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Emails Taken in a Different Direction

Alun Clewe — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:29:15 GMT

Alun Clewe: Various minor grammar and style corrections

[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb|Do you want to take it in a different direction?]]
<blockquote>I'm one step ahead of you, Alex. Though I decided to take it in a bit of a different direction.</blockquote>

<cite>Strong Bad, in [[1 step ahead]]</cite>

Sometimes when [[Strong Bad]] answers an [[Strong Bad Emails|email]], he '''disregards the content of the email or does the complete opposite''', even though in [[lady fan]] he claims, when receiving "stupid emails", to be "obligated by law to do what they say". Often, this is because Strong Bad either feels he is unable, or doesn't want to answer the immediate question (such as in [[dangeresque 3]] where he could not say when Dangeresque 3 was to be released, as he had no intention of finishing Dangereque 3 at the time), because he simply misunderstands the question (such as in [[homsar]] where Strong Bad thinks Vinnie C. is suggesting that he kill [[Homsar]] rather than [[Homestar Runner]]), because he finds the question too stupid to answer (such as in [[spring cleaning]]), or because he has a better idea (such as in [[1 step ahead]], where he glues [[Strong Sad]]'s hands to his butt rather than to his head).

==Appearances==
*Email [[homsar]] — Vinnie C. suggests that if Strong Bad hates [[Homsar]] (most likely a misspelling of [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]) so much, he should kill him. Strong Bad, however, takes this literally, leading him to kill a new character, Homsar, instead.
*Email [[spring cleaning]] — Strong Bad [[DELETED!|deletes]] each email instead of doing what it suggests.
*Email [[1 step ahead]] — One of the choices is to TAKE IT IN A BIT OF A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. If this choice is picked, Strong Bad does, in fact, take it in a different direction by gluing [[Strong Sad]]'s hands to his butt instead of his face.
*Email [[superhero name]] — [[Strong Badman Characters#Stiny|Stiny]] asks about Strong Bad's name, but Strong Bad instead makes fun of Stiny's.
*Email [[gimmicks]] — Strong Bad is reminded of the times when he didn't need a gimmick to be funny... shortly before his computer explodes.
*Email [[caper]] — James asks Strong Bad and [[The Cheat]] to pull a caper. Strong Bad responds by recalling how The Cheat screwed up "the Jumble caper", and spends the rest of the email repairing their relationship.
*Email [[big white face]] — Jen C. asks Strong Bad why he is mean to the guy with the big white face and gray body (clearly referring to Strong Sad). Strong Bad replies by trying to do something nice for [[The Poopsmith]] (thinking the sender was referring to a black and white picture of him) by baking him a cake, but instead throws the cake at Strong Sad and has to make The Cheat make him another one.
*Email [[sibbie]] — Sibbie asks Strong Bad to write a song about him/her, like Strong Bad did for [[Fhqwhgads]], but Strong Bad insists he's "not here to fulfill your every freakin' whim". The song does get made, but completely against Strong Bad's will.
*Email [[stupid stuff]] — Kevin Grumbles asks Strong Bad to make Homestar say something stupid, but instead he tries to earn [[Grumblecakes]] by making Homestar say something smart. The result is Homestar making Strong Bad say something stupid.
*Email [[car]] — Kyle asks Strong Bad if he has a "pimped out" car, but Homestar shifts focus to his "tricked out [[Homestar Runner's Hat|propeller cap]]".
*Email [[dangeresque 3]] — John Newell asks when Dangeresque 3 is coming out, and instead Strong Bad shows a remastered version of Dangeresque 1.
*Email [[old comics]] — Zack asks why [[The King of Town]] has a poopsmith, but instead Strong Bad talks about the time the King of Town and The Poopsmith apparently had their own old syndicated newspaper comic called [[The Castlefunnies]].
*Email [[origins]] — Strong Bad pointedly refuses to talk about the origins of [[The Stick]], and instead goes on a tangent about The Stick's hangingoutitude and the formation of the [[On Point Kings]].
*Email [[long pants]] — Instead of doing what the long email says, Strong Bad makes it shorter, starting to answer his edited version and ultimately causing Homestar to get "[[Homestar Runner's Daisy Dukes|creepy pants]]".
*Email [[narrator]] — Grant Gossman asks Strong Bad if he has ever done narration for a movie, but instead he narrates the other characters' lives as if they were movie trailers.
*Email [[what I want]] — Talon Jendro asks Strong Bad what he would like for [[Decemberween]], but instead Strong Bad focuses on a list of presents he does ''not'' want.
*Email [[looking old]] — Andy Hsiao asks Strong Bad how old he is, but instead he tells us his [[age]] is a secret, then spends the rest of the email trying to appeal to the youth demographic.
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — Lewis Rudkin asks Strong Bad to either throw The Cheat as far as he can or beat the crud out of Homestar. Strong Bad instead talks about a contest held in [[Strong Badia]] called the [[Strong Badathlon (contest)|Strong Badathlon]].
*Email [[unnatural]] — Strong Bad is asked if Strong Badia ever has natural disasters, but spends more time talking about Strong Badia's unnatural disasters, like the time [[Bubs]] became the giant [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]].
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — Strong Bad is asked to show some of his "awesome wrestling moves", but instead talks about the various gimmicks and wrestling personae he used during his wrestling career.
*Email [[licensed]] — Strong Bad is asked if he has any licensed merchandise, but instead shows us some of his unlicensed items.
*Email [[rated]] — Instead of talking about his favorite movie, Strong Bad talks about his favorite genre of movie.
*Email [[hiding]] — When asked about his "awesome hiding place" for Hide 'n' Seek, Strong Bad instead goes on to talk about the pros and cons of using the game to get rid of Homestar, only referring to his hiding place close to the end by refusing to talk about it.
*Email [[email thunder]] — Strong Bad sits down to check his 200th e-mail, but instead it is addressed to Homestar.
*Email [[imaginary]] — Strong Bad is asked how to get rid of an annoying friend, but he instead talks about Strong Sad's imaginary friend, [[Scotty Titi]]. However, he comes back to the subject at the end of the email by suggesting that the sender should [[duct tape]] his brother's friend to the ceiling.
*Email [[independent]] — Strong Bad is asked if Strong Badia has a film festival, but then spends the time discussing the difference between independent and indie films. Then Strong Bad mocks the writer, guessing that he expected to see the characters' entries in the film festival.

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User talk:Defender1031

Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:48:44 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Invisicble */ OK, got it; thanks.

{{User talk:DeFender1031/Archivenav}}
== the next epi-snowed ==

I added that fun fact because it is a little odd that Blue Laser would tell his minion to add something that has already been added, especially since Blue Laser appears to be staring at the list as he says it. I would think this merits some fun fact-ness. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's been added and removed a couple of times, and is on the [[Talk:The Next Epi-Snowed#Cold cuts easter egg|talk page]] without much response. I personally think that something that obvious isn't notable, that's all. You are right, i should have been a bit descriptive in my summary. (Also thank you, my talk page is no longer lonely.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== Happy 8600 ==

If the template IS on the page, shouldn't we link to it? Why aren't the TD and iMac onthere, either? {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 14:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:This is not the place for this discussion. They are not on there because they are not strong bad's nor has he ever used them to check an email of his... actually, on second thought, he DID use TG once... so perhaps that one should be... i don't know, why not start a thread on the talk page for that template, as in, not here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Good user ==
Would I be qualified as a good user? I know I don't do much, but I try to make articles and Images better...
{{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:Everybody is a good user! We all do something to help the wiki as long as you're editing, I like to think. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 12:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I qualify? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Of course! :] {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}

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You deserve this. {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
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You deserve ''this.'' You earned it, so hang it on your talk page in honor! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 16:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
Sorry that I was mad at you at the talk page. I hadn't exactly realized what you were doing. Sorry. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 22:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not a problem. I understood that you were unaware of the proper way to move an article. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Heyyyy... ==

Will you umm... make me a... halloween sig? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:I can try, but my sig is very simple, just a gradient. All i did was change the colors of it. In truth, i'm pretty bad at sig-making. I would probably temporarily make homsar in orange on a black background and do something with the letters and those colors. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::I can help with the image, if I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here.. (a pink pool of blood, perhaps?) ;) {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm already in the process of uploading... some of the edges are a bit off, but i expect it won't matter in the 20px size anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ooh okay. Coolio! Opty... for the image I was thinking maybe HOmsar dressed as Slash? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 01:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::In that case, i'll let opty handle the image. (I suggest re-uploading over the existing Image:HomsarInPink.png so that it doesn't use another PI page for Acam, as well as so that that part of the sig doesn't need changing.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Done. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Perhaps it'd look better if you gave him an orange shirt? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I don't know. Orange and black aren't the only colors that would look Halloweenish. But here's what he looks like at [http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9199/orangeslashfullcd0.png full size] and as part of the sig:
:::::::::— '''''[[User:Acam30|Acam30]]''''' http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7596/orangeslash20pxva7.png
::::::::Acam, your thoughts? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::YAAAAAY!!! Thanks guys! Me likey! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 11:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Do you prefer the blue- or the orange-shirted Homsar-as-Slash? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Blue is grood. I likes it! {{User:Acam30/sig}} 11:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

DeFender, you need to be a sysop. I'm surprised that no one else has made you one yet. You would make an awesome one! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 11:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, DeFender's not a sysop?! I'm speechless here, honestly! I agree, he needs to be one! --[[Special:Contributions/70.143.29.193|70.143.29.193]] 02:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Truthfully now, I wouldn't mind him to die in a hole. [[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Wha... why?! What'd Deffy do this time? {{User:Acam30/sig}} 19:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::He didn't die. [[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I assure you, i'm dead on the inside. Seriously, let's not do this here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Actually, I agree with Acam. He needs to live and live as an admin, now that I think about it... =3[[Special:Contributions/70.148.111.10|70.148.111.10]] 19:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Your Pic ==
Defender, the [[BMW Lighter|Fire]] in your pic kinda looks like [[The Cheat]] is on [[BMW Lighter|Fire]]... a very crude [[The Cheat]] that is. :P --{{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 16:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:To me it looks more like a dinosaur smoking a cigarette... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== Your sig pic ==

Do you want me to possibly remove the background? Just wondering, I'm bored and have photoshop and need to do something productive. {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:No thanks. I don't feel like wasting a personal image and wiki server space on a one-time holiday sig. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Scripts ==

How do you write scripts? Like to do a gradient comment. Where do I go? What do I do? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know what you mean by "comment". But the script i wrote to do gradients is in C++. I've spent nearly 4 years studying programming, which is how i know how to write scripts. I don't know where to tell you to begin. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== B-Day! ==

[[Image:TheBee.PNG|thumb|Bee day!]]
Well, not where I am, but in Israel I guess it is. Here's a card I made you: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJEooaD9hTE http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/Winnuh/Picture4.png?t=1225407008] 
Your pal, {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, that's just Danday!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::"Congratulations, Daniel on your 2008 Birthday! ...I'm [[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2!]]" "Uh, I think it says that in the sig, Mikey." "Well I didn't know that!" {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 12:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
{{clear}}

aww, crap, someone beat me to it. and mike beat me to it. happy birthday, halloween and dia de los muertos to you, defender. and, as a special treat, and to incluse a homestar reference.......

*ahem*

sweet sweet deffy,

today is the day on your fake ID,

so get upstairs,

uh,

and fix me some Dinner (because it's five here)

now go answer some emails and your birthday gift from me is done

happy Birthday, Dan Foodeater!  {{clear}}
from {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 21:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC) and all of hrwiki (probably)

<big><big><big><big>HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEFFY-PIE!!!!!!!</big></big></big></big>
<center>{{User:Acam30/sig}} 00:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)</center>

== Quick Question ==

Hey! I just have a quick question. How do you submit fanstuff? I searched it, but I just got a link to a page that didn't do anything. I don't know if you know or not, but I thought it was worth a shot. [[User:Tigerstripe|Tigerstripe]] 21:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:I really don't know, having never done so myself. I assume it's as simple as sending a picture of it in an email to TBC, but i really don't know. [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] once got his thing featured, why not try asking him? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::You could always just [[Email]] TBC.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== irc problem ==

hey, dan. i got disconnected and when i try to go back in, it says my nick is in use and doesn't let me in. any way around this? or do i need to wait? {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 23:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:nevermind. i'm back in {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 23:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== my mentor... ==

I'm probably thinkin' you're my mentor and all. I could nominate you for sysop abilities, but keep up the good work. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Redirects ==
Hi [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]], It's [[User:Mas12806|Mas12806]]. I was meaning to ask you, how do you make a redirect? I wasn't exactly comfortable asking an [[HRWiki:Bureaucrats|admin]], and I needed to know how so I could keep the Wiki moving. And your welcome for the Brunswick Stew! Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 02:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:You create a page with the content <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Target Pagename]]</nowiki> {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I knew that way, but when I tried that, it came out as this instead as a regular redirect:

#REDIRECT [[Homestar Runner]]

And a regular redirect page looks [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar&redirect=no like this]. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:What do you mean by a "regular redirect"? what kind of redirect do you want? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
::Did you put a space between the "#" and the word "REDIRECT"? That would cause the redirect not to work. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 03:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Note that when you preview a redirect page, that's how it'll look. When you actually submit, the MediaWiki software does its magic, and it turns into a proper redirect page. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 03:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Now I understand everything. Thanks [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]], [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]], and [[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]]. A new redirect I did: [[The Brothers Chaps Office]]. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 13:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

==Could you set me up with a Sig?==

[[User:homsarstrongbad150|homsarstrongbad150]] sent me to you if I wanted a sig and colourful username, could you tell me how to do it? [[User:ALJ123456|ALJ123456]]
:You may want to start [[HRWiki:Signature|here]] and [[Help:Signature|here]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::Hey DeFender, I have a sig but can you blend some colurs together plz? like green and black and whatever else? It would be a big help. thx. also, could you show me how to make it show up whenever i do <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>? At the moment i just paste in the code. zee you nezz tim! [[Image:homsar_evolution_current.png|20px]][[User:Open Source Greg|Open Source Greg]][[Image:Open_Source_Greg.png|20px]]([[User talk:Open Source Greg|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Open Source Greg|edits]]) 
:::I kind of need you to be a bit more specific about what you want. And as for making it work with the tildes, go to your preferences, set your signature to be "<nowiki>{{User:Open Source Greg/sig}}</nowiki>", and make sure the "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" box is checked, and then save. That should do it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::::wow, thx. I guess my sig is good enough. [[User:Open Source Greg|Open Source Greg]] 00:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Would you suggest changing my sig at holidays, or my birthday? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 00:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::I like to. But it's totally up to you. If you're like me, you'll just bug smart peoples like Deffy here to make you one whenever a holiday rolls around. {{User:Acam30/sig}} 03:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::And if you're REALLY smart, and your name is Acam30, you go online while you're editing to say hi every so often... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Actually, Acam30, I wasn't suggesting he make me one for holidays/birthdays, I was asking if it was a good idea to change it for holidays/birthdays. Also, could anyone tell me how to blend colours together in your sig? Thanks. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 04:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The color blend thing is a script i wrote that is currently available only to me, that i intend to re-write at some point to make it web-based so that anyone can have access to it. At the moment, you need to tell me exactly what colors you want and what the text should be, and i can do it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Basically, I just want to have one color blend for the whole year, and change the pictures to match that time of year. The color blend I want is dark green --> light green --> white/light grey. Do you think you could help me? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Also, I want a thicker font. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC) Sorry if this is too much, but I feel [[Bogus Mathematical Theorems|the better the sig, the better the user]]
::::::::::::Never mind the font, I figured that out :) {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Do you think you could help me with the color blend by the 8th of april? because that's my birthday? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== "then why did you delete this too?" ==

If you really want to know, it's because I'm using the Wii to edit again. (my Lappy's battery doesn't charge) {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== DVD transcripts ==
I did the commentary transcripts for [[coloring]] and [[trading cards]], but they probably weren't completely accurate. Can you take a look at them both, please, and fix them both if you can? Thanks. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 00:50, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:What makes you think that i have the DVDs? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I've seen your scripting for the [[keep cool]], which is on the same DVD as the two emails I did, so I figured you might be able to help. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 01:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Whoops. My mistake, it was The Pizz who had done the [[keep cool]] email. [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 01:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sandbox problems ==
I checked the sandbox it it was all weird. there were blue boxes and black boxes covering everything. Can you try to change it back?[[User:Luis123|Luis123]]Luis123[[User:Luis123|Luis123]] 02:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Apparently I'm Not Helping ==
I have recently been charged with not helping when I post on the wiki.

Where I come from, teaching people to learn the meanings of phrases before they use them IS contributing - To society and education.
Where I'm from, education is paramount and stops you becoming a retarded txt speaker and McDonalds employee. {{unsigned|85.210.103.185}}
:Anonny, your edits were not constructive but disruptive. Your tone was confrontational, and your edits belonged on the talk page, not on the actual article. If you have any criticism on what should be in articles and what should not be, then please use the talk page to voice your concerns. In a civilised manner. Thank you.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== user boxs ==

you used when you discovered hrwiki twice
:Thanks, but it's not. One is when i discovered the site itself, the other is when i discovered this wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::I was wondering about that, thanks for the tip on my user page. [[User: Platinum789hi|Platinum789hi]]

== Pi revert ==
{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Pi&diff=prev&oldid=623102 concerning this edit}} 
Can you please give me a reason why you think it is not a stretch? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:They picked those numbers and dates. They have been known to stick in references to pi in subtle places. It stands to reason that they purposely picked these to reflect pi. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why come ==

okay, sorry, I didn't know about that page.
:nothing to apologize for. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::oh. well then i guess i made ur bottom ten

== Bottom 10 ==

I saw your bottom 10 and I am sorry. --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 21:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hahahahaha, it took me a second, i was about to write "for what?" when i realized.... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::I was going to write your opinions are total crap, but I thought that wouldn't be nice. --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 21:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That is correct. That wouldn't be nice... But since you didn't actually say it, it makes it totally fine to say that you WOULD HAVE said it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==
Hey man! Thanks for fixing my page along with [[User:It's Dot Com|It's Dot Com]]. I've been trying to do that ever since I signed up! With Lots of Crap, [[User:Record307|Record307]] 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:Any time bro, glad i could help. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Talkheader ==

Hey, I've created a new template at [[Template:Talkheader]]. I was wondering if you were any good at Wiki code, because I'm having three issues with it. Once the box is finished, I'd like to customize it to the Homestar Runner Wiki. Also, if this is redundant, let me know. [[User:Son|Son]] 16:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hey there, i'm actually curious what all these templates you're creating are for. We tend not to create templates without extensive discussion. I get the talkheader one, but not the others. (Also, there's better ways to put headers on all pages of a namespace than templates, and such a thing is best left up to the site developers.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for tagging those. I wholesale copied the Talkheader template from Wikipedia. In the process, it had these other templates layered in it. In my tired idiocracy, I tried to build those as well. It was becoming hopelessly complicated. At that point, I at least moved them into my userspace, though it's probably a lot simpler to just delete those in the first place. I thought that perhaps a talkheader would be a nice improvement to the site. I probably should have put in a request some where. If that's the case, I'll keep that in mind for the future. [[User:Son|Son]] 16:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, i can tag the remaining ones in your user space for deletion if you want. As for the talk page header, we already have something sort of like it, {{tl|talk}}. It might be worth expanding and seeing if the devs want to have mediawiki automatically add it to the top of every talk page. I certainly would support the idea, your template makes it very clear what talk pages are for, and it might be good to have a short list of talk page rules there. I think i'll bring it up with the devs and get back to you on it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that sounds good. I appreciate your help! [[User:Son|Son]] 16:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Anytime. And let me officially welcome you to the wiki. I notice you joined over a year ago, but didn't do much at the time and never got properly welcomed.
::::::Thank you! I appreciate your welcome to the Wiki! [[User:Son|Son]] 17:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== tt ==

I looked up what < tt > means...
From [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT#Computing_and_electronics Wikipedia]:
An HTML element for teletype or a monospace font family, e.g. <tt>monospace</tt>.
I'm guessing it's something that standardizes fonts if people use different skins in their preferences.

Hope this was of interest to you. It was to me when I saw you wondered (what I'm sure was probably more rhetorical than less...), so I looked it up. Thought I'd spread the word!
[[User:Son|Son]] 18:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks. It was unnecessary where it was anyway, also i think that these days it's been obsoleted in favor of more standardized css. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pictures ==
Hey dude, one question. You wouldn't mind if you could send me pages that need images, I'll be happy to supply one! I mean you don't have to do it every day but, just tell me pages that are in DIRE need of images. Asking for a favor, [[User:Record307|Record307]] 23:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, you can see that yourself if you visit the [[:Category:Articles Needing Images|Articles Needing Images category]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== OMG! ==
DUDE YOU ARE A SAVIOR! THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. I FINALLY HAVE A SIG! Just one question...
How to I use my sig?--{{User:Record307/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Look in your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] under "signature", and paste <nowiki>{{User:Record307/sig}}</nowiki> into the box. Make sure to check the little box for a raw signature. Cheers, {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did you follow my link at all? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah see {{User:Record307/sig}} 01:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Awesome, man. Just, awesome. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Side note to this...is it acceptable to use a signature icon of someone's who hasn't been active on the site in over a year? [[User:Son|Son]] 05:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::I saw a user who's been inactive since November 2007 (methinks) with a Steal Your Face. I left a note on the user's talk page, so you can check in my recent contributions to see it. I'd like to use it, if that's considered kosher. [[User:Son|Son]] 05:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Cricket Helmet ==
Hi, I dunno if you saw it, but I was hoping you could clarify your answer on the image talk page. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.94|132.183.151.94]] 15:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== The recent block warning ==

I can't tell any change between the post you did and the way MichaelXX2 "fixed" it for you. Can you explain the difference, just for the sake of someone unfamiliar with wiki syntax? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.140|132.183.140.140]] 23:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. when putting "subst:" before a template, it will replace, or SUBSTitute, the template call for the actual code contained therein. For example, if i have a template named "example" that contains "This is a sample template", if i were to write "<nowiki>{{example}}</nowiki>" somewhere, then when i go to edit the page, it'll still say "<nowiki>{{example}}</nowiki>" in that spot on the edit page. If i wrote "<nowiki>{{subst:example}}</nowiki>" instead, it would instead have "This is a sample template" written. Outwardly, the pages would look identical, only in the code does it matter. I hope that answers your question, cause i don't know how to make it any clearer. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::That was clear, thanks a lot. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.140|132.183.140.140]] 23:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::What I don't get is why you reverted it, considering that [[:Template:blockwarning|using "subst" is Wiki policy.]] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Feel free to ask me privately. And i don't consider that instruction sheet to be "policy". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, reverting it myself was my mistake. Looking back on it, you're not supposed to edit people's talk page posts unless they're breaking the page, contain foul language, or similar. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Thank youuu ==

I saw that crappy and unfunny vandalism that somebody did on a certain page. Thanx for reverting it. THAT was just an eyesore. If somebody's gonna vandalize the least they can do is make irt clever and funny. --[[User:Sonicstar Runner|Sonicstar Runner]] 23:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:That's my job, defending the wiki, defending the policies of the wiki, defending my friends, defending my family, defending good programming practices... But i guess now i'm just rambling... Sooo.... yeah. '''Vandals:''' 0 '''''[[User:DeFender1031|DeFender]]'':'' [[User:DeFender1031|1031]]''''' 23:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== kinda funny... ==

Do the proximity of [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peeing&curid=31657&diff=628896&oldid=628891 these] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fourth_Wall_Breaks&curid=3841&diff=628898&oldid=628875 three] [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Peeing&diff=next&oldid=628747 edits] seem a little ironic to you..? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.187|132.183.151.187]]
:I'm unsure of the connection you're trying to make... and by "unsure" i really mean "no freaking clue". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::Just that you accused the edit summary of "No" of being vague. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 02:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::You are correct of course, i'm guilty of it too. I wasn't complaining about the summary per se, i was just asking for a clarification. Everyone makes vague summaries sometimes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Congratulations!! ==

You have won a triple Lappy email praising/Teen Girl Squad/Cheat Commandos award!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry if the Cheat Commandos image is too small.

[[Image:Superaward.jpg]]

This is the award.

== Different opinion ==
Yeah, so I thought I made a valuable contribution to the Homestar email toon article, I even went through the legwork of doing the necessary research to make everything authentic. Boy was I cheesed off to see it deleted within seconds! It took me a few days to do the trackdown, and it pointed to you. I was REALLY cheesed off until I went to your home page, and then I saw why you deleted said additions. I thought my contributions were significant. Heck, I never write ANYTHING online without first considering if it will be worthwhile or just internet poop, whether this note be a Facebook note or a blog. But after reading your page on what you think good content is, especially regarding pop culture references, I understood why you removed them. Yes, I will stand by my post. I still think it was important information. But I've had limited exposure to pop culture as a whole, so it's likely that the information I supplied could be found in a hundred places. And you feel that a reference to a concept (a reference that can come from a dozen sources) is unnecessary to mention. I agree. It just hurt to see my first post wiped out in seconds. --[[User:Bauerman24|Bauerman24]] 04:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure what edit you're referring to, as you seem to have not made any edits with your account before this one, but i assure you that i meant no offense by reverting. For a long time I've said that we need a mechanism to revert edits while still letting people know that their contributions are welcome, but unfortunately such a thing would be tedious and annoying to do, as we often get anonymous users who make one-time edits that aren't worth keeping. But anyway, would you mind clarifying to which edit you are referring? Whatever it is, i'd be glad to discuss it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I did the edit before I had a real account, so I just showed up as an IP [I KNEW you were going to look! haha]. The address WAS [[97.89.178.220]]. Probably the last one, but I don't know how to link to the history page or anything. I'm still new to this whole "edit-a-wiki" thing.

Like I said, I read why you remove posts like mine [even though I didn't know I was referring to common phenomena at the time]. I can't stand wasteful or poorly-written posts. I've edited a fair share of run-on sentence posts. So, thank you for keeping your wiki cleaned up and informative. These things can get bloated with junk fast.

Thanks for being understanding about it. I don't expect to see my work back up. In fact, I'd prefer it stay down, in the interest of an accurate, more concise wiki. Again, thanks for understanding and reading my concerns. I only hope that I can contribute some useful information to this wiki in the future. --[[User:Bauerman24|Bauerman24]] 04:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== strong sad ==

Make a Strong Sad fanstuffy thing! "Each day we die a little more" is awesome! --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 05:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:I sorta got to a point in my life where i actually HAVE a life, so i haven't done any of those for a while... I had nearly forgotten about them actually. At one point i was planning on doing some of my favorite extended monologues and quotes with them, but unfortunately, life intruded. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Signature ==

How did you get your signature to be that cool? --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously]] 15:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:He's awesome like that.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 16:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::Which aspect specifically? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I want the gradient affect like in your siggy. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously!]] [[User talk:Fangoriously|Chat]] 19:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I have a script that i wrote that does it. If you tell me the colors you want and what text to use, i can generate a code for you. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I want pink to purple, with the text "Fangoriously!" My talk page link ("Chat") can just be red. --[[User:Fangoriously|Fangoriously!]] [[User talk:Fangoriously|Chat]] 00:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::You used a script? Dang, I had to go Google and search for all the HTML color codes individually... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::For Fangoriously: How's this? Fangoriously! (Chat) Personally i think the pink is too light at the beginning, so here it is again starting with dark pink. Fangoriously! (Chat) Which do you like better?
::::::For Guard Duck: I WROTE a script. Slightly different than merely using one. I am just THAT good. Seriously though, color codes aren't that hard to learn. Also, don't feel so bad. I did all the color calculations BY HAND for the first attempt at my sig, until i realized how helpful a script would be. I should really re-write it though, because though the code works and works perfectly, it's very messy code. Ideally, i should port it to javascript or something to make it available online. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You WROTE a script, well that's very impressive. Kudos to you for always being one step ahead. (Incredibly weak Homestar pun alert) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 01:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Can you write me a sig? I'll ''try'' to give you an award for it![[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 21:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Behind the black ==

You say what happens behind the black stays behind the black. In Flash file world, which is where the toons really are, what happens "behind the black" that you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is really in the beautiful field of white. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 00:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::I'm trying to say the toons are really only Flash files, and what you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is in the white, not behind the black. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 13:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Cute, but homestar says differently in [[flashback]]. But whatever you want to call it, the rule on the wiki is that we don't note "goofs" that are outside the frame and therefore don't appear in the html file, whatever you want to call it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:57, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Think of this another way. All the articles are written from the perspective of the html file, not the flash file. If something odd occurs "behind the black", it will not be visible when the html file is viewed and is therefore not a goof. Simply put, there's no reason whatsoever for the TBC to animate things that won't be seen in the html file anyway. So to avoid creating extra pointless work for themselves, they take shortcuts, like not bothering to put Strong Mad's mouth or Strong Bad's legs in. They are deliberate ommisions, not goofs, which is why we don't mention them unless they are ''very'' unusual. Also, you're not supposed to be watching the flash file anyway. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I am still wondering why they put in a RED MARK during Theme Song Video's Flash file at the pool scene. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 21:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Regardless of the reason why there happens to red mark offscreen, it is still nonetheless too mundane to be worth mentioning in the article. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== No Longer Useful Images ==

Is it OK if I go through [[Special:Unusedimages|Unused Images]] and add not useful images to [[User:DeFender1031/ISC/No Longer Useful]] for you? I'll even try to update templates used on the images themselves and on the lists linked from [[User:DeFender1031/ISC]]. Although [[User talk:The Chort/Archive#Abandoning other users.27 images|I was once told]] by It's Dot Com that "we don't delete images simply because they're not being used", but this just seems like being lazy to me. I mean, if they're never going used ever again, what's the point in keeping them? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:Well, that's exactly the point of that page... i was gonna wait till it was fuller before calling too much attention to it. Anyway, the point is to put images that are unused AND in no way homestar-related, not just unused as those could have a concievable use in the future. I wouldn't mind you adding images such as those there, just please keep them in alphabetical order. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::You're marking things as done when they are still missing headers and stuff... The point of this project is to clean up the summaries of image pages, not to get rid of abandoned personal images, that's the side point. Changing personal images to abandoned personal images is not part of this project at all. To clarify, I don't mind pages that have not been cleaned up and given good summaries and headers being put on the no longer useful page, i ''DO'' mind pages that have not been cleaned up and given good summaries and headers being marked as done. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Yikes, I've really screwed up this time. Ok, maybe I should just stick to compiling the list of No Longer Useful Images and leave everything else alone? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::::It's alright, no biggie. If you want to cleanup the pages as you go on, that's fine with me, just make sure you're actually doing it. This was actually helpful, as it showed me that i wasn't descriptive enough when talking about what this project entails. I'm gonna add a checklist to the page that should help. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::I've just remembered, this wiki already has a list of abandoned personal images that probably have no use whatsoever to the wiki. [[:Category:Personal images abandoned|This page]] does pretty much exactly the same thing as No Longer Useful, except it shows you the images themselves and works automatically thanks to the personal-image-abandoned template. Would it be easier just to use that page? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm aware of that page, however my page is slightly different. While there is much overlap, not all abandoned personal images are no longer useful (some could be screenshots from HR, which we should keep) and not all no longer useful images are abandoned personal images (such as if something similar to [[:Image:bat-climb.jpg]] were left over somewhere). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== 2AnswerYourMAM? ==

I did it because obviously SB likes to prank call Marzipan so putting in a Subsection would be better so you can actually see when he was Prank Calling and when he was doing something else on the Machine. [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 02:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC) The Same Person who made the sublist edit ):

== Spamer ==
DeFender, I think we have a spamming user in this wiki, I tried starting a talk page of [[Sbemailiarized!]] wondering if it was a promo for 2009's batch of Sbemails and Hremails, but some guy whose user idenity was not shown said that it was a compent about sbemails and that there would be no more hremails, and it got the page deleted. [[User:MICGAGUH]]

== Plz ==

i'm want do good edits stop of undo my edits becouse is so dumb undo my edits [[User:Lucsar|Lucsar]] 20:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, the way things work here is community consensus. you can't just make edits that you feel are right and expect them not to be reverted when the community has already decided on something. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== Request ==
Hey Def. Can you make me a sig...i have no idea how to do it, and ive seen some of your work. I really "appreceat" it. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 15:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:Well, I'm afraid that in the vast sea of sig possibilities, there are many sig fishes... you need to be a bit more descriptive as to what kind of sig you want... what colors? fonts? pictures? power doors? rear deck for dinner and dancing? a proboscis? Let me know and i'll see what i can do. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::Well im kinda partial to the color green. So anything other than Baby puke. If you have the Doom [[Font]] (Which you can get in the fonts menu) thatd be good. And i guess the pixalated [[Stinkoman]] from [[Stinkoman 20X6]] would be cool. If your allowed animated stuff for the sig then i guess a running stinko would be kool. Thanks for helpin out. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 18:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== "'I Say it Looks Bad' Won't Help Resolve This" ==

The reason I think that is that one can easily argue against it by saying, "I say it looks good" and most of the time I have no idea whose opinion is more valid, especially since neither of us is a sysop. I won't be surprised or ashamed if writing this has no affect on how you argue. I just had to explain [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad%27s_Cool_Game_for_Attractive_People&diff=prev&oldid=644082 this summary] in a place where it would fit. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding "How talk pages work" ==

Um, if no one's allowed to remove incorrect information, you should tell that to IDC [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:FAQ&diff=637045&oldid=637004]. -[[Special:Contributions/170.223.0.55|170.223.0.55]] 22:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:That talk page is a special case. Its purpose is not for the discussion of the corresponding project page or of any article, but is a help desk. Anyone replying to a question on that page is in a sense taking it upon themselves to speak for the wiki, and there are ways to do that and ways not to. In the case you cite, the reply was not only patently false but rude to boot. Rather than strike out or simply contradict the incorrect response, it was better just to remove it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::I see. -[[Special:Contributions/170.223.0.54|170.223.0.54]] 23:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Speaking to {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Where_U_Goin%27_2%3F&diff=prev&oldid=645429 the issue we're actually talking about}}, our guidelines state that one should "not remove posts from a talk page unless ... there is a clear, compelling reason the post must be removed." Trying to avoid confusion by removing something you yourself said in error is probably okay, if it's caught fast enough (and I think eight minutes is fast enough). On the other hand, the comments are benign enough that it's also probably okay for your comment and DeFender's reply to stand as they are (with nothing being struck out). I think it was unnecessary for him to revert you once you had removed it, but now that it's back it doesn't need to be removed a second time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry 2 ==

The "did you even check" wasn't aimed at you. I was attempting to revert with an edit and, for whatever reason, it didn't give me an edit conflict when you did the same. Sorry 'bout that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Oh... heh... i thought the summary looked out of place... No harm done. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Accidentally made a page ==
can you delete http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Cheat_Commandos_2_Part_Episode:_Part_2 ? i made it without realising there arleady was a page.

== Strong Bad and The King of Town's Relationship ==

In your edit summary, you said, "yeah, we tend to specifically NOT bypass redirects with pipes for several reasons." What does this mean? like, what is a pipe? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:"|" is a pipe. in wiki terms "pipe" is short for "piped link". a piped link is a link in the form "<nowiki>[[link|link text]]</nowiki>". We generally prefer linking to redirects where they exist over piping to avoid them for a variety of reasons. Hope that helps. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::that makes sense, but i still don't know any of the reasons haha. i mean, i can think of one: in case a page is fairly long, doing that would help somewhat with the byte count, but that's the only thing i can think of. i hate to make you try to tell me a long list, but maybe a few others? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 00:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Byte count shmyte count... roughly 50,000+12=roughly 50,000. That's not the issue. There was a [[HRWiki talk:Standards#(Don't Fear) The Redirect|discussion]] on it some time back. The biggest reason is if there's a link to something that redirects to a section on a larger page, but could be made its own page eventually, the link wouldn't need to be changed, the redirect would just be made into a full page and viola, now your page links where it's supposed to. (That doesn't really apply to "X" vs. "The X" but meh.) Other reasons include that it looks better in the page source without the pipe, and that if people click on a link to one thing, it makes sense to have a little notice at the top saying why they got another. (Also doesn't REALLY apply in the case of "X" vs. "The X", but i'm a stickler for consistency.) That said, it probably doesn't matter SO much in this case, and wasn't really worth the extra couple of edits either way, but like i said, i like consistency. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::::haha okay that works. what i was thinking was if you had several on the same page, that would end up multiplying. Those make more sense; thanks. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 01:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
==Main Page 24==
Did you see my edit summary? i was running out of room, so [[other days|i had to abbreve everything]]. it should have said: "yes i saw that afterwards and decided not to revert myself b/c the remark seems to suggest otherwise as it is. the explanation is thorough, but since there's only one shirt subject tbc didn't invent, and because the remark suggests the shirts would be clear, i think it should be in both places." i know we typically don't put information in two different places on the same page, and i could understand if there was just the one asterisk instead of two, but as it stands, the remark suggests that everything is unblurred when that is just not the case. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:From the "Button Effects" section:
:*'''[[Store]]''' — Glasses are placed on the viewer, allowing for better vision. Homestar's shirts are still blurred.
:Hence, there is no reason to add it to the remark. Further, the remark says you can watch the OTHER animations unblurred. It does not imply in any way that the shirt will be unblurred, especially when the button effect says explicitly otherwise. Lastly, this type of thing goes better on the talk page of the article in question, rather than a user talk. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::(1)I am officially blind for (a)not seeing that you said that (b)not seeing that it was in button effects. (2)ok i see your point now (3)i just figured you would see it faster on your talk page than on the page's talk page. and since you reverted me twice, i decided to ask you instead of anybody. i haven't been reverted this much (not just this; it's happened a lot lately) since before i created an account. maybe i need a [[vacation]]. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That's all perfectly alright. No hard feelings. :) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== Recent Changes Patrol Talk ==
Hi DeFender:
I see you edited my question on recent changes talk page. I specifically said in the summary that no one should replace the question because I saw seven other people saying and asking the same thing. I just wanted to save some space. Thanks! {{User:Mas12806/sig}} 18:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's fine. Proper procedure is still to make a new section for new questions, and not to remove old ones. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pipe Nazi ==

hey i saw that u called urself this on the standards page i just thot i woud tell u that that phrase may be offensive to jews so maybe u should not use it as much anyway have a nice day
:Maybe you should check out his user page. There are plenty of hints for what I'm getting at, but I'd say the second userbox is the best one. (Edit: It's actually been pointed out to me that there's an even better one.) Just a thought. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Template help ==

I decided, since I'm in a little bit of a template issue, that I may as well take you up on your offer. After all, you've [[User:DeFender1031/sig|obviously]] shown us that you are an expert with MediaWiki markup and especially ParserFunctions. I'm trying to import a [[Wikipedia:Template:User wiki lang-2| MediaWiki language userbox]] (how ironic), and I'm trying to make the font size the same (11pt). However, using a <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> element in the <code>code</code> parameter to down the font size didn't work. There is no pipe in the parameter, and I even entity'd the curly brackets (the user box code is "<nowiki>{{Wiki}}</nowiki>"). Is it the equals sign for the style attribute? Will I need to work out some ParserFunctions in the [[Template:userbox|userbox]] template as to fix the problem and specify a font size? Or am I just missing/forgetting something?

Here's my code: 
<code><nowiki>
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
</nowiki></code> {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 17:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
Your code looks fine to me. Is there some problem i'm missing? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:The left side of the original userbox is in 11pt font. On my side it doesn't appear to be in that font size. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|{{Wiki}}]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
::This is the same userbox with the font in 11, 20, and 50, respectively. Seem like it's working right. Perhaps you want to pick a smaller font size than 11? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I just realized the font size is actually 9pts. Oops. And, also, bolding the text...
{|
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code='''<nowiki>{{Wiki}}</nowiki>'''|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}}
|}
:::That still doesn't look right. I think I'll mess around with this in the sandbox after taking a look at Wikipedia's userbox template and ours, and come back from eating some pizza. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Aside from the link on "intermediate" and the bold and link on "MediaWiki", it looks exactly the same to me. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. I think I'll just leave it alone for now and go with what I have (though you can barely read it, since I wanted it to fit in 45 pixels!). I have another question. I would like to put a ParserFunction into my signature that'll get rid of the link to my talk page if someone's on my talk pages (well, what will become pages in 2010). Similar to your signature and how "Talk" is replaced by "Me". This is the code I'm trying:

<code>
<nowiki>
{{#ifexpr: {{BASEPAGENAME}}="SoiledBargains" and {{ns:User talk}}||[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>}}
</nowiki>
</code>

I'm getting the error, '''Expression error: Unrecognised word "soiled"'''. And I'm not too sure if I'm using the right magic word for this. What advice do you have? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 16:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's cause you want <nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|User talk:Soiled Bargains|[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]|}}</nowiki> {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::But, that's the thing. I'd like for it to (if possible) effect any talk archives that I will have as well. Would it be best just to make it a <code><nowiki>{{#switch}}</nowiki></code> ParserFunction? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably a series of ifeqs and ands in an ifexpr. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== Help!!!!!!! ==

Can you help me with a custom sig? [[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 01:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. What do you want it to look like? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::Like yours, only orange to white. With H-h-h-homsar on each sidefacing the words, if possible. Am I asking too much? [[User:Espemon333|-Espe Pwnage]] 02:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:::So... like this?
:::[[File:homsar evolution current.png|13px|Espe Pwnage!]][[User:Espemon333|'''Espemon333''']][[File:homsar evolution current.png|13px|Espe Pwnage!]]
:::{{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::::AIEE!!!!! YES!!!!!!! THANKS YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! {{unsigned|Espemon333|15:55, 21 August 2009}}
:::::How do I use it? Like, use it when I use the wonkijog's? (~) -Espemon333
::::::In your preferences, for "signature" put <nowiki>{{User:Espemon333/sig}}</nowiki> and make sure "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" is checked. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

==[[User:Starteen|Starteen]]==
Hello, I think the problem with customizing my sig is because I come from a wiki hosted by Wikia and it's a bit different there with the whole sig thing.--[[User:Starteen|Starteen]] 23:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's alright. Seems like you have it mostly working now. It looks good. See ya around the wiki. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

==A bit of help==

Hey, could you help me figure out the IRC channels? I've gotten as far as actually logging on but after that... i'm just... stuck. -{{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 00:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, me too! {{User:Espemon333/sig}} 01:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::To MMM, I see you joined the channel and left it a couple of times earlier... looks like you were there and no one was talking. Once you get to the channel, you can like... type stuff... and then hit enter... and then other people will see it and if they're around, they might type back... but if they don't type back immediately, don't get impatient and leave because then people will see it a few minutes later and think "wow, that guy was impatient". So yeah... that's all i can tell you unless you have a more specific question. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Invisicble ==

Why is it policy to make the sic's inviso? Isn't it useful for the reader to be able to see 'em? (Not disputing it, just asking in general) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.122|132.183.151.122]] 19:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure it's POLICY, but it's what we generally do in transcripts and direct representations of content, as it's less intrusive if it's invisible in those places. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not meaning to come down one way or the other on this matter myself, but I do want to note there was a fairly lengthy debate on this very matter a few years ago in the [[HRWiki talk:Manual of Style#Sic|talk page to the Manual of Style]]. While it doesn't seem clear that any consensus was really arrived at, the wording in the [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling|Manual of Style]], as it currently stands, seems to suggest visibility (at least, it does recommend adding the "[''sic'']", and doesn't say anything about making it invisible). Maybe this is a matter that ought to be reopened? (Or not...) —[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 19:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Consensus or not, policy or not, invisible or not, my talk page isn't the place to have this discussion anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Sorry. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what do you suggest I should have done? I'm not the one who started the discussion, but I thought it was worth pursuing... but I see your point that this wasn't the place for it. Would it have been better had I brought the discussion to the [[Talk:dictionary|dictionary Talk page]], since that's presumably the article the original poster was referring to? Or should I have just stayed out of it entirely? Again, sorry if this is a stupid question--I'm not trying to be ironic or intentionally obtuse; I really don't have that much wiki editing experience, and I'm honestly wondering what the more appropriate course of action would have been here.—[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ah, i see you misunderstood. Asking me about the edit here on my talk page was fine. Continuing the discussion and bringing the extra background information and topic history is also fine. Suggesting that this discussion be revitalized is fine too. In fact, there was nothing that was not fine. All i meant was that if we do reopen the matter, this isn't the place for it. It should be done on a more public talk page, like standards or manual of style, either of which would be fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Picking up the old discussion at the link above is probably appropriate. Nothing's really changed since then to make the previous discussion obsolete. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ah, OK, thanks; yeah, I did misunderstand. And apparently I was unclear with what I wrote, since I didn't mean I thought the discussion would be reopened ''here''—I figured if it was going to be reopened, it would be on the Manual of Style talk page where it had been before, but perhaps I should have been more explicit about that.—[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

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Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:25:36 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Invisicble */

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Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:41:43 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Invisicble */ Whoops... forgot to sign my comment.

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Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:40:19 GMT

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Talk:Flashforward

Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:26:05 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Geeks and...what now? */

==Cleanup==
I made some edits to the transcript using the DVD, but it still needs to be expanded a little and double checked. Also, someone (probably TBird) needs to list any changes that for sure are different between the original and the DVD version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

:Shpping to Canada may take a while, but as soon as my copy arrives I'll do what I can. Feel free to clean it up however you wish in the meantime. The only thing I've got up on you is my visual memories, which aren't really that photographic, especially eight months later. You can probably note the obvious audio differences as well as I can. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

==Disambiguation==

''This article is about the [[Toons|toon]] For other uses, see [[Flashforward (disambiguation)]].''

Or...

''This article is about the [[Toons|toon]]. For the other uses, see [[Flashforward (disambiguation)]].''

Is there some grammatical rule that picks the right disambiguation? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Or, basically, do we have a non-the <nowiki>{{for}}</nowiki> template? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I think they are ''both'' grammatical, and "for other uses" is what is used at WP, so I like that one. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

:::To answer Dorian's question, yes, we do have a non-the <nowiki>{{for}}</nowiki> template: {{tl|for-nothe}}. (Psst... don't forget to check the [[:Category:For Disambiguation Templates|category]] for more exciting answers to more exciting questions.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

== Geeks and...what now? ==

I just got the Everything Elses a month or so ago, so my apologies for being about three years late on this comment. On watching the short, I was thinking that Homestar was saying either "nerds" or "nords", and quite possibly, Matt had intended to sound like ''both'' words. "Nords" would fit, as we are talking about MMOs, and Nord is a common class or race in RPGs, both tabletop and PC. Is it possible we could add a footnote mentioning the discrepancy to the transcript? I don't want to be too '''bold''' and do it myself, but if no one argues, I probably will.
--{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 18:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
*Er, hey, what now? I'm a long-term tabletop RPG player, own loads of RPG sourcebooks, and I can't recall any class or race called a "Nord" in any RPG I'm familiar with. Now, I'm not into the MMORPG scene, and it's possible there's a race or class called a "Nord" in one or more of those, but as far as tabletop RPGs, no, it's most certainly ''not'' a common class or race. Can you name a tabletop RPG such a class or race appears prominently in? (Not saying no such RPG exists, but it's not one I'm familiar with... and I'm certainly familiar with all the big ones.) -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 19:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
**Okay, just did some Googling, and in a(n admittedly fairly quick and uncomprehensive) Google search the only RPG I can find that has any class or race called a "Nord" is the ''[[Wikipedia: Races of The Elder Scrolls#Nord|Elder Scrolls]]'' series of computer games. Which is specific enough that it seems ''very'' unlikely any reference was intended. So, no, I definitely am against adding any footnote about this; the fact that there happens to be a race called a "nord" in a single PC RPG series isn't grounds for assuming that just because Homestar pronounces a word slightly oddly it's some sort of obscure reference. --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 19:26, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Flashforward

Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:13:55 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Geeks and...what now? */ Huh?

because, as it were

Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:43:02 GMT

Alun Clewe: Fixed misspelling: payed -> paid

[[Image:because, as it were.png|300px|thumb|"I just... don't think I can handle... eating this... asparagus."]]

'''''because, as it were''''' is an [[Wikipedia:Independent film|independent film]] by [[Strong Sad]], clips of which are shown in the [[Strong Bad Email]] "[[independent]]". Strong Sad has proudly declared it the world's first "faux-budget" film; it was financed entirely with [[Wikipedia:Monopoly (game)|Monopoly]] money. The film's strange title is an excerpt from a sentence displayed in its first scene:

<blockquote>
If not for inspiration, to 
wit, because, as it were, only 
begotten from greed, whosoever 
would make its plaintiff clear. 
 -Nobody U. Know 
 (deceased)
</blockquote>

The film appears to be very experimental, and is shot in black and white on a hand-held film camera. It features a bizarre soundtrack that Strong Sad made himself by weeping softly into the wrong end of a saxophone. The film's plot, if it can be called one, is extremely vague. There appear to be some recurring symbols, such as jigsaw puzzle pieces and a dead potted plant, but their significance and meanings are unknown. The only apparent character is played by [[Homestar Runner]], who was paid 21 dollars of Monopoly money by Strong Sad. Homestar's character apparently doesn't think he can handle eating a piece of asparagus.

Once finished, ''because, as it were'' had a single 8:00 pm showing at the house of a man named Art. This was apparently followed by Strong Sad whining.

Strong Sad's previous attempts at experimental filmmaking were shown in [[Experimental Film]] and [[Sbemail 150?!?]].

==See Also==
*''[[city (comma) state]]''

[[Category:Movies]]

dictionary

Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:31:58 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Today's Entries */ Square brackets, not angle

{{sbenav|204}}
[[File:dictionary.png|thumb|Fo' My Own Words!]]
Strong Bad talks about his very own dictionary.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Shut Up, Lady|Lady]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The Stage]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[Basement of The Brothers Strong]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Movie Theater]] (Easter egg), [[Strong Badia]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compé}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, September 1, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:48

'''Page Title:''' Compy Compé

==Transcript==
''{Strong Bad is at the Compé, this time with a Where's An Egg? II wallpaper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, people can you feel me? To e-mail me? Also, please don't try to really feel me. ''{double-clicks on the strongabad_email.exe icon}''

{{compeemail|1=
Dear Strong Bad, 
You are the superest, awesomest guy ever. That 
makes you sawesome. Do you have a Strong Badian 
dictionary fo your own words? 
Sincerely Yours, 
Costrick
}}
''{"fo" is pronounced as written. Strong Bad hesitates a little when saying "Costrick"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Course I do Cross-stitch. ''{rapping}'' You think the regular dictionary can handle all the quotient quotables I'm droppin' on a daily basis? Those dictionaries are only good for helping ''{cut to a scene of The Cheat in the bathroom, standing on two dictionaries, and brushing his teeth}'' The Cheat brush his teeth ''{cut to a scene outside in The Field, Homestar walking in frame right}'' and helping Homestar lose his teeth.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hurl!

''{Strong Bad throws the dictionary at Homestar's head}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Tooth! ''{a giant tooth flies out of Homestar's mouth and lands on the ground. Homestar leans over to look at it}''

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' For something this sawesome, I had to once again call upon the finest name in names to put in front of book titles. And thus was born unto the world, ''{cut to a close up of the book}'' ''Count Longardeaux's Strong Badian Jerktionary Fo' My Own Words!''

''{Strong Bad puts a [[sticky note]] on the book}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quickly}'' Or ''Count Longardeaux's Strong Badian talkwords for saying from your mouth'', for short.

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' We all know the main problem with dictionaries is that there are too many words, and not enough butterscotch sauce! So I went ahead and dribble-drabbled a little boodroscotch all over it. Kinda like a frou frou dessert ''{cut to a slow zoom of the book on a plate, drizzled with sauce; music is playing in the background}'' at a chichi restaurant, restaurant.

'''OLD LADY:''' Oh, that looks sinfully—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{record scratch}'' Shut up, shut up, lady! The sauce makes the pages stick together—

''{Cut to a scene with Strong Sad trying to read the sauce covered book, flipping pages back and forth}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' which makes for way less words!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey, this dictionary goes straight from "crap-valanche" to "puke-valanche"!

''{Cut to a close-up of the book, this time opened to the "Suffix" section}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And that brings us to the Suffix section. ''{each "suffix" is highlighted in turn}'' -valanche, -quake, -rnado, -onsoon.

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing behind the butterscotch covered book}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All the great natural disaster suffixes are included!

''{Cut to a sample from the book}''

'''NARRATOR:''' ''{smoothly}'' This suckquake of a movie is a complete wastenado of my seven bucksonsoon.

''{Diamond wipe to Strong Bad smiling in front of many colored lines, disco music playing in the background}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now ''that's'' talking like a Strong Bad dude!

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' For some words, words alone are not enough to define them. That's why my dictionary has scratch n' sniff stickers!! I mean, how are you gonna define a word like ''{cut to Strong Bad opening the book to the P's}'' paunch, without smelling ''{Strong Bad puts a sticker with a Strong Sad caricature that reads "Paunch it up!"}'' Strong Sad's considerable paunch!

''{Cut to Strong Sad in his room, arms akimbo, angrily standing in front of the open book}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' My paunch does not smell! ''{Strong Sad slaps his body to punctuate the last words}''

''{Cut to all the main characters gathered on The Stage}''

'''ALL:''' Yes it does!

''{Crowd claps and the curtain closes}''

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Not to be outdone by that no-talent schwa sound, the Strong Badian Dictionary features several gutteral utterances, or you guessed it ''{Cut to a "Family Feud" display which already reads "Zsa Zsa" and "Kneepads". A quick scale is heard when "Gutterences" is revealed, followed by a buzzer}'' gutterences ''{cut back to the Compé}'' that are used to express complete disinterest in specific people.

''{Cut to Strong Bad twirling a football, screen right in the locker room. Coach Z enters screen left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' There's the "pffgh!" sound ''{tattered piece of paper comes down}'' for Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong B'd! Wanna hear about my glory days on the fierld?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pffgh!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The "aungh!" sound ''{Strong Bad remains in the same place, but the scenery changes to a fenced area, with Marzipan holding Carol and standing in front of a microphone}'' for Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{amplified}'' Wanna hear my cover of "Glory Days"?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aungh!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And of course, the ever popular ''{scene shift again, this time to the Basement of the Brothers Strong, with Strong Sad sitting on the couch}'' "graaauuughnck!!" sound for you-know-who.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Talk?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Graaauuughnck!!

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' In order to keep the power of the Strong Badian language from falling into the hands of lesser minds, I've built booby-traps right into the dictionary. Nothing gets rid of Homestar for a few hours like an endless "see also" loop.

''{Cut to Homestar, looking fatigued, and wearing night clothes, reading the dictionary at night in the kitchen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' "Crap for brains", see also "carp for brains". See also "brain for brains". See also "crap for brains". See also— Man, this is the best choose my own adventure I've ever play-read!

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And there you have it Caustic. The Strong Badian dictionary. From A:ab-abber to Z:zawesome. ''{quickly}'' Available where ever fine made up reference books are sold. ''{normally}'' Oh! And speaking of, The Cheat's probably done brushing his teeth now. Better go see if ''someone'' can go pee-pees in um potty all by hwimswelf. Ugh! The Cheat training... what're ya gonna do?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Give him the goods, Compé...-per.

''{Strong Bad gets up, making [[The Geddup Noise]], and the [[Compé-per]] appears. Crossfades to a dictionary page entitled "Today's Entries".}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Clicking on "Cross-Stitch" at the beginning brings up a [[needlepoint]] picture of Strong Bad.
* Clicking the V in the school play scene brings up a [[Playbill]] advertising "Yes it does".
* At the end, click "Broodroscotch" to see some broodroscotch fall on the word. Click it again to see it disappear.
* At the end, click "raspberry sauce" to see a scene of Homsar in Strong Badia.
:'''HOMSAR:''' ''{holding the book titled "Learn to Speak Strong Badian"; his hat floats off while he speaks}'' GrRrRraaauuughnck there, Rubbermaid, can you redirect me to the nearest Puke-valanche?
:''{The Tire bounces away.}''
* At the end, click "hwimswelf" to see a scene of Homestar in the movie theater.
:'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{wearing his viking helmet}'' This suckquake of a movie is a total wastenado of my seven bucks-forest fire.
*Click on the Sawesome Jack sticker to see an extension of the Family Feud scene.
:''{"Onion Bubs" is added to the "Family Feud" display from before for 51 points. Music plays and the audience cheers, with one voice screaming "Onion Bubs!" repeatedly.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Today's Entries===
* '''broodroscotch ''n.-''''' a sweet, boodro-based sauce that doubles as a kudrow-based adhesive.
* '''dribble-drabble ''v.-''''' the act of making frozen cheescake [''sic''] appear delicious by scribbling raspberry sauce over it.
* '''gutterances ''n.-''''' low growly noises made to express utter disdain at another person's very existence.
* '''hwimswelf ''n.-''''' The Cheat's carpet & couch and satin sheets ruining owndangself.
* '''sawesome ''adj.-''''' not unlike having the qualities of an awesome sauce.
* '''zawesome ''adj.-''''' see crap-for-brains.

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:quotient|quotient]] is the result of a [[wikipedia:division (mathematics)|division]] operation.
*[[Wiktionary: frou-frou|Frou frou]] (usually spelled with a dash) means fancy. [[Wiktionary:Chichi|Chichi]] means trendy or chic. Both words are derived from [[French]].

===Trivia===
*The natural disaster suffixes Strong Bad mentioned are for "avalanche", "earthquake", "tornado", "monsoon", and "forest fire".

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad himself can be seen behind Pom Pom when the main characters protest that Strong Sad's "paunch smells." His body is even moving, indicating that he is saying "Yes it does."
*When Homestar flips from "crap-for-brains" to "carp-for-brains", he flips from near the end of the dictionary to near the beginning, even though both words start with C. He looks up "brain-for-brains" near the end of the dictionary as well. Also, when he flips from one section to another, one section has a "C" on the page, and the other has a "P", just as it did in the Strong Sad scene.
*There is a double-space between "little" and "boodroscotch", and between "droppin'" and "on".
*Although the suffix "-rnado" is shown, the narrator and Homestar use it without the "r" when they say "wastenado."
*The suffix "-onsoon" (hinting at [[Wikipedia:Monsoon|monsoon]]) does not fit in the list because monsoon is actually not considered to be a natural disaster.
*Coach Z's body (from his [[Coach Z Evolution|sixth design]]) is hidden in the Flash File.

===Goofs===
[[File:glovegoof.png|thumb|right|Disconnected Again?]]
*Strong Bad doesn't type the "a" in "droppin' on ''a'' daily basis."
*In the definition for "boodroscotch", the word "that" is repeated.
*The Back button leads to the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons menu]], instead of the [[Strong Bad Email menu]].
*When Strong Bad puts his left hand on his dictionary, his left arm and hand is down, but a boxing glove can be seen held up. Also, when his left hand is on the dictionary, a small area of his left hand (on his left arm) can be seen.
*In the definition for "dribble-drabble", the third "e" in "cheesecake" is missing (though it's possible this was intentional in order to fit the whole definition in two lines).

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's desktop appears to advertise a sequel to [[Where's an Egg?]]
*One of the dictionaries The Cheat is seen standing on is labeled "Thick n' Nasty DICTIONARY", a reference to the Thick n' Nasty burger seen in [[Blubb-O's Commercial]].
*This is another instance of [[Shut Up, Lady]]. Her quote "That looks sinful" directly reflects a quote in [[bottom 10]].
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] when saying "Now that's talkin' like a Strong Bad dude!"
*The music that plays in the Easter egg featuring The Movie Theater is from [[city (comma) state]].
*The entire email is about [[portmanteaus]].
*[[Count Longardeaux's Book|Count Longardeaux]] first appeared in [[record book]].
*[[Trivia Time]] appears again in Homestar's kitchen.
*Coach Z calls Strong Bad "[["man" pronounced as "m'n"|Strong B'd]]".
*The colored lines background previously appeared in [[Coach Z's 110%]].
*The email mentions "[[peeing|pee-pee]]", [[crap]], [[for brains]], [[Ab-Abber 2000|ab-abber]], and [[paunch]].
*The Sawsome Jack! sticker is labeled "Awesome Sauce", from [[funny]] and [[keep cool]].
*The sound clip of an audience cheering and an unseen character screaming "[[Onion Bubs]]!" repeatedly is taken directly from [[original]].
**The music which plays during this scene is from [[Main Page 19]].
*"Carp for brains" and "Brain for brains" are references to [[personal favorites]] and [[invisibility]], respectively.
*[[Homestar's teeth|Homestar's tooth]] falls out of his mouth.
*Strong Sad and Homsar mention a [[puking|Puke-valanche]].
*The "cross stitch" resembles [[Needlepoint]].
*On the scoreboard it mentions [[Team Kneepads]].
*The Cheat is mentioned to pee by his [[Own Dang X|owndangself]].
*Homsar's quote is similar to one by [[Senor Cardgage]] in [[fan club]].
*The "wastenado of my seven bucks-forest fire" remarks are similar to [[best/worst X bucks I ever spent]].
*The scene where all the characters appear on the stage to shout in unison is taken from [[rock opera]].
*Homestar remarks that the dictionary is the [[Best/Worst X ever|best choose my own adventure he's ever play-read]].

===Real-World References===
*"Quotient Quotables" is a reference to Potent Potables, a common category on [[Wikipedia:Jeopardy!|''Jeopardy!'']].
*The screen that pops up at "Gutterances" and "Onion Bubs" is a reference to the game show [[Wikipedia:Family Feud|Family Feud]]'s Fast Money Round. The screen also references actress [[Wikipedia:Zsa Zsa Gabor|Zsa Zsa Gabor]].
*"[[Wikipedia:Glory Days (song)|Glory Days]]" is a song written and performed by [[Wikipedia:Bruce Springsteen|Bruce Springsteen]].
*The "[[Wikipedia:Mumford High School (Michigan)|Mumford Phys. Ed. Dept.]]" T-shirt Homestar wears is the same design as the T-shirt worn by [[Wikipedia:Eddie Murphy|Eddie Murphy]] as Axel Foley in ''[[Wikipedia:Beverly Hills Cop|Beverly Hills Cop]]''.
*In the "Yes, it does" Easter egg, ''[[Wikipedia:Mr. Holland's Opus|Mr. Holland's Opus]]'' is mentioned.
*The symbols used by Strong Bad for different utterances are a parody of the [[Wikipedia:International Phonetic Alphabet|International Phonetic Alphabet]].
*The entry for "boodroscotch" references actress [[Wikipedia:Lisa Kudrow|Lisa Kudrow]]. "Kudrow-based adhesive" may be a reference to the film [[Wikipedia:Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion|Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion]]; in one scene Kudrow claims to have invented the formula for the adhesive on the back of Post-Its.
*Homestar's remarks during the "see also" loop makes reference to the [[Wikipedia:Choose Your Own Adventure|Choose Your Own Adventure]] books popular in the 1980s and 1990s.
*[[Wikipedia: Rubbermaid|Rubbermaid]] is a global marketer of consumer and commercial products including such well-known brands as Rubbermaid food storage, home organization, and refuse container products
*Sawesome Jack is a reference to Saucy Jack, a name signed by [[Wikipedia: Jack the Ripper|Jack the Ripper]], or the song about said man by [[Spinal Tap]].

==External Links==
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dictionary

Alun Clewe — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:04:18 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Goofs */

{{sbenav|204}}
[[File:dictionary.png|thumb|Fo' My Own Words!]]
Strong Bad talks about his very own dictionary.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Shut Up, Lady|Lady]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The Stage]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[Basement of The Brothers Strong]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Movie Theater]] (Easter egg), [[Strong Badia]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compé}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, September 1, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:48

'''Page Title:''' Compy Compé

==Transcript==
''{Strong Bad is at the Compé, this time with a Where's An Egg? II wallpaper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, people can you feel me? To e-mail me? Also, please don't try to really feel me. ''{double-clicks on the strongabad_email.exe icon}''

{{compeemail|1=
Dear Strong Bad, 
You are the superest, awesomest guy ever. That 
makes you sawesome. Do you have a Strong Badian 
dictionary fo your own words? 
Sincerely Yours, 
Costrick
}}
''{"fo" is pronounced as written. Strong Bad hesitates a little when saying "Costrick"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Course I do Cross-stitch. ''{rapping}'' You think the regular dictionary can handle all the quotient quotables I'm droppin' on a daily basis? Those dictionaries are only good for helping ''{cut to a scene of The Cheat in the bathroom, standing on two dictionaries, and brushing his teeth}'' The Cheat brush his teeth ''{cut to a scene outside in The Field, Homestar walking in frame right}'' and helping Homestar lose his teeth.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hurl!

''{Strong Bad throws the dictionary at Homestar's head}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Tooth! ''{a giant tooth flies out of Homestar's mouth and lands on the ground. Homestar leans over to look at it}''

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' For something this sawesome, I had to once again call upon the finest name in names to put in front of book titles. And thus was born unto the world, ''{cut to a close up of the book}'' ''Count Longardeaux's Strong Badian Jerktionary Fo' My Own Words!''

''{Strong Bad puts a [[sticky note]] on the book}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quickly}'' Or ''Count Longardeaux's Strong Badian talkwords for saying from your mouth'', for short.

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' We all know the main problem with dictionaries is that there are too many words, and not enough butterscotch sauce! So I went ahead and dribble-drabbled a little boodroscotch all over it. Kinda like a frou frou dessert ''{cut to a slow zoom of the book on a plate, drizzled with sauce; music is playing in the background}'' at a chichi restaurant, restaurant.

'''OLD LADY:''' Oh, that looks sinfully—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{record scratch}'' Shut up, shut up, lady! The sauce makes the pages stick together—

''{Cut to a scene with Strong Sad trying to read the sauce covered book, flipping pages back and forth}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' which makes for way less words!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey, this dictionary goes straight from "crap-valanche" to "puke-valanche"!

