in a purple suit]] trying to look sultry but failing because his [[Wikipedia:Swedish Chef|eyebrows and mustache entirely obscure his face]]. [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u2/141603.html Oh-oh-oh, the Swedish thing]... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== "wiki is gay"? ==

I'm sorry, I need to ask this question in order to see if this was just an inane dream or a reality - did Homestarrunner.com temporarily put up a message in their updates section (top-right corner of the main pages) saying that "The HRWiki is gay"? Thanks, this is killing me... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 13:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Interesting. No, we don't have any record of that happening. Who did you hear that one from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::TBC like us. We're cool. Most of us seem to like members of the opposite gender...so there. **sticks out tongue and gives a rasbery** {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that sounds something more like what Matt Wilson would do... He doesn't like his cartoon's wiki much, and has put things like "the wiki is creepy" in the credits occasionally, and even openly mocked them with a "Bonus Stage Wiki Guy" character in a recent toon. But the Brothers Chaps love us. They sent Joey sketches and stuff. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Who's Matt Wilson, and what cartoon does he make? He sounds like a not-so-nice person. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Matt Wilson writes the [[Wikipedia:Bonus Stage|Bonus Stage]] webtoons. He doesn't think much of his fans, I think, the wiki in particular. But the cartoons rock. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Like I said, I think I was — literally — dreaming. I was up really late last night. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::...which reminds me that I really spend too much time on the computer. Dreaming about the internet, wow... :/ {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL—yes, that is a warning sign. (I can just imagine Gafaddict doing couch mumbling: "Mbl... hammminbble... Edit conflict...".) Seriously, not only do TBC like the wiki, their record is notably free from the use of "gay" as a generic negative. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, me i've be doing great, can i ask you some questions:

1.whats your favourite toon?

2.whats your favourite character?

3.how did you find Homestar runner?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Two of those are tough. (One's easy; the answer to #3 is on [[User:AbdiViklas#Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction|my user page]].) For favorite 'toon, I'll have to limit it to sbemails to make it easier. In that case, the three that I ''enjoy'' the most are [[funny]], [[caffeine]], and [[your friends]]. I can't decide exactly what the order should be. I feel a little guiltily lowbrow for enjoying so much the ones that are just straight-up, slapstick, audiovisual gags; I ''appreciate'' the ones that are "clever" too, but I can't help just laughing at loud at these.
:For favorite character: also tough. Of course I like 'em all, for the appropriate reasons. (Strong Bad because he's... Strong Bad; Strong Sad for his good taste in literature, music, art, and intellectual culture; Homestar for his heartwarming naïveté; etc.) If I have to pick a major character, I'll go with The Cheat; I just bought one of the The Cheat t-shirts while they were on sale, and it's the first t-shirt I've bought. But if we're including minor characters, I think What's Her Face is pretty cool, as I once [[Talk:What's Her Face|observed]] in a characteristically wordy post. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[Talk:What%27s_Her_Face#From_the_Paper_.22Teen_Girl_Squad:_Class_Stratification_and_the_Role_of_Otherness_Within_A_Multi-teen_Peer_Group_Dynamic.22|''No wonder'']] you didn't post the entire link that discussion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That and the fact that my comment was in response to some above that heading. (By the way, that heading was [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]]'s doing; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=151263&oldid=151256 originally] I hadn't started a new section.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=next&oldid=151263 see].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

== Louisiana residents ==

AbdiViklas: I noticed that you reverted my edit on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/weird dream#Louisiana lingerie?|this page]], which was a removal of the phrase "it could even be a jab at the relative intelligence of Louisiana residents." Let me make the case for my removal, and then I'll let you do with that information as you see fit.

I'm not aware of a stereotype that Louisiana residents are unintelligent. I ''am'' aware of a false stereotype that people living in the South are "slow." I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. In this case, I have little confidence that TBC would propogate this bias--they are from Georgia, about as South as you can get. (I also have difficulty seeing the connection between askew undergarments and intelligence, although one could argue this point.)

So, I removed your comment because I saw no need to perpetuate an insulting stereotype, especially one which residents of Georgia would be unlikely to defend. I trust that you'll take these comments as what they're intended to be--an explanation of my position--and not a personal attack. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your tact! I live in NC myself, so I certainly don't subscribe to the "dumb Southerner" concept (and am concerned about research showing employer bias against Southern accents!). I offerred the comment as illustration that the Easter egg could have meant something other Mardi Gras. In fact, my first thought when watching it, since I didn't make the Mardi Gras connection, was "Ha ha, that one couldn't even figure out how to put it on!" True, Louisiana isn't the butt of such jokes so much as Arkansas; it was jokes like the [http://www.joke-archives.com/youmaybe/arkansasreadingtest.html Arkansas reading test] that I was thinking of. (And I've heard that one ''from'' Southerners, in NC!) I'm not so sure TBC have qualms about perpetuating insulting stereotypes, either; I find it hard to watch Li'l Brudder in light of the physically impaired. (But yes, to their credit, they steer mostly clear of shock humor and using touchy subjects for cheap laughs.)
:As for removing the comment, I just reverted because I thought it was generally frowned upon to edit other people's comments in STUFF or talk pages. (I mean, I once deleted one when someone used a homosexual slur, but for anything less extreme I try to let it stand.) In light of your argument that acknowledging a harmful stereotype reinforces it, though, you can consider it ''my'' deletion!
:Thanks for responding in such a diplomatic and well-explained way! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, thanks for the cheerful reply; I probably made a mountain out of a molehill anyway (it's only a STUFF page, after all). I'll keep your comments in mind before editing arguments in the future. Have a great week, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== greetings from Nikolce Kocovski (plus homeschooling) ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing fantastic. anyway onto business:
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you ever had a bulling problem in school?
#what have been up to recently?
yours truly [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey Nik!
:#I think I'd noticed [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] a couple of times on recent changes, but I hadn't looked up his user page until you asked. I wonder how his Elvis impersonation is? I hope it's better than the one on [http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/01-1.html this] page (see the entry for Jan. 8)!
:#I was [[Wikipedia:Homeschooling|homeschooled]] from 2nd grade through high school, so I certainly didn't have as many problems with bullying as most students, but even so I had some. Interestingly, one of the guys who used to tease me in really painful ways eventually (like within the same year) realized that he really was hurting me, apologized, and started being nicer. I think he wasn't really so much a true bully; he just thought he was being funny (while I didn't). These days, as a teacher, I'm more concerned with trying to prevent bullying for my students. It's really a serious problem; in the U.S. 75% report being bullied at some point, which means not only are they being denied a fundamental human right, but their education and development are being affected. I'm not sure how much I can do as a teacher to really change bullying, but I intend at least not to be unaware of it or (worse) ignore it.
:#Recently I've been doing a bunch of homework for finals in my university courses. Also I've been visiting a high school where I've been practicing conducting the orchestra in [[Wikipedia:Arcangelo Corelli|Corelli]]'s ''Christmas Concerto'', which has been a lot of fun. Conducting Baroque music has an effect on me sort of like "runner's high"; by the end of the rehearsal I'm a little giddy. Their concert is Tuesday. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I had no idea you were once a homeschooler! So was I from K-12. I'm still very glad of it and quite appreciative of the sacrifices my dear mother made to teach me (especially since I was sometimes grotesquely lazy). Anyway, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup. From about halfway through 2nd grade, when my Mom pulled me out because I was having serious problems. I was ADD (not hyperactive) before it had really become well-known, and my teacher couldn't understand why I wasn't getting my worksheets ''{sneer expressing intense teacherly contempt for worksheets}'' done without supervision. Plus I was a real troublemaker, having problems "keeping my hands to myself" (less from agression than from a confusion about the fact that tripping others or swinging my lunchbox into them was not as funny for them as for me). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Not that it's much to add, but my ex was homeschooled. I think kids can benefit more through homeschooling. If I have kids, I'd like them to be homeschool as much as possible too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Let me hasten to say that, as somebody about to be employed by it, I'm definitely not anti-public-education-system. The pros and cons of homeschooling versus public would have to do largely with what you felt the purpose of school was. If you adhered to a very traditional understanding of education in which "knowledge" meant a canon of factual information to be "uploaded" from written curricula and direct instruction into students' minds—in which "school" was primarily about the stuff it seems, on the surface, to be about (Reading 'n' Riting 'n' 'Rithmetic, etc.)—then yeah, that can be more efficiently accomplished through 1-on-1 instruction. But if you define "knowledge" as socially created, i.e. understanding is best achieved by experiencing something rather than hearing about it, and the transfer of experiential understandings through group work is not simply a side effect of schooling but an asset; if you think that what school is there to provide is not simply the official curriculum but the hidden curricula of social interaction and societal structures, and especially if you place a priority on exposing your child to other socioeconomic groups and cultures, then public school becomes desirable. (Although, contrary to popular opinion, homeschooling isn't typically insular; I had just as much contact with peers via co-opped classes and extracurricular clubs as most public schoolers. It would still be possible to achieve all the benefits above, though in my experience you might have to look outside the homeschooling community for meaningful interaction with other cultures.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:I seem to be a bit late to this conversation, but I just figured I'd also meantion I was homeschooled from grade 2 onward as well. I switched when we moved way up country to Quesnel, and when we moved back south I never went back. I liked it, especially since it's so flexible. A bit ''too'' flexible sometimes too, it is somewhat dificult to stay on schedule. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

::I too, am late in responding, but I will anyway. Yes, I, too, occasionally found it too flexible. My mother can tell many a story of my dreadful procrastination. It still bites me occasionally, but I think I've mostly outgrown that bad habit now. (Of course, finding the Wiki has done nothing to improve my habits in that area...) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, hehe. Perhaps my earlier Wikiing is partly responsible for the remarkable intensity of my finals-period workload, which is why I haven't been on her much in a couple of weeks. Anydangways... I'm back! Missed y'all. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I am updating my Honorary Gang Members electronic page and I need the following information. '''Stop'''

What rank would you consider yourself in my gang? '''Stop'''

For example, I am the '''"Brains"'''. '''Stop'''

The Sneak is '''"The Thief"'''. '''Stop'''

And The Strong Man is '''"The Brawn"'''. '''Stop'''

Please try not to use any of those ranks. '''Stop'''

Please respond on my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:Gee, I'm not sure, S.S. Bad. I think I need to rewatch Ocean's 11 for ideas. I'll get back to you, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Official "You're Back!" Greetings ==

Hey, what can we say but that we missed you? I constantly kept thinking "Gee, where's Abdi and his amazing replies an' such?" I even tried to fill your niche whilst you were gone (check my contributions. There's at least one marked "An Abdi-worthy reply"), but to no avail. So now we won't be too bored, with so many other people leaving the wiki for the hols. Glad to have ya back, Abdi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:<s>Oh? You were gone?</s> Er... I mean... glad to have you back too! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I noticed you'd been a bit scarce around here. I figured it was school-related. I've been done for over a week now. I'm in Oregon visiting family and friends for Christmas, but I'm still definitely present on the Wiki. So don't worry, either you or DorianGray, I'll be there like shareware. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Glad to have you back, man! And I also rememebred you. See my reply over [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17#Is_it_cardboard.2C_or_is_it_feedback.3F|TB's talk]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
You guys are so nice! So—yeah... guess that was kind of a false alarm, what with not visiting for another week. As you guessed, H.L., my absence up until about the 22nd was school-related, but absence since then was spending-Christmas-with-the-family-related. To be more specific, sitting-around-in-pajamas-eating-chocolate-and-drinking-hot-cider-and-egg-nog-alternately-for-three-days-straight-related. We punctuated the festive lethargy with trips to Narnia and King Kong, which were both just great, in their (very different) ways. Next up: Pride & Prejudice (yes, there ''are'' men who dig it), Harry Potter, The Producers, maybe some Memoirs of a Geisha, and all those things from a while ago like Crash or Zorro that I haven't seen yet. Whew! The worload!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic crisis! ==

Dear, Sir Viklas '''Stop'''

I apologize for being absent for a while. '''Stop'''

The Decemberween season keeps me busy even in the past! '''Stop'''

It is a delight to recollect with the gang during this glorious season! '''Stop'''

However our joyous gatherings may have to end shortly. '''Stop'''

For a complaint has been presented to my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Please refer to my talk page and view the complaint from Sir Dot Com. '''Stop'''

If you all agree to the idea he has proposed then the gang may live for another day! '''Stop'''

I thank you all in the most gracious manner and bid you a very merry Decemberween season! '''Stop'''

Sincerely,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:See [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images]] for more info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing great. i just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thank you for your kind messages, you've helped me quite a bit. We friends right?

merry christmas [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:04, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:Course we friends, foo! You're my only Macedonian Aussie friend; those are hard to come by! Seriously, I'm really happy that you've stayed involved in the wiki, and I admire the fact that you keep asking about things and improving your wiki skills. Thanks for saying hi for the holidays; it's a little late to return the Merry Christmas, but I hope you have a great New Year's! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Happy new year ==

Happy new year and a enjoyable year for you, see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings from M.J ==
Uh, Hi, you may not remember me but I was a long term member of the hrwiki and then got locked out with the changing of sites and re-registering and the no-annonymous-users-can-edit situation.
''{takes breath}'' anyhoo I'm back and I wanted to thank you for your support, I was going to give up on the hrwiki and never return until I got your message on my livejournal account a while back urging me to keep battling on. So Thanks! I'll show myself out -[[User:MJ|MJ]]

== thanks, abdi ==
thanks for reducing the exc. points on my guestbook. ciberdude also seems to have accidently added four 4's instead of three on his signature. that man does not know what he is doing. just like you did to me, i hope we can somehow teach him to be more familiar with the wiki. thanks to you, i'm joining the welcoming commitee. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::''{note: This edit and its reply were made after the entries below them}'' for the record i '''do''' know what i am doing. i used to be a nerd, fixing trolling, reverting stupid ideas, but then when i tried to add to the [[www.hrwiki.org|wiki]] i kept getting reverted on all the references and goofs. so i thought that the wiki must not like too streached references and i started deleting stuff but that went down hill when thise edit got reverted so i realized that all of you are exactally the kind of person [[Strong Bad|SB]] would hate. so i decided to troll and troll and troll and troll and troll [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Wow. Um, I assume you changed your mind again. But yeah, the experience you mentioned (getting reverted at first) is so common I put some stuff into my [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome|welcome template]] about it. It's tough, because everybody makes an attachment, however little, between their edits and themselves; praise for their edits is praise for them and an abrupt and ignominious death for their edits is felt personally too. And yeah, you woudn't be the first who's responded to that injury by trolling. But as I'm sure you've experienced, all that reverting at the beginning is really just the result of the wiki learning curve; like people make edits that don't match the standards or that say something that was already said elsewhere. So anyway, I hope you're finding it a little less frustrating now being "the kind of person SB would hate." (Actually, seriously, I don't think he would; he's a pretty big grammar nerd himself. But yes, the kind of personality that makes the wiki work is closer to Adrian Monk's [[Wikipedia:Obsessive-compulsive disorder|OCD]] than Strong Bad's "whatever"-ness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:''{responding to Seriously again}'' Don't mention it. And thanks for your response patching things up with Ciberdude (though I took the liberty of moving it from ''User talk:Ciberdude'' to [[User talk:Ciberdude444]]). There are some unfortunate examples on the wiki of users who are still pissed at each other and seriously make life rough; there are also ''daily'' examples of people who might have reason to be offended with each other shrugging it off and being generous about it. I encourage you to keep doing that—and not just making it so relationships with other users are "okay," but actually actively trying to improve them (i.e. calling them on it when they make a really good edit, or just making them feel good in whatever way you can). It's not just some Hallmark-Care-Bears conspiracy to make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy; it actually makes for a better website (and ultimately better people in real life!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. In other words, easy with comments like "doesn't know what he is doing." Yeah, literally, we're all learning more about how this wiki thing works every day (like just a minute ago I learned how to resize an image!). But be careful not to be insulting. (Also, I don't think there's any clue about Ciberdude's gender; assuming all online types are male can be dangerous!) Unrelatedly, cool that you're joining the welcoming committee! It's a great feeling when you get to welcome someone (though you have to have a fast trigger finger around here; the past few days I've seen, like, six new users get welcomed by other folks before I had a chance!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

nice. real nice. "quick! the carebears are coming! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
anyway, i don't even know your gender, so i can't say anyting. i'm pretty sure thunderbird is a guy, but i'll have to look into it. i'm guessing......your......a......guy? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. (Come to think of it, I guess my user page, while it tells ''everything'' else about me, doesn't mention that!) I was thinking of users like [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] who often get assumed to be guys. (And Soylent Green is a hilarious movie.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

true dat. in fact, double true.
if you know what snl skit double true is from, you get a gold star. hint: it's new. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ironically, although I ''know'' about the Chroni(what?)cles of Narnia, I haven't seen it yet. (The rap, I mean; the movie was great.) I'm-a go see if I can hunt down a copy hosted by a site my filter won't block. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
youtube.com
:Yeah, that didn't work for me, but I found one that did. Dang; now I want a cupcake! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
two. no six. no twelve. BAKER'S DOZEN!!

dude, is that not the funniest thing you have ever seen? i watch it all the time. in fact, i'ma go watch it right now. see ya. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 22:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, that was up there with the Cowbell. I think the NY Times (or was it Slate?) was right; what makes it funny isn't just that their whiteness but the extraordinary harmlessness and yuppiness of their subject matter. I'm reminded of Weird Al's ''It's All About the Pentiums''. ("I'm the king of the spreadsheets / got 'em printed out all over my bedsheets...") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

due, seriously. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==ciberdude444's at it ==
abdi, ciberdude444 has once again reverted my comment on the guestbook. i said it was okay, but i didn't think it would be like this. i don't want to edit something on his userpage, and i doubt he will listen to me. i will try anyway, but i need your help.
:Meh; it doesn't seem to me like it matters a ton either way. The question is who gets "custody"; whether you can't edit because it's his userpage or he can't edit because it's your comment. There's no official rule about it, but it seems like nobody should have to live with stuff on their userpage they don't want, or with their edits misrepresented. I think I'll revert it to your signature alone, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a really big deal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, ab! abdi! abdivi! abdiviklas! yeah, i just don't like that stuff. it's a tender relationship, we don't him to put stuff that i would assume offensive and start another argument. i just want to take things carefully. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::who needs grammar lessons now? "we don't him to put stuff " whats that suposed to mean?
:Cool. Also, with regard to the age thing, maybe the best thing you could do would be to take your real name off your page. Zillions of people could be your age, but you'd be ''amazed'' how easy it is to trace a person from their name. (In my city, at least, if you've ever voted, the info on how you're registered and your voting history, plus address, is right there on the web for free!) I've got my age on mine but don't give out my name or anything else very personally identifiable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== what do you like mostly about homestar runner? ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been i've been doing great, the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Man... actually, that's a really tough one to answer. Why ''do'' we—or I, at least—like H*R so much? I think it has a lot to do with the form it's in—relatively short cartoons updated roughly weekly for free, and all accessible at any time. I mean, let's face it; it has nowhere near the same number of laughs-per-week as, say, Simpsons or Futurama, but if H*R were on TV it would mean it would come in 30' chunks instead of 6' max, and (Tivo aside) you could only get to it at specific times, one 'toon at a time. The best time of my life was when I was watching the Strong Bad Emails for the first time, and was spending days at a time just watching them back-to-back chronologically; I think they're actually funnier that way.
:But I haven't ''really'' answered your question. What ''element'' of H*R do I like best? Well... I dunno. Do I like the randomness of its humor, or its relevence (via the "pop culture, mumble grumble" references)? Do I appreciate more its PG rating or the frequent ways it pushes that envelope (which, frankly, are funnier because they're so unexpected than the reliable shock-humor of Family Guy and related shows)? Do I enjoy Strong Bad's wittiness or Homestar's naivete (or Marzipan's activism or Strong Sad's misunderstood artistic sensibilities)? Can't say. I guess it's '''D''', all of the above!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

i kinda agree with you, the reason i like homestar runner the best on the internet, for its humour, the way it uses pop culture like simpsons a bit, and the characters. but the reason why i like it is:'

because it acts like a cartoon. i'll explain:

you see most of the things you find on the internet are either horrible violent with lots of swearing or lots of adult content. but homestar runner is nothing like it. Do you understand?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ps: i do aslo enjoy sb emails long or short toons, the characters etc.

==welcoming==
can i join the welcoming comitte? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 17:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sure! Check out [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]]; it's got all the details on how to do so. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, that kind of proves my point. ==

''"sorry, rv; "hypocrisy" seems to me to have inaccurate connotations. He doesn't *give* a darn, really, whether "jillion" is a real word."''

The fact that he doesn't give a darn is kind of the point. He holds everyone else up to quite lofty standards of perfect spelling and grammar but doesn't do the same. That is the definition of hypocrisy and being a hypocrit. "Do as I say and not as I do." -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see what you mean. But see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Strong_Bad&curid=818&diff=230061&oldid=230056&rcid=174751 reply just now] on [[Talk:Strong Bad]], disagreeing somewhat with that definition of hypocrisy. The definition you offer is certainly a common one, but I feel it's a misuse of the word. "Inconsistency" might be better. I also reverted partly because I just felt like, by itself, it wasn't that remarkable; now, if a page gets made, that would be a reason to have a remark saying something like "this is another instance of '''Strong Bad's Usage Errors'''" or the like. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== An electronic GIF! ==

Dear Sir Viklas, '''Stop'''

Please view the brand new symbol-ma-drawin' I have crafted on my electronic user page! '''Stop'''

Has fun! '''Stop'''

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== Manual of Style ==

Actually, I ''just'' added that rule (and it was because I saw the stripèd discussion, though I'd been considering it for a while), but it actually works in your favor if you count the fact that (a sentence prior) Strong Bad actually ''did'' write "striped" while pronouncing it "stripèd". Thus, this one can go either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the Appetizers/Appe-teasers example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that was actually a bad example (as "Appe'teasers'" is written in the 'toon in question in an Easter Egg, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].) But, if we were to assume that nothing was written, then you'd still want to write "Appe-teasers" because that's what was said. There are better examples out there, though... most of what Coach Z says, for instance. That was just the first thing to cross my mind. This has been the unofficial consensus for a while, actually; I was just trying to make it official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. We've got a lot of back-revising to do on it, then. But maybe before we do, at least with regard to the aspiration-of-"-ed"-suffixes issue, see my hesitance I just added to [[Talk:highschool#Accent on striped]]. I agree that using the diacritical is preferable to "stripe-ed", but—I can't get over it's funnylookiness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::One more question: What's an example of a mispronounced word where the phonetic spelling is identical to the standard spelling? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just thinking hypothetically, maybe something like pronouncing "bomb" with the final ''b'' aspirated, but not enough to transcribe as "bombuh". You'd have to add a note. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Colonel" is a good one. Currently, it's written as such on every relevant page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, now I understand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Sorry. You must be talking about my first upload. Right after I saw it had no copright notice, I went to fix it. I did so for the other 3. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:Also, will you check to see if this is ok? [[Characters#Other_Alternates]]. The teen versions. Thanks. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Looks okay to me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Edit conflicts ==

Hey there, Dr. AdbiViklas. I'm totally cool with you giving 24.239.109.228 [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:24.239.109.228&diff=prev&oldid=239289 extra instruction], but I just want to point out that noting an edit conflict is completely unnecessary in this case. In fact, most times, noting edit conflicts are unnecessary. Crapfully crap, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; I know that the general rule is "if your comment would still make sense in the flow of the page don't note it"; in this case I did note it because otherwise there wasn't much explanation for my commenting at all! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it looks unprofessional to have a note up there. You can easily reword the message and have it flow. I would agree with it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::That makes sense; I did so and also added a bit about the turn he took. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Heh. You're awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::LOL; on the wiki I seem to be permanently in schoolteacher mode, in which first-time vandals are suspendees and potential dropouts. (The alarming thing that just kind of clicked for me recently is that these users ''are'' in fact real people, and their interaction with this wiki is a window of opportunity to teach them about how to interract with others. (Yes yes, and about H*R!) That's why, although the squabbles and typos of middle-school users take up time and energy, I'm glad we have them. The whole Seriously/Totebag/Ciberdude deal is a chance for three guys either to learn that nothing's fair, no one in authority cares, and name-calling and petty revenge get results, or to learn that co-operation and community are more than smarmy buzzwords and are actually realisable and effective. Then, realizing that two of those go to the same school: what could be the exponential impact of two kids who actually believed that?) So even though chances are good he'll never come back, and even though it was kind of silly of me to do so, that's why I left that for him; I daydream that maybe he's at a formative moment in his life and the wiki could tip the balance between a life of crime and a career as a school counselor or a Doctor Without Borders or some such. It sounds cheesy, but... maybe it's not too great an exaggeration! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I just read all of that. I should print that out and save it for posterity. ''print_of_it.exe''. I don't find it silly. That's the perfect way you should treat someone like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, I added another note on the the IP user talk page noting that the article talk page (rather than STUFF) would be the best place to discuss the change he wanted to make. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::P.S. I was edit-conflicted on this edit. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::::LOL; thanks both of you. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Incidentally, what do you mean "three guys [are] either to learn that nothing's fair [and that] no one in authority cares"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think anyone's going to learn that around here! I just mean that's the burden of responsibility on us. If this place had the atmosphere that a lot of fansites and online communities in general did... well, events wouldn't have played out the way they ''did''. I leave it to your imaginations to conjecture what would have happened (hint: the ''Lord of the Flies'' allusion might not be too far off!). And from a teacher point of view, that ''is'' a lesson kids get in school far too often ("nobody cares", plus they have no agency so why bother). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I ask because my goal as an admin is to always be fair. I sincerely hope that I am not playing favorites with any one of them, instead treating them based on their actions and by the way they respond to instructions. So long as they stop squabbling, I'm willing to leave the past in the past, but if they insist on bickering, a certain train is going to be dropped. I like to think I have a good bit of patience, but I admit it's wearing quite thin. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's dot com, you ''define'' fair administration!! Yeah, of course any of the involved parties would bring that accusation (which is explained partly by adolescent developmental psych, a time when you're trying to figure out exactly what your standing in relation to others is), but I'm a witness on this one at least. As far as patience goes, that's one thing that makes me think I might make a good teacher, since I seem to have an unusually high frustration threshhold. But even I've reached it a couple of times just in the past few months of rehearsing unruly orchestras! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== im back! ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i;ve been doing great becasue i was on a 10 day holiday to the gold coast with my family. on the 5/1/06. fantastic. so whats been going on, with you?

Ps:WHats happended to bubsty, when i checked bubsty's user page, all that was written was bye wiki, whats happened?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right—very sad: evidently he's had to quit the wiki for some reason. See his talk page for many expressions of grief at his leaving, several quite eloquent. (I know you ''have'' seen it because you signed it, but I mean higher up.)
:I'm glad you had a nice vacation; it's summer for you, right? I'm in North Carolina, which is kinda southern US, and we've been having a really warm January anyway; last week it was 68° (Farenheit). But tonight it's back below freezing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== looking for an explanation ==

Why did you add the definition for decoupage to "Death Metal"'s "Explanation" section? I realize it starts with "de" and has something to do with glue. Those do not seem like enough to bother including the word in the email's wiki page.
--[[User:209.157.156.126|209.157.156.126]] 10:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; not just those, but because of Taranchula's video (some helpful anonymous IP has just now added the lyrics), ''The Decoupage''. Yeah, if it weren't for that, it would be a seriously unnecessary fact! (By the way, speaking of helpful anonymous IPs, your interest in the accuracy of the article and the fact that you knew and bothered to sign your post are a little unusual in anonymous users; have you ever considered [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|becoming a member]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey sir ==

Thanks about the poster thing. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fractured discussion ==

Hey there. One of the problems with such a multifaceted discussion is that the replies can get a little (or a lot) scattered. So I just wanted to let you know that I have replied to no fewer times than to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Other|your proposal]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Move_existing_ones_to_subpages_and_lock_them|your question here]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Comments|your comments here]], and also [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Oppose|that big long thread]] with Darth Katana X. I would read them all first before replying, as they kinda form one big thought. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

==''thanks, abdi'' 2: Son of ''[[#thanks, abdi|thanks, abdi]]''==
well, thanks to you and dot com, i now have a username. thanks a lot, i will join a lot of commitees. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

by the way, when i was an anonymous user, you said something about how if i am who you think i am, it's important that i take the plunge. i have a brother who is a wiki user, but i am on my own laptop, so it's not like you could match the ip addresses if you thought i was him. so........just who do you think i am? [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:The combination of the fact that you commented on [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]'s talk page and mentioned that someone you knew got blocked suggested that you might know either him or a couple of other users that he had some interaction with. Plus you now say on your user page that he's your brother. If I'm not mistaken, your brother's blockedness is up today or tomorrow; a couple of edits you made to his user page got reverted because we don't really let people (even siblings) edit each others' pages, but he can do them himself then. If he doesn't, bug him to; we have quite a few users who started out getting temporarily blocked and ended up as major contributors (I seem to remember there's some sysop with that story, though I can't find who it is at the moment). I hope your brother and another user who got blocked at the same time do exactly that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is the name you're looking for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks; that was my hunch, but I couldn't verify it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::yeah, now i am unblocked, and i feel great about it. by the way, no, i didn't tell him to do those edits (although he said i did) and he really won't be on that much anymore. this website is too cool for him. plus, he said he just wanted to try it out, y'know? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

wait, why did you change the headline to a familiar joke that's on the tip of my tongue? well, you are a teacher, and i am a caps-hating 11 year old with poor grammar (but good spelling!), so you would know it better than i would. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=246006&oldid=246003 LOL]! Perhaps this might be a sign of archival necessities. Even I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=prev&oldid=218187 have been asked] to archive... and you're at 70! :) Welcome to the wiki [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] and [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]!! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yeltensic&diff=246355&oldid=246350 seriously].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you, stux, but i have been on the wiki since nov. 8. and thank you for the backup on that comment. i just think it should be reworded. also, sice the guestbooks are going soon, please sign mine. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

oh, wait. you already have. thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Lol. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::yeah, if ever evidence that i was an idiot, that was it. ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad you're back, Will; I meant what I said above (and mean it for Ciberdude as well). In answer to your question, I realized that the section heading your brother used originally was the exact same you had used higher on the page, and it confused the browser when it tried to jump to the section. I'm not sure what exactly I'm referencing with the "Son of", other than the stereotypical 30s-monster-movie sequels that get referenced all the time (''Son of Dracula! · Bride of Frankenstein! · Second Cousin Once Removed of Wolfman!''). At least I didn't say ''Electric Boogaloo''. And as for archiving, Stux, despite the recent caving of a prominent holdout, I'm being obstinate. I don't see a particular need to yet, especially since I just recently discovered that ctrl+home and ctrl+end jump to the top or bottom of a page instantly! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I hate to break it to you (ok not really) but lemme tell you a little secret... for web pages, Home and End works just as well! ;) Well, the ball is rollin', I'm sure that circumstances (and pressures ;)) will chage... :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== (Not so) random encouragement for your recent efforts ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've been incredibly busy (like to the point of consecutive all-nighters) for the past week, so I just dropped in and don't know how much I might have missed (though I'm piecing together a picture that involves iPods, sockpuppets, Animal Crossing, and the like. I'm probably going to be similarly sparse for the next week; I don't count on sleeping tonight, anyway! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey there, hope all's going well for you. We miss you when you're not around. I should probably be pulling all-nighters too (and not all-nighter troll fights, like I did Saturday), with the work I have to do. But I'm not. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um, I have 8 words for you: Wow! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ok now that I've made my obligatory short random message, on to the real random message. But i don't have much time to talk so I'll try to be briefer than brief. By um, our standards :). Excellent points on the [[HRWiki_talk:Guestbooks]] article! I like the ideas, though right now I don't have the time nor the imagination to be that creative. Still, I like it. I brings hope in a otherwise tense and (not) hopeless situation. I brings an alternative to a post guestbook-alyptic world. It's the feel good movie -- er I'm getting carried away. But seriously, what I'm trying to say is this: to me there seemed there was much tension that arose with the guestbook situation (and certain events didn't help things), more so than with most issues. Your options and optimism, I think, will help ease those fears and tensions in some of our users. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==We Are The Wiki==
''This is an expansion of an idea from [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities]].'' 
     The recent [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]] phenomenon brought into discussion a tension that has been around for a while. Specifically, many who supported guestbooks felt that HRWiki is, or should be, a place for H*R fans to interact. Others pointed out that it is a "knowledge base," and that its activity should be limited to the upkeep of its content, and pure socializing done in other venues such as the forum. "I'm ... hesitant" about my own position on this issue, and the wording I used in the "Guestbook replacement" suggestions reflects a hope that the wiki's fun (maybe even frivolous?) functions and its documentary function are not mutually exclusive. 
     The fact is, though, some of my suggestions (based on current user practices) toy with a fine and elusive line in [[HRWiki:User space]]. My suggestions included saying hi to other users on their talk pages and featuring content on your user page that provokes responses on your talk page. Now a few quotes from [[HRWiki:User space]] include (emphasis added):
*''Your user talk page is for other users to discuss matters ''related to the Wiki'' with you.
*''Generally, you should avoid any ''substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki''. Examples include ... ''discussion not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki'' ... excessive personal information ... opinion pieces not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki or other non-encyclopedic material...''
     By a strict reading, this could be taken to mean that ''any'' discussion on a Talk page or a User talk page that is not ''directly'' related to a matter of editing is in noncompliance. I'm not going to take the trouble or embarrassment of linking to examples, but I suspect every user here has at some time been party to a discussion that had nothing immediately to do with H*R or the wiki. However, there are several (intentionally) vaguely-defined phrases in there: Just how much is "substantial content"? How much personal information is "excessive"? How much opinion constitutes a "piece"? But the Great Loophole is this line:
*''Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.''
     This, dear friends, is the text of my sermon today. This line expresses—guardedly and with many qualifications—a recognition that certain "not strictly 'on-topic'" behaviors may in fact be not simply permissible but indirectly beneficial. It does not go on to specify what these behaviors "at their worst" might do, but recent events certainly helped us imagine. So it is with great care, my brothers, yea with gravity and trepidation, that we invoke this clause. It is not intended to justify chaos, or to effortlessly nullify the injunctions above it. Yet invoke it I must, and I do so with sobriety and deference. 
     'Nuff preacher-talk. So: what is this clause? Is it a contradiction? Is it a weak concession to the fact that we all chat a little here and there, and it doesn't seem to be killing us? What about that last sentence: "At their best, such activities help us build the community, and this helps us to build the knowledge-base." Do you really believe that, or is it just a pleasant fiction softened by euphemism? What ''is'' this "community" of which we speak so often? 
     (Now, a disclaimer: I don't know a lot about "Wiki" philosophy overall; I've never been involved with Wikipedia and know little of its ideological history. When I say "wiki" I'm speaking specifically of HRWiki, and what I've observed here.) But I'll tell you what I've seen: I've seen people on the Eastern seaboard, the Pacific coast, Texas, Canada, Israel, Australia-by-way-of-Macedonia, and everywhere in between talking, collaborating, and knowing each other's "names" and personalities, not just demographics. I've seen users genuinely broken up over the "departure" of people they've never seen or shaken hands with—which would be odd behavior for a group of cyber-librarians who just happen to be simultaneously working on a database. I've seen users respond to vandal attacks, some of them massive, not with a language of personal injury ("Oh no, what'll ''I'' do?" "Look at all this I've got to revert!"), but calling each other by name and encouraging each other. I've seen users take great pride in their personal contributions, presumably experiencing the joy of accomplishment and becoming incrementally better defended against the paralysis of percieved incompetence. I've seen users engage in heated—often turbulent—disagreement, and learn, albeit by trial and error, how to do so in a civil, productive, and charitable way. 
     Let's step back for a sec. What are you doing? You're sitting on your butt looking at a computer—which is displaying an "opinion piece" about a wiki—which attempts to chronicle and analyze every minutest detail of an internet cartoon—which itself consists of some eccentric and anatomically deficient characters saying a few minutes of funny things on roughly a weekly basis. Is this feeding children in Africa? Is it curing cancer? Is it impacting the policies and actions of national or local governments? Well—hold that thought. My point is: '''what is the ultimate purpose of this wiki?''' Yes, recent discussions have precipitated a restatement that its primary purpose, it's ''raison d'etre'', is to be a knowledge base, documenting H*R cartoons. But its primary purpose does not disallow secondary purposes, and I see its potential for teaching "community" to be a compelling one. If, through this wiki, even one person learns how to work collaboratively with others, to encourage each other's efforts, and above all how do disagree with someone and debate that opinion in an open, respectful, and supportive way, ''and'' if these lessons transfer over into real life, then something much greater has happened than simply transcribing a web cartoon. And it ''could'' very well impact the society and governance of neighborhoods and nations. 
     This brings me to the title of this section. '''We are the wiki.''' The wiki is binary data on a server, yes, but without us it would be static. Furthermore, because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=157523&oldid=157522 the wiki is a liquid], it assumes the contour of its container, the users. If we were replaced with a different set of users, the wiki would become fundamentally different. A gardening model is not adequate for the wiki—we are not groundskeepers, who come in and work on "the wiki"; we ''are'' an integral and vital part of it. If there is an analogy, maybe we're like a good sports play—ahem, sports ''team'': the members of a baseball team all work together on something (the game), but if they all got up and left "the game" wouldn't remain (just a stadium full of very surprised fans). You see what this means? Nearly every user here expresses some desire to "help the wiki," "maintain the wiki," or otherwise contribute to its upkeep and improvement. The most immediate way to do that, certainly, is to edit mainspace articles. But tending to relationships with other users—cultivating them, pruning them, mediating them, and healing them—is every bit as much a way of improving the wiki. 
     On the flipside, that's what's so terrible about [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|true trolls]] (as opposed to vandals): Just as vandals attack the digital, visible fabric of the wiki, trolls attack the relational, social fabric of it. A vandal simply aspires to scrawl a few lines of graffiti; a troll aspires to tear ''us'' apart. Which is more insidiously devestating? A vandal can be reverted and blocked in seconds. The damage of trolling, if accomplished, is far harder to repair. So if you consider yourself a "troll fighter," take a deep breath and a look in the mirror before replying hastily to another user: when you damage a relationship, ''you'' are the troll. And keep in mind that, unlike the many defensive tools we have against vandalism, our ''only'' defense against this vulnerability is the intentional, calculating, untiring maintenance of our "community" ties—in other words, working specifically on "being friends." 
     This is where the last phrase of that Loophole gets its justification. "Building the community" does ''indeed'' "help to build the knowledge base." It defends and perpetuates it, and gives it a greater excuse for existing than the Flash-based antics of an Internet phenomenon. And for that reason there ''is'' an excuse for User talk content to go beyond "What's up with this edit?" and "Please delete a personal pic." ''As long as'' the activity is kept within reasonable bounds, and does ''not'' in fact impede the wiki's primary functioning—and ''if'' it is ''meaningfully effective'' at building relatinships—then it is not simply irrelevent frivolity; it is in fact... the Work of the Wiki. 
     Whew! That was long! If you just read all that, thanks and I'm sorry! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Don't be sorry. What you wrote was true to the deepest. '''We''' are the Wiki. You, me, the gnomes, the admins, the fanstuffers, the forumers, the developers, those who left, those who lurk, those that always complain that they spend too much time on "Dumb animal characters". '''We''' are all part of this, and I know it sounds like a cliché, but we must continue joining together for a common couse. It's hard to write as long as you do, but I just want to say: '''Thank you HRWiki.''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::You just said exactly what I've wanted to say ever since I joined this Wiki. At the risk of sounding like a complete nerd, I truly have to say that the friendships I've built on this Wiki are better than some of my friendships in real life. What I love about this Wiki is that you feel this sense of community that is hard to feel on other HUGE wikis like Wikipedia. Everyone knows each other, everyone participates in discussions, and everyone here has one thing in common: Homestar Runner. Thank you AbdiViklas. Thank you to everyone working on this Wiki, for you are not really working on the Wiki, '''You are the Wiki itself.''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That was by far the smartest thing I have ever heard. Like has matt, That's what I have been so afraid to say all along. It's so, so true. Amazing. You, sir, are in the skys, in the empire of great writers like Jack London, and pretty much everyone who has inspired me. Thank you. {{User: Seriously/sig}}

== Personal Images ==

I draw you attention to [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images|Sir Strong Bad's]] talk page where you offered to take one of Sir Strong Bad's personal images for your own so that he will be in compliance with the image policy. Please choose one of the following images and claim as your own if you have an image slot to spair by inserting your name into the <nowiki>{{personal-image|Sir Strong Bad}}</nowiki> tag:
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d0/SSB%27s_Gang.gif SSB's_Gang.gif] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/be/SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/24/B_and_W_Swedish_Fish.jpg B and W Swedish Fish.jpg] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/0/0c/Macedonia_B_and_W.jpg Macedonia B and W.jpg] </s>
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Homsar_Old_timey_bandit.PNG Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/9/91/homestaryodlebw.PNG homestaryodlebw.PNG] </s>

I show that you have 2 empty personal image slot. Thanks, have a great day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
:I took the fish. I would have sooner, but I wasn't sure whether it required anything more elaborate than changing the template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Kaption Kontest ==
Yeah, could I follow the rules by making it on my [[User:Seriously/old captions|Archive]]? Also, I strongly disagree with this rule when it's only a bit of fun. There is no con to people editing my userpage; unless it's the ever-hated guestbook signing or vandalizing (obviously.) I would like you to consider letting me keep it as it presents no immediate harm. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, why havn't you been on? I miss seeing comments with 100 lines just to fit your ideas. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL; because the 100 lines have been going into school-related activities. I was far more active in December and January since I had less work. Expect higher involvement in March, declining in April, and nearly non in mid-May, with a sudden spike around the last week. And a 60% chance of rain.
::Now then, about the captions: I guess it's not a hard-'n'-fast ''rule'' per se at the moment, and it's certainly not a matter of ''making'' you move it. What we ''do'' have in the way of suggestions on the topic: It's dot com says in [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities|HRWiki talk:Guestbooks]], "Please note that you should not encourage people to edit your user page, for any reason." [[HRWiki:User space#What can I have on my user page?|HRWiki:User space]] says "In general, avoid editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct any linking errors that might confuse readers. However, some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect." This clearly means that non-owner edits aren't ''completely'' forbidden. It also hints at a possibility that the owner could encourage the edits of others, though from context and when it was written, I imagine it means an invitation to feel free to correct mistakes or improve content (for instance, [[User:FireLily]], [[User:Ppk01#Japanese_Character_Names]], or [[User:Thechamp#Links_and_stuff]]). That would probably result in much less frequent non-owner editing than a recurring feature. So yeah, I'm certainly not "making" you move it, but I still suggest it. Kinda using your argument against you, what would it hurt? Well... I suppose even if you kept the image and an "edit!" link on your user pages, the captions wouldn't be with it. I was thinking there might be some way, via [[Wikipedia:Transclusion|Transclusion]], to keep the content elsewhere, have users edit elsewhere, but have it show up on your user page. I did a test in the sandbox that seemed like that didn't work, but I haven't given up on it yet. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Update: I wasn't able to get transclusion to work in my brief test. I tried putting <nowiki>{{User:AbdiViklas/welcome}}</nowiki> here, as my only subpage, and as expected it appeared. Then I went and edited the original welcome subpage and saved, but the edit didn't appear here on refresh. I'll have to submit this to those who know more about how this place works. '''Attention: 'elp!''' Is live transclusion (including updates being reflected) only for the Template namespace? Or did my test not work because the changes take more than a few seconds to propagate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Regarding transclusion: give it another go, but this time instead of a browser refresh, give the page an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&action=purge action=purge]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Cool. But I was just now trying it with [[HRFWiki:Sandbox]], since It's dot com asked that the contest be moved to Fanstuff, and I guess transclusion doesn't work interwiki? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Nope, no interwiki transclusion. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Ach wohl. (For Heimstern's benefit!) So I guess, unless It's dot com's cool with it being on a subpage, the best you can do is put the image and a link on your user page. You could of course update it manually when someone adds to it over at Fanstuff. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me. ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wow; congratulations! I've got a couple of awards [[#GVBAoA|higher up on this page]], but not pizza-based! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Pizza's always better. It also feels good that this trophy is actually taken seriously, as it seems it means much more to users than I thought it did. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Google fight? ==

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/TheKookyOne/googlefight_kooky_abdi.png 
Well, you've beat me again, comrade! ''(Though, I must wonder, what 22,500 people would want to look us up so bad?)'' =P I'm just stopping by to say hi, considering it's been a while since I was around here. How've things been? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Egad—and just browsing the first few pages of those results ''are'' all posts of mine on here (plus a few on various tech support boards)! Is it really possible that I've made over <s>11,000</s> eleventyhundred edits? I'm not sure whether that's an accomplishment or a monumental squandering of time! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd lean towards "monumental squandering". Except I'm only 300 results behind you. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::: Yeah, well, I beat both of you ''combined''! 'Course it helps that my user name is an English word... :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah that's cuz you [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Jay cheated] :-p (at 157,000,000). For non common names I have Abdi and Kookyk [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Stux beat]: 287,000 to 14,100. But the ultimate winner has to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=It%27s+dot+com&word2=Stux Dot com]: weighin in at 501,000. Not to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Tom&word2=Jay outdone], Jay is easily outclassed by Tom at a whopping 539,000,000. Congratulbalatitaitions Tom! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::But Stux is a Linux program, isn't it? So most of those hits are not you. I get 26,500 hits, and you can guarantee they're all me! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Aw, I'm only at 1190 ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''EDC:''' Well... yeah (I'm surprised that you even know about it! I just learned that it existed today!) but I don't mind counting an OS named after me! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Mine is 239,000,000. That's just awesome. But what did I do to get so much? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Probably the fact that like Stux, Jay, and Tom, your username is also a word (and in your case, a common noun) that Google would find in other contexts. What's entertaining is pitting two [[Wikipedia:Egosurfer|ego-surfs]] against each other; for instance, my brother's name beats mine handily, despite the fact that I actually have a "real" entry (i.e. related to me) in the second page of my Google results, whereas his are all about some middle school and a guy who got the Victoria Cross. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Hey Abdi. It is my pleasure to announce that you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges and responsibilities. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. May you always use your powers for good and for awesome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Great jorb Abdi. You've deserved it all to much {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, congratulations. ^-^ Keep on doin' great things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Congratulations man! notstrongorbad just became a bit stronger, but still not badder. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Abdi. My main man. My ace in the hole. Well, a few months ago I would never have thought I'd beat you to sysophood, even by one day. Man, music grad students as sysops? Can the wiki '''handle this??!!''' Anyway, glad you're on board. Oh, and I still hope for Homestravinky Runner to be realised someday. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congradulations, AbdiViklas, AKA Notstrongnorbad, AKA Professor Tor Coolguy. Your devotion to the project and your long esseys about the site are the glue that keeps us together. You brought happiness and tolarance to the wiki in your own special way. You deserve this promotion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:Everyone, didn't I say this would happen? Huh? You and Lapper? In IRC? With excessive question marks? Hey, congrats. You're a great user, Abdi! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::From the minute you welcomed me, I knew you had syop potential. You're a truly great user, man. I'm glad this has finally happened to you. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::And two more. Does this mean I have to come up with more H*R-themed "congrats"? Uh... Oh, well, congratulations! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Congratulations! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well! For the longest time, I had thought you were a sysop - you welcomed me (and it wasn't until later that I realized you didn't have to be a sysop to do that), and you've always made outstanding edits to the wiki. I've certainly enjoyed working on this wiki with you and the rest of the gang <s>up here at Possum Lodge</s> - you're administra-awesome! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:Congrats, Abdi. I wasn't in on the decision (I wasn't back from hiatus until yesterday), but you'll be a great asset to our sysop team. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

'''OSCAR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH:''' Thank you—thank you all—<sob> ... so very much... Seriously, I appreciate youse guys' appreciation and encouragement; you're all swell gents (and... gentesses?). If you haven't noticed, I haven't been around so much lately; my school time requirements have been a lot higher since the beginning of February than they were before. But I still intend to show up ''at least'' once a week or so, and like all things, this crunch shall pass. So, until I poke my nose in again, Chins up! Tifle down! And so on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas (2) ==

How are you, anything happen to you recently?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'll say! In just the past week I: 1) Got a new dual-chip [http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn laptop computer] (with a coupon, got one worth $2,800 for $2,000), 2) got into a wreck—don't worry, I wasn't hurt at all and neither was anybody else—but my car was totalled and now I have to find a new one, and 3) was made a sysop! (And 4, made some Jambalaya. But it was already a day after Mardi Gras, so as a tribute to New Orleans it was a little late.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry about your car. Although it's still pretty awesome you were maqde a sysop, so that helps a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== You no old, man! ==

Since when is being over twenty-five old? An emcee that age would be considered very young. You're not old until you start ''acting'' old in my opinion. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Well, ''I'' feel old. I think it's when you ''feel'' old that it counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, considering that I routinely act about 16, I guess you've got a point, Darth. (That can be a little problematic when trying to ''teach'' 16-year-olds; I keep getting into discussions about Inuyasha...) But it does mean something when your closest friends stop saying things like "So where are we going tonight?" and start saying things like "So good to hear from you! Remind me of your phone number; I seem to have lost it." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::You sound like my mom. She's a teacher, too. Only, my mom likes ''Halo'' more than ''Inuyasha''. She, like, walks right past the bad guys and they don't even notice. She's also smart like you, too. My mom actually liked screamo metal rock before I did, and I started liking it because she listened to it all the time. And Dorian, I feel old all the time, but not right now because I'm on a sugar high...and I feel so alive...for the very first time...and if I have any more cookies I'll probably get so hyper I'll fly, fly (only P.O.D. nerds will get that). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== totally kill all imposters! ==

Hmmmmm... I have no idea how that happenned. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Ed smildE|Ed smilde]]/[[User talk:Ed smildE|talk]]

== Happy easter ==

Hello abdiviklas how are, how's easter (If you celebrate it?)?

What have you been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hi! My Easter was great; I spent most of the morning playing my violin in church (which isn't exactly like most churches' Easter service; our worship leader is a former R&B guitarist from Alabama, so my playing style in church is less classical and more a mix of Dave-Mathews-type rock and old-timey Appalachian-type sounds). I spent most of the rest of the day working on my taxes (which are due today) and making [http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipes/meat-poultry/greekmeatballs-cb.html "Greek" meatballs] (except I mixed ground lamb with the beef) with [http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/indian/00/rec0055.html cucumber raita]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::Glad to hear it. Let's hope the rest of the year is as kind. (And maybe with a little bit less tax mess. =p) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Hey, just to let you know... ==

Wiki grrl is my best friend. Pardon her grammer; she'll correct it. I told her about homestar a long time ago and now she finally created an account here. The "bug swallow" thing on her userpage is because one of her favorite quotes from here is the whole routine Homestar goes through when he swallows a bug in Bug In Mouth Disease. Just thought you might want to know. And don't ask about PEP. I can't tell you. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 21:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. I love it when people who know each other in "real life" are on the wiki. And I'm glad she finds [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] funny; I have a hard time doing so. I try, I really try, on a regular basis, but each time I come to the end of the toon feeling a little dissapointed. Funny how one person's favorite can be another's least favorite and vice versa! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

==Typo==
Holy cow. Thank you a hecka ton for catching that spelling mistake. I ment to say "Marzipan was originally intended to be Homestar's '''''girl'''''friend." Thanx for catching that. Now, should I post the revised fact somewhere on the page? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 20:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:My gut says no. The same thing is already said more fully at [[Marzipan]], but there it's speaking of character depth (i.e. just there as a "Homestar accessory"). Putting it in an article about their relationship and wording it as "originally intended to be" makes it sound like she isn't anymore. And I've known people with ''way'' more off-and-on relationships than Homestar and Marzipan who would still refer to each other as "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings and explanations ==

First off, thanks for streamlining the not-for-profit thing on the [[space program]] article. Your edit was what I thought of doing in the first place, but I thought it might be a bit presumptuous. After seeing someone else do it, I realize I was worrying about nothing.

Second, in response to the comment you affixed to a recent edit of [[band names]], Aerosmith is a misspelling of "arrowsmith", old term for someone who specialized in making arrows. When MTV did a 10th anniversary special, Mel Gibson did a segment introducing the band Aerosmith, and the segment started off with him making an arrow the old-fashioned way, with a big hammer and stuff, and as he was admiring his handiwork, he acted as if someone off-camera was talking to him and said "what? oh, the ''band'' Aerosmith? oh..." I hadn't actually heard the word before that, and I researched it and discovered that that's actually where the band got their name. It's a fairly obscure term these days, so it's not really a surprise that many people don't know the word (and the wing motif on their album covers coinciding with the "aero" prefix just confuses things even more). - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 10:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you learn something new every day! Especially my first thought for "someone who makes arrows" is "[http://www.tfd.com/Fletcher fletcher]". It was a little hard to track down, but [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Arrowsmith arrowsmith] does appear to be legit, though. (Nonetheless it's still a good candidate for the "two will do" principle; otherwise why not add Boyz II Men, Korn, Weezer, the Beetles, or the zillions of "ska"-derived names?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
== Yeah, Music Ed. Majors! ==
Hey! Thanks for the post on my talk page, I think it's always awesome to meet other musicians. The world doesn't have enough of us these days - at least, not enough good ones. Hillary Duff and Brittany Spears don't come close to counting! What's really awesome is that you studied at one of my top choices for Graduate school. (I'm getting my Masters and Doctorate Degrees in Performance, and Eastman has quite a track record in the trumpet world!) I'm also looking at Northwestern, CCM, Juliard, and DePaul, in no particular order. It's also nice to know that there are other Music people who waste as much time on this as I do, and likely more... {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 03:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strike! ==

I agree w/ you on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=senior_prom&curid=23493&diff=320901&oldid=320874&rcid=269236&hrwiki_mwiki6_session=a5568b8e1e114a5b647cdfc23672fe28 senior prom edit], but could you post what you summarized in the [[Talk:senior prom#Summary/Relevance|talk discussion]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== (No subject) ==

6 days 'go responded to that on my talk page case you wanted to look at that. I'm starting to sound like Strong Sad here...

Yoshi minus nothing 05:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Eating The Cheat ==

I think the line about eating The Cheat comes from [[narrator]] where Strong Bad says "surprised Strong Mad hasn't eaten The Cheat already", or something to that effect. Don't you love how someone can find an answer to a question so fast around this place? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm glad you can! Several "site:" searches in Google failed to do it for me. Of course I was searching for "eat", not "eaten", which explains it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::I have some sort of urge to make a joke about "eat or be eaten", but I can't think of the wording... Hmm... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== How Do You Do It? ==

AdbiViklas, How do you do it? The long essay-like answers to questions others dare not ask. Your likely answer to this question will be, "It come naturally when your older!" But after further speculation I realized your one of the most astoundingly literate and brilliant people I have ever met. Such brain power is often looked over where I live sadly, but I see that you and a lot of people on this wiki are smart and really deserve to be recognized. Thank you for you time, {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, anything happen to you recently? Anyway, what have been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:Mostly looking for jobs. I'll be graduating in a week, and want to go ahead and be teaching by the start of the school year. The problem is there aren't that many schools that have orchestra programs and no teacher. There's one about a 45-minute drive from me, and a couple others about a 3-hour drive from me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== You're in Durham? ==

I'm in Clayton, less than an hour from you. I'll be in Durham on tuesday, going to a Bulls game. Later this summer, I'm moving to Laurinburg, though.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Ha! How about that? Yeah, Bull games are fun. I should go now that I'm done with school (and before I start again on the teaching end of it!). Minor leage baseball is the way to go: you can get in for roughly the cost of a movie, sit close enough that you can actually ''see'' the players as something other than moving dots, and there's always the $1 concessions days or fireworks shows afterward. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, my team is usually the Mudcats. Anyway, Charlotte murdered them, 7-0.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey, I was ''at'' that game! Yeah, my dad works for the [http://www.heraldsun.com Herald-Sun], and had four passes, so he just called me up that afternoon. It was kind of hard to get into the game when we never scored a run, but hey, I had a bratwurst and a bag of peanuts, and that's what really matters. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

::::No kidding? Both my parents work for the [http://www.newsobserver.com N&O].--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heh; I'm just finishing up a year's subscription to them. It would always have seemed a little traitorous before, but since the Herald-Sun was taken over by some outside company and became a lousy place to work, it was okay. Actually, as of this week, my Dad ended his 10 or so years at the paper and is now an editor at, of all things, a magazine for accountants. Yeah, N&O rocks. Sadly, since I'm moving to Fayetteville, I'll be missing it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I'm pretty sure you can still get the N&O in Fayetteville. My Dad grew up there, and that's where my parents met, at the Fayetteville Observer. Oddly enough, Laurinburg is less than an hour from there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Cool; maybe I should look into extending my subscription. I'll actually be renting a sweet, sweet house in Stedman, pop. 600, about 10 minutes' drive east of Fayetteville. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Slowly Going the Way of an MxPx Reference ==

When you said that thing about guestbooks "slowly going the way of the buffalo or MxPx" months ago, I didn't get it. Well, my mom and dad came back from dinner a couple of days ago and my mom had bought me an MxPx disc...guess which one? ;) Now I get it. Man...how come you're cooler than me? LOL.

It's a ''really'' good album, too. "Tomorrow's Another Day" is an awesome song. Oh yeah, and did you ever hear MxPx's cover of "Drum Machine Joy" by Joy Electric? I'm hunting down that EP right now just for that one song! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:LOL; maybe I know about these things because that album came out when I was in high school. I had a friend who was very indie/punk/underground-oriented; he introduced me to Sixpence (which at the time had more the connotation of Whitestripes and less... well, the romantic-comedy-soundtrack staple they became), Five Iron, Joy Electric, Echoing Green, and other much more obscure and long-forgotten quirky groups, while I introduced him to Shostakovich and other kick-butt classical music. In an interesting twist of fate, he's now a drummer in Chapel Hill's healthy indie scene, taking lessons from his childhood idol, Sixpence drummer Dale Baker, who now has a [http://www.newsobserver.com/697/story/454402.html second life as a father and Montessori preschool teacher in my town]. But no, aside from the tracks on ''8-Ball'' samplers, I never heard that much of Joy Electric or MxPx. Five Iron and (yes, I admit) Reliant K are my ska/punk of choice, and I don't really go beyond them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

::Cool! :) By the way, the lead singer of Sixpence is doing a [http://www.leighnash.com/ solo project] which looks pretty interesting. I'll keep you updated on how that's going. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== After a hefty hiatus... ==

I, {{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}, RETURN to the electronically communicating world of '''2007!''' '''Stop'''

My blasted '''Telly 400''' was swiped from the very comfort of my domecile, and upon it's return.. '''Stop'''

I was shocked to realize that the bloody roustabanks had cut off her '''little toe'''!!! '''Stop'''

What was one to do without the comma key!? '''Stop'''

I had no choice but to begin a quest... or.. send The Sneak.. on a worldwide search for my beloved Telly's little toe! '''Stop'''

To my great delight, it was returned and I can once again begin heckling the inhabitants of the '''post-modern Free Country USA!!''' '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== An electronic request ==

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  10:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC) 
 
Dear Sir Viklas STOP 

I wish to inform you that some of our gang members have left the Wiki! STOP 

I would like to ask you for somewhat of a favor if you feel up to it. STOP 

 
Dapperly yours,

Sir Strong Bad
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== Not an active thread... ==

...but nevertheless it is nice to know that somebody still visits my page! And yes, obviously I do too. Dang, I guess I need a little bit of an update, don't I? I did the whole public school teaching thing for a year, and the short version is I found out I'm not a good enough "disciplinarian" to do it well, and really don't think I'd be happy even if I were. Basically I had time to eat and sleep—no, wait, just to sleep—well, not like every night, you know.... So my wikitivity was pretty limited. Since then, I've gone back to teaching one person at a time, and am much happier. I'm even teaching some freshmen at a well-known university that starts with a "D" and rhymes with "puke".... But I'm still pretty much as busy (it's just okay, because it's busy for my own stuff instead of things I'm forced to do), and don't really expect my activity to go much beyond logging on once a Monday update's brouhaha has died down and fixing anything I might notice. But I just want all y'all to know I'm still around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, here's another ex-teacher who left it - my reason is that I had to make administrators happy before I made kids smart. Not the order of operations in my manual. Anyway, glad you are still around and take care of business. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
And another update: On Christmas Eve I got engaged! Sadly, my fiancée is Homestar-illiterate. As you can imagine, that won't last long. Also, Heimstern might be interested to know that I'm thinking about a DMA... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:Congrats, dude! Abdi may be interested to know that... well, I burned out on my PhD and am not pursuing it anymore. Maybe someday, but not now. At least I got out with that M.A. signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger (interesting thing that happens when you graduate from the University of California). So, I'm not in school anymore, which I think is for the best. If you do decide on getting a DMA, I've no doubt you'll have a great experience. Has fun! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hey Abdi! Long time no see! Congratulations on the engagement! I also wish you the best in your DMA (should you choose to pursue it). On my end, my PhD and MS pursuits are also on hold. If you have time, you should swing by [[HRW:IRC|IRC]] sometime! Cheers! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Is my signature too big to fit the Wiki's guidelines? Thanks!

{{User:Evershiner/sig}} 23:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Evershiner: It looks okay to me!
:{{sigbox|User:Evershiner/sig}}
:Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks! I'm guessing its a tad too big, but I don't think that will make a big difference. Hope not! If any of you think I can't get away with it, please let me know! Thanks so much!

