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Apopcolypse nowish — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:47:40 GMT

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==SB's head==
Strong Bad's head is a lightbulb! A trapezoidal lightbulb! --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least we know what his heads shape is.--[[User:Eddy king|Eddy king]] 15:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

(1) This may reveal the shape of his skull, sure, but that's hardly a surprise. (2) It is a cartoon, and cartoon physics may apply here - which is to say it may not recur or might even be freely contradicted down the road. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Did ya read-? ==

Is it "Did ya read- Dear Strong Bad," or "Dijjery Dear Strong Bad,"? I hear "Dijjery". --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not certain... my first guess was the first half of "didjeridu" but I thought that would just be silly... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Or the first half [[Rejected Characters#Dijjery-Doo|of that one rejected character]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 12:04, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno, but I interpreted it as "did you read." —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::I thought of the didgeridoo as well when I saw it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I very heard dijjery. It has to be dijjery. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:Listening to it again, I agree with dijjery. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Wave Effect ==

I noticed that during the Cheat's "Youth Through Editing" remix of the intro, clicking on the Lappy's screen will still cause the usual distortion effect. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 15:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, and it suffered the same results as in [[Sick Day]]. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 16:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::I just thought it would be worth mentioning, considering the wierd camera angles in the sequence. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 16:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

==Marzipans line==
There is no doubt in my mind that that line thats in the transcript is incorrect. We're is a possible word, but Ditty sound nothing like the mystery confusing word. For a start, the word seems to start with a B. For all we know, she could be speaking in a forign language. (Make sense with the kosher tea)Its at times like this that I wish TBC had a way of answering our questions. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 15:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:That was my last guess. I don't even know what the line is. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 16:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::It sounded to me like "Word, booty." But, uh, that's just me. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 16:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I only thought it up when doing all the [[Subtitles:sbemail164/en|subtitles]] for this. So I will change it accordingly if it does get changed here and a consensus is reached or something. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 16:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::I definitely hear "word booty" but I haven't a clue what that means. Then again, I'm older than Strong Bad. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::I hear "''{something}'' duty", which makes a bit of sense in context. Would help if I could make out the "Something." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::At first I thought she was saying something along the lines of "Word, dudey". But after listening again, I agree it's "''{something}'' duty"; that would make more sense than my inital thought. It almost sounds like "We're duty", but I have no clue what that means. {{User:Garnet Jell-o/sig}} 18:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'm with Qermaq and TSSG3 on this. Word Booty (maybe a reference to why he's obligated to have her there and listen?) - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 21:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I distinctly hear "Word, booty!" --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
: I agree Gerkuman, the second word has a "B" at the beginning and sounds like "Booty" The first sounds close to "weird" or "word." My guess is it is a phrase in another language and just for the fun of it, I went to Babelfish and put in "Werd Boote" and it translated from German to English as "Become Boats." Though I realize the W would have a V sound if said properly. The first word sounds something like "whered." --Shadow

Have we reached a consensus or something on "booty"? 'Cause I'm gonna change it on the subtitles now. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

No answer eh? Well, let's keep it at "Word Booty" and stay there. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 13:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Estimated ages? ==

Strong Bad says "Oh, yeah. I feel at least 10 years younger! Time to go relate with some 18-24 year olds!" This brings up two ideas. He goes to see Strong Sad, so that leads me to believe that Strong Sad is 18-24. Also, if Strong Bad wants to relate to people around 10 years younger than his real age, that could mean he's 28-34 years old.

:The thing is, your theory i'ds contradicted by 'The Secrets I Keep'. In that they are around the same age [[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 17:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

::Also, why would he choose Strong Sad to relate to? That angle doesn't make sense. But you'll note that Matt is 30 and Mike is 33 - that's ''their'' age, no? One could assume (if one was prone to speculation) that Strong Bad is about their age. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:::I see nothing contradictory in 'The Secrets That I Keep'. All it shows is what went on in their childhood, and it has no reference to ages whatsoever.