''{Cut to a close-up of the book, this time opened to the "Suffix" section}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And that brings us to the Suffix section. ''{each "suffix" is highlighted in turn}'' -valanche, -quake, -rnado, -onsoon.

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing behind the butterscotch covered book}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All the great natural disaster suffixes are included!

''{Cut to a sample from the book}''

'''NARRATOR:''' ''{smoothly}'' This suckquake of a movie is a complete wastenado of my seven bucksonsoon.

''{Diamond wipe to Strong Bad smiling in front of many colored lines, disco music playing in the background}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now ''that's'' talking like a Strong Bad dude!

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' For some words, words alone are not enough to define them. That's why my dictionary has scratch n' sniff stickers!! I mean, how are you gonna define a word like ''{cut to Strong Bad opening the book to the P's}'' paunch, without smelling ''{Strong Bad puts a sticker with a Strong Sad caricature that reads "Paunch it up!"}'' Strong Sad's considerable paunch!

''{Cut to Strong Sad in his room, arms akimbo, angrily standing in front of the open book}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' My paunch does not smell! ''{Strong Sad slaps his body to punctuate the last words}''

''{Cut to all the main characters gathered on The Stage}''

'''ALL:''' Yes it does!

''{Crowd claps and the curtain closes}''

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Not to be outdone by that no-talent schwa sound, the Strong Badian Dictionary features several gutteral utterances, or you guessed it ''{Cut to a "Family Feud" display which already reads "Zsa Zsa" and "Kneepads". A quick scale is heard when "Gutterences" is revealed, followed by a buzzer}'' gutterences ''{cut back to the Compé}'' that are used to express complete disinterest in specific people.

''{Cut to Strong Bad twirling a football, screen right in the locker room. Coach Z enters screen left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' There's the "pffgh!" sound ''{tattered piece of paper comes down}'' for Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong B'd! Wanna hear about my glory days on the fierld?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pffgh!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The "aungh!" sound ''{Strong Bad remains in the same place, but the scenery changes to a fenced area, with Marzipan holding Carol and standing in front of a microphone}'' for Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{amplified}'' Wanna hear my cover of "Glory Days"?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aungh!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And of course, the ever popular ''{scene shift again, this time to the Basement of the Brothers Strong, with Strong Sad sitting on the couch}'' "graaauuughnck!!" sound for you-know-who.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Talk?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Graaauuughnck!!

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' In order to keep the power of the Strong Badian language from falling into the hands of lesser minds, I've built booby-traps right into the dictionary. Nothing gets rid of Homestar for a few hours like an endless "see also" loop.

''{Cut to Homestar, looking fatigued, and wearing night clothes, reading the dictionary at night in the kitchen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' "Crap for brains", see also "carp for brains". See also "brain for brains". See also "crap for brains". See also— Man, this is the best choose my own adventure I've ever play-read!

''{Cut back to the Compé}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And there you have it Caustic. The Strong Badian dictionary. From A:ab-abber to Z:zawesome. ''{quickly}'' Available where ever fine made up reference books are sold. ''{normally}'' Oh! And speaking of, The Cheat's probably done brushing his teeth now. Better go see if ''someone'' can go pee-pees in um potty all by hwimswelf. Ugh! The Cheat training... what're ya gonna do?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Give him the goods, Compé...-per.

''{Strong Bad gets up, making [[The Geddup Noise]], and the [[Compé-per]] appears. Crossfades to a dictionary page entitled "Today's Entries".}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Clicking on "Cross-Stitch" at the beginning brings up a [[needlepoint]] picture of Strong Bad.
* Clicking the V in the school play scene brings up a [[Playbill]] advertising "Yes it does".
* At the end, click "Broodroscotch" to see some broodroscotch fall on the word. Click it again to see it disappear.
* At the end, click "raspberry sauce" to see a scene of Homsar in Strong Badia.
:'''HOMSAR:''' ''{holding the book titled "Learn to Speak Strong Badian"; his hat floats off while he speaks}'' GrRrRraaauuughnck there, Rubbermaid, can you redirect me to the nearest Puke-valanche?
:''{The Tire bounces away.}''
* At the end, click "hwimswelf" to see a scene of Homestar in the movie theater.
:'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{wearing his viking helmet}'' This suckquake of a movie is a total wastenado of my seven bucks-forest fire.
*Click on the Sawesome Jack sticker to see an extension of the Family Feud scene.
:''{"Onion Bubs" is added to the "Family Feud" display from before for 51 points. Music plays and the audience cheers, with one voice screaming "Onion Bubs!" repeatedly.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Today's Entries===
* '''broodroscotch ''n.-''''' a sweet, boodro-based sauce that doubles as a kudrow-based adhesive.
* '''dribble-drabble ''v.-''''' the act of making frozen cheesecake appear delicious by scribbling raspberry sauce over it.
* '''gutterances ''n.-''''' low growly noises made to express utter disdain at another person's very existence.
* '''hwimswelf ''n.-''''' The Cheat's carpet & couch and satin sheets ruining owndangself.
* '''sawesome ''adj.-''''' not unlike having the qualities of an awesome sauce.
* '''zawesome ''adj.-''''' see crap-for-brains.

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:quotient|quotient]] is the result of a [[wikipedia:division (mathematics)|division]] operation.
*[[Wiktionary: frou-frou|Frou frou]] (usually spelled with a dash) means fancy. [[Wiktionary:Chichi|Chichi]] means trendy or chic. Both words are derived from [[French]].

===Trivia===
*The natural disaster suffixes Strong Bad mentioned are for "avalanche", "earthquake", "tornado", "monsoon", and "forest fire".

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad himself can be seen behind Pom Pom when the main characters protest that Strong Sad's "paunch smells." His body is even moving, indicating that he is saying "Yes it does."
*When Homestar flips from "crap-for-brains" to "carp-for-brains", he flips from near the end of the dictionary to near the beginning, even though both words start with C. He looks up "brain-for-brains" near the end of the dictionary as well. Also, when he flips from one section to another, one section has a "C" on the page, and the other has a "P", just as it did in the Strong Sad scene.
*There is a double-space between "little" and "boodroscotch", and between "droppin'" and "on".
*Although the suffix "-rnado" is shown, the narrator and Homestar use it without the "r" when they say "wastenado."
*The suffix "-onsoon" (hinting at [[Wikipedia:Monsoon|monsoon]]) does not fit in the list because monsoon is actually not considered to be a natural disaster.
*Coach Z's body (from his [[Coach Z Evolution|sixth design]]) is hidden in the Flash File.

===Goofs===
[[File:glovegoof.png|thumb|right|Disconnected Again?]]
*Strong Bad doesn't type the "a" in "droppin' on ''a'' daily basis."
*In the definition for "boodroscotch", the word "that" is repeated.
*The Back button leads to the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons menu]], instead of the [[Strong Bad Email menu]].
*When Strong Bad puts his left hand on his dictionary, his left arm and hand is down, but a boxing glove can be seen held up. Also, when his left hand is on the dictionary, a small area of his left hand (on his left arm) can be seen.
*In the definition for "dribble-drabble", the third "e" in "cheesecake" is missing (though it's possible this was intentional in order to fit the whole definition in two lines).

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's desktop appears to advertise a sequel to [[Where's an Egg?]]
*One of the dictionaries The Cheat is seen standing on is labeled "Thick n' Nasty DICTIONARY", a reference to the Thick n' Nasty burger seen in [[Blubb-O's Commercial]].
*This is another instance of [[Shut Up, Lady]]. Her quote "That looks sinful" directly reflects a quote in [[bottom 10]].
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] when saying "Now that's talkin' like a Strong Bad dude!"
*The music that plays in the Easter egg featuring The Movie Theater is from [[city (comma) state]].
*The entire email is about [[portmanteaus]].
*[[Count Longardeaux's Book|Count Longardeaux]] first appeared in [[record book]].
*[[Trivia Time]] appears again in Homestar's kitchen.
*Coach Z calls Strong Bad "[["man" pronounced as "m'n"|Strong B'd]]".
*The colored lines background previously appeared in [[Coach Z's 110%]].
*The email mentions "[[peeing|pee-pee]]", [[crap]], [[for brains]], [[Ab-Abber 2000|ab-abber]], and [[paunch]].
*The Sawsome Jack! sticker is labeled "Awesome Sauce", from [[funny]] and [[keep cool]].
*The sound clip of an audience cheering and an unseen character screaming "[[Onion Bubs]]!" repeatedly is taken directly from [[original]].
**The music which plays during this scene is from [[Main Page 19]].
*"Carp for brains" and "Brain for brains" are references to [[personal favorites]] and [[invisibility]], respectively.
*[[Homestar's teeth|Homestar's tooth]] falls out of his mouth.
*Strong Sad and Homsar mention a [[puking|Puke-valanche]].
*The "cross stitch" resembles [[Needlepoint]].
*On the scoreboard it mentions [[Team Kneepads]].
*The Cheat is mentioned to pee by his [[Own Dang X|owndangself]].
*Homsar's quote is similar to one by [[Senor Cardgage]] in [[fan club]].
*The "wastenado of my seven bucks-forest fire" remarks are similar to [[best/worst X bucks I ever spent]].
*The scene where all the characters appear on the stage to shout in unison is taken from [[rock opera]].
*Homestar remarks that the dictionary is the [[Best/Worst X ever|best choose my own adventure he's ever play-read]].

===Real-World References===
*"Quotient Quotables" is a reference to Potent Potables, a common category on [[Wikipedia:Jeopardy!|''Jeopardy!'']].
*The screen that pops up at "Gutterances" and "Onion Bubs" is a reference to the game show [[Wikipedia:Family Feud|Family Feud]]'s Fast Money Round. The screen also references actress [[Wikipedia:Zsa Zsa Gabor|Zsa Zsa Gabor]].
*"[[Wikipedia:Glory Days (song)|Glory Days]]" is a song written and performed by [[Wikipedia:Bruce Springsteen|Bruce Springsteen]].
*The "[[Wikipedia:Mumford High School (Michigan)|Mumford Phys. Ed. Dept.]]" T-shirt Homestar wears is the same design as the T-shirt worn by [[Wikipedia:Eddie Murphy|Eddie Murphy]] as Axel Foley in ''[[Wikipedia:Beverly Hills Cop|Beverly Hills Cop]]''.
*In the "Yes, it does" Easter egg, ''[[Wikipedia:Mr. Holland's Opus|Mr. Holland's Opus]]'' is mentioned.
*The symbols used by Strong Bad for different utterances are a parody of the [[Wikipedia:International Phonetic Alphabet|International Phonetic Alphabet]].
*The entry for "boodroscotch" references actress [[Wikipedia:Lisa Kudrow|Lisa Kudrow]]. "Kudrow-based adhesive" may be a reference to the film [[Wikipedia:Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion|Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion]]; in one scene Kudrow claims to have invented the formula for the adhesive on the back of Post-Its.
*Homestar's remarks during the "see also" loop makes reference to the [[Wikipedia:Choose Your Own Adventure|Choose Your Own Adventure]] books popular in the 1980s and 1990s.
*[[Wikipedia: Rubbermaid|Rubbermaid]] is a global marketer of consumer and commercial products including such well-known brands as Rubbermaid food storage, home organization, and refuse container products
*Sawesome Jack is a reference to Saucy Jack, a name signed by [[Wikipedia: Jack the Ripper|Jack the Ripper]], or the song about said man by [[Spinal Tap]].

==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

email thunder

Alun Clewe — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:59:37 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Fun Facts */ It's no longer true that there have been no new sbemails...

{{sbenav|200|link=sbemailtwohundred}}
[[Image:SINCE THE CRAP WHEN.png|thumb|"Whaddya mean, ''your'' email?! I'm in the middle of checkin' ''my'' email!"]]

In his big bicennten-email, Strong Bad learns Homestar has his own email show and attempts to thwart it.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[New Paper]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[The Paper]], [[Limozeen]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar Runner's House#Interior|Homestar's Computer Room]], [[The Field]], the [[Review Revue]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, September 23, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 5:10

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Six}}, {{dvd|Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD|notitle=true}}

==Transcript==

''{The email begins with a red curtain with "sbemail 200" on it. Then, the curtain opens to show the Lappy with a pixelated bugle on it. Trumpets begin to play. Pan out to the Computer Room with roses on its floor. The Cheat appears and plays a trill on a flute.}''

'''SINGER:''' Two hundred sbemails, exhausting just to think about.

''{During the song, "200" appears in the fonts of the Tandy, Compy, and Lappy sequentially, followed by "strongbad_email.exe" typed out. Strong Bad enters the computer room on the red carpet while roses are thrown. Marzipan and Coach Z are seen watching him enter.}''

'''SINGER:''' How can we face two hundred sbemails?

''{Strong Bad continues to approach the computer, showing that the King of Town and Bubs are also in the room. We then cut to the singer, who is revealed to be the Poopsmith, wearing a bowtie and holding a microphone, as he finishes his song.}''

'''THE POOPSMITH:''' The thought of all those sbemails makes me weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak!

''{Cut to Strong Bad standing on his stool. Strong Sad can be seen among the audience.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{finishing the song}'' ''Puke!'' ''{echoing}'' Please be seated. ''{The audience sits down.}'' ''{normally}'' How about that Poopsmith, huh? Breaking his vow of silence to perform my two hundredth sbemail intro song! ''{Close shot of Strong Bad}'' I'm almost ''{pantomimes wiping his nose}'' sniff ''{voice wavers}'' not totally disgusted!

''{Cut to the Poopsmith, surrounded by flies. He gives Strong Bad the thumbs up, and whatsit drips from his glove. Cut to Strong Bad sitting down at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I take that back. ''{types out "strongbad_email.exe"}'' Okay, here we go!

''{pulls up the email, but doesn't read it}''

<blockquote class="email"><div>subject: college girls?</div>
Dear Homestar, 
Me and all of my young college friends that live in my dorm were just wondering if you wanted to come over and have a pillow fight sometime because we think you are sooooooo very cool. 
All the college dorm girls at MO 
Hannah, Micah, Rachel, Sally, Peggy, Vicky, Amber, 
and all the rest of use
</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Duh-duh-duh-Dear ''HOMESTAR''!? ''{extreme close-up on Homestar's name}'' W.T.C.? ''{Camera zooms out}'' New Paper, print me out a hard copy. ''{It does and he grabs it.}'' I'll teach Homestar to steal my 200th email thunder. ''{Thunder booms}'' Hooyah! ''{Strong Bad gets up and leaves}''

''{Cut to Homestar at a table, typing on his [[Happy 8600]]}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{typing}'' —a protected landmark with surprisingly clean restrooms!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Homejob! Some stupid girls that are probably really guys accidentally emailed me—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ugh. Strong Bad, how do you keep gettin' in here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? What are you talking about? I just—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm in the middle of checking my email.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whaddaya mean, ''your'' email? I'm in the middle of checking ''my'' email!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're not the only one around here ''{Close shot of Homestar}'' that answers emails from fans with humorous results.

''{Cut back to show the two characters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Since the crap when?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Since forever. ''{Close shot of Homestar}'' Don't you remember? You're in a bunch of 'em. Like that old classic when they asked ''{Camera zooms out}'' about burglars ''{thumping his feet}'' breaking into my house.

''{Cut to Homestar in his darkened living room, in a Homestar Runner shirt, white robe and sleeping cap}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If I act all sleepy and throw a bunch of ''{holds up a cinnamon dispenser}'' cinnamon on my face, it's usually enough to throw 'em off. ''{opens the lid and throws cinnamon on his face}'' Poo, poo. Poo, poo.

''{The light turns on as he walks into living room to find Strong Bad and The Cheat having broken the cow lamp, from the email [[caper]]}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{yawns}'' Hey Strong Sad. Batman. What are you guys doing in my house?

''{Screen dims}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ''Whaaaaaat?''

''{Cut to the scene from [[long pants]], where Homestar is wearing Daisy Dukes in front of Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And who can forget when I accidentally took some of Strong Sad's pills?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapped by Homestar}'' Okay, calm down, I didn't mean to—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Long pants, Strong Bad! The longest pants! Everybody everybody! Longest pants!

''{Homestar teleports around the room to a different place after each word he says. He first appears in front of Strong Bad, then leaning in behind him, then hanging upside down from the ceiling, then pixellated on the Lappy's screen as Atari Homestar, then blurred in the scene's foreground, then upside down under the desk, then back to his original position, looking exhausted and out of breath, all while chanting the following.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Long long long long long long pants!

''{Screen dims}''

''{Cut to a dimmed shot of the basement. Strong Bad is sitting on the couch. Coach Z is standing to the left wearing a fondue pot on his head and a Tigger tail.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And that one where I dressed up real good like Coach Z. ''{Screen brightens up}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad, I think I ruined your fondue part!

'''STRONG BAD:''' My fondue part?

''{Cut back to Homestar's computer room. Strong Bad is standing on the table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{now frustrated}'' Hang! On! Shut! Face! Those were ''my'' emails and you squeazeled your way into them.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm glad you believe that, Strong Bad. Anyways, Let me see that email. ''{takes the email from Strong Bad and looks at it}'' ''{Zoom in on Homestar.}'' Oh, come on! ''Another'' pillow fight? Haven't they seen hremail #49?

''{Cut back to show the two characters. Strong Bad is sitting on the edge of the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hr-what mail?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hremail. You've got sbemails, I've got hremails.

''{As he says "sbemails" and "hremails", they appear over his head as text, as if someone typed them}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Do you even have an email address?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Of course I do. Everybody knows it's ''{close shot of the Happy 8600 as Homestar types his email address}'' DJmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com.

''{Cut back to to show the two characters. Strong Bad is leaning off the table and standing on his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There's a good chance my brain is about to explode right now.

''{Zoom in on Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aww, come on, old timer. It's not so bad. You want to help me check this email?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{gets in Homestar's face and pokes him as he speaks}'' I'm not gonna help you check your email! I'm gonna help myself ''ruin'' your email! ''{Camera zooms out}'' Whooyaa!

''{Strong Bad exits to the left, and then reappears holding three ice cream sandwiches.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And help myself to your ice cream sammies. Booyaa.

''{Strong Bad runs off, leaving behind one of the sandwiches, which spins in midair.}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad's computer room. The subject/to line and screen are inexplicably blank. The Lappy's cursor is on the subject/to line. Strong Bad sits down at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll teach Homestar to retroactively steal my email thunder! ''{thunder booms}''

''{Strong Bad types out the following email.}''

<blockquote class="email">
<div>to: DJmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com</div>
Dear Homestar, 
I'm a big fan of your hremails and was wandering, can 
you give us a tour of your not-in-front-of-your-computer? 
Sewiously yours, 
Abdi
</blockquote>

''{As he types, he pronounces "wandering" with a short "A" sound as in "ham", and "sewiously" exactly as typed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''Send!''

''{The Lappy's screen clears and the camera whips to the opposite side of the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling}'' Let's see now, a few seconds for the DNS to resolve, server, SMTP, now he's reading it, and... ''ding''! He's taken the bait! ''{leaps away}'' Hooyah!

''{Cut to The Field. Homestar walks in to the left, carrying a clipboard, approaching a wooden sign that reads "Historic Not-In-Front-Of-My-Computer" and has a laptop with an X on top of it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, and if you look to your left, you'll see Historic Not-In-Front-Of-My-Computer: a protected landmark with surprisingly clean restrooms.

''{In the background, Strong Bad is seen running to the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Tee hee hee!

''{Cut to the Happy 8600. Strong Bad runs in from the left as rock music begins to play.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh hello, idiot-proof computer! You look a little thirsty. Time for some long overdue allegedly citrus-flavored payback!

''{Strong Bad produces a giant bottle of Mountain Dew. Zoom in on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rubs chin}'' How does that old adage go? Ah, yes. ''{mimicking Homestar}'' "Apply libewally!" ''{Camera zooms out}'' Hooyah!

''{Strong Bad pours the Mountain Dew on the Happy 8600. Within seconds, it begins to spark and smoke.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! ''{smiles}'' Ha ha!

''{New Paper comes down, but instead of showing Strong Bad's email address, it says "Click here to email Homestar Runner", with Homestar's email address. The two images of the "@" key and Strong Bad's head in an envelope are also missing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looks up}'' Hey! Whose side are you on, anyway?

''{New Paper is pulled back off-screen. Some blows are exchanged, and The Paper comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{smiles again}'' The Paper! You came back!!

''{A spark catches The Paper, and it burns to a crisp.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oops.

''{The screen clears to black, and the words "Strong Bad Emails" appear. The names of the first two hundred Strong Bad Emails scroll up from the bottom in the background.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Rolling over one of the following email names at the end brings up an image of a character (or characters) who first appeared in that email.
**[[homsar]]: [[Homsar]]
**[[band names]]: [[Limozeen]]
**[[superhero name]]: [[Strong Badman]]
**[[ghosts]]: [[Bad Graphics Ghost]]
**[[japanese cartoon]]: [[Stinkoman]]
**[[comic]]: [[Teen Girl Squad]]
**[[dragon]]: [[Trogdor]]
**[[crazy cartoon]]: [[Eh! Steve!]]
**[[kind of cool]]: [[Senor Cardgage]]
**[[montage]]: [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]]
**[[animal]]: [[Sterrance]]
*At the end, click on "legends" to see a scene about The Poopsmith's singing abilities.
*:''{a tattered scrap of brown paper appears, with The Poopsmith drawn on it, along with the words "200 email curse", "legend tells...", "The Poopsmith", and "old parchment"}''
*:'''NARRATOR:''' Legend tells that every 200 sbemails The Poopsmith will break his vow of silence—
*:''{the drawing changes to The Poopsmith holding a microphone and wearing a bowtie. The words "Well, well, well, my Michelle..." are added.}''
*:'''NARRATOR:''' —and croon anew.
*At the end, click on the "O" in "Strong" to see a scene with Limozeen. This is an edited version of their easter egg from the 100th email, [[flashback]].
*:'''LIMOZEEN:''' Congratulations, Strong Bad, on your ''{[[Matt Chapman|Matt]]'s voice interrupts, loudly saying:}'' '''200th''' ''{voice ends}'' email!
*:''{slight pause}''
*:'''LARRY:''' ''{startling the other bandmembers}'' WE'RE FROM ''{Matt cuts in again}'' '''THE YEAR 2008'''!
*:'''PERRY:''' Uh, I think it says that at the top of the screen, Larry.
*:''{the words "it is 2008!" appear over the Limozeen logo)''
*:'''LARRY:''' WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!
*:''{The band members strike various poses and the frame freezes, as the ending riff from "Brain Sister" plays.}''
*At the end, click on the "A" in "Bad", to see more with Strong Bad's soda.
*:''{Strong Bad continues to pour Mountain Dew on the Happy. Homestar walks in.}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, cool. How did you get it to do that? USB? Four pin? Eight pin? Firewire? Was it Firewire? I bet it was Firewire. ''{walks out again}''
*At the end, click on the "A" in "Emails" to bring up a pop-up to download the "200 Sbemails" song by [[They Might Be Giants]].
*At the end, click on the "S" in "Emails" to see a scene with Strong Sad.
*:''{Strong Sad is giving a review on his review show, "Review Revue"}''
*:'''STRONG SAD:''' In his shocking 200th episode, Strong Bad turns the entire series on its ear. Will we ever see a 201? Is the reign of HREmails ''{emphasizes the ''H''}'' at hand? For the answers to these questions, be sure and ''not'' check out my blog. I haven't updated that thing in years!
*If an email was sent to [mailto:djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com] before December 2008, an auto reply message would be sent back, saying:
<blockquote>From: djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com 
Subject: My Inbox Runneth Ova! 
 
Oh, hello everyone! For some unknown reason I'm getting this big cavalcanche of emails all of the sudden. They're filling up the basement and I'm running out of paper towels! 
 
Just sit tight and hremails will be back to normal before you know it. 
 
And thanks again to everyone who participated in Bacon Pretend Week! Ron Staple you are a GENIUS! 
 
Okay bye, 
Homestar Runner 
<nowiki>--------</nowiki> Original Message -------- 
 
> Your original message</blockquote>

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The term "Stealing One's Thunder" (from which the title is derived) is used in situations wherein one person is associated with hoopla stemming from the efforts of another person. In this case, sbemail #200 was intended to be for Strong Bad, but the email itself was addressed to Homestar Runner, who would therefore be recognized as the recipient of the 200th email.
*When Strong Bad sends his email, he mentions several technical terms:
**[[Wikipedia:Domain Name Server#DNS_resolvers|DNS Resolving]] is a process done by a DNS (Domain Name System) server in which it identifies the IP address of a [[Wikipedia:Domain name|domain name]].
**[[Wikipedia:Simple Mail Transfer Protocol|SMTP]], or Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, is a standard for servers sending email.
*[[Wikipedia:Universal Serial Bus|USB]] and [[Wikipedia:IEEE 1394 interface|FireWire]] are modern types of serial connections. Older serial connectors were defined by the number of connectors or "pins" they have. Therefore, a 4-pin or an 8-pin would have 4 or 8 pins, respectively, though no such standard connections existed. Serial ports were traditionally 9-pin and 25-pin.

===Trivia===
*Opening [[HR:hremail49.html|hremail49.html]] will play an excerpt from that email.
**Opening [[HR:hremail24.html|hremail24.html]] will play what is left of an event referenced in the previous [[hremail]].
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#duck pond|duck pond]]".
*[[John Linnell]] provides the voice of the Poopsmith, marking the only main character who is not voiced by [[the Brothers Chaps]] or [[Missy]].
*This is the only time we unambiguously hear the Poopsmith talk. 
*The Cheat is playing a [[Left Handedness|left-handed]] flute at the beginning.
*When this toon was first released, the thunder sound effects and the flashing were not there when Strong Bad said "email thunder". These were added later.
*This email took the shortest amount of time for any Strong Bad Email to come to DVD, as [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Six]] came only two months later.
*The summary for the [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed reads, "Strong Bad finds out Homestar has his own email show and is trying to steal his email thunder."
*This email contains about 15 Easter eggs. This is more than any email, or any toon, has ever had so far.

===Remarks===
* The bugle at the beginning has [[angled pixels]], which is a technological impossibility on such supposed low-resolution gifs.
*After the close-up on the Lappy, the cursor disappears.
*Strong Bad tells New Paper to print him out a hard copy instead of typing the print command like he did in [[autobiography]].
*In the flashbacks to [[caper]] and [[long pants]], Strong Bad's design is the newest one, rather than [[Strong Bad Evolution|the one he had at that time, which was the sixth]].
*In the flashback to [[caper]], before the light turns on, The Cheat is already standing next to the cabinet; in the actual email, he's standing in front of it.
*When The Paper comes down, it is clickable and will let you email Strong Bad until he accidentally burns it up.
*Strong Bad pulls the giant bottle of Mountain Dew from [[Hammerspace]].
*Strong Bad has no idea Homestar has an Email address, yet he knew exactly what it was in [[credit card]].
*Strong Bad is surprised at the email, but in [[the process]] he says he picks the email beforehand.
*The Strong Sad Easter egg simply said "sbemail200" on the corner of the screen without the ".html" at the end, as opposed to "sbemail179''.html''" in [[pizza joint]]. This may be because this email's URL is not "sbemail200.html" but "sbemailtwohundred.html".
*Rolling over "[[kind of cool]]" to show [[Senor Cardgage]] doesn't work on the word "cool", which is located at the beginning of the next line.
*Strong Bad never actually answers an email in this cartoon.
*During the closeup of "Dear Homestar", the following text is visible on the Lappy with a decompiler:
<blockquote>Oh...Steven! I think this may finally be it you guys! After 
200 emails I'm finally gonna get 
to make out with D-D-D </blockquote>
:This is most likely a scrapped response for the initial email, and was later featured in [[Quote of the Week#QW-2008-10-16|the Quote of the Week]].
::Part of the text can briefly be seen if you view the email as the flash file and make the window tall.
*The back button sends you to the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons page]] rather than the Sbemail page.

===Goofs===
*When Homestar puts cinnamon on his face, his eyes are the wrong size. They're quite noticeably squished and placed too high on his face.
[[Image:EmailThunderOffSync.png|thumb|100px|Blurry blurry blurry blurry blurry blurry pants!]]
*In the clip from [[long pants]], when Homestar is blurred in the foreground, the table and carpet within the image of blurred Homestar are not in their proper places.
**Additionally, the first line of words on the screen are not there.
*On the end screen, there is no space between [[cheatday]] and [[pom pom]].

===Fixed Goofs===
*Originally on the end screen, highlighting [[ghosts]] would bring up a picture of [[Sterrance]], who never appeared in that email. This has since been corrected; the [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] now appears when that email is highlighted.
*Also originally on the end screen, sibbie was spelled "sibby".

===Glitches===
*If the Limozeen Easter egg is activated, followed by another Easter egg, Limozeen will continue to play over the other one.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's destroying the Happy with [[Mountain Dew]] parallels Homestar's similar use of the soft drink on the Compy in [[anything]]. Strong Bad even quotes Homestar's "apply liberally", imitating his impediment.
*Coach Z returning [[Strong Bad's fondue pot]] is a reference to [[50 emails]].
*Strong Bad signs his message to Homestar "Abdi", based on [[Abdi LaRue]], the sender of the very first email, [[some kinda robot]].
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] twice at the end of the email; once when the Happy starts to spark, and once when The Paper comes down.
*The Easter egg with Limozeen is lifted directly from [[flashback]].
*The Easter egg with Strong Sad refers to [[Strong Sad's Lament]], which, true to Strong Sad's words, hasn't been updated since September 9, 2005.
*In this email, The Cheat plays the [[Instruments|flute]].
*The Easter egg with Strong Sad uses the same theme as in the Strong Sad Easter egg in [[pizza joint]].
*Homestar's laptop [[Happy 8600]] is manufactured by [[Tandy]].
*Strong Bad apparently [[Interrupted Conversations|interrupts]] a Homestar Runner Email when he enters the room.
*The fonts used to write "200" in the intro are the fonts from each of [[Computers#Computers|Strong Bad's computers]].
*Homestar once again uses [[cinnamon]] for stubble.
*Homestar's disdain for the "repeat" pillow-fight topic seems to reflect the "topics the Brothers' Chap aren't likely to answer," most notably requests to "[[draw Trogdor again]]."
*Strong Bad's signs his email to Homestar with the catchphrase "[[Seriously|Sewiously]]", in the same vein as emails he received signed "[[Crapfully yours]]".
*"Squeazeled" and "cavalanche" are [[portmanteaus]].
*The Paper returns to beat up New Paper, making it the first appearance of the original on the site since the email [[the paper]].
*Strong Bad's exclamation, "WTC?" appears to be an initialism for "[[Crap|What the Crap?]]".
*There are three instances of [[Not X]] in this email: Strong Bad is "almost not totally disgusted" by The Poopsmith's singing; he asks Homestar for "a tour of your not-in-front-of-your-computer"; and in an Easter egg, Strong Sad tells viewers to "be sure and not check out my blog."
*Homestar's list of hremails is similar to the one in [[personal favorites]], in that they both have narration that says ''"like the one when... wrote in..."'' and ''"and the one where..."'', as well as the first two emails being real and the rest being fake.
*Homestar claims to have taken some of [[Strong Sad's Pills|Strong Sad's pills]] when remembering the email [[long pants]].

===Real-World References===
*The Poopsmith Easter egg refers to the song "My Michelle" by [[Guns N' Roses]].
*Homestar's laptop is modeled after an [[Wikipedia:OLPC XO-1|XO-1]], an inexpensive model distributed as part of the [[Wikipedia:One Laptop Per Child|One Laptop Per Child]] project. The laptop was made available to North American consumers during the 2007 holiday season in a "Give 1 Get 1" offer. Interestingly, the XO-1 keyboard is designed to resist liquids.
* The menu page description for this toon says, "Homestar will flip you. He will flip you for real." This is a reference to a memorable line spoken by [[Wikipedia: Benicio Del Toro|Benicio Del Toro's]] character in [[Wikipedia: The Usual Suspects|The Usual Suspects]].
*Homestar's email address is a reference to [[Wikipedia: Wolfenstein (series)| the Wolfenstein series']] Main character, BJ Blazkowicz.

===Fast Forward===
*Some full-length [[Hremails]] were released beginning in over 2009, arguably doing what Strong Sad foreshadows in the Review Revue egg and reigning over Sbemails.

==DVD Version==
*The roll-over egg and downloading of the song (for obvious reasons) are disabled.
*The HREmail 49 and 24 Easter eggs are directly accessible from the end of the toon.
{{commentary|email=true}}
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' A millstone, Mike, a Millstone coffee. This email is like a cup of Millstone coffee.

'''MIKE:''' So, we still really haven't decided if there'll be more sbemails or not.

'''MATT:''' Oh, I've decided.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, there won't be.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' There won't be?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's— we're done.

'''MIKE:''' Okay.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that e— that slow-motion walk clip, that was the culmination of all of eight years of efforts, or six years in Strong Bad Email case.

'''MIKE:''' In Strong Bad Email case?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. ''{pause}'' So we totally collaborated with John Linnell in this song, and for weeks ahead we sent him notes and he would send... rough drafts of the song back to us, and he totally didn't just make this song and send it to us and there was maybe one email exchange between the two of us.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Oh really?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that was our creative process.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, okay.

'''MATT:''' It was not that. No, we told him, hey, do you— we had originally asked him to do something for 199, since he had done a song for email 99, but then email 199, we kinda just came and went, did a normal email, and then, uhh, he just made this.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' He made this song.

'''MATT:''' He was like, hey, I made a little thing, a little intro for a— the sbemail 200.

'''MIKE:''' And then we listened to it about ten times in a row and then we thought, I dunno, it just came to us that maybe The Poopsmith should be singing it.

'''MATT:''' Yep. ''{pause}'' It's a bombshell, man.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, man.

'''MATT:''' TBC dropped a bombshell at the beginning of this email.

'''MIKE:''' That email thunder, the little lightning and thunder flashiness was added, like, a couple hours after it was up.

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah, that's right.

'''MIKE:''' I fixed a couple goofs, and then I added that, just cause I had the idea to add it.

'''MATT:''' Nice, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' I'm surprised we didn't add, we had always talked about putting something on Homestar's wall.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' It looks a little bare.

'''MATT:''' A picture of s— of, uhh, Señor Havin' A Little Trouble, maybe, or Mr. Bland. ''{pause}'' he— Homestar has, uhh, Ryan Sterritt's kitchen table.

'''MIKE:''' And Ikea's kitchen table.

'''MATT:''' And a nice molded-plastic chair. ''{pause}'' Oh, tappa-tappa-tappa.

'''MIKE:''' So we had talked about doing this for a long time, having a cartoon where you start on Homestar, and Homestar's doing a bunch of stuff, and falls asleep, and then it turns out that this was sort of the p— Homestar's version of the Strong Bad Email, where he would then come into a Strong Bad Email like this.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Did I explain that well?

'''MATT:''' Not well at all.

'''MIKE:''' We talked about making a cartoon where it's Homestar and then at the end of the cartoon or somewhere within the cartoon you see one of their little scenes where Homestar popped into a Strong Bad Email, and it was actually part of a larger story focusing on Homestar the Runner. That was eloquence. ''{unintelligible}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that was a little better. Now that spent half the commentary talking about that.

'''MIKE:''' We got nothing else to talk about.

'''MATT:''' I like— I think Coach Z with that fondue pot on his head should be some kind of— ''and the tail'' should be some kind of Johnny Appleseed.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' We should make up like a, Saddy Dumpington— it should be the Saddy Dumpington version of Coach Z.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' He's got a tiger tail.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Monday's update, I call that.

'''MIKE:''' Alright.

'''MATT:''' Get started, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' What was the, uh—

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' I've got diarrhea, I won't be able to do work on that one.

'''MIKE:''' What did you record the, uh, sound of Homestar's computer, uh, keyboard tapping sound?

'''MATT:''' Uh, it was on my— my old, uh, laptop at home.

'''MIKE:''' Oh.

'''MATT:''' Nothing— nothing interesting.

'''MIKE:''' ''{pause}'' Umm...

'''MATT:''' Whooyaa!

'''MIKE:''' He says some nice whooyaas several times.

'''MATT:''' Several, three or four whooyaas. ''{pause}'' Umm, so this is the first time we've ever seen Strong Bad re— like, send a, uh, actually send an email, right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, the cursor blinking up in the subject bar.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that was you, man.

'''MIKE:''' Mm-hn.

'''MATT:''' ''{pause}'' Umm, how does Homestar type with no gloves of any kind on? Right? Hands? Whoo!

'''MIKE:''' Uh, what do you call that?

'''MATT:''' A blurry swoosh.

'''MIKE:''' A swoosh?

'''MATT:''' That's a whip pan.

'''MIKE:''' A whip pan, that's what I was looking for.

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' A 180-degree whip stick.

'''MIKE:''' Did you see the stool, the stool was kinda slowly gliding back.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Maybe it had been greased recently.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' That, uh, is that the same sign from, uh, the hygiene email? Gene's Mouth National—

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah, the one— Gene's Mouth National—

'''MIKE:''' Park.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{pause}'' Do do do do do do do do guh guh guh guh guh guh! ''{pause}'' Umm... ''{pause}'' Throw— there's a lot of callbacks in this email.

'''MIKE:''' Mountain Dew, pouring Mountain Dew.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, there's really no original content in it at all.

'''MIKE:''' It's a clip show, it may as well just of been a clip show.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, you did a poor job on this 200th email.

'''MIKE:''' But, uh, I—

'''MATT:''' It's too bad this is the last email we're ever making.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' For sure, I decided right now, for certain, never again.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' Sorry.

'''MIKE:''' I bet by the time this DVD's out we will have made one already.

'''MATT:''' No.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Alright.

'''MATT:''' I'm holdin' out.

'''MIKE:''' Okay.

'''MATT:''' I have a sore throat and dia— diarrhea.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' I'm sure everyone needed to know that.

'''MATT:''' That one's my favorite.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, that one's my favorite.

'''MATT:''' Oh, I like that one, too.

'''MIKE:''' That one sucks.

'''MATT:''' Oh, I— oh, that one. Yeah, that one's bad.

=== Fun Facts ===
*[[Wikipedia:Millstone Coffee|Millstone Coffee]] is a brand of coffee sold in the U.S., a division of [[Wikipedia:The J. M. Smucker Company|the J.M. Smucker Company]]. The company sells whole bean and ground coffee in retail settings and on its website.
*The email [[credit card]] is actually the first time that Strong Bad sent an email onscreen.
*Despite Mike's prediction, no new Strong Bad Emails were released in between email thunder and strongbad_email.exe Disc Six. Strong Bad finally made his "comeback" on June 29, 2009 in [[Hremail 3184]].
*Matt makes a dual reference to both Homestar's [[lack of visible arms]] and Strong Bad's ability to [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?|type with boxing gloves on]].

==See Also==
*[[Place ya bets!]]
*[[Page Load Error]]

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|twohundred|14754}}
*[[HR:sbemail200_zeen.swf|view the Flash file for the Limozeen Easter egg]]
*[[HR:songs/200sbemails.zip|download the song]]
{{Podstar download|sbemail200}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:Career Day

Alun Clewe — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:20:56 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* whating the system? */ It's you.

== Easter Eggs ==

Shouldn't someone include the Easter Eggs? I myself have not found any of them, but there may still be some. [[User:Chapien|chapien (approved by Homsar!)]] 18:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:That's why it's not on the page. No one has found any yet, and there probably isn't any in the cartoon as of now (at least). {{User:DevonM/sig}} 18:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Big Toon ==

Shouldn't it be noted that this is the first big toon since 2007? I think that's kind of improtant...
:I suppose it's a bit notable, but I'm not sure it merits a mention on the page. The gap between [[A Dumpy Tale]] and [[Weclome Back]] was similar (11 months), but is not mentioned anywhere on the pages. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 19:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

this is not a big toon
they said is wasnt one
: On the main page, before its release, sure. But the Toons menu lists it among the big toons (as in, not Shorts). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Zoom zoom ==

Am I the only one that reminded of Rhino's hamsterball from the movie ''Bolt'' when I see Cheat in his space suit? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
: I was reminded of ''a'' hamster ball. But no specific ones. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::I was reminded of the gerbil ball for the gerbil my brother used to have... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I was reminded of the cow ball from The Far Side and the ball Bart was in in The Simpsons. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::::I have that panel on my binder. It's one good Far Side. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Cape Tedaverill? ==

There have been a couple of (admittedly poorly worded) attempts to put on the page the fact that the name Ted Averill is a play on Canaveral. I have to say I'm inclined to agree, considering the space launch connection and all. Does anyone else feel similarly? (Though I note that this is not the only place where the name appears, so I don't know if this is the best place to note it). -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.26|132.183.151.26]] 01:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:[[space program|The first time he appears]], it's said in such a way that no one would make the connection, so i'm inclined to say no. Also, it's a poor rhyme. If that was their intention, they could do so much better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:53, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== McWhat Nebula? ==
I'm hearing McCow-Pie Nebula rather than McAlpine Nebula. No? It's funnier.
{{User:Funhaver}}
:I heard it as "cow pie" the first time, but after reading the transcript and listening closely, i must conclude that, sad though it may be, it's "MacAlpine." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:I think the "Mc" and the "Al" sounds are blending together to get the "McCow" sound. It sounded somewhat like that when I watched it, too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Buck the System ==
It's probably just because I am a huge SOAD fan, but when Strong bad said "Bucking the System" I instantly thought of the System of a Down song "F*ck the System." Anyone else think this? Just wondering if it should be on the real world references page.--[[User:Shaokahn280z|Shaokahn280z]] 19:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
[http://www.google.com/search?q=bucking+the+system google results] show that it's a pretty common phrase. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Space: Defined by Scientists as the... ==

When Strong Bad says this while in the shows the space capsule, I believe the way he says this is a refrence to "Space: The Final Frontier", from Star Trek. Should someone add this to the page as a refrence?
:I thought of it as well, but i figured it might be too vague. I'm on the fence. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Blowin' in the Wind ==

A fact that's been removed from the page several times now involves the fan, which is being used similarly to in [[magic trick]]. Looks like a valid fact to me — it's basically the same joke, using the fan to make clothes blow around dramatically — but what do you say? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== whating the system? ==

Is it me, or is "Bucking the System" a reference to a cuss word?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 19:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's you. As noted above in a different section, "buck the system" is a [http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/buck+the+system common phrase] with [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/buck no etymological relation] to the rhyming cuss word. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Portmanteaus

Alun Clewe — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:08:34 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* S */

'''[[Wikipedia:Portmanteau|Portmanteaus]]''' (or '''portmanteaux''') are commonly used in the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. A portmanteau is a combination of two or more words to make a new word or phrase, often going against the accepted traditions of how words are compounded. The term originally referred to a man's travel bag which contained two main pockets. Portmanteaus were first given that name by [[Wikipedia:Lewis Carroll|Lewis Carroll]] to describe "slithy" in the poem [[Wikipedia:Jabberwocky|Jabberwocky]], a combination of "lithe" and "slimy".

[[Strong Bad]] and [[Senor Cardgage]], especially, frequently create portmanteaus. [[The Brothers Chaps]] also often use portmanteaus when providing captions for [[Sketchbook]] and [[Weekly Fanstuff]] entries.

This article only lists portmanteaus unique to the Homestar Runner universe.

==Portmaneaus in-[[Homestar Runner Universe|universe]]==
===A===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Actionsodes
| Action and episodes
| [[SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer]]
|-
| A lottle
| A lot and little
| [[magic trick]]
|-
| Againymore
| Again and anymore
| [[Email]]
|-
| AngelCities 
| [[Wikipedia:Angelfire|Angelfire]] and [[Wikipedia:GeoCities|GeoCities]]
| [[fan club]]
|-
| Appeteasers
| Appetizers and teasers
| [[Biz Cas Fri 1]]
|}

===B===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Babe-liens
| Babes and [[Wikipedia:alien|aliens]]
| [[best thing]]
|-
| Barbzerdry
| Barber and wizardry
| [[haircut]]
|-
| Blistergeist
| Blister and poltergeist
| [[slumber party]]
|-
| Blue Las-alert
| [[Blue Laser]] and alert
| [[Shopping for Danger]]
|-
| Blue Laserdisc
| Blue Laser and [[Wikipedia:Laserdisc|Laserdisc]]
| [[Blue Laserdisc Challenge]]
|-
| Bodadical
| Bodacious and radical
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]
|-
| [[Bookazon.com]]
| Book and Amazon.com
| [[studying]], [[diorama]]
|-
| Bouillon-aire
| Bouillon and billionaire
| [[space program]]
|-
| Brainkrieg
| [[Brain]] and [[Wikipedia:blitzkrieg|blitzkrieg]]
| [[death metal]]
|-
| Breadallelogram
| [[Bread]] and [[Wikipedia:parallelogram|parallelogram]]
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]
|-
| Breadpazoid
| Bread and trapezoid
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]
|-
| Breadtangle
| Bread and rectangle
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]
|-
| Brellow
| Brown and yellow
| [[Hremail 62]]
|-
| Brhombus
| Bread and rhombus
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]
|-
| Broternal
| Brotherhood and fraternal
| [[Ever and More!]]
|-
| Bubsamecium
| [[Bubs]] and [[Wikipedia:Paramecium|paramecium]]
| [[highschool]]
|-
| [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme|Bubsgonzola]]
| [[Bubs]] and [[Wikipedia:Gorgonzola (cheese)|Gorgonzola]]
| [[unnatural]]
|-
| Bubs-keep
| Bubs and barkeep
| [[DNA Evidence]]
|-
| Bubsness
| Bubs and Business
| [[Broken Compy Menu]]
|-
| Burninate
| Burn and terminate
| [[dragon]]
|}

===C===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Caffeinergy
| Caffeine and energy
| [[road trip]]
|-
| Canceltation
| Cancelation and consultation
| [[Senor Mortgage]]
|-
| Caramel appletini
| Caramel apple and Appletini
| [[Flashforward]]
|-
| Carve-nival
| Carve and carnival
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]
|-
| Cavalcanche
| Cavalcade and avalanche
| djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com automated response
|-
| Cheatachu
| Cheat and [[Pikachu]]
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], [[Some Type of Online Auction]]
|-
| Cheatar
| [[The Cheat|Cheat]] and guitar
| [[The Cheatar]]
|-
| Cheatday
| Cheat and birthday
| [[cheatday]]
|-
| Cheatentina
| Cheat and Argentina
| [[crying]]
|-
| Cheatribution
| Cheat and retribution
| [[pop-up]]
|-
| Cheatventures
| Cheat and adventures
| [[bedtime story]]
|-
| Chocolardiac
| Chocolate and Cardiac
| [[bottom 10]]
|-
| Chocozuma's
| Chocolate and [[Wikipedia:Montezuma|Montezuma's]]
| [[bottom 10]]
|-
| Chumpion
| Chump and champion
| [[underlings]]
|-
| Closimonies
| Closing and ceremonies
| [[strong badathlon]]
|-
| Colognac
| Cologne and Cognac
| [[modeling]]
|-
| Combolations
| Combination and congratulations
| [[japanese cartoon]], [[flashback]]
|-
| Constabulate
| Constable and consummate
| [[Trogday 08]]
|-
| Coology
| Cool and eulogy
| [[your funeral]]
|-
| Coopreme
| Cooper and supreme
| [[the movies]]
|-
| Cornucopourri
| Cornucopia and potpourri
| [[pop-up]]
|-
| Corpy
| [[Wikipedia:Corporation|Corporation]] and [[Compy 386|Compy]]
| [[from work]]
|-
| Coughiversary
| Cough and anniversary
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]]
|-
| Couchscraper
| Couch and skyscraper
| [[bike thief]]
|-
| Crawbject
| Craw and object
| [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]]
|-
| Cuss-mando
| Cuss and commando
| [[Commandos in the Classroom]]
|}

===D===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| D'screetret
| Discreet and secret
| [[Decemberween Short Shorts]]
|-
| D'weeve
| Decemberween and eve
| [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]]
|-
| Dadbysitter
| Dad and babysitter
| [[bedtime story]]
|-
| Dazzle-mazing
| Dazzling and amazing
| [[Happy Fireworks]]
|-
| Deliberance
| Deliberate and deliverance
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]]
|-
| Decemberween
| December and Halloween
| ''see [[Decemberween]]''
|-
| Decision-venture
| Decision and adventure
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]
|-
| Delivereceivables
| Deliverables and receivables
| [[business trip]]
|-
| Deuce-blemint
| Deuce and doublemint
| [[2 emails]] Easter egg
|-
| Diamonocle
| Diamond and monocle
| [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective]]
|-
| Diaperbolical
| Diaper and diabolical
| [[Sam & Max Season Two Alternate Ending 101]]
|-
| Dramatastration
| Dramatization and demonstration
| [[Malloween Commercial]]
|-
| Dreamail
| Dream and email
| [[dreamail]]
|-
| Dudeical
| Dude and radical
| [[web comics]]
|-
| Duderonomy
| Dude and [[Wikipedia:Deuteronomy|Deuteronomy]]
| [[Email]]
|}

===E===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Eco-mail
| Ecology and e-mail
| [[environment]]
|-
| Eggction
| Egg and auction
| [[Some Type of Online Auction]]
|-
| Entrangled
| Entranced and entangled
| [[what I want]]
|-
| Epi-snowed
| Episode and snowed
| [[The Next Epi-Snowed]]
|-
| Europa-pean
| [[Wikipedia:Europa (moon)|Europa]] and European
| [[Drive-Thru]]
|-
| Everybloody
| Everybody and bloody
| [[what I want]]
|-
| Excardon
| Excuse and pardon
| [[kind of cool]]
|-
| Extracurricularrific
| Extracurricular and terrific
| [[death metal]]
|}

===F===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Fairstival
| Fair and festival
| [[Halloween Fairstival]]
|-
| Ferty-tirst
| Fortieth and First
| [[Fall Float Parade]]
|-
| Fizzleweight
| Featherweight and sizzle
| [[yes, wrestling]]
|-
| Flavornoid
| Flavor and flavonoid
| [[specially marked]]
|-
| Flavourite
| Flavour and favourite
| [[Fan Stuff]], [[Kick the Can]] commentary
|-
| Forty-twone
| Forty-two and forty-one
| [[the movies]]
|-
| Formulawesome
| Formula and awesome
| [[Strong Badia the Free]]
|-
| Funtivities
| Fun and activities
| [[specially marked]]
|}

===G===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Ganglo-Saxon
| Gangly and [[Wikipedia:Anglo-Saxon|Anglo-Saxon]]
| [[more armies]]
|-
| Gazemazement
| Gaze and amazement
| [[magic trick]]
|-
| GeoFire
| [[Wikipedia:GeoCities|GeoCities]] and [[Wikipedia:Angelfire|Angelfire]]
| [[fan club]]
|-
| Geographist
| Geographer and -ist (possibly geologist)
| [[death metal]]
|-
| Gewd
| Good and Ew
| [[bedtime story]]
|-
| Graveyardiganz
| [[Wikipedia:The Backyardigans|The Backyardigans]] and [[Wikipedia:Gravediggaz|Gravediggaz]]
| [[Most in the Graveyard]]
|-
| Grold
| Grown and old
| [[rated]]
|-
| Grood
| Great and good
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]
|-
| Groodness
| Great and goodness
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]]
|-
| Gummel
| Gore and pummel
| [[Thy Dungeonman 3]]
|-
| Gunkistan
| [[Gun]] and [[Wikipedia:Pakistan|Pakistan]]
| [[licensed]]
|-
| Gymatorium
| Gymnasium and auditorium
| [[yes, wrestling]]
|}

===H===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Headbrow
| Head and eyebrow
| [[haircut]]
|-
| Helloquialism
| Hello and colloquialism
| [[diorama]]
|-
| [[Unusual Greetings#Helscome|Helscome]]
| Hello and welcome
| [[Homestar Runner's Website]]
|-
| Highscraper
| Highrise and skyscraper
| [[dangeresque 3]]
|-
| Homestarmecium
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[Wikipedia:paramecium|paramecium]]
| [[highschool]]
|-
| Homestarloween
| Homestar and Halloween
| [[Homestarloween Party]]
|-
| [[Homestarmy]]
| Homestar and army
| [[army]]
|-
| [[Homezipan]]
| Homestar and Marzipan
| [[Strong Badia the Free]]
|-
| Homsolo
| [[Homsar]] and solo
| [[MixMastah 800]]
|-
| Hot-free
| Hotline and toll free
| [[unnatural]]
|-
| Hremail
| Homestar Runner and email
| [[email thunder]]
|-
| Hundredaire/thousandaire
| Hundred/thousand and millionaire
| [[suntan]], [[Sickly Sam's Big Outing]] (Thousandaire only)
|}

===I===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Identificaption
| Identification and caption
| [[rated]]
|-
| Inbredtational
| Inbred and invitational
| [[pet show]]
|-
| Intregway
| Intrigued and [[Wikipedia:Segway|Segway]] (PT)
| [[concert]]
|-
| Intromercial
| Intro(duction) and infomercial
| [[technology]]
|-
| Investiga-awesome
| Investigate and awesome
| [[local news]]
|-
| Irridisregardless
| Irrespective, Disregard and Regardless
| [[Peasant's Quest]]
|}
===J===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Janitator
| Janitor and terminator
| [[DNA Evidence]]
|}
===K===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Kansattica
| Kansas and Attica
| [[theme song]]
|-
| Keyswordtar
| [[Wikipedia:Keytar|Keytar]] and sword
| [[portrait]]
|}
===L===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Lieuteneral
| Lieutenant and General
| [[space program]]
|-
| Limozloshy
| [[Limozeen]] and [[sloshy]]
| [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]]
|-
| Loadry
| Loading and laundry
| [[Rap Song]]
|-
| Lyricbolical
| Lyric and diabolical
| [[Rap Song]]
|}
===M===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Malloween
| Marshmallow and Halloween
| [[Malloween Commercial]]
|-
| Mannonball
| Man and cannonball
| [[keep cool]]
|-
| Margaracheatas
| Margaritas and Cheat
| [[Fan Costumes '06]]
|-
| Marshalades
| Marshmallows and melonade
| [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]]
|-
| Marzipants
| [[Marzipan]] and pants
| [[vacation]]
|-
| Marziperson
| Marzipan and person
| [[Weclome Back]]
|-
| Marzipole
| Marzipan and pole
| [[environment]]
|-
| Marzistar
| Marzipan and Homestar
| [[Strong Badia the Free]]
|-
| Masterdly
| Masterful and dastardly
| [[senior prom]]
|-
| Maxymoron
| Maximum and [[Wikipedia:Oxymoron|oxymoron]]
| [[road trip]]
|-
| Meltshake
| Melt and milkshake
| [[road trip]]
|-
| Millionzoic
| Million and [[Wikipedia:Geologic time scale|the general prehistoric suffix]] -zoic
| [[Summer Short Shorts]]
|-
| Momzipan
| Mom and Marzipan
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]
|-
| Momkins
| Mom and [[Tompkins]]
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]]
|-
| Moneygician
| Money and magician
| [[magic trick]]
|-
| Montesodium
| [[Wikipedia:Montessori school|Montessori]] and [[Wikipedia:Monosodium|monosodium]]
| [[coloring]]
|-
| Mornideo
| Morning and video
| [[web comics]]
|-
| Mysfit-steries
| Misfit and mysteries
| [[highschool]]
|}

===N===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| [[Nerdular Nerdence]]
| Nerd and Popular, Nerd and Science
| [[car]]
|-
| Newlydead
| Newlywed and dead
| [[your funeral]]
|-
| [[Dancin' Musical Nobots|Nobot]]
| No and robot
| [[what I want]]
|}
===O===
===P===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Parchmentic
| Parchment and photographic
| [[Thy Dungeonman II]]
|-
| Pretendix
| Pretend and appendix
| [[Strong Badia The Free]]
|-
| Petrifries
| Petrified and fries
| [[road trip]]
|-
| Philly Cheat-Steak
| Philly Cheese Steak and Cheat
| [[Halloween Fairstival]]
|-
| [[Piemonade]]
| Pie and Lemonade
| [[other days]]
|-
| Plascardo
| Plastic and card
| [[Coach Z's 110%]]
|-
| [[Polymascotfoamalate]]
| Poly-, mascot, foam, and -ate
| [[4 branches]]
|-
| Polyhairsprayteasealate
| Poly-, hairspray, and tease
| [[4 branches]] (Easter egg)
|-
| Potion-ma-jig
| potion and thingamajig
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]
|-
| Pretendous
| Pretend and tremendous
| [[extra plug]]
|}

===Q===
===R===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Radacious
| Radical and boadacious
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]
|-
| Rapscalliwag
| Rapscallion and scallywag
| [[long pants]]
|-
| Reallysolved
| Really and resolved
| [[retirement]]
|-
| Restige
| Rest and prestige
| [[the chair]]
|-
| Revengeanceful
| Revenge, vengeance, and vengeful
| [[2 years]] (Easter egg)
|-
| Rhinociraptors
| Rhinoceros and velociraptors
| [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective]]
|-
| Roadtripcionados
| Road trip and aficionados
| [[road trip]]
|-
| Roomisode
| Room and episode
| [[Dangeresque Roomisode 1: Behind the Dangerdesque]]
|}

===S===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Safariventure
| Safari and adventure
| [[theme park]]
|-
| Sbemail
| [[Strong Bad]] and Email
| [[Strong Bad Email]]
|-
| Scram-oose
|Scram and vamoose
|[[your edge]]
|-
|Sesquicentenn-email
| Sesquicentennial and email
| [[Sbemail 150?!?]] and [[alternate universe]]
|-
|Shambling Krenshar
| [http://www.rpdia.net/wiki/Shambling_mound Shambling mound] and [http://www.rpdia.net/wiki/Krenshar krenshar]
| [[4 Gregs]]
|-
| Shinoligans
| [[Wikipedia:Shinola|Shinola]] and shenanigans
| [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-15|Quote of the Week]]
|-
| Shock-you-mentary
| Shock you and documentary
| [[bedtime story]]
|-
| Skelebrates
| Skeleton and vertebrate(s)
| [[big white face]] (Easter egg)
|-
| Smunderling
| Smelly and [[Glossary#U|underling]]
| [[underlings]]
|-
| Spamvertisement
| Spam and advertisement
| [[unused emails]]
|-
| Squeazeled
| Squeeze and weaseled
| [[email thunder]]
|-
| Standby-orama
| Stand by and diorama
| [[diorama]]
|-
|Stinkomanual
| [[Stinkoman]] and manual
| [[Stinkoman 20X6]]
|-
|Stratergery
| Strategy and Surgery
| [[Homestar Ruiner]]
|-
|Stratosfear
| [[wikipedia:Stratosphere|Stratosphere]] and fear
| [[Stinkoman 20X6]]
|-
| Strong Badagement
| Strong Bad and management
| [[DNA Evidence]]
|-
| Strong Badathlon
| Strong Bad and -athlon
| [[strong badathlon]]
|-
| Strongbadiophage
| Strong Bad and [[Wikipedia:bacteriophage|bacteriophage]]
| [[highschool]]
|-
| Stummy
| Stomach and tummy
| [[Stinkoman 20X6]]
|-
| Suppleties
| Supple and subtleties
| [[lady...ing]]
|}

===T===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Temporarios
| Temporary and [[Wikipedia:Cheerios|Cheerios]]
| [[strong badathlon]]
|-
| Tenthennial
| Tenth and -ennial
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]
|-
| Thiefnique
| Thief and technique
| [[bike thief]]
|-
| Tophaticent
| Top hat and magnificent
| [[more armies]]
|-
| Trogday
| [[Trogdor]] and birthday
| [[Happy Trogday]]
|-
| Trogventure
| [[Trogdor]] and adventure
| [[Peasant's Quest Preview]]
|-
| Turbolence
| Turbo and turbulence
| [[Stinkoman 20X6]]
|-
| Twenty-seventeen
| Twenty-seven and seventeen
| [[Summer Short Shorts]]
|-
| Twii
| Two, Three, and [[Wikipedia:Wii|Wii]]
| [[Kid Speedy]] Version 1.TWII
|}

===U===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Uglypan
| Ugly and Marzipan
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 3.0]]
|}
===V===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Valentimes
| Valentine's and times
| [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]]
|-
| Vantastic
| Van and fantastic
| [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]
|-
| Vornado
| Vortex and tornado
| [[trading cards]]
|}
===W===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears In
|-
| Wheatgrasskini
| Wheatgrass and bikini
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]]
|-
| Wheatgrasstini
| Wheatgrass and martini
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]]
|-
| Why come?
| Why and how come?
| see [[Why come]]
|}
===X===
===Y===
===Z===

==Portmanteaus in Sketchbook Captions==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears
|-
| Basketbully
| Basketball and bully
| [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-11-17|17 Nov 2006]]
|-
| Cheat-up
| Cheat and stick-up
| [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-02-10|10 Feb 2005]]
|-
| Cowcopter
| Cow and helicopter
| [[Sketchbook 2004#SK-2004-08-05|05 Aug 2004]]
|-
| Exag-a-homestar
| Exaggerate and Homestar
| [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-08-11|11 Aug 2005]]
|-
| The Hotgly One
| Hot and [[The Ugly One]]
| [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-10-20|20 Oct 2005]]
|-
| Limolosers
| Limozeen and losers
| [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-06-23|23 Jun 2005]]
|-
| Pipestache
| Pipe and mustache
| [[Sketchbook 2007#SK-2007-10-04|04 Oct 2007]]
|-
| Stinkotetsuo
| Stinkoman and [[Wikipedia:Tetsuo Shima|Tetsuo]]
| [[Sketchbook 2005#SK-2005-09-01|01 Sep 2005]]
|-
| Strong Sadstronaut
| Strong Sad and astronaut
| [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-03-30|30 Mar 2006]]
|-
| Trogmopolitan
| Trogdor and cosmopolitan
| [[Sketchbook 2007#SK-2007-08-09|09 Aug 2007]]
|}

==Portmanteaus in Weekly Fanstuff Captions==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears
|-
| Cheatpod
| Cheat and [[Wikipedia:iPod|iPod]]
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2005#WF-2005-10-06|06 Oct 2005]]
|-
| Cheatz-it
| Cheat and [[Wikipedia:Cheez-It|Cheez-It]]
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2007#WF-2007-06-21|21 Jun 2007]]
|-
| Fanimation
| Fan and animation
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2007#WF-2007-11-29|29 Nov 2007]]
|-
| Homespore Runner
| Homestar Runner and [[Wikipedia:Spore (2008 video game)|Spore]]
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#WF-2008-06-19|19 Jun 2008]]
|-
| Homsunami
| Homsar and tsunami
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2007#WF-2007-10-12|12 Oct 2007]]
|-
| Knitdor
| Knit and Trogdor
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2006#WF-2006-01-12|12 Jan 2006]]
|-
| Legogdor
| Lego and Trogdor
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2004#WF-2004-11-22|22 Nov 2004]]
|-
| Legomestar
| Lego and Homestar
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2004#WF-2004-10-07|07 Oct 2004]]
|-
| Limojean jacket
| Limozeen and jean jacket
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2007#WF-2007-11-01|01 Nov 2007]]
|-
| Monstrositea
| Monstrosity and tea
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2006#WF-2006-06-29|29 Jun 2006]]
|-
| Stinkomural
| Stinkoman and mural
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2007#WF-2007-03-22|22 Mar 2007]]
|-
| Trogapult
| Trogdor and catapult
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2006#WF-2006-07-06|06 Jul 2006]]
|-
| Trogbloons
| Trogdor and balloons
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#WF-2008-06-05|05 Jun 2008]]
|-
| Trogcake
| Trogdor and cake
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#WF-2008-08-07|07 Aug 2008]]
|-
| Trogcar
| Trogdor and car
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2006#WF-2006-11-03|03 Nov 2006]]
|-
| Trogstorm
| Trogdor and storm
| [[Weekly Fanstuff 2008#WF-2008-05-22|22 May 2008]]
|}

==Portmanteaus in SBCG4AP Dev Blog==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="75%" style="text-align:center"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Portmanteau !! Words Combined !! Appears
|-
| Endinning
| End and beginning
| [[SBCG4AP Dev Blog#The Endinning of the End|The Endinning of the End]] (14 May 2008)
|-
| Phensics
| Fence and Physics
| [[SBCG4AP Dev Blog#Payable Demo!|Payable Demo!]] (10 Jun 2008)
|-
|}

== See Also ==
*[[Onomatopoeia]]
*[[Spoonerisms]]

[[Category:Word running gags]]
[[Category:Spelling and Grammar]]

4 Gregs

Alun Clewe — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:02:27 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Real-World References */ "Shambling Krenshar"

{{abouttoon}} {{for|squad of [[characters]]|The Gregs}}
{{toonnav|Shorts|4gregs|Best Caper Ever|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:FourGregs.png|200px|thumb|"Not one, not two, not three, not five, four Gregs."]]

[[The Gregs]] go to a varsity football game.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Science Fiction Greg]], [[D N'D Greg]], [[Open Source Greg]], [[Japanese Culture Greg]], {{Film|Tompkins}}, {{Film|Cheerleader}}, Short Girl, Mascot/Regular Greg, Color Guard Maiden, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' Football Stadium, [[Strong Bad's Room]]

'''Date:''' Monday, February 16, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:20

'''Page Title:''' I knew they'd come back to me...

==Transcript==
''{"4 Gregs" appears in the center of the screen.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' Four Gregs!

''{The numbers 1, 2, 3, and 5 appear, and each number is crossed out over the next line.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' Not one, not two, not three, not five...

''{"4 Gregs" appears again.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' Four Gregs!

''{Science Fiction Greg appears, holding a bubbly-looking toy gun.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' Sci Fi Greg! One Greg!

''{Science Fiction Greg holds up one finger. Cut to D N'D Greg holding a twenty-sided die.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' D N'D Greg! Two Greg!

