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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Angela:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==The Troll's talk page==&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:First Time Here?]] is not a real user. It is a bot that is set up to automatically welcome new users. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I guess that's why it's better to have real humans welcome people instead of bots doing it. :) [[User:Angela|Angela]] 17:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::We do. This system just gives them some links to help acquaint them with the wiki, real people can then see their edits and style and offer them a much warmer, personal greeting. Notice that this user did not receive one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Regardless, we would have had a real user welcome this vandal anyway. Then we would have had to delete it as well, so that makes no difference. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Angela. Actually, the bot isn't really &amp;quot;welcoming&amp;quot; you all that much, I think. It's just providing some starting points for a new user. And by the way, welcome back to you! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:15, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:To elaborate, the wording of the bot was chosen specifically such that it does ''not'' welcome anyone, nor does it thank the new user for creating an account (for the precise reason that we don't want it automatically welcoming vandals). It's just a list of helpful links. Welcomes come separately and are done by real people. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok. I was just concerned that an inappropriate name regarding trolls and wikia would show up in google results when it wouldn't have done if that bot had not created a talk page for that user. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 23:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I imagine we could do a rel bots = no follow thing on talk pages. Might not be a bad plan... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Often talk pages are a place to find helpful answers to questions, so you'd be preventing people finding those. I think just deleting the user pages of banned users would be best. It also discourages them doing it if you remove all traces of them. Otherwise, it's fun to make annoying usernames that other users will see and possibly be offended by. &amp;quot;Delete, ban, move on&amp;quot; is a common phrase over at Wikipedia, but I can't say whether that is also a good thing for your community. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 00:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We usually delete vandal talk pages within seconds or minutes. So I'm not at all concerned about Google indexing those before we notice them. However, the talkpages of some users are not deleted, as they document relevant discussions. This is decided on a case-by-case basis.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Thanks for all your comments. It's useful to hear the opinions of a different community on issues like this. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 01:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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&lt;div&gt;==The Troll's talk page==&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:First Time Here?]] is not a real user. It is a bot that is set up to automatically welcome new users. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I guess that's why it's better to have real humans welcome people instead of bots doing it. :) [[User:Angela|Angela]] 17:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::We do. This system just gives them some links to help acquaint them with the wiki, real people can then see their edits and style and offer them a much warmer, personal greeting. Notice that this user did not receive one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Regardless, we would have had a real user welcome this vandal anyway. Then we would have had to delete it as well, so that makes no difference. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Angela. Actually, the bot isn't really &amp;quot;welcoming&amp;quot; you all that much, I think. It's just providing some starting points for a new user. And by the way, welcome back to you! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:15, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:To elaborate, the wording of the bot was chosen specifically such that it does ''not'' welcome anyone, nor does it thank the new user for creating an account (for the precise reason that we don't want it automatically welcoming vandals). It's just a list of helpful links. Welcomes come separately and are done by real people. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok. I was just concerned that an inappropriate name regarding trolls and wikia would show up in google results when it wouldn't have done if that bot had not created a talk page for that user. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 23:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I imagine we could do a rel bots = no follow thing on talk pages. Might not be a bad plan... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Often talk pages are a place to find helpful answers to questions, so you'd be preventing people finding those. I think just deleting the user pages of banned users would be best. It also discourages them doing it if you remove all traces of them. Otherwise, it's fun to make annoying usernames that other users will see and possibly be offended by. &amp;quot;Delete, ban, move on&amp;quot; is a common phrase over at Wikipedia, but I can't say whether that is also a good thing for your community. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 00:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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&lt;div&gt;==The Troll's talk page==&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:First Time Here?]] is not a real user. It is a bot that is set up to automatically welcome new users. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I guess that's why it's better to have real humans welcome people instead of bots doing it. :) [[User:Angela|Angela]] 17:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::We do. This system just gives them some links to help acquaint them with the wiki, real people can then see their edits and style and offer them a much warmer, personal greeting. Notice that this user did not receive one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Regardless, we would have had a real user welcome this vandal anyway. Then we would have had to delete it as well, so that makes no difference. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Angela. Actually, the bot isn't really &amp;quot;welcoming&amp;quot; you all that much, I think. It's just providing some starting points for a new user. And by the way, welcome back to you! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:15, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:To elaborate, the wording of the bot was chosen specifically such that it does ''not'' welcome anyone, nor does it thank the new user for creating an account (for the precise reason that we don't want it automatically welcoming vandals). It's just a list of helpful links. Welcomes come separately and are done by real people. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok. I was just concerned that an inappropriate name regarding trolls and wikia would show up in google results when it wouldn't have done if that bot had not created a talk page for that user. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 23:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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&lt;div&gt;==The Troll's talk page==&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:First Time Here?]] is not a real user. It is a bot that is set up to automatically welcome new users. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I guess that's why it's better to have real humans welcome people instead of bots doing it. :) [[User:Angela|Angela]] 17:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:43:12 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>			<comments>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Angela</comments>		</item>
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			<title>HRWiki talk:2007 Spring Fundraising Drive</title>
			<link>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:2007_Spring_Fundraising_Drive</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;Angela:&amp;#32;wikia&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Might I suggest getting a '''tremendously''' cheaper account with DreamHost instead? You don't need a lot to run a wiki. Not a lot at all... -- Someguyerson&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually we use a lot of bandwidth.  The SBEMAIL page just by itself has been accessed 1,241,528 times.  We had to go to a dedicated server a year or so ago to handle all the load. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmmmmm. About how many gigs of bandwidth? If that's not too personal a question! -- Someguyerson&lt;br /&gt;
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:Read up at [[HRWiki talk:2005 Fall Pledge Drive#Server cost]]. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And that discussion is nearly two years old. Our usage has far surpassed what we were doing then. ''Hundreds'' of gigabytes. This is a popular site. As they say, you get what you pay for, thus we pay a lot so that each user's experience here is as hassle-free as possible (which, besides legal reasons, is why we don't have ads or anything like that). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Wikia==&lt;br /&gt;
Just a reminder - the offer of free hosting from [[Wikia:Wikia|Wikia]] is still open. It would mean ads, but if you look at [http://uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia], you'll see they are quite discrete. I've always liked the way this community is run and I would love you to welcome you all to Wikia if you ever find the hosting costs get too much. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 05:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 05:46:21 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>			<comments>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/HRWiki_talk:2007_Spring_Fundraising_Drive</comments>		</item>
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			<title>User talk:JoeyDay</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Angela:&amp;#32;thanks for your reply&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Welcome to Joey's talk page. This is not the general help desk of the Wiki. If you need help, go to the [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] page or visit the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and use the help desk there. If you absolutely need an answer from me or if you have comments, feel free to leave them below.&lt;br /&gt;
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I've recently created a [[User:JoeyDay/talk archive|talk archive]] for old comment threads. If you came here looking for an old conversation, be sure to check there. Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Duplication of fun facts (references and fast forwards) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I look at [[bottom 10]] and I note that it includes the note of the reference to [[english paper]], the mouth diagram. I then look at english paper, and under Fast Forward is the same fact. I look at [[boring (really)]] and see that it notes the reference to [[lunch special]], 'sbu'. But then, I look at lunch special and it's got something to that effect under Fast Forward. This, to me, is rather unnecessary and comes off as unprofessional. I don't deny the usefulness of the Fast Forward section, but excluding those which really belong under Fast Forward, like &amp;quot;The Cheat is Not Dead would later appear on the Strong Bad Sings CD&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Stinkoman would later become the name of a real character&amp;quot;, one must decide whether we have two copies of EVERY Fun Fact or whether we only have one copy of each. Of course, it's obvious that the latter is the preferable choice. As such, not only is the duplication of Fun Facts unnecessary via Fast Forward, but it's also deviation from standard form, another sloppy practice. If some manner of reform could be made, such would make the Fun Facts a little more easy to sort through. Thanks, [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:04, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[HRWiki:Standards#Fast Forward|The Fast Forward section]] of [[HRWiki:Standards|the standards]] say that &amp;quot;a fact in the Fast Forward category is something of significance in the toon that is re-used later on.