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Don and Harriet Chapman

Atomic1fire — Fri, 27 Nov 2020 16:34:02 GMT

Atomic1fire: Fixed old link

[[Image:don.JPG|thumb|150px|The late Strong Dad]]
'''Donald "Don" and Harriet Chapman''' are the parents of [[The Brothers Chaps]], along with [[Donnie Chapman]], [[Karen Wagner]], and [[Julie Hand]]. Don was born June 5, 1939, in Winamac, Indiana and moved from Indianapolis to Atlanta in 1980. A graduate of Indiana University, he was a certified public accountant. He helped The Brothers Chaps run the business aspects of their website, and sometimes managed the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] booth at comic conventions along with Harriet. His family described him as the "heart and soul" of [[homestarrunner.com]].

They also seem to have had a say, albeit a small one, in what is shown on the site. [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] was temporarily put back on the site after several requests from Don (see the disclaimer at the start of the cartoon). They also appeared (along with the brothers' [[Uncle Jim and Aunt Rosie]]) in the DVD extra [[Making of Email 100]].

Don, a [[Wikipedia:Catholicism|Catholic]], and Harriet, a [[Wikipedia:Methodism|Methodist]], are proud of their children's work and the humor on the site, claiming that clean humor is better and lasts longer. According to Don, "They were raised in a religious family and have stock in good moral values, but that hasn't stopped them from being uproarious." He expressed confidence that the success of Homestar Runner can last as long as the brothers keep their style while also keeping up with their culture.

The Brothers Chaps sometimes called Don and Harriet "Strong Dad" and "The Mother Chaps", respectively.

Don passed away at his home on Saturday, April 15, 2006. He was 66.

==External Links==

*[https://www.dailyeasternnews.com/2004/04/23/holy-crap/ Daily Eastern News interview with Mike, Matt and Don]
*[http://www.mem.com/ContentDisplay.aspx?ID=13512751 Don Chapman's obituary]

[[Category:Chapman family members|Chapman, Don and Harriet]]

Talk:Ever and More

Atomic1fire — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:01:54 GMT

Atomic1fire: /* "Cold Ones Light" poster */

=="Cold Ones Light" poster==
In the background of when Homestar opens the meeting, there's a poster for "Cold Ones Light." The logo looks remarkably familiar but I can't put my thumb of what brand it's suppose to be parodying. Anyone know? I think it should go in the "Real World References" part, perhaps. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Reminds me of the [http://images.google.com/images?q=old%20style%20beer Old Style beer logo], but that's a Wisconsin/Chicago area brew, so I'm not sure that TBC would be familiar with it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:On the other hand, it is ''very'' close — it has the red and blue diagonal background on a shield, a similar font, and a red ribbon coming from the bottom. I think this is too similar to be a coincidence, so I'm gonna add it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I personally think it's just a coincidence, but I don't mind leaving it for the time being; at least until further discussion is made regarding it. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno, they look too similar to me to pass it off as mere coincidence... -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

==power play==
power play could be a reference to fox news's power player of the week

== Gallery of Helmets ==

Should there be a gallery of the helmets the Brothers are wearing?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I second that idea, but I haven't had much luck figuring out most out the helmets.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I agree; this is a good idea, though I think it could go [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] (which describes what each helmet is) Most (all?) of the helmets probably have pictures uploaded at pages like [[The Cheat Other Costumes]], etc. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Loading, Friend ==

Is there any reason why the loading screen for this toon is "loading, friend,". If there is, please post it [[Irregular Loading Screens|here]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
*Probably because this toon is about a type of Brotherhood. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
It reminds me of Cheers, but thats probably just me.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 10:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Pants Lawsuit ==

I have severe doubts about that reference. For one, the dry cleaners lost his lucky pants, Bubs just can't fit in them. And for two, The Brothers Chaps very rarely make references to current news stories, one so innocuous as this one wouldn't be a prime candidate for an exception. We're ''really'' stretching it here.