== Baby daddy ==

Combolations! How great for you and Mrs. Viklas! (I'm assuming it is she who'll be doing most of the work.) Do you konw the sex? I'm guessing girl. Keep us updated, and don't be such a stranger! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:No, it's just 9 weeks along. At 19 weeks, though, I definitely want to spring for the [[Wikipedia:3D ultrasound|3D ultrasound]]! And yeah, somehow we both have a hunch it's a girl... just a hunch. — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Abdi! What up man? Congratulations on the soon-to-be mini-Abdi! I'm sure he or she will be a very healthy baby! Good to see your doing well. Feel free to swing by IRC if you have free time. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh: It's a girl!! (We'll resist the temptation to name her What's Her Face. I'm not sure the grandparents would approve.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::My guess was right! Combolations! You should name her Elizagerth. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, yeah, Elizabeth Anne! Hm... guess who might have just gotten a new nickname... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, man! Congratulations on the new baby, wife, degree, life, and all the other things you recently updated on your user page. I don't know how seeing you name on the recent Cheat Commandos toon talk page brought a smile to my face. How have you been? I myself haven't edited the wiki in also a long time, so I just lurk around. Glad to see an old friend return to visit once more! (My last year or so can be summed up [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AE.L._Cool&diff=647851&oldid=550294 here], if you're interested.) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude. If March 19th was 9 weeks, that would make this week about 40 weeks. News? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, somebody gets their merit badge in stayin-on-top-of-things! Yes, due date is Friday, and no, she's still hiding! Any day now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::Just went through that myself as my youngest is now just a month old. Congrats. Get plenty of rest! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Update? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::At the hospital now! The baby girl is taking her sweet time. We wanted to avoid induction, but it's start to look like it might be necessary... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::At the hospital and wiki-ing, now that's hardcore! I understand man. Ours was 10 days past-due and we didn't want to induce either since it caused problems the first two times. Hang in there. She knows what to do. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Little Girl was born yesterday by c-section (after 29 hrs of labor) at 8:33 am, and weighed 8 lbs 14 oz! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Looking for advice ==

Hi, I've had this account for a while, but I've never really used it. When I joined, you sent a welcome message on my talk page, so now I thought I'd seek your advice on something.
I had an idea for a page and don't know whether or not it's notable enough: Noses. It seems to be a running gag, what with several toons mentioning them specifically, and many characters lacking them. I don't know how many examples I need for it to be a viable page in it's own right. Any advice on this would help. Thanks --[[User:DoctorWorm|DoctorWorm]] 10:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:Gee, I'd never noticed just how much there ''is'' about noses until I searched for them just now! Still, I think that's covered in [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]], both in the sections on "Strong Bad's Nose" and "Other" (Marzipan's nose job). Nice to see you back around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

User talk:AbdiViklas

AbdiViklas — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:38:03 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Baby daddy */ ready to catch

=='''Explanatory note'''==
On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from '''notstrongorbad''' to '''AbdiViklas'''. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

==Toolbox==
For my use and whoever else finds it helpful:
*[[Wikipedia:List of XML and HTML character entity references|HTML character references]]
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thanks abdi--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 14:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Welcome! You've Got Mail ==
Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

=== Petition ===
We, the undersigned, do beleive it <strike>would be</strike> ''is'' very cool to see a [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] user page. ''Moreover, we sincerely thank ''notstrongorbad'' for writing such an amazing user page!'' (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC) ''KL''
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
*{{User:The Paper/sig}}
*{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}
*[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]
*— {{User:Lapper/sig}}
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=== Yay! ===
I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
::LOL. Nice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Can you help me? ==

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai
:     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; [[Help:Contents|Help]] is mostly on ''how'' to do things, [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] more on ''what'' to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at [[Help:Contents#Specific Help]]. 
:     But to answer your question: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in [[Talk:geddup noise|that email's Talk page]], and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into [[Template:STUFF/geddup noise|Stuff]], using the process described in [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference]] is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know. 
:     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in [[do over]], there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible [[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29|Family Guy reference]]. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|continue the debate]]. 
:     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape. 
:     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on [[guitar]]. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Tha Lyrical Flow==
Hey, '''notstrongorbad''', just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the ''same time''? Can it be ''done''? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), ''no'' talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called '''grad school''' (imagine [[origins|jittery green text]] plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? '''No one knows when to come in.'''") 
:     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::'''nsob''', I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of [[Wikipedia:The Descendents|The Descendents]] and the [[Wikipedia:Dead Kennedys|Dead Kennedys]], so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in [[comic]] for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, ''much'' easier to deal with than an actual drummer.

:::For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, [[Wikipedia: The Alkaline Trio|The Alkaline Trio]], except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator ''so'' authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::'''Abdi''' - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., ''prima donnas''), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

:::::nice. just nice. next there'll be a guitar that gets hangovers and doesn't even ''show up'' for practice. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Heimstern responds! ==
Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==New name==
Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::That better? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw [[HRWiki:Changing username|Changing username]] after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from Schuminweb ==

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. [[User:Schuminweb|Schuminweb]] 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalization... It used to be so coooool... ==

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! ''{said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Rant re TGS 10 ==
''{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}'' 
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking [[Talk:geddup_noise#Rant_Re:_Reality|at length]]. I can feel it coming. 
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction ''within'' the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in [[comic]], it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices). 
     ''On the other hand'', several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—'''now'''—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself ''into'' the interior fiction, then causes his representation ''in that world'' to interact with its characters, then interacts ''himself'' across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees. 
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the ''first'' time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact '''not''' Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF nuances==
Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a ''huge'' problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC chatroom]] sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. How are ya? When there's more than one STUFF revision, it's not necessary for you to completely move your vote. You should just decline one revision and accept the other. (You could also decline more than one revision, should you choose.) When one of the votes is close, it's actually better if you don't remove yours from the list. The only thing that isn't currently allowed is for someone to ''accept'' more than one revision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you for the welcome. ==

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--[[user:Kookykman|The Kooky One]][[User talk:Kookykman|(talk)]] 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Note to Self ==

Cheat talk standardized through Puppet Time. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Pages that need serious work, or completion, if I (or anbody else for that matter) happen to be bored:'''
*[[Happy Trogday]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit Visuals]]
*[[Ballad of The Sneak#DVD Version]]

'''Issues to check in on from time to time:'''
*[[Mellow Mushroom/The Sun Almost Rises]]
*stripe-ed etc.
*teenage variations

== Duffrence ==

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

:If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read [[HRWiki:User space]]. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

:Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.

== slight mistake ==
Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto [[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82's]] talk page.—[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::None at all. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Dude... ==

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was ''our'' Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07!
--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/ fanstuff wiki]? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner
:Cool. Yeah, I ''used'' the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Five tildes makes the date? 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC) FIle that under "Things I Didn't Know About MediaWiki"! Anyhoo, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm somewhat active on Wikipedia, so I know my way around a wiki. I came here for a bit of fun ;) {{User:Thetorpedodog/SIG}} 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's how I separated my name from the date on my welcome template! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks AbdiViklas! (just so you know, I was the one who created the real-world references for DVD version on [[garage sale]], but if you look in recent changes it shows an IP) I realized you left me a welcome message on my talk page (I am on2see, I can't get Firefox to remember wiki cookies (any help appreciated)) Thanks again! [[User:On2see|On2see]]
:Glad you got a username! Now then—you mean you're having a problem staying logged in because Firefox won't use the cookies? (And by the way, brownie points and good karma to ya for using Firefox!) For me, if I go to the '''Tools''' menu, then '''Options''', then the '''Privacy''' tab, I find the controls for cookies. My settings are "allow sites to set cookies," "for the originating site only," and keep "til they expire," and it seems to work fine for me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I changed my settings, but now on some pages it shows I am logged in (ex. on the page that shows right after I log in) and, well, ''sometimes not...'' (ex. right now as I am editing your talk page, it shows my ip address and also says '''create an account or log in'''... But thanks for the quick response! You're my favorite Wikipedian (really!) Thanks, [[User:on2see|on2see]]
:::Thanks! But what you're experiencing is still odd, and it would be nice to get it tracked down. One other thing: when I sign in, I usually select the "remember me" checkbox (since I'm using my own computer in my own apartment); if I hadn't, I'd need to sign in each time I re-open my browser. If you're using a private computer you might try that. Beyond that, you'll need the help of those who know more about these superboxes than I do, to figure out why your cookies are crumbling. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad = Marzipan ==

Hey Abdi! Yeah, I originally heard the song say "Strong Bad ''is'' Marzipan" also... I, too, thought that was weirder than weird. So, you're not alone. Crapfully yours, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC) ''{comment continued in next thread}''

== T-shirt pitches==
Hey, as a theory type, I was just muddling over whether there were any rhyme or reason to the pitches selected for the t-shirts in the store? I was on the verge of doing a set analysis, but somehow my sense of perspective must have put in an unwonted appearance. I mean, it's probably just Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic--but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to accidentally fit some complicated explanation! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:I wondered that myself. For awhile, I thought it was a whole tone scale, but I found that wasn't correct. So, after reading your question, I decided to use my theory chops (and that neat little trick called absolute pitch) to find out what it is. Here's what I got: A-B-C#-D#-F#-G#-A#-C-C#-D-Eb-F-G-Bb. So, there are some whole-tone segments, but it's certainly not entirely whole tone. Not to mention that I swear a few of them are some kind of quarter tone. I can't really find any good pattern for it at all (if only it had been octatonic! A little Homestravinsky Runner!) Geez, the other, normal, non-music-nerd people on the Wiki are going to have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Anyway, that's the answer I've got for your question. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::LOL!! Homestravinsky Runner—''there's'' something for Fanstuff. (How 'bout what would have happened if, instead of They Might Be Giants, they had outsourced [[different town]] to, say, Philip Glass? "''Towanisqatsi'': You'll Think You're Pea-Buried Alive!") But I'm going with the "Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic" analysis. (Though more interesting—perhaps venturing into psychoacoustics?—would be what intervallic structure, invented or otherwise, may have subconsciously influenced his output?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know where this fits into the discussion, but I think they recorded the sound once and then modulated it up and/or down. Other than the pitch, the sound effect is uniform from one T-shirt to the next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hm—true. Which would actually make it ''more'' likely that the resulting pitches are intentional. Hm. On closer inspection (and note, we're talking about the lineup in [[Flash Store]] here), I hear the last pitches from D through G a half step higher than you (Bb I hear the same). If this were true, and it were reduced into prime form—crap, it still wouldn't be chromatic. I'm not taking the time to think through this very carefully, but I ''think'' prime form would be G#-A-A#-B-C-C#-D#-E-F#. This would be chromatic for the span of a perfect fourth and octatonic for another perfect fourth; there, that makes as good a sense as any. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::: "Rondleman is my D-S-C-H!" Abdi, that is, IMHO, ''at least'' as good as Homestravinsky Runner! You crack me up! Crack! me! up! As for the pitches, you may be right (one thing that was driving me crazy was that a lot of them sounded like they were between two semitones). It's as good a theory as any. This has to be one of the weirdest intersections of Homestar Runner addiction and music nerdiness ever to appear on the Wiki... it's awesome. Maybe I should suggest that the other Homestar fans at my department read this. They'd probably think I've been smoking something. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, in particular that D and/or D# for the TGS shirt. If we take that to be a D, it gets even cooler: chromatic G#-D, one tritone; whole-tone D-G# (by implication), the remaining tritone!! (And yes... there needs to be a Trogdorcon-style segment of Strong Bad making fun of anybody who'd do what we just did.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So, I just found out that I wasn't even looking at the same set of pitches as you. I didn't realize the T-shirt pitches even existed in the new store and was using the old store t-shirt pitches. So, there may be a bit of difference because of that (notably, the old store had more pitches). That being said, I'm a little busy reading ''Stravinsky and the Rite of Spring'' right now to make any comparisons between the collections (although Prof. van den Toorn might be pleased if I found some octatonic/diatonic intersections in the collections...) Anyway, as always, I remain, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:No, I realized we were talking about the [[Flash Store]] when you cited 14 pitches, and my comments above have been in connection to them. I would guess that, even ''if'' there was a musical motivation in their pitch-shifting decisions for the 14-shirt lineup, the pitches that exist in the current store are simply a result of which t-shirts have been dropped. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== arguments??? ==

I don't give arguments to back up my edits!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:Oh. If you're talking about my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stephen923&diff=175892&oldid=169416 post on your talk page] about [[pizzaz]], then no, I don't normally post to people's talk pages when I edit either. In this case, though, you had already made the edit and I had reverted it several times, so I thought explaining myself might have been better than reverting at each other in silence. Incidentally, since then, I noticed somebody else (I forget who, but I think a sysop) put a "sic" in an html comment (<nowiki></nowiki>), saying he didn't like seeing them in the transcript. So your edit was actually a good one (although we should still put it in a comment). Unfortunately—since you ''don't'' give arguments to back up your edits, even by using the "Summary:" box, all I could tell was that you didn't know what ''sic'' means. Perhaps next time an edit summary would be helpful. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, it's about the Marshie history page.--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
::I see. Still, [[HRWiki:Standards#Always use the Summary box|using the summary box]] is a good idea. (Actually, more than just a good idea.) If you make an edit, you probably have a reason for doing so; explaining that reason might make others less likely to revert it, or at least let them know you're making thoughtful edits and not just trolling. (Getting a user name helps in the same way; props in that regard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Um...was this suppossed to be for me? That's what it says...if this is about the edits I have made with no summary, it was because I accidentally clicked "save page" before putting in the summary. -[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::No no, sorry 'bout that; I confused the two "S" people who posted on my page today. I was talking to [[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]. (And you don't have to tell me about the perils of clicking "Save page" too early; I need to learn to use "Show preview" more often. Then I'd have fewer consecutive edits where I correct my own spelling or add periods. And less crushed spirits, too!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::::From the Marshie history page, ''(Reverted edit of 24.24.226.13, who perhaps will give us some argument to back up his edit, and changed back to last version by DorianGray)''--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:::::Yes, I know what you're talking about. My reply is four paragraphs above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ooooooops!!! ==

I guess I should have looked the word "pronunciation" up in a dictionary before i changed it...sorry about that!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:S'cool! By the way, if you're using Firefox (if you're not... '''do!'''), there's a nice plugin called DictionarySearch that lets you right click on a word and look it up instantly in a dictionary. (I also used Firefox's "keyword search" function on www.m-w.com's search box, so I can just type, say, "mw pronunciation" into the address bar and go straight to the definition. Just two more examples of why Life Is Better With Firefox!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks for the advese...advise. [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Verse ==

I'm cool with making that read like poetry. I just copied it from the WP article. But is it a poem? I thought it was just a saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:Again, I assume it was in German at first. I added the slash because it was the only thing I could figure the semicolon was thinking of. It ''is'' a rhyming couplet; although it's certainly not "a poem," a lot of folk wisdom sayings are expressed in rhyme. I think the fun fact could do just fine without the slash, though; just so long as there isn't a semicolon there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::I just figured whoever put the semicolon there did so because of all the commas before it, in an attempt to separate it. But the solidus is fine with me. By the way, it's "[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]." :) 06:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::?? I.e. if I'm going to drop the "It's" you'd prefer I capitalize the ''d''? But don't you prefer the "It's" be included anyway? (I was being a little informal in the summary; sorry!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... I think all would be best explained by a trip to the first line of my [[User:It's dot com|user page]] (although I was also partially rebelling against the one-word "dotcom" variety from the edit summary on the STUFF page). — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 06:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Welcome==
Hey AbdiViklas. I was just wondering how you are welcoming people with your user page instead of a welcome. It is obvious that you are doing it by accident. Do you use a sub page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I'm supposed to type ''<nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''. In a hurry, I often forget the ''/welcome'' part. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Why don't you just copy and paste it? Thats what I do, and it has been working pretty well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suppose I could. It's one step longer than ''subst'', but fool-proof! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I have been doing it 150 times. No problems yet! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

----

Thanks for the welcome. Almost as fast as we do at [http://furry.wikicities.com/ WikiFur] (and, truth be told, somewhat more polished ;-). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks! I know we've got at least one Furry enthusiast around here, [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]], although he hasn't been around much lately. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *chuckles* - yes, I know furrykef, he used to hang out with us in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicities #wikicities]. Been a fortnight since I've seen him - maybe he's gone on an online poker binge . . . [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sid and Marty Kroft Present: G.K. Chesterton ==

Abdi, because of you I now know of G.K. Chesterton. If I ever come across a "Father Brown" story, I'll know the truth - the truth embodied in a large, walrus-like British author/journalist. I now consider myself just that much richer in spirit. Next order of bwisness - determining the fate of Mayor McCheese. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Seriously. You should see me when I find out that there's some out-of-print story of his I haven't read! I do a little dance that certain NFL touchdowners have been known to refer to as "vulgar excess." So yeah, if you like detective stories, Father Brown is a great way to start (particularly ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/innocence/title.html The Blue Cross]'', but the best-known, and arguably best, piece of fiction he ever wrote is the novel ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/thursday/thursday.html The Man Who Was Thursday]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Losing the will to check the edits closely ==

I knew that would happen. Earlier today I had to force myself not just to hit the revert button, and actually examine the edit. Why won't this guy talk to us? On an unrelated note, I have, upon reflection, decided that compromise might be the best avenue for the New Boots/different town non-reference. It's too bad B left so quickly, before we could have a chance to really discuss it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Indeed, it's perplexing. I can't figure out whether he (or she, but he in the future for simplicity) is an extremely zealous, extremely well-meaning, extremely misguided individual, or a one-trick troll. Some of his edits really are improvements, like correcting something to reflect what SB really typed, but others seem to just add !s where there are few and take them away where there are many. But no, in the final analysis I think he must be well meaning. My only explanation for the silence is either that he's a true "gnome," who tries to do good but is shy and prefers anonymity, or that he's a user so new he hasn't discovered his own talk page or Recent changes, and is simply selecting emails at random. (Say—there isn't any kind of browsing setup that would keep someone from seeing the "new messages" banner, is there?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm confounded as well. My hunch was that he <s>or she</s> was never getting the message, hence my test on the sandbox, but I was able to receive my message to myself just fine as an anonny. And this guy's not even experiencing the weird IP changes I was, so that shouldn't be an issue. No, I think we're being ignored. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== On Trolling and other Isomorphisms... ==

Don't mind my nonsensical banter... I am currently (''not'') working on writing a statement of purpose for my fellowship application (properly read: ''avoiding it''). Don't ask when it's due, otherwise you'd be shocked. Anyway, I was thinking we should make up a section called ''[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=187594&oldid=187593 trolls post the dardnest things.]'' It would be a hit don't you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It would be ''hilarious''... but don't you think people would then ''try'' to get in it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, I'd read it. Several times. In fact, I'd print it and read it offline. Now I'm excited. I really hope this is able to be done ''somewhere''. I'd love helping this thing. Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::EDIT CONFLICT (or whatever): Yes, people trying to get in might be bad... Perhaps it'd be better to not broadcast the idea.
::I think they would want to get in. I admit that I've gotten an occasional guilty pleasure out of reading the ridiculous things trolls write (and I'm always thinking to myself, "This is vandalism! I'm not supposed to find this funny!") Anyway, it would just encourage trolls to keep vandalizing if they hoped to get featured somewhere on the Wiki. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm reminded, for some reason, of the Simpsons (or was it Futurama?) spoof of Bill Cosby's similarly titled show. What if this were done somewhere off-wiki? (I.e. on somebody's website or blog?) 
:Stux: What manner of beast is said fellowship application? It sounds like the sort of thing that carries high stakes. Me, all I have to do is transcribe some field notes and make some lesson plans, but I've been putting it off all day and so will stay up all night to make up (yeah, that's how I work). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:''(DorianGray): Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion.'' A hint of seriousness yes, an iota, I am not so sure ;). Unfortunately, yes, this could serve as an incentive. But have any of you guys ever read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense|Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense]] (or rather perused through it)? We'll always have trolls you know, just not as many as the big 'pedia, but even an increase might be 'enough'. As for the fellowship, it is a [http://was.nd.edu/gem/gemwebapp/public/gem_01_100.htm summer-work] type program that links you with industry and helps you pay for your grad school. I'm *finally* getting momentum, esp now that I found my grad school application essay and realized it will likely help me finish what i need to do! <insert *evil grin* here> :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I actually ''have'' gone through the Deleted Nonsense stuff on the big wiki. It's amazing... And I'm sure we have our fair share of weirdness... I know I've seen some. Now then. Back to the All Hallow's Eve toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::wow, i just looked at that page. hours of wierd things about evil squirrels and chocolate covered raisins......{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Note ==

It's not "What am I supposed to do?", but "What ''I'm'' supposed to do?". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oop. Thanks. That makes a little more sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or a little ''less'' sense, depending on how you look at it. I guess it makes more sense for Homestar. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==Solfège...==

Humming RE-MI-DO-DO-SOL, eh? What does that refer to? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/ Close Encounters of the Third Kind]''. Aliens contact Earth—and choose moveable do as the best method of communication. (Seriously—they even know the hand symbols!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::That would explain my lack of recognition. I haven't seen that film. And am not missing much, apparently, if it features moveable do. I really dislike moveable do. Talk atcha later. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::WHOA no you don't—knock moveable do and then just postpone the discussion!!! (For onlookers, this is what music nerds fight over. It's like which Elvish language is better.) And them '''is''' fightin' words. I'm not going to go into my rant on the subject at the moment, but it's very entertaining (as long as I don't break anything). On the other subject, you ought to see movie; if you like sci-fi it's a classic, but even if you don't it's a well-shaped movie for its time. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That's it, man! We are dueling to the death! A PLAGUE UPON MOVEABLE DO! No, just kidding. It's only a personal dislike, not a pedagogical philosophy or anything like that. But, since I have absolute pitch, I don't find it very useful. I prefer a system that always calls a C a C. I actually just use the German names of notes (since they're all monosyllables). I guess a lot of people find moveable do useful, but I was always annoyed that my teachers made me use it too when it isn't my ''modus operandi'' at all. Anyway, that's my philosophy. Talk to my man with the green and white stripes. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that ''is'' my objection to fixed do (one of them); as long as we're using these letters, it's simply a redundant system. If we were French it would be different, but at the moment we already have a system tied to absolute pitch. (Learning it for the purpose of international communication is a different matter; I have a Korean student whom I use it with since he grew up with it; but for sight-singing purposes it doesn't really bring anything new to the party, where as moveable brings an opportunity to engage tonality.) I guess, in pedagogical contexts, its supporters are putting a higher priority on developing absolute pitch than on developing sensitivity to tonal function. Personally, preferring a less eurocentric view of musics, I'm not as wed to a 12-note, octave-based, equal-tempered system as the be-all and end-all; I think training students to critically match a provided pitch is the most important. (I keep having dreams of writing a piece of ear training software with string instruments in mind that uses some midi controller with a slider—preferably emulating the physical instrument—to adjust the user's pitch to match a generated one, with visual representation on-screen and a little "you win!" message when it matches!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I suppose you're right, it's just that I've never used real fixed-do, just my German system (which I usually consider a variant on fixed-do). I don't really have any use for old do, re and mi except when singing ''The Sound of Music'' (which I don't really ever sing). For me, sightsinging is much easier with an absolute pitch system, so I sing "ah, ha, tseh, tseh, deh" (for the Glance motive from ''Tristan'') or whatever for whatever notes I need. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, for my own use, I prefer "moveable la." (Something we used to joke about in college—"La, la, la, la..." Not to mention moveable na, doot, and doo. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
''{conversation continued in next section...}''

Oh, something just came into my mind about this earlier today: About the first pronouncement I ever heard on the topic of moveable-do (or any kind of solfège) was from my fabulously musical mother, who bluntly told me, "Solfège is stupid." So, I was probably biased against it from the beginning, and that surely contributed to my bad attitude about it for the rest of time. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==...And the Absoluteness of Absolute Pitch==
I really don't have anything useful to add to this conversation, other than to say I understood it, and to agree with AbdiViklas, because moveable do makes way more sense in the sense of teaching singing within a key or when a particular key isn't important (I realize that's a strange concept to someone with perfect pitch (which I don't have, but I wish I did. I do have pretty good pitch memory, so if you ask me to sing an F, I can usually hit it or at least get within a half step, but I can't hear a note out of the blue and immediately say, Oh, that's an A-sharp)). I still, however, think both AbdiViklas and Heimstern Läufer are cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:And the sentiment is mutual. I have this weird thing that I've heard referred to as "acquired pitch"; i.e. from playing the violin so long I've developed pitch-identification ability within its range, but my skillz have an abrupt cutoff at the bottom note of the violin. Also, certain instrumental "voiceprints" completely throw me for a loop. I can ID a pitch on piano, flute, oboe, saxophone—but I'm pretty inconsistent with clarinet. And, frustratingly, the human voice! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I hear about people being able to identify pitches only on certain instruments all the time. I've never had that experience; to me, a pitch is a pitch, whatever instrument it is. I've actually often wondered what it would be like not to be able to identify and produce pitches at will, and I admit that it baffles me as much as it must baffle the normal people to know that I can do so. Oh, and Dot com, you may not want to wish you had absolute pitch. It's a really neat party trick, but it can be really frustrating. If someone starts singing a song in a key other than the original, it really grates on me. Then there's period-instrument recordings: while I certainly respect their intentions, I really can't listen to them because they play everything too low. So, those are the disadvantages of absolute pitch. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, now I don't have that problem. I can ''tell'' when something isn't aligned to a modern, Western, equal-temperament A-440 scale, but I don't suffer under it. After all, our selection of A-440 is so arbitrary (unless there's some kind of acoustic principle I don't know about, like the circumference of the earth divided by the distance to da mooon on the winter solstice equals A-440), and, although there are some mathematical arguments for our division of the octave, I prefer to engage the scale systems of other cultures on their own terms. Admittedly, it is a little hard for me to listen to a [[Wikipedia:Gamelan|Gamelan]] and remember that it's not just "out of tune," that they tuned it to those pitches just as carefully as I do, but if it's a 10-minute piece I get acclimated before long. The alternative is the colonial British attitude that dismissed the Carnatic system as a primitive "folk music" because their "poor intonation" was "indicative of a bad ear."
:::     And yeah, I played in Eastman's baroque ensemble for a couple of years (I didn't realize at first what a resource I had there, or who [http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=115 Paul O'Dette] was!), and it really throws you for a loop to play roughly an exact half step down. After the first 10 minutes of the rehearsal, though, I just get recalibrated into "Baroque mode." (But when listening to my prized [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm Freiburger] CDs, I still mentally identify what I'm hearing as a half step below what's written, and if I try to think about it it screws me up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Arbitrary A=400 is indeed, yet it is completely ingrained into my ear. I guess it wouldn't make a difference if the Baroque ensemble were playing a piece I didn't know, since I wouldn't know its real key (although it sounds odd to me to hear a Baroque piece in Db major, since that was a rather uncommon key during that era.) The biggest problem is anything well-known: if it's ''The Messiah'' or a Brandenburg concerto the lower pitch is just going to sound wrong to me. Ahistorical and arbitrary, but still part of my congnition. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, same here. I have the problem of kind of subconsciously imagining the physicality of the note, i.e. the fingering they're doing—which gets pretty funky in Db (or Gb!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Pitch (music)#Historical pitch standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Amen, hallelujah, preach it. Also http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1305.htm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Hi guys! I've been following this conversation for a while, and I figured I may have something to actually contribute: I have this vague recollection from my physics II class that the reason 440Hz is used is in part due to resonance qualities of the material. That is, that would be why we'd use 440Hz and not 439 or 441. (????) I'm trying to find out more about the subject, then again reading about [[Wikipedia:Pitch_%28music%29#Need_to_standardize_pitch|Pitch standardization]] suggests that I remembered it wrong, and that the resonance frequencies have to do with all the ''C'' frequencies being the same, and the pitch really IS arbitrary. (Apparently they tried to set A at 439 once but it being prime was really hard to reproduce). While reading i'm learning about such big phrases as [[Wikipedia:Fundamental_frequency|Fundamental_frequency]] and [[Wikipedia:Harmonic series (music)|Harmonic series]]. Hmmm, maybe I don't have anything to contribute... I like shiny things. (There, that's better!). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::But don't assume we ''really'' play at A-440 today. We had an Israeli/French/German conductor at Eastman who routinely tuned us to 442 or so. I hear it's fairly popular in Europe (but what do you expect from people who drink Warm Ones). I hear also there's some concern about pitch just continuing to rise "out of control" (see a [http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-January/001455.html response] to that concern). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! Did I just read that correctly? Fines by the Italian government for tuning forks outside of 440!? O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Proposed, proposed. And as I read more I'm getting very confused; I'm not sure what connection [[Wikipedia:Lyndon LaRouche|a guy]] who tried to run for president from jail has to the Italian senate, or whether any bill with his name on it would really be taken seriously. On the one hand, it must seem remarkable to the general onlooker that these music nerds are ''at'' each other's ''throats'' over a half-step, but on the other hand the whole "Slatkin serves Satan" thing and the absurdity of all these shenanigans are vaguely pleasing to me. They renew my faith that the "classical" music scene has not simply ossified into an arena for the performance of 18th-century works with 19th-century sensibilities amid 20th-century conventions of a darkened, hushed audience composed mainly of nursing home excursions and tobacco heiresses trying to assuage their inherited guilt by donating to a cause that is both ostensibly societally uplifting and effectually exclusivist. Rather, it offers hope that the sheer ''messiness'' we see in music history—with major composers' mud-slinging, name-calling, old-school/new-school ([[Wikipedia:Ars nova|Ars nova]], [[Wikipedia:Claudio Monteverdi|seconda practica]]), East-coast/West-coast-style invective, rampant rumors that certain [[Wikipedia:Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini|virtuosi]] ''did'' in fact "serve satan," and audiences that simultaneously awarded their [[Wikipedia:Farinelli|favorite vocalists]] with lives of fame, free love, and [http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/a/plate_ipa00014.html gratuitous jewelry] that rival any modern-day blingster, and then gossiped obliviously through the operas to the point that even their pet stars, when their arias came, had to come out to the edge of the stage, grab the spotlight, and gesticulate broadly to wrest their attention—is not dead. (If you didn't follow that sentence, leave out everything between the dashes.) In a way, it's almost a performance art of sorts; LaRouche, his critics, the respective governments, and the colorful, vicious, vivacious rhetoric form one big, societal piece of entertaining pageant—"reality opera," if you will! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hallrunner ==

Awesome job on [[Hallrunner]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I was bored, and using "random page" until I found something worth editing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==wiki defender thing...y==

Hey abdi, thanks for the trophy!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, dude! That's was awesome to see first thing in the morning! [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 19:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hey; that seemed to me to be the clearest example I've seen yet of what it was meant for. But you know, with a little extra effort it would have been chock full of Steak-umms! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks also from me. :) I didn't do much, but I appreciate it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And many ''mahalos'' from me too. I think that was the ultimate recognition I've always wanted on here... Thanks, man. And I'd just about had it with that trolling toaster. So I stepped in to fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hizzlary Hahn==

So I just got back from a Hilary Hahn concert. She stuck around afterwards to sign CDs; I cursed myself for not bringing mine, and for not bringing a camera. Can you imagine how a photo of me 'n' Hilary would look on my user page?! (If you're having trouble understanding the significant beautification that this would represent for my page, examine [http://www.hilaryhahn.com hilaryhahn.com].) You have to understand, she's like exactly my age; when I was 16 I bought her solo Bach CD simply because she was on the cover (and no, we're not talking about a [[Wikipedia:Lara St. John|Lara St. John]] cover; her eyebrow alone was enough to sell me), and have harbored a crush ever since. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:This may actually be the first time I've heard of anyone having a crush on a famous ''classical'' musician. I can't say I've ever had one of those myself. At least I'm glad to hear that not ''all'' the heartthrobs have to be no-talents like Britney Spears. Anyway, that's cool you got to see Hilary Hahn in concert; I hear she's great, although I haven't yet heard her myself. I probably don't listen to as much violin solo music as you do, since I'm a horn-player-turned-tenor. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::They say you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but if she plays half as hot as she looks, then you had an extremely enjoyable concertgoing evening, to put it mildly. You should have drawn a picture of her and handed it to her after the concert. She would have posted it on her website. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah, but she does, that's the marvel of it. Her strong suit is an absolute, impeccable, superhuman purity and perfection of tone and intonation. You could have a competition in which all the major violin supastars play only one note each, and she'd win, for her bow control. Others may have a tone that sounds perfect from 10 feet away, but then you could put it under a microscope and you'd find the tiniest jitter or bump in their sound and none in Hilary's. >>''Edit'': Wait, I just found an Amazon page that puts it well: "Her tone has the directness and intensity of a laser beam and the unblemished purity of fine-spun crystal." (That page, btw, is her own [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/580596/ref=ed_mus_mysh_qp_hahn_1/102-4070132-3504108 music recommendations]; the story of her convergence with [[Wikipedia:...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] is quite amusing.)<< That Her weakness is that her artistic persona and interpretations are fairly reserved, poised, collected, and cool. Not like she's a cold fish, or lacks emotive expression; she can bring it; but she's not all-over-the-place, blood-'n'-guts melodrama like [http://www.nadjasalernosonnenberg.com/ Nadja], and sometimes I want that. I'd actually prefer both artists for different pieces. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, Heimstern (can I call you Heimstern?), I played horn too! I'm immensely glad I chose it (due to its superiority over all the other brass instruments (I'll insert that qualifier there since this ''is'' AbdiViklas's page, and there's no need to be a bad guest here)), but the real reason I originally selected horn over trumpet is that this hot girl was also in the section. Another ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Yes, Dot com, please do call me Heimstern. I find it overly formal and awkward when people address me by both first name and surname (if those terms really apply to a pseudonym like "Heimstern Läufer"). I always did love the horn, and I picked it because I liked the instrument, not for any ulterior motives. (I also thought I'd have advantages finding the right notes because of absolute pitch.) Then came college and the teacher from the abyss. We were ''not'' meant for each other at all. So, I'm now a tenor. Let me tell you, the world of vocalists is ''miles'' away from the world of instrumentalists. Half of them seem to seriously believe that singing the right rhythm is optional. I've actually been working on a Schubert song, "Auf dem Strom", which features a horn part in addition to voice and piano. It has to be one of the most beautiful and heartrending songs ever written. It alone proves your point that the horn is the greatest of brass instruments, since no trumpet or tuba could ever be so lyrical and full of ''Sehnsucht''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 18:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::LOL—I had a tubist friend at Eastman who would be up in arms at that. Thanks to his friendship, I know far more about tubas, tuba rep, and where to buy tubas than I'll ever need to. I've also had the joy of hearing the last movement of the [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LWQH/qid=1132021791/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=classical Mendelssohn violin concerto] (listen to track 3) arranged for tuba!! "Bopbopbopbop ''boop'' boodeboop boop boop boop boop boop..." It's something like watching a hippo do a tap routine on a tightrope: astounding, but you wonder why it had to be done. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, tubists just exist in a completely alternate universe to us, anyway. My thought about them is the same thing all we tenors think about basses: "Why would anyone ''want'' to sing/play that low?" [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==I know I am not supposed to, but==

I need to talk again...
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you did it the right way this time. Forum ahoy! (Though I can't be much help; I'm leaving in half an hour for a big music teachers' convention.) There are plenty of smart folks over there, though, who can take my place. I will at least check up on your edits at the forum before I leave and when I get back Monday night. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey again, I sent a message to you in the forum, send a repply when you get the chance.
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==A telegrammaparcel==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Feel free to leave me an electronic message. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''
==Sweden??==
Judging by that message you posted on Sir Strong Bad's talk page, are you seriously from Sweden, or are you just saying that 'cause your name is Abdi'''Viklas'''? Because Sweden is totally my favorite country ever. Because I used to live in Sweden before we moved to Seattle. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, I'm no more from Sweden than [http://www.mclars.com/ MC Lars] is actually "[http://mclars.com/laptop_lyrics.html#stock Straight Outta Stockholm]." For what it's worth, I'm a hardcore fan of Swedish folk music, especially the group [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogArtist_01.asp?Action=Get&Artist_ID=45 Väsen]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::Never heard of it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Not an acceptable situation! Check out particularly their second US release, [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogAlbum_01.asp?Album_ID=101 Whirled] (even though it's from, like, '96, it's still their best single album). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I'll take a look at it. Thanks. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Hey there Abdiviklas, how have you been, i've noticed you mostly answer my questions in the discussion pages, lets get to konw each other:

1.Whats your real name?

2.What do you do for a living?

3.How did you get the name "AbdiViklas"?

4.How long have you been on Homestar runner wiki?

5.How did you find me?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, you can get some of the information you want from Abdi's [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]]. A person's user page is usually the best place to start if you want to know about a user. Hope that's helpful! (And, Abdi, hope you don't mind my butting in.) ''(grins sheepishly)'' [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not at all; I've been doing it a good bit myself recently! And he's right, Nikolce; my [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]] explains questions 3 and 4 pretty well. As for #1, I prefer not to use my real name on the internet if I can help it. And for #5, I found you by watching [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] and noticing the questions you were asking on discussion pages.
I have some questions for you, actually!
#How do you pronounce your name? With friends with international names, I like to at least make an effort to pronounce them correctly. I know it's hard to explain in writing, without being able to speak, but at least could you explain the "-ce" ending: does the "e" have much of a sound? If so, is it more of an "ey," like "hey," or "e" like "wet"? And what does the "c" do—a "s" sound, a "k" sound, or a "ch" sound?
#I think we're all a little confused about your gender. You mentioned that your name translates to "Nick," but [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] adressed you as a lady. (Here "Nick" is usually a guy's nickname, short for Nicholas; the female equivalent is "Nicole." I've never known a girl named "Nick," though I think I have heard of one who went by "Nicky."
#Umm... I guess I only had two questions, but a two-number list didn't seem like a real list. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:1. The way you say my name is would be like the same way to say Europian names: Nikolce Kocovski-Ne-kol-che Ko-cho-v-ske. 
:2.I'm male, its just that Nick is easier to say then Nikolce, I've never been called Nicholas or Nikky, but you can call me that if you wish. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== More Anagrams ==

Now look what you've done. That anagram thing you showed me is massively addicting. But there's one in particular I wanna share. "Strongbadia" can be arranged to spell "A brat's doing". Don't you love it when they work out and mean something relavent like that? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I personally think Strong Bad should abandon the "Prof. Tor Coolguy" moniker in favor of "Dr. Snot Bag". [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
::But who among us will agree that Strong Mad is "Most Grand"? Although Strong Bad would agree that Strong Sad "Drags Tons", I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Holy cow—what storm have I unleashed?? Those are supoib, guys. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== A Reply ==

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for caring. I appreciate it. [[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Don't mention it. In fact, it could be considered a school assignment, since I'm currently reading [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807746096/qid=1132443884/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 The Challenge to Care in Schools: An Alternative Approach to Education]. I find it a little alarming that the idea of giving a crap can be described as "an alternative approach," though in fairness it gets into way more than that. It's about creating a supportive classroom community that doesn't just announce the tenets of "character education" without really believing them, but models and values true... well, caring. Much more fun. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== On TOCs and other nuances ==

Hey Abdi! What's up? I wanted to brief you on TOC oddities since you asked about it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Coach_Z&diff=202369&oldid=202367 here]. Basically, what Mediawiki does is that it hides TOCs for pages with less than 3 titles (i think it's 3 at least), however there are special commands such as <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></code> that make the TOC be placed in that precise location and have the TOC always be hidden, respectively. I think that toc can make a TOC appear in short pages, but I think <code><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></code> might be more of what you need. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words This page] explains more in depth the different Magic Words available for use in the wiki. I hope this is helpful and informative! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Cool. I thought it had something to do with the titles, and added one at the top of the page (thinking the important thing was that the page start with one); that must have bumped it over three, since a TOC appeared. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jibney ==

Looking at Jibney's edit history, it looks like he's always been a little off-the-wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided he just wanted to start making gibberish edits here and there. But then again, it's also possible someone is trying to make him look bad. Any ideas? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think he was immitating president bush when he signed your guestbook. I think he just wants attention and wants it bad. My guess is that he either thought it would be ok to deface a vandal's ip user page, or it might even be his own and doesn't know he can't prove that it's his ip. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::'''(Edit conflict):''' Yeah; he ''has'' demonstrated an ability to write in at least semi-standard English (e.g. his last few responses on his user page). I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he has made legit article edits like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strongbadia&diff=prev&oldid=199670]. Remember several of our power users started out rough, with a block or two. ''{after edit conflict}'' ...and I would think it would be more in his interests to prove it's ''not'' his IP! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::''(I almost put this [[Talk:The_Brothers_Chaps%27_Fansite_Acknowledgements#Possession|in the wrong section]])'' Jibney claims to have been [[User:Timmy%21|Timmy]], who used to be a vandal. (Not a Visigoth) But yeah the changes are recent enough that it would be best that they are not his. But remember he doesn't have to explain that (innocent till proven guilty?), just explain his current actions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yep. And he also identifies himself as one Marshieman on the Fanstuff wiki, who apparently wore out his welcome there for general obnoxiousness in Aug and was blocked for a year. See [[User talk:Jibney#Hello, Marshieman.]]; apparently [[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] has some bad blood for him (see also [[User talk:Jibney#Heh heh...]]). Obviously he has his past, but I'd prefer to hold out hope whenever possible. A mentor orchestra teacher I know has several stories of kids that she would have paid money to get out of her class, who she didn't believe had ''any'' musical talent... who went on to attend conservatories and ultimately become music teachers themselves. Besides, unless blocks are made binding unilaterally across the wikis, he should be judged simply by what he does here.
::::To the best I can tell, neither [[User:Timmy!|Timmy]] nor [[User:Jibney|Jibney]] has ever been blocked here. The user Jibney was created, actually, at [[User:Kerrek_slaya|Kerrek_slaya]]'s suggestion when Timmy couldn't remember his password and didn't have an email address (see [[User_talk:66.169.119.137]]). And to avoid confusion, I strongly doubt that ''our'' [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]] has anything to do with him. His [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|edits]] consisted of a spree of obscene, offensive page moves roughly 5 hrs before Jibney's first edits. Timmy/Jibney's style tends to be at worst nonsensical or puerile and involve heavy AOLspeak. Jibney was created 5 hrs too late to give him an alibi, but I really don't think it's him. If I'm right, it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to make bad edits appear as his; the "Heh heh..." section of his talk page linked above seems to involve some such occurrence on fanstuff. Additionally, both here and on fanstuff, occasional runs of brazenly vandalistic and heavily misspelled edits have been made (e.g. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=185999], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186003], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186005], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186011]), which he has subsequently [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:66.169.119.137&diff=prev&oldid=186037 explained] as his little sister gaining access to his computer. Although Thatkidsam doubts his veracity rather sneeringly, compare the semiliterate raving of those edits to his explanation; although uncap.d, etc, it shows a different style. And the edit 2.5 hrs [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:boring_%28really%29&diff=prev&oldid=185897 before] the suspicious ones was even more prosaic. Bottom line: the guy makes things hard on himself through AOLspeak and impulsive editting that seems to make more sense to himself than to others, but I see in his saner edits the desire (or at least potential) to be a constructive member of the the wiki, and I'd prefer not to oppose that desire in anyone as long as it remains at the forefront. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow! That is the most thorough analysis of a user I have '''ever''' seen! I didn't even know how many colons to use to indent this thing! Oh yeah I should reply to this too shouldn't I? Well basically you've summed up Jibney's mystery into ... another mystery! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome template ==

Quick question: When I use '''<nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''' to greet new users, where does the template come from? Did the change you made to your Welcome template (with the Tour) also affect that tag? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. What you're using is [[Template:welcome]]; I took that and made a personalized version which I keep at [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome]], and that's what I editted. You can do the same if you want; you'd use the same code to implement it, but substitute its location for the word "welcome" (e.g. I type <nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if you think the tour should be added to the main welcome template itself, you could just add it there. If you decide to do that, however, it might be a good idea to announce your intentions on [[Template talk:welcome]] first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think it should be incorporated into [[HRWiki:Introduction]] first, and then the Introduction should be linked in the welcome template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==HTML Romanian codes==
For my own reference, and the curiosity of anyone who happens by, how to create some of the characters in the Romanian alphabet:
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! Upper case
! Lower case
! Upper case encoding
! Lower case encoding
! Notes
|-
| Ă
| ă
| &#258;
| &#259;
|  
|-
| Â
| â
| &#194;
| &#226;
|  
|-
| Î
| î
| &#206;
| &#238;
|  
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ș}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ș}}
| &#536;
| &#537;
| s with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ş
| ş
| &#350;
| &#351;
| s with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ț}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ț}}
| &#538;
| &#539;
| t with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ţ
| ţ
| &#354;
| &#355;
| t with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|}

Are you romanian Abdi? (Or of romanian descent?) My old roommate is Romanian. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope; no connection except that I went there two summers in a row with teams from my church. I tried to pick up a little language, but really had only an ornamental vocabulary (enough to say something in Romanian just so I'd be saying something in Romanian). I got myself into '''BIG''' trouble, evidently, when I tried to order a lemon Fanta (they have different flavors over there, many of which are awesome), and mispronounced the word for lemon. My hosts' eyes got ''really'' big and they turned bright red; when they regained the power of speech all they could manage was "Don't... ever... say that again...." Me: "Why, what? What did I say?" Them: "You... ''{pause}'' you don't want to know." To this day I don't know what word that sounded like!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol! Well if you transliterate (is that a word) what you wrote perhaps I can ask my old roommate this weekend. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The word was (and here I get a chance to use some of those characters above) "lămâjie"; that "a" with a circumflex, as I understood it, was supposed to be something like the "oo" of "wood" but closer to the "ou" of "would," a hint of the "oo" of "boot" creeping in. I way over-emphasized the latter, and then gave the final "e" too much of a Spanish "ey" sound—"luhmooyay." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL i'll see what I can do... I think I have enough to explain to him the word ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::So where your hosts like really mad or were they cracking up? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Either cracking up or kind of embarrassed or both, depending on their personality. (These were teenagers; the 15-yr-old guy thought it was the funniest event of the 21st century, though even he demurred to tell me what it meant; the shy girl looked like she thought it was funny and felt guilty for thinking so.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Not that this really relates to Romanian, although it does relate to language mix-ups and the current season: My favorite mistake in a German essay by an American student was "An Thanksgiving esse ich die Türkei", which means, "On Thanksgiving I eat Turkey" (i.e., the ''country'' of Turkey!) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL; I'm ''sure'' he tries. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ohhh it's possibly slang then. My old roommate moved from there when he was 8 and i don't know if he knows all the slang. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== A wery new electronic reply! ==

'''For Sir Viklas. Hi?'''

'''1. Prehaps! I'm've was to make football often times. Play? Know. Best football results twice again.'''

'''2. Every age I have seen out as a baby. I think I has the solution: width times height.'''

'''3. As a wery old, I can fathom the scene to be with me. Looking always as I ever did. It was not came's. He borrowed mine.'''

'''Okay, Viklas, one would certainly wish that would answer your questions. I do believe that we're on the same page. Unfortunately, yours has a large F on it.'''

'''— Sir Stark Dålig '''

==Marching Bands (not of Manhattan)==

I said "marching bands". Most schools near me have bands, but none I know have marching bands. I live in the same city as TBC. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's reassuring. And frankly, I'd rather they had a sit-down-an'-play-music band than a put-on-a-purple-thing-and-dance-around band. (Or better yet, how about Strings and Choral programs?) But seriously, I'd be very surprised if a city the size of Atlanta didn't have a fair number of HS marching bands. In fact, a cursory Googling reveals that [http://www.marching-band.net/news/ "The Official" Metro Atlanta Battle of the Bands] on Oct. 14, 2004 included bands from the following schools:
::Southwest DeKalb
::Morrow
::Redan
::Westlake
::Columbia
::Towers
::Mays
::Stephenson
::Martin Luther King
::Pebble Brook
::Cedar Grove
::Riverdale
::Lithonia
:However, cross-checking against the [http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/our_schools/schools_list/school_list1.html#high list of Atlanta public high schools] shows only Mays. What's the deal—the others are suburban schools with nice budgets? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woah, there's a actully a real school called Riverdale high? In those old Archie comics he's in riverdale high school, for those of you who don't know. That's awsome! {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 00:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC) PS: For some reason my sig isn't working on this page. Or my new x-mas themed one. Whats happening?
:::Man. Now [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=205706 my] User page is haunted! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Weird, man. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, problem fixed! Curse lifted :p. Binary Searches sure come in handy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::That Stux is a computer genius man! (Let's do a dance for the computer genius man.) Btw (not in the tone of trauma that would continue the quote), what did you do? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well it didn't involve shotguns that's for sure... If you check out this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=prev&oldid=206819 diff] you'll see that there were a few template inclusions that were not closed, making everything be template text. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Dances for the computer genius man* doo-doo! doo-doo! Thank you stux! you rule! Doo-doo!{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lovett and Westminster aren't on there because they're private schools. Fancy-shemancy. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I once again come to you asking for a favor! '''Stop'''

Might I trouble you for a photograph? '''Stop'''

Because you are being inducted into my honorary members gang! '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

'''PS: If possible, please make it a B/W photo. My telegramophone doesn't seem to handle the colored genre oh too well. Regards!'''

:I'd rather not use my real picture, for the same reason that I'd rather not use my real name. Also, I'm not actually Swedish (see [[#Sweden??|conversation above]]). But since I impersonated a Swedish prince on your talk page, I find it only fitting to use an [[Wikipedia:Image:Ducele_de_Halland.jpg|image of one]] to represent me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::I bet you are a hit with the ladies Mr. Swedish Prince. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Woah, that picture totally looks like me! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== GVBAoA ==

[[Image:Pewtervanburen.PNG|right|Pretend its golden, since I'm already pushing the one-personal-image rule.]]
Abdi, you've just earned yourself the '''GVBAoA''': 
'''G'''old 
'''V'''an 
'''B'''uren 
'''A'''award 
'''o'''f 
'''A'''wesomeness 
for helping me get off the ground when I was a newbie, and for being an all around nice person. There are only five in the entire world! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Whoa!! What an honor! I have so many people to thank—I'd like to thank the academy; I'd like to thank The Cheat, for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
==The "Yet another award" award==
:Just kiddin. It's the '''thank you award'''. I present this thank you award to AbdiViklas, <s>Pretty weird person</s> Swedish Prince, for giving me an awesome trophy and for just being cool.
So here you go! Thanks!
:{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC) [[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|Thank You Award givin to '''AbdiViklas''']]
::Presenting: the '''"No, thank ''you''!" award'''! For being an expert trophy-giver and encourager. People who affirm good stuff in others are themselves ''good stuff''. G-E-W-D.
::On an unrelated note: when I hear "Swedish Prince" I can't help imagining a [[Wikipedia:Prince (artist)|guy in a purple suit]] trying to look sultry but failing because his [[Wikipedia:Swedish Chef|eyebrows and mustache entirely obscure his face]]. [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u2/141603.html Oh-oh-oh, the Swedish thing]... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== "wiki is gay"? ==

I'm sorry, I need to ask this question in order to see if this was just an inane dream or a reality - did Homestarrunner.com temporarily put up a message in their updates section (top-right corner of the main pages) saying that "The HRWiki is gay"? Thanks, this is killing me... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 13:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Interesting. No, we don't have any record of that happening. Who did you hear that one from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::TBC like us. We're cool. Most of us seem to like members of the opposite gender...so there. **sticks out tongue and gives a rasbery** {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that sounds something more like what Matt Wilson would do... He doesn't like his cartoon's wiki much, and has put things like "the wiki is creepy" in the credits occasionally, and even openly mocked them with a "Bonus Stage Wiki Guy" character in a recent toon. But the Brothers Chaps love us. They sent Joey sketches and stuff. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Who's Matt Wilson, and what cartoon does he make? He sounds like a not-so-nice person. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Matt Wilson writes the [[Wikipedia:Bonus Stage|Bonus Stage]] webtoons. He doesn't think much of his fans, I think, the wiki in particular. But the cartoons rock. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Like I said, I think I was — literally — dreaming. I was up really late last night. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::...which reminds me that I really spend too much time on the computer. Dreaming about the internet, wow... :/ {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL—yes, that is a warning sign. (I can just imagine Gafaddict doing couch mumbling: "Mbl... hammminbble... Edit conflict...".) Seriously, not only do TBC like the wiki, their record is notably free from the use of "gay" as a generic negative. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, me i've be doing great, can i ask you some questions:

1.whats your favourite toon?

2.whats your favourite character?

3.how did you find Homestar runner?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Two of those are tough. (One's easy; the answer to #3 is on [[User:AbdiViklas#Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction|my user page]].) For favorite 'toon, I'll have to limit it to sbemails to make it easier. In that case, the three that I ''enjoy'' the most are [[funny]], [[caffeine]], and [[your friends]]. I can't decide exactly what the order should be. I feel a little guiltily lowbrow for enjoying so much the ones that are just straight-up, slapstick, audiovisual gags; I ''appreciate'' the ones that are "clever" too, but I can't help just laughing at loud at these.
:For favorite character: also tough. Of course I like 'em all, for the appropriate reasons. (Strong Bad because he's... Strong Bad; Strong Sad for his good taste in literature, music, art, and intellectual culture; Homestar for his heartwarming naïveté; etc.) If I have to pick a major character, I'll go with The Cheat; I just bought one of the The Cheat t-shirts while they were on sale, and it's the first t-shirt I've bought. But if we're including minor characters, I think What's Her Face is pretty cool, as I once [[Talk:What's Her Face|observed]] in a characteristically wordy post. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[Talk:What%27s_Her_Face#From_the_Paper_.22Teen_Girl_Squad:_Class_Stratification_and_the_Role_of_Otherness_Within_A_Multi-teen_Peer_Group_Dynamic.22|''No wonder'']] you didn't post the entire link that discussion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That and the fact that my comment was in response to some above that heading. (By the way, that heading was [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]]'s doing; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=151263&oldid=151256 originally] I hadn't started a new section.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=next&oldid=151263 see].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

== Louisiana residents ==

AbdiViklas: I noticed that you reverted my edit on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/weird dream#Louisiana lingerie?|this page]], which was a removal of the phrase "it could even be a jab at the relative intelligence of Louisiana residents." Let me make the case for my removal, and then I'll let you do with that information as you see fit.

I'm not aware of a stereotype that Louisiana residents are unintelligent. I ''am'' aware of a false stereotype that people living in the South are "slow." I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. In this case, I have little confidence that TBC would propogate this bias--they are from Georgia, about as South as you can get. (I also have difficulty seeing the connection between askew undergarments and intelligence, although one could argue this point.)