''{D N'D Greg holds up two fingers. Cut to Open Source Greg holding a laptop.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' Open Source Greg! Three Greg!

''{Open Source Greg holds up three fingers. Cut to Japanese Culture Greg, holding an anime-like action figure.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' Japanese Culture Greg, four Greg! ''{Japanese Culture Greg holds up four fingers.}'' Four Gregs!

''{"4 Gregs" appears again. Cut to the four Gregs standing together.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Shields up, everyone. I figured out what we're doing tonight, and it's not any of the stuff you're about to suggest.

'''D N'D GREG:''' Play some serious tabletop—

'''JAPANESE CULTURE GREG:''' Staring at vinyl figurines?

'''OPEN SOURCE GREG:''' Downloading several hours of—

'''ALL GREGS EXCEPT SCI-FI GREG:''' ''{disappointed}'' Oh.

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Tonight, new Earthlings... tonight, we go... TO A VARSITY FOOTBALL GAME!

'''OTHER THREE GREGS:''' ''{gasp, with the word "Gasp!" drawn above them}''

'''D N'D GREG:''' Into the dragon's lair?

''{The text bubble remains the same but points to Japanese Culture Greg, with the word "Robotic" inserted into the sentence as he says it.}''

'''JAPANESE CULTURE GREG:''' Into the robotic dragon's lair?

'''OPEN SOURCE GREG:''' Into the Apple store? ''{As he says "Apple", the text bubble has a "bite" taken out of it, and a leaf appears on it.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' That's right. It's the one time we can co-exist at the same social function with football players, but they will be powerless to ridicule and/or wedgie us!

'''D N'D GREG:''' Revenge is at hand!

'''OPEN SOURCE GREG:''' Huzzah!

'''JAPANESE CULTURE GREG:''' ''{his head suddenly looks extremely animeish}'' Otaku!

''{Cut to the back of a football player wearing a jersey that reads "AT THE GAME", with "888" written below it. Then cut to a set of stands. All of the Gregs except Open Source Greg are visible.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Here we are. In the middle of it all!

''{Cut back to show that the three Gregs are sitting in the corner of the stands, and there is a huge radius around them where no one else is sitting; the stands are otherwise packed. There are 14:54 left on the clock, the Growlbacks have "000000" points, and the "Visitor" has 24 points.}''

'''CROWD:''' YAY!!!

'''JAPANESE CULTURE GREG:''' How does football work again?

''{Cut to a closeup of the Gregs.}''

'''JAPANESE CULTURE GREG:''' Is it anything like drift racing?

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Uh, I think there are some foots ''{said to rhyme with "loots"}''... and uh... perchance a balls?

''{Cut to a closeup of D N'D Greg. He's smiling and has sharp teeth. A scroll appears next to him, which he begins to read:}''

'''D N'D GREG:''' The offensive team has four chances to advance the ball ten yards at a time with the objective being...

''{D N'D Greg cuts off. The other two Gregs are visibly confused. D N'D Greg looks at them with annoyance. Crickets chirp.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' It's like I don't even know you anymore.

'''D N'D GREG:''' Fantasy football still counts as fantasy!

''{Open Source Greg appears, holding a box of food.}''

'''OPEN SOURCE GREG:''' Gentlemen, I've taken advantage in a security flaw in the concession stand mainframe and bit-torrented us some Sugar Daddys and hot dogs!

'''JAPANESE CULTURE GREG:''' But the concession stand is just some booster club okasan ''{the word in the text bubble is "moms" until he gets to it; his face returns to the "anime" style on that word alone}'' with a shoebox full of ones.

'''OPEN SOURCE GREG:''' Then who did I launch my denial of service attack against?

''{Cut to a drawing of a computer screen. The computer is in a browser, on the page "www.tompkins.tv", which is for "Tompkins' Hot Lady Escort Service". Tompkins' face is in the middle of the screen. The page has been viewed "2.4" times.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a high-pitched voice; the word appears across the screen as he says it}'' HAXXORED!!!

'''TOMPKINS:''' Ow! All my client!

''{Cut back to the game. D N'D and Science Fiction Greg are in the background, as Cheerleader and a short bespectacled girl in braces walk by.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Didja hear when we walked through the seniors' section? That one boy only got BOTH my names wrong!

'''SHORT GIRL:''' You have been chosen.

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Uh, Cheerleader, shouldn't you be out—

''{Cut to a closeup of his mouth, showing misshapen teeth.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Uuuuuhhhhhh...

''{Cut back.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' —leading cheers?

'''CHEERLEADER:''' No, I'm more a cheerleader in the way I dress... and in the way I treat other girls.

'''SHORT GIRL:''' That's right.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{smacks the short girl, yelling:}'' YOU DON'T SPEAK UNLESS SPOKEN TO!

''{Cut to a ratty-looking mascot.}''

'''MASCOT:''' COME ON GROWLBACKS! WE'RE NOT DEAD! AT LEAST TRY TO BEAT THE SPREAD!

''{He does a cartwheel near an exasperated-looking color guard member.}''

'''MASCOT:''' YAAAAY!

''{Cut to D N'D Greg.}''

'''D N'D GREG:''' That level 4 shambling Krenshar is attacking that slightly attractive, slightly overweight color guard maiden!

''{He is then seen stomping on the mascot. The color guard member smirks lightly.}''

'''MASCOT:''' Oh! Crap! Dang! Ribs! Oof!

''{He takes off the mascot head.}''

'''REGULAR GREG:''' Stop! It's just me, Regular Greg from AP Calculus!

'''D N'D GREG:''' Trying to take human form, eh? I'll not fall for your sorcery, shapeshifter!

''{He continues stomping on Regular Greg. Cut to a hot dog with a face.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Halftime!

''{Cut to Science Fiction Greg.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' There's a... halph-thyme?

''{Cut back to all four Gregs.}''

'''OPEN SOURCE GREG:''' Uh-oh.

''{A bunch of football players crowd around the Gregs and chuckle to themselves. Cut to a scene of some underwear and jock straps flying around, with the words "EXPLiCiT WEDGiE!!" in the middle.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a high-pitched voice}'' EXPLICIT WEDGIE!!

''{Cut to the Teen Girl Squad. They've actually been the ones drawing the cartoon. They laugh as "HA HA HA HA"s move around above them.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Those Gregs are such losers!

''{Cut to the Gregs. They've actually been drawing the Teen Girl Squad drawing the cartoon.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Hey! No way! Whats-Her-Face would totally come to my defense!

''{Cut to the Teen Girl Squad, with Cheerleader drawing the previous scene.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Ew! Don't put that! No I wouldn't!

''{Cut to the Gregs, as D N'D Greg draws the previous scene.}''

'''OPEN SOURCE GREG:''' Now make them have a pillow fight!

''{Cut to the Teen Girl Squad.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Make them play with action figures!

''{Cut to the Gregs.}''

'''JAPANESE CULTURE GREG:''' ''{with his anime face}'' AKIHABARA!

''{The Teen Girl Squad}''

'''SO AND SO:''' So good!

''{Gregs}''

'''D N'D GREG:''' SWORDS!

''{Girls}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' BOYS!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, drawing that last scene, falling over.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Waugh!!

''{He weakly holds up one hand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's... over?

''{Cut to the "4 Gregs" screen.}''

'''TEEN GIRL SQUAD VOICE:''' Four Gregs!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
* [[Wikipedia:Drifting (motorsport)|Drift racing]] is a style of car racing originating in Japan where drivers slide or drift through corners at high speed. The sport has been featured in a number of manga and anime.
* [[Wikipedia:Otaku|Otaku]] is a Japanese word denoting a fan of something. Outside of Japan, it denotes specifically a fan of Japanese popular culture.
* [[Wikipedia:Akihabara|Akihabara]] is a shopping district of Tokyo specializing in electronics, computer, and pop-culture goods.
* "Okasan", properly romanized as "okāsan" or "okaasan", is a formal word for "mother" in Japanese.
* A [[Wikipedia:Denial-of-service attack|denial-of-service attack]] is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users and is often considered a crime.
* [[Wikipedia:BitTorrent_(protocol)|BitTorrent]] is a peer-to-peer file sharing protocol used for sharing large amounts of data.
* [http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_it_mean_to_beat_the_spread "Beating the spread"] is a phrase in [[Wikipedia:Spread betting|spread betting]] referring to whether the difference of the two scores in the outcome of an event is above or below a predetermined amount.
* [[Wikipedia:Open source|Open source]] is an approach to design, development, and distribution offering practical accessibility to a product's source (goods and knowledge).

===Trivia===
* The 4 Gregs comic is drawn on hexagonal-grid paper, commonly used for table top role playing games.
* The toons menu description reads "The spin-off no one was asking for!"
* The full text of the scroll with the rules of football reads:
<blockquote>The offensive team has 4 
chances to advance the ball 
10 yards at a time with the 
objective being to cross the 
opposing teams goal line 
using either running plays 
or passing plays or any 
combination thereof.</blockquote>
*[http://tompkins.tv/ Tompkins' Hot Lady Escort Service] later became a real website, containing a link to the 4 Gregs toon, and a link to this page.

===Remarks===
* During the title sequence, D N'D Greg, Open Source Greg and Japanese Culture Greg have four, four, and five fingers, respectively, despite the fact that all the Gregs (and indeed almost all Teen Girl Squad characters) are normally drawn with only 3 fingers.
*The notion for a spinoff based on the Gregs was previously entertained in the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11#Commentary Transcript|DVD commentary]] for [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]].
*The TV Time [[HR:menuswfs/menu_4gregs.swf|menu preview]] shows Japanese Culture Greg holding a different robot from that shown in the actual toon.

===Inside References===
* Open Source Greg and Japanese Culture Greg were previously seen, though unnamed at the time, in the Easter egg for [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]].
** The page title is also a reference to that issue.
*This is another appearance of [[thyme]] and [[Internet slang]].
*D N'D Greg has [[fangs]] when explaining football with the scroll.
*The toons menu description is a reference to the Easter egg in [[Teen Girl Squad issue 14]].
* "Ow! All my client!" is another use of [[Ow! My X!]].
* The Mascot stating "AT LEAST TRY TO BEAT THE SPREAD" in his cheer is an instance of [[gambling]].
* Science Fiction Greg believes that What's Her Face will defend him because they dated previously, as revealed in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]].

===Real-World References===
[[Image:Speechbapple.PNG|thumb|"Into the Apple store?"]]
*Open Source Greg mentions the [[Wikipedia:Apple Store|Apple Store]]. As he does this, the edge of his speech bubble turns into Apple's logo.
* The text on Cheerleader's shirt is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Hollaback Girl|Hollaback Girl]].
* A [[Wikipedia:Sugar Daddy (candy)|Sugar Daddy]] is a caramel lollipop made by Tootsie Roll Industries.
* Open Source Greg's laptop/hot dog box has a picture of a penguin on it, a reference to [[Wikipedia:Tux|Tux]], the mascot of the open source operating system [[Wikipedia:Linux kernel|Linux]].
* The "shambling Krenshar" that D N'D Greg mentions is a [[portmanteaus|portmanteau]] of two monsters from [[Wikipedia:Dungeons_&_Dragons|Dungeons_&_Dragons]]. The [http://www.rpdia.net/wiki/Shambling_mound shambling mound] is a carnivorous ambulatory plant monster, and the [http://www.rpdia.net/wiki/Krenshar krenshar] is a feline predator that can retract the skin on its face to frighten opponents.

==External Links==
*[[HR:4gregs.html|Watch "4 Gregs"]]
*[[HR:4gregs.swf|View the Flash file for "4 Gregs"]]
*[[Forum:15115|Forum thread RE: "4 Gregs"]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

Talk:Workin' on the Game

Alun Clewe — Mon, 05 May 2008 21:09:41 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* BASIC program */

== BASIC program ==

I couldn't quite tell what the command on line 5 is. It looks a whole lot like "MORE", but that's not a BASIC command as far as I know. Since it's possible TBC weren't being strictly accurate here, I went ahead and put it, but I'm interested to know if others see the same thing. Also, the last line looks like it contains a "9". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:That's what I see too, as best as I can tell. I'll have another look at it later, though I'm not sure if my eyes will be any more powerful then... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Screen Workin' on the Game.PNG]]
:::It's the best I can see too. The only alternative that comes up is "HOME" instead of "MORE", but that wouldn't really be any better? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Actually, yes, that would be ''much'' better. HOME, unlike MORE, ''is'' a BASIC command, which clears the screen and is (was) often used as the first line of a program. Granted, the word is very difficult to make out on the angled screen, but I think it's much more likely to be HOME than MORE, given that the former actually makes sense as the first line of a program, and the latter doesn't. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 21:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::No doubt in my mind that that says HOME - and that makes way more sense -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

== Pink shirt guy really sounds like Coach Z. ==

Yep, he does.

-Alex H.
: Remember, it's one [[Matt Chapman|voice actor]] doing almost all of the voices. Some are going to inevitably sound similar. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Legal

Alun Clewe — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:40:18 GMT

Alun Clewe: /**/"Strong Bad's Bored Games"

This needs a screenshot. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
:Well, I added a screenshot. It's of when Homestar says "Boring!". -[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]] 14:52, 2 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Counter? ==

I don't see a "counter" counting down to when Homestar comes in. Perhaps it's my browser ([http://www.apple.com/safari Safari 1.2.4] on Mac OS X 10.3.6), but everything else seems to be the same on the entire H*R site. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:31, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

You're right. It doesn't exist. Removed the reference :) --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 15:54, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

Yes it is there, actually. You have to resize your browser window to make it much wider than it is tall, and you have to view the Flash file, not the HTML page. You will see a counter count from 0 to 25 in small black type to the left of the top part of the privacy policy window. After Homestar leaves, it goes back to 0 and stays at 0. --[[User:71.244.185.34|71.244.185.34]] 00:53, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw it. It's definitely there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:And I'ma adding it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:44, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== Viewing the whole thing works... ==

"You cannot view the entire terms of use unless you switch to text mode, highlight the text with your mouse, or use the scroll wheel on your mouse. In the normal legal page, the terms of use stops a couple of lines before Jurisdictional Issues. If you switch to text mode, highlight the text, or use a scroll wheel, you can see the entire terms of use including the Jurisdictional Issues section."

Seems to work fine for me. I can drag the Flash scroll bar and see the full text (the only other way I can think of than the above) and this works under both Safari 2.0 and Firefox 1.0.4. Did this issue get fixed on the h*r site?

== DVD ref ==

one of the Strong Bad email DVDs, the FBI Warning has Homestar walking in and saying "Bo-ring!" --[[User:Jetamoo|Coach J]] 18:09, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:Actually the DVD is referencing this page, as this page existed for a long time before the DVDs. It's already noted on the DVD page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::So I added it as a fast forward. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== Highlighting ==

You can highlight the words on the page. Also, if you find the number countdown on the flash file, you can highlight that too.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, it ''is'' a TXT file. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Speaking of .txt files, where's the http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/file_icon.gif that comes with the link? Is that overwritten by the http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/hr.png? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I see the regular http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/hr.png logo. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== Scrolling down ==

Are they ever going to fix this? I sent them an email about it, like, four years ago. I suppose I doesn't really matter as the text version is available... --[[User:84.65.22.233|84.65.22.233]] 20:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

== "Strong Bad's Bored Games" ==

I strongly suspect that the most recent edit--about the link to "Strong Bad's Bored Games" popping up if you left the page up a (suspiciously unspecified) while--is a hoax, but I didn't want to just go ahead and delete it without being absolutely sure (and the fact that the length of the "while" isn't stated makes it difficult to definitively falsify). Can anyone verify for sure that this alleged Easter Egg doesn't exist? -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 10:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

pizza joint

Alun Clewe — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:56:37 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Real-World References */ Corrected typo (Indianda -> Indiana)

{{sbenav|179}}
[[Image:SBemail179.PNG|thumb|200px|"Um, The Pizz? Thanks for calling?"]]

To attract girls, Strong Bad "opens" a pizza joint, which accidentally becomes a success.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Daphne|Daphne]], {{film|Cheerleader}}, {{film|So and So}}, {{film|What's Her Face}}, {{film|The Ugly One}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[The Pizz]], the [[Review Revue]], [[The King of Town's Grill]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, September 24, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:09

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Let a lil' email into your heart, and it'll clog your arteries!
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: sbemails!!</div>
Hey there Strong Bad, 
As a typical college girl I was wondering if there is a 
pizza joint somewhere in Strongbadia...you know, if me and 
my girls wanted to come hang out sometime. 
Hopeful in Pennsylvania, 
Daphne
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad gets more and more excited as he reads the last two lines}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' BLARG! ''{typing}'' Yes, We have a pizza joint! ''{Cut to the computer room; Strong Bad flails his arms wildly}'' I gots me a pizza joint! ''{Strong Bad falls off his chair and then rolls off the screen}'' Always been at the pizza joint! Come to the pizza joint with me!

''{Cut to Strong Badia. Strong Bad is standing behind a cardboard box, on which The Cheat is busy writing "Strong Bad's Strong Badian PIZZ". They are surrounded by "Neighborhood Style" pizza boxes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hurry up with that sign, The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{annoyed The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{walks to the front}'' No, no, no, that's already way too long. We need something short and catchy that Daphne and her girls can say real quick. You know, like, "The Max", or "The Emporium". It's never gonna work if they have to be like:

''{Cut to a Teen Girl Squad scene. Cheerleader and So and So are wearing towels. What's Her Face is wearing her regular clothes. The Ugly One is dressed like a mummy in a sarcophagus. Daphne is there too, wearing a towel with "Daph" written on it.}''

'''DAPHNE:''' Hey gals! Let's towel off and meet up at ''{words appear on screen as they are said}'' Strong Bad's Strong Badian pi-

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{interrupting}'' This is taking too long!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I'm already bored!

'''SO AND SO:''' I'm going home!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I belong in a museum!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad and The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' College girls don't have that kind of time, man. We gotta strike while the girl is still hot!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{exasperated The Cheat noises; he crosses out "Strong Bad's Strong Badian" and writes "The" below it. The sign now reads "The Pizz"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah! The Pizz! I love it!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm, yeah. Lemme get a slice of p-roni, with some t-sauce, and ''{squinting}'' m-rooms.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar, get outta here! We're not a real pizza place! This is just a front to meet some girls!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ohhhhh. Lemme get a calzone, then. With, uh, p-loaf and m-cheese.

''{phone rings}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the- Hang on a sec. ''{picks up a phone}'' Uhh... The Pizz? Thanks for calling? ''{Homestar leaves}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Yeah, lemme get about 50 Thanksgiving Lovers pizzas delivered to the only castle around here!

'''STRONG BAD:''' King of Town? How did you even know about this place?

''{Close in on Strong Bad, with the screen split to show the King of Town on the other end}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Well, if you ''must'' know, I spend most of my day calling random numbers in hopes of finding a new restaurant!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, we're not a real place. ''{footsteps offscreen}'' We're just a-

''{Cut back to Strong Badia. Homestar pops up wearing a The Pizz shirt and hat. The Cheat is also wearing a hat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{zooms in at each sentence}'' Table 44 needs more breadsticks! The soccer team left without paying! And the delivery guy got a flat!

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you talking about? Weren't you just a customer?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, but The Cheat hired me for the lunch rush. I mean, hey! Somebody's gotta make that muh-ney! ''{runs off}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is all wrong! ''{cuts back to Strong Badia}'' The Cheat, in our effort to make a pretend pizza place in order to score some chicks, we somehow created a successful and well-reviewed actual pizza place!

''{static; cut to Strong Sad standing in front of a sign that reads "Review Revue"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Rustic and filled with old-world cardboard charm, the Pizz serves up Strong Badian-style pizza at a price that won't leave a dent in your wallet!

''{during the second half of the preceding line, the Pizz's logo rolls in from the right; at the end, a green check mark and the text "pick!" appears with a "ding"}''

''{cut back to Strong Bad and The Cheat in Strong Badia}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Maybe we're going about this the wrong way, The Cheat. Girls don't wanna meet people in person anymore! They wanna meet 'em online!

''{cut to a view of the Lappy 486 with a nondescript web browser open; the text "<nowiki>http://www.virtualpizz.biz</nowiki>" is typed into the location bar}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Welcome to virtualpizz.biz!

''{The screen turns green with the text "Virtualpizz.biz" and a button that says "login", a cursor moves over the button and clicks it. The screen changes to show a picture of a piece of pizza with eyes, arms and legs; to the left are buttons saying "eyes", "hair", "mouth", "nose", "topping" and "crust".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where typical college girls can customize their own slice of pizza for some serious social networking.

''{The cursor moves around and clicks the various buttons; the features in question change with each click. The screen then changes two show two of the slices of pizza in Strong Badia with Strong Bad. The lower left corner reads, "Pizz Points $500".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' With me!

'''COMPUTERIZED STRONG BAD:''' ''{his lines appear in orange bubbles above him}'' Sup, Ladies. Welcome to the Pizz!

'''SLICE OF PIZZA ON THE LEFT:''' ''{in Homestar Runner's voice, line appears in a red bubble above him}'' Hey man, can I get a slice of p-roni?"

'''SLICE OF PIZZA ON THE RIGHT:''' ''{in the King of Town's voice, line appears in a purple bubble above him}'' I'd like to place a pick-up order.

'''COMPUTERIZED STRONG BAD:''' You're not Daphne, you're... pizza trolls! Flame war!!

''{both slices of pizza catch fire and start running away}''

'''SLICE OF PIZZA ON THE RIGHT:''' It burns!

'''SLICE OF PIZZA ON THE LEFT:''' Ahhhhhhhh!

'''COMPUTERIZED STRONG BAD:''' Well, I guess I should spend all these Pizz points.

''{The number of Pizz points decreases and objects appear in Strong Badia: The arcade game and couch from the Basement and Homestar's dresser and cow lamp. The right fence is then painted like the Basement, the left pink with blue dots. Cut back to Strong Sad. As he does so, his $500 in Pizz Points drops with each item, eventually ending at "$-51".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' With a clunky UI and a played-out avatar system, Virtualpizz.biz misses the mark!

''{During the preceding, the logo for Virtualpizz.biz enters from the right, at the end, a red X with text "Miss!" appears over it with a buzzer sound.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That, and every time I tried to add Strong Bad to my Pizz list, he'd call me Thelonious Dump!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy 486}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, I'm all outta ideas. I dunno how to get Daphne and her girls to come to my pizza joint.

''{Zoom out to a view of The Cheat standing to the right of Strong Bad}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What do you mean, they're at your pizza joint? What pizza joint? The Pizz has ''competition''?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises; makes a beckoning motion with his arm}''

''{Cut to the King of Town's barbecue, which has "CHEATSA PIZZA" written on a strip of masking tape on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' That's your pizza joint.

''{Zoom out to show Strong Bad and The Cheat next to the barbecue}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Grill with some tape on it.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{smiles, affirming The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lemme see this.

''{Strong Bad opens the grill; balloons and confetti come out and high pitched, exciting voices are heard. Zoom out to a silhouette of the same scene as the balloons drift off-screen. Zoom back in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{covers barbecue again}'' The Cheat, this is amazing! Count me in! ''{sotto voce}'' Do you guys take Pizz points?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirming The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Count me in!

''{Strong Bad opens the barbecue and jumps in; The Cheat follows him. The grill shuts behind them. The grill opens again and The Cheat partially emerges, covered in lipstick.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat goes back into the barbecue and it shuts. The King of Town enters from the left carrying a lighter, a can of gasoline, a container of lighter fluid that reads "Lite em up Dan" and a bag of charcoal that reads "King of Town Charcoal!"}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Doo doo doot doot doo!

''{Cut back to the Lappy 486. The [[New Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "girls" at the end to see an extra scene with Strong Sad.
:''{Strong Sad at the Review Revue}''
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Strong Bad phones this one in with Strong Bad Email 179. ''{sbemail179.html slides at the bottom of the screen}'' Despite a strong showing from fan favorite Strong Sad, ''{slaps his stomach}'' the email ultimately fizzles due to a heavy reliance on what can only be called "internet pizza jokes". ''{a red X reading "MISS!" appears on top of sbemail179.html}''
*Click on "pizza joint" at the end to see an extra scene with Homestar.
:''{Homestar is dressed in his "The Pizz" uniform, dancing on a blue background}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Party! Cheatsa Party!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*A [[wikipedia:Calzone|calzone]] consists of pizza toppings and ricotta cheese wrapped inside a large piece of pizza dough.
*A [[Wikipedia:Flame War|flame war]] is a common message board term for a heated (and hateful) argument.
*A [[Wikipedia:Troll (Internet)|Troll]] is a common message board term used for people who "flame" other users and incite arguments and flame wars.
*"UI" stands for [[Wikipedia:User interface#User interfaces in computing|user interface]], the design of a program (or web page) and how users can interact with it.
*An [[Wikipedia:Avatar_(virtual_reality)|"avatar"]] is an Internet user's representation of himself or herself, in this case, a model used in the social networking site of Virtual Pizz.
*Strong Bad's "We gotta strike while the girl is still hot" is a play on the expression regarding needing to "strike while the iron is hot."

===Trivia===
*[http://virtualpizz.biz www.virtualpizz.biz] is a real fan-created website that was registered about half an hour after this email debuted. The site features the login page from the email. An [[easter egg]] reveals a link to an [http://virtualpizz.biz/about.html about page].
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#D|D]]".
*This is the first email since the debut of New Paper not to end with a complaint about it from Strong Bad.
*The bushes in The Field are rendered in a previously unseen style.
*The "Pizz Points" for each item are: $50 for [[TROGDOR!]] $150 for the [[Couch]], $50 for the stand, $1 for the [[Cow Lamp]], and $150 points for each wallpaper. The total Pizz Points for all items is $551 — leaving Strong Bad $51 in debt.
*In 2001, [[The Brothers Chaps]] worked on a Flash site for [[Mellow Mushroom]], a pizza joint.
*This is another instance of [[Strong Sad smiling]], which occurs while he's reviewing The Pizz.

===Goofs===
*In the Strong Sad review easter egg, part of the Sbemail179.html shadow is missing until Strong Sad pats his belly.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When this e-mail was first released, black dots flashed on Homestar's face when the camera zoomed in on him talking.

===Inside References===
*This email prominently features [[pizza]].
*Strong Bad complained about not getting emails from college girls in [[hygiene]].
*Strong Bad again says [[competition]].
*[[Credenza]] is seen in the background of the Review Revue.
*The background of the Review Revue is from [[pizzaz]].
*The King of Town uses "Light 'Em Up [[Dan]]" brand lighter fluid.
*Strong Bad spends his virtual "Pizz Points" on the [[TROGDOR!|Trogdor]] stand-up arcade cabinet from [[Arcade Game]], [[The Couch|the couch]] from Strong Bad's basement, and Homestar's [[cow lamp]].
*The music playing on Review Revue is from [[portrait]].
*"Cheatsa parties" were previously mentioned in [[mile]], and Homestar's Easter egg dance is identical to the broken animation of a [[:Image:headlessdance.gif|headless Homestar dancing]] found at the end of the Flash file. This may be a clue that the Easter egg was originally going to be used in "mile" when you clicked on "pizza parties", but was later replaced.
*The sides of the pizza boxes read "Pizza Box" / "Neighborhood [[Style]]".
*Strong Sad acknowledges he is in a sbemail and points to the URL bar, which is a [[fourth wall break]].
**In addition, the URL appearing on the screen also breaks the fourth wall.
*The "CHEATSA PiZZA" sign is a use of [[lowercase i's]].
*The sound made when Strong Sad slaps his belly is the same as in [[One Two, One Two]].

===Real-World References===
*The Max, one of Strong Bad's examples for shorter names, is a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]]''.
*The King of Town ordering "Thanksgiving Lovers" pizzas is a reference to pizza shops that sell "Meat Lovers" or "Veggie Lovers" pizzas, particularly [[Wikipedia:Pizza Hut|Pizza Hut]].
*VirtualPizz.biz spoofs commercial social massively multi-player online games such as [[Wikipedia:Habbo Hotel|Habbo Hotel]], [[Wikipedia:Club Penguin|Club Penguin]], and [[Wikipedia:Coke Music| Coke Music]].
*Homestar's Easter egg song is based on a commercial for the [http://www.inthe80s.com/toys/pizzaparty.shtml Pizza Party] board game.
*Strong Bad's nickname for Strong Sad, "Thelonious [[Dump]]", is a reference to famous jazz pianist [[wikipedia:Thelonious Monk|Thelonious Monk]].
*The Pizza Trolls were antagonists characters in the "Pizza Pass" puzzle in [[wikipedia:Zoombinis|The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis]] game made by [[wikipedia:Brøderbund|Brøderbund Software]].
*The line "I belong in a museum" spoofs the classical line from [[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade|Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade]], which was also spoofed by some of the old [[Wikipedia:LucasArts|LucasArts]] games.

==External Links==
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= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Trogdor! </div> =

== Mean to young people? ==

You're my least favorite admin ever.
:Well, <s>''Bubsty''</s> (I was close. See below), one of the things you learn as an admin is that you can't please everybody all the time. I am, however, open to constructive criticism, so I'm a little disappointed that you didn't give me any more to go on than that one line. Or that you didn't at least sign your name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
::What? Did Bubsty write that? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Indeed. ''EDIT: Actually, his sister said that it was she who wrote the comment.'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Or perhaps somebody from his computer or something. He did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=241561 refer to Bubsty in the third person]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did this person edit da Basement? Didn't you block him for 3 days, TBird? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, he did, but I unblocked the IP, since the edit wasn't trolling or vandalism. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I see. And in response to Thunderbird's comment: I don't know that third person is really evidence it wasn't he; he could have been covering his tracks. What ''does'' baffle me, however, is that that IP wrote false information about Bubsty's guestbook being gone, when in fact Bubsty himself removed the deletion tag from his guestbook, something one would think Bubsty would know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Haha, I just mentioned that point a minute ago. But on IRC- I didn't bother updating my theory here. Thanks for pointing that out. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::That was me! Not Erik! And he told me he left the wiki, so I thought he had deleted his guestbook too. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Sigh*. So much for me leaving. Seems I have some explaining to do. Some things to clear this whole thing up:
::::::::::First off, I '''''DID NOT''''' write that comment above. I recently showed Sarah the comment you left on my user talk page a while ago telling me to stop using the list of users list to welcome people. Although I really didn't care that much about what you had written, she seemed to think of it as rude and insulting. I assume that comment was her "blowing off steam".
::::::::::It seems Dot Com thinks Thekillerdynamo is me. If you still have any questions about this whole thing, ''please'' tell me. I'll try to explain it.
::::::::::Finally, I'm really sorry (not to mentioned embarrased), that this whole thing happened. I'll '''try''' to have something like this ''never'' happen again. (Depends if a certain family member agrees).
::::::::::Sincerely,
::::::::::{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, as you can see below, all I knew for sure was that the edits were coming from your house. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
You do a lot on this wiki, but you're mean to the young people here. 10, 11, 12, and 13 year olds shouldn't have to act like a 28-year-old!
Can't you just be a ''bit'' nicer? I think more people would like you then.
Please; I'm not trolling - although I did blank your talk page. But that was so you would see this easier.
If you revert it (which I'm sure you will) can you at least think about being ''nicer''?
Once again, sorry for messing up your talk page. Just please read. Thanks! [[User:24.18.208.18|24.18.208.18]] 04:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: I think you're still a good admin. Just show some commen sense. (Of course, I should talk; Look who's about to get themselves blocked!)
:PPS: Oh, and about my first edit on this page; I admit that was me. But that was back when I didn't know what a wiki was and didn't know who you were. You ''aren't'' my least favorite admin ever. In fact, you're one of my favs! If you want to block me for that, go ahead; I deserve it.
::Why don't you log in so we can discuss this. Talking through an IP address isn't the kind of conversation we should be having. I'm not going to block you. If I wanted to block you, I would have blocked your IP a long time ago. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok, I made a user. [[User:That One User|That One User]] 06:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't mean make a sockpuppet, I mean log in as yourself. You have obviously been around for a bit for you to hold the opinion you do, and, looking closely, you are either Bubsty or, at the very least, someone inside his house. So, c'mon now, Erik, Sarah, whoever... log in for real if you actually want to talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did you know? [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 00:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hang on now, let me make sure I have this right... You're telling me that someone who has [[Special:Contributions/Thekillerdynamo|18 total contributions]] (as of this writing, none of which are in the article namespace) and to whom the only thing [[User talk:It's dot com/These Peoples Try to Fade Me#Hi_from_Thekillerdynamo|I've ever said]] is "Welcome to the wiki, Sarah! Ask your brother to show you how to sign your name," would suddenly and for no apparent reason get so annoyed with me as to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=240812&oldid=240757 put this] on my page? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't add up. Perhaps you could explain yourself a little... or come clean. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Seems odd right? Actully, I've just seen what you've said to other people (like the thing) and what you said to Bubsty that one time. That was why I said "you're my least favorite admin ever". When you said that thing about user welcoming... something like that. But I'm not mad anymore. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: Oh, okay then. Please allow me to speak to your points: Occasionally messages must be posted that are stern because it's urgent that the message be understood. (In the case of the message I sent your brother, it was because of the fact that edit summaries can't be changed, and so we have to be careful what we put in them.) I do try, however, never to be insulting, and as I said way back when, I do apologize if he took it that way. Also, I have nothing against young users, and I will happily give assistance to anyone who needs it (just have a look around this talk page). It should be noted that several of our exceptional users, including a sysop, are quite young, relatively speaking. Even though actual age doesn't matter, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a certain level of maturity from our users, once they've had a chance to get the hang of things. The wiki, after all, is not a toy. I think BazookaJoe put it quite well in his message to The thing when he talked about what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:The_thing&oldid=242251 the purpose] of this wiki is. All of this can only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's [[caffeine#Transcript|adopted]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Well this is (not) nice... ==

I'd just like to bring this to your attention: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Homestar_Coder&diff=242152&oldid=242150]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I noticed that. I don't know what that guy's deal is. He is addressing Coder, so I'd prefer she be the one to respond to him. That edit could be called trolling (in the true sense of the word), but it's not vandalism. Until and unless he causes more, bigger trouble, I'ma stay out of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::I was thinking it was more along the lines of harassment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Still, if she wants to block him, she has the power. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Very well I just thought I'd bring that up. Have a good night. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for bringing it up. I'll be keeping an eye on that guy for sure. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::This guy has some kind of anger management problem, and I think not responding to him is the best course of action. I don't even know where he gets this stuff; I've never blocked him (although I did warn him that he might be blocked for mucking up the Sandbox), called him any names (especially not "incredibly gay" - all the people I've known who are actually incredibly gay are far more mature than that guy ;) ), or confused him with Willy on Wheels. If he wants to periodically upchuck on my talk page, whatever. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Apparantly this is all because of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Character_Evolution&diff=next&oldid=175719 this revert]. I'm really confused as to how posting a few images constitutes two to three hours work as well as hating Homestar Coder for reverting it. Additionally, it didn't really fit; those images were all over the place. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought I [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#character evolution|explained reasonably]] that the pictures made the page cluttery; at the time, I was also trying to get that page deleted as I considered it redundant with [[:Category:Character Evolution]]. *shrug* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whoa! ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=243608&oldid=242626 Wow.] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC) (And here I was trying to come up with some cool archive style for mine...)
:It's dot com has archived his talk page? Saddle up my flying pig; I'm goin' ice skating in hell! (But seriously—I'm digging the topical groupings.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. I love that format! Keep on... making-great-stuff! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite impressive. Looks snazzy, and loads alot faster. Now we've just gotta convince [[User talk:Tom|Tom]]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::::This is the greatest thing ever. Would you mind terribly if I bit your style and did a similar thing? :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::With a comment like that, how could I possibly refuse? You are more than welcome to take my coolness and rework it to achieve your own brand of awesomeness. (Never mind all that GFDL nonsense.) :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::YAYZ. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== what happened ==

Hey it's dot com, what happened to your discussion page? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

:well, he archived it. this means that at the top, you can just go to the links and they will lead you to the headlines. pretty cool, huh?

::Yeah, I just couldn't take all the whining from all you guys anymore. ;) But I figured out a compromise between keeping all the talk on this page and moving it all to an archive, so I went with it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::i wasn't whining. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::::I know. But take a look through the archives and you'll find quite a few requests for me to do so, and there were innumerable chat conversations to that effect as well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== i believe... ==
that you are an amazing user. you are just in everything you do. i think it is inspiring how much you care for the betterment of the wiki. you block only the most important users. you recently blocked someone i know. i just want you to know that you are doing the right thing. thank you.
:Is this from [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]? If so, why would you want me to block your brother? You guys must be like my brothers and I are. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::yeah, he hates my guts. and that's why he will never disobey me and come on a website too cool for him again. heheheh....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== I want to be a sysop ==

Do you no wen the next sysop election is gonna be? {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:Depends on several things. Why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::I wanna be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Really? How come? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I want to be a sysop. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Right. You just said that. I'm asking why you want to be a sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Because I want to be able to: Block, Delete, Edit special pages... all the stuff sysops can do. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Why do you want to be able to do all those things? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I can't really explain it but I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, ''try'' to explain. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. Like people that should of been blocked pages that needed deletion plus I want to help the wiki as much as I can. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Who needs to be blocked? Which pages need deletion? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well there gone now but there used to be some. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::What's gone? The people, or the pages? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::If there is a person abusing the Wiki, or a page that doesn't have any need, there are ways of alerting sysops even if you're not one (add abusers to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] and add the "tobedeleted" template to bad pages.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Both are gone but the main reason I want to be a sysop is so I can help the wiki as much a possible. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::It's admirable to want to help the wiki. We need as many people—sysops and users alike—who will do that.     Around here, we consider several factors when choosing whom to make sysops, and the most important consideration is trustworthiness. A close second is participation in the project. Rounding out the top six are the ability to deal with other users (especially in mediating disputes or deciding when to step in), technical know-how, the necessity for another position (that is, whether or not the wiki needs more sysops at any given time), and finally seniority. ([[bottom 10|Number seven]] on the top-six list is [[Senor Cardgage|senority]], which is the ability to make bad H*R-related jokes.)     With those things in mind, at this time I would not be comfortable with making you a sysop. Not long ago, you vandalized this wiki and less than a day ago you were blocked from the fanstuff wiki for persistent trolling. I think it will take a while for people to trust you again after that. Additionally, you currently don't meet the [[User_talk:It%27s_dot_com/Let%27s_Get_Started_on_Doing_All_Those_Awesome_Things_I_Suggested#How_to_become_a_sysop|participation requirements]]. That is, you really don't have that many edits in the main or talk namespace nor have you done a big project. I haven't seen how you handle stress or abuse from problematic users and I don't know the status of your technical know-how (again, because I don't have a large sample of edits from which to judge). Last (and this one matters the least to me but is nevertheless important) there's the question of seniority: In other words, even if all else were equal, quite a few deserving people have been here a lot longer than you, and would thus be ahead of you in line whenever we promote the next user(s).     Please don't think I'm trying to be overly discouraging, but your persistence in asking has made me want to be as unambiguous as possible. (By the way, asking for a position of power—no matter where you are (except maybe Wikipedia)—is a sure way to guarantee that the position will ''not'' be handed to you. Just so you know.) I encourage you to read the link above about the requirements and follow its advice. Over time, perhaps a long time, if you make good contributions and keep your nose clean, then you might be more seriously considered. Until then, keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::Darn --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

To The Thing: Personally, I'd love to be able to do all those things as well, but being given a position of power doesn't come free - [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|You just gotta ''earn'' it!]] And to It's dot com: I found this whole conversation quite amusing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps there should be a page devoting to answering the question "How do I become a sysop?" I see it asked a LOT. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps part of the FAQ? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I really liked your idea, KieferSkunk, and decided to '''be bold''' and add it myself. It's composed mainly from the large paragraph above, but also from the talk section it links to, and my personal knowledge. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::'''It's dot com:''' Yada yada yada sysop yada yada trust yada seniority yada yada yada edits yada yada yada long speech yada yada... 
:::'''The thing:''' Darn 
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. No offense to either of you. I just found that funny.
::::One other thing, Thing: as I'm sure any of the sysops can tell you, it might not be as fun as it looks from the other side of the fence. It means a butteload of ''work'', and a commitment to a certain amount of involvement and responsibilities. It's like the Spiderman thing (you know, "With great power...). (Except it ''doesn't'' come with the ability to swing through Manhattan streets in spandex.) Also, about helping the wiki: yeah, deleting pages and blocking folks help, but it's really only a small percentage of the work that improves the wiki: the bulk of it is regular users editting and reviewing each other's edits. In other words, you ''already'' have the power for the single biggest part of wiki-helping that goes on. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Nevermind I'm a sysop on [http://weirdal.wikicities.com/ My own wiki] now. But it would still be cool to be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

If I may throw in my own perspective on this, "with great power comes great responsibility." From what I've observed, being a sysop means making a lot of tough judgement calls, speaking nicely to people when you'd rather not, getting blamed for just about anything that goes wrong (real or perceived) and a lot of really hard work. Given all that, I'm not really clear on why someone would want that job so much, but I have nothing but admiration for the people who do it. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 01:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== i'm back ==
hey, it's dot com. i just got unblocked this morning. i want to say you did the right thing, and that now i will probably be spending less time on the wiki, so when i get blocked the next time it won't suck so bad. ah well. anyway, like i said, you did the completely right thing, and i hope you become an admin for what you did. thanks.
p.s. if i get blocked another time, please make it indefinite. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:um....[[User: Yeltensic]] just made a rude remark on the guestbook discussion page, and you should check it out. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I am aware of it and have posted comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::good. that was just plain crude. if he pulls some stunt like that again just because [[User: Darth Katana X|Darth Katana X]] told him to, i suggest you block him. look on yeltensic's talk page if you don't know what i am talking about. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 15:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Well I found out about the discussion from Darth, but I didn't "pull some stunt like that" because Darth told me to, he didn't tell me to do that. So leave Darth out of it, he didn't do anything (well maybe he did, but if so it was unrelated). [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 21:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I apoligize. I now understand. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== That image ==

Just so you know, the reason I restored that image for "[[It's like it was meant to be]]" is just because Homestar Coder and Abdi both expressed their support for it and I felt that the person who removed it was acting rather unilaterally. I don't mind its removal as much if there's actually someone else who agrees about removing it, though. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, and Thunderbird has added a different image. Maybe this one will work well? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I don't have a super-strong opinion that page, but the first image just didn't seem to fit, in my opinion. I did have an idea, though (the Wagon Fulla Pancakes). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say the same about not having a super-strong opinion; I just wanted to see things done fairly. (I try not to be too committed to my own ideas around the wiki. I find it only leads to disappointment when your edit gets reverted or your Fun Fact gets crushingly declined in STUFF. Not to mention you get along in the community better if you just go with the flow and be ready to get REVERT'd a few times, eh?) And yeah, I saw your new idea, and I think it's hilarious. "Rondelman, you crack me up! Crack! Me! Up! That's why you're my doge!" Anydangway, talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I added a link to the article cuz i wasn't sure at first which article you were talking about. I definitely like the new pic! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA ==

I wanted to know what you did to get CAPTCHA up and running on 1.5.6. I stopped by the IRC channel & was told to ask you about it. :) On freenode, I am earthsound (registered user). Also, you can reach me at gmail.com (same user name).
Thanks!
:(He and I spoke via the chat channel, and the gist of the discussion was that I was not the author of the software, just an assistant implementor, and I directed him to the software author. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC))

== The ongoing saga ==
um, someone left a message on my talk page stating that it was weird that trendy totebag did not sign on while i was blocked. i know i may be wrong, but i suspect the anonymous user was, well, you know enough to figure it out. the writing, the splling....it's all the same. you probably can't match the ip addresses, but i would like it if you did. or he just didn't leave a sig, and you can check the contribs. thank you. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Um, there's really no mystery, since he was logged in when he made that edit. I have taken care of it. *sigh* — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, you must be tired of our bickering. It seems i am stupid enough to not stop until i get blocked, so i guess i deserved to be. '''ah well.''' {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't mean to rub it in, but EIGHT MINUTES?! Nice, real nice. Eight min. is all it takes to get blocked. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Has Matt? ON WHEELS! ==

Thanks for clearing up all those page moves on my user space. I seriously was actually ''laughing'' the whole time it was happening. I think my userpage had at least 12 "ON WHEELS!" in the page title. My first time being WoW'd. Ever. Well, anyway, thanks a lot! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:No probalo. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow! someone must really like you! Ooo! ooo! Here's an idea (stemming from our basement discussion that should really go there but i'm sure the discussion has been archived): use the Captcha (ok maybe it's not such as hot of an idea now that i see the page move history) for making moves for all users (since we move pages seldom). But i guess these moves ''were'' done manually! Interesting. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I believe the CAPTCHA image is used in move processes for all users. I had to use it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah! you're right! It is! I just saw it when i hit the move button in your pa— *points* LOOK! *Runs away* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== .swf decompiler ==

Where did you find a .swf decompiler? Stuntman021

:I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler] by Eltima. A free download is available (which is the version I have, and it meets my needs pretty well), and the full version looks to have a lot of features. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== G'bye ==
dot, I think I am going to take a break from the wiki. I just wanted you to answer a question of mine: do you ever feel like the wiki ends up affecting more than just the wiki aspect of your life? I mean, Ciberdude's got my IM screenname and my email address, and he won't stop from either. I know you can't help me with this, but I think I have to make myself a little more discreet the next time I come on here. That's why I'm taking a break. Just act like I'm gone for good, okay? I'll be back soon, just not for a while. Thanks for all the privelages. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, giving out personal info can be useful, but it can come back to haunt you sometimes. Take care, man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::I will. And even if you lose your sysop privelages, block ciberdork while I am gone. I'll still edit anonymously. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Seriously, Seriously, you say the weirdest things. Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Seriosuly, Seriously. I mean Seriously. What. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::So, i finally learned to block email addresses, and IM ones too. So.....I guess I'm on the wiki again, and once again I am wildly exaggerating like I always do. Ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== What did you do ==
I would just like to make a counterpoint to hating guestbooks, even though the discussion is over. Have you ever thoguht how much sigs should be deleted? You must have, because if you are going to delete guestbooks like you did, the exact same reasons apply to sigs. People working on their sigs clutters up the recent changes, I know because I do it '''all the time'''. Sigs are not contributing to the wiki, just like you insist guestbooks don't. And finally, They give no proof that someone ever read your userpage, something that by the way is something that people either do or don't but that shouldn't matter to anyone else. I just think that What you and the admins did was entirely opinionated. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:No proof, eh? Well, I guess that someone could read a user page in a matter of seconds and then promptly sign a guestbook. Not all sigs clog recent changes, just yours. Sigs are a means of identifying a user, and thus serve a purpose. I am not meaning to reply for It's dot com, but I just wanted to say this. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::Also, I bet a lot of sig flooding could be stopped if people just used "Show Preview". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: Sigs exist anyway; you edit them in your user preferences (which does not show up on Recentchanges). The custom, however, is to create a User/sig template and use ''that'' as your sig. The User/sig versions are used because:
:::# They're easier to edit.
:::# If you edit one, ''all'' of your signatures change. If you edit the sig in your preferences, only ''future'' signatures change.
::: What's more, custom sigs of any sort allow links to your Talk or Contributions page, and make it easier to tell who's who (if you see a light blue sig with a green "Talk" area, it's probably me. If you see a gold-colored sig with symbols on both sides, it's likely Thunderbird. etc.) I'd take that over not being able to tell if I've previously read a user page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:::And, by the way, it was not the admins' decision to remove them; they may have started the voting, but ''everyone with a user name'' could vote. I abstained voting entirely because I don't really care. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Got it. Reluctantly. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry about re-making those User_talk:Drwho? pages. I wuz trying to mark them delete but you already deleted them. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's okay. Just remember to wait a couple of minutes between postings if you think that might be happening. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Two Questions ==

Hey Dot com, what's up? I have two questions. First, where did you post that discussion where someone was asking how to do links that were not underlined and you tried an example which didn't quite work correctly? (This is indirectly related:) I was wondering if you could take a look at [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|this]] issue. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:See [[#Super-plain_link]]. Note: old how-to questions from my talk page are filed under ''The System Is Down → Technical help''. On your second question, I'm not sure what you're asking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::For the first question, I looked briefly and couldn't find it (actually i scanned the page twice) but couldn't find it. I was scanning too quickly. As for the second issue, it turns out to be a firefox issue :(. Nerd42's sig goes beyond the table borders for some reason. I looked at the sig code and all the tags were closed off. I hope you have a copy of firefox to look at this cuz i'm not gonna provide a screenshot of it right away! ;) I gotta eat! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd post it in a more central place, like the FAQ talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Good idea! Just so you know, I found out another reason why you wouldn't be able to see it: resolution. The problem only happens when you wrap text a certain way. As a result, I have [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects#Strange|posted]] an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects&oldid=255516#Timeline_project update] and a [[:Image:Nerd42sigProblem.png|screenshot]] of the problem, as well as an inquiry in the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#Sig_image_bug|FAQ talk page]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== trolling ==

Just so I can learn the game a little more, how did you know that those last few blocks were Yeltensic, I looked in the user contribs and didn't see much. Teach me OB1, your my only hope :-P {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, often times he makes a remark that identifies him as, in fact, yeltensic. If he didn't do that, then I'll step aside and let dot comster answer this. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at the blcok log, and I have to admit I am confused. He must have matched the IP addresses. Also, there are two new users that are created. How do we know they're not yeltensic? {{User:Seriously/sig}}

:User:18593095NSMC90531234 wasn't trolling. I heard about the NSMC people but mabe this wasn't. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yes he was. I didn't say vandalism, I said trolling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::How? {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::I agree with The thing on this one. Even though he might look like NSMC at first glance, take a look at the article on Uncyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HRWIKI about our wiki]. At the near bottom, it says "If you happen to be new, register with the username: 18593095NSMC90531234 - Trust me, it'll be fun." This is the ''exact same username''. It seems to me that this guy just didn't know anything about NSMC or this wiki and got Punk'd. He wasn't doing anything bad (yet), so why block him because of "trolling"? Although I would suggest that he get a better username. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yea. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::LLok at this '''North Shore Medical Center''' same first letters. {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::::I know exactly where he got the username, and it's the reason I knew what his intentions were. Trolling is the (usually intentional) provocation of a person or community with the aim of getting a negative reaction. Even if he just did it on a lark (which I doubt), he should know better than to blindly follow instructions he came across in a place like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== seriosly ==

i dont think its fair to bann me every tiem I talk to seriously, he is a big user on the wiki and if i am to become a good contributor i will have to stop pretending he doesnt exist. i think i've been banned enough to know not to fight with him.— {{user:Ciberdude444/sig}} 22:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

:<s>I think your mom goes to college is not the person who sent this. But that's just me.</s> {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Troll==
Really bad troll attacking for 2 days at the fanstuff wiki, Joshua says he needs help. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

:What do you mean? I'm not sure that dot comster is a sysop there. If he is, please elaborate. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, he is. [[HRFWiki:User:Riley|Riley]]

:::Seriously: This is the third time ''in a row'' you have replied to messages on my page that weren't addressed to you. And in two of the three times, your reply was either wrong or didn't give any useful information. Please let me have the opportunity to reply to my own messages. Thank you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Riley: What's this guy's deal? Is he Clan or someone who just doesn't like Clan? What course of action would you like me to take? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

It's dot com: Sorry. Just trying to be helpful. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

:Um, he stopped, joshua wanted me to tell you earlier. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

::I enabled some more security that should limit him to one new vandal account at a time, and I scrubbed out some of the filthier usernames. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
Thanks for all the work with Babel! -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Babel ==

I understand why you think that the [[HRWiki:Babel|Babel]] towers will be better with the source code rather than the templates, but I really think that templates will make it a lot easier to use and more user friendly. I understand that there would be a lot, but noinclude tags could be used to keep track of them. Source code is fine, but do you think that I could at least try with Templates, and if it gets too confusing switch back to source code? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:I think we should try with the source code first. It's not too hard to get the hang of. (Besides, it's just copy and paste for most people. ;) ) I don't have a problem with a generic template, but we don't need to create a whole slew of them for a non-mainspace thing such as this. Plus, this way, people won't be limited by just the ones in the templates (although we do ask that they be Homestar Runner (or wiki) related). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== ciberdude444 ==

im not ciberdude, hes my brother, my computer is auto loged on and he used it to post that talk, i didnt say anyhting cause of the warm welcome i had at the wiki compared to my brother's fued and destruction it was better not to connect me with him in any way. — {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 20:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recent block ==
Umm... are you sure that IP you blocked recently is the right guy? Because I checked his contribs and he hasn't done anything vaguely trollish. Except, maybe for editing Tampo's sig and page, but Tampo din't seem to mind, which leads me to believe he ''is'' Tampo. If he's not, he still seems like a fine user. Any reason why you blocked him? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as A fweakin' chair
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Reverted
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Christian
:Yep, I'm pretty sure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
You've blocked a troll with the same IP adress as [[User:Tampo|Tampo]]. He is blocked for no reason. [[User:Stongbah|Stongbah]]
:Yea! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
::The IP in question was not blocked for no reason. It was being used (as you can see above) to create multiple accounts in a short amount of time, which were then being used for vandalism. I will unblock the IP for now, but I'll be keeping an eye on it. P.S. The thing: Exactly what was the point of your post? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I have no idea just kinda wanted to be in the conversation. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

== Arrested Development-apalooza ==
I wanted to make sure you heard about this. Fox is airing the last four episodes back to back on Friday, starting at 8pm. From one fan to another, {{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 23:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, we've already got the party planned! :) It's going to be bittersweet. I don't know whether to hold out hope for Showtime or not. And I wonder how they'll tie up the loose ends while leaving the door open a crack in case they do change networks. Hmm. Thanks for posting! Talk atcha later, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::Such a good show.....It pains me to see it go....{{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Admin sigs ==
Why do none of the admins excepy JoeyDay have customized their sigs? I'm thinking maybe you guys are too busy to do that stuff. Just wondering if you knew. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, that's not quite true, unless you have a very narrow definition of admin. If by admin you mean someone on the [[Template:adminteam|Admin Team]], then [[User:Stu|Stu]] definitely has a [[User:Stu/sig|signature]]. If you mean people who are on the Admin Team and are currently active in the day-to-day maintenance of the site, then you're right, only Joey has really customized his signature. Of the six of us, however, only [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] has no customization to speak of. [[User:Tom|Tom]], [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]], and I all have subtle modifications from the standard. If, on the other hand, when you say admins you mean sysops, then there is quite a bit of customization. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] and [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] have had special sigs for as long as I can remember, as have [[User:Jay|Jay]], [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]], [[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]], and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]. [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]'s modification is a slight tweak, and [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] and [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] haven't been here in a while. Even [[User:GrapeNuts|GrapeNuts]] (a bot) has a [[User:GrapeNuts/sig|sig]]. As for the heart of your question: Why do Tom, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]], and I have more or less "plain" signatures? Well, Tom's is like that because he's ornery about such things. BazookaJoe's and mine are like that because it just looks right. Since everyone else goes to such great lengths to customize their signatures, ''not'' doing so becomes a customization in itself. — [[User:It's dot com|''It's dot com'']] 23:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool font. I meant the admin team, without the sysops, By the way. Stu, well I've never actually seen him make an edit. Although I did hear that he was joey's friend. I just think that if you have a sig, you should make it have more convenience, like having a link to your talk page. Thnaks for the answer. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:And Dot com has toyed with his signature in the past [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 8#Towards a more standards-compliant signature|once or twice]], a long while back. That special sig you just made looks pretty cool, if you ever did decide to change it for good. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::GrapeNuts has a sig? Dot com customizing his!? What is the world coming to!? ''This message is {{User:GrapeNuts/sig}} approved (not really, I just wanted an excuse to use his sig :).'' --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Weird. And ''you'', thunderbird, had a blue sig. That scares me. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Um, I just wanted to know what subtle modifications you, Tom, and InterruptorJones have on your sig. Do you mean past versions? Also, what is DrHaggis's slight tweak? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Tom has a nonbreaking space in front of his (and used to have an empty link). I have an em dash. Interruptor Jones has both of those and uses small tags. Dr Haggis's real username is Drhaggis. All of us put the modifications directly in the preferences box, instead of using a sig template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::So you don't have to put an em dash alll the time? That's really cool. I think Ill do that. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:00, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff on the knowledge base ==
By the way, you say I have to delete my caption contest, yet you don't seem to think about the amazing amount of people doing translations on their userpages. Also, you should think about Has Matt?'s page that includes homsar quotes that other people can edit. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I can't realy think of many people who do translations. Even then, the translations themselves are direct quotes and the replies are occurring on the talk pages. The reason I had a problem with your activity is because not only were you inviting people to edit your user page, you were asking them to ''create new H*R-related content'' based on the toons, which is the very definition of fanstuff. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:38, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ah. I realize that my above comment was a little bit too harsh; I apologize for that. I try to stay nice with users, since most already have a reason to hate my guts (including you). So, yeah. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Er, okaaay.... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, DBK does, after the extremely insolent remark I made on his user page, And you have a reason because of [[User: Ciberdude444|Something I can't mention.]] Also, Firebird has an excuse because I was blocked by him for trolling, and Yeltensic has a reason (although he's not a user anymore) because I was one of the people who asked him to stop most. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::One of the coolest things in this wiki is that everybody generally treats each other with respect and with maturity. Most of the people I know here do their job (be it editing pages, commenting on behavior, or taking action nobody wants to have to take but that needs to be taken) and then move on if need be, and so we try not to harbor little things that may be divisive or in the long run inconsequential. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recap ==
Can I get a recap (no need to be brief, I have time) of the things that have happened here since the start of December? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:''See [[Talk:Main Page#Recap|Talk:Main Page → Recap]]'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me ==

Heloo there It's dot com, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Cool, man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, keep in mind, Nikolce, that the pizza trophy is superior to the Iron cup of <strike>beef</strike> brunswick stew. This means that that trophy is one of the greatest trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

wow, is there some sort of "lost of tropies or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. Check the [[Hrwiki: Barnstars|Barnstars]] page. There's a lot of trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mirrors and Such ==
Hello, It's dot com. I'm now direction your admin-y attention to [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#HRWiki Mirror|this little discussion]] in the far reaches of the knowledge base. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Tom currently handles all the mirror-type stuff. I would ask him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
::Okay... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes? ==

Hey there dotty, how are these last couple of days. can i ask you something, i've been looking at people user pages, and i've been finding these things called userboxes? what are they?

is there a list of them or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:I might be able to help here. A list is located at [[HRWiki:Userboxes]], as well as directions on how to add them to your page. Let me know if you need any help adding some, if you want to do so. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thunderbird, let me say sorry, about this message. Its because i don't like to order people around, but my user page is a bit of a mess, actually its chaos, please help its urgent. thanks a bunch. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:Nikolce, if you say please, it's perfectly fine. Don't worry about politeness, because it seems you almost unconsciously type in polite ways. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Idea and it's potential ==
Hi. Nikolce Kocovski sent me something on my talk page. It's the newest headline, I think you should check it out. I want to see if you think either his idea or mine would be of any potential. Thanks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== NSMC thing ==
What's the purpose of that page? Also, why'd you delete the talk page for it? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:Also, I'd like to congrat yoyu on the amazing amount of users you've managed to obtain. Truly amazing. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::"Amount of users"? What? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I mean the amount of sockpuppets that NSMC created. You just made a page listing all of the addresses. It looked cool. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, for an explanation of the page, see the section in [[HRWiki:A_History#NSMC|A History]]. I deleted the talk page because it was a user talk page, and therefore comments on it weren't addressed to me but to the vandal. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I find this extremely interesting. Y'know, I was here when NSMC hit. I didn't know how revert it, though, so I just didn't go on the Cheat Commandos section. Of Cuorse, that wasn't enough. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== Paradoxes ==

So which came first? The [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse/Please_leave_this_line_alone chicken], or the [[HRWiki:Introduction|egg]]? ref:[http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure ours was modeled after [[Wikipedia:Template:Please leave this line alone|this]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::I hate it when we're not original. :(. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ahhhh .... hence the similarities. I *now* remember seeing that before a long long time ago, once you showed it to me, even though it looks exactly like the other one... :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool! Where did you find [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=269724&oldid=269553 this one]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I wrote it myself. See the fourth userbox on my user page. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==18,000 views==

Hey, you've got a cool userpage. I agree, Marzipan's answering machine is underrated. {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks, man. Welcome aboard! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::With over 18,000 views, it ''has'' to be good. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::18,000 views?? When did that happen?! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure I trust those counters anyway... The one at the bottom of this talk page currently shows only about 800 views, but surely ''that'' can't be right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've been having a similar situation on my user page. For some ''extremely'' odd reason, it says I have ''28,000'' page views. Seriously, I'm not that popular. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::You were talking to Dot com, not Seriously. {{User:Granola/sig}} 21:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, Granola. That's one of the worst jokes I've heard all day. :P — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Of course, I, being a retard, do not understand that joke a bit. Also, dot com, you might as well delete that thing on the bottom I wrote, cause you asked the smoking monkey to delort it. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, you see, "Seriously" can mean both your username or "in a serious manner". Has Matt? meant that ''in reality'' he is not as popular as 28,000 page views would seem to indicate, but Granola took it to mean that he was addressing you directly. Hilarity ensued. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Or a total lack of hilarity, as it was a crappy joke. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh good, I knew you weren't that popular :P Maybe with all the code fiddling you do, you somehow reversed the number of talk page views with the number of userpage views or something. I've gotta say this has shattered my confidence in those little counter things, before I would have trusted those things with my life. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::And I jumped from 2500 to 6000 in less than 24 hours awhile ago. That can't be right, either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The number is so small because the counter was reset to zero when this page was moved back incorrectly from a vandal. It had to be deleted and recreated, and that's probably what caused the problem. And Heimstern, do you have your preferences set to hold page caches? If you do, that's probably what caused the view count to jump. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 06:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Aw, man! You're probably right, HSRusername. That really bums me out. I would reset my counter, except that I have no idea what to set it to. By the way, as far as I know, I've never messed with anything that would affect those numbers. Maybe they've gone up dramatically because an outside bot is gathering data or something (like for Google). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::At the very least, as of [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 16#6,000 views!|06:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)]], you had over 6,000 talk page views, and just under 6,000 userpage views. I think it's safe to give yourself at least a 10,000 talk page view head start, as long as you give your userpage a 10,000 view handicap. That should get you somewhat back on track. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Well, I found an archive just before all the hubbub that put the count at 10,071. I added that to the 958 currently showing to get 11,029, and used that figure to reset my counter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

==Autocolumn==

Btw, I wanted to say excellent work on the autocolunm feature. I was looking at the Strong Bad Email tables yesterday, thinking an autocolumn thing would be a nice feature, and lo and behold not two hours later it had been converted. Nice work. (I suppose for colunms such as the ones on my userpage though, it doesn't have any useful application, correct?) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I tried to use it for the ones in my page, but it just screwed things up. Although I did put it on [[The Field]] and [[Strong Badia]] and Has Matt? used it on [[Homestar Talker]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks! Yeah, when the columns are independent lists, they still have to be done the regular way. The autocolumns are for when you have one long list that just needs to be split up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Very nice script, It's dot com. No more tiring counts of items-per-column to make sure each one is equal. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait, what was the difference? I don't see anything new...at least I don't think...{{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== The Smoking Monkey's talk page ==
Why isn't what he did bad to you? Before you say no, let me explain. First of all, he embarassed me ''and'' The thing on his talk page '''on purpose''', second of all, he said apology's to dot com, which means he knew this would have a certain outcome to certain people like me, you (which for some reason you find fine), and the thing. This is a perfect example of premeditated malice. And third of all, would you like it if someone made fun of you on their talk page for everyone to see? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have asked The Smoking Monkey to revert or remove the thread. If you find it insulting, then it is a personal attack, which we don't want. I assure you this was not The Smoking Monkey's intent, but that is beside the point. Let me take this opportunity, however, to suggest that learning to laugh at one's self is one of the most difficult yet rewarding things a person can do. In addition, I think you should ''stop'' apologizing and ''start'' adding more content to this site. Whenever I click on your contribs, I notice that over the last week your user talk contribs outnumber your main namespace contribs 7 to 1. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::yes. I understand. Also, I've been adding to the wooky (a major overhaul of the site just because I feel sorry for it), so I havn't had much of a chance. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Finding vandalism ==

Hey, just wanted to flag a sysop. [[other days]] was mildly vandalized. I fixed it but figured you might want to know about it. Feel free to delete this from your talk if you want. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Simple nuisance vandalism can just be fixed and then ignored. The best way to let us know about more serious vandalism is to post it on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]. Then we'll get it taken care of. Thanks for reverting that page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== The thing ==
Now that he's unblocked, I'm thinking you can put that template for his block reason on his talk page. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Did I just miss that? ==