:I agree with your skepticism; here's the fact as I removed it, in case people disagree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
Bubs's remark about being in a bad mood because he hasn't been able to fit his lucky pants might be a reference to a news story about a Washington DC Judge who sued a dry cleaner for $54 million dollars for losing his 'lucky' pants. The case was thrown out June 25, 2007 - one day before this toon was posted.
</blockquote>

== doodoo ==

The transcript currently says that Strong Bad says "that's horse pocky, you fools!" I'm 99.9% sure that it's actually "horse pucky", which is semi-obscure slang for horse poop, aka a variation on bullsh-t. Not only does this make more sense than "horse pocky", but one of the characters on M*A*S*H used to say it, and references to 70s/80s sitcoms are pretty standard on this site. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 13:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. It should be changed. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::Also agreed; I changed it to "horse puckey". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The M*A*S*H character you're referring to is [[Wikipedia:Colonel Potter|Colonel Potter]]. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 04:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::If memory serves, Colonel Potter's expression was "horse hockey." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Potter does (well, did) indeed use the term "Horse hockey." However, Strong Bad clearly says "Pucky" on this toon. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 02:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Could it also be a variation of bullhonkey? That's what I immediately thought of when I first heard it. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 12:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== BUBRUB! ==

Remember that news broadcast about the "whistle tips"? [http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA It's on YouTube]. The guy's name on the news is Bubb Rubb. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws and the ointment is only named after Bubs himself, but when he held it up and I read the label, I immediately thought, "The whistles go whooooo!" [[User:William|William]] 14:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

-I don't think so. Rubs and ointments are a common theme through the Homestar Runner series, given that 'Bub(s)' rhymes with 'rub', I don't think any further explanation is needed. [[User:194.80.32.10|194.80.32.10]] 14:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::Personally, I'm willing to allow it, because it is a fairly well-known meme. It ''might'' be a coincidence, but I think it's fairly likely that it's not. I'd leave the fact, but make sure it says that it ''could'' be a reference rather than it ''is'' a reference. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 17:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this reference and I think it should be STUFF'd, if not removed outright. Thank you. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 19:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Why do you disagree with it so strongly? The Bubb Rubb meme was, as 0rion pointed out, fairly popular, and even though rubs and ointments are a common occurrence in the H*R series, I think it's still likely to be an intentional reference. It's at least likely enough to warrant inclusion with the qualifier that it may possibly be a reference. If you feel so strongly against it, please explain your reasoning. [[User:72.248.107.194|72.248.107.194]] 14:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:I just felt the reference was a total stretch. Some folks are quick to call "real-world reference" just because it reminds them of something they've seen before, with no regard for relevance. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I see this was STUFF'd and declined unanimously before I even had a chance to vote, so obviously I wasn't alone on this. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::It's not a total stretch if it reminds people of the meme. The Brothers Chaps are very internet guys, and I'm sure they've seen it. If it makes it as a reference, here's a decent link to accompany it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV#Bubb_Rubb -- [[User:Rueful|Rueful]] 20:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::It didn't make it, though. It has already been declined in STUFF. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I checked the STUFF page, and it was decided within five hours of being posted. I didn't even know it was on there until after it was already closed. It seems to me that it should be on there for at least a couple of days so that folks can know about it and discuss it. I'm not trying to be annoying about this, I just think that there are people who think that it is an intentional reference, and those people would have voted "Accept" if they'd known it was on the STUFF page. Even if the "Decline"'s still win, which I think they probably will, even with a longer vote, it seems unfair that there was such a brief window in which to actually vote. --[[User:Huitzilopochtli|Huitzilopochtli]] 21:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::This isn't the best place to discuss anyone's doubts in the STUFF process, but there were no supporting votes or arguments presented for that fact at all. The precedent in STUFF is that an item is "swiftly and unanimously declined" in that scenario. Surely ''someone'' would have supported it in that time frame if any numbers which could have outvoted at least 18 people were going to. I also want to point out that the STUFF notice was appropriately placed in the Fun Facts section. Anyone who wanted to review the STUFFed fact had that opportunity in that time frame - a high-activity time frame, as it happens. Again, out of all the registered users who could have, none supported it. Anyway, I think the fact was given a fair hearing and could never have achieved acceptance based on the way it went.
:::::Additionally, there's no purpose in holding a vote open if the outcome is clear. This is not like a presidential election or anything, where our future and security ride in the balance, and stopping voting early because there's a clear outcome is a violation of voters' rights. This is a STUFF vote for the purpose of determining consensus. Once consensus is reached, there's no reason to continue the exercise. Not that others' votes are unwanted, but because they are unneeded. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I also feel that the STUFF process should have longer voting windows; I had no idea that this process even existed, and by the time I found out, it was too late. In addition, I can't wait until someone hears from the Brothers Chaps that it was, in fact, a reference to Bubb Rubb.[[User:Maristredfox|Maristredfox]] 21:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:Duly noted. Almost all STUFF items are open for a minimum of 3-4 days, and even longer if there isn't at least a 10-vote difference by that point. In cases where there is about a 20-vote difference before then, however, they are promptly closed. These guidelines have worked well so far, so we'll keep following them. However, we'll try to be sensitive to ensuring that the minority has had a fair chance to voice their position.