&amp;quot;  If you don't think a fact is significant enough, bring it up on the respective talk page.  Also, Joey might not be the best person to discuss this matter with.  You might want to try [[User:Jay|Jay]], who came up with the fun fact subcategories, or [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]], our fun fact guru.[[User:Tom|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:37, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What's unprofessional about a forward reference and a backward reference? They're not on the same page. How do we know which one a particular user will see first? Isn't it in the interest of any wiki to have ''more'' links, not fewer? &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:49, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In my opinion, it's best to avoid clutter. And, as well, as I said, consistent policy strikes me as optimal. Also, some of these are not that significant. Taking the sbu example, for one. If Sbu were to become, say, the inspiration for a song later, then the forwards reference indeed fits the bill of some significance. But I disagree in the current instance. Well, failing that, I guess I can follow that advice, Tom... namely to dispute each individual Fun Fact. Darn. Well, I've got a bit of work tomorrow, then. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 02:04, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And concerning my choice of users to ask, I was asking Joey because it would seem to be a matter of policy. And, as well, I wasn't sure at the time, so I knew at least by asking Joey, if he was not the right person, he would definitely be able to direct me to the right person.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Before you flood the STUFF page, why not start at discussion at the [[HRWiki_talk:Standards|standards talk page]]? Or do a test case. Speaking to your point, I really don't see how one extra line is all that much clutter. And in the case of &amp;quot;sbu&amp;quot;, it's a made-up nonword, so I think the reference is justified. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:47, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I found this to be a losing battle, some time before I worked out the Fun Facts subcategories. Originally, I thought the same thing of Forward References; that they were largely unnecessary. No one agreed. So, although I'm not terribly fond of the concept, when I split the Fun Facts, I added a subcategory specifically for forward references. However, the forward references are still split from the others. If you make a forward reference in the Inside References subcategory, expect a quick [[DELETED]]!! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:52, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sorry I didn't see this sooner, Suicune (I'm not sure how I missed such a large thread on my talk page), but it looks like this already came to a sort of conclusion. I would agree with you about the duplication, but, as Jay has pointed out, it would take a massive grassroots uprising to change things. As already suggested, the best place to bring this up would be the [[HRWiki talk:Standards|standards talk page]]. Good luck. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:02, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unneeded S's? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I am thinking of making a page called &amp;quot;Unneeded S's&amp;quot; To you think this page will be useful? -- {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, off the top of my head it doesn't sound useful at all. Maybe if you explain it a little more I'll get what you're trying to do. Bottom line is I don't decide what's best for the wiki, the community does. You may want to post this question in a more public place like the talk page for whatever category you think &amp;quot;Unneeded S's&amp;quot; should belong to. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:26, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kinsey's forum registration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you get my forum registration form yet? -Kinsey&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure. What's your forum username? &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:37, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::the same. Kinsey. -Kinsey&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Hm, when did you mail it? I haven't seen it, yet, but then I haven't checked today's mail. I'll keep an eye out for it, though. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:50, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Where has Stu been? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where has [[User:Stu|Stu]] been? Maybe this is a stupid question, but he hasn't been on the wiki ever since we changed the software. Maybe you know where he is? [[User:Happy|Happy]] 20:00, 13 Aug 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe I should let Stu answer this himself, but the simple answer is he prefers to spend his time on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. He's also been through some tough medical stuff this year, he's close to finishing his bachelor's degree, and he's working a couple jobs. I think he's just real busy. I'll let him know you were thinking about him, though. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:17, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::As Joey has so accurately put, I have been busy.  Although, that is a bit of an understatement.  I currently work 3 part-time jobs, have a wife, play Everquest 2, and I am about to start up school (13 hours of class... so roughly 25-30 hours of homework per week).  To top it all off, I have had some medical problems.  Stuff that I don't really want to go into (for the sake of your lunch).&lt;br /&gt;