Did I miss something or is this just deja vu? I *just* noticed that the order of the "diff" and "hist" buttons are out of order from the other wiki's. In wikipedia, they are before the page title, here they are after the page title. How long has it been like that, and was that part of your recent tinkerings? Confused in Connecticut. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:You live in connecticut? Bodacious in Buffalo {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::I don't see what you're saying at all. Whistlin' in Washington, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You sure? On the Bonus Stage Wiki, they also go (diff)(hist), so... I dunno. Not Doing A Name Thingy Like The Rest Of You in Pennsylvania. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I think what he meant, although I don't see it, is that he thinks that it was "{page title} (diff)(hist)" here. Lazing Around in Lynnwood, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Hm. Odd. I see it the other way around. I mean, the correct way. Maybe Stux's internet is just going spastic. Not telling anyone my location, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's a certain bug in the mediawiki 1.5 software, there were many other ones. {{User: Seriously/sig}}
::::::OT: Jay? Lynn would wash? Silly in Sammamish, {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::How very Strong Bad-ish of you. :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Wait, did anyone else just realizing us having this discussion that is getting off-topic on another user's talk page that isn't even responding? Confused in Crapland, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, I'm thinking it's either a bug in the software, or a bug in Stux's compy. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I doubt that it's a bug in my compy since my watchlist is getting the code from the server as it's all server-generated. I know I have the "enhanced" recent changes turned on (I turned it off for a moment and it indeed showed it the other way, with (diff)(hist) first. But this must've been deja vu, cuz of that. Cuz I've had it "enhanced" for the longest time. So I dunno. I probably need sleep. As for my domicile: I actually don't live in Connecticut, nor have I ever even been in the state (sadly). I just picked the two words cuz they made good alliteration! (And I was surprised to be able to spell the state's name right.) I didn't think people would assume I lived in Connecticut. In fact I am Mindless in Michigan. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Mindless south of Montreal, Bamboozled west of Boston, Really Confused north of Rio, Dazed east of Dallas. {{User:Granola/sig}} 19:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==
The thing has recently vandalized a wiki. Check Benol's talk page for info. I suggest you block him, as per your rule posted on the main page. Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry I <big>LOVE</big> this wiki the trolling was my evil cousin! Plus it wasn't this wiki. I swear I'm crying right now. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::You should have thought about that '''BEFORE''' You trolled!!!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Please I'm really sorry! That was my evil cousin! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm crying harder than I ever have before! :'-( --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm sorry. Nothing we can do. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Please I '''LOVE''' this wiki! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You probably won't be ''Permanently'' blocked.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I'm to sorry to even say it in words! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Look, you guys. I'm pretty sure all this trolling went on before Dot com posted that message on the Main Page talk. Besides, he's now trying ''extremely'' hard to clean up the mess he's made, so he obviously knows what he did is wrong. Therefore, will a block ''really'' do anything to help this situation? I think not. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 17:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Do u see how hard I'm trying to get rid of the vandalizm! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ok guys, The thing has more than repented for that vandalism. Seriously, I suggest that you keep your nose out of matters that do not involve you. The thing is currently reverting the vandalism with extreme diligence, and this situation is misunderstood by both Benol and Seriously. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::It wasn't that I was not minding my own business, but I saw many changes to Benol's talk page on the recent changes and decided to see what was up about it. I only meant to help, and I'm sorry if I failed to do so. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I wasn't party to this at all, so I don't really know what happened in this particular case. But I will say this: I said once before that I thought the ops here were being too lenient on The Thing, as he's had a history of vandalism and trolling in the past, and everyone seems to be very quick to defend him. (Lots of "I'm sorry's" and "I won't do it again!'s".) I don't deny he's also made good edits here, but I have not seen discipline executed equally to him as has been to others who've done similar things, or less. That's kinda frustrating to see. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

You all need to complain to your teachers for not teaching you how to read. While you're at it, Seriously and The thing, go ahead and post a mailing address where I can send a bill to your parents for babysitting you. On the main page talk, I said that anyone caught vandalizing in our name would be dealt with. I have neither the time nor the resources to try and police other wikis. The message regarding other wikis means that if you vandalize Uncyclopedia, for example, ''in retaliation'' for something that happens here, then at that point you are speaking for ''all'' of us here, and I care very much that you don't do that. But random vandalism doesn't concern me. To The thing: I can't believe that you think vandalism is funny, especially given that you're an administrator at a wiki. To Seriously: you need to learn what is and what isn't important, and stop being such a tattletale. And stop speaking for me. In one place you say "No matter what, you must get blocked." You have neither the authority nor the experience to be making claims like that. To KieferSkunk: The thing didn't actually do anything (in this case) to harm our wiki or its good name, and therefore there are no grounds for blocking him. (And he ''has'' been blocked recently by BazookaJoe for spamming.) To anyone who needs to hear this: Stop vandalizing. Stop behaving so immaturely (and don't blame your actions on your age; I know several young good contributors). Wiki usage is not a right; it's a privilege. And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing. You've said you're sorry so much that the words have no meaning. Let your future actions be your apology. That's all for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:In reply to your comment to me: I understand, and I'm not asking for him to be blocked in this case. I was making a more general comment about The Thing's history, seeing as how I have witnessed vandalism from him in the past and saw people, even sysops, defending him and going way out of their way to reason with him, rather than treating him as a vandal. I didn't understand it at the time, and I still don't, so I left my comments on the matter at "I think you're being too lenient with him". This was mainly just a follow-up on that, more to mention that I'm not surprised another "incident" has come up than anything else. That's all. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::Well, unless an account is being used for nothing but vandalism, then [[HRWiki:Blocking_Policy#Vandalism|reasoning should always be exhausted]] before blocking is implemented. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Just who do you think you are? ''Babysitting''? Y'know, it's not like I've ever done anything mean to you. Yes, I spoke for you. Just trying to help and to see it in the eyes of an admin. Yes, I've answered your talk page questions for you with crappy answers. Again, jsut trying to help. These things don't mean you have to insult me like that. Y'know, I've really never done anything bad to you on purpose. I always had great respect for you, and I've never purposely insulted you like you just did. You need to learn how a simple misinterpretation of a comment on the main page talk should'nt be an excuse for acting like that. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::When I vandalized I thought you were suppose to vandalize there. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::To Seriously: As one who has been an admin several times in other places, one thing I can say with certainty is that many admins feel very put off and are easily annoyed by non-admins (and especially relatively new people) trying to speak for them. Dictating policy to other users on behalf of the admins is usually a no-no unless you are an admin or are trusted by the admins to do so. (Obviously, I can't speak for It's dot com, but if I were in his place dealing with this crap, that's how I'd feel.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::And if you haven't figured it out by now who I am, Seriously, then you've got deeper problems than I can fix in one afternoon. To The thing: whatever, man. To KieferSkunk: Hear, hear. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Okay. Here it goes, time for me to swallow my pride:

Look, Dot com, I just don't want to be treated like a baby. In my opinion, I think being a tattletale is the wrong was to think about it, I prefer "fighting trolls, and trying to help you with your rule". Yes, I was disrespectful to you. I just needed to prove my point and express my anger at you. Also, I know you are an admin. Maybe I ''was'' a bit overboard with you; that doesn't mean what I said was entirely wrong. I mean, I apologize, but it's not like I'll kiss your ring and beg for forgiveness. I've got to be a bit more defiant than that to ever prove my point. Just remember: I've always, ''always'' tried to help you, and I just found your comment a bit mean. Just forgive me, please, and let this whole thing disappear. Thanks a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:Seriously, have you been reading this thread and understanding it? It's dot com has stated just 8 posts up: "And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing." You are still relatively new to this wiki, and your experience has been limited to editing User and User talk pages. You said yourself you give "crappy answers" to questions that don't concern you. When I first joined, I watched conversations like this unfold and saw how responsible admins reacted. I didn't try to solve everybody's problems; I knew I didn't have the knowledge. Just keep to yourself for a while and maybe see what it's like to make some main namespace contrubutions. (That is the idea of a wiki, you know.) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 00:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Check this out: ==

Ok, so check out the current [[:Category:To_be_deleted|delete category]]. See something strange? The "Timeline" article is listed under the U's! Even though the tobedeleted tag uses the <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> tag. Strange, no? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who ==

HOW DOES HE KEEP COMING BACK! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:Hey man, I want you to know that Dr. Who vandalized your talk page. Could you block his IP for me? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::First of all, this is nothing to get excited about. He's a garden-variety vandal, nothing more, and he comes back because (a) he apparently doesn't have anything constructive to do and (b) he has access to a dynamic IP. Second, yes, I'm aware that he vandalized this page. Third, I already blocked him before you posted your message. Fourth, please list future vandals on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], not this page. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Also, he never does much damage, besides vulgar content and stuff like that. What's weird, though, is how he always manages to come when there's no sysops around. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You know what I hate? When this guy writes vulgar edit summaries. For people who patrol recent changes, especially kids, we don't have to see that. Really. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yea. I'm 10 he on my page said This user is fulla ****. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ugh. At least NSMC was was just racist. This guy swears like nobody's business. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::He can go to jail for this. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I doubt that severely... Though one can always wish... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::To this point: would it be possible to introduce a language filter? The rare times a swear is needed (an interview transcript, for example) a sysop can override. ?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Probably impossible. That would interfere with this wiki, though, because the cartoon says crap all the time, among other things. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::We could allow the program to accept crap. Still, there are a lot of other issues... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's definitely possible, but currently it's not worth the effort it would take to install it. As for "crap", we just wouldn't put that word on the bad list. Finally, I would appreciate it if comments that aren't actually directed to me be posted in a more public place: [[Talk:Main Page]], [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]], or [[HRWiki:Da Basement]], to name a few. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::OK. Although I think that everyone comes to you because you are the central hub of the wiki, pretty much. Everyone comes to you in hardships, whcih if I were you, I would be honored with. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Oh, I know, and don't think I'm not honored, but I, like most people, don't like new-message false alarms, and would rather talk about projects I'm currently working on. Also, there are a lot of questions that anyone could more easily answer if they were just put in a more public place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Flashforward ==

I'm still at the conference, it was really great. IRC doesn't work on the terminals, but suffice it to say, I was here, got autographs, (not many questions) and it was really great. I'll try and get a writeup on Wednesday evening. --TBird

:That was not Tbird. Look [here]. The editor's IP starts with a 6. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thunderbird is not at home, so the IP address would be different. It could still be him, but I would like him to log in if possible. If he can't log in at the convention, he'll figure something out or log in when he gets home later tonight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Too late. His IP's been blocked. He'll log in when he needs to, but I have one question: If he was TBird, why did he sign TBird instead of his IP (accidentally typed <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> without knowing he wasn't logged in) or with his sig (or siggie, I guess)? It doesn't seem right. I mean, if he can edit annonymously, he can edit logged on, and I think the first thing he'll ask if he can't log in is why he can't. Plus, he would know that an IP editing as a user would most likely be reverted. We could unblock the IP and see if TBird can log on now, I guess. Wouldn't hurt, but I still think it wasn't him. I dunno. Oh, also, if it was him, sorry, just don't want anybody impersonating you. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::We didn't block the IP. There are several reasons why he might not have been able to log in (if the computer he was using didn't accept cookies, for example). I think the edits by the IP match TBird's style, but I'm being cautious for now. I'm patient; if I have to I can wait for him to get home to confirm. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ye of little faith :-P You didn't recognize my unique writing style? I just didn't really feel like logging in for one or two edits. I probably should have, but meh. In any case, all I said was true, and more. I left a message on the IRC with Phlip, but it should still be there if you scroll up, to see a brief summary of the event. I'll get a writeup started tomorrow night. For now, I've gotta be up in five and a half hours for work, so I'm going to bed. '''EDIT:''' Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention on IRC. Let's just say I'll be kicking myself for months for not bringing my DS to Flashforward... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 09:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought it was you (see above where I say it sounds like your style), but the info was too good, so I thought it was best to wait for confirmation. I guess you'll log in from now on. :-P Actually, the only reason I had any question was because the IP you were using came up as being based in ''Chicago'', which was pretty weird. I admit it would have been quite unlikely for someone to be imitating you, but we've been burned before. Anyways, great jaerb!!! Many combolations on your successful mission!! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Parse error! ==

In HomsarQuote.php. You sure are good at bringing the Wiki to its knees ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I always seem to forget semicolons at the end of lines. And it never fails that someone notices my mistakes, even when they're there for less than a minute. :P — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ah, missing semicolons, the bane of a programmer's existence. (Unless you're coding in Lisp. Then it's missing parens.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I used to do C++ so remember the semi-colon plight, now I do mostly webdesign and so am plagued to make sure I have the same number of <nowiki><div>'s and </div>'s</nowiki>. If I don't comment every single one I'm lost. My lastest creation is [http://www.odua.org this] It's mostly done although I can't seem to get things to line-up the way I want and no matter what changes that I make, it will only look right on one browser at a time! Grrrrr. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== You are s-smart ==

Brilliant random Homsar quote thingy!

You're pretty good at this, obviously. Take a look at [[Talk:Sound Effects#Ogg? why not mp3?|this discussion]] and my idea at the end - would this be something possible to improve usability? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I guess you're gonna have to s-spell out what your idea is, because I'm not quite s-seeing it. S-sorry if that cancels out the s-smart. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::The ogg files. They confuse people, many players in use don't use them right out of then box. But Wikipedia has an interesting solution which we might be able to emulate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I should have been more s-specific. What I meant was, when I went to the page about the s-symphony, I wasn't s-sure what their s-solution was. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::In the 1st paragraph, there's the Listen link (after the musical example) - there's a (listen (help·info)) thingy. The "Help" goes to instructions on how to get your player to play oggs. I mean, I was stymied by them until I was researchiong (on that page, actually) and stumbled upon that.

::::Of course, I don't know enough about Wiki to know a) if this can be done on our system, 2) how to do it even if it can be done, and III) if this sort of a thing would require "discussion" "someplace". SO that's why I ask you, Mr. S-smart. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Just copy the source code of [[Wikipedia:Template:Audio]] to [[Template:Audio]] (or something like that), adjust the help link to the media help page on this Wiki, and it should work fine (apart from maybe the speaker icon). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's that easy, eh? :\ Well, it'd take me a few days to figure all that out! (I spent a good part of today trying, haven't gotten far. Will keep trying.) But if someone who already has all that figured out wants to take up the cause, we could have better usability sooner. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Talk page rate ==
These days, I've been trying to make more main namespace contribs and less user talk page contribs. The question is, has my diet (sorta) done any good for me? Check my contribs. On a rate of 1 to 10, how much would you say I've improved? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 04:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:Er, maybe we should give it a little more time before making a 1 to 10 rating. I say that because in the last three days, you have made more user edits than and ''twice'' as many user talk edits as all your main, main talk, HRWiki, and HRWiki talk edits ''combined'' (not counting sandbox). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gulp. Back to work on the random refreshings. :( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I just did like fifteen. Sweet. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you've been doin' a LOT of edits, Seriously. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Um, sorry about those things on tyhe videlectrix games. You're gonna be doing that for a long time. :( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, you're fine. I've always been bugged by the word "exist" on those pages. How can we say that the games don't exist? I can see a screenshot right next to them! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, that's true. At least I added some good edits to my reh—zoom. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

==WikiTroll==

OK then, I'll stop, but why don't you want me editing that page? {{User:Granola/sig}} 02:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:Because it's fine the way it is, and you really don't need to be editing meta-information about yourself. Besides, as you said on the talk page, that record isn't even that important anyway. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Fair enough. I just wanted it to be accurate, even though it isn't necessary in the first place. {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

==Granola==

Why did you delete my old userpage? {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:That is not your user page. If you continue to claim that name, I will treat you as though it was still your username (i.e. I will go back to blocking you). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::OK...I just thought it would be useful to redirect it, so that people who went looking for it would come to the right place...<strike>can at least have the talkpage redirect? People have been known to still post on the old one, and I think it's useful to redirect that one, so that posts won't lie around unanswered for a long time.</strike> {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Never mind about the talkpage, I logged in as Yeltensic, went into my preferences, and enabled the notification e-mail in case the old talkpage is edited, so it's covered now. {{User:Granola/sig}} 08:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::You've said that I can't have "Yeltensic" as my sig, as I did for a while, or have "I'm Yelt" in parentheses; would it be OK if I included in my sig a link to my Wikipedia userpage, without the word "Yeltensic" visibly included, in this way: [[Wikipedia:User:Yeltensic42|With crap]], '''[[User:Granola|Granola]]''' '''([[User talk:Granola|T]]''' '''•''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Granola| C]])'''? I won't change it until you approve that suggestion (if you do). {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I see that you have a mention of it on your user page as well as a userbox linking to Wikipedia. Those are both fine with me. (By the way, just thought I'd point out that (H*R/wiki-related) userboxes are allowed here.) But I don't think it's appropriate for your sig at this time. You need to stop focusing on your old name and work on making a new, better name for yourself here. Crapfully crappy, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::That sounds reas-ON-able. I'm pretty attached to the name Yeltensic, since I've been using it for quite some time before HRWiki, but it ''is'' my fault that the name is tainted here. Oh well. {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Cheddarlebbon ==
I hate to butt in with that conversation, especially because I've been under fire for that recently, but I am sure that IP address is not him. Cheddarlebbon does not type in caps, for example. He also has several spelling errors in his sentences. I'm just putting this up, because I want to make sure he does not get the password. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for your concern. Don't worry though: Per our policy, I will not be resetting the account without some kind of proof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
::<s>grood</s>Good. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== My Userbox ==

Hey! Jerk! Why don't you stay offa my userpage and let me make my own userbox there! I didn't put it on the userbox list! It was isolated to my page! I really don't know what your deal is, but you need to get over it if it upset you that much. Maybe I should edit your page without asking you, huh? I think I can safely say that I was following the guidelines for my personal image. Now If you'll excuse me, I'm going to put it back up. No thank you very much, {{User:Republic of Stan/sig}}
:''This discussion was originally continued at <nowiki>[[</nowiki>User talk:Republic of Stan → Userboxes]]. I had originally suspected him of being a sockpuppet of Drwho?, and that turned out to be correct.''

== Most of it? ==

Query: Why do you only own "most of" the figurine set 1? Don't use that old excuse of "oh, my dog ate Marzipan!" :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:My friend gave me them for Christmas... except he apparently gave some of them to his brothers first. Hmm... Well, he did at least assure me that I got the best ones of the bunch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Oookay. Which ones didn't you get? (Looks up at all fourteen Homestar Runner figures - from both sets - currently sitting above his computer.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::: Oh, I knew you would ask that, but I'm really comfy here on the couch right now. :) I know for sure I have Homestar and Strong Bad, and Pom Pom I think. I don't have The Cheat or the KOT. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::: KoT was the second set anyway. Sucks you wouldn't get The Cheat, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Aren't you supposed to get those free when you buy stuff? Don't you have like every single DVD and CD ever. Like ever. Ok so at least all the H*R related ones...--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, I got these ''years'' ago, back when you didn't get them free with everything. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Blocking durations ==

As a senior sysop and an admin here, if we are being trolled by someone, for how long he or she should be blocked. I know that known trolls like NSMC, Dr. Who and others are blocked forever, but what about small calibar trolls? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's pretty much a judgment call in almost all cases. For IP addresses, 1 to 3 days, depending on the severity of the vandalism. For ''really'' bad stuff, a week or so. If a vandal is obviously changing IPs within a narrow range, blocking the range X.X.X.0/24 (or 23) usually works. Users who make useful contributions should be reasoned with first if possible, not blocked. Accounts created for no purpose other than to vandalize should be blocked infinitely. Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you very much. It sure will help! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== New sysops ==

Was there a sysop nomination? If so, I'm surprised that Lapper wasn't one. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:''Anyone'' who had made any edit since around the beginning of February was considered. Of the ones we took, they were each chosen not only because they are deserving but also to fill certain niches. As we say, we will add new sysops as our circumstances warrant, and this time circumstances warranted the number and specific users that we took. I can name a half dozen other users who will someday make excellent sysops, and anyone who was not chosen this time should ''not'' read into it negatively in any way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::When I posted the above, I couldn't say what I can say now: We were still considering some people, and some people simply don't check their email often enough! (Or they don't make their primary email available to the wiki, which is pretty much the same thing.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, It's dot com, I see you having a lot of new sysops. Does that mean there won't be any new sysops for a while? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, I believe the seven new sysops that we have just inducted are it for a while. We've always got our eyes open, though. Remember also that ''all'' users can be important users. I did some of my best stuff (including STUFF) before I was promoted. (It's kinda funny too... what a lot of people don't realize is that sysop = more headaches.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::So like how long? Because I signed on on Feb. 24th. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::It would be impossible to guess at this time, as there are just [[HRWiki:FAQ#How_do_I_become_an_admin_or_sysop.3F|too many factors]] that go into it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I missed something - is there a page that lists the new sysops? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:[[Special:Listusers/sysop]] or [[HRWiki:A History#Later additions]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gotcha, thanks. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== User groups ==
I have a question: I know what a sysop does, and I know what a beaurucrat does, but what do you get to do as a developer that nobody else can? I'm just wondering what it means it have the promotion. Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
:For those of you following along at home, I was technically made a bureaucrat and a developer on the same day. The only reason I wasn't added to the developer group in the wiki software is because there's a subtle difference between being a developer and being in the developer group. At the time I was made a developer, the wiki developer group was inactive. Since then, we reenabled it, and when we did, I was put in the group, even though for practical purposes I was already in it. Make sense? Okay, now that we have that out of the way: Bureaucrats can assign and unassign users to groups (usually to make sysops), and can also rename users. People in the developer group can lock and unlock the database. That originally was the only function available, but since then I have extended it somewhat using my developer abilities. And here's the distinction: a developer has direct access to the server and database. They can see server logs, view raw database data, and modify system software (to improve upon it). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
::And is there anything special about Joey Day's "proprietor" group? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::No, it was created for purely narcissistic purposes (Joey's words, not mine). -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:::: This is true. There is nothing special about the [[Special:Listusers/proprietor|proprietor]] user group. I'm not usually one to be so narcissistic, but I thought it made some sense, and I did it mostly because I could. We've never been able to create custom user groups before MediaWiki 1.5, or I might've created a proprietor group a long time ago. Actually, in a way this is the opposite of narcissistic, as it allows for the possibility of others having proprietorship at some time in the future, and adds a layer of abstraction between myself and the title of proprietor. In the past, we've always linked directly to my user page in places where we mention the proprietor, but we should change all those places to link to the proprietor list. I'll get right on that. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who Never Strikes Again ==

Ok. I've got to admit, somewhat grudgingly, that you caught me earlier. I AM in fact Dr. Who. But I really wasn't planning on using this account for vandalism. Yesterday after I attacked the fanstuff wiki I saw that I had hurt someone's feelings and I felt terrible when it put a personal face on what I'd done. I'm ready and willing to talk to you about why and how I did all of that trolling if you just give me this chance. Of course, I would understand if you banned me right away, but I'm asking you to give it a try. Sincerely, [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]
:I can't speak for all the other sysops, but I won't ban you if you're willing to talk civilly. The whole reason I posted on your talk page was to find out about you and talk to you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ok then, here goes. I believe the first trolling I ever did was under the name "you smell", where I added that phrase several times to the [[Characters]] page. I decided that it was funny that someone coming to learn would see that (yes, I know, very immature and stupid of me). That was the full extent that I knew of what I was doing. I later learned of the concept of wiki vandalism from Uncyclopedia. I have been using this wiki for years without knowing exactly how maintenance worked; when I did I became jealous of the sysops. I wished to make a name for myself here without doing years of work (rather like WoW, I was trying to gain infamy). My attacks became somewhat meaner as I went on, and I attacked users when I got tired of simply tampering with content. I started thinking of ways to justify it to myself, such as that injustice was being done to me over userboxes, or that my name alone had gotten me banned. I guess I saw it as a way to "break loose" because I am normally NOT a rude or confrontational person. I just stopped for two reasons: I was ashamed of myself, and I was inspired by the way [[User:Granola|Yeltensic]] had turned himself around. In any case, I am deeply sorry. The least I can do is tell you how I did the vandalism so that you can better protect against anything that might happen in the future.
::I used two dynamic IP's: Safari and AOL. Aol has a set of three or four dynamic IP's that change within a narrow range from page to page. Safari's IP changes once every day, but it usually retains the first two segments (75.123.12.32, 75.123.32.34.... and so on). I opened numerous windows at once and typed in my edits and (sigh) summeries. This way the vandalism was at a high speed. I hope at least me telling you this helps (or rather, that you won't need it). [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]
:::I am willing to give you a chance. Several of your latest incarnations have actually showed some promise, and I hope you can build on that. Once again, I can't speak for all users and sysops, but in general we're a pretty forgiving bunch. I caution you that you will have to prove yourself (assuming others also give you a chance), and our collective patience with you might not be what it would be for a normal new user.
:::Thanks for the technical info (although I did already know that, by the way; that's how I was able to post on your talk page before you'd even made any real edits). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Greetings Dotty, how are you. I havn't spoken with you in a while. how have you been these couple of weeks? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
:Uhh Dotty, where are you, are you busy or something? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::Hello, Nikolce. I'm fine, and I hope you're well. Yeah, life can be kind of hectic sometimes. But we gotta keep on tranglin'! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== SPONGE 001 ==

Who is your favorite H*R character?[[User:SPONGE 001|SPONGE 001]] 19:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== Documentary ==
Thanks for that page move. As I saw the whole thing unfold on Recent changes, I thought "what the heck is he doing"? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:No problem. Hey, do me a favor: Instead of pressing [edit] over on the right to start a new topic, please press the [ + ] (plus) button at the top of the page (in between the main edit button and the history button). (Or, at the very least, please clear the old subheading from the edit summary.) Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I always wondered what that button did. Cool, I'll try hard to remember to. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== New special page ==

I've been seeing a lot of pages with the name Test being deleted, along with images. May I ask what going on? {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

:We're testing something. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

::What I meant was what are you testing. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 11:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

:::It's a special page that has to do with [[Special:Personalimages|image management]]. <s>It's not ready yet,</s> but when it is, it will be linked from an HRWiki page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
::::That's really, really cool. I've been waiting for something like that... A way to see who owns what image(s) quickly. This should certainly be helpful in managing 'em, eh? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Indeed. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

==H*bad==

I would like to request to have my user name changed from H*bad to something else, at the fanstuff wiki, how do I do that?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

:If the name of our [[HRWiki:Changing username|changing username]] page is any indication, I estimate it would be at [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Changing username|HRFWiki:Changing username]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

== IP Checking ==

There's been a fair amount of debate about accounts that seem to be all created by H*bad. Since we lack any ability to check for IP addresses, would you be able to see if the following accounts share the same IP?: [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad|H*bad]], [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad1|H*bad1]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar Runner|Darth Homestar Runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar runner|Darth Homestar runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Guyforerunner|Guyforerunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Godzillarunner|Godzillarunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Homestarrunner101|Homestarrunner101]], [[HRFWiki:User:Running along|Running along]]. Any info you could get would be much combobulated. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:They're the same (except I'm not sure about Guyforerunner). See also [[User_talk:Tom#Emergency|this discussion]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::What in the world. My friend created H*bad1 at my house. Thats why he has the same IP address as mine, I believe. He called me up and told me that you guys are like people who want to put salt in an open wound. Why you do this to him? I will keep on fighting this little thing about H*bad1. I explained all of this cwap at [[HRFWiki:My dark side|My dark side]]--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 05:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Um... yeah. Okay. First of all, don't let people make accounts using your computer, and if you do, have them choose a different name from you. (That still doesn't explain all the other names, by the way.) But I don't really want to get into it here, as it has been discussed on other pages, like you point out. Super Sam simply asked me whether the IPs matched and I answered him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Extensions ==

Cool, two headings in a row. Alrighty, I have two things to talk about. One - would you be able to post your source code for the extensions you wrote somewhere, such as [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mediawiki_Extensions here]? Two - do you know how to add a tab from within an extension? I figured out how to do it by editing SkinTemplate.php, but is there any way to have the same effect through an extension? (I'm trying to add a purge tab next to watch/unwatch). - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:I do plan to publish the extensions I have written. They need a bit of polishing, standardizing, and commenting before I would post them in a public place, however. As for the tab thing, I'm guessing you want more of an add-on file rather than a patch in the original file? I'm not currently familiar enough with how the tabs are generated to be able to give you a good answer to that one, but I would be surprised if it could be done with a standalone extension. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::Alrighty, thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:42, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Here's a little way to add a purge button using [[User:Super Sam/monobook.js|your monobook.js]] that I came up with and Dot com fixed to actually work properly:
<pre>//Add purge cache button
function addPurgeButton()
{
var href = document.location.href;
{
var historyHref = document.getElementById( "ca-history" ).firstChild.href;
var div = document.getElementById( "p-cactions" );
var ul = div.getElementsByTagName( "ul" )[0];
var newLi = document.createElement( "li" );
var newA = document.createElement( "a" );
newA.setAttribute( "href" , historyHref.replace( "=history" , "=purge" ) );
var text = document.createTextNode( "Purge" );
newA.appendChild( text );
newLi.appendChild( newA );
ul.appendChild( newLi );
}
}
if ( window.addEventListener ) window.addEventListener( "load" , addPurgeButton , false );
else if ( window.attachEvent ) window.attachEvent( "onload", addPurgeButton );</pre>
:::Let us know how that works. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== Dr.... Who? ==

Who was Dr. Who? why did he/she get kicked off so many times? I am asking this because as I travel around this Wiki I saw alot about Dr. Who. Just curious, {{User:Grit7/sig}}
:See [[#Dr. Who Never Strikes Again]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

== Captcha on move page ==

I'd like to ask you a question, and if it's been asked before, I'm very sorry. I'd just like to ask what the purpose of applying a CAPTCHA to the Move Page over on the Fanstuff Wiki is. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's to prevent a bot from being able to move pages as vandalism, and to discourage human vandals from doing the same. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::If that's the case, why isn't it the same here? If I recall correctly (which is unlikely), this knowledge base has had more page-move vandalism than the Fanstuff. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Er... It ''is'' the same here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. I must be out of date then. Never mind. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's not. Well, at least, it's not for me with my almighty sysoply privilages. Is it like that for ordinary users? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, it is. I had to use it until a couple weeks ago when I was sysopped. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh. Huh. I didn't even realize. That puts WoW in a whole new light of non-life. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== Grizzly Chomps ==

Hi It's dot com,

I had a question, and I'm not sure where else to put it. Can you explain why you didn't you think my "Grizzly chomps" fun fact in the Candy Product was a good one? I may be biased, but I think it applies pretty well. TBC have been known to reference old and obscure pop-culture items in the past, and I can't think of any other "pre-bitten" candy product sold in stores. I'd like to think they had this product in mind when they made the toon. You can even Google for it and read up on it.

Anyhow, I just wanted to know what my options were for debating this fact. Is this is something I could put in STUFF for debate? And if so, how?

The submission was:
*The "built-in bite" shape of SBLOUNSKCHED! may refer to Grizzly Chomps, a [[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]]-brand treat introduced in 1992. The package included two chocolate cupcakes with a bite-mark shape cut out of them, and the package bore a cartoon bear saying, "I start 'em, you finish 'em."

:I removed it because the Grizzly Chomps are so old and obscure that any similarity to SBLOUNSKCHED is likely just a coincidence. None of the secondary details match, especially the reason for the bite. In the case of Grizzly Chomps, the bear helps you eat it for some reason, but Strong Bad calls the bite in his candy a security measure to deter others from eating it. I think that TBC independently thought it was funny to have a bite missing from the candy, and to suggest otherwise is too much speculation for my taste.
:    That said, I am more than willing to help you set up a STUFF item. The relevant instructions are at [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newfact]]. You need to start at "2. The STUFF subpage". Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::I went ahead and STUFF'd it for you. You can have the next one. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks! I appreciate that. [[User:Compdude|Compdude]]

== Another recent block ==

Looking at the [[Special:Ipblocklist|Block list]], I saw that you banned User:Fire Man. Are you sure you've got the right guy? Looking at [[Special:Contributions/Fire Man|his contribs]] he only made one edit and it wasn't anything bad. He seems like a perfectly fine user. I think he's innocent so you should unblock him. Any reason why you blocked him in the first place? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:You are correct about the number and type of contribs for that account. I am unblocking it on a provisional basis. I remind whoever needs to hear it that vandalism and flagrant abuse of the wiki's policies will not be tolerated. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== The Clamburger ==

Could you please mark [[HRFWiki:User:Clamburger|Clamburger]] as a bot on the fanstuff? It's really cluttering Recent Changes. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 13:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Why are you asking ''me'' when [[User:Tom|Tom]] has [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 4#The Clamburger Bot|already given you an answer]] on this one? If you want to appeal, you'll have to take it up with him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Extensions ==

Can you please put the autocolumn and random Homsar quote extensions onto the Fanstuff? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== Declaring War ==

Isn't there a rule against declaring war? Isn't that anti-Wiki? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think anyone's ever enumerated a list here that specifically included "do not declare war," but I can say for sure that it's a very [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=It%27s+dot+com&page=User%3AHeadbad+and+strongbody bad idea]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&curid=18299&diff=295049&oldid=295009&rcid=242036 Indeed]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::: *sigh* Yeah, that. If he keeps it confined to what he's already said, then I'm probably not going to worry about it too much (although I did have to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&diff=295074&oldid=295057 remove some trolling] ''(for those just passing by, note the difference between trolling and vandalism)''), but if he actually moves the article against consensus or tries to escalate his "war" in any other way, there will be trains dropped. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm just glad I'm on your side. Trains are dangerous! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::See, that's the thing. I hate that sides even have to be taken. I had hoped when I made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&diff=293660&oldid=293654 this edit] that we could reach a suitable compromise (which seems to be fine with everyone except him). *sigh* again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Politics are inevitable. Take it from an old man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Heh. If you're older than me, I'll be surprised. I tried to find it in your user space but came up empty. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm... I've just been informed that you ''are'' in fact older than me. Huh. Now I'm just the ''third''-oldest user (that I know of). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::So who's the oldest (or 2nd oldest, if it's me)? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::[[User:Bill|Bill]] is in his early forties. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::That makes me #2, and you #3 AFAWK. Interesting. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::I left a note on his talk page, and I think it knocked some sense into him. He's actually a good guy—assuming that he doesn't offend people so much anymore. Anyway, back to my wikivacation. Preeow. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

==[[HRFWiki:User:Stinkobad1|Stinkopuppet]]==
Super Sam was going to ask you this, but he says he did not have enough time. There is a user by the name of Stinkobad1 on the Fansguff Wiki. He requests an IP address check to make sure there is not another feud, and another reason to hate H*Bad. ;) Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
:Um, please? I know you're on, and it's urgent...:( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
::I think I'd like Super Sam to ask his own questions. If he doesn't have the time, then it must not be that urgent. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Hooray! It's me! Anyway, could you please crosscheck the IP addresses of Stinkobad1, H*bad, and while you're at it, The thing? Many thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 03:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::None of those users coincide. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== Flagrant System Error ==
Your userpage is [[car|pimp-ed out]]! How'd you get it like that? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 03:22, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:Oops! You bwoke it! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::Now that it's all over, you can tell me how you did it! [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Wheeeeeeee!]] - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Er, well, I put special clauses in the PHP code itself (that actually builds each page) that suppressed the header and footer and changed the background to blue and the text to white for any page called "[[User:It's dot com]]". Then I just changed the text to the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com&oldid=299269 error message]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== My editing a-broke ==
Hey. This is Seriously. For somereason, my account can't edit. An internal error keeps happening. I'm seeing if I can use this to edit...The thing is, though, is that everyone else is still editing. It's getting strange. {{unsigned|Seriously}}
:What is the error? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::I'll look into it and try to fix the problem. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== 'Tavi monobook ==

Look, 'Tavi is somehow halting the appear of my monobook.css. Is there anyway to make it so that there are styled links to homestarrunner.com, and other sites? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:Try editing [[Special:Mypage/tavistyle.css|the right page]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 04:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::I wouldn't even bother doing that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot net]] 04:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay. I'll do it, and you won't. ;-> (Ima try!) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, it's working, but, you may have another reason for telling me not to bother doing that. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Who, me? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot net]] 04:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== what happen to your userpage ==

Hey dotty, last time i checked your userpage, there was the blue fragment erroe page, what happen? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, 'twas an April Fool's joke. See [[#Flagrant System Error|Flagrant System Error]] above. (By the way, I'm really not very keen on "dotty", just so you know. See the top of my (working) user page.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
OOO i'm sorry, i'll just call youi dot com then, if you like?
:"It's dot com". Or "Dot com". Either one, really. They both fit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

I just thought I'd thank you for unblocking me. Sorry about that joke, I guess I'm just ''way'' different than everyone else here. What I did was still kind of disruptive, though, sorry. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

==IP check==
Can you please do me a favor? I need you to check if Crusaders IP is 69.160.0.227. Please answer as soon as you can.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:Access to that information is restricted, and unfortunately it's above your paygrade. Sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
::I need to know, because I believe that he trolled the Funny Stuff in which he is on. Come to the [http://www.editthis.info/funny_wiki Funny Wiki] and tell me there please?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Theme song ==

There's some sort of unwritten rule that I live my life by: Every awesome person, by default, needs a theme song. Yes, you heard me right, a theme song. Why don't you try a song already titled after you: [http://www.msu.edu/~larowebr/Brent%20LaRowe%20-%20Dot%20Com.mp3 Dot Com]. (Just to note, we still need one for Abdi. ;)) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==My bro==
Is it ok if my brother creates a user on here. This is so you guys don't think that I am creating sockpuppets. He is also wanting the User:lil H*bad.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:He should ''not'' have that name. Have him pick something original. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::He said "The cheatman". Would that be fine? Just you know FYI.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

Hey there Dot com, I just have a question about my [[User:DBK/userbox|userboxes]]. When I try to make it align to the left side, it only goes to the right. Then, when I put it in my about me section, it goes above my text so it looks weird. Do you know what to do? {{User:DBK/sig}} 04:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:I tweaked it a bit, removing divs in certain spots and putting in some in other places. It was mostly trial and error, though. Maybe that will get you started. (I can't really say that all the scroll boxes make your page especially easy to read, but that's just my opinion.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I realized that, I was pretty much experimenting with that stuff before. I got rid of some and just kept scroll buttons on the lists in my page, like my favorite music and cool users. Any way I was just curious why it wasn't aligning to the right, and now I'll experiment more. Thanks! {{User:DBK/sig}} 04:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:::No probalo! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== TaviStyle ==

Hello. Is there any way to put the TaviStyle skin as a choosable skin on the Fanstuff Wiki? Thank you. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 14:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hello? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 22:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not ignoring you. TaviStyle will be included when we upgrade to 1.6 soon. Until then, we've frozen changes to the software so that we have a correct frame of reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, okay. Thank you. (I just wanted to know when it will be uploaded.) --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Any chance we could get a version we could use on Wikipedia? Or one that I could at least install on the test Wiki I've got on my PC? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Email ==
Hey Dot comster. Can you check this email I sent you real quick? Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:53, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:I saw that. Why don't you ask a fanstuffer to send that for you. Better yet, use the fanstuff's email features to send it to him. By the way, what happened to pressing the [+] button at the top for new topics? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry, forgot about that. I'll try to be better (though it doesn't really matter anymore, I'm just here for the email). I tried emailing it to him, but he doesn't have an email address in his preferences. I'll copy the sent email and send it to someone. Sorry for all the trouble. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:00, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait, I can't. Since I did it from the wiki and not from Gmail, I can't cut and paste from any source. Looks like you're stuck with the burden. Once again, sorry for all the trouble. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== <nowiki>[[Wikipedia: </nowiki> Extension]] ==

I'm not sure whether you made the extension that lets you link directly to Wikipedia articles using the <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Article]]</nowiki> syntax, but if you did, can you share it? I'd like to use it on my own wiki. If you didn't, do you happen to know who did or where it's available? Thanks. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:That's a standard feature of every MediaWiki install. See [[Meta:Help:Interwiki linking]] for more information. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Sockpuppet vandels ==

They might just have the same IP. Maybe not the same peson. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:There are only a few ways that could be true, The Thing, and that's been taken into account, I'm sure. With only a few exceptions, if it's the same IP it's the same user. That's just how they work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== IP ==

Do you use a special page to find the IPs? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, I got special pages all right, The thing. I'm like, Discount Special Pages Warehouse over here. Some of my special pages are of such significance that they can't be shown in anything but WIDESCREEEEEEEEEEEEN. Left side: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAH! Right side... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::What do you use? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:::I've got ones on this wiki. The fanstuff wiki. Even wikis we've just made up! How can I make these pages any cooler? Just ask for me, the guy that works here at the special page place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== Question ==

If I wanted to program a WikiBot, would it be HAVE to be in PHP, Python, or MySQL? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I'm pretty sure the answer there is yes in most cases, it's moot if you want to use one here. Only developers can run Wikibots. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::While that's true, Kookykman, he might asking in general. Sorry, Bluebry. I'm not the one to ask about bots. You might try Joey, Tom, Phlip, or even others. I'm much more content to hack the software from the inside rather than use a bot from the outside. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Unless you have über-1337 haxx0r access like our friend It's dot com here, the only way you're going to be doing anything to the wiki is with normal page loads, ie exactly as if you were editing it by hand, just automated. So any language that you can use to access the net you could theoretically use to write a bot. However since many languages have packages to simplify HTTP, these languages would be easier to use, and some languages (like Python) even have pre-built wikibot frameworks for you to work off. But this doesn't say you can't go and write your wikibot in pretty much any language – it's simply a matter of how hard it is to write. Python is a simple-to-learn language anyways. I doubt you would ever write a bot that used PHP, and rarely would you write one that used MySQL. And of course if you prefer to work with <code>socket</code> and <code>connect</code> in C, there's nothing stopping you from doing that either... it would just be extremely tedious to write. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Now, I'm still new to programing, but I heard C. Would C be anything like C++? And I don't want to hear anything about developer status either. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== Dangeresque change ==

(First off I'm new here so I don't know if I'm doing this right. Just so you know)

I'm the guy that changed the Dangeresque character page to note that dangeresque's glasses somehow stay on his head despite his total lack of ears. You changed it back, saying "(that's true, but it's not really very notable)"

Not notable? This is homestarwiki! You've got an entire page on the battle of strongbadia, despite the fact that it only applies to one email. And allow me to quote some other character pages...

Homestar: "Though he lacks a visible pair of arms, he is still able to function as though he has them, being able to carry and throw things and even type proficiently. It's generally accepted that either he does have arms, but for reasons that are never explained, they are invisible, or that he has limited telekinetic powers. "

Bubs: "His facial configuration is puzzling; in Pumpkin Carve-nival, he appears to have a safety pin stuck through his face above an internal ear."

Marsipan: "Like Homestar, Marzipan has no visible arms, though she is able to interact with the world as though she did, being able to pick up and move objects, and even play a guitar. It is generally accepted that either her arms are invisible, or that she has limited telekinetic powers."

Strong Bad:"He has boxing gloves for hands (that always have square window reflections on them, no matter where he is), and a lucha libre mask for a head [...] Strong Bad may also have a Homestar-like telekinesis"

Um...so yeah. I'm not mad or anything. I just wanted to point out that dangeresque's floating glasses can probably be considered significant if all this other stuff is on the site. (Hey, you could even tie it in with Strong Bad's rumored telekinesis, right?)

In conclusion, sorry this comment was so long. I guess I'll check back on this page later to see if you offer a counter-argument. Thanks for reading!

:First of all, let me say thank you for taking the time to write such a lengthy comment. Why not take a second and [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]]? I agree with you that Dangeresque's glasses do not seem to have anything supporting them (although I suppose one could argue that they are held to his face by tension or even glue). My main problem with noting it on the Dangeresque page is that it really breaks up the flow of that sentence (which is based largely on the [[Dangeresque (theme)|Dangeresque theme]]). In addition, the information isn't really that central to the character; it's more like [[TBC]] just worked in the glasses as best they could given the features of Strong Bad's head. I'm not suggesting that we not note the information ''anywhere''. Perhaps you could put it in the list of [[Lack of Visible Arms#References to Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts|references to other apparently invisible body parts]]. Again, thanks for your note, and welcome to the wiki! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== Broken link ==

Just letting you know, the link near the bottom of your page that is supposed to lead to the discussion concerning the email blockquote styles is broken. That discussion was archived, so it should link to [[Talk:Strong Bad Email/Archive#New email format...]] instead. See ya! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

== I need some help ==

Hey there its dot com, how are you, how;s easter in america(if you celebrate it?)?

I need to ask you something, do you happen to know any Homestar runner wikipedias that are star wars fans?

by the way, happy easter

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

:A [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns2=1&ns3=1&search=star+wars&searchx=Search quick search] in the user and user talk namespaces turns up a number of users who may be fans of Star Wars. Hope this helps. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 02:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== Just a little hello ==

Hey there, It's dot com.
Homsarroks here. I just wanted to drop by and say hey and that you're cool.

{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 13:32, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Just out of curiosity, why did you revert my edits on the HR Wiki article on wikipedia? I tried to include the most important users on the wiki there (e.g. you, Tom, BazookaJoe, Some H*R Themed Username, etc.) and put accurate descriptions on what you did there. I'm not mad or anything, just a bit confused. Get back to me when you can. 

P.P.S. I left this message on your account on Wikipedia first, but I decided to put it on both your accounts so that you might get it sooner.

See yas!

:Actually, you didn't include BazookaJoe. I put him in shortly before removing the list. The reason I took it out is that it's so subjective. What makes a user notable? That list could have easily been four times as long. I decided that it would be better not to have it at all. As something of a compromise, I inserted a link that pointed to the list of sysops (even though I know that not all of the sysops are active). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I can understand that. THanks for the reply.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 22:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== We need the "Recent Changes" notice to be at the top of every page. ==

Yeah. Not everybody checks that. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:Why do you need a sitenotice? People who don't check the recent changes just won't find out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::So it's not really that big of a deal? --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Personally, I'd recommend putting the notice, or something like it, on the Main Page. This is big news, and there are a lot of fans who may not find out because they don't have accounts, don't check their user pages, Watchlist or Recent Changes, etc. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::People who visit the wiki on such an informal basis as you describe are not likely to have the same feelings towards the situation as regular and power users like us. These types of users are the ones the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:recentchangesnotice&oldid=310518 current message] is directed towards. We've added it to the [[H*R.com updates 2006|historical record of events]], but we will not add it to the [[Template:whatsnew|current updates]] if [[The Brothers Chaps]] don't mention it on H*R.com. The general community can find out through the [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]] article, as well as various other mentions throughout several articles. Death is a touchy subject, especially when it effects our heroes. The Admins are treating this with the utmost discretion, please respect our decisions and the feelings of the Chapman family. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

== hAcKEr ==

Why did you write hAcKEr in binary in your User Box? Oh well... You don't have to answer. By the way, people say your cool. I guess I agree. [[User:Steve|Steve]] 22:01, 22 April 2006
:I wrote hAcKEr, eh Steve? Heh, that's been there for months, and to the best of my knowledge you're the first one to decode it. (If you're not the first to decode it, then you're certainly the first to say anything.) I write extensions and make changes to the [[MW:How does MediaWiki work?|MediaWiki]] software at the [[Wikipedia:Source code|source-code]] level, which is called [[Wikipedia:Hacker|hacking]]. I am a MediaWiki [[Meta:How to become a MediaWiki hacker|hacker]] for this wiki. Thanks for noticing and posting! Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

== Special Pages ==

Can only Sysops edit Special Pages? --{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 00:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

:Generally, pages listed as [[Special:Specialpages|Special pages]] are ones that are protected or generated by the wiki. As such, they are not editable by the common user, or by anyone. What makes a page uneditable to a common user like you or I is the protect template. See the image on the Main Page for an example, no edits can be made to it by someone lower than sysop. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::I understand, but how did someone add the template to recent changes? --01:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC){{User:Dacheatbot/sig}}
:::The text on most special pages (including the recent changes page) is handled by pages in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=8 MediaWiki namespace]. And yes, only sysops can edit these pages. The text in the message at the top of the recent changes, watchlists, and login screen is sub-controlled by a template ({{tl|recentchangesnotice}}) that we placed on the relevant MediaWiki pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

==Appropriate Username==
I have a question about the user [[User:Old timey Strong Bad|Old timey Strong Bad]]. Is that username appropriate, because I think it isn't really due to the similarity to [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]. {{unsigned|Lopp3|21:35, 26 April 2006}}
:Our general prohibition against using the name of a character only seems to extend to the main characters. Secondary or variant characters are generally okay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

==Username Change==
If at all possible, please get around to changing my username. I left two notes on the [[HRWiki:Changing username]] page, but I still haven't had my name changed after a few days. {{User:Lopp3/sig}} 14:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

:You left your first request for a username change at 00:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC), fourteen hours and twenty-one minutes before posting your note here. You left your second request for a username change at 12:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC), only twelve hours and sixteen minutes after your first request. It has not even been one day, let alone a "few days." Please be patient. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== 65.167.69.XX ==

Hey, I did a little investigation. This IP range is notorious. I found blocks on it back to November, and comments that it is probably WoW. I know we gotta be reluctant to block a range, but I wanted to call your attention to this particular case. Take a look at the Block Log for the last 6 months to see what I am saying. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Poughwhatsie? ==

Actually, that's what I thought when that addition showed up a few days ago. It seemed like ''completely'' random trivia until I looked down at the context; "Poughkeepsie" is the destination in Homestar's word problem about trains entering tunnels. I guess this addition was an attempt to explain its significance (otherwise, why should two guys in Atlanta choose it aside from the funny-sounding name?). But if it's reinstated, it would need some rewrite to explain that (so the reader doesn't have to do the same thing I did). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:Meh, I don't see the point of including all that info, especially if there's any kind of link that can be clicked. It's barely mentioned in the toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== Patrolling ==

Perhaps you can clear something up for me? Are all users allowed/encouraged to patroll recent changes, or only those who have committed to the official "recent changes patrol"? [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's not necessary to sign up (although it's nice to know who has committed to the work). I never patrol an edit unless I am pretty sure of (1) the overall content of the article, (2) the intent of the editor, and (3) whether or not the edit is good for the article. (Vandal edits still get marked as patrolled, but the article is immediately reverted. Likewise, edits that add incorrect information are either reverted or reworked as the situation warrants. By marking an edit as patrolled, I am saying either that an edit was good or that I'll fix it.) Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::It does. Someday I may sign up for the patrol, but I think I want to observe for a while first. I'm still really new at determining the validity of edits, as my [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Template:STUFF/senior_prom| recent adventure]] with STUFF demonstrates. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
As you might have already noticed, I have finally joined up. However, patrolling has brought a new question: What standards do you use for the Talk pages? I assume they still need to be patrolled, but is that just to watch for cursing, flaming and the like? - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:35, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

== Even more recent block ==

I was wondering about the IP address you just blocked. I looked at his contributions, and his vandalism wasn't much. At least it didn't deserve a month-long block, in my opinion. So why did you blcok him for that long? Also, how did you know he was using the computer system at that school? Quizzical in someplace beginning with Q, — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
: I understand that you want to feel like you're in the loop, but unfortunately you do not have the standing here to question my actions in this way. Rest assured that I know exactly what I'm doing and have discussed matters with other admins. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Sorry. I wasn't trying to question your authority. I know well enough through my experience here that you have some of the best judgment I've ever seen. I would never question your actions. If you took it seriously, I apologize. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Recent change of the template that says "do not create this page"==
Absolutely brilliant. I had tried to edit the weather in london before, and it had the normal template. Now it's completely redone, including hatred by Strong Bad. Dot com, you truly do rock. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, now I get it. There's a template for each one. Both are really funny, actually. Great job. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Expanded basic cable ==

Hi. Master Chief has this friend and Masterchief always goes to his house. Yesterday i went to his house and When I went on this site, I saw that he had the same IP as me. So when Master Chief went to his friend's house he created sockpuppets and vandalized the wiki. Now he isn't Master Chief's friend anymore because they got into some fight. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Dude, you've fed us all so much crap over these last few months that I'm amazed that you think we're listening anymore. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::WHAT?!?! I didn't type that! It was probaly My brother or my cousin because I left myself logged on when I had to answer the phone. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Sure. Please see my above reply, and treble it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Is the rule about, "my (Some family member) did this" not allowed here as well.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 23:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::It isn't a rule per se, but without proof it is sure looked at with skepticism here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

==Checking IPs==
I know I can't check them on here, but I was wondering were you go to check who has what IP.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 21:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:There are around half a dozen ways, none of which I'm going to elaborate on here. If you look through the MediaWiki documentation, it might give you some insights. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::What is the link in the special pages that let me check Ip addresses. (The reason for my asking is because of my wiki.) The thing that I know that if I go there here, I will just get an error.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 16:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::If you installed your wiki yourself, then you already have the access necessary to check IPs. If it's a wiki-in-a-can, then it's likely that you don't have the extensions installed that you would need for that. Again, check your documentation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

== Dot com & Tom ==

Do both of you guys live in New York, as both of you were at a Yankees game? [[User:72.150.230.125|72.150.230.125]] 01:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:No, I'm from Texas (see my user page for more info). The cap I have on is the official hat of the [http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=tex Texas Rangers Baseball Club]. I was in the Tri-State area for three games that particular week: starting with Mets–Phillies (in Philadelphia), then Yankees–A's ([[:Image:Dot com & Tom.jpg|pictured]]), and finishing with Rangers–Yankees (which I am pleased to report [http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20060515&content_id=1455525&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=away Texas won], 4–2). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, so you were right near me and I didn't know it. (I'm about 45 minutes or so west of Philly with good traffic.) You shoulda stopped by. ;)
::Also, I jus' have to say it, coz you know someone's thinking it: as one collective entity, you make It's Dot Tom. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::You see, Dorian? That joke was already thought of on IRC. Why won't you log there some time? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==
Thank you very much. I don't appreciate being spoken about, especially when it was way back when. I've been thinking for a long time about how truly ungrateful he is, and it seems he's lost his privilege. Thanks so much. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:Do you think he'll go crazy like last time? Do you think he'll make tons of sockpuppets? Is he immature enought o retaliate like this every time he gets blocked? {shudders} — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::Meh, I don't really care that much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I don't think many people care at all. I suppose we can just revert it again and again. It's not even like he's doing much inconvenience. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

==IP address change==
My Ip I think has changed. I need you to check my Ip address and tell me what it is. If I am right then my Ip address has changed for some reason.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:To check your IP, just log out. It will tell you your IP where your username usually is. If it doesn't show it there, then edit the sandbox and check the history. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Am I allowed to say what it is?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::Um, if you want to. Some people try to protect that kind of info. (It won't be news to me, though.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Here is the difference, this is my now 68.184.181.214, and here is what it was, 66.169.190.116. What is up with that?-{{User:H*bad/sig}}
::::Those IPs are both used by the [[isp|ISP]] in your area. Speaking of, are you a Rangers, Mavs, or Cowboys fan? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Mavs fan. I also love the rangers. Do you happen live in the Dallas/ fort worth area?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, but I do live in Texas. (I did live in Mesquite and work in Plano for a summer, though.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Hey, maybe we will run into each other at like a mavs or rangers game. I'll hear your name and look over and see you. Wouldn't that be nice?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::That'd be cool. I'm planning on going to the one about a week from now (Sunday night). You can see what I look like (in a Rangers cap even) in the photo on my user page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:There is a major problem though, I kind of told my parents that I know everyone here from school, so I can't say hi to you.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::That's okay. Although I traditionally wear my Homestar running shirt to ballgames, so that other H*R fans can spot me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Although, I could make up a story that would make it ok for me to be talking to you.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

==Idea'd==
I have thought of something, that I think that needs changing. I believe that the fanstuff wiki should be able to use the Tavi style for our skin. Can that be arranged?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, is there a way to put it in a monobook? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
::I was talking about a way to have it as a seperate option.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I know. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
::::See [[#TaviStyle|above]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Wait we haven't upgraded yet??--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

==User page==

Are we allowed to have Wikipedia links on our userpages? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, yes. Check [[User:DorianGray|my page for a lot of them]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::See also [[HRWiki:User space]] for restrictions and conditions. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OK, thanks. I wasn't sure if maybe it causes a problem, like there being offensive content on Wikipedia articles (vandalism or not) that HRWiki can't do anything about. Well then, going to add my links... [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== Contribs ==
Do you think you could add the 'ctrbs' extension to the Fanstuff Wiki's recent changes? It'd make my job there a little easier. Thanks in advance. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
:That is standard in 1.6 (where it will be spelled 'contribs', incidentally). I recognize that it's taking us longer than we originally anticipated to make the upgrade. Don't give up hope of its happening, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
::You added it here... is it difficult to implement? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it involves making changes in about six spots of existing code. It's not just like adding an extension. If we don't upgrade real soon, then I'll see about making an exception to our lockout of changes to 1.5. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

==Troll sockpuppet==

Could you please not be so quick to assume that's what I am? Chris/Yeltensic/Granola has relatives just like everyone else. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

==Should I..==

..remove the vandalism thing from Darth's userpage? Or should I wait for him to do that or what? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 23:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

==Where's the page?==

When I try to get into the "Where's the Cheat?" page from the H*R updates page, it says "no page with that title exists," but when I get into it from the "Toons" section, it works fine. Is there a broken link, or is the problem at my end? [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 14:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

:To clarify, the link found at [[H*R.com updates 2002#Tuesday, February 26, 2002]] for [[Where's The Cheat?]] doesn't work, but the one at [[Toons#Big Toons]] does? What's really odd is that the error you're receiving is [[MediaWiki:Nogomatch]], which I thought was only shown when there's no exact match for a search done with the "Go" button. Is that the message you're seeing? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

::The closest I came to duplicating this problem is to type "Where's The Cheat" (without a question mark) in the search box. It also gives a similar error if you type "Where's The Cheat?" (with or without the question mark) in the URL. I'm going to make a redirect to fix those two things, but otherwise I can't recreate the problem as described. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

== When STUFF gets contradicted... ==

Hi, It's dot com. Here's a question that's been on my mind for a very, very long time (4 months):

What happens if we decline a STUFFed reference, thinking that it's unlikely, but then it turns out it was a reference after all? Say, for example, and I'm not saying that it is (even though I admit voting in favor), [[Happy Trogday]] WAS a homage to All Your Base, and that it is confirmed by TBC themselves on, say, the DVD commentary? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

:Well, we just write a nice letter to TBC explaining how they must be mistaken. Once we vote here, that's the end of it. :) Actually, this has happened several times (none springs to mind right this second, but I'm sure someone will list an example here shortly). In cases like that, we simply overturn our vote and note that TBC said so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I haven't yet looked it up, but I believe that "Ryan S." from [[theme park]] was such an example. You're welcome. :D --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:rampage#I.27m_on_a_Rainbow_.28originally_DECLINED.2C_now_ACCEPTED.29|Here]] is the one example of which I'm aware. And concerning AYB: Even though I voted to decline, I have always felt it was ''possible'' that fact was correct, and will not be surprised if we do have to un-decline it (nor will I be surprised if we don't). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

==Sockpuppetness==
I know sockpuppetry when I see it and I know that kk is a definate sockpuppet person. (I know how ironic) Anyways, I was wondering why it is that when someone creates an account on here, 2-3 others are created. So my question is, that do you beaucrats check every new user if they have another log in name?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 17:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:You have already asked me questions like this two or three times on this page, but I'm still not going to give you a straight answer. Nothing against you, but I don't like to post details of something like that. Nevertheless, it's probably not hard to infer certain things by posts I've made elsewhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thatkidsysop ==
Do you think you could make [[HRFWiki:User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] a sysop on the Fanstuff Wiki? There's been a concensus for him to be added to the team. (I actually posted this on the official forum's admin thread a little while ago, but it's been hours without a response and there's already a bit of excitement on the wiki.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:No wait. Lets make a discussion about this.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
No problem. For some reason that forum wasn't showing as having new messages for me. I know what it's like to be offered a promotion and then have to wait and wait for it to go through (in my case, the whole wiki was locked down for the server move). So I will not tell you to keep your pants on, for real. ;) H*bad, this talk page is not the right venue for a discussion on the promotion. In fact, simply by Joshua's posting here I assume that all the necessary discussion has already taken place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, sorry. The reason was only because I was just wondering about it. Thats all.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

== For you and all the others... ==

For You, Tom, Thunderbird, Joey, Stu, Bazooka, Rogue Leader, Phlip, Heimstern, Abdi Viklas, Drhaggis, E. L. Cool, Firebird, Qermaq, Coder, Jones, Jay, Kilroy, Lapper, Username, Dorian, Paper, and all the others...
Hey, I just want to thank all of you for what you do for the Wiki. I used your page because you seem to be the only one logged on. [[User:65.6.55.229|65.6.55.229]] 20:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, Anonymous, why don't you write a really nice thank-you note and then not attribute it to yourself. (Oh, kids can be so cruel. Just kidding.) Thanks, man! It's nice to be appreciated! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks from me, too! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Why thank you very much, it's always nice to hear that our work is appreciated. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Thanks, man. That really makes a sysop feel good. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Thenk you very much, Mister .229! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Thanks! (And gee; if you know all of us well enough to abbreviate names, you really ought to think about getting one of your own!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm very flattered. Thank you for your kind words, 65.6.55.229. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Note: DprianGray isn't a sysop. Just a note. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Neither is Qermaq, but there you go. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::Both DorianGray and Qermaq, if I may speak for the community, are quite respected users. They have the right to be named in that list of thanks. And after all, 65.6.55.229 never once said the word "sysop" in his note. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Okay, it seems I misunderstood. Since almost every user on that list was a sysop, I figured it was thanking the sysops only. >.> — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

== Magical Sysop Powers? ==

I've noticed that you and the other sysops around here are able to identify a user by their IP number. I have my own little personal wiki, running on the exact same version of MediaWiki as this one, of course without any changes made to this wiki after installation. As far as I can tell, I have no such all knowing, ip reading powers as the sysop of my wiki. Is this something you guys have edited the HRWiki to be able to do or am I completely missing a huge power of being a sysop? —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
:I have already asked. They won't say.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::Eh, okay then. Another mystery of the HRWiki goes unsolved. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I think they want to do this to us.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::::The bureaucrats at this wiki have installed the position of "developer". On some wikis it is called checkuser. It allows users to check IP addresses of users in addition to the normal sysop powers. So yes, it's edited in. - {{User:Bub/sig}}
:::::That's not quite right, but it's kind of close, so, yeah, let's go with that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

== Paranormal Idol ==

Could you check the IPs of Paranormal Idol and HomeTron V20 on the fanstuff wiki? I think they might be the same person. - {{User:Bub/sig}}
:Sorry, but a request for that info would have to come from a fanstuff sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
::Okay, could you please check the IPs of the following Fanstuff users: [[HRFWiki:User:HomeTron V20|HomeTron V20]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol|Paranormal Idol]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol2|Paranormal Idol2]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol3|Paranormal Idol3]] and [[HRFWiki:User:Ytmnd Boy|Ytmnd Boy]]. Here's the reason. (edited version of reasons written by Bub on [[HRFWiki:User talk:Joshua]].)
::HomeTron V20 was a player on an interactive game which Bub created. HomeTron apparently quit the wiki because his Fake Characters were getting deleted by Joshua (as per a different discussion). A couple of days later, a new user, Paranormal Idol joined the wiki. He then created two new accounts, Paranormal Idol2 and Paranormal Idol3, claiming that he lost the password to his original account. Paranormal Idol3 then joined the same interactive game. After playing it for a while and then dying (in the game), he left the wiki. A few minutes after this, Ytmnd Boy signed up and requested to be in Bub's interactive game using the same character as HomeTron V20. All of these users share the same style of grammar, spelling and the way they transcribe.
::In my opinion, this seems like valid grounds for an IP check. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Based on the IPs, they are the same user. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::A few minutes ago, I got the new messages flag, and an e-mail saying that my talk page had been created by you. Do you know why this has occurred? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes. I edited and saved your page without making any changes in order to force the system to send you that message but without creating a new version of your page. I hoped you would then guess that I had replied to you here, which you did, so it worked. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

==Help Another Wiki?==
Greetings from [[Wookieepedia:|Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki]]. :) I'm one of the administrators over there ([[Wookieepedia:User:Jaymach|Jaymach]], if you'd like to check) and I have been told by [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] that you may be able to help us with something we are attempting to implement over there. We're looking into possibly using your "Image Code" verification, but only want to use it for Page Moves rather than every Page Edit. Do you know if this is possible at all and, if it is, is there any chance you could inform us how to do so? Feel free to contact me on [[Wookieepedia:User_talk:Jaymach|my talk page]]. Many thanks. (I'd sign this, but it'd be from my anon IP so there seems little point)
:We are pleased to help you here, Andrew. Tom is sending you more info by email right now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello from Nikolce ==

Hi Its dot com, how have you been these last couple of uummm time?? Anyway how are you doing in school? By the way, are there any user that play warcraft 3 on battle net by any chance? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
: I've been doing well, Nikolce. I hope you're well as well. I don't currently go to school (I graduated from college six years ago). Sorry, but I'm not familiar with the game you mention. Keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Finals ==
Do you watch the Dallas Mavericks?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 14:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:I checked in on them four or five times yesterday [Game 1 of the NBA Finals, for those reading along] during the game, and I was happy they won. I'll probably see more of the later games in the series. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Also, their next game is Sunday, Sunday, Someday. Ok, bye.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 15:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Interwiki links ==
Hey It's dot com. I need some help with a link, it's [[Meta:Help:User style]]. It works here, but not on the Fanstuff User Preferences. Do you know why this is?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 15:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:It should work now. (I updated and synchronized the knowledge base and fanstuff interwiki tables.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. Now I can continue to make it more updated like.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== The latest most recent block ==
Why did you block Strong bad roks!, because it doesn't appear that he did anything wrong.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:No, but he was going to. Thanks for your concern. Please look over my talk page here and find every thread with the words "recent block" in the title before posting another thread like this one. Thanks again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Archives ==
Sorry if my last post was worded rude, mainly because I didn't word it very well. Anyways the reason I bring it up, is because anytime I post something on your talk page it takes forever for it to bring up your talk page.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 20:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:It's okay, but you should be aware that people generally already know when their talk page has gotten pretty long. Pestering them about it rarely does more than annoy them. If you look at the top of the page, you'll see that I've already archived once before. Maybe I will again someday. Who knows, maybe even soon. There are a lot of other projects I'm working on, however, that require more of my attention right now (like the long-overdue upgrade). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Master Chief's name ==

Hey, dot com. How did you know Master Chief's real name was Ryan? That is his real name. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:Well, Brendan, you'd be surprised what information is out there if you know where to dig. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
::You mean on my talk page's history? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, there's that, but he created [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Log?user=!!!!_Ryan_ON_WHEELS! this account] as well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, how'd you know my name? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Like you said. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::But you knew my name before I said On my talk page's history. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Upgrade to 1.6 at the fanstuff wiki ==
Hey, awesome job, you and Tom really work harder than most people notice. The log in page is the best part, though. however, do you think you'll be able to add the poopsmith border again? I'm just wondering if 1.6 can't do that. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:I love the RSS upgrade....But one question: Why did you upgrade the HRFWiki before the HRWiki? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 02:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::We try to shake down any problems we're going to encounter there before we apply the upgrade here. Not all fanstuffers are happy with this arrangement, but it's the best we've got, as it allows us to identify problems using a database that already has an enormous amount of content. If it's any consolation to them, we did spend an extensive amout of time testing the new features before we committed them to the live wiki. As for the Poopsmith, I don't know when or whether we'll be seeing him again soon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==Unblock==
Please unblocking 82.42.237.114 on a provisional basis. the vandals
are gone! [[User:Go-glow|Go-glow]] 13:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Forget it. I have records of at least a dozen vandal accounts from that address over the last six months, and the content of the vandalism is worse than most. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

== Hi ==

I was just lookin around on the wiki this morning and decided that I'd leave a brief hello message for you. 