::::Still, this may give an age range for Strong Bad, but it offers nothing useful toward determining Strong Sad's age. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::I think the comment about relating to 18-24 yr olds is based on that being considered the key demographic for those who specialize in "edgy humor." So I really don't think that it can in anyway be seen as a way to estimate Strong Bad's age (there have been plenty of people of all ages who have tried to appeal to this demographic, often by changing their appearence), as for why he picks Strong Sad???? That has me baffled too, unless you want to take into account that Strong Sad listens to college radio and '''may''' be of that age group (although I think we're getting really speculative here, well beyond encyclopedic bounds.)- {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 19:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::Or he could be joking or wrong. He's not the sharpest fork in the shead you know. He makes many mistakes and we know how bad he is when it comes to technoligy. Though I'm only saying this becaus I'm against Srong bad being older than me. [[User Yo yo mom|Yo yo mom]]

== L'Chaim ==

Hey there Elcoolio, I wanted to ask you about L'Chaim as is pertains to this article. As I have heard it pronounce L'Chaim in hebrew is a three syllibol phrase (lo-high-em) whereas chai in english is one syllibol (ch-i). Isn't this just a coincidence in spelling? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:''{What is written here is not from the perspective of someone who deeply studied the language, just of someone speaking it. Please read with it as such}'' Well, I'm not going to meddle in the affairs of Wikipedia, but I would have spelled "Lekhaim" (as I like to differentiate between the English or Hindi sound from the Hebrew one, but that would have ruined the joke). You can pronounce it le-kha-yim, or le-kha-im, but not "lo-high-em" or anything like that, unless you want to sound like a heavy-accented tourist. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::but I am a heavily accented tourist. I know how to make that scratchy k sound in le-kha-im, I just don't know what that sound is called or how to write it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::The Hebrew letter for the sound is [[Wikipedia:Heth (letter)|Khet]] and the sound is called [[Wikipedia:Voiceless uvular fricative|Voiceless uvular fricative]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::In addition to what E.L. Cool said, it's most commonly written in english as "ch", but it can also be shown as "Ḥ". As Roz analogizes in [[Wikipedia:Meet the Fockers|Meet the Fockers]], "it's like you've got popcorn stuck in your throat". If you wanted to hear it said or where you place your tongue when you say it, I'm sure that could be arranged. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Woman's Rights? ==
Don't you think that when Strong Bad says to Marzipan "I'm legally obligatted to have you here," is a reference to woman's right movements? - [[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]]
: It could be any of a number of things. Maybe he lost a bet and foolishly signed a contract. Maybe she sued him for not appearing in enough Strong Bad Emails. Who can really say without more info? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, I think it is a women's rights thing. When I went to school there was something called title IX, which basically said for every male sport, there had to be one female sport also. I think that this is something similiar. SB is being forced to have a woman there and he resents it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I can see arguments for a lot of possibilities, including that, but it amounts to speculation in the end. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I thought of affirmative action laws whenever I first saw this, but later wondered if it had anything to do with Title IX instead. Seeing the amiguity of this and how one speculate so much about this, I figure that we probably shouldn't list anything relating to this as a Fun Fact. {{User:Garnet Jell-o/sig}} 22:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Don't even bother, it would never survive STUFF. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::It would never make it to Stuff.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 22:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

==Freakily Abrupt Cut==

The cut after Strong Bad's reaction to the Cheat's editing is freakily abrupt. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Show me how. I mean, it's not obvious. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 13:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==Hsaio==

How do you pronounce that? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:The most simple way to put it in english is "sow", as in a female pig. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, the correct pronunciation is more like "shyow" (where the "ow" is as in "sow"). I'm taking Chinese, so I have some experience with this. In Mainland China, it would actually be written as "Xiao", but Taiwan uses a different romanization. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::kinda like Joao Gilberto's first name? {{User:Csours/sig}} 01:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Explicitly from Asia? ==