So, I removed your comment because I saw no need to perpetuate an insulting stereotype, especially one which residents of Georgia would be unlikely to defend. I trust that you'll take these comments as what they're intended to be--an explanation of my position--and not a personal attack. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your tact! I live in NC myself, so I certainly don't subscribe to the "dumb Southerner" concept (and am concerned about research showing employer bias against Southern accents!). I offerred the comment as illustration that the Easter egg could have meant something other Mardi Gras. In fact, my first thought when watching it, since I didn't make the Mardi Gras connection, was "Ha ha, that one couldn't even figure out how to put it on!" True, Louisiana isn't the butt of such jokes so much as Arkansas; it was jokes like the [http://www.joke-archives.com/youmaybe/arkansasreadingtest.html Arkansas reading test] that I was thinking of. (And I've heard that one ''from'' Southerners, in NC!) I'm not so sure TBC have qualms about perpetuating insulting stereotypes, either; I find it hard to watch Li'l Brudder in light of the physically impaired. (But yes, to their credit, they steer mostly clear of shock humor and using touchy subjects for cheap laughs.)
:As for removing the comment, I just reverted because I thought it was generally frowned upon to edit other people's comments in STUFF or talk pages. (I mean, I once deleted one when someone used a homosexual slur, but for anything less extreme I try to let it stand.) In light of your argument that acknowledging a harmful stereotype reinforces it, though, you can consider it ''my'' deletion!
:Thanks for responding in such a diplomatic and well-explained way! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, thanks for the cheerful reply; I probably made a mountain out of a molehill anyway (it's only a STUFF page, after all). I'll keep your comments in mind before editing arguments in the future. Have a great week, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== greetings from Nikolce Kocovski (plus homeschooling) ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing fantastic. anyway onto business:
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you ever had a bulling problem in school?
#what have been up to recently?
yours truly [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey Nik!
:#I think I'd noticed [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] a couple of times on recent changes, but I hadn't looked up his user page until you asked. I wonder how his Elvis impersonation is? I hope it's better than the one on [http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/01-1.html this] page (see the entry for Jan. 8)!
:#I was [[Wikipedia:Homeschooling|homeschooled]] from 2nd grade through high school, so I certainly didn't have as many problems with bullying as most students, but even so I had some. Interestingly, one of the guys who used to tease me in really painful ways eventually (like within the same year) realized that he really was hurting me, apologized, and started being nicer. I think he wasn't really so much a true bully; he just thought he was being funny (while I didn't). These days, as a teacher, I'm more concerned with trying to prevent bullying for my students. It's really a serious problem; in the U.S. 75% report being bullied at some point, which means not only are they being denied a fundamental human right, but their education and development are being affected. I'm not sure how much I can do as a teacher to really change bullying, but I intend at least not to be unaware of it or (worse) ignore it.
:#Recently I've been doing a bunch of homework for finals in my university courses. Also I've been visiting a high school where I've been practicing conducting the orchestra in [[Wikipedia:Arcangelo Corelli|Corelli]]'s ''Christmas Concerto'', which has been a lot of fun. Conducting Baroque music has an effect on me sort of like "runner's high"; by the end of the rehearsal I'm a little giddy. Their concert is Tuesday. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I had no idea you were once a homeschooler! So was I from K-12. I'm still very glad of it and quite appreciative of the sacrifices my dear mother made to teach me (especially since I was sometimes grotesquely lazy). Anyway, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup. From about halfway through 2nd grade, when my Mom pulled me out because I was having serious problems. I was ADD (not hyperactive) before it had really become well-known, and my teacher couldn't understand why I wasn't getting my worksheets ''{sneer expressing intense teacherly contempt for worksheets}'' done without supervision. Plus I was a real troublemaker, having problems "keeping my hands to myself" (less from agression than from a confusion about the fact that tripping others or swinging my lunchbox into them was not as funny for them as for me). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Not that it's much to add, but my ex was homeschooled. I think kids can benefit more through homeschooling. If I have kids, I'd like them to be homeschool as much as possible too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Let me hasten to say that, as somebody about to be employed by it, I'm definitely not anti-public-education-system. The pros and cons of homeschooling versus public would have to do largely with what you felt the purpose of school was. If you adhered to a very traditional understanding of education in which "knowledge" meant a canon of factual information to be "uploaded" from written curricula and direct instruction into students' minds—in which "school" was primarily about the stuff it seems, on the surface, to be about (Reading 'n' Riting 'n' 'Rithmetic, etc.)—then yeah, that can be more efficiently accomplished through 1-on-1 instruction. But if you define "knowledge" as socially created, i.e. understanding is best achieved by experiencing something rather than hearing about it, and the transfer of experiential understandings through group work is not simply a side effect of schooling but an asset; if you think that what school is there to provide is not simply the official curriculum but the hidden curricula of social interaction and societal structures, and especially if you place a priority on exposing your child to other socioeconomic groups and cultures, then public school becomes desirable. (Although, contrary to popular opinion, homeschooling isn't typically insular; I had just as much contact with peers via co-opped classes and extracurricular clubs as most public schoolers. It would still be possible to achieve all the benefits above, though in my experience you might have to look outside the homeschooling community for meaningful interaction with other cultures.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:I seem to be a bit late to this conversation, but I just figured I'd also meantion I was homeschooled from grade 2 onward as well. I switched when we moved way up country to Quesnel, and when we moved back south I never went back. I liked it, especially since it's so flexible. A bit ''too'' flexible sometimes too, it is somewhat dificult to stay on schedule. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

::I too, am late in responding, but I will anyway. Yes, I, too, occasionally found it too flexible. My mother can tell many a story of my dreadful procrastination. It still bites me occasionally, but I think I've mostly outgrown that bad habit now. (Of course, finding the Wiki has done nothing to improve my habits in that area...) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, hehe. Perhaps my earlier Wikiing is partly responsible for the remarkable intensity of my finals-period workload, which is why I haven't been on her much in a couple of weeks. Anydangways... I'm back! Missed y'all. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I am updating my Honorary Gang Members electronic page and I need the following information. '''Stop'''

What rank would you consider yourself in my gang? '''Stop'''

For example, I am the '''"Brains"'''. '''Stop'''

The Sneak is '''"The Thief"'''. '''Stop'''

And The Strong Man is '''"The Brawn"'''. '''Stop'''

Please try not to use any of those ranks. '''Stop'''

Please respond on my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:Gee, I'm not sure, S.S. Bad. I think I need to rewatch Ocean's 11 for ideas. I'll get back to you, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Official "You're Back!" Greetings ==

Hey, what can we say but that we missed you? I constantly kept thinking "Gee, where's Abdi and his amazing replies an' such?" I even tried to fill your niche whilst you were gone (check my contributions. There's at least one marked "An Abdi-worthy reply"), but to no avail. So now we won't be too bored, with so many other people leaving the wiki for the hols. Glad to have ya back, Abdi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:<s>Oh? You were gone?</s> Er... I mean... glad to have you back too! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I noticed you'd been a bit scarce around here. I figured it was school-related. I've been done for over a week now. I'm in Oregon visiting family and friends for Christmas, but I'm still definitely present on the Wiki. So don't worry, either you or DorianGray, I'll be there like shareware. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Glad to have you back, man! And I also rememebred you. See my reply over [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17#Is_it_cardboard.2C_or_is_it_feedback.3F|TB's talk]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
You guys are so nice! So—yeah... guess that was kind of a false alarm, what with not visiting for another week. As you guessed, H.L., my absence up until about the 22nd was school-related, but absence since then was spending-Christmas-with-the-family-related. To be more specific, sitting-around-in-pajamas-eating-chocolate-and-drinking-hot-cider-and-egg-nog-alternately-for-three-days-straight-related. We punctuated the festive lethargy with trips to Narnia and King Kong, which were both just great, in their (very different) ways. Next up: Pride & Prejudice (yes, there ''are'' men who dig it), Harry Potter, The Producers, maybe some Memoirs of a Geisha, and all those things from a while ago like Crash or Zorro that I haven't seen yet. Whew! The worload!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic crisis! ==

Dear, Sir Viklas '''Stop'''

I apologize for being absent for a while. '''Stop'''

The Decemberween season keeps me busy even in the past! '''Stop'''

It is a delight to recollect with the gang during this glorious season! '''Stop'''

However our joyous gatherings may have to end shortly. '''Stop'''

For a complaint has been presented to my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Please refer to my talk page and view the complaint from Sir Dot Com. '''Stop'''

If you all agree to the idea he has proposed then the gang may live for another day! '''Stop'''

I thank you all in the most gracious manner and bid you a very merry Decemberween season! '''Stop'''

Sincerely,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:See [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images]] for more info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing great. i just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thank you for your kind messages, you've helped me quite a bit. We friends right?

merry christmas [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:04, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:Course we friends, foo! You're my only Macedonian Aussie friend; those are hard to come by! Seriously, I'm really happy that you've stayed involved in the wiki, and I admire the fact that you keep asking about things and improving your wiki skills. Thanks for saying hi for the holidays; it's a little late to return the Merry Christmas, but I hope you have a great New Year's! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Happy new year ==

Happy new year and a enjoyable year for you, see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings from M.J ==
Uh, Hi, you may not remember me but I was a long term member of the hrwiki and then got locked out with the changing of sites and re-registering and the no-annonymous-users-can-edit situation.
''{takes breath}'' anyhoo I'm back and I wanted to thank you for your support, I was going to give up on the hrwiki and never return until I got your message on my livejournal account a while back urging me to keep battling on. So Thanks! I'll show myself out -[[User:MJ|MJ]]

== thanks, abdi ==
thanks for reducing the exc. points on my guestbook. ciberdude also seems to have accidently added four 4's instead of three on his signature. that man does not know what he is doing. just like you did to me, i hope we can somehow teach him to be more familiar with the wiki. thanks to you, i'm joining the welcoming commitee. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::''{note: This edit and its reply were made after the entries below them}'' for the record i '''do''' know what i am doing. i used to be a nerd, fixing trolling, reverting stupid ideas, but then when i tried to add to the [[www.hrwiki.org|wiki]] i kept getting reverted on all the references and goofs. so i thought that the wiki must not like too streached references and i started deleting stuff but that went down hill when thise edit got reverted so i realized that all of you are exactally the kind of person [[Strong Bad|SB]] would hate. so i decided to troll and troll and troll and troll and troll [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Wow. Um, I assume you changed your mind again. But yeah, the experience you mentioned (getting reverted at first) is so common I put some stuff into my [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome|welcome template]] about it. It's tough, because everybody makes an attachment, however little, between their edits and themselves; praise for their edits is praise for them and an abrupt and ignominious death for their edits is felt personally too. And yeah, you woudn't be the first who's responded to that injury by trolling. But as I'm sure you've experienced, all that reverting at the beginning is really just the result of the wiki learning curve; like people make edits that don't match the standards or that say something that was already said elsewhere. So anyway, I hope you're finding it a little less frustrating now being "the kind of person SB would hate." (Actually, seriously, I don't think he would; he's a pretty big grammar nerd himself. But yes, the kind of personality that makes the wiki work is closer to Adrian Monk's [[Wikipedia:Obsessive-compulsive disorder|OCD]] than Strong Bad's "whatever"-ness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:''{responding to Seriously again}'' Don't mention it. And thanks for your response patching things up with Ciberdude (though I took the liberty of moving it from ''User talk:Ciberdude'' to [[User talk:Ciberdude444]]). There are some unfortunate examples on the wiki of users who are still pissed at each other and seriously make life rough; there are also ''daily'' examples of people who might have reason to be offended with each other shrugging it off and being generous about it. I encourage you to keep doing that—and not just making it so relationships with other users are "okay," but actually actively trying to improve them (i.e. calling them on it when they make a really good edit, or just making them feel good in whatever way you can). It's not just some Hallmark-Care-Bears conspiracy to make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy; it actually makes for a better website (and ultimately better people in real life!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. In other words, easy with comments like "doesn't know what he is doing." Yeah, literally, we're all learning more about how this wiki thing works every day (like just a minute ago I learned how to resize an image!). But be careful not to be insulting. (Also, I don't think there's any clue about Ciberdude's gender; assuming all online types are male can be dangerous!) Unrelatedly, cool that you're joining the welcoming committee! It's a great feeling when you get to welcome someone (though you have to have a fast trigger finger around here; the past few days I've seen, like, six new users get welcomed by other folks before I had a chance!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

nice. real nice. "quick! the carebears are coming! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
anyway, i don't even know your gender, so i can't say anyting. i'm pretty sure thunderbird is a guy, but i'll have to look into it. i'm guessing......your......a......guy? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. (Come to think of it, I guess my user page, while it tells ''everything'' else about me, doesn't mention that!) I was thinking of users like [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] who often get assumed to be guys. (And Soylent Green is a hilarious movie.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

true dat. in fact, double true.
if you know what snl skit double true is from, you get a gold star. hint: it's new. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ironically, although I ''know'' about the Chroni(what?)cles of Narnia, I haven't seen it yet. (The rap, I mean; the movie was great.) I'm-a go see if I can hunt down a copy hosted by a site my filter won't block. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
youtube.com
:Yeah, that didn't work for me, but I found one that did. Dang; now I want a cupcake! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
two. no six. no twelve. BAKER'S DOZEN!!

dude, is that not the funniest thing you have ever seen? i watch it all the time. in fact, i'ma go watch it right now. see ya. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 22:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, that was up there with the Cowbell. I think the NY Times (or was it Slate?) was right; what makes it funny isn't just that their whiteness but the extraordinary harmlessness and yuppiness of their subject matter. I'm reminded of Weird Al's ''It's All About the Pentiums''. ("I'm the king of the spreadsheets / got 'em printed out all over my bedsheets...") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

due, seriously. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==ciberdude444's at it ==
abdi, ciberdude444 has once again reverted my comment on the guestbook. i said it was okay, but i didn't think it would be like this. i don't want to edit something on his userpage, and i doubt he will listen to me. i will try anyway, but i need your help.
:Meh; it doesn't seem to me like it matters a ton either way. The question is who gets "custody"; whether you can't edit because it's his userpage or he can't edit because it's your comment. There's no official rule about it, but it seems like nobody should have to live with stuff on their userpage they don't want, or with their edits misrepresented. I think I'll revert it to your signature alone, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a really big deal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, ab! abdi! abdivi! abdiviklas! yeah, i just don't like that stuff. it's a tender relationship, we don't him to put stuff that i would assume offensive and start another argument. i just want to take things carefully. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::who needs grammar lessons now? "we don't him to put stuff " whats that suposed to mean?
:Cool. Also, with regard to the age thing, maybe the best thing you could do would be to take your real name off your page. Zillions of people could be your age, but you'd be ''amazed'' how easy it is to trace a person from their name. (In my city, at least, if you've ever voted, the info on how you're registered and your voting history, plus address, is right there on the web for free!) I've got my age on mine but don't give out my name or anything else very personally identifiable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== what do you like mostly about homestar runner? ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been i've been doing great, the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Man... actually, that's a really tough one to answer. Why ''do'' we—or I, at least—like H*R so much? I think it has a lot to do with the form it's in—relatively short cartoons updated roughly weekly for free, and all accessible at any time. I mean, let's face it; it has nowhere near the same number of laughs-per-week as, say, Simpsons or Futurama, but if H*R were on TV it would mean it would come in 30' chunks instead of 6' max, and (Tivo aside) you could only get to it at specific times, one 'toon at a time. The best time of my life was when I was watching the Strong Bad Emails for the first time, and was spending days at a time just watching them back-to-back chronologically; I think they're actually funnier that way.
:But I haven't ''really'' answered your question. What ''element'' of H*R do I like best? Well... I dunno. Do I like the randomness of its humor, or its relevence (via the "pop culture, mumble grumble" references)? Do I appreciate more its PG rating or the frequent ways it pushes that envelope (which, frankly, are funnier because they're so unexpected than the reliable shock-humor of Family Guy and related shows)? Do I enjoy Strong Bad's wittiness or Homestar's naivete (or Marzipan's activism or Strong Sad's misunderstood artistic sensibilities)? Can't say. I guess it's '''D''', all of the above!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

i kinda agree with you, the reason i like homestar runner the best on the internet, for its humour, the way it uses pop culture like simpsons a bit, and the characters. but the reason why i like it is:'

because it acts like a cartoon. i'll explain:

you see most of the things you find on the internet are either horrible violent with lots of swearing or lots of adult content. but homestar runner is nothing like it. Do you understand?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ps: i do aslo enjoy sb emails long or short toons, the characters etc.

==welcoming==
can i join the welcoming comitte? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 17:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sure! Check out [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]]; it's got all the details on how to do so. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, that kind of proves my point. ==

''"sorry, rv; "hypocrisy" seems to me to have inaccurate connotations. He doesn't *give* a darn, really, whether "jillion" is a real word."''

The fact that he doesn't give a darn is kind of the point. He holds everyone else up to quite lofty standards of perfect spelling and grammar but doesn't do the same. That is the definition of hypocrisy and being a hypocrit. "Do as I say and not as I do." -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see what you mean. But see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Strong_Bad&curid=818&diff=230061&oldid=230056&rcid=174751 reply just now] on [[Talk:Strong Bad]], disagreeing somewhat with that definition of hypocrisy. The definition you offer is certainly a common one, but I feel it's a misuse of the word. "Inconsistency" might be better. I also reverted partly because I just felt like, by itself, it wasn't that remarkable; now, if a page gets made, that would be a reason to have a remark saying something like "this is another instance of '''Strong Bad's Usage Errors'''" or the like. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== An electronic GIF! ==

Dear Sir Viklas, '''Stop'''

Please view the brand new symbol-ma-drawin' I have crafted on my electronic user page! '''Stop'''

Has fun! '''Stop'''

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== Manual of Style ==

Actually, I ''just'' added that rule (and it was because I saw the stripèd discussion, though I'd been considering it for a while), but it actually works in your favor if you count the fact that (a sentence prior) Strong Bad actually ''did'' write "striped" while pronouncing it "stripèd". Thus, this one can go either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the Appetizers/Appe-teasers example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that was actually a bad example (as "Appe'teasers'" is written in the 'toon in question in an Easter Egg, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].) But, if we were to assume that nothing was written, then you'd still want to write "Appe-teasers" because that's what was said. There are better examples out there, though... most of what Coach Z says, for instance. That was just the first thing to cross my mind. This has been the unofficial consensus for a while, actually; I was just trying to make it official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. We've got a lot of back-revising to do on it, then. But maybe before we do, at least with regard to the aspiration-of-"-ed"-suffixes issue, see my hesitance I just added to [[Talk:highschool#Accent on striped]]. I agree that using the diacritical is preferable to "stripe-ed", but—I can't get over it's funnylookiness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::One more question: What's an example of a mispronounced word where the phonetic spelling is identical to the standard spelling? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just thinking hypothetically, maybe something like pronouncing "bomb" with the final ''b'' aspirated, but not enough to transcribe as "bombuh". You'd have to add a note. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Colonel" is a good one. Currently, it's written as such on every relevant page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, now I understand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Sorry. You must be talking about my first upload. Right after I saw it had no copright notice, I went to fix it. I did so for the other 3. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:Also, will you check to see if this is ok? [[Characters#Other_Alternates]]. The teen versions. Thanks. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Looks okay to me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Edit conflicts ==

Hey there, Dr. AdbiViklas. I'm totally cool with you giving 24.239.109.228 [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:24.239.109.228&diff=prev&oldid=239289 extra instruction], but I just want to point out that noting an edit conflict is completely unnecessary in this case. In fact, most times, noting edit conflicts are unnecessary. Crapfully crap, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; I know that the general rule is "if your comment would still make sense in the flow of the page don't note it"; in this case I did note it because otherwise there wasn't much explanation for my commenting at all! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it looks unprofessional to have a note up there. You can easily reword the message and have it flow. I would agree with it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::That makes sense; I did so and also added a bit about the turn he took. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Heh. You're awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::LOL; on the wiki I seem to be permanently in schoolteacher mode, in which first-time vandals are suspendees and potential dropouts. (The alarming thing that just kind of clicked for me recently is that these users ''are'' in fact real people, and their interaction with this wiki is a window of opportunity to teach them about how to interract with others. (Yes yes, and about H*R!) That's why, although the squabbles and typos of middle-school users take up time and energy, I'm glad we have them. The whole Seriously/Totebag/Ciberdude deal is a chance for three guys either to learn that nothing's fair, no one in authority cares, and name-calling and petty revenge get results, or to learn that co-operation and community are more than smarmy buzzwords and are actually realisable and effective. Then, realizing that two of those go to the same school: what could be the exponential impact of two kids who actually believed that?) So even though chances are good he'll never come back, and even though it was kind of silly of me to do so, that's why I left that for him; I daydream that maybe he's at a formative moment in his life and the wiki could tip the balance between a life of crime and a career as a school counselor or a Doctor Without Borders or some such. It sounds cheesy, but... maybe it's not too great an exaggeration! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I just read all of that. I should print that out and save it for posterity. ''print_of_it.exe''. I don't find it silly. That's the perfect way you should treat someone like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, I added another note on the the IP user talk page noting that the article talk page (rather than STUFF) would be the best place to discuss the change he wanted to make. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::P.S. I was edit-conflicted on this edit. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::::LOL; thanks both of you. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Incidentally, what do you mean "three guys [are] either to learn that nothing's fair [and that] no one in authority cares"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think anyone's going to learn that around here! I just mean that's the burden of responsibility on us. If this place had the atmosphere that a lot of fansites and online communities in general did... well, events wouldn't have played out the way they ''did''. I leave it to your imaginations to conjecture what would have happened (hint: the ''Lord of the Flies'' allusion might not be too far off!). And from a teacher point of view, that ''is'' a lesson kids get in school far too often ("nobody cares", plus they have no agency so why bother). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I ask because my goal as an admin is to always be fair. I sincerely hope that I am not playing favorites with any one of them, instead treating them based on their actions and by the way they respond to instructions. So long as they stop squabbling, I'm willing to leave the past in the past, but if they insist on bickering, a certain train is going to be dropped. I like to think I have a good bit of patience, but I admit it's wearing quite thin. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's dot com, you ''define'' fair administration!! Yeah, of course any of the involved parties would bring that accusation (which is explained partly by adolescent developmental psych, a time when you're trying to figure out exactly what your standing in relation to others is), but I'm a witness on this one at least. As far as patience goes, that's one thing that makes me think I might make a good teacher, since I seem to have an unusually high frustration threshhold. But even I've reached it a couple of times just in the past few months of rehearsing unruly orchestras! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== im back! ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i;ve been doing great becasue i was on a 10 day holiday to the gold coast with my family. on the 5/1/06. fantastic. so whats been going on, with you?

Ps:WHats happended to bubsty, when i checked bubsty's user page, all that was written was bye wiki, whats happened?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right—very sad: evidently he's had to quit the wiki for some reason. See his talk page for many expressions of grief at his leaving, several quite eloquent. (I know you ''have'' seen it because you signed it, but I mean higher up.)
:I'm glad you had a nice vacation; it's summer for you, right? I'm in North Carolina, which is kinda southern US, and we've been having a really warm January anyway; last week it was 68° (Farenheit). But tonight it's back below freezing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== looking for an explanation ==

Why did you add the definition for decoupage to "Death Metal"'s "Explanation" section? I realize it starts with "de" and has something to do with glue. Those do not seem like enough to bother including the word in the email's wiki page.
--[[User:209.157.156.126|209.157.156.126]] 10:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; not just those, but because of Taranchula's video (some helpful anonymous IP has just now added the lyrics), ''The Decoupage''. Yeah, if it weren't for that, it would be a seriously unnecessary fact! (By the way, speaking of helpful anonymous IPs, your interest in the accuracy of the article and the fact that you knew and bothered to sign your post are a little unusual in anonymous users; have you ever considered [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|becoming a member]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey sir ==

Thanks about the poster thing. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fractured discussion ==

Hey there. One of the problems with such a multifaceted discussion is that the replies can get a little (or a lot) scattered. So I just wanted to let you know that I have replied to no fewer times than to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Other|your proposal]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Move_existing_ones_to_subpages_and_lock_them|your question here]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Comments|your comments here]], and also [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Oppose|that big long thread]] with Darth Katana X. I would read them all first before replying, as they kinda form one big thought. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

==''thanks, abdi'' 2: Son of ''[[#thanks, abdi|thanks, abdi]]''==
well, thanks to you and dot com, i now have a username. thanks a lot, i will join a lot of commitees. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

by the way, when i was an anonymous user, you said something about how if i am who you think i am, it's important that i take the plunge. i have a brother who is a wiki user, but i am on my own laptop, so it's not like you could match the ip addresses if you thought i was him. so........just who do you think i am? [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:The combination of the fact that you commented on [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]'s talk page and mentioned that someone you knew got blocked suggested that you might know either him or a couple of other users that he had some interaction with. Plus you now say on your user page that he's your brother. If I'm not mistaken, your brother's blockedness is up today or tomorrow; a couple of edits you made to his user page got reverted because we don't really let people (even siblings) edit each others' pages, but he can do them himself then. If he doesn't, bug him to; we have quite a few users who started out getting temporarily blocked and ended up as major contributors (I seem to remember there's some sysop with that story, though I can't find who it is at the moment). I hope your brother and another user who got blocked at the same time do exactly that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is the name you're looking for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks; that was my hunch, but I couldn't verify it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::yeah, now i am unblocked, and i feel great about it. by the way, no, i didn't tell him to do those edits (although he said i did) and he really won't be on that much anymore. this website is too cool for him. plus, he said he just wanted to try it out, y'know? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

wait, why did you change the headline to a familiar joke that's on the tip of my tongue? well, you are a teacher, and i am a caps-hating 11 year old with poor grammar (but good spelling!), so you would know it better than i would. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=246006&oldid=246003 LOL]! Perhaps this might be a sign of archival necessities. Even I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=prev&oldid=218187 have been asked] to archive... and you're at 70! :) Welcome to the wiki [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] and [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]!! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yeltensic&diff=246355&oldid=246350 seriously].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you, stux, but i have been on the wiki since nov. 8. and thank you for the backup on that comment. i just think it should be reworded. also, sice the guestbooks are going soon, please sign mine. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

oh, wait. you already have. thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Lol. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::yeah, if ever evidence that i was an idiot, that was it. ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad you're back, Will; I meant what I said above (and mean it for Ciberdude as well). In answer to your question, I realized that the section heading your brother used originally was the exact same you had used higher on the page, and it confused the browser when it tried to jump to the section. I'm not sure what exactly I'm referencing with the "Son of", other than the stereotypical 30s-monster-movie sequels that get referenced all the time (''Son of Dracula! · Bride of Frankenstein! · Second Cousin Once Removed of Wolfman!''). At least I didn't say ''Electric Boogaloo''. And as for archiving, Stux, despite the recent caving of a prominent holdout, I'm being obstinate. I don't see a particular need to yet, especially since I just recently discovered that ctrl+home and ctrl+end jump to the top or bottom of a page instantly! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I hate to break it to you (ok not really) but lemme tell you a little secret... for web pages, Home and End works just as well! ;) Well, the ball is rollin', I'm sure that circumstances (and pressures ;)) will chage... :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== (Not so) random encouragement for your recent efforts ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've been incredibly busy (like to the point of consecutive all-nighters) for the past week, so I just dropped in and don't know how much I might have missed (though I'm piecing together a picture that involves iPods, sockpuppets, Animal Crossing, and the like. I'm probably going to be similarly sparse for the next week; I don't count on sleeping tonight, anyway! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey there, hope all's going well for you. We miss you when you're not around. I should probably be pulling all-nighters too (and not all-nighter troll fights, like I did Saturday), with the work I have to do. But I'm not. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um, I have 8 words for you: Wow! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ok now that I've made my obligatory short random message, on to the real random message. But i don't have much time to talk so I'll try to be briefer than brief. By um, our standards :). Excellent points on the [[HRWiki_talk:Guestbooks]] article! I like the ideas, though right now I don't have the time nor the imagination to be that creative. Still, I like it. I brings hope in a otherwise tense and (not) hopeless situation. I brings an alternative to a post guestbook-alyptic world. It's the feel good movie -- er I'm getting carried away. But seriously, what I'm trying to say is this: to me there seemed there was much tension that arose with the guestbook situation (and certain events didn't help things), more so than with most issues. Your options and optimism, I think, will help ease those fears and tensions in some of our users. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==We Are The Wiki==
''This is an expansion of an idea from [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities]].'' 
     The recent [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]] phenomenon brought into discussion a tension that has been around for a while. Specifically, many who supported guestbooks felt that HRWiki is, or should be, a place for H*R fans to interact. Others pointed out that it is a "knowledge base," and that its activity should be limited to the upkeep of its content, and pure socializing done in other venues such as the forum. "I'm ... hesitant" about my own position on this issue, and the wording I used in the "Guestbook replacement" suggestions reflects a hope that the wiki's fun (maybe even frivolous?) functions and its documentary function are not mutually exclusive. 
     The fact is, though, some of my suggestions (based on current user practices) toy with a fine and elusive line in [[HRWiki:User space]]. My suggestions included saying hi to other users on their talk pages and featuring content on your user page that provokes responses on your talk page. Now a few quotes from [[HRWiki:User space]] include (emphasis added):
*''Your user talk page is for other users to discuss matters ''related to the Wiki'' with you.
*''Generally, you should avoid any ''substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki''. Examples include ... ''discussion not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki'' ... excessive personal information ... opinion pieces not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki or other non-encyclopedic material...''
     By a strict reading, this could be taken to mean that ''any'' discussion on a Talk page or a User talk page that is not ''directly'' related to a matter of editing is in noncompliance. I'm not going to take the trouble or embarrassment of linking to examples, but I suspect every user here has at some time been party to a discussion that had nothing immediately to do with H*R or the wiki. However, there are several (intentionally) vaguely-defined phrases in there: Just how much is "substantial content"? How much personal information is "excessive"? How much opinion constitutes a "piece"? But the Great Loophole is this line:
*''Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.''
     This, dear friends, is the text of my sermon today. This line expresses—guardedly and with many qualifications—a recognition that certain "not strictly 'on-topic'" behaviors may in fact be not simply permissible but indirectly beneficial. It does not go on to specify what these behaviors "at their worst" might do, but recent events certainly helped us imagine. So it is with great care, my brothers, yea with gravity and trepidation, that we invoke this clause. It is not intended to justify chaos, or to effortlessly nullify the injunctions above it. Yet invoke it I must, and I do so with sobriety and deference. 
     'Nuff preacher-talk. So: what is this clause? Is it a contradiction? Is it a weak concession to the fact that we all chat a little here and there, and it doesn't seem to be killing us? What about that last sentence: "At their best, such activities help us build the community, and this helps us to build the knowledge-base." Do you really believe that, or is it just a pleasant fiction softened by euphemism? What ''is'' this "community" of which we speak so often? 
     (Now, a disclaimer: I don't know a lot about "Wiki" philosophy overall; I've never been involved with Wikipedia and know little of its ideological history. When I say "wiki" I'm speaking specifically of HRWiki, and what I've observed here.) But I'll tell you what I've seen: I've seen people on the Eastern seaboard, the Pacific coast, Texas, Canada, Israel, Australia-by-way-of-Macedonia, and everywhere in between talking, collaborating, and knowing each other's "names" and personalities, not just demographics. I've seen users genuinely broken up over the "departure" of people they've never seen or shaken hands with—which would be odd behavior for a group of cyber-librarians who just happen to be simultaneously working on a database. I've seen users respond to vandal attacks, some of them massive, not with a language of personal injury ("Oh no, what'll ''I'' do?" "Look at all this I've got to revert!"), but calling each other by name and encouraging each other. I've seen users take great pride in their personal contributions, presumably experiencing the joy of accomplishment and becoming incrementally better defended against the paralysis of percieved incompetence. I've seen users engage in heated—often turbulent—disagreement, and learn, albeit by trial and error, how to do so in a civil, productive, and charitable way. 
     Let's step back for a sec. What are you doing? You're sitting on your butt looking at a computer—which is displaying an "opinion piece" about a wiki—which attempts to chronicle and analyze every minutest detail of an internet cartoon—which itself consists of some eccentric and anatomically deficient characters saying a few minutes of funny things on roughly a weekly basis. Is this feeding children in Africa? Is it curing cancer? Is it impacting the policies and actions of national or local governments? Well—hold that thought. My point is: '''what is the ultimate purpose of this wiki?''' Yes, recent discussions have precipitated a restatement that its primary purpose, it's ''raison d'etre'', is to be a knowledge base, documenting H*R cartoons. But its primary purpose does not disallow secondary purposes, and I see its potential for teaching "community" to be a compelling one. If, through this wiki, even one person learns how to work collaboratively with others, to encourage each other's efforts, and above all how do disagree with someone and debate that opinion in an open, respectful, and supportive way, ''and'' if these lessons transfer over into real life, then something much greater has happened than simply transcribing a web cartoon. And it ''could'' very well impact the society and governance of neighborhoods and nations. 
     This brings me to the title of this section. '''We are the wiki.''' The wiki is binary data on a server, yes, but without us it would be static. Furthermore, because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=157523&oldid=157522 the wiki is a liquid], it assumes the contour of its container, the users. If we were replaced with a different set of users, the wiki would become fundamentally different. A gardening model is not adequate for the wiki—we are not groundskeepers, who come in and work on "the wiki"; we ''are'' an integral and vital part of it. If there is an analogy, maybe we're like a good sports play—ahem, sports ''team'': the members of a baseball team all work together on something (the game), but if they all got up and left "the game" wouldn't remain (just a stadium full of very surprised fans). You see what this means? Nearly every user here expresses some desire to "help the wiki," "maintain the wiki," or otherwise contribute to its upkeep and improvement. The most immediate way to do that, certainly, is to edit mainspace articles. But tending to relationships with other users—cultivating them, pruning them, mediating them, and healing them—is every bit as much a way of improving the wiki. 
     On the flipside, that's what's so terrible about [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|true trolls]] (as opposed to vandals): Just as vandals attack the digital, visible fabric of the wiki, trolls attack the relational, social fabric of it. A vandal simply aspires to scrawl a few lines of graffiti; a troll aspires to tear ''us'' apart. Which is more insidiously devestating? A vandal can be reverted and blocked in seconds. The damage of trolling, if accomplished, is far harder to repair. So if you consider yourself a "troll fighter," take a deep breath and a look in the mirror before replying hastily to another user: when you damage a relationship, ''you'' are the troll. And keep in mind that, unlike the many defensive tools we have against vandalism, our ''only'' defense against this vulnerability is the intentional, calculating, untiring maintenance of our "community" ties—in other words, working specifically on "being friends." 
     This is where the last phrase of that Loophole gets its justification. "Building the community" does ''indeed'' "help to build the knowledge base." It defends and perpetuates it, and gives it a greater excuse for existing than the Flash-based antics of an Internet phenomenon. And for that reason there ''is'' an excuse for User talk content to go beyond "What's up with this edit?" and "Please delete a personal pic." ''As long as'' the activity is kept within reasonable bounds, and does ''not'' in fact impede the wiki's primary functioning—and ''if'' it is ''meaningfully effective'' at building relatinships—then it is not simply irrelevent frivolity; it is in fact... the Work of the Wiki. 
     Whew! That was long! If you just read all that, thanks and I'm sorry! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Don't be sorry. What you wrote was true to the deepest. '''We''' are the Wiki. You, me, the gnomes, the admins, the fanstuffers, the forumers, the developers, those who left, those who lurk, those that always complain that they spend too much time on "Dumb animal characters". '''We''' are all part of this, and I know it sounds like a cliché, but we must continue joining together for a common couse. It's hard to write as long as you do, but I just want to say: '''Thank you HRWiki.''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::You just said exactly what I've wanted to say ever since I joined this Wiki. At the risk of sounding like a complete nerd, I truly have to say that the friendships I've built on this Wiki are better than some of my friendships in real life. What I love about this Wiki is that you feel this sense of community that is hard to feel on other HUGE wikis like Wikipedia. Everyone knows each other, everyone participates in discussions, and everyone here has one thing in common: Homestar Runner. Thank you AbdiViklas. Thank you to everyone working on this Wiki, for you are not really working on the Wiki, '''You are the Wiki itself.''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That was by far the smartest thing I have ever heard. Like has matt, That's what I have been so afraid to say all along. It's so, so true. Amazing. You, sir, are in the skys, in the empire of great writers like Jack London, and pretty much everyone who has inspired me. Thank you. {{User: Seriously/sig}}

== Personal Images ==

I draw you attention to [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images|Sir Strong Bad's]] talk page where you offered to take one of Sir Strong Bad's personal images for your own so that he will be in compliance with the image policy. Please choose one of the following images and claim as your own if you have an image slot to spair by inserting your name into the <nowiki>{{personal-image|Sir Strong Bad}}</nowiki> tag:
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d0/SSB%27s_Gang.gif SSB's_Gang.gif] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/be/SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/24/B_and_W_Swedish_Fish.jpg B and W Swedish Fish.jpg] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/0/0c/Macedonia_B_and_W.jpg Macedonia B and W.jpg] </s>
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Homsar_Old_timey_bandit.PNG Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/9/91/homestaryodlebw.PNG homestaryodlebw.PNG] </s>

I show that you have 2 empty personal image slot. Thanks, have a great day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
:I took the fish. I would have sooner, but I wasn't sure whether it required anything more elaborate than changing the template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Kaption Kontest ==
Yeah, could I follow the rules by making it on my [[User:Seriously/old captions|Archive]]? Also, I strongly disagree with this rule when it's only a bit of fun. There is no con to people editing my userpage; unless it's the ever-hated guestbook signing or vandalizing (obviously.) I would like you to consider letting me keep it as it presents no immediate harm. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, why havn't you been on? I miss seeing comments with 100 lines just to fit your ideas. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL; because the 100 lines have been going into school-related activities. I was far more active in December and January since I had less work. Expect higher involvement in March, declining in April, and nearly non in mid-May, with a sudden spike around the last week. And a 60% chance of rain.
::Now then, about the captions: I guess it's not a hard-'n'-fast ''rule'' per se at the moment, and it's certainly not a matter of ''making'' you move it. What we ''do'' have in the way of suggestions on the topic: It's dot com says in [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities|HRWiki talk:Guestbooks]], "Please note that you should not encourage people to edit your user page, for any reason." [[HRWiki:User space#What can I have on my user page?|HRWiki:User space]] says "In general, avoid editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct any linking errors that might confuse readers. However, some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect." This clearly means that non-owner edits aren't ''completely'' forbidden. It also hints at a possibility that the owner could encourage the edits of others, though from context and when it was written, I imagine it means an invitation to feel free to correct mistakes or improve content (for instance, [[User:FireLily]], [[User:Ppk01#Japanese_Character_Names]], or [[User:Thechamp#Links_and_stuff]]). That would probably result in much less frequent non-owner editing than a recurring feature. So yeah, I'm certainly not "making" you move it, but I still suggest it. Kinda using your argument against you, what would it hurt? Well... I suppose even if you kept the image and an "edit!" link on your user pages, the captions wouldn't be with it. I was thinking there might be some way, via [[Wikipedia:Transclusion|Transclusion]], to keep the content elsewhere, have users edit elsewhere, but have it show up on your user page. I did a test in the sandbox that seemed like that didn't work, but I haven't given up on it yet. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Update: I wasn't able to get transclusion to work in my brief test. I tried putting <nowiki>{{User:AbdiViklas/welcome}}</nowiki> here, as my only subpage, and as expected it appeared. Then I went and edited the original welcome subpage and saved, but the edit didn't appear here on refresh. I'll have to submit this to those who know more about how this place works. '''Attention: 'elp!''' Is live transclusion (including updates being reflected) only for the Template namespace? Or did my test not work because the changes take more than a few seconds to propagate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Regarding transclusion: give it another go, but this time instead of a browser refresh, give the page an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&action=purge action=purge]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Cool. But I was just now trying it with [[HRFWiki:Sandbox]], since It's dot com asked that the contest be moved to Fanstuff, and I guess transclusion doesn't work interwiki? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Nope, no interwiki transclusion. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Ach wohl. (For Heimstern's benefit!) So I guess, unless It's dot com's cool with it being on a subpage, the best you can do is put the image and a link on your user page. You could of course update it manually when someone adds to it over at Fanstuff. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me. ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wow; congratulations! I've got a couple of awards [[#GVBAoA|higher up on this page]], but not pizza-based! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Pizza's always better. It also feels good that this trophy is actually taken seriously, as it seems it means much more to users than I thought it did. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Google fight? ==

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/TheKookyOne/googlefight_kooky_abdi.png 
Well, you've beat me again, comrade! ''(Though, I must wonder, what 22,500 people would want to look us up so bad?)'' =P I'm just stopping by to say hi, considering it's been a while since I was around here. How've things been? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Egad—and just browsing the first few pages of those results ''are'' all posts of mine on here (plus a few on various tech support boards)! Is it really possible that I've made over <s>11,000</s> eleventyhundred edits? I'm not sure whether that's an accomplishment or a monumental squandering of time! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd lean towards "monumental squandering". Except I'm only 300 results behind you. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::: Yeah, well, I beat both of you ''combined''! 'Course it helps that my user name is an English word... :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah that's cuz you [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Jay cheated] :-p (at 157,000,000). For non common names I have Abdi and Kookyk [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Stux beat]: 287,000 to 14,100. But the ultimate winner has to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=It%27s+dot+com&word2=Stux Dot com]: weighin in at 501,000. Not to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Tom&word2=Jay outdone], Jay is easily outclassed by Tom at a whopping 539,000,000. Congratulbalatitaitions Tom! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::But Stux is a Linux program, isn't it? So most of those hits are not you. I get 26,500 hits, and you can guarantee they're all me! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Aw, I'm only at 1190 ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''EDC:''' Well... yeah (I'm surprised that you even know about it! I just learned that it existed today!) but I don't mind counting an OS named after me! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Mine is 239,000,000. That's just awesome. But what did I do to get so much? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Probably the fact that like Stux, Jay, and Tom, your username is also a word (and in your case, a common noun) that Google would find in other contexts. What's entertaining is pitting two [[Wikipedia:Egosurfer|ego-surfs]] against each other; for instance, my brother's name beats mine handily, despite the fact that I actually have a "real" entry (i.e. related to me) in the second page of my Google results, whereas his are all about some middle school and a guy who got the Victoria Cross. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Hey Abdi. It is my pleasure to announce that you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges and responsibilities. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. May you always use your powers for good and for awesome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Great jorb Abdi. You've deserved it all to much {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, congratulations. ^-^ Keep on doin' great things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Congratulations man! notstrongorbad just became a bit stronger, but still not badder. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Abdi. My main man. My ace in the hole. Well, a few months ago I would never have thought I'd beat you to sysophood, even by one day. Man, music grad students as sysops? Can the wiki '''handle this??!!''' Anyway, glad you're on board. Oh, and I still hope for Homestravinky Runner to be realised someday. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congradulations, AbdiViklas, AKA Notstrongnorbad, AKA Professor Tor Coolguy. Your devotion to the project and your long esseys about the site are the glue that keeps us together. You brought happiness and tolarance to the wiki in your own special way. You deserve this promotion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:Everyone, didn't I say this would happen? Huh? You and Lapper? In IRC? With excessive question marks? Hey, congrats. You're a great user, Abdi! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::From the minute you welcomed me, I knew you had syop potential. You're a truly great user, man. I'm glad this has finally happened to you. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::And two more. Does this mean I have to come up with more H*R-themed "congrats"? Uh... Oh, well, congratulations! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Congratulations! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well! For the longest time, I had thought you were a sysop - you welcomed me (and it wasn't until later that I realized you didn't have to be a sysop to do that), and you've always made outstanding edits to the wiki. I've certainly enjoyed working on this wiki with you and the rest of the gang <s>up here at Possum Lodge</s> - you're administra-awesome! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:Congrats, Abdi. I wasn't in on the decision (I wasn't back from hiatus until yesterday), but you'll be a great asset to our sysop team. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

'''OSCAR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH:''' Thank you—thank you all—<sob> ... so very much... Seriously, I appreciate youse guys' appreciation and encouragement; you're all swell gents (and... gentesses?). If you haven't noticed, I haven't been around so much lately; my school time requirements have been a lot higher since the beginning of February than they were before. But I still intend to show up ''at least'' once a week or so, and like all things, this crunch shall pass. So, until I poke my nose in again, Chins up! Tifle down! And so on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas (2) ==

How are you, anything happen to you recently?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'll say! In just the past week I: 1) Got a new dual-chip [http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn laptop computer] (with a coupon, got one worth $2,800 for $2,000), 2) got into a wreck—don't worry, I wasn't hurt at all and neither was anybody else—but my car was totalled and now I have to find a new one, and 3) was made a sysop! (And 4, made some Jambalaya. But it was already a day after Mardi Gras, so as a tribute to New Orleans it was a little late.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry about your car. Although it's still pretty awesome you were maqde a sysop, so that helps a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== You no old, man! ==

Since when is being over twenty-five old? An emcee that age would be considered very young. You're not old until you start ''acting'' old in my opinion. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Well, ''I'' feel old. I think it's when you ''feel'' old that it counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, considering that I routinely act about 16, I guess you've got a point, Darth. (That can be a little problematic when trying to ''teach'' 16-year-olds; I keep getting into discussions about Inuyasha...) But it does mean something when your closest friends stop saying things like "So where are we going tonight?" and start saying things like "So good to hear from you! Remind me of your phone number; I seem to have lost it." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::You sound like my mom. She's a teacher, too. Only, my mom likes ''Halo'' more than ''Inuyasha''. She, like, walks right past the bad guys and they don't even notice. She's also smart like you, too. My mom actually liked screamo metal rock before I did, and I started liking it because she listened to it all the time. And Dorian, I feel old all the time, but not right now because I'm on a sugar high...and I feel so alive...for the very first time...and if I have any more cookies I'll probably get so hyper I'll fly, fly (only P.O.D. nerds will get that). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== totally kill all imposters! ==

Hmmmmm... I have no idea how that happenned. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Ed smildE|Ed smilde]]/[[User talk:Ed smildE|talk]]

== Happy easter ==

Hello abdiviklas how are, how's easter (If you celebrate it?)?

What have you been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hi! My Easter was great; I spent most of the morning playing my violin in church (which isn't exactly like most churches' Easter service; our worship leader is a former R&B guitarist from Alabama, so my playing style in church is less classical and more a mix of Dave-Mathews-type rock and old-timey Appalachian-type sounds). I spent most of the rest of the day working on my taxes (which are due today) and making [http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipes/meat-poultry/greekmeatballs-cb.html "Greek" meatballs] (except I mixed ground lamb with the beef) with [http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/indian/00/rec0055.html cucumber raita]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::Glad to hear it. Let's hope the rest of the year is as kind. (And maybe with a little bit less tax mess. =p) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Hey, just to let you know... ==

Wiki grrl is my best friend. Pardon her grammer; she'll correct it. I told her about homestar a long time ago and now she finally created an account here. The "bug swallow" thing on her userpage is because one of her favorite quotes from here is the whole routine Homestar goes through when he swallows a bug in Bug In Mouth Disease. Just thought you might want to know. And don't ask about PEP. I can't tell you. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 21:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. I love it when people who know each other in "real life" are on the wiki. And I'm glad she finds [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] funny; I have a hard time doing so. I try, I really try, on a regular basis, but each time I come to the end of the toon feeling a little dissapointed. Funny how one person's favorite can be another's least favorite and vice versa! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

==Typo==
Holy cow. Thank you a hecka ton for catching that spelling mistake. I ment to say "Marzipan was originally intended to be Homestar's '''''girl'''''friend." Thanx for catching that. Now, should I post the revised fact somewhere on the page? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 20:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:My gut says no. The same thing is already said more fully at [[Marzipan]], but there it's speaking of character depth (i.e. just there as a "Homestar accessory"). Putting it in an article about their relationship and wording it as "originally intended to be" makes it sound like she isn't anymore. And I've known people with ''way'' more off-and-on relationships than Homestar and Marzipan who would still refer to each other as "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings and explanations ==

First off, thanks for streamlining the not-for-profit thing on the [[space program]] article. Your edit was what I thought of doing in the first place, but I thought it might be a bit presumptuous. After seeing someone else do it, I realize I was worrying about nothing.

Second, in response to the comment you affixed to a recent edit of [[band names]], Aerosmith is a misspelling of "arrowsmith", old term for someone who specialized in making arrows. When MTV did a 10th anniversary special, Mel Gibson did a segment introducing the band Aerosmith, and the segment started off with him making an arrow the old-fashioned way, with a big hammer and stuff, and as he was admiring his handiwork, he acted as if someone off-camera was talking to him and said "what? oh, the ''band'' Aerosmith? oh..." I hadn't actually heard the word before that, and I researched it and discovered that that's actually where the band got their name. It's a fairly obscure term these days, so it's not really a surprise that many people don't know the word (and the wing motif on their album covers coinciding with the "aero" prefix just confuses things even more). - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 10:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you learn something new every day! Especially my first thought for "someone who makes arrows" is "[http://www.tfd.com/Fletcher fletcher]". It was a little hard to track down, but [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Arrowsmith arrowsmith] does appear to be legit, though. (Nonetheless it's still a good candidate for the "two will do" principle; otherwise why not add Boyz II Men, Korn, Weezer, the Beetles, or the zillions of "ska"-derived names?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
== Yeah, Music Ed. Majors! ==
Hey! Thanks for the post on my talk page, I think it's always awesome to meet other musicians. The world doesn't have enough of us these days - at least, not enough good ones. Hillary Duff and Brittany Spears don't come close to counting! What's really awesome is that you studied at one of my top choices for Graduate school. (I'm getting my Masters and Doctorate Degrees in Performance, and Eastman has quite a track record in the trumpet world!) I'm also looking at Northwestern, CCM, Juliard, and DePaul, in no particular order. It's also nice to know that there are other Music people who waste as much time on this as I do, and likely more... {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 03:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strike! ==

I agree w/ you on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=senior_prom&curid=23493&diff=320901&oldid=320874&rcid=269236&hrwiki_mwiki6_session=a5568b8e1e114a5b647cdfc23672fe28 senior prom edit], but could you post what you summarized in the [[Talk:senior prom#Summary/Relevance|talk discussion]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== (No subject) ==

6 days 'go responded to that on my talk page case you wanted to look at that. I'm starting to sound like Strong Sad here...

Yoshi minus nothing 05:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Eating The Cheat ==

I think the line about eating The Cheat comes from [[narrator]] where Strong Bad says "surprised Strong Mad hasn't eaten The Cheat already", or something to that effect. Don't you love how someone can find an answer to a question so fast around this place? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm glad you can! Several "site:" searches in Google failed to do it for me. Of course I was searching for "eat", not "eaten", which explains it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::I have some sort of urge to make a joke about "eat or be eaten", but I can't think of the wording... Hmm... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== How Do You Do It? ==

AdbiViklas, How do you do it? The long essay-like answers to questions others dare not ask. Your likely answer to this question will be, "It come naturally when your older!" But after further speculation I realized your one of the most astoundingly literate and brilliant people I have ever met. Such brain power is often looked over where I live sadly, but I see that you and a lot of people on this wiki are smart and really deserve to be recognized. Thank you for you time, {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, anything happen to you recently? Anyway, what have been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:Mostly looking for jobs. I'll be graduating in a week, and want to go ahead and be teaching by the start of the school year. The problem is there aren't that many schools that have orchestra programs and no teacher. There's one about a 45-minute drive from me, and a couple others about a 3-hour drive from me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== You're in Durham? ==

I'm in Clayton, less than an hour from you. I'll be in Durham on tuesday, going to a Bulls game. Later this summer, I'm moving to Laurinburg, though.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Ha! How about that? Yeah, Bull games are fun. I should go now that I'm done with school (and before I start again on the teaching end of it!). Minor leage baseball is the way to go: you can get in for roughly the cost of a movie, sit close enough that you can actually ''see'' the players as something other than moving dots, and there's always the $1 concessions days or fireworks shows afterward. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, my team is usually the Mudcats. Anyway, Charlotte murdered them, 7-0.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey, I was ''at'' that game! Yeah, my dad works for the [http://www.heraldsun.com Herald-Sun], and had four passes, so he just called me up that afternoon. It was kind of hard to get into the game when we never scored a run, but hey, I had a bratwurst and a bag of peanuts, and that's what really matters. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

::::No kidding? Both my parents work for the [http://www.newsobserver.com N&O].--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heh; I'm just finishing up a year's subscription to them. It would always have seemed a little traitorous before, but since the Herald-Sun was taken over by some outside company and became a lousy place to work, it was okay. Actually, as of this week, my Dad ended his 10 or so years at the paper and is now an editor at, of all things, a magazine for accountants. Yeah, N&O rocks. Sadly, since I'm moving to Fayetteville, I'll be missing it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I'm pretty sure you can still get the N&O in Fayetteville. My Dad grew up there, and that's where my parents met, at the Fayetteville Observer. Oddly enough, Laurinburg is less than an hour from there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Cool; maybe I should look into extending my subscription. I'll actually be renting a sweet, sweet house in Stedman, pop. 600, about 10 minutes' drive east of Fayetteville. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Slowly Going the Way of an MxPx Reference ==

When you said that thing about guestbooks "slowly going the way of the buffalo or MxPx" months ago, I didn't get it. Well, my mom and dad came back from dinner a couple of days ago and my mom had bought me an MxPx disc...guess which one? ;) Now I get it. Man...how come you're cooler than me? LOL.

It's a ''really'' good album, too. "Tomorrow's Another Day" is an awesome song. Oh yeah, and did you ever hear MxPx's cover of "Drum Machine Joy" by Joy Electric? I'm hunting down that EP right now just for that one song! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:LOL; maybe I know about these things because that album came out when I was in high school. I had a friend who was very indie/punk/underground-oriented; he introduced me to Sixpence (which at the time had more the connotation of Whitestripes and less... well, the romantic-comedy-soundtrack staple they became), Five Iron, Joy Electric, Echoing Green, and other much more obscure and long-forgotten quirky groups, while I introduced him to Shostakovich and other kick-butt classical music. In an interesting twist of fate, he's now a drummer in Chapel Hill's healthy indie scene, taking lessons from his childhood idol, Sixpence drummer Dale Baker, who now has a [http://www.newsobserver.com/697/story/454402.html second life as a father and Montessori preschool teacher in my town]. But no, aside from the tracks on ''8-Ball'' samplers, I never heard that much of Joy Electric or MxPx. Five Iron and (yes, I admit) Reliant K are my ska/punk of choice, and I don't really go beyond them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

::Cool! :) By the way, the lead singer of Sixpence is doing a [http://www.leighnash.com/ solo project] which looks pretty interesting. I'll keep you updated on how that's going. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== After a hefty hiatus... ==

I, {{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}, RETURN to the electronically communicating world of '''2007!''' '''Stop'''

My blasted '''Telly 400''' was swiped from the very comfort of my domecile, and upon it's return.. '''Stop'''

I was shocked to realize that the bloody roustabanks had cut off her '''little toe'''!!! '''Stop'''

What was one to do without the comma key!? '''Stop'''

I had no choice but to begin a quest... or.. send The Sneak.. on a worldwide search for my beloved Telly's little toe! '''Stop'''

To my great delight, it was returned and I can once again begin heckling the inhabitants of the '''post-modern Free Country USA!!''' '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== An electronic request ==

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  10:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC) 
 
Dear Sir Viklas STOP 

I wish to inform you that some of our gang members have left the Wiki! STOP 

I would like to ask you for somewhat of a favor if you feel up to it. STOP 

 
Dapperly yours,

Sir Strong Bad
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== Not an active thread... ==

...but nevertheless it is nice to know that somebody still visits my page! And yes, obviously I do too. Dang, I guess I need a little bit of an update, don't I? I did the whole public school teaching thing for a year, and the short version is I found out I'm not a good enough "disciplinarian" to do it well, and really don't think I'd be happy even if I were. Basically I had time to eat and sleep—no, wait, just to sleep—well, not like every night, you know.... So my wikitivity was pretty limited. Since then, I've gone back to teaching one person at a time, and am much happier. I'm even teaching some freshmen at a well-known university that starts with a "D" and rhymes with "puke".... But I'm still pretty much as busy (it's just okay, because it's busy for my own stuff instead of things I'm forced to do), and don't really expect my activity to go much beyond logging on once a Monday update's brouhaha has died down and fixing anything I might notice. But I just want all y'all to know I'm still around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, here's another ex-teacher who left it - my reason is that I had to make administrators happy before I made kids smart. Not the order of operations in my manual. Anyway, glad you are still around and take care of business. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
And another update: On Christmas Eve I got engaged! Sadly, my fiancée is Homestar-illiterate. As you can imagine, that won't last long. Also, Heimstern might be interested to know that I'm thinking about a DMA... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:Congrats, dude! Abdi may be interested to know that... well, I burned out on my PhD and am not pursuing it anymore. Maybe someday, but not now. At least I got out with that M.A. signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger (interesting thing that happens when you graduate from the University of California). So, I'm not in school anymore, which I think is for the best. If you do decide on getting a DMA, I've no doubt you'll have a great experience. Has fun! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hey Abdi! Long time no see! Congratulations on the engagement! I also wish you the best in your DMA (should you choose to pursue it). On my end, my PhD and MS pursuits are also on hold. If you have time, you should swing by [[HRW:IRC|IRC]] sometime! Cheers! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Is my signature too big to fit the Wiki's guidelines? Thanks!

{{User:Evershiner/sig}} 23:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Evershiner: It looks okay to me!
:{{sigbox|User:Evershiner/sig}}
:Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks! I'm guessing its a tad too big, but I don't think that will make a big difference. Hope not! If any of you think I can't get away with it, please let me know! Thanks so much!

== Baby daddy ==

Combolations! How great for you and Mrs. Viklas! (I'm assuming it is she who'll be doing most of the work.) Do you konw the sex? I'm guessing girl. Keep us updated, and don't be such a stranger! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:No, it's just 9 weeks along. At 19 weeks, though, I definitely want to spring for the [[Wikipedia:3D ultrasound|3D ultrasound]]! And yeah, somehow we both have a hunch it's a girl... just a hunch. — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Abdi! What up man? Congratulations on the soon-to-be mini-Abdi! I'm sure he or she will be a very healthy baby! Good to see your doing well. Feel free to swing by IRC if you have free time. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh: It's a girl!! (We'll resist the temptation to name her What's Her Face. I'm not sure the grandparents would approve.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::My guess was right! Combolations! You should name her Elizagerth. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, yeah, Elizabeth Anne! Hm... guess who might have just gotten a new nickname... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, man! Congratulations on the new baby, wife, degree, life, and all the other things you recently updated on your user page. I don't know how seeing you name on the recent Cheat Commandos toon talk page brought a smile to my face. How have you been? I myself haven't edited the wiki in also a long time, so I just lurk around. Glad to see an old friend return to visit once more! (My last year or so can be summed up [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AE.L._Cool&diff=647851&oldid=550294 here], if you're interested.) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude. If March 19th was 9 weeks, that would make this week about 40 weeks. News? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, somebody gets their merit badge in stayin-on-top-of-things! Yes, due date is Friday, and no, she's still hiding! Any day now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::Just went through that myself as my youngest is now just a month old. Congrats. Get plenty of rest! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Update? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::At the hospital now! The baby girl is taking her sweet time. We wanted to avoid induction, but it's start to look like it might be necessary... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

== Looking for advice ==

Hi, I've had this account for a while, but I've never really used it. When I joined, you sent a welcome message on my talk page, so now I thought I'd seek your advice on something.
I had an idea for a page and don't know whether or not it's notable enough: Noses. It seems to be a running gag, what with several toons mentioning them specifically, and many characters lacking them. I don't know how many examples I need for it to be a viable page in it's own right. Any advice on this would help. Thanks --[[User:DoctorWorm|DoctorWorm]] 10:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:Gee, I'd never noticed just how much there ''is'' about noses until I searched for them just now! Still, I think that's covered in [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]], both in the sections on "Strong Bad's Nose" and "Other" (Marzipan's nose job). Nice to see you back around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

User talk:AbdiViklas

AbdiViklas — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:40:51 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Baby daddy */new toon (er, baby) soon!

=='''Explanatory note'''==
On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from '''notstrongorbad''' to '''AbdiViklas'''. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

==Toolbox==
For my use and whoever else finds it helpful:
*[[Wikipedia:List of XML and HTML character entity references|HTML character references]]
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thanks abdi--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 14:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Welcome! You've Got Mail ==
Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

=== Petition ===
We, the undersigned, do beleive it <strike>would be</strike> ''is'' very cool to see a [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] user page. ''Moreover, we sincerely thank ''notstrongorbad'' for writing such an amazing user page!'' (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC) ''KL''
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
*{{User:The Paper/sig}}
*{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}
*[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]
*— {{User:Lapper/sig}}
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=== Yay! ===
I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
::LOL. Nice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Can you help me? ==

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai
:     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; [[Help:Contents|Help]] is mostly on ''how'' to do things, [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] more on ''what'' to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at [[Help:Contents#Specific Help]]. 
:     But to answer your question: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in [[Talk:geddup noise|that email's Talk page]], and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into [[Template:STUFF/geddup noise|Stuff]], using the process described in [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference]] is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know. 
:     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in [[do over]], there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible [[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29|Family Guy reference]]. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|continue the debate]]. 
:     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape. 
:     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on [[guitar]]. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Tha Lyrical Flow==
Hey, '''notstrongorbad''', just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the ''same time''? Can it be ''done''? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), ''no'' talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called '''grad school''' (imagine [[origins|jittery green text]] plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? '''No one knows when to come in.'''") 
:     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::'''nsob''', I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of [[Wikipedia:The Descendents|The Descendents]] and the [[Wikipedia:Dead Kennedys|Dead Kennedys]], so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in [[comic]] for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, ''much'' easier to deal with than an actual drummer.

:::For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, [[Wikipedia: The Alkaline Trio|The Alkaline Trio]], except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator ''so'' authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::'''Abdi''' - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., ''prima donnas''), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

:::::nice. just nice. next there'll be a guitar that gets hangovers and doesn't even ''show up'' for practice. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Heimstern responds! ==
Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==New name==
Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::That better? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw [[HRWiki:Changing username|Changing username]] after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from Schuminweb ==

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. [[User:Schuminweb|Schuminweb]] 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalization... It used to be so coooool... ==

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! ''{said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Rant re TGS 10 ==
''{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}'' 
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking [[Talk:geddup_noise#Rant_Re:_Reality|at length]]. I can feel it coming. 
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction ''within'' the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in [[comic]], it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices). 
     ''On the other hand'', several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—'''now'''—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself ''into'' the interior fiction, then causes his representation ''in that world'' to interact with its characters, then interacts ''himself'' across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees. 
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the ''first'' time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact '''not''' Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF nuances==
Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a ''huge'' problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC chatroom]] sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. How are ya? When there's more than one STUFF revision, it's not necessary for you to completely move your vote. You should just decline one revision and accept the other. (You could also decline more than one revision, should you choose.) When one of the votes is close, it's actually better if you don't remove yours from the list. The only thing that isn't currently allowed is for someone to ''accept'' more than one revision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you for the welcome. ==

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--[[user:Kookykman|The Kooky One]][[User talk:Kookykman|(talk)]] 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Note to Self ==

Cheat talk standardized through Puppet Time. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Pages that need serious work, or completion, if I (or anbody else for that matter) happen to be bored:'''
*[[Happy Trogday]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit Visuals]]
*[[Ballad of The Sneak#DVD Version]]

'''Issues to check in on from time to time:'''
*[[Mellow Mushroom/The Sun Almost Rises]]
*stripe-ed etc.
*teenage variations

== Duffrence ==

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

:If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read [[HRWiki:User space]]. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

:Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.