Hi, It's Dot Com. 
I haven't really talked with you too much, so I felt like leaving you a message. What's up with you in real life lately? Anything cool happening that you'd like to talk about? Any interesting stories or other stuff? Are there any Wiki projects that need serious cleaning up or any pages that need creating? If so, I'd be glad to help with them. I don't really have too much wiki time any mroe, but I have a chance to be on this morning for a little while. I'd be glad to assist with any ongoing projects that are in need of serious help. If you get a chance, please reply on my talk page.

{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 13:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Could I add you to my friends list? I'd like to recognize you on my userpage for your remarkable work on this wiki over the time you've been here. Thanks for your time.

:Well, sure. You can't have too many friends. To answer your other questions: The Rangers are still doing well, and that makes me happy. I can't think of any projects off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's some good ideas over at [[HRWiki:The Stick]]. I also can't think of any pages that need to be created. I wish they would release the next toon so we can make a page for ''it''. (By the way, I replied here instead of your talk page because it's generally better to keep discussion in one place.) Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
::Alrighty then. ADD'D!!!!!--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 16:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki pages==
What exactly do MediaWiki pages do? I'm confuzzled...— {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:See [[Meta:Help:MediaWiki namespace]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== A troll's IP ==
Hey, Dot com. I found a trolls IP address, and I was wondering what I should do with it.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 15:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
:I guess you should just hang on to it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, but he is a pain in the neck. I know him. He has trolled on the fanstuff before. And I just want to be done with him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 15:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

== Deleting user names ==
Hey Dot com. I heard from some very reliable sources that you guys can delete user names.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:"Can" is such a big word. Of course I ''can'' delete usernames. I can delete the whole wiki. (Not that I'm going to.) As for whether I ''will'' delete usernames, the answer is no; in general our [[HRWiki:Privacy policy#Removal of user accounts|policy]] is not to do that. Who said otherwise? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::It just seems like its not a very good idea to keep a username on the list, like NSMC, some inappropriate usernames, Willy on wheels, etc. Well maybe not NSMC, for historical reasons. And I never said anyone said otherwise.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, can can also just change there username to something else. I'm not saying that he's going to. He ''might'' but I doubt it. --{{User:the thing/sig}} 14:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::Yes you did. You said, "I heard from some very reliable sources." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, well, I was on the mediawiki channel asking questions.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes, it is technically possible, and yes, in certain very unusual circumstances it has been done, but no, we don't do it otherwise. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Really? When was it done? Also, I found out mediawiki 1.7 will be coming out in July.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::Great. I'd hate for them to actually use a version for a while. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, they told me that its going to look much better than 1.6.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::In reply to the other question: It was used after NSMC's vandalism was cleaned up. All the individual accounts were deleted and consolidated into [[User:NSMC vandal|one account]]. - {{User:Bub/sig}}

== El Cid... lcid... Are Cid... rcid... ==

Hey! [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Cutepetsrus&diff=next&oldid=338955 What's] "rcid"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
:It's the "Recent Changes ID". Each entry in the [[Meta:Recentchanges table|`recentchanges` table]] has a unique ID, which shows up in the URL when you click "diff" from [[Special:Recentchanges]] on an edit that hasn't been patrolled. The "rcid" part tells the system to display the "park as patrolled" link as you view the diff (even if the edit has [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&curid=710&diff=338906&oldid=338904&rcid=287736 already been patrolled]), and so it's not necessary to be included in a link on a talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== Rangers ==
Hey just in case you didn't get my memo, I am going to a rangers game on wednesday. I know your most likely going to erase this, but just so you know.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:That's cool. I am thinking about going on Tuesday for the Fourth and the fireworks, but I'll have to see. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I would figure thats when its going to be the most crowded.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::And I just got back. They won! Back to back homeruns. It was cool. Hey were you there? Or were you there at the July 4th game?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
::::No, I didn't get to go to that one. (That's too bad, 'cause I love patriotic-themed fireworks.) Glad your game was good, and hey, they're tied for first right now! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

== Bad wording... ==
Hey Dot com. I was wondering about your accually typing the word (A good way of saying it) whatsit on a page. I know you already know this, but there are little kids on here. Can you reword it, please?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:No, I'm not going to reword it. There is a difference between ''using'' a word and referring to a word ''as a word''. Assuming that the user doesn't already know what his name means, then there would be no way to explain to him what the problem is without resorting to pedantic euphemism or a click-through, both of which are unnecessary given that (1) we should be mature enough to calmly discuss any subject, (2) the whole name itself is already as offensive as or more offensive than its components, and (3) the likelihood that a random user will find that page is close to zero. If it makes you feel better, I'll put a language warning there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry, I was just making sure that everything is G or Pg rated here.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

== Marshie Face ==
[[Image:foodfaces.png|thumb|Both a little creepy]]
Okay, you win. I hadn't compared them side-by-side and was going solely by memory. They DO, after all, have a similar artistic style, even though I can now see that I was wrong in thinking they were the same. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Subst signatures ==

Hi, this is CapitalQ from TMBW.net. We just upgraded to MW 1.6 yesterday (only to see 1.7 stable released today, but that's another story), and after seeing that templates in signatures automatically turn into substrings, ACupOfCoffee pointed us [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.6#Substituted Signatures of Death|here]], where you state "I have created a new variable that allows me to disable this so-called feature, which I now have done." If you could tell me exactly how you went about doing that, I'd be very greatful. Thanks. :) -[[TMBW:User:CapitalQ|CapitalQ]] 02:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:No problem. I have replied on [[TMBW:User talk:CapitalQ#Subst'd sigs|your talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks, all set up! You rock. -[[TMBW:User:CapitalQ|CapitalQ]] 12:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar's Speech ==

DaAaaAAaaAaahhh! Hi, It's dot cayommm! It's KieferSkuunnk! I just wanted to thank you for the <s>flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital</s> help on my Homsar's Speech project! We're almost done now, but I still can't feel my leeeggs. Okay, bye-dee-bye! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== /wiki/ redirect ==

I asked Interruptor Jones about this, and he told me to tell you, so... I think /wiki/ should redirect to /index.php/ because whenever I want to look something up in HRWiki by typing in the URL, I invariably end up typing "/wiki/" and getting the ol' 404. I'd just add <tt>Redirect permanent /wiki/ http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/</tt> somewhere in the .htaccess file, and it should work automatically. I think it'd be even better to do it the other way around and make "/wiki/" the canonical form and have index.php redirect to that instead, but not having used the MediaWiki software, I don't know the exact configuration options. Oh... and ever thought about moving some of the stuff on this huge talk page to an archive page? ;) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 16:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:Isn't typing the URL out a bit cumbersome? Why not create a [http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keywords.html smart-keyword] instead? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::It's the way I've always done it, and it doesn't feel so cumbersome after having done it a million times with Wikipedia. Other people might not be aware of smart keywords (I wasn't until just now). Besides, what's the harm in setting up a redirect? :) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 21:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm not inclined to hack the wiki to aid one person's "way of always doing it". There are easier client-side options for what I percieve to be a client-side issue. Sorry. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::::But is it just one person's way of always doing it, or are other people doing it, too? And I still don't see the harm in just adding a line to .htaccess; you wouldn't even have to restart the server or anything. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 03:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::It's not that your request isn't easy to fulfill. I presented you with an alternative that would actually be quicker than if I made the change and you typed the entire URL. I don't see this as a problem with the wiki, I see it as an issue that is unique to a single user's behavior. Though I have to admit, I still might consider changing the <tt>index.php</tt> in the URL to <tt>wiki</tt> (making <tt>wiki</tt> the canonical form), but I'd want to go over the consequences of such a change with others first. (Note that this was [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 2#Mod rewrite to remove index.php from URLs|discussed once before]].) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm unindenting so this doesn't get too wide... anyway, we still haven't even established that I'm the only one who types /wiki/ -- do you have error log statistics to back it up, maybe? I also think the redirect would be a good idea because it would be more consistent with other wikis (I believe most of the most popular MediaWiki sites use /wiki/); inconsistency is why I make this error in the first place. I could make further arguments, for example, that the URL is part of the user interface of a website, and any user interface should anticipate user error. (It's not uncommon for a text-based program to understand both "exit" and "quit", for example.) I could make an analogy with "typo redirects" on wikis. I know, it sounds silly to back up such a little thing like this with so much, but it just feels like a redirect is the Right Thing. (I guess becoming a webmaster is having this effect on me.) Well, I don't suppose there's any more I can say on this subject, so do what you're gonna do. :) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 20:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== PHP upgrade ==

[[Special:Version]] still says that we're running PHP 4.4.2. Upgrade to PHP 5 unsccessful? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:Delayed. Turns out we need to upgrade [[Wikipedia:Red Hat Enterprise Linux|RHEL]] so that we can upgrade [[Wikipedia:Apache HTTP Server|Apache]] so that we can upgrade [[Wikipedia:PHP|PHP]] so that we can upgrade [[MW:|MediaWiki]]. We're going to try again over the weekend. (We ''did'' upgrade from 4.3.x to 4.4.2, for any of you keeping score at home.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
::Upgrading RHEL and Apache might not be necessary after all. We should have the CAPTCHA problem (which is really a missing libraries problem) fixed with the upgrade as well, which according to my information should be any time now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

== Special:Countedits ==
Could you please install the Count Edits extension on the Fanstuff? Many combolations, {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 08:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:That function is a server-intensive function (which is why it's restricted to sysops on this wiki). Perhaps you could elaborate on why you need it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::Honestly, we don't. I was simply interested (in counting edits). - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I see. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I am looking for documentation and an implementation of Special:CountEdits. If you can help, please contact me at the e-mail address here: http://en.csharp-online.net/index.php?title=User:WikiSysop.

Thanks for your help. --- Editor C# Online.NET

== Ni hao! ==

Hey, Dot com, just wanted to say hello from China! Hope all's going well for you. Things have been crazy in China (in an awesome way), but I can't imagine I'll get much time to tell all you guys until I return to the USA... anyway, just wanted to give you a long-distance greeting. Zaijian! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:China man that's gotta be fun! Some day I hope to visit China. Just won't be any time soon. I do plan to go to Kansas City Missouri for a few days this summer! Hi Dot com! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
::Hey juys! Looking forward to your return! (Although, Heimstern, it's kinda like you never left. What an increasingly small world we live in.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I think I'm in a bit of an abnormal situation here, to be honest. I'm in about the nicest hotel in Shuangliu county and stuff like that. So in some ways, I have a lot of the conveniences of home. A lot of places in China aren't like that, or so I hear. But then again, China is growing like crazy in terms of technology and modernization. It seems like ''everyone'' here has a cell phone. Like, ''more'' oft than in the USA. I don't have time to say much more now, though. We'll talk more when I return. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

== Olsen Twin'd!! ==

How did you know that the pictures in Teen Girl Squad 11 came from that M magazine? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I have to admit that I'm a big Mary-Kate and Ashley fan (Ash is my fave), and I've had a subscription to ''M'' since I was a twelve-years-old boy.  — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::Nice. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


== Old main page style ==

Don't get me wrong, I love the new style, but there are still people complaining (well, on the forum). Is there a way to put that old style as one of the skins in the preferences? If it's too much work, it's fine with me, I like this style better, but some people don't. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}
:We're not going to create and maintain another skin just for that old style. There are instructions out there somewhere on customizing one's personal CSS to make the main page like the old style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
::That works. I'll just tell people that. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}

== Quick reference guide ==
Ok, this has been bothering me for a while, why on the [[Template:stuffinstructions|STUFF instructions]] page is the words quick reference guide, in red?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
:It's not red; it's kind of a goldish color. It's a different color so that it will stand out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
::Really? It really looks bold red. Not even close to a goldish <s>colour</s>color. Weird.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it is a '''reddish-gold color,''' but not '''as red as a broken link.''' — '''[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]''' 03:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Guitar riff from "Personal favorites" ==

I noticed that the QotW page lacks the sound file for the "Wicked Guitar Solo". I have a copy of that file lurking here, though the file upload page seems to want images, so I figured I'd better not chance it. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

--Ian.

:Hi there Ian. Please email the file to [mailto:tom@hrwiki.org tom@hrwiki.org]. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== No fan of zeugma? ==

Aw, I loved [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Pi&curid=26404&diff=353018&oldid=353017&rcid=302440 that line]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:I am a fan of zeugma, but not when it seems unintentional. My personal fave: "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana" (Groucho Marx). Close runner-up: "You held your breath and the door for me" (Alanis Morissette). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

::Or the classic "If we do not hang together, we shall certainly hang separately." {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== 1 Username ==
Ok, I was looking through the system messages when one of them caught my eye, it said: "Sorry, you have already created $1 accounts. You can't make any more." is it possible to make the number a 1. So that there can't be anymore sockpuppets or something like that.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 05:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:Ok, I know that there is an option that will let you set the amount of accounts in one day, so why not have you and/or Tom turn on the option everyday?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
::Because this isn't that important to me personally. If you think this is something the entire wiki should consider, then you should bring it up in Da Basement. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you from Super Martyo Brother ==

I'd like to thank you for: 
*Changing my username
*Putting up with my noobish comments on talk pages
*and for just being so awesome!
You really do deserve a pizza trophy! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome, SMB! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

==Help, please?==

Sorry if I'm bothering you, but I'd like to patrol recent changes, and there's no one else to really ask. What do the red "!"s and "N"s mean? Sorry if I'm bothering you. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 20:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
: "!" means the page has not yet been marked as patrolled. "N" means that the page was created with the edit in question (and, thus, there will be no "diff" available for that edit.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::Oh! Now I understand. Thanks. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==
I wouldn't have lasted a week. Even though yes I am not on as much anymore because of band and whatnot, but still.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:No problem, just see that it doesn't happen again. If it does, I won't be able (which is to say, willing) to unblock the IP so quickly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I was about to say, "wait your an admin!". I get it, don't worry he won't be getting on the wiki anymore. I locked the internet with a very special password, that even with your "great" detective like skills couldn't get. Unless of coarse you have 20 life times tucked away with you..... anyways, thanks again. And I do mean again. --{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I guess he won't be a problem for you guys anymore.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 21:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

== long time no see ==

Hey there It's dot com, how have you been, havn't spoken in a long time, but now i can bacause its the school holidays for me. What's been happening with you?

Guess what: i recently had a maths and science test, and i got GOOD scores. 100% for science, and 107% for maths.

ps: i need to ask you something, you remember the time i asked you why you don't like the later seasons of simpsons, well on your userpage, it also says you don't like the later seasons of family guy either, whats the reason? Can i say , to me sometimes the ''recent'' episodes aren't the same as before. some of them use the same joke as before eg: marge and homer repeatetl arguing. Marge has changed alot, before she was a likeable character, now she seems.... different, do you get me?

Final note: What would be your favourite quotes of the simpsons, from the top of my head it's:

"And i say, a monkey ''can'' mown our lawn". Homer of the distance.
"I fell 8000 feet onto a pile of jagged rocks". Abe Simpson.
"(Austrian accent)Good-moring and welcome to advanced physics,1-0-1, i see alot of new faces, but as the old saying goes: "Out with the old, in with the Nuclues".(everyone laughs except homer). "Now let me just- whoops(drops notes). Homer stars laughing hard:"aha aha hah haha, a did you see that jerk, ah ah ah ha hah , AAAAAA he DROPED HE'S NOTES, AAAAAAA HAH HA H AH H aAAAAAAAAAA HA HA H A.

To me, this is one of my favourite episodes, mostly becasue i can make jokes to my brother about him being in University himself: "Have you spoken with your Austrian professor yet", and "Have you found your secret "Dungeons and Dragons lairr, thats has Nerds secretly studing and playing with characters at level 40" etc.

talk atch you later (sp)
[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

i forget to ask you so so, something serious: How do you make those things on wiki that link to other websiter, like insted of having this website in full writing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nf1VMk0o4Iw, you shorten it into a small thing, how's it done?

ps: at this video on youtube, go to the time 09:26, this is where the joke is where homer is laughing.

==Text could not be found==

On the [[Strong Badman]] page I got an error that says that the text could not be found, and I should report it to an administrator. Do you think it has anything to do with the recent maintnance? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:That page seems to be working fine to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::If that happens again, you can fix it by purging the page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Question ==
Hey, IDC. I was wondering if you could let me know how you "hard-coded" the header for [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] to appear from [[MediaWiki:Sandbox]] all invisible-like. I just noticed it and I thought it was pretty nifty. --'''[[User:porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:porplemontage|talk]]'') 02:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:I inserted some hooks into Article.php and wrote a hook function that draws on these [[Mediawiki:Sandbox|two]] [[Mediawiki:Introduction|pages]]. The procedure might change when we upgrade to 1.8. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
::Could you show me the code you used? --'''[[User:Porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]'') 05:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== Permanent Edit Removal ==
I remember how the last time the Fanstuff got attacked by a troll who placed highly unappropriate images on pages, you permanently deleted those versions of the pages from the database. You may want to do that again with edits by the troll [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/NKSCF|NKSCF]]. Most of the pages he put images on were deleted (not sure if you still want to delete them from the database), but there's one on Y2K's [[HRFWiki:User:Y2K|userpage]] that still remains. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 08:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:You could just delete the page, and then restore all the edits except that one... it would still be in [[Special:Undelete]], but you don't need admin powers to do it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Update Icons ==

It's dot com, I noticed a bit of some messy whitespace on the edges of two of the Main Page update icons ([[Image:update-cs.png]] and [[Image:update-ps.png]]). They look fine when they're situated at the top of the Main Page, where the gradient is lighter, but as you add more saturation to the background, the white edges really start to come through. Take a look toward the bottom of the [[Main Page]] to see what I mean. Anyways, I went ahead and tried to clean them up for you a bit, but unfortunately I was unable to upload new versions, since they're both set as protected pages. (As an aside: why are they set as protected pages in the first place?) The versions I made might look rougher on a purely white backdrop, but I think they blend pretty nicely on the gradient background on the main page, comparatively speaking. So here they are, use them if you like:
* http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8674/updatepsqm5.png
* http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7750/updatecsej0.png
--{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 00:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:The problem with the images you made is that they use an 8-bit transparency, which is currently not recognized by Internet Explorer. Enough of our readership still uses IE that we have to go with the older 1-bit transparency. Thanks for trying, though! The images are protected because they are on the main page, and otherwise it would very easy for someone to upload something very objectionable in their place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes and Homsar Quotes ==

Hi there its dot com!! Loafing redirected my problem to you. I made a Homsar random quote userbox (see my User Page - first on the userbox list) and was trying to add it to the Userbox page for the benefit of the Wiki. So everyone could see it and enjoy the bounty of it's... well whatever it is the same as I do. So I go to the Userbox page and try to add it in. Problem. It won't add into the <userboxsample> tag because of the homsarquote template. Of course, it works OUTSIDE of the tag, so it works on my page and everywhere else. I just can't make it display in the table on that page. Any way that can be fixed? Thanks a ton. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 08:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. The braces around the homsarquote template have to be escaped inside the userboxsamples tags. View [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Userbox&diff=377189&oldid=376519 this edit] to see the method and the result. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::: Hey thanks. I thought the random homsar box would be a good idea. Heh, I like the change to "Words of wisdom" better than just Homsar Quote. Good call. lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== ParserFunctions ==

A little late on this, but I just noticed: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AQermaq%2FWords_said_or_seen_once&diff=374614&oldid=374198 good work], and thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:No prob, Bob. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Happy X0th birthday, Dot com! ==

Happy birthday, to my twin sysop brother and world's youngest man! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Happy X0th! 86% of the way to being eligible to run for president — plus, you've already got a winning slogan: "Vote for Ben, He's dot gov!" Eat a cake, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Herzliche Glückswünschen zum Geburtstag! Have a great day, and may you never get the black lung. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Happy thirtieth email, Dot com! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Happy birthday, Dot com. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Tanjyobi Omedeto, Dot com-san. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Wow... that's just a little bit less... than 32... I learned that in school! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Welcome to deadness. You'll see, it's not so bad after all ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yom huledet shloshim same'akh! It's dot old... Just kiddin'. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Happy B Day Dot Com. May you eat some cake :) {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Oh, I missed your birthday, happy late birthday. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Dude, how did I miss this? Happy birthday....late... late birthday.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 23:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Happy birthday, Ben. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 01:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I'm also a little late in saying this, but happy birthday, Dot com. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 02:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Spits out coffee* Dot com's name is Ben??! Which is said in the first line of a page that I've read but I still didn't know??!?! {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Happy hundredth birthday, Strong Bad! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Hey, I didn't know it was your Bday... Happy uh... Bday!!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Oh. I missed it. Still. Hope you HAD a happy Bday!!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Wow, you and my sister have almost the same birthday. Difference of one day. ;) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 05:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::Ah, I missed it. Happy REALLY late birthday. [[User:Powered by The Kate|Powered by The Kate]]

== Error ==

Look at [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] - at this moment, it offers:

<blockquote>The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found, named "The House That Gave Sucky Treats". 
This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history link to a page that has been deleted. 
If this is not the case, you may have found a bug in the software. Please report this to an administrator, making note of the URL.</blockquote>

This is abnormal, no? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:I just purged it. Looks normal now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== poll ==

Sorry it the poll is not quite what you were looking for. Let me know if I can help in any way. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Sure thing. As Loafing just pointed out, it's still early for a poll. I feel that there are more ideas and discussion to be had first. Also, I don't think we need to have all 21 or whatever the number is now be included in the eventual poll. Just the best finalists. By the way, I do agree that we need to start organizing the page, and possibly start a new page at, oh, say, [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006]] or something. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::If we are still that early I might make a few of my own then. I usually say that and get busy with the family but for something like this I might just carve out some weekend time. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::also you might want to put a note after Lapper's comments so that others don't take their cue from him like I did. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman = Poopsmith 20X6? ==

You mentioned in one of your edit summaries that you would divulge any evidence that Sticklyman is the Poopsmith's 20X6 counterpart, but I can't find your answer. Does the commentary of "Under Construction" shed any light on the subject? [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 20:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Alas, it does ''not'' seem like Sticklyman and the Poopsmith are related in any way. They mentioned a couple of other generic references (under-construction icons in general; fighting stick-men in animé), but no mention of everyone's second-favorite guy (he's No. 2). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::That sucks. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 21:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Tampo ==

Can you please unblock [[User:Tampo|Tampo]]? He's really sorry for...... whatever he did (if any) and I think he's done his time. You don't have to but I'm just asking nicely if you please would. And uh.... Mr. Peanut was a good boy. {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

:Tampo {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3AIpblocklist&action=search&limit=&ip=Tampo isn't blocked}} and {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Tampo never was blocked}}. Why are you making such an odd request on behalf of a user that left on his own volition and hasn't been around in months? If he wanted to edit, he could quite literally just edit. Are you acting as his proxy by his request or is this your own doing? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:09, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
::His IP address is blocked, at least that's what he told me. He can't edit. {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:::{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3AIpblocklist&action=search&limit=&ip=24.77.42.48 Oh yeah.}} We'll think about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Dot com can feel free to revert this if he wants, but let me mention this - in real life, sometimes you run out of chances. You show up to work late too many times, eventually you are not going to be welcome there, and no amount of pleading will help. When you hurt a friend enough times, it can happen that they will no longer be your friend, despite any of your attempts to make up for it. I think if a person violates a wiki's way of doing business often enough and persistently enough, it's not unfair to say "Sorry, you aren't welcome here" at some point. I'll leave it to others to determine whether Tampo's abuses of the wiki were "too much", but honestly, if the decision were left to me and me alone, there's be no way someone with an established history of abuse would be allowed back in. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
The thing, after reading [[wikipedia:User talk:Danny Fenton#Tampo|this discussion]], it appears that a) this is more your idea than Tampo's and b) that he did not at all say that he's sorry. Please do not contact vandals with the aim of bringing them back to the wiki and then lie to us about what they said.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:08, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:Hold on... he's not blocked from fanstuff!?!?!?!?!? {{User:The thing/sig}} 18:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::So what? This is the knowledge base. Please stop posting on my page about this. I have said we will think about it and at present that is all we are planning to do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:55, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

==Inactive on Forum==
You're an admin here and on the forum, right? Well, I registered to the Forum a long time ago, and I've been inactive all this time cause I didn't know what it meant, and I deleted the confirmation email. Now that I finnaly know (thanks to Joshua on the Fanstuff), can you please do something about my inactive-ness on the Forum? I'd really like to be there, where it's really active on topics. {{User:Spyrox6/sig}}
:I went ahead and marked your account as active. Enjoy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== Knowledge Base - Fanstuff Redirects ==
Correct me if I'm wrong, but <s>are you asking for a challenge</s> I believe there's a column in the `interwiki` table named `iw_local` that allows redirects between local wikis. Could this be enabled for the Knowledge Base on the Fanstuff and vice versa? There are currently 18 such redirects currently on the Fanstuff and 3 on the Knowledge Base. It was prolly be more convenient if this was enabled. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:You are correct; that does work. I will have to discuss whether we want to enable it. Some might appreciate the click-through as notice that they were leaving the knowledge base. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

::We've enabled this kind of redirect from Fanstuff to the Knowledge Base on a provisional basis. Let us know how it works. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

== do we see the similarities? ==

[[Image:Internetdotcom.PNG]] 
Your It's dot com, it's Internet dot com...you talked to Karen just last week...you think she put in a good word for you? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

==Sorry==
Note to self: "Keep your mouth closed more often Ilko." Sorry that I seem to be defeating myself (and the process to some extent) in the logo discussion. I keep telling myself to just sit back and be quiet and not keep reacting to things, but so far have been far too reactionary. Just wanted to appologize for being too. . .well too whatever you want to call it. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== Move Page Modification ==
I was thinking that it would be convenient to have an option for sysops (and other people with the 'delete' permission) to have a checkbox when moving a page that would delete the redirect automatically without having to do it manually. So, I went and made some code changes to SpecialMovepage.php, and I have what I think is a working implementation of my idea.

All the technicalities out of the way, I'm asking if you could put this onto the Fanstuff. It would be of great convenience when reverting the page move trolls which are all too frequent now-a-days, and when fixing things such as Text Adventures subpages, which are a large problem. The code for 1.8.2 is [http://simpedia.5gigs.com/files/SpecialMovepage.txt here], and the system messages required are [http://simpedia.5gigs.com/files/RedirectDeletionMessages.xml here].

Could you please think about this and let me know? Thanks a plenty, {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 16:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:I believe there already is that function. I've done it a couple times this week. You have to press the move page button, and then another page will come up with the Delete & Move option. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::That's a similar function - it deletes the page you're moving to, rather than the redirect it leaves. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== A History - logo ==

Hey It's dot com, for {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:A_History&diff=next&oldid=395453 this edit}}, was this discussed on the wiki on IRC? Either way, I think it would be good nugget of history if we knew when the discussions began in their most primative forms. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== duplicate accounts ==

Hey. I noticed that the user account [[Special:Contributions/Rico crazy?|Rico crazy?]] was created on 12/20/06 and [[Special:Contributions/Rico*crazy?|Rico*crazy?]] was creadted on 12/21/06. Is this the same person? If so, where do we state that people can only have one account? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
:On the one hand, duplicate accounts like that are not allowed, but on the other hand, we usually don't mess with trying to fix it unless there's some good reason. It seems to me (without actually looking anything up) that accounts like those don't tend to have many contribs, so it's not worth bothering over. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

== And A Merry Decemberween to You As Well ==

'''It's''', it's good to hear from you. Wishing you and your fine group of admins the best and continuing success at running my favorite Homestar Runner resource. ''Huttah!'' — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 00:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

== Transclusion templates ==

Hi Dot com,

The reason I had 4 different templates was in order to have a separate category for each language, thus making it easier for speakers of specific languages to know which pages need to be verified in their language as well. A generic template wouldn't do that. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yes it will. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDC:''' Ohhh! nevermind I see it now! oops! Hey what about the {{tl|subtitlesLinks}} template, it doesn't seem to work. I was too slow to get to you first ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::Oh i see the language template, sneaky! I'm slow. And tired. Thanks for the fix! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:::[edit conflict] The {{t|subtitlesLinks}} template (which could probaby use some non-transcluded documentation) adds links to the subtitles pages over underneath the external links (below the toolbox and search box) on the left side there. What seems to be the problem? It looks like it's working correctly to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the info! Although I *just* saw the reply. (I'm rusty, I know.) I [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Adding_Subtitles_section_and_other_Issues|figured out]] what was going on just as Loafing had left me a message. It's all good now! But yeah documentation and some "advertisement" would help. My eyes are trained to pretty much avoid looking at the left column unless there's something there I know I need. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I added some documentation. As for the placement of the links, we felt that they should be easily accessible for those who know where to look and yet completely out of the way for those who are simply reading the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::Noticed the doc. Looks nice! As for the link placement... Ah! Makes sense! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

== New year? ==

Pushing the season, are we? Not a new year anywhere for at least 4 hours! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

== Logo redo ==

Hey, If you made the new logo on Flash, may I see the .fla file? Im makning a new logo for the Fanstuff (most likely only used for my monobook), but I cant just get it correct. {{User:X66x66/sig}}
:I didn't use Flash. The logo was made using a raster, rather than a vector, process. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
::Whats a raster? And if it isnt too much to ask, could you make a redone Fanstuff logo?--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 22:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:::A raster image, also called a [[ahd:61/61/B0286185.html|bitmap]], is an image formed by a grid of pixels (rather than a mathematical formula). JPEGs, GIFs, PNGs, and TIFFs are all examples of raster formats. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
::::<s>Ooohh did you use Photoshop or one of those art programs and if you dont want to make a redone fanstuff logo, thats ok with me and I'll understand!{{User:X66x66/sig}}</s>
What program did you use?--{{User:X66x66/sig}}20:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:Photoshop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::Then how do you make it animated?--{{User:X66x66/sig}}20:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Using two frames in an animated GIF. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the tips! {{User:X66x66/sig}} 20:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I'm sorry Dot Com! I'll wait for a concensus. I was just doing what Qermaq suggested. Also, I thought I did address your points on the talk page, but I guess I didn't do a very good job of it. Okay, no more literary present edits! (Sorry again!) {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 17:50, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:There's really no need to apologize (especially not three times). As I write this, I have the last post in that thread, so I'm not sure where you addressed my points. The addition you made to the project page is not the way we currently write, and therefore we need to get a lot more input (and perhaps hash out the wording) on the talk page before any changes are made to the project page. (On the other hand, if all you want to do is enunciate what we already do, then that can be easily added—but we need to figure out what that is.) All in all, keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== HRWiki Forum ==

I've tried to register on the forum two times, under NachoMan and NachoZ, and I never get the account activation email. Is it because I'm using an AOL email address or something else? -- [[User:NachoMan|NachoMan]] 19:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know what the problem was, but I activated the NachoMan account. Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks a bunch! -- {{User:NachoMan/sig}} 20:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

== <s>My name change</s> ==
<s>I don't mean to bug you... sorry if I am, no really sorry. Anyways, I think that it is time for my name to be changed. It's not like I am leaving the wiki... not pulling a rainer... seriously... or whoever else. 
Cheers, 
--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 23:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)</s>

==An Epic Apology==
*Dear It's dot com, in regards to my stupidity in creating a sockpuppet, I would like to say a few things for myself:
*Even though I lost a bet (an NFL Playoff bet), I still could've chosen not to be dishonest and jeopardized the Wiki. Sockpuppetry is a very treason-esque thing to do to a community, and I am truly sorry and embarrassed that I partook in such a sort of action. My reputation and my judgment from others is now set back to 0, and I must start over. I never should of started a fake account.
*Well, on the other hand, during my block, it was literally ''killing'' me, seeing all of the unwelcomed visitors, flash artifacts to be reverted, and the act of helping confused users... it all made me go crazy.
*I, also, starting now, will not edit namespace unless needed. I noticed on my contribs that is is getting monotonous that I am adding to my "edits" every twenty minutes or so. I'm just gonna leave it all alone. Who cares how much edits I have? Anyway, yes, I am going to edit articles for the majority from now on.
*I gravely hope you accept this apology, and I am now looking forward to a problem-free era here.

Sincerely,

{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

P.S. Did you receive my email?

:I'm not Dot Com, but I certainly forgive you for giving in to a stupid bet. Everybody makes mistakes and you don't have to kill yourself about just one, so you learned a valuable lesson from this experience and that is that sockpuppets are a very bad thing. I'd still like to see you around the wiki as much as I have before this ordeal and I hope you'll do just that. Regards, -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 18:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, yes. I plan to have a future here. I'll still be around often, but I'm not going to edit userspace often. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 19:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::That's good. I only edit my userpage when information on it becomes outdated, so you might try that. I hope Dot Com shows up to see your apology relatively soon. I'm sure he'll forgive you as well. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 19:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, he's a nice guy. And smart. Definitely smart. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 19:19, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::I hope you can make good on your promise to stay out of the user space. I wish you well with that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Notice on [[Subtitles:sbemail/en]] ==

Your notice, though it would be useful, made the subtitles not work. I moved it to the talk page. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 15:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:It looks like it wasn't the note itself, but rather the comment under it, that was causing the trouble. Can you confirm? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::The subtitles viewers strip templates and <nowiki><pre></nowiki> tags from subtitles scripts. Everything else remains, and if something is left outside the <nowiki><xml></nowiki> element, the viewers won't be able to parse the script. It works now.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
:::A comment can go anywhere after the <code><?xml ?></code> line – it can be outside the <code><transcript></code> tags without any problems, but it is important that the <code><?xml ?></code> line is the first thing on the page after <code><pre></code> tags and templates are removed, or the parser will fail. Incidentally, the box at the top doesn't ''have'' to be a separate template in order to be stripped out... <code><nowiki><noinclude></noinclude></nowiki></code> also works. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, a template was where I was headed anyway, since it should also be used on the corresponding pages once the page gets translated. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

== Trendy Totebag's Nintendo Thing ==

Does that count as a guestbook? Sorry for signing it; I really didn't know. Also, you probably should've asked him before you deleted a whole section on his userpage. Even though it probably needs to go, he needs to delete it himself. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 03:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, it counts as a corollary to a guestbook. Just so you know, I did exactly what I should have done. According to our [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|user space policy]], users, especially administrators, can edit another's user page "to bring it in line with policy," which is what I was doing. It is true that in most cases, a talk page note is preferred; however, the user in question is no longer active, and the mere fact that you signed the list showed that it needed to be removed. Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
::I'm sorry. If I see anymore guestbooks, I'll report them at Da Basement or something. I assume only admins/sysops are allowed to delete guestbooks, so I won't delete them myself. Anyways, see you later! -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 21:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

== Tsk, tsk, Dot com... ==

Hey Dot com, just wanted to let you know that your [[User:It's dot com/welcome|welcome template]] is not XHTML 1.0 Transitional {{pl|l=http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrwiki.org%2Findex.php%2FUser%3AIt%2527s_dot_com%2Fwelcome&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&verbose=1 compliant}}. I found out while validating {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AStux&diff=429512&oldid=429508 my own page}} (that was the only correct way for me to fix it). Oh BTW, you might want to consider re-archiving {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:It%27s_dot_com#Trogdor.21 your talk page}}! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:I'll get ''right'' on that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Profound Fanstuff Contributions ==
Hello Dot com. I just wanted to say that you did the best Poopsmith impression ever [[HRFWiki:Character Impressions#The Poopsmith Impressions|here]]! Oh, man. I never laughed so hard! Good day, and keep kickin' sockpuppet butt! ;-) --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks! For those who wonder, I really did record it myself. I even got it on the first take! (My impression of Pom Pom, which is also on that page, took several takes to get right.) Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah I saw that. Keep on tranglin. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Redirects A-Plenty==
Hey Dot com, out of curiosity what are [[User:It's dot com/redirects|these]] [[User talk:It's dot com/redirects|pages]] for? If you're keeping track of all redirects, wouldn't a script do that? (Or doesn't Media Wiki already?) Also, unless it gets rv'd here's {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=SBLOUNSKCHED%21_Jingle&curid=32839&diff=430323&oldid=429198&rcid=382058 another one}} for ya (I dunno if you want anyone else to edit any of those pages). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's some research I'm doing for a linking project I'm working on, which will be rolled out with the next upgrade. It's for a special class of redirects, not all of them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Look! The Doc Agees With Me ==

You don't understand t5hat article, do you!!!!!!!!! It has all the features it should have!!!!! Very Angry, {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} P.S. Your off my cool peeps list.
:Dear Sam. When someone nominates an article for deletion, and the article describes something very small within the entire Homestar Runner body of work, then we have a discussion about whether to keep it. You, as the creator of the article, should not remove the TBD notice until some time has passed and several people have had a chance to weigh in. The fact that one other user agrees with you does not mean that there is a consensus for the article to stay. I personally don't have a strong opinion either way; I'm just trying to make sure we follow the correct procedure. Let me caution you against editing the wiki while you are angry, by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Main Page Redirection ==

Hello Mr. Its dot com[[Names_ending_in_-erson|erson]] If you don't know, I'm a new member here. I was wondering how to edit the main page of the wiki and make redirect pages. Both of them I've tried to do but couldnt figure out. I thoght you could tell me. -[[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]]
:Hello, Mr. Homestar-winner. Several things on the main page are locked to help prevent vandalism, but there are a couple of sections you can edit, most notably the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew]] page. ... Redirects are pages that have text in the following form at the top: "<code><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[page to redirect to]]</nowiki></code>", and are otherwise blank. See [[Meta:Help:Redirect]]. Cheers! Incidentally, to sign your name, just type four tildes, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, and the system will automatically insert your name and a timestamp, like this: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks man, but I had gotten that far before (with the redirect page I mean). How do you automaticly make the page redirect such as with [[sbemail 1]] instead of the redirect page i tried to do: [[User:Homestar-Winner]]? [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]] 16:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The problem is that you had a space between the number sign and the word "REDIRECT". Incidentally, that redirect is unnecessary. I will be deleting it soon. If you would rather that your second name begin with a capital letter, say so [[HRWiki:Changing username|here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Ok, I don't mind you deleting it. I was just trying it out. My name is fine like it is. [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]] 17:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Plan G ==

If you don't want me to delete [[Email Intros]], please comment on [[Talk:Email Intros#Organize into a transcript|my suggestion]] on how to revise it. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:03, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:There is no reason to delete or merge that article; it describes a specific, separate feature. On the other hand, if you can make it into a better article, then by all means do so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== April fools ==

who was in charge of the main page and image code thing? Is there any other April fools stuff I missed? You should check out what I did. It took me almost all day yesterday.[[User:Homestar-winner]] 09:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== More about sysops again ==

When is the 2007 sysop's nomination? And how can I be a sysop? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:See [[User talk:It's dot com/Let's Get Started on Doing All Those Awesome Things I Suggested#How to become a sysop|here]], [[User talk:It's dot com#I want to be a sysop|here]], [[User talk:It's dot com#New sysops|here]], and most importantly [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

== In the future... ==

Hey. In the future please don't edit my page even if it's something like that. Ohhhh, but thank you anyways. I've been wanting to ask you a question. Who do you like more, Mark Texaira or Hank Blalock (Yes it's a Rangers question). I'm a big baseball fan too. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Sam, fixing technical issues on a userpage (including removing deleted images) is permitted and, indeed, is the right thing to do. So please don't give DC grief over it. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
::Teixeira. Although somebody once gave me a Blalock jersey, and I think he's cool too. I wore the jersey to Yankee Stadium last year the night the Rangers beat the Yankees in the opening game of their series there. Oh, and, in the future, please read [[:Category:HRWiki Policy|all of these]] (especially [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|this part]]) before posting here again. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

== MediaWiki 1.9 ==

You and [[User:Tom|Tom]] are doing an excellent jorb administrating, patching, updating, doctoring, and running our version of MediaWiki (and everything that goes along with it). Thank you so much for your hard work. ^_^{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:52, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, thanks for saying that! And you're welcome. It really is my pleasure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::It's likewise our pleasure to have someone as diligent and thorough as you running this process. You do so much to keep our wiki running both in technical sense and in a community sense. There's no one I'd rather have doing it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Thanks guys. To echo Dot com, it's my pleasure as well. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

==Something's Fishy...==
Hello Dot Com. I have a question. I am aware that the wiki upgraded to 1.9 and something doesn't seem right. In the Recent Changes, there used to be numbers by each change in the wiki showing how many bytes have been added/removed from the page. It is funny, because they do not show up on my computer anymore. Is there a reason for this? Thanks. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
:See his last post in [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_19#And_what.2C_pray_tell.2C__might_those_be.3F|this thread]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks Loaf. I haven't been here for a few days, so I kinda miss some conversations, if you know what I mean. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:38, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

== Welcoming Committee ==

What are those things that appear now when a new account is made? And does this mean we won't need a welcoming committee anymore? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:See [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 6#Welcome Messages|this]] and then [[HRWiki:Da Basement#Automatic links for new users|this]]. The welcoming committee is just as important now as ever, perhaps more, since it requires a little more attentiveness and creativity to make a good welcome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== More unblock ==

Hi, dot com. Can you PLEASE unblock me?? I am sorry for vandalizing the wiki, and I promise I wont do it. again. You don't have to, but I'm only asking nicely. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
:You seem to be able to edit the wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:38, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
::That's NOT what I meant. What I meant about unblocking me is unblocking my IP 24.77.42.48. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 22:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I know what you meant. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::So,      '''DEAL''' or '''NO DEAL'''?
:::::I really can't stand that show. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::Sorry, I find that show kind of annoying too because people always say "DEAL or NO DEAL", I hear it every day. But I'm just asking if you can unblock my IP. I'm editing from a cousin's house. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 00:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I think we've made our position clear in the past. The fact is, we gave you plenty of chances and we're just not ready to give you another one yet. Sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::And now with your {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com&diff=470748&oldid=423770 continued commitment to vandalism}} (please don't try to deny it; I have the logs to prove it), I doubt if we will ever unblock your IP. I also blocked your username, since it's pretty clear that you have no intention of ever contributing positively here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sorry about behaving-like-a-jerkism ==

Umm, hey. I didn't mean to be a jerk about [[Talk:Audio Quality|either]] of [[Talk:The Cheat's Privileges|these]]. And don't feel like I'm being predatory or anything, it happens all the time and I always want to give articles and stuff a chance. I know, it sucks to see your brain child get shot down. Maybe we can make it work. Anyway, I didn't mean to be nasty bow dat. {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 00:31, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

== replacement ==

Hey It's dot com. I was wondering, why did you [[User:It's dot com/replacement|make a subpage]] that is almost identicle to [[replacement]]? And is there any specific reason you chose that email? I'm not telling you to delete it though. I'm just curious. And by the way, I hope what I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=466482 put in the Sandbox] the other day didn't affend you or anything. I just wanted to make up funny ideas for reasons someone would block someone else, and you're like the most important sysop here to me. Eat a Steak! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:That page is for testing a proposed infobox format, one that didn't quite catch on. Feel free to read its [[User talk:It's dot com/replacement|talk page]] for more information. I'm not sure why I picked [[replacement]] (maybe because the infobox would replace the current format? That's kind of a lame guess, but it's the best I've got). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== a comment to it's dot com ==

hey it's dot com, you are awesome. that is all i have to say. [[User:74.245.20.195|74.245.20.195]] 04:03, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks, anonny! Every time that I look at myself, I can't believe how awesome I am. I mean, how awesome I ''aaaaaaaaaaaam...'' Out of curiosity, what prompted you to say so? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
::You are awesome for all you do for the wiki. [[User:74.245.20.195|74.245.20.195]] 22:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Now I'm curious, too! Good old Dot com really keeps the inner workings of the wiki going. But most of his awesomeness would not be visible to a "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=445985 random IP editor]" as you once called yourself ;-) How did you notice? And have you thought about [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|creating an account]]?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I have been here for awhile, I just haven't thought about creating an account. I just see a lot of good things that It's dot com and some other editors do.

== Order! ==

I've been making a lot of revisions to the [[alternate universe]] article lately (as you've probably noticed, seein' as how you're a recent changes junkie, according to your user page), and I've noticed that the Fun Facts aren't in any apparent order. Maybe my subconscious just made this up to confuse me, but don't they go in order according to the portion of the email they refer to, from first to last? Also, I was wondering about the validity of the "Senor Cardgage's legs" goof (in the same email). I can clearly see his right leg past Keyboard Strong Bad, and I'm pretty sure the only reason his left leg isn't visible is because it's obscured by his glove. Perhaps it's a fixed goof...? {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 03:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
:In general, yes, fun facts are supposed to be presented in the order the things they refer to appear in the toon. This is just a guideline, though, so as long as it's kinda close, it doesn't have to be exact. In other words, it's not worth fixing unless it greatly improves the readability of the section. As for your specific comments regarding Senor, I'm not familiar with that. Perhaps try bringing it up on the talk page of the toon. Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. I just thought that while I was asking about the page I'd see what you knew about it. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 04:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

== Randomizer ==

This conversation is copied from the IRC channel and edited to remove lines irrelevant to the point i'm bringing up:
<blockquote>
[2007-07-30 02:31:56] <DeFender1031> hmm.. hrwiki's page randomizer seems to be biased... 
[2007-07-30 02:32:15] <Bluebry> DeFender: a conservative or liberal bias? 
[2007-07-30 02:33:41] <DeFender1031> Bluebry, in other words, there are a lot of pages that i've gotten 10 times and there are a lot i've never gotten 
[2007-07-30 02:34:32] <Phlip> DeFender1031: You'd expect there to be a lot of pages you get 10 times, and some you've never gotten... if you get all of them the exactly same number of times, that would be an anomaly 
[2007-07-30 02:35:32] <DeFender1031> Phlip, but it should be close to the statistical mean, shouldn't it? 
[2007-07-30 02:37:26] <Phlip> hmm... it looks like the randomiser can be biased... 
[2007-07-30 02:37:37] <Phlip> to make it run fast 
[2007-07-30 02:38:38] <Phlip> each page has a random number assigned to it in the DB, which is changed every time the page is edited 
[2007-07-30 02:38:56] <Phlip> Special:Random picks a random number, and picks the page that has the closest number assigned to it 
[2007-07-30 02:39:33] <Phlip> so if the random numbers in the table aren't uniform, which they won't be, then the pages that're in the clumps will be chosen less often. 
[2007-07-30 02:40:26] <DeFender1031> well that's just stupid 
[2007-07-30 02:40:38] <Phlip> but it's much faster than any other method 
[2007-07-30 02:40:58] <DeFender1031> each one should have a number from when it's created, from 1 - 17XX and then the randomizer should pick like that 
[2007-07-30 02:41:12] <Phlip> when your site gets as many hits as WP, probably including a lot of bored users pounding the SP:R button, every speed increase helps 
[2007-07-30 02:41:27] <Phlip> DeFender1031: how would you handle page deletions? 
[2007-07-30 02:42:29] <DeFender1031> Phlip, very simple. when a page is deleted the last numbered page takes on that number instead, and the randomizer max goes down by 1 
[2007-07-30 02:45:15] <DeFender1031> Phlip, here's the thing. all pages get numbered. 1-1769 right? and the randomizer max gets set to 1769. then let's say #537 gets deleted, 1769 becomes 537, and the randmax becomes 1768 
[2007-07-30 02:45:28] <Phlip> hmm... that'd work 
[2007-07-30 02:46:14] <DeFender1031> Phlip, yeah it'd work, i've used that method many times in my own programs and it's the fastest method i've seen/tested. 
[2007-07-30 02:46:23] <Phlip> there'll be some extra SELECT MAX()s in various places... but I don't think they'd slow it down too much 
[2007-07-30 02:46:47] <DeFender1031> Phlip, so why this random value ridiculousness? 
</blockquote>
So now I ask you, why this random value ridiculousness? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:MediaWiki is a wonderful tool, but there are some screwy things about it, and it's not always geared toward smaller wikis. Feel free, however, to bring it up with the main MW developers and see if they'll change it. As for our wiki, the expense of hacking it from the default and maintaining it each time we upgrade outweighs the marginal benefit of doing so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Garr! Every time i suggest a useful improvement you shoot me down. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::That's an unfair generalization. In this case, however, it's just too trivial an issue to worry with changing it on our wiki only. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Here's my input. "Dice have no memory." Each roll of the dice is random; therefore, each outcome could be whatever. You could roll twenty 6's in a row. It's improbable, but it's certainly very possible. The question is, then, if changing the way the randomizer works would effect a real change? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::It's not quite that simple. The way the pages are chosen makes it more likely that—at any one time—certain pages will be favored over others. Suppose we have six pages. Instead of being numbered 1 to 6, each time a page is edited it is assigned a random value between 0 and 1, which are not guaranteed to be uniformly distributed (let's say ours are .01, .40, .67, .68, .69, and .92). Each time a random page is loaded, it selects the lowest value higher than another random value. If it chose .25 as the value, the .40 page would be returned. Under this system, .40 is 39 times more likely than .01 to be returned, and .67 is 27 times more likely than either .68 or .69. On a very large wiki, like Wikipedia, you probably wouldn't notice this. On a smaller wiki, apparently it is noticeable. It's not a perfect system, but it gets the job done well enough not to worry over. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::It's not "well enough". I sometimes do editing by clicking on random and reading the page to see what i can improve. It is annoying when the same page that i just read comes up 15 times without 75% of the other pages on the wiki coming up once. My system is just as fast and is even more efficient. And for the frequency that the wiki upgrades, i don't think it's that big of a deal. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::No, it does work well enough. I clicked on the random page button repeatedly, and it wasn't until the 49th click that I got a page that I'd seen before. Maybe the glitch happens enough to annoy someone looking for something to edit, but it's fine for someone looking for something to read, which is what the link was designed for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I had the chance to discuss this in depth with Phlip and Dot com, and what I learned is that the only way to make the results more balanced than they are now entails a lot more wear and tear on the server. Unfortunately, the way MW is set up this is the best they can do. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::We didn't say it was the best we could do. There are ways to make the distribution even that wouldn't adversely affect the server, but doing so would require rewriting the code and maintaining it later. At this time, there's just no need to do something like that, because the function is already doing the basic job it was designed to do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== Things to Do? ==

Hi again, Dot Com. I haven't been making many important edits to real pages (meaning not user talk pages) recently and I was wondering: Is there anything on the wiki that you or another sysop needs help with? I will try to help out with anything that I can. Sincerely, {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, there's not just a whole lot to do during the baby break. As always, however, you can head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]] for some ideas. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

== You are my parson of the week! ==
[[User:Kanjiro#Person of the week|Yep.]] --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 18:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, thanks! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== Questions and waffles. ==

Why can't I get on the forums? I can't log in because I am inactive and I can't make a new account because my email adress is in use. {{User:Homsar44withpie/sig}} 04:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:I've activated your account. Use it in good health. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

== Yay! ==
You won Person of the Day! {{unsigned|Numa Numa|17:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)}}
:Yay! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

== Autopipe/Autodirect ==

Hey, I was wondering if you'd mind sharing the Autopipe / Autodirect extension you wrote. I just started a MediaWiki wiki of my own, and I'd really like to be able to have page titles starting with lower-case letters without causing a bunch of broken links due to capitalization--the Autopipe / Autodirect extension would be perfect. FWIW, I'll mention on the wiki where I got the extension from...

(If you've seen the post on the forums about this...yeah, that was me; that was before I checked the Talk page of the Autopipe/Autodirect page (can't believe I hadn't thought to check that before) and saw that you wrote the extension, so I figured asking about it on your talk page might be more appropriate...) [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, it's not an extension so much as a direct hack to quite a few of the core pages. Given that it's all about to change when we upgrade in a few weeks, I'm not sure I'm comfortable releasing it into the wild at this point. I'll let you know if there are any developments, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::Hm, OK, I can't say I'm not a little disappointed, but I understand. If it ever does get to a point where you're comfortable releasing it, please let me know. Thanks. [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 21:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

User talk:It's dot com

Alun Clewe — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:16:57 GMT

Alun Clewe: /**/Autopipe / Autodirect

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= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Trogdor! </div> =

== Mean to young people? ==

You're my least favorite admin ever.
:Well, <s>''Bubsty''</s> (I was close. See below), one of the things you learn as an admin is that you can't please everybody all the time. I am, however, open to constructive criticism, so I'm a little disappointed that you didn't give me any more to go on than that one line. Or that you didn't at least sign your name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
::What? Did Bubsty write that? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Indeed. ''EDIT: Actually, his sister said that it was she who wrote the comment.'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Or perhaps somebody from his computer or something. He did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=241561 refer to Bubsty in the third person]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did this person edit da Basement? Didn't you block him for 3 days, TBird? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, he did, but I unblocked the IP, since the edit wasn't trolling or vandalism. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I see. And in response to Thunderbird's comment: I don't know that third person is really evidence it wasn't he; he could have been covering his tracks. What ''does'' baffle me, however, is that that IP wrote false information about Bubsty's guestbook being gone, when in fact Bubsty himself removed the deletion tag from his guestbook, something one would think Bubsty would know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Haha, I just mentioned that point a minute ago. But on IRC- I didn't bother updating my theory here. Thanks for pointing that out. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::That was me! Not Erik! And he told me he left the wiki, so I thought he had deleted his guestbook too. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Sigh*. So much for me leaving. Seems I have some explaining to do. Some things to clear this whole thing up:
::::::::::First off, I '''''DID NOT''''' write that comment above. I recently showed Sarah the comment you left on my user talk page a while ago telling me to stop using the list of users list to welcome people. Although I really didn't care that much about what you had written, she seemed to think of it as rude and insulting. I assume that comment was her "blowing off steam".
::::::::::It seems Dot Com thinks Thekillerdynamo is me. If you still have any questions about this whole thing, ''please'' tell me. I'll try to explain it.
::::::::::Finally, I'm really sorry (not to mentioned embarrased), that this whole thing happened. I'll '''try''' to have something like this ''never'' happen again. (Depends if a certain family member agrees).
::::::::::Sincerely,
::::::::::{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, as you can see below, all I knew for sure was that the edits were coming from your house. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
You do a lot on this wiki, but you're mean to the young people here. 10, 11, 12, and 13 year olds shouldn't have to act like a 28-year-old!
Can't you just be a ''bit'' nicer? I think more people would like you then.
Please; I'm not trolling - although I did blank your talk page. But that was so you would see this easier.
If you revert it (which I'm sure you will) can you at least think about being ''nicer''?
Once again, sorry for messing up your talk page. Just please read. Thanks! [[User:24.18.208.18|24.18.208.18]] 04:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: I think you're still a good admin. Just show some commen sense. (Of course, I should talk; Look who's about to get themselves blocked!)
:PPS: Oh, and about my first edit on this page; I admit that was me. But that was back when I didn't know what a wiki was and didn't know who you were. You ''aren't'' my least favorite admin ever. In fact, you're one of my favs! If you want to block me for that, go ahead; I deserve it.
::Why don't you log in so we can discuss this. Talking through an IP address isn't the kind of conversation we should be having. I'm not going to block you. If I wanted to block you, I would have blocked your IP a long time ago. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok, I made a user. [[User:That One User|That One User]] 06:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't mean make a sockpuppet, I mean log in as yourself. You have obviously been around for a bit for you to hold the opinion you do, and, looking closely, you are either Bubsty or, at the very least, someone inside his house. So, c'mon now, Erik, Sarah, whoever... log in for real if you actually want to talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did you know? [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 00:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hang on now, let me make sure I have this right... You're telling me that someone who has [[Special:Contributions/Thekillerdynamo|18 total contributions]] (as of this writing, none of which are in the article namespace) and to whom the only thing [[User talk:It's dot com/These Peoples Try to Fade Me#Hi_from_Thekillerdynamo|I've ever said]] is "Welcome to the wiki, Sarah! Ask your brother to show you how to sign your name," would suddenly and for no apparent reason get so annoyed with me as to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=240812&oldid=240757 put this] on my page? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't add up. Perhaps you could explain yourself a little... or come clean. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Seems odd right? Actully, I've just seen what you've said to other people (like the thing) and what you said to Bubsty that one time. That was why I said "you're my least favorite admin ever". When you said that thing about user welcoming... something like that. But I'm not mad anymore. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: Oh, okay then. Please allow me to speak to your points: Occasionally messages must be posted that are stern because it's urgent that the message be understood. (In the case of the message I sent your brother, it was because of the fact that edit summaries can't be changed, and so we have to be careful what we put in them.) I do try, however, never to be insulting, and as I said way back when, I do apologize if he took it that way. Also, I have nothing against young users, and I will happily give assistance to anyone who needs it (just have a look around this talk page). It should be noted that several of our exceptional users, including a sysop, are quite young, relatively speaking. Even though actual age doesn't matter, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a certain level of maturity from our users, once they've had a chance to get the hang of things. The wiki, after all, is not a toy. I think BazookaJoe put it quite well in his message to The thing when he talked about what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:The_thing&oldid=242251 the purpose] of this wiki is. All of this can only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's [[caffeine#Transcript|adopted]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Well this is (not) nice... ==

I'd just like to bring this to your attention: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Homestar_Coder&diff=242152&oldid=242150]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I noticed that. I don't know what that guy's deal is. He is addressing Coder, so I'd prefer she be the one to respond to him. That edit could be called trolling (in the true sense of the word), but it's not vandalism. Until and unless he causes more, bigger trouble, I'ma stay out of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::I was thinking it was more along the lines of harassment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Still, if she wants to block him, she has the power. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Very well I just thought I'd bring that up. Have a good night. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for bringing it up. I'll be keeping an eye on that guy for sure. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::This guy has some kind of anger management problem, and I think not responding to him is the best course of action. I don't even know where he gets this stuff; I've never blocked him (although I did warn him that he might be blocked for mucking up the Sandbox), called him any names (especially not "incredibly gay" - all the people I've known who are actually incredibly gay are far more mature than that guy ;) ), or confused him with Willy on Wheels. If he wants to periodically upchuck on my talk page, whatever. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Apparantly this is all because of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Character_Evolution&diff=next&oldid=175719 this revert]. I'm really confused as to how posting a few images constitutes two to three hours work as well as hating Homestar Coder for reverting it. Additionally, it didn't really fit; those images were all over the place. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought I [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#character evolution|explained reasonably]] that the pictures made the page cluttery; at the time, I was also trying to get that page deleted as I considered it redundant with [[:Category:Character Evolution]]. *shrug* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whoa! ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=243608&oldid=242626 Wow.] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC) (And here I was trying to come up with some cool archive style for mine...)
:It's dot com has archived his talk page? Saddle up my flying pig; I'm goin' ice skating in hell! (But seriously—I'm digging the topical groupings.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. I love that format! Keep on... making-great-stuff! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite impressive. Looks snazzy, and loads alot faster. Now we've just gotta convince [[User talk:Tom|Tom]]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::::This is the greatest thing ever. Would you mind terribly if I bit your style and did a similar thing? :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::With a comment like that, how could I possibly refuse? You are more than welcome to take my coolness and rework it to achieve your own brand of awesomeness. (Never mind all that GFDL nonsense.) :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::YAYZ. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== what happened ==

Hey it's dot com, what happened to your discussion page? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

:well, he archived it. this means that at the top, you can just go to the links and they will lead you to the headlines. pretty cool, huh?