I think the fact that says "first email from Asia" should read "First email explicitly from Asia" as some emails don't have a place(who knows, maybe the 2nd email in the Ali and Ali's sister ep. was sent from Asia)
:Yeah, and what about that Horse woman thingy?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 21:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::What on Earth are you referring to? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::[[E-mail Birds]].-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 21:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::I still don't see how that's relevant to the email's geographical origin. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::"Naomi" is a common female first name in Japan, however she says she is from "AB" and according to wikipedia, the only AB that is a place is Aberdeen in the UK
:::::I can't figure out where they're even from... [[Strong Bad Email By Place]] doesn't list it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::It doesn't? She should be listed under [[Wikipedia:Alberta|Alberta]], Canada... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::PS. She '''''is''''' listed under Alberta, Canada. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::THere is also a similar Hebrew name נעמי. I believe the English transliteration would be Naomi. Perhaps she is Israeli?{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 22:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I've known several Naomis here in the states, and of course Canada uses many of the same names we do. I don't see any reason to assume any place but Alberta. P.S.: Why are we discussing this here and not on [[Talk:E-mail Birds]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Skull? ==

Should we mention that this is the first time we get to see his possible Bone/Skull shape? you know, just wondering. {{User:ArchiveMaker/sig}}

See a thread on this above. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==Specificnicityness==

"In the case of Canada, it refers to Yoplait Tubes."

Unless Yoplait Tubes directly markets to young parsons in the way Go-Gurt does, I think this should be taken out. What it ''actually'' refers to is GoGurt because of its marketing campaign. It's coincidence that Yoplait also makes tubed yogurt, except in Canada instead of USA. --[[User:Savethemooses|Savethemooses]] 23:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Go-Gurt ''is'' a product of Yoplait... so it's not really a coincidence... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

:I only put that there because of exclusivity opinions of mine. --Sorry from [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== kosher vs pareve ==

tea would be pareve, unless it had milk in it. however, marzipan widely uses soy products. any comments? {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:I'm thinking it's just a joke, but if tea indeed cannot be kosher (you can see I'm no Jew!) I think that is a goof. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
::Knowing something about Kashrut, I can assure you that out of all the substances in the world, tea would be a rather easy thing to make kosher. And, yes it would probably be pareve, meaning not-meat and non-dairy. However, if the company even bothered at all to mark the tea as pareve, they would have done so on the kosher symbol, which we can assume is on the back or side of the box. Most of the time, whether a product is dairy or non-dairy is left up to the consumer to figure out. Products are only marked if there could be confusion as to whether or not they contain milk, as the supervising agencies assume there is no need to mark cottage cheese dairy, or ramen noodles pareve. My verdict: No goof and not notable.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 03:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't chai have dairy in it? I thought they added cream or something. It sure tastes creamy and delicious. And no, that's not a .. chai latte.. at least I don't think it was.

== The Depression did what? ==

When I first heard the line (and with every subsequent listening) I heard (and hear) The Depression '''caught''' Abraham Lincoln naked.
:I definitely hear "fought"... there's a very clear "F" at the start... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Seizure Warnings ==
Just a quick note, videogames have had seizure warnings since at least the Sega Genesis era, as far as I remember. It wasn't just Pokémon that added this, I remember it being in the manual for Sonic 2.
:Yeah, but it's been a lot more common lately. And now they're, like, actually IN the games. I don't remember seeing one before ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' (although my friend's DreamCast games had them). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I remember seizure warnings in ''original NES'' manuals... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==Reference to Plastic Surgery/Botox?==

When they tightened SB's laces, immediently botox came to mind since really old people get it done so they look "young". -Teh C.
:Well, it is a ref to cosmetic surgery, but not botox... Strong Bad called the procedure a "lace lift" after all, which is a pun on "face lift"... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
::And, that would fall under the category of "explaining the joke" which we don't like to do. Well, explaining the "lace lift/face lift" might be important, but let the reader figure the rest out. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==404'd!==

I'm getting a 404'd when I try to watch this email. Could somebody tell me what's going on?--[[User:Apopcolypse nowish|Apopcolypse nowish]] 16:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. It was a problem with my cache. It's fixed now.--[[User:Apopcolypse nowish|Apopcolypse nowish]] 16:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:looking old

Apopcolypse nowish — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:46:03 GMT

Apopcolypse nowish: /* 404'd! */

Talk:Lappynapped!