:Have you tried [mailto:brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com emailing the Brothers Chaps]? I'm not sure that they'd respond about this, but it couldn't hurt... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

::I fail to see how anyone could think that this is NOT a reference to the whistling muffler guy. There was no point to Bubs's story except to bring out the tube, that was the culmination of his story, and there was no reference after it. Either they went on his story diversion simply so they could say "the word 'Bubs' rhymes with 'rub' and for no apparent reason his name is on the label...." Or...since this is TBC, they made a diversion for an inside joke\cultural reference\past references. That's what they do. This is a reference.--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 22:02, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, it's possibly a reference. "Possible" references are not notable because they'd be innumerable -- limited only by our collective imagination. Hey, there was a dartboard in the "Cheers" bar, so the dartboard must be a Cheers reference! The fact is, none of us are mind readers (I think), and the BUBRUB joke still works even if you never heard of Bubb Rubb, so it's a superfluous reference at best. I doubt TBC will ever tell; they're too busy laughing at us. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 00:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:Re the comment "I can't wait until someone hears from the Brothers Chaps that it was, in fact, a reference to Bubb Rubb" - this has indeed happened in the past, where a STUFFed fact's status was overturned by incontrovertible evidence. Of course, the STUFF process is not perfect. But, no amount of voting by us can accurately divine what TBC's intentions were. We do the best we can, and that's about all we can do. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coldson like Molson? ==

Could the Coldson Lite can be a reference to Molson beer?
:Yes. The connection is already mentioned on the [[Cold Ones]] page, actually. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Name ==

The name should be changed. I think something like "B.O.D.H." or "The Helmet Club" would be better until it shows up on the main page. I don't think ever and more was at all a significant part of the toon. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 20:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:We usually use the names as they appear on the [[HR:toons.html|official toons menu]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:: Oh yeah sorry. I hadn't cleared my cache and I didn't see anything on the toons menu. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 21:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar in the cast? ==

Should Homsar be in the Cast of Characters? It's a picture of him, not the actual Homsar, after all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 22:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yup, he's not there, and neither should he be. Linked in the stage directions is fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Only characters who actually are "acting" in the toon are in the cast, just like in real life. If you see a picture of the president on the wall of an office in a movie, is the president a cast member? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Legs?? ==
[[Image:Legs.png|thumb|60px|left]][[Image:NewestHomestar.png|thumb|60px]]
Did anyone watch this and think that Homestar's legs should have been visible a few times but were absent? Look at his...... waist, when he's backing away from the KoT, and also when they're doing the secret handshake. It's like they're not there. {{User:Salty/sig}} 22:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, freaky! Good eye, I'd add it, but you saw it first. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 00:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't see a problem at all. His legs are not as wide as his torso, and they are usually more to the back of his body. See pictures. I'm gonna remove the fact.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:::O.K., you're the sysoperson. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 22:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Erm, sysops aren't all-knowing, you know... Don't just accept my opinion because I'm a sysop.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I know, I just wanted to joke a little. And say Sysoperson. Sorry, I know you're normal people. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]
== The bar in the basement ==

