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BegyLips — Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:44:20 GMT

BegyLips: /* Trivia Replaced'd fact*/

[[Image:sbemail_opera.png|thumb|SBEMAIL: The Musical]]

'''Strong Bad Email #125'''

Strong Bad sings his rock opera 'SBEMAIL!'.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Anonymous]], [[Tompkins]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Coach Z]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[Grape Nuts Robot]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Homsar]], [[King of Town]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] (easter egg)

'''Date:''' February 22, 2005

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Checkin' email and take it to the flipside! !edispilf eht ot ti ekat dna liame 'nikcehC

<pre>
subject: rock opera

Strong Bad,
I think it's high time you composed a rock opera. You
simply owe it to society. What should it be about?
That's up to you.
Best Wishes,
Anonymous Contributor
Gambier, OH
</pre>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "Contributor" as "ContribuTOR" and "OH" as "hhhough"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, poor guy. ''{typing}'' Hey! Mr. and Mrs. Contributor, way to name your kid! I can only imagine the taunts and jabs the kids on the playground musta come up with.

''{A piece of notebook paper appears onscreen with Teen Girl Squad-esque drawings on it. On it are drawings of a swingset, Strong Bad, and Anonymous, who looks suspiciously like Strong Sad with a question mark for a face. Anonymous is kicking a soccerball}''

'''NOTEBOOK STRONG BAD:''' Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a poem or something and not attribute it to yourself!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or like

''{The paper switches out. This one features Anonymous with his hands glued to his butt, Strong Bad, and Tompkins}''

'''NOTEBOOK STRONG BAD:''' Yo Anonny! Maybe try calling the cops and giving them some valuable information to help solve a crime without revealing your own identityyyy!

''{The paper disappears offscreen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh. Kids can be so cruel. ''{clears screen, resumes typing}'' OK, back on task. To tell you the truth, you guys have already heard mosta my rock opera. I've been composing it over the last three and a half years. It's simply entitled "SBEMAIL!" ''{A poster for SBEMAIL! appears onscreen}'' And the lyrics consist of one word from each of my 125 emails! ''{The poster disappears}'' Now, it may not make a whole lotta sense but when have I ever backed down from a bad idea, right? Now let's get this train-wreck a-rollin'!

''{Cut to some curtains, which open, beginning the opera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Join me on my single—

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
hundred—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
toilet dreams picture. 
Everybody wanna scam some sweet bucks or potential—

'''LITTLE STRONG BAD:''' 
pizza. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Oh! Oh! Ummm. Nevermind. 
Ummm... double—

'''COACH Z:''' 
pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Awesome, awesome fancy danish. 
Professional funky totally diggity-underdrawers. 
Oh tonight,—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
cool,—

'''MARZIPAN:''' 
healthy,—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
ones, eh? 
Whatever action baby actually went jibblie. 
Oooh! Oh. Party like completely great, good. 
Down town ladies get consummate—

'''MARZIPAN:''' 
yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Awkward sweet peaches crackin' action! 
Wha-Ho! Problematic. 
Solid jumble!

'''GRAPE NUTS ROBOT:''' 
Crazy—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
beans double the real gold! 
Computer—

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
internet—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
bulging—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
out.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Yeah, oh! 
Dynomite afterparty! 
Like, fangoriously world-class and—

'''POWERED-BY-THE-CHEAT STRONG BAD:''' 
grand.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Ooooh! Oh!

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
Ewww!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Oh-ho-ho-ho! Definitely, definitely—

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' 
baby.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
Yup,—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
I totally—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
always—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
look awesome singing backwards metal. 
Experience dance tonight! Unh! 
Oooh! I'm pleasant. 
Positate without pizzaz and—

'''STINKOMAN:''' 
jam!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Whoa! 
Tonight equals dancing,

'''STRONG SAD AS THE DEATHLY PALLOR:''' 
yeah!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Famous—

'''FEMALE LAPPY:''' 
ladies—

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
always like—

'''ALL:''' 
SBEMAIL!

''{The screen fades to black and the SBEMAIL! poster slides down from the top of the screen. Cut to the Lappy. Strong Bad is clapping and making crowd noises with his mouth while roses are being thrown on him from off camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bravo! Encore! Encore! �ndale! �ndale! Arriba! Arriba! ''{typing}'' Thank you! Thank you! The rave reviews are already pouring in! It's only a matter of time before the chicks ''{actually comes out as "It's only a msyyer pd tun/ blegfr teh chekts"}'' -uh.

''{The camera pulls out, and we see The Cheat on the computer desk holding a rose}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat... ixnay on the cut-it-out-throwing-roses-at-me! ...may.

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh!

''{The Cheat throws his rose at Strong Bad's face and it sticks there}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Augh! ''{clutches his face, starts flailing his limbs wildly}'' Rose face! ROSE FACE!!! ''{falls off his stool}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy, where the Paper comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click ''rave reviews'' to see some reviews of Sbemail:
**"SBEMAIL! Is a Triumph of Some Sort!!!" "It will leave you you wanting MORE, MORE, MORE!" -(Perhaps)The Deke
**"A million stars!!!" -Age 7
**"SBEMAIL! is better than a goat!!" - The biscuitdoughhandsman Review

* Click ''Pouring in'' to see a poster for SBEMAIL!
:"an off13 broadway rock opera from the man who brought you 'dangeresque: put em on ice!'"
**While on the poster, click 'Dangereresque: put em on ice' to see a clip of Dangeresque: Put 'Em On Ice!
::''{Cut to somewhere in The Field in winter, with a small ice pond in the foreground. Strong Bad (as Dangeresque) skates in from the right}''
::'''DANGERESQUE:''' So I'm gonna have to jum-
::''{Dangeresque falls through the ice.}''
::'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Meh! ''{throws a rose onto the ice}''
* Click the invisible ''Encore'' on the bottom-right of the Lappy screen to see the rock opera again.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
* This is the first time where we see Strong Bad's whole body walking towards the viewer.
* This is the first email where all twelve main characters appear in person. (The Poopsmith and Pom-Pom were only on playing cards in [[your friends]] and [[different town]], respectively.)

=== Remarks ===
*The email rap and the flipside version are clips of Strong Bad saying the same thing, but they are different versions of it. If you reverse the clip, the most obvious difference is that the flipside version doesn't have a pause after the word "email."

=== Goofs ===
* You can still click the contrast buttons on the Tandy while the opera is playing.
* When roses are being thrown with the Lappy in the background, you can't see the reflection of the roses on the Lappy screen.
* The Poopsmith, Bubs and Pom Pom all remain motionless when the cast yells "SBEMAIL!", though it may be that the Poopsmith is silent on purpose, courtesy of his vow of silence.
* When the cast yells "SBEMAIL!" Strong Mad's mouth appears on Homsar's torso for a few seconds.
* Though not noticeable without zooming in, once everyone has finished yelling "SBEMAIL!", Homsar's lip comes between Homestar's torso and his head; more specifically, in front of the head, and behind the torso.

=== Inside References ===
* The shoes that walk across the screen are the back button of the old main page.
* On the second making-fun-of-Anonymous piece-of-paper, Anonymous has his hands glued to his butt, which also happened to Strong Sad in the e-mail [[1 step ahead]].
* The [[Teen Girl Squad]] character Tompkins can be found on the second making-fun-of-Anonymous piece-of-paper, in his miniaturized form from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
* When Strong Bad's typing starts going awry as The Cheat is throwing roses at him, he types "the chicks" as "teh chekts", a reference to the immediately preceding Strong Bad E-mail [[secret recipes]].
* When Strong Bad appears to have two electric guitars sticking out of his head, it's a reference to the cover art for the CD [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
* Strong Bad sitting in the chair swirling the wine in the cup is modeled after a similar scene from the Powered-by-the-Cheat music video [[Everybody to the Limit]].
**Strong Bad also swirls his wine in [[montage]].
* The action figures of Strong Sad and Strong Bad are from the Strong Bad Email [[action figure]].
* The pants Coach Z temporarily dons seem to be modeled after [[Rather Dashing]]'s short pants.
* The background of the area with the pyramid of gold bars (pre-explosion) is taken directly from [[RhinoFeeder]].
* The "Goodtime Palace" is modeled after similar scenes from [[animal]] and even features [[Baby Styles]].
* The picture of the "Hardest Guitar Chord Ever" comes from [[privileges]].
* The jogging pixellated Strong Bad is originally from [[montage]].
* Club Technochocolate is originally from [[extra plug]].
* The rock music which starts at Club Technochocolate is based on ''The Cheat Is Not Dead'' from [[caper]].
* [[The Stage|The stage]] the entire cast is grouped on at the end is the same stage from [[A Decemberween Pageant]], among other holiday toons.
* The "biscuitdoughhandsman review" in the Easter Egg is yet another reference to everyone's favorite unapprehended villain, [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]].
* "The Deke" is originally from [[autobiography]].
* Strong Bad's dance move with [[Baby Styles]] is a reference to [[virus]] when he compliments Bubs for being a computer genius man.
* [[Vector Strong Bad]] makes an appearance, this time with rock and roll hair and a headband.
* "Sbemail" is a reference to the filename of every Strong Bad e-mail. Strong Bad also refers to this in [[unused emails]]

=== Real-World References ===
* Strong Bad's "�ndale! �ndale! Arriba! Arriba!" at the end is quoting the famous Warner Bros. cartoon mouse Speedy Gonzales, except backwards as Speedy usually says Arriba! Arriba! �ndale! �ndale!
* The electric guitars in the opera are (or are modeled after) Gibson Flying Vs.
* The amps are modeled after Marshall stacks, but instead of "Marshall," the logo reads "An Amp". These were also used in [[different town]], but labelled "Marzipan".
*Sbemail, in containing multiple sections of different styles, is remiscent of such songs as the Who's "A Quick One, While He's Away" and (more famously) Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody."

== See Also ==
*The [[rock opera context|context]] for all of the words from rock opera

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail125.html view "rock opera"] 
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail125.swf view the flash file for "rock opera"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2072 forum re: "rock opera"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]] [[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] [[Category: Tompkins Filmography]] [[Category: Stinkoman Filmography]] [[Category: Strong Sad Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]] [[Category: Coach Z Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]] [[Category: The Poopsmith Filmography]] [[Category: Bubs Filmography]] [[Category: Strong Mad Filmography]] [[Category: Homsar Filmography]] [[Category: The King of Town Filmography]] [[Category: Pom Pom Filmography]] [[Category: Dangeresque Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:44:12 GMT

BegyLips: /* rock opera Placed fact back*/

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
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* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
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The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[Everybody Knows It]] ===

Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.
*'''Weak decline.''' Has there ever been any evidence that homestar really doesn't wear shoes? I think those are his shoes. Whatever. If you gimme any proof that Homestar doesn't wear shoes, I'll switch my answer. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:35, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I don't think the slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents are evidence one way or the other, since it could be argued that those are being worn over his shoes/feet, but on the other hand I've never seen anything to indicate that Homestar's shoes are his feet. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 15:36, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar wears slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents. Therefore his shoes are just shoes. →[[User:Star4ever|Star4ever]] 12:06, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''. What does this have to do with the 'Everybody Knows It' cartoon, anyway? [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:37, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**At the end, Homestar says something about the cheat putting dog food in his shoes →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:40, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' In [[New Boots]] when Homestar comes on, he askes for his shoe, and is wearing a sock. However, it ''is'' cheat made, so there is some question.--[[User:Saddy Dumpington's Soolnds|Saddy]] 17:56, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Also, if the cheat gave strong Bad underwears, ya never know.

===[[time capsule]]===

The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.

*'''Decline''' I don’t see the connection. The gross old wig looks '''way''' different from the Cobain wig. --[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:37, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:34, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I'll '''Second''' that till i cant '''Second''' it no more. Just because you WANT to put a fun fact doesn't mean you have to make stuff up. [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

===[[secret recipes]]===

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Strong Bad's Poopaw====

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

*'''Decline''' This is addressed at the bottom of the page in another vote. We don't need any more of these "this is the first time that *so-and-so* does/says/reveals *thus-and-such*. Besides the line "one of the first four times" already makes this non-unique as a "fun fact" and therefore not fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' "Homestar does not have a stupid uncle Egg". C'mon folks, the brothers Chap are making fun of people that make fun facts like this. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' "Any other relatives besides Strong Sad"? What about Strong Mad? Even if the "fact" were revised to mention Strong Mad along with Strong Sad, though, it still wouldn't be noteworthy enough to be worth accepting. --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:07, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:00, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:52, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Revise, Accept.''' You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
**Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
*'''Decline.''' This is stated clearly in the easter eggs section. --[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:54, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

*'''Decline.''' Just a song. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts. Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:55, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' It's just too bad we don't know what happened to SB's car between "No Loafing" and "Car"... maybe they will make a toon about it someday. It's also worth noting that SB had a car in "Dangeresque 3", so maybe he was between cars in the "Car" email. He must have had a car before that email, because he dressed up as CARmen twice for halloween.
**Please sign your vote for it to count. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:09, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** Do you WANT that vote to count?! Even if you agreed with the fact (which I see that you don't), would you really want someone that incoherent controlling what goes on the Wiki?! I'm neutral toward the fact but I'm half-tempted to turn my vote to decline out of protest for the joke votes! (Don't count that as a vote; I'm kidding.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:51, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
==== Politics ====
Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.
*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:01, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]] 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline!''' Are you serious? There's no way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''Accept''' This is what I first thought. [[User:KevDude|KevDude]]
*'''Accept''' I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:18, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Awesome sause is clearly a reference to awesome cross. For anyone to deny the connection of a rhyme is ridiculous. - badamn_187
**'''Decline, and ban badamn_187 from posting.'''Are you serious, or just plain stupid? '''DELETED!'''-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*acually they are bolth are rencecsa real cleener as staeted in the dvd comintary for this e-mail
**Um, what?-- [[User:Drake|Drake]]
*'''Accept.''' OK, with all the declines I'm sure this vote isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. To say you see "no connection whatsoever" is a bit silly; the phrases are obviously very similar in sound--the only phonetic difference is the "cr" being changed to an "s" sound. (And arguably the "x" to an "s", though it's debatable whether the X really affects the pronunciation of "Awexome".) The similarity could be coincidental, of course, but it could also be intentional--especially since the reference to a cleaner as a "sauce" is unusual enough to suggest there could be a reason for that specific word choice. (And I don't see the fact that there exists a real cleaner called "Awesome" as evidence against the matter at all; unless the cleaner's called "Awesome Sauce" there's still the possibility that the "sauce" was added as a reference to "Awexome Cross".) I'm not saying I'm convinced it necessarily is a reference; I'm just not quite as eager to dismiss the possibility out of hand as are the initial replies. Still, as I said, with all the "Declines" this vote is unlikely to make a difference, so oh well... -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:23, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' It very clearly is a reference to Formula 409. (Clorox is just the company that makes that product.) As others have said, this reference is so obvious to U.S. residents it might not be worth mentioning, except that apparently Formula 409 is unfamiliar to those outside the U.S. so the fact may be worth accepting for their benefit. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Verified Decline''' In the commentary of Funny on the DVD, TBC says that there actually IS a cleaner called Awesome. I've used it, too. --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 23:58, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Er...presumably this was intended in reference to "Awesome Sauce" above, and not to "409"? In which case, I don't see how this "verifies" anything; as I said in my reply there, the fact that there is a real cleaner called "Awesome" doesn't necessarily mean the "Sauce" wasn't added as a reference (though I admit of course it doesn't necessarily mean it was, either.) -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:25, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*you guys think about this stuff too much, cant it just be amusing, if only slightly? - badamn_187

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' A clear reference. [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline.''' A big, ''big'' stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
***Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
***So I've been misinformed all along, thx for clearing it up for me.