== slight mistake ==
Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto [[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82's]] talk page.—[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::None at all. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Dude... ==

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was ''our'' Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07!
--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/ fanstuff wiki]? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner
:Cool. Yeah, I ''used'' the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Five tildes makes the date? 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC) FIle that under "Things I Didn't Know About MediaWiki"! Anyhoo, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm somewhat active on Wikipedia, so I know my way around a wiki. I came here for a bit of fun ;) {{User:Thetorpedodog/SIG}} 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's how I separated my name from the date on my welcome template! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks AbdiViklas! (just so you know, I was the one who created the real-world references for DVD version on [[garage sale]], but if you look in recent changes it shows an IP) I realized you left me a welcome message on my talk page (I am on2see, I can't get Firefox to remember wiki cookies (any help appreciated)) Thanks again! [[User:On2see|On2see]]
:Glad you got a username! Now then—you mean you're having a problem staying logged in because Firefox won't use the cookies? (And by the way, brownie points and good karma to ya for using Firefox!) For me, if I go to the '''Tools''' menu, then '''Options''', then the '''Privacy''' tab, I find the controls for cookies. My settings are "allow sites to set cookies," "for the originating site only," and keep "til they expire," and it seems to work fine for me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I changed my settings, but now on some pages it shows I am logged in (ex. on the page that shows right after I log in) and, well, ''sometimes not...'' (ex. right now as I am editing your talk page, it shows my ip address and also says '''create an account or log in'''... But thanks for the quick response! You're my favorite Wikipedian (really!) Thanks, [[User:on2see|on2see]]
:::Thanks! But what you're experiencing is still odd, and it would be nice to get it tracked down. One other thing: when I sign in, I usually select the "remember me" checkbox (since I'm using my own computer in my own apartment); if I hadn't, I'd need to sign in each time I re-open my browser. If you're using a private computer you might try that. Beyond that, you'll need the help of those who know more about these superboxes than I do, to figure out why your cookies are crumbling. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad = Marzipan ==

Hey Abdi! Yeah, I originally heard the song say "Strong Bad ''is'' Marzipan" also... I, too, thought that was weirder than weird. So, you're not alone. Crapfully yours, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC) ''{comment continued in next thread}''

== T-shirt pitches==
Hey, as a theory type, I was just muddling over whether there were any rhyme or reason to the pitches selected for the t-shirts in the store? I was on the verge of doing a set analysis, but somehow my sense of perspective must have put in an unwonted appearance. I mean, it's probably just Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic--but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to accidentally fit some complicated explanation! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:I wondered that myself. For awhile, I thought it was a whole tone scale, but I found that wasn't correct. So, after reading your question, I decided to use my theory chops (and that neat little trick called absolute pitch) to find out what it is. Here's what I got: A-B-C#-D#-F#-G#-A#-C-C#-D-Eb-F-G-Bb. So, there are some whole-tone segments, but it's certainly not entirely whole tone. Not to mention that I swear a few of them are some kind of quarter tone. I can't really find any good pattern for it at all (if only it had been octatonic! A little Homestravinsky Runner!) Geez, the other, normal, non-music-nerd people on the Wiki are going to have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Anyway, that's the answer I've got for your question. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::LOL!! Homestravinsky Runner—''there's'' something for Fanstuff. (How 'bout what would have happened if, instead of They Might Be Giants, they had outsourced [[different town]] to, say, Philip Glass? "''Towanisqatsi'': You'll Think You're Pea-Buried Alive!") But I'm going with the "Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic" analysis. (Though more interesting—perhaps venturing into psychoacoustics?—would be what intervallic structure, invented or otherwise, may have subconsciously influenced his output?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know where this fits into the discussion, but I think they recorded the sound once and then modulated it up and/or down. Other than the pitch, the sound effect is uniform from one T-shirt to the next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hm—true. Which would actually make it ''more'' likely that the resulting pitches are intentional. Hm. On closer inspection (and note, we're talking about the lineup in [[Flash Store]] here), I hear the last pitches from D through G a half step higher than you (Bb I hear the same). If this were true, and it were reduced into prime form—crap, it still wouldn't be chromatic. I'm not taking the time to think through this very carefully, but I ''think'' prime form would be G#-A-A#-B-C-C#-D#-E-F#. This would be chromatic for the span of a perfect fourth and octatonic for another perfect fourth; there, that makes as good a sense as any. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::: "Rondleman is my D-S-C-H!" Abdi, that is, IMHO, ''at least'' as good as Homestravinsky Runner! You crack me up! Crack! me! up! As for the pitches, you may be right (one thing that was driving me crazy was that a lot of them sounded like they were between two semitones). It's as good a theory as any. This has to be one of the weirdest intersections of Homestar Runner addiction and music nerdiness ever to appear on the Wiki... it's awesome. Maybe I should suggest that the other Homestar fans at my department read this. They'd probably think I've been smoking something. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, in particular that D and/or D# for the TGS shirt. If we take that to be a D, it gets even cooler: chromatic G#-D, one tritone; whole-tone D-G# (by implication), the remaining tritone!! (And yes... there needs to be a Trogdorcon-style segment of Strong Bad making fun of anybody who'd do what we just did.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So, I just found out that I wasn't even looking at the same set of pitches as you. I didn't realize the T-shirt pitches even existed in the new store and was using the old store t-shirt pitches. So, there may be a bit of difference because of that (notably, the old store had more pitches). That being said, I'm a little busy reading ''Stravinsky and the Rite of Spring'' right now to make any comparisons between the collections (although Prof. van den Toorn might be pleased if I found some octatonic/diatonic intersections in the collections...) Anyway, as always, I remain, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:No, I realized we were talking about the [[Flash Store]] when you cited 14 pitches, and my comments above have been in connection to them. I would guess that, even ''if'' there was a musical motivation in their pitch-shifting decisions for the 14-shirt lineup, the pitches that exist in the current store are simply a result of which t-shirts have been dropped. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== arguments??? ==

I don't give arguments to back up my edits!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:Oh. If you're talking about my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stephen923&diff=175892&oldid=169416 post on your talk page] about [[pizzaz]], then no, I don't normally post to people's talk pages when I edit either. In this case, though, you had already made the edit and I had reverted it several times, so I thought explaining myself might have been better than reverting at each other in silence. Incidentally, since then, I noticed somebody else (I forget who, but I think a sysop) put a "sic" in an html comment (<nowiki></nowiki>), saying he didn't like seeing them in the transcript. So your edit was actually a good one (although we should still put it in a comment). Unfortunately—since you ''don't'' give arguments to back up your edits, even by using the "Summary:" box, all I could tell was that you didn't know what ''sic'' means. Perhaps next time an edit summary would be helpful. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, it's about the Marshie history page.--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
::I see. Still, [[HRWiki:Standards#Always use the Summary box|using the summary box]] is a good idea. (Actually, more than just a good idea.) If you make an edit, you probably have a reason for doing so; explaining that reason might make others less likely to revert it, or at least let them know you're making thoughtful edits and not just trolling. (Getting a user name helps in the same way; props in that regard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Um...was this suppossed to be for me? That's what it says...if this is about the edits I have made with no summary, it was because I accidentally clicked "save page" before putting in the summary. -[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::No no, sorry 'bout that; I confused the two "S" people who posted on my page today. I was talking to [[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]. (And you don't have to tell me about the perils of clicking "Save page" too early; I need to learn to use "Show preview" more often. Then I'd have fewer consecutive edits where I correct my own spelling or add periods. And less crushed spirits, too!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::::From the Marshie history page, ''(Reverted edit of 24.24.226.13, who perhaps will give us some argument to back up his edit, and changed back to last version by DorianGray)''--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:::::Yes, I know what you're talking about. My reply is four paragraphs above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ooooooops!!! ==

I guess I should have looked the word "pronunciation" up in a dictionary before i changed it...sorry about that!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:S'cool! By the way, if you're using Firefox (if you're not... '''do!'''), there's a nice plugin called DictionarySearch that lets you right click on a word and look it up instantly in a dictionary. (I also used Firefox's "keyword search" function on www.m-w.com's search box, so I can just type, say, "mw pronunciation" into the address bar and go straight to the definition. Just two more examples of why Life Is Better With Firefox!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks for the advese...advise. [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Verse ==

I'm cool with making that read like poetry. I just copied it from the WP article. But is it a poem? I thought it was just a saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:Again, I assume it was in German at first. I added the slash because it was the only thing I could figure the semicolon was thinking of. It ''is'' a rhyming couplet; although it's certainly not "a poem," a lot of folk wisdom sayings are expressed in rhyme. I think the fun fact could do just fine without the slash, though; just so long as there isn't a semicolon there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::I just figured whoever put the semicolon there did so because of all the commas before it, in an attempt to separate it. But the solidus is fine with me. By the way, it's "[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]." :) 06:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::?? I.e. if I'm going to drop the "It's" you'd prefer I capitalize the ''d''? But don't you prefer the "It's" be included anyway? (I was being a little informal in the summary; sorry!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... I think all would be best explained by a trip to the first line of my [[User:It's dot com|user page]] (although I was also partially rebelling against the one-word "dotcom" variety from the edit summary on the STUFF page). — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 06:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Welcome==
Hey AbdiViklas. I was just wondering how you are welcoming people with your user page instead of a welcome. It is obvious that you are doing it by accident. Do you use a sub page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I'm supposed to type ''<nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''. In a hurry, I often forget the ''/welcome'' part. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Why don't you just copy and paste it? Thats what I do, and it has been working pretty well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suppose I could. It's one step longer than ''subst'', but fool-proof! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I have been doing it 150 times. No problems yet! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

----

Thanks for the welcome. Almost as fast as we do at [http://furry.wikicities.com/ WikiFur] (and, truth be told, somewhat more polished ;-). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks! I know we've got at least one Furry enthusiast around here, [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]], although he hasn't been around much lately. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *chuckles* - yes, I know furrykef, he used to hang out with us in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicities #wikicities]. Been a fortnight since I've seen him - maybe he's gone on an online poker binge . . . [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sid and Marty Kroft Present: G.K. Chesterton ==

Abdi, because of you I now know of G.K. Chesterton. If I ever come across a "Father Brown" story, I'll know the truth - the truth embodied in a large, walrus-like British author/journalist. I now consider myself just that much richer in spirit. Next order of bwisness - determining the fate of Mayor McCheese. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Seriously. You should see me when I find out that there's some out-of-print story of his I haven't read! I do a little dance that certain NFL touchdowners have been known to refer to as "vulgar excess." So yeah, if you like detective stories, Father Brown is a great way to start (particularly ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/innocence/title.html The Blue Cross]'', but the best-known, and arguably best, piece of fiction he ever wrote is the novel ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/thursday/thursday.html The Man Who Was Thursday]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Losing the will to check the edits closely ==

I knew that would happen. Earlier today I had to force myself not just to hit the revert button, and actually examine the edit. Why won't this guy talk to us? On an unrelated note, I have, upon reflection, decided that compromise might be the best avenue for the New Boots/different town non-reference. It's too bad B left so quickly, before we could have a chance to really discuss it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Indeed, it's perplexing. I can't figure out whether he (or she, but he in the future for simplicity) is an extremely zealous, extremely well-meaning, extremely misguided individual, or a one-trick troll. Some of his edits really are improvements, like correcting something to reflect what SB really typed, but others seem to just add !s where there are few and take them away where there are many. But no, in the final analysis I think he must be well meaning. My only explanation for the silence is either that he's a true "gnome," who tries to do good but is shy and prefers anonymity, or that he's a user so new he hasn't discovered his own talk page or Recent changes, and is simply selecting emails at random. (Say—there isn't any kind of browsing setup that would keep someone from seeing the "new messages" banner, is there?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm confounded as well. My hunch was that he <s>or she</s> was never getting the message, hence my test on the sandbox, but I was able to receive my message to myself just fine as an anonny. And this guy's not even experiencing the weird IP changes I was, so that shouldn't be an issue. No, I think we're being ignored. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== On Trolling and other Isomorphisms... ==

Don't mind my nonsensical banter... I am currently (''not'') working on writing a statement of purpose for my fellowship application (properly read: ''avoiding it''). Don't ask when it's due, otherwise you'd be shocked. Anyway, I was thinking we should make up a section called ''[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=187594&oldid=187593 trolls post the dardnest things.]'' It would be a hit don't you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It would be ''hilarious''... but don't you think people would then ''try'' to get in it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, I'd read it. Several times. In fact, I'd print it and read it offline. Now I'm excited. I really hope this is able to be done ''somewhere''. I'd love helping this thing. Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::EDIT CONFLICT (or whatever): Yes, people trying to get in might be bad... Perhaps it'd be better to not broadcast the idea.
::I think they would want to get in. I admit that I've gotten an occasional guilty pleasure out of reading the ridiculous things trolls write (and I'm always thinking to myself, "This is vandalism! I'm not supposed to find this funny!") Anyway, it would just encourage trolls to keep vandalizing if they hoped to get featured somewhere on the Wiki. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm reminded, for some reason, of the Simpsons (or was it Futurama?) spoof of Bill Cosby's similarly titled show. What if this were done somewhere off-wiki? (I.e. on somebody's website or blog?) 
:Stux: What manner of beast is said fellowship application? It sounds like the sort of thing that carries high stakes. Me, all I have to do is transcribe some field notes and make some lesson plans, but I've been putting it off all day and so will stay up all night to make up (yeah, that's how I work). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:''(DorianGray): Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion.'' A hint of seriousness yes, an iota, I am not so sure ;). Unfortunately, yes, this could serve as an incentive. But have any of you guys ever read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense|Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense]] (or rather perused through it)? We'll always have trolls you know, just not as many as the big 'pedia, but even an increase might be 'enough'. As for the fellowship, it is a [http://was.nd.edu/gem/gemwebapp/public/gem_01_100.htm summer-work] type program that links you with industry and helps you pay for your grad school. I'm *finally* getting momentum, esp now that I found my grad school application essay and realized it will likely help me finish what i need to do! <insert *evil grin* here> :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I actually ''have'' gone through the Deleted Nonsense stuff on the big wiki. It's amazing... And I'm sure we have our fair share of weirdness... I know I've seen some. Now then. Back to the All Hallow's Eve toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::wow, i just looked at that page. hours of wierd things about evil squirrels and chocolate covered raisins......{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Note ==

It's not "What am I supposed to do?", but "What ''I'm'' supposed to do?". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oop. Thanks. That makes a little more sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or a little ''less'' sense, depending on how you look at it. I guess it makes more sense for Homestar. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==Solfège...==

Humming RE-MI-DO-DO-SOL, eh? What does that refer to? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/ Close Encounters of the Third Kind]''. Aliens contact Earth—and choose moveable do as the best method of communication. (Seriously—they even know the hand symbols!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::That would explain my lack of recognition. I haven't seen that film. And am not missing much, apparently, if it features moveable do. I really dislike moveable do. Talk atcha later. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::WHOA no you don't—knock moveable do and then just postpone the discussion!!! (For onlookers, this is what music nerds fight over. It's like which Elvish language is better.) And them '''is''' fightin' words. I'm not going to go into my rant on the subject at the moment, but it's very entertaining (as long as I don't break anything). On the other subject, you ought to see movie; if you like sci-fi it's a classic, but even if you don't it's a well-shaped movie for its time. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That's it, man! We are dueling to the death! A PLAGUE UPON MOVEABLE DO! No, just kidding. It's only a personal dislike, not a pedagogical philosophy or anything like that. But, since I have absolute pitch, I don't find it very useful. I prefer a system that always calls a C a C. I actually just use the German names of notes (since they're all monosyllables). I guess a lot of people find moveable do useful, but I was always annoyed that my teachers made me use it too when it isn't my ''modus operandi'' at all. Anyway, that's my philosophy. Talk to my man with the green and white stripes. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that ''is'' my objection to fixed do (one of them); as long as we're using these letters, it's simply a redundant system. If we were French it would be different, but at the moment we already have a system tied to absolute pitch. (Learning it for the purpose of international communication is a different matter; I have a Korean student whom I use it with since he grew up with it; but for sight-singing purposes it doesn't really bring anything new to the party, where as moveable brings an opportunity to engage tonality.) I guess, in pedagogical contexts, its supporters are putting a higher priority on developing absolute pitch than on developing sensitivity to tonal function. Personally, preferring a less eurocentric view of musics, I'm not as wed to a 12-note, octave-based, equal-tempered system as the be-all and end-all; I think training students to critically match a provided pitch is the most important. (I keep having dreams of writing a piece of ear training software with string instruments in mind that uses some midi controller with a slider—preferably emulating the physical instrument—to adjust the user's pitch to match a generated one, with visual representation on-screen and a little "you win!" message when it matches!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I suppose you're right, it's just that I've never used real fixed-do, just my German system (which I usually consider a variant on fixed-do). I don't really have any use for old do, re and mi except when singing ''The Sound of Music'' (which I don't really ever sing). For me, sightsinging is much easier with an absolute pitch system, so I sing "ah, ha, tseh, tseh, deh" (for the Glance motive from ''Tristan'') or whatever for whatever notes I need. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, for my own use, I prefer "moveable la." (Something we used to joke about in college—"La, la, la, la..." Not to mention moveable na, doot, and doo. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
''{conversation continued in next section...}''

Oh, something just came into my mind about this earlier today: About the first pronouncement I ever heard on the topic of moveable-do (or any kind of solfège) was from my fabulously musical mother, who bluntly told me, "Solfège is stupid." So, I was probably biased against it from the beginning, and that surely contributed to my bad attitude about it for the rest of time. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==...And the Absoluteness of Absolute Pitch==
I really don't have anything useful to add to this conversation, other than to say I understood it, and to agree with AbdiViklas, because moveable do makes way more sense in the sense of teaching singing within a key or when a particular key isn't important (I realize that's a strange concept to someone with perfect pitch (which I don't have, but I wish I did. I do have pretty good pitch memory, so if you ask me to sing an F, I can usually hit it or at least get within a half step, but I can't hear a note out of the blue and immediately say, Oh, that's an A-sharp)). I still, however, think both AbdiViklas and Heimstern Läufer are cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:And the sentiment is mutual. I have this weird thing that I've heard referred to as "acquired pitch"; i.e. from playing the violin so long I've developed pitch-identification ability within its range, but my skillz have an abrupt cutoff at the bottom note of the violin. Also, certain instrumental "voiceprints" completely throw me for a loop. I can ID a pitch on piano, flute, oboe, saxophone—but I'm pretty inconsistent with clarinet. And, frustratingly, the human voice! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I hear about people being able to identify pitches only on certain instruments all the time. I've never had that experience; to me, a pitch is a pitch, whatever instrument it is. I've actually often wondered what it would be like not to be able to identify and produce pitches at will, and I admit that it baffles me as much as it must baffle the normal people to know that I can do so. Oh, and Dot com, you may not want to wish you had absolute pitch. It's a really neat party trick, but it can be really frustrating. If someone starts singing a song in a key other than the original, it really grates on me. Then there's period-instrument recordings: while I certainly respect their intentions, I really can't listen to them because they play everything too low. So, those are the disadvantages of absolute pitch. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, now I don't have that problem. I can ''tell'' when something isn't aligned to a modern, Western, equal-temperament A-440 scale, but I don't suffer under it. After all, our selection of A-440 is so arbitrary (unless there's some kind of acoustic principle I don't know about, like the circumference of the earth divided by the distance to da mooon on the winter solstice equals A-440), and, although there are some mathematical arguments for our division of the octave, I prefer to engage the scale systems of other cultures on their own terms. Admittedly, it is a little hard for me to listen to a [[Wikipedia:Gamelan|Gamelan]] and remember that it's not just "out of tune," that they tuned it to those pitches just as carefully as I do, but if it's a 10-minute piece I get acclimated before long. The alternative is the colonial British attitude that dismissed the Carnatic system as a primitive "folk music" because their "poor intonation" was "indicative of a bad ear."
:::     And yeah, I played in Eastman's baroque ensemble for a couple of years (I didn't realize at first what a resource I had there, or who [http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=115 Paul O'Dette] was!), and it really throws you for a loop to play roughly an exact half step down. After the first 10 minutes of the rehearsal, though, I just get recalibrated into "Baroque mode." (But when listening to my prized [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm Freiburger] CDs, I still mentally identify what I'm hearing as a half step below what's written, and if I try to think about it it screws me up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Arbitrary A=400 is indeed, yet it is completely ingrained into my ear. I guess it wouldn't make a difference if the Baroque ensemble were playing a piece I didn't know, since I wouldn't know its real key (although it sounds odd to me to hear a Baroque piece in Db major, since that was a rather uncommon key during that era.) The biggest problem is anything well-known: if it's ''The Messiah'' or a Brandenburg concerto the lower pitch is just going to sound wrong to me. Ahistorical and arbitrary, but still part of my congnition. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, same here. I have the problem of kind of subconsciously imagining the physicality of the note, i.e. the fingering they're doing—which gets pretty funky in Db (or Gb!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Pitch (music)#Historical pitch standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Amen, hallelujah, preach it. Also http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1305.htm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Hi guys! I've been following this conversation for a while, and I figured I may have something to actually contribute: I have this vague recollection from my physics II class that the reason 440Hz is used is in part due to resonance qualities of the material. That is, that would be why we'd use 440Hz and not 439 or 441. (????) I'm trying to find out more about the subject, then again reading about [[Wikipedia:Pitch_%28music%29#Need_to_standardize_pitch|Pitch standardization]] suggests that I remembered it wrong, and that the resonance frequencies have to do with all the ''C'' frequencies being the same, and the pitch really IS arbitrary. (Apparently they tried to set A at 439 once but it being prime was really hard to reproduce). While reading i'm learning about such big phrases as [[Wikipedia:Fundamental_frequency|Fundamental_frequency]] and [[Wikipedia:Harmonic series (music)|Harmonic series]]. Hmmm, maybe I don't have anything to contribute... I like shiny things. (There, that's better!). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::But don't assume we ''really'' play at A-440 today. We had an Israeli/French/German conductor at Eastman who routinely tuned us to 442 or so. I hear it's fairly popular in Europe (but what do you expect from people who drink Warm Ones). I hear also there's some concern about pitch just continuing to rise "out of control" (see a [http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-January/001455.html response] to that concern). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! Did I just read that correctly? Fines by the Italian government for tuning forks outside of 440!? O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Proposed, proposed. And as I read more I'm getting very confused; I'm not sure what connection [[Wikipedia:Lyndon LaRouche|a guy]] who tried to run for president from jail has to the Italian senate, or whether any bill with his name on it would really be taken seriously. On the one hand, it must seem remarkable to the general onlooker that these music nerds are ''at'' each other's ''throats'' over a half-step, but on the other hand the whole "Slatkin serves Satan" thing and the absurdity of all these shenanigans are vaguely pleasing to me. They renew my faith that the "classical" music scene has not simply ossified into an arena for the performance of 18th-century works with 19th-century sensibilities amid 20th-century conventions of a darkened, hushed audience composed mainly of nursing home excursions and tobacco heiresses trying to assuage their inherited guilt by donating to a cause that is both ostensibly societally uplifting and effectually exclusivist. Rather, it offers hope that the sheer ''messiness'' we see in music history—with major composers' mud-slinging, name-calling, old-school/new-school ([[Wikipedia:Ars nova|Ars nova]], [[Wikipedia:Claudio Monteverdi|seconda practica]]), East-coast/West-coast-style invective, rampant rumors that certain [[Wikipedia:Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini|virtuosi]] ''did'' in fact "serve satan," and audiences that simultaneously awarded their [[Wikipedia:Farinelli|favorite vocalists]] with lives of fame, free love, and [http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/a/plate_ipa00014.html gratuitous jewelry] that rival any modern-day blingster, and then gossiped obliviously through the operas to the point that even their pet stars, when their arias came, had to come out to the edge of the stage, grab the spotlight, and gesticulate broadly to wrest their attention—is not dead. (If you didn't follow that sentence, leave out everything between the dashes.) In a way, it's almost a performance art of sorts; LaRouche, his critics, the respective governments, and the colorful, vicious, vivacious rhetoric form one big, societal piece of entertaining pageant—"reality opera," if you will! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hallrunner ==

Awesome job on [[Hallrunner]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I was bored, and using "random page" until I found something worth editing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==wiki defender thing...y==

Hey abdi, thanks for the trophy!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, dude! That's was awesome to see first thing in the morning! [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 19:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hey; that seemed to me to be the clearest example I've seen yet of what it was meant for. But you know, with a little extra effort it would have been chock full of Steak-umms! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks also from me. :) I didn't do much, but I appreciate it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And many ''mahalos'' from me too. I think that was the ultimate recognition I've always wanted on here... Thanks, man. And I'd just about had it with that trolling toaster. So I stepped in to fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hizzlary Hahn==

So I just got back from a Hilary Hahn concert. She stuck around afterwards to sign CDs; I cursed myself for not bringing mine, and for not bringing a camera. Can you imagine how a photo of me 'n' Hilary would look on my user page?! (If you're having trouble understanding the significant beautification that this would represent for my page, examine [http://www.hilaryhahn.com hilaryhahn.com].) You have to understand, she's like exactly my age; when I was 16 I bought her solo Bach CD simply because she was on the cover (and no, we're not talking about a [[Wikipedia:Lara St. John|Lara St. John]] cover; her eyebrow alone was enough to sell me), and have harbored a crush ever since. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:This may actually be the first time I've heard of anyone having a crush on a famous ''classical'' musician. I can't say I've ever had one of those myself. At least I'm glad to hear that not ''all'' the heartthrobs have to be no-talents like Britney Spears. Anyway, that's cool you got to see Hilary Hahn in concert; I hear she's great, although I haven't yet heard her myself. I probably don't listen to as much violin solo music as you do, since I'm a horn-player-turned-tenor. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::They say you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but if she plays half as hot as she looks, then you had an extremely enjoyable concertgoing evening, to put it mildly. You should have drawn a picture of her and handed it to her after the concert. She would have posted it on her website. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah, but she does, that's the marvel of it. Her strong suit is an absolute, impeccable, superhuman purity and perfection of tone and intonation. You could have a competition in which all the major violin supastars play only one note each, and she'd win, for her bow control. Others may have a tone that sounds perfect from 10 feet away, but then you could put it under a microscope and you'd find the tiniest jitter or bump in their sound and none in Hilary's. >>''Edit'': Wait, I just found an Amazon page that puts it well: "Her tone has the directness and intensity of a laser beam and the unblemished purity of fine-spun crystal." (That page, btw, is her own [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/580596/ref=ed_mus_mysh_qp_hahn_1/102-4070132-3504108 music recommendations]; the story of her convergence with [[Wikipedia:...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] is quite amusing.)<< That Her weakness is that her artistic persona and interpretations are fairly reserved, poised, collected, and cool. Not like she's a cold fish, or lacks emotive expression; she can bring it; but she's not all-over-the-place, blood-'n'-guts melodrama like [http://www.nadjasalernosonnenberg.com/ Nadja], and sometimes I want that. I'd actually prefer both artists for different pieces. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, Heimstern (can I call you Heimstern?), I played horn too! I'm immensely glad I chose it (due to its superiority over all the other brass instruments (I'll insert that qualifier there since this ''is'' AbdiViklas's page, and there's no need to be a bad guest here)), but the real reason I originally selected horn over trumpet is that this hot girl was also in the section. Another ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Yes, Dot com, please do call me Heimstern. I find it overly formal and awkward when people address me by both first name and surname (if those terms really apply to a pseudonym like "Heimstern Läufer"). I always did love the horn, and I picked it because I liked the instrument, not for any ulterior motives. (I also thought I'd have advantages finding the right notes because of absolute pitch.) Then came college and the teacher from the abyss. We were ''not'' meant for each other at all. So, I'm now a tenor. Let me tell you, the world of vocalists is ''miles'' away from the world of instrumentalists. Half of them seem to seriously believe that singing the right rhythm is optional. I've actually been working on a Schubert song, "Auf dem Strom", which features a horn part in addition to voice and piano. It has to be one of the most beautiful and heartrending songs ever written. It alone proves your point that the horn is the greatest of brass instruments, since no trumpet or tuba could ever be so lyrical and full of ''Sehnsucht''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 18:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::LOL—I had a tubist friend at Eastman who would be up in arms at that. Thanks to his friendship, I know far more about tubas, tuba rep, and where to buy tubas than I'll ever need to. I've also had the joy of hearing the last movement of the [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LWQH/qid=1132021791/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=classical Mendelssohn violin concerto] (listen to track 3) arranged for tuba!! "Bopbopbopbop ''boop'' boodeboop boop boop boop boop boop..." It's something like watching a hippo do a tap routine on a tightrope: astounding, but you wonder why it had to be done. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, tubists just exist in a completely alternate universe to us, anyway. My thought about them is the same thing all we tenors think about basses: "Why would anyone ''want'' to sing/play that low?" [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==I know I am not supposed to, but==

I need to talk again...
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you did it the right way this time. Forum ahoy! (Though I can't be much help; I'm leaving in half an hour for a big music teachers' convention.) There are plenty of smart folks over there, though, who can take my place. I will at least check up on your edits at the forum before I leave and when I get back Monday night. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey again, I sent a message to you in the forum, send a repply when you get the chance.
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==A telegrammaparcel==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Feel free to leave me an electronic message. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''
==Sweden??==
Judging by that message you posted on Sir Strong Bad's talk page, are you seriously from Sweden, or are you just saying that 'cause your name is Abdi'''Viklas'''? Because Sweden is totally my favorite country ever. Because I used to live in Sweden before we moved to Seattle. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, I'm no more from Sweden than [http://www.mclars.com/ MC Lars] is actually "[http://mclars.com/laptop_lyrics.html#stock Straight Outta Stockholm]." For what it's worth, I'm a hardcore fan of Swedish folk music, especially the group [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogArtist_01.asp?Action=Get&Artist_ID=45 Väsen]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::Never heard of it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Not an acceptable situation! Check out particularly their second US release, [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogAlbum_01.asp?Album_ID=101 Whirled] (even though it's from, like, '96, it's still their best single album). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I'll take a look at it. Thanks. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Hey there Abdiviklas, how have you been, i've noticed you mostly answer my questions in the discussion pages, lets get to konw each other:

1.Whats your real name?

2.What do you do for a living?

3.How did you get the name "AbdiViklas"?

4.How long have you been on Homestar runner wiki?

5.How did you find me?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, you can get some of the information you want from Abdi's [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]]. A person's user page is usually the best place to start if you want to know about a user. Hope that's helpful! (And, Abdi, hope you don't mind my butting in.) ''(grins sheepishly)'' [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not at all; I've been doing it a good bit myself recently! And he's right, Nikolce; my [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]] explains questions 3 and 4 pretty well. As for #1, I prefer not to use my real name on the internet if I can help it. And for #5, I found you by watching [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] and noticing the questions you were asking on discussion pages.
I have some questions for you, actually!
#How do you pronounce your name? With friends with international names, I like to at least make an effort to pronounce them correctly. I know it's hard to explain in writing, without being able to speak, but at least could you explain the "-ce" ending: does the "e" have much of a sound? If so, is it more of an "ey," like "hey," or "e" like "wet"? And what does the "c" do—a "s" sound, a "k" sound, or a "ch" sound?
#I think we're all a little confused about your gender. You mentioned that your name translates to "Nick," but [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] adressed you as a lady. (Here "Nick" is usually a guy's nickname, short for Nicholas; the female equivalent is "Nicole." I've never known a girl named "Nick," though I think I have heard of one who went by "Nicky."
#Umm... I guess I only had two questions, but a two-number list didn't seem like a real list. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:1. The way you say my name is would be like the same way to say Europian names: Nikolce Kocovski-Ne-kol-che Ko-cho-v-ske. 
:2.I'm male, its just that Nick is easier to say then Nikolce, I've never been called Nicholas or Nikky, but you can call me that if you wish. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== More Anagrams ==

Now look what you've done. That anagram thing you showed me is massively addicting. But there's one in particular I wanna share. "Strongbadia" can be arranged to spell "A brat's doing". Don't you love it when they work out and mean something relavent like that? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I personally think Strong Bad should abandon the "Prof. Tor Coolguy" moniker in favor of "Dr. Snot Bag". [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
::But who among us will agree that Strong Mad is "Most Grand"? Although Strong Bad would agree that Strong Sad "Drags Tons", I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Holy cow—what storm have I unleashed?? Those are supoib, guys. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== A Reply ==

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for caring. I appreciate it. [[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Don't mention it. In fact, it could be considered a school assignment, since I'm currently reading [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807746096/qid=1132443884/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 The Challenge to Care in Schools: An Alternative Approach to Education]. I find it a little alarming that the idea of giving a crap can be described as "an alternative approach," though in fairness it gets into way more than that. It's about creating a supportive classroom community that doesn't just announce the tenets of "character education" without really believing them, but models and values true... well, caring. Much more fun. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== On TOCs and other nuances ==

Hey Abdi! What's up? I wanted to brief you on TOC oddities since you asked about it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Coach_Z&diff=202369&oldid=202367 here]. Basically, what Mediawiki does is that it hides TOCs for pages with less than 3 titles (i think it's 3 at least), however there are special commands such as <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></code> that make the TOC be placed in that precise location and have the TOC always be hidden, respectively. I think that toc can make a TOC appear in short pages, but I think <code><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></code> might be more of what you need. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words This page] explains more in depth the different Magic Words available for use in the wiki. I hope this is helpful and informative! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Cool. I thought it had something to do with the titles, and added one at the top of the page (thinking the important thing was that the page start with one); that must have bumped it over three, since a TOC appeared. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jibney ==

Looking at Jibney's edit history, it looks like he's always been a little off-the-wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided he just wanted to start making gibberish edits here and there. But then again, it's also possible someone is trying to make him look bad. Any ideas? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think he was immitating president bush when he signed your guestbook. I think he just wants attention and wants it bad. My guess is that he either thought it would be ok to deface a vandal's ip user page, or it might even be his own and doesn't know he can't prove that it's his ip. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::'''(Edit conflict):''' Yeah; he ''has'' demonstrated an ability to write in at least semi-standard English (e.g. his last few responses on his user page). I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he has made legit article edits like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strongbadia&diff=prev&oldid=199670]. Remember several of our power users started out rough, with a block or two. ''{after edit conflict}'' ...and I would think it would be more in his interests to prove it's ''not'' his IP! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::''(I almost put this [[Talk:The_Brothers_Chaps%27_Fansite_Acknowledgements#Possession|in the wrong section]])'' Jibney claims to have been [[User:Timmy%21|Timmy]], who used to be a vandal. (Not a Visigoth) But yeah the changes are recent enough that it would be best that they are not his. But remember he doesn't have to explain that (innocent till proven guilty?), just explain his current actions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yep. And he also identifies himself as one Marshieman on the Fanstuff wiki, who apparently wore out his welcome there for general obnoxiousness in Aug and was blocked for a year. See [[User talk:Jibney#Hello, Marshieman.]]; apparently [[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] has some bad blood for him (see also [[User talk:Jibney#Heh heh...]]). Obviously he has his past, but I'd prefer to hold out hope whenever possible. A mentor orchestra teacher I know has several stories of kids that she would have paid money to get out of her class, who she didn't believe had ''any'' musical talent... who went on to attend conservatories and ultimately become music teachers themselves. Besides, unless blocks are made binding unilaterally across the wikis, he should be judged simply by what he does here.
::::To the best I can tell, neither [[User:Timmy!|Timmy]] nor [[User:Jibney|Jibney]] has ever been blocked here. The user Jibney was created, actually, at [[User:Kerrek_slaya|Kerrek_slaya]]'s suggestion when Timmy couldn't remember his password and didn't have an email address (see [[User_talk:66.169.119.137]]). And to avoid confusion, I strongly doubt that ''our'' [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]] has anything to do with him. His [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|edits]] consisted of a spree of obscene, offensive page moves roughly 5 hrs before Jibney's first edits. Timmy/Jibney's style tends to be at worst nonsensical or puerile and involve heavy AOLspeak. Jibney was created 5 hrs too late to give him an alibi, but I really don't think it's him. If I'm right, it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to make bad edits appear as his; the "Heh heh..." section of his talk page linked above seems to involve some such occurrence on fanstuff. Additionally, both here and on fanstuff, occasional runs of brazenly vandalistic and heavily misspelled edits have been made (e.g. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=185999], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186003], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186005], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186011]), which he has subsequently [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:66.169.119.137&diff=prev&oldid=186037 explained] as his little sister gaining access to his computer. Although Thatkidsam doubts his veracity rather sneeringly, compare the semiliterate raving of those edits to his explanation; although uncap.d, etc, it shows a different style. And the edit 2.5 hrs [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:boring_%28really%29&diff=prev&oldid=185897 before] the suspicious ones was even more prosaic. Bottom line: the guy makes things hard on himself through AOLspeak and impulsive editting that seems to make more sense to himself than to others, but I see in his saner edits the desire (or at least potential) to be a constructive member of the the wiki, and I'd prefer not to oppose that desire in anyone as long as it remains at the forefront. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow! That is the most thorough analysis of a user I have '''ever''' seen! I didn't even know how many colons to use to indent this thing! Oh yeah I should reply to this too shouldn't I? Well basically you've summed up Jibney's mystery into ... another mystery! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome template ==

Quick question: When I use '''<nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''' to greet new users, where does the template come from? Did the change you made to your Welcome template (with the Tour) also affect that tag? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. What you're using is [[Template:welcome]]; I took that and made a personalized version which I keep at [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome]], and that's what I editted. You can do the same if you want; you'd use the same code to implement it, but substitute its location for the word "welcome" (e.g. I type <nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if you think the tour should be added to the main welcome template itself, you could just add it there. If you decide to do that, however, it might be a good idea to announce your intentions on [[Template talk:welcome]] first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think it should be incorporated into [[HRWiki:Introduction]] first, and then the Introduction should be linked in the welcome template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==HTML Romanian codes==
For my own reference, and the curiosity of anyone who happens by, how to create some of the characters in the Romanian alphabet:
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! Upper case
! Lower case
! Upper case encoding
! Lower case encoding
! Notes
|-
| Ă
| ă
| &#258;
| &#259;
|  
|-
| Â
| â
| &#194;
| &#226;
|  
|-
| Î
| î
| &#206;
| &#238;
|  
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ș}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ș}}
| &#536;
| &#537;
| s with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ş
| ş
| &#350;
| &#351;
| s with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ț}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ț}}
| &#538;
| &#539;
| t with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ţ
| ţ
| &#354;
| &#355;
| t with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|}

Are you romanian Abdi? (Or of romanian descent?) My old roommate is Romanian. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope; no connection except that I went there two summers in a row with teams from my church. I tried to pick up a little language, but really had only an ornamental vocabulary (enough to say something in Romanian just so I'd be saying something in Romanian). I got myself into '''BIG''' trouble, evidently, when I tried to order a lemon Fanta (they have different flavors over there, many of which are awesome), and mispronounced the word for lemon. My hosts' eyes got ''really'' big and they turned bright red; when they regained the power of speech all they could manage was "Don't... ever... say that again...." Me: "Why, what? What did I say?" Them: "You... ''{pause}'' you don't want to know." To this day I don't know what word that sounded like!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol! Well if you transliterate (is that a word) what you wrote perhaps I can ask my old roommate this weekend. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The word was (and here I get a chance to use some of those characters above) "lămâjie"; that "a" with a circumflex, as I understood it, was supposed to be something like the "oo" of "wood" but closer to the "ou" of "would," a hint of the "oo" of "boot" creeping in. I way over-emphasized the latter, and then gave the final "e" too much of a Spanish "ey" sound—"luhmooyay." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL i'll see what I can do... I think I have enough to explain to him the word ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::So where your hosts like really mad or were they cracking up? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Either cracking up or kind of embarrassed or both, depending on their personality. (These were teenagers; the 15-yr-old guy thought it was the funniest event of the 21st century, though even he demurred to tell me what it meant; the shy girl looked like she thought it was funny and felt guilty for thinking so.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Not that this really relates to Romanian, although it does relate to language mix-ups and the current season: My favorite mistake in a German essay by an American student was "An Thanksgiving esse ich die Türkei", which means, "On Thanksgiving I eat Turkey" (i.e., the ''country'' of Turkey!) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL; I'm ''sure'' he tries. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ohhh it's possibly slang then. My old roommate moved from there when he was 8 and i don't know if he knows all the slang. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== A wery new electronic reply! ==

'''For Sir Viklas. Hi?'''

'''1. Prehaps! I'm've was to make football often times. Play? Know. Best football results twice again.'''

'''2. Every age I have seen out as a baby. I think I has the solution: width times height.'''

'''3. As a wery old, I can fathom the scene to be with me. Looking always as I ever did. It was not came's. He borrowed mine.'''

'''Okay, Viklas, one would certainly wish that would answer your questions. I do believe that we're on the same page. Unfortunately, yours has a large F on it.'''

'''— Sir Stark Dålig '''

==Marching Bands (not of Manhattan)==

I said "marching bands". Most schools near me have bands, but none I know have marching bands. I live in the same city as TBC. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's reassuring. And frankly, I'd rather they had a sit-down-an'-play-music band than a put-on-a-purple-thing-and-dance-around band. (Or better yet, how about Strings and Choral programs?) But seriously, I'd be very surprised if a city the size of Atlanta didn't have a fair number of HS marching bands. In fact, a cursory Googling reveals that [http://www.marching-band.net/news/ "The Official" Metro Atlanta Battle of the Bands] on Oct. 14, 2004 included bands from the following schools:
::Southwest DeKalb
::Morrow
::Redan
::Westlake
::Columbia
::Towers
::Mays
::Stephenson
::Martin Luther King
::Pebble Brook
::Cedar Grove
::Riverdale
::Lithonia
:However, cross-checking against the [http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/our_schools/schools_list/school_list1.html#high list of Atlanta public high schools] shows only Mays. What's the deal—the others are suburban schools with nice budgets? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woah, there's a actully a real school called Riverdale high? In those old Archie comics he's in riverdale high school, for those of you who don't know. That's awsome! {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 00:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC) PS: For some reason my sig isn't working on this page. Or my new x-mas themed one. Whats happening?
:::Man. Now [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=205706 my] User page is haunted! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Weird, man. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, problem fixed! Curse lifted :p. Binary Searches sure come in handy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::That Stux is a computer genius man! (Let's do a dance for the computer genius man.) Btw (not in the tone of trauma that would continue the quote), what did you do? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well it didn't involve shotguns that's for sure... If you check out this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=prev&oldid=206819 diff] you'll see that there were a few template inclusions that were not closed, making everything be template text. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Dances for the computer genius man* doo-doo! doo-doo! Thank you stux! you rule! Doo-doo!{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lovett and Westminster aren't on there because they're private schools. Fancy-shemancy. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I once again come to you asking for a favor! '''Stop'''

Might I trouble you for a photograph? '''Stop'''

Because you are being inducted into my honorary members gang! '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

'''PS: If possible, please make it a B/W photo. My telegramophone doesn't seem to handle the colored genre oh too well. Regards!'''

:I'd rather not use my real picture, for the same reason that I'd rather not use my real name. Also, I'm not actually Swedish (see [[#Sweden??|conversation above]]). But since I impersonated a Swedish prince on your talk page, I find it only fitting to use an [[Wikipedia:Image:Ducele_de_Halland.jpg|image of one]] to represent me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::I bet you are a hit with the ladies Mr. Swedish Prince. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Woah, that picture totally looks like me! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== GVBAoA ==

[[Image:Pewtervanburen.PNG|right|Pretend its golden, since I'm already pushing the one-personal-image rule.]]
Abdi, you've just earned yourself the '''GVBAoA''': 
'''G'''old 
'''V'''an 
'''B'''uren 
'''A'''award 
'''o'''f 
'''A'''wesomeness 
for helping me get off the ground when I was a newbie, and for being an all around nice person. There are only five in the entire world! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Whoa!! What an honor! I have so many people to thank—I'd like to thank the academy; I'd like to thank The Cheat, for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
==The "Yet another award" award==
:Just kiddin. It's the '''thank you award'''. I present this thank you award to AbdiViklas, <s>Pretty weird person</s> Swedish Prince, for giving me an awesome trophy and for just being cool.
So here you go! Thanks!
:{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC) [[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|Thank You Award givin to '''AbdiViklas''']]
::Presenting: the '''"No, thank ''you''!" award'''! For being an expert trophy-giver and encourager. People who affirm good stuff in others are themselves ''good stuff''. G-E-W-D.
::On an unrelated note: when I hear "Swedish Prince" I can't help imagining a [[Wikipedia:Prince (artist)|guy in a purple suit]] trying to look sultry but failing because his [[Wikipedia:Swedish Chef|eyebrows and mustache entirely obscure his face]]. [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u2/141603.html Oh-oh-oh, the Swedish thing]... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== "wiki is gay"? ==

I'm sorry, I need to ask this question in order to see if this was just an inane dream or a reality - did Homestarrunner.com temporarily put up a message in their updates section (top-right corner of the main pages) saying that "The HRWiki is gay"? Thanks, this is killing me... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 13:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Interesting. No, we don't have any record of that happening. Who did you hear that one from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::TBC like us. We're cool. Most of us seem to like members of the opposite gender...so there. **sticks out tongue and gives a rasbery** {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that sounds something more like what Matt Wilson would do... He doesn't like his cartoon's wiki much, and has put things like "the wiki is creepy" in the credits occasionally, and even openly mocked them with a "Bonus Stage Wiki Guy" character in a recent toon. But the Brothers Chaps love us. They sent Joey sketches and stuff. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Who's Matt Wilson, and what cartoon does he make? He sounds like a not-so-nice person. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Matt Wilson writes the [[Wikipedia:Bonus Stage|Bonus Stage]] webtoons. He doesn't think much of his fans, I think, the wiki in particular. But the cartoons rock. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Like I said, I think I was — literally — dreaming. I was up really late last night. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::...which reminds me that I really spend too much time on the computer. Dreaming about the internet, wow... :/ {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL—yes, that is a warning sign. (I can just imagine Gafaddict doing couch mumbling: "Mbl... hammminbble... Edit conflict...".) Seriously, not only do TBC like the wiki, their record is notably free from the use of "gay" as a generic negative. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, me i've be doing great, can i ask you some questions:

1.whats your favourite toon?

2.whats your favourite character?

3.how did you find Homestar runner?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Two of those are tough. (One's easy; the answer to #3 is on [[User:AbdiViklas#Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction|my user page]].) For favorite 'toon, I'll have to limit it to sbemails to make it easier. In that case, the three that I ''enjoy'' the most are [[funny]], [[caffeine]], and [[your friends]]. I can't decide exactly what the order should be. I feel a little guiltily lowbrow for enjoying so much the ones that are just straight-up, slapstick, audiovisual gags; I ''appreciate'' the ones that are "clever" too, but I can't help just laughing at loud at these.
:For favorite character: also tough. Of course I like 'em all, for the appropriate reasons. (Strong Bad because he's... Strong Bad; Strong Sad for his good taste in literature, music, art, and intellectual culture; Homestar for his heartwarming naïveté; etc.) If I have to pick a major character, I'll go with The Cheat; I just bought one of the The Cheat t-shirts while they were on sale, and it's the first t-shirt I've bought. But if we're including minor characters, I think What's Her Face is pretty cool, as I once [[Talk:What's Her Face|observed]] in a characteristically wordy post. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[Talk:What%27s_Her_Face#From_the_Paper_.22Teen_Girl_Squad:_Class_Stratification_and_the_Role_of_Otherness_Within_A_Multi-teen_Peer_Group_Dynamic.22|''No wonder'']] you didn't post the entire link that discussion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That and the fact that my comment was in response to some above that heading. (By the way, that heading was [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]]'s doing; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=151263&oldid=151256 originally] I hadn't started a new section.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=next&oldid=151263 see].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

== Louisiana residents ==

AbdiViklas: I noticed that you reverted my edit on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/weird dream#Louisiana lingerie?|this page]], which was a removal of the phrase "it could even be a jab at the relative intelligence of Louisiana residents." Let me make the case for my removal, and then I'll let you do with that information as you see fit.

I'm not aware of a stereotype that Louisiana residents are unintelligent. I ''am'' aware of a false stereotype that people living in the South are "slow." I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. In this case, I have little confidence that TBC would propogate this bias--they are from Georgia, about as South as you can get. (I also have difficulty seeing the connection between askew undergarments and intelligence, although one could argue this point.)

So, I removed your comment because I saw no need to perpetuate an insulting stereotype, especially one which residents of Georgia would be unlikely to defend. I trust that you'll take these comments as what they're intended to be--an explanation of my position--and not a personal attack. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your tact! I live in NC myself, so I certainly don't subscribe to the "dumb Southerner" concept (and am concerned about research showing employer bias against Southern accents!). I offerred the comment as illustration that the Easter egg could have meant something other Mardi Gras. In fact, my first thought when watching it, since I didn't make the Mardi Gras connection, was "Ha ha, that one couldn't even figure out how to put it on!" True, Louisiana isn't the butt of such jokes so much as Arkansas; it was jokes like the [http://www.joke-archives.com/youmaybe/arkansasreadingtest.html Arkansas reading test] that I was thinking of. (And I've heard that one ''from'' Southerners, in NC!) I'm not so sure TBC have qualms about perpetuating insulting stereotypes, either; I find it hard to watch Li'l Brudder in light of the physically impaired. (But yes, to their credit, they steer mostly clear of shock humor and using touchy subjects for cheap laughs.)
:As for removing the comment, I just reverted because I thought it was generally frowned upon to edit other people's comments in STUFF or talk pages. (I mean, I once deleted one when someone used a homosexual slur, but for anything less extreme I try to let it stand.) In light of your argument that acknowledging a harmful stereotype reinforces it, though, you can consider it ''my'' deletion!
:Thanks for responding in such a diplomatic and well-explained way! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, thanks for the cheerful reply; I probably made a mountain out of a molehill anyway (it's only a STUFF page, after all). I'll keep your comments in mind before editing arguments in the future. Have a great week, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== greetings from Nikolce Kocovski (plus homeschooling) ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing fantastic. anyway onto business:
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you ever had a bulling problem in school?
#what have been up to recently?
yours truly [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey Nik!
:#I think I'd noticed [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] a couple of times on recent changes, but I hadn't looked up his user page until you asked. I wonder how his Elvis impersonation is? I hope it's better than the one on [http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/01-1.html this] page (see the entry for Jan. 8)!
:#I was [[Wikipedia:Homeschooling|homeschooled]] from 2nd grade through high school, so I certainly didn't have as many problems with bullying as most students, but even so I had some. Interestingly, one of the guys who used to tease me in really painful ways eventually (like within the same year) realized that he really was hurting me, apologized, and started being nicer. I think he wasn't really so much a true bully; he just thought he was being funny (while I didn't). These days, as a teacher, I'm more concerned with trying to prevent bullying for my students. It's really a serious problem; in the U.S. 75% report being bullied at some point, which means not only are they being denied a fundamental human right, but their education and development are being affected. I'm not sure how much I can do as a teacher to really change bullying, but I intend at least not to be unaware of it or (worse) ignore it.
:#Recently I've been doing a bunch of homework for finals in my university courses. Also I've been visiting a high school where I've been practicing conducting the orchestra in [[Wikipedia:Arcangelo Corelli|Corelli]]'s ''Christmas Concerto'', which has been a lot of fun. Conducting Baroque music has an effect on me sort of like "runner's high"; by the end of the rehearsal I'm a little giddy. Their concert is Tuesday. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I had no idea you were once a homeschooler! So was I from K-12. I'm still very glad of it and quite appreciative of the sacrifices my dear mother made to teach me (especially since I was sometimes grotesquely lazy). Anyway, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup. From about halfway through 2nd grade, when my Mom pulled me out because I was having serious problems. I was ADD (not hyperactive) before it had really become well-known, and my teacher couldn't understand why I wasn't getting my worksheets ''{sneer expressing intense teacherly contempt for worksheets}'' done without supervision. Plus I was a real troublemaker, having problems "keeping my hands to myself" (less from agression than from a confusion about the fact that tripping others or swinging my lunchbox into them was not as funny for them as for me). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Not that it's much to add, but my ex was homeschooled. I think kids can benefit more through homeschooling. If I have kids, I'd like them to be homeschool as much as possible too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Let me hasten to say that, as somebody about to be employed by it, I'm definitely not anti-public-education-system. The pros and cons of homeschooling versus public would have to do largely with what you felt the purpose of school was. If you adhered to a very traditional understanding of education in which "knowledge" meant a canon of factual information to be "uploaded" from written curricula and direct instruction into students' minds—in which "school" was primarily about the stuff it seems, on the surface, to be about (Reading 'n' Riting 'n' 'Rithmetic, etc.)—then yeah, that can be more efficiently accomplished through 1-on-1 instruction. But if you define "knowledge" as socially created, i.e. understanding is best achieved by experiencing something rather than hearing about it, and the transfer of experiential understandings through group work is not simply a side effect of schooling but an asset; if you think that what school is there to provide is not simply the official curriculum but the hidden curricula of social interaction and societal structures, and especially if you place a priority on exposing your child to other socioeconomic groups and cultures, then public school becomes desirable. (Although, contrary to popular opinion, homeschooling isn't typically insular; I had just as much contact with peers via co-opped classes and extracurricular clubs as most public schoolers. It would still be possible to achieve all the benefits above, though in my experience you might have to look outside the homeschooling community for meaningful interaction with other cultures.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:I seem to be a bit late to this conversation, but I just figured I'd also meantion I was homeschooled from grade 2 onward as well. I switched when we moved way up country to Quesnel, and when we moved back south I never went back. I liked it, especially since it's so flexible. A bit ''too'' flexible sometimes too, it is somewhat dificult to stay on schedule. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

::I too, am late in responding, but I will anyway. Yes, I, too, occasionally found it too flexible. My mother can tell many a story of my dreadful procrastination. It still bites me occasionally, but I think I've mostly outgrown that bad habit now. (Of course, finding the Wiki has done nothing to improve my habits in that area...) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, hehe. Perhaps my earlier Wikiing is partly responsible for the remarkable intensity of my finals-period workload, which is why I haven't been on her much in a couple of weeks. Anydangways... I'm back! Missed y'all. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I am updating my Honorary Gang Members electronic page and I need the following information. '''Stop'''

What rank would you consider yourself in my gang? '''Stop'''

For example, I am the '''"Brains"'''. '''Stop'''

The Sneak is '''"The Thief"'''. '''Stop'''

And The Strong Man is '''"The Brawn"'''. '''Stop'''

Please try not to use any of those ranks. '''Stop'''

Please respond on my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:Gee, I'm not sure, S.S. Bad. I think I need to rewatch Ocean's 11 for ideas. I'll get back to you, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Official "You're Back!" Greetings ==

Hey, what can we say but that we missed you? I constantly kept thinking "Gee, where's Abdi and his amazing replies an' such?" I even tried to fill your niche whilst you were gone (check my contributions. There's at least one marked "An Abdi-worthy reply"), but to no avail. So now we won't be too bored, with so many other people leaving the wiki for the hols. Glad to have ya back, Abdi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:<s>Oh? You were gone?</s> Er... I mean... glad to have you back too! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I noticed you'd been a bit scarce around here. I figured it was school-related. I've been done for over a week now. I'm in Oregon visiting family and friends for Christmas, but I'm still definitely present on the Wiki. So don't worry, either you or DorianGray, I'll be there like shareware. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Glad to have you back, man! And I also rememebred you. See my reply over [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17#Is_it_cardboard.2C_or_is_it_feedback.3F|TB's talk]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
You guys are so nice! So—yeah... guess that was kind of a false alarm, what with not visiting for another week. As you guessed, H.L., my absence up until about the 22nd was school-related, but absence since then was spending-Christmas-with-the-family-related. To be more specific, sitting-around-in-pajamas-eating-chocolate-and-drinking-hot-cider-and-egg-nog-alternately-for-three-days-straight-related. We punctuated the festive lethargy with trips to Narnia and King Kong, which were both just great, in their (very different) ways. Next up: Pride & Prejudice (yes, there ''are'' men who dig it), Harry Potter, The Producers, maybe some Memoirs of a Geisha, and all those things from a while ago like Crash or Zorro that I haven't seen yet. Whew! The worload!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic crisis! ==

Dear, Sir Viklas '''Stop'''

I apologize for being absent for a while. '''Stop'''

The Decemberween season keeps me busy even in the past! '''Stop'''

It is a delight to recollect with the gang during this glorious season! '''Stop'''

However our joyous gatherings may have to end shortly. '''Stop'''

For a complaint has been presented to my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Please refer to my talk page and view the complaint from Sir Dot Com. '''Stop'''

If you all agree to the idea he has proposed then the gang may live for another day! '''Stop'''

I thank you all in the most gracious manner and bid you a very merry Decemberween season! '''Stop'''

Sincerely,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:See [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images]] for more info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing great. i just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thank you for your kind messages, you've helped me quite a bit. We friends right?

merry christmas [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:04, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:Course we friends, foo! You're my only Macedonian Aussie friend; those are hard to come by! Seriously, I'm really happy that you've stayed involved in the wiki, and I admire the fact that you keep asking about things and improving your wiki skills. Thanks for saying hi for the holidays; it's a little late to return the Merry Christmas, but I hope you have a great New Year's! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Happy new year ==

Happy new year and a enjoyable year for you, see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings from M.J ==
Uh, Hi, you may not remember me but I was a long term member of the hrwiki and then got locked out with the changing of sites and re-registering and the no-annonymous-users-can-edit situation.
''{takes breath}'' anyhoo I'm back and I wanted to thank you for your support, I was going to give up on the hrwiki and never return until I got your message on my livejournal account a while back urging me to keep battling on. So Thanks! I'll show myself out -[[User:MJ|MJ]]

== thanks, abdi ==
thanks for reducing the exc. points on my guestbook. ciberdude also seems to have accidently added four 4's instead of three on his signature. that man does not know what he is doing. just like you did to me, i hope we can somehow teach him to be more familiar with the wiki. thanks to you, i'm joining the welcoming commitee. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::''{note: This edit and its reply were made after the entries below them}'' for the record i '''do''' know what i am doing. i used to be a nerd, fixing trolling, reverting stupid ideas, but then when i tried to add to the [[www.hrwiki.org|wiki]] i kept getting reverted on all the references and goofs. so i thought that the wiki must not like too streached references and i started deleting stuff but that went down hill when thise edit got reverted so i realized that all of you are exactally the kind of person [[Strong Bad|SB]] would hate. so i decided to troll and troll and troll and troll and troll [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Wow. Um, I assume you changed your mind again. But yeah, the experience you mentioned (getting reverted at first) is so common I put some stuff into my [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome|welcome template]] about it. It's tough, because everybody makes an attachment, however little, between their edits and themselves; praise for their edits is praise for them and an abrupt and ignominious death for their edits is felt personally too. And yeah, you woudn't be the first who's responded to that injury by trolling. But as I'm sure you've experienced, all that reverting at the beginning is really just the result of the wiki learning curve; like people make edits that don't match the standards or that say something that was already said elsewhere. So anyway, I hope you're finding it a little less frustrating now being "the kind of person SB would hate." (Actually, seriously, I don't think he would; he's a pretty big grammar nerd himself. But yes, the kind of personality that makes the wiki work is closer to Adrian Monk's [[Wikipedia:Obsessive-compulsive disorder|OCD]] than Strong Bad's "whatever"-ness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:''{responding to Seriously again}'' Don't mention it. And thanks for your response patching things up with Ciberdude (though I took the liberty of moving it from ''User talk:Ciberdude'' to [[User talk:Ciberdude444]]). There are some unfortunate examples on the wiki of users who are still pissed at each other and seriously make life rough; there are also ''daily'' examples of people who might have reason to be offended with each other shrugging it off and being generous about it. I encourage you to keep doing that—and not just making it so relationships with other users are "okay," but actually actively trying to improve them (i.e. calling them on it when they make a really good edit, or just making them feel good in whatever way you can). It's not just some Hallmark-Care-Bears conspiracy to make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy; it actually makes for a better website (and ultimately better people in real life!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. In other words, easy with comments like "doesn't know what he is doing." Yeah, literally, we're all learning more about how this wiki thing works every day (like just a minute ago I learned how to resize an image!). But be careful not to be insulting. (Also, I don't think there's any clue about Ciberdude's gender; assuming all online types are male can be dangerous!) Unrelatedly, cool that you're joining the welcoming committee! It's a great feeling when you get to welcome someone (though you have to have a fast trigger finger around here; the past few days I've seen, like, six new users get welcomed by other folks before I had a chance!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

nice. real nice. "quick! the carebears are coming! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
anyway, i don't even know your gender, so i can't say anyting. i'm pretty sure thunderbird is a guy, but i'll have to look into it. i'm guessing......your......a......guy? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. (Come to think of it, I guess my user page, while it tells ''everything'' else about me, doesn't mention that!) I was thinking of users like [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] who often get assumed to be guys. (And Soylent Green is a hilarious movie.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

true dat. in fact, double true.
if you know what snl skit double true is from, you get a gold star. hint: it's new. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ironically, although I ''know'' about the Chroni(what?)cles of Narnia, I haven't seen it yet. (The rap, I mean; the movie was great.) I'm-a go see if I can hunt down a copy hosted by a site my filter won't block. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
youtube.com
:Yeah, that didn't work for me, but I found one that did. Dang; now I want a cupcake! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
two. no six. no twelve. BAKER'S DOZEN!!

dude, is that not the funniest thing you have ever seen? i watch it all the time. in fact, i'ma go watch it right now. see ya. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 22:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, that was up there with the Cowbell. I think the NY Times (or was it Slate?) was right; what makes it funny isn't just that their whiteness but the extraordinary harmlessness and yuppiness of their subject matter. I'm reminded of Weird Al's ''It's All About the Pentiums''. ("I'm the king of the spreadsheets / got 'em printed out all over my bedsheets...") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

due, seriously. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==ciberdude444's at it ==
abdi, ciberdude444 has once again reverted my comment on the guestbook. i said it was okay, but i didn't think it would be like this. i don't want to edit something on his userpage, and i doubt he will listen to me. i will try anyway, but i need your help.
:Meh; it doesn't seem to me like it matters a ton either way. The question is who gets "custody"; whether you can't edit because it's his userpage or he can't edit because it's your comment. There's no official rule about it, but it seems like nobody should have to live with stuff on their userpage they don't want, or with their edits misrepresented. I think I'll revert it to your signature alone, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a really big deal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, ab! abdi! abdivi! abdiviklas! yeah, i just don't like that stuff. it's a tender relationship, we don't him to put stuff that i would assume offensive and start another argument. i just want to take things carefully. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::who needs grammar lessons now? "we don't him to put stuff " whats that suposed to mean?
:Cool. Also, with regard to the age thing, maybe the best thing you could do would be to take your real name off your page. Zillions of people could be your age, but you'd be ''amazed'' how easy it is to trace a person from their name. (In my city, at least, if you've ever voted, the info on how you're registered and your voting history, plus address, is right there on the web for free!) I've got my age on mine but don't give out my name or anything else very personally identifiable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== what do you like mostly about homestar runner? ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been i've been doing great, the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Man... actually, that's a really tough one to answer. Why ''do'' we—or I, at least—like H*R so much? I think it has a lot to do with the form it's in—relatively short cartoons updated roughly weekly for free, and all accessible at any time. I mean, let's face it; it has nowhere near the same number of laughs-per-week as, say, Simpsons or Futurama, but if H*R were on TV it would mean it would come in 30' chunks instead of 6' max, and (Tivo aside) you could only get to it at specific times, one 'toon at a time. The best time of my life was when I was watching the Strong Bad Emails for the first time, and was spending days at a time just watching them back-to-back chronologically; I think they're actually funnier that way.
:But I haven't ''really'' answered your question. What ''element'' of H*R do I like best? Well... I dunno. Do I like the randomness of its humor, or its relevence (via the "pop culture, mumble grumble" references)? Do I appreciate more its PG rating or the frequent ways it pushes that envelope (which, frankly, are funnier because they're so unexpected than the reliable shock-humor of Family Guy and related shows)? Do I enjoy Strong Bad's wittiness or Homestar's naivete (or Marzipan's activism or Strong Sad's misunderstood artistic sensibilities)? Can't say. I guess it's '''D''', all of the above!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

i kinda agree with you, the reason i like homestar runner the best on the internet, for its humour, the way it uses pop culture like simpsons a bit, and the characters. but the reason why i like it is:'

because it acts like a cartoon. i'll explain:

you see most of the things you find on the internet are either horrible violent with lots of swearing or lots of adult content. but homestar runner is nothing like it. Do you understand?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ps: i do aslo enjoy sb emails long or short toons, the characters etc.

==welcoming==
can i join the welcoming comitte? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 17:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sure! Check out [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]]; it's got all the details on how to do so. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, that kind of proves my point. ==

''"sorry, rv; "hypocrisy" seems to me to have inaccurate connotations. He doesn't *give* a darn, really, whether "jillion" is a real word."''