::Yeah, I just couldn't take all the whining from all you guys anymore. ;) But I figured out a compromise between keeping all the talk on this page and moving it all to an archive, so I went with it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::i wasn't whining. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::::I know. But take a look through the archives and you'll find quite a few requests for me to do so, and there were innumerable chat conversations to that effect as well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== i believe... ==
that you are an amazing user. you are just in everything you do. i think it is inspiring how much you care for the betterment of the wiki. you block only the most important users. you recently blocked someone i know. i just want you to know that you are doing the right thing. thank you.
:Is this from [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]? If so, why would you want me to block your brother? You guys must be like my brothers and I are. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::yeah, he hates my guts. and that's why he will never disobey me and come on a website too cool for him again. heheheh....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== I want to be a sysop ==

Do you no wen the next sysop election is gonna be? {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:Depends on several things. Why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::I wanna be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Really? How come? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I want to be a sysop. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Right. You just said that. I'm asking why you want to be a sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Because I want to be able to: Block, Delete, Edit special pages... all the stuff sysops can do. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Why do you want to be able to do all those things? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I can't really explain it but I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, ''try'' to explain. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. Like people that should of been blocked pages that needed deletion plus I want to help the wiki as much as I can. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Who needs to be blocked? Which pages need deletion? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well there gone now but there used to be some. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::What's gone? The people, or the pages? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::If there is a person abusing the Wiki, or a page that doesn't have any need, there are ways of alerting sysops even if you're not one (add abusers to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] and add the "tobedeleted" template to bad pages.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Both are gone but the main reason I want to be a sysop is so I can help the wiki as much a possible. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::It's admirable to want to help the wiki. We need as many people—sysops and users alike—who will do that.     Around here, we consider several factors when choosing whom to make sysops, and the most important consideration is trustworthiness. A close second is participation in the project. Rounding out the top six are the ability to deal with other users (especially in mediating disputes or deciding when to step in), technical know-how, the necessity for another position (that is, whether or not the wiki needs more sysops at any given time), and finally seniority. ([[bottom 10|Number seven]] on the top-six list is [[Senor Cardgage|senority]], which is the ability to make bad H*R-related jokes.)     With those things in mind, at this time I would not be comfortable with making you a sysop. Not long ago, you vandalized this wiki and less than a day ago you were blocked from the fanstuff wiki for persistent trolling. I think it will take a while for people to trust you again after that. Additionally, you currently don't meet the [[User_talk:It%27s_dot_com/Let%27s_Get_Started_on_Doing_All_Those_Awesome_Things_I_Suggested#How_to_become_a_sysop|participation requirements]]. That is, you really don't have that many edits in the main or talk namespace nor have you done a big project. I haven't seen how you handle stress or abuse from problematic users and I don't know the status of your technical know-how (again, because I don't have a large sample of edits from which to judge). Last (and this one matters the least to me but is nevertheless important) there's the question of seniority: In other words, even if all else were equal, quite a few deserving people have been here a lot longer than you, and would thus be ahead of you in line whenever we promote the next user(s).     Please don't think I'm trying to be overly discouraging, but your persistence in asking has made me want to be as unambiguous as possible. (By the way, asking for a position of power—no matter where you are (except maybe Wikipedia)—is a sure way to guarantee that the position will ''not'' be handed to you. Just so you know.) I encourage you to read the link above about the requirements and follow its advice. Over time, perhaps a long time, if you make good contributions and keep your nose clean, then you might be more seriously considered. Until then, keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::Darn --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

To The Thing: Personally, I'd love to be able to do all those things as well, but being given a position of power doesn't come free - [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|You just gotta ''earn'' it!]] And to It's dot com: I found this whole conversation quite amusing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps there should be a page devoting to answering the question "How do I become a sysop?" I see it asked a LOT. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps part of the FAQ? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I really liked your idea, KieferSkunk, and decided to '''be bold''' and add it myself. It's composed mainly from the large paragraph above, but also from the talk section it links to, and my personal knowledge. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::'''It's dot com:''' Yada yada yada sysop yada yada trust yada seniority yada yada yada edits yada yada yada long speech yada yada... 
:::'''The thing:''' Darn 
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. No offense to either of you. I just found that funny.
::::One other thing, Thing: as I'm sure any of the sysops can tell you, it might not be as fun as it looks from the other side of the fence. It means a butteload of ''work'', and a commitment to a certain amount of involvement and responsibilities. It's like the Spiderman thing (you know, "With great power...). (Except it ''doesn't'' come with the ability to swing through Manhattan streets in spandex.) Also, about helping the wiki: yeah, deleting pages and blocking folks help, but it's really only a small percentage of the work that improves the wiki: the bulk of it is regular users editting and reviewing each other's edits. In other words, you ''already'' have the power for the single biggest part of wiki-helping that goes on. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Nevermind I'm a sysop on [http://weirdal.wikicities.com/ My own wiki] now. But it would still be cool to be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

If I may throw in my own perspective on this, "with great power comes great responsibility." From what I've observed, being a sysop means making a lot of tough judgement calls, speaking nicely to people when you'd rather not, getting blamed for just about anything that goes wrong (real or perceived) and a lot of really hard work. Given all that, I'm not really clear on why someone would want that job so much, but I have nothing but admiration for the people who do it. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 01:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== i'm back ==
hey, it's dot com. i just got unblocked this morning. i want to say you did the right thing, and that now i will probably be spending less time on the wiki, so when i get blocked the next time it won't suck so bad. ah well. anyway, like i said, you did the completely right thing, and i hope you become an admin for what you did. thanks.
p.s. if i get blocked another time, please make it indefinite. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:um....[[User: Yeltensic]] just made a rude remark on the guestbook discussion page, and you should check it out. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I am aware of it and have posted comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::good. that was just plain crude. if he pulls some stunt like that again just because [[User: Darth Katana X|Darth Katana X]] told him to, i suggest you block him. look on yeltensic's talk page if you don't know what i am talking about. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 15:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Well I found out about the discussion from Darth, but I didn't "pull some stunt like that" because Darth told me to, he didn't tell me to do that. So leave Darth out of it, he didn't do anything (well maybe he did, but if so it was unrelated). [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 21:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I apoligize. I now understand. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== That image ==

Just so you know, the reason I restored that image for "[[It's like it was meant to be]]" is just because Homestar Coder and Abdi both expressed their support for it and I felt that the person who removed it was acting rather unilaterally. I don't mind its removal as much if there's actually someone else who agrees about removing it, though. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, and Thunderbird has added a different image. Maybe this one will work well? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I don't have a super-strong opinion that page, but the first image just didn't seem to fit, in my opinion. I did have an idea, though (the Wagon Fulla Pancakes). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say the same about not having a super-strong opinion; I just wanted to see things done fairly. (I try not to be too committed to my own ideas around the wiki. I find it only leads to disappointment when your edit gets reverted or your Fun Fact gets crushingly declined in STUFF. Not to mention you get along in the community better if you just go with the flow and be ready to get REVERT'd a few times, eh?) And yeah, I saw your new idea, and I think it's hilarious. "Rondelman, you crack me up! Crack! Me! Up! That's why you're my doge!" Anydangway, talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I added a link to the article cuz i wasn't sure at first which article you were talking about. I definitely like the new pic! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA ==

I wanted to know what you did to get CAPTCHA up and running on 1.5.6. I stopped by the IRC channel & was told to ask you about it. :) On freenode, I am earthsound (registered user). Also, you can reach me at gmail.com (same user name).
Thanks!
:(He and I spoke via the chat channel, and the gist of the discussion was that I was not the author of the software, just an assistant implementor, and I directed him to the software author. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC))

== The ongoing saga ==
um, someone left a message on my talk page stating that it was weird that trendy totebag did not sign on while i was blocked. i know i may be wrong, but i suspect the anonymous user was, well, you know enough to figure it out. the writing, the splling....it's all the same. you probably can't match the ip addresses, but i would like it if you did. or he just didn't leave a sig, and you can check the contribs. thank you. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Um, there's really no mystery, since he was logged in when he made that edit. I have taken care of it. *sigh* — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, you must be tired of our bickering. It seems i am stupid enough to not stop until i get blocked, so i guess i deserved to be. '''ah well.''' {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't mean to rub it in, but EIGHT MINUTES?! Nice, real nice. Eight min. is all it takes to get blocked. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Has Matt? ON WHEELS! ==

Thanks for clearing up all those page moves on my user space. I seriously was actually ''laughing'' the whole time it was happening. I think my userpage had at least 12 "ON WHEELS!" in the page title. My first time being WoW'd. Ever. Well, anyway, thanks a lot! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:No probalo. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow! someone must really like you! Ooo! ooo! Here's an idea (stemming from our basement discussion that should really go there but i'm sure the discussion has been archived): use the Captcha (ok maybe it's not such as hot of an idea now that i see the page move history) for making moves for all users (since we move pages seldom). But i guess these moves ''were'' done manually! Interesting. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I believe the CAPTCHA image is used in move processes for all users. I had to use it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah! you're right! It is! I just saw it when i hit the move button in your pa— *points* LOOK! *Runs away* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== .swf decompiler ==

Where did you find a .swf decompiler? Stuntman021

:I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler] by Eltima. A free download is available (which is the version I have, and it meets my needs pretty well), and the full version looks to have a lot of features. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== G'bye ==
dot, I think I am going to take a break from the wiki. I just wanted you to answer a question of mine: do you ever feel like the wiki ends up affecting more than just the wiki aspect of your life? I mean, Ciberdude's got my IM screenname and my email address, and he won't stop from either. I know you can't help me with this, but I think I have to make myself a little more discreet the next time I come on here. That's why I'm taking a break. Just act like I'm gone for good, okay? I'll be back soon, just not for a while. Thanks for all the privelages. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, giving out personal info can be useful, but it can come back to haunt you sometimes. Take care, man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::I will. And even if you lose your sysop privelages, block ciberdork while I am gone. I'll still edit anonymously. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Seriously, Seriously, you say the weirdest things. Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Seriosuly, Seriously. I mean Seriously. What. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::So, i finally learned to block email addresses, and IM ones too. So.....I guess I'm on the wiki again, and once again I am wildly exaggerating like I always do. Ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== What did you do ==
I would just like to make a counterpoint to hating guestbooks, even though the discussion is over. Have you ever thoguht how much sigs should be deleted? You must have, because if you are going to delete guestbooks like you did, the exact same reasons apply to sigs. People working on their sigs clutters up the recent changes, I know because I do it '''all the time'''. Sigs are not contributing to the wiki, just like you insist guestbooks don't. And finally, They give no proof that someone ever read your userpage, something that by the way is something that people either do or don't but that shouldn't matter to anyone else. I just think that What you and the admins did was entirely opinionated. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:No proof, eh? Well, I guess that someone could read a user page in a matter of seconds and then promptly sign a guestbook. Not all sigs clog recent changes, just yours. Sigs are a means of identifying a user, and thus serve a purpose. I am not meaning to reply for It's dot com, but I just wanted to say this. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::Also, I bet a lot of sig flooding could be stopped if people just used "Show Preview". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: Sigs exist anyway; you edit them in your user preferences (which does not show up on Recentchanges). The custom, however, is to create a User/sig template and use ''that'' as your sig. The User/sig versions are used because:
:::# They're easier to edit.
:::# If you edit one, ''all'' of your signatures change. If you edit the sig in your preferences, only ''future'' signatures change.
::: What's more, custom sigs of any sort allow links to your Talk or Contributions page, and make it easier to tell who's who (if you see a light blue sig with a green "Talk" area, it's probably me. If you see a gold-colored sig with symbols on both sides, it's likely Thunderbird. etc.) I'd take that over not being able to tell if I've previously read a user page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:::And, by the way, it was not the admins' decision to remove them; they may have started the voting, but ''everyone with a user name'' could vote. I abstained voting entirely because I don't really care. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Got it. Reluctantly. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry about re-making those User_talk:Drwho? pages. I wuz trying to mark them delete but you already deleted them. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's okay. Just remember to wait a couple of minutes between postings if you think that might be happening. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Two Questions ==

Hey Dot com, what's up? I have two questions. First, where did you post that discussion where someone was asking how to do links that were not underlined and you tried an example which didn't quite work correctly? (This is indirectly related:) I was wondering if you could take a look at [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|this]] issue. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:See [[#Super-plain_link]]. Note: old how-to questions from my talk page are filed under ''The System Is Down → Technical help''. On your second question, I'm not sure what you're asking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::For the first question, I looked briefly and couldn't find it (actually i scanned the page twice) but couldn't find it. I was scanning too quickly. As for the second issue, it turns out to be a firefox issue :(. Nerd42's sig goes beyond the table borders for some reason. I looked at the sig code and all the tags were closed off. I hope you have a copy of firefox to look at this cuz i'm not gonna provide a screenshot of it right away! ;) I gotta eat! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd post it in a more central place, like the FAQ talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Good idea! Just so you know, I found out another reason why you wouldn't be able to see it: resolution. The problem only happens when you wrap text a certain way. As a result, I have [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects#Strange|posted]] an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects&oldid=255516#Timeline_project update] and a [[:Image:Nerd42sigProblem.png|screenshot]] of the problem, as well as an inquiry in the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#Sig_image_bug|FAQ talk page]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== trolling ==

Just so I can learn the game a little more, how did you know that those last few blocks were Yeltensic, I looked in the user contribs and didn't see much. Teach me OB1, your my only hope :-P {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, often times he makes a remark that identifies him as, in fact, yeltensic. If he didn't do that, then I'll step aside and let dot comster answer this. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at the blcok log, and I have to admit I am confused. He must have matched the IP addresses. Also, there are two new users that are created. How do we know they're not yeltensic? {{User:Seriously/sig}}

:User:18593095NSMC90531234 wasn't trolling. I heard about the NSMC people but mabe this wasn't. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yes he was. I didn't say vandalism, I said trolling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::How? {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::I agree with The thing on this one. Even though he might look like NSMC at first glance, take a look at the article on Uncyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HRWIKI about our wiki]. At the near bottom, it says "If you happen to be new, register with the username: 18593095NSMC90531234 - Trust me, it'll be fun." This is the ''exact same username''. It seems to me that this guy just didn't know anything about NSMC or this wiki and got Punk'd. He wasn't doing anything bad (yet), so why block him because of "trolling"? Although I would suggest that he get a better username. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yea. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::LLok at this '''North Shore Medical Center''' same first letters. {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::::I know exactly where he got the username, and it's the reason I knew what his intentions were. Trolling is the (usually intentional) provocation of a person or community with the aim of getting a negative reaction. Even if he just did it on a lark (which I doubt), he should know better than to blindly follow instructions he came across in a place like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== seriosly ==

i dont think its fair to bann me every tiem I talk to seriously, he is a big user on the wiki and if i am to become a good contributor i will have to stop pretending he doesnt exist. i think i've been banned enough to know not to fight with him.— {{user:Ciberdude444/sig}} 22:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

:<s>I think your mom goes to college is not the person who sent this. But that's just me.</s> {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Troll==
Really bad troll attacking for 2 days at the fanstuff wiki, Joshua says he needs help. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

:What do you mean? I'm not sure that dot comster is a sysop there. If he is, please elaborate. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, he is. [[HRFWiki:User:Riley|Riley]]

:::Seriously: This is the third time ''in a row'' you have replied to messages on my page that weren't addressed to you. And in two of the three times, your reply was either wrong or didn't give any useful information. Please let me have the opportunity to reply to my own messages. Thank you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Riley: What's this guy's deal? Is he Clan or someone who just doesn't like Clan? What course of action would you like me to take? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

It's dot com: Sorry. Just trying to be helpful. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

:Um, he stopped, joshua wanted me to tell you earlier. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

::I enabled some more security that should limit him to one new vandal account at a time, and I scrubbed out some of the filthier usernames. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
Thanks for all the work with Babel! -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Babel ==

I understand why you think that the [[HRWiki:Babel|Babel]] towers will be better with the source code rather than the templates, but I really think that templates will make it a lot easier to use and more user friendly. I understand that there would be a lot, but noinclude tags could be used to keep track of them. Source code is fine, but do you think that I could at least try with Templates, and if it gets too confusing switch back to source code? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:I think we should try with the source code first. It's not too hard to get the hang of. (Besides, it's just copy and paste for most people. ;) ) I don't have a problem with a generic template, but we don't need to create a whole slew of them for a non-mainspace thing such as this. Plus, this way, people won't be limited by just the ones in the templates (although we do ask that they be Homestar Runner (or wiki) related). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== ciberdude444 ==

im not ciberdude, hes my brother, my computer is auto loged on and he used it to post that talk, i didnt say anyhting cause of the warm welcome i had at the wiki compared to my brother's fued and destruction it was better not to connect me with him in any way. — {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 20:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recent block ==
Umm... are you sure that IP you blocked recently is the right guy? Because I checked his contribs and he hasn't done anything vaguely trollish. Except, maybe for editing Tampo's sig and page, but Tampo din't seem to mind, which leads me to believe he ''is'' Tampo. If he's not, he still seems like a fine user. Any reason why you blocked him? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as A fweakin' chair
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Reverted
:*24.77.42.48 has created an account as Christian
:Yep, I'm pretty sure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
You've blocked a troll with the same IP adress as [[User:Tampo|Tampo]]. He is blocked for no reason. [[User:Stongbah|Stongbah]]
:Yea! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
::The IP in question was not blocked for no reason. It was being used (as you can see above) to create multiple accounts in a short amount of time, which were then being used for vandalism. I will unblock the IP for now, but I'll be keeping an eye on it. P.S. The thing: Exactly what was the point of your post? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I have no idea just kinda wanted to be in the conversation. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 20:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

== Arrested Development-apalooza ==
I wanted to make sure you heard about this. Fox is airing the last four episodes back to back on Friday, starting at 8pm. From one fan to another, {{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 23:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, we've already got the party planned! :) It's going to be bittersweet. I don't know whether to hold out hope for Showtime or not. And I wonder how they'll tie up the loose ends while leaving the door open a crack in case they do change networks. Hmm. Thanks for posting! Talk atcha later, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::Such a good show.....It pains me to see it go....{{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

== Admin sigs ==
Why do none of the admins excepy JoeyDay have customized their sigs? I'm thinking maybe you guys are too busy to do that stuff. Just wondering if you knew. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, that's not quite true, unless you have a very narrow definition of admin. If by admin you mean someone on the [[Template:adminteam|Admin Team]], then [[User:Stu|Stu]] definitely has a [[User:Stu/sig|signature]]. If you mean people who are on the Admin Team and are currently active in the day-to-day maintenance of the site, then you're right, only Joey has really customized his signature. Of the six of us, however, only [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] has no customization to speak of. [[User:Tom|Tom]], [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]], and I all have subtle modifications from the standard. If, on the other hand, when you say admins you mean sysops, then there is quite a bit of customization. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] and [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] have had special sigs for as long as I can remember, as have [[User:Jay|Jay]], [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]], [[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]], and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]. [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]'s modification is a slight tweak, and [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] and [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] haven't been here in a while. Even [[User:GrapeNuts|GrapeNuts]] (a bot) has a [[User:GrapeNuts/sig|sig]]. As for the heart of your question: Why do Tom, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]], and I have more or less "plain" signatures? Well, Tom's is like that because he's ornery about such things. BazookaJoe's and mine are like that because it just looks right. Since everyone else goes to such great lengths to customize their signatures, ''not'' doing so becomes a customization in itself. — [[User:It's dot com|''It's dot com'']] 23:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool font. I meant the admin team, without the sysops, By the way. Stu, well I've never actually seen him make an edit. Although I did hear that he was joey's friend. I just think that if you have a sig, you should make it have more convenience, like having a link to your talk page. Thnaks for the answer. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:And Dot com has toyed with his signature in the past [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 8#Towards a more standards-compliant signature|once or twice]], a long while back. That special sig you just made looks pretty cool, if you ever did decide to change it for good. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::GrapeNuts has a sig? Dot com customizing his!? What is the world coming to!? ''This message is {{User:GrapeNuts/sig}} approved (not really, I just wanted an excuse to use his sig :).'' --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Weird. And ''you'', thunderbird, had a blue sig. That scares me. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Um, I just wanted to know what subtle modifications you, Tom, and InterruptorJones have on your sig. Do you mean past versions? Also, what is DrHaggis's slight tweak? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Tom has a nonbreaking space in front of his (and used to have an empty link). I have an em dash. Interruptor Jones has both of those and uses small tags. Dr Haggis's real username is Drhaggis. All of us put the modifications directly in the preferences box, instead of using a sig template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::So you don't have to put an em dash alll the time? That's really cool. I think Ill do that. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:00, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff on the knowledge base ==
By the way, you say I have to delete my caption contest, yet you don't seem to think about the amazing amount of people doing translations on their userpages. Also, you should think about Has Matt?'s page that includes homsar quotes that other people can edit. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I can't realy think of many people who do translations. Even then, the translations themselves are direct quotes and the replies are occurring on the talk pages. The reason I had a problem with your activity is because not only were you inviting people to edit your user page, you were asking them to ''create new H*R-related content'' based on the toons, which is the very definition of fanstuff. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:38, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Ah. I realize that my above comment was a little bit too harsh; I apologize for that. I try to stay nice with users, since most already have a reason to hate my guts (including you). So, yeah. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Er, okaaay.... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, DBK does, after the extremely insolent remark I made on his user page, And you have a reason because of [[User: Ciberdude444|Something I can't mention.]] Also, Firebird has an excuse because I was blocked by him for trolling, and Yeltensic has a reason (although he's not a user anymore) because I was one of the people who asked him to stop most. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::One of the coolest things in this wiki is that everybody generally treats each other with respect and with maturity. Most of the people I know here do their job (be it editing pages, commenting on behavior, or taking action nobody wants to have to take but that needs to be taken) and then move on if need be, and so we try not to harbor little things that may be divisive or in the long run inconsequential. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Recap ==
Can I get a recap (no need to be brief, I have time) of the things that have happened here since the start of December? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:''See [[Talk:Main Page#Recap|Talk:Main Page → Recap]]'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me ==

Heloo there It's dot com, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Cool, man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, keep in mind, Nikolce, that the pizza trophy is superior to the Iron cup of <strike>beef</strike> brunswick stew. This means that that trophy is one of the greatest trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

wow, is there some sort of "lost of tropies or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. Check the [[Hrwiki: Barnstars|Barnstars]] page. There's a lot of trophies you can get. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mirrors and Such ==
Hello, It's dot com. I'm now direction your admin-y attention to [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#HRWiki Mirror|this little discussion]] in the far reaches of the knowledge base. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Tom currently handles all the mirror-type stuff. I would ask him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
::Okay... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes? ==

Hey there dotty, how are these last couple of days. can i ask you something, i've been looking at people user pages, and i've been finding these things called userboxes? what are they?

is there a list of them or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:I might be able to help here. A list is located at [[HRWiki:Userboxes]], as well as directions on how to add them to your page. Let me know if you need any help adding some, if you want to do so. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thunderbird, let me say sorry, about this message. Its because i don't like to order people around, but my user page is a bit of a mess, actually its chaos, please help its urgent. thanks a bunch. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:Nikolce, if you say please, it's perfectly fine. Don't worry about politeness, because it seems you almost unconsciously type in polite ways. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Idea and it's potential ==
Hi. Nikolce Kocovski sent me something on my talk page. It's the newest headline, I think you should check it out. I want to see if you think either his idea or mine would be of any potential. Thanks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== NSMC thing ==
What's the purpose of that page? Also, why'd you delete the talk page for it? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:Also, I'd like to congrat yoyu on the amazing amount of users you've managed to obtain. Truly amazing. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::"Amount of users"? What? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I mean the amount of sockpuppets that NSMC created. You just made a page listing all of the addresses. It looked cool. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, for an explanation of the page, see the section in [[HRWiki:A_History#NSMC|A History]]. I deleted the talk page because it was a user talk page, and therefore comments on it weren't addressed to me but to the vandal. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I find this extremely interesting. Y'know, I was here when NSMC hit. I didn't know how revert it, though, so I just didn't go on the Cheat Commandos section. Of Cuorse, that wasn't enough. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== Paradoxes ==

So which came first? The [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse/Please_leave_this_line_alone chicken], or the [[HRWiki:Introduction|egg]]? ref:[http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/User:Sannse] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure ours was modeled after [[Wikipedia:Template:Please leave this line alone|this]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::I hate it when we're not original. :(. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ahhhh .... hence the similarities. I *now* remember seeing that before a long long time ago, once you showed it to me, even though it looks exactly like the other one... :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool! Where did you find [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=269724&oldid=269553 this one]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I wrote it myself. See the fourth userbox on my user page. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==18,000 views==

Hey, you've got a cool userpage. I agree, Marzipan's answering machine is underrated. {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks, man. Welcome aboard! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::With over 18,000 views, it ''has'' to be good. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::18,000 views?? When did that happen?! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure I trust those counters anyway... The one at the bottom of this talk page currently shows only about 800 views, but surely ''that'' can't be right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've been having a similar situation on my user page. For some ''extremely'' odd reason, it says I have ''28,000'' page views. Seriously, I'm not that popular. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::You were talking to Dot com, not Seriously. {{User:Granola/sig}} 21:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, Granola. That's one of the worst jokes I've heard all day. :P — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Of course, I, being a retard, do not understand that joke a bit. Also, dot com, you might as well delete that thing on the bottom I wrote, cause you asked the smoking monkey to delort it. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, you see, "Seriously" can mean both your username or "in a serious manner". Has Matt? meant that ''in reality'' he is not as popular as 28,000 page views would seem to indicate, but Granola took it to mean that he was addressing you directly. Hilarity ensued. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Or a total lack of hilarity, as it was a crappy joke. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh good, I knew you weren't that popular :P Maybe with all the code fiddling you do, you somehow reversed the number of talk page views with the number of userpage views or something. I've gotta say this has shattered my confidence in those little counter things, before I would have trusted those things with my life. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::And I jumped from 2500 to 6000 in less than 24 hours awhile ago. That can't be right, either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The number is so small because the counter was reset to zero when this page was moved back incorrectly from a vandal. It had to be deleted and recreated, and that's probably what caused the problem. And Heimstern, do you have your preferences set to hold page caches? If you do, that's probably what caused the view count to jump. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 06:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Aw, man! You're probably right, HSRusername. That really bums me out. I would reset my counter, except that I have no idea what to set it to. By the way, as far as I know, I've never messed with anything that would affect those numbers. Maybe they've gone up dramatically because an outside bot is gathering data or something (like for Google). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::At the very least, as of [[User talk:Thunderbird L17/Archive 16#6,000 views!|06:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)]], you had over 6,000 talk page views, and just under 6,000 userpage views. I think it's safe to give yourself at least a 10,000 talk page view head start, as long as you give your userpage a 10,000 view handicap. That should get you somewhat back on track. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Well, I found an archive just before all the hubbub that put the count at 10,071. I added that to the 958 currently showing to get 11,029, and used that figure to reset my counter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

==Autocolumn==

Btw, I wanted to say excellent work on the autocolunm feature. I was looking at the Strong Bad Email tables yesterday, thinking an autocolumn thing would be a nice feature, and lo and behold not two hours later it had been converted. Nice work. (I suppose for colunms such as the ones on my userpage though, it doesn't have any useful application, correct?) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I tried to use it for the ones in my page, but it just screwed things up. Although I did put it on [[The Field]] and [[Strong Badia]] and Has Matt? used it on [[Homestar Talker]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks! Yeah, when the columns are independent lists, they still have to be done the regular way. The autocolumns are for when you have one long list that just needs to be split up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Very nice script, It's dot com. No more tiring counts of items-per-column to make sure each one is equal. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait, what was the difference? I don't see anything new...at least I don't think...{{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== The Smoking Monkey's talk page ==
Why isn't what he did bad to you? Before you say no, let me explain. First of all, he embarassed me ''and'' The thing on his talk page '''on purpose''', second of all, he said apology's to dot com, which means he knew this would have a certain outcome to certain people like me, you (which for some reason you find fine), and the thing. This is a perfect example of premeditated malice. And third of all, would you like it if someone made fun of you on their talk page for everyone to see? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have asked The Smoking Monkey to revert or remove the thread. If you find it insulting, then it is a personal attack, which we don't want. I assure you this was not The Smoking Monkey's intent, but that is beside the point. Let me take this opportunity, however, to suggest that learning to laugh at one's self is one of the most difficult yet rewarding things a person can do. In addition, I think you should ''stop'' apologizing and ''start'' adding more content to this site. Whenever I click on your contribs, I notice that over the last week your user talk contribs outnumber your main namespace contribs 7 to 1. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::yes. I understand. Also, I've been adding to the wooky (a major overhaul of the site just because I feel sorry for it), so I havn't had much of a chance. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Finding vandalism ==

Hey, just wanted to flag a sysop. [[other days]] was mildly vandalized. I fixed it but figured you might want to know about it. Feel free to delete this from your talk if you want. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Simple nuisance vandalism can just be fixed and then ignored. The best way to let us know about more serious vandalism is to post it on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]. Then we'll get it taken care of. Thanks for reverting that page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== The thing ==
Now that he's unblocked, I'm thinking you can put that template for his block reason on his talk page. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== Did I just miss that? ==

Did I miss something or is this just deja vu? I *just* noticed that the order of the "diff" and "hist" buttons are out of order from the other wiki's. In wikipedia, they are before the page title, here they are after the page title. How long has it been like that, and was that part of your recent tinkerings? Confused in Connecticut. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:You live in connecticut? Bodacious in Buffalo {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::I don't see what you're saying at all. Whistlin' in Washington, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You sure? On the Bonus Stage Wiki, they also go (diff)(hist), so... I dunno. Not Doing A Name Thingy Like The Rest Of You in Pennsylvania. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I think what he meant, although I don't see it, is that he thinks that it was "{page title} (diff)(hist)" here. Lazing Around in Lynnwood, {{User:Jay/sig}} 22:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Hm. Odd. I see it the other way around. I mean, the correct way. Maybe Stux's internet is just going spastic. Not telling anyone my location, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's a certain bug in the mediawiki 1.5 software, there were many other ones. {{User: Seriously/sig}}
::::::OT: Jay? Lynn would wash? Silly in Sammamish, {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::How very Strong Bad-ish of you. :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Wait, did anyone else just realizing us having this discussion that is getting off-topic on another user's talk page that isn't even responding? Confused in Crapland, {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 22:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, I'm thinking it's either a bug in the software, or a bug in Stux's compy. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I doubt that it's a bug in my compy since my watchlist is getting the code from the server as it's all server-generated. I know I have the "enhanced" recent changes turned on (I turned it off for a moment and it indeed showed it the other way, with (diff)(hist) first. But this must've been deja vu, cuz of that. Cuz I've had it "enhanced" for the longest time. So I dunno. I probably need sleep. As for my domicile: I actually don't live in Connecticut, nor have I ever even been in the state (sadly). I just picked the two words cuz they made good alliteration! (And I was surprised to be able to spell the state's name right.) I didn't think people would assume I lived in Connecticut. In fact I am Mindless in Michigan. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Mindless south of Montreal, Bamboozled west of Boston, Really Confused north of Rio, Dazed east of Dallas. {{User:Granola/sig}} 19:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==
The thing has recently vandalized a wiki. Check Benol's talk page for info. I suggest you block him, as per your rule posted on the main page. Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry I <big>LOVE</big> this wiki the trolling was my evil cousin! Plus it wasn't this wiki. I swear I'm crying right now. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::You should have thought about that '''BEFORE''' You trolled!!!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Please I'm really sorry! That was my evil cousin! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm crying harder than I ever have before! :'-( --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm sorry. Nothing we can do. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Please I '''LOVE''' this wiki! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You probably won't be ''Permanently'' blocked.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I'm to sorry to even say it in words! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Look, you guys. I'm pretty sure all this trolling went on before Dot com posted that message on the Main Page talk. Besides, he's now trying ''extremely'' hard to clean up the mess he's made, so he obviously knows what he did is wrong. Therefore, will a block ''really'' do anything to help this situation? I think not. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 17:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Do u see how hard I'm trying to get rid of the vandalizm! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ok guys, The thing has more than repented for that vandalism. Seriously, I suggest that you keep your nose out of matters that do not involve you. The thing is currently reverting the vandalism with extreme diligence, and this situation is misunderstood by both Benol and Seriously. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::It wasn't that I was not minding my own business, but I saw many changes to Benol's talk page on the recent changes and decided to see what was up about it. I only meant to help, and I'm sorry if I failed to do so. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I wasn't party to this at all, so I don't really know what happened in this particular case. But I will say this: I said once before that I thought the ops here were being too lenient on The Thing, as he's had a history of vandalism and trolling in the past, and everyone seems to be very quick to defend him. (Lots of "I'm sorry's" and "I won't do it again!'s".) I don't deny he's also made good edits here, but I have not seen discipline executed equally to him as has been to others who've done similar things, or less. That's kinda frustrating to see. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

You all need to complain to your teachers for not teaching you how to read. While you're at it, Seriously and The thing, go ahead and post a mailing address where I can send a bill to your parents for babysitting you. On the main page talk, I said that anyone caught vandalizing in our name would be dealt with. I have neither the time nor the resources to try and police other wikis. The message regarding other wikis means that if you vandalize Uncyclopedia, for example, ''in retaliation'' for something that happens here, then at that point you are speaking for ''all'' of us here, and I care very much that you don't do that. But random vandalism doesn't concern me. To The thing: I can't believe that you think vandalism is funny, especially given that you're an administrator at a wiki. To Seriously: you need to learn what is and what isn't important, and stop being such a tattletale. And stop speaking for me. In one place you say "No matter what, you must get blocked." You have neither the authority nor the experience to be making claims like that. To KieferSkunk: The thing didn't actually do anything (in this case) to harm our wiki or its good name, and therefore there are no grounds for blocking him. (And he ''has'' been blocked recently by BazookaJoe for spamming.) To anyone who needs to hear this: Stop vandalizing. Stop behaving so immaturely (and don't blame your actions on your age; I know several young good contributors). Wiki usage is not a right; it's a privilege. And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing. You've said you're sorry so much that the words have no meaning. Let your future actions be your apology. That's all for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:In reply to your comment to me: I understand, and I'm not asking for him to be blocked in this case. I was making a more general comment about The Thing's history, seeing as how I have witnessed vandalism from him in the past and saw people, even sysops, defending him and going way out of their way to reason with him, rather than treating him as a vandal. I didn't understand it at the time, and I still don't, so I left my comments on the matter at "I think you're being too lenient with him". This was mainly just a follow-up on that, more to mention that I'm not surprised another "incident" has come up than anything else. That's all. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::Well, unless an account is being used for nothing but vandalism, then [[HRWiki:Blocking_Policy#Vandalism|reasoning should always be exhausted]] before blocking is implemented. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Just who do you think you are? ''Babysitting''? Y'know, it's not like I've ever done anything mean to you. Yes, I spoke for you. Just trying to help and to see it in the eyes of an admin. Yes, I've answered your talk page questions for you with crappy answers. Again, jsut trying to help. These things don't mean you have to insult me like that. Y'know, I've really never done anything bad to you on purpose. I always had great respect for you, and I've never purposely insulted you like you just did. You need to learn how a simple misinterpretation of a comment on the main page talk should'nt be an excuse for acting like that. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::When I vandalized I thought you were suppose to vandalize there. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::To Seriously: As one who has been an admin several times in other places, one thing I can say with certainty is that many admins feel very put off and are easily annoyed by non-admins (and especially relatively new people) trying to speak for them. Dictating policy to other users on behalf of the admins is usually a no-no unless you are an admin or are trusted by the admins to do so. (Obviously, I can't speak for It's dot com, but if I were in his place dealing with this crap, that's how I'd feel.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::And if you haven't figured it out by now who I am, Seriously, then you've got deeper problems than I can fix in one afternoon. To The thing: whatever, man. To KieferSkunk: Hear, hear. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Okay. Here it goes, time for me to swallow my pride:

Look, Dot com, I just don't want to be treated like a baby. In my opinion, I think being a tattletale is the wrong was to think about it, I prefer "fighting trolls, and trying to help you with your rule". Yes, I was disrespectful to you. I just needed to prove my point and express my anger at you. Also, I know you are an admin. Maybe I ''was'' a bit overboard with you; that doesn't mean what I said was entirely wrong. I mean, I apologize, but it's not like I'll kiss your ring and beg for forgiveness. I've got to be a bit more defiant than that to ever prove my point. Just remember: I've always, ''always'' tried to help you, and I just found your comment a bit mean. Just forgive me, please, and let this whole thing disappear. Thanks a lot. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:Seriously, have you been reading this thread and understanding it? It's dot com has stated just 8 posts up: "And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing." You are still relatively new to this wiki, and your experience has been limited to editing User and User talk pages. You said yourself you give "crappy answers" to questions that don't concern you. When I first joined, I watched conversations like this unfold and saw how responsible admins reacted. I didn't try to solve everybody's problems; I knew I didn't have the knowledge. Just keep to yourself for a while and maybe see what it's like to make some main namespace contrubutions. (That is the idea of a wiki, you know.) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 00:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Check this out: ==

Ok, so check out the current [[:Category:To_be_deleted|delete category]]. See something strange? The "Timeline" article is listed under the U's! Even though the tobedeleted tag uses the <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> tag. Strange, no? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who ==

HOW DOES HE KEEP COMING BACK! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:Hey man, I want you to know that Dr. Who vandalized your talk page. Could you block his IP for me? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::First of all, this is nothing to get excited about. He's a garden-variety vandal, nothing more, and he comes back because (a) he apparently doesn't have anything constructive to do and (b) he has access to a dynamic IP. Second, yes, I'm aware that he vandalized this page. Third, I already blocked him before you posted your message. Fourth, please list future vandals on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], not this page. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Also, he never does much damage, besides vulgar content and stuff like that. What's weird, though, is how he always manages to come when there's no sysops around. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You know what I hate? When this guy writes vulgar edit summaries. For people who patrol recent changes, especially kids, we don't have to see that. Really. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yea. I'm 10 he on my page said This user is fulla ****. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ugh. At least NSMC was was just racist. This guy swears like nobody's business. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::He can go to jail for this. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I doubt that severely... Though one can always wish... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::To this point: would it be possible to introduce a language filter? The rare times a swear is needed (an interview transcript, for example) a sysop can override. ?? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Probably impossible. That would interfere with this wiki, though, because the cartoon says crap all the time, among other things. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::We could allow the program to accept crap. Still, there are a lot of other issues... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's definitely possible, but currently it's not worth the effort it would take to install it. As for "crap", we just wouldn't put that word on the bad list. Finally, I would appreciate it if comments that aren't actually directed to me be posted in a more public place: [[Talk:Main Page]], [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]], or [[HRWiki:Da Basement]], to name a few. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::OK. Although I think that everyone comes to you because you are the central hub of the wiki, pretty much. Everyone comes to you in hardships, whcih if I were you, I would be honored with. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Oh, I know, and don't think I'm not honored, but I, like most people, don't like new-message false alarms, and would rather talk about projects I'm currently working on. Also, there are a lot of questions that anyone could more easily answer if they were just put in a more public place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Flashforward ==

I'm still at the conference, it was really great. IRC doesn't work on the terminals, but suffice it to say, I was here, got autographs, (not many questions) and it was really great. I'll try and get a writeup on Wednesday evening. --TBird

:That was not Tbird. Look [here]. The editor's IP starts with a 6. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thunderbird is not at home, so the IP address would be different. It could still be him, but I would like him to log in if possible. If he can't log in at the convention, he'll figure something out or log in when he gets home later tonight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Too late. His IP's been blocked. He'll log in when he needs to, but I have one question: If he was TBird, why did he sign TBird instead of his IP (accidentally typed <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> without knowing he wasn't logged in) or with his sig (or siggie, I guess)? It doesn't seem right. I mean, if he can edit annonymously, he can edit logged on, and I think the first thing he'll ask if he can't log in is why he can't. Plus, he would know that an IP editing as a user would most likely be reverted. We could unblock the IP and see if TBird can log on now, I guess. Wouldn't hurt, but I still think it wasn't him. I dunno. Oh, also, if it was him, sorry, just don't want anybody impersonating you. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::We didn't block the IP. There are several reasons why he might not have been able to log in (if the computer he was using didn't accept cookies, for example). I think the edits by the IP match TBird's style, but I'm being cautious for now. I'm patient; if I have to I can wait for him to get home to confirm. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ye of little faith :-P You didn't recognize my unique writing style? I just didn't really feel like logging in for one or two edits. I probably should have, but meh. In any case, all I said was true, and more. I left a message on the IRC with Phlip, but it should still be there if you scroll up, to see a brief summary of the event. I'll get a writeup started tomorrow night. For now, I've gotta be up in five and a half hours for work, so I'm going to bed. '''EDIT:''' Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention on IRC. Let's just say I'll be kicking myself for months for not bringing my DS to Flashforward... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 09:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought it was you (see above where I say it sounds like your style), but the info was too good, so I thought it was best to wait for confirmation. I guess you'll log in from now on. :-P Actually, the only reason I had any question was because the IP you were using came up as being based in ''Chicago'', which was pretty weird. I admit it would have been quite unlikely for someone to be imitating you, but we've been burned before. Anyways, great jaerb!!! Many combolations on your successful mission!! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Parse error! ==

In HomsarQuote.php. You sure are good at bringing the Wiki to its knees ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I always seem to forget semicolons at the end of lines. And it never fails that someone notices my mistakes, even when they're there for less than a minute. :P — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ah, missing semicolons, the bane of a programmer's existence. (Unless you're coding in Lisp. Then it's missing parens.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I used to do C++ so remember the semi-colon plight, now I do mostly webdesign and so am plagued to make sure I have the same number of <nowiki><div>'s and </div>'s</nowiki>. If I don't comment every single one I'm lost. My lastest creation is [http://www.odua.org this] It's mostly done although I can't seem to get things to line-up the way I want and no matter what changes that I make, it will only look right on one browser at a time! Grrrrr. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== You are s-smart ==

Brilliant random Homsar quote thingy!

You're pretty good at this, obviously. Take a look at [[Talk:Sound Effects#Ogg? why not mp3?|this discussion]] and my idea at the end - would this be something possible to improve usability? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I guess you're gonna have to s-spell out what your idea is, because I'm not quite s-seeing it. S-sorry if that cancels out the s-smart. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::The ogg files. They confuse people, many players in use don't use them right out of then box. But Wikipedia has an interesting solution which we might be able to emulate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I should have been more s-specific. What I meant was, when I went to the page about the s-symphony, I wasn't s-sure what their s-solution was. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::In the 1st paragraph, there's the Listen link (after the musical example) - there's a (listen (help·info)) thingy. The "Help" goes to instructions on how to get your player to play oggs. I mean, I was stymied by them until I was researchiong (on that page, actually) and stumbled upon that.

::::Of course, I don't know enough about Wiki to know a) if this can be done on our system, 2) how to do it even if it can be done, and III) if this sort of a thing would require "discussion" "someplace". SO that's why I ask you, Mr. S-smart. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Just copy the source code of [[Wikipedia:Template:Audio]] to [[Template:Audio]] (or something like that), adjust the help link to the media help page on this Wiki, and it should work fine (apart from maybe the speaker icon). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's that easy, eh? :\ Well, it'd take me a few days to figure all that out! (I spent a good part of today trying, haven't gotten far. Will keep trying.) But if someone who already has all that figured out wants to take up the cause, we could have better usability sooner. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== Talk page rate ==
These days, I've been trying to make more main namespace contribs and less user talk page contribs. The question is, has my diet (sorta) done any good for me? Check my contribs. On a rate of 1 to 10, how much would you say I've improved? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 04:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:Er, maybe we should give it a little more time before making a 1 to 10 rating. I say that because in the last three days, you have made more user edits than and ''twice'' as many user talk edits as all your main, main talk, HRWiki, and HRWiki talk edits ''combined'' (not counting sandbox). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gulp. Back to work on the random refreshings. :( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I just did like fifteen. Sweet. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you've been doin' a LOT of edits, Seriously. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Um, sorry about those things on tyhe videlectrix games. You're gonna be doing that for a long time. :( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, you're fine. I've always been bugged by the word "exist" on those pages. How can we say that the games don't exist? I can see a screenshot right next to them! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, that's true. At least I added some good edits to my reh—zoom. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

==WikiTroll==

OK then, I'll stop, but why don't you want me editing that page? {{User:Granola/sig}} 02:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:Because it's fine the way it is, and you really don't need to be editing meta-information about yourself. Besides, as you said on the talk page, that record isn't even that important anyway. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Fair enough. I just wanted it to be accurate, even though it isn't necessary in the first place. {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

==Granola==

Why did you delete my old userpage? {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:That is not your user page. If you continue to claim that name, I will treat you as though it was still your username (i.e. I will go back to blocking you). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::OK...I just thought it would be useful to redirect it, so that people who went looking for it would come to the right place...<strike>can at least have the talkpage redirect? People have been known to still post on the old one, and I think it's useful to redirect that one, so that posts won't lie around unanswered for a long time.</strike> {{User:Granola/sig}} 07:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::Never mind about the talkpage, I logged in as Yeltensic, went into my preferences, and enabled the notification e-mail in case the old talkpage is edited, so it's covered now. {{User:Granola/sig}} 08:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::You've said that I can't have "Yeltensic" as my sig, as I did for a while, or have "I'm Yelt" in parentheses; would it be OK if I included in my sig a link to my Wikipedia userpage, without the word "Yeltensic" visibly included, in this way: [[Wikipedia:User:Yeltensic42|With crap]], '''[[User:Granola|Granola]]''' '''([[User talk:Granola|T]]''' '''•''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Granola| C]])'''? I won't change it until you approve that suggestion (if you do). {{User:Granola/sig}} 03:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I see that you have a mention of it on your user page as well as a userbox linking to Wikipedia. Those are both fine with me. (By the way, just thought I'd point out that (H*R/wiki-related) userboxes are allowed here.) But I don't think it's appropriate for your sig at this time. You need to stop focusing on your old name and work on making a new, better name for yourself here. Crapfully crappy, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::That sounds reas-ON-able. I'm pretty attached to the name Yeltensic, since I've been using it for quite some time before HRWiki, but it ''is'' my fault that the name is tainted here. Oh well. {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Cheddarlebbon ==
I hate to butt in with that conversation, especially because I've been under fire for that recently, but I am sure that IP address is not him. Cheddarlebbon does not type in caps, for example. He also has several spelling errors in his sentences. I'm just putting this up, because I want to make sure he does not get the password. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for your concern. Don't worry though: Per our policy, I will not be resetting the account without some kind of proof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
::<s>grood</s>Good. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== My Userbox ==

Hey! Jerk! Why don't you stay offa my userpage and let me make my own userbox there! I didn't put it on the userbox list! It was isolated to my page! I really don't know what your deal is, but you need to get over it if it upset you that much. Maybe I should edit your page without asking you, huh? I think I can safely say that I was following the guidelines for my personal image. Now If you'll excuse me, I'm going to put it back up. No thank you very much, {{User:Republic of Stan/sig}}
:''This discussion was originally continued at <nowiki>[[</nowiki>User talk:Republic of Stan → Userboxes]]. I had originally suspected him of being a sockpuppet of Drwho?, and that turned out to be correct.''

== Most of it? ==

Query: Why do you only own "most of" the figurine set 1? Don't use that old excuse of "oh, my dog ate Marzipan!" :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:My friend gave me them for Christmas... except he apparently gave some of them to his brothers first. Hmm... Well, he did at least assure me that I got the best ones of the bunch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Oookay. Which ones didn't you get? (Looks up at all fourteen Homestar Runner figures - from both sets - currently sitting above his computer.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::: Oh, I knew you would ask that, but I'm really comfy here on the couch right now. :) I know for sure I have Homestar and Strong Bad, and Pom Pom I think. I don't have The Cheat or the KOT. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:15, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::: KoT was the second set anyway. Sucks you wouldn't get The Cheat, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Aren't you supposed to get those free when you buy stuff? Don't you have like every single DVD and CD ever. Like ever. Ok so at least all the H*R related ones...--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, I got these ''years'' ago, back when you didn't get them free with everything. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== Blocking durations ==

As a senior sysop and an admin here, if we are being trolled by someone, for how long he or she should be blocked. I know that known trolls like NSMC, Dr. Who and others are blocked forever, but what about small calibar trolls? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's pretty much a judgment call in almost all cases. For IP addresses, 1 to 3 days, depending on the severity of the vandalism. For ''really'' bad stuff, a week or so. If a vandal is obviously changing IPs within a narrow range, blocking the range X.X.X.0/24 (or 23) usually works. Users who make useful contributions should be reasoned with first if possible, not blocked. Accounts created for no purpose other than to vandalize should be blocked infinitely. Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you very much. It sure will help! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

== New sysops ==

Was there a sysop nomination? If so, I'm surprised that Lapper wasn't one. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
:''Anyone'' who had made any edit since around the beginning of February was considered. Of the ones we took, they were each chosen not only because they are deserving but also to fill certain niches. As we say, we will add new sysops as our circumstances warrant, and this time circumstances warranted the number and specific users that we took. I can name a half dozen other users who will someday make excellent sysops, and anyone who was not chosen this time should ''not'' read into it negatively in any way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
::When I posted the above, I couldn't say what I can say now: We were still considering some people, and some people simply don't check their email often enough! (Or they don't make their primary email available to the wiki, which is pretty much the same thing.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, It's dot com, I see you having a lot of new sysops. Does that mean there won't be any new sysops for a while? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:29, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, I believe the seven new sysops that we have just inducted are it for a while. We've always got our eyes open, though. Remember also that ''all'' users can be important users. I did some of my best stuff (including STUFF) before I was promoted. (It's kinda funny too... what a lot of people don't realize is that sysop = more headaches.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::So like how long? Because I signed on on Feb. 24th. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
:::It would be impossible to guess at this time, as there are just [[HRWiki:FAQ#How_do_I_become_an_admin_or_sysop.3F|too many factors]] that go into it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I missed something - is there a page that lists the new sysops? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:[[Special:Listusers/sysop]] or [[HRWiki:A History#Later additions]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
::Gotcha, thanks. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

== User groups ==
I have a question: I know what a sysop does, and I know what a beaurucrat does, but what do you get to do as a developer that nobody else can? I'm just wondering what it means it have the promotion. Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
:For those of you following along at home, I was technically made a bureaucrat and a developer on the same day. The only reason I wasn't added to the developer group in the wiki software is because there's a subtle difference between being a developer and being in the developer group. At the time I was made a developer, the wiki developer group was inactive. Since then, we reenabled it, and when we did, I was put in the group, even though for practical purposes I was already in it. Make sense? Okay, now that we have that out of the way: Bureaucrats can assign and unassign users to groups (usually to make sysops), and can also rename users. People in the developer group can lock and unlock the database. That originally was the only function available, but since then I have extended it somewhat using my developer abilities. And here's the distinction: a developer has direct access to the server and database. They can see server logs, view raw database data, and modify system software (to improve upon it). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
::And is there anything special about Joey Day's "proprietor" group? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::No, it was created for purely narcissistic purposes (Joey's words, not mine). -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

:::: This is true. There is nothing special about the [[Special:Listusers/proprietor|proprietor]] user group. I'm not usually one to be so narcissistic, but I thought it made some sense, and I did it mostly because I could. We've never been able to create custom user groups before MediaWiki 1.5, or I might've created a proprietor group a long time ago. Actually, in a way this is the opposite of narcissistic, as it allows for the possibility of others having proprietorship at some time in the future, and adds a layer of abstraction between myself and the title of proprietor. In the past, we've always linked directly to my user page in places where we mention the proprietor, but we should change all those places to link to the proprietor list. I'll get right on that. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 23:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== Dr. Who Never Strikes Again ==

Ok. I've got to admit, somewhat grudgingly, that you caught me earlier. I AM in fact Dr. Who. But I really wasn't planning on using this account for vandalism. Yesterday after I attacked the fanstuff wiki I saw that I had hurt someone's feelings and I felt terrible when it put a personal face on what I'd done. I'm ready and willing to talk to you about why and how I did all of that trolling if you just give me this chance. Of course, I would understand if you banned me right away, but I'm asking you to give it a try. Sincerely, [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]
:I can't speak for all the other sysops, but I won't ban you if you're willing to talk civilly. The whole reason I posted on your talk page was to find out about you and talk to you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
::Ok then, here goes. I believe the first trolling I ever did was under the name "you smell", where I added that phrase several times to the [[Characters]] page. I decided that it was funny that someone coming to learn would see that (yes, I know, very immature and stupid of me). That was the full extent that I knew of what I was doing. I later learned of the concept of wiki vandalism from Uncyclopedia. I have been using this wiki for years without knowing exactly how maintenance worked; when I did I became jealous of the sysops. I wished to make a name for myself here without doing years of work (rather like WoW, I was trying to gain infamy). My attacks became somewhat meaner as I went on, and I attacked users when I got tired of simply tampering with content. I started thinking of ways to justify it to myself, such as that injustice was being done to me over userboxes, or that my name alone had gotten me banned. I guess I saw it as a way to "break loose" because I am normally NOT a rude or confrontational person. I just stopped for two reasons: I was ashamed of myself, and I was inspired by the way [[User:Granola|Yeltensic]] had turned himself around. In any case, I am deeply sorry. The least I can do is tell you how I did the vandalism so that you can better protect against anything that might happen in the future.
::I used two dynamic IP's: Safari and AOL. Aol has a set of three or four dynamic IP's that change within a narrow range from page to page. Safari's IP changes once every day, but it usually retains the first two segments (75.123.12.32, 75.123.32.34.... and so on). I opened numerous windows at once and typed in my edits and (sigh) summeries. This way the vandalism was at a high speed. I hope at least me telling you this helps (or rather, that you won't need it). [[User:Taco Salad of My Dreams|Taco Salad of My Dreams]]
:::I am willing to give you a chance. Several of your latest incarnations have actually showed some promise, and I hope you can build on that. Once again, I can't speak for all users and sysops, but in general we're a pretty forgiving bunch. I caution you that you will have to prove yourself (assuming others also give you a chance), and our collective patience with you might not be what it would be for a normal new user.
:::Thanks for the technical info (although I did already know that, by the way; that's how I was able to post on your talk page before you'd even made any real edits). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Greetings Dotty, how are you. I havn't spoken with you in a while. how have you been these couple of weeks? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
:Uhh Dotty, where are you, are you busy or something? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::Hello, Nikolce. I'm fine, and I hope you're well. Yeah, life can be kind of hectic sometimes. But we gotta keep on tranglin'! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== SPONGE 001 ==

Who is your favorite H*R character?[[User:SPONGE 001|SPONGE 001]] 19:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== Documentary ==
Thanks for that page move. As I saw the whole thing unfold on Recent changes, I thought "what the heck is he doing"? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:No problem. Hey, do me a favor: Instead of pressing [edit] over on the right to start a new topic, please press the [ + ] (plus) button at the top of the page (in between the main edit button and the history button). (Or, at the very least, please clear the old subheading from the edit summary.) Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I always wondered what that button did. Cool, I'll try hard to remember to. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== New special page ==

I've been seeing a lot of pages with the name Test being deleted, along with images. May I ask what going on? {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

:We're testing something. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

::What I meant was what are you testing. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 11:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

:::It's a special page that has to do with [[Special:Personalimages|image management]]. <s>It's not ready yet,</s> but when it is, it will be linked from an HRWiki page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
::::That's really, really cool. I've been waiting for something like that... A way to see who owns what image(s) quickly. This should certainly be helpful in managing 'em, eh? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Indeed. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

==H*bad==

I would like to request to have my user name changed from H*bad to something else, at the fanstuff wiki, how do I do that?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 03:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

:If the name of our [[HRWiki:Changing username|changing username]] page is any indication, I estimate it would be at [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Changing username|HRFWiki:Changing username]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

== IP Checking ==

There's been a fair amount of debate about accounts that seem to be all created by H*bad. Since we lack any ability to check for IP addresses, would you be able to see if the following accounts share the same IP?: [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad|H*bad]], [[HRFWiki:User:H*bad1|H*bad1]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar Runner|Darth Homestar Runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Darth Homestar runner|Darth Homestar runner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Guyforerunner|Guyforerunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Godzillarunner|Godzillarunner]], [[HRFWiki:User:Homestarrunner101|Homestarrunner101]], [[HRFWiki:User:Running along|Running along]]. Any info you could get would be much combobulated. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:They're the same (except I'm not sure about Guyforerunner). See also [[User_talk:Tom#Emergency|this discussion]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::What in the world. My friend created H*bad1 at my house. Thats why he has the same IP address as mine, I believe. He called me up and told me that you guys are like people who want to put salt in an open wound. Why you do this to him? I will keep on fighting this little thing about H*bad1. I explained all of this cwap at [[HRFWiki:My dark side|My dark side]]--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 05:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Um... yeah. Okay. First of all, don't let people make accounts using your computer, and if you do, have them choose a different name from you. (That still doesn't explain all the other names, by the way.) But I don't really want to get into it here, as it has been discussed on other pages, like you point out. Super Sam simply asked me whether the IPs matched and I answered him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Extensions ==

Cool, two headings in a row. Alrighty, I have two things to talk about. One - would you be able to post your source code for the extensions you wrote somewhere, such as [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mediawiki_Extensions here]? Two - do you know how to add a tab from within an extension? I figured out how to do it by editing SkinTemplate.php, but is there any way to have the same effect through an extension? (I'm trying to add a purge tab next to watch/unwatch). - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:I do plan to publish the extensions I have written. They need a bit of polishing, standardizing, and commenting before I would post them in a public place, however. As for the tab thing, I'm guessing you want more of an add-on file rather than a patch in the original file? I'm not currently familiar enough with how the tabs are generated to be able to give you a good answer to that one, but I would be surprised if it could be done with a standalone extension. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
::Alrighty, thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:42, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Here's a little way to add a purge button using [[User:Super Sam/monobook.js|your monobook.js]] that I came up with and Dot com fixed to actually work properly:
<pre>//Add purge cache button
function addPurgeButton()
{
var href = document.location.href;
{
var historyHref = document.getElementById( "ca-history" ).firstChild.href;
var div = document.getElementById( "p-cactions" );
var ul = div.getElementsByTagName( "ul" )[0];
var newLi = document.createElement( "li" );
var newA = document.createElement( "a" );
newA.setAttribute( "href" , historyHref.replace( "=history" , "=purge" ) );
var text = document.createTextNode( "Purge" );
newA.appendChild( text );
newLi.appendChild( newA );
ul.appendChild( newLi );
}
}
if ( window.addEventListener ) window.addEventListener( "load" , addPurgeButton , false );
else if ( window.attachEvent ) window.attachEvent( "onload", addPurgeButton );</pre>
:::Let us know how that works. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== Dr.... Who? ==

Who was Dr. Who? why did he/she get kicked off so many times? I am asking this because as I travel around this Wiki I saw alot about Dr. Who. Just curious, {{User:Grit7/sig}}
:See [[#Dr. Who Never Strikes Again]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

== Captcha on move page ==

I'd like to ask you a question, and if it's been asked before, I'm very sorry. I'd just like to ask what the purpose of applying a CAPTCHA to the Move Page over on the Fanstuff Wiki is. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's to prevent a bot from being able to move pages as vandalism, and to discourage human vandals from doing the same. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::If that's the case, why isn't it the same here? If I recall correctly (which is unlikely), this knowledge base has had more page-move vandalism than the Fanstuff. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Er... It ''is'' the same here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. I must be out of date then. Never mind. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 00:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's not. Well, at least, it's not for me with my almighty sysoply privilages. Is it like that for ordinary users? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, it is. I had to use it until a couple weeks ago when I was sysopped. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh. Huh. I didn't even realize. That puts WoW in a whole new light of non-life. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

== Grizzly Chomps ==

Hi It's dot com,

I had a question, and I'm not sure where else to put it. Can you explain why you didn't you think my "Grizzly chomps" fun fact in the Candy Product was a good one? I may be biased, but I think it applies pretty well. TBC have been known to reference old and obscure pop-culture items in the past, and I can't think of any other "pre-bitten" candy product sold in stores. I'd like to think they had this product in mind when they made the toon. You can even Google for it and read up on it.

Anyhow, I just wanted to know what my options were for debating this fact. Is this is something I could put in STUFF for debate? And if so, how?

The submission was:
*The "built-in bite" shape of SBLOUNSKCHED! may refer to Grizzly Chomps, a [[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]]-brand treat introduced in 1992. The package included two chocolate cupcakes with a bite-mark shape cut out of them, and the package bore a cartoon bear saying, "I start 'em, you finish 'em."

:I removed it because the Grizzly Chomps are so old and obscure that any similarity to SBLOUNSKCHED is likely just a coincidence. None of the secondary details match, especially the reason for the bite. In the case of Grizzly Chomps, the bear helps you eat it for some reason, but Strong Bad calls the bite in his candy a security measure to deter others from eating it. I think that TBC independently thought it was funny to have a bite missing from the candy, and to suggest otherwise is too much speculation for my taste.
:    That said, I am more than willing to help you set up a STUFF item. The relevant instructions are at [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newfact]]. You need to start at "2. The STUFF subpage". Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::I went ahead and STUFF'd it for you. You can have the next one. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks! I appreciate that. [[User:Compdude|Compdude]]

== Another recent block ==

Looking at the [[Special:Ipblocklist|Block list]], I saw that you banned User:Fire Man. Are you sure you've got the right guy? Looking at [[Special:Contributions/Fire Man|his contribs]] he only made one edit and it wasn't anything bad. He seems like a perfectly fine user. I think he's innocent so you should unblock him. Any reason why you blocked him in the first place? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:You are correct about the number and type of contribs for that account. I am unblocking it on a provisional basis. I remind whoever needs to hear it that vandalism and flagrant abuse of the wiki's policies will not be tolerated. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== The Clamburger ==

Could you please mark [[HRFWiki:User:Clamburger|Clamburger]] as a bot on the fanstuff? It's really cluttering Recent Changes. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 13:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Why are you asking ''me'' when [[User:Tom|Tom]] has [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 4#The Clamburger Bot|already given you an answer]] on this one? If you want to appeal, you'll have to take it up with him. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Extensions ==

Can you please put the autocolumn and random Homsar quote extensions onto the Fanstuff? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== Declaring War ==

Isn't there a rule against declaring war? Isn't that anti-Wiki? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think anyone's ever enumerated a list here that specifically included "do not declare war," but I can say for sure that it's a very [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=It%27s+dot+com&page=User%3AHeadbad+and+strongbody bad idea]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&curid=18299&diff=295049&oldid=295009&rcid=242036 Indeed]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::: *sigh* Yeah, that. If he keeps it confined to what he's already said, then I'm probably not going to worry about it too much (although I did have to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&diff=295074&oldid=295057 remove some trolling] ''(for those just passing by, note the difference between trolling and vandalism)''), but if he actually moves the article against consensus or tries to escalate his "war" in any other way, there will be trains dropped. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm just glad I'm on your side. Trains are dangerous! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::See, that's the thing. I hate that sides even have to be taken. I had hoped when I made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hyperactive_Strong_Sad&diff=293660&oldid=293654 this edit] that we could reach a suitable compromise (which seems to be fine with everyone except him). *sigh* again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Politics are inevitable. Take it from an old man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Heh. If you're older than me, I'll be surprised. I tried to find it in your user space but came up empty. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm... I've just been informed that you ''are'' in fact older than me. Huh. Now I'm just the ''third''-oldest user (that I know of). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::So who's the oldest (or 2nd oldest, if it's me)? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::[[User:Bill|Bill]] is in his early forties. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::That makes me #2, and you #3 AFAWK. Interesting. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::I left a note on his talk page, and I think it knocked some sense into him. He's actually a good guy—assuming that he doesn't offend people so much anymore. Anyway, back to my wikivacation. Preeow. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

==[[HRFWiki:User:Stinkobad1|Stinkopuppet]]==
Super Sam was going to ask you this, but he says he did not have enough time. There is a user by the name of Stinkobad1 on the Fansguff Wiki. He requests an IP address check to make sure there is not another feud, and another reason to hate H*Bad. ;) Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
:Um, please? I know you're on, and it's urgent...:( — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
::I think I'd like Super Sam to ask his own questions. If he doesn't have the time, then it must not be that urgent. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Hooray! It's me! Anyway, could you please crosscheck the IP addresses of Stinkobad1, H*bad, and while you're at it, The thing? Many thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 03:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::None of those users coincide. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== Flagrant System Error ==
Your userpage is [[car|pimp-ed out]]! How'd you get it like that? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 03:22, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:Oops! You bwoke it! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::Now that it's all over, you can tell me how you did it! [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Wheeeeeeee!]] - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Er, well, I put special clauses in the PHP code itself (that actually builds each page) that suppressed the header and footer and changed the background to blue and the text to white for any page called "[[User:It's dot com]]". Then I just changed the text to the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com&oldid=299269 error message]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== My editing a-broke ==
Hey. This is Seriously. For somereason, my account can't edit. An internal error keeps happening. I'm seeing if I can use this to edit...The thing is, though, is that everyone else is still editing. It's getting strange. {{unsigned|Seriously}}
:What is the error? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::I'll look into it and try to fix the problem. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== 'Tavi monobook ==

Look, 'Tavi is somehow halting the appear of my monobook.css. Is there anyway to make it so that there are styled links to homestarrunner.com, and other sites? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:Try editing [[Special:Mypage/tavistyle.css|the right page]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 04:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::I wouldn't even bother doing that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot net]] 04:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay. I'll do it, and you won't. ;-> (Ima try!) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, it's working, but, you may have another reason for telling me not to bother doing that. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 04:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Who, me? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot net]] 04:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== what happen to your userpage ==

Hey dotty, last time i checked your userpage, there was the blue fragment erroe page, what happen? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, 'twas an April Fool's joke. See [[#Flagrant System Error|Flagrant System Error]] above. (By the way, I'm really not very keen on "dotty", just so you know. See the top of my (working) user page.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
OOO i'm sorry, i'll just call youi dot com then, if you like?
:"It's dot com". Or "Dot com". Either one, really. They both fit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

I just thought I'd thank you for unblocking me. Sorry about that joke, I guess I'm just ''way'' different than everyone else here. What I did was still kind of disruptive, though, sorry. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

==IP check==
Can you please do me a favor? I need you to check if Crusaders IP is 69.160.0.227. Please answer as soon as you can.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:Access to that information is restricted, and unfortunately it's above your paygrade. Sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
::I need to know, because I believe that he trolled the Funny Stuff in which he is on. Come to the [http://www.editthis.info/funny_wiki Funny Wiki] and tell me there please?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Theme song ==

There's some sort of unwritten rule that I live my life by: Every awesome person, by default, needs a theme song. Yes, you heard me right, a theme song. Why don't you try a song already titled after you: [http://www.msu.edu/~larowebr/Brent%20LaRowe%20-%20Dot%20Com.mp3 Dot Com]. (Just to note, we still need one for Abdi. ;)) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==My bro==
Is it ok if my brother creates a user on here. This is so you guys don't think that I am creating sockpuppets. He is also wanting the User:lil H*bad.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:He should ''not'' have that name. Have him pick something original. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::He said "The cheatman". Would that be fine? Just you know FYI.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

Hey there Dot com, I just have a question about my [[User:DBK/userbox|userboxes]]. When I try to make it align to the left side, it only goes to the right. Then, when I put it in my about me section, it goes above my text so it looks weird. Do you know what to do? {{User:DBK/sig}} 04:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:I tweaked it a bit, removing divs in certain spots and putting in some in other places. It was mostly trial and error, though. Maybe that will get you started. (I can't really say that all the scroll boxes make your page especially easy to read, but that's just my opinion.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I realized that, I was pretty much experimenting with that stuff before. I got rid of some and just kept scroll buttons on the lists in my page, like my favorite music and cool users. Any way I was just curious why it wasn't aligning to the right, and now I'll experiment more. Thanks! {{User:DBK/sig}} 04:41, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:::No probalo! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

== TaviStyle ==

Hello. Is there any way to put the TaviStyle skin as a choosable skin on the Fanstuff Wiki? Thank you. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 14:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hello? --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 22:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not ignoring you. TaviStyle will be included when we upgrade to 1.6 soon. Until then, we've frozen changes to the software so that we have a correct frame of reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, okay. Thank you. (I just wanted to know when it will be uploaded.) --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Any chance we could get a version we could use on Wikipedia? Or one that I could at least install on the test Wiki I've got on my PC? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Email ==
Hey Dot comster. Can you check this email I sent you real quick? Thanks. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:53, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:I saw that. Why don't you ask a fanstuffer to send that for you. Better yet, use the fanstuff's email features to send it to him. By the way, what happened to pressing the [+] button at the top for new topics? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry, forgot about that. I'll try to be better (though it doesn't really matter anymore, I'm just here for the email). I tried emailing it to him, but he doesn't have an email address in his preferences. I'll copy the sent email and send it to someone. Sorry for all the trouble. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:00, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Wait, I can't. Since I did it from the wiki and not from Gmail, I can't cut and paste from any source. Looks like you're stuck with the burden. Once again, sorry for all the trouble. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== <nowiki>[[Wikipedia: </nowiki> Extension]] ==

I'm not sure whether you made the extension that lets you link directly to Wikipedia articles using the <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Article]]</nowiki> syntax, but if you did, can you share it? I'd like to use it on my own wiki. If you didn't, do you happen to know who did or where it's available? Thanks. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:That's a standard feature of every MediaWiki install. See [[Meta:Help:Interwiki linking]] for more information. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Sockpuppet vandels ==

They might just have the same IP. Maybe not the same peson. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:There are only a few ways that could be true, The Thing, and that's been taken into account, I'm sure. With only a few exceptions, if it's the same IP it's the same user. That's just how they work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== IP ==

Do you use a special page to find the IPs? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, I got special pages all right, The thing. I'm like, Discount Special Pages Warehouse over here. Some of my special pages are of such significance that they can't be shown in anything but WIDESCREEEEEEEEEEEEN. Left side: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAH! Right side... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::What do you use? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:::I've got ones on this wiki. The fanstuff wiki. Even wikis we've just made up! How can I make these pages any cooler? Just ask for me, the guy that works here at the special page place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== Question ==

If I wanted to program a WikiBot, would it be HAVE to be in PHP, Python, or MySQL? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I'm pretty sure the answer there is yes in most cases, it's moot if you want to use one here. Only developers can run Wikibots. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::While that's true, Kookykman, he might asking in general. Sorry, Bluebry. I'm not the one to ask about bots. You might try Joey, Tom, Phlip, or even others. I'm much more content to hack the software from the inside rather than use a bot from the outside. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Unless you have über-1337 haxx0r access like our friend It's dot com here, the only way you're going to be doing anything to the wiki is with normal page loads, ie exactly as if you were editing it by hand, just automated. So any language that you can use to access the net you could theoretically use to write a bot. However since many languages have packages to simplify HTTP, these languages would be easier to use, and some languages (like Python) even have pre-built wikibot frameworks for you to work off. But this doesn't say you can't go and write your wikibot in pretty much any language – it's simply a matter of how hard it is to write. Python is a simple-to-learn language anyways. I doubt you would ever write a bot that used PHP, and rarely would you write one that used MySQL. And of course if you prefer to work with <code>socket</code> and <code>connect</code> in C, there's nothing stopping you from doing that either... it would just be extremely tedious to write. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Now, I'm still new to programing, but I heard C. Would C be anything like C++? And I don't want to hear anything about developer status either. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== Dangeresque change ==

(First off I'm new here so I don't know if I'm doing this right. Just so you know)

I'm the guy that changed the Dangeresque character page to note that dangeresque's glasses somehow stay on his head despite his total lack of ears. You changed it back, saying "(that's true, but it's not really very notable)"

Not notable? This is homestarwiki! You've got an entire page on the battle of strongbadia, despite the fact that it only applies to one email. And allow me to quote some other character pages...