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 00:04, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --rather dashing

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]
**'''Second''' It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the ''prinicpal'' of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional. Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of unanimous voting, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 07:00, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 5 valid Decline votes and 4 valid Accept votes, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:47, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula (DECLINED)====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Pi (DECLINED)====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

'''VERDICT:''' Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Compy 386]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
**'''second''' -- [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Umm, so what? There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon. This should be removed. -- [[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Reynold appears in the toon when he fires the "Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket Reynold!"
**Like I said above, so what? There is no mention of "Reynold's Wrap" in the toon, and this "fun fact" is neither a fact, nor is it fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:02, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
* Not only '''DECLINE''' but discount all of the "accept" votes, since they're clearly joke votes (what does any of this have to do with the 'toon in question???) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:13, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
** <s>okay, I'll have a go at it... "Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack parallels the movie ''Ghostbusters II,'' where the geeky character Louis attempts to help the team by putting on a spare uniform." [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:34, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
***heh, whoops, looks like I'm a couple months too late. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:03, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== The Haiku Triad Rule ====
The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem. Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.

*'''Listen squirt''', who do you think you are? Because I am a MAJOR LEAGUE haiku writer, and I know for a fact that this "Haiku Triple" rule or whatever, doesn't exist! You want a fun fact, here I will '''revise''' your fun fact into a fun fact of my own:

:
Proposed "Haiku Triad Rule" Fun Fact is the biggest load
of melarkey, ever! Its author is one of the biggest
doodle-pad Haiku writers ever! Needless to say, the only
thing he/she knows "quite a bit" about is writing half-bit
haikus in a Bat Man Doodle Pad.

Let me be the first to give a vigorous '''Accept''' for this newly revised fun fact.

Look, repeating a syllable is not only allowed in a haiku, it is a
"literary device" that has contributed to some of the best Haikus
ever. I would give you an example, but I don't usually like to
release my work before it's been published, especially onto the
internet. But since you've basically cornered me into it, here is one
of my latest haikus, which will show you how repeating a syllable can
be a good idea:

:
Bee comes buzzing in
Flower flower, buzz buzz buzz
Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

Now if you will look carefully there, you'll see that I used the same
syllable not just three times in a row, but EIGHT times in a row, and
it only makes the poem a better reading experience. Observe and
learn. ---[[User:132.236.75.84|132.236.75.84]] 10:34, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Don't even''' call me a Doodle Pad. Don't even go there. Don't even.
*'''Will no-one sign their votes?''' ...er, that is, '''Neutral''', given that I'm not sure right this second. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:58, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space (DECLINED) ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"
*'''Delete''' I can't believe you actually thought that was notable. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment and general retraction of votes''' Okay, first of all, I still don't think it was that obvious. However, now that emailer nicknames are listed on the "sbemail by name" page (or maybe they always were and I never noticed) it seems a lot less useful, and I officially move to '''Neutral'''. Don't expect me to be so generous on the other facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:02, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline or rewrite''' When I first saw this, I not only noticed that Homestar called Dan "Jerome" but I also saw it as an OBVIOUS reference to the way Strong Bad changes e-mailers names around - since Homestar was trying to fill in for Strong Bad and copy him (i.e. trying to figure out what an abbreviation in the signature stands for), I saw this as Homestar attempting to answer e-mails like Strong Bad and deliberately changing the e-mailers name around. If anything, this particular fun fact ought to reflect the reference to Strong Bad doing the same with other e-mailers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Also, at the risk of advocating some forward referencing, I think it's notable that in the very next e-mail [[the process]], Strong Bad makes fun of Em's name in almost the exact same way that Homestar makes fun of FL. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Ketchup is ketchup is ketchup. That's like saying "The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his fries is the same ketchup Donald Trump likes on his." It's just ketchup. :P →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 03:59, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
*'''Weak Accept''': While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the [[montage]] page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED) ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPERDECLINE'''---DELEETED
*'''Accept.''' Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy. Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Accept.''' True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:24, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't care if this fact goes or not, but if it stays, please, please rewrite it. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' - Dingell
* '''Accept, maybe revise''' It IS Homestar's website after all...so of course there would be an email address for him. Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's. So he may have a computer... It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it. I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
** But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Decline''' Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual. The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== car ===

==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
** '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
** '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:08:25 GMT

BegyLips: /* rock opera */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[rock opera]] ===
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
*I put this here from the fun facts on the other page because I don't believe this is true. After watching the e-mail, it shows Strong Sad saying "Internet" way too early to have the e-mails be in order. If someone could provide proof that the fact is actually true, please do so. Until then I feel it should be here. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 10:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**I did some research into it. I copied and pasted the entire length of the rock opera into an e-mail window, then scanned every e-mail transcript looking for the words. I found 123 of the words in the actual emails, with the other two in Easter Eggs. Considering that the Easter Eggs are part of the e-mail, those count. Therefore, that is 125 words, IN ORDER, from 125 seperate emails. The statement is true. '''Accept.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]12:02, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Then how come when Strong Sad says "Internet" (from Virus), there are WAY more than 7 words after that? That would show the e-mails are not in order. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 13:06, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)Begylips
*** '''Accept''' Because it's NOT from virus!!! Haven't you checked the [[rock opera context]]? Strong Sad saying "Internet" comes from [[sibbie]]; "Some song I downloaded off the '''Internet'''." --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:13, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Ok fine, JAY. If I had known internet came up in another e-mail, from Strong Sad himself, I wouldn't have said that. Obviously I'm not as devoted to this as you are. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 14:08, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)BegyLips
*'''Weak accept.''' I mean, it's true and it might be important to know. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:12, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*The word that was came from [[virus]] wasn't Internet. It was "equals." You have to look over each word, in the order they came into the song, then scan the email transcripts (INCLUDING EGGS) in order to find the words. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[Everybody Knows It]] ===

Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.
*'''Weak decline.''' Has there ever been any evidence that homestar really doesn't wear shoes? I think those are his shoes. Whatever. If you gimme any proof that Homestar doesn't wear shoes, I'll switch my answer. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:35, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I don't think the slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents are evidence one way or the other, since it could be argued that those are being worn over his shoes/feet, but on the other hand I've never seen anything to indicate that Homestar's shoes are his feet. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 15:36, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar wears slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents. Therefore his shoes are just shoes. →[[User:Star4ever|Star4ever]] 12:06, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''. What does this have to do with the 'Everybody Knows It' cartoon, anyway? [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:37, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**At the end, Homestar says something about the cheat putting dog food in his shoes →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:40, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[time capsule]]===

The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.

*'''Decline''' I don’t see the connection. The gross old wig looks '''way''' different from the Cobain wig. --[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:37, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:34, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I'll '''Second''' that till i cant '''Second''' it no more. Just because you WANT to put a fun fact doesn't mean you have to make stuff up. [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

===[[secret recipes]]===

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Strong Bad's Poopaw====

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

*'''Decline''' This is addressed at the bottom of the page in another vote. We don't need any more of these "this is the first time that *so-and-so* does/says/reveals *thus-and-such*. Besides the line "one of the first four times" already makes this non-unique as a "fun fact" and therefore not fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' "Homestar does not have a stupid uncle Egg". C'mon folks, the brothers Chap are making fun of people that make fun facts like this. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' "Any other relatives besides Strong Sad"? What about Strong Mad? Even if the "fact" were revised to mention Strong Mad along with Strong Sad, though, it still wouldn't be noteworthy enough to be worth accepting. --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:07, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:00, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:52, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Revise, Accept.''' You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
**Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
*'''Decline.''' This is stated clearly in the easter eggs section. --[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:54, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

*'''Decline.''' Just a song. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts. Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:55, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' It's just too bad we don't know what happened to SB's car between "No Loafing" and "Car"... maybe they will make a toon about it someday. It's also worth noting that SB had a car in "Dangeresque 3", so maybe he was between cars in the "Car" email. He must have had a car before that email, because he dressed up as CARmen twice for halloween.
**Please sign your vote for it to count. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:09, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** Do you WANT that vote to count?! Even if you agreed with the fact (which I see that you don't), would you really want someone that incoherent controlling what goes on the Wiki?! I'm neutral toward the fact but I'm half-tempted to turn my vote to decline out of protest for the joke votes! (Don't count that as a vote; I'm kidding.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:51, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
==== Politics ====
Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.
*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:01, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]] 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline!''' Are you serious? There's no way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''Accept''' This is what I first thought. [[User:KevDude|KevDude]]
*'''Accept''' I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:18, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Awesome sause is clearly a reference to awesome cross. For anyone to deny the connection of a rhyme is ridiculous. - badamn_187
**'''Decline, and ban badamn_187 from posting.'''Are you serious, or just plain stupid? '''DELETED!'''-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*acually they are bolth are rencecsa real cleener as staeted in the dvd comintary for this e-mail
**Um, what?-- [[User:Drake|Drake]]
*'''Accept.''' OK, with all the declines I'm sure this vote isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. To say you see "no connection whatsoever" is a bit silly; the phrases are obviously very similar in sound--the only phonetic difference is the "cr" being changed to an "s" sound. (And arguably the "x" to an "s", though it's debatable whether the X really affects the pronunciation of "Awexome".) The similarity could be coincidental, of course, but it could also be intentional--especially since the reference to a cleaner as a "sauce" is unusual enough to suggest there could be a reason for that specific word choice. (And I don't see the fact that there exists a real cleaner called "Awesome" as evidence against the matter at all; unless the cleaner's called "Awesome Sauce" there's still the possibility that the "sauce" was added as a reference to "Awexome Cross".) I'm not saying I'm convinced it necessarily is a reference; I'm just not quite as eager to dismiss the possibility out of hand as are the initial replies. Still, as I said, with all the "Declines" this vote is unlikely to make a difference, so oh well... -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:23, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' It very clearly is a reference to Formula 409. (Clorox is just the company that makes that product.) As others have said, this reference is so obvious to U.S. residents it might not be worth mentioning, except that apparently Formula 409 is unfamiliar to those outside the U.S. so the fact may be worth accepting for their benefit. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Verified Decline''' In the commentary of Funny on the DVD, TBC says that there actually IS a cleaner called Awesome. I've used it, too. --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 23:58, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Er...presumably this was intended in reference to "Awesome Sauce" above, and not to "409"? In which case, I don't see how this "verifies" anything; as I said in my reply there, the fact that there is a real cleaner called "Awesome" doesn't necessarily mean the "Sauce" wasn't added as a reference (though I admit of course it doesn't necessarily mean it was, either.) -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:25, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*you guys think about this stuff too much, cant it just be amusing, if only slightly? - badamn_187

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' A clear reference. [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline.''' A big, ''big'' stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
***Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
***So I've been misinformed all along, thx for clearing it up for me.

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 00:04, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --rather dashing

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]
**'''Second''' It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the ''prinicpal'' of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional. Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of unanimous voting, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 07:00, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 5 valid Decline votes and 4 valid Accept votes, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:47, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula (DECLINED)====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Pi (DECLINED)====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

'''VERDICT:''' Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Compy 386]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
**'''second''' -- [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Umm, so what? There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon. This should be removed. -- [[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Reynold appears in the toon when he fires the "Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket Reynold!"
**Like I said above, so what? There is no mention of "Reynold's Wrap" in the toon, and this "fun fact" is neither a fact, nor is it fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:02, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
* Not only '''DECLINE''' but discount all of the "accept" votes, since they're clearly joke votes (what does any of this have to do with the 'toon in question???) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:13, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
** <s>okay, I'll have a go at it... "Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack parallels the movie ''Ghostbusters II,'' where the geeky character Louis attempts to help the team by putting on a spare uniform." [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:34, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
***heh, whoops, looks like I'm a couple months too late. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:03, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== The Haiku Triad Rule ====
The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem. Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.

*'''Listen squirt''', who do you think you are? Because I am a MAJOR LEAGUE haiku writer, and I know for a fact that this "Haiku Triple" rule or whatever, doesn't exist! You want a fun fact, here I will '''revise''' your fun fact into a fun fact of my own:

:
Proposed "Haiku Triad Rule" Fun Fact is the biggest load
of melarkey, ever! Its author is one of the biggest
doodle-pad Haiku writers ever! Needless to say, the only
thing he/she knows "quite a bit" about is writing half-bit
haikus in a Bat Man Doodle Pad.

Let me be the first to give a vigorous '''Accept''' for this newly revised fun fact.

Look, repeating a syllable is not only allowed in a haiku, it is a
"literary device" that has contributed to some of the best Haikus
ever. I would give you an example, but I don't usually like to
release my work before it's been published, especially onto the
internet. But since you've basically cornered me into it, here is one
of my latest haikus, which will show you how repeating a syllable can
be a good idea:

:
Bee comes buzzing in
Flower flower, buzz buzz buzz
Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

Now if you will look carefully there, you'll see that I used the same
syllable not just three times in a row, but EIGHT times in a row, and
it only makes the poem a better reading experience. Observe and
learn. ---[[User:132.236.75.84|132.236.75.84]] 10:34, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Don't even''' call me a Doodle Pad. Don't even go there. Don't even.
*'''Will no-one sign their votes?''' ...er, that is, '''Neutral''', given that I'm not sure right this second. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:58, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space (DECLINED) ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"
*'''Delete''' I can't believe you actually thought that was notable. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment and general retraction of votes''' Okay, first of all, I still don't think it was that obvious. However, now that emailer nicknames are listed on the "sbemail by name" page (or maybe they always were and I never noticed) it seems a lot less useful, and I officially move to '''Neutral'''. Don't expect me to be so generous on the other facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:02, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline or rewrite''' When I first saw this, I not only noticed that Homestar called Dan "Jerome" but I also saw it as an OBVIOUS reference to the way Strong Bad changes e-mailers names around - since Homestar was trying to fill in for Strong Bad and copy him (i.e. trying to figure out what an abbreviation in the signature stands for), I saw this as Homestar attempting to answer e-mails like Strong Bad and deliberately changing the e-mailers name around. If anything, this particular fun fact ought to reflect the reference to Strong Bad doing the same with other e-mailers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Also, at the risk of advocating some forward referencing, I think it's notable that in the very next e-mail [[the process]], Strong Bad makes fun of Em's name in almost the exact same way that Homestar makes fun of FL. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Ketchup is ketchup is ketchup. That's like saying "The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his fries is the same ketchup Donald Trump likes on his." It's just ketchup. :P →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 03:59, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
*'''Weak Accept''': While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the [[montage]] page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED) ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPERDECLINE'''---DELEETED
*'''Accept.''' Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy. Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Accept.''' True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:24, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't care if this fact goes or not, but if it stays, please, please rewrite it. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' - Dingell
* '''Accept, maybe revise''' It IS Homestar's website after all...so of course there would be an email address for him. Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's. So he may have a computer... It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it. I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
** But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Decline''' Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual. The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== car ===

==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
** '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
** '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:06:35 GMT

BegyLips: /* rock opera */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[rock opera]] ===
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
*I put this here from the fun facts on the other page because I don't believe this is true. After watching the e-mail, it shows Strong Sad saying "Internet" way too early to have the e-mails be in order. If someone could provide proof that the fact is actually true, please do so. Until then I feel it should be here. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 10:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**I did some research into it. I copied and pasted the entire length of the rock opera into an e-mail window, then scanned every e-mail transcript looking for the words. I found 123 of the words in the actual emails, with the other two in Easter Eggs. Considering that the Easter Eggs are part of the e-mail, those count. Therefore, that is 125 words, IN ORDER, from 125 seperate emails. The statement is true. '''Accept.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]12:02, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Then how come when Strong Sad says "Internet" (from Virus), there are WAY more than 7 words after that? That would show the e-mails are not in order. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 13:06, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)Begylips
*'''Weak accept.''' I mean, it's true and it might be important to know. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:12, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[Everybody Knows It]] ===

Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.
*'''Weak decline.''' Has there ever been any evidence that homestar really doesn't wear shoes? I think those are his shoes. Whatever. If you gimme any proof that Homestar doesn't wear shoes, I'll switch my answer. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:35, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I don't think the slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents are evidence one way or the other, since it could be argued that those are being worn over his shoes/feet, but on the other hand I've never seen anything to indicate that Homestar's shoes are his feet. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 15:36, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar wears slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents. Therefore his shoes are just shoes. →[[User:Star4ever|Star4ever]] 12:06, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''. What does this have to do with the 'Everybody Knows It' cartoon, anyway? [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:37, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**At the end, Homestar says something about the cheat putting dog food in his shoes →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:40, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[time capsule]]===

The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.