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::When we switched over to the new wiki software I was right in the thick of everything.  I just haven't taken the time to sit down and learn all of the new tricks that mediawiki has to offer. (As you can see, I have no clue what I am really doing here :)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I suppose I'll stop taking up space on Joey's page.  Thanks for the concern though.  It's nice to know that people care about me :) [[User:Stu|Stu]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Joey, can you drop me a line? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been interested in contributing to the wiki project, but e-mails I've sent you over the last couple of months have gone unanswered. Seeing as how this is kind of important, let's try reaching you on your talk page. Can you send an e-mail to marc@homestarrunner.net when you've read this? We'll figure out a day/time that will work for a phone call, and take it from there. Thanks in advance, &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000AA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;''':: marc'''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== the right person ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You seem like the right person to say this to. I read what you said about someone you know meeting and talking with the brother chaps, and it may sound dumb, but my goal in life is to meet the Brother chaps. (lol) do you know how i can acomplish this?  I do have a sister that lives about an hour from atlanta. just wanted to point that out. Thanks! --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:54, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, I've never met them myself, so unfortunately I'm not real qualified to give advice. Tom met them at a show they did at NYU. They probably do shows in Atlanta all the time, so if you can get out there that's probably your best chance. Good luck. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 05:10, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hosting==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi Joey, in case you didn't see it, I've made a suggestion at [[HRWiki talk:Donations]]. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 20:56, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for your reply. I understand your wishes to stay independent. Just let me know if there's any way we can help in future though. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 05:53, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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&lt;div&gt;Welcome to Joey's talk page. This is not the general help desk of the Wiki. If you need help, go to the [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] page or visit the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and use the help desk there. If you absolutely need an answer from me or if you have comments, feel free to leave them below.&lt;br /&gt;
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I've recently created a [[User:JoeyDay/talk archive|talk archive]] for old comment threads. If you came here looking for an old conversation, be sure to check there. Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Duplication of fun facts (references and fast forwards) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I look at [[bottom 10]] and I note that it includes the note of the reference to [[english paper]], the mouth diagram. I then look at english paper, and under Fast Forward is the same fact. I look at [[boring (really)]] and see that it notes the reference to [[lunch special]], 'sbu'. But then, I look at lunch special and it's got something to that effect under Fast Forward. This, to me, is rather unnecessary and comes off as unprofessional. I don't deny the usefulness of the Fast Forward section, but excluding those which really belong under Fast Forward, like &amp;quot;The Cheat is Not Dead would later appear on the Strong Bad Sings CD&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Stinkoman would later become the name of a real character&amp;quot;, one must decide whether we have two copies of EVERY Fun Fact or whether we only have one copy of each. Of course, it's obvious that the latter is the preferable choice. As such, not only is the duplication of Fun Facts unnecessary via Fast Forward, but it's also deviation from standard form, another sloppy practice. If some manner of reform could be made, such would make the Fun Facts a little more easy to sort through. Thanks, [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:04, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[HRWiki:Standards#Fast Forward|The Fast Forward section]] of [[HRWiki:Standards|the standards]] say that &amp;quot;a fact in the Fast Forward category is something of significance in the toon that is re-used later on.&amp;quot;  If you don't think a fact is significant enough, bring it up on the respective talk page.  Also, Joey might not be the best person to discuss this matter with.  You might want to try [[User:Jay|Jay]], who came up with the fun fact subcategories, or [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]], our fun fact guru.[[User:Tom|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:37, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What's unprofessional about a forward reference and a backward reference? They're not on the same page. How do we know which one a particular user will see first? Isn't it in the interest of any wiki to have ''more'' links, not fewer? &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:49, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In my opinion, it's best to avoid clutter. And, as well, as I said, consistent policy strikes me as optimal. Also, some of these are not that significant. Taking the sbu example, for one. If Sbu were to become, say, the inspiration for a song later, then the forwards reference indeed fits the bill of some significance. But I disagree in the current instance. Well, failing that, I guess I can follow that advice, Tom... namely to dispute each individual Fun Fact. Darn. Well, I've got a bit of work tomorrow, then. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 02:04, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And concerning my choice of users to ask, I was asking Joey because it would seem to be a matter of policy. And, as well, I wasn't sure at the time, so I knew at least by asking Joey, if he was not the right person, he would definitely be able to direct me to the right person.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Before you flood the STUFF page, why not start at discussion at the [[HRWiki_talk:Standards|standards talk page]]? Or do a test case. Speaking to your point, I really don't see how one extra line is all that much clutter. And in the case of &amp;quot;sbu&amp;quot;, it's a made-up nonword, so I think the reference is justified. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:47, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I found this to be a losing battle, some time before I worked out the Fun Facts subcategories. Originally, I thought the same thing of Forward References; that they were largely unnecessary. No one agreed. So, although I'm not terribly fond of the concept, when I split the Fun Facts, I added a subcategory specifically for forward references. However, the forward references are still split from the others. If you make a forward reference in the Inside References subcategory, expect a quick [[DELETED]]!! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:52, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sorry I didn't see this sooner, Suicune (I'm not sure how I missed such a large thread on my talk page), but it looks like this already came to a sort of conclusion. I would agree with you about the duplication, but, as Jay has pointed out, it would take a massive grassroots uprising to change things. As already suggested, the best place to bring this up would be the [[HRWiki talk:Standards|standards talk page]]. Good luck. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:02, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unneeded S's? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I am thinking of making a page called &amp;quot;Unneeded S's&amp;quot; To you think this page will be useful? -- {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, off the top of my head it doesn't sound useful at all. Maybe if you explain it a little more I'll get what you're trying to do. Bottom line is I don't decide what's best for the wiki, the community does. You may want to post this question in a more public place like the talk page for whatever category you think &amp;quot;Unneeded S's&amp;quot; should belong to. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:26, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kinsey's forum registration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you get my forum registration form yet? -Kinsey&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure. What's your forum username? &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:37, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::the same. Kinsey. -Kinsey&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Hm, when did you mail it? I haven't seen it, yet, but then I haven't checked today's mail. I'll keep an eye out for it, though. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:50, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Where has Stu been? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where has [[User:Stu|Stu]] been? Maybe this is a stupid question, but he hasn't been on the wiki ever since we changed the software. Maybe you know where he is? [[User:Happy|Happy]] 20:00, 13 Aug 2005 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe I should let Stu answer this himself, but the simple answer is he prefers to spend his time on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. He's also been through some tough medical stuff this year, he's close to finishing his bachelor's degree, and he's working a couple jobs. I think he's just real busy. I'll let him know you were thinking about him, though. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:17, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::As Joey has so accurately put, I have been busy.  Although, that is a bit of an understatement.  I currently work 3 part-time jobs, have a wife, play Everquest 2, and I am about to start up school (13 hours of class... so roughly 25-30 hours of homework per week).  To top it all off, I have had some medical problems.  Stuff that I don't really want to go into (for the sake of your lunch).&lt;br /&gt;
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::When we switched over to the new wiki software I was right in the thick of everything.  I just haven't taken the time to sit down and learn all of the new tricks that mediawiki has to offer. (As you can see, I have no clue what I am really doing here :)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I suppose I'll stop taking up space on Joey's page.  Thanks for the concern though.  It's nice to know that people care about me :) [[User:Stu|Stu]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Joey, can you drop me a line? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've been interested in contributing to the wiki project, but e-mails I've sent you over the last couple of months have gone unanswered. Seeing as how this is kind of important, let's try reaching you on your talk page. Can you send an e-mail to marc@homestarrunner.net when you've read this? We'll figure out a day/time that will work for a phone call, and take it from there. Thanks in advance, &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000AA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;''':: marc'''&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== the right person ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You seem like the right person to say this to. I read what you said about someone you know meeting and talking with the brother chaps, and it may sound dumb, but my goal in life is to meet the Brother chaps. (lol) do you know how i can acomplish this?  I do have a sister that lives about an hour from atlanta. just wanted to point that out. Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Joey, in case you didn't see it, I've made a suggestion at [[HRWiki talk:Donations]]. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 20:56, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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&lt;div&gt;Why isn't there Australian currency? Is our money so worthless to you!!!!?&lt;br /&gt;