Homestar: "Though he lacks a visible pair of arms, he is still able to function as though he has them, being able to carry and throw things and even type proficiently. It's generally accepted that either he does have arms, but for reasons that are never explained, they are invisible, or that he has limited telekinetic powers. "

Bubs: "His facial configuration is puzzling; in Pumpkin Carve-nival, he appears to have a safety pin stuck through his face above an internal ear."

Marsipan: "Like Homestar, Marzipan has no visible arms, though she is able to interact with the world as though she did, being able to pick up and move objects, and even play a guitar. It is generally accepted that either her arms are invisible, or that she has limited telekinetic powers."

Strong Bad:"He has boxing gloves for hands (that always have square window reflections on them, no matter where he is), and a lucha libre mask for a head [...] Strong Bad may also have a Homestar-like telekinesis"

Um...so yeah. I'm not mad or anything. I just wanted to point out that dangeresque's floating glasses can probably be considered significant if all this other stuff is on the site. (Hey, you could even tie it in with Strong Bad's rumored telekinesis, right?)

In conclusion, sorry this comment was so long. I guess I'll check back on this page later to see if you offer a counter-argument. Thanks for reading!

:First of all, let me say thank you for taking the time to write such a lengthy comment. Why not take a second and [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]]? I agree with you that Dangeresque's glasses do not seem to have anything supporting them (although I suppose one could argue that they are held to his face by tension or even glue). My main problem with noting it on the Dangeresque page is that it really breaks up the flow of that sentence (which is based largely on the [[Dangeresque (theme)|Dangeresque theme]]). In addition, the information isn't really that central to the character; it's more like [[TBC]] just worked in the glasses as best they could given the features of Strong Bad's head. I'm not suggesting that we not note the information ''anywhere''. Perhaps you could put it in the list of [[Lack of Visible Arms#References to Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts|references to other apparently invisible body parts]]. Again, thanks for your note, and welcome to the wiki! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== Broken link ==

Just letting you know, the link near the bottom of your page that is supposed to lead to the discussion concerning the email blockquote styles is broken. That discussion was archived, so it should link to [[Talk:Strong Bad Email/Archive#New email format...]] instead. See ya! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

== I need some help ==

Hey there its dot com, how are you, how;s easter in america(if you celebrate it?)?

I need to ask you something, do you happen to know any Homestar runner wikipedias that are star wars fans?

by the way, happy easter

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

:A [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns2=1&ns3=1&search=star+wars&searchx=Search quick search] in the user and user talk namespaces turns up a number of users who may be fans of Star Wars. Hope this helps. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 02:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== Just a little hello ==

Hey there, It's dot com.
Homsarroks here. I just wanted to drop by and say hey and that you're cool.

{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 13:32, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Just out of curiosity, why did you revert my edits on the HR Wiki article on wikipedia? I tried to include the most important users on the wiki there (e.g. you, Tom, BazookaJoe, Some H*R Themed Username, etc.) and put accurate descriptions on what you did there. I'm not mad or anything, just a bit confused. Get back to me when you can. 

P.P.S. I left this message on your account on Wikipedia first, but I decided to put it on both your accounts so that you might get it sooner.

See yas!

:Actually, you didn't include BazookaJoe. I put him in shortly before removing the list. The reason I took it out is that it's so subjective. What makes a user notable? That list could have easily been four times as long. I decided that it would be better not to have it at all. As something of a compromise, I inserted a link that pointed to the list of sysops (even though I know that not all of the sysops are active). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I can understand that. THanks for the reply.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 22:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== We need the "Recent Changes" notice to be at the top of every page. ==

Yeah. Not everybody checks that. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:Why do you need a sitenotice? People who don't check the recent changes just won't find out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::So it's not really that big of a deal? --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Personally, I'd recommend putting the notice, or something like it, on the Main Page. This is big news, and there are a lot of fans who may not find out because they don't have accounts, don't check their user pages, Watchlist or Recent Changes, etc. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:48, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::People who visit the wiki on such an informal basis as you describe are not likely to have the same feelings towards the situation as regular and power users like us. These types of users are the ones the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:recentchangesnotice&oldid=310518 current message] is directed towards. We've added it to the [[H*R.com updates 2006|historical record of events]], but we will not add it to the [[Template:whatsnew|current updates]] if [[The Brothers Chaps]] don't mention it on H*R.com. The general community can find out through the [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]] article, as well as various other mentions throughout several articles. Death is a touchy subject, especially when it effects our heroes. The Admins are treating this with the utmost discretion, please respect our decisions and the feelings of the Chapman family. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

== hAcKEr ==

Why did you write hAcKEr in binary in your User Box? Oh well... You don't have to answer. By the way, people say your cool. I guess I agree. [[User:Steve|Steve]] 22:01, 22 April 2006
:I wrote hAcKEr, eh Steve? Heh, that's been there for months, and to the best of my knowledge you're the first one to decode it. (If you're not the first to decode it, then you're certainly the first to say anything.) I write extensions and make changes to the [[MW:How does MediaWiki work?|MediaWiki]] software at the [[Wikipedia:Source code|source-code]] level, which is called [[Wikipedia:Hacker|hacking]]. I am a MediaWiki [[Meta:How to become a MediaWiki hacker|hacker]] for this wiki. Thanks for noticing and posting! Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

== Special Pages ==

Can only Sysops edit Special Pages? --{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 00:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

:Generally, pages listed as [[Special:Specialpages|Special pages]] are ones that are protected or generated by the wiki. As such, they are not editable by the common user, or by anyone. What makes a page uneditable to a common user like you or I is the protect template. See the image on the Main Page for an example, no edits can be made to it by someone lower than sysop. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::I understand, but how did someone add the template to recent changes? --01:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC){{User:Dacheatbot/sig}}
:::The text on most special pages (including the recent changes page) is handled by pages in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=8 MediaWiki namespace]. And yes, only sysops can edit these pages. The text in the message at the top of the recent changes, watchlists, and login screen is sub-controlled by a template ({{tl|recentchangesnotice}}) that we placed on the relevant MediaWiki pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

==Appropriate Username==
I have a question about the user [[User:Old timey Strong Bad|Old timey Strong Bad]]. Is that username appropriate, because I think it isn't really due to the similarity to [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]. {{unsigned|Lopp3|21:35, 26 April 2006}}
:Our general prohibition against using the name of a character only seems to extend to the main characters. Secondary or variant characters are generally okay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

==Username Change==
If at all possible, please get around to changing my username. I left two notes on the [[HRWiki:Changing username]] page, but I still haven't had my name changed after a few days. {{User:Lopp3/sig}} 14:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

:You left your first request for a username change at 00:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC), fourteen hours and twenty-one minutes before posting your note here. You left your second request for a username change at 12:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC), only twelve hours and sixteen minutes after your first request. It has not even been one day, let alone a "few days." Please be patient. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== 65.167.69.XX ==

Hey, I did a little investigation. This IP range is notorious. I found blocks on it back to November, and comments that it is probably WoW. I know we gotta be reluctant to block a range, but I wanted to call your attention to this particular case. Take a look at the Block Log for the last 6 months to see what I am saying. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Poughwhatsie? ==

Actually, that's what I thought when that addition showed up a few days ago. It seemed like ''completely'' random trivia until I looked down at the context; "Poughkeepsie" is the destination in Homestar's word problem about trains entering tunnels. I guess this addition was an attempt to explain its significance (otherwise, why should two guys in Atlanta choose it aside from the funny-sounding name?). But if it's reinstated, it would need some rewrite to explain that (so the reader doesn't have to do the same thing I did). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
:Meh, I don't see the point of including all that info, especially if there's any kind of link that can be clicked. It's barely mentioned in the toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== Patrolling ==

Perhaps you can clear something up for me? Are all users allowed/encouraged to patroll recent changes, or only those who have committed to the official "recent changes patrol"? [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's not necessary to sign up (although it's nice to know who has committed to the work). I never patrol an edit unless I am pretty sure of (1) the overall content of the article, (2) the intent of the editor, and (3) whether or not the edit is good for the article. (Vandal edits still get marked as patrolled, but the article is immediately reverted. Likewise, edits that add incorrect information are either reverted or reworked as the situation warrants. By marking an edit as patrolled, I am saying either that an edit was good or that I'll fix it.) Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::It does. Someday I may sign up for the patrol, but I think I want to observe for a while first. I'm still really new at determining the validity of edits, as my [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Template:STUFF/senior_prom| recent adventure]] with STUFF demonstrates. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
As you might have already noticed, I have finally joined up. However, patrolling has brought a new question: What standards do you use for the Talk pages? I assume they still need to be patrolled, but is that just to watch for cursing, flaming and the like? - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:35, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

== Even more recent block ==

I was wondering about the IP address you just blocked. I looked at his contributions, and his vandalism wasn't much. At least it didn't deserve a month-long block, in my opinion. So why did you blcok him for that long? Also, how did you know he was using the computer system at that school? Quizzical in someplace beginning with Q, — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
: I understand that you want to feel like you're in the loop, but unfortunately you do not have the standing here to question my actions in this way. Rest assured that I know exactly what I'm doing and have discussed matters with other admins. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Sorry. I wasn't trying to question your authority. I know well enough through my experience here that you have some of the best judgment I've ever seen. I would never question your actions. If you took it seriously, I apologize. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Recent change of the template that says "do not create this page"==
Absolutely brilliant. I had tried to edit the weather in london before, and it had the normal template. Now it's completely redone, including hatred by Strong Bad. Dot com, you truly do rock. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, now I get it. There's a template for each one. Both are really funny, actually. Great job. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Expanded basic cable ==

Hi. Master Chief has this friend and Masterchief always goes to his house. Yesterday i went to his house and When I went on this site, I saw that he had the same IP as me. So when Master Chief went to his friend's house he created sockpuppets and vandalized the wiki. Now he isn't Master Chief's friend anymore because they got into some fight. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Dude, you've fed us all so much crap over these last few months that I'm amazed that you think we're listening anymore. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::WHAT?!?! I didn't type that! It was probaly My brother or my cousin because I left myself logged on when I had to answer the phone. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Sure. Please see my above reply, and treble it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Is the rule about, "my (Some family member) did this" not allowed here as well.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 23:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::It isn't a rule per se, but without proof it is sure looked at with skepticism here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

==Checking IPs==
I know I can't check them on here, but I was wondering were you go to check who has what IP.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 21:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:There are around half a dozen ways, none of which I'm going to elaborate on here. If you look through the MediaWiki documentation, it might give you some insights. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::What is the link in the special pages that let me check Ip addresses. (The reason for my asking is because of my wiki.) The thing that I know that if I go there here, I will just get an error.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 16:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::If you installed your wiki yourself, then you already have the access necessary to check IPs. If it's a wiki-in-a-can, then it's likely that you don't have the extensions installed that you would need for that. Again, check your documentation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

== Dot com & Tom ==

Do both of you guys live in New York, as both of you were at a Yankees game? [[User:72.150.230.125|72.150.230.125]] 01:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:No, I'm from Texas (see my user page for more info). The cap I have on is the official hat of the [http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=tex Texas Rangers Baseball Club]. I was in the Tri-State area for three games that particular week: starting with Mets–Phillies (in Philadelphia), then Yankees–A's ([[:Image:Dot com & Tom.jpg|pictured]]), and finishing with Rangers–Yankees (which I am pleased to report [http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20060515&content_id=1455525&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=away Texas won], 4–2). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, so you were right near me and I didn't know it. (I'm about 45 minutes or so west of Philly with good traffic.) You shoulda stopped by. ;)
::Also, I jus' have to say it, coz you know someone's thinking it: as one collective entity, you make It's Dot Tom. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::You see, Dorian? That joke was already thought of on IRC. Why won't you log there some time? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==
Thank you very much. I don't appreciate being spoken about, especially when it was way back when. I've been thinking for a long time about how truly ungrateful he is, and it seems he's lost his privilege. Thanks so much. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:Do you think he'll go crazy like last time? Do you think he'll make tons of sockpuppets? Is he immature enought o retaliate like this every time he gets blocked? {shudders} — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::Meh, I don't really care that much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I don't think many people care at all. I suppose we can just revert it again and again. It's not even like he's doing much inconvenience. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

==IP address change==
My Ip I think has changed. I need you to check my Ip address and tell me what it is. If I am right then my Ip address has changed for some reason.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:To check your IP, just log out. It will tell you your IP where your username usually is. If it doesn't show it there, then edit the sandbox and check the history. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Am I allowed to say what it is?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::Um, if you want to. Some people try to protect that kind of info. (It won't be news to me, though.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Here is the difference, this is my now 68.184.181.214, and here is what it was, 66.169.190.116. What is up with that?-{{User:H*bad/sig}}
::::Those IPs are both used by the [[isp|ISP]] in your area. Speaking of, are you a Rangers, Mavs, or Cowboys fan? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Mavs fan. I also love the rangers. Do you happen live in the Dallas/ fort worth area?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, but I do live in Texas. (I did live in Mesquite and work in Plano for a summer, though.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Hey, maybe we will run into each other at like a mavs or rangers game. I'll hear your name and look over and see you. Wouldn't that be nice?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::That'd be cool. I'm planning on going to the one about a week from now (Sunday night). You can see what I look like (in a Rangers cap even) in the photo on my user page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:There is a major problem though, I kind of told my parents that I know everyone here from school, so I can't say hi to you.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::That's okay. Although I traditionally wear my Homestar running shirt to ballgames, so that other H*R fans can spot me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Although, I could make up a story that would make it ok for me to be talking to you.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 20:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

==Idea'd==
I have thought of something, that I think that needs changing. I believe that the fanstuff wiki should be able to use the Tavi style for our skin. Can that be arranged?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:Well, is there a way to put it in a monobook? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
::I was talking about a way to have it as a seperate option.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I know. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
::::See [[#TaviStyle|above]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Wait we haven't upgraded yet??--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 15:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

==User page==

Are we allowed to have Wikipedia links on our userpages? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, yes. Check [[User:DorianGray|my page for a lot of them]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::See also [[HRWiki:User space]] for restrictions and conditions. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OK, thanks. I wasn't sure if maybe it causes a problem, like there being offensive content on Wikipedia articles (vandalism or not) that HRWiki can't do anything about. Well then, going to add my links... [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== Contribs ==
Do you think you could add the 'ctrbs' extension to the Fanstuff Wiki's recent changes? It'd make my job there a little easier. Thanks in advance. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
:That is standard in 1.6 (where it will be spelled 'contribs', incidentally). I recognize that it's taking us longer than we originally anticipated to make the upgrade. Don't give up hope of its happening, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
::You added it here... is it difficult to implement? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it involves making changes in about six spots of existing code. It's not just like adding an extension. If we don't upgrade real soon, then I'll see about making an exception to our lockout of changes to 1.5. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

==Troll sockpuppet==

Could you please not be so quick to assume that's what I am? Chris/Yeltensic/Granola has relatives just like everyone else. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

==Should I..==

..remove the vandalism thing from Darth's userpage? Or should I wait for him to do that or what? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 23:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

==Where's the page?==

When I try to get into the "Where's the Cheat?" page from the H*R updates page, it says "no page with that title exists," but when I get into it from the "Toons" section, it works fine. Is there a broken link, or is the problem at my end? [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 14:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

:To clarify, the link found at [[H*R.com updates 2002#Tuesday, February 26, 2002]] for [[Where's The Cheat?]] doesn't work, but the one at [[Toons#Big Toons]] does? What's really odd is that the error you're receiving is [[MediaWiki:Nogomatch]], which I thought was only shown when there's no exact match for a search done with the "Go" button. Is that the message you're seeing? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

::The closest I came to duplicating this problem is to type "Where's The Cheat" (without a question mark) in the search box. It also gives a similar error if you type "Where's The Cheat?" (with or without the question mark) in the URL. I'm going to make a redirect to fix those two things, but otherwise I can't recreate the problem as described. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

== When STUFF gets contradicted... ==

Hi, It's dot com. Here's a question that's been on my mind for a very, very long time (4 months):

What happens if we decline a STUFFed reference, thinking that it's unlikely, but then it turns out it was a reference after all? Say, for example, and I'm not saying that it is (even though I admit voting in favor), [[Happy Trogday]] WAS a homage to All Your Base, and that it is confirmed by TBC themselves on, say, the DVD commentary? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

:Well, we just write a nice letter to TBC explaining how they must be mistaken. Once we vote here, that's the end of it. :) Actually, this has happened several times (none springs to mind right this second, but I'm sure someone will list an example here shortly). In cases like that, we simply overturn our vote and note that TBC said so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I haven't yet looked it up, but I believe that "Ryan S." from [[theme park]] was such an example. You're welcome. :D --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:rampage#I.27m_on_a_Rainbow_.28originally_DECLINED.2C_now_ACCEPTED.29|Here]] is the one example of which I'm aware. And concerning AYB: Even though I voted to decline, I have always felt it was ''possible'' that fact was correct, and will not be surprised if we do have to un-decline it (nor will I be surprised if we don't). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

==Sockpuppetness==
I know sockpuppetry when I see it and I know that kk is a definate sockpuppet person. (I know how ironic) Anyways, I was wondering why it is that when someone creates an account on here, 2-3 others are created. So my question is, that do you beaucrats check every new user if they have another log in name?--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 17:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:You have already asked me questions like this two or three times on this page, but I'm still not going to give you a straight answer. Nothing against you, but I don't like to post details of something like that. Nevertheless, it's probably not hard to infer certain things by posts I've made elsewhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thatkidsysop ==
Do you think you could make [[HRFWiki:User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] a sysop on the Fanstuff Wiki? There's been a concensus for him to be added to the team. (I actually posted this on the official forum's admin thread a little while ago, but it's been hours without a response and there's already a bit of excitement on the wiki.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:No wait. Lets make a discussion about this.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 19:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
No problem. For some reason that forum wasn't showing as having new messages for me. I know what it's like to be offered a promotion and then have to wait and wait for it to go through (in my case, the whole wiki was locked down for the server move). So I will not tell you to keep your pants on, for real. ;) H*bad, this talk page is not the right venue for a discussion on the promotion. In fact, simply by Joshua's posting here I assume that all the necessary discussion has already taken place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, sorry. The reason was only because I was just wondering about it. Thats all.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 22:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

== For you and all the others... ==

For You, Tom, Thunderbird, Joey, Stu, Bazooka, Rogue Leader, Phlip, Heimstern, Abdi Viklas, Drhaggis, E. L. Cool, Firebird, Qermaq, Coder, Jones, Jay, Kilroy, Lapper, Username, Dorian, Paper, and all the others...
Hey, I just want to thank all of you for what you do for the Wiki. I used your page because you seem to be the only one logged on. [[User:65.6.55.229|65.6.55.229]] 20:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, Anonymous, why don't you write a really nice thank-you note and then not attribute it to yourself. (Oh, kids can be so cruel. Just kidding.) Thanks, man! It's nice to be appreciated! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks from me, too! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Why thank you very much, it's always nice to hear that our work is appreciated. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Thanks, man. That really makes a sysop feel good. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Thenk you very much, Mister .229! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Thanks! (And gee; if you know all of us well enough to abbreviate names, you really ought to think about getting one of your own!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm very flattered. Thank you for your kind words, 65.6.55.229. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Note: DprianGray isn't a sysop. Just a note. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Neither is Qermaq, but there you go. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::Both DorianGray and Qermaq, if I may speak for the community, are quite respected users. They have the right to be named in that list of thanks. And after all, 65.6.55.229 never once said the word "sysop" in his note. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Okay, it seems I misunderstood. Since almost every user on that list was a sysop, I figured it was thanking the sysops only. >.> — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

== Magical Sysop Powers? ==

I've noticed that you and the other sysops around here are able to identify a user by their IP number. I have my own little personal wiki, running on the exact same version of MediaWiki as this one, of course without any changes made to this wiki after installation. As far as I can tell, I have no such all knowing, ip reading powers as the sysop of my wiki. Is this something you guys have edited the HRWiki to be able to do or am I completely missing a huge power of being a sysop? —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
:I have already asked. They won't say.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::Eh, okay then. Another mystery of the HRWiki goes unsolved. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I think they want to do this to us.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 00:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::::The bureaucrats at this wiki have installed the position of "developer". On some wikis it is called checkuser. It allows users to check IP addresses of users in addition to the normal sysop powers. So yes, it's edited in. - {{User:Bub/sig}}
:::::That's not quite right, but it's kind of close, so, yeah, let's go with that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

== Paranormal Idol ==

Could you check the IPs of Paranormal Idol and HomeTron V20 on the fanstuff wiki? I think they might be the same person. - {{User:Bub/sig}}
:Sorry, but a request for that info would have to come from a fanstuff sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
::Okay, could you please check the IPs of the following Fanstuff users: [[HRFWiki:User:HomeTron V20|HomeTron V20]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol|Paranormal Idol]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol2|Paranormal Idol2]], [[HRFWiki:User:Paranormal Idol3|Paranormal Idol3]] and [[HRFWiki:User:Ytmnd Boy|Ytmnd Boy]]. Here's the reason. (edited version of reasons written by Bub on [[HRFWiki:User talk:Joshua]].)
::HomeTron V20 was a player on an interactive game which Bub created. HomeTron apparently quit the wiki because his Fake Characters were getting deleted by Joshua (as per a different discussion). A couple of days later, a new user, Paranormal Idol joined the wiki. He then created two new accounts, Paranormal Idol2 and Paranormal Idol3, claiming that he lost the password to his original account. Paranormal Idol3 then joined the same interactive game. After playing it for a while and then dying (in the game), he left the wiki. A few minutes after this, Ytmnd Boy signed up and requested to be in Bub's interactive game using the same character as HomeTron V20. All of these users share the same style of grammar, spelling and the way they transcribe.
::In my opinion, this seems like valid grounds for an IP check. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Based on the IPs, they are the same user. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Thanks. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::A few minutes ago, I got the new messages flag, and an e-mail saying that my talk page had been created by you. Do you know why this has occurred? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes. I edited and saved your page without making any changes in order to force the system to send you that message but without creating a new version of your page. I hoped you would then guess that I had replied to you here, which you did, so it worked. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

==Help Another Wiki?==
Greetings from [[Wookieepedia:|Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki]]. :) I'm one of the administrators over there ([[Wookieepedia:User:Jaymach|Jaymach]], if you'd like to check) and I have been told by [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] that you may be able to help us with something we are attempting to implement over there. We're looking into possibly using your "Image Code" verification, but only want to use it for Page Moves rather than every Page Edit. Do you know if this is possible at all and, if it is, is there any chance you could inform us how to do so? Feel free to contact me on [[Wookieepedia:User_talk:Jaymach|my talk page]]. Many thanks. (I'd sign this, but it'd be from my anon IP so there seems little point)
:We are pleased to help you here, Andrew. Tom is sending you more info by email right now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

== hello from Nikolce ==

Hi Its dot com, how have you been these last couple of uummm time?? Anyway how are you doing in school? By the way, are there any user that play warcraft 3 on battle net by any chance? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
: I've been doing well, Nikolce. I hope you're well as well. I don't currently go to school (I graduated from college six years ago). Sorry, but I'm not familiar with the game you mention. Keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Finals ==
Do you watch the Dallas Mavericks?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 14:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:I checked in on them four or five times yesterday [Game 1 of the NBA Finals, for those reading along] during the game, and I was happy they won. I'll probably see more of the later games in the series. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Also, their next game is Sunday, Sunday, Someday. Ok, bye.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 15:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Interwiki links ==
Hey It's dot com. I need some help with a link, it's [[Meta:Help:User style]]. It works here, but not on the Fanstuff User Preferences. Do you know why this is?--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 15:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:It should work now. (I updated and synchronized the knowledge base and fanstuff interwiki tables.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. Now I can continue to make it more updated like.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== The latest most recent block ==
Why did you block Strong bad roks!, because it doesn't appear that he did anything wrong.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:No, but he was going to. Thanks for your concern. Please look over my talk page here and find every thread with the words "recent block" in the title before posting another thread like this one. Thanks again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Archives ==
Sorry if my last post was worded rude, mainly because I didn't word it very well. Anyways the reason I bring it up, is because anytime I post something on your talk page it takes forever for it to bring up your talk page.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 20:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:It's okay, but you should be aware that people generally already know when their talk page has gotten pretty long. Pestering them about it rarely does more than annoy them. If you look at the top of the page, you'll see that I've already archived once before. Maybe I will again someday. Who knows, maybe even soon. There are a lot of other projects I'm working on, however, that require more of my attention right now (like the long-overdue upgrade). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Master Chief's name ==

Hey, dot com. How did you know Master Chief's real name was Ryan? That is his real name. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:Well, Brendan, you'd be surprised what information is out there if you know where to dig. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
::You mean on my talk page's history? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, there's that, but he created [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Log?user=!!!!_Ryan_ON_WHEELS! this account] as well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, how'd you know my name? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Like you said. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::But you knew my name before I said On my talk page's history. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 21:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Upgrade to 1.6 at the fanstuff wiki ==
Hey, awesome job, you and Tom really work harder than most people notice. The log in page is the best part, though. however, do you think you'll be able to add the poopsmith border again? I'm just wondering if 1.6 can't do that. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:I love the RSS upgrade....But one question: Why did you upgrade the HRFWiki before the HRWiki? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 02:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::We try to shake down any problems we're going to encounter there before we apply the upgrade here. Not all fanstuffers are happy with this arrangement, but it's the best we've got, as it allows us to identify problems using a database that already has an enormous amount of content. If it's any consolation to them, we did spend an extensive amout of time testing the new features before we committed them to the live wiki. As for the Poopsmith, I don't know when or whether we'll be seeing him again soon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

==Unblock==
Please unblocking 82.42.237.114 on a provisional basis. the vandals
are gone! [[User:Go-glow|Go-glow]] 13:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
:Forget it. I have records of at least a dozen vandal accounts from that address over the last six months, and the content of the vandalism is worse than most. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

== Hi ==

I was just lookin around on the wiki this morning and decided that I'd leave a brief hello message for you. 

Hi, It's Dot Com. 
I haven't really talked with you too much, so I felt like leaving you a message. What's up with you in real life lately? Anything cool happening that you'd like to talk about? Any interesting stories or other stuff? Are there any Wiki projects that need serious cleaning up or any pages that need creating? If so, I'd be glad to help with them. I don't really have too much wiki time any mroe, but I have a chance to be on this morning for a little while. I'd be glad to assist with any ongoing projects that are in need of serious help. If you get a chance, please reply on my talk page.

{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 13:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Could I add you to my friends list? I'd like to recognize you on my userpage for your remarkable work on this wiki over the time you've been here. Thanks for your time.

:Well, sure. You can't have too many friends. To answer your other questions: The Rangers are still doing well, and that makes me happy. I can't think of any projects off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's some good ideas over at [[HRWiki:The Stick]]. I also can't think of any pages that need to be created. I wish they would release the next toon so we can make a page for ''it''. (By the way, I replied here instead of your talk page because it's generally better to keep discussion in one place.) Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
::Alrighty then. ADD'D!!!!!--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 16:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki pages==
What exactly do MediaWiki pages do? I'm confuzzled...— {{User: Seriously/sig}} 18:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:See [[Meta:Help:MediaWiki namespace]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== A troll's IP ==
Hey, Dot com. I found a trolls IP address, and I was wondering what I should do with it.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 15:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
:I guess you should just hang on to it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, but he is a pain in the neck. I know him. He has trolled on the fanstuff before. And I just want to be done with him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 15:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

== Deleting user names ==
Hey Dot com. I heard from some very reliable sources that you guys can delete user names.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:"Can" is such a big word. Of course I ''can'' delete usernames. I can delete the whole wiki. (Not that I'm going to.) As for whether I ''will'' delete usernames, the answer is no; in general our [[HRWiki:Privacy policy#Removal of user accounts|policy]] is not to do that. Who said otherwise? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::It just seems like its not a very good idea to keep a username on the list, like NSMC, some inappropriate usernames, Willy on wheels, etc. Well maybe not NSMC, for historical reasons. And I never said anyone said otherwise.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, can can also just change there username to something else. I'm not saying that he's going to. He ''might'' but I doubt it. --{{User:the thing/sig}} 14:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::Yes you did. You said, "I heard from some very reliable sources." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, well, I was on the mediawiki channel asking questions.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes, it is technically possible, and yes, in certain very unusual circumstances it has been done, but no, we don't do it otherwise. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Really? When was it done? Also, I found out mediawiki 1.7 will be coming out in July.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::Great. I'd hate for them to actually use a version for a while. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, they told me that its going to look much better than 1.6.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 14:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::In reply to the other question: It was used after NSMC's vandalism was cleaned up. All the individual accounts were deleted and consolidated into [[User:NSMC vandal|one account]]. - {{User:Bub/sig}}

== El Cid... lcid... Are Cid... rcid... ==

Hey! [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Cutepetsrus&diff=next&oldid=338955 What's] "rcid"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
:It's the "Recent Changes ID". Each entry in the [[Meta:Recentchanges table|`recentchanges` table]] has a unique ID, which shows up in the URL when you click "diff" from [[Special:Recentchanges]] on an edit that hasn't been patrolled. The "rcid" part tells the system to display the "park as patrolled" link as you view the diff (even if the edit has [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&curid=710&diff=338906&oldid=338904&rcid=287736 already been patrolled]), and so it's not necessary to be included in a link on a talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== Rangers ==
Hey just in case you didn't get my memo, I am going to a rangers game on wednesday. I know your most likely going to erase this, but just so you know.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:That's cool. I am thinking about going on Tuesday for the Fourth and the fireworks, but I'll have to see. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I would figure thats when its going to be the most crowded.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::And I just got back. They won! Back to back homeruns. It was cool. Hey were you there? Or were you there at the July 4th game?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
::::No, I didn't get to go to that one. (That's too bad, 'cause I love patriotic-themed fireworks.) Glad your game was good, and hey, they're tied for first right now! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

== Bad wording... ==
Hey Dot com. I was wondering about your accually typing the word (A good way of saying it) whatsit on a page. I know you already know this, but there are little kids on here. Can you reword it, please?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 04:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:No, I'm not going to reword it. There is a difference between ''using'' a word and referring to a word ''as a word''. Assuming that the user doesn't already know what his name means, then there would be no way to explain to him what the problem is without resorting to pedantic euphemism or a click-through, both of which are unnecessary given that (1) we should be mature enough to calmly discuss any subject, (2) the whole name itself is already as offensive as or more offensive than its components, and (3) the likelihood that a random user will find that page is close to zero. If it makes you feel better, I'll put a language warning there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry, I was just making sure that everything is G or Pg rated here.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

== Marshie Face ==
[[Image:foodfaces.png|thumb|Both a little creepy]]
Okay, you win. I hadn't compared them side-by-side and was going solely by memory. They DO, after all, have a similar artistic style, even though I can now see that I was wrong in thinking they were the same. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Subst signatures ==

Hi, this is CapitalQ from TMBW.net. We just upgraded to MW 1.6 yesterday (only to see 1.7 stable released today, but that's another story), and after seeing that templates in signatures automatically turn into substrings, ACupOfCoffee pointed us [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.6#Substituted Signatures of Death|here]], where you state "I have created a new variable that allows me to disable this so-called feature, which I now have done." If you could tell me exactly how you went about doing that, I'd be very greatful. Thanks. :) -[[TMBW:User:CapitalQ|CapitalQ]] 02:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:No problem. I have replied on [[TMBW:User talk:CapitalQ#Subst'd sigs|your talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks, all set up! You rock. -[[TMBW:User:CapitalQ|CapitalQ]] 12:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homsar's Speech ==

DaAaaAAaaAaahhh! Hi, It's dot cayommm! It's KieferSkuunnk! I just wanted to thank you for the <s>flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital</s> help on my Homsar's Speech project! We're almost done now, but I still can't feel my leeeggs. Okay, bye-dee-bye! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== /wiki/ redirect ==

I asked Interruptor Jones about this, and he told me to tell you, so... I think /wiki/ should redirect to /index.php/ because whenever I want to look something up in HRWiki by typing in the URL, I invariably end up typing "/wiki/" and getting the ol' 404. I'd just add <tt>Redirect permanent /wiki/ http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/</tt> somewhere in the .htaccess file, and it should work automatically. I think it'd be even better to do it the other way around and make "/wiki/" the canonical form and have index.php redirect to that instead, but not having used the MediaWiki software, I don't know the exact configuration options. Oh... and ever thought about moving some of the stuff on this huge talk page to an archive page? ;) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 16:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:Isn't typing the URL out a bit cumbersome? Why not create a [http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keywords.html smart-keyword] instead? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::It's the way I've always done it, and it doesn't feel so cumbersome after having done it a million times with Wikipedia. Other people might not be aware of smart keywords (I wasn't until just now). Besides, what's the harm in setting up a redirect? :) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 21:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm not inclined to hack the wiki to aid one person's "way of always doing it". There are easier client-side options for what I percieve to be a client-side issue. Sorry. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::::But is it just one person's way of always doing it, or are other people doing it, too? And I still don't see the harm in just adding a line to .htaccess; you wouldn't even have to restart the server or anything. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 03:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::It's not that your request isn't easy to fulfill. I presented you with an alternative that would actually be quicker than if I made the change and you typed the entire URL. I don't see this as a problem with the wiki, I see it as an issue that is unique to a single user's behavior. Though I have to admit, I still might consider changing the <tt>index.php</tt> in the URL to <tt>wiki</tt> (making <tt>wiki</tt> the canonical form), but I'd want to go over the consequences of such a change with others first. (Note that this was [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 2#Mod rewrite to remove index.php from URLs|discussed once before]].) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm unindenting so this doesn't get too wide... anyway, we still haven't even established that I'm the only one who types /wiki/ -- do you have error log statistics to back it up, maybe? I also think the redirect would be a good idea because it would be more consistent with other wikis (I believe most of the most popular MediaWiki sites use /wiki/); inconsistency is why I make this error in the first place. I could make further arguments, for example, that the URL is part of the user interface of a website, and any user interface should anticipate user error. (It's not uncommon for a text-based program to understand both "exit" and "quit", for example.) I could make an analogy with "typo redirects" on wikis. I know, it sounds silly to back up such a little thing like this with so much, but it just feels like a redirect is the Right Thing. (I guess becoming a webmaster is having this effect on me.) Well, I don't suppose there's any more I can say on this subject, so do what you're gonna do. :) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 20:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== PHP upgrade ==

[[Special:Version]] still says that we're running PHP 4.4.2. Upgrade to PHP 5 unsccessful? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:Delayed. Turns out we need to upgrade [[Wikipedia:Red Hat Enterprise Linux|RHEL]] so that we can upgrade [[Wikipedia:Apache HTTP Server|Apache]] so that we can upgrade [[Wikipedia:PHP|PHP]] so that we can upgrade [[MW:|MediaWiki]]. We're going to try again over the weekend. (We ''did'' upgrade from 4.3.x to 4.4.2, for any of you keeping score at home.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
::Upgrading RHEL and Apache might not be necessary after all. We should have the CAPTCHA problem (which is really a missing libraries problem) fixed with the upgrade as well, which according to my information should be any time now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

== Special:Countedits ==
Could you please install the Count Edits extension on the Fanstuff? Many combolations, {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 08:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:That function is a server-intensive function (which is why it's restricted to sysops on this wiki). Perhaps you could elaborate on why you need it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::Honestly, we don't. I was simply interested (in counting edits). - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I see. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I am looking for documentation and an implementation of Special:CountEdits. If you can help, please contact me at the e-mail address here: http://en.csharp-online.net/index.php?title=User:WikiSysop.

Thanks for your help. --- Editor C# Online.NET

== Ni hao! ==

Hey, Dot com, just wanted to say hello from China! Hope all's going well for you. Things have been crazy in China (in an awesome way), but I can't imagine I'll get much time to tell all you guys until I return to the USA... anyway, just wanted to give you a long-distance greeting. Zaijian! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
:China man that's gotta be fun! Some day I hope to visit China. Just won't be any time soon. I do plan to go to Kansas City Missouri for a few days this summer! Hi Dot com! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
::Hey juys! Looking forward to your return! (Although, Heimstern, it's kinda like you never left. What an increasingly small world we live in.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I think I'm in a bit of an abnormal situation here, to be honest. I'm in about the nicest hotel in Shuangliu county and stuff like that. So in some ways, I have a lot of the conveniences of home. A lot of places in China aren't like that, or so I hear. But then again, China is growing like crazy in terms of technology and modernization. It seems like ''everyone'' here has a cell phone. Like, ''more'' oft than in the USA. I don't have time to say much more now, though. We'll talk more when I return. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

== Olsen Twin'd!! ==

How did you know that the pictures in Teen Girl Squad 11 came from that M magazine? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I have to admit that I'm a big Mary-Kate and Ashley fan (Ash is my fave), and I've had a subscription to ''M'' since I was a twelve-years-old boy.  — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::Nice. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


== Old main page style ==

Don't get me wrong, I love the new style, but there are still people complaining (well, on the forum). Is there a way to put that old style as one of the skins in the preferences? If it's too much work, it's fine with me, I like this style better, but some people don't. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}
:We're not going to create and maintain another skin just for that old style. There are instructions out there somewhere on customizing one's personal CSS to make the main page like the old style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
::That works. I'll just tell people that. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}

== Quick reference guide ==
Ok, this has been bothering me for a while, why on the [[Template:stuffinstructions|STUFF instructions]] page is the words quick reference guide, in red?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
:It's not red; it's kind of a goldish color. It's a different color so that it will stand out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
::Really? It really looks bold red. Not even close to a goldish <s>colour</s>color. Weird.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it is a '''reddish-gold color,''' but not '''as red as a broken link.''' — '''[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]''' 03:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Guitar riff from "Personal favorites" ==

I noticed that the QotW page lacks the sound file for the "Wicked Guitar Solo". I have a copy of that file lurking here, though the file upload page seems to want images, so I figured I'd better not chance it. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

--Ian.

:Hi there Ian. Please email the file to [mailto:tom@hrwiki.org tom@hrwiki.org]. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== No fan of zeugma? ==

Aw, I loved [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Pi&curid=26404&diff=353018&oldid=353017&rcid=302440 that line]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:I am a fan of zeugma, but not when it seems unintentional. My personal fave: "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana" (Groucho Marx). Close runner-up: "You held your breath and the door for me" (Alanis Morissette). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

::Or the classic "If we do not hang together, we shall certainly hang separately." {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== 1 Username ==
Ok, I was looking through the system messages when one of them caught my eye, it said: "Sorry, you have already created $1 accounts. You can't make any more." is it possible to make the number a 1. So that there can't be anymore sockpuppets or something like that.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 05:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:Ok, I know that there is an option that will let you set the amount of accounts in one day, so why not have you and/or Tom turn on the option everyday?--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
::Because this isn't that important to me personally. If you think this is something the entire wiki should consider, then you should bring it up in Da Basement. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you from Super Martyo Brother ==

I'd like to thank you for: 
*Changing my username
*Putting up with my noobish comments on talk pages
*and for just being so awesome!
You really do deserve a pizza trophy! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome, SMB! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

==Help, please?==

Sorry if I'm bothering you, but I'd like to patrol recent changes, and there's no one else to really ask. What do the red "!"s and "N"s mean? Sorry if I'm bothering you. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 20:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
: "!" means the page has not yet been marked as patrolled. "N" means that the page was created with the edit in question (and, thus, there will be no "diff" available for that edit.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::Oh! Now I understand. Thanks. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==
I wouldn't have lasted a week. Even though yes I am not on as much anymore because of band and whatnot, but still.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:No problem, just see that it doesn't happen again. If it does, I won't be able (which is to say, willing) to unblock the IP so quickly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I was about to say, "wait your an admin!". I get it, don't worry he won't be getting on the wiki anymore. I locked the internet with a very special password, that even with your "great" detective like skills couldn't get. Unless of coarse you have 20 life times tucked away with you..... anyways, thanks again. And I do mean again. --{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I guess he won't be a problem for you guys anymore.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 21:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

== long time no see ==

Hey there It's dot com, how have you been, havn't spoken in a long time, but now i can bacause its the school holidays for me. What's been happening with you?

Guess what: i recently had a maths and science test, and i got GOOD scores. 100% for science, and 107% for maths.

ps: i need to ask you something, you remember the time i asked you why you don't like the later seasons of simpsons, well on your userpage, it also says you don't like the later seasons of family guy either, whats the reason? Can i say , to me sometimes the ''recent'' episodes aren't the same as before. some of them use the same joke as before eg: marge and homer repeatetl arguing. Marge has changed alot, before she was a likeable character, now she seems.... different, do you get me?

Final note: What would be your favourite quotes of the simpsons, from the top of my head it's:

"And i say, a monkey ''can'' mown our lawn". Homer of the distance.
"I fell 8000 feet onto a pile of jagged rocks". Abe Simpson.
"(Austrian accent)Good-moring and welcome to advanced physics,1-0-1, i see alot of new faces, but as the old saying goes: "Out with the old, in with the Nuclues".(everyone laughs except homer). "Now let me just- whoops(drops notes). Homer stars laughing hard:"aha aha hah haha, a did you see that jerk, ah ah ah ha hah , AAAAAA he DROPED HE'S NOTES, AAAAAAA HAH HA H AH H aAAAAAAAAAA HA HA H A.

To me, this is one of my favourite episodes, mostly becasue i can make jokes to my brother about him being in University himself: "Have you spoken with your Austrian professor yet", and "Have you found your secret "Dungeons and Dragons lairr, thats has Nerds secretly studing and playing with characters at level 40" etc.

talk atch you later (sp)
[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

i forget to ask you so so, something serious: How do you make those things on wiki that link to other websiter, like insted of having this website in full writing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nf1VMk0o4Iw, you shorten it into a small thing, how's it done?

ps: at this video on youtube, go to the time 09:26, this is where the joke is where homer is laughing.

==Text could not be found==

On the [[Strong Badman]] page I got an error that says that the text could not be found, and I should report it to an administrator. Do you think it has anything to do with the recent maintnance? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:That page seems to be working fine to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::If that happens again, you can fix it by purging the page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== MediaWiki Question ==
Hey, IDC. I was wondering if you could let me know how you "hard-coded" the header for [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] to appear from [[MediaWiki:Sandbox]] all invisible-like. I just noticed it and I thought it was pretty nifty. --'''[[User:porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:porplemontage|talk]]'') 02:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:I inserted some hooks into Article.php and wrote a hook function that draws on these [[Mediawiki:Sandbox|two]] [[Mediawiki:Introduction|pages]]. The procedure might change when we upgrade to 1.8. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
::Could you show me the code you used? --'''[[User:Porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]'') 05:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== Permanent Edit Removal ==
I remember how the last time the Fanstuff got attacked by a troll who placed highly unappropriate images on pages, you permanently deleted those versions of the pages from the database. You may want to do that again with edits by the troll [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/NKSCF|NKSCF]]. Most of the pages he put images on were deleted (not sure if you still want to delete them from the database), but there's one on Y2K's [[HRFWiki:User:Y2K|userpage]] that still remains. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 08:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:You could just delete the page, and then restore all the edits except that one... it would still be in [[Special:Undelete]], but you don't need admin powers to do it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Update Icons ==

It's dot com, I noticed a bit of some messy whitespace on the edges of two of the Main Page update icons ([[Image:update-cs.png]] and [[Image:update-ps.png]]). They look fine when they're situated at the top of the Main Page, where the gradient is lighter, but as you add more saturation to the background, the white edges really start to come through. Take a look toward the bottom of the [[Main Page]] to see what I mean. Anyways, I went ahead and tried to clean them up for you a bit, but unfortunately I was unable to upload new versions, since they're both set as protected pages. (As an aside: why are they set as protected pages in the first place?) The versions I made might look rougher on a purely white backdrop, but I think they blend pretty nicely on the gradient background on the main page, comparatively speaking. So here they are, use them if you like:
* http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8674/updatepsqm5.png
* http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7750/updatecsej0.png
--{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 00:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:The problem with the images you made is that they use an 8-bit transparency, which is currently not recognized by Internet Explorer. Enough of our readership still uses IE that we have to go with the older 1-bit transparency. Thanks for trying, though! The images are protected because they are on the main page, and otherwise it would very easy for someone to upload something very objectionable in their place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes and Homsar Quotes ==

Hi there its dot com!! Loafing redirected my problem to you. I made a Homsar random quote userbox (see my User Page - first on the userbox list) and was trying to add it to the Userbox page for the benefit of the Wiki. So everyone could see it and enjoy the bounty of it's... well whatever it is the same as I do. So I go to the Userbox page and try to add it in. Problem. It won't add into the <userboxsample> tag because of the homsarquote template. Of course, it works OUTSIDE of the tag, so it works on my page and everywhere else. I just can't make it display in the table on that page. Any way that can be fixed? Thanks a ton. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 08:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. The braces around the homsarquote template have to be escaped inside the userboxsamples tags. View [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Userbox&diff=377189&oldid=376519 this edit] to see the method and the result. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::: Hey thanks. I thought the random homsar box would be a good idea. Heh, I like the change to "Words of wisdom" better than just Homsar Quote. Good call. lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== ParserFunctions ==

A little late on this, but I just noticed: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AQermaq%2FWords_said_or_seen_once&diff=374614&oldid=374198 good work], and thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:No prob, Bob. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Happy X0th birthday, Dot com! ==

Happy birthday, to my twin sysop brother and world's youngest man! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Happy X0th! 86% of the way to being eligible to run for president — plus, you've already got a winning slogan: "Vote for Ben, He's dot gov!" Eat a cake, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Herzliche Glückswünschen zum Geburtstag! Have a great day, and may you never get the black lung. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Happy thirtieth email, Dot com! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Happy birthday, Dot com. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Tanjyobi Omedeto, Dot com-san. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Wow... that's just a little bit less... than 32... I learned that in school! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Welcome to deadness. You'll see, it's not so bad after all ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yom huledet shloshim same'akh! It's dot old... Just kiddin'. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Happy B Day Dot Com. May you eat some cake :) {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Oh, I missed your birthday, happy late birthday. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Dude, how did I miss this? Happy birthday....late... late birthday.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 23:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Happy birthday, Ben. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 01:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I'm also a little late in saying this, but happy birthday, Dot com. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 02:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Spits out coffee* Dot com's name is Ben??! Which is said in the first line of a page that I've read but I still didn't know??!?! {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Happy hundredth birthday, Strong Bad! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Hey, I didn't know it was your Bday... Happy uh... Bday!!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Oh. I missed it. Still. Hope you HAD a happy Bday!!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Wow, you and my sister have almost the same birthday. Difference of one day. ;) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 05:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::Ah, I missed it. Happy REALLY late birthday. [[User:Powered by The Kate|Powered by The Kate]]

== Error ==

Look at [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] - at this moment, it offers:

<blockquote>The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found, named "The House That Gave Sucky Treats". 
This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history link to a page that has been deleted. 
If this is not the case, you may have found a bug in the software. Please report this to an administrator, making note of the URL.</blockquote>

This is abnormal, no? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:I just purged it. Looks normal now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== poll ==

Sorry it the poll is not quite what you were looking for. Let me know if I can help in any way. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Sure thing. As Loafing just pointed out, it's still early for a poll. I feel that there are more ideas and discussion to be had first. Also, I don't think we need to have all 21 or whatever the number is now be included in the eventual poll. Just the best finalists. By the way, I do agree that we need to start organizing the page, and possibly start a new page at, oh, say, [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006]] or something. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::If we are still that early I might make a few of my own then. I usually say that and get busy with the family but for something like this I might just carve out some weekend time. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::also you might want to put a note after Lapper's comments so that others don't take their cue from him like I did. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman = Poopsmith 20X6? ==

You mentioned in one of your edit summaries that you would divulge any evidence that Sticklyman is the Poopsmith's 20X6 counterpart, but I can't find your answer. Does the commentary of "Under Construction" shed any light on the subject? [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 20:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Alas, it does ''not'' seem like Sticklyman and the Poopsmith are related in any way. They mentioned a couple of other generic references (under-construction icons in general; fighting stick-men in animé), but no mention of everyone's second-favorite guy (he's No. 2). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::That sucks. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 21:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

== Tampo ==

Can you please unblock [[User:Tampo|Tampo]]? He's really sorry for...... whatever he did (if any) and I think he's done his time. You don't have to but I'm just asking nicely if you please would. And uh.... Mr. Peanut was a good boy. {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

:Tampo {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3AIpblocklist&action=search&limit=&ip=Tampo isn't blocked}} and {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Tampo never was blocked}}. Why are you making such an odd request on behalf of a user that left on his own volition and hasn't been around in months? If he wanted to edit, he could quite literally just edit. Are you acting as his proxy by his request or is this your own doing? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:09, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
::His IP address is blocked, at least that's what he told me. He can't edit. {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:::{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3AIpblocklist&action=search&limit=&ip=24.77.42.48 Oh yeah.}} We'll think about it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Dot com can feel free to revert this if he wants, but let me mention this - in real life, sometimes you run out of chances. You show up to work late too many times, eventually you are not going to be welcome there, and no amount of pleading will help. When you hurt a friend enough times, it can happen that they will no longer be your friend, despite any of your attempts to make up for it. I think if a person violates a wiki's way of doing business often enough and persistently enough, it's not unfair to say "Sorry, you aren't welcome here" at some point. I'll leave it to others to determine whether Tampo's abuses of the wiki were "too much", but honestly, if the decision were left to me and me alone, there's be no way someone with an established history of abuse would be allowed back in. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
The thing, after reading [[wikipedia:User talk:Danny Fenton#Tampo|this discussion]], it appears that a) this is more your idea than Tampo's and b) that he did not at all say that he's sorry. Please do not contact vandals with the aim of bringing them back to the wiki and then lie to us about what they said.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:08, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:Hold on... he's not blocked from fanstuff!?!?!?!?!? {{User:The thing/sig}} 18:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::So what? This is the knowledge base. Please stop posting on my page about this. I have said we will think about it and at present that is all we are planning to do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:55, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

==Inactive on Forum==
You're an admin here and on the forum, right? Well, I registered to the Forum a long time ago, and I've been inactive all this time cause I didn't know what it meant, and I deleted the confirmation email. Now that I finnaly know (thanks to Joshua on the Fanstuff), can you please do something about my inactive-ness on the Forum? I'd really like to be there, where it's really active on topics. {{User:Spyrox6/sig}}
:I went ahead and marked your account as active. Enjoy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== Knowledge Base - Fanstuff Redirects ==
Correct me if I'm wrong, but <s>are you asking for a challenge</s> I believe there's a column in the `interwiki` table named `iw_local` that allows redirects between local wikis. Could this be enabled for the Knowledge Base on the Fanstuff and vice versa? There are currently 18 such redirects currently on the Fanstuff and 3 on the Knowledge Base. It was prolly be more convenient if this was enabled. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 06:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:You are correct; that does work. I will have to discuss whether we want to enable it. Some might appreciate the click-through as notice that they were leaving the knowledge base. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

::We've enabled this kind of redirect from Fanstuff to the Knowledge Base on a provisional basis. Let us know how it works. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

== do we see the similarities? ==

[[Image:Internetdotcom.PNG]] 
Your It's dot com, it's Internet dot com...you talked to Karen just last week...you think she put in a good word for you? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

==Sorry==
Note to self: "Keep your mouth closed more often Ilko." Sorry that I seem to be defeating myself (and the process to some extent) in the logo discussion. I keep telling myself to just sit back and be quiet and not keep reacting to things, but so far have been far too reactionary. Just wanted to appologize for being too. . .well too whatever you want to call it. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 00:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== Move Page Modification ==
I was thinking that it would be convenient to have an option for sysops (and other people with the 'delete' permission) to have a checkbox when moving a page that would delete the redirect automatically without having to do it manually. So, I went and made some code changes to SpecialMovepage.php, and I have what I think is a working implementation of my idea.

All the technicalities out of the way, I'm asking if you could put this onto the Fanstuff. It would be of great convenience when reverting the page move trolls which are all too frequent now-a-days, and when fixing things such as Text Adventures subpages, which are a large problem. The code for 1.8.2 is [http://simpedia.5gigs.com/files/SpecialMovepage.txt here], and the system messages required are [http://simpedia.5gigs.com/files/RedirectDeletionMessages.xml here].

Could you please think about this and let me know? Thanks a plenty, {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 16:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:I believe there already is that function. I've done it a couple times this week. You have to press the move page button, and then another page will come up with the Delete & Move option. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::That's a similar function - it deletes the page you're moving to, rather than the redirect it leaves. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== A History - logo ==

Hey It's dot com, for {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:A_History&diff=next&oldid=395453 this edit}}, was this discussed on the wiki on IRC? Either way, I think it would be good nugget of history if we knew when the discussions began in their most primative forms. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== duplicate accounts ==

Hey. I noticed that the user account [[Special:Contributions/Rico crazy?|Rico crazy?]] was created on 12/20/06 and [[Special:Contributions/Rico*crazy?|Rico*crazy?]] was creadted on 12/21/06. Is this the same person? If so, where do we state that people can only have one account? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
:On the one hand, duplicate accounts like that are not allowed, but on the other hand, we usually don't mess with trying to fix it unless there's some good reason. It seems to me (without actually looking anything up) that accounts like those don't tend to have many contribs, so it's not worth bothering over. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

== And A Merry Decemberween to You As Well ==

'''It's''', it's good to hear from you. Wishing you and your fine group of admins the best and continuing success at running my favorite Homestar Runner resource. ''Huttah!'' — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 00:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

== Transclusion templates ==

Hi Dot com,

The reason I had 4 different templates was in order to have a separate category for each language, thus making it easier for speakers of specific languages to know which pages need to be verified in their language as well. A generic template wouldn't do that. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yes it will. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDC:''' Ohhh! nevermind I see it now! oops! Hey what about the {{tl|subtitlesLinks}} template, it doesn't seem to work. I was too slow to get to you first ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::Oh i see the language template, sneaky! I'm slow. And tired. Thanks for the fix! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:::[edit conflict] The {{t|subtitlesLinks}} template (which could probaby use some non-transcluded documentation) adds links to the subtitles pages over underneath the external links (below the toolbox and search box) on the left side there. What seems to be the problem? It looks like it's working correctly to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the info! Although I *just* saw the reply. (I'm rusty, I know.) I [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Adding_Subtitles_section_and_other_Issues|figured out]] what was going on just as Loafing had left me a message. It's all good now! But yeah documentation and some "advertisement" would help. My eyes are trained to pretty much avoid looking at the left column unless there's something there I know I need. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I added some documentation. As for the placement of the links, we felt that they should be easily accessible for those who know where to look and yet completely out of the way for those who are simply reading the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::Noticed the doc. Looks nice! As for the link placement... Ah! Makes sense! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

== New year? ==

Pushing the season, are we? Not a new year anywhere for at least 4 hours! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

== Logo redo ==

Hey, If you made the new logo on Flash, may I see the .fla file? Im makning a new logo for the Fanstuff (most likely only used for my monobook), but I cant just get it correct. {{User:X66x66/sig}}
:I didn't use Flash. The logo was made using a raster, rather than a vector, process. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
::Whats a raster? And if it isnt too much to ask, could you make a redone Fanstuff logo?--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 22:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:::A raster image, also called a [[ahd:61/61/B0286185.html|bitmap]], is an image formed by a grid of pixels (rather than a mathematical formula). JPEGs, GIFs, PNGs, and TIFFs are all examples of raster formats. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
::::<s>Ooohh did you use Photoshop or one of those art programs and if you dont want to make a redone fanstuff logo, thats ok with me and I'll understand!{{User:X66x66/sig}}</s>
What program did you use?--{{User:X66x66/sig}}20:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:Photoshop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::Then how do you make it animated?--{{User:X66x66/sig}}20:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Using two frames in an animated GIF. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the tips! {{User:X66x66/sig}} 20:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I'm sorry Dot Com! I'll wait for a concensus. I was just doing what Qermaq suggested. Also, I thought I did address your points on the talk page, but I guess I didn't do a very good job of it. Okay, no more literary present edits! (Sorry again!) {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 17:50, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:There's really no need to apologize (especially not three times). As I write this, I have the last post in that thread, so I'm not sure where you addressed my points. The addition you made to the project page is not the way we currently write, and therefore we need to get a lot more input (and perhaps hash out the wording) on the talk page before any changes are made to the project page. (On the other hand, if all you want to do is enunciate what we already do, then that can be easily added—but we need to figure out what that is.) All in all, keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== HRWiki Forum ==

I've tried to register on the forum two times, under NachoMan and NachoZ, and I never get the account activation email. Is it because I'm using an AOL email address or something else? -- [[User:NachoMan|NachoMan]] 19:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know what the problem was, but I activated the NachoMan account. Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks a bunch! -- {{User:NachoMan/sig}} 20:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

== <s>My name change</s> ==
<s>I don't mean to bug you... sorry if I am, no really sorry. Anyways, I think that it is time for my name to be changed. It's not like I am leaving the wiki... not pulling a rainer... seriously... or whoever else. 
Cheers, 
--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 23:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)</s>

==An Epic Apology==
*Dear It's dot com, in regards to my stupidity in creating a sockpuppet, I would like to say a few things for myself:
*Even though I lost a bet (an NFL Playoff bet), I still could've chosen not to be dishonest and jeopardized the Wiki. Sockpuppetry is a very treason-esque thing to do to a community, and I am truly sorry and embarrassed that I partook in such a sort of action. My reputation and my judgment from others is now set back to 0, and I must start over. I never should of started a fake account.
*Well, on the other hand, during my block, it was literally ''killing'' me, seeing all of the unwelcomed visitors, flash artifacts to be reverted, and the act of helping confused users... it all made me go crazy.
*I, also, starting now, will not edit namespace unless needed. I noticed on my contribs that is is getting monotonous that I am adding to my "edits" every twenty minutes or so. I'm just gonna leave it all alone. Who cares how much edits I have? Anyway, yes, I am going to edit articles for the majority from now on.
*I gravely hope you accept this apology, and I am now looking forward to a problem-free era here.

Sincerely,

{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

P.S. Did you receive my email?

:I'm not Dot Com, but I certainly forgive you for giving in to a stupid bet. Everybody makes mistakes and you don't have to kill yourself about just one, so you learned a valuable lesson from this experience and that is that sockpuppets are a very bad thing. I'd still like to see you around the wiki as much as I have before this ordeal and I hope you'll do just that. Regards, -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 18:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, yes. I plan to have a future here. I'll still be around often, but I'm not going to edit userspace often. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 19:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::That's good. I only edit my userpage when information on it becomes outdated, so you might try that. I hope Dot Com shows up to see your apology relatively soon. I'm sure he'll forgive you as well. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 19:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, he's a nice guy. And smart. Definitely smart. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 19:19, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::I hope you can make good on your promise to stay out of the user space. I wish you well with that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Notice on [[Subtitles:sbemail/en]] ==

Your notice, though it would be useful, made the subtitles not work. I moved it to the talk page. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 15:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:It looks like it wasn't the note itself, but rather the comment under it, that was causing the trouble. Can you confirm? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::The subtitles viewers strip templates and <nowiki><pre></nowiki> tags from subtitles scripts. Everything else remains, and if something is left outside the <nowiki><xml></nowiki> element, the viewers won't be able to parse the script. It works now.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
:::A comment can go anywhere after the <code><?xml ?></code> line – it can be outside the <code><transcript></code> tags without any problems, but it is important that the <code><?xml ?></code> line is the first thing on the page after <code><pre></code> tags and templates are removed, or the parser will fail. Incidentally, the box at the top doesn't ''have'' to be a separate template in order to be stripped out... <code><nowiki><noinclude></noinclude></nowiki></code> also works. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, a template was where I was headed anyway, since it should also be used on the corresponding pages once the page gets translated. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

== Trendy Totebag's Nintendo Thing ==

Does that count as a guestbook? Sorry for signing it; I really didn't know. Also, you probably should've asked him before you deleted a whole section on his userpage. Even though it probably needs to go, he needs to delete it himself. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 03:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, it counts as a corollary to a guestbook. Just so you know, I did exactly what I should have done. According to our [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|user space policy]], users, especially administrators, can edit another's user page "to bring it in line with policy," which is what I was doing. It is true that in most cases, a talk page note is preferred; however, the user in question is no longer active, and the mere fact that you signed the list showed that it needed to be removed. Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
::I'm sorry. If I see anymore guestbooks, I'll report them at Da Basement or something. I assume only admins/sysops are allowed to delete guestbooks, so I won't delete them myself. Anyways, see you later! -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 21:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

== Tsk, tsk, Dot com... ==

Hey Dot com, just wanted to let you know that your [[User:It's dot com/welcome|welcome template]] is not XHTML 1.0 Transitional {{pl|l=http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrwiki.org%2Findex.php%2FUser%3AIt%2527s_dot_com%2Fwelcome&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&verbose=1 compliant}}. I found out while validating {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AStux&diff=429512&oldid=429508 my own page}} (that was the only correct way for me to fix it). Oh BTW, you might want to consider re-archiving {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:It%27s_dot_com#Trogdor.21 your talk page}}! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:I'll get ''right'' on that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Profound Fanstuff Contributions ==
Hello Dot com. I just wanted to say that you did the best Poopsmith impression ever [[HRFWiki:Character Impressions#The Poopsmith Impressions|here]]! Oh, man. I never laughed so hard! Good day, and keep kickin' sockpuppet butt! ;-) --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks! For those who wonder, I really did record it myself. I even got it on the first take! (My impression of Pom Pom, which is also on that page, took several takes to get right.) Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah I saw that. Keep on tranglin. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Redirects A-Plenty==
Hey Dot com, out of curiosity what are [[User:It's dot com/redirects|these]] [[User talk:It's dot com/redirects|pages]] for? If you're keeping track of all redirects, wouldn't a script do that? (Or doesn't Media Wiki already?) Also, unless it gets rv'd here's {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=SBLOUNSKCHED%21_Jingle&curid=32839&diff=430323&oldid=429198&rcid=382058 another one}} for ya (I dunno if you want anyone else to edit any of those pages). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's some research I'm doing for a linking project I'm working on, which will be rolled out with the next upgrade. It's for a special class of redirects, not all of them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Look! The Doc Agees With Me ==

You don't understand t5hat article, do you!!!!!!!!! It has all the features it should have!!!!! Very Angry, {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} P.S. Your off my cool peeps list.
:Dear Sam. When someone nominates an article for deletion, and the article describes something very small within the entire Homestar Runner body of work, then we have a discussion about whether to keep it. You, as the creator of the article, should not remove the TBD notice until some time has passed and several people have had a chance to weigh in. The fact that one other user agrees with you does not mean that there is a consensus for the article to stay. I personally don't have a strong opinion either way; I'm just trying to make sure we follow the correct procedure. Let me caution you against editing the wiki while you are angry, by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Main Page Redirection ==

Hello Mr. Its dot com[[Names_ending_in_-erson|erson]] If you don't know, I'm a new member here. I was wondering how to edit the main page of the wiki and make redirect pages. Both of them I've tried to do but couldnt figure out. I thoght you could tell me. -[[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]]
:Hello, Mr. Homestar-winner. Several things on the main page are locked to help prevent vandalism, but there are a couple of sections you can edit, most notably the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew]] page. ... Redirects are pages that have text in the following form at the top: "<code><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[page to redirect to]]</nowiki></code>", and are otherwise blank. See [[Meta:Help:Redirect]]. Cheers! Incidentally, to sign your name, just type four tildes, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, and the system will automatically insert your name and a timestamp, like this: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks man, but I had gotten that far before (with the redirect page I mean). How do you automaticly make the page redirect such as with [[sbemail 1]] instead of the redirect page i tried to do: [[User:Homestar-Winner]]? [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]] 16:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The problem is that you had a space between the number sign and the word "REDIRECT". Incidentally, that redirect is unnecessary. I will be deleting it soon. If you would rather that your second name begin with a capital letter, say so [[HRWiki:Changing username|here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Ok, I don't mind you deleting it. I was just trying it out. My name is fine like it is. [[User:Homestar-winner|Homestar-winner]] 17:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Plan G ==

If you don't want me to delete [[Email Intros]], please comment on [[Talk:Email Intros#Organize into a transcript|my suggestion]] on how to revise it. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:03, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:There is no reason to delete or merge that article; it describes a specific, separate feature. On the other hand, if you can make it into a better article, then by all means do so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== April fools ==

who was in charge of the main page and image code thing? Is there any other April fools stuff I missed? You should check out what I did. It took me almost all day yesterday.[[User:Homestar-winner]] 09:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== More about sysops again ==

When is the 2007 sysop's nomination? And how can I be a sysop? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:See [[User talk:It's dot com/Let's Get Started on Doing All Those Awesome Things I Suggested#How to become a sysop|here]], [[User talk:It's dot com#I want to be a sysop|here]], [[User talk:It's dot com#New sysops|here]], and most importantly [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

== In the future... ==

Hey. In the future please don't edit my page even if it's something like that. Ohhhh, but thank you anyways. I've been wanting to ask you a question. Who do you like more, Mark Texaira or Hank Blalock (Yes it's a Rangers question). I'm a big baseball fan too. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:Sam, fixing technical issues on a userpage (including removing deleted images) is permitted and, indeed, is the right thing to do. So please don't give DC grief over it. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
::Teixeira. Although somebody once gave me a Blalock jersey, and I think he's cool too. I wore the jersey to Yankee Stadium last year the night the Rangers beat the Yankees in the opening game of their series there. Oh, and, in the future, please read [[:Category:HRWiki Policy|all of these]] (especially [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|this part]]) before posting here again. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

== MediaWiki 1.9 ==

You and [[User:Tom|Tom]] are doing an excellent jorb administrating, patching, updating, doctoring, and running our version of MediaWiki (and everything that goes along with it). Thank you so much for your hard work. ^_^{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:52, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, thanks for saying that! And you're welcome. It really is my pleasure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::It's likewise our pleasure to have someone as diligent and thorough as you running this process. You do so much to keep our wiki running both in technical sense and in a community sense. There's no one I'd rather have doing it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Thanks guys. To echo Dot com, it's my pleasure as well. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

==Something's Fishy...==
Hello Dot Com. I have a question. I am aware that the wiki upgraded to 1.9 and something doesn't seem right. In the Recent Changes, there used to be numbers by each change in the wiki showing how many bytes have been added/removed from the page. It is funny, because they do not show up on my computer anymore. Is there a reason for this? Thanks. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
:See his last post in [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_19#And_what.2C_pray_tell.2C__might_those_be.3F|this thread]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks Loaf. I haven't been here for a few days, so I kinda miss some conversations, if you know what I mean. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:38, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

== Welcoming Committee ==

What are those things that appear now when a new account is made? And does this mean we won't need a welcoming committee anymore? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:See [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 6#Welcome Messages|this]] and then [[HRWiki:Da Basement#Automatic links for new users|this]]. The welcoming committee is just as important now as ever, perhaps more, since it requires a little more attentiveness and creativity to make a good welcome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== More unblock ==

Hi, dot com. Can you PLEASE unblock me?? I am sorry for vandalizing the wiki, and I promise I wont do it. again. You don't have to, but I'm only asking nicely. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
:You seem to be able to edit the wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:38, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
::That's NOT what I meant. What I meant about unblocking me is unblocking my IP 24.77.42.48. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 22:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I know what you meant. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::So,      '''DEAL''' or '''NO DEAL'''?
:::::I really can't stand that show. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::Sorry, I find that show kind of annoying too because people always say "DEAL or NO DEAL", I hear it every day. But I'm just asking if you can unblock my IP. I'm editing from a cousin's house. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 00:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I think we've made our position clear in the past. The fact is, we gave you plenty of chances and we're just not ready to give you another one yet. Sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::And now with your {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com&diff=470748&oldid=423770 continued commitment to vandalism}} (please don't try to deny it; I have the logs to prove it), I doubt if we will ever unblock your IP. I also blocked your username, since it's pretty clear that you have no intention of ever contributing positively here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sorry about behaving-like-a-jerkism ==

Umm, hey. I didn't mean to be a jerk about [[Talk:Audio Quality|either]] of [[Talk:The Cheat's Privileges|these]]. And don't feel like I'm being predatory or anything, it happens all the time and I always want to give articles and stuff a chance. I know, it sucks to see your brain child get shot down. Maybe we can make it work. Anyway, I didn't mean to be nasty bow dat. {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 00:31, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

== replacement ==

Hey It's dot com. I was wondering, why did you [[User:It's dot com/replacement|make a subpage]] that is almost identicle to [[replacement]]? And is there any specific reason you chose that email? I'm not telling you to delete it though. I'm just curious. And by the way, I hope what I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=466482 put in the Sandbox] the other day didn't affend you or anything. I just wanted to make up funny ideas for reasons someone would block someone else, and you're like the most important sysop here to me. Eat a Steak! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:That page is for testing a proposed infobox format, one that didn't quite catch on. Feel free to read its [[User talk:It's dot com/replacement|talk page]] for more information. I'm not sure why I picked [[replacement]] (maybe because the infobox would replace the current format? That's kind of a lame guess, but it's the best I've got). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== a comment to it's dot com ==

hey it's dot com, you are awesome. that is all i have to say. [[User:74.245.20.195|74.245.20.195]] 04:03, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks, anonny! Every time that I look at myself, I can't believe how awesome I am. I mean, how awesome I ''aaaaaaaaaaaam...'' Out of curiosity, what prompted you to say so? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
::You are awesome for all you do for the wiki. [[User:74.245.20.195|74.245.20.195]] 22:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Now I'm curious, too! Good old Dot com really keeps the inner workings of the wiki going. But most of his awesomeness would not be visible to a "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=445985 random IP editor]" as you once called yourself ;-) How did you notice? And have you thought about [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|creating an account]]?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I have been here for awhile, I just haven't thought about creating an account. I just see a lot of good things that It's dot com and some other editors do.