*'''Decline''' I don’t see the connection. The gross old wig looks '''way''' different from the Cobain wig. --[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:37, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:34, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I'll '''Second''' that till i cant '''Second''' it no more. Just because you WANT to put a fun fact doesn't mean you have to make stuff up. [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

===[[secret recipes]]===

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Strong Bad's Poopaw====

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

*'''Decline''' This is addressed at the bottom of the page in another vote. We don't need any more of these "this is the first time that *so-and-so* does/says/reveals *thus-and-such*. Besides the line "one of the first four times" already makes this non-unique as a "fun fact" and therefore not fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' "Homestar does not have a stupid uncle Egg". C'mon folks, the brothers Chap are making fun of people that make fun facts like this. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' "Any other relatives besides Strong Sad"? What about Strong Mad? Even if the "fact" were revised to mention Strong Mad along with Strong Sad, though, it still wouldn't be noteworthy enough to be worth accepting. --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:07, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:00, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:52, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Revise, Accept.''' You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
**Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
*'''Decline.''' This is stated clearly in the easter eggs section. --[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:54, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

*'''Decline.''' Just a song. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts. Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:55, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' It's just too bad we don't know what happened to SB's car between "No Loafing" and "Car"... maybe they will make a toon about it someday. It's also worth noting that SB had a car in "Dangeresque 3", so maybe he was between cars in the "Car" email. He must have had a car before that email, because he dressed up as CARmen twice for halloween.
**Please sign your vote for it to count. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:09, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** Do you WANT that vote to count?! Even if you agreed with the fact (which I see that you don't), would you really want someone that incoherent controlling what goes on the Wiki?! I'm neutral toward the fact but I'm half-tempted to turn my vote to decline out of protest for the joke votes! (Don't count that as a vote; I'm kidding.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:51, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
==== Politics ====
Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.
*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:01, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]] 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline!''' Are you serious? There's no way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''Accept''' This is what I first thought. [[User:KevDude|KevDude]]
*'''Accept''' I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:18, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Awesome sause is clearly a reference to awesome cross. For anyone to deny the connection of a rhyme is ridiculous. - badamn_187
**'''Decline, and ban badamn_187 from posting.'''Are you serious, or just plain stupid? '''DELETED!'''-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*acually they are bolth are rencecsa real cleener as staeted in the dvd comintary for this e-mail
**Um, what?-- [[User:Drake|Drake]]
*'''Accept.''' OK, with all the declines I'm sure this vote isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. To say you see "no connection whatsoever" is a bit silly; the phrases are obviously very similar in sound--the only phonetic difference is the "cr" being changed to an "s" sound. (And arguably the "x" to an "s", though it's debatable whether the X really affects the pronunciation of "Awexome".) The similarity could be coincidental, of course, but it could also be intentional--especially since the reference to a cleaner as a "sauce" is unusual enough to suggest there could be a reason for that specific word choice. (And I don't see the fact that there exists a real cleaner called "Awesome" as evidence against the matter at all; unless the cleaner's called "Awesome Sauce" there's still the possibility that the "sauce" was added as a reference to "Awexome Cross".) I'm not saying I'm convinced it necessarily is a reference; I'm just not quite as eager to dismiss the possibility out of hand as are the initial replies. Still, as I said, with all the "Declines" this vote is unlikely to make a difference, so oh well... -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:23, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' It very clearly is a reference to Formula 409. (Clorox is just the company that makes that product.) As others have said, this reference is so obvious to U.S. residents it might not be worth mentioning, except that apparently Formula 409 is unfamiliar to those outside the U.S. so the fact may be worth accepting for their benefit. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Verified Decline''' In the commentary of Funny on the DVD, TBC says that there actually IS a cleaner called Awesome. I've used it, too. --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 23:58, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Er...presumably this was intended in reference to "Awesome Sauce" above, and not to "409"? In which case, I don't see how this "verifies" anything; as I said in my reply there, the fact that there is a real cleaner called "Awesome" doesn't necessarily mean the "Sauce" wasn't added as a reference (though I admit of course it doesn't necessarily mean it was, either.) -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:25, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*you guys think about this stuff too much, cant it just be amusing, if only slightly? - badamn_187

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' A clear reference. [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline.''' A big, ''big'' stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
***Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
***So I've been misinformed all along, thx for clearing it up for me.

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 00:04, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --rather dashing

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]
**'''Second''' It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the ''prinicpal'' of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional. Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of unanimous voting, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 07:00, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 5 valid Decline votes and 4 valid Accept votes, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:47, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula (DECLINED)====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Pi (DECLINED)====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

'''VERDICT:''' Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Compy 386]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
**'''second''' -- [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Umm, so what? There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon. This should be removed. -- [[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Reynold appears in the toon when he fires the "Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket Reynold!"
**Like I said above, so what? There is no mention of "Reynold's Wrap" in the toon, and this "fun fact" is neither a fact, nor is it fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:02, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
* Not only '''DECLINE''' but discount all of the "accept" votes, since they're clearly joke votes (what does any of this have to do with the 'toon in question???) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:13, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
** <s>okay, I'll have a go at it... "Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack parallels the movie ''Ghostbusters II,'' where the geeky character Louis attempts to help the team by putting on a spare uniform." [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:34, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
***heh, whoops, looks like I'm a couple months too late. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:03, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== The Haiku Triad Rule ====
The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem. Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.

*'''Listen squirt''', who do you think you are? Because I am a MAJOR LEAGUE haiku writer, and I know for a fact that this "Haiku Triple" rule or whatever, doesn't exist! You want a fun fact, here I will '''revise''' your fun fact into a fun fact of my own:

:
Proposed "Haiku Triad Rule" Fun Fact is the biggest load
of melarkey, ever! Its author is one of the biggest
doodle-pad Haiku writers ever! Needless to say, the only
thing he/she knows "quite a bit" about is writing half-bit
haikus in a Bat Man Doodle Pad.

Let me be the first to give a vigorous '''Accept''' for this newly revised fun fact.

Look, repeating a syllable is not only allowed in a haiku, it is a
"literary device" that has contributed to some of the best Haikus
ever. I would give you an example, but I don't usually like to
release my work before it's been published, especially onto the
internet. But since you've basically cornered me into it, here is one
of my latest haikus, which will show you how repeating a syllable can
be a good idea:

:
Bee comes buzzing in
Flower flower, buzz buzz buzz
Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

Now if you will look carefully there, you'll see that I used the same
syllable not just three times in a row, but EIGHT times in a row, and
it only makes the poem a better reading experience. Observe and
learn. ---[[User:132.236.75.84|132.236.75.84]] 10:34, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Don't even''' call me a Doodle Pad. Don't even go there. Don't even.
*'''Will no-one sign their votes?''' ...er, that is, '''Neutral''', given that I'm not sure right this second. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:58, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space (DECLINED) ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"
*'''Delete''' I can't believe you actually thought that was notable. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment and general retraction of votes''' Okay, first of all, I still don't think it was that obvious. However, now that emailer nicknames are listed on the "sbemail by name" page (or maybe they always were and I never noticed) it seems a lot less useful, and I officially move to '''Neutral'''. Don't expect me to be so generous on the other facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:02, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline or rewrite''' When I first saw this, I not only noticed that Homestar called Dan "Jerome" but I also saw it as an OBVIOUS reference to the way Strong Bad changes e-mailers names around - since Homestar was trying to fill in for Strong Bad and copy him (i.e. trying to figure out what an abbreviation in the signature stands for), I saw this as Homestar attempting to answer e-mails like Strong Bad and deliberately changing the e-mailers name around. If anything, this particular fun fact ought to reflect the reference to Strong Bad doing the same with other e-mailers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Also, at the risk of advocating some forward referencing, I think it's notable that in the very next e-mail [[the process]], Strong Bad makes fun of Em's name in almost the exact same way that Homestar makes fun of FL. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Ketchup is ketchup is ketchup. That's like saying "The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his fries is the same ketchup Donald Trump likes on his." It's just ketchup. :P →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 03:59, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
*'''Weak Accept''': While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the [[montage]] page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED) ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPERDECLINE'''---DELEETED
*'''Accept.''' Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy. Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Accept.''' True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:24, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't care if this fact goes or not, but if it stays, please, please rewrite it. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' - Dingell
* '''Accept, maybe revise''' It IS Homestar's website after all...so of course there would be an email address for him. Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's. So he may have a computer... It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it. I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
** But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Decline''' Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual. The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== car ===

==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
** '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
** '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

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== Voting ==
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== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[rock opera]] ===
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
*I put this here from the fun facts on the other page because I don't believe this is true. After watching the e-mail, it shows Strong Sad saying "Internet" way too early to have the e-mails be in order. If someone could provide proof that the fact is actually true, please do so. Until then I feel it should be here. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 10:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[Everybody Knows It]] ===

Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.
*'''Weak decline.''' Has there ever been any evidence that homestar really doesn't wear shoes? I think those are his shoes. Whatever. If you gimme any proof that Homestar doesn't wear shoes, I'll switch my answer. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:35, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I don't think the slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents are evidence one way or the other, since it could be argued that those are being worn over his shoes/feet, but on the other hand I've never seen anything to indicate that Homestar's shoes are his feet. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 15:36, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar wears slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents. Therefore his shoes are just shoes. →[[User:Star4ever|Star4ever]] 12:06, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''. What does this have to do with the 'Everybody Knows It' cartoon, anyway? [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:37, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**At the end, Homestar says something about the cheat putting dog food in his shoes →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:40, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[time capsule]]===

The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.

*'''Decline''' I don’t see the connection. The gross old wig looks '''way''' different from the Cobain wig. --[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:37, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:34, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I'll '''Second''' that till i cant '''Second''' it no more. Just because you WANT to put a fun fact doesn't mean you have to make stuff up. [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

===[[secret recipes]]===

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Strong Bad's Poopaw====

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

*'''Decline''' This is addressed at the bottom of the page in another vote. We don't need any more of these "this is the first time that *so-and-so* does/says/reveals *thus-and-such*. Besides the line "one of the first four times" already makes this non-unique as a "fun fact" and therefore not fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' "Homestar does not have a stupid uncle Egg". C'mon folks, the brothers Chap are making fun of people that make fun facts like this. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' "Any other relatives besides Strong Sad"? What about Strong Mad? Even if the "fact" were revised to mention Strong Mad along with Strong Sad, though, it still wouldn't be noteworthy enough to be worth accepting. --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:07, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:00, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:52, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Revise, Accept.''' You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
**Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
*'''Decline.''' This is stated clearly in the easter eggs section. --[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:54, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

*'''Decline.''' Just a song. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts. Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:55, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' It's just too bad we don't know what happened to SB's car between "No Loafing" and "Car"... maybe they will make a toon about it someday. It's also worth noting that SB had a car in "Dangeresque 3", so maybe he was between cars in the "Car" email. He must have had a car before that email, because he dressed up as CARmen twice for halloween.
**Please sign your vote for it to count. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:09, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** Do you WANT that vote to count?! Even if you agreed with the fact (which I see that you don't), would you really want someone that incoherent controlling what goes on the Wiki?! I'm neutral toward the fact but I'm half-tempted to turn my vote to decline out of protest for the joke votes! (Don't count that as a vote; I'm kidding.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:51, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
==== Politics ====
Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.
*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:01, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]] 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline!''' Are you serious? There's no way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''Accept''' This is what I first thought. [[User:KevDude|KevDude]]
*'''Accept''' I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:18, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Awesome sause is clearly a reference to awesome cross. For anyone to deny the connection of a rhyme is ridiculous. - badamn_187
**'''Decline, and ban badamn_187 from posting.'''Are you serious, or just plain stupid? '''DELETED!'''-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*acually they are bolth are rencecsa real cleener as staeted in the dvd comintary for this e-mail
**Um, what?-- [[User:Drake|Drake]]
*'''Accept.''' OK, with all the declines I'm sure this vote isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. To say you see "no connection whatsoever" is a bit silly; the phrases are obviously very similar in sound--the only phonetic difference is the "cr" being changed to an "s" sound. (And arguably the "x" to an "s", though it's debatable whether the X really affects the pronunciation of "Awexome".) The similarity could be coincidental, of course, but it could also be intentional--especially since the reference to a cleaner as a "sauce" is unusual enough to suggest there could be a reason for that specific word choice. (And I don't see the fact that there exists a real cleaner called "Awesome" as evidence against the matter at all; unless the cleaner's called "Awesome Sauce" there's still the possibility that the "sauce" was added as a reference to "Awexome Cross".) I'm not saying I'm convinced it necessarily is a reference; I'm just not quite as eager to dismiss the possibility out of hand as are the initial replies. Still, as I said, with all the "Declines" this vote is unlikely to make a difference, so oh well... -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:23, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' It very clearly is a reference to Formula 409. (Clorox is just the company that makes that product.) As others have said, this reference is so obvious to U.S. residents it might not be worth mentioning, except that apparently Formula 409 is unfamiliar to those outside the U.S. so the fact may be worth accepting for their benefit. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Verified Decline''' In the commentary of Funny on the DVD, TBC says that there actually IS a cleaner called Awesome. I've used it, too. --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 23:58, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Er...presumably this was intended in reference to "Awesome Sauce" above, and not to "409"? In which case, I don't see how this "verifies" anything; as I said in my reply there, the fact that there is a real cleaner called "Awesome" doesn't necessarily mean the "Sauce" wasn't added as a reference (though I admit of course it doesn't necessarily mean it was, either.) -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:25, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*you guys think about this stuff too much, cant it just be amusing, if only slightly? - badamn_187

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' A clear reference. [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline.''' A big, ''big'' stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
***Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
***So I've been misinformed all along, thx for clearing it up for me.