The fact that he doesn't give a darn is kind of the point. He holds everyone else up to quite lofty standards of perfect spelling and grammar but doesn't do the same. That is the definition of hypocrisy and being a hypocrit. "Do as I say and not as I do." -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see what you mean. But see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Strong_Bad&curid=818&diff=230061&oldid=230056&rcid=174751 reply just now] on [[Talk:Strong Bad]], disagreeing somewhat with that definition of hypocrisy. The definition you offer is certainly a common one, but I feel it's a misuse of the word. "Inconsistency" might be better. I also reverted partly because I just felt like, by itself, it wasn't that remarkable; now, if a page gets made, that would be a reason to have a remark saying something like "this is another instance of '''Strong Bad's Usage Errors'''" or the like. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== An electronic GIF! ==

Dear Sir Viklas, '''Stop'''

Please view the brand new symbol-ma-drawin' I have crafted on my electronic user page! '''Stop'''

Has fun! '''Stop'''

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== Manual of Style ==

Actually, I ''just'' added that rule (and it was because I saw the stripèd discussion, though I'd been considering it for a while), but it actually works in your favor if you count the fact that (a sentence prior) Strong Bad actually ''did'' write "striped" while pronouncing it "stripèd". Thus, this one can go either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the Appetizers/Appe-teasers example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that was actually a bad example (as "Appe'teasers'" is written in the 'toon in question in an Easter Egg, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].) But, if we were to assume that nothing was written, then you'd still want to write "Appe-teasers" because that's what was said. There are better examples out there, though... most of what Coach Z says, for instance. That was just the first thing to cross my mind. This has been the unofficial consensus for a while, actually; I was just trying to make it official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. We've got a lot of back-revising to do on it, then. But maybe before we do, at least with regard to the aspiration-of-"-ed"-suffixes issue, see my hesitance I just added to [[Talk:highschool#Accent on striped]]. I agree that using the diacritical is preferable to "stripe-ed", but—I can't get over it's funnylookiness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::One more question: What's an example of a mispronounced word where the phonetic spelling is identical to the standard spelling? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just thinking hypothetically, maybe something like pronouncing "bomb" with the final ''b'' aspirated, but not enough to transcribe as "bombuh". You'd have to add a note. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Colonel" is a good one. Currently, it's written as such on every relevant page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, now I understand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Sorry. You must be talking about my first upload. Right after I saw it had no copright notice, I went to fix it. I did so for the other 3. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:Also, will you check to see if this is ok? [[Characters#Other_Alternates]]. The teen versions. Thanks. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Looks okay to me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Edit conflicts ==

Hey there, Dr. AdbiViklas. I'm totally cool with you giving 24.239.109.228 [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:24.239.109.228&diff=prev&oldid=239289 extra instruction], but I just want to point out that noting an edit conflict is completely unnecessary in this case. In fact, most times, noting edit conflicts are unnecessary. Crapfully crap, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; I know that the general rule is "if your comment would still make sense in the flow of the page don't note it"; in this case I did note it because otherwise there wasn't much explanation for my commenting at all! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it looks unprofessional to have a note up there. You can easily reword the message and have it flow. I would agree with it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::That makes sense; I did so and also added a bit about the turn he took. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Heh. You're awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::LOL; on the wiki I seem to be permanently in schoolteacher mode, in which first-time vandals are suspendees and potential dropouts. (The alarming thing that just kind of clicked for me recently is that these users ''are'' in fact real people, and their interaction with this wiki is a window of opportunity to teach them about how to interract with others. (Yes yes, and about H*R!) That's why, although the squabbles and typos of middle-school users take up time and energy, I'm glad we have them. The whole Seriously/Totebag/Ciberdude deal is a chance for three guys either to learn that nothing's fair, no one in authority cares, and name-calling and petty revenge get results, or to learn that co-operation and community are more than smarmy buzzwords and are actually realisable and effective. Then, realizing that two of those go to the same school: what could be the exponential impact of two kids who actually believed that?) So even though chances are good he'll never come back, and even though it was kind of silly of me to do so, that's why I left that for him; I daydream that maybe he's at a formative moment in his life and the wiki could tip the balance between a life of crime and a career as a school counselor or a Doctor Without Borders or some such. It sounds cheesy, but... maybe it's not too great an exaggeration! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I just read all of that. I should print that out and save it for posterity. ''print_of_it.exe''. I don't find it silly. That's the perfect way you should treat someone like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, I added another note on the the IP user talk page noting that the article talk page (rather than STUFF) would be the best place to discuss the change he wanted to make. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::P.S. I was edit-conflicted on this edit. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::::LOL; thanks both of you. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Incidentally, what do you mean "three guys [are] either to learn that nothing's fair [and that] no one in authority cares"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think anyone's going to learn that around here! I just mean that's the burden of responsibility on us. If this place had the atmosphere that a lot of fansites and online communities in general did... well, events wouldn't have played out the way they ''did''. I leave it to your imaginations to conjecture what would have happened (hint: the ''Lord of the Flies'' allusion might not be too far off!). And from a teacher point of view, that ''is'' a lesson kids get in school far too often ("nobody cares", plus they have no agency so why bother). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I ask because my goal as an admin is to always be fair. I sincerely hope that I am not playing favorites with any one of them, instead treating them based on their actions and by the way they respond to instructions. So long as they stop squabbling, I'm willing to leave the past in the past, but if they insist on bickering, a certain train is going to be dropped. I like to think I have a good bit of patience, but I admit it's wearing quite thin. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's dot com, you ''define'' fair administration!! Yeah, of course any of the involved parties would bring that accusation (which is explained partly by adolescent developmental psych, a time when you're trying to figure out exactly what your standing in relation to others is), but I'm a witness on this one at least. As far as patience goes, that's one thing that makes me think I might make a good teacher, since I seem to have an unusually high frustration threshhold. But even I've reached it a couple of times just in the past few months of rehearsing unruly orchestras! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== im back! ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i;ve been doing great becasue i was on a 10 day holiday to the gold coast with my family. on the 5/1/06. fantastic. so whats been going on, with you?

Ps:WHats happended to bubsty, when i checked bubsty's user page, all that was written was bye wiki, whats happened?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right—very sad: evidently he's had to quit the wiki for some reason. See his talk page for many expressions of grief at his leaving, several quite eloquent. (I know you ''have'' seen it because you signed it, but I mean higher up.)
:I'm glad you had a nice vacation; it's summer for you, right? I'm in North Carolina, which is kinda southern US, and we've been having a really warm January anyway; last week it was 68° (Farenheit). But tonight it's back below freezing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== looking for an explanation ==

Why did you add the definition for decoupage to "Death Metal"'s "Explanation" section? I realize it starts with "de" and has something to do with glue. Those do not seem like enough to bother including the word in the email's wiki page.
--[[User:209.157.156.126|209.157.156.126]] 10:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; not just those, but because of Taranchula's video (some helpful anonymous IP has just now added the lyrics), ''The Decoupage''. Yeah, if it weren't for that, it would be a seriously unnecessary fact! (By the way, speaking of helpful anonymous IPs, your interest in the accuracy of the article and the fact that you knew and bothered to sign your post are a little unusual in anonymous users; have you ever considered [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|becoming a member]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey sir ==

Thanks about the poster thing. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fractured discussion ==

Hey there. One of the problems with such a multifaceted discussion is that the replies can get a little (or a lot) scattered. So I just wanted to let you know that I have replied to no fewer times than to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Other|your proposal]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Move_existing_ones_to_subpages_and_lock_them|your question here]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Comments|your comments here]], and also [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Oppose|that big long thread]] with Darth Katana X. I would read them all first before replying, as they kinda form one big thought. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

==''thanks, abdi'' 2: Son of ''[[#thanks, abdi|thanks, abdi]]''==
well, thanks to you and dot com, i now have a username. thanks a lot, i will join a lot of commitees. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

by the way, when i was an anonymous user, you said something about how if i am who you think i am, it's important that i take the plunge. i have a brother who is a wiki user, but i am on my own laptop, so it's not like you could match the ip addresses if you thought i was him. so........just who do you think i am? [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:The combination of the fact that you commented on [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]'s talk page and mentioned that someone you knew got blocked suggested that you might know either him or a couple of other users that he had some interaction with. Plus you now say on your user page that he's your brother. If I'm not mistaken, your brother's blockedness is up today or tomorrow; a couple of edits you made to his user page got reverted because we don't really let people (even siblings) edit each others' pages, but he can do them himself then. If he doesn't, bug him to; we have quite a few users who started out getting temporarily blocked and ended up as major contributors (I seem to remember there's some sysop with that story, though I can't find who it is at the moment). I hope your brother and another user who got blocked at the same time do exactly that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is the name you're looking for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks; that was my hunch, but I couldn't verify it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::yeah, now i am unblocked, and i feel great about it. by the way, no, i didn't tell him to do those edits (although he said i did) and he really won't be on that much anymore. this website is too cool for him. plus, he said he just wanted to try it out, y'know? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

wait, why did you change the headline to a familiar joke that's on the tip of my tongue? well, you are a teacher, and i am a caps-hating 11 year old with poor grammar (but good spelling!), so you would know it better than i would. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=246006&oldid=246003 LOL]! Perhaps this might be a sign of archival necessities. Even I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=prev&oldid=218187 have been asked] to archive... and you're at 70! :) Welcome to the wiki [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] and [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]!! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yeltensic&diff=246355&oldid=246350 seriously].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you, stux, but i have been on the wiki since nov. 8. and thank you for the backup on that comment. i just think it should be reworded. also, sice the guestbooks are going soon, please sign mine. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

oh, wait. you already have. thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Lol. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::yeah, if ever evidence that i was an idiot, that was it. ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad you're back, Will; I meant what I said above (and mean it for Ciberdude as well). In answer to your question, I realized that the section heading your brother used originally was the exact same you had used higher on the page, and it confused the browser when it tried to jump to the section. I'm not sure what exactly I'm referencing with the "Son of", other than the stereotypical 30s-monster-movie sequels that get referenced all the time (''Son of Dracula! · Bride of Frankenstein! · Second Cousin Once Removed of Wolfman!''). At least I didn't say ''Electric Boogaloo''. And as for archiving, Stux, despite the recent caving of a prominent holdout, I'm being obstinate. I don't see a particular need to yet, especially since I just recently discovered that ctrl+home and ctrl+end jump to the top or bottom of a page instantly! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I hate to break it to you (ok not really) but lemme tell you a little secret... for web pages, Home and End works just as well! ;) Well, the ball is rollin', I'm sure that circumstances (and pressures ;)) will chage... :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== (Not so) random encouragement for your recent efforts ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've been incredibly busy (like to the point of consecutive all-nighters) for the past week, so I just dropped in and don't know how much I might have missed (though I'm piecing together a picture that involves iPods, sockpuppets, Animal Crossing, and the like. I'm probably going to be similarly sparse for the next week; I don't count on sleeping tonight, anyway! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey there, hope all's going well for you. We miss you when you're not around. I should probably be pulling all-nighters too (and not all-nighter troll fights, like I did Saturday), with the work I have to do. But I'm not. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um, I have 8 words for you: Wow! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ok now that I've made my obligatory short random message, on to the real random message. But i don't have much time to talk so I'll try to be briefer than brief. By um, our standards :). Excellent points on the [[HRWiki_talk:Guestbooks]] article! I like the ideas, though right now I don't have the time nor the imagination to be that creative. Still, I like it. I brings hope in a otherwise tense and (not) hopeless situation. I brings an alternative to a post guestbook-alyptic world. It's the feel good movie -- er I'm getting carried away. But seriously, what I'm trying to say is this: to me there seemed there was much tension that arose with the guestbook situation (and certain events didn't help things), more so than with most issues. Your options and optimism, I think, will help ease those fears and tensions in some of our users. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==We Are The Wiki==
''This is an expansion of an idea from [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities]].'' 
     The recent [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]] phenomenon brought into discussion a tension that has been around for a while. Specifically, many who supported guestbooks felt that HRWiki is, or should be, a place for H*R fans to interact. Others pointed out that it is a "knowledge base," and that its activity should be limited to the upkeep of its content, and pure socializing done in other venues such as the forum. "I'm ... hesitant" about my own position on this issue, and the wording I used in the "Guestbook replacement" suggestions reflects a hope that the wiki's fun (maybe even frivolous?) functions and its documentary function are not mutually exclusive. 
     The fact is, though, some of my suggestions (based on current user practices) toy with a fine and elusive line in [[HRWiki:User space]]. My suggestions included saying hi to other users on their talk pages and featuring content on your user page that provokes responses on your talk page. Now a few quotes from [[HRWiki:User space]] include (emphasis added):
*''Your user talk page is for other users to discuss matters ''related to the Wiki'' with you.
*''Generally, you should avoid any ''substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki''. Examples include ... ''discussion not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki'' ... excessive personal information ... opinion pieces not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki or other non-encyclopedic material...''
     By a strict reading, this could be taken to mean that ''any'' discussion on a Talk page or a User talk page that is not ''directly'' related to a matter of editing is in noncompliance. I'm not going to take the trouble or embarrassment of linking to examples, but I suspect every user here has at some time been party to a discussion that had nothing immediately to do with H*R or the wiki. However, there are several (intentionally) vaguely-defined phrases in there: Just how much is "substantial content"? How much personal information is "excessive"? How much opinion constitutes a "piece"? But the Great Loophole is this line:
*''Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.''
     This, dear friends, is the text of my sermon today. This line expresses—guardedly and with many qualifications—a recognition that certain "not strictly 'on-topic'" behaviors may in fact be not simply permissible but indirectly beneficial. It does not go on to specify what these behaviors "at their worst" might do, but recent events certainly helped us imagine. So it is with great care, my brothers, yea with gravity and trepidation, that we invoke this clause. It is not intended to justify chaos, or to effortlessly nullify the injunctions above it. Yet invoke it I must, and I do so with sobriety and deference. 
     'Nuff preacher-talk. So: what is this clause? Is it a contradiction? Is it a weak concession to the fact that we all chat a little here and there, and it doesn't seem to be killing us? What about that last sentence: "At their best, such activities help us build the community, and this helps us to build the knowledge-base." Do you really believe that, or is it just a pleasant fiction softened by euphemism? What ''is'' this "community" of which we speak so often? 
     (Now, a disclaimer: I don't know a lot about "Wiki" philosophy overall; I've never been involved with Wikipedia and know little of its ideological history. When I say "wiki" I'm speaking specifically of HRWiki, and what I've observed here.) But I'll tell you what I've seen: I've seen people on the Eastern seaboard, the Pacific coast, Texas, Canada, Israel, Australia-by-way-of-Macedonia, and everywhere in between talking, collaborating, and knowing each other's "names" and personalities, not just demographics. I've seen users genuinely broken up over the "departure" of people they've never seen or shaken hands with—which would be odd behavior for a group of cyber-librarians who just happen to be simultaneously working on a database. I've seen users respond to vandal attacks, some of them massive, not with a language of personal injury ("Oh no, what'll ''I'' do?" "Look at all this I've got to revert!"), but calling each other by name and encouraging each other. I've seen users take great pride in their personal contributions, presumably experiencing the joy of accomplishment and becoming incrementally better defended against the paralysis of percieved incompetence. I've seen users engage in heated—often turbulent—disagreement, and learn, albeit by trial and error, how to do so in a civil, productive, and charitable way. 
     Let's step back for a sec. What are you doing? You're sitting on your butt looking at a computer—which is displaying an "opinion piece" about a wiki—which attempts to chronicle and analyze every minutest detail of an internet cartoon—which itself consists of some eccentric and anatomically deficient characters saying a few minutes of funny things on roughly a weekly basis. Is this feeding children in Africa? Is it curing cancer? Is it impacting the policies and actions of national or local governments? Well—hold that thought. My point is: '''what is the ultimate purpose of this wiki?''' Yes, recent discussions have precipitated a restatement that its primary purpose, it's ''raison d'etre'', is to be a knowledge base, documenting H*R cartoons. But its primary purpose does not disallow secondary purposes, and I see its potential for teaching "community" to be a compelling one. If, through this wiki, even one person learns how to work collaboratively with others, to encourage each other's efforts, and above all how do disagree with someone and debate that opinion in an open, respectful, and supportive way, ''and'' if these lessons transfer over into real life, then something much greater has happened than simply transcribing a web cartoon. And it ''could'' very well impact the society and governance of neighborhoods and nations. 
     This brings me to the title of this section. '''We are the wiki.''' The wiki is binary data on a server, yes, but without us it would be static. Furthermore, because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=157523&oldid=157522 the wiki is a liquid], it assumes the contour of its container, the users. If we were replaced with a different set of users, the wiki would become fundamentally different. A gardening model is not adequate for the wiki—we are not groundskeepers, who come in and work on "the wiki"; we ''are'' an integral and vital part of it. If there is an analogy, maybe we're like a good sports play—ahem, sports ''team'': the members of a baseball team all work together on something (the game), but if they all got up and left "the game" wouldn't remain (just a stadium full of very surprised fans). You see what this means? Nearly every user here expresses some desire to "help the wiki," "maintain the wiki," or otherwise contribute to its upkeep and improvement. The most immediate way to do that, certainly, is to edit mainspace articles. But tending to relationships with other users—cultivating them, pruning them, mediating them, and healing them—is every bit as much a way of improving the wiki. 
     On the flipside, that's what's so terrible about [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|true trolls]] (as opposed to vandals): Just as vandals attack the digital, visible fabric of the wiki, trolls attack the relational, social fabric of it. A vandal simply aspires to scrawl a few lines of graffiti; a troll aspires to tear ''us'' apart. Which is more insidiously devestating? A vandal can be reverted and blocked in seconds. The damage of trolling, if accomplished, is far harder to repair. So if you consider yourself a "troll fighter," take a deep breath and a look in the mirror before replying hastily to another user: when you damage a relationship, ''you'' are the troll. And keep in mind that, unlike the many defensive tools we have against vandalism, our ''only'' defense against this vulnerability is the intentional, calculating, untiring maintenance of our "community" ties—in other words, working specifically on "being friends." 
     This is where the last phrase of that Loophole gets its justification. "Building the community" does ''indeed'' "help to build the knowledge base." It defends and perpetuates it, and gives it a greater excuse for existing than the Flash-based antics of an Internet phenomenon. And for that reason there ''is'' an excuse for User talk content to go beyond "What's up with this edit?" and "Please delete a personal pic." ''As long as'' the activity is kept within reasonable bounds, and does ''not'' in fact impede the wiki's primary functioning—and ''if'' it is ''meaningfully effective'' at building relatinships—then it is not simply irrelevent frivolity; it is in fact... the Work of the Wiki. 
     Whew! That was long! If you just read all that, thanks and I'm sorry! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Don't be sorry. What you wrote was true to the deepest. '''We''' are the Wiki. You, me, the gnomes, the admins, the fanstuffers, the forumers, the developers, those who left, those who lurk, those that always complain that they spend too much time on "Dumb animal characters". '''We''' are all part of this, and I know it sounds like a cliché, but we must continue joining together for a common couse. It's hard to write as long as you do, but I just want to say: '''Thank you HRWiki.''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::You just said exactly what I've wanted to say ever since I joined this Wiki. At the risk of sounding like a complete nerd, I truly have to say that the friendships I've built on this Wiki are better than some of my friendships in real life. What I love about this Wiki is that you feel this sense of community that is hard to feel on other HUGE wikis like Wikipedia. Everyone knows each other, everyone participates in discussions, and everyone here has one thing in common: Homestar Runner. Thank you AbdiViklas. Thank you to everyone working on this Wiki, for you are not really working on the Wiki, '''You are the Wiki itself.''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That was by far the smartest thing I have ever heard. Like has matt, That's what I have been so afraid to say all along. It's so, so true. Amazing. You, sir, are in the skys, in the empire of great writers like Jack London, and pretty much everyone who has inspired me. Thank you. {{User: Seriously/sig}}

== Personal Images ==

I draw you attention to [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images|Sir Strong Bad's]] talk page where you offered to take one of Sir Strong Bad's personal images for your own so that he will be in compliance with the image policy. Please choose one of the following images and claim as your own if you have an image slot to spair by inserting your name into the <nowiki>{{personal-image|Sir Strong Bad}}</nowiki> tag:
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d0/SSB%27s_Gang.gif SSB's_Gang.gif] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/be/SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/24/B_and_W_Swedish_Fish.jpg B and W Swedish Fish.jpg] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/0/0c/Macedonia_B_and_W.jpg Macedonia B and W.jpg] </s>
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Homsar_Old_timey_bandit.PNG Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/9/91/homestaryodlebw.PNG homestaryodlebw.PNG] </s>

I show that you have 2 empty personal image slot. Thanks, have a great day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
:I took the fish. I would have sooner, but I wasn't sure whether it required anything more elaborate than changing the template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Kaption Kontest ==
Yeah, could I follow the rules by making it on my [[User:Seriously/old captions|Archive]]? Also, I strongly disagree with this rule when it's only a bit of fun. There is no con to people editing my userpage; unless it's the ever-hated guestbook signing or vandalizing (obviously.) I would like you to consider letting me keep it as it presents no immediate harm. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, why havn't you been on? I miss seeing comments with 100 lines just to fit your ideas. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL; because the 100 lines have been going into school-related activities. I was far more active in December and January since I had less work. Expect higher involvement in March, declining in April, and nearly non in mid-May, with a sudden spike around the last week. And a 60% chance of rain.
::Now then, about the captions: I guess it's not a hard-'n'-fast ''rule'' per se at the moment, and it's certainly not a matter of ''making'' you move it. What we ''do'' have in the way of suggestions on the topic: It's dot com says in [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities|HRWiki talk:Guestbooks]], "Please note that you should not encourage people to edit your user page, for any reason." [[HRWiki:User space#What can I have on my user page?|HRWiki:User space]] says "In general, avoid editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct any linking errors that might confuse readers. However, some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect." This clearly means that non-owner edits aren't ''completely'' forbidden. It also hints at a possibility that the owner could encourage the edits of others, though from context and when it was written, I imagine it means an invitation to feel free to correct mistakes or improve content (for instance, [[User:FireLily]], [[User:Ppk01#Japanese_Character_Names]], or [[User:Thechamp#Links_and_stuff]]). That would probably result in much less frequent non-owner editing than a recurring feature. So yeah, I'm certainly not "making" you move it, but I still suggest it. Kinda using your argument against you, what would it hurt? Well... I suppose even if you kept the image and an "edit!" link on your user pages, the captions wouldn't be with it. I was thinking there might be some way, via [[Wikipedia:Transclusion|Transclusion]], to keep the content elsewhere, have users edit elsewhere, but have it show up on your user page. I did a test in the sandbox that seemed like that didn't work, but I haven't given up on it yet. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Update: I wasn't able to get transclusion to work in my brief test. I tried putting <nowiki>{{User:AbdiViklas/welcome}}</nowiki> here, as my only subpage, and as expected it appeared. Then I went and edited the original welcome subpage and saved, but the edit didn't appear here on refresh. I'll have to submit this to those who know more about how this place works. '''Attention: 'elp!''' Is live transclusion (including updates being reflected) only for the Template namespace? Or did my test not work because the changes take more than a few seconds to propagate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Regarding transclusion: give it another go, but this time instead of a browser refresh, give the page an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&action=purge action=purge]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Cool. But I was just now trying it with [[HRFWiki:Sandbox]], since It's dot com asked that the contest be moved to Fanstuff, and I guess transclusion doesn't work interwiki? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Nope, no interwiki transclusion. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Ach wohl. (For Heimstern's benefit!) So I guess, unless It's dot com's cool with it being on a subpage, the best you can do is put the image and a link on your user page. You could of course update it manually when someone adds to it over at Fanstuff. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me. ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wow; congratulations! I've got a couple of awards [[#GVBAoA|higher up on this page]], but not pizza-based! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Pizza's always better. It also feels good that this trophy is actually taken seriously, as it seems it means much more to users than I thought it did. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Google fight? ==

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/TheKookyOne/googlefight_kooky_abdi.png 
Well, you've beat me again, comrade! ''(Though, I must wonder, what 22,500 people would want to look us up so bad?)'' =P I'm just stopping by to say hi, considering it's been a while since I was around here. How've things been? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Egad—and just browsing the first few pages of those results ''are'' all posts of mine on here (plus a few on various tech support boards)! Is it really possible that I've made over <s>11,000</s> eleventyhundred edits? I'm not sure whether that's an accomplishment or a monumental squandering of time! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd lean towards "monumental squandering". Except I'm only 300 results behind you. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::: Yeah, well, I beat both of you ''combined''! 'Course it helps that my user name is an English word... :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah that's cuz you [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Jay cheated] :-p (at 157,000,000). For non common names I have Abdi and Kookyk [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Stux beat]: 287,000 to 14,100. But the ultimate winner has to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=It%27s+dot+com&word2=Stux Dot com]: weighin in at 501,000. Not to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Tom&word2=Jay outdone], Jay is easily outclassed by Tom at a whopping 539,000,000. Congratulbalatitaitions Tom! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::But Stux is a Linux program, isn't it? So most of those hits are not you. I get 26,500 hits, and you can guarantee they're all me! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Aw, I'm only at 1190 ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''EDC:''' Well... yeah (I'm surprised that you even know about it! I just learned that it existed today!) but I don't mind counting an OS named after me! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Mine is 239,000,000. That's just awesome. But what did I do to get so much? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Probably the fact that like Stux, Jay, and Tom, your username is also a word (and in your case, a common noun) that Google would find in other contexts. What's entertaining is pitting two [[Wikipedia:Egosurfer|ego-surfs]] against each other; for instance, my brother's name beats mine handily, despite the fact that I actually have a "real" entry (i.e. related to me) in the second page of my Google results, whereas his are all about some middle school and a guy who got the Victoria Cross. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Hey Abdi. It is my pleasure to announce that you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges and responsibilities. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. May you always use your powers for good and for awesome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Great jorb Abdi. You've deserved it all to much {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, congratulations. ^-^ Keep on doin' great things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Congratulations man! notstrongorbad just became a bit stronger, but still not badder. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Abdi. My main man. My ace in the hole. Well, a few months ago I would never have thought I'd beat you to sysophood, even by one day. Man, music grad students as sysops? Can the wiki '''handle this??!!''' Anyway, glad you're on board. Oh, and I still hope for Homestravinky Runner to be realised someday. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congradulations, AbdiViklas, AKA Notstrongnorbad, AKA Professor Tor Coolguy. Your devotion to the project and your long esseys about the site are the glue that keeps us together. You brought happiness and tolarance to the wiki in your own special way. You deserve this promotion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:Everyone, didn't I say this would happen? Huh? You and Lapper? In IRC? With excessive question marks? Hey, congrats. You're a great user, Abdi! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::From the minute you welcomed me, I knew you had syop potential. You're a truly great user, man. I'm glad this has finally happened to you. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::And two more. Does this mean I have to come up with more H*R-themed "congrats"? Uh... Oh, well, congratulations! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Congratulations! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well! For the longest time, I had thought you were a sysop - you welcomed me (and it wasn't until later that I realized you didn't have to be a sysop to do that), and you've always made outstanding edits to the wiki. I've certainly enjoyed working on this wiki with you and the rest of the gang <s>up here at Possum Lodge</s> - you're administra-awesome! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:Congrats, Abdi. I wasn't in on the decision (I wasn't back from hiatus until yesterday), but you'll be a great asset to our sysop team. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

'''OSCAR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH:''' Thank you—thank you all—<sob> ... so very much... Seriously, I appreciate youse guys' appreciation and encouragement; you're all swell gents (and... gentesses?). If you haven't noticed, I haven't been around so much lately; my school time requirements have been a lot higher since the beginning of February than they were before. But I still intend to show up ''at least'' once a week or so, and like all things, this crunch shall pass. So, until I poke my nose in again, Chins up! Tifle down! And so on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas (2) ==

How are you, anything happen to you recently?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'll say! In just the past week I: 1) Got a new dual-chip [http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn laptop computer] (with a coupon, got one worth $2,800 for $2,000), 2) got into a wreck—don't worry, I wasn't hurt at all and neither was anybody else—but my car was totalled and now I have to find a new one, and 3) was made a sysop! (And 4, made some Jambalaya. But it was already a day after Mardi Gras, so as a tribute to New Orleans it was a little late.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry about your car. Although it's still pretty awesome you were maqde a sysop, so that helps a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== You no old, man! ==

Since when is being over twenty-five old? An emcee that age would be considered very young. You're not old until you start ''acting'' old in my opinion. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Well, ''I'' feel old. I think it's when you ''feel'' old that it counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, considering that I routinely act about 16, I guess you've got a point, Darth. (That can be a little problematic when trying to ''teach'' 16-year-olds; I keep getting into discussions about Inuyasha...) But it does mean something when your closest friends stop saying things like "So where are we going tonight?" and start saying things like "So good to hear from you! Remind me of your phone number; I seem to have lost it." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::You sound like my mom. She's a teacher, too. Only, my mom likes ''Halo'' more than ''Inuyasha''. She, like, walks right past the bad guys and they don't even notice. She's also smart like you, too. My mom actually liked screamo metal rock before I did, and I started liking it because she listened to it all the time. And Dorian, I feel old all the time, but not right now because I'm on a sugar high...and I feel so alive...for the very first time...and if I have any more cookies I'll probably get so hyper I'll fly, fly (only P.O.D. nerds will get that). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== totally kill all imposters! ==

Hmmmmm... I have no idea how that happenned. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Ed smildE|Ed smilde]]/[[User talk:Ed smildE|talk]]

== Happy easter ==

Hello abdiviklas how are, how's easter (If you celebrate it?)?

What have you been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hi! My Easter was great; I spent most of the morning playing my violin in church (which isn't exactly like most churches' Easter service; our worship leader is a former R&B guitarist from Alabama, so my playing style in church is less classical and more a mix of Dave-Mathews-type rock and old-timey Appalachian-type sounds). I spent most of the rest of the day working on my taxes (which are due today) and making [http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipes/meat-poultry/greekmeatballs-cb.html "Greek" meatballs] (except I mixed ground lamb with the beef) with [http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/indian/00/rec0055.html cucumber raita]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::Glad to hear it. Let's hope the rest of the year is as kind. (And maybe with a little bit less tax mess. =p) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Hey, just to let you know... ==

Wiki grrl is my best friend. Pardon her grammer; she'll correct it. I told her about homestar a long time ago and now she finally created an account here. The "bug swallow" thing on her userpage is because one of her favorite quotes from here is the whole routine Homestar goes through when he swallows a bug in Bug In Mouth Disease. Just thought you might want to know. And don't ask about PEP. I can't tell you. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 21:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. I love it when people who know each other in "real life" are on the wiki. And I'm glad she finds [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] funny; I have a hard time doing so. I try, I really try, on a regular basis, but each time I come to the end of the toon feeling a little dissapointed. Funny how one person's favorite can be another's least favorite and vice versa! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

==Typo==
Holy cow. Thank you a hecka ton for catching that spelling mistake. I ment to say "Marzipan was originally intended to be Homestar's '''''girl'''''friend." Thanx for catching that. Now, should I post the revised fact somewhere on the page? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 20:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:My gut says no. The same thing is already said more fully at [[Marzipan]], but there it's speaking of character depth (i.e. just there as a "Homestar accessory"). Putting it in an article about their relationship and wording it as "originally intended to be" makes it sound like she isn't anymore. And I've known people with ''way'' more off-and-on relationships than Homestar and Marzipan who would still refer to each other as "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings and explanations ==

First off, thanks for streamlining the not-for-profit thing on the [[space program]] article. Your edit was what I thought of doing in the first place, but I thought it might be a bit presumptuous. After seeing someone else do it, I realize I was worrying about nothing.

Second, in response to the comment you affixed to a recent edit of [[band names]], Aerosmith is a misspelling of "arrowsmith", old term for someone who specialized in making arrows. When MTV did a 10th anniversary special, Mel Gibson did a segment introducing the band Aerosmith, and the segment started off with him making an arrow the old-fashioned way, with a big hammer and stuff, and as he was admiring his handiwork, he acted as if someone off-camera was talking to him and said "what? oh, the ''band'' Aerosmith? oh..." I hadn't actually heard the word before that, and I researched it and discovered that that's actually where the band got their name. It's a fairly obscure term these days, so it's not really a surprise that many people don't know the word (and the wing motif on their album covers coinciding with the "aero" prefix just confuses things even more). - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 10:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you learn something new every day! Especially my first thought for "someone who makes arrows" is "[http://www.tfd.com/Fletcher fletcher]". It was a little hard to track down, but [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Arrowsmith arrowsmith] does appear to be legit, though. (Nonetheless it's still a good candidate for the "two will do" principle; otherwise why not add Boyz II Men, Korn, Weezer, the Beetles, or the zillions of "ska"-derived names?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
== Yeah, Music Ed. Majors! ==
Hey! Thanks for the post on my talk page, I think it's always awesome to meet other musicians. The world doesn't have enough of us these days - at least, not enough good ones. Hillary Duff and Brittany Spears don't come close to counting! What's really awesome is that you studied at one of my top choices for Graduate school. (I'm getting my Masters and Doctorate Degrees in Performance, and Eastman has quite a track record in the trumpet world!) I'm also looking at Northwestern, CCM, Juliard, and DePaul, in no particular order. It's also nice to know that there are other Music people who waste as much time on this as I do, and likely more... {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 03:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strike! ==

I agree w/ you on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=senior_prom&curid=23493&diff=320901&oldid=320874&rcid=269236&hrwiki_mwiki6_session=a5568b8e1e114a5b647cdfc23672fe28 senior prom edit], but could you post what you summarized in the [[Talk:senior prom#Summary/Relevance|talk discussion]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== (No subject) ==

6 days 'go responded to that on my talk page case you wanted to look at that. I'm starting to sound like Strong Sad here...

Yoshi minus nothing 05:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Eating The Cheat ==

I think the line about eating The Cheat comes from [[narrator]] where Strong Bad says "surprised Strong Mad hasn't eaten The Cheat already", or something to that effect. Don't you love how someone can find an answer to a question so fast around this place? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm glad you can! Several "site:" searches in Google failed to do it for me. Of course I was searching for "eat", not "eaten", which explains it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::I have some sort of urge to make a joke about "eat or be eaten", but I can't think of the wording... Hmm... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== How Do You Do It? ==

AdbiViklas, How do you do it? The long essay-like answers to questions others dare not ask. Your likely answer to this question will be, "It come naturally when your older!" But after further speculation I realized your one of the most astoundingly literate and brilliant people I have ever met. Such brain power is often looked over where I live sadly, but I see that you and a lot of people on this wiki are smart and really deserve to be recognized. Thank you for you time, {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, anything happen to you recently? Anyway, what have been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:Mostly looking for jobs. I'll be graduating in a week, and want to go ahead and be teaching by the start of the school year. The problem is there aren't that many schools that have orchestra programs and no teacher. There's one about a 45-minute drive from me, and a couple others about a 3-hour drive from me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== You're in Durham? ==

I'm in Clayton, less than an hour from you. I'll be in Durham on tuesday, going to a Bulls game. Later this summer, I'm moving to Laurinburg, though.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Ha! How about that? Yeah, Bull games are fun. I should go now that I'm done with school (and before I start again on the teaching end of it!). Minor leage baseball is the way to go: you can get in for roughly the cost of a movie, sit close enough that you can actually ''see'' the players as something other than moving dots, and there's always the $1 concessions days or fireworks shows afterward. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, my team is usually the Mudcats. Anyway, Charlotte murdered them, 7-0.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey, I was ''at'' that game! Yeah, my dad works for the [http://www.heraldsun.com Herald-Sun], and had four passes, so he just called me up that afternoon. It was kind of hard to get into the game when we never scored a run, but hey, I had a bratwurst and a bag of peanuts, and that's what really matters. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

::::No kidding? Both my parents work for the [http://www.newsobserver.com N&O].--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heh; I'm just finishing up a year's subscription to them. It would always have seemed a little traitorous before, but since the Herald-Sun was taken over by some outside company and became a lousy place to work, it was okay. Actually, as of this week, my Dad ended his 10 or so years at the paper and is now an editor at, of all things, a magazine for accountants. Yeah, N&O rocks. Sadly, since I'm moving to Fayetteville, I'll be missing it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I'm pretty sure you can still get the N&O in Fayetteville. My Dad grew up there, and that's where my parents met, at the Fayetteville Observer. Oddly enough, Laurinburg is less than an hour from there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Cool; maybe I should look into extending my subscription. I'll actually be renting a sweet, sweet house in Stedman, pop. 600, about 10 minutes' drive east of Fayetteville. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Slowly Going the Way of an MxPx Reference ==

When you said that thing about guestbooks "slowly going the way of the buffalo or MxPx" months ago, I didn't get it. Well, my mom and dad came back from dinner a couple of days ago and my mom had bought me an MxPx disc...guess which one? ;) Now I get it. Man...how come you're cooler than me? LOL.

It's a ''really'' good album, too. "Tomorrow's Another Day" is an awesome song. Oh yeah, and did you ever hear MxPx's cover of "Drum Machine Joy" by Joy Electric? I'm hunting down that EP right now just for that one song! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:LOL; maybe I know about these things because that album came out when I was in high school. I had a friend who was very indie/punk/underground-oriented; he introduced me to Sixpence (which at the time had more the connotation of Whitestripes and less... well, the romantic-comedy-soundtrack staple they became), Five Iron, Joy Electric, Echoing Green, and other much more obscure and long-forgotten quirky groups, while I introduced him to Shostakovich and other kick-butt classical music. In an interesting twist of fate, he's now a drummer in Chapel Hill's healthy indie scene, taking lessons from his childhood idol, Sixpence drummer Dale Baker, who now has a [http://www.newsobserver.com/697/story/454402.html second life as a father and Montessori preschool teacher in my town]. But no, aside from the tracks on ''8-Ball'' samplers, I never heard that much of Joy Electric or MxPx. Five Iron and (yes, I admit) Reliant K are my ska/punk of choice, and I don't really go beyond them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

::Cool! :) By the way, the lead singer of Sixpence is doing a [http://www.leighnash.com/ solo project] which looks pretty interesting. I'll keep you updated on how that's going. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== After a hefty hiatus... ==

I, {{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}, RETURN to the electronically communicating world of '''2007!''' '''Stop'''

My blasted '''Telly 400''' was swiped from the very comfort of my domecile, and upon it's return.. '''Stop'''

I was shocked to realize that the bloody roustabanks had cut off her '''little toe'''!!! '''Stop'''

What was one to do without the comma key!? '''Stop'''

I had no choice but to begin a quest... or.. send The Sneak.. on a worldwide search for my beloved Telly's little toe! '''Stop'''

To my great delight, it was returned and I can once again begin heckling the inhabitants of the '''post-modern Free Country USA!!''' '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== An electronic request ==

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Dear Sir Viklas STOP 

I wish to inform you that some of our gang members have left the Wiki! STOP 

I would like to ask you for somewhat of a favor if you feel up to it. STOP 

 
Dapperly yours,

Sir Strong Bad
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== Not an active thread... ==

...but nevertheless it is nice to know that somebody still visits my page! And yes, obviously I do too. Dang, I guess I need a little bit of an update, don't I? I did the whole public school teaching thing for a year, and the short version is I found out I'm not a good enough "disciplinarian" to do it well, and really don't think I'd be happy even if I were. Basically I had time to eat and sleep—no, wait, just to sleep—well, not like every night, you know.... So my wikitivity was pretty limited. Since then, I've gone back to teaching one person at a time, and am much happier. I'm even teaching some freshmen at a well-known university that starts with a "D" and rhymes with "puke".... But I'm still pretty much as busy (it's just okay, because it's busy for my own stuff instead of things I'm forced to do), and don't really expect my activity to go much beyond logging on once a Monday update's brouhaha has died down and fixing anything I might notice. But I just want all y'all to know I'm still around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, here's another ex-teacher who left it - my reason is that I had to make administrators happy before I made kids smart. Not the order of operations in my manual. Anyway, glad you are still around and take care of business. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
And another update: On Christmas Eve I got engaged! Sadly, my fiancée is Homestar-illiterate. As you can imagine, that won't last long. Also, Heimstern might be interested to know that I'm thinking about a DMA... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:Congrats, dude! Abdi may be interested to know that... well, I burned out on my PhD and am not pursuing it anymore. Maybe someday, but not now. At least I got out with that M.A. signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger (interesting thing that happens when you graduate from the University of California). So, I'm not in school anymore, which I think is for the best. If you do decide on getting a DMA, I've no doubt you'll have a great experience. Has fun! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hey Abdi! Long time no see! Congratulations on the engagement! I also wish you the best in your DMA (should you choose to pursue it). On my end, my PhD and MS pursuits are also on hold. If you have time, you should swing by [[HRW:IRC|IRC]] sometime! Cheers! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Is my signature too big to fit the Wiki's guidelines? Thanks!

{{User:Evershiner/sig}} 23:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Evershiner: It looks okay to me!
:{{sigbox|User:Evershiner/sig}}
:Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks! I'm guessing its a tad too big, but I don't think that will make a big difference. Hope not! If any of you think I can't get away with it, please let me know! Thanks so much!

== Baby daddy ==

Combolations! How great for you and Mrs. Viklas! (I'm assuming it is she who'll be doing most of the work.) Do you konw the sex? I'm guessing girl. Keep us updated, and don't be such a stranger! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:No, it's just 9 weeks along. At 19 weeks, though, I definitely want to spring for the [[Wikipedia:3D ultrasound|3D ultrasound]]! And yeah, somehow we both have a hunch it's a girl... just a hunch. — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Abdi! What up man? Congratulations on the soon-to-be mini-Abdi! I'm sure he or she will be a very healthy baby! Good to see your doing well. Feel free to swing by IRC if you have free time. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh: It's a girl!! (We'll resist the temptation to name her What's Her Face. I'm not sure the grandparents would approve.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::My guess was right! Combolations! You should name her Elizagerth. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, yeah, Elizabeth Anne! Hm... guess who might have just gotten a new nickname... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, man! Congratulations on the new baby, wife, degree, life, and all the other things you recently updated on your user page. I don't know how seeing you name on the recent Cheat Commandos toon talk page brought a smile to my face. How have you been? I myself haven't edited the wiki in also a long time, so I just lurk around. Glad to see an old friend return to visit once more! (My last year or so can be summed up [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AE.L._Cool&diff=647851&oldid=550294 here], if you're interested.) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude. If March 19th was 9 weeks, that would make this week about 40 weeks. News? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, somebody gets their merit badge in stayin-on-top-of-things! Yes, due date is Friday, and no, she's still hiding! Any day now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Looking for advice ==

Hi, I've had this account for a while, but I've never really used it. When I joined, you sent a welcome message on my talk page, so now I thought I'd seek your advice on something.
I had an idea for a page and don't know whether or not it's notable enough: Noses. It seems to be a running gag, what with several toons mentioning them specifically, and many characters lacking them. I don't know how many examples I need for it to be a viable page in it's own right. Any advice on this would help. Thanks --[[User:DoctorWorm|DoctorWorm]] 10:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:Gee, I'd never noticed just how much there ''is'' about noses until I searched for them just now! Still, I think that's covered in [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]], both in the sections on "Strong Bad's Nose" and "Other" (Marzipan's nose job). Nice to see you back around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Spoons

AbdiViklas — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:03:24 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Is this page useful? */ more essay

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{{tbd|Discussion in progress regarding whether this page actually describes a useful guideline|speedy=false}}
Now, I don't agree with this. Let's go hypothetical and assume that I'm the sort of sad person who would make a Wiki about a house. What would come first? The rooms of course, let's say those are the main characters and the toons too, but then, since I'm trying to make a full knowledge base of my house, I put in my TV, my TV isn't some huge thing, I have three TVs, lets say they represent [[Senor Cardgage]], he doesn't appear often, but he is large enough to merit an important page, even a featured one. So

I have the stuff I use most on now. I have the TAVI equilivent of my Wiki on my house. But people begin to say, 'Why don't you have other stuff on your Wiki, you must have more stuff somewhere, all you put on is big things!'.

So I go and create a page about the paintings in my house on this Wiki, and a page about my laser printer, and slowly, in my quest for full documentation of my house, I put on cutlery, and then I split it into spoons. I have achieved everything now. My knowledge base is complete.

The point of all this crap is, if we are trying to document ALL of Homestar Runner, we need little things like that, otherwise it isn't complete, and then people will create those pages. Why can't we have a complete Wiki I ask you. Not everything needs to be interesting. Just like not everything in Homestar is very interesting...[[tape leg]].--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 10:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

:We should really only document stuff that someone might want to read. Whenever you write something, you must keep the readers in mind: will anybody read this? If not, there's no point in writing it. We dont' edit this wiki for editing's sake but to build a knowledge base that holds information that our readers (and ourselves, obviously) are interested in. Now, we CAN have [[Spoons]], [[Toons that do not contain the letter "X"]], [[Toons that use the color #FFE]] and so on. But there's no point. It's a waste of time, energy and also a little money. It's not only a waste of time for the ones who create those articles, it's also a waste of time for those who edit, correct, format, discuss and delete them. This wiki is a team effort, and every page that is created affects many people.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

::Loafing, I find the last part of your reply disappointing. The wiki is a waste of time for you? Don't read it! Editing wastes your time? You don't have to do it! If you have other things to do, then do them by all means. Don't let the wiki stop you. I can show you at least 50 other users from varying levels of participation that edit the wiki solely for the sake of enjoyment.
::Now, about the subject in matter, I don't have as much time as I would like to respond to this, which I will do later, but let me leave you with this: One man's spoon article is another man's featured. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:22, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Well after the bell, but I must respond. Loafing was not saying editing the wiki is a waste of time, energy, and a little money. He's saying (and I agree) that writing and editing articles that are not worth reading is a fool's errand. The point of this policy is to describe what kind of article will be of general interest and will be read and useful.
:::As far as "don't edit" as a solution, well, I might remind everyone that we all shape how things are done. A "love it or leave it" attitude isn't healthy amongst positive contributors. Rather, I'd advise "love it but work to make it better". I am certain Loafing enjoys working on the wiki, so that's a straw man argument you raised.
:::Finally, I'd restate your closing remark as "One man's spoon article belongs in a concordance, not a wiki." {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::::So you're saying that if spoons were used in a different, offbeat way (such as sticking them up Strong Sad's nose) we could have a page, but spoons are too ordinary and generic to have their own page? That's what I'm saying. --{{User:T3H_CH3K7_888/sig}} 19:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Dynamic imagery ==

I would suggest we have a different spoon image of the few available come up on random page grabs. Dot Com knows the way to do it, as do others. There are many fun spoon memories to include here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:You're saying we should have a random image of a spoon appear on this article? Similar to how we have random quotes appear on certain articles ( e.g. {{t|homsarquote}} )? Am I understanding that right? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::Not so much saying we should as suggesting we could. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Why exactly do we need images of all the occurrences of spoons? It makes no sense. --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 23:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::That's not the Qermaq's suggestion. He said we could possibly have a rotating (random) image of an occurrence of spoons in the Homestar Runner universe, meaning that the image of 1-Up currently on this article could get swapped out for another image at random, like the {{t|homsarquote}}. I don't think it's necessary, though. {{t|homsarquote}} was created because of several edit wars over what the caption for [[Homsar]]'s image on his page should be. There is no such edit war here, nor will there be soon. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, but it's cool. I want to see it. But that's probably because I hate the [[1-Up]] pudding picture. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 20:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::: {robot voice} Don't you think this is a '''great idea'''? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 20:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Is this page useful? ==

Does this page accurately describe a guideline that we follow on this wiki? If so, what is that guideline? It needs to be stated more clearly on the project page, because it is so often invoked in discussions, but it seems to be misinterpreted a lot. If it ''doesn't'' describe a guideline we follow, then it needs to be deleted or clearly labeled as opinion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:I've never really liked this page. It's definitely not a guideline; it's at best a distillation of some ideas in our inclusion guidelines. At the time this article was written, the wiki was really slow due to a baby break, so lots of people were really trying to spin running gag articles out of mundane objects. I think that's mainly what this was meant to address, and it's a decent reflection of our practices in that area: we don't make running gag articles about commonplace objects being used in everyday ways. That much is good. The problem is that not all articles based on objects are running gags; some of them are just lists of recurring items. It is clearly within our practices to include articles about mundane objects if they recur a lot, and particularly if they're used in any unusual manner. This much is never made at all clear in this page.
:Having said that, I honestly wouldn't mind seeing this page go away. It's redundant, since we already have the inclusion guidelines. I also think "Spoons" are a poor example to use: there are actually at least two cases of unusual spoon usages (taping one to an eggplant; using one as a baton whilst commanding an army). Probably not quite enough to sustain an article, but pretty close. If we want to keep this page, I'd advise an overhaul changing its title, being clearer what kinds of articles it's about, and probably tagging it as an essay rather than a guideline. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::the randomness of adding the name of the utensil to the sentence "Let's eat pudding with a spoon!" is kind of unusual as well... that said, i agree with the Heim man. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Too many people refer to this page as a guideline. Let's get rid of it so we can be rid of obnoxious know-it-nones (such as myself) saying everything is a spoon. It is more relevent on Wikipedia, the hub wiki, but not here. Thaqt said, I agree that Spoons themselves may deserve an article in the future if the gag continues, and this page is the only thing standing in the way of that.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 16:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I'm starting to think I agree. The shame! Anyway, perhaps we could simply make it clearer that this essay refers only to the categorization of object running gags, and then just let the other mundane object lists exist. Someone took the time to create them, after all. I suppose the true measurement here is whether the wiki's server...usage...price...donation total...stuff (sorry, I can code a bit but I've got no clue how server companies charge their customers) could be trimmed significantly by removal of mundane object lists. Ooh, or perhaps we could add a new category for mundane object lists, immune to any mentions of spoons? Additionally, I'm thinking that due to Heimstern's examples, yeah, spoons aren't the right example item. Taping stuff to eggplants is pretty weird. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 16:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::On the one hand, I think that this page is a useful guideline. Even recently, there has been many people trying to create articles on just about any object that happens to reappear in the HRU. On that score, it's a useful reminder that what we are trying to document are unusual or unique ways that those objects, phrases, or ideas are being used within the Universe. On the other hand, I do feel like this is not the correct example and it tends to get overused (much like [[TTATOT]] used to ) when stating objection to a page. (cf. [[Talk:Boats]]) (and we can't use [[The]] anymore as a substitute, since that makes a nice redirect for [[Integral Article]]...) Like Heimstern has suggested, this article needs to be rewritten with another example or make the inclusion guidelines section clearer. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree that since the message behind this article has been misused, it be reworded to thoroughly clarify what its scope is and what types of article we aim to avoid creating. I don't think this article should be deleted simply because it has been misinterpreted by some. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:To me, when certain users describe an article as "a spoon", they're saying "This article is boring and I don't like it and we're not allowed an article on spoons so why should we have an article on this other object?" They never explain ''why'' it's a spoon and just say "it's a spoon" as if that in itself is a valid argument because it sounds catchy and professional-sounding. I absolutely cannot stand it when this happens. The frequent abuse of this article has degraded it to such an extent that it no longer has any real meaning. I agree that we need to somehow explain, with vastly more clarity than currently is on this article, that it's not neccessary to create an article for every single object that's ever appeared on the website, just the items which are unique to H*R or have some importance to the plot. On the other hand, we could just scrap the article and use [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines]] more often. Also, we actually DO have an article on a certain spoon: the [[Orange Bowl and Spoon|Orange Spoon]] that Colonel Homestar Runner waves about. Yes, it's an exception because it has some importance, but it's existence pretty much undermines the concept of a "No Spoons" approach to the scope of this wiki. Plus, I think there should be an article on Spoons. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:14, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::I find this ironic. Most pages are deleted because they are not famous enough, but this one is being deleted because it became TOO famous. I never thought I would see the day... I am happy about this. I never liked this page. There SHOULD be a spoon article, I agree. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 20:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::: This seems like we agreed to kill it. But should we kill it like in real life, or H*R kill it, so it stays but is still dead? Like, since this was usefull at the time, but has outlived its usefulness, I say we add a retired banner, like on STUFF. Please tell me to stop if you disagree, I just want to kill it. Besides, I'm pretty sure no one wants this page as is. Perhaps we make a new page, and archive this one. One with a better name, a better guideline and a better way of explaining. THis should be retired and kept as is, with a new one. Who's with me? Please answer quickly, as i can't wait to retire this if people agree. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 17:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Consensus here is still not entirely clear in many areas. One thing that is clear is that there is clear consensus against the status quo. What's not so clear is what status quo post we want. Some people are ready to ditch this page completely (whether deleting it or marking it historical); others simply want to see it changed. I can see at least three questions we need to answer: 1. Should this page exist as an active, non-historical page? (If the answer to this question is "no", the other two become irrelevant.) 2. Should it continue to be marked as a guideline, or is it something else (such as an essay)? 3. What object should be used as an example? It appears to me that there is a fair consensus that "spoons" are actually used in unusual enough ways that they are unsuitable as an example.

Could we all clearly state our opinions on these matters? As usual, these aren't just votes, but arguments with reasons to back them up. Then we can get an idea where the current consensus lies.

To start out with my own answers: to question 1: I'm still unconvinced we need this page. All of this is covered where it should be: the inclusion guidelines. We need those; we don't need this page. 2. If we do keep this page, it should not be tagged as a guideline. It's not a guideline itself, it's an essay to help interpret the inclusion guidelines. 3. I have no good ideas for another object to use instead of spoons (which is a big part of why I'd be fine with seeing this page go). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:47, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

:The more I think about it, the more it seems like that this page, by itself, is not as useful as it should be. I'm leaning towards HL's opinion that this page should not stand alone; the point of this page is to clarify a point in the Inclusion Guidelines, but it doesn't make sense if it is separate from that page. To that end, what should be done is having the good ideas of this page (namely that pages should be created that document unique or unusual aspects of the Homestar Runner Universe) be '''merged''' back into the Inclusion Guidelines. If the guidelines are unclear, they should be rewritten, with explanatory essay if necessary included.

:As for example, personally, I'm leaning towards [[Nails]], but [[Talk: Nails|that's just me]]. Given the nature of H*R, just about [[boats|anything]] [[mustard|could]] [[ketchup|have]] [[mayonnaise|a page]]. To try to limit ourselves to one example would probably be futile. But I can certainly see a way of writing around that. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 11:27, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::I think what the creator of this article wanted to say was that we should create articles which should are either interesting or unique, rather than mundane or common. The problem is that an article which may be interesting to one person may be boring to another. The term "interesting" itself is subjective. Who's to say an article on Spoons wouldn't be interesting? No one's even attempted to create such an article yet! Anywho, here's my answers to Heimstern Läufer's questions:
::1. No. This article is not a guideline itself, but rather one person's interpretation of the Inclusion Guidelines which is currently being questioned on this talk page and has been contradicted by the continued existence of articles such as those mentioned in the previous post.
::2. No. As this article is just an interpretation of the Inclusion Guidelines, it should not be tagged as a guideline. If it should be kept as an essay, it should be longer than two paragraphs, otherwise it's not much of an essay.
::3. If we decided to keep this article, we should not use an item for this article's title as that won't solve the problem. We'd just have people describing articles as an <item>. I'd suggest the term "Scope" instead, as this article attempts to explain the scope of our project and that articles should be useful, not pointless. But since I think this article should be deleted or retired, this question is kind of irrelevant to me. The ideas of this page should belong on the Inclusion Guidelines. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

:::In my opinion, it seems to me that most people have misunderstood the purpose and meaning behind this article. As a result the guideline has been greatly misused and so most people are dissatisfied with its existence. I don't believe the article is necessarily dealing with 'interesting vs. dull artifacts' or even that the article itself is interesting. Rather, what it's trying to say is this: if an item is used in a normal, everyday matter, then there's really no point in adding it to an article. Conversely, it stands to reason that if the article is used in an unusual way, it merits inclusion. The best example that would illustrate that is the venerable Spoon. If a spoon is used to eat pudding, what is the novelty in that? We all use spoons to eat pudding; or cereal, or soup or cake. There are many mundane uses of a spoon that are also found in H*R. However, if I, say, use a spoon to single-handedly thwart off an invading army, then that's a notable example! It is my understanding that there are many unusual ways that Spoons are used in H*R. This article should *not* preclude a [[Spoon]] article from being made (or the [[Nails]] article from being kept). It should, however, prevent us from listing every single instance of a spoon (or nails) appearing in the H*R body work (unless perhaps if it's central to the plot somehow). That's why there's a picture of 1-up eating pudding on the page. Again, this is also a ''guideline'' not a set-in-stone wiki law. It means that examples that fall in a gray area should be examined individually, based on their own merit (while keeping this article in mind).
:::So, should we merge this article with the [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|Inclusion guidelines]]? I don't know. They should at least point to each other. But at the very least, the text in this guideline should be updated it make it clear the distinction between mundane and extraordinary uses of everyday articles (adding examples would help a lot in getting this done). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with Stux's interpretation of a notable object used in the Homestar Runner universe (body of work? What did we decide on?). A page listing every use of a phone in the series is unnecessary, while a page listing the manifestations of the running gag of using a disconnected phone is, in my opinion.
::::As someone who uses the HRWiki considerably more than I contribute, I think I have somewhat of an outside opinion. The HRWiki has become an example of the "unnecessary" details that are cataloged by fanatical wikis. Compare the quality and quantity of the articles here to those on Lostpedia or the WoWWiki (I admit these are both Wikia wikis and not perfectly interchangeable with this one). The consistency and scope of this wiki is well beyond any other similar wiki of which I'm aware. Part of me thinks that this sort of detail is what the HRWiki is known for providing and that I might some day want to know all the mentions of phones in the whole series. The question though is whether anyone else would ''and'' if writing these pages is an efficient allocation of the contributors' time.
::::My overall opinion is no. Half of the glorified lists that we call articles could be deleted and nothing of value would be lost. The wiki, in a way, is still providing this information. Anyone can search for the word "phone" and find, within the transcripts and fun facts, every mentioning of phones in the whole series, fairly quickly and efficiently. This wiki is suffering from too many little hands, itching to create, that have increasingly less to work with. Perhaps we could all benefit from taking a step back and seeing articles as a resource for an outside audience and not as an extension of yourself and the manifestation of your hard work.
::::I understand that this discussion is about the inclusion of ''this'' page, specifically, but I think that this philosophy needs a place on the wiki and it could start here. —{{User:MibZelinda/sig}} 05:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::I am equally astounded and honored as this discussion. I have added text to the "essay" and subject it to the wiki's consideration. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 12:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Speaking as someone who has been out of the game for awhile, but occasionally lurking, I did not know about this article, and don't know how people have cited it in the past. I do however, agree with what Stux said. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:11, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Speaking as someone else who has been out of the game for a while, and didn't know about this article, I'd like to put in my two cents. First, regardless of the ultimate fate of this ''concept'', I have something to say about the preservation of this ''page''. If this ever does get merged or otherwise discarded, I think it's important that both the page's text and the above discussion be preserved in some way, as a sort of museum artifact. Because in the two plus years of discussion above, I can see that this page started as the distillation of much broader thoughts and discussions, and has since become an icon, a shorthand, a benchmark, a mantra, and a controversy. There is a two-year history of reaction not only ''to this concept'', but ''to '''this expression''' of this concept''. If we were doing an academic historical study of the wiki, we would say this page alone deserves a "reception history." The possibility that it inspired TBC's (to my knowledge) only public acknowledgment of the wiki on H*R adds to its historical significance.
:::::::Now, about the concept itself: I think I agree entirely with what MibZelinda says above. There's an important side effect to "wiki-is-not-paper"-motivated bloat, that it makes it more difficult to navigate or to find significant information in. The other day I was researching a piece by a [[Wikipedia:Manuel Quiroga|Galician composer]], but little did I know that the relevant information was not only in [[Wikipedia:Galicia (Spain)|Galicia]], but also in [[Wikipedia:Kingdom of Galicia|Kingdom of Galicia]] (which is not part of [[Wikipedia:History of Galicia|History of Galicia]], which does not include the [[Wikipedia:Timeline of Galician History|Timeline of Galician History]]). Granted, many of these linked to others. But though both "Galicia" and "History of Galicia" briefly discussed the significant movement of Galician nationalism, ''neither'' linked to the article on it, [[Wikipedia:Galician nationalism|Galician nationalism]]. Oh, wait, or is [[Wikipedia:Galicianism (Galicia)|Galicianism]] the article on it? And of course there were separate articles for Galicia's [[Wikipedia:Music of Galicia, Cantabria and Asturias|music]], [[Wikipedia:Galician cuisine|cuisine]] (not including [[Wikipedia:Galician wine|wine]]), and [[Wikipedia:Galician people|people]] (though that one doesn't include the, um, [[Wikipedia:List of Galicians|List of Galicians]]).
:::::::I emphatically agree with MibZelinda that our mandate is one of utility over archival. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

videography

AbdiViklas — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:58:53 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Real-World References */Uh, yeah..... mebbe I'm wrong, but I don't think this belongs here.

{{sbenav|205}}

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Lil' Strong Sad]], [[Grandmaw Auntpaw]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Basement of The Brothers Strong]], [[Homestar Runner's House]]

{{Comp|Compy Compé}}

'''Date:''' Monday, October 5, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:30

'''Page Title:''' Compy Compé

==Transcript==
''{Strong Bad is at the Compé. The wallpaper is a picture of marshmallows.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Checkin' e-mails with boxing gloves. The sweet computer science. ''{double-clicks on the sbemail.exe icon}''

{{compeemail}}
To Whom It May Concern; (aka Strong Bad) 
I'm getting married in August. I'm looking to hire a "videographer" to videotape our wedding. Could you use all your skills and powers and take on such a task? I want it to look real nice. 
Robert McSwain 
Video Media Technologist 
ITS Department
{{compeemailend}}

''{Strong Bad reads "aka" as written and "ITS Department" as "It's Da Partment!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well McSwobert, that works out perfectly, because "videographer" is just one of my many professions that have quotes around them.

''{clears screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm also a "heart surgeon," a "licensed technician," a "poultry farmer," and a "fireman." And you say you're getting married in August? So like, 2 months ago? Also, not a problem. My videograph will have so many fancy wipes, fades, and transitions, your wife will never even know you guys aren't in it! Take a look at my demo reel.

''{cut through static to a miniature screen of Strong Bad in The Field. It disjointedly gets larger until it fills the entire screen}

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello there. I'm famed quotation marked videographer Strong Bad. Do you like quick zooms and solarizing effects? What about diamondy transitions, pixelated wipes, or slow fade-outs? All these effects and more will make your cherished event that happened last month be cherished forever.

''(diamond cut to Locker Room}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jimmy's lacrosse debacle never looked so good.

''(Static cut to Strong Bad's shoes at The Field)''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Unintelligent mumbles}'' Little Jimmy is playing lacrosse! ''{More mumbles}'' Oh, he scores the winning lacrosse point! ''{ A whistle is heard}''

''{Wipe to three lacrosse sticks being held in the air}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and his dad was totally there and not at Applebee's! ''{The camera lowers to reveal The Cheat holding the sticks.}'' Good shot, John-Jimmy!

''{static cut to The Garage. Strong Bad is holding a "Seedy Rom".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Add panache, pizzaz, and pep with a CD Rom work of animated clip art and copyright-free classical music.

''{Cut to a title screen reading "Video Evidence of Homestar & Marzipan's 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 10th Anniversary Celebration!!!"}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Are you sure this will work, aka Strong Bad?

''{Cut to Homestar in his living room}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whispered}'' Definitely! Just act like you're celebrating!

'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{dancing}'' Oh, twice! I'm a lavish gift-giver!

''{Cut to Strong Bad in The Garage}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Weddings? Bar-mitzfvfahs? Bar-Fvfights? First steps? Droopy ''{snickers}'' drawers? You name it! I'll videographafize it!

''{Cut to Strong Bad in a cowboy outfit at a table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a faux-cowboy accent}'' Take family meat loaf night back to the ooold west! ''{normally}'' Did somebody say... ''sepia tones?''

'''VOICES:''' Uh, no. I don't... think so. I definitely didn't.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in the kitchen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And with our new sweet sweet suite of video toasters, your precious memories will have titles that defy the very laws of reason.