Apopcolypse nowish — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:23:34 GMT

Apopcolypse nowish: Remarks

==The Magical Spit-Bubble==
When Strong Sad Has A Spit-Bubble Stuck In His Throat, His Voice Goes Ultra-Deep. Yet, When Homestar Has A Spit-Bubble In His Throat, His Voice Goes Ultra-High, In Fact, Exactly Like Marzipans. Shouldn't both Their Voices Go One Way? -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 07:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:I don't want to delve too deep into the physics of voice altering spit bubbles here (because I know squat about that), but I don't know why this should not be possible. It's, uhm, also funnier this way.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

::OBEY THE FUNNY! Also, save this Flash file to your computer, in case this goes the way of the [[Broken Compy Menu]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I did an experiment about what spit bubbles in your throught make you sound like. They make yoyu sound kinda like Stitch. Or, If your yelling, Strong Mad.

-Alex H.

It's a reference to the Princess Bride, where the guy in the Pit of Despair has a similar problem with his voice, no? --[[User:66.213.14.20|66.213.14.20]] 23:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:That gag was pulled in PB, and that's probably one of the more famous examples, but I'm not sure if it was the first or a reference or anything. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::As a fan of The Princess Bride, I doubt it's a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Dolph's Phone Number==
Also, The Phone Number For The Axe-Training Poster, I Found Out, Is The Same As Daniel Ortega From The N.I.P . I Have NO Idea Why I Looked This Up. -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 10:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:Whoever Daniel Ortega from the N.I.P. is, he does not want to be called (the number [[Wikipedia:555 telephone number|does not exist]]).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Unlinked ==

Is it notable that this is not linked from anywhere except the main page oval? How would we note it if it is? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:This is not a short!

::I've changed the category to reflect that it isn't in the TV Guide at all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Munchy munchy ==

Is it safe to assume that this is another instance of the KOT eating people's property?--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 19:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:Another? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] comes to mind. And [[suntan]]. Though I'm not sure this necessarily qualifies as a running gag. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::This fits in so neatly with his character that these need only be mentioned on his character page. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:No, it is not safe to assume that. Assumptions are rarely safe. Especially since the KOT said he did not eat it, and he called in about the guitar licks. Not to mention with all the voice impersonation going on, we can't even say it was the KOT at all. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Guitar fun fact ==

I liked this fact (although would suggest it be reworded by someone better than me):
*"Furious Fingers" claims to have 17 guitars with 43 necks. With a ratio of roughly 2.5 necks per guitar, he must own several triple necked guitars and likely a few doubles as well.
The notable thing isnt so much the presence of the guitars, but the sheer number of multi-necked ones (if only 3 neck and one necked, then 13 would have to be triple, or 8 double and 9 triple), which strikes me (although i will admit that I am musically challenged at best) as a bit odd. Assuming no more than 3 necks per guitar (which I accept is wrong, but more seems to be rare from the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Double neck guitar|article]]), over half have to be triple for this to work. [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 19:52, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:Multiple-necked guitars are not so unusual - especially back in the 80's, you saw them quite a bit. Is it unusual for someone who collects guitars to have a lot of them? I guess it comes down to this: it doesn't seem notable because it's obvious from context that many of the guitars have to have multiple necks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
::Well, im no math genious, but hwen it comes to guitars, i know guitars. [http://www.engadget.com/2004/10/30/music-thing-the-triple-neck-guitar/ here] is a real triple neck guitar for those doubting their existance. --{{User:Choc-O-Lardiac_Arrest/sig}} 21:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, this is why wikis should be a bit more down-to-earth. Here we are, talking about double and triple necked guitars, but we never gave the idea of the KoT PLAYING A GUITAR!?! Especially a 'lectric one. A, he's got no talent (sides eating), and B, he's not exactly cool. We seriously need to be more down-to-earth. Not kidding, guys. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 00:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, there was that Sketchbook image that showed the KoT as a member of ZZ Top... {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 01:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Uh, did you already forget about the King of Town's [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2|new jam]]? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 08:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Two words: NO ARMS. seriously guys. fingers without arms... right.{{User:Csours/sig}} 02:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::It's possible he could have sixteen single-necks and one twenty-seven neck. :-P [[User:Gus|Gus]] 05:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