== Order! ==

I've been making a lot of revisions to the [[alternate universe]] article lately (as you've probably noticed, seein' as how you're a recent changes junkie, according to your user page), and I've noticed that the Fun Facts aren't in any apparent order. Maybe my subconscious just made this up to confuse me, but don't they go in order according to the portion of the email they refer to, from first to last? Also, I was wondering about the validity of the "Senor Cardgage's legs" goof (in the same email). I can clearly see his right leg past Keyboard Strong Bad, and I'm pretty sure the only reason his left leg isn't visible is because it's obscured by his glove. Perhaps it's a fixed goof...? {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 03:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
:In general, yes, fun facts are supposed to be presented in the order the things they refer to appear in the toon. This is just a guideline, though, so as long as it's kinda close, it doesn't have to be exact. In other words, it's not worth fixing unless it greatly improves the readability of the section. As for your specific comments regarding Senor, I'm not familiar with that. Perhaps try bringing it up on the talk page of the toon. Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. I just thought that while I was asking about the page I'd see what you knew about it. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 04:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

== Randomizer ==

This conversation is copied from the IRC channel and edited to remove lines irrelevant to the point i'm bringing up:
<blockquote>
[2007-07-30 02:31:56] <DeFender1031> hmm.. hrwiki's page randomizer seems to be biased... 
[2007-07-30 02:32:15] <Bluebry> DeFender: a conservative or liberal bias? 
[2007-07-30 02:33:41] <DeFender1031> Bluebry, in other words, there are a lot of pages that i've gotten 10 times and there are a lot i've never gotten 
[2007-07-30 02:34:32] <Phlip> DeFender1031: You'd expect there to be a lot of pages you get 10 times, and some you've never gotten... if you get all of them the exactly same number of times, that would be an anomaly 
[2007-07-30 02:35:32] <DeFender1031> Phlip, but it should be close to the statistical mean, shouldn't it? 
[2007-07-30 02:37:26] <Phlip> hmm... it looks like the randomiser can be biased... 
[2007-07-30 02:37:37] <Phlip> to make it run fast 
[2007-07-30 02:38:38] <Phlip> each page has a random number assigned to it in the DB, which is changed every time the page is edited 
[2007-07-30 02:38:56] <Phlip> Special:Random picks a random number, and picks the page that has the closest number assigned to it 
[2007-07-30 02:39:33] <Phlip> so if the random numbers in the table aren't uniform, which they won't be, then the pages that're in the clumps will be chosen less often. 
[2007-07-30 02:40:26] <DeFender1031> well that's just stupid 
[2007-07-30 02:40:38] <Phlip> but it's much faster than any other method 
[2007-07-30 02:40:58] <DeFender1031> each one should have a number from when it's created, from 1 - 17XX and then the randomizer should pick like that 
[2007-07-30 02:41:12] <Phlip> when your site gets as many hits as WP, probably including a lot of bored users pounding the SP:R button, every speed increase helps 
[2007-07-30 02:41:27] <Phlip> DeFender1031: how would you handle page deletions? 
[2007-07-30 02:42:29] <DeFender1031> Phlip, very simple. when a page is deleted the last numbered page takes on that number instead, and the randomizer max goes down by 1 
[2007-07-30 02:45:15] <DeFender1031> Phlip, here's the thing. all pages get numbered. 1-1769 right? and the randomizer max gets set to 1769. then let's say #537 gets deleted, 1769 becomes 537, and the randmax becomes 1768 
[2007-07-30 02:45:28] <Phlip> hmm... that'd work 
[2007-07-30 02:46:14] <DeFender1031> Phlip, yeah it'd work, i've used that method many times in my own programs and it's the fastest method i've seen/tested. 
[2007-07-30 02:46:23] <Phlip> there'll be some extra SELECT MAX()s in various places... but I don't think they'd slow it down too much 
[2007-07-30 02:46:47] <DeFender1031> Phlip, so why this random value ridiculousness? 
</blockquote>
So now I ask you, why this random value ridiculousness? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:MediaWiki is a wonderful tool, but there are some screwy things about it, and it's not always geared toward smaller wikis. Feel free, however, to bring it up with the main MW developers and see if they'll change it. As for our wiki, the expense of hacking it from the default and maintaining it each time we upgrade outweighs the marginal benefit of doing so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Garr! Every time i suggest a useful improvement you shoot me down. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::That's an unfair generalization. In this case, however, it's just too trivial an issue to worry with changing it on our wiki only. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Here's my input. "Dice have no memory." Each roll of the dice is random; therefore, each outcome could be whatever. You could roll twenty 6's in a row. It's improbable, but it's certainly very possible. The question is, then, if changing the way the randomizer works would effect a real change? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::It's not quite that simple. The way the pages are chosen makes it more likely that—at any one time—certain pages will be favored over others. Suppose we have six pages. Instead of being numbered 1 to 6, each time a page is edited it is assigned a random value between 0 and 1, which are not guaranteed to be uniformly distributed (let's say ours are .01, .40, .67, .68, .69, and .92). Each time a random page is loaded, it selects the lowest value higher than another random value. If it chose .25 as the value, the .40 page would be returned. Under this system, .40 is 39 times more likely than .01 to be returned, and .67 is 27 times more likely than either .68 or .69. On a very large wiki, like Wikipedia, you probably wouldn't notice this. On a smaller wiki, apparently it is noticeable. It's not a perfect system, but it gets the job done well enough not to worry over. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::It's not "well enough". I sometimes do editing by clicking on random and reading the page to see what i can improve. It is annoying when the same page that i just read comes up 15 times without 75% of the other pages on the wiki coming up once. My system is just as fast and is even more efficient. And for the frequency that the wiki upgrades, i don't think it's that big of a deal. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::No, it does work well enough. I clicked on the random page button repeatedly, and it wasn't until the 49th click that I got a page that I'd seen before. Maybe the glitch happens enough to annoy someone looking for something to edit, but it's fine for someone looking for something to read, which is what the link was designed for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I had the chance to discuss this in depth with Phlip and Dot com, and what I learned is that the only way to make the results more balanced than they are now entails a lot more wear and tear on the server. Unfortunately, the way MW is set up this is the best they can do. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::We didn't say it was the best we could do. There are ways to make the distribution even that wouldn't adversely affect the server, but doing so would require rewriting the code and maintaining it later. At this time, there's just no need to do something like that, because the function is already doing the basic job it was designed to do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== Things to Do? ==

Hi again, Dot Com. I haven't been making many important edits to real pages (meaning not user talk pages) recently and I was wondering: Is there anything on the wiki that you or another sysop needs help with? I will try to help out with anything that I can. Sincerely, {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, there's not just a whole lot to do during the baby break. As always, however, you can head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]] for some ideas. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

== You are my parson of the week! ==
[[User:Kanjiro#Person of the week|Yep.]] --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 18:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, thanks! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== Questions and waffles. ==

Why can't I get on the forums? I can't log in because I am inactive and I can't make a new account because my email adress is in use. {{User:Homsar44withpie/sig}} 04:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:I've activated your account. Use it in good health. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

== Yay! ==
You won Person of the Day! {{unsigned|Numa Numa|17:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)}}
:Yay! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

== Autopipe / Autodirect ==

Hey, I was wondering if you'd mind sharing the Autopipe / Autodirect extension you wrote. I just started a MediaWiki wiki of my own, and I'd really like to be able to have page titles starting with lower-case letters without causing a bunch of broken links due to capitalization--the Autopipe / Autodirect extension would be perfect. FWIW, I'll mention on the wiki where I got the extension from...

(If you've seen the post on the forums about this...yeah, that was me; that was before I checked the Talk page of the Autopipe/Autodirect page (can't believe I hadn't thought to check that before) and saw that you wrote the extension, so I figured asking about it on your talk page might be more appropriate...) [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

That Little Chef Guy

Alun Clewe — Thu, 04 May 2006 09:00:40 GMT

Alun Clewe: Corrected typo

[[Image:Little_Chef_Dude_KOT_DVD.PNG|thumb|right|235px|"That guy gives me the creeps, man!"]]
'''The Little Chef Guy''' is [[The King of Town]]'s chef. He appears only in [[The King of Town DVD]], though The King of Town mentions him in the [[King of Town Email]]. [[Strong Bad]] doesn't trust him very much. He is holding a knife, yet has [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible arms]]. When The King of Town calls him in his email he says "That little chef guy."

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[The King of Town DVD]]
*[[King of Town Email]] (mentioned)

[[Category: King's Servants|Little Chef Dude, The]]

senior prom

Alun Clewe — Wed, 03 May 2006 16:55:33 GMT

Alun Clewe: (Correcting a typo)

<table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><tr>
<td>'''Strong Bad Email #151'''</td>
<td align=right><table border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="background:#f2f2f2;border:1px solid #ccc;padding: 5px;font-size:x-small;line-height:100%;border-collapse: collapse;"><tr>
<td style="border-right:1px solid #ccc;">[[HR:kotpoptoon.html|watch]]  </td>
<td style="border-right:1px solid #ccc;">[[alternate universe|← alternate universe]]</td>
<td>[[some kinda robot|some kinda robot →]]</td></tr></table></td>
</tr></table>
[[Image:Senior_prom.PNG|thumb|"Every freakin' year."]]

The King of Town gets his very own popular cartoon show as Strong Bad and his minions plan to crash the senior prom, only to have it backfire on them.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film |Strong Bad}}, {{Film |Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, [[All the King's Men]] ([[The Knight|Knight]], [[The Hornblower|Hornblower]], [[The Blacksmith|Blacksmith]] and {{Film|The Poopsmith}}), {{Film |Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[Nebulon]], {{Film|Pom Pom}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Stage]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Field]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' May 3, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:17

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
''{Open to a shiny red background. A King of Town emblem appears on the screen. As the singers sing, the words "Very Own Popular Cartoon" appear below the KOT head. The KOT head moves to the music a little.}''

'''SINGERS:''' The King of Town's very own quite popular cartoon show!

''{The words "The King of Town's" appear above the KOT emblem.}''

'''SINGERS:''' The King of Town's very own quite popular cartoon show!

''{The word "Quite" is written between "Own" and "Popular", and "Show!!" is inserted after "Cartoon". The music stops.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Let the King have some!

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' ''{quick voiceover as the screen darkens}'' The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week. Instead we bring you: Strong Bad's very popular cartoon show, already in progress.

''{Cut to the Lappy with the email already displayed. We join the scene as Strong Bad says "rong Bad..."}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: prom</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
I was wondering did you ever have a senior prom. 
If so, what was it like? 
Matt M. WA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "walrus association" for WA.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, man! Would you Walrus Association people please leave me alone? I will pay my dues when you send me my tusks! ''{clears screen}'' Anyways, I have personally never had a senior prom, Matt. I have, however, crashed ''{"crashed" is italicized}'' my fair share of Senior Proms, Senor Proms, Homecoming Dances, Shortcoming Prances, and Off-Site Team-Building Pottery Classes. But the best Senior Prom I ever crashed was the 'Entrapment All Up On the Moon' Dance. It all started one day, when I received some very disappointing news...

''{Cuts to the [[Floppy Disk Container]] side of the computer desk with Strong Mad and The Cheat. A cassette tape sits on top of an alarm clock. The message 'an answering machine (trust me)' is taped to the alarm clock.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{feigning disappointment}'' Oh man you guys... I'm totally bummed. Listen to this message I just gooot. ''{puts glove over face and makes a funny voice}'' Hey.. Bunmuffin... It's Deli..lelia. They need me to go back up to Mars to help out that robot that got stuck in the sand. So I won't be able to go to the dance with you. I left you some cold meatloaf under the fridge. ''{stops the voice but continues to feign disappointment}'' Ooh.. That little robot stuck in the sand again. I guess I don't have a date for the dance. ''{normal voice}'' Oh well... Looks like you two losers and me one cool guy will just have to crash the everlovin' style out of it! Now listen close to my masterdly plan!

''{Fades to black and then zooms in on [[All the King's Men|All the King's Men]]'s bass drum. The drum fades out to the band on stage.}''

''{A banner reading "Entrapment All Up On the Moon" is shown, then it pans down to Homestar and Marzipan in formal dress on the gym floor.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh... Don't look now Marzipan, but I think we're the hottest couple at the prom.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, as always, we're the only couple at the prom.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But what about Strong Sad and Deborah?

'''MARZIPAN:''' That is unmistakably Coach Z.

''{Cut to the drink table where Coach Z is pouring Listerine into the punch. Coach Z is wearing a [http://m-w.com/dictionary/dickey dickey] and bow tie and Strong Sad is wearing a space suit.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z... You oughta be ashamed of yourself.

''{Coach Z fumbles the Listerine onto the ground.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' You're supposed to be our chaperone ''{says with a French accent while waving his hand}''

'''COACH Z:''' Are you kiddin'!? I'm just lookin' out for all yer hygienes. Have ya ever talked to one of these kids up close!? Their breath is TERBERILE!

''{Someone turns off the light, plunging the scene into pitch darkness. There is a thud sound and a record scratch. Everyone at the prom gasps.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey! Watch those hands David Coppafeel!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! David!

''{The lights turn back on, revealing Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad in the center seperating Homestar Runner and Marzipan.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right, senior citizens! This prom is officially crashed! Now peep my masterdly plan! I rigged up this button—

''{Cuts to a close up of Strong Bad's hand, which is holding a remote control with a big red button labeled "GO!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —so that when I mash go on it, everybody's pants will POOF AWAY! It's a mass pantsing, see?

''{He presses the button and a buzzer sounds.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What!?

''{With dramatic music, the scene quickly cuts to the pants area of Marzipan, then Coach Z, and then really quickly Homestar Runner, Strong Sad, The Poopsmith, The Blacksmith, The Knight, Strong Mad, The Cheat, before finally stopping on Strong Bad. The camera scrolls up from Strong Bad's pants to his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be kiddin' me!? I'm the only one that wears any pants?

''{Strong Bad's pants poof away, showing white boxers with lipstick kisses on them.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And now to announce your Prom King and Queen! This year's Prom King is... Pom Pom ''{applause}''

''{Cut to an area of the gymnasium that features the banner and cut-out forms of [[Nebulon]] and [[The Moon]].}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{spoken words appear onscreen}'' Accepting the award for Pom Pom is Homestar Runner because Pom Pom's at a much cooler private school prom.

''{Homestar walks out wearing a crown and then takes a swig of Listerine and starts gargling, sounding exactly like Pom Pom.}''

'''VOICEOVER:''' And your Prom Queen is... ''{cut to an excited Marzipan}'' Strong Bad with no pants on! ''{applause}''

''{Cut back to Homestar. Pant-less Strong Bad walks in from the left wearing a tiara and holding seven roses.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh thank you so much! ''{applause}'' You people are a sweet delight! Just one big almond paste filled sweet delight!

''{Homestar leans forward, kicking his foot backwards. Cut back to an angry Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Every freakin' year. ''{blows her bangs up with her breath}''

'''THE POOPSMITH:''' ''{possibly; offscreen}'' Ohhhh, yeah!

''{Marzipan looks surprised, it then cuts to the rest of the gym, who all gasp. Then it cuts to the Poopsmith who shakes his head and shrugs his shoulders. Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And the best part is that I got a twenty dollar gift certificate to the All-You-Can-Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria. Man, I ate my weight in creamed fish and okratinis. Alright, I gotta get outta here. I'm taking Delilelia to see David Coppafeel perform. ''{gets up and leaves}''

''{Cut to a shot of the whole computer desk with Strong Bad standing to the side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hurk! ''{jumps offscreen}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==

*Click on WA when Strong Bad says "Walrus Association" to see a business card for the Walrus Association:
<blockquote>Matt M. 
Walrus Association 
 
Phone: 555-TUSQ 
Mobile: GIMME A WEEK OR SO 
 
"Koo koo ka-choo or summat"</blockquote>
*Click on "senor prom" to see a photo of an ice sculpture of Senor Cardgage. It has "senor prom 95'" written on it.
*At the end, click on "Delilelia" to see the actual beginning of the email.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing''} Can you see that I've got email styles, c'mon c'mon, can you see that I've got email styles? Dear Str-
*Click on "Coppafeel" at the end to see a conversation with Homestar Runner and Pom Pom.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, man. My pants got so poofed away at the prom this year. So I was wearing all these types of long pants, and they just got poofed away. So embarrasing.
:'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well maybe I will keep telling myself that!

==Fun Facts==

===Trivia===

*The filename for the HTML page is not the expected "sbemail151", but rather "kotpoptoon".
**However, the filename for the SWF Flash file is the expected "sbemail151.swf".
**To add to the illusion, the note on the main page said "King of Town Toon!"
**This is because of a prank played by the Brothers Chaps. The email was announced on the main page as a new toon.
*This is the first time we see The Cheat with his arms folded.
*The [[Floppy Disk Container|Floppy Disk Container]] says ''Broderbund Classics''.

===Remarks===

*Strong Bad is wearing boxer shorts when his pants poof off. However, in [[New Boots]], he claims he doesn't wear underwear.
*Since an okratini is a drink, Strong Bad could not have ''eaten'' his weight in them.
*When Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat arrive at the prom, Homestar doesn't stop dancing, even though he and Marzipan have been separated.

===Inside References===

*The lipstick pattern on Strong Bad's shorts is the same as the one in [[video games]].
*"Senor proms" is a reference to the common [[Senor|mispronunciation]] of Señor.
*Coach Z drinking Listerine is a reference to [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].
*[[The Moon]] on the banner is the same moon from [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]].
*This is another reference to [[Homestar's Pants]].
*The "Walrus Association" Easter egg is a reference to the "Certified Arborist" Easter egg from [[other days]].
*The robot on Mars is a reference to [[autobiography]].
*"Mashing go" on something is seen in [[Everybody Knows It]], [[flashback]], and [[alternate universe]].
*This is another reference to [[Robots|robots]].
*The name of the dance is "Entrapment [[All up ons|All Up On]] the Moon".
*The voice of the announcer for the Prom King & Queen is the same voice as the radio host in [[sibbie]].

===Real-World References===

*[[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield]] is a popular illusionist.
*'Entrapment All Up On the Moon' dance and the outfits worn by the band are a reference to the "Enchantment Under the Sea Dance" from the [[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]] trilogy of movies.
*The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" on the business card in the easter egg refers to the song [[Wikipedia:I Am the Walrus|I Am the Walrus]] by [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]].
*An "[http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0308c&L=ads-l&D=1&F=&S=&P=6102 okratini]" is a martini served with a pickled [[Wikipedia:Okra|okra]] pod instead of an olive.

==External Links==

*[[HR:kotpoptoon.html|watch "senior prom"]]
*[[HR:sbemail151.swf|view the Flash file for "senior prom"]]
*[[Forum:8142|forum thread re: "senior prom"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

senior prom

Alun Clewe — Wed, 03 May 2006 13:43:26 GMT

Alun Clewe: The man says "Very Own Popular", not "Very Unpopular"

<table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><tr>
<td>'''Strong Bad Email #151'''</td>
<td align=right><table border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="background:#f2f2f2;border:1px solid #ccc;padding: 5px;font-size:x-small;line-height:100%;border-collapse: collapse;"><tr>
<td style="border-right:1px solid #ccc;">[[HR:kotpoptoon.html|watch]]  </td>
<td style="border-right:1px solid #ccc;">[[alternate universe|← alternate universe]]</td>
<td>[[some kinda robot|some kinda robot →]]</td></tr></table></td>
</tr></table><noinclude> [[Image:Senior_prom.PNG|thumb|Thank you! Thank you!]]

<s>The KOT gets his very own show!</s> Strong Bad and his minions plan to crash the senior prom, only to have it backfire on them.

'''Cast (in order of apperance):''' {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film |Strong Bad}}, {{Film |Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, [[all_the_king%27s_men|All the King's Men]] ([[The Knight|Knight]], [[The Hornblower|Hornblower]], [[The Blacksmith|Blacksmith]] and {{Film|The Poopsmith}}), {{Film |Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[Nebulon]], {{Film|Pom Pom}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Stage]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Field]] (Easter egg)

==Transcript==
''{Open to a shiny red background. A King of Town emblem appears on the screen. As the singers sing, the words "Very Own Popular Cartoon" appear below the KOT head. The KOT head moves to the music a little.}''

'''SINGERS:''' The King of Town's very own quite popular cartoon show!

''{The words "The King of Town's" appear above the KOT emblem.}''

'''SIGNERS:''' The King of Town's very own quite popular cartoon show!

''{The word "Quite" is written between "Own" and "Popular", and "Show!!" is inserted after "Cartoon". The music stops.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Let the King have some!

'''MAN:''' ''{quickly}'' The King of Town's Very Own Popular Cartoon Show will not be seen this week. Instead we bring you, Strong Bad's very popular cartoon show. Already in progress.

''{Cut to the Lappy with the email already displayed. Because the show is in progress, Strong Bad says "rong Bad..."}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: prom</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
I was wondering did you ever have a senior prom. 
If so, what was it like? 
Matt M. WA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "walrus association" for WA.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, man! Would you Walrus Association people please leave me alone? I will pay my dues when you send me my tusks! ''{clears screen}'' Anyways, I have personally never had a senior prom, Matt. I have, however, crashed ''{"crashed" is italicized}'' my fair share of Senior Proms, Senor Proms, Homecoming Dances, Shortcoming Prances, and Off-Site Team-Building Pottery Classes. But the best Senior Prom I ever crashed was the 'Entrapment All Up On the Moon' Dance. It all started one day, when I received some very disappointing news...

''{Cuts to the [[Floppy Disk Container]] side of the computer desk with Strong Mad and The Cheat. A casette tape sits on top of an alarm clock. The message 'an answering machine (trust me)' is taped to the alarm clock.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{feigning dissappointment}'' Oh man you guys... I'm totally bummed. Listen to this message I just gooot. ''{puts glove over face and makes a funny voice}'' Hey.. Bunmuffin... It's Eli..lilia. They need me to go back up to Mars to help out that robot that got stuck in the sand. So I won't be able to go to the dance with you. I left you some cold meatloaf under the fridge. ''{stops the voice but continues to fein disappointment}'' Ooh.. That little robot stuck in the sand again. I guess I don't have a date for the dance. ''{normal voice}'' Oh well... Looks like you two loosers and me one cool guy will just have to crash the everlovin' style out of it! Now listen close to my masterdly plan!

''{Fades to black and then zooms in on [[all_the_king%27s_men|All the King's Men]]'s bass drum. The drum fades out to the band on stage.}''

''{A banner reading "Entrapment All Up On the Moon" is shown, then it pans down to Homestar and Marzipan in formal dress on the gym floor.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh.. Don't look now Marzipan, but I think we're the hottest couple at the prom.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, as always, we're the only couple at the prom.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But what about Strong Sad and Deborah?

'''MARZIPAN:''' That is unmistakeably Coach Z.

''{Cut to the drink table where Coach Z is pouring Listerine into the punch. Coach Z is wearing a tux thing and Strong Sad is wearing a space suit.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z... You oughta be ashamed of yourself.

''{Coach Z fumbles the Listerine onto the ground.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' You're supposed to be our chaparone ''{says with a French accent while waving his hand}''

'''COACH Z:''' Are you kiddin'!? I'm just lookin' out for all yer hygenes. Have ya ever talked to one of these kids up close!? Their breath is TERBERILE!

''{Screen abrubtly turns black there is a thud sound and a record scratch. Everyone at the prom gasps.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey! Watch those hands David Coppafeel!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! David!

{fades back to the prom with Strong Bad, Strong Mad and the Cheat in the center}

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right, senior citizens! This prom is officially crashed! Now peep my masterdly plan! I ripped off this button ''{Cuts to show Strong Bad's hand holding a remote control with a big red button labled 'GO!'}'' so that when I mash go on it, everybody's pants will POOF AWAY! It's a mass pantsing, see?
{presses button, a buzzer sounds}

'''THE CHEAT:''' {The Cheat noises}

'''STRONG BAD:''' What!?

{cuts to everyone's pants area, ending on Strong Bad's pants. The only pants of the bunch.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be kiddin' me!? I'm the only one that wears any pants? {pants poof away, showing white boxers with lipstick kisses on them}

'''VOICEOVER:''' And now to announce your Prom King and Queen! This year's Prom King is... Pom Pom ''{applause}''

''{cut to [[Nebulon]] and the moon, in cut-out form}''

'''VOICEOVER:''' Accepting the award for Pom Pom is Homestar Runner because Pom Pom's at a much cooler private school prom. ''{The words appear at the bottom of the screen.}''

''{Homestar walks out wearing a crown and then takes a swig of Listerine and starts gargling.}''

'''VOICEOVER:''' And your Prom Queen is... {cut to Marzipan} Strong Bad with no pants on! {applause}

''{Cut back to Homestar. Strong Bad walks in from the left wearing a tiara and holding seven roses}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh thank you so much! ''{applause}'' You people are a sweet delight! Just one big almond paste filled sweet delight! ''{Homestar leans forward, kicking his foot backwards.}''

{cut to Marzipan}

'''MARZIPAN:''' Every freakin' year. ''{Blows her bangs up with her breath}''

'''VOICEOVER:''' ''{deeply}'' Oooh Yeah!

''{Marzipan looks surprised, it then cuts to the rest of the gym, who all gasp. Then it cuts to the Poopsmith who shakes his head and shrugs his sholders}''

''{Cuts back to Strong Bad at the lappy, typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And the best part is that I got a twenty dollar gift certificate to the All-You-Can-Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria. Man, I ate my weight in creamed fish and okratinis. Alright, I gotta get outta here. I'm taking Delilelia to see David Coppafeel perform. ''{gets up and leaves}''

''{Pans out to see the whole computer desk with Strong Bad standing to the side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hurk! ''{jumps offscreen}''

{cuts back to the Lappy and the paper comes down}

==Easter Eggs==

*Click on WA when Strong Bad says "Walrus Association" to see a business card for the Walrus Association:
<blockquote>Matt M. 
Walrus Association 
 
Phone: 555-TUSQ 
Mobile: GIMME A WEEK OR SO 
 
"Koo koo ka-choo or summat"</blockquote>
*Click on "senor prom" to see a photo of an ice sculpture of Senor Cardgage. It has "senor prom 95'" written on it.
*At the end, click on "Delilelia" to see the actual beginning of the email.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing''} Can you see that I've got email styles, c'mon c'mon, can you see that I've got email styles? Dear Str-
*Click on "Coppafeel" at the end to see a conversation with Homestar Runner and Pom Pom.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, man. My pants got so poofed away at the prom this year. So I was wearing all these types of long pants, and they just got poofed away. So embarrasing.
:'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well maybe I will keep telling myself that!

==Fun Facts==

===Trivia===

*The filename for the HTML page is not the expected "sbemail151", but rather "kotpoptoon".
**However, the filename for the SWF Flash file is the expected "sbemail151.swf".
**To add to the illusion, the note on the main page said "King of Town Toon!"
**This is because of a prank played by the Brothers Chaps. The email was announced on the main page as a new toon.
*This is the first time we see The Cheat with his arms folded.

===Remarks===

*Strong Bad is wearing boxer shorts when his pants poof off. However, in [[New Boots]], he claims he doesn't wear underwear.

===Inside References===

*The lipstick pattern on Strong Bad's shorts is the same as the one in [[video games]].
*"Senor proms" is a reference to the common [[Senor|mispronunciation]] of Señor.
*Coach Z drinking Listerine is a reference to [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].
*The moon on the banner is the same moon from [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]].
*This is another reference to [[Homestar's Pants]].
*The "Walrus Association" Easter egg is a reference to the "Certified Arborist" Easter egg from [[other days]].
*The robot on Mars is a reference to [[autobiography]].
*This is another reference to [[Robots|robots]].

===Real-World References===

*[[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield]] is a popular illusionist.
*'Entrapment All Up On the Moon' dance is a reference to the "Enchantment Under the Sea Dance" from the [[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]] trilogy of movies.
*The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" on the business card in the easter egg refers to the song [[Wikipedia:I Am the Walrus|I Am the Walrus]] by [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]].
*An "okratini" is a martini served with a pickled [[Wikipedia:Okra|okra]] pod instead of an olive.

==External Links==

*[[HR:kotpoptoon.html|Watch 'senior prom']]
*[[HR:sbemail151.swf|View the Flash file]]
*[[Forum:8142|forum thread re: "senior prom"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Thy Dungeonman II

Alun Clewe — Tue, 02 May 2006 07:24:18 GMT

Alun Clewe: Added a few remarks and alternate commands

{{vgamenav|thydungeonman2|Pigs on Head|50K Racewalker}}

[[Image:Thy_Dung_Two.PNG|thumb|right|220px|More text means more adventure!!]]
[[Image:thydungeonman2box.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Loincloth Larry]]

In '''Thy Dungeonman II''' you play the same custodial knight trying to escape from the usual collection of tunnels, mazes, monsters and puzzles. The game is made by [[Videlectrix]] as the sequel to [[Thy Dungeonman]]. In turn, this game has its own sequel, [[Thy Dungeonman 3]].

'''Page Title:''' Comes with 3 volume set of Thy Encyclopedias and Reference Guide!

'''Date:''' April 24, 2004

== Commands ==
=== Main Commands ===
*north or n
*south or s
*east or e
*west or w
*help
*inventory or inv
*self
*look or where

=== Other Commands ===
*close drawer (office after opening drawer)
*dan
*dance
*dennis
*die
*east (in chef's prepatory room)
*eat vegetables (in chef's prepatory room, before and after visiting infirmary)
*get (ye) flask
*get _ (anything except flask and dagger)
*get bread or eat bread (before getting hay)
*get chamber pot (after "get tinkle")
*get dagger
*get map (in cell)
*get map (in chef's prepatory room)
*get map in the office before unlocking the drawer
*get placard (before and after getting picture)
*give _ (any item)
*go ____ (anything will do)
*hold breath or plug nose or hold nose
*hold nose, then talk percy (with Percy)
*kick chamber pot or throw chamber pot
*kill chef (in chef's prepatory room)
*listen to ratt [sic] (with Percy)
*look (at) picture (before and after getting it)
*look cloth
*look key
*look paintings (in magistrate's office)
*look sucker
*mop stain or mop
*open drawer (after using key)
*put on cloth
*[[pwd]]
*release nose or unplug nose or breathe or smell
*search hay or take hay (after you have already done so)
*sniff (try it with and without nose held)
*take drawer (in magistrate's office)
*take foot (after "take drawer")
*take off cloth ''or'' drop cloth
*take placard (in magistrate's office)
*talk (to) rat (with Percy)
*try going a direction in the hallway that is not listed
*try going a direction in the maze that is not listed
*use key (after getting map)
*use picture, then get mop (fighting dongrel)
*west (in hallway)

== Point Values ==
*asking doctor about craftsman tools +1
*die -100
*eating bread +5 (only award points first time)
*get ye flask 3 times +2 and each time after that +2
*getting into maze +5
*getting map +5
*getting past Ripberger +5
*getting picture +3
*getting the drawer key +5
*killing dongrel +10
*killing Hongrels +2
*killing Longrels +1
*killing Mongrels +3
*killing percy +10
*leaving maze +5
*looking at david bowie +2
*mopping a stain +1
*take hay +5
*talking to saw doctor +5

== Ways to Lose the Game ==

* Get fired. (Hang around in the south area too long.)
* Die.
**Get killed by a monster
**Type die
**Die by plague
**Hold your breath too long
**Lose all hitpoints
**Tell the doctor "yes"
**"Talk healer" and die of endless questioning.

== Map ==
<code>
Ktcn--Infm
|
+
|
(M) +----(M) +----(L)
| | |
(H)---(M)----+-----+----(M)----+
| | | N
+ (H) + NW | NE
| \ | /
+ W -- C -- E
| / | \
+----(M) (H) SW | SE
| | | S
(M) +----(M)---Maze--(L) Compass
|
Prcy
|
Cell---+
|
Offc
</code>

Key:
*'''Cell''' - The Cell (where you start)
*'''Offc''' - The Magistrate's Office
*'''Prcy''' - Where you first meet Percy the rat
*'''Maze''' - The beginning of the maze, and where you find the mop
*'''Ktcn''' - Kitchen
*'''Infm''' - Infirmary
*'''(H)''' - Hongrel
*'''(L)''' - Longrel
*'''(M)''' - Mongrel
*'''(+)''' - Room

== Hints and Tips ==
* When talking to Ripberger, just use "talk ripberger" or "talk magistrate" in lowercase letters. Otherwise, the game may not recognize the command.
* Type "look map" at any time to view the map. note that you must ALREADY have the map before you can look at it.
* When fighting monsters in the maze, use the attack that starts with that monster's name. Therefore...
** Strike Longrels Low
** Strike Hongrels High
** Strike Mongrels Middlin

== Walkthrough ==

{{spoiler}}

After giving your name at the beginning, type "hold breath" (or "nose") and "get tinkle" (or "metal"), which is a key in the chamber pot. ("reach into chamberpot" also works.) Don't forget to BREATHE. Type "breathe", "release nose", "unplug nose", "let go nose" or "smell".

"get hay", which turns out to be moldy bread.

"open door" and go "south".

"look at david bowie" (optional).

"use key" to unlock the drawer.

"get map". "look map" to get the maze directions. It disintegrates, so you'll have to write them down.

Go "north" and "talk magistrate".

Go "north", where you'll find a rat with a nametag. "look at nametag" (his name is Percy) and "talk to percy". He'll offer you the plague.

Go "north", and you'll get the plague (this can't be avoided).

"get mop", as you will need it to fight off monsters.

Now follow the directions from the map (see above). If you'd like, you can stop to "mop" when you see stains (there's a stain in every room of the maze). This is completely optional, and you only earn "experience points" from doing this (which do not add to your point total.) (Note: If you "mop stain" in a room where you've already cleaned the stain, you leave a new stain behind thanks to your "increasingly soiled mop".)

To kill the monsters use the strike with the same letter as the beginning of the monster's name (eg. "middlin" for Mongrel, "high" for Hongrel, and "low" for Longrel).

When you get to the kitchen, go "eastward" (you can't just type "east" or "e" here) to the infirmary.

"talk to doctor". Say "no" when he asks if you can wait. He'll saw off your plague, give you a sucker, and send you back to the kitchen. Do not talk to the healer; the doctor and the healer are separate entities.

"look at placard".

"get picture".

"talk to chef". He is really a Dongrel. "use picture" or "use sucker" to make Dongrel drop your mop, then "get mop" and "use mop" (if you never "talk to chef", you can skip straight to "use mop" and avoid losing 1 life).

"take emerald". Percy will show up. "take off loincloth", "remove loincloth", or "give loincloth" to kill him.

Note: On some browsers it is impossible to get the emerald, things will happen too fast.

You win and IT'S OVER!!

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The second-to-last letter in "Auguft" is supposed to be a [[Wikipedia:long s|long s]] ("ſ"), which resembles a lowercase "f".

===Trivia===
*The [[Fonts|font]] used in this game is called "Sydnie."

===Remarks===
*The map is not necessary to win the game, and therefore neither is the key. It's possible to beat the game without ever taking the key from the chamber pot or entering Ripberger's office (though you'll have a low score.)
*Although the map disintegrates the first time you look at it, you can still "look map" after that to recall the map from your "parchmentic memory". You don't remember the last two moves, but since there was only one choice of direction in each of the last two rooms that doesn't really matter.

===Glitches===
* Every time you type "get ye flask," you earn 2 points, regardless of whether or not you've already gotten yeself a flask.
* When you go north from the office, you are given the description of the office, but are really in the hallway as expected.
* The map you get in the game is slightly incorrect. The direction listed in bold has been left out: "West, West, North, West, North, North, '''North,''' East, East, North, East, North, North." (The map shown below is correct.)
* If you die, when you're asked "Play Again? [Y/N]", pressing N doesn't do anything.
* If you type "south" or "s" after the magistrate goes into his office, it will show a different response right after the normal one.
* If you "take off loincloth" or "remove loincloth" before you are supposed to, the game will play as if you are still wearing it (i.e. you still stuff things into it, and Ripberger doesn't mention you being naked).

===Inside References===
*This game is a sequel of [[Thy Dungeonman]], introduced in the Strong Bad Email [[video games]].

===Real-World References===
*If you "look david bowie" in the the magistrate's office, the game replies: "There's something about that man... The picture was taken during the Tin Machine era. Thou art more of a Ziggy Stardust fan."
**[[Wikipedia:David_Bowie|David Bowie]] is a famous English rock artist whose career has spanned from the '60s to the present.
**Tin Machine was a four-piece rock band he formed from 1989 to 1992. Bowie dressed in suits and wore a mustache and beard.
**Ziggy Stardust was an androgynous character David Bowie invented and performed as for his classic 1972 album, ''[[Wikipedia:The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars|The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars]]''. Bowie wore wild, Japan-influenced outfits and the wild red hair that Strong Sad [[Halloween_Fairstival_Costumes|wears]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Nutella is a real food made of hazelnut and chocolate. Nutella is meant to be used as a dip or food spread.
*When you enter your name, one of the things the game calls your name is "scrumtriliescent", which is a reference to Saturday Night Live's spoof of Inside the Actors' studio, wherein James Lipton (Will Ferrell) says "That show was delightful. No. No. It was brilliant. No, no, no, no. There is no word to describe its perfection, so I am forced to make one up. And I'm going to do so right now. Scrumtrilescent."
*Ripburger is also the name of a character from the [[Wikipedia:lucasarts|Lucasarts]] game [[Wikipedia:Full Throttle|Full Throttle]].
*The Enchantment under the Parapets dance may be a reference to the "Enchantment Under the Sea" dance in [[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]].

===Fast Forward===
*[[Ripberger]] becomes the name of a [[Cheat Commandos|Cheat Commando]].

== External Links ==
*[[Videlectrix:thydungeonman2.html|Play Thy Dungeonman II]]
*[[Videlectrix:dungeonman2.swf|Play Thy Dungeonman II (Flash file)]]
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Thy Dungeonman II

Alun Clewe — Tue, 02 May 2006 06:54:29 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Walkthrough */

{{vgamenav|thydungeonman2|Pigs on Head|50K Racewalker}}

[[Image:Thy_Dung_Two.PNG|thumb|right|220px|More text means more adventure!!]]
[[Image:thydungeonman2box.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Loincloth Larry]]

In '''Thy Dungeonman II''' you play the same custodial knight trying to escape from the usual collection of tunnels, mazes, monsters and puzzles. The game is made by [[Videlectrix]] as the sequel to [[Thy Dungeonman]]. In turn, this game has its own sequel, [[Thy Dungeonman 3]].

'''Page Title:''' Comes with 3 volume set of Thy Encyclopedias and Reference Guide!

'''Date:''' April 24, 2004

== Commands ==
=== Main Commands ===
*north or n
*south or s
*east or e
*west or w
*help
*inventory or inv
*self
*look or where

=== Other Commands ===
*close drawer (office after opening drawer)
*dan
*dance
*dennis
*die
*east (in chef's prepatory room)
*eat vegetables (in chef's prepatory room, before and after visiting infirmary)
*get (ye) flask
*get _ (anything except flask and dagger)
*get bread or eat bread (before getting hay)
*get chamber pot (after "get tinkle")
*get dagger
*get map (in cell)
*get map (in chef's prepatory room)
*get map in the office before unlocking the drawer
*get placard (before and after getting picture)
*give _ (any item)
*go ____ (anything will do)
*hold breath or plug nose or hold nose
*hold nose, then talk percy (with Percy)
*kick chamber pot or throw chamber pot
*kill chef (in chef's prepatory room)
*listen to ratt [sic] (with Percy)
*look (at) picture (before and after getting it)
*look cloth
*look key
*look paintings (in magistrate's office)
*look sucker
*mop stain or mop
*open drawer (after using key)
*put on cloth
*[[pwd]]
*release nose or unplug nose or breathe or smell
*search hay or take hay (after you have already done so)
*sniff (try it with and without nose held)
*take drawer (in magistrate's office)
*take foot (after "take drawer")
*take off cloth ''or'' drop cloth
*take placard (in magistrate's office)
*talk (to) rat (with Percy)
*try going a direction in the hallway that is not listed
*try going a direction in the maze that is not listed
*use key (after getting map)
*use picture, then get mop (fighting dongrel)
*west (in hallway)

== Point Values ==
*asking doctor about craftsman tools +1
*die -100
*eating bread +5 (only award points first time)
*get ye flask 3 times +2 and each time after that +2
*getting into maze +5
*getting map +5
*getting past Ripberger +5
*getting picture +3
*getting the drawer key +5
*killing dongrel +10
*killing Hongrels +2
*killing Longrels +1
*killing Mongrels +3
*killing percy +10
*leaving maze +5
*looking at david bowie +2
*mopping a stain +1
*take hay +5
*talking to saw doctor +5

== Ways to Lose the Game ==

* Get fired. (Hang around in the south area too long.)
* Die.
**Get killed by a monster
**Type die
**Die by plague
**Hold your breath too long
**Lose all hitpoints
**Tell the doctor "yes"
**"Talk healer" and die of endless questioning.

== Map ==
<code>
Ktcn--Infm
|
+
|
(M) +----(M) +----(L)
| | |
(H)---(M)----+-----+----(M)----+
| | | N
+ (H) + NW | NE
| \ | /
+ W -- C -- E
| / | \
+----(M) (H) SW | SE
| | | S
(M) +----(M)---Maze--(L) Compass
|
Prcy
|
Cell---+
|
Offc
</code>

Key:
*'''Cell''' - The Cell (where you start)
*'''Offc''' - The Magistrate's Office
*'''Prcy''' - Where you first meet Percy the rat
*'''Maze''' - The beginning of the maze, and where you find the mop
*'''Ktcn''' - Kitchen
*'''Infm''' - Infirmary
*'''(H)''' - Hongrel
*'''(L)''' - Longrel
*'''(M)''' - Mongrel
*'''(+)''' - Room

== Hints and Tips ==
* When talking to Ripberger, just use "talk ripberger" or "talk magistrate" in lowercase letters. Otherwise, the game may not recognize the command.
* Type "look map" at any time to view the map. note that you must ALREADY have the map before you can look at it.
* When fighting monsters in the maze, use the attack that starts with that monster's name. Therefore...
** Strike Longrels Low
** Strike Hongrels High
** Strike Mongrels Middlin

== Walkthrough ==

{{spoiler}}

After giving your name at the beginning, type "hold breath" (or "nose") and "get tinkle" (or "metal"), which is a key in the chamber pot. ("reach into chamberpot" also works.) Don't forget to BREATHE. Type "breathe" or "release nose" or "unplug nose" or "let go nose" or "smell".

"get hay", which turns out to be moldy bread.

"open door" and go "south".

"look at david bowie" (optional).

"use key" to unlock the drawer.

"get map". "look map" to get the maze directions. It disintegrates, so you'll have to write them down.

Go "north" and "talk magistrate".

Go "north", where you'll find a rat with a nametag. "look at nametag" (his name is Percy) and "talk to percy". He'll offer you the plague.

Go "north", and you'll get the plague (this can't be avoided).

"get mop", as you will need it to fight off monsters.

Now follow the directions from the map (see above). If you'd like, you can stop to "mop" when you see stains (there's a stain in every room of the maze). This is completely optional, and you only earn "experience points" from doing this (which do not add to your point total.)

To kill the monsters use the strike with the same letter as the beginning of the monster's name (eg. "middlin" for Mongrel, "high" for Hongrel, and "low" for Longrel).

When you get to the kitchen, go "eastward" (you can't just type "east" or "e" here) to the infirmary.

"talk to doctor". Say "no" when he asks if you can wait. He'll saw off your plague, give you a sucker, and send you back to the kitchen. Do not talk to the healer; the doctor and the healer are separate entities.

"look at placard".

"get picture".

"talk to chef". He is really a Dongrel. "use picture" or "use sucker" to make Dongrel drop your mop, then "get mop" and "use mop" (if you never "talk to chef", you can skip straight to "use mop" and avoid losing 1 life).

"take emerald". Percy will show up. "take off loincloth" or "give loincloth" to kill him.

Note: On some browsers it is impossible to get the emerald, things will happen too fast.

You win and IT'S OVER!!

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The second-to-last letter in "Auguft" is supposed to be a [[Wikipedia:long s|long s]] ("ſ"), which resembles a lowercase "f".

===Trivia===
*The [[Fonts|font]] used in this game is called "Sydnie."

===Glitches===
* Every time you type "get ye flask," you earn 2 points, regardless of whether or not you've already gotten yeself a flask.
* When you go north from the office, you are given the description of the office, but are really in the hallway as expected.
* The map you get in the game is slightly incorrect. The direction listed in bold has been left out: "West, West, North, West, North, North, '''North,''' East, East, North, East, North, North." (The map shown below is correct.)
* If you die, when you're asked "Play Again? [Y/N]", pressing N doesn't do anything.
* If you type "south" or "s" after the magistrate goes into his office, it will show a different response right after the normal one.
* If you "take off loincloth" before you are supposed to, the game will play as if you are still wearing it (i.e. you still stuff things into it, and Ripberger doesn't mention you being naked).

===Inside References===
*This game is a sequel of [[Thy Dungeonman]], introduced in the Strong Bad Email [[video games]].

===Real-World References===
*If you "look david bowie" in the the magistrate's office, the game replies: "There's something about that man... The picture was taken during the Tin Machine era. Thou art more of a Ziggy Stardust fan."
**[[Wikipedia:David_Bowie|David Bowie]] is a famous English rock artist whose career has spanned from the '60s to the present.
**Tin Machine was a four-piece rock band he formed from 1989 to 1992. Bowie dressed in suits and wore a mustache and beard.
**Ziggy Stardust was an androgynous character David Bowie invented and performed as for his classic 1972 album, ''[[Wikipedia:The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars|The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars]]''. Bowie wore wild, Japan-influenced outfits and the wild red hair that Strong Sad [[Halloween_Fairstival_Costumes|wears]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Nutella is a real food made of hazelnut and chocolate. Nutella is meant to be used as a dip or food spread.
*When you enter your name, one of the things the game calls your name is "scrumtriliescent", which is a reference to Saturday Night Live's spoof of Inside the Actors' studio, wherein James Lipton (Will Ferrell) says "That show was delightful. No. No. It was brilliant. No, no, no, no. There is no word to describe its perfection, so I am forced to make one up. And I'm going to do so right now. Scrumtrilescent."
*Ripburger is also the name of a character from the [[Wikipedia:lucasarts|Lucasarts]] game [[Wikipedia:Full Throttle|Full Throttle]].
*The Enchantment under the Parapets dance may be a reference to the "Enchantment Under the Sea" dance in [[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]].

===Fast Forward===
*[[Ripberger]] becomes the name of a [[Cheat Commandos|Cheat Commando]].

== External Links ==
*[[Videlectrix:thydungeonman2.html|Play Thy Dungeonman II]]
*[[Videlectrix:dungeonman2.swf|Play Thy Dungeonman II (Flash file)]]
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[[Category:Thy Dungeonman|2]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Alun Clewe — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:40:40 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Pamcakes and Pimecones */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts.

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Assuming the referrence can be confirmed, shouldn't this be placed on the Sightings page? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' Listen, people, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but just because you hear something in a movie then on something else doesn't automatically mean it's a reference, unless the movie says something that hasn't been said before. Like, if Strong Bad says "a little bit of the old ultraviolence", That would be a reference to A Clockwork Orange since that was basically the first popular movie to say that, but what if he said a phrase that has been used for decades and just happened to be in some popular movie, that doesn't make it a reference, okay? [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*<s>'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)</s>
**After reading all the arguments, I am changing my vote to a '''Decline'''. Animated or not, it is stiull just a prop and is just as unimportant. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Might I quote the national anthem? "The people are so great, but really there's only me, and that means I'm so great, and also there's the Cheat." --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Alun Clewe — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:31:56 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* those weird little kids */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts.

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Assuming the referrence can be confirmed, shouldn't this be placed on the Sightings page? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' Listen, people, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but just because you hear something in a movie then on something else doesn't automatically mean it's a reference, unless the movie says something that hasn't been said before. Like, if Strong Bad says "a little bit of the old ultraviolence", That would be a reference to A Clockwork Orange since that was basically the first popular movie to say that, but what if he said a phrase that has been used for decades and just happened to be in some popular movie, that doesn't make it a reference, okay? [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*<s>'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)</s>
**After reading all the arguments, I am changing my vote to a '''Decline'''. Animated or not, it is stiull just a prop and is just as unimportant. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Might I quote the national anthem? "The people are so great, but really there's only me, and that means I'm so great, and also there's the Cheat." --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Alun Clewe — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:29:55 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* Clanky? */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts.

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Assuming the referrence can be confirmed, shouldn't this be placed on the Sightings page? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' Listen, people, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but just because you hear something in a movie then on something else doesn't automatically mean it's a reference, unless the movie says something that hasn't been said before. Like, if Strong Bad says "a little bit of the old ultraviolence", That would be a reference to A Clockwork Orange since that was basically the first popular movie to say that, but what if he said a phrase that has been used for decades and just happened to be in some popular movie, that doesn't make it a reference, okay? [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*<s>'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)</s>
**After reading all the arguments, I am changing my vote to a '''Decline'''. Animated or not, it is stiull just a prop and is just as unimportant. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Might I quote the national anthem? "The people are so great, but really there's only me, and that means I'm so great, and also there's the Cheat." --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Alun Clewe — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:53:14 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* The Number 423,827 */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that un-confirmed fact like this gets stuffed but crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could be deleted without any fuss or voting.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Assuming the referrence can be confirmed, shouldn't this be placed on the Sightings page? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Alun Clewe — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:44:52 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* German Radio? */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that un-confirmed fact like this gets stuffed but crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could be deleted without any fuss or voting.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Assuming the referrence can be confirmed, shouldn't this be placed on the Sightings page? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Alun Clewe — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:39:31 GMT

Alun Clewe: /* See you in syndication */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[long pants]]===
====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====

Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that un-confirmed fact like this gets stuffed but crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could be deleted without any fuss or voting.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)

*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

*'''Weak Decline''' At first, I wanted to be sure that the episode in question aired before [[crazy cartoon]], but as it turns out, the quote isn't precise ("I'll get you, Eh! Steve!" is the actual phrase). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:06, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Assuming the referrence can be confirmed, shouldn't this be placed on the Sightings page? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**I did check TVTome.com, and the episode in question DID air before "crazy cartoon". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Major Decline''' It's likely that the Bros. Chaps watch Sealab, since they did a song for it. However, this reference is a huge stretch. "I'll get you (whoever) if it's the last thing I do!" is a common cliché phrase for villains. Sealab and this email were referencing the same general phenomenon. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:40, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:22, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*'''Decline.''' Did you know that [[comic]] is one of the few instances that the word "<s>ass</s>" is used on the site, with the other instance being [[Hairstyle Runner]]? Well don't post a fact about it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Comment''' In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] they say hella, not hell. --[[User:Koooo275|Kiril]] 10:30, 27 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Agree''' I never noticed that before.
*'''Comment''' The use of "hell" in the toons is more on the slang side than actual cursing. In the case of Parsnips its just referring to the fiery place of torment. So the use of "hell" isn't really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.
*'''Weak Decline''' Since the answer was right on that test (and never right on Calvin's tests) I don't think this is the case. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Comment''' We never actually see the questions to the test (except the first, which is "Are you all going to be in my experimental film?"), so we don't know if the answer is right. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on comment''' Actually, we know the answer was wrong, because the test-taker got an A+ after selecting a ''different'' answer (specifically, "Yeah!") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:56, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Comment on my own comment''' Well, okay, actually, I was assuming that it was multiple-choice and that the test-taker was selecting the first of four possible answers (notice the hilight). I suppose four questions being on a different page never really occurred to me before now. Oh, well, whatever. The test-taker got an A+. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:01, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Will the commentary never cease?''' You are right! I personally don't think it has much to do with whether it's a reference or not, though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:57, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seems a bit of a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This reference seems fine to me. Calvin did this a lot and I think of it when seeing "cotton gin" on a test. It might be a bit stretchy though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:49, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''
*'''Decline.''' Theres an essay by Mike Nelson (of '''Mystery Science Theater 3000''' fame) about how Eli Whitney and the cotten gin were all kids used to learn about in school. So the cotten gin answer isn't really an original idea (or at least not one to put a specific reference on). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Decline''' I read and own many Calvin and Hobbes comic collections. In my reading, I noticed that while Calvin did use The Cotton Gin as answers, he mostly just puts down random answers to questions he didn't know the correct answer to. Other answers include "Trostsky, Lexington, 1824", and so on. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:27, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.
*'''Decline.''' Seems like a stretch to me. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Maybe, but theres not enough evidence. It could just be a variation on "big in France" or "big in Japan" style jokes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speach here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audiance.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Though I did post a similar fun fact in Homestarloween Party using the knowledge from this fact. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And [[for kids]] was the second time we see Strong Bad smile, and in [[virus]] it is the second email where a Strong Bad's computer explodes. Do you see how boring that can get? [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 21:57, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and probably has said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''' Agreed. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second''' As Homestar said, "Boring." --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' The Kids' Choice Awards themselves are probably a reference to the People's Choice Awards anyway.

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Worst prize'D, Ding''' People, we have encyclopedias, we can look things up. Just because we know things about the revolutionary war, doesn't mean that we're 200 years old. We go to school, and we learn things. So there. --64.136.27.226 18:01, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Um... you should READ the fun fact before you vote for it. Sure, just because you know about the Civil War doesn't mean you're 200 years old, but what about if you FOUGHT in it? Because the "fighting in the Civil War" metaphor paralells the fact in question, not your post.
*'''Decline''' Ummm, if this was taken literally, then how old would the KoT be?! Strong Bad's a liar, and this is a one-time joke, as said many times above. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:11, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Chew on this: There's a 1936 version of Strong Bad out there, so it could be an "older" version of Strong Bad in the Castlefunnies, and not actually the present-day one. As it is, the other Castlefunnies characters look different from their present-day counterparts, and the Poopsmith actually had a different name.

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Apparently not if the STUFF'D fact below is any indication (oh, and '''second'''). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' This one IS too general... (however, the one below is not) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Honestly!''' A word to the administrators: I move that these copy-and-paste Fun Facts be DELETED immediately. Do I have a second to this motion?
** I move that you SIGN your vote. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
* Right right (and I'm the one who needs to lighten up). Look, the guitar also shows up on the Limozeen poster in Haircut. Is there going to be a fun fact for that appearance as well? It doesn't matter whether the guitar shows up in an easter egg or as part of the main cartoon. Its a re-used prop, not any different than TBC re-using the animated props. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I think the point I'm trying to make is that in those other instances, the guitar is not an active part of the toon. The fact that in "best thing" the guitar is *tossed* from animated to live-action makes it noticeable, and therefore, notable in the fun facts. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** Um no, that still just makes it a PROP. And it still doesn't change the fact that its had other appearances before Best Thing. In fact, it shows up almost everytime Limozeen does so its safe to assume it'll show up again in the future. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***"Almost?" I think not - it doesn't show up in their picture in [[monster truck]], it doesn't show up in their [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-cards]], or any of their other appearances besides the easter eggs in [[haircut]] or [[flashback]] (which are the guitar's ONLY other appearances besides [[Puppet Time]]). Still, there's a difference between a prop that's just for scenery and a prop that is an active part of the action - in the easter egg appearances, it's just held with no explicit reference being made to it. This isn't the case in Puppet Time and Best Thing. And my reasoning for the weakness of the "TBC re-use items" argument is that the average viewer won't say "Hey, the Brothers Chaps re-use that guitar cuz they can't afford to go out and get a new one each time they wanna put one in a live-action shot" - the average viewer is more likely to say "HEY! That guitar looks just like the one Homestar takes away in 'Puppet Time'." An electric guitar is a noticeable item, other minor props like a bottle of ketchup or an old can are not - there is a diference, end of story.--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Theres a bit of a flaw to your reasoning there guy. The use of the guitar isn't meant to be in refererence to anything. Its not important or central to the gag at hand. They could've used the black guitar for all it mattered. It would not have changed the joke at all. As I keep saying, ITS JUST ANOTHER PROP. If someone had posted that the guitar in Puppet Time was the same one in Flashback would you have rejected that fun fact? In fact, since you have to go out of the way to view the easter eggs its logical that pointing out the guitar's appearances in Hair cut and Flashback are more important than the one in Best thing. After all, if not everyone is going to see the easter eggs then its decidedly harder to note the use of the guitars. And thats what fun facts are for right? Pointing out stuff that people normally wouldn't notice right? So if we wouldn't point it out for the easter eggs why should we point it out here? But you go ahead and be obtuse and declare victory all you want. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***There's a flaw in YOUR reasoning - it's more central to the gag at hand than either of the easter eggs in Haircut or Flashback, someone DID point out the guitar's appearance in Flashback, no I wouldn't have rejected it (being only the second time it's been used), and going out of the way to get the easter eggs does NOT make it more important than the reference in Best Thing - in fact, the easter eggs make them less important as they're not an integral part of the toon. And I'm not being obtuse, you're being argumentative (as usual). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
** I like how you added in "as usual", as if we've had a million arguments before when in fact I do believe this is the closest thing to an argument I've had here (and if it isn't, its the first one I've had with you. The fact is that if the guitar had been a cartoon prop people would've jumped on it screaming "TBC re-use things all the time". The guitar was not central to joke. It could have been any guitar that was thrown. Therefore, its just another prop. Second, one thing you said is that this fact is valid because some viewers might not have noticed the guitar's re-usage. The re-use is even less important if its been pointed out elsewhere on the site (hey, lets mention that Homsar started out in the e-mail "Homsar" everytime he appears). ITS. JUST. A. PROP. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***It doesn't matter how much you capitalize it or put periods after every word, it doesn't make it more true or the guitar less noticeable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' It also can be a fun fact as this particular instance(unlike the cans, ketchup, ect...) was difficult to notice. I hadnt recognised the guitar's similarity in the two toons even after watching each toon 3 times (as i do with most toons). --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:50, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I found this fact interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Y'alls can argue all you want, but I think the fact is good enough to be mentioned. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:17, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd.''' Donny is being argumentative, as he usually is. The majority so far is ruling, so get used to it. Oh, and... if you want it to be possessive, it's just ITS, but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's IT apostrophe S. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:00, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Point One''' This has been mentioned about other single-episode shows already. '''Point Two''' Nobody wants to read about failure shows on a site about a successful web cartoon.
*'''Major Revision then Accept''' Only keep Turn-On, because, like the Limozeen cartoon, it didn't even make it through the pilot episode. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:43, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (What is it with the constant claims, based on the most tenuous of similarities, that something is "almost certainly" a reference to some obscure webtoon or other phenomenon? I think some people need to review the definition of "certainly"...) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Explain why it could be a reference. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:04, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yeah, how is it a referance? I've only played the first game. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**In Parappa the Rapper 2, a group of people are turning anything and everything into noodles.

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''DECLINE TO THE MAX WITH A VENGANCE''' TMBG is made up of The Johns, the Dans, and Marty, none of them are girls...
** Two things: 1) SIGN YOUR VOTE. 2) The part of the line in question is posted above. The part with the girls isn't there for a reason. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:38, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise, accept''' As there is no proof to the usage of Flash MX, do not include that part. However, I found it interesting that this particular flash file is named diffrently from the rest. So, try:

The flash file for this email is called sbemail126_mx.swf, instead of the normal sbemail126.swf.

:Signed: [[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 11:57, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Much like the "newintro" item up above, this one is not that interesting and really doesn't bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Rewrite, Accept''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:31, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This seems really vauge. A lot of villains could look like that. The "Or's" say enough.

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second'''
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
**'''NOTE''': I just checked the Cheat Commandos...O's Fun Facts again, and it is only his first initial. Oh, the (slight) embarrassment. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 20:03, 27 March 2005 (BST)
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. It's major obvious that his first initial is "M", because his first name is Marshie. He doesn't have "Sergant" in his name. DO THE MATH! --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:13, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And this is news, how? Strong Bad's first initial is S, but I don't see that anywhere. Really.

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===
==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===
==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Previously someone else said "Strong Bad tends to lie" or something like that. I've thought of that fact before....also the Gremin might not be his. Allow me to reason:
<pre>
stunt double had Dangereque 2
dangeresque 3 had Dangereque 1, with which car.
car had the "You ever see me in a car? No!" quote.

Allow me to put these in order:

dangereque 3(1)
car(quote)
stunt double(2)

First in Dangereque 2, he wasn't in a car.
but Dangereque 1, he was seen in a car.
Dangereque 1 was obviously made before
Dangereque 2, before "car".

This is too confusing, but I hope it gives you a better understanding of it.

</pre>

--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:55, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think what the above user is saying is that since Dangeresque 1 is a prequel to Dangeresque 2, and Dangeresque 2 was made before "car", that Strong Bad had been in a car before "car" was made. However, I think there is evidence in the "dangeresque 3" e-mail that Dangeresque 1 was actually made after Dangeresque 2 (within the H*R universe). Note the sign at the beginning that says "Not in 3-D" and the fact that it is called "Dangeresque 1", not just "Dangeresque." Strong Bad probably realized there was no Dangeresque 1 and subsequently made one, excusing its appearance after Dangeresque 2 by saying it was the limited edition director's cut. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:44, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Strong Sad Blog|Strong Sad's Lement]] ===

==== Meh ====

"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

*'''Decline.''' It's to obvious, It's like saying Homestar's speech impediment. Meh is also an emotion meaning normal, not happy, not sad, just...meh. - [[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==Games==

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)