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 00:04, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --rather dashing

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]
**'''Second''' It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the ''prinicpal'' of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional. Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of unanimous voting, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 07:00, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 5 valid Decline votes and 4 valid Accept votes, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:47, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula (DECLINED)====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Pi (DECLINED)====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

'''VERDICT:''' Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Compy 386]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
**'''second''' -- [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Umm, so what? There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon. This should be removed. -- [[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Reynold appears in the toon when he fires the "Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket Reynold!"
**Like I said above, so what? There is no mention of "Reynold's Wrap" in the toon, and this "fun fact" is neither a fact, nor is it fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:02, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
* Not only '''DECLINE''' but discount all of the "accept" votes, since they're clearly joke votes (what does any of this have to do with the 'toon in question???) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:13, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
** <s>okay, I'll have a go at it... "Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack parallels the movie ''Ghostbusters II,'' where the geeky character Louis attempts to help the team by putting on a spare uniform." [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:34, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
***heh, whoops, looks like I'm a couple months too late. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:03, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== The Haiku Triad Rule ====
The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem. Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.

*'''Listen squirt''', who do you think you are? Because I am a MAJOR LEAGUE haiku writer, and I know for a fact that this "Haiku Triple" rule or whatever, doesn't exist! You want a fun fact, here I will '''revise''' your fun fact into a fun fact of my own:

:
Proposed "Haiku Triad Rule" Fun Fact is the biggest load
of melarkey, ever! Its author is one of the biggest
doodle-pad Haiku writers ever! Needless to say, the only
thing he/she knows "quite a bit" about is writing half-bit
haikus in a Bat Man Doodle Pad.

Let me be the first to give a vigorous '''Accept''' for this newly revised fun fact.

Look, repeating a syllable is not only allowed in a haiku, it is a
"literary device" that has contributed to some of the best Haikus
ever. I would give you an example, but I don't usually like to
release my work before it's been published, especially onto the
internet. But since you've basically cornered me into it, here is one
of my latest haikus, which will show you how repeating a syllable can
be a good idea:

:
Bee comes buzzing in
Flower flower, buzz buzz buzz
Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

Now if you will look carefully there, you'll see that I used the same
syllable not just three times in a row, but EIGHT times in a row, and
it only makes the poem a better reading experience. Observe and
learn. ---[[User:132.236.75.84|132.236.75.84]] 10:34, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Don't even''' call me a Doodle Pad. Don't even go there. Don't even.
*'''Will no-one sign their votes?''' ...er, that is, '''Neutral''', given that I'm not sure right this second. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:58, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space (DECLINED) ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"
*'''Delete''' I can't believe you actually thought that was notable. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment and general retraction of votes''' Okay, first of all, I still don't think it was that obvious. However, now that emailer nicknames are listed on the "sbemail by name" page (or maybe they always were and I never noticed) it seems a lot less useful, and I officially move to '''Neutral'''. Don't expect me to be so generous on the other facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:02, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline or rewrite''' When I first saw this, I not only noticed that Homestar called Dan "Jerome" but I also saw it as an OBVIOUS reference to the way Strong Bad changes e-mailers names around - since Homestar was trying to fill in for Strong Bad and copy him (i.e. trying to figure out what an abbreviation in the signature stands for), I saw this as Homestar attempting to answer e-mails like Strong Bad and deliberately changing the e-mailers name around. If anything, this particular fun fact ought to reflect the reference to Strong Bad doing the same with other e-mailers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Also, at the risk of advocating some forward referencing, I think it's notable that in the very next e-mail [[the process]], Strong Bad makes fun of Em's name in almost the exact same way that Homestar makes fun of FL. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Ketchup is ketchup is ketchup. That's like saying "The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his fries is the same ketchup Donald Trump likes on his." It's just ketchup. :P →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 03:59, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
*'''Weak Accept''': While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the [[montage]] page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED) ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPERDECLINE'''---DELEETED
*'''Accept.''' Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy. Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Accept.''' True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:24, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't care if this fact goes or not, but if it stays, please, please rewrite it. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' - Dingell
* '''Accept, maybe revise''' It IS Homestar's website after all...so of course there would be an email address for him. Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's. So he may have a computer... It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it. I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
** But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Decline''' Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual. The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== car ===

==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
** '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
** '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:22:46 GMT

BegyLips: /* Toons and E-mails */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[rock opera]] ===
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.
*I put this here from the fun facts on the other page because I don't believe this is true. After watching the e-mail, it shows Strong Sad saying "Internet" way too early to have the e-mails be in order. If someone could provide proof that the fact is actually true, please do so. Until then I feel it should be here. ~~[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[Everybody Knows It]] ===

Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.
*'''Weak decline.''' Has there ever been any evidence that homestar really doesn't wear shoes? I think those are his shoes. Whatever. If you gimme any proof that Homestar doesn't wear shoes, I'll switch my answer. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:35, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I don't think the slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents are evidence one way or the other, since it could be argued that those are being worn over his shoes/feet, but on the other hand I've never seen anything to indicate that Homestar's shoes are his feet. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 15:36, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar wears slippers in Homestar Presents: Presents. Therefore his shoes are just shoes. →[[User:Star4ever|Star4ever]] 12:06, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Second'''. What does this have to do with the 'Everybody Knows It' cartoon, anyway? [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:37, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**At the end, Homestar says something about the cheat putting dog food in his shoes →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:40, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[time capsule]]===

The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.

*'''Decline''' I don’t see the connection. The gross old wig looks '''way''' different from the Cobain wig. --[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:37, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:34, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I'll '''Second''' that till i cant '''Second''' it no more. Just because you WANT to put a fun fact doesn't mean you have to make stuff up. [[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 14:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

===[[secret recipes]]===

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Strong Bad's Poopaw====

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

*'''Decline''' This is addressed at the bottom of the page in another vote. We don't need any more of these "this is the first time that *so-and-so* does/says/reveals *thus-and-such*. Besides the line "one of the first four times" already makes this non-unique as a "fun fact" and therefore not fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' "Homestar does not have a stupid uncle Egg". C'mon folks, the brothers Chap are making fun of people that make fun facts like this. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' "Any other relatives besides Strong Sad"? What about Strong Mad? Even if the "fact" were revised to mention Strong Mad along with Strong Sad, though, it still wouldn't be noteworthy enough to be worth accepting. --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:07, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:00, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:52, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Revise, Accept.''' You should also mention that he shows up in the Decemberween Episode of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. Or you could make a second fun fact about that.
**Real funny. We need to prune joke votes like this... at least I can sleep easy knowing it doesn't count since it's not signed. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:12, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
*'''Decline.''' This is stated clearly in the easter eggs section. --[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:54, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

*'''Decline.''' Just a song. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts. Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:55, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' It's just too bad we don't know what happened to SB's car between "No Loafing" and "Car"... maybe they will make a toon about it someday. It's also worth noting that SB had a car in "Dangeresque 3", so maybe he was between cars in the "Car" email. He must have had a car before that email, because he dressed up as CARmen twice for halloween.
**Please sign your vote for it to count. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:09, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** Do you WANT that vote to count?! Even if you agreed with the fact (which I see that you don't), would you really want someone that incoherent controlling what goes on the Wiki?! I'm neutral toward the fact but I'm half-tempted to turn my vote to decline out of protest for the joke votes! (Don't count that as a vote; I'm kidding.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:51, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
==== Politics ====
Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.
*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:01, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]] 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline!''' Are you serious? There's no way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''Accept''' This is what I first thought. [[User:KevDude|KevDude]]
*'''Accept''' I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:18, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Awesome sause is clearly a reference to awesome cross. For anyone to deny the connection of a rhyme is ridiculous. - badamn_187
**'''Decline, and ban badamn_187 from posting.'''Are you serious, or just plain stupid? '''DELETED!'''-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*acually they are bolth are rencecsa real cleener as staeted in the dvd comintary for this e-mail
**Um, what?-- [[User:Drake|Drake]]
*'''Accept.''' OK, with all the declines I'm sure this vote isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to have to go against the grain on this one. To say you see "no connection whatsoever" is a bit silly; the phrases are obviously very similar in sound--the only phonetic difference is the "cr" being changed to an "s" sound. (And arguably the "x" to an "s", though it's debatable whether the X really affects the pronunciation of "Awexome".) The similarity could be coincidental, of course, but it could also be intentional--especially since the reference to a cleaner as a "sauce" is unusual enough to suggest there could be a reason for that specific word choice. (And I don't see the fact that there exists a real cleaner called "Awesome" as evidence against the matter at all; unless the cleaner's called "Awesome Sauce" there's still the possibility that the "sauce" was added as a reference to "Awexome Cross".) I'm not saying I'm convinced it necessarily is a reference; I'm just not quite as eager to dismiss the possibility out of hand as are the initial replies. Still, as I said, with all the "Declines" this vote is unlikely to make a difference, so oh well... -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:23, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' It very clearly is a reference to Formula 409. (Clorox is just the company that makes that product.) As others have said, this reference is so obvious to U.S. residents it might not be worth mentioning, except that apparently Formula 409 is unfamiliar to those outside the U.S. so the fact may be worth accepting for their benefit. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:38, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Verified Decline''' In the commentary of Funny on the DVD, TBC says that there actually IS a cleaner called Awesome. I've used it, too. --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 23:58, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Er...presumably this was intended in reference to "Awesome Sauce" above, and not to "409"? In which case, I don't see how this "verifies" anything; as I said in my reply there, the fact that there is a real cleaner called "Awesome" doesn't necessarily mean the "Sauce" wasn't added as a reference (though I admit of course it doesn't necessarily mean it was, either.) -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 04:25, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*you guys think about this stuff too much, cant it just be amusing, if only slightly? - badamn_187

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' A clear reference. [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline.''' A big, ''big'' stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
***Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
***So I've been misinformed all along, thx for clearing it up for me.

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 00:04, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --rather dashing

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]
**'''Second''' It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the ''prinicpal'' of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional. Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of unanimous voting, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 07:00, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 5 valid Decline votes and 4 valid Accept votes, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:47, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula (DECLINED)====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 10 valid Decline votes, 7 valid Accept votes, and 2 valid Modify votes, this item is Declined. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:53, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Pi (DECLINED)====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

'''VERDICT:''' Since the item has been reposted on the main page in a modified form and is uncontested, the Modify votes should reflect that this item already exists, and so with a vote of 7 Accept to 9 Decline, this fact in its current form is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:02, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Compy 386]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
**'''second''' -- [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Umm, so what? There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon. This should be removed. -- [[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Reynold appears in the toon when he fires the "Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket Reynold!"
**Like I said above, so what? There is no mention of "Reynold's Wrap" in the toon, and this "fun fact" is neither a fact, nor is it fun. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:02, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
* Not only '''DECLINE''' but discount all of the "accept" votes, since they're clearly joke votes (what does any of this have to do with the 'toon in question???) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:13, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
** <s>okay, I'll have a go at it... "Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack parallels the movie ''Ghostbusters II,'' where the geeky character Louis attempts to help the team by putting on a spare uniform." [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 15:34, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)</s>
***heh, whoops, looks like I'm a couple months too late. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 16:03, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

*'''Decline''' Let me be the first to say this is obvious and unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== The Haiku Triad Rule ====
The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem. Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.

*'''Listen squirt''', who do you think you are? Because I am a MAJOR LEAGUE haiku writer, and I know for a fact that this "Haiku Triple" rule or whatever, doesn't exist! You want a fun fact, here I will '''revise''' your fun fact into a fun fact of my own:

:
Proposed "Haiku Triad Rule" Fun Fact is the biggest load
of melarkey, ever! Its author is one of the biggest
doodle-pad Haiku writers ever! Needless to say, the only
thing he/she knows "quite a bit" about is writing half-bit
haikus in a Bat Man Doodle Pad.

Let me be the first to give a vigorous '''Accept''' for this newly revised fun fact.

Look, repeating a syllable is not only allowed in a haiku, it is a
"literary device" that has contributed to some of the best Haikus
ever. I would give you an example, but I don't usually like to
release my work before it's been published, especially onto the
internet. But since you've basically cornered me into it, here is one
of my latest haikus, which will show you how repeating a syllable can
be a good idea:

:
Bee comes buzzing in
Flower flower, buzz buzz buzz
Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

Now if you will look carefully there, you'll see that I used the same
syllable not just three times in a row, but EIGHT times in a row, and
it only makes the poem a better reading experience. Observe and
learn. ---[[User:132.236.75.84|132.236.75.84]] 10:34, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Don't even''' call me a Doodle Pad. Don't even go there. Don't even.
*'''Will no-one sign their votes?''' ...er, that is, '''Neutral''', given that I'm not sure right this second. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:58, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space (DECLINED) ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"
*'''Delete''' I can't believe you actually thought that was notable. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment and general retraction of votes''' Okay, first of all, I still don't think it was that obvious. However, now that emailer nicknames are listed on the "sbemail by name" page (or maybe they always were and I never noticed) it seems a lot less useful, and I officially move to '''Neutral'''. Don't expect me to be so generous on the other facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:02, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline or rewrite''' When I first saw this, I not only noticed that Homestar called Dan "Jerome" but I also saw it as an OBVIOUS reference to the way Strong Bad changes e-mailers names around - since Homestar was trying to fill in for Strong Bad and copy him (i.e. trying to figure out what an abbreviation in the signature stands for), I saw this as Homestar attempting to answer e-mails like Strong Bad and deliberately changing the e-mailers name around. If anything, this particular fun fact ought to reflect the reference to Strong Bad doing the same with other e-mailers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Also, at the risk of advocating some forward referencing, I think it's notable that in the very next e-mail [[the process]], Strong Bad makes fun of Em's name in almost the exact same way that Homestar makes fun of FL. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Ketchup is ketchup is ketchup. That's like saying "The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his fries is the same ketchup Donald Trump likes on his." It's just ketchup. :P →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 03:59, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.
*'''Weak Accept''': While it's not entirely fun, it is a fact. But please, check to see if this is really the first time he wears pants. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** It's not. Check out the Halloween episodes. However, it's already on the [[montage]] page with the "besides Halloween episode" qualifier. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:47, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED) ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPERDECLINE'''---DELEETED
*'''Accept.''' Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy. Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Accept.''' True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:24, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't care if this fact goes or not, but if it stays, please, please rewrite it. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' - Dingell
* '''Accept, maybe revise''' It IS Homestar's website after all...so of course there would be an email address for him. Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's. So he may have a computer... It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it. I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
** But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Decline''' Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual. The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== car ===

==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
** '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
** '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.

rock opera

BegyLips — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:21:09 GMT

BegyLips: /* Trivia - Moved a Trivia fact to STUFF to be voted upon and proven */

[[Image:sbemail_opera.png|thumb|SBEMAIL: The Musical]]

'''Strong Bad Email #125'''

Strong Bad sings his rock opera 'sbemail'.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Anonymous]], [[Tompkins]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Coach Z]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[Grape Nuts Robot]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Homsar]], [[King of Town]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] (easter egg)

'''Date:''' February 22, 2005

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Checkin' email and take it to the flipside! !edispilf eht ot ti ekat dna liame 'nikcehC

<pre>
subject: rock opera

Strong Bad,
I think it's high time you composed a rock opera. You
simply owe it to society. What should it be about?
That's up to you.
Best Wishes,
Anonymous Contributor
Gambier, OH
</pre>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "Contributor" as "ContribuTOR" and "OH" as "hhhough"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, poor guy. ''{typing}'' Hey! Mr. and Mrs. Contributor, way to name your kid! I can only imagine the taunts and jabs the kids on the playground musta come up with.