:I think it's worth hanging a link to a page talking about (or better yet, showing) a triple-necked guitar. While a good portion of people have seen a double-necked guitar, I think a lot of people would be surprised to learn that monstrosities with 3 or more necks actually exist. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== What have I done? ==

Dear god, what have I done? I email a completly random thing to SB, and then THIS happens. I feel sick. Then again, the lappy needed to go. I think it was having an affair with Marzipan's answering machine. [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 21:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:This is strictly Forum discussion. But don't let it get you down. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
::Man, Man, I'd give anything to have my email answered, and much more to have it be so important. Your email is part of Homestar Runner history! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Don't worry, it's not your fault. It's TBC's. Besides, your email is one of the special ones. Why? It significantly affected the continuity! You should be proud of that! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Future Category ==

So far this toon is only linked from the main page, but that is expected to change once the Brothers Chaps finish this story arc. While it will probably end up as a "Short", would it also be acceptable to classify this as a "Not-Quite-Strong-Bad-Email"? --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:45, 25 Sept 2006 (PDT)

:Well, it is categorized as such now. The categories are based on the TV Time menu on the site. As this is not in that (yet), it's premature to classify it as a Big Toon, Short or whatever. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

==Crocodile Neighba==
Sorry, I didn't realize that had been added/removed before. But aside from that, I think it's a pretty clear reference to "Pearls Before Swine." The crocodile next-door neighbors regularly appear in the strip trying to trick Zebra. I don't think TBC would just pull a crocodile next door asking to borrow a cup of sugar out of thin air. [[User:128.227.130.28|128.227.130.28]] 04:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:I thought of this ref too, but didn't add it for whatever reason. Lazy, perhaps. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I've read PBS daily until about a year ago, and I don't think there's a reference here. I mean, Homestar is not trying to trick SB. Sure, it sounds as if it could be a reference, but Homestar might just as well be weird as usual.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:::It didn't occur to me on its own, but it does make a certain amount of sense after hearing it. Perhaps someone with a user name a bit more sure could STUFF it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: I don't think it is a reference to PBS because the crocodile next door is always trying to ''eat the zebra'', not make cookies.
::::Homestar, however, wants to make "puppy cookies". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'''Edit Conflict'd!''' Those crazy crocs also talk in a funny accent [http://www.comics.com/comics/pearls/archive/pearls-20060910.html]. Ah, I shouldn't have stopped reading it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: Also, the crocodiles try to trick Zebra into coming over to their house or letting them into his house, usually by asking him to do something that seems innocuous (like borrowing a cup of sugar). And since (until "Marzipan" turns out to be Homestar) the message is a parody of Strong Bad leaving ridiculous prank calls on Marzipan's answering machine, the reference seems to fit nicely. [[User:128.227.130.28|128.227.130.28]] 05:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Call me crazy *waits* but I believe the point of a reference is to reference something in a '''funny''' way. Simply finding an occurrence in the real world that matches what someone said does not a reference make. You'll find a billion of those. The only joke in this occurs in what Homestar said, in that the word ''puppy-dough'' looks like the word ''puppy-dog''. This is almost more of a reference to the Doo-ing/Doyng joke Homestar made before. Don't make me go out and find another case of someone living next door to a crocodile just so that this can be TTATOT like just happened with the Beatles vs Marilyn Manson. :) --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's Phone Number ==