Just a note: in this toon, a stairway leading upwards from [[the bar]] is revealed. So, it's likely that the bar is in the basement of some other building.
#Perhaps the most logical building for it to be the basement of is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], as it is a commercial establishment and TBC alluded to the possibility of exploring it further after Bubs descended into it in [[geddup noise]] (see the DVD commentary).
#Another possibility is that Homestar leaves the meeting to go take a bath in what appears to be the [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (in which we have [[Homestar Presents: Presents|previously seen]] an old-fashioned bathtub. So, it might seem that the bar is in the basement of the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. However, this seems unlikely since we have seen much of that basement already ([[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strong Bad's Room]]).
#Finally, it's possible that the bar is in the basement of [[Homestar Runner's House]]. In this case, it would seem that the bathroom Homestar goes to is his own, and that he, like Strong Bad has both an old-fashioned bathtub and a shower in his bathroom. Facts supporting this point of view are (a) Homestar has been seen most of the other appearances of the bar with Pom Pom, (b) it would make sense for Homestar to take a bath in his own tub, and (c) if Homestar is the Supreme Overlord of the [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets|Broternal Order]], it would make sense (though is not necessary) that he would hold meetings in his basement.

I think that one of these is intended, since they took the time to draw the staircase, but I'm not sure which one it is (I lean toward #1 and #3). Perhaps we'll have to wait for more data in future toons to decide. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd have to go with numbah one. It's a cool idea and makes perfect sense...Well, as much as a bald guy with no arms or pants. (Strong Mad) [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]

:It's too easy to poke holes in these arguments though. Couldn't [[The Bar]] just be on X floor and the stairs lead up to X+1 floor? Why assume a basement? And why assume the bathroom is in the same building? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, there are too many unknowns to say anything for sure. It does seem like a basement though, as it lacks windows all around the room, and it's common for homes to have small bars or masculine-looking dens in their basements. Nevertheless, like you said, the arguments don't hold water on their own. We'll have to see if TBC ever address it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Until such time as we have a shred of evidence to go on, I've termed it "The Meetingplace of the Broternal Order" and left it at that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::No, it's still [[The Bar]] that they're in. The same one as [[Theme Song Video]] and [[Summer Short Shorts]]. It's the same wood paneling, the same lamp, the same dartboard, and the same pennant on the wall. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== tricycle recipe ==

here is a recipe for a tricycle fron surflounge.com/recipes
*Tricycle (TX Shooter)
**Equal parts:
**Midori
**Malibu
**Banana Liquer
**Milk
**Do not over pour milk or drink will suck!

 ive never heard of a tricycle recipe, but here one is...{{User:Csours/sig}} 01:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

==songs==

That club song is a recycled tune. The last time we heard it (last email) Homestar was hanging upside down singing "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out." & the easter egg song was from Disney's 'Duck Tales'.
:"The NeverEnding Story"? Don't think that's so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out" does sound kinda like "ever and more, ever and more, ever and more". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think it does. They sound somepletely different to me. The only similarity is repeating a phrase three times. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 02:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Homestar in the bathtub is a reference to DuckTales, and Homestar hanging upside down is a reference to The Never Ending Story. Ever and More was last used in [[the movies]] and should be mentioned under [[songs]]. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]

==Pirates of the Carribean==

If it was checkable, I'd bet money that the brothers chaps had that new pirates of the carribean movie as inspiration here. Anyone know what I'm talking about? [[User:68.44.199.208|68.44.199.208]] 02:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:Not me, but fraternal organizations are a common entity in the US, so likely not a direct reference to any one film. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Having seen the movie, I see absolutely no connection whatsoever, but maybe that's just me. Not only is there no seen in the movie where there is a bathtub of gold, but none of the storyline or names are represented at all. No multiple manifestations of the main character, Marzipan is not used to represent either of the two major female characters who make the movie. Besides the fact that there is a closeknit brotherhood, drinking, group singing, and gold-- all reminiscent of virtually every pirate show since Pirates of Penzance, what part here makes you think of Pirates?--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 17:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:I really doubt it. It reminds me of the Flintstones more than PotC (after all, the Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes wear funny helmets). Plus, this wasn't a group of bellicose chieftains trying to save their kind: it was a meeting of a fraternal organization. If it were checkable, I'd bet money that they didn't have PotC in mind. :) [[User:Pensivepoet.babblingbard|Pensivepoet.babblingbard]] 18:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Brother of Town ==