''{Cut to a picture of a decoration. "Your Wedding Video" appears onscreen, followe by "The Union of ROBERT McSWAIN: VIDEO MEDIA TECHNOLOGIST and THE LADY HE MARRIED IN AUGUST".}

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hopefully that will be enough to keep your wife from wondering why her video media technolgist husband wasn't smart enough to put a video camera on a tripod across the room and press record.

''{Cut to Computer Room}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But you could probably also get away with just putting a label that says, 'WEDDIN TAPE' on a VHS cassette since none-out-of-none couples actually ever watch their wedding video. Unless of course a baby drops an f-bomb, somebody pukes in their toupee, or Grandmaw Auntpaw rolls down the stairs in her wheelchair. In which case you simply post it online and turn it into internet gold! And I can ''definitely'' arrange for some of that stuff to happen at your wedding, if you enlist my services as an "event coordinator." ''{stops typing}'' A-heh heh heh, heh heh heh-HEM.

''{The [[Compé-per]] comes up}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Clicking on "internet gold" at the end gives you part of the [[YouTube]] URL for the video [[Coach Z pukes in dude's toupee]].
*Clicking on "Grandma Auntpaw" at the end shows a short clip of Strong Bad showing off his video camera.
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' My state-of-the-art camera has a state-of-the-art microphone mounted right next to the giant videotape motor. So you're guaranteed to hear mostly that, and not what Grandmaw Auntpaw just said on her hundred-and-ninth birthday.
*:''{Title card reading "Grandmaw Auntpaw's 100-Somethingth Birthday Stand-around" appears. Cut to a scene showing a wall and the shadow of an old woman sitting in a wheelchair just out of frame. The recorder's motor plays loudly.}''
*:'''GRANDMAW AUNTPAW:''' ''{barely audible}'' I never loved any of you.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Lacrosse|Lacrosse]] is a field [[sport]] mainly popular in Canada and eastern United States, played with a rubber ball and long handle racquets.
*[[Wikipedia:Video Toaster|Video Toaster]] is a hardware and software system for editing and adding effects to videos.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad sings about [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?|typing with boxing gloves]].
*Strong Bad was last shown with pan with a [[chicken|chicken leg]] in it in [[slumber party]].
*The music played at the beginning of Strong Bad's demo reel is the theme song from the [[Sbemailiarized]] toons.
*Strong Bad's wallpaper is one of the [[Wallpaper]]s from the Download page.
*The music that plays during the meatloaf night scene is the theme song to "The Strong Bad", which was introduced in [[pizzaz]].
*The last time [[The Brothers Chaps]] created a YouTube exclusive was when they released [[Strong Bad Gameways]], the URL hash for which appeared in a similar Easter egg in [[shapeshifter]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Applebee's|Applebee's]] is a US chain of family dining restaurants (that used to be based in [[Georgia|Atlanta]]).

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|205|Forum Link Number Here}}

{{stub}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:On Break

AbdiViklas — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:03:56 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* TSquared */ Everybody now!

== smells like dead what now? ==

can anyone tell what the last 2 words in the easter egg conversation are? -- [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 06:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Danzut? That's the only thing I can think of, but I've never been to Turkey, so I don't know if it smells bad or not.
:It sounds like "dead-zuh" to me. Or possibly "deadzert". You know, like "dessert", only dead. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know why, but I heard "tion". like air condi"tion" pronounced shun.--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I heard "dim sum" which would correlate with Coach Z's "kimchi." ---Ransom (--[[Special:Contributions/68.123.102.158|68.123.102.158]] 02:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC))
:::My take was "desert" (vs. "dessert"), but that too doesn't make any sense. But surely there's something better than "zut." I mean, Occam's razor, amiright? [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Ppice ==

How do we know it's a goof? Maybe Bubs ran out of r's. Don't forget the Conces5ion Stand. [[Special:Contributions/121.209.148.49|121.209.148.49]] 07:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's clearly a cloth sign with the letters printed on. You can't "run out" in such an instance.
:On the other hand, I do agree. Perhaps move it to Remarks if TBC don't fix it within a couple days. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Maybe it was painted on. Maybe TBC deliberately did that and had Bubs "forget" the R's tail--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I thought the PP was connected to P^2. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.243|132.183.140.243]] 17:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I thought that too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I, however, think that's kind of a reach. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

==Not sure where to put this...==
Strong Bad says himself, Homestar and Coach Z are all fully grown. [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]
:Sounds like something that could be mentioned on [[Characters' Ages]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Smoking Crayon ==

In the first scene, before Coach Z walks up, the crayon Strong Bad smokes (or pretends to smoke) is emitting smoke like a real cigaret. However, as soon as Strong Bad points out it's fake, there is no more smoke to be seen. Should this be noted as a goof, a trivia or just in the script? --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 09:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Furthermore, the crayon disappears altogether as the toon progresses even further. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Quit likely that he puts it back into hammerspace. Not sure about the smoke though --[[User:ftr|ftr]]

== The Sausage Race ==

The thing where the mascots run around the field seems to be a reference to the Miller Park (Milwaukee baseball) race where various hot dogs, sausages, etc. run a lap around the field. I'd put the reference up myself, but I don't have the time to look stuff up.
:They have mascot races at just about every baseball park. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Not at [[Wikipedia:Busch Stadium|mine]]. At least, not to my knowledge. {{User:Neox/sig}} 00:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The only two Major League Baseball stadiums that have mascot races to the best of my knowledge (and I'm a pretty big baseball fan) are the Sausage Race at Miller Park (Milwaukee Brewers), and the President Race at Nationals Park (Washington Nationals), which, given it's a relatively new team and stadium, was clearly based on the much older Sausage Race. Both are already mentioned in the fun facts, as well. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Nonsense. There's the Dot Race (Texas Rangers), the bottle race (Tampa Bay Rays), the condiments race (no really; Kansas City Royals), the tools race (Atlanta Braves), and maybe more. Even more clubs have races on the video board only (and a lot of the live races originated in video form). I would have linked a third one, but those two Wikipedia pages are the only ones on the subject I found. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== the Bumbling Mascot Race Around The Field! ==

Anyone notice that strong bad doesn't close his face door thingie when they do the bumbling mascot race around the field?--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:I noticed that. Also that it changes sides whenever Strong Bad turns around so that it's always "upstage" to the viewer. And that the clown frill and tie had to be moved lower down when compared to its original appearence in [[part-time job]] so that the door thingie could fit. Don't know if any of these are quite worth mentioning on the page, though. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 13:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kid Quote. ==

After listening closely with my Skullcandy's on, I think the kid says "mommy, I can't see" [[Special:Contributions/168.179.160.72|168.179.160.72]] 14:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== "Chase" Music ==
Just so there isn't a big debate over this... the song sung while the mascots run around the field ISN'T "Yakety Sax", the theme from Benny Hill. This is a piece of music called "Bond Street" (I believe?) composed by Burt Bacharach for the 1967 version of 'Casino Royale'. As I noted in my edit, this is the same music used for Stewie's "sexy parties". -Steve
:Not even close. "Bond Street" does not sound like that; it has a slower tempo and sounds like an ersatz Bond theme (which, it is). The song in the short is clearly "Yakety Sax" (or attempt to recreate it there of). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:[[YouTube:spz8_rpE0e0|"Yakety Sax"]]
:[[YouTube:MDX5c3nXexc|Sexy party clip]] Definitely not "Bond Street" {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::The melody of the two is pretty close. But different enough to count. And "Bond Street" is not the song known for "silly" chases. It's clearly "Yakety Sax". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't really see the resemblance to Yakety Sax. I think I've heard something that went along with this toon somewhere in the Homstar Runner Universe, actually, but it's vague, and maybe it's not Homestar Runner-related at all. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I really don't see how there is an arguement over this. It is clearly meant to at least sound like Yakety Sax, seeing as how it is played when a bunch of characters are running around. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 21:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I definitely hear reference to "Yakety Sax" (i didn't know it was called that until today), especially in the second half of the first line and the first half of the second line. outside of that is a bit more vague, but since that is a random chase song, i think it was the intention. what really had me confused was why tbc were talking after the toon and after the easter egg. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::I've heard this song before, it's a -version- of Yakkety Sax that's actually noticeably different from the usual version, that tends to be used more in this setting. Compare the version heard in "Close-up animals with a wide-angle lens" from South Park. Really most of the notes are different, but it progresses so similarly.

== Pickle? ==
Should we change the wording for the explanation of kimchi? I think the term "pickle" may confuse others into thinking that kimchi is a Korean cucumber even though it's actually pickled vegetables.--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:To most people, a "pickle" means "pickled vegetables", e.g. branston pickle, picallili (spelling?) etc. I think it's clear enough as it is. -[[User:Ftr|Ftr]]
::That's not true. Pretty much everyone i know, myself included uses "pickles" to mean the cucumbered variety. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::"Pickle" meaning cucumber style is mostly North American usage (even though there are things like pickled okra etc.). Pickle meaning any pickled veg is more usual in Europe and Australia. The clarification is fine now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 13:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Child's Voice ==
Anyone maybe got any info on where the child's voice came from? It sounds surprisingly like a real child, which would imply that the source is one of the "Little Girls," but I think it's also possible that it could have been Matt sped up. If the voice *is* someone other than Matt, that would be interesting, and would merit mentioning in the article. [[Special:Contributions/66.32.126.171|66.32.126.171]] 14:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:It could possibly be Matt and missy's son
::It could possibly be any kid in the greater atlanta area. Or it could possibly be matt sped up. Or mike. Or a sound clip taken from somewhere else. There's really no way to know. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::They usually reveal these kinds of things in DVD commentaries. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 23:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::For the record: Matt's not married to Missy, Mike is; and Matt and Mike both have one daughter; neither of them has a son. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Does it bother anyone else that we keep this close track of people's lives that we're bound to never meet?
::::::The same way everyone keeps track of anyone famous. Those are what paparazzi, tabloids, and celebrity news shows like TMZ are for! It just a part of life to know exactly what everyone else is doing!....... Yeah, it does kinda bother me.--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 14:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Moving back on topic, to me it sounds like they sped up Matt's voice. The quality is kinda poor, which, in my experience, always occurs whenever you speed up a sound clip. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::if you speed up a sound clip like that, it sounds like a [[Wikipedia:Alvin and the Chipmunks|chipmunk]]. i guess that's possible; it's really too short for me to pick up on it. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 19:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Smoker ==
* Although Strong Bad denies being a smoker, he's been seen to smoke a cigar in Store Thank You Message.
Is this necessary? My dad has smoked a cigar before, but he's not a smoker!--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 22:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
: The Cheat, ANOTHER ezpensive light, please. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 23:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::My experiences on the topic are: just b/c you see someone smoking once doesn't mean they're a smoker. If you see them smoking on two different occasions, then you can infer that the person is a smoker. Since we've only actually ''seen'' strong bad smoking once, my vote is '''remove'''. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::: The store messages aren't the same kind of canon as toons, in my opinion. I also tend to agree with cupcake; I know lots of people (both real and fictional characters) who enjoy a cigar once in a blue moon but don't habitually smoke cigarettes. Still, I'm not sure it's not remarkable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I think it should stay. While what has been said is true, the fact as reads is also true. We're not inferring that SB is or isn't a smoker, we're just noting that he doesn't identify one while also noting that he has indeed been seen smoking at least once. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 02:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::: He doesn't say he was a frequent smoker, just that he does. Not nessisarily meaning often. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
== Um, GRAVY Go Nuts U.? ==

Am I the only one who thinks it sounds like Homestar, at the end of his Fresh Orientation, says "'''G! G!''' N! U!"? It wouldn't make any sense—aside, you know, from Homestar getting things randomly wrong—but I've been playing it back over and over and I swear the two letters sound identical. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
: I heard TGNU even after looking at the atricle. I guess he could be saying GGNU, but one thing is sure: he doesn't spell it right.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 15:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::Given that we have two conflicting ideas of what he says and the fact that i hear nothing out of the ordinary, it seems clear that the first sound is just a bit hard to hear. That is far from being "sure he doesn't spell it right." Seems like people reaching for a mistake that isn't there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== TSquared ==

Isn't it a little suspicious that P-Squared and TSquared sound alike? Also, I learned from an interview that TSquared got his nickname from his name (Tom Taylor).
:______-squared is a common joke often used by people who don't understand how exponents work to indicate something times two. I doubt it's a reference to any one person who used that joke. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
::I think T stands for Trouble. Right here on our wiki. That's Trouble with a capital T (and that rhymes with P and that stands for Pom Pom). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Gotta find a way to keep the young folk moral after school!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
::TTATOT {{User:Strong Vader/sig}} 01:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:On Break

AbdiViklas — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:36:22 GMT

AbdiViklas: /**/Um, GRAVY Go Nuts U.?

== smells like dead what now? ==

can anyone tell what the last 2 words in the easter egg conversation are? -- [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 06:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Danzut? That's the only thing I can think of, but I've never been to Turkey, so I don't know if it smells bad or not.
:It sounds like "dead-zuh" to me. Or possibly "deadzert". You know, like "dessert", only dead. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know why, but I heard "tion". like air condi"tion" pronounced shun.--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I heard "dim sum" which would correlate with Coach Z's "kimchi." ---Ransom (--[[Special:Contributions/68.123.102.158|68.123.102.158]] 02:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC))
:::My take was "desert" (vs. "dessert"), but that too doesn't make any sense. But surely there's something better than "zut." I mean, Occam's razor, amiright? [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Ppice ==

How do we know it's a goof? Maybe Bubs ran out of r's. Don't forget the Conces5ion Stand. [[Special:Contributions/121.209.148.49|121.209.148.49]] 07:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's clearly a cloth sign with the letters printed on. You can't "run out" in such an instance.
:On the other hand, I do agree. Perhaps move it to Remarks if TBC don't fix it within a couple days. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Maybe it was painted on. Maybe TBC deliberately did that and had Bubs "forget" the R's tail--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I thought the PP was connected to P^2. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.243|132.183.140.243]] 17:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I thought that too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I, however, think that's kind of a reach. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

==Not sure where to put this...==
Strong Bad says himself, Homestar and Coach Z are all fully grown. [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]
:Sounds like something that could be mentioned on [[Characters' Ages]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Smoking Crayon ==

In the first scene, before Coach Z walks up, the crayon Strong Bad smokes (or pretends to smoke) is emitting smoke like a real cigaret. However, as soon as Strong Bad points out it's fake, there is no more smoke to be seen. Should this be noted as a goof, a trivia or just in the script? --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 09:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Furthermore, the crayon disappears altogether as the toon progresses even further. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Quit likely that he puts it back into hammerspace. Not sure about the smoke though --[[User:ftr|ftr]]

== The Sausage Race ==

The thing where the mascots run around the field seems to be a reference to the Miller Park (Milwaukee baseball) race where various hot dogs, sausages, etc. run a lap around the field. I'd put the reference up myself, but I don't have the time to look stuff up.
:They have mascot races at just about every baseball park. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Not at [[Wikipedia:Busch Stadium|mine]]. At least, not to my knowledge. {{User:Neox/sig}} 00:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The only two Major League Baseball stadiums that have mascot races to the best of my knowledge (and I'm a pretty big baseball fan) are the Sausage Race at Miller Park (Milwaukee Brewers), and the President Race at Nationals Park (Washington Nationals), which, given it's a relatively new team and stadium, was clearly based on the much older Sausage Race. Both are already mentioned in the fun facts, as well. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Nonsense. There's the Dot Race (Texas Rangers), the bottle race (Tampa Bay Rays), the condiments race (no really; Kansas City Royals), the tools race (Atlanta Braves), and maybe more. Even more clubs have races on the video board only (and a lot of the live races originated in video form). I would have linked a third one, but those two Wikipedia pages are the only ones on the subject I found. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== the Bumbling Mascot Race Around The Field! ==

Anyone notice that strong bad doesn't close his face door thingie when they do the bumbling mascot race around the field?--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:I noticed that. Also that it changes sides whenever Strong Bad turns around so that it's always "upstage" to the viewer. And that the clown frill and tie had to be moved lower down when compared to its original appearence in [[part-time job]] so that the door thingie could fit. Don't know if any of these are quite worth mentioning on the page, though. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 13:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kid Quote. ==

After listening closely with my Skullcandy's on, I think the kid says "mommy, I can't see" [[Special:Contributions/168.179.160.72|168.179.160.72]] 14:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== "Chase" Music ==
Just so there isn't a big debate over this... the song sung while the mascots run around the field ISN'T "Yakety Sax", the theme from Benny Hill. This is a piece of music called "Bond Street" (I believe?) composed by Burt Bacharach for the 1967 version of 'Casino Royale'. As I noted in my edit, this is the same music used for Stewie's "sexy parties". -Steve
:Not even close. "Bond Street" does not sound like that; it has a slower tempo and sounds like an ersatz Bond theme (which, it is). The song in the short is clearly "Yakety Sax" (or attempt to recreate it there of). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:[[YouTube:spz8_rpE0e0|"Yakety Sax"]]
:[[YouTube:MDX5c3nXexc|Sexy party clip]] Definitely not "Bond Street" {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::The melody of the two is pretty close. But different enough to count. And "Bond Street" is not the song known for "silly" chases. It's clearly "Yakety Sax". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't really see the resemblance to Yakety Sax. I think I've heard something that went along with this toon somewhere in the Homstar Runner Universe, actually, but it's vague, and maybe it's not Homestar Runner-related at all. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I really don't see how there is an arguement over this. It is clearly meant to at least sound like Yakety Sax, seeing as how it is played when a bunch of characters are running around. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 21:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I definitely hear reference to "Yakety Sax" (i didn't know it was called that until today), especially in the second half of the first line and the first half of the second line. outside of that is a bit more vague, but since that is a random chase song, i think it was the intention. what really had me confused was why tbc were talking after the toon and after the easter egg. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::I've heard this song before, it's a -version- of Yakkety Sax that's actually noticeably different from the usual version, that tends to be used more in this setting. Compare the version heard in "Close-up animals with a wide-angle lens" from South Park. Really most of the notes are different, but it progresses so similarly.

== Pickle? ==
Should we change the wording for the explanation of kimchi? I think the term "pickle" may confuse others into thinking that kimchi is a Korean cucumber even though it's actually pickled vegetables.--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:To most people, a "pickle" means "pickled vegetables", e.g. branston pickle, picallili (spelling?) etc. I think it's clear enough as it is. -[[User:Ftr|Ftr]]
::That's not true. Pretty much everyone i know, myself included uses "pickles" to mean the cucumbered variety. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::"Pickle" meaning cucumber style is mostly North American usage (even though there are things like pickled okra etc.). Pickle meaning any pickled veg is more usual in Europe and Australia. The clarification is fine now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 13:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Is Homestar Runner available in other countries? I don't think it is...--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 02:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Uh... do you understand how the internet works? It's available worldwide (and we have a number of Canadian, Israeli, and German to name just a few members to this wiki) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 02:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Heh. I just found myself wondering whether it's available in China. I really wouldn't be surprised if it isn't. Those censors probably can't handle all the "crap"s! [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Child's Voice ==
Anyone maybe got any info on where the child's voice came from? It sounds surprisingly like a real child, which would imply that the source is one of the "Little Girls," but I think it's also possible that it could have been Matt sped up. If the voice *is* someone other than Matt, that would be interesting, and would merit mentioning in the article. [[Special:Contributions/66.32.126.171|66.32.126.171]] 14:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:It could possibly be Matt and missy's son
::It could possibly be any kid in the greater atlanta area. Or it could possibly be matt sped up. Or mike. Or a sound clip taken from somewhere else. There's really no way to know. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::They usually reveal these kinds of things in DVD commentaries. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 23:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::For the record: Matt's not married to Missy, Mike is; and Matt and Mike both have one daughter; neither of them has a son. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Does it bother anyone else that we keep this close track of people's lives that we're bound to never meet?

== Smoker ==
* Although Strong Bad denies being a smoker, he's been seen to smoke a cigar in Store Thank You Message.
Is this necessary? My dad has smoked a cigar before, but he's not a smoker!--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 22:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
: The Cheat, ANOTHER ezpensive light, please. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 23:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::My experiences on the topic are: just b/c you see someone smoking once doesn't mean they're a smoker. If you see them smoking on two different occasions, then you can infer that the person is a smoker. Since we've only actually ''seen'' strong bad smoking once, my vote is '''remove'''. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::: The store messages aren't the same kind of canon as toons, in my opinion. I also tend to agree with cupcake; I know lots of people (both real and fictional characters) who enjoy a cigar once in a blue moon but don't habitually smoke cigarettes. Still, I'm not sure it's not remarkable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I think it should stay. While what has been said is true, the fact as reads is also true. We're not inferring that SB is or isn't a smoker, we're just noting that he doesn't identify one while also noting that he has indeed been seen smoking at least once. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 02:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Um, GRAVY Go Nuts U.? ==

Am I the only one who thinks it sounds like Homestar, at the end of his Fresh Orientation, says "'''G! G!''' N! U!"? It wouldn't make any sense—aside, you know, from Homestar getting things randomly wrong—but I've been playing it back over and over and I swear the two letters sound identical. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:On Break

AbdiViklas — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:33:05 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Pickle? */ Okay, NOW I care about a free internet!

== smells like dead what now? ==

can anyone tell what the last 2 words in the easter egg conversation are? -- [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 06:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Danzut? That's the only thing I can think of, but I've never been to Turkey, so I don't know if it smells bad or not.
:It sounds like "dead-zuh" to me. Or possibly "deadzert". You know, like "dessert", only dead. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know why, but I heard "tion". like air condi"tion" pronounced shun.--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I heard "dim sum" which would correlate with Coach Z's "kimchi." ---Ransom (--[[Special:Contributions/68.123.102.158|68.123.102.158]] 02:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC))
:::My take was "desert" (vs. "dessert"), but that too doesn't make any sense. But surely there's something better than "zut." I mean, Occam's razor, amiright? [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Ppice ==

How do we know it's a goof? Maybe Bubs ran out of r's. Don't forget the Conces5ion Stand. [[Special:Contributions/121.209.148.49|121.209.148.49]] 07:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's clearly a cloth sign with the letters printed on. You can't "run out" in such an instance.
:On the other hand, I do agree. Perhaps move it to Remarks if TBC don't fix it within a couple days. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Maybe it was painted on. Maybe TBC deliberately did that and had Bubs "forget" the R's tail--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I thought the PP was connected to P^2. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.243|132.183.140.243]] 17:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I thought that too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I, however, think that's kind of a reach. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

==Not sure where to put this...==
Strong Bad says himself, Homestar and Coach Z are all fully grown. [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]
:Sounds like something that could be mentioned on [[Characters' Ages]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Smoking Crayon ==

In the first scene, before Coach Z walks up, the crayon Strong Bad smokes (or pretends to smoke) is emitting smoke like a real cigaret. However, as soon as Strong Bad points out it's fake, there is no more smoke to be seen. Should this be noted as a goof, a trivia or just in the script? --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 09:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Furthermore, the crayon disappears altogether as the toon progresses even further. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Quit likely that he puts it back into hammerspace. Not sure about the smoke though --[[User:ftr|ftr]]

== The Sausage Race ==

The thing where the mascots run around the field seems to be a reference to the Miller Park (Milwaukee baseball) race where various hot dogs, sausages, etc. run a lap around the field. I'd put the reference up myself, but I don't have the time to look stuff up.
:They have mascot races at just about every baseball park. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Not at [[Wikipedia:Busch Stadium|mine]]. At least, not to my knowledge. {{User:Neox/sig}} 00:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The only two Major League Baseball stadiums that have mascot races to the best of my knowledge (and I'm a pretty big baseball fan) are the Sausage Race at Miller Park (Milwaukee Brewers), and the President Race at Nationals Park (Washington Nationals), which, given it's a relatively new team and stadium, was clearly based on the much older Sausage Race. Both are already mentioned in the fun facts, as well. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Nonsense. There's the Dot Race (Texas Rangers), the bottle race (Tampa Bay Rays), the condiments race (no really; Kansas City Royals), the tools race (Atlanta Braves), and maybe more. Even more clubs have races on the video board only (and a lot of the live races originated in video form). I would have linked a third one, but those two Wikipedia pages are the only ones on the subject I found. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== the Bumbling Mascot Race Around The Field! ==

Anyone notice that strong bad doesn't close his face door thingie when they do the bumbling mascot race around the field?--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:I noticed that. Also that it changes sides whenever Strong Bad turns around so that it's always "upstage" to the viewer. And that the clown frill and tie had to be moved lower down when compared to its original appearence in [[part-time job]] so that the door thingie could fit. Don't know if any of these are quite worth mentioning on the page, though. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 13:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kid Quote. ==

After listening closely with my Skullcandy's on, I think the kid says "mommy, I can't see" [[Special:Contributions/168.179.160.72|168.179.160.72]] 14:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== "Chase" Music ==
Just so there isn't a big debate over this... the song sung while the mascots run around the field ISN'T "Yakety Sax", the theme from Benny Hill. This is a piece of music called "Bond Street" (I believe?) composed by Burt Bacharach for the 1967 version of 'Casino Royale'. As I noted in my edit, this is the same music used for Stewie's "sexy parties". -Steve
:Not even close. "Bond Street" does not sound like that; it has a slower tempo and sounds like an ersatz Bond theme (which, it is). The song in the short is clearly "Yakety Sax" (or attempt to recreate it there of). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:[[YouTube:spz8_rpE0e0|"Yakety Sax"]]
:[[YouTube:MDX5c3nXexc|Sexy party clip]] Definitely not "Bond Street" {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::The melody of the two is pretty close. But different enough to count. And "Bond Street" is not the song known for "silly" chases. It's clearly "Yakety Sax". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't really see the resemblance to Yakety Sax. I think I've heard something that went along with this toon somewhere in the Homstar Runner Universe, actually, but it's vague, and maybe it's not Homestar Runner-related at all. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I really don't see how there is an arguement over this. It is clearly meant to at least sound like Yakety Sax, seeing as how it is played when a bunch of characters are running around. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 21:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I definitely hear reference to "Yakety Sax" (i didn't know it was called that until today), especially in the second half of the first line and the first half of the second line. outside of that is a bit more vague, but since that is a random chase song, i think it was the intention. what really had me confused was why tbc were talking after the toon and after the easter egg. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::I've heard this song before, it's a -version- of Yakkety Sax that's actually noticeably different from the usual version, that tends to be used more in this setting. Compare the version heard in "Close-up animals with a wide-angle lens" from South Park. Really most of the notes are different, but it progresses so similarly.

== Pickle? ==
Should we change the wording for the explanation of kimchi? I think the term "pickle" may confuse others into thinking that kimchi is a Korean cucumber even though it's actually pickled vegetables.--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:To most people, a "pickle" means "pickled vegetables", e.g. branston pickle, picallili (spelling?) etc. I think it's clear enough as it is. -[[User:Ftr|Ftr]]
::That's not true. Pretty much everyone i know, myself included uses "pickles" to mean the cucumbered variety. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::"Pickle" meaning cucumber style is mostly North American usage (even though there are things like pickled okra etc.). Pickle meaning any pickled veg is more usual in Europe and Australia. The clarification is fine now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 13:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Is Homestar Runner available in other countries? I don't think it is...--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 02:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Uh... do you understand how the internet works? It's available worldwide (and we have a number of Canadian, Israeli, and German to name just a few members to this wiki) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 02:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Heh. I just found myself wondering whether it's available in China. I really wouldn't be surprised if it isn't. Those censors probably can't handle all the "crap"s! [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Child's Voice ==
Anyone maybe got any info on where the child's voice came from? It sounds surprisingly like a real child, which would imply that the source is one of the "Little Girls," but I think it's also possible that it could have been Matt sped up. If the voice *is* someone other than Matt, that would be interesting, and would merit mentioning in the article. [[Special:Contributions/66.32.126.171|66.32.126.171]] 14:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:It could possibly be Matt and missy's son
::It could possibly be any kid in the greater atlanta area. Or it could possibly be matt sped up. Or mike. Or a sound clip taken from somewhere else. There's really no way to know. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::They usually reveal these kinds of things in DVD commentaries. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 23:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::For the record: Matt's not married to Missy, Mike is; and Matt and Mike both have one daughter; neither of them has a son. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Does it bother anyone else that we keep this close track of people's lives that we're bound to never meet?

== Smoker ==
* Although Strong Bad denies being a smoker, he's been seen to smoke a cigar in Store Thank You Message.
Is this necessary? My dad has smoked a cigar before, but he's not a smoker!--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 22:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
: The Cheat, ANOTHER ezpensive light, please. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 23:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::My experiences on the topic are: just b/c you see someone smoking once doesn't mean they're a smoker. If you see them smoking on two different occasions, then you can infer that the person is a smoker. Since we've only actually ''seen'' strong bad smoking once, my vote is '''remove'''. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::: The store messages aren't the same kind of canon as toons, in my opinion. I also tend to agree with cupcake; I know lots of people (both real and fictional characters) who enjoy a cigar once in a blue moon but don't habitually smoke cigarettes. Still, I'm not sure it's not remarkable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I think it should stay. While what has been said is true, the fact as reads is also true. We're not inferring that SB is or isn't a smoker, we're just noting that he doesn't identify one while also noting that he has indeed been seen smoking at least once. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 02:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

On Break

AbdiViklas — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:20:25 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Transcript */ If we're going to title-cap it, let's be consistent

{{toonnav|Shorts|onbreak|Compy Catalog|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Mascots.png|thumb|"What is up, my fellow sweat factories?"]]

Three costumed mascots take a break and share their experiences.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, CGNU Freshmen, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, Child, {{film|The Announcer}}, {{film|Matt Chapman}} (audio), {{film|Mike Chapman}} (audio)

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Crazy Go Nuts University]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Strong Bad's Mount Ridesplace! USA]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, August 24, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:24

'''Page Title:''' Thinking Mascots Union Local 282

==Transcript==
''{Short opens with pan down to the field. Cut to a close-up of the Tragic Clown Dog's face. Zoom out to a medium shot of Strong Bad's face visible in open flap of the costume, taking a drag off a white object and exhaling audibly. Coach Z, wearing the Drive-Thru Whale costume, enters screen right.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, hey there, fellow mascot! I didn't know you was the smokin' type!

''{cut to a close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whisperingly}'' Shh! I'm not! ''{normally}'' But Bubs only gives me one of each kind of break. I've already used pee, coffee, and maternity leave today. ''{beat}'' And this is a white crayon.

''{Cut to a medium shot. Homestar Runner enters screen left, wearing the Jolly Dumple costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What is up, my fellow sweat factories?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, I didn't know you were working today.

''{Close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, it's freshman orientation. I'm in charge of orienting them freshly!

''{Cut to Homestar in the field with the CGNU tower visible in the back, and silhouettes of freshmen in the front. The words of Homestar's song are show at the bottom of the screen, with a ball bouncing as sings each word.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' You're gonna have to 
share a bafroom 
with some kid from Alabama 
that kinda sucks. 
The financial aid office 
is closed on Tuesdays 
and steer clear of the 
beef stroganoff at the 
dining hall!

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' C! G! N! ...U! ''{whispering}'' And then, and then you guys all say "Me?"

''{Cut back to medium shot}''

'''FRESHMEN:''' ''{mumbling}'' No way, no way.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, that's good, that's good. ''{dancing, quietly}'' We got spirit!

''{Cut back to Homestar and Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least you get college kids! I got little snot-butted kids messing with my costume all day!

''{Pan over to Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' I used to have that prablem, too, but now I just swallow 'em up and spit 'em out in the ball bath.

''{Close-up of Coach Z}''

'''CHILD:''' Mommy! Mommy! I can't see!

'''COACH Z:''' Oop! Looks like I forgot one. They'll be fine for at least a week.

''{Cut back to medium shot of all three}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, where's Pom Pom, anyway?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, P-squared's not in the union. He doesn't even get a break.

''{Cut a low shot of Pom Pom strapped to the roof of Bubs' Concession Stand, with a sign that reads "RIGHT CAR! RIGHT PPICE!" }''

'''BUBS:''' What is wrong with you? Attract more customers! ''{Cut to an inflatable gorilla with glasses behind the [[Gremlin]] with a sign that reads "YOUR TEXT HERE!"}'' That gorilla's pulling his own.

''{Cut back to a close-up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sniffing}'' Man, what is that smell?

''{Cut to a shot of all three}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, Homestar, we're three grown men working in mascot costumes in the dead of summer! What ''isn't'' that smell? ''{close up of Strong Bad}'' I can name about forty different odors emanating from this thing right now. There's death, rot, decay—

''{Cut to close up of Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Damp, moist, kimchi!

''{Cut to a close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{an alarm goes off}'' Ah! It's time. ''{shot of all three}'' Let's do this.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{As Homestar and Coach Z walk off}'' Ugh, not again....

''{Cut to a close-up of a speaker on a wooden pole}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' That's right, ladies and gentlemen! ''{Cut to a shot of The Announcer in the booth}'' For your between-inning unjoyment, it's the Bumbling Mascot Race Around the Field!

''{Matt and Mike sing "Yakety Sax" while Coach Z, Homestar, and Strong Bad randomly move around a baseball diamond.}''

''{Cut to the inflatable gorilla with a sign that reads "The Ending Here!"}''

'''MATT:''' Does it end different?

'''MIKE:''' I dunno. Let's do it again.

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the Gorilla's mouth at the end to see an animation of a video game with the mascots.
*:''{A black screen with "GAME START!" appears. The mascots run around on platforms and ladders, referencing the old video game 'Burger Time', while Mike and Matt hum the theme music. Eventually, Mike stops humming. "GAME OVER" flashes on screen.}''
*:'''MATT:''' Go longer.
*:''{Mike starts and stops again}''
*:'''MATT:''' No, I mean you stopped longer.

*Click on the word "Here!" at the end to see Homestar and Coach Z (as Poppy and Stoppy, respectively, from [[theme park]]) have a conversation.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Man, these mascot costumes in Strong Bad's imagination are ''way'' better than the real-life ones!
*:'''COACH Z:''' Boy, I'll say! Mine's got a minibar and air conditionin'!
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' My ol' Dumple costume had air conditioning. It conditioned the air to think it smelled like... dead zut.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Kimchi|Kimchi]] is a pickled Korean dish made with beef stock, cabbage, and hot peppers, and is known for its distinctive pungent smell.
*Mascots or other costumed figures are featured at [[Wikipedia:Sausage Race|several]] [[Wikipedia:Presidents Race|ballparks]] racing around the field between innings during baseball games.

===Remarks===
*The collar and tie on Strong Bad's costume have been moved down since their last appearance, to make room for the door.
*Although Strong Bad denies being a [[Smoking|smoker]], he's been seen to smoke a cigar in [[Store Thank You Message]].
**In consideration that the costumes are likely made from [[Polymascotfoamalate]], smoking in one would be potentially dangerous (more so than usual), as seen in [[4 branches]].
*Strong Bad indicates that the three of them are grown men; a rare clue as to [[Ages of Characters|their relative ages]].
*Just as it was in [[Blubb-O's Commercial]], the Gremlin's passenger-side window is completely opaque and gray.
*When Strong Bad runs around at the end of the toon and in the Easter egg, the door on his costume switches sides whenever he turns around. However, the animation in these sequences seems to be intentionally poor.

===Inside References===
*The various costumes:
**Strong Bad appears as the [[Tragic Clown Dog]], seen in [[part-time job]]. (At the end of that email, however, he quit working for Bubs.)
**Coach Z appears as the [[Drive-Thru Whale]], from [[Blubb-O's Commercial]].
**Homestar once more wears his [[Jolly Dumple]] costume, first seen in [[mascot]]. (The sing-along style of Homestar's song, as well as the ending, are also references to this email.)
**In an Easter egg, Coach Z and Homestar appear as [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Mascots|Poppy]] the [[Tire]] and [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Mascots|Stoppy]] the [[Stop Sign]], who appeared in [[theme park]].
*The pink border in the [[Mount Ridesplace, USA]] Easter egg is from [[dreamail]].
*Strong Bad [[Smoking|smokes]] a white [[crayon]].
*The background music for Homestar's orientation song is the version of the CGNU Fight Song played by a high school band that was featured as the [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-02-09|Quote of the Week]] on February 9, 2006.
*Strong Bad mentions "[[Peeing|pee]], [[coffee]], and [[Pregnancy|maternity leave]]" as the types of breaks he has taken that day.
*Homestar mentions [[sucks]] during his song.
*Coach Z mentions his smells as being [[moist]].

===Real-World References===
*The instrumental "[[Wikipedia:Yakety Sax|Yakety Sax]]" is sung while the mascots race around the Athletic Field. This song is perhaps best known for its use on ''[[Wikipedia:The Benny Hill Show|The Benny Hill Show]]''.
*The Easter egg activated by clicking the gorilla's mouth is a parody of [[Wikipedia:BurgerTime|BurgerTime]].
*The [[page title]] is a reference to the band [[Wikipedia:Thinking Fellers Union Local 282|Thinking Fellers Union Local 282]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|onbreak|15746}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

Talk:On Break

AbdiViklas — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:19:31 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* smells like dead what now? */ yeahhhh.....

== smells like dead what now? ==

can anyone tell what the last 2 words in the easter egg conversation are? -- [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 06:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Danzut? That's the only thing I can think of, but I've never been to Turkey, so I don't know if it smells bad or not.
:It sounds like "dead-zuh" to me. Or possibly "deadzert". You know, like "dessert", only dead. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:38, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know why, but I heard "tion". like air condi"tion" pronounced shun.--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::I heard "dim sum" which would correlate with Coach Z's "kimchi." ---Ransom (--[[Special:Contributions/68.123.102.158|68.123.102.158]] 02:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC))
:::My take was "desert" (vs. "dessert"), but that too doesn't make any sense. But surely there's something better than "zut." I mean, Occam's razor, amiright? [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Ppice ==

How do we know it's a goof? Maybe Bubs ran out of r's. Don't forget the Conces5ion Stand. [[Special:Contributions/121.209.148.49|121.209.148.49]] 07:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's clearly a cloth sign with the letters printed on. You can't "run out" in such an instance.
:On the other hand, I do agree. Perhaps move it to Remarks if TBC don't fix it within a couple days. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Maybe it was painted on. Maybe TBC deliberately did that and had Bubs "forget" the R's tail--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I thought the PP was connected to P^2. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.243|132.183.140.243]] 17:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I thought that too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I, however, think that's kind of a reach. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

==Not sure where to put this...==
Strong Bad says himself, Homestar and Coach Z are all fully grown. [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]
:Sounds like something that could be mentioned on [[Characters' Ages]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Smoking Crayon ==

In the first scene, before Coach Z walks up, the crayon Strong Bad smokes (or pretends to smoke) is emitting smoke like a real cigaret. However, as soon as Strong Bad points out it's fake, there is no more smoke to be seen. Should this be noted as a goof, a trivia or just in the script? --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 09:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Furthermore, the crayon disappears altogether as the toon progresses even further. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Quit likely that he puts it back into hammerspace. Not sure about the smoke though --[[User:ftr|ftr]]

== The Sausage Race ==

The thing where the mascots run around the field seems to be a reference to the Miller Park (Milwaukee baseball) race where various hot dogs, sausages, etc. run a lap around the field. I'd put the reference up myself, but I don't have the time to look stuff up.
:They have mascot races at just about every baseball park. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::Not at [[Wikipedia:Busch Stadium|mine]]. At least, not to my knowledge. {{User:Neox/sig}} 00:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The only two Major League Baseball stadiums that have mascot races to the best of my knowledge (and I'm a pretty big baseball fan) are the Sausage Race at Miller Park (Milwaukee Brewers), and the President Race at Nationals Park (Washington Nationals), which, given it's a relatively new team and stadium, was clearly based on the much older Sausage Race. Both are already mentioned in the fun facts, as well. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Nonsense. There's the Dot Race (Texas Rangers), the bottle race (Tampa Bay Rays), the condiments race (no really; Kansas City Royals), the tools race (Atlanta Braves), and maybe more. Even more clubs have races on the video board only (and a lot of the live races originated in video form). I would have linked a third one, but those two Wikipedia pages are the only ones on the subject I found. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== the Bumbling Mascot Race Around The Field! ==

Anyone notice that strong bad doesn't close his face door thingie when they do the bumbling mascot race around the field?--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 13:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:I noticed that. Also that it changes sides whenever Strong Bad turns around so that it's always "upstage" to the viewer. And that the clown frill and tie had to be moved lower down when compared to its original appearence in [[part-time job]] so that the door thingie could fit. Don't know if any of these are quite worth mentioning on the page, though. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 13:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kid Quote. ==

After listening closely with my Skullcandy's on, I think the kid says "mommy, I can't see" [[Special:Contributions/168.179.160.72|168.179.160.72]] 14:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== "Chase" Music ==
Just so there isn't a big debate over this... the song sung while the mascots run around the field ISN'T "Yakety Sax", the theme from Benny Hill. This is a piece of music called "Bond Street" (I believe?) composed by Burt Bacharach for the 1967 version of 'Casino Royale'. As I noted in my edit, this is the same music used for Stewie's "sexy parties". -Steve
:Not even close. "Bond Street" does not sound like that; it has a slower tempo and sounds like an ersatz Bond theme (which, it is). The song in the short is clearly "Yakety Sax" (or attempt to recreate it there of). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:[[YouTube:spz8_rpE0e0|"Yakety Sax"]]
:[[YouTube:MDX5c3nXexc|Sexy party clip]] Definitely not "Bond Street" {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::The melody of the two is pretty close. But different enough to count. And "Bond Street" is not the song known for "silly" chases. It's clearly "Yakety Sax". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't really see the resemblance to Yakety Sax. I think I've heard something that went along with this toon somewhere in the Homstar Runner Universe, actually, but it's vague, and maybe it's not Homestar Runner-related at all. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I really don't see how there is an arguement over this. It is clearly meant to at least sound like Yakety Sax, seeing as how it is played when a bunch of characters are running around. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 21:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I definitely hear reference to "Yakety Sax" (i didn't know it was called that until today), especially in the second half of the first line and the first half of the second line. outside of that is a bit more vague, but since that is a random chase song, i think it was the intention. what really had me confused was why tbc were talking after the toon and after the easter egg. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::I've heard this song before, it's a -version- of Yakkety Sax that's actually noticeably different from the usual version, that tends to be used more in this setting. Compare the version heard in "Close-up animals with a wide-angle lens" from South Park. Really most of the notes are different, but it progresses so similarly.

== Pickle? ==
Should we change the wording for the explanation of kimchi? I think the term "pickle" may confuse others into thinking that kimchi is a Korean cucumber even though it's actually pickled vegetables.--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 16:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:To most people, a "pickle" means "pickled vegetables", e.g. branston pickle, picallili (spelling?) etc. I think it's clear enough as it is. -[[User:Ftr|Ftr]]
::That's not true. Pretty much everyone i know, myself included uses "pickles" to mean the cucumbered variety. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::"Pickle" meaning cucumber style is mostly North American usage (even though there are things like pickled okra etc.). Pickle meaning any pickled veg is more usual in Europe and Australia. The clarification is fine now. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 13:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Is Homestar Runner available in other countries? I don't think it is...--[[User:Dollaroo|Dollaroo]] 02:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Uh... do you understand how the internet works? It's available worldwide (and we have a number of Canadian, Israeli, and German to name just a few members to this wiki) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 02:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Child's Voice ==
Anyone maybe got any info on where the child's voice came from? It sounds surprisingly like a real child, which would imply that the source is one of the "Little Girls," but I think it's also possible that it could have been Matt sped up. If the voice *is* someone other than Matt, that would be interesting, and would merit mentioning in the article. [[Special:Contributions/66.32.126.171|66.32.126.171]] 14:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:It could possibly be Matt and missy's son
::It could possibly be any kid in the greater atlanta area. Or it could possibly be matt sped up. Or mike. Or a sound clip taken from somewhere else. There's really no way to know. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::They usually reveal these kinds of things in DVD commentaries. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 23:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::For the record: Matt's not married to Missy, Mike is; and Matt and Mike both have one daughter; neither of them has a son. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Does it bother anyone else that we keep this close track of people's lives that we're bound to never meet?

== Smoker ==
* Although Strong Bad denies being a smoker, he's been seen to smoke a cigar in Store Thank You Message.
Is this necessary? My dad has smoked a cigar before, but he's not a smoker!--{{User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake/sig}} 22:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
: The Cheat, ANOTHER ezpensive light, please. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 23:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::My experiences on the topic are: just b/c you see someone smoking once doesn't mean they're a smoker. If you see them smoking on two different occasions, then you can infer that the person is a smoker. Since we've only actually ''seen'' strong bad smoking once, my vote is '''remove'''. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::: The store messages aren't the same kind of canon as toons, in my opinion. I also tend to agree with cupcake; I know lots of people (both real and fictional characters) who enjoy a cigar once in a blue moon but don't habitually smoke cigarettes. Still, I'm not sure it's not remarkable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I think it should stay. While what has been said is true, the fact as reads is also true. We're not inferring that SB is or isn't a smoker, we're just noting that he doesn't identify one while also noting that he has indeed been seen smoking at least once. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 02:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

On Break

AbdiViklas — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:55 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Easter Eggs */Oh, and "based on," not "off." Hey, should we link Burger Time here? I know it is below, but this is what people see first.

{{toonnav|Shorts|onbreak|Compy Catalog|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Mascots.png|thumb|"What is up, my fellow sweat factories?"]]

Three costumed mascots take a break and share their experiences.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, CGNU Freshmen, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, Child, {{film|The Announcer}}, {{film|Matt Chapman}} (audio), {{film|Mike Chapman}} (audio)

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Crazy Go Nuts University]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Strong Bad's Mount Ridesplace! USA]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, August 24, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:24

'''Page Title:''' Thinking Mascots Union Local 282

==Transcript==
''{Short opens with pan down to the field. Cut to a close-up of the Tragic Clown Dog's face. Zoom out to a medium shot of Strong Bad's face visible in open flap of the costume, taking a drag off a white object and exhaling audibly. Coach Z, wearing the Drive-Thru Whale costume, enters screen right.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, hey there, fellow mascot! I didn't know you was the smokin' type!

''{cut to a close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whisperingly}'' Shh! I'm not! ''{normally}'' But Bubs only gives me one of each kind of break. I've already used pee, coffee, and maternity leave today. ''{beat}'' And this is a white crayon.

''{Cut to a medium shot. Homestar Runner enters screen left, wearing the Jolly Dumple costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What is up, my fellow sweat factories?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, I didn't know you were working today.

''{Close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, it's freshman orientation. I'm in charge of orienting them freshly!

''{Cut to Homestar in the field with the CGNU tower visible in the back, and silhouettes of freshmen in the front. The words of Homestar's song are show at the bottom of the screen, with a ball bouncing as sings each word.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' You're gonna have to 
share a bafroom 
with some kid from Alabama 
that kinda sucks. 
The financial aid office 
is closed on Tuesdays 
and steer clear of the 
beef stroganoff at the 
dining hall!

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' C! G! N! ...U! ''{whispering}'' And then, and then you guys all say "Me?"

''{Cut back to medium shot}''

'''FRESHMEN:''' ''{mumbling}'' No way, no way.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, that's good, that's good. ''{dancing, quietly}'' We got spirit!

''{Cut back to Homestar and Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least you get college kids! I got little snot-butted kids messing with my costume all day!

''{Pan over to Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' I used to have that prablem, too, but now I just swallow 'em up and spit 'em out in the ball bath.

''{Close-up of Coach Z}''

'''CHILD:''' Mommy! Mommy! I can't see!

'''COACH Z:''' Oop! Looks like I forgot one. They'll be fine for at least a week.

''{Cut back to medium shot of all three}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, where's Pom Pom, anyway?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, P-squared's not in the union. He doesn't even get a break.

''{Cut a low shot of Pom Pom strapped to the roof of Bubs' Concession Stand, with a sign that reads "RIGHT CAR! RIGHT PPICE!" }''

'''BUBS:''' What is wrong with you? Attract more customers! ''{Cut to an inflatable gorilla with glasses behind the [[Gremlin]] with a sign that reads "YOUR TEXT HERE!"}'' That gorilla's pulling his own.

''{Cut back to a close-up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sniffing}'' Man, what is that smell?

''{Cut to a shot of all three}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, Homestar, we're three grown men working in mascot costumes in the dead of summer! What ''isn't'' that smell? ''{close up of Strong Bad}'' I can name about forty different odors emanating from this thing right now. There's death, rot, decay—

''{Cut to close up of Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Damp, moist, kimchi!

''{Cut to a close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{an alarm goes off}'' Ah! It's time. ''{shot of all three}'' Let's do this.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{As Homestar and Coach Z walk off}'' Ugh, not again....

''{Cut to a close-up of a speaker on a wooden pole}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' That's right, ladies and gentlemen! ''{Cut to a shot of The Announcer in the booth}'' For your between-inning unjoyment, it's the Bumbling Mascot Race around the Field!

''{Matt and Mike sing "Yakety Sax" while Coach Z, Homestar, and Strong Bad randomly move around a baseball diamond.}''

''{Cut to the inflatable gorilla with a sign that reads "The Ending Here!"}''

'''MATT:''' Does it end different?

'''MIKE:''' I dunno. Let's do it again.

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the Gorilla's mouth at the end to see an animation of a video game with the mascots.
*:''{A black screen with "GAME START!" appears. The mascots run around on platforms and ladders, referencing the old video game 'Burger Time', while Mike and Matt hum the theme music. Eventually, Mike stops humming. "GAME OVER" flashes on screen.}''
*:'''MATT:''' Go longer.
*:''{Mike starts and stops again}''
*:'''MATT:''' No, I mean you stopped longer.

*Click on the word "Here!" at the end to see Homestar and Coach Z (as Poppy and Stoppy, respectively, from [[theme park]]) have a conversation.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Man, these mascot costumes in Strong Bad's imagination are ''way'' better than the real-life ones!
*:'''COACH Z:''' Boy, I'll say! Mine's got a minibar and air conditionin'!
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' My ol' Dumple costume had air conditioning. It conditioned the air to think it smelled like... dead zut.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Kimchi|Kimchi]] is a pickled Korean dish made with beef stock, cabbage, and hot peppers, and is known for its distinctive pungent smell.
*Mascots or other costumed figures are featured at [[Wikipedia:Sausage Race|several]] [[Wikipedia:Presidents Race|ballparks]] racing around the field between innings during baseball games.

===Remarks===
*The collar and tie on Strong Bad's costume have been moved down since their last appearance, to make room for the door.
*Although Strong Bad denies being a [[Smoking|smoker]], he's been seen to smoke a cigar in [[Store Thank You Message]].
**In consideration that the costumes are likely made from [[Polymascotfoamalate]], smoking in one would be potentially dangerous (more so than usual), as seen in [[4 branches]].
*Strong Bad indicates that the three of them are grown men; a rare clue as to [[Ages of Characters|their relative ages]].
*Just as it was in [[Blubb-O's Commercial]], the Gremlin's passenger-side window is completely opaque and gray.
*When Strong Bad runs around at the end of the toon and in the Easter egg, the door on his costume switches sides whenever he turns around. However, the animation in these sequences seems to be intentionally poor.

===Inside References===
*The various costumes:
**Strong Bad appears as the [[Tragic Clown Dog]], seen in [[part-time job]]. (At the end of that email, however, he quit working for Bubs.)
**Coach Z appears as the [[Drive-Thru Whale]], from [[Blubb-O's Commercial]].
**Homestar once more wears his [[Jolly Dumple]] costume, first seen in [[mascot]]. (The sing-along style of Homestar's song, as well as the ending, are also references to this email.)
**In an Easter egg, Coach Z and Homestar appear as [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Mascots|Poppy]] the [[Tire]] and [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Mascots|Stoppy]] the [[Stop Sign]], who appeared in [[theme park]].
*The pink border in the [[Mount Ridesplace, USA]] Easter egg is from [[dreamail]].
*Strong Bad [[Smoking|smokes]] a white [[crayon]].
*The background music for Homestar's orientation song is the version of the CGNU Fight Song played by a high school band that was featured as the [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-02-09|Quote of the Week]] on February 9, 2006.
*Strong Bad mentions "[[Peeing|pee]], [[coffee]], and [[Pregnancy|maternity leave]]" as the types of breaks he has taken that day.
*Homestar mentions [[sucks]] during his song.
*Coach Z mentions his smells as being [[moist]].

===Real-World References===
*The instrumental "[[Wikipedia:Yakety Sax|Yakety Sax]]" is sung while the mascots race around the Athletic Field. This song is perhaps best known for its use on ''[[Wikipedia:The Benny Hill Show|The Benny Hill Show]]''.
*The Easter egg activated by clicking the gorilla's mouth is a parody of [[Wikipedia:BurgerTime|BurgerTime]].
*The [[page title]] is a reference to the band [[Wikipedia:Thinking Fellers Union Local 282|Thinking Fellers Union Local 282]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|onbreak|15746}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

On Break

AbdiViklas — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:13:07 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Easter Eggs */Gaa!! I would just fix the grammar, but I didn't like the whole end of that sentence. And no, they don't follow the actual same patterns. Meanwhile, "dead zut"? Seriously?

{{toonnav|Shorts|onbreak|Compy Catalog|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Mascots.png|thumb|"What is up, my fellow sweat factories?"]]

Three costumed mascots take a break and share their experiences.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, CGNU Freshmen, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, Child, {{film|The Announcer}}, {{film|Matt Chapman}} (audio), {{film|Mike Chapman}} (audio)

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Crazy Go Nuts University]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Strong Bad's Mount Ridesplace! USA]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, August 24, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:24

'''Page Title:''' Thinking Mascots Union Local 282

==Transcript==
''{Short opens with pan down to the field. Cut to a close-up of the Tragic Clown Dog's face. Zoom out to a medium shot of Strong Bad's face visible in open flap of the costume, taking a drag off a white object and exhaling audibly. Coach Z, wearing the Drive-Thru Whale costume, enters screen right.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, hey there, fellow mascot! I didn't know you was the smokin' type!

''{cut to a close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whisperingly}'' Shh! I'm not! ''{normally}'' But Bubs only gives me one of each kind of break. I've already used pee, coffee, and maternity leave today. ''{beat}'' And this is a white crayon.

''{Cut to a medium shot. Homestar Runner enters screen left, wearing the Jolly Dumple costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What is up, my fellow sweat factories?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, I didn't know you were working today.

''{Close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, it's freshman orientation. I'm in charge of orienting them freshly!

''{Cut to Homestar in the field with the CGNU tower visible in the back, and silhouettes of freshmen in the front. The words of Homestar's song are show at the bottom of the screen, with a ball bouncing as sings each word.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' You're gonna have to 
share a bafroom 
with some kid from Alabama 
that kinda sucks. 
The financial aid office 
is closed on Tuesdays 
and steer clear of the 
beef stroganoff at the 
dining hall!

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' C! G! N! ...U! ''{whispering}'' And then, and then you guys all say "Me?"

''{Cut back to medium shot}''

'''FRESHMEN:''' ''{mumbling}'' No way, no way.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, that's good, that's good. ''{dancing, quietly}'' We got spirit!

''{Cut back to Homestar and Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least you get college kids! I got little snot-butted kids messing with my costume all day!

''{Pan over to Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' I used to have that prablem, too, but now I just swallow 'em up and spit 'em out in the ball bath.

''{Close-up of Coach Z}''

'''CHILD:''' Mommy! Mommy! I can't see!

'''COACH Z:''' Oop! Looks like I forgot one. They'll be fine for at least a week.

''{Cut back to medium shot of all three}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, where's Pom Pom, anyway?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, P-squared's not in the union. He doesn't even get a break.

''{Cut a low shot of Pom Pom strapped to the roof of Bubs' Concession Stand, with a sign that reads "RIGHT CAR! RIGHT PPICE!" }''

'''BUBS:''' What is wrong with you? Attract more customers! ''{Cut to an inflatable gorilla with glasses behind the [[Gremlin]] with a sign that reads "YOUR TEXT HERE!"}'' That gorilla's pulling his own.

''{Cut back to a close-up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sniffing}'' Man, what is that smell?

''{Cut to a shot of all three}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, Homestar, we're three grown men working in mascot costumes in the dead of summer! What ''isn't'' that smell? ''{close up of Strong Bad}'' I can name about forty different odors emanating from this thing right now. There's death, rot, decay—

''{Cut to close up of Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Damp, moist, kimchi!

''{Cut to a close up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{an alarm goes off}'' Ah! It's time. ''{shot of all three}'' Let's do this.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{As Homestar and Coach Z walk off}'' Ugh, not again....

''{Cut to a close-up of a speaker on a wooden pole}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' That's right, ladies and gentlemen! ''{Cut to a shot of The Announcer in the booth}'' For your between-inning unjoyment, it's the Bumbling Mascot Race around the Field!

''{Matt and Mike sing "Yakety Sax" while Coach Z, Homestar, and Strong Bad randomly move around a baseball diamond.}''

''{Cut to the inflatable gorilla with a sign that reads "The Ending Here!"}''

'''MATT:''' Does it end different?

'''MIKE:''' I dunno. Let's do it again.

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the Gorilla's mouth at the end to see an animation of a video game with the mascots.
*:''{A black screen with "GAME START!" appears. The mascots run around on platforms and ladders based off the old video game 'Burger Time', while Mike and Matt hum the theme music. Eventually, Mike stops humming. "GAME OVER" flashes on screen.}''
*:'''MATT:''' Go longer.
*:''{Mike starts and stops again}''
*:'''MATT:''' No, I mean you stopped longer.

*Click on the word "Here!" at the end to see Homestar and Coach Z (as Poppy and Stoppy, respectively, from [[theme park]]) have a conversation.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Man, these mascot costumes in Strong Bad's imagination are ''way'' better than the real-life ones!
*:'''COACH Z:''' Boy, I'll say! Mine's got a minibar and air conditionin'!
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' My ol' Dumple costume had air conditioning. It conditioned the air to think it smelled like... dead zut.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Kimchi|Kimchi]] is a pickled Korean dish made with beef stock, cabbage, and hot peppers, and is known for its distinctive pungent smell.
*Mascots or other costumed figures are featured at [[Wikipedia:Sausage Race|several]] [[Wikipedia:Presidents Race|ballparks]] racing around the field between innings during baseball games.

===Remarks===
*The collar and tie on Strong Bad's costume have been moved down since their last appearance, to make room for the door.
*Although Strong Bad denies being a [[Smoking|smoker]], he's been seen to smoke a cigar in [[Store Thank You Message]].
**In consideration that the costumes are likely made from [[Polymascotfoamalate]], smoking in one would be potentially dangerous (more so than usual), as seen in [[4 branches]].
*Strong Bad indicates that the three of them are grown men; a rare clue as to [[Ages of Characters|their relative ages]].
*Just as it was in [[Blubb-O's Commercial]], the Gremlin's passenger-side window is completely opaque and gray.
*When Strong Bad runs around at the end of the toon and in the Easter egg, the door on his costume switches sides whenever he turns around. However, the animation in these sequences seems to be intentionally poor.

===Inside References===
*The various costumes:
**Strong Bad appears as the [[Tragic Clown Dog]], seen in [[part-time job]]. (At the end of that email, however, he quit working for Bubs.)
**Coach Z appears as the [[Drive-Thru Whale]], from [[Blubb-O's Commercial]].
**Homestar once more wears his [[Jolly Dumple]] costume, first seen in [[mascot]]. (The sing-along style of Homestar's song, as well as the ending, are also references to this email.)
**In an Easter egg, Coach Z and Homestar appear as [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Mascots|Poppy]] the [[Tire]] and [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace! USA#Mascots|Stoppy]] the [[Stop Sign]], who appeared in [[theme park]].
*The pink border in the [[Mount Ridesplace, USA]] Easter egg is from [[dreamail]].
*Strong Bad [[Smoking|smokes]] a white [[crayon]].
*The background music for Homestar's orientation song is the version of the CGNU Fight Song played by a high school band that was featured as the [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-02-09|Quote of the Week]] on February 9, 2006.
*Strong Bad mentions "[[Peeing|pee]], [[coffee]], and [[Pregnancy|maternity leave]]" as the types of breaks he has taken that day.
*Homestar mentions [[sucks]] during his song.
*Coach Z mentions his smells as being [[moist]].

===Real-World References===
*The instrumental "[[Wikipedia:Yakety Sax|Yakety Sax]]" is sung while the mascots race around the Athletic Field. This song is perhaps best known for its use on ''[[Wikipedia:The Benny Hill Show|The Benny Hill Show]]''.
*The Easter egg activated by clicking the gorilla's mouth is a parody of [[Wikipedia:BurgerTime|BurgerTime]].
*The [[page title]] is a reference to the band [[Wikipedia:Thinking Fellers Union Local 282|Thinking Fellers Union Local 282]].

==External Links==
{{extlinks|onbreak|15746}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

Talk:Compy Catalog

AbdiViklas — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:50:26 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* McDonald's Reference? */ yup

==Thumbs==
Does anyone notice Strong Sad's thumb in this short? It's placed in a slightly humaner position. It only applies to (our) right, but I think it's worth mentioning. [[User:Strong Intelligent|SI.com!]]

== Poopmail ==

I'm pretty sure that TBC speculated on the Poopsmith as the local mailman before, on some DVD commentary. Does anybody know which one it was and whether this should be mentioned in the article? --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 09:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:In [[secret identity]]'s commentary, they speculated that [[Coach Z]] is the mailman. Is that the one you're referring to? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 09:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::Oops, must have confused some things. Thanks for clearing that up! --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 09:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== McDonald's Reference? ==
When Strong Bad says "The Compé, because flat-panel sophistication demands made-up words", is he referencing those McCafé commercials? Just a thought, {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 13:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think so; Café is a real word, just with Mc in front. Compé is not a real word. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 14:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::But the commercials ''did'' make up fake words, other than just café. They replaced the "e" in regular words with "é" to form fake ones, like "commuté". Actually, I was reminded of those commercials, too! [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 14:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I was reminded of those comemrcials, also. The making up of words with ending é's, the fancying up of compy to compé, and even the fancying up of joke to joké. it reminds me of the MCCafé commercials. — {{User:Young Roy/sig}}
::::Aaaand me too. In particular, the notion of the added é making everyday objects more special (or, though McDonald's doesn't say so outright, more quasi-European). [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== The Cheat Smiling ==

Another instance of the cheat smiling. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 14:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:So put it in. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Trivial Trivia ==

'''Eighty-thousand pennies is 800 dollars.'''