Based on the tones I'm hearing at the start of the e-mail, it seems like Strong Bad's phone number is 415-6715. Is that something worthy of putting in the Fun Facts Somewhere? --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 04:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Usually, this kind of ferreted out stuff would be a cool fun fact. I suggest that we don't add it for the sake of the poor person who owns this number. Well done, anyway! How did you find this out? Perfect hearing? {{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd agree on that point. Poor person getting phone calls for Strong Bad. Anyway yeah, I was just listening carefully to the sounds on the toon and comparing it to the sounds on my cell phone. (Funny thing is, I actually kinda had an approximation on what the number might have been just based on listening to the tones on the toon many times, I guess I'm such a geek...) Another way to find out would be to probably try sending the sounds of that e-mail to your pager or cell phone as a numeric page and see what number comes out, although the sound quality of the toon might not be good enough for that. --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 18:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Marzipan?==
I think Marzipan should be included in the cast list, since it's obviously Marzipan's voice, even if it's a joke that it's really homestar just sounding like Marzipan. It's clearly Missy Palmer's voice. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 05:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:So what? Is it Marzipan? No. Therefore it would not be factual for us to include her. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::I agree. The cast list is of characterrs, not voices. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 01:28, 27 Sept 2006 (PDT)

==Transcript's Voice Identification==
The specific question at hand is whether a not-yet-recognizable voice should be identified in the transcript as who it is later revealed to be. My thought would be that the transcripts here should read as much as possible like a viewing of the toon (which is the larger question at hand, the alternative viewpoint being, I suppose, that they should reflect some sort of absolute truth), in which case homestar's first sentence or two should be attributed to Marzipan (or, a compromise I would prefer, to "Marzipan's voice"). Likewise, Strong Sad's first sentence would be attributed to "Deep Scary Voice" or something like that. [I don't know how to make a signature|sorry] 03:02, 26 September 2006 (EST)
:We usually try, as you put it, to "reflect some sort of absolute truth", so the way it is  is fine. To make a signature, just type a string of tilde characters: four if you want a time stamp with it (generally preferred, but by no means mandatory) or three if you don't. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:: We at least recognize this in the [[Subtitles:lappynapped/en|subtitles]], where the "distorted voice" and "Marzipan" are counted separately from the actual speakers. But that's more due to the nature of the subtitles, I suppose; it'd ruin the joke for those with subtitles on otherwise. As for the transcript, in most cases, it can be assumed that the reader of the transcript has previously watched the 'toon. At least, I think. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Our transcript on the toon's page is not meant to equate the experience, nor can it even try to. It's a documentation, and as such it's fine as is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::And guys, usually whoever is reading this wiki knows what the page is talking about. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 19:34, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
::: Though it does suddenly occur to me that we did not give the proper credit for "Homestar" throughout [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

==Reverse prank call?==
At first, when you hear 'homestar's' message, it sounds like Marzipan is leaving a prank call on Strong Bad's answering machine, in a reversal of the usual role. [[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 14:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was busting out laughing when I got to that part! --[[User:Hyrulian|Hyrulian]] 18:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar next door? ==

We know so little about the exact lay of the land in Free Country, USA. Does this toon prove that Homestar and the Brothers Strong are actual next-door neighbors?
:I don't think that can be proved without actually seeing both houses next to each other. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Plus, he says it's the crocodile. Apart from this reflecting on Homestar's personality, It really means that a crocodile lives there. Not that there is... But I really think TBC should give us a map of FCUSA. {{User:Sluggy42/sig}} 19:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Leetspeak==

GRFX is another example of L33T$P33K. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, Graphics. [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 12:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Coughing ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's second cough sound remarkably like one of the Strong Bad coughs from [[Sick Day]]? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Remarks ==

"At the end of 'cliffhangers', The Paper read 'Tune in next time for the cliff hanging conclusion!!' This toon, the next one added to the site, doesn't resolve anything."

I assumed The Paper, within the context of a SBemail, meant that the conclusion would not be within the next Toon added to the site, but within the next email episode.