This is like the first time that anyone's ever treated the King of Town with any respect at all. Homestar invited him up to demonstrate a secret handshake with them. Maybe this is just cuz he's the only one who could actually DO a 'secret handshake' since neither of em have hands. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Seems fairly obvious, to me, that the KoT was simply chosen for the joke - he's the only main character present besides Homestar with no hands. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:: My first thought when Homestar said "handshake" was that Marzipan'd turn up, but I guess she wouldn't be in a brotherhood, what with the whole "female" thing and such... and I doubt Homsar would be able to pull off the whole handshake thing... so yeah, that only leaves KoT, out of the main 12. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::When Strong Bad and The Cheat practice it, they don't use their hands/arms, even though they ''clearly'' have them. A lack of visible arms is apparently not a factor. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::::I think the joke is the have no visible arms, and then we see Strong Bad and The Cheat practice as if they also had no visible arms. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Rollover Minutes ==

It has been suggested we discuss this before STUFFing it. What do you think about keeping this as a reference to at&t (formerly Cingular) Wireless' Rollover feature? It is obviously true, but it could be taken by some readers as an advertisement for the company. Thoughts? I am for keeping it personally.
[[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Who, precisely, are you arguing with? I don't see that there's any disagreement over this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't think the advertising factor is a problem — we're listing factual information to help explain the toon and linking to a non-commercial website. So, I think it should be okay. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:PDG, I notice that you put on the STUFF page that this fact was added and removed. It was not removed; it was moved to a different place in Fun Facts. I think that might be the source of any confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I didn't think to look to see if it had been moved first. My bad guys for pouring Fweska over the entry. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 16:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Helmet ==

I have serious doubts on calling Coach Z's helmet a "Gladiator Helmet." The only distinctly gladiator helmet I know of is the Murmillo (fishman) helmet, and that certainly wasn't one. It kinda looks Greek (300 reference maybe?), but I'd guess it's either that or an early middle ages helmet (Saxon is what comes into my head). It's the nose guard. Not prevalent in a lot of roman helmets. I'm not extremely well informed on the subject, but it's just my thoughts, and I think it should probably just be called an iron war helmet or something.
:It's a barbute. Google it for pictures. Closest medieval helmet I could find, but the shape is distinct enough that I can say, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Coach Z's helmet was a barbute -- and therefore I edited this page and the Order's page.
::<s>I disagree. Wikipedia provides pictures way different from Coach Z's helmet. Although, I also have no idea what it could be. First thing I think of is knights of the medieval times...</s> Nope, nevermind. [[Wikipedia:Barbute|Wikipedia's]] description definitely shows Coach Z's helmet is a barbute. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Burping video game music ==

Strong Bad's comment about burping video game music reminded me immediately of Wakko Warner from [[Wikipedia:Animaniacs|Animaniacs]]'s performances burping out various songs, enough that I thought it could be a reference. I don't know if such a gag was specific to Wakko, though, so I thought I'd bring it up here first. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

looking old

Atomic1fire — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:35:14 GMT

Atomic1fire: /* Real World References */

{{sbenav|164|what I want|some kinda robot}}

[[Image:sbe164.png|thumb|"Are you telling me the nightly nacho cheese masks aren't working?"]]

Strong Bad is in need of an image overhaul.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] (Easter egg), {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Homsar}}, {{film|Gavin}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Garage]], [[Living Room of the Brothers Strong]], [[Strong Sad's Room]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' January 22, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:18

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{slowly}'' Boom, tick. Tick-a-tick-a-tick, email. Boom, tick. Tick-a-tick-a-tick, What? Didgeri—
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: looking old?</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
You really do look old, how old are you anyways? 
 
Your faithful fan, 
Andy Hsiao, Taiwan
</blockquote>
''{Strong Bad reads the sender's name as "Andy, H-S-I-A-O and sometimes Y, from Taiwan."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Look Andyman, my age is a closely guarded secret, protected by a sect of closely guarded monks high atop the Coches Mountains. ''{clears screen}'' They would no sooner dance with a goat than divulge my age. But they ''will'' bake you some crustly guarded bread! Anyways, whattaya mean I look old? Are you telling me the nightly nacho cheese masks aren't working?

''{As he says this, cut to a shot of Strong Bad in the bathroom, looking in the mirror. His face is covered in nacho cheese, and he then covers his eyes with two corn chips, with jalapeño slices on them. Cut back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I can't have the young peoples thinking I'm old! Am I really losing the youth vote? This calls for an EMERGENCY MARKETING MEETING!!!

''{Zoom out to a full view of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{imitating a siren}'' Whaaa-donk. Click-click-click-click-click-click-click.