Kidding. Just curious. - M.J&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure why Joey didn't include it in the first place, but rest assured we have nothing against Aussies. FYI, PayPal will take donations in most any currency, if you just change the currency_code at the end of the URL. The currency code for Australian dollars is AUD, so you can make an AUD donation by going to the following URL:&lt;br /&gt;
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:https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=donations%40hrwiki.org&amp;amp;no_note=1&amp;amp;tax=0&amp;amp;currency_code=AUD&lt;br /&gt;
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:I hope that's helpful! [[User:InterruptorJones|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]] 20:17, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Because when I made this page on December 24th, PayPal didn't accept Australian dollars.  They only started accepting them as of January 4th, 2005 [http://www2.ebay.com/aw/marketing-au.shtml#2005-01-04200717]. I'll make a graphic the next chance I get.[[User:Tom|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:28, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks fellow Homestar fans. - M.J&lt;br /&gt;
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==Suggestion==&lt;br /&gt;
$600 a year seems a lot for hosting this wiki. Have you considered moving to [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/Wikia Wikia] which offers free wiki hosting? There would be Google ads, like the ones you see at [http://uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia.org]. Would this be seen as too much of a problem? If not, please let me know, since it would be great to see this wiki as a sister project of [http://www.wikicities.com/ Wikicities]. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 12:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:What about bandwidth? We are experences bandwidth problems on this good server. Wouldn't moving to a worse, cheaper server make those problems bigger? Plus, ads = blech. - '''''[[User:Joshua|&amp;lt;font color=green&amp;gt;Joshua&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'''''&lt;br /&gt;
::Bandwidth isn't a problem for Wikicities. You'd certainly not run out at the end of the month like you do currently. I'm not sure why you think the servers would be worse. They wouldn't. We currently have 3 servers dedicated to Wikicities, and a fourth that is shared with another site. We're aiming to get a new one this week, and over the next few months (once we get some financing sorted out), we hope to majorly expand this by buying around 20 new servers. Waiting until we have those would be best to avoid any overload on our current ones. We're also interested in exploring alternate financing models for our wikis. Currently, they all rely on Google ads, but we're open to suggestions such as runnnig a donations model like the one here if the community did want to migrate to Wikia. Please get in touch if you're interested. My contact details are at [http://wikicities.com/wiki/User:Angela Wikicities]. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 20:55, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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&lt;div&gt;See my main user page at [[Wikipedia:User:Angela]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Why isn't there Australian currency? Is our money so worthless to you!!!!?&lt;br /&gt;
Kidding. Just curious. - M.J&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure why Joey didn't include it in the first place, but rest assured we have nothing against Aussies. FYI, PayPal will take donations in most any currency, if you just change the currency_code at the end of the URL. The currency code for Australian dollars is AUD, so you can make an AUD donation by going to the following URL:&lt;br /&gt;
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:https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=donations%40hrwiki.org&amp;amp;no_note=1&amp;amp;tax=0&amp;amp;currency_code=AUD&lt;br /&gt;
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:I hope that's helpful! [[User:InterruptorJones|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;[[&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]] 20:17, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Because when I made this page on December 24th, PayPal didn't accept Australian dollars.  They only started accepting them as of January 4th, 2005 [http://www2.ebay.com/aw/marketing-au.shtml#2005-01-04200717]. I'll make a graphic the next chance I get.[[User:Tom|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:28, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks fellow Homestar fans. - M.J&lt;br /&gt;
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==Suggestion==&lt;br /&gt;
$600 a year seems a lot for hosting this wiki. Have you considered moving to [http://www.wikicities.com/wiki/Wikia Wikia] which offers free wiki hosting? There would be Google ads, like the ones you see at [http://uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia.org]. Would this be seen as too much of a problem? If not, please let me know, since it would be great to see this wiki as a sister project of [http://www.wikicities.com/ Wikicities]. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 12:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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