Is this obvious fact really necessary? --[[User:Periodic Table Greg|Periodic Table Greg]] 14:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I would leave it in, but that's just me. i say take it to STUFF. lol {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::I found it helpful. Originally I thought 80.000 pennies would be only 80 dollars, because I'm not too familiar with your currency system. (Edited because UI realized I just suck at math. However, my point still stands.) --[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 16:19, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It's best to keep it just for those who might not know US currency too well. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:22, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== new design ==

Anyone else notice that Stong Sad has a new design is this toon?--[[Special:Contributions/66.29.169.1|66.29.169.1]] 16:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[[Strong_Sad_Evolution|Yes]], apparently. Nevermind. --[[Special:Contributions/66.29.169.1|66.29.169.1]] 16:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Compy Catalog

AbdiViklas — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:48:50 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Transcript */ We don't use improper punctuation just to show timing

{{toonnav|Shorts|compycatalog|Where My Hat Is At? (toon)|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[File:Compy Catalog.png|thumb|The Roomy-Vac is a real powerHOUSE...get it?]]
Strong Bad chooses a new computer.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' Monday, August 3, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:48

'''Page Title:''' If it doesn't say Compy, it might not be a Computer.

==Transcript==
''{The Poopsmith opens Strong Bad's mailbox and puts a letter in it. He is wearing a postal uniform with a small picture of The Cheat on the shirt. He closes the mailbox and walks away. Birds can be heard in the background. Cut to Strong Bad's Basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's here!

''{cut to The Cheat in the crisper drawer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's here!

''{cut to Strong Sad's room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's finally here!

''{music begins.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' It's here!

''{zoom in to Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' It's here! It's fina-l-ly here!

''{zoom out to a full-body shot. Confetti shoots out from off-screen.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{singing}'' There's no more time for expectat—

''{Strong Bad pokes his head in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{sadly}'' That was the happiest I've ever been...

''{cut to the mailbox. Strong Bad runs to it and grabs a slip of paper that's in it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I've been waiting all dang year for this!

''{zoom into a pamphlet that has the Compy logo on it, also saying "NEW PRODUCTS CATALOG". The year "2009" has been pasted over the year "1989".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The 2009 Compy new products catalog!

''{cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' A new compy catalog is like Decemberween morning,

''{a picture of a present pops up in a thought bubble above him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' my birthday,

''{a bazooka pops up beside it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' A candy store,

''{the [[SBLOUNSKCHED]] bar pops up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' and Strong Sad's funeral all wrapped together up in one piece of junk mail!

''{a party blower pops up next and blows. The clouds then disappear.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now I can finally find a suitable replacement for the Lappy!

''{Strong Bad opens the catalog. Six laptops are on the first page, in various shades of tan. The text above the laptops say "A rainbow of choices!" The text below it says "Fabulous flourescents!}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh, look at this new line of brightly colored Lappies! Neon Tan,

''{a laptop of that color appears on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gray Passion, Rodeo ''{pronounces like "ro-day-oh"}'' Beige, Italian Same, Glittery Taupe.

''{zoom out to a full body shot of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Seems like these are more for those stylish ladies and the rat-dogs that— Wait. did they just try to tell me ''same'' is a color?

''{flips the page}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{reading}'' Our most family-friendly Compy ever,

''{cut to a picture of a very large computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The roomy-vac is a computer for the entire household! Woah! Comes with built-in printer,

''{cut to a zoom-in of a built-in printer with paper feeding out of it. The text "Built-in!" flashes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Eight-inch monitor,

''{cut to a small monitor with a keyboard in front of it still built into the large computer. The text "Eight-in!" flashes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Three bedroom, two-and-a-half bath!

''{a family appears in front of the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And a front door for easy access!

''{a front door appears on the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{reading, monotone}'' The Roomy-Vac is a real powerHOUSE...get it? Oh, you don't? Well, because it's the size of a... Oh, you were kidding? You do get it? Pretty good, huh? No?

''{the price "$240,999.99" is below it but not read. Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why would they print that whole exchange? Anyway, what else they got?

''{flips the page.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{reading}'' Do you have problems opening up digital pictures of your grandkids or taking four consecutive steps? Then have we got a Compy for you!

''{cut to a computer similar to the [[Compy 386]], only with a [[Needlepoint]] screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Grampy Aught-Six utilizes easy to read 400-point type!

''{as Strong Bad speaks, the letters "Dear Oldie," appear on the screen two letters at a time, scrolling with a clang sound.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Turning even the shortest email into an unforgettable all-day affair! And you'll never lose track of our new

''{a very large arrow-shaped cursor appears on the screen.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' meat-loaf sized cursor,

''{The cursor transforms into a pixelly meat loaf.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' it's ''shaped'' like meat loaf too!

''{cut to a mouse.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Optional mouse, that is an

''{the mouse transforms into an ''actual'' mouse}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''actual'' mouse that will pre-chew your food for you, sold separately. The Grampy Aught-Six.

''{zoom out to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Because Piccadilly's not open 24 hours.

''{flips the page, followed by a record scratch}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, my goodness, graphics. I like the looks of ''{high-pitched}'' thiis!

''{cut to a modern-looking computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Compé, because flat-panel sophistication demands made-up words.

''{zoom into the Compé.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Compy Compé delivers European-sounding flair,

''{Europe flies on the screen with the text "FLAIR" in it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' With southeast Asian-sounding prices.

''{Southeast Asia flies in with a dollar sign in it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' My two most favorites!

''{explosion occurs. Cut back to Strong Bad who tosses the catalog in the air.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sooold! I'm gonna put my eighty thousand pennies in the mail right now!

''{Strong Bad tosses a very large bag onto the mailbox with the word "compé" written on it. There is a single stamp on the right corner.}''

''{yellow text on a black background: 2-4 weeks later...}''

''{cut to Strong Bad sitting at the desk with the Compé sitting on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Compé, that accent mark better not let me down!

''{he then turns it on. The word "compé" appears on the screen with a sigh.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So sleek. So-phisticated. So, Compé.

''{The Compé then pulls up a system error that reads the following:}''

<blockquote>FRAGRANT SYSTEM ERROR 
Your brand new computer is bloke. 
Please prepare to wait on hold 
with tech support for several hours. 
The current tech support smugness 
level is RED.</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the?

''{Strong Bad screams with frustration. The computer laughs and flashes the words "i joké" on-screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh-ho-ho-ho. A wise guy, eh? I think you and me are gonna get along ''just fine'', Compé.

''{cut to the picture of the Compé in the catalog.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' It's here! It's here! It's fina-l-ly here!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The Compé's error message, "Fragrant Computer Error. Your brand new computer is bloke." is an example of R/L confusion that often characterizes [[Engrish]].

=== Trivia ===
*Eighty thousand pennies is 800 dollars. 
**Eighty thousand pennies would also weigh roughly 450 pounds.
*When zoomed in, the card on the Decemberween present in Strong Bad's imagination reads:
<blockquote>TO: 
STRONG BAD 
FROM: 
MOM OR DAD</blockquote>
*When Strong Bad throws his bag of eighty thousand pennies onto the mailbox, several can be seen falling out.

===Remarks===
*Assuming the laptop's screen hinges are facing upward, when opened, the Compy logo would be upside down.
*The catalog showed six different colored laptops on one page, but five are shown individually.

===Goofs===
*Fluorescent is misspelled in the first page of the catalog.
*When Strong Bad is in front of the Compé, the screen's reflection can also be seen below the screen, but not above it.

===Inside References===
*When Strong Bad mentions a candy store, a [[SBLOUNSKCHED! bar]] appears.
*Strong Bad mentions [[Decemberween]] and [[Strong Sad's Death|Strong Sad's funeral]].
*The Cheat is lying in the [[Crisper Drawer]].
*[[Strong Sad Smiling|Strong Sad]] and [[The Cheat Smiling|The Cheat]] both smile in this cartoon.
*Strong Bad greeted [[The King of Town]] with "Dear Oldie" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Strong Bad pulls his eighty thousand pennies out of [[hammerspace]].
*The "Flagrant System Error" message originated in [[50 emails]].
*Strong Bad previously said "A wise guy, eh?" to the [[Compy 386]] in [[virus]].
*The "sb_snailmail.exe" mailbox first appeared in the email [[other days]].
*An [[explosion]] is seen when "European Flair" and "Southeast Asian Prices" collide.

===Real World References===
[[File:mailman_compare.png|thumb|Poopsmith dressed as the mailman.]]
*The Poopsmith is dressed as the Postman from [[The Legend of Zelda]] series, except with images of The Cheat on the hat and belt, instead of a rabbit head.
*[[Wikipedia:Piccadilly Cafeterias|Piccadilly]] is a cafeteria chain.
* The Roomy-Vac is a take off on [[Wikipedia: UNIVAC I|UNIVAC]], the first commercial computer. Early computers would usually occupy entire rooms or even buildings.

==External Links==
{{extlinks|compycatalog|15700}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

Talk:Cheat Commandos: 2 Part Episode: Part 2

AbdiViklas — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:53:44 GMT

AbdiViklas: /**/The Trouble with Topples

== Holy Crap Language! ==
The clearly say the "d" word in the ramming song. Or so I heard. Is that a swear count? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:He says "Dang". See the page title. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 21:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Rag Tag Band? ==

I heard him say "Ragtime band" as if.. to make a pun joke.
:Me too! Cause, you know, it's funny. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Donnie's 12th Birthday ==

Is it a reference to [[Donnie Chapman]]? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 00:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
: That's what whoever wrote one of the Fun Facts that's been on the page for a while seems to think. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Liquid/Lick ==

I head Swampslash's last battery line as "Lick" rather than "Liquid"
Refering to people licking batteries just to see if it does shock your tongue. {{User:Khsh/sig}} 01:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Braveheart? ==

"And then we all reverse flank, drop trou, and the insurgents should surrender!" isnt this a reffrence to braveheart?
:Hm—maybe (though it's notable that in Braveheart it's the insurgents who ''do'' the mooning). I was wondering whether it had something to do with Gunhaver's boxers—I still don't understand that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Swampslash imitating Homestar? ==

When Swampslash is disguised as the D-cell battery and he's saying words like, "Charge. Rabbit." - isn't he imitating Homestar in the sbemail where he's disguised as a trash can and saying, "Garbage. Rubbish." ... ? Just a thought.

== The Trouble with Topples ==

Does it seem to anyone else that Subtlefuge refers to his group with a "Tr-" sound? As in Troublegangers? (Though his pronunciation still makes it sound like "Trouplegangers.") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Cheat Commandos: 2 Part Episode: Part 2

AbdiViklas — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:48:46 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Braveheart? */I mean, seriously. Why?

Talk:Cheat Commandos: 2 Part Episode: Part 2

AbdiViklas — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:39:51 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Rag Tag Band? */C'mon and hear! C'mon and hear! Alexander's Rag-tag Band!

== Holy Crap Language! ==
The clearly say the "d" word in the ramming song. Or so I heard. Is that a swear count? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:He says "Dang". See the page title. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 21:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Rag Tag Band? ==

I heard him say "Ragtime band" as if.. to make a pun joke.
:Me too! Cause, you know, it's funny. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Donnie's 12th Birthday ==

Is it a reference to [[Donnie Chapman]]? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 00:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
: That's what whoever wrote one of the Fun Facts that's been on the page for a while seems to think. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Liquid/Lick ==

I head Swampslash's last battery line as "Lick" rather than "Liquid"
Refering to people licking batteries just to see if it does shock your tongue. {{User:Khsh/sig}} 01:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Braveheart? ==

"And then we all reverse flank, drop trou, and the insurgents should surrender!" isnt this a reffrence to braveheart?

== Swampslash imitating Homestar? ==

When Swampslash is disguised as the D-cell battery and he's saying words like, "Charge. Rabbit." - isn't he imitating Homestar in the sbemail where he's disguised as a trash can and saying, "Garbage. Rubbish." ... ? Just a thought.

User talk:AbdiViklas

AbdiViklas — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:56:51 GMT

AbdiViklas: /* Baby daddy */Elizagerth it is!

=='''Explanatory note'''==
On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from '''notstrongorbad''' to '''AbdiViklas'''. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

==Toolbox==
For my use and whoever else finds it helpful:
*[[Wikipedia:List of XML and HTML character entity references|HTML character references]]
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thanks abdi--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 14:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Welcome! You've Got Mail ==
Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

=== Petition ===
We, the undersigned, do beleive it <strike>would be</strike> ''is'' very cool to see a [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] user page. ''Moreover, we sincerely thank ''notstrongorbad'' for writing such an amazing user page!'' (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC) ''KL''
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
*{{User:The Paper/sig}}
*{{User:Pertmywert/sig}}
*[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]
*— {{User:Lapper/sig}}
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=== Yay! ===
I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
::LOL. Nice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Can you help me? ==

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai
:     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; [[Help:Contents|Help]] is mostly on ''how'' to do things, [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] more on ''what'' to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at [[Help:Contents#Specific Help]]. 
:     But to answer your question: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in [[Talk:geddup noise|that email's Talk page]], and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into [[Template:STUFF/geddup noise|Stuff]], using the process described in [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference]] is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know. 
:     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in [[do over]], there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible [[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29|Family Guy reference]]. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|continue the debate]]. 
:     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape. 
:     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on [[guitar]]. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Tha Lyrical Flow==
Hey, '''notstrongorbad''', just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the ''same time''? Can it be ''done''? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), ''no'' talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called '''grad school''' (imagine [[origins|jittery green text]] plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? '''No one knows when to come in.'''") 
:     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::'''nsob''', I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of [[Wikipedia:The Descendents|The Descendents]] and the [[Wikipedia:Dead Kennedys|Dead Kennedys]], so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in [[comic]] for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, ''much'' easier to deal with than an actual drummer.

:::For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, [[Wikipedia: The Alkaline Trio|The Alkaline Trio]], except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator ''so'' authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::'''Abdi''' - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., ''prima donnas''), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

:::::nice. just nice. next there'll be a guitar that gets hangovers and doesn't even ''show up'' for practice. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Heimstern responds! ==
Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==New name==
Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::That better? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw [[HRWiki:Changing username|Changing username]] after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from Schuminweb ==

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. [[User:Schuminweb|Schuminweb]] 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalization... It used to be so coooool... ==

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! ''{said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Rant re TGS 10 ==
''{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}'' 
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking [[Talk:geddup_noise#Rant_Re:_Reality|at length]]. I can feel it coming. 
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction ''within'' the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in [[comic]], it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices). 
     ''On the other hand'', several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—'''now'''—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself ''into'' the interior fiction, then causes his representation ''in that world'' to interact with its characters, then interacts ''himself'' across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees. 
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the ''first'' time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact '''not''' Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF nuances==
Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a ''huge'' problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC chatroom]] sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. How are ya? When there's more than one STUFF revision, it's not necessary for you to completely move your vote. You should just decline one revision and accept the other. (You could also decline more than one revision, should you choose.) When one of the votes is close, it's actually better if you don't remove yours from the list. The only thing that isn't currently allowed is for someone to ''accept'' more than one revision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you for the welcome. ==

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--[[user:Kookykman|The Kooky One]][[User talk:Kookykman|(talk)]] 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Note to Self ==

Cheat talk standardized through Puppet Time. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Pages that need serious work, or completion, if I (or anbody else for that matter) happen to be bored:'''
*[[Happy Trogday]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit Visuals]]
*[[Ballad of The Sneak#DVD Version]]

'''Issues to check in on from time to time:'''
*[[Mellow Mushroom/The Sun Almost Rises]]
*stripe-ed etc.
*teenage variations

== Duffrence ==

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

:If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read [[HRWiki:User space]]. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

:Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.

== slight mistake ==
Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto [[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82's]] talk page.—[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::None at all. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Dude... ==

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was ''our'' Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07!
--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/ fanstuff wiki]? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner
:Cool. Yeah, I ''used'' the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Five tildes makes the date? 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC) FIle that under "Things I Didn't Know About MediaWiki"! Anyhoo, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm somewhat active on Wikipedia, so I know my way around a wiki. I came here for a bit of fun ;) {{User:Thetorpedodog/SIG}} 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's how I separated my name from the date on my welcome template! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks AbdiViklas! (just so you know, I was the one who created the real-world references for DVD version on [[garage sale]], but if you look in recent changes it shows an IP) I realized you left me a welcome message on my talk page (I am on2see, I can't get Firefox to remember wiki cookies (any help appreciated)) Thanks again! [[User:On2see|On2see]]
:Glad you got a username! Now then—you mean you're having a problem staying logged in because Firefox won't use the cookies? (And by the way, brownie points and good karma to ya for using Firefox!) For me, if I go to the '''Tools''' menu, then '''Options''', then the '''Privacy''' tab, I find the controls for cookies. My settings are "allow sites to set cookies," "for the originating site only," and keep "til they expire," and it seems to work fine for me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I changed my settings, but now on some pages it shows I am logged in (ex. on the page that shows right after I log in) and, well, ''sometimes not...'' (ex. right now as I am editing your talk page, it shows my ip address and also says '''create an account or log in'''... But thanks for the quick response! You're my favorite Wikipedian (really!) Thanks, [[User:on2see|on2see]]
:::Thanks! But what you're experiencing is still odd, and it would be nice to get it tracked down. One other thing: when I sign in, I usually select the "remember me" checkbox (since I'm using my own computer in my own apartment); if I hadn't, I'd need to sign in each time I re-open my browser. If you're using a private computer you might try that. Beyond that, you'll need the help of those who know more about these superboxes than I do, to figure out why your cookies are crumbling. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad = Marzipan ==

Hey Abdi! Yeah, I originally heard the song say "Strong Bad ''is'' Marzipan" also... I, too, thought that was weirder than weird. So, you're not alone. Crapfully yours, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC) ''{comment continued in next thread}''

== T-shirt pitches==
Hey, as a theory type, I was just muddling over whether there were any rhyme or reason to the pitches selected for the t-shirts in the store? I was on the verge of doing a set analysis, but somehow my sense of perspective must have put in an unwonted appearance. I mean, it's probably just Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic--but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to accidentally fit some complicated explanation! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:I wondered that myself. For awhile, I thought it was a whole tone scale, but I found that wasn't correct. So, after reading your question, I decided to use my theory chops (and that neat little trick called absolute pitch) to find out what it is. Here's what I got: A-B-C#-D#-F#-G#-A#-C-C#-D-Eb-F-G-Bb. So, there are some whole-tone segments, but it's certainly not entirely whole tone. Not to mention that I swear a few of them are some kind of quarter tone. I can't really find any good pattern for it at all (if only it had been octatonic! A little Homestravinsky Runner!) Geez, the other, normal, non-music-nerd people on the Wiki are going to have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Anyway, that's the answer I've got for your question. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::LOL!! Homestravinsky Runner—''there's'' something for Fanstuff. (How 'bout what would have happened if, instead of They Might Be Giants, they had outsourced [[different town]] to, say, Philip Glass? "''Towanisqatsi'': You'll Think You're Pea-Buried Alive!") But I'm going with the "Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic" analysis. (Though more interesting—perhaps venturing into psychoacoustics?—would be what intervallic structure, invented or otherwise, may have subconsciously influenced his output?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know where this fits into the discussion, but I think they recorded the sound once and then modulated it up and/or down. Other than the pitch, the sound effect is uniform from one T-shirt to the next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hm—true. Which would actually make it ''more'' likely that the resulting pitches are intentional. Hm. On closer inspection (and note, we're talking about the lineup in [[Flash Store]] here), I hear the last pitches from D through G a half step higher than you (Bb I hear the same). If this were true, and it were reduced into prime form—crap, it still wouldn't be chromatic. I'm not taking the time to think through this very carefully, but I ''think'' prime form would be G#-A-A#-B-C-C#-D#-E-F#. This would be chromatic for the span of a perfect fourth and octatonic for another perfect fourth; there, that makes as good a sense as any. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::: "Rondleman is my D-S-C-H!" Abdi, that is, IMHO, ''at least'' as good as Homestravinsky Runner! You crack me up! Crack! me! up! As for the pitches, you may be right (one thing that was driving me crazy was that a lot of them sounded like they were between two semitones). It's as good a theory as any. This has to be one of the weirdest intersections of Homestar Runner addiction and music nerdiness ever to appear on the Wiki... it's awesome. Maybe I should suggest that the other Homestar fans at my department read this. They'd probably think I've been smoking something. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, in particular that D and/or D# for the TGS shirt. If we take that to be a D, it gets even cooler: chromatic G#-D, one tritone; whole-tone D-G# (by implication), the remaining tritone!! (And yes... there needs to be a Trogdorcon-style segment of Strong Bad making fun of anybody who'd do what we just did.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So, I just found out that I wasn't even looking at the same set of pitches as you. I didn't realize the T-shirt pitches even existed in the new store and was using the old store t-shirt pitches. So, there may be a bit of difference because of that (notably, the old store had more pitches). That being said, I'm a little busy reading ''Stravinsky and the Rite of Spring'' right now to make any comparisons between the collections (although Prof. van den Toorn might be pleased if I found some octatonic/diatonic intersections in the collections...) Anyway, as always, I remain, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:No, I realized we were talking about the [[Flash Store]] when you cited 14 pitches, and my comments above have been in connection to them. I would guess that, even ''if'' there was a musical motivation in their pitch-shifting decisions for the 14-shirt lineup, the pitches that exist in the current store are simply a result of which t-shirts have been dropped. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== arguments??? ==

I don't give arguments to back up my edits!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:Oh. If you're talking about my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stephen923&diff=175892&oldid=169416 post on your talk page] about [[pizzaz]], then no, I don't normally post to people's talk pages when I edit either. In this case, though, you had already made the edit and I had reverted it several times, so I thought explaining myself might have been better than reverting at each other in silence. Incidentally, since then, I noticed somebody else (I forget who, but I think a sysop) put a "sic" in an html comment (<nowiki></nowiki>), saying he didn't like seeing them in the transcript. So your edit was actually a good one (although we should still put it in a comment). Unfortunately—since you ''don't'' give arguments to back up your edits, even by using the "Summary:" box, all I could tell was that you didn't know what ''sic'' means. Perhaps next time an edit summary would be helpful. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, it's about the Marshie history page.--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
::I see. Still, [[HRWiki:Standards#Always use the Summary box|using the summary box]] is a good idea. (Actually, more than just a good idea.) If you make an edit, you probably have a reason for doing so; explaining that reason might make others less likely to revert it, or at least let them know you're making thoughtful edits and not just trolling. (Getting a user name helps in the same way; props in that regard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Um...was this suppossed to be for me? That's what it says...if this is about the edits I have made with no summary, it was because I accidentally clicked "save page" before putting in the summary. -[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::No no, sorry 'bout that; I confused the two "S" people who posted on my page today. I was talking to [[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]. (And you don't have to tell me about the perils of clicking "Save page" too early; I need to learn to use "Show preview" more often. Then I'd have fewer consecutive edits where I correct my own spelling or add periods. And less crushed spirits, too!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::::From the Marshie history page, ''(Reverted edit of 24.24.226.13, who perhaps will give us some argument to back up his edit, and changed back to last version by DorianGray)''--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:::::Yes, I know what you're talking about. My reply is four paragraphs above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ooooooops!!! ==

I guess I should have looked the word "pronunciation" up in a dictionary before i changed it...sorry about that!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:S'cool! By the way, if you're using Firefox (if you're not... '''do!'''), there's a nice plugin called DictionarySearch that lets you right click on a word and look it up instantly in a dictionary. (I also used Firefox's "keyword search" function on www.m-w.com's search box, so I can just type, say, "mw pronunciation" into the address bar and go straight to the definition. Just two more examples of why Life Is Better With Firefox!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks for the advese...advise. [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Verse ==

I'm cool with making that read like poetry. I just copied it from the WP article. But is it a poem? I thought it was just a saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:Again, I assume it was in German at first. I added the slash because it was the only thing I could figure the semicolon was thinking of. It ''is'' a rhyming couplet; although it's certainly not "a poem," a lot of folk wisdom sayings are expressed in rhyme. I think the fun fact could do just fine without the slash, though; just so long as there isn't a semicolon there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::I just figured whoever put the semicolon there did so because of all the commas before it, in an attempt to separate it. But the solidus is fine with me. By the way, it's "[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]." :) 06:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::?? I.e. if I'm going to drop the "It's" you'd prefer I capitalize the ''d''? But don't you prefer the "It's" be included anyway? (I was being a little informal in the summary; sorry!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... I think all would be best explained by a trip to the first line of my [[User:It's dot com|user page]] (although I was also partially rebelling against the one-word "dotcom" variety from the edit summary on the STUFF page). — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 06:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Welcome==
Hey AbdiViklas. I was just wondering how you are welcoming people with your user page instead of a welcome. It is obvious that you are doing it by accident. Do you use a sub page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I'm supposed to type ''<nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''. In a hurry, I often forget the ''/welcome'' part. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Why don't you just copy and paste it? Thats what I do, and it has been working pretty well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suppose I could. It's one step longer than ''subst'', but fool-proof! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I have been doing it 150 times. No problems yet! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

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Thanks for the welcome. Almost as fast as we do at [http://furry.wikicities.com/ WikiFur] (and, truth be told, somewhat more polished ;-). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks! I know we've got at least one Furry enthusiast around here, [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]], although he hasn't been around much lately. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *chuckles* - yes, I know furrykef, he used to hang out with us in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicities #wikicities]. Been a fortnight since I've seen him - maybe he's gone on an online poker binge . . . [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sid and Marty Kroft Present: G.K. Chesterton ==

Abdi, because of you I now know of G.K. Chesterton. If I ever come across a "Father Brown" story, I'll know the truth - the truth embodied in a large, walrus-like British author/journalist. I now consider myself just that much richer in spirit. Next order of bwisness - determining the fate of Mayor McCheese. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Seriously. You should see me when I find out that there's some out-of-print story of his I haven't read! I do a little dance that certain NFL touchdowners have been known to refer to as "vulgar excess." So yeah, if you like detective stories, Father Brown is a great way to start (particularly ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/innocence/title.html The Blue Cross]'', but the best-known, and arguably best, piece of fiction he ever wrote is the novel ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/thursday/thursday.html The Man Who Was Thursday]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Losing the will to check the edits closely ==

I knew that would happen. Earlier today I had to force myself not just to hit the revert button, and actually examine the edit. Why won't this guy talk to us? On an unrelated note, I have, upon reflection, decided that compromise might be the best avenue for the New Boots/different town non-reference. It's too bad B left so quickly, before we could have a chance to really discuss it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Indeed, it's perplexing. I can't figure out whether he (or she, but he in the future for simplicity) is an extremely zealous, extremely well-meaning, extremely misguided individual, or a one-trick troll. Some of his edits really are improvements, like correcting something to reflect what SB really typed, but others seem to just add !s where there are few and take them away where there are many. But no, in the final analysis I think he must be well meaning. My only explanation for the silence is either that he's a true "gnome," who tries to do good but is shy and prefers anonymity, or that he's a user so new he hasn't discovered his own talk page or Recent changes, and is simply selecting emails at random. (Say—there isn't any kind of browsing setup that would keep someone from seeing the "new messages" banner, is there?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm confounded as well. My hunch was that he <s>or she</s> was never getting the message, hence my test on the sandbox, but I was able to receive my message to myself just fine as an anonny. And this guy's not even experiencing the weird IP changes I was, so that shouldn't be an issue. No, I think we're being ignored. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== On Trolling and other Isomorphisms... ==

Don't mind my nonsensical banter... I am currently (''not'') working on writing a statement of purpose for my fellowship application (properly read: ''avoiding it''). Don't ask when it's due, otherwise you'd be shocked. Anyway, I was thinking we should make up a section called ''[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=187594&oldid=187593 trolls post the dardnest things.]'' It would be a hit don't you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It would be ''hilarious''... but don't you think people would then ''try'' to get in it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, I'd read it. Several times. In fact, I'd print it and read it offline. Now I'm excited. I really hope this is able to be done ''somewhere''. I'd love helping this thing. Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::EDIT CONFLICT (or whatever): Yes, people trying to get in might be bad... Perhaps it'd be better to not broadcast the idea.
::I think they would want to get in. I admit that I've gotten an occasional guilty pleasure out of reading the ridiculous things trolls write (and I'm always thinking to myself, "This is vandalism! I'm not supposed to find this funny!") Anyway, it would just encourage trolls to keep vandalizing if they hoped to get featured somewhere on the Wiki. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm reminded, for some reason, of the Simpsons (or was it Futurama?) spoof of Bill Cosby's similarly titled show. What if this were done somewhere off-wiki? (I.e. on somebody's website or blog?) 
:Stux: What manner of beast is said fellowship application? It sounds like the sort of thing that carries high stakes. Me, all I have to do is transcribe some field notes and make some lesson plans, but I've been putting it off all day and so will stay up all night to make up (yeah, that's how I work). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:''(DorianGray): Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion.'' A hint of seriousness yes, an iota, I am not so sure ;). Unfortunately, yes, this could serve as an incentive. But have any of you guys ever read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense|Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense]] (or rather perused through it)? We'll always have trolls you know, just not as many as the big 'pedia, but even an increase might be 'enough'. As for the fellowship, it is a [http://was.nd.edu/gem/gemwebapp/public/gem_01_100.htm summer-work] type program that links you with industry and helps you pay for your grad school. I'm *finally* getting momentum, esp now that I found my grad school application essay and realized it will likely help me finish what i need to do! <insert *evil grin* here> :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I actually ''have'' gone through the Deleted Nonsense stuff on the big wiki. It's amazing... And I'm sure we have our fair share of weirdness... I know I've seen some. Now then. Back to the All Hallow's Eve toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::wow, i just looked at that page. hours of wierd things about evil squirrels and chocolate covered raisins......{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Note ==

It's not "What am I supposed to do?", but "What ''I'm'' supposed to do?". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oop. Thanks. That makes a little more sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or a little ''less'' sense, depending on how you look at it. I guess it makes more sense for Homestar. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==Solfège...==

Humming RE-MI-DO-DO-SOL, eh? What does that refer to? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/ Close Encounters of the Third Kind]''. Aliens contact Earth—and choose moveable do as the best method of communication. (Seriously—they even know the hand symbols!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::That would explain my lack of recognition. I haven't seen that film. And am not missing much, apparently, if it features moveable do. I really dislike moveable do. Talk atcha later. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::WHOA no you don't—knock moveable do and then just postpone the discussion!!! (For onlookers, this is what music nerds fight over. It's like which Elvish language is better.) And them '''is''' fightin' words. I'm not going to go into my rant on the subject at the moment, but it's very entertaining (as long as I don't break anything). On the other subject, you ought to see movie; if you like sci-fi it's a classic, but even if you don't it's a well-shaped movie for its time. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That's it, man! We are dueling to the death! A PLAGUE UPON MOVEABLE DO! No, just kidding. It's only a personal dislike, not a pedagogical philosophy or anything like that. But, since I have absolute pitch, I don't find it very useful. I prefer a system that always calls a C a C. I actually just use the German names of notes (since they're all monosyllables). I guess a lot of people find moveable do useful, but I was always annoyed that my teachers made me use it too when it isn't my ''modus operandi'' at all. Anyway, that's my philosophy. Talk to my man with the green and white stripes. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that ''is'' my objection to fixed do (one of them); as long as we're using these letters, it's simply a redundant system. If we were French it would be different, but at the moment we already have a system tied to absolute pitch. (Learning it for the purpose of international communication is a different matter; I have a Korean student whom I use it with since he grew up with it; but for sight-singing purposes it doesn't really bring anything new to the party, where as moveable brings an opportunity to engage tonality.) I guess, in pedagogical contexts, its supporters are putting a higher priority on developing absolute pitch than on developing sensitivity to tonal function. Personally, preferring a less eurocentric view of musics, I'm not as wed to a 12-note, octave-based, equal-tempered system as the be-all and end-all; I think training students to critically match a provided pitch is the most important. (I keep having dreams of writing a piece of ear training software with string instruments in mind that uses some midi controller with a slider—preferably emulating the physical instrument—to adjust the user's pitch to match a generated one, with visual representation on-screen and a little "you win!" message when it matches!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I suppose you're right, it's just that I've never used real fixed-do, just my German system (which I usually consider a variant on fixed-do). I don't really have any use for old do, re and mi except when singing ''The Sound of Music'' (which I don't really ever sing). For me, sightsinging is much easier with an absolute pitch system, so I sing "ah, ha, tseh, tseh, deh" (for the Glance motive from ''Tristan'') or whatever for whatever notes I need. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, for my own use, I prefer "moveable la." (Something we used to joke about in college—"La, la, la, la..." Not to mention moveable na, doot, and doo. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
''{conversation continued in next section...}''

Oh, something just came into my mind about this earlier today: About the first pronouncement I ever heard on the topic of moveable-do (or any kind of solfège) was from my fabulously musical mother, who bluntly told me, "Solfège is stupid." So, I was probably biased against it from the beginning, and that surely contributed to my bad attitude about it for the rest of time. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==...And the Absoluteness of Absolute Pitch==
I really don't have anything useful to add to this conversation, other than to say I understood it, and to agree with AbdiViklas, because moveable do makes way more sense in the sense of teaching singing within a key or when a particular key isn't important (I realize that's a strange concept to someone with perfect pitch (which I don't have, but I wish I did. I do have pretty good pitch memory, so if you ask me to sing an F, I can usually hit it or at least get within a half step, but I can't hear a note out of the blue and immediately say, Oh, that's an A-sharp)). I still, however, think both AbdiViklas and Heimstern Läufer are cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:And the sentiment is mutual. I have this weird thing that I've heard referred to as "acquired pitch"; i.e. from playing the violin so long I've developed pitch-identification ability within its range, but my skillz have an abrupt cutoff at the bottom note of the violin. Also, certain instrumental "voiceprints" completely throw me for a loop. I can ID a pitch on piano, flute, oboe, saxophone—but I'm pretty inconsistent with clarinet. And, frustratingly, the human voice! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I hear about people being able to identify pitches only on certain instruments all the time. I've never had that experience; to me, a pitch is a pitch, whatever instrument it is. I've actually often wondered what it would be like not to be able to identify and produce pitches at will, and I admit that it baffles me as much as it must baffle the normal people to know that I can do so. Oh, and Dot com, you may not want to wish you had absolute pitch. It's a really neat party trick, but it can be really frustrating. If someone starts singing a song in a key other than the original, it really grates on me. Then there's period-instrument recordings: while I certainly respect their intentions, I really can't listen to them because they play everything too low. So, those are the disadvantages of absolute pitch. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, now I don't have that problem. I can ''tell'' when something isn't aligned to a modern, Western, equal-temperament A-440 scale, but I don't suffer under it. After all, our selection of A-440 is so arbitrary (unless there's some kind of acoustic principle I don't know about, like the circumference of the earth divided by the distance to da mooon on the winter solstice equals A-440), and, although there are some mathematical arguments for our division of the octave, I prefer to engage the scale systems of other cultures on their own terms. Admittedly, it is a little hard for me to listen to a [[Wikipedia:Gamelan|Gamelan]] and remember that it's not just "out of tune," that they tuned it to those pitches just as carefully as I do, but if it's a 10-minute piece I get acclimated before long. The alternative is the colonial British attitude that dismissed the Carnatic system as a primitive "folk music" because their "poor intonation" was "indicative of a bad ear."
:::     And yeah, I played in Eastman's baroque ensemble for a couple of years (I didn't realize at first what a resource I had there, or who [http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=115 Paul O'Dette] was!), and it really throws you for a loop to play roughly an exact half step down. After the first 10 minutes of the rehearsal, though, I just get recalibrated into "Baroque mode." (But when listening to my prized [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm Freiburger] CDs, I still mentally identify what I'm hearing as a half step below what's written, and if I try to think about it it screws me up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Arbitrary A=400 is indeed, yet it is completely ingrained into my ear. I guess it wouldn't make a difference if the Baroque ensemble were playing a piece I didn't know, since I wouldn't know its real key (although it sounds odd to me to hear a Baroque piece in Db major, since that was a rather uncommon key during that era.) The biggest problem is anything well-known: if it's ''The Messiah'' or a Brandenburg concerto the lower pitch is just going to sound wrong to me. Ahistorical and arbitrary, but still part of my congnition. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, same here. I have the problem of kind of subconsciously imagining the physicality of the note, i.e. the fingering they're doing—which gets pretty funky in Db (or Gb!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Pitch (music)#Historical pitch standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Amen, hallelujah, preach it. Also http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1305.htm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Hi guys! I've been following this conversation for a while, and I figured I may have something to actually contribute: I have this vague recollection from my physics II class that the reason 440Hz is used is in part due to resonance qualities of the material. That is, that would be why we'd use 440Hz and not 439 or 441. (????) I'm trying to find out more about the subject, then again reading about [[Wikipedia:Pitch_%28music%29#Need_to_standardize_pitch|Pitch standardization]] suggests that I remembered it wrong, and that the resonance frequencies have to do with all the ''C'' frequencies being the same, and the pitch really IS arbitrary. (Apparently they tried to set A at 439 once but it being prime was really hard to reproduce). While reading i'm learning about such big phrases as [[Wikipedia:Fundamental_frequency|Fundamental_frequency]] and [[Wikipedia:Harmonic series (music)|Harmonic series]]. Hmmm, maybe I don't have anything to contribute... I like shiny things. (There, that's better!). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::But don't assume we ''really'' play at A-440 today. We had an Israeli/French/German conductor at Eastman who routinely tuned us to 442 or so. I hear it's fairly popular in Europe (but what do you expect from people who drink Warm Ones). I hear also there's some concern about pitch just continuing to rise "out of control" (see a [http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-January/001455.html response] to that concern). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! Did I just read that correctly? Fines by the Italian government for tuning forks outside of 440!? O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Proposed, proposed. And as I read more I'm getting very confused; I'm not sure what connection [[Wikipedia:Lyndon LaRouche|a guy]] who tried to run for president from jail has to the Italian senate, or whether any bill with his name on it would really be taken seriously. On the one hand, it must seem remarkable to the general onlooker that these music nerds are ''at'' each other's ''throats'' over a half-step, but on the other hand the whole "Slatkin serves Satan" thing and the absurdity of all these shenanigans are vaguely pleasing to me. They renew my faith that the "classical" music scene has not simply ossified into an arena for the performance of 18th-century works with 19th-century sensibilities amid 20th-century conventions of a darkened, hushed audience composed mainly of nursing home excursions and tobacco heiresses trying to assuage their inherited guilt by donating to a cause that is both ostensibly societally uplifting and effectually exclusivist. Rather, it offers hope that the sheer ''messiness'' we see in music history—with major composers' mud-slinging, name-calling, old-school/new-school ([[Wikipedia:Ars nova|Ars nova]], [[Wikipedia:Claudio Monteverdi|seconda practica]]), East-coast/West-coast-style invective, rampant rumors that certain [[Wikipedia:Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini|virtuosi]] ''did'' in fact "serve satan," and audiences that simultaneously awarded their [[Wikipedia:Farinelli|favorite vocalists]] with lives of fame, free love, and [http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/a/plate_ipa00014.html gratuitous jewelry] that rival any modern-day blingster, and then gossiped obliviously through the operas to the point that even their pet stars, when their arias came, had to come out to the edge of the stage, grab the spotlight, and gesticulate broadly to wrest their attention—is not dead. (If you didn't follow that sentence, leave out everything between the dashes.) In a way, it's almost a performance art of sorts; LaRouche, his critics, the respective governments, and the colorful, vicious, vivacious rhetoric form one big, societal piece of entertaining pageant—"reality opera," if you will! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hallrunner ==

Awesome job on [[Hallrunner]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I was bored, and using "random page" until I found something worth editing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==wiki defender thing...y==

Hey abdi, thanks for the trophy!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, dude! That's was awesome to see first thing in the morning! [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 19:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hey; that seemed to me to be the clearest example I've seen yet of what it was meant for. But you know, with a little extra effort it would have been chock full of Steak-umms! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks also from me. :) I didn't do much, but I appreciate it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And many ''mahalos'' from me too. I think that was the ultimate recognition I've always wanted on here... Thanks, man. And I'd just about had it with that trolling toaster. So I stepped in to fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hizzlary Hahn==

So I just got back from a Hilary Hahn concert. She stuck around afterwards to sign CDs; I cursed myself for not bringing mine, and for not bringing a camera. Can you imagine how a photo of me 'n' Hilary would look on my user page?! (If you're having trouble understanding the significant beautification that this would represent for my page, examine [http://www.hilaryhahn.com hilaryhahn.com].) You have to understand, she's like exactly my age; when I was 16 I bought her solo Bach CD simply because she was on the cover (and no, we're not talking about a [[Wikipedia:Lara St. John|Lara St. John]] cover; her eyebrow alone was enough to sell me), and have harbored a crush ever since. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:This may actually be the first time I've heard of anyone having a crush on a famous ''classical'' musician. I can't say I've ever had one of those myself. At least I'm glad to hear that not ''all'' the heartthrobs have to be no-talents like Britney Spears. Anyway, that's cool you got to see Hilary Hahn in concert; I hear she's great, although I haven't yet heard her myself. I probably don't listen to as much violin solo music as you do, since I'm a horn-player-turned-tenor. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::They say you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but if she plays half as hot as she looks, then you had an extremely enjoyable concertgoing evening, to put it mildly. You should have drawn a picture of her and handed it to her after the concert. She would have posted it on her website. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah, but she does, that's the marvel of it. Her strong suit is an absolute, impeccable, superhuman purity and perfection of tone and intonation. You could have a competition in which all the major violin supastars play only one note each, and she'd win, for her bow control. Others may have a tone that sounds perfect from 10 feet away, but then you could put it under a microscope and you'd find the tiniest jitter or bump in their sound and none in Hilary's. >>''Edit'': Wait, I just found an Amazon page that puts it well: "Her tone has the directness and intensity of a laser beam and the unblemished purity of fine-spun crystal." (That page, btw, is her own [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/580596/ref=ed_mus_mysh_qp_hahn_1/102-4070132-3504108 music recommendations]; the story of her convergence with [[Wikipedia:...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] is quite amusing.)<< That Her weakness is that her artistic persona and interpretations are fairly reserved, poised, collected, and cool. Not like she's a cold fish, or lacks emotive expression; she can bring it; but she's not all-over-the-place, blood-'n'-guts melodrama like [http://www.nadjasalernosonnenberg.com/ Nadja], and sometimes I want that. I'd actually prefer both artists for different pieces. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, Heimstern (can I call you Heimstern?), I played horn too! I'm immensely glad I chose it (due to its superiority over all the other brass instruments (I'll insert that qualifier there since this ''is'' AbdiViklas's page, and there's no need to be a bad guest here)), but the real reason I originally selected horn over trumpet is that this hot girl was also in the section. Another ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Yes, Dot com, please do call me Heimstern. I find it overly formal and awkward when people address me by both first name and surname (if those terms really apply to a pseudonym like "Heimstern Läufer"). I always did love the horn, and I picked it because I liked the instrument, not for any ulterior motives. (I also thought I'd have advantages finding the right notes because of absolute pitch.) Then came college and the teacher from the abyss. We were ''not'' meant for each other at all. So, I'm now a tenor. Let me tell you, the world of vocalists is ''miles'' away from the world of instrumentalists. Half of them seem to seriously believe that singing the right rhythm is optional. I've actually been working on a Schubert song, "Auf dem Strom", which features a horn part in addition to voice and piano. It has to be one of the most beautiful and heartrending songs ever written. It alone proves your point that the horn is the greatest of brass instruments, since no trumpet or tuba could ever be so lyrical and full of ''Sehnsucht''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 18:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::LOL—I had a tubist friend at Eastman who would be up in arms at that. Thanks to his friendship, I know far more about tubas, tuba rep, and where to buy tubas than I'll ever need to. I've also had the joy of hearing the last movement of the [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LWQH/qid=1132021791/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=classical Mendelssohn violin concerto] (listen to track 3) arranged for tuba!! "Bopbopbopbop ''boop'' boodeboop boop boop boop boop boop..." It's something like watching a hippo do a tap routine on a tightrope: astounding, but you wonder why it had to be done. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, tubists just exist in a completely alternate universe to us, anyway. My thought about them is the same thing all we tenors think about basses: "Why would anyone ''want'' to sing/play that low?" [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==I know I am not supposed to, but==

I need to talk again...
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you did it the right way this time. Forum ahoy! (Though I can't be much help; I'm leaving in half an hour for a big music teachers' convention.) There are plenty of smart folks over there, though, who can take my place. I will at least check up on your edits at the forum before I leave and when I get back Monday night. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey again, I sent a message to you in the forum, send a repply when you get the chance.
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==A telegrammaparcel==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Feel free to leave me an electronic message. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''
==Sweden??==
Judging by that message you posted on Sir Strong Bad's talk page, are you seriously from Sweden, or are you just saying that 'cause your name is Abdi'''Viklas'''? Because Sweden is totally my favorite country ever. Because I used to live in Sweden before we moved to Seattle. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, I'm no more from Sweden than [http://www.mclars.com/ MC Lars] is actually "[http://mclars.com/laptop_lyrics.html#stock Straight Outta Stockholm]." For what it's worth, I'm a hardcore fan of Swedish folk music, especially the group [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogArtist_01.asp?Action=Get&Artist_ID=45 Väsen]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::Never heard of it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Not an acceptable situation! Check out particularly their second US release, [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogAlbum_01.asp?Album_ID=101 Whirled] (even though it's from, like, '96, it's still their best single album). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I'll take a look at it. Thanks. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Hey there Abdiviklas, how have you been, i've noticed you mostly answer my questions in the discussion pages, lets get to konw each other:

1.Whats your real name?

2.What do you do for a living?

3.How did you get the name "AbdiViklas"?

4.How long have you been on Homestar runner wiki?

5.How did you find me?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, you can get some of the information you want from Abdi's [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]]. A person's user page is usually the best place to start if you want to know about a user. Hope that's helpful! (And, Abdi, hope you don't mind my butting in.) ''(grins sheepishly)'' [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not at all; I've been doing it a good bit myself recently! And he's right, Nikolce; my [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]] explains questions 3 and 4 pretty well. As for #1, I prefer not to use my real name on the internet if I can help it. And for #5, I found you by watching [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] and noticing the questions you were asking on discussion pages.
I have some questions for you, actually!
#How do you pronounce your name? With friends with international names, I like to at least make an effort to pronounce them correctly. I know it's hard to explain in writing, without being able to speak, but at least could you explain the "-ce" ending: does the "e" have much of a sound? If so, is it more of an "ey," like "hey," or "e" like "wet"? And what does the "c" do—a "s" sound, a "k" sound, or a "ch" sound?
#I think we're all a little confused about your gender. You mentioned that your name translates to "Nick," but [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] adressed you as a lady. (Here "Nick" is usually a guy's nickname, short for Nicholas; the female equivalent is "Nicole." I've never known a girl named "Nick," though I think I have heard of one who went by "Nicky."
#Umm... I guess I only had two questions, but a two-number list didn't seem like a real list. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:1. The way you say my name is would be like the same way to say Europian names: Nikolce Kocovski-Ne-kol-che Ko-cho-v-ske. 
:2.I'm male, its just that Nick is easier to say then Nikolce, I've never been called Nicholas or Nikky, but you can call me that if you wish. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== More Anagrams ==

Now look what you've done. That anagram thing you showed me is massively addicting. But there's one in particular I wanna share. "Strongbadia" can be arranged to spell "A brat's doing". Don't you love it when they work out and mean something relavent like that? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I personally think Strong Bad should abandon the "Prof. Tor Coolguy" moniker in favor of "Dr. Snot Bag". [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
::But who among us will agree that Strong Mad is "Most Grand"? Although Strong Bad would agree that Strong Sad "Drags Tons", I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Holy cow—what storm have I unleashed?? Those are supoib, guys. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== A Reply ==

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for caring. I appreciate it. [[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Don't mention it. In fact, it could be considered a school assignment, since I'm currently reading [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807746096/qid=1132443884/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 The Challenge to Care in Schools: An Alternative Approach to Education]. I find it a little alarming that the idea of giving a crap can be described as "an alternative approach," though in fairness it gets into way more than that. It's about creating a supportive classroom community that doesn't just announce the tenets of "character education" without really believing them, but models and values true... well, caring. Much more fun. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== On TOCs and other nuances ==

Hey Abdi! What's up? I wanted to brief you on TOC oddities since you asked about it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Coach_Z&diff=202369&oldid=202367 here]. Basically, what Mediawiki does is that it hides TOCs for pages with less than 3 titles (i think it's 3 at least), however there are special commands such as <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></code> that make the TOC be placed in that precise location and have the TOC always be hidden, respectively. I think that toc can make a TOC appear in short pages, but I think <code><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></code> might be more of what you need. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words This page] explains more in depth the different Magic Words available for use in the wiki. I hope this is helpful and informative! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Cool. I thought it had something to do with the titles, and added one at the top of the page (thinking the important thing was that the page start with one); that must have bumped it over three, since a TOC appeared. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jibney ==

Looking at Jibney's edit history, it looks like he's always been a little off-the-wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided he just wanted to start making gibberish edits here and there. But then again, it's also possible someone is trying to make him look bad. Any ideas? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think he was immitating president bush when he signed your guestbook. I think he just wants attention and wants it bad. My guess is that he either thought it would be ok to deface a vandal's ip user page, or it might even be his own and doesn't know he can't prove that it's his ip. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::'''(Edit conflict):''' Yeah; he ''has'' demonstrated an ability to write in at least semi-standard English (e.g. his last few responses on his user page). I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he has made legit article edits like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strongbadia&diff=prev&oldid=199670]. Remember several of our power users started out rough, with a block or two. ''{after edit conflict}'' ...and I would think it would be more in his interests to prove it's ''not'' his IP! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::''(I almost put this [[Talk:The_Brothers_Chaps%27_Fansite_Acknowledgements#Possession|in the wrong section]])'' Jibney claims to have been [[User:Timmy%21|Timmy]], who used to be a vandal. (Not a Visigoth) But yeah the changes are recent enough that it would be best that they are not his. But remember he doesn't have to explain that (innocent till proven guilty?), just explain his current actions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yep. And he also identifies himself as one Marshieman on the Fanstuff wiki, who apparently wore out his welcome there for general obnoxiousness in Aug and was blocked for a year. See [[User talk:Jibney#Hello, Marshieman.]]; apparently [[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] has some bad blood for him (see also [[User talk:Jibney#Heh heh...]]). Obviously he has his past, but I'd prefer to hold out hope whenever possible. A mentor orchestra teacher I know has several stories of kids that she would have paid money to get out of her class, who she didn't believe had ''any'' musical talent... who went on to attend conservatories and ultimately become music teachers themselves. Besides, unless blocks are made binding unilaterally across the wikis, he should be judged simply by what he does here.
::::To the best I can tell, neither [[User:Timmy!|Timmy]] nor [[User:Jibney|Jibney]] has ever been blocked here. The user Jibney was created, actually, at [[User:Kerrek_slaya|Kerrek_slaya]]'s suggestion when Timmy couldn't remember his password and didn't have an email address (see [[User_talk:66.169.119.137]]). And to avoid confusion, I strongly doubt that ''our'' [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]] has anything to do with him. His [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|edits]] consisted of a spree of obscene, offensive page moves roughly 5 hrs before Jibney's first edits. Timmy/Jibney's style tends to be at worst nonsensical or puerile and involve heavy AOLspeak. Jibney was created 5 hrs too late to give him an alibi, but I really don't think it's him. If I'm right, it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to make bad edits appear as his; the "Heh heh..." section of his talk page linked above seems to involve some such occurrence on fanstuff. Additionally, both here and on fanstuff, occasional runs of brazenly vandalistic and heavily misspelled edits have been made (e.g. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=185999], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186003], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186005], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186011]), which he has subsequently [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:66.169.119.137&diff=prev&oldid=186037 explained] as his little sister gaining access to his computer. Although Thatkidsam doubts his veracity rather sneeringly, compare the semiliterate raving of those edits to his explanation; although uncap.d, etc, it shows a different style. And the edit 2.5 hrs [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:boring_%28really%29&diff=prev&oldid=185897 before] the suspicious ones was even more prosaic. Bottom line: the guy makes things hard on himself through AOLspeak and impulsive editting that seems to make more sense to himself than to others, but I see in his saner edits the desire (or at least potential) to be a constructive member of the the wiki, and I'd prefer not to oppose that desire in anyone as long as it remains at the forefront. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow! That is the most thorough analysis of a user I have '''ever''' seen! I didn't even know how many colons to use to indent this thing! Oh yeah I should reply to this too shouldn't I? Well basically you've summed up Jibney's mystery into ... another mystery! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome template ==

Quick question: When I use '''<nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''' to greet new users, where does the template come from? Did the change you made to your Welcome template (with the Tour) also affect that tag? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. What you're using is [[Template:welcome]]; I took that and made a personalized version which I keep at [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome]], and that's what I editted. You can do the same if you want; you'd use the same code to implement it, but substitute its location for the word "welcome" (e.g. I type <nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if you think the tour should be added to the main welcome template itself, you could just add it there. If you decide to do that, however, it might be a good idea to announce your intentions on [[Template talk:welcome]] first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think it should be incorporated into [[HRWiki:Introduction]] first, and then the Introduction should be linked in the welcome template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==HTML Romanian codes==
For my own reference, and the curiosity of anyone who happens by, how to create some of the characters in the Romanian alphabet:
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! Upper case
! Lower case
! Upper case encoding
! Lower case encoding
! Notes
|-
| Ă
| ă
| &#258;
| &#259;
|  
|-
| Â
| â
| &#194;
| &#226;
|  
|-
| Î
| î
| &#206;
| &#238;
|  
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ș}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ș}}
| &#536;
| &#537;
| s with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ş
| ş
| &#350;
| &#351;
| s with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ț}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ț}}
| &#538;
| &#539;
| t with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ţ
| ţ
| &#354;
| &#355;
| t with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|}

Are you romanian Abdi? (Or of romanian descent?) My old roommate is Romanian. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope; no connection except that I went there two summers in a row with teams from my church. I tried to pick up a little language, but really had only an ornamental vocabulary (enough to say something in Romanian just so I'd be saying something in Romanian). I got myself into '''BIG''' trouble, evidently, when I tried to order a lemon Fanta (they have different flavors over there, many of which are awesome), and mispronounced the word for lemon. My hosts' eyes got ''really'' big and they turned bright red; when they regained the power of speech all they could manage was "Don't... ever... say that again...." Me: "Why, what? What did I say?" Them: "You... ''{pause}'' you don't want to know." To this day I don't know what word that sounded like!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol! Well if you transliterate (is that a word) what you wrote perhaps I can ask my old roommate this weekend. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The word was (and here I get a chance to use some of those characters above) "lămâjie"; that "a" with a circumflex, as I understood it, was supposed to be something like the "oo" of "wood" but closer to the "ou" of "would," a hint of the "oo" of "boot" creeping in. I way over-emphasized the latter, and then gave the final "e" too much of a Spanish "ey" sound—"luhmooyay." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL i'll see what I can do... I think I have enough to explain to him the word ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::So where your hosts like really mad or were they cracking up? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Either cracking up or kind of embarrassed or both, depending on their personality. (These were teenagers; the 15-yr-old guy thought it was the funniest event of the 21st century, though even he demurred to tell me what it meant; the shy girl looked like she thought it was funny and felt guilty for thinking so.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Not that this really relates to Romanian, although it does relate to language mix-ups and the current season: My favorite mistake in a German essay by an American student was "An Thanksgiving esse ich die Türkei", which means, "On Thanksgiving I eat Turkey" (i.e., the ''country'' of Turkey!) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL; I'm ''sure'' he tries. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ohhh it's possibly slang then. My old roommate moved from there when he was 8 and i don't know if he knows all the slang. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== A wery new electronic reply! ==

'''For Sir Viklas. Hi?'''

'''1. Prehaps! I'm've was to make football often times. Play? Know. Best football results twice again.'''

'''2. Every age I have seen out as a baby. I think I has the solution: width times height.'''

'''3. As a wery old, I can fathom the scene to be with me. Looking always as I ever did. It was not came's. He borrowed mine.'''

'''Okay, Viklas, one would certainly wish that would answer your questions. I do believe that we're on the same page. Unfortunately, yours has a large F on it.'''

'''— Sir Stark Dålig '''

==Marching Bands (not of Manhattan)==

I said "marching bands". Most schools near me have bands, but none I know have marching bands. I live in the same city as TBC. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's reassuring. And frankly, I'd rather they had a sit-down-an'-play-music band than a put-on-a-purple-thing-and-dance-around band. (Or better yet, how about Strings and Choral programs?) But seriously, I'd be very surprised if a city the size of Atlanta didn't have a fair number of HS marching bands. In fact, a cursory Googling reveals that [http://www.marching-band.net/news/ "The Official" Metro Atlanta Battle of the Bands] on Oct. 14, 2004 included bands from the following schools:
::Southwest DeKalb
::Morrow
::Redan
::Westlake
::Columbia
::Towers
::Mays
::Stephenson
::Martin Luther King
::Pebble Brook
::Cedar Grove
::Riverdale
::Lithonia
:However, cross-checking against the [http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/our_schools/schools_list/school_list1.html#high list of Atlanta public high schools] shows only Mays. What's the deal—the others are suburban schools with nice budgets? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woah, there's a actully a real school called Riverdale high? In those old Archie comics he's in riverdale high school, for those of you who don't know. That's awsome! {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 00:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC) PS: For some reason my sig isn't working on this page. Or my new x-mas themed one. Whats happening?
:::Man. Now [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=205706 my] User page is haunted! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Weird, man. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, problem fixed! Curse lifted :p. Binary Searches sure come in handy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::That Stux is a computer genius man! (Let's do a dance for the computer genius man.) Btw (not in the tone of trauma that would continue the quote), what did you do? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well it didn't involve shotguns that's for sure... If you check out this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=prev&oldid=206819 diff] you'll see that there were a few template inclusions that were not closed, making everything be template text. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Dances for the computer genius man* doo-doo! doo-doo! Thank you stux! you rule! Doo-doo!{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lovett and Westminster aren't on there because they're private schools. Fancy-shemancy. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I once again come to you asking for a favor! '''Stop'''

Might I trouble you for a photograph? '''Stop'''

Because you are being inducted into my honorary members gang! '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

'''PS: If possible, please make it a B/W photo. My telegramophone doesn't seem to handle the colored genre oh too well. Regards!'''

:I'd rather not use my real picture, for the same reason that I'd rather not use my real name. Also, I'm not actually Swedish (see [[#Sweden??|conversation above]]). But since I impersonated a Swedish prince on your talk page, I find it only fitting to use an [[Wikipedia:Image:Ducele_de_Halland.jpg|image of one]] to represent me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::I bet you are a hit with the ladies Mr. Swedish Prince. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Woah, that picture totally looks like me! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== GVBAoA ==

[[Image:Pewtervanburen.PNG|right|Pretend its golden, since I'm already pushing the one-personal-image rule.]]
Abdi, you've just earned yourself the '''GVBAoA''': 
'''G'''old 
'''V'''an 
'''B'''uren 
'''A'''award 
'''o'''f 
'''A'''wesomeness 
for helping me get off the ground when I was a newbie, and for being an all around nice person. There are only five in the entire world! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Whoa!! What an honor! I have so many people to thank—I'd like to thank the academy; I'd like to thank The Cheat, for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
==The "Yet another award" award==
:Just kiddin. It's the '''thank you award'''. I present this thank you award to AbdiViklas, <s>Pretty weird person</s> Swedish Prince, for giving me an awesome trophy and for just being cool.
So here you go! Thanks!
:{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC) [[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|Thank You Award givin to '''AbdiViklas''']]
::Presenting: the '''"No, thank ''you''!" award'''! For being an expert trophy-giver and encourager. People who affirm good stuff in others are themselves ''good stuff''. G-E-W-D.
::On an unrelated note: when I hear "Swedish Prince" I can't help imagining a [[Wikipedia:Prince (artist)|guy in a purple suit]] trying to look sultry but failing because his [[Wikipedia:Swedish Chef|eyebrows and mustache entirely obscure his face]]. [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u2/141603.html Oh-oh-oh, the Swedish thing]... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== "wiki is gay"? ==

I'm sorry, I need to ask this question in order to see if this was just an inane dream or a reality - did Homestarrunner.com temporarily put up a message in their updates section (top-right corner of the main pages) saying that "The HRWiki is gay"? Thanks, this is killing me... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 13:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Interesting. No, we don't have any record of that happening. Who did you hear that one from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::TBC like us. We're cool. Most of us seem to like members of the opposite gender...so there. **sticks out tongue and gives a rasbery** {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that sounds something more like what Matt Wilson would do... He doesn't like his cartoon's wiki much, and has put things like "the wiki is creepy" in the credits occasionally, and even openly mocked them with a "Bonus Stage Wiki Guy" character in a recent toon. But the Brothers Chaps love us. They sent Joey sketches and stuff. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Who's Matt Wilson, and what cartoon does he make? He sounds like a not-so-nice person. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Matt Wilson writes the [[Wikipedia:Bonus Stage|Bonus Stage]] webtoons. He doesn't think much of his fans, I think, the wiki in particular. But the cartoons rock. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Like I said, I think I was — literally — dreaming. I was up really late last night. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::...which reminds me that I really spend too much time on the computer. Dreaming about the internet, wow... :/ {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL—yes, that is a warning sign. (I can just imagine Gafaddict doing couch mumbling: "Mbl... hammminbble... Edit conflict...".) Seriously, not only do TBC like the wiki, their record is notably free from the use of "gay" as a generic negative. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, me i've be doing great, can i ask you some questions:

1.whats your favourite toon?