''{A piece of notebook paper appears onscreen with Teen Girl Squad-esque drawings on it. On it are drawings of a swingset, Strong Bad, and Anonymous, who looks suspiciously like Strong Sad with a question mark for a face. Anonymous is kicking a soccerball}''

'''NOTEBOOK STRONG BAD:''' Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a poem or something and not attribute it to yourself!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or like

''{The paper switches out. This one features Anonymous with his hands glued to his butt, Strong Bad, and Tompkins}''

'''NOTEBOOK STRONG BAD:''' Yo Anonny! Maybe try calling the cops and giving them some valuable information to help solve a crime without revealing your own identityyyy!

''{The paper disappears offscreen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh. Kids can be so cruel. ''{clears screen, resumes typing}'' OK, back on task. To tell you the truth, you guys have already heard mosta my rock opera. I've been composing it over the last three and a half years. It's simply entitled "SBEMAIL!" ''{A poster for SBEMAIL! appears onscreen}'' And the lyrics consist of one word from each of my 125 emails! ''{The poster disappears}'' Now, it may not make a whole lotta sense but when I have I ever backed down from a bad idea, right? Now let's get this train-wreck a-rollin'!

''{Cut to some curtains, which open, beginning the opera}''
'''''Note:''' The "--"s signify when character break is in the middle of the sentence, not starting a new one.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Join me on my single--

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
hundred--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
toilet dreams picture. 
Everybody wanna scam some sweet bucks or potential--

'''LITTLE STRONG BAD:''' 
pizza. 

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Oh! Oh! Ummm. Nevermind. 
Ummm... double--

'''COACH Z:''' 
pants.--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Awesome, awesome fancy danish. 
Professional funky totally diggity-underdrawers. 
Oh tonight,--

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
cool,--

'''MARZIPAN:''' 
healthy,--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
ones, eh? 
Whatever action baby actually went jibblie. 
Oooh! Oh. Party like completely great, good. 
Down town ladies get consummate--

'''MARZIPAN:''' 
yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Awkward sweet peaches crackin' action! 
Wha-Ho! Problematic. 
Solid jumble!

'''GRAPE NUTS ROBOT:''' 
Crazy--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
beans double the real gold! 
Computer--

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
internet--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
bulging--

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
out.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Yeah, oh! 
Dynomite afterparty! 
Like, fangoriously world-class and--

'''POWERED-BY-THE-CHEAT STRONG BAD:''' 
grand.

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Ooooh! Oh!

'''STRONG SAD:''' 
Ewww!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Oh-ho-ho-ho! Definitely, definitely--

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' 
baby.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
Yup,--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
I totally--

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 
always--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
look awesome singing backwards metal. 
Experience dance tonight! Unh! 
Oooh! I'm pleasant. 
Positate without pizzaz and--

'''STINKOMAN:''' 
jam!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Whoa! 
Tonight equals dancing,

'''STRONG SAD AS THE DEATHLY PALLOR:''' 
yeah!

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
Famous--

'''FEMALE LAPPY:''' 
ladies--

'''STRONG BAD:''' 
always like--

'''ALL:''' 
SBEMAIL!

''{The screen fades to black and the SBEMAIL! poster slides down from the top of the screen. Cut to the Lappy. Strong Bad is clapping and making crowd noises with his mouth while roses are being thrown on him from off camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bravo! Encore! Encore! �ndale! �ndale! Arriba! Arriba! ''{typing}'' Thank you! Thank you! The rave reviews are already pouring in! It's only a matter of time before the chicks ''{actually comes out as "It's only a msyyer pd tun/ blegfr teh chekts"}'' -uh.

''{The camera pulls out, and we see The Cheat on the computer desk holding a rose}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat... ixnay on the cut-it-out-throwing-roses-at-me! ...may.

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh!

''{The Cheat throws his rose at Strong Bad's face and it sticks there}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Augh! ''{clutches his face, starts flailing his limbs wildly}'' Rose face! ROSE FACE!!! ''{falls off his stool}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy, where the Paper comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click ''rave reviews'' to see some reviews of Sbemail:
**"SBEMAIL! Is a Triumph of Some Sort!!!" "It will leave you you wanting MORE, MORE, MORE!" -(Perhaps)The Deke
**"A million stars!!!" -Age 7
**"SBEMAIL! is better than a goat!!" - The biscuitdoughhandsman Review

* Click ''Pouring in'' to see a poster for SBEMAIL!
:"an off13 broadway rock opera from the man who brought you 'dangeresque: put em on ice!'"
**While on the poster, click 'Dangereresque: put em on ice' to see a clip of Dangeresque: Put 'Em On Ice!
::''{Cut to somewhere in The Field in winter, with a small ice pond in the foreground. Strong Bad (as Dangeresque) skates in from the right}''
::'''DANGERESQUE:''' So I'm gonna have to jum-
::''{Dangeresque falls through the ice.}''
::'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Meh! ''{throws a rose onto the ice}''
* Click the invisible ''Encore'' on the bottom-right of the Lappy screen to see the rock opera again.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
* This is the first time where we see Strong Bad's whole body walking towards the viewer.
* This is the first email where all twelve main characters appear in person. (The Poopsmith and Pom-Pom were only on playing cards in [[your friends]] and [[different town]], respectively.)

=== Goofs ===
* You can still click the contrast buttons on the Tandy while the opera is playing.
* When roses are being thrown with the Lappy in the background, you can't see the reflection of the roses on the Lappy screen.
* The Poopsmith, Bubs and Pom Pom all remain motionless when the cast yells "SBEMAIL!".
* When the cast yells "SBEMAIL!" Strong Mad's mouth appears on Homsar's torso for a few seconds.

=== Inside References ===
* The shoes that walk across the screen are the back button of the old main page.
* On the second making-fun-of-Anonymous piece-of-paper, Anonymous has his hands glued to his butt, which also happened to Strong Sad in the e-mail [[1 step ahead]].
* The [[Teen Girl Squad]] character Tompkins can be found on the second making-fun-of-Anonymous piece-of-paper, in his miniaturized form from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
* When Strong Bad's typing starts going awry as The Cheat is throwing roses at him, he types "the chicks" as "teh chekts", a reference to the immediately preceding Strong Bad E-mail [[secret recipes]].
* When Strong Bad appears to have two electric guitars sticking out of his head, it's a reference to the cover art for the CD [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
* Strong Bad sitting in the chair swirling the wine in the cup is modeled after a similar scene from the Powered-by-the-Cheat music video [[Everybody to the Limit]].
**Strong Bad also swirls his wine in [[montage]].
* The action figures of Strong Sad and Strong Bad are from the Strong Bad Email [[action figure]].
* The pants Coach Z temporarily dons seem to be modeled after [[Rather Dashing]]'s short pants.
* The background of the area with the pyramid of gold bars (pre-explosion) is taken directly from [[RhinoFeeder]].
* The "Goodtime Palace" is modeled after similar scenes from [[animal]] and even features [[Baby Styles]].
* The picture of the "Hardest Guitar Chord Ever" comes from [[privileges]].
* The jogging pixellated Strong Bad is originally from [[montage]].
* Club Technochocolate is originally from [[extra plug]].
* The rock music which starts at Club Technochocolate is based on ''The Cheat Is Not Dead'' from [[caper]].
* [[The Stage|The stage]] the entire cast is grouped on at the end is the same stage from [[A Decemberween Pageant]], among other holiday toons.
* The "biscuitdoughhandsman review" in the Easter Egg is yet another reference to everyone's favorite unapprehended villain, [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]].
* "The Deke" is originally from [[autobiography]].
* Strong Bad's dance move with [[Baby Styles]] is a reference to [[virus]] when he compliments Bubs for being a computer genius man.
* [[Vector Strong Bad]] makes an appearance, this time with rock and roll hair and a headband.
* "Sbemail" is a reference to the filename of every Strong Bad e-mail. Strong Bad also refers to this in [[unused emails]]

=== Real-World References ===
* Strong Bad's "�ndale! �ndale! Arriba! Arriba!" at the end is quoting the famous Warner Bros. cartoon mouse Speedy Gonzales, except backwards as Speedy usually says Arriba! Arriba! �ndale! �ndale!
* The electric guitars in the opera are (or are modeled after) Gibson Flying Vs.
* The amps are modeled after Marshall stacks, but instead of "Marshall," the logo reads "An Amp". These were also used in [[different town]], but labelled "Marzipan".
* The intro to this e-mail may be a homage to the [[They Might Be Giants]] song [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Subliminal Subliminal], which ends with the last two paragraphs repeated in reverse.
*Sbemail, in containing multiple sections of different styles, is remiscent of such songs as the Who's "A Quick One, While He's Away" and (more famously) Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody."

== See Also ==
*The [[rock opera context|context]] for all of the words from rock opera

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail125.html view "rock opera"] 
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail125.swf view the flash file for "rock opera"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2072 forum re: "rock opera"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]] [[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] [[Category: Tompkins Filmography]] [[Category: Stinkoman Filmography]] [[Category: Strong Sad Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]] [[Category: Coach Z Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]] [[Category: The Poopsmith Filmography]] [[Category: Bubs Filmography]] [[Category: Strong Mad Filmography]] [[Category: Homsar Filmography]] [[Category: The King of Town Filmography]] [[Category: Pom Pom Filmography]] [[Category: Dangeresque Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:16:06 GMT

BegyLips: /* Beverly Sportsinterviews */

__NOTOC__
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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

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== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[ghosts]]===
The rock and role band "PETRA" relesed a CD in 1986 called "Captured In Time And Space."
this may have a resenblents to the area strong sad is in.

*'''Weak Decline.''' Not really that similar. I would've gone neutral but you made an entire heading for it and you spelled "resemblence" wrong. Completely wrong. Before adding your stuff, be sure to look at the standards page :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and spelling, too. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:53, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[animal]]===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

===[[stunt double]]===

====Lemmer====

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]

*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' And Lemke isn't his last name, he's called Mark Lemke -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:01, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
**This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
*The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].
*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===
====VOIP====
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:36, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Writing a sound as a word is Otomotophoya. [[User: drivec|drivec]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***The word is "Otomotopia". I'd really love to know where you got the "phoya" from. :-P --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:18, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Don't you both mean "[[Wikipedia:Onomatopoeia|Onomatopoeia]]"? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:02, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*****Eh, I did a search and found the spelling I used. At least I had the right PRONUNCIATION. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:56, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
******"onomato" doesn't sound much like "otomoto", but you were mostly in the ball park, yes. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:31, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*******FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! I...Er... I mean '''Second.''' - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Quotation'd====
When the Intercom Robot announces the next band is Kissyboots, it says, "Next up is "Kissyboots ", without the second quotation mark.
*<s>'''Neutral for now''' I don't think that's true lemme go check up on that. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 11:56, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
*'''Decline''' I rewatched it and the second quotation is definitely in there. '''UNFACTUAL'D''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:02, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Phantom Drummer?====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:35, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd'd!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 17:01, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd'd'd''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'd'd'd'd''' I beat you all! -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline''' -- All teen bands mime.
**'''What The??''' riiiight... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
*'''accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

* '''Neutral (for now)''' - I removed this since it screams of a BIG stretch, but there is SOME connection... I dunno, what do you all think? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:04, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Only because he never ''actually'' signs the email "C. Elegante," he signs it as "Chester Elegante." There might be some similarity, but it is a huge stretch to say TBC actaully planned that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' BIG stretch. If TBC planned that, Strong Bad would have signed his email as "C. Elegante" instead of "Chester Elegante". [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:43, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*n/m about this point...
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Third''' -- It's definitely the same sound. If you import the clip from Echos into flash and publish a swf file to get the compression effect.. it sounds EXACTLY the same. [[User:Olene|olene]] 03:57, 23 Jan 2005
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! → [[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**And if you actually READ my above my comments, you'd notice Pink Floyd didn't download the ping(the song was made in 1971 for the lvoe fo god) the pianist of the group actually played the note through a leslie speaker cabinet, so it's not a coincidence. I think it should be a rule you can't decline it unless you've heard the song. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 23:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**I'm retracting my vote; the pings do sound strikingly similar. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:50, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Since I've been noticing a gigantic argument surrounding this particular fun fact, I'm going to propose a way to solve this.'''
:Now then, it seems that most of the individuals who are declining the fact are not very familiar with the song "Echoes." Since I personally don't believe in voting on a fun fact unless I actually know the details of the fact being disputed, I'm going to do something if others agree to this.
:I have an mp3 of "Echoes" (legally obtained from my personal copy of Meddle) on my hard drive, along with an mp3-to-wav converter and wav editing software. What I will do, if it's requested, is to take out an excerpt from the song "Echoes" (say, the first minute) and post it somewhere where everyone can hear it and draw their own conclusions.
:This way, everyone will have heard the fact in question and will make the voting far more fair. Anyone who thinks I should do this, please respond. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:14, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Personally I was abstaining from voting since I'd not heard the song... the clip'd help infinitely, methinks. Do it, please. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 00:25, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Definetely do it. I think a lot of people would realize that they are the same ping if it was easy to access.(but actually if you go here: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html it plays the said pinging sound as the website opens, so...) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 00:59, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
***The reason I want to take this particular approach, however, is the fact that I think a lot of people won't believe it's a sample from the song unless I get a clip from the actual song up here. You know how Kamek up above just thought it could've been the "same wav file" that both TBC and Pink Floyd used (though I don't even think that sort of technology had even been thought up of yet in friggin' 1971). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 07:54, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Good point. Lets go with your idea...(goes off to headbang to The Nile Song) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:06, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****You can tell that my knowledge of Pink Floyd can fit between these parentheses: (). I was unaware the song was over 30 years old, thus my comment on wave files. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''I have an exerpt on my hard drive now, but nowhere to put it.''' Anyone have an idea where I can put this mp3 for now? Perhaps temporarily upload it to the Wiki, if that's alright by the mods? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:27, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Yousendit.com should be good(just send the link to yourself)
*[http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27LFK8IK0YDAY0567BDQ6EVSG1 Echoes excerpt] - Done using the method suggested above, so I don't know how well it will work. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 11:56, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Severe decline. I listened to them at the same time and then alternating. One of them is a higher pitch than the other. But who cares? Why are people fighting so hard just for one fun fact? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:I only did what I did because it really grates on my nerves when people vote out of ignorance. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''good' Thats good to know you actually listened to it before declining. Keep in mind, the sound quality could effect it. Someone should host an SWF of the echoes excerpt, so we can REALLY confirm this...
*'''Decline''' At first I thought they were the same sound, and they do sound pretty similar, but after a close comparison in Goldwave, it's pretty clear the Chaps are just using a generic ping that sounds similar to this note. I've made an audio file for comparison purposes; the first sound is from Echoes, the second is from Dreamail, and the third is the ping from Echoes mixed into the Dreamail clip. [[Media:dreammail-echoes.ogg]] --[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 10:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Because you have to hear the song and really pay attention to a certain part, I believe that even if it is from the song, it's not fun enough, and also I don't think it's worth putting up fun facts that require anything that need proof from anything other than something easily accessable.

