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Magazine Sightings

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== Computer Source Magazine ==
The January 2004 issue of Seattle-area magazine ''Computer Source'' featured a group of people who had determined how many browser windows they could open to Homestarrunner.com before the computer crashed.

== Discover Magazine ==
In the June 2005 issue of ''Discover'', in the article "A double-blind, random, case-controlled, clinical, and thoroughly unscientific study of MIT nerds" (page 43), a full-page picture shows an MIT student named Amanda Seybold wearing a Trogdor T-shirt
[[http://www.discover.com/images/issues/jun-05/mit-cookies.jpg]].

== Entertainment Weekly ==
*In 2003, ''Entertainment Weekly'' proclaimed The Brothers Chaps were the "It Web Cartoonists" as part of their annual "It List," which names off who they consider to be the most significant entertainers of the year. They asked Matt whether or not they would ever consider putting Strong Bad and Homestar on TV, to which he replied: "It's more punk rock if you do it yourself." This article also mentioned the upcoming DVDs.
*HomestarRunner.com made the "100 Sites to Bookmark Now" list.

== GamePro ==

In the June 2006 issue, it says "Mario Paint was a pretty decent piece of software for the 16-bit SNES. It was educational, artistic and was even used to create the very first ''Homestar Runner'' cartoon".

== Game Informer ==
*In one issue of ''Game Informer'', during the review of the video game Baten Kaitos, it showed a picture of Kalas with the caption: "Ya gotta have blue hair!"
*In another issue of ''Game Informer'', in the review of Alien Hominid, it mentioned that the mood of the game was far more reminiscent of Homestar Runner than of Contra.
*In yet another issue of ''Game Informer'', in the review of Street Fighter, it said "Can I interest you in some light fighting, or maybe a challenge?"
*In the April '06 issue of ''Game Informer'', Stinkoman 20X6 is named number 10 of the "Top Ten Games You've Never Heard Of", a list of shareware internet games.
*In the May 2006 issue of ''Game Informer'', the title of a box in the "Classic GI" section on Mega Man 2 is "Are you asking for a challenge?"
*In the October 2006 issue, Drew Settlemire asked for any suggestions to stop the prerelease [[jibblies]].
*In the December 2006 issue on page 56, two geeks can be seen swordfighting and calling each other nerds. One of them is wearing a Strong Bad hoodie, the design of which is available in the [[Store]].
*In the December 2007 issue on page 83, on a review for ''[[Wikipedia:Godzilla: Unleashed| Godzilla: Unleashed]]'', there is a caption that says, "[[Burninating]] the countryside."
*In the June 2008 issue, [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]] is mentioned in the "impulse" article on page 38.
*In the February 2009 issue, Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People is briefly mentioned at the end of the WiiWare section in the article "Hardcore Gamer's Guide to the Wii" (pages 12-13).
*In the July 2009 issue, the [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]] Collector's DVD is listed in the Connect|Gear section's Media Shelf, as the number five (of five) item on the list. (page 31)

== Game-Now Magazine ==
Issue 12 of the now-defunct ''Game-Now'' magazine featured Homestar Runner as "Hot" in the "Hot or Not" section. ([http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5953/gamennow1.jpg Scan])

== The Guardian Guide ==
[[Image:Strong Bad Emails Guard.JPG|thumb|Gaze-mazing article.]]
September 6th's internet column featured Strong Bad emails. Strangely, [[Strong Sad]] was described as Strong Bad's "sister".

== Hyper ==
*''Hyper'', an Australian electronics magazine, gave Homestar Runner the following mention in its special section: "Dear readers, please go to homestarrunner.com before I beat the everloving snot out of you. Sincerely, Hyper." 
*In one issue, Hyper was speculating on Yetisports on console. On the subject of the internet games being published, they said, "Trogdor the Burninator for PS3 next!"
*In the October 2005 issue, a special report on Everquest had a picture of a character's behind, and in the character's speech bubble, it said, "Butt Dance, Butt Dance..."

==The Magazine==
*In the November 2004 issue, the phone tag section has a reader who says that Homestar would make an awsome guest host. They responded to this with a picture of Homestar and a quote from [[First time Here?]].

== Muse Magazine ==
An article about dragons, included in the November/December 2003 issue, contained links to [[TROGDOR!]] and [[dragon]].

== New York Magazine ==
In the November 19, 2007 issue, Homestar Runner is featured in the Animation section. [http://nymag.com/movies/features/videos/40655/]

==NGamer==
In issue #33, March, they featured a two page review of SBCG4AP's "16 Top Best Moments"

== Nintendo Power ==
[[Image:Nintendo Power Viidelectrix.jpg|thumb|"...and the humor is... well, ''unique.''"]]
*In volume 214 (April 2007) of [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Power|Nintendo Power]], [[Viidelectrix]] is featured in the Community section's "Websites" column (page 95). A screenshot of [[Population: Tire]] is also shown.
* In the May 2008 issue (Volume 229), they have a little column on SBCG4AP. The next issue (Volume 230) featured an interview with Strong Bad about the game.
*In the September 2008 issue, they discussed [[Strong Badia the Free]] and [[Baddest of the Bands]].

== The Official Australian Nintendo Magazine ==
*In the December 2008 Issue (the first), Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People is mentioned in the Wiiware section as the top WiiWare game and a rating of 88%.

== Official Playstation Magazine ==
*In the Reviews section of the January, 2006 issue of this popular gaming magazine, the voice of Pac-Man in ''Pac-Man World 3'' is described as "reminding us a lot of the Homestar Runner character [[Stinkoman]], which fans of the site know is not a compliment."
*In an article about Final Fantasy, a character's name in a screenshot is [[Fhqwhgads]].

==Official Xbox Magazine==
* The newest issue has a picture of [[Wikipedia:Aqua Teen Hunger Force|Aqua Teen Hunger Force's]] Carl performing air guitar, with the caption "wheedlie, wheedlie, wheddlie, waaaah. Don't sue us."

== Owl Mag ==
Mention of "Alligator tied to a shark"- as in, bear holding a shark.
One of the April issues had this caption on the cover: PRANK'D. This is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]].

== PC World ==
* Homestar Runner is featured in the November 2008 issue's article ''10 Ways to Waste Time on the Web'', with a screenshot of the [[Index Page]]. It is also featured on [http://www.pcworld.com/article/151263-7/10_ways_to_waste_time_on_the_web.html its website].
* On the PC World website, a poster for the Wii game [[Homestar Ruiner]] is featured in a screenshot from the ''underrated'' Paint.NET on the 8th page in the article ''[http://www.pcworld.com/article/151402-8/the_10_most_overrated_products.html The 10 Most Overrated Products]''. (Although that article is also featured in the November 2008 issue, the screenshot is not.)
* Homestar Runner is also mentioned in the ''40 Fantastic Time-Wasting Web Sites'' article. [http://www.pcworld.com/article/169112-4/40_fantastic_timewasting_web_sites.html]

==PluggedIn==
The Focus on the Family media magazine "PluggedIn" featured an article on Flash content and commented on Homestarrunner.com, saying its content consisted mostly of "sophomoric silliness".

== ReadyMade ==
The August/September 2005 issue of ''ReadyMade'', a DIY magazine, features a picture of a dragon with the caption "Trogdor" scribbled onto a wall with crayon. The small article includes tips on removing crayon from one's wall. ([[:Image:File0035.jpg|Scan]])

== SBC Skateboard ==
In an issue last year, Ryan Stutt said that he totally ripped off Strong Bad for a "Sick Of It All" review.

== Star Wars Insider ==
In Star Wars Insider #66,a short story written by Michael A. Stackpole, called Elusion Illusion featured a cantina named Homestar cantina

== Super Play ==
In #122 (April 2006), the Swedish gaming magazine "Super Play" had two pages about Homestar Runner. The magazine gives a brief introduction to the site as well as examples of emails sent to Strong Bad and mentions the following games: Stinkoman 20X6, Trogdor, Peasant's Quest, Secret Collect, Dungeon Man, Strong Bad Zone, and Rhino Feeder.

== Time Magazine ==
On June 30, 2003, ''Time Magazine'' ran a short article called [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/archive/0,10987,1101030630-460201,00.html "A Star Is Born - On The Web"] which featured a picture of Homestar from [[Where's The Cheat?]], and said he was part of a funny cartoon website, [http://www.homestarrunner.com Homestarrunner.com]. The article also mentions [[Strong Bad]] (the article claims he is Homestar's "pal"), and compares Homestar and his friends to a post-modern [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|Peanuts]] gang. ([http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1005126,00.html preview of the article])

== Total Gamer ==
In an article on Wii (specificly on Wii Sports) from Issue 26, on page 38, there is a picture of Cam wearing a Strong Bad hoodie.

== Tucson Weekly ==
''[http://www.tucsonweekly.com Tucson Weekly]'' had [http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/music/Content?oid=oid:59640 an interview] of [[They Might Be Giants]] in their August 19, 2004 issue that included information on their relationship with [[The Brothers Chaps]]. Of particular note was the corroboration that a special [[Experimental Film]] video was being made for MTV. However, a new development is that the current internet version "is getting played on MTV in England, so it is finding some legitimate video life."

== Wired Magazine ==
*[[They Might Be Giants]] were interviewed and talked about Homestar Runner and the [[Experimental Film]] toon, among other things. Read it [http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.07/play.html here].
*''Wired Magazine'' has also featured a picture of the upcoming [[Homestar Runner RPG]].
*In the September 2005 issue of Wired Magazine, the Strong Bad DVD set is mentioned on page 70 under the "Play-Reviews" section.
*The May 2006 issue lists homestarunner.com in a listing of excellent web sites providing videos on the web, and features a list of "Strong Bad's <strike>Favorite</strike> LEAST favorite blogs!"
*[http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,71720-0.html?tw=wn_index_3 this column] on the magazine's website mentions Strong Bad.
*[http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/news/2007/06/homestarrunner Homestar Runner Rejects TV to Stay True to Web] — Published 18 June 2007, John Scott Lewinski discusses [[The Brothers Chaps]]' decision to keep Homestar Runner online and not move to TV.
*[http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/pl_scott_brown/ Why Some Memes Never Die] — Article about how some internet memes never go away, using the longevity of Homestar Runner as an example.

== Wonkavision ==
Issue #42 of the independent music magazine ''Wonkavision'' featured a picture of Homestar on the cover, as well as an article inside with an interview with The Brothers Chaps and several characters, plus game reviews, levels of fandom, character summaries, and random bits of info about the site and the people behind it.

== Yahoo! ==
In "The Funniest Sights on the Web" "Sketch Comedy" section, Homestar is listed as 'The unspectacular adventures of Homestar Runner, the net's dimmest (and most underrated) hero.'

[[Category: Sightings]]

HRWiki:Changing username

Bellstrom — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:04:35 GMT

Bellstrom:

The user name users choose for themselves is no longer set in stone. On request, [[HRWiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrats]] can change user account settings and article histories such that all previous edits of a given user are attributed to the new name using [[Special:Renameuser]]. Note: You must make the request from the account you want renamed; anonymous requests (except users whose usernames begin with a lowercase letter and therefore cannot log in) are ignored for security reasons.
==Requesting a change==

To change your user name, please make your request on this page. Please follow the procedure carefully or your request will not be fulfilled.

===Instructions===

#Check if the new name you want does not exist ([[Special:Listusers]]). '''Do not create an account under the new name'''. ''(If you already created the new account, don't worry. We can do some stuff and fix it, but it's still recommended that you don't.)''
#Sign in with the account that you want renamed.
#:''Of course, this is not possible if your account has a lowercase first letter. If you can't log in, then skip this step.''
#Add your request to the '''bottom''' of the section below. Use the following template: <code><nowiki>{{renameuser|Old username|New username}}</nowiki></code>
#Once your request is dealt with, all edits from your old account will be reattributed to your new account.
#Move and redirect your user page and talk page to the new name if it has not already been done.

==Current requests==
<div style="background:#FFC;text-align:center;border:1px solid #CC9">'''Please use this template for new requests: <tt><nowiki>{{renameuser|Old username|New username}}</nowiki></tt>'''</div>

=== Peter222 ===
{{renameuser|Peter222|Peter22}}
I don't really like my username. To many 2's. If you get rid of one it'll bother me less. Thank you.{{User:Peter222/sig}}
:On your user page, you state "I also despise my username", which says to me that you would not want to be stuck with Peter22. In order to avoid having to change your name a second time, I'm just going to wait till you come up with something you like as opposed to something that doesn't bother you as much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)::The excessive two's are the only reasons I dislike it. If I have one less I'd be fine with it and probably wouldn't change it again. Peter22 would not bother me at all.{{User:Peter222/sig}}
:::That's not what you said above. Your signature is just "Peter", so how about that? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

===MICGAGUH===
{{renameuser|MICGAGUH|The Username Searcher}}
Make the color of mine red, yellow, blue and purple. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
: <s>Um, wrong page. Try [[HRWiki:Signature]].</s> That was written when this looked like a simple request for a sig, but I don't know that putting in all the periods really helps anything. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, this is for changing the actual ''username''. For what comes up when you type "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>", then you can ask anybody, or change it yourself anytime. But only Bureaucrats can change your username. {{User:Thy Not Dennis/sig}} 19:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, Mr. I Can't Get A Good Username Here, instead of adding periods to your name, why don't we come up with a ''good'' username for you instead. Having to enter all those periods when you log in or when someone mentions you by name would probably get real old real fast. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
:Okay how about The Username Searcher? [[User:MICGAGUH]]
::MICGAGUH, you have the opportunity to ''think'' for a while about your username, and you should take this opportunity to do that. You don't ''have'' to have a username that implies you can't get a good username. Unless that's what you really want, in which case, I can't change it. But say so and a Bureaucrat will. {{User:Thy Not Dennis/sig}} 15:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Uh, what's a Bureaucrat? [[User:MICGAGUH]]
::::I'm a bureaucrat, but that's really not important. What ''is'' important is that you need to pick an actual name if you expect it to get changed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I already got user files on Wikipedia and the Super Mario Wiki! I'm not saying who, but I'm not using those names! [[User:MICGAGUH]]
::::::Why not? I have a Wikipedia account and my user name there is similar to my user name here (not identical because it's too common and someone else already claimed it, but similar enough.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:54, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Also, who cares what your names are there. The only thing that's relevant here is tht you pick an actual name for this wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::If you really want me to, change into Freakazoid or fight King Hippo in Punch-Out!! Wii [[User: MICGAGUH]]
:::::::::Pick the one you want. Change the template at the top of this thread. Be aware that I'm not going to change your name more than once, so be sure you like what you go with. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

===E.L. Cool===
{{renameuser|E.L. Cool|Elcool}}
No one called me E.L. Cool in a long time. Also, I switched to the shorter form on most other sites. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
:Done. I don't think I've ever tested changing a sysop's name before. It should be fine, but let me know if anything went awry permissions-wise. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you! Looks like everything is in place. Even tried to delete a page and it's all cool. My sig is literally on almost every talk page. Should that stay, or can some bot fix it? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 07:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:::There's no need to fix it en masse, especially since this was less of a name change and more of just a style change. Better and easier to just let the redirect do its thing. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

===Homestar-winner===
{{renameuser|Homestar-winner|Homestar-Winner}}
I think it looks better. And that's about it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 04:41, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, DC! But now I'm having trouble logging in on Firefox for some reason: [http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/Winnuh/Picture7.png?t=1255193889 See?] When I type in "Homestar-Winner" is loads as "Homestar-winner". Now I'm logged in using Safari. Do you has the solution? {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 17:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Clear your cache? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Or your dns cache? (Windows: in CMD, '''ipconfig /flushdns''' -- Linux/Ubuntu: [http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html Click Here]) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 17:34, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hey, DC, no matter what I do, it still keeps logging me in as "Homestar-winner" in Firefox. If it isn't too much trouble, could you maybe change my user name back to "Homestar-winner" so I can start editing in Firefox again? That has been the reason why I haven't made many edits lately... {{User:Homestar-Winner/sig}} 16:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Instead of just treating the symptom, I think we should try to figure out what the problem is instead. Close all Firefox tabs except for a blank one. Go to Tools > Clear Recent History. Choose Everything from the drop-down menu and make sure all the checkboxes are checked. Then press Clear Now. Close Firefox, and for good measure restart your computer. Then try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

===guybrush20X6===
{{renameuser|guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6}}
Need it changed due to this "no small letters first" thing.
:The user "guybrush20X6" does not exist. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::Just read that thing about signing in seperatly on the forum and the wiki. Do I just create a wiki acount?
:::Yep. They're separate databases. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

===RocketMasterZ===
{{renameuser|RocketMasterZ|CoachX}}
I want this username.
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

===TheHumstarRonner===
{{renameuser|TheHumstarRonner|Star Guy}}
TheHumstarRonner is too long, and I want spaces.
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

===Weegee156===
{{renameuser|Weegee156|TheThnikkaman}}
I want to have the same name that I do on the forum. It would just be alot more convenient for me. Thanks! {{unsigned|97.127.49.58|01:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)}}
:If this is really you, please log in to make the request. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:30, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

===Jc iindyysgvxc===
{{renameuser|Jc iindyysgvxc|RickTommy}}
I want my Youtube username over my Wikipedia username. [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|Jc iindyysgvxc]] 21:27, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

===McArbys===
{{renameuser|McArbys|The McArby}}

I created this account when I had some confusion in the Tales of the McArby title, It would be more accurate, which would be a load off my mind, plus my sig would be truthful on my name. -- [[User:McArbys|The McArby!]]
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

===HRjcm===
{{renameuser|HRjcm|JCM}}
About two years ago, I had my name changed so it would reflect my HRFWiki username, however, I had no idea the accounts would be linked after the purge and I'd have no access to my previous one there, and my current one isn't really appropriate for the fanstuff wiki and may cause confusion. So when you get back, could it be possible for you to rename my new cross-account to JCM, so it could be more recognizable to both sides from now on? I promise I won't bother you anymore after this. {{User:HRjcm/sig}} 23:15, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

===proffesor tor coolguy===
{{renameuser|proffesor tor coolguy|Proffesor Tor Coolguy}}
thanks to the system change I can't log in! please change!
: No such user, Stu. There is a "Professor Tor Coolguy" created in 2007, and a "Proffessor tor coolguy" created yesterday, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

===Ms. 1-Up Pie===
{{renameuser|Ms. 1-Up Pie|Power Pie}}
I made my account back when I didn't know 1-Up was a character. A boring one, at that. To avoid confusion as to my character preferences and because Power Pie sounds cooler, I'd like a name change. [[User:Ms. 1-Up Pie|Ms. 1-Up Pie]] 17:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:Done. Forum too? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

===Fangoriously===
{{renameuser|Fangoriously|Fangoriously5}}
I think it looks neat, and it will match my sig. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 03:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, no. Usernames are restricted to letters, numbers, spaces, hyphens, apostrophes, and periods. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::I won't edit until it's changed to Fangoriously5 --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 12:58, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Why do you need to change it?
::::I'd like to know the answer to that too. What's wrong with your name the way it is? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I like the number 5--{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 22:14, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::You've been using this name for over a year. I see no particular reason to go through the hassle of a name change just to add a numeral that makes your name less readable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

===Im a bell===
{{renameuser|Im a bell|Bellstrom}}
I've recently begun to use Bellstrom as my default online pseudonym, and I think it sounds a bit better than Im a bell. Also, I once had a terrible user character on the HRFWiki, and the WUW, but that's not important, by that name, and I'm trying to forget that... Thing. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 02:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

==Older requests==

*See [[HRWiki:Changing username/Archive]]

[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance|{{PAGENAME}}]]

Talk:Secret Pages

Bellstrom — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:08:28 GMT

Bellstrom: /* where is everything */

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==Homestarrunner Drawn in Crayon==

Thats not a secret page, you can get to it by going to the downloads page.

==Page of Unknown Origin==

I found this page in my favorites, definitely bookmarked LONG AGO, but I do not know how ''I'' found it, and cannot find anything about it here on the wiki. It's some kind of Homestarrunner-made page. [http://www.homestarrunner.com/mywedpage.html My Wedpage]. Could someone please say what this is all about?
-Ed 11:00, August 6 2006
:See [[Homestar's Website]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 15:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Secret Pages with their own pages ==

I just removed four external links to secret pages that have their own articles: [[Not the 100th Email!!!]], [[website]], [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and [[Email Processing Room]]. After doing so, I started thinking it might be worth our while to have some of the other pages that are linked to from here to have their own page. I mean, some of those old intros and stuff could use screenshots and better descriptions. So instead of a page with mostly external links, we would have a page with links to individual wiki pages about each secret page. How's that sound?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

Hmm... Sounds interesting. I just made a page for "Sing Along". Some of this stuff doesn't lend itself to wiki pages particularly well, though. I suppose the previews could go on the pages that they are previewing ("Reddest Raddish" preview on the "Reddest Raddish" page), but what about stuff like "Wireless Bizness?" That doesn't need a wiki page all to itself, does it? -FatPamPam

:I think it would be easy enough to judge what could use a page. And I've added [[Sing Along]] to a new [[:Category:Secret Pages]] category.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:34, 19 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Wireless Thingy ==

The old Wireless Bizness thing is not working anymore. Does someone have the transcripts for those emails?
- [[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]

I've been looking for the exact same thing for a while now. I've been on Homestar for a while and I was around while it was up. I remember it being hysterical. The only one I remember from it was the Salty Plum Soda one from stu that later became the rollover button on the toons page. I REALLY want someone to find this. [[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:25, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yeah! There was another one where he was trying help some guy out with the ladies, and his advice was basically, get a lot of money and cars, or switch to dudes. Is anyone else looking for this?

Yes I am. FIND IT, OR I WILL RAVAGE THE UNIVERSE!!!!!! Muhahahahaha. I er, um...suppose. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== SB Sign Explanation? ==

Might the "i am awesomer than you" Strong Bad "sign" actually be Strong Bad's "sign"ature on the Message Bored? Because the rules for the board imply that the characters, or at least Strong Bad, post. And it certainly seems like something Strong Bad would use on a message board.

== Wonder Years ==

Where did this page ever come from? It's in the "/sadjournal" folder.

:You might want to check out the [[Strong Sad's Lament]] and [[The Secrets That I Keep]] pages.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:47, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Can't Find Marzipan Answering Machine Message ==

So I've gone through all of the Marzipan answering machine messages, and I can't find one that I remember from a while back -- a prank of Strong Bad imitating Homestar Runner, saying that he'd accidentally killed someone and he needs Marzipan to meet him and bring a bunch of towels and plastic trash bags and shovels. Anyone know where I can find this little gem? Hi-larious.
*That's in [[Where's The Cheat?]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:33, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Halloween 01 ==

While I was searching for the swf file for Homestarloween (tto lazy to go to the wiki page), I tried going to "halloween01.swf", and I got [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf this]. Is this already up here and I just can't find it, or can I add it? And what is Coach Z dressed as? Pom Pom, too (no pun intended...though I think it's "the Skipper too"...no pun intended). --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]]
: I can't get it to work right now (dang those secret pages!) but I believe I've seen it before. I even have a picture of it on my computer. Basically, it's the entire cast minus Homsar in their 2001 Halloween costumes - almost. Pom Pom seems to be Gilligan's Skipper, and Coach Z is a Noid (an old pizza commercial mascot). --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Marzipan is also dressed like Velma from Scooby-Doo. The chheat has a different shirt too. I wonder where The KOT's moustache went? For some reason, that bouncing dot thing on the Poopsmith's costume (on the chest of his "armor" is moving up and down and back and forth. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:39, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:The bouncing dot is the LEDs from the Lazer Tag game. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:47, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== King of Town ==

Does anyone know anything about http://homestarrunner.com/mainking.html
:[[King of Town Main Page|Yes]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== If I ran the camera ==

I was just poking around the Wayback Machine and I found [http://web.archive.org/web/20021112210701/homestarrunner.com/ifiranthecamera this]. It doesn't seem to be on the current site and my computer is weird about some of the wayback archives. Can anybody get it to work? --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 15:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''''This discussion has been moved to [[Talk:If I Ran the Camera]].'''''


== Secret Buying Link ==

Hey guys. I found a sorta sercet page. Here's a link.
[https://secure.homestarrunner.com/heythanks.html] I found it when I was buying the new dvd. --[[Special:Randompage|Random man]] 22:38, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

We have seen it before, but good find. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:See [[Talk:Store#Hey Thanks]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Sucky treats costumes? ==

"www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf" does not exist anymore.. you get a 404'd error.. is there a mirror somewhere? if not.. someone should make one and relink it.. or something.

:Works for me. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::See [[Halloween Costumes#The House That Gave Sucky Treats (2001)]]. And the link works fine for me as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, i mean the hidden costumes page? the one that Coach Z is the Noid, and Marzipan is Velma from scooby doo.. the costumes are on that page, but not the flash file. Its linked from Secret pages, but (on my computer anyway?) its a 404'd.[[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:12, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Most of the time secret pages are 404'd. Just try again at a later date. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:14, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I'm talking about [http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/halloween01.swf], the Flash file you linked to. It works fine for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:16, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Oh.. well i guess i'm just retarded then.. thanx though. [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:31, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

By the way, there's a very similar conversation to this one just [[#Halloween 01|a few sections up]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::hahahha i just get more retarded as this conversation continues.. maybe i should do soemething about this.. [[User:Collin|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Collin|Collin]] 04:21, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I was looking for that file on the Wiki a while back. Couldn't find it (guess it was in 404 mode at the time, as I remember a "Halloween" page acting oddly...) Actually, I had the picture saved to disk for reasons that I no longer remember, and conveniently made the pictures on the Costumes page from that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== A mirror for the secret pages' files ==

I think we all agree that the old SWF files that we link to on this page do not work from time to time. I propose that Tom upload some (if not all) of these files to the wiki's mirror. Now that the forum is being hosted elsewhere (hats off to the kind individual from ''HomestarRules''), increased bandwidth usage as a result of the mirror isn't an issue. These files, in all likelihood, are on TBC's site indefinately. When/if these files finally go the way of "A Jumping Jack Contest" and "Marshmallow's Last Stand" (albeit for different reasons) it will/would be nice to have a mirror firmly in place. I am not proposing a removal of the current link(s) to the secret page under "External Links". Rather, an additional link for those people who get 404'd on occasion. Comments? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:27, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I agree.. it would be nice to have both links in the secrets page, like Main page and Mirror.. you could put some sort of note at the top that says the mirror is there for if the pages don't work. And i'm sure the mirror wouldn't get too much bandwidth abuse since the original files are on the website, its only like backup. And if the pages do ever go on permanent haitus then its no biggie since they're on the hrwiki right? --[[User:Collin|Collin]] 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Secret? ==

I was just browsing around archive.org and found [http://web.archive.org/web/20010129043500/http://homestarrunner.com/broncoend.html this]. The intersting part of the scourse says <pre><TITLE>Play Again</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#000000">

<A HREF=broncotrolleys.html></A> 
<center><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0"
ID=broncoend WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400>
<PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="broncoend.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#FFFFFF> <EMBED src="broncoend.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#FFFFFF WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=400 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></EMBED>
</OBJECT></center>
</BODY></pre>
It seems to be connected to [[Bronco Trolleys]]. Probably a "Game Over" screen. --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 16:35, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Scary Cake? ==

What happens when you click on the cherry from the Matt Cake page? From past experience, I think I'm a bit afraid to. Can anyone tell me?
:There's not much to it; you just see this other face appear in front of the "cake face". Oh, and sign your posts. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::That's the face of Dennis Franz, in case you were wondering.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==
This page isn't very organised. It's in six categories, but within those categories, they're just a mess. They're just strewen about in the order they were added. It needs to be cleaned up. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:See also [[#Secret Pages with their own pages]] as a possibility.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Secret Pages ==

I was browsing for images from Homestar Runner.com on Google Image Search and I found:

http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html - its like a fake Amazon.com page.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff1.html to http://www.homestarrunner.com/weenstuff/weenstuff40.html - although there might be a link to these, it is in museum format.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/fanstuff_pic.jpg - this is a pic used as current weekly fanstuff, it is updated with the flash file because it actually isn't changed, just the picture and the text are (this is mentioned on the weekly fanstuff article). For some strange reason, the page it is supposed to be on redirects to http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Weekly_Fanstuff

pictures such as http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes03.html are apparently from Fan Costume Commentary, however these are 404'd, so they are probably no-longer on the site.

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsbackground.jpg] - who knows?

http://www.homestarrunner.com/hsstamp.gif - the stamp used in the e-mail page.

nearly forgot to add my signature - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

:Bookazon.com/Bookazon.egg: linked to from [[studying]]
:weenstuff1 through 40: already linked (I think)
:hsbackground.jpg: the background for [[Homestar's Website]]
::Not sure about the others. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 09:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Cool Tapes, it's always good to know stuff - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

I did my homework and here is what i found out: the stamp is on the old e-mail updates page, but was re-used in the current e-mails page. I guess I know why nobody pointed that out, they all thought I knew - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== Cleanup Idea ==

For cleaning this up, would it be helpful if we made it a gallery, like the [[Toons]] page? For this that have no music, we could upload a graphic saying "NO IMAGE AVAILABLE". This is just my idea. I don't see much fodder on this page to get started with, so I'll clean it up if I know what we need. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 17:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:Here's my suggestion:
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Screenshot!! Name !! Description !! External Links
|-
|[[Image:games menu 2001.png|100px]] || '''[[Third Games Menu]]''' || One of the old game menus. || [[HR:games.swf|View the Flash file]]
|}
:I think that would work really well. A re-order would be nice, too. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
::Good idea. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Also, I don't think we should do the same format for the toon previews. It would take up too much space and would just not be worth it. Perhaps we could put links to the previews to all the toons individually instead of taking up the space here. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::True that. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:34, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes, I would argue about those being a secret page, as you can actually see them every time you mouseover a toon. I'd suggest moving them to the external links section of the corresponding toon. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I guess they're not secret pages. Otherwise it could be arguesd that (nearly?) all flash files are Secret Pages, as the only links on the site are the .html pages. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Sounds good to me, a bit of additional external linkage never hurt nobody. Since somebody's already deleted them, I'm gonna go ahead and get the links out of the page archive, and add them to their respective pages. Ooooor, should they go to just the [[Toons]] page? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I'd say both, if possible. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::''Or'' they could have their own page, with descriptions for each one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::A seperate page, I think is a bit excessive. Perhaps both might be the best way to go. Just add an extra column to the tables [[Toons|here]], and then external linkage on all of them. Any objections? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::First table's [[Toons|done]]. Hows that look? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I don't see why they should be added to the toon pages themselves. The three links we currently have (HTML, Flash, and Forum) are links that people actually need. I myself click on them all the time. The link to the Flash file of the Toons menu would be pointless. Since they're a part of the Toons menu, a list of them there would be appropriate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm fine with it on the Toons page. Carry on. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::::::::::What if "preview" was the ''last'' column? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wow The page looks great! If you don't mind I have taken the liberty to remove the cleanup tag. If you feel there's more to do, please say so and feel free to place it there again. Joshua, IRF, et. al., you've done a superb job! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

== Fan Costumes ==
Does someone have a mirror of the fan costumes secret page? The link seems to be down for good... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:[http://web.archive.org/web/20041019030433/http://www.homestarrunner.com/costumes01.html].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::That's not exactly a mirror, and it's only one page... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::The pages were all exactly like that. The image would be shown, and a flash file would play [[Strong Bad]]'s comment. If I remember correctly, the Fash file also contained "next" and "prev" buttons.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I remember it. It was just like the toon except with those buttons and Strong Bad didn't talk. I was just wondering if we had an exact working mirror for new users. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::::The SWF file does not load correctly from the archive. And so it's features cannot be seen. However, it might be possible to get the SWF from the mirror (if they have it) download the HTML and play both together from your hard drive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::It seems the archive did not save the SFW file as I cannot find it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I have the SWF file if you need it. Shoot me an email if you would like me to send it your way. tpaper AT gmail dot com. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 04:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks! I just sent out the email. However, the main reason I asked was to see if there's a way it could be hosted locally on the hrwiki mirror. Though I don't know if we have all the necessary files... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::I sent it to you and to [[User:Tom|Tom]]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 02:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I got the file thanks! It works great! However, there is one um... not so slight problem: it seems that there is a separate swf file for each picture. i.e. costumes02.swf ... costumes11.swf (along with their HTML and jpegs of course). The archive only seems to have the html pages (except maybe 9) and jpegs 1,4, and 7. Do you, by any chance... have everything else? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for bumping, but is it safe to remove it? It's the only page here that never ever worked for me. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

== Two Questions: ==

I have two questions:
#Where did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&oldid=205808#Previews these] go?
#and why do they not appear on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 this diff] which is the last one where they appeared. at.
#These preview SWFs are all valid links if they've simply been removed. However [[User:Invisible_Robot_Fish|IRF]] did point out something important: the links to this page were originally meant to be for stuff that could NOT be linked to or seen from anywhere unless you type in the URL yourself. This page has many links to SWF's and other things that are actually part of many easter eggs or navigation features. If we restrict our criteria to the original intent most of this page would be gone. I think that we should create a separate page that lists all of these files (such as the preview SWF's above) that are visible SWF features in and of themselves ''(I used to think it was "in it of themlseves")'' but do not have their own HTML "frontend". (Or are special in some sense). Such links would indeed have a place in the encyclopedic nature of this wiki.
#As a side note, the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#XML|Stinkoman XML files]] could be [[Stinkoman_20X6_Source_Files|linked to]] from here (and perhaps their XML sources be copied for those who don't know how to see xml sources and are curious).
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:To answer your main question, the toon previews were moved [[Toons|here]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::Where did the holiday and puppet previews go, then? They're not on the list. Also, the list could use some standardising... Some put it in the last column, some put it in the second... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The list is still a work in progress, and is unfinished. The Holiday and Puppet previews still need to be added. Also, at first they were put in the second column, but then it was decided that the last column looks better so they were switched over. So some of them still need to be added, and some need to be switched to the last column. And I really have to get off this wiki and finish my homework. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Homework? What's that!? ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm still curious to know why this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206299&oldid=206289 diff] does not show the removal of the items. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:You want the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=206442&oldid=206299 next diff].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! I see it now! I wish I had checked it earlier. OH! I see the problem now. It still baffled me why the incongruency between the diff and the time the change actually took place. Between [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=prev&oldid=206299 these] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Secret_Pages&diff=next&oldid=206299 two] diffs, the earlier reflect the visual removal in the text but not the diff, whereas the latter finally shows the actualy removal in the code. I had not seen that that section I was looking at had been commented out(like this: <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>) and thought there might be some bug in the diff system. Again, thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== one of these things is not like the others ==

since my correction was already reverted I will take my concerns here:

In my opinions the following items '''do not belong''' as secret pages. They are easter eggs... clickable from normal toons. They are not hidden URLs that you would have to know about like all the others on this page.

*50 cake
*Seriously!
*Virus'd QoD
*Virus'd Fanstuff
*Virus'd Sketchbook
*The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:But to see them ''seperately'', you would have to know some special URL. That's the key, I thinks. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::The place for them is not on this page, its on the individual toon in which they were egged, (which they already are). Eggs just don't belong as secret pages. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::As long as they're in a seperate section from the other things (''Site Components'') I'm fine with them here. Yes, you can see them, but they pages they are on are secret pages. (The content isn't secret, but the page is.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::I see nothing wrong with having a collection or list of these (as I pointed out in the discussion above this one). Joshua and Dorian are right, the URLs they reside on are secret. We ''could'' still differentiate them in the way I deliniated above. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::They ''are already'' differentiated. They have their own category. [[Secret Pages#Site Components]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::I didn't even see the above convesation, they are pretty much the same topic. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:38, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== Site Components ... You can't have it both ways ==

Ok I'm trying to appease those that want some of these site components here on the secret pages, but you can't it both ways.

The following are item that are easily and can be clicked on:
50 cake
Seriously!
Virus'd QoD
Virus'd Fanstuff
Virus'd Sketchbook
The Sweet Cuppin' Cakes buddy icons

I tried to have them removed but was overruled.

Now items that are equally clickable but bring up seperate pages are the items I've just added.

Either allow them all or delete them all. Personally, I think that they all should be removed as non of them are secret. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hi IRF, I looked at the entries that were removed and here's the distinction I could make: the ones that you added had html pages that were linked to the museum and their flash components were linked directly from the HTML page. All of these entries already have their own page and link to the flash file itself like all other toon pages. The links posted in the site components page are different. These are actually ''flash files within flash files'', for which you can't simply open the flash file look at its source and examine the URL of its components. These are special flash files used as components of the main flash files in question. I hope that clears up your questions. (As a side note, and per my suggestions above, these should probably have their own separate page). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

::Both have the same format, a new window pops-up without an address bar from clicking on a flash file. They are both flash within a flash. The only difference is one is moving toon, and the other is a static menu. I still hold that either they all go or they all stay. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
:::It's twue. [/homestar] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::Then they should either all stay or be moved to their own page. Deleting interesting content (that's even been here a while) is not a good practice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: (EDIT CONFLICT'D! Ow, my point!) Actually, that's true only of the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes stuff, which is also the only item I'd seriously consider dropping. "Seriously" is separate from the wallpapers and everything else appears in the same window. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::: Also, I forgot to say: not having an address bar does not stop you from seeing the URL or viewing the source... if you know where to look (try right-clicking outside the 'toon itself.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ok I see what you mean now. I hadn't yet looked at the museum flash file, just the flash linked from the wiki page (ugh habits ... habits). You're absolutely right! They are flash components in the same way as the ones listed currently on site components. More specifically, some are shown as flash-within-flash (like the pom-pom first flash, the story of pom-pom, and the now-listed Seriously! egg), others open a new page (like original games menu, the original characters page, and the "Making out" easter egg in virus). On that standard, yes they should be on that page too! But they are not as secret. Again, I don't think it is useful to ''simply delete'' these components. A better home might be a [[Site Components]] page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::On another note, isle of pom, biz cas fri, tennis, etc all have their own html "cradle pages", the Virus Qod, etc. do ''not'' have such a page. More to the point: like Jay said, having an html cradled page does not preclude you from finding the flash source file, however you do not have that luxury with an in-line flash file without the use of an expensive decompiler. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

== SuperBrave ==

The mirrored links aren't working. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== How did you find those pages? ==

How do you people find all the secret pages on H*R? I really would like to know, so I can find a secret page or two on another website I'm a fan of.

:Yeah, I've always been wondering about that, too. Whoever knows, tell us! Wait, you mean like, the index of files, right? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 01:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

::That's exactly what I mean! Like, an index. if the index isn't normally found on the site, is there some way to access it? I really want to know!

:::please? Some help? I really need this info!

::::It is not possible to do what you ask. These pages were found through old links or by looking through the code of other files. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::And a little luck didn't hurt. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::So... if I know a file exists, but I dont know the URL, can I find it?

:::::: Is this a specific situation? If it is, please give more info. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
::::::: EvilTrailMix.com had two secret mp3's on it, but when they were discovered, the files were renamed. Is there any way to find them again?

:::::::: Try [http://www.archive.org/web/web.php this site]. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 13:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I tried. I can't find anything. So, there's no way to get into the Parent Directory of a website? ...And if there is, how? {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 15:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Retirement? ==

Do you think we should add the links to "retirement A" and "retirement B" mirrors to the list? - [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:I was thinking the same thing. [[User:24.48.189.235|24.48.189.235]] 01:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::They aren't secret pages because they are no longer on the site.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Marshmallow's Last Stand, Jumping Jack Contest - these were once on the site and have been removed, but they are listed. And Where The Crap Are We was never on the site at all. I think the criterion which has been used here (for right or wrong) is whether someone visiting the site would not know these pages exist or existed. That sort of secret. By that definition, the two parts of retirement might qualify. But, the question then is, do we want to use that definition of secret pages or not? And if we don't, what do we use, and do some things on the page have to go as a result? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hmmm, deleted pages aren't really secret. I would interpret "secret" like "it's here, but you can only see it if you know where to look". Deleted toons have more of a "meh, we got rid of it"-style flavour.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::MLA and JJC as well as Where the Crap are listed on [[Toons#Special Cartoons|Toons]] under "Not On The Site". So If they are not on the site, they are not secret pages, as secret pages can be revealed. We only have them because they are mirrored on our server. So I think they should be removed. As for retirement A & B, they should be noted similarly on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. Maybe make a sub header for "Not On The Site" and list them with the DVD emails. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

::::::I think it may be time to add another section to this page to cover RA, RB, JJC, MLS, etc. Or create a page for "removed toons" or something of the ilk. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 13:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's fine to have all not-normally-accessed toons conveniently here on one page. This is where people would first look for these things. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Infact, yeah. I can see this "removed toons" section. but they should also be noted on the SBE page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking about putting in either under "Removed From the Site" or "Alternate Versions of Toons." --[[User:Young Roy|Y. Roy]] 15:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Alternate Versions of Toons" works for me. It's technically what it is. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
::I put it up and it's still there, but does anyone fear I opened a floodgate that might lead to the original, removed versions of caffiene and Potion-ma-jig appearing there? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::If you guys want them back the best thing to do would be to divide "Alternate Versions of Toons" into two sections stating somehow whether or not they are still on the site. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

== Stuff ==

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/stuff1.html Stuff] just a suggestion.
:This is an old version of the [[Fan Stuff]] from the Museum. Although, yes, technically it is a secret page now... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Premium Spoof ==

I was looking for the Premium version of Homestar Runner page on here, which my roommate found once on accident, but I don't remember what the URL is. Has anyone else seen this? It's a "tour" of all the great benifits of what you get when you sign up to pay for the "full" version of H*R. At the end it asked for a credit card number, if I remember correctly.
:That sounds like [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. Not actually a secret page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Fan Costumes - broken link ==

In '''Fan Costumes''' row, the links are all broken now. I'm not sure what the appropriate change in linkage should be. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== Poop Smoke ==

Why is it Poop Smoke and not Poot Smoke? its Poot-Slap, not Poop-Slap. Do TBC name it somewhere even tho the song is apparently "secret"? --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 23:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, they did. Have a look at the actual download link.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Kick The Cheat game ==

Why doesn't the Kick The Cheat game count as a secret page? And can I delete the Processing Room since it can be found in that Easter Egg from website? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Flash Store ==

Since no one replied to my last message, I'll try to broaden it here. Why isn't the flash store a secret page? And why must Email Processing Room count if it can be accessed via [[website]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

== Desktop Themes ==

Does anyone know what file those need to be saved to? I've tried all the different locations I can think of, and finally just had to settle for installing each icon and sound individually.

-a mouse

== Homestar's Yearbook ==

Let me start off by saying that I know that this is complete speculation that may not deserve to be part of the article. Does it seem likely that Homestar's Yearbook was meant to be an alternate heading for Strong Bad's Message Bored? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

== Spin 'n' Say? ==

Should we add the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/spinandsay2.html original version of Spin 'n' Say?]
-[[User:Cool Tapes.exe|Cool Tapes.exe]]
:It's visible if you push "edit," but everyone else says it should not be visible until everything is worked out between Harmless Junk/TBC and Mattel. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

yah, thats because an image of spin and say isn't updated on the site. i don't know how, but if u do, please update it. [[User:slipknot6477|slipknot6477 out.]]
:Please don't. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
why {{unsigned|Slipknot6477|13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)}}
:The Brothers Chaps said they didn't want it mentioned, so we should just not mention it at the moment. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 13:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::If anyone (possibly a sysop) can explain this better, as much as allowed to say, that would be good. I'm confused about this also. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 13:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
:::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AWho_Said_What_Now%3F&diff=461958&oldid=461925 Here] is a post by [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] that fits pretty much any discussion regarding Who Said What Now?. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

== Secret Pages Pages ==

I tried making a page for Matt Cake, but I can't seem to get enough info for any of these. I think it would be a good idea to make a page for each category and have each toon as a headline. Any thoughts? {{User:DNA Evidence/sig}}

:I don't see how that (seven secret pages articles) would be any better than the current single article that collectively addresses all of the secret pages quite well. Do note however that [[#Secret Pages with their own pages|there are some individual items]] that have separate articles that do just fine. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

== Divide Toons from Shorts. ==

Hi. I've noticed that some of the Toons are short enough to be Shorts, and some others could be Holiday toons as well. Should we divide them into more sespific categories?

:'Sup. First off, are we talking about [[Secret_Pages#Toons|these toons]]? Because if so, these are all [[Toons]], which include shorts, holiday toons, etc. We only mark toons holiday or shorts if homestarrunner.com. And since they don't categorize these, we just leave them an uncategorized, generic brand (TM) toons. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

== Please? I'm makin' a toon. ==

Could someone please make the songs available for download, please?
I'm making a Homestar Runner fan cartoon and I need some sounds. {{unsigned|Pointy King|22:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)}}

:Some links are on the [[Songs]] page, but we currently have no codified list of all downloadable songs as far as I know. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Say huh?! I coun't really understand whatchu said.

== Blank Pages ==

I was just wondering if these pages were known about.

http://homestarrunner.com/halloween2.html

http://homestarrunner.com/radish3.html

== Homestar Runner Glossy ==

I went by the naming convention in ppglossy and sbglossy, and discovered hsglossy. Or so I thought. :) I just did a Google search, and someone had already found it before. But I didn't see it in the wiki, so I added it. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 00:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:Good find! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

==Looooong page==
Why don't we split this article into separate pages? Secret Pages would then present the user with the option to view specific groups of items without having to load the ''entire list'' of every secret page. If I haven't gotten my point across, Secret Pages could link to, say, [[Secret Toons]], [[Secret Games]], [[Secret Old Navigation]], [[Secret Other Animations]], [[Secret Downloads]], [[Secret Music]], [[Secret Images]]. Yes, no? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:Personally, I don't think this page is that long. But for the sake of editing it, that is a good idea. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
::I would be fine with keeping it together or splitting it up. The page is long, but it's not ''unbelievably'' long. I don't think that ease of editing has any bearing on whether the page should be split, since you can always click on the section edit links to effect the same thing. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
:::You're right, it's not loooooooong, it's just looooong. But it's an ugly page. Lots of tables that don't line up, and by scrolling it's easy to miss where one section ends and a new one begins. I know [[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] was ready to make this change "immediately" (see [[Talk:Matt Cake]]), so I'll let him know he can do the honors since there appear to be no complaints about splitting the page up. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::::That's not what he said, and there's no consensus yet. Hold off. I personally think the page should stay as it is. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::What's not what who said? And anyway, make your case; where's your rebuttal? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::What dot com said, and to have them all in one place makes sense, as they're the same thing. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I'll try to exercise patience, now that we actually have someone against the idea. I say "split it", Super Martyo Brother says "good idea", Sysrq868 says "I like the idea" ([[Talk:Matt Cake]]), It's dot com says he's "fine with [either]". So, yeah, you're the first one to say it "should stay as it is". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::DeFender1031: "They're the same thing" isn't really an excuse. We could merge all Strong Bad Emails, they're the same thing, right? And I'm not saying that it '''must''' be done, as this conversation started from the deletion discussion of [[Matt Cake]]. If we make each section their seperate page, we could fit the contents of the pages per secret item to those pages (although long lists are bad, a big bunch of micro-pages is even worse). If we keep this list on one page, we should also keep ''all'' the pages of the secret items. So: split and delete or leave everything as is, that's my opinion. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 18:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Split and delete the micro pages, yes. There aren't too many micro pages stemming from these secret pages, though. And that's not the reason I want it split. Appearance and usability are my biggest issues with it, it's ugly, it's long and I get lost scrolling through it. Anyway, I say a picture paints a thousand words. Why don't we create a point of comparison? In user space, create the separate pages. Then see what people think..? Can we do that? And Sysrq868, do you want to be the one to do that? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::That'd be my, like, first ever ''meaningful'' thing I've ever done on this wiki. If you really want to give me that honor, I'll go create a bunch of subpages under my username right away! --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 19:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Can't wait to see it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well, here's a prototype: [[User:Sysrq868/Secret Pages]]. "Other Animations" is quite like what I had in mind. And also, the guiding page is to be polished. Any ideas, comments, suggestions? --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 20:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
After more reflection, I ''lean'' toward keeping it all one page. Far from being too long, I think the page is actually easier to browse in one piece. Like all pages of some length, it has a table of contents that makes jumping to a specific section simple. I'm beginning to think splitting it would just require more clicking and less ease of viewing. Regardless of what happens, none of the pages linked from this page should be merged into a table; they should remain linked individual pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:On the first point, I agree. This page is better all together, as the table of contents makes for easy navigation and allows all the related content to appear on one page (and it isn't really ''that'' long, I think). No opinion as yet about any merges. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
::And when I say "none", I mean ''almost'' none. Most of the pages are too long to fit in a table, but there are one or two whose individual pages are nothing but a rehash of what's already in the on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm in favor of seperate pages. My computer is very old, and it takes a long time to load this one. (This and the characters page). I don't think it would be too hard to navigate through them. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

== Decemberween SBEMail Menu ==

The Decemberween SBEMail Menu resets itself after a while, removing the snow and the pop-up postcard. There's also a slight gap in the audio when it does it.

== Can You Guesstimate Where This Belongs? ==