2.whats your favourite character?

3.how did you find Homestar runner?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Two of those are tough. (One's easy; the answer to #3 is on [[User:AbdiViklas#Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction|my user page]].) For favorite 'toon, I'll have to limit it to sbemails to make it easier. In that case, the three that I ''enjoy'' the most are [[funny]], [[caffeine]], and [[your friends]]. I can't decide exactly what the order should be. I feel a little guiltily lowbrow for enjoying so much the ones that are just straight-up, slapstick, audiovisual gags; I ''appreciate'' the ones that are "clever" too, but I can't help just laughing at loud at these.
:For favorite character: also tough. Of course I like 'em all, for the appropriate reasons. (Strong Bad because he's... Strong Bad; Strong Sad for his good taste in literature, music, art, and intellectual culture; Homestar for his heartwarming naïveté; etc.) If I have to pick a major character, I'll go with The Cheat; I just bought one of the The Cheat t-shirts while they were on sale, and it's the first t-shirt I've bought. But if we're including minor characters, I think What's Her Face is pretty cool, as I once [[Talk:What's Her Face|observed]] in a characteristically wordy post. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[Talk:What%27s_Her_Face#From_the_Paper_.22Teen_Girl_Squad:_Class_Stratification_and_the_Role_of_Otherness_Within_A_Multi-teen_Peer_Group_Dynamic.22|''No wonder'']] you didn't post the entire link that discussion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That and the fact that my comment was in response to some above that heading. (By the way, that heading was [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]]'s doing; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=151263&oldid=151256 originally] I hadn't started a new section.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=next&oldid=151263 see].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

== Louisiana residents ==

AbdiViklas: I noticed that you reverted my edit on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/weird dream#Louisiana lingerie?|this page]], which was a removal of the phrase "it could even be a jab at the relative intelligence of Louisiana residents." Let me make the case for my removal, and then I'll let you do with that information as you see fit.

I'm not aware of a stereotype that Louisiana residents are unintelligent. I ''am'' aware of a false stereotype that people living in the South are "slow." I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. In this case, I have little confidence that TBC would propogate this bias--they are from Georgia, about as South as you can get. (I also have difficulty seeing the connection between askew undergarments and intelligence, although one could argue this point.)

So, I removed your comment because I saw no need to perpetuate an insulting stereotype, especially one which residents of Georgia would be unlikely to defend. I trust that you'll take these comments as what they're intended to be--an explanation of my position--and not a personal attack. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your tact! I live in NC myself, so I certainly don't subscribe to the "dumb Southerner" concept (and am concerned about research showing employer bias against Southern accents!). I offerred the comment as illustration that the Easter egg could have meant something other Mardi Gras. In fact, my first thought when watching it, since I didn't make the Mardi Gras connection, was "Ha ha, that one couldn't even figure out how to put it on!" True, Louisiana isn't the butt of such jokes so much as Arkansas; it was jokes like the [http://www.joke-archives.com/youmaybe/arkansasreadingtest.html Arkansas reading test] that I was thinking of. (And I've heard that one ''from'' Southerners, in NC!) I'm not so sure TBC have qualms about perpetuating insulting stereotypes, either; I find it hard to watch Li'l Brudder in light of the physically impaired. (But yes, to their credit, they steer mostly clear of shock humor and using touchy subjects for cheap laughs.)
:As for removing the comment, I just reverted because I thought it was generally frowned upon to edit other people's comments in STUFF or talk pages. (I mean, I once deleted one when someone used a homosexual slur, but for anything less extreme I try to let it stand.) In light of your argument that acknowledging a harmful stereotype reinforces it, though, you can consider it ''my'' deletion!
:Thanks for responding in such a diplomatic and well-explained way! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, thanks for the cheerful reply; I probably made a mountain out of a molehill anyway (it's only a STUFF page, after all). I'll keep your comments in mind before editing arguments in the future. Have a great week, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== greetings from Nikolce Kocovski (plus homeschooling) ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing fantastic. anyway onto business:
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you ever had a bulling problem in school?
#what have been up to recently?
yours truly [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey Nik!
:#I think I'd noticed [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] a couple of times on recent changes, but I hadn't looked up his user page until you asked. I wonder how his Elvis impersonation is? I hope it's better than the one on [http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/01-1.html this] page (see the entry for Jan. 8)!
:#I was [[Wikipedia:Homeschooling|homeschooled]] from 2nd grade through high school, so I certainly didn't have as many problems with bullying as most students, but even so I had some. Interestingly, one of the guys who used to tease me in really painful ways eventually (like within the same year) realized that he really was hurting me, apologized, and started being nicer. I think he wasn't really so much a true bully; he just thought he was being funny (while I didn't). These days, as a teacher, I'm more concerned with trying to prevent bullying for my students. It's really a serious problem; in the U.S. 75% report being bullied at some point, which means not only are they being denied a fundamental human right, but their education and development are being affected. I'm not sure how much I can do as a teacher to really change bullying, but I intend at least not to be unaware of it or (worse) ignore it.
:#Recently I've been doing a bunch of homework for finals in my university courses. Also I've been visiting a high school where I've been practicing conducting the orchestra in [[Wikipedia:Arcangelo Corelli|Corelli]]'s ''Christmas Concerto'', which has been a lot of fun. Conducting Baroque music has an effect on me sort of like "runner's high"; by the end of the rehearsal I'm a little giddy. Their concert is Tuesday. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I had no idea you were once a homeschooler! So was I from K-12. I'm still very glad of it and quite appreciative of the sacrifices my dear mother made to teach me (especially since I was sometimes grotesquely lazy). Anyway, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup. From about halfway through 2nd grade, when my Mom pulled me out because I was having serious problems. I was ADD (not hyperactive) before it had really become well-known, and my teacher couldn't understand why I wasn't getting my worksheets ''{sneer expressing intense teacherly contempt for worksheets}'' done without supervision. Plus I was a real troublemaker, having problems "keeping my hands to myself" (less from agression than from a confusion about the fact that tripping others or swinging my lunchbox into them was not as funny for them as for me). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Not that it's much to add, but my ex was homeschooled. I think kids can benefit more through homeschooling. If I have kids, I'd like them to be homeschool as much as possible too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Let me hasten to say that, as somebody about to be employed by it, I'm definitely not anti-public-education-system. The pros and cons of homeschooling versus public would have to do largely with what you felt the purpose of school was. If you adhered to a very traditional understanding of education in which "knowledge" meant a canon of factual information to be "uploaded" from written curricula and direct instruction into students' minds—in which "school" was primarily about the stuff it seems, on the surface, to be about (Reading 'n' Riting 'n' 'Rithmetic, etc.)—then yeah, that can be more efficiently accomplished through 1-on-1 instruction. But if you define "knowledge" as socially created, i.e. understanding is best achieved by experiencing something rather than hearing about it, and the transfer of experiential understandings through group work is not simply a side effect of schooling but an asset; if you think that what school is there to provide is not simply the official curriculum but the hidden curricula of social interaction and societal structures, and especially if you place a priority on exposing your child to other socioeconomic groups and cultures, then public school becomes desirable. (Although, contrary to popular opinion, homeschooling isn't typically insular; I had just as much contact with peers via co-opped classes and extracurricular clubs as most public schoolers. It would still be possible to achieve all the benefits above, though in my experience you might have to look outside the homeschooling community for meaningful interaction with other cultures.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:I seem to be a bit late to this conversation, but I just figured I'd also meantion I was homeschooled from grade 2 onward as well. I switched when we moved way up country to Quesnel, and when we moved back south I never went back. I liked it, especially since it's so flexible. A bit ''too'' flexible sometimes too, it is somewhat dificult to stay on schedule. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

::I too, am late in responding, but I will anyway. Yes, I, too, occasionally found it too flexible. My mother can tell many a story of my dreadful procrastination. It still bites me occasionally, but I think I've mostly outgrown that bad habit now. (Of course, finding the Wiki has done nothing to improve my habits in that area...) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, hehe. Perhaps my earlier Wikiing is partly responsible for the remarkable intensity of my finals-period workload, which is why I haven't been on her much in a couple of weeks. Anydangways... I'm back! Missed y'all. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I am updating my Honorary Gang Members electronic page and I need the following information. '''Stop'''

What rank would you consider yourself in my gang? '''Stop'''

For example, I am the '''"Brains"'''. '''Stop'''

The Sneak is '''"The Thief"'''. '''Stop'''

And The Strong Man is '''"The Brawn"'''. '''Stop'''

Please try not to use any of those ranks. '''Stop'''

Please respond on my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:Gee, I'm not sure, S.S. Bad. I think I need to rewatch Ocean's 11 for ideas. I'll get back to you, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Official "You're Back!" Greetings ==

Hey, what can we say but that we missed you? I constantly kept thinking "Gee, where's Abdi and his amazing replies an' such?" I even tried to fill your niche whilst you were gone (check my contributions. There's at least one marked "An Abdi-worthy reply"), but to no avail. So now we won't be too bored, with so many other people leaving the wiki for the hols. Glad to have ya back, Abdi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:<s>Oh? You were gone?</s> Er... I mean... glad to have you back too! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I noticed you'd been a bit scarce around here. I figured it was school-related. I've been done for over a week now. I'm in Oregon visiting family and friends for Christmas, but I'm still definitely present on the Wiki. So don't worry, either you or DorianGray, I'll be there like shareware. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Glad to have you back, man! And I also rememebred you. See my reply over [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17#Is_it_cardboard.2C_or_is_it_feedback.3F|TB's talk]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
You guys are so nice! So—yeah... guess that was kind of a false alarm, what with not visiting for another week. As you guessed, H.L., my absence up until about the 22nd was school-related, but absence since then was spending-Christmas-with-the-family-related. To be more specific, sitting-around-in-pajamas-eating-chocolate-and-drinking-hot-cider-and-egg-nog-alternately-for-three-days-straight-related. We punctuated the festive lethargy with trips to Narnia and King Kong, which were both just great, in their (very different) ways. Next up: Pride & Prejudice (yes, there ''are'' men who dig it), Harry Potter, The Producers, maybe some Memoirs of a Geisha, and all those things from a while ago like Crash or Zorro that I haven't seen yet. Whew! The worload!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic crisis! ==

Dear, Sir Viklas '''Stop'''

I apologize for being absent for a while. '''Stop'''

The Decemberween season keeps me busy even in the past! '''Stop'''

It is a delight to recollect with the gang during this glorious season! '''Stop'''

However our joyous gatherings may have to end shortly. '''Stop'''

For a complaint has been presented to my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Please refer to my talk page and view the complaint from Sir Dot Com. '''Stop'''

If you all agree to the idea he has proposed then the gang may live for another day! '''Stop'''

I thank you all in the most gracious manner and bid you a very merry Decemberween season! '''Stop'''

Sincerely,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:See [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images]] for more info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing great. i just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thank you for your kind messages, you've helped me quite a bit. We friends right?

merry christmas [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:04, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:Course we friends, foo! You're my only Macedonian Aussie friend; those are hard to come by! Seriously, I'm really happy that you've stayed involved in the wiki, and I admire the fact that you keep asking about things and improving your wiki skills. Thanks for saying hi for the holidays; it's a little late to return the Merry Christmas, but I hope you have a great New Year's! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Happy new year ==

Happy new year and a enjoyable year for you, see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings from M.J ==
Uh, Hi, you may not remember me but I was a long term member of the hrwiki and then got locked out with the changing of sites and re-registering and the no-annonymous-users-can-edit situation.
''{takes breath}'' anyhoo I'm back and I wanted to thank you for your support, I was going to give up on the hrwiki and never return until I got your message on my livejournal account a while back urging me to keep battling on. So Thanks! I'll show myself out -[[User:MJ|MJ]]

== thanks, abdi ==
thanks for reducing the exc. points on my guestbook. ciberdude also seems to have accidently added four 4's instead of three on his signature. that man does not know what he is doing. just like you did to me, i hope we can somehow teach him to be more familiar with the wiki. thanks to you, i'm joining the welcoming commitee. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::''{note: This edit and its reply were made after the entries below them}'' for the record i '''do''' know what i am doing. i used to be a nerd, fixing trolling, reverting stupid ideas, but then when i tried to add to the [[www.hrwiki.org|wiki]] i kept getting reverted on all the references and goofs. so i thought that the wiki must not like too streached references and i started deleting stuff but that went down hill when thise edit got reverted so i realized that all of you are exactally the kind of person [[Strong Bad|SB]] would hate. so i decided to troll and troll and troll and troll and troll [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Wow. Um, I assume you changed your mind again. But yeah, the experience you mentioned (getting reverted at first) is so common I put some stuff into my [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome|welcome template]] about it. It's tough, because everybody makes an attachment, however little, between their edits and themselves; praise for their edits is praise for them and an abrupt and ignominious death for their edits is felt personally too. And yeah, you woudn't be the first who's responded to that injury by trolling. But as I'm sure you've experienced, all that reverting at the beginning is really just the result of the wiki learning curve; like people make edits that don't match the standards or that say something that was already said elsewhere. So anyway, I hope you're finding it a little less frustrating now being "the kind of person SB would hate." (Actually, seriously, I don't think he would; he's a pretty big grammar nerd himself. But yes, the kind of personality that makes the wiki work is closer to Adrian Monk's [[Wikipedia:Obsessive-compulsive disorder|OCD]] than Strong Bad's "whatever"-ness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:''{responding to Seriously again}'' Don't mention it. And thanks for your response patching things up with Ciberdude (though I took the liberty of moving it from ''User talk:Ciberdude'' to [[User talk:Ciberdude444]]). There are some unfortunate examples on the wiki of users who are still pissed at each other and seriously make life rough; there are also ''daily'' examples of people who might have reason to be offended with each other shrugging it off and being generous about it. I encourage you to keep doing that—and not just making it so relationships with other users are "okay," but actually actively trying to improve them (i.e. calling them on it when they make a really good edit, or just making them feel good in whatever way you can). It's not just some Hallmark-Care-Bears conspiracy to make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy; it actually makes for a better website (and ultimately better people in real life!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. In other words, easy with comments like "doesn't know what he is doing." Yeah, literally, we're all learning more about how this wiki thing works every day (like just a minute ago I learned how to resize an image!). But be careful not to be insulting. (Also, I don't think there's any clue about Ciberdude's gender; assuming all online types are male can be dangerous!) Unrelatedly, cool that you're joining the welcoming committee! It's a great feeling when you get to welcome someone (though you have to have a fast trigger finger around here; the past few days I've seen, like, six new users get welcomed by other folks before I had a chance!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

nice. real nice. "quick! the carebears are coming! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
anyway, i don't even know your gender, so i can't say anyting. i'm pretty sure thunderbird is a guy, but i'll have to look into it. i'm guessing......your......a......guy? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. (Come to think of it, I guess my user page, while it tells ''everything'' else about me, doesn't mention that!) I was thinking of users like [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] who often get assumed to be guys. (And Soylent Green is a hilarious movie.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

true dat. in fact, double true.
if you know what snl skit double true is from, you get a gold star. hint: it's new. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ironically, although I ''know'' about the Chroni(what?)cles of Narnia, I haven't seen it yet. (The rap, I mean; the movie was great.) I'm-a go see if I can hunt down a copy hosted by a site my filter won't block. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
youtube.com
:Yeah, that didn't work for me, but I found one that did. Dang; now I want a cupcake! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
two. no six. no twelve. BAKER'S DOZEN!!

dude, is that not the funniest thing you have ever seen? i watch it all the time. in fact, i'ma go watch it right now. see ya. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 22:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, that was up there with the Cowbell. I think the NY Times (or was it Slate?) was right; what makes it funny isn't just that their whiteness but the extraordinary harmlessness and yuppiness of their subject matter. I'm reminded of Weird Al's ''It's All About the Pentiums''. ("I'm the king of the spreadsheets / got 'em printed out all over my bedsheets...") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

due, seriously. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==ciberdude444's at it ==
abdi, ciberdude444 has once again reverted my comment on the guestbook. i said it was okay, but i didn't think it would be like this. i don't want to edit something on his userpage, and i doubt he will listen to me. i will try anyway, but i need your help.
:Meh; it doesn't seem to me like it matters a ton either way. The question is who gets "custody"; whether you can't edit because it's his userpage or he can't edit because it's your comment. There's no official rule about it, but it seems like nobody should have to live with stuff on their userpage they don't want, or with their edits misrepresented. I think I'll revert it to your signature alone, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a really big deal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, ab! abdi! abdivi! abdiviklas! yeah, i just don't like that stuff. it's a tender relationship, we don't him to put stuff that i would assume offensive and start another argument. i just want to take things carefully. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::who needs grammar lessons now? "we don't him to put stuff " whats that suposed to mean?
:Cool. Also, with regard to the age thing, maybe the best thing you could do would be to take your real name off your page. Zillions of people could be your age, but you'd be ''amazed'' how easy it is to trace a person from their name. (In my city, at least, if you've ever voted, the info on how you're registered and your voting history, plus address, is right there on the web for free!) I've got my age on mine but don't give out my name or anything else very personally identifiable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== what do you like mostly about homestar runner? ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been i've been doing great, the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Man... actually, that's a really tough one to answer. Why ''do'' we—or I, at least—like H*R so much? I think it has a lot to do with the form it's in—relatively short cartoons updated roughly weekly for free, and all accessible at any time. I mean, let's face it; it has nowhere near the same number of laughs-per-week as, say, Simpsons or Futurama, but if H*R were on TV it would mean it would come in 30' chunks instead of 6' max, and (Tivo aside) you could only get to it at specific times, one 'toon at a time. The best time of my life was when I was watching the Strong Bad Emails for the first time, and was spending days at a time just watching them back-to-back chronologically; I think they're actually funnier that way.
:But I haven't ''really'' answered your question. What ''element'' of H*R do I like best? Well... I dunno. Do I like the randomness of its humor, or its relevence (via the "pop culture, mumble grumble" references)? Do I appreciate more its PG rating or the frequent ways it pushes that envelope (which, frankly, are funnier because they're so unexpected than the reliable shock-humor of Family Guy and related shows)? Do I enjoy Strong Bad's wittiness or Homestar's naivete (or Marzipan's activism or Strong Sad's misunderstood artistic sensibilities)? Can't say. I guess it's '''D''', all of the above!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

i kinda agree with you, the reason i like homestar runner the best on the internet, for its humour, the way it uses pop culture like simpsons a bit, and the characters. but the reason why i like it is:'

because it acts like a cartoon. i'll explain:

you see most of the things you find on the internet are either horrible violent with lots of swearing or lots of adult content. but homestar runner is nothing like it. Do you understand?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ps: i do aslo enjoy sb emails long or short toons, the characters etc.

==welcoming==
can i join the welcoming comitte? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 17:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sure! Check out [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]]; it's got all the details on how to do so. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, that kind of proves my point. ==

''"sorry, rv; "hypocrisy" seems to me to have inaccurate connotations. He doesn't *give* a darn, really, whether "jillion" is a real word."''

The fact that he doesn't give a darn is kind of the point. He holds everyone else up to quite lofty standards of perfect spelling and grammar but doesn't do the same. That is the definition of hypocrisy and being a hypocrit. "Do as I say and not as I do." -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see what you mean. But see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Strong_Bad&curid=818&diff=230061&oldid=230056&rcid=174751 reply just now] on [[Talk:Strong Bad]], disagreeing somewhat with that definition of hypocrisy. The definition you offer is certainly a common one, but I feel it's a misuse of the word. "Inconsistency" might be better. I also reverted partly because I just felt like, by itself, it wasn't that remarkable; now, if a page gets made, that would be a reason to have a remark saying something like "this is another instance of '''Strong Bad's Usage Errors'''" or the like. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== An electronic GIF! ==

Dear Sir Viklas, '''Stop'''

Please view the brand new symbol-ma-drawin' I have crafted on my electronic user page! '''Stop'''

Has fun! '''Stop'''

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== Manual of Style ==

Actually, I ''just'' added that rule (and it was because I saw the stripèd discussion, though I'd been considering it for a while), but it actually works in your favor if you count the fact that (a sentence prior) Strong Bad actually ''did'' write "striped" while pronouncing it "stripèd". Thus, this one can go either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the Appetizers/Appe-teasers example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that was actually a bad example (as "Appe'teasers'" is written in the 'toon in question in an Easter Egg, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].) But, if we were to assume that nothing was written, then you'd still want to write "Appe-teasers" because that's what was said. There are better examples out there, though... most of what Coach Z says, for instance. That was just the first thing to cross my mind. This has been the unofficial consensus for a while, actually; I was just trying to make it official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. We've got a lot of back-revising to do on it, then. But maybe before we do, at least with regard to the aspiration-of-"-ed"-suffixes issue, see my hesitance I just added to [[Talk:highschool#Accent on striped]]. I agree that using the diacritical is preferable to "stripe-ed", but—I can't get over it's funnylookiness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::One more question: What's an example of a mispronounced word where the phonetic spelling is identical to the standard spelling? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just thinking hypothetically, maybe something like pronouncing "bomb" with the final ''b'' aspirated, but not enough to transcribe as "bombuh". You'd have to add a note. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Colonel" is a good one. Currently, it's written as such on every relevant page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, now I understand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Sorry. You must be talking about my first upload. Right after I saw it had no copright notice, I went to fix it. I did so for the other 3. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:Also, will you check to see if this is ok? [[Characters#Other_Alternates]]. The teen versions. Thanks. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Looks okay to me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Edit conflicts ==

Hey there, Dr. AdbiViklas. I'm totally cool with you giving 24.239.109.228 [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:24.239.109.228&diff=prev&oldid=239289 extra instruction], but I just want to point out that noting an edit conflict is completely unnecessary in this case. In fact, most times, noting edit conflicts are unnecessary. Crapfully crap, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; I know that the general rule is "if your comment would still make sense in the flow of the page don't note it"; in this case I did note it because otherwise there wasn't much explanation for my commenting at all! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it looks unprofessional to have a note up there. You can easily reword the message and have it flow. I would agree with it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::That makes sense; I did so and also added a bit about the turn he took. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Heh. You're awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::LOL; on the wiki I seem to be permanently in schoolteacher mode, in which first-time vandals are suspendees and potential dropouts. (The alarming thing that just kind of clicked for me recently is that these users ''are'' in fact real people, and their interaction with this wiki is a window of opportunity to teach them about how to interract with others. (Yes yes, and about H*R!) That's why, although the squabbles and typos of middle-school users take up time and energy, I'm glad we have them. The whole Seriously/Totebag/Ciberdude deal is a chance for three guys either to learn that nothing's fair, no one in authority cares, and name-calling and petty revenge get results, or to learn that co-operation and community are more than smarmy buzzwords and are actually realisable and effective. Then, realizing that two of those go to the same school: what could be the exponential impact of two kids who actually believed that?) So even though chances are good he'll never come back, and even though it was kind of silly of me to do so, that's why I left that for him; I daydream that maybe he's at a formative moment in his life and the wiki could tip the balance between a life of crime and a career as a school counselor or a Doctor Without Borders or some such. It sounds cheesy, but... maybe it's not too great an exaggeration! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I just read all of that. I should print that out and save it for posterity. ''print_of_it.exe''. I don't find it silly. That's the perfect way you should treat someone like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, I added another note on the the IP user talk page noting that the article talk page (rather than STUFF) would be the best place to discuss the change he wanted to make. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::P.S. I was edit-conflicted on this edit. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::::LOL; thanks both of you. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Incidentally, what do you mean "three guys [are] either to learn that nothing's fair [and that] no one in authority cares"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think anyone's going to learn that around here! I just mean that's the burden of responsibility on us. If this place had the atmosphere that a lot of fansites and online communities in general did... well, events wouldn't have played out the way they ''did''. I leave it to your imaginations to conjecture what would have happened (hint: the ''Lord of the Flies'' allusion might not be too far off!). And from a teacher point of view, that ''is'' a lesson kids get in school far too often ("nobody cares", plus they have no agency so why bother). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I ask because my goal as an admin is to always be fair. I sincerely hope that I am not playing favorites with any one of them, instead treating them based on their actions and by the way they respond to instructions. So long as they stop squabbling, I'm willing to leave the past in the past, but if they insist on bickering, a certain train is going to be dropped. I like to think I have a good bit of patience, but I admit it's wearing quite thin. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's dot com, you ''define'' fair administration!! Yeah, of course any of the involved parties would bring that accusation (which is explained partly by adolescent developmental psych, a time when you're trying to figure out exactly what your standing in relation to others is), but I'm a witness on this one at least. As far as patience goes, that's one thing that makes me think I might make a good teacher, since I seem to have an unusually high frustration threshhold. But even I've reached it a couple of times just in the past few months of rehearsing unruly orchestras! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== im back! ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i;ve been doing great becasue i was on a 10 day holiday to the gold coast with my family. on the 5/1/06. fantastic. so whats been going on, with you?

Ps:WHats happended to bubsty, when i checked bubsty's user page, all that was written was bye wiki, whats happened?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right—very sad: evidently he's had to quit the wiki for some reason. See his talk page for many expressions of grief at his leaving, several quite eloquent. (I know you ''have'' seen it because you signed it, but I mean higher up.)
:I'm glad you had a nice vacation; it's summer for you, right? I'm in North Carolina, which is kinda southern US, and we've been having a really warm January anyway; last week it was 68° (Farenheit). But tonight it's back below freezing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== looking for an explanation ==

Why did you add the definition for decoupage to "Death Metal"'s "Explanation" section? I realize it starts with "de" and has something to do with glue. Those do not seem like enough to bother including the word in the email's wiki page.
--[[User:209.157.156.126|209.157.156.126]] 10:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; not just those, but because of Taranchula's video (some helpful anonymous IP has just now added the lyrics), ''The Decoupage''. Yeah, if it weren't for that, it would be a seriously unnecessary fact! (By the way, speaking of helpful anonymous IPs, your interest in the accuracy of the article and the fact that you knew and bothered to sign your post are a little unusual in anonymous users; have you ever considered [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|becoming a member]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey sir ==

Thanks about the poster thing. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fractured discussion ==

Hey there. One of the problems with such a multifaceted discussion is that the replies can get a little (or a lot) scattered. So I just wanted to let you know that I have replied to no fewer times than to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Other|your proposal]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Move_existing_ones_to_subpages_and_lock_them|your question here]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Comments|your comments here]], and also [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Oppose|that big long thread]] with Darth Katana X. I would read them all first before replying, as they kinda form one big thought. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

==''thanks, abdi'' 2: Son of ''[[#thanks, abdi|thanks, abdi]]''==
well, thanks to you and dot com, i now have a username. thanks a lot, i will join a lot of commitees. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

by the way, when i was an anonymous user, you said something about how if i am who you think i am, it's important that i take the plunge. i have a brother who is a wiki user, but i am on my own laptop, so it's not like you could match the ip addresses if you thought i was him. so........just who do you think i am? [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:The combination of the fact that you commented on [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]'s talk page and mentioned that someone you knew got blocked suggested that you might know either him or a couple of other users that he had some interaction with. Plus you now say on your user page that he's your brother. If I'm not mistaken, your brother's blockedness is up today or tomorrow; a couple of edits you made to his user page got reverted because we don't really let people (even siblings) edit each others' pages, but he can do them himself then. If he doesn't, bug him to; we have quite a few users who started out getting temporarily blocked and ended up as major contributors (I seem to remember there's some sysop with that story, though I can't find who it is at the moment). I hope your brother and another user who got blocked at the same time do exactly that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is the name you're looking for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks; that was my hunch, but I couldn't verify it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::yeah, now i am unblocked, and i feel great about it. by the way, no, i didn't tell him to do those edits (although he said i did) and he really won't be on that much anymore. this website is too cool for him. plus, he said he just wanted to try it out, y'know? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

wait, why did you change the headline to a familiar joke that's on the tip of my tongue? well, you are a teacher, and i am a caps-hating 11 year old with poor grammar (but good spelling!), so you would know it better than i would. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=246006&oldid=246003 LOL]! Perhaps this might be a sign of archival necessities. Even I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=prev&oldid=218187 have been asked] to archive... and you're at 70! :) Welcome to the wiki [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] and [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]!! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yeltensic&diff=246355&oldid=246350 seriously].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you, stux, but i have been on the wiki since nov. 8. and thank you for the backup on that comment. i just think it should be reworded. also, sice the guestbooks are going soon, please sign mine. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

oh, wait. you already have. thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Lol. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::yeah, if ever evidence that i was an idiot, that was it. ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad you're back, Will; I meant what I said above (and mean it for Ciberdude as well). In answer to your question, I realized that the section heading your brother used originally was the exact same you had used higher on the page, and it confused the browser when it tried to jump to the section. I'm not sure what exactly I'm referencing with the "Son of", other than the stereotypical 30s-monster-movie sequels that get referenced all the time (''Son of Dracula! · Bride of Frankenstein! · Second Cousin Once Removed of Wolfman!''). At least I didn't say ''Electric Boogaloo''. And as for archiving, Stux, despite the recent caving of a prominent holdout, I'm being obstinate. I don't see a particular need to yet, especially since I just recently discovered that ctrl+home and ctrl+end jump to the top or bottom of a page instantly! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I hate to break it to you (ok not really) but lemme tell you a little secret... for web pages, Home and End works just as well! ;) Well, the ball is rollin', I'm sure that circumstances (and pressures ;)) will chage... :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== (Not so) random encouragement for your recent efforts ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've been incredibly busy (like to the point of consecutive all-nighters) for the past week, so I just dropped in and don't know how much I might have missed (though I'm piecing together a picture that involves iPods, sockpuppets, Animal Crossing, and the like. I'm probably going to be similarly sparse for the next week; I don't count on sleeping tonight, anyway! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey there, hope all's going well for you. We miss you when you're not around. I should probably be pulling all-nighters too (and not all-nighter troll fights, like I did Saturday), with the work I have to do. But I'm not. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um, I have 8 words for you: Wow! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ok now that I've made my obligatory short random message, on to the real random message. But i don't have much time to talk so I'll try to be briefer than brief. By um, our standards :). Excellent points on the [[HRWiki_talk:Guestbooks]] article! I like the ideas, though right now I don't have the time nor the imagination to be that creative. Still, I like it. I brings hope in a otherwise tense and (not) hopeless situation. I brings an alternative to a post guestbook-alyptic world. It's the feel good movie -- er I'm getting carried away. But seriously, what I'm trying to say is this: to me there seemed there was much tension that arose with the guestbook situation (and certain events didn't help things), more so than with most issues. Your options and optimism, I think, will help ease those fears and tensions in some of our users. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==We Are The Wiki==
''This is an expansion of an idea from [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities]].'' 
     The recent [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]] phenomenon brought into discussion a tension that has been around for a while. Specifically, many who supported guestbooks felt that HRWiki is, or should be, a place for H*R fans to interact. Others pointed out that it is a "knowledge base," and that its activity should be limited to the upkeep of its content, and pure socializing done in other venues such as the forum. "I'm ... hesitant" about my own position on this issue, and the wording I used in the "Guestbook replacement" suggestions reflects a hope that the wiki's fun (maybe even frivolous?) functions and its documentary function are not mutually exclusive. 
     The fact is, though, some of my suggestions (based on current user practices) toy with a fine and elusive line in [[HRWiki:User space]]. My suggestions included saying hi to other users on their talk pages and featuring content on your user page that provokes responses on your talk page. Now a few quotes from [[HRWiki:User space]] include (emphasis added):
*''Your user talk page is for other users to discuss matters ''related to the Wiki'' with you.
*''Generally, you should avoid any ''substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki''. Examples include ... ''discussion not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki'' ... excessive personal information ... opinion pieces not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki or other non-encyclopedic material...''
     By a strict reading, this could be taken to mean that ''any'' discussion on a Talk page or a User talk page that is not ''directly'' related to a matter of editing is in noncompliance. I'm not going to take the trouble or embarrassment of linking to examples, but I suspect every user here has at some time been party to a discussion that had nothing immediately to do with H*R or the wiki. However, there are several (intentionally) vaguely-defined phrases in there: Just how much is "substantial content"? How much personal information is "excessive"? How much opinion constitutes a "piece"? But the Great Loophole is this line:
*''Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.''
     This, dear friends, is the text of my sermon today. This line expresses—guardedly and with many qualifications—a recognition that certain "not strictly 'on-topic'" behaviors may in fact be not simply permissible but indirectly beneficial. It does not go on to specify what these behaviors "at their worst" might do, but recent events certainly helped us imagine. So it is with great care, my brothers, yea with gravity and trepidation, that we invoke this clause. It is not intended to justify chaos, or to effortlessly nullify the injunctions above it. Yet invoke it I must, and I do so with sobriety and deference. 
     'Nuff preacher-talk. So: what is this clause? Is it a contradiction? Is it a weak concession to the fact that we all chat a little here and there, and it doesn't seem to be killing us? What about that last sentence: "At their best, such activities help us build the community, and this helps us to build the knowledge-base." Do you really believe that, or is it just a pleasant fiction softened by euphemism? What ''is'' this "community" of which we speak so often? 
     (Now, a disclaimer: I don't know a lot about "Wiki" philosophy overall; I've never been involved with Wikipedia and know little of its ideological history. When I say "wiki" I'm speaking specifically of HRWiki, and what I've observed here.) But I'll tell you what I've seen: I've seen people on the Eastern seaboard, the Pacific coast, Texas, Canada, Israel, Australia-by-way-of-Macedonia, and everywhere in between talking, collaborating, and knowing each other's "names" and personalities, not just demographics. I've seen users genuinely broken up over the "departure" of people they've never seen or shaken hands with—which would be odd behavior for a group of cyber-librarians who just happen to be simultaneously working on a database. I've seen users respond to vandal attacks, some of them massive, not with a language of personal injury ("Oh no, what'll ''I'' do?" "Look at all this I've got to revert!"), but calling each other by name and encouraging each other. I've seen users take great pride in their personal contributions, presumably experiencing the joy of accomplishment and becoming incrementally better defended against the paralysis of percieved incompetence. I've seen users engage in heated—often turbulent—disagreement, and learn, albeit by trial and error, how to do so in a civil, productive, and charitable way. 
     Let's step back for a sec. What are you doing? You're sitting on your butt looking at a computer—which is displaying an "opinion piece" about a wiki—which attempts to chronicle and analyze every minutest detail of an internet cartoon—which itself consists of some eccentric and anatomically deficient characters saying a few minutes of funny things on roughly a weekly basis. Is this feeding children in Africa? Is it curing cancer? Is it impacting the policies and actions of national or local governments? Well—hold that thought. My point is: '''what is the ultimate purpose of this wiki?''' Yes, recent discussions have precipitated a restatement that its primary purpose, it's ''raison d'etre'', is to be a knowledge base, documenting H*R cartoons. But its primary purpose does not disallow secondary purposes, and I see its potential for teaching "community" to be a compelling one. If, through this wiki, even one person learns how to work collaboratively with others, to encourage each other's efforts, and above all how do disagree with someone and debate that opinion in an open, respectful, and supportive way, ''and'' if these lessons transfer over into real life, then something much greater has happened than simply transcribing a web cartoon. And it ''could'' very well impact the society and governance of neighborhoods and nations. 
     This brings me to the title of this section. '''We are the wiki.''' The wiki is binary data on a server, yes, but without us it would be static. Furthermore, because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=157523&oldid=157522 the wiki is a liquid], it assumes the contour of its container, the users. If we were replaced with a different set of users, the wiki would become fundamentally different. A gardening model is not adequate for the wiki—we are not groundskeepers, who come in and work on "the wiki"; we ''are'' an integral and vital part of it. If there is an analogy, maybe we're like a good sports play—ahem, sports ''team'': the members of a baseball team all work together on something (the game), but if they all got up and left "the game" wouldn't remain (just a stadium full of very surprised fans). You see what this means? Nearly every user here expresses some desire to "help the wiki," "maintain the wiki," or otherwise contribute to its upkeep and improvement. The most immediate way to do that, certainly, is to edit mainspace articles. But tending to relationships with other users—cultivating them, pruning them, mediating them, and healing them—is every bit as much a way of improving the wiki. 
     On the flipside, that's what's so terrible about [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|true trolls]] (as opposed to vandals): Just as vandals attack the digital, visible fabric of the wiki, trolls attack the relational, social fabric of it. A vandal simply aspires to scrawl a few lines of graffiti; a troll aspires to tear ''us'' apart. Which is more insidiously devestating? A vandal can be reverted and blocked in seconds. The damage of trolling, if accomplished, is far harder to repair. So if you consider yourself a "troll fighter," take a deep breath and a look in the mirror before replying hastily to another user: when you damage a relationship, ''you'' are the troll. And keep in mind that, unlike the many defensive tools we have against vandalism, our ''only'' defense against this vulnerability is the intentional, calculating, untiring maintenance of our "community" ties—in other words, working specifically on "being friends." 
     This is where the last phrase of that Loophole gets its justification. "Building the community" does ''indeed'' "help to build the knowledge base." It defends and perpetuates it, and gives it a greater excuse for existing than the Flash-based antics of an Internet phenomenon. And for that reason there ''is'' an excuse for User talk content to go beyond "What's up with this edit?" and "Please delete a personal pic." ''As long as'' the activity is kept within reasonable bounds, and does ''not'' in fact impede the wiki's primary functioning—and ''if'' it is ''meaningfully effective'' at building relatinships—then it is not simply irrelevent frivolity; it is in fact... the Work of the Wiki. 
     Whew! That was long! If you just read all that, thanks and I'm sorry! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Don't be sorry. What you wrote was true to the deepest. '''We''' are the Wiki. You, me, the gnomes, the admins, the fanstuffers, the forumers, the developers, those who left, those who lurk, those that always complain that they spend too much time on "Dumb animal characters". '''We''' are all part of this, and I know it sounds like a cliché, but we must continue joining together for a common couse. It's hard to write as long as you do, but I just want to say: '''Thank you HRWiki.''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::You just said exactly what I've wanted to say ever since I joined this Wiki. At the risk of sounding like a complete nerd, I truly have to say that the friendships I've built on this Wiki are better than some of my friendships in real life. What I love about this Wiki is that you feel this sense of community that is hard to feel on other HUGE wikis like Wikipedia. Everyone knows each other, everyone participates in discussions, and everyone here has one thing in common: Homestar Runner. Thank you AbdiViklas. Thank you to everyone working on this Wiki, for you are not really working on the Wiki, '''You are the Wiki itself.''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That was by far the smartest thing I have ever heard. Like has matt, That's what I have been so afraid to say all along. It's so, so true. Amazing. You, sir, are in the skys, in the empire of great writers like Jack London, and pretty much everyone who has inspired me. Thank you. {{User: Seriously/sig}}

== Personal Images ==

I draw you attention to [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images|Sir Strong Bad's]] talk page where you offered to take one of Sir Strong Bad's personal images for your own so that he will be in compliance with the image policy. Please choose one of the following images and claim as your own if you have an image slot to spair by inserting your name into the <nowiki>{{personal-image|Sir Strong Bad}}</nowiki> tag:
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d0/SSB%27s_Gang.gif SSB's_Gang.gif] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/be/SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/24/B_and_W_Swedish_Fish.jpg B and W Swedish Fish.jpg] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/0/0c/Macedonia_B_and_W.jpg Macedonia B and W.jpg] </s>
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Homsar_Old_timey_bandit.PNG Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/9/91/homestaryodlebw.PNG homestaryodlebw.PNG] </s>

I show that you have 2 empty personal image slot. Thanks, have a great day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
:I took the fish. I would have sooner, but I wasn't sure whether it required anything more elaborate than changing the template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Kaption Kontest ==
Yeah, could I follow the rules by making it on my [[User:Seriously/old captions|Archive]]? Also, I strongly disagree with this rule when it's only a bit of fun. There is no con to people editing my userpage; unless it's the ever-hated guestbook signing or vandalizing (obviously.) I would like you to consider letting me keep it as it presents no immediate harm. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, why havn't you been on? I miss seeing comments with 100 lines just to fit your ideas. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL; because the 100 lines have been going into school-related activities. I was far more active in December and January since I had less work. Expect higher involvement in March, declining in April, and nearly non in mid-May, with a sudden spike around the last week. And a 60% chance of rain.
::Now then, about the captions: I guess it's not a hard-'n'-fast ''rule'' per se at the moment, and it's certainly not a matter of ''making'' you move it. What we ''do'' have in the way of suggestions on the topic: It's dot com says in [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities|HRWiki talk:Guestbooks]], "Please note that you should not encourage people to edit your user page, for any reason." [[HRWiki:User space#What can I have on my user page?|HRWiki:User space]] says "In general, avoid editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct any linking errors that might confuse readers. However, some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect." This clearly means that non-owner edits aren't ''completely'' forbidden. It also hints at a possibility that the owner could encourage the edits of others, though from context and when it was written, I imagine it means an invitation to feel free to correct mistakes or improve content (for instance, [[User:FireLily]], [[User:Ppk01#Japanese_Character_Names]], or [[User:Thechamp#Links_and_stuff]]). That would probably result in much less frequent non-owner editing than a recurring feature. So yeah, I'm certainly not "making" you move it, but I still suggest it. Kinda using your argument against you, what would it hurt? Well... I suppose even if you kept the image and an "edit!" link on your user pages, the captions wouldn't be with it. I was thinking there might be some way, via [[Wikipedia:Transclusion|Transclusion]], to keep the content elsewhere, have users edit elsewhere, but have it show up on your user page. I did a test in the sandbox that seemed like that didn't work, but I haven't given up on it yet. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Update: I wasn't able to get transclusion to work in my brief test. I tried putting <nowiki>{{User:AbdiViklas/welcome}}</nowiki> here, as my only subpage, and as expected it appeared. Then I went and edited the original welcome subpage and saved, but the edit didn't appear here on refresh. I'll have to submit this to those who know more about how this place works. '''Attention: 'elp!''' Is live transclusion (including updates being reflected) only for the Template namespace? Or did my test not work because the changes take more than a few seconds to propagate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Regarding transclusion: give it another go, but this time instead of a browser refresh, give the page an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&action=purge action=purge]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Cool. But I was just now trying it with [[HRFWiki:Sandbox]], since It's dot com asked that the contest be moved to Fanstuff, and I guess transclusion doesn't work interwiki? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Nope, no interwiki transclusion. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Ach wohl. (For Heimstern's benefit!) So I guess, unless It's dot com's cool with it being on a subpage, the best you can do is put the image and a link on your user page. You could of course update it manually when someone adds to it over at Fanstuff. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me. ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wow; congratulations! I've got a couple of awards [[#GVBAoA|higher up on this page]], but not pizza-based! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Pizza's always better. It also feels good that this trophy is actually taken seriously, as it seems it means much more to users than I thought it did. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Google fight? ==

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/TheKookyOne/googlefight_kooky_abdi.png 
Well, you've beat me again, comrade! ''(Though, I must wonder, what 22,500 people would want to look us up so bad?)'' =P I'm just stopping by to say hi, considering it's been a while since I was around here. How've things been? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Egad—and just browsing the first few pages of those results ''are'' all posts of mine on here (plus a few on various tech support boards)! Is it really possible that I've made over <s>11,000</s> eleventyhundred edits? I'm not sure whether that's an accomplishment or a monumental squandering of time! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd lean towards "monumental squandering". Except I'm only 300 results behind you. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::: Yeah, well, I beat both of you ''combined''! 'Course it helps that my user name is an English word... :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah that's cuz you [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Jay cheated] :-p (at 157,000,000). For non common names I have Abdi and Kookyk [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Stux beat]: 287,000 to 14,100. But the ultimate winner has to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=It%27s+dot+com&word2=Stux Dot com]: weighin in at 501,000. Not to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Tom&word2=Jay outdone], Jay is easily outclassed by Tom at a whopping 539,000,000. Congratulbalatitaitions Tom! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::But Stux is a Linux program, isn't it? So most of those hits are not you. I get 26,500 hits, and you can guarantee they're all me! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Aw, I'm only at 1190 ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''EDC:''' Well... yeah (I'm surprised that you even know about it! I just learned that it existed today!) but I don't mind counting an OS named after me! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Mine is 239,000,000. That's just awesome. But what did I do to get so much? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Probably the fact that like Stux, Jay, and Tom, your username is also a word (and in your case, a common noun) that Google would find in other contexts. What's entertaining is pitting two [[Wikipedia:Egosurfer|ego-surfs]] against each other; for instance, my brother's name beats mine handily, despite the fact that I actually have a "real" entry (i.e. related to me) in the second page of my Google results, whereas his are all about some middle school and a guy who got the Victoria Cross. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Hey Abdi. It is my pleasure to announce that you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges and responsibilities. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. May you always use your powers for good and for awesome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Great jorb Abdi. You've deserved it all to much {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, congratulations. ^-^ Keep on doin' great things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Congratulations man! notstrongorbad just became a bit stronger, but still not badder. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Abdi. My main man. My ace in the hole. Well, a few months ago I would never have thought I'd beat you to sysophood, even by one day. Man, music grad students as sysops? Can the wiki '''handle this??!!''' Anyway, glad you're on board. Oh, and I still hope for Homestravinky Runner to be realised someday. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congradulations, AbdiViklas, AKA Notstrongnorbad, AKA Professor Tor Coolguy. Your devotion to the project and your long esseys about the site are the glue that keeps us together. You brought happiness and tolarance to the wiki in your own special way. You deserve this promotion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:Everyone, didn't I say this would happen? Huh? You and Lapper? In IRC? With excessive question marks? Hey, congrats. You're a great user, Abdi! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::From the minute you welcomed me, I knew you had syop potential. You're a truly great user, man. I'm glad this has finally happened to you. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::And two more. Does this mean I have to come up with more H*R-themed "congrats"? Uh... Oh, well, congratulations! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:58, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Congratulations! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well! For the longest time, I had thought you were a sysop - you welcomed me (and it wasn't until later that I realized you didn't have to be a sysop to do that), and you've always made outstanding edits to the wiki. I've certainly enjoyed working on this wiki with you and the rest of the gang <s>up here at Possum Lodge</s> - you're administra-awesome! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:27, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:Congrats, Abdi. I wasn't in on the decision (I wasn't back from hiatus until yesterday), but you'll be a great asset to our sysop team. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

'''OSCAR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH:''' Thank you—thank you all—<sob> ... so very much... Seriously, I appreciate youse guys' appreciation and encouragement; you're all swell gents (and... gentesses?). If you haven't noticed, I haven't been around so much lately; my school time requirements have been a lot higher since the beginning of February than they were before. But I still intend to show up ''at least'' once a week or so, and like all things, this crunch shall pass. So, until I poke my nose in again, Chins up! Tifle down! And so on... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas (2) ==

How are you, anything happen to you recently?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'll say! In just the past week I: 1) Got a new dual-chip [http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/entnb_e1705?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn laptop computer] (with a coupon, got one worth $2,800 for $2,000), 2) got into a wreck—don't worry, I wasn't hurt at all and neither was anybody else—but my car was totalled and now I have to find a new one, and 3) was made a sysop! (And 4, made some Jambalaya. But it was already a day after Mardi Gras, so as a tribute to New Orleans it was a little late.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry about your car. Although it's still pretty awesome you were maqde a sysop, so that helps a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 14:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== You no old, man! ==

Since when is being over twenty-five old? An emcee that age would be considered very young. You're not old until you start ''acting'' old in my opinion. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Well, ''I'' feel old. I think it's when you ''feel'' old that it counts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, considering that I routinely act about 16, I guess you've got a point, Darth. (That can be a little problematic when trying to ''teach'' 16-year-olds; I keep getting into discussions about Inuyasha...) But it does mean something when your closest friends stop saying things like "So where are we going tonight?" and start saying things like "So good to hear from you! Remind me of your phone number; I seem to have lost it." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

:::You sound like my mom. She's a teacher, too. Only, my mom likes ''Halo'' more than ''Inuyasha''. She, like, walks right past the bad guys and they don't even notice. She's also smart like you, too. My mom actually liked screamo metal rock before I did, and I started liking it because she listened to it all the time. And Dorian, I feel old all the time, but not right now because I'm on a sugar high...and I feel so alive...for the very first time...and if I have any more cookies I'll probably get so hyper I'll fly, fly (only P.O.D. nerds will get that). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== totally kill all imposters! ==

Hmmmmm... I have no idea how that happenned. Thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Ed smildE|Ed smilde]]/[[User talk:Ed smildE|talk]]

== Happy easter ==

Hello abdiviklas how are, how's easter (If you celebrate it?)?

What have you been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hi! My Easter was great; I spent most of the morning playing my violin in church (which isn't exactly like most churches' Easter service; our worship leader is a former R&B guitarist from Alabama, so my playing style in church is less classical and more a mix of Dave-Mathews-type rock and old-timey Appalachian-type sounds). I spent most of the rest of the day working on my taxes (which are due today) and making [http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipes/meat-poultry/greekmeatballs-cb.html "Greek" meatballs] (except I mixed ground lamb with the beef) with [http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/indian/00/rec0055.html cucumber raita]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
::Glad to hear it. Let's hope the rest of the year is as kind. (And maybe with a little bit less tax mess. =p) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Hey, just to let you know... ==

Wiki grrl is my best friend. Pardon her grammer; she'll correct it. I told her about homestar a long time ago and now she finally created an account here. The "bug swallow" thing on her userpage is because one of her favorite quotes from here is the whole routine Homestar goes through when he swallows a bug in Bug In Mouth Disease. Just thought you might want to know. And don't ask about PEP. I can't tell you. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 21:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. I love it when people who know each other in "real life" are on the wiki. And I'm glad she finds [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] funny; I have a hard time doing so. I try, I really try, on a regular basis, but each time I come to the end of the toon feeling a little dissapointed. Funny how one person's favorite can be another's least favorite and vice versa! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

==Typo==
Holy cow. Thank you a hecka ton for catching that spelling mistake. I ment to say "Marzipan was originally intended to be Homestar's '''''girl'''''friend." Thanx for catching that. Now, should I post the revised fact somewhere on the page? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 20:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
:My gut says no. The same thing is already said more fully at [[Marzipan]], but there it's speaking of character depth (i.e. just there as a "Homestar accessory"). Putting it in an article about their relationship and wording it as "originally intended to be" makes it sound like she isn't anymore. And I've known people with ''way'' more off-and-on relationships than Homestar and Marzipan who would still refer to each other as "girlfriend" or "boyfriend." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings and explanations ==

First off, thanks for streamlining the not-for-profit thing on the [[space program]] article. Your edit was what I thought of doing in the first place, but I thought it might be a bit presumptuous. After seeing someone else do it, I realize I was worrying about nothing.

Second, in response to the comment you affixed to a recent edit of [[band names]], Aerosmith is a misspelling of "arrowsmith", old term for someone who specialized in making arrows. When MTV did a 10th anniversary special, Mel Gibson did a segment introducing the band Aerosmith, and the segment started off with him making an arrow the old-fashioned way, with a big hammer and stuff, and as he was admiring his handiwork, he acted as if someone off-camera was talking to him and said "what? oh, the ''band'' Aerosmith? oh..." I hadn't actually heard the word before that, and I researched it and discovered that that's actually where the band got their name. It's a fairly obscure term these days, so it's not really a surprise that many people don't know the word (and the wing motif on their album covers coinciding with the "aero" prefix just confuses things even more). - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 10:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you learn something new every day! Especially my first thought for "someone who makes arrows" is "[http://www.tfd.com/Fletcher fletcher]". It was a little hard to track down, but [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Arrowsmith arrowsmith] does appear to be legit, though. (Nonetheless it's still a good candidate for the "two will do" principle; otherwise why not add Boyz II Men, Korn, Weezer, the Beetles, or the zillions of "ska"-derived names?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
== Yeah, Music Ed. Majors! ==
Hey! Thanks for the post on my talk page, I think it's always awesome to meet other musicians. The world doesn't have enough of us these days - at least, not enough good ones. Hillary Duff and Brittany Spears don't come close to counting! What's really awesome is that you studied at one of my top choices for Graduate school. (I'm getting my Masters and Doctorate Degrees in Performance, and Eastman has quite a track record in the trumpet world!) I'm also looking at Northwestern, CCM, Juliard, and DePaul, in no particular order. It's also nice to know that there are other Music people who waste as much time on this as I do, and likely more... {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 03:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Strike! ==

I agree w/ you on the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=senior_prom&curid=23493&diff=320901&oldid=320874&rcid=269236&hrwiki_mwiki6_session=a5568b8e1e114a5b647cdfc23672fe28 senior prom edit], but could you post what you summarized in the [[Talk:senior prom#Summary/Relevance|talk discussion]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== (No subject) ==

6 days 'go responded to that on my talk page case you wanted to look at that. I'm starting to sound like Strong Sad here...

Yoshi minus nothing 05:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

== Eating The Cheat ==

I think the line about eating The Cheat comes from [[narrator]] where Strong Bad says "surprised Strong Mad hasn't eaten The Cheat already", or something to that effect. Don't you love how someone can find an answer to a question so fast around this place? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I'm glad you can! Several "site:" searches in Google failed to do it for me. Of course I was searching for "eat", not "eaten", which explains it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
::I have some sort of urge to make a joke about "eat or be eaten", but I can't think of the wording... Hmm... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== How Do You Do It? ==

AdbiViklas, How do you do it? The long essay-like answers to questions others dare not ask. Your likely answer to this question will be, "It come naturally when your older!" But after further speculation I realized your one of the most astoundingly literate and brilliant people I have ever met. Such brain power is often looked over where I live sadly, but I see that you and a lot of people on this wiki are smart and really deserve to be recognized. Thank you for you time, {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, anything happen to you recently? Anyway, what have been up to?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:Mostly looking for jobs. I'll be graduating in a week, and want to go ahead and be teaching by the start of the school year. The problem is there aren't that many schools that have orchestra programs and no teacher. There's one about a 45-minute drive from me, and a couple others about a 3-hour drive from me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== You're in Durham? ==

I'm in Clayton, less than an hour from you. I'll be in Durham on tuesday, going to a Bulls game. Later this summer, I'm moving to Laurinburg, though.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Ha! How about that? Yeah, Bull games are fun. I should go now that I'm done with school (and before I start again on the teaching end of it!). Minor leage baseball is the way to go: you can get in for roughly the cost of a movie, sit close enough that you can actually ''see'' the players as something other than moving dots, and there's always the $1 concessions days or fireworks shows afterward. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, my team is usually the Mudcats. Anyway, Charlotte murdered them, 7-0.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 21:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey, I was ''at'' that game! Yeah, my dad works for the [http://www.heraldsun.com Herald-Sun], and had four passes, so he just called me up that afternoon. It was kind of hard to get into the game when we never scored a run, but hey, I had a bratwurst and a bag of peanuts, and that's what really matters. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

::::No kidding? Both my parents work for the [http://www.newsobserver.com N&O].--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heh; I'm just finishing up a year's subscription to them. It would always have seemed a little traitorous before, but since the Herald-Sun was taken over by some outside company and became a lousy place to work, it was okay. Actually, as of this week, my Dad ended his 10 or so years at the paper and is now an editor at, of all things, a magazine for accountants. Yeah, N&O rocks. Sadly, since I'm moving to Fayetteville, I'll be missing it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I'm pretty sure you can still get the N&O in Fayetteville. My Dad grew up there, and that's where my parents met, at the Fayetteville Observer. Oddly enough, Laurinburg is less than an hour from there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Cool; maybe I should look into extending my subscription. I'll actually be renting a sweet, sweet house in Stedman, pop. 600, about 10 minutes' drive east of Fayetteville. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Slowly Going the Way of an MxPx Reference ==

When you said that thing about guestbooks "slowly going the way of the buffalo or MxPx" months ago, I didn't get it. Well, my mom and dad came back from dinner a couple of days ago and my mom had bought me an MxPx disc...guess which one? ;) Now I get it. Man...how come you're cooler than me? LOL.

It's a ''really'' good album, too. "Tomorrow's Another Day" is an awesome song. Oh yeah, and did you ever hear MxPx's cover of "Drum Machine Joy" by Joy Electric? I'm hunting down that EP right now just for that one song! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:LOL; maybe I know about these things because that album came out when I was in high school. I had a friend who was very indie/punk/underground-oriented; he introduced me to Sixpence (which at the time had more the connotation of Whitestripes and less... well, the romantic-comedy-soundtrack staple they became), Five Iron, Joy Electric, Echoing Green, and other much more obscure and long-forgotten quirky groups, while I introduced him to Shostakovich and other kick-butt classical music. In an interesting twist of fate, he's now a drummer in Chapel Hill's healthy indie scene, taking lessons from his childhood idol, Sixpence drummer Dale Baker, who now has a [http://www.newsobserver.com/697/story/454402.html second life as a father and Montessori preschool teacher in my town]. But no, aside from the tracks on ''8-Ball'' samplers, I never heard that much of Joy Electric or MxPx. Five Iron and (yes, I admit) Reliant K are my ska/punk of choice, and I don't really go beyond them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

::Cool! :) By the way, the lead singer of Sixpence is doing a [http://www.leighnash.com/ solo project] which looks pretty interesting. I'll keep you updated on how that's going. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== After a hefty hiatus... ==

I, {{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}, RETURN to the electronically communicating world of '''2007!''' '''Stop'''

My blasted '''Telly 400''' was swiped from the very comfort of my domecile, and upon it's return.. '''Stop'''

I was shocked to realize that the bloody roustabanks had cut off her '''little toe'''!!! '''Stop'''

What was one to do without the comma key!? '''Stop'''

I had no choice but to begin a quest... or.. send The Sneak.. on a worldwide search for my beloved Telly's little toe! '''Stop'''

To my great delight, it was returned and I can once again begin heckling the inhabitants of the '''post-modern Free Country USA!!''' '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== An electronic request ==

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  10:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC) 
 
Dear Sir Viklas STOP 

I wish to inform you that some of our gang members have left the Wiki! STOP 

I would like to ask you for somewhat of a favor if you feel up to it. STOP 

 
Dapperly yours,

Sir Strong Bad
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== Not an active thread... ==

...but nevertheless it is nice to know that somebody still visits my page! And yes, obviously I do too. Dang, I guess I need a little bit of an update, don't I? I did the whole public school teaching thing for a year, and the short version is I found out I'm not a good enough "disciplinarian" to do it well, and really don't think I'd be happy even if I were. Basically I had time to eat and sleep—no, wait, just to sleep—well, not like every night, you know.... So my wikitivity was pretty limited. Since then, I've gone back to teaching one person at a time, and am much happier. I'm even teaching some freshmen at a well-known university that starts with a "D" and rhymes with "puke".... But I'm still pretty much as busy (it's just okay, because it's busy for my own stuff instead of things I'm forced to do), and don't really expect my activity to go much beyond logging on once a Monday update's brouhaha has died down and fixing anything I might notice. But I just want all y'all to know I'm still around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, here's another ex-teacher who left it - my reason is that I had to make administrators happy before I made kids smart. Not the order of operations in my manual. Anyway, glad you are still around and take care of business. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
And another update: On Christmas Eve I got engaged! Sadly, my fiancée is Homestar-illiterate. As you can imagine, that won't last long. Also, Heimstern might be interested to know that I'm thinking about a DMA... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:Congrats, dude! Abdi may be interested to know that... well, I burned out on my PhD and am not pursuing it anymore. Maybe someday, but not now. At least I got out with that M.A. signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger (interesting thing that happens when you graduate from the University of California). So, I'm not in school anymore, which I think is for the best. If you do decide on getting a DMA, I've no doubt you'll have a great experience. Has fun! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hey Abdi! Long time no see! Congratulations on the engagement! I also wish you the best in your DMA (should you choose to pursue it). On my end, my PhD and MS pursuits are also on hold. If you have time, you should swing by [[HRW:IRC|IRC]] sometime! Cheers! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Is my signature too big to fit the Wiki's guidelines? Thanks!

{{User:Evershiner/sig}} 23:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Evershiner: It looks okay to me!
:{{sigbox|User:Evershiner/sig}}
:Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks! I'm guessing its a tad too big, but I don't think that will make a big difference. Hope not! If any of you think I can't get away with it, please let me know! Thanks so much!

== Baby daddy ==

Combolations! How great for you and Mrs. Viklas! (I'm assuming it is she who'll be doing most of the work.) Do you konw the sex? I'm guessing girl. Keep us updated, and don't be such a stranger! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:No, it's just 9 weeks along. At 19 weeks, though, I definitely want to spring for the [[Wikipedia:3D ultrasound|3D ultrasound]]! And yeah, somehow we both have a hunch it's a girl... just a hunch. — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Abdi! What up man? Congratulations on the soon-to-be mini-Abdi! I'm sure he or she will be a very healthy baby! Good to see your doing well. Feel free to swing by IRC if you have free time. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh: It's a girl!! (We'll resist the temptation to name her What's Her Face. I'm not sure the grandparents would approve.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::My guess was right! Combolations! You should name her Elizagerth. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, yeah, Elizabeth Anne! Hm... guess who might have just gotten a new nickname... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== Looking for advice ==

Hi, I've had this account for a while, but I've never really used it. When I joined, you sent a welcome message on my talk page, so now I thought I'd seek your advice on something.
I had an idea for a page and don't know whether or not it's notable enough: Noses. It seems to be a running gag, what with several toons mentioning them specifically, and many characters lacking them. I don't know how many examples I need for it to be a viable page in it's own right. Any advice on this would help. Thanks --[[User:DoctorWorm|DoctorWorm]] 10:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:Gee, I'd never noticed just how much there ''is'' about noses until I searched for them just now! Still, I think that's covered in [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]], both in the sections on "Strong Bad's Nose" and "Other" (Marzipan's nose job). Nice to see you back around! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 15:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)