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot is, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'll say it again. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Alms for the poor ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
*'''Accept.''' If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom.

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[homestar hair]]===

==== Losing his touch ====

Strong Bad sure seems to be losing his touch lately. This is the second email in a row, after "butt IQ", that is not funny.

*'''Very very very strong Decline.''' And don't need to say why. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:44, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; That's opinion, not fact. In fact, this shouldn't even have been STUFF'd. This isn't "Select The Usable Fun Opinions". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What? Not the STUFO page? Oh, then I guess there isn't any reason not to '''DECLINE''' then. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:08, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
*'''Moify and accept''' Saying that pi is an "infinite number" is a bit deceptive; just saying that the number is the first digits of pi should be good enough.

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Keep the mention of Fred Cohen, cuz he is cool.

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Computer Viruses ====
Computer viruses exist in the real world in addition to cartoons. Norton Anti Virus says I have twelve viruses on my computer right now (a new personal record).
*'''Delete a thousand times over''' This is probably the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire life. Wow... You're a moron. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:19, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know that.
** You're just trolling, aren't you? '''DELETE IT!!''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:36, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*I thought I knew what ridiculous was until this day. '''DELETED!''' --Tom H. (Homesmash Brother)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

*'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]
*'''Accept''' The transcript mentions that Marzipan has no mouth, but not that this can be "clearly told".

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:34, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Let's roll through this with you. Biscuit dough hands man is not related to anybody! He's an "artist's interpretation" of what Strong Bad would look like. Why is the Cheat in this list? He's not related to the Brothers Strong. Marzipan is a woman and she is young. How could she be the king of town's ''father?'' Overall, I'd have to say that this is not very smart. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:25, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Talk about getting your genders mixed up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:35, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Very very very strong decline''' 1. What does this add to the pizazz article? 2. What evidence do we have that SB and BDHM are related? 3. What do the other relationships even have to do with the original (useless) fact in question? 4. How is The Cheat related to the Brothers Strong? 5 and 6. The '''King of Town''' is no longer stated to be '''Marzipan's''' father. What genius added this? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:48, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Prepetually Accept''' It's obvious here that Marzipan has had several (possibly successful) sex-change operations as noted in the following emails: [[virus]] [[50 emails]] [[i love you]] [[sbemail_22]] [[flashback]]. Furthermore, it makes sense that Marzipan is the King of Town's father and not the other way around because if the King of Town had a child, he would have eaten it. Case closed.
**What the heck are you talking about? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:13, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**If you're trying to be funny, you're not doing a very good job.
:Why don't we just get rid of this one, it's pretty obvious it's going to fail... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:09, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Who's to say that BDHM and SB aren't R?
** Who's to say that they are? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:27, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email adress, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. →''<tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt>''

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:47:36 GMT

BegyLips: /* Fifty frickin' wings */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
Accourding to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[stunt double]]===

====Lemmer====

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]

*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
**This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
*The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].
*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===
====VOIP====
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer?====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:35, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- All teen bands mime.
**'''What The??''' riiiight... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

* '''Neutral (for now)''' - I removed this since it screams of a BIG stretch, but there is SOME connection... I dunno, what do you all think? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:04, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Only because he never ''actually'' signs the email "C. Elegante," he signs it as "Chester Elegante." There might be some similarity, but it is a huge stretch to say TBC actaully planned that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' BIG stretch. If TBC planned that, Strong Bad would have signed his email as "C. Elegante" instead of "Chester Elegante". [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:43, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*n/m about this point...
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Third''' -- It's definitely the same sound. If you import the clip from Echos into flash and publish a swf file to get the compression effect.. it sounds EXACTLY the same. [[User:Olene|olene]] 03:57, 23 Jan 2005
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! → [[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**And if you actually READ my above my comments, you'd notice Pink Floyd didn't download the ping(the song was made in 1971 for the lvoe fo god) the pianist of the group actually played the note through a leslie speaker cabinet, so it's not a coincidence. I think it should be a rule you can't decline it unless you've heard the song. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 23:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**I'm retracting my vote; the pings do sound strikingly similar. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:50, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Since I've been noticing a gigantic argument surrounding this particular fun fact, I'm going to propose a way to solve this.'''
:Now then, it seems that most of the individuals who are declining the fact are not very familiar with the song "Echoes." Since I personally don't believe in voting on a fun fact unless I actually know the details of the fact being disputed, I'm going to do something if others agree to this.
:I have an mp3 of "Echoes" (legally obtained from my personal copy of Meddle) on my hard drive, along with an mp3-to-wav converter and wav editing software. What I will do, if it's requested, is to take out an excerpt from the song "Echoes" (say, the first minute) and post it somewhere where everyone can hear it and draw their own conclusions.
:This way, everyone will have heard the fact in question and will make the voting far more fair. Anyone who thinks I should do this, please respond. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:14, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Personally I was abstaining from voting since I'd not heard the song... the clip'd help infinitely, methinks. Do it, please. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 00:25, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Definetely do it. I think a lot of people would realize that they are the same ping if it was easy to access.(but actually if you go here: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html it plays the said pinging sound as the website opens, so...) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 00:59, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
***The reason I want to take this particular approach, however, is the fact that I think a lot of people won't believe it's a sample from the song unless I get a clip from the actual song up here. You know how Kamek up above just thought it could've been the "same wav file" that both TBC and Pink Floyd used (though I don't even think that sort of technology had even been thought up of yet in friggin' 1971). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 07:54, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Good point. Lets go with your idea...(goes off to headbang to The Nile Song) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:06, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****You can tell that my knowledge of Pink Floyd can fit between these parentheses: (). I was unaware the song was over 30 years old, thus my comment on wave files. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''I have an exerpt on my hard drive now, but nowhere to put it.''' Anyone have an idea where I can put this mp3 for now? Perhaps temporarily upload it to the Wiki, if that's alright by the mods? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:27, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Yousendit.com should be good(just send the link to yourself)
*[http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27LFK8IK0YDAY0567BDQ6EVSG1 Echoes excerpt] - Done using the method suggested above, so I don't know how well it will work. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 11:56, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Severe decline. I listened to them at the same time and then alternating. One of them is a higher pitch than the other. But who cares? Why are people fighting so hard just for one fun fact? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:I only did what I did because it really grates on my nerves when people vote out of ignorance. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''good' Thats good to know you actually listened to it before declining. Keep in mind, the sound quality could effect it. Someone should host an SWF of the echoes excerpt, so we can REALLY confirm this...
*'''Decline''' At first I thought they were the same sound, and they do sound pretty similar, but after a close comparison in Goldwave, it's pretty clear the Chaps are just using a generic ping that sounds similar to this note. I've made an audio file for comparison purposes; the first sound is from Echoes, the second is from Dreamail, and the third is the ping from Echoes mixed into the Dreamail clip. [[Media:dreammail-echoes.ogg]] --[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 10:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot is, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Alms for the poor ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. →''<tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt>''

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:12:40 GMT

BegyLips: /* Fifty frickin' wings */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
Accourding to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[stunt double]]===

====Lemmer====

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]

*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
*The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].
*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===
====VOIP====
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer?====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:35, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- All teen bands mime.
**'''What The??''' riiiight... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

* '''Neutral (for now)''' - I removed this since it screams of a BIG stretch, but there is SOME connection... I dunno, what do you all think? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:04, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Only because he never ''actually'' signs the email "C. Elegante," he signs it as "Chester Elegante." There might be some similarity, but it is a huge stretch to say TBC actaully planned that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' BIG stretch. If TBC planned that, Strong Bad would have signed his email as "C. Elegante" instead of "Chester Elegante". [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:43, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*n/m about this point...
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Third''' -- It's definitely the same sound. If you import the clip from Echos into flash and publish a swf file to get the compression effect.. it sounds EXACTLY the same. [[User:Olene|olene]] 03:57, 23 Jan 2005
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! → [[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**And if you actually READ my above my comments, you'd notice Pink Floyd didn't download the ping(the song was made in 1971 for the lvoe fo god) the pianist of the group actually played the note through a leslie speaker cabinet, so it's not a coincidence. I think it should be a rule you can't decline it unless you've heard the song. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 23:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**I'm retracting my vote; the pings do sound strikingly similar. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:50, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Since I've been noticing a gigantic argument surrounding this particular fun fact, I'm going to propose a way to solve this.'''
:Now then, it seems that most of the individuals who are declining the fact are not very familiar with the song "Echoes." Since I personally don't believe in voting on a fun fact unless I actually know the details of the fact being disputed, I'm going to do something if others agree to this.
:I have an mp3 of "Echoes" (legally obtained from my personal copy of Meddle) on my hard drive, along with an mp3-to-wav converter and wav editing software. What I will do, if it's requested, is to take out an excerpt from the song "Echoes" (say, the first minute) and post it somewhere where everyone can hear it and draw their own conclusions.
:This way, everyone will have heard the fact in question and will make the voting far more fair. Anyone who thinks I should do this, please respond. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:14, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Personally I was abstaining from voting since I'd not heard the song... the clip'd help infinitely, methinks. Do it, please. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 00:25, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Definetely do it. I think a lot of people would realize that they are the same ping if it was easy to access.(but actually if you go here: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html it plays the said pinging sound as the website opens, so...) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 00:59, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
***The reason I want to take this particular approach, however, is the fact that I think a lot of people won't believe it's a sample from the song unless I get a clip from the actual song up here. You know how Kamek up above just thought it could've been the "same wav file" that both TBC and Pink Floyd used (though I don't even think that sort of technology had even been thought up of yet in friggin' 1971). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 07:54, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Good point. Lets go with your idea...(goes off to headbang to The Nile Song) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:06, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****You can tell that my knowledge of Pink Floyd can fit between these parentheses: (). I was unaware the song was over 30 years old, thus my comment on wave files. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''I have an exerpt on my hard drive now, but nowhere to put it.''' Anyone have an idea where I can put this mp3 for now? Perhaps temporarily upload it to the Wiki, if that's alright by the mods? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:27, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Yousendit.com should be good(just send the link to yourself)
*[http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27LFK8IK0YDAY0567BDQ6EVSG1 Echoes excerpt] - Done using the method suggested above, so I don't know how well it will work. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 11:56, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Severe decline. I listened to them at the same time and then alternating. One of them is a higher pitch than the other. But who cares? Why are people fighting so hard just for one fun fact? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:I only did what I did because it really grates on my nerves when people vote out of ignorance. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''good' Thats good to know you actually listened to it before declining. Keep in mind, the sound quality could effect it. Someone should host an SWF of the echoes excerpt, so we can REALLY confirm this...
*'''Decline''' At first I thought they were the same sound, and they do sound pretty similar, but after a close comparison in Goldwave, it's pretty clear the Chaps are just using a generic ping that sounds similar to this note. I've made an audio file for comparison purposes; the first sound is from Echoes, the second is from Dreamail, and the third is the ping from Echoes mixed into the Dreamail clip. [[Media:dreammail-echoes.ogg]] --[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 10:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot is, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Alms for the poor ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. →''<tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt>''

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:12:06 GMT

BegyLips: /* Fifty frickin' wings */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
Accourding to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[stunt double]]===

====Lemmer====

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]

*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language.

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
*The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].
*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===
====VOIP====
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Phantom Drummer?====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:35, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- All teen bands mime.
**'''What The??''' riiiight... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

* '''Neutral (for now)''' - I removed this since it screams of a BIG stretch, but there is SOME connection... I dunno, what do you all think? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:04, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Only because he never ''actually'' signs the email "C. Elegante," he signs it as "Chester Elegante." There might be some similarity, but it is a huge stretch to say TBC actaully planned that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' BIG stretch. If TBC planned that, Strong Bad would have signed his email as "C. Elegante" instead of "Chester Elegante". [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:43, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*n/m about this point...
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Third''' -- It's definitely the same sound. If you import the clip from Echos into flash and publish a swf file to get the compression effect.. it sounds EXACTLY the same. [[User:Olene|olene]] 03:57, 23 Jan 2005
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! → [[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**And if you actually READ my above my comments, you'd notice Pink Floyd didn't download the ping(the song was made in 1971 for the lvoe fo god) the pianist of the group actually played the note through a leslie speaker cabinet, so it's not a coincidence. I think it should be a rule you can't decline it unless you've heard the song. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 23:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**I'm retracting my vote; the pings do sound strikingly similar. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:50, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Since I've been noticing a gigantic argument surrounding this particular fun fact, I'm going to propose a way to solve this.'''
:Now then, it seems that most of the individuals who are declining the fact are not very familiar with the song "Echoes." Since I personally don't believe in voting on a fun fact unless I actually know the details of the fact being disputed, I'm going to do something if others agree to this.
:I have an mp3 of "Echoes" (legally obtained from my personal copy of Meddle) on my hard drive, along with an mp3-to-wav converter and wav editing software. What I will do, if it's requested, is to take out an excerpt from the song "Echoes" (say, the first minute) and post it somewhere where everyone can hear it and draw their own conclusions.
:This way, everyone will have heard the fact in question and will make the voting far more fair. Anyone who thinks I should do this, please respond. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:14, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Personally I was abstaining from voting since I'd not heard the song... the clip'd help infinitely, methinks. Do it, please. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 00:25, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Definetely do it. I think a lot of people would realize that they are the same ping if it was easy to access.(but actually if you go here: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html it plays the said pinging sound as the website opens, so...) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 00:59, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
***The reason I want to take this particular approach, however, is the fact that I think a lot of people won't believe it's a sample from the song unless I get a clip from the actual song up here. You know how Kamek up above just thought it could've been the "same wav file" that both TBC and Pink Floyd used (though I don't even think that sort of technology had even been thought up of yet in friggin' 1971). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 07:54, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Good point. Lets go with your idea...(goes off to headbang to The Nile Song) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:06, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****You can tell that my knowledge of Pink Floyd can fit between these parentheses: (). I was unaware the song was over 30 years old, thus my comment on wave files. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''I have an exerpt on my hard drive now, but nowhere to put it.''' Anyone have an idea where I can put this mp3 for now? Perhaps temporarily upload it to the Wiki, if that's alright by the mods? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:27, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Yousendit.com should be good(just send the link to yourself)
*[http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27LFK8IK0YDAY0567BDQ6EVSG1 Echoes excerpt] - Done using the method suggested above, so I don't know how well it will work. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 11:56, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Severe decline. I listened to them at the same time and then alternating. One of them is a higher pitch than the other. But who cares? Why are people fighting so hard just for one fun fact? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:I only did what I did because it really grates on my nerves when people vote out of ignorance. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''good' Thats good to know you actually listened to it before declining. Keep in mind, the sound quality could effect it. Someone should host an SWF of the echoes excerpt, so we can REALLY confirm this...
*'''Decline''' At first I thought they were the same sound, and they do sound pretty similar, but after a close comparison in Goldwave, it's pretty clear the Chaps are just using a generic ping that sounds similar to this note. I've made an audio file for comparison purposes; the first sound is from Echoes, the second is from Dreamail, and the third is the ping from Echoes mixed into the Dreamail clip. [[Media:dreammail-echoes.ogg]] --[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 10:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot is, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Alms for the poor ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. →''<tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt>''

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:33:18 GMT

BegyLips: /* College Radio */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[other days]]===

==== Thor? ====
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder.