''{Cut to The Cheat watching TV.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{echoing voice-over}'' This is not a drill.

''{The Cheat gets off the couch and walks off. Cut to a silhouette view of Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{echoing voice-over}'' Whaaa-donk. Click-click-click-click-click-click-click. This is not a drill.

''{Bubs leaves the concession stand and walks off. Cut to Strong Bad at a desk. There is an easel in the background holding a piece of paper labelled "EMERGENCY MARKETING MEETING!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thank you all for coming on short ''such'' notice. You represent the best, the brightest, the people I hate the least. 'Cept you, Marzipan. You're here because of legal reasons.

'''MARZIPAN:''' We're ditty!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now what I need is an image overhaul. Something to reconnect me with the youth of today. Something that says—

''{Zoom in on the easel, the front piece of paper is moved away, revealing a badly-drawn picture of Strong Bad on a skateboard and another person on roller skates, with the caption:}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "Sup my young parsons, I too am so on the go that I drink my yogurt from a tube". Now what have ya got?

''{Cut to The Cheat with an overhead projector. He puts on a transparency:}''
<blockquote style="width: 20em">
<div style="text-align: center; margin-bottom: 1em">'''YOUTH THROUGH''' ''EDITING''</div>
*''QUICK'' '''CUTS'''
*''INCESSANT'' '''MUSIC'''
*''DISORIENTING'' '''CLOSE-UPS'''
</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Youth through editing, huh? I'm on board, I'm not bored. So, how would it work?

''{The Cheat hits a button on a remote control, and plays a remixed version of the email. Behind everything is techno music consisting of a drum track and occasional The Cheat noises. Several quick repetitions of Strong Bad bringing up the email play, with the tilt angle changing and zooming in on the screen further on each one. Cut to a shot of Strong Bad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dijjery–dear—

''{Cut to an extreme close-up of Strong Bad's eyes, moving across the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dijjery–dear—

''{Cut to an extreme close-up of Strong Bad's mouth, upside-down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dijjery–dear Strong Bad.

''{Cut to a side-on shot of Strong Bad at the computer desk, with the left side of the screen mirrored onto the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You really do look old.

''{The last two lines of the email on the computer screen slide into the top third of the screen, Strong Bad's hands on the keyboard slide into the bottom third, and a closeup of Strong Bad's eyes slides into the centre third.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Your faithful fan—

''{The top and bottom thirds slide away, revealing the rest of Strong Bad's face.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —from Taiwan.

''{Pan across Strong Bad's hands on the computer. As he types, "<tt>]Look Andyman,</tt>" appears in large letters along the top of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look Andyman,

''{Slowly zoom in on the computer screen, tilted at an angle, as Strong Bad types.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' My age is a closely guarded secret,

''{Tracking lines appear and the shot rewinds to just after "Look Andyman," was typed. Then a split-screen shot, in all four corners is the same shot of Strong Bad, each with a different colour tint – red in the top left, yellow in the top right, green in the lower left and blue in the lower right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Anyways—

''{A normal shot of Strong Bad typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —whattaya—

''{A close-up of Strong Bad's mouth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —mean I—

''{A close-up of Strong Bad's typing hands.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —look—

''{A side view of Strong Bad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —old?

''{A close-up of the power point under the desk. Then static, and we return to Strong Bad at the emergency marketing meeting. Disorienting sound effects play in the background, and Strong Bad is having trouble looking straight.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh... The Cheat... I don't know whether to puke or have a seizure...

''{A piece of paper is put on the easel, with silhouettes of Strong Bad throwing up and seizing, labelled "STYLE 1" and "STYLE 2". Cut to Bubs, who has a folder labelled "'''GOO'''<del>BA</del>D IDEAS"}''

'''BUBS:''' Well, I've been noticing how kids love anything with a lowercase "i" in front of it. It's working great for me down at the Concession Stand!

''{Cut to the concession stand, on the desk there is a sign reading "<del>1</del>0% OFF ALL iTems!" Pull back to see Homestar Runner and Homsar standing in line.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{to Homsar}'' Hey, Homestar. What color iTem are you gonna get?

''{Cut back to the meeting}''

'''BUBS:''' We could try iStrong, or iBad...

'''STRONG BAD:''' We already tried that with lowercase "e"s back in the late '90s. We all know where that got us.

''{Cut to a large number of boxes, all labelled "eStrong Vague Online Investments". The wind can be heard blowing through, and Gavin walks in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Next.

''{Cut to Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I came up with a few ways to spruce up your look, and add hundreds to your resell value.

''{Marzipan pulls out a piece of paper with a diagram of Strong Bad's head on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{monotone}'' I am legally obligated to ask you to proceed.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thanks.

''{Zoom in on the diagram of Strong Bad's head. As Marzipan suggests changes, they appear on the diagram.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' First we're gonna start with a flagstone path leading up to your chin, right here. Then we'll fill the negative space around your head with Forsythia and maybe some Alberta spruce. And last, we install a water feature right here, ''{Strong Bad's forehead}'' which I think will create a great focal point for entertaining summer guests. ''{some outdoor tables and a deck chair appear}''

''{Cut back to the meeting.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this'll work great, Marzipan. If I was a ''BACKYARD''!

''{He says this last word so loud that a strong wind blows out his mouth, blowing Marzipan's hair around and rippling her cheeks.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Next.

''{Strong Mad pulls out a card, labelled "were a diaper", a diaper with Nebulon pictures on it hanging from the middle from what is labelled "dupp tape", and pictures on the right of "grass", "rocks" and "mounds".}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' WEAR A DIAPER!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, nice try, bo-hwee-moth, but that's a little younger than I was looking ''{pronounced as loo-king}'' to go. These are all terrible ideas! What am I not paying you people for, anyway? It's time to resort to extreme measures. With Gene Hackman. It's time for a lace lift!

''{A new piece of paper lands on the easel, with a diagram of the back of Strong Bad's head, an arrow pointing away from the shoelace knot at the bottom of the laces, and the caption "PULL THOSE SUCKAS TIGHT".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! Strong Mad! Prep for surgery!

''{Cut to the lounge room, Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat enter from above wearing surgical gowns and masks.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright, on three.

''{Cut to behind Strong Bad, Strong Mad is holding the shoelace knot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' One... Two... Aah!

''{Strong Mad pulls the strings, deforming Strong Bad's head, and stretching out all of his facial features. His mouth is severely stretched, and his speech is mumbled and subtitled.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, yeah. I feel at least 10 years younger. Time to go relate to some 18-24 year olds!

''{Strong Bad walks to the dining room, where Strong Sad is sitting staring at a plate of food with some peas and corn which he has lined up neatly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello, my fellow young person! ''{The subtitles read "What's up, my fellow young parson?"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hey Great Grandma. When did you get here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not Great Grandma. I'm a young person, like you. I eat my yogurt from a tube.

'''STRONG SAD:''' (smiling, amused) That's right! You eat everything through a tube! Well, let's get you back to the home.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait! I'm a hip young person!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yes, I saw your new hip! It looks great!

''{Strong Sad leads the complaining Strong Bad out of the room.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Why don't you tell me again about the time the Depression fought Abraham Lincoln naked in your front yard?

''{The Paper comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Strong Bad's Age.png|thumb|A closely guarded secret]]
*When Strong bad is talking about the sect of closely guarded monks, click on the words 'closely guarded monks' to see the Three Keepers of Trogdor atop a mountain with lightning and treasure.
* Click on 'crustly guarded bread' to see a sample of [[Crustly Guarded Bread|the bread]].
* Click on the diaper to see a plane fly across the top of the screen with 'WEAR A DIAPER!' towed behind it.
* At the end, click on the fork to see Homestar in the eStrong warehouse:
: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{echoing voice}'' I'll take it! I'll take 12!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:Rhytidectomy|facelift]] is a [[Wikipedia:Cosmetic surgery|cosmetic surgery]] procedure where excess skin is removed from the face, to remove wrinkles.
*"H, s, i, a, o, and sometimes y" refers to the Latin [[Wikipedia:Vowel#Written vowels|vowels]], which are sometimes listed as "a, e, i, o, u, and sometimes y".
*''"Chai"'' means "[[Wikipedia:Chai|tea]]" in [[Wikipedia:Hindi|Hindi]] and "[[Wikipedia:Chai (symbol)|life]]" in [[Wikipedia:Hebrew|Hebrew]]. The ch in the Hindi word is read as a [[Wikipedia:Voiceless postalveolar affricate|Voiceless postalveolar affricate]], but the Hebrew ch is read as a [[Wikipedia:Voiceless uvular fricative|Voiceless uvular fricative]]. "[[Wikipedia:L'Chaim|L'Chaim]]" is a Hebrew toast meaning "cheers", or more literally, "to life." The tea Marzipan drinks is also certified [[Wikipedia:kosher|kosher]], meaning that it meets Jewish dietary guidelines.
*The "nightly nacho cheese masks" appear to be a type of [[Wikipedia:facial|facial]]. Usually, [[Wikipedia: avocado|avocado]] is used.

===Trivia===
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#drakkhen|drakkhen]]".
*This is the first time the Strongs' [[Parents|great-grandmother]] is mentioned.
*This is the first email sent from Asia.

===Remarks===
*During the Cheat's remixed version of the intro, clicking on the Lappy's screen will still produce the usual distortion effect.
**However, on some shots, the distortion effect is dimmer than usual.
**It doesn't work when there are closeups on Strong Bad's [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|typing]].

===Goofs===
[[Image:Looking Old Goof.PNG|thumb|"Yes, you eat ''everything'' through a tube."]]
*When Strong Sad is walking "to the home", his closed mouth is visible under his round mouth.

===Glitches===
*When Marzipan closes her eyes, you can see a dot flash near them. This is because she blinks every four seconds or so, and with her eyes closed, she attempts to blink over her closed eyes. The effect can easily be observed if the email is paused while her eyes are closed.

===Inside References===
*The music that plays when Strong Bad summons his "marketing staff" was originally used in [[candy product]] when he described the [[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar]].
*[[Nebulon]] appears on the diaper and uses the same art from [[best thing]].
*The "WEAR A DIAPER!" Easter egg is a reference to [[Wear a Bikini!]], especially [[Main Page 3]].
*The music that plays when Strong Bad is mistaken for his great-grandmother was first used in [[portrait]].
*"I'll take it! I'll take twelve!" is a direct line from [[garage sale]].
*Part of the suspenseful [[cliffhangers|cliffhanger]] music is used when Strong Bad reveals his plan for a lace lift.
*The Coches Mountains were previously mentioned in [[geddup noise]]. ''(see also Real-World References)''

===Real World References===
[[Image:Strong Bad Andy Warhol.png|thumb|A [[Wikipedia:Pop art|pop artist]]'s take on the wrestleman]]
*Eating your yogurt from a tube is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Go-Gurt|Go-Gurt]], a brand of "portable yogurt", or "Yo on the go".
**In the case of Canada, it refers to Yoplait Tubes.
*The "items with a [[Lowercase i's|lowercase I]] before it" refers to Apple's many products with that naming scheme, such as the [[Wikipedia:iPod|iPod]], [[Wikipedia:iMac|iMac]] and [[Wikipedia:iPhone|iPhone]].
*[[Wikipedia:Extreme Measures|Extreme Measures]] is a 1996 thriller starring [[Wikipedia:Gene Hackman|Gene Hackman]].
*"Didgeri-Dear Strong Bad" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Didgeridoo|didgeridoo]], an instrument used by Australian Aborigines.
*The split-screen shot with Strong Bad in four different color tints refers to [[Wikipedia:Andy Warhol|Andy Warhol]]'s art.
*Strong Bad's "alarm" sound is an imitation of the alarm heard in the NES version of [[Wikipedia:Maniac Mansion|Maniac Mansion]] when you turn on the water valve.
*The "items with lowercase E before it" refer to the common marketing technique in the late 90's to attach "e" as in "electronic" to a product to ride the coattails of the burgeoning e-commerce industry, which took the "e" in its name from electronic mail, email.
**The "eStrong Vague Online Investments", and the apparent failure of eStrong are references to the [[Wikipedia:dot-com bubble|dot-com bubble]].
*Las Coches Mountain is in the [[Wikipedia: Sierra Madre Mountains (California)| Sierra Madres]].
*"I feel at least 10 years younger," could be a reference to the makeover show [[Wikipedia: Ten_years_younger|10 Years Younger]], where nominees are madeover for a week in attempts to shave off years from their appearance.
* I am legally obligated to ask you to proceed as said by strong bad is probably something to do with gender equality and womens rights

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