*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Three Noses? ====
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.

*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== "Decline" ref====

When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.

I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.

*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Backwards joke ====

The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].

*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*'''oh...wait''' I actually, upon one more listen, realized I was just tired and bored and hearing things. darn. Well...it could be the sound quality! Like, yeah totally! I'm hopeless... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 16:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who put it up.... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:54, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...

==== Not Plugged In ====
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.
**'''Second'''
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[part-time job]] ===
==== SWF File====
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]

*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Relative ====
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?

*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Dilbert ====
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.

''Also seen worded as:''

The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.

*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I dident know that
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Buh-hubs ====
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Someday ====
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].

*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== League of Women Voters ====
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.

*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

==== Fat Cheat ====
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[time capsule]] ===

==== World-Class Hole ====
The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].
*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Opposite approach ====
The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.

==== Alms for the poor ===

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:31:21 GMT

BegyLips: /* College Radio */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

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== Voting ==
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== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely that's the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to oak trees." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[other days]]===

==== Thor? ====
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder.

*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Three Noses? ====
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.

*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== "Decline" ref====

When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.

I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.

*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Backwards joke ====

The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].

*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*'''oh...wait''' I actually, upon one more listen, realized I was just tired and bored and hearing things. darn. Well...it could be the sound quality! Like, yeah totally! I'm hopeless... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 16:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who put it up.... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:54, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...

==== Not Plugged In ====
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.
**'''Second'''
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[part-time job]] ===
==== SWF File====
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]

*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Relative ====
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?

*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Dilbert ====
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.

''Also seen worded as:''

The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.

*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I dident know that
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Buh-hubs ====
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Someday ====
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].

*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== League of Women Voters ====
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.

*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

==== Fat Cheat ====
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[time capsule]] ===

==== World-Class Hole ====
The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].
*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Opposite approach ====
The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.

==== Alms for the poor ===

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:03:13 GMT

BegyLips: /* Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 - P.S. I deleted Gloomy Keyboardist. I forgot to log-in */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

===[[other days]]===

==== Thor? ====
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder.

*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Three Noses? ====
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.

*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== "Decline" ref====

When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.

I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.

*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Backwards joke ====

The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].

*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*'''oh...wait''' I actually, upon one more listen, realized I was just tired and bored and hearing things. darn. Well...it could be the sound quality! Like, yeah totally! I'm hopeless... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 16:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who put it up.... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:54, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''

==== Not Plugged In ====
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.
**'''Second'''
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[part-time job]] ===
==== SWF File====
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]

*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Relative ====
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?

*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Dilbert ====
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.

''Also seen worded as:''

The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.

*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I dident know that
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Buh-hubs ====
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Someday ====
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].

*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== League of Women Voters ====
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.

*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

==== Fat Cheat ====
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[time capsule]] ===

==== World-Class Hole ====
The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].
*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Opposite approach ====
The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.

==== Alms for the poor ===

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:Interrup

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:52:53 GMT

BegyLips: /* Teen Girl Squad Issue 8 */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

====Gloomy Keyboardist====
When So-and-so has on her "Gloomy Keyboardist" look, Strong Sad is visible on her shirt.

===[[other days]]===

==== Thor? ====
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder.

*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Three Noses? ====
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.

*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]

===[[dreamail]]===

==== "Decline" ref====

When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.

I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.

*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Backwards joke ====

The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].

*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*'''oh...wait''' I actually, upon one more listen, realized I was just tired and bored and hearing things. darn. Well...it could be the sound quality! Like, yeah totally! I'm hopeless... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 16:14, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who put it up.... --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:54, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''

==== Not Plugged In ====
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.
**'''Second'''
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[part-time job]] ===
==== SWF File====
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall: [[Image:part-time-job-screenshot.jpg|Active Camaflouge Strong Bad]]

*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Relative ====
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?

*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Dilbert ====
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.

''Also seen worded as:''

The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.

*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I dident know that
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Buh-hubs ====
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Someday ====
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].

*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental cliché, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== League of Women Voters ====
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.

*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

==== Fat Cheat ====
according to the Cheats hieght and weight his Body Mass Index is 64.6 normal weight is between 18.5 and 24.9 and obesity starts at 30 [[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and bad spelling. The Cheat is not a human, so BMI doesn't apply to him. Would you use BMI to see if a dog is overweight? [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:36, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:38, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:16, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' This isn't AIM.--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:53, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[time capsule]] ===

==== World-Class Hole ====
The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].
*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Opposite approach ====
The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm ===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.

==== Alms for the poor ===

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:Interrup

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:39:48 GMT

BegyLips: /* Broken phone */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Marzipan a Vegitarian? ====

Marzipan saying she would cook Homestar's goose isnt reasonable, since Marzipan is a vegetarian.

*'''decline-''' We all know marzipan is a vegitarian, and cook someones goose isnt about food, why is this even here?

==== Aught Four Crap ====

Bubs's "aught four crap" is a reference to old comics, where Strong Bad inexplicably pronounces '04 as "aught-four", at the very end of the email. Hence, Bubs's aught-four crap is most likely all the stuff he never sold in the entirety of 2004.

*'''decline''' This should be nixed, "aught four" just means 04, it isnt a reference to "old comics" it is just an old timey way to say "oh-four" this isnt a reference to something strong bad says, this is just a phrase that two different chracters said.

==== Broken phone ====

Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/51/ Salad Fingers] Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/39/ rusty metal], this might be intentional.

*'''Decline.''' I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Decline.''' Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
*'''Decline.''' It's more than likely a reference to [[replacement]] rather than salad fingers. -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips

==== Has what it takes ====

Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.

*'''Decline.''' Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline''' Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --[[user:super orange!|super orange!]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]

==== "Oh cwap" vs "I say.." ====

Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to [[The King Of Town DVD]], when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."
*'''Uber-decline''' That is the one of the biggest stretches ever. [[user:super orange!|super orange! the lone/first voter!]]

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)

**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[Xhycho]]

**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]

==== Garfield X-mas ====

Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302596/ Garfield Christmas Special], in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."

*I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of an Xmas tree immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]]. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

*That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
**Second. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam strikes again!]]
***This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

*'''Decline''' - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

=== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ===

Could Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone is a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

=== [[the facts]] ===

====G'oh!====

The way Strong Bad says Jess' last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"

*'''Accept.''' I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Channel 3 ====

The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.

*'''Decline.''' I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' I don't think people in NTSC countries care either. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 17:22, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:seedling|seedling]] 14:14, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*'''Decline.''' Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Homestar's cartoon ====

The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really ''does'' eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.

*'''Rewrite/Decline.''' I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' More opinion than fact. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Weak Rewrite.''' Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see [http://www.askoxford.com Ox. Engl. Dict.] or [http://dictionary.reference.com dictionary.com]). --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

=== [[radio]] ===

==== Four-and-twenty stone ====
1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.

*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe [[TBC]] wouldn't promote marijuana here. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
**Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]]
*'''Decline.''' 'Stone' is referring to weight, so he's probably saying how his voice sounds 'heavier.' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]]

==== The fish was delish ====
Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.

(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)

*'''Decline.''' It's actually an old broadcasting cliché - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Please see below as I'm adding this as a fact for consideration. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Crackity towel! ====

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Ditto.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:42, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
==== Senor Cardgage ====

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].

*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second'''ed on both accounts. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Crackotage ====

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]

*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from [[Malloween Commercial]] sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Bruce Almighty ====

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]

==== Plugged in ====

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline.''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Highball! ====

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]

*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --[[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

* The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== Foster's Home ====
The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, [[Sterrance]], could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, [http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/fosters/index.html Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

*Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish ====
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral.''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline.''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:41, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]

==== Pikmin thing? ====
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*To quote Strong Bad: '''"No no no."''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Finding Nemo ====
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:02, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat

==== Second Wall Breaking ====
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Soolnd ====
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:03, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== LCD Screen ====
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:45, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Ridiculous ====
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!

==== Christmas Lights ====
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But.. in [[The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever|The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever]] they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]
***So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***"The kids used xmas lights to decorate their dorm room year round." :-) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Else someone needs to say that [http://www.chickfila.com Chick Fil-A] in [[Senor Mortgage]] and [http://www.hardees.com Hardee's] in [[colonization]] were the few references to commercial fast food. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Subject Line, etc. ====
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:05, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This info is already on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Segmented Eyes ====
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
****You can cheat on Wikipedia links: [[Wikipedia:Compound eye|compound eyes]]. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*****Ooh, very nice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept.''' I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is [http://www.google.com/search?as_epq=segmented+eye&as_sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org not a scientific term] at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes.     Even mudskippers (except Muddy) [http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-09/968709436.Zo.r.html don't 'really' have] "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**I'd [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+%22segmented+eyes%22+ try again] if I were you. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly. Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***It's not that they're using some term incorrectly. They're not using the term at all! --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
***True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
****The evidence is [http://www.google.com/search?q=muddy+mudskipper+%22segmented+eyes%3F%22&btnG=Search here] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***I didn't say it's commonly used. When it ''is'' used, it's sometimes used by non-scientists to describe what really should be called compound eyes. See what I mean [http://www.tohokingdom.com/web_pages/kajiu_bios/kamacuras.htm here], [http://www.geocities.com/sonconvoy/review_waspinator.html here] and [http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:R1RBhd8LU6kJ:members.tripod.com/~CAIN7/dgnat.htm++%22segmented+eyes%22+&hl=en here]. I can't find [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ainsectguide.net+%22segmented+eyes%22 any] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awikipedia.org+%22segmented+eyes% credible] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aentomology.si.edu+%22segmented+eyes%22 evidence] of the term "segmented eyes" being used in a scientific zoological context. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept.''' More than speculation b/c: 1. Term is [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=compound+eye&q2=segmented+eye&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us comparatively rare]; 2. Term is used in correct context, in referring to a crazy animal feature; 3. [http://www.unb.ca/bruns/0203/24/entertainment/homestar.html TBC watch Ren & Stimpy] for inspiration (at bottom of page, best to use browser search), and Muddy is a popular part of the cartoon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** It's not just "comparatively rare", it's actually [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=%22compound+eye%22&q2=%22segmented+eye%22&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us very rare] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

==== These Speculations ====
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. ''{NB: I assumed nobody would complain, so I removed it'' --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]''}''
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat

==== Speculations, Again ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]]. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*<strike>'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</strike>
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Tch, you're right. Okay, change my vote to a '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]].

*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' Besides, we can't even be 100% sure Lappy ''will'' bite the dust (consider how shock many if not all of us were when Compy went bye-bye). -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]

==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already. Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact. This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''. TBC have made other [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search Three Stooges references]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The reference in [[In Search of the Yello Dello|Yello Dello]] seems weak, but in [[lackey]] it's quite clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
I'm tired of brackets!]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]

==== Email number ====
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends ====
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' The "Trouble Alert" also showed up in big letters on a huge monitor in the main meeting room. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' This isn't a noteworthy fact.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Speaking ====
This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.

*'''Accept''' Seems noteworthy to me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify.''' That is pretty whack. Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Page title ====

The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== All white stuff on his face ====

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===

==== Drink Me? ====
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Main Page 22]] ===

==== The Old Man Fishin' ====

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

==== Soda Physics ====

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[personal favorites]] ===

==== The Beginning and the End ====

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[impression]] ===

==== Elephant Slippers ====

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

*'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Get it off ====

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

=== [[Malloween Commercial]] ===

==== Mallowcremes ====

"[[Fluffy Puff Malloweens|Malloweens]]" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.

*'''Decline.''' It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

=== [[Decemberween Kid's Book]] ===

==== Magic Ball #1 ====

The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the ''Palantir'' from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.

==== Magic Ball #2 ====

The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.

==== Magic Ball #3 ====

Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.
*'''Decline.''' I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Animal House ====

The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film ''Animal House'', when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.
*'''Decline.''' This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the [http://www.school-house-rock.com Schoolhouse Rock] classic about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' Why does everyone think that just because they heard it on a show it was unique only to that show?? --[[User: Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 09:44, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== The Brothers Chaps ===

==== 'Til Death and all that ====
Both of the Brothers are married.
*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' Hmm. Okay! --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Accept.''' Where is this on the wiki? It's obvious that Mike is married b/c of [[Missy Palmer|his wife]] doing Marzipan's voice, but I didn't know about Matt. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:35:55 GMT

BegyLips: /* Broken phone - Fixed grammar. And 66.153.8.26 is in fact me. I forgot to log in*/

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Broken phone ====

Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/51/ Salad Fingers] Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/39/ rusty metal], this might be intentional.

*'''Decline.''' I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Decline.''' Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. -[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

==== Has what it takes ====

Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.

*'''Decline.''' Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

==== "Oh cwap" vs "I say.." ====

Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to [[The King Of Town DVD]], when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)

**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[Xhycho]]

*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]

==== Garfield X-mas ====

Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302596/ Garfield Christmas Special], in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."

*I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of an Xmas tree immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]]. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

*That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
**This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

*'''Decline''' - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ===

Could Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone is a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

=== [[the facts]] ===

==== Channel 3 ====

The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.

*'''Decline.''' I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' I don't think people in NTSC countries care either. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 17:22, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:seedling|seedling]] 14:14, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*'''Decline.''' Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Homestar's cartoon ====

The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really ''does'' eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.

*'''Rewrite/Decline.''' I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' More opinion than fact. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Weak Rewrite.''' Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see [http://www.askoxford.com Ox. Engl. Dict.] or [http://dictionary.reference.com dictionary.com]). --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

=== [[radio]] ===

==== Four-and-twenty stone ====
1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.

*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe [[TBC]] wouldn't promote marijuana here. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
**Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]]

==== The fish was delish ====
Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.

(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)

*'''Decline.''' It's actually an old broadcasting cliché - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Please see below as I'm adding this as a fact for consideration. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P
:Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Crackity towel! ====

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Ditto.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:42, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
==== Senor Cardgage ====

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].

*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second'''ed on both accounts. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Crackotage ====

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]

*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from [[Malloween Commercial]] sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Bruce Almighty ====

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]

==== Plugged in ====

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline.''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Highball! ====

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]

*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --[[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

* The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== Foster's Home ====
The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, [[Sterrance]], could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, [http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/fosters/index.html Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

*Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish ====
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral.''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline.''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:41, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]

==== Pikmin thing? ====
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*To quote Strong Bad: '''"No no no."''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Finding Nemo ====
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:02, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat

==== Second Wall Breaking ====
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Soolnd ====
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:03, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== LCD Screen ====
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:45, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Ridiculous ====
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!

==== Christmas Lights ====
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But.. in [[The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever|The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever]] they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]
***So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***"The kids used xmas lights to decorate their dorm room year round." :-) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Else someone needs to say that [http://www.chickfila.com Chick Fil-A] in [[Senor Mortgage]] and [http://www.hardees.com Hardee's] in [[colonization]] were the few references to commercial fast food. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Subject Line, etc. ====
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:05, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This info is already on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Segmented Eyes ====
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
****You can cheat on Wikipedia links: [[Wikipedia:Compound eye|compound eyes]]. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*****Ooh, very nice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept.''' I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is [http://www.google.com/search?as_epq=segmented+eye&as_sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org not a scientific term] at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes.     Even mudskippers (except Muddy) [http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-09/968709436.Zo.r.html don't 'really' have] "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**I'd [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+%22segmented+eyes%22+ try again] if I were you. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly. Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***It's not that they're using some term incorrectly. They're not using the term at all! --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
***True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
****The evidence is [http://www.google.com/search?q=muddy+mudskipper+%22segmented+eyes%3F%22&btnG=Search here] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***I didn't say it's commonly used. When it ''is'' used, it's sometimes used by non-scientists to describe what really should be called compound eyes. See what I mean [http://www.tohokingdom.com/web_pages/kajiu_bios/kamacuras.htm here], [http://www.geocities.com/sonconvoy/review_waspinator.html here] and [http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:R1RBhd8LU6kJ:members.tripod.com/~CAIN7/dgnat.htm++%22segmented+eyes%22+&hl=en here]. I can't find [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ainsectguide.net+%22segmented+eyes%22 any] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awikipedia.org+%22segmented+eyes% credible] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aentomology.si.edu+%22segmented+eyes%22 evidence] of the term "segmented eyes" being used in a scientific zoological context. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept.''' More than speculation b/c: 1. Term is [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=compound+eye&q2=segmented+eye&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us comparatively rare]; 2. Term is used in correct context, in referring to a crazy animal feature; 3. [http://www.unb.ca/bruns/0203/24/entertainment/homestar.html TBC watch Ren & Stimpy] for inspiration (at bottom of page, best to use browser search), and Muddy is a popular part of the cartoon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** It's not just "comparatively rare", it's actually [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=%22compound+eye%22&q2=%22segmented+eye%22&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us very rare] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

==== These Speculations ====
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. ''{NB: I assumed nobody would complain, so I removed it'' --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]''}''
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat

==== Speculations, Again ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]]. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*<strike>'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</strike>
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Tch, you're right. Okay, change my vote to a '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]].

*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' Besides, we can't even be 100% sure Lappy ''will'' bite the dust (consider how shock many if not all of us were when Compy went bye-bye). -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]

==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already. Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact. This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''. TBC have made other [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search Three Stooges references]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The reference in [[In Search of the Yello Dello|Yello Dello]] seems weak, but in [[lackey]] it's quite clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
I'm tired of brackets!]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]

==== Email number ====
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends ====
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' The "Trouble Alert" also showed up in big letters on a huge monitor in the main meeting room. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' This isn't a noteworthy fact.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Speaking ====
This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.

*'''Accept''' Seems noteworthy to me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify.''' That is pretty whack. Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Page title ====

The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== All white stuff on his face ====

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===

==== Drink Me? ====
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Main Page 22]] ===

==== The Old Man Fishin' ====

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

==== Soda Physics ====

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[personal favorites]] ===

==== The Beginning and the End ====

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[impression]] ===

==== Elephant Slippers ====

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

*'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

==== Get it off ====

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

=== [[Malloween Commercial]] ===

==== Mallowcremes ====

"[[Fluffy Puff Malloweens|Malloweens]]" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.

*'''Decline.''' It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]

=== [[Decemberween Kid's Book]] ===

==== Magic Ball #1 ====

The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the ''Palantir'' from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.

==== Magic Ball #2 ====

The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.

==== Magic Ball #3 ====

Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.
*'''Decline.''' I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Animal House ====

The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film ''Animal House'', when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.
*'''Decline.''' This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the [http://www.school-house-rock.com Schoolhouse Rock] classic about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' Why does everyone think that just because they heard it on a show it was unique only to that show?? --[[User: Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 09:44, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== The Brothers Chaps ===

==== 'Til Death and all that ====
Both of the Brothers are married.
*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' Hmm. Okay! --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Accept.''' Where is this on the wiki? It's obvious that Mike is married b/c of [[Missy Palmer|his wife]] doing Marzipan's voice, but I didn't know about Matt. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

Olda Boys

BegyLips — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:38:57 GMT

BegyLips: Changed "preety" to "pretty"

[[Image:oldaboys.png|thumb|right|220px|I too miss video games]]

The '''Olda Boys''' are college boys that were at the vacation beach with [[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], and [[The Ugly One]]. One misses video games, but the other misses his mom even more. They can also do a pretty cool jam together, made from what they both say.

The longer-haired one earned a [[Quote of the Week]].

[[Category: Teen Girl Squad Characters]]

Talk:Snowglobe

BegyLips — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:30:09 GMT

BegyLips:

I doubt "Nana" is a reference to Cheat Commando's...O's. They just happened to use the word in both toons. Seeing the sports court in "Yello Dello" doesn't make it a reference to "Jorb Well Done."
I changed "is" to "might be."
-FatPamPam

Agreed, FPP. Also, perhaps we could mention that Trogdor's "voice" is akin to any computer-generated voice synthesizer, much like Stephen Hawking's "voice." -FireLily

Anyone know who deleted my comment on Nana being a reference to Ice Climber? It seems relevant because A. It's winter, thus Ice; and B. There is a reference to NES games also on the site in [[japanese cartoon]]. -BegyLips

Snowglobe

BegyLips — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:48:36 GMT

BegyLips: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:snowglobe.png|thumb|A good gift for Nana]]

A weird snow globe type thing with Rather Dashing.

'''Characters (in order of apperance): '''[[Rather Dashing]], [[Trogdor]]

'''Page Title:''' Have a Rather Dashing Decemberween!

== Transcript ==
''{Scene opens to a wintry version of the burninated cottage from Peasant's Quest, with an odd blue object with a red bottom in the screen as well. The score in the corner reads "0 out of 1." Rather Dashing walks on in winter attire. The command "look" is typed in, loading up the following text}''

<pre>
Even your burninated hovel
looks picturesque in the
cold Peasantry snow. Oh,
and there's a snowglobe on
the ground. That's what
that red and blue thing is.
A snowglobe.
</pre>

''{The command "get snowglobe" is typed. Rather Dashing picks up the globe, and the score counter changes to "1 out of 1." The following text appears, as the got item sound from Peasant's Quest plays}''

<pre>
Hey! It's a Trogdor snow
globe! Now you have a
Decemberween present for
Nana. Score!
</pre>

''{The Trogdor snow globe appears on-screen, with the text "Greetings from Peasantry" on it}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end you can shake the snowglobe. As you shake it, eventually a "Time Wasted" counter will keep track of how much time you spend shaking the snowglobe. The timer will count up as long as either you hold down the mouse button on the snowglobe or the snow (and peasants) in it are moving.
*If you shake the snowglobe for 2 minutes you will get this message (as spoken by Trogdor himself):

<pre>Congratulations! You
wasted more time than any-
body else ever has. Happy
Decemberween, peasant.
Your life will be spared
for another day.</pre>

== Fun Facts ==
*In case you couldn't tell, this is a reference to Peasant's Quest.
*'Nana' might be a reference to [[Cheat Commandos...O's]], or maybe thats what [[The Brothers Chaps]] call their grandmother.
**Also, Nana is the name of the female (pink) eskimo in an old NES game called Ice Climber.
*An ActionScript allows you to press Enter or Spacebar to advance to the next event (if you don't feel like clicking the text).
*To hear Trogdor speak sooner, you can right-click on the toon and press "Play." This only works if you are watching the .swf file.
**Or, you could use the [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] and seek ahead a few pixels

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/xmas04_pq.html view the snow globe]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/xmas04_pq.swf view the flash file for the snow globe]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1524 forum thread re: "Snow Globe"]
[[Category: Holiday Toons]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:33:31 GMT

BegyLips: /* virus - Deleted the prize reference I made cause it was already mentioned */

__NOTOC__
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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[radio]] ===

==== Crackity towel! ====

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Ditto.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Senor Cardgage ====

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].

*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second'''ed on both accounts. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Crackotage ====

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]

*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from [[Malloween Commercial]] sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Bruce Almighty ====

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**'''Second'''. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Plugged in ====

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

==== Highball! ====

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]

*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. '''Second'''ed [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish ====
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pikmin thing? ====
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*To quote Strong Bad: '''"No no no."''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Finding Nemo ====
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:02, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Second Wall Breaking ====
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Soolnd ====
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:03, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== LCD Screen ====
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== Ridiculous ====
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!

==== Christmas Lights ====
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

==== Subject Line, etc. ====
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:05, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Segmented Eyes ====
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== These Speculations ====
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*<s>'''Second''' for '''Rewrite.'''</s> '''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. Ignore the following: Definitely refers to "the show." TBC often has Strongbad randomly host toons. See SB's commentary on [[The King of Town DVD]] and his announcing in [[monster truck]]. An example rewrite would be:
**Strong Bad's gameshow-style descriptions of the Lappy and the easter-egg Anglerfish refer to [[The Show]]. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***I reiterate: not true. Although this type of description is frequent in gameshows and the setting is taken directly from The Show, the description itself is never seen on the show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***"The Show" mocks gameshows in general. If TBC decide to add another aspect of gameshows in their mockery, it's probably not a big deal. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Speculations, Again ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]]. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]]. Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?

*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already. Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact. This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''. TBC have made other [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search|Three Stooges references]]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
I'm tired of brackets!]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy

==== Email number ====
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends ====
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== All white stuff on his face ====

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===

==== Drink Me? ====
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[Main Page 22]] ===

==== The Old Man Fishin' ====

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]

==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

==== Soda Physics ====

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[personal favorites]] ===

==== The Beginning and the End ====

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[impression]] ===

==== Elephant Slippers ====

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

:'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Accept.'''
***Note: Anonymous comments on this page aren't accepted. If you want to take part, get a user account and sign your posts. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== The Brothers Chaps ===

==== 'Til Death and all that ====
Both of the Brothers are married.
*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:52:26 GMT

BegyLips: /* Bruce Almighty */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[radio]] ===

==== Crackity towel! ====

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

==== Senor Cardgage ====

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].

*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

==== Crackotage ====

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]

*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

==== Bruce Almighty ====

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

==== Plugged in ====

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

==== Highball! ====

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]

*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish ====
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pikmin thing? ====
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Finding Nemo ====
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Second Wall Breaking ====
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Soolnd ====
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

==== LCD Screen ====
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== Ridiculous ====
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!

==== Christmas Lights ====
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

==== Subject Line, etc. ====
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Segmented Eyes ====
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== These Speculations ====
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*<s>'''Second''' for '''Rewrite.'''</s> '''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. Ignore the following: Definitely refers to "the show." TBC often has Strongbad randomly host toons. See SB's commentary on [[The King of Town DVD]] and his announcing in [[monster truck]]. An example rewrite would be:
**Strong Bad's gameshow-style descriptions of the Lappy and the easter-egg Anglerfish refer to [[The Show]]. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***I reiterate: not true. Although this type of description is frequent in gameshows and the setting is taken directly from The Show, the description itself is never seen on the show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***"The Show" mocks gameshows in general. If TBC decide to add another aspect of gameshows in their mockery, it's probably not a big deal. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Speculations, Again ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== That's not a good prize ====
When strong bad says "that's not a good prize," it probably means he was hoping to get one for having a "New Record" for viruses.

*'''Accept.''' It seems likely enough. -Dukbur(12/14/04)

==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]]. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]]. Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?

*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already. Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact. This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''. TBC have made other [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search|Three Stooges references]]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
I'm tired of brackets!]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy

==== Email number ====
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends ====
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== All white stuff on his face ====

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Minute/60.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Decline.''' If I am right, it is a simple database mistake. hardly really noting.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Decline''' This is not a very "fun" fact, besides, other email menus on the site had the same thing. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:44, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===

==== Drink Me? ====
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:42, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I think this is noted in the transcript. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's obvious to me, and probably most of the Internet-accessing English-speaking world. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:55, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If they "are clearly made" as you say they are then there is no need to point it out. --[[User:mikeaitch|mikeaitch]] 14:08, 1 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Decline.''' as the rule says "if it is obvious vote on it, if it is THAT obvious, delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
***'''Second.''' It's... clearly so, yes, that's the idea. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:41, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*I deleted this. I don't think anyone minds. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*That's not the subliminal advertising! This is: ScoreXZone And Duh, they look like a skull and cross bones! Furthermore... '''DECLINED'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

=== [[Main Page 22]] ===

==== The Old Man Fishin' ====

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

==== Soda Physics ====

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[personal favorites]] ===

==== The Beginning and the End ====

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[impression]] ===

==== Elephant Slippers ====

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

:'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Accept.'''
***Note: Anonymous comments on this page aren't accepted. If you want to take part, get a user account and sign your posts. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== The Brothers Chaps ===

==== 'Til Death and all that ====
Both of the Brothers are married.
*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

BegyLips — Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:18:53 GMT

BegyLips: /* Bruce Almighty */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[radio]] ===

==== Crackity towel! ====

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

==== Senor Cardgage ====

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].

*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

==== Crackotage ====

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]

*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

==== Bruce Almighty ====

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]

==== Plugged in ====

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

=== [[animal]] ===

==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish ====
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pikmin thing? ====
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Finding Nemo ====
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Second Wall Breaking ====
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Soolnd ====
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

==== LCD Screen ====
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== Ridiculous ====
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!

==== Christmas Lights ====
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

==== Subject Line, etc. ====
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Segmented Eyes ====
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

==== These Speculations ====
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*<s>'''Second''' for '''Rewrite.'''</s> '''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. Ignore the following: Definitely refers to "the show." TBC often has Strongbad randomly host toons. See SB's commentary on [[The King of Town DVD]] and his announcing in [[monster truck]]. An example rewrite would be:
**Strong Bad's gameshow-style descriptions of the Lappy and the easter-egg Anglerfish refer to [[The Show]]. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***I reiterate: not true. Although this type of description is frequent in gameshows and the setting is taken directly from The Show, the description itself is never seen on the show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***"The Show" mocks gameshows in general. If TBC decide to add another aspect of gameshows in their mockery, it's probably not a big deal. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Speculations, Again ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== That's not a good prize ====
When strong bad says "that's not a good prize," it probably means he was hoping to get one for having a "New Record" for viruses.

==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]]. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]]. Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?

*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already. Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact. This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''. TBC have made other [[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search|Three Stooges references]]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
I'm tired of brackets!]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy

==== Email number ====
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends ====
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== All white stuff on his face ====

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Minute/60.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Decline.''' If I am right, it is a simple database mistake. hardly really noting.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Decline''' This is not a very "fun" fact, besides, other email menus on the site had the same thing. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:44, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===

==== Drink Me? ====
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:42, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I think this is noted in the transcript. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's obvious to me, and probably most of the Internet-accessing English-speaking world. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:55, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If they "are clearly made" as you say they are then there is no need to point it out. --[[User:mikeaitch|mikeaitch]] 14:08, 1 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Decline.''' as the rule says "if it is obvious vote on it, if it is THAT obvious, delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
***'''Second.''' It's... clearly so, yes, that's the idea. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:41, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*I deleted this. I don't think anyone minds. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*That's not the subliminal advertising! This is: ScoreXZone And Duh, they look like a skull and cross bones! Furthermore... '''DECLINED'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

=== [[Main Page 22]] ===

==== The Old Man Fishin' ====

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====

The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

==== Soda Physics ====

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[personal favorites]] ===

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== General ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Accept.'''
***Note: Anonymous comments on this page aren't accepted. If you want to take part, get a user account and sign your posts. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== The Brothers Chaps ===
Both of the Brothers are married.
*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]

=== [[impression]] ===

==== Elephant Slippers ====

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

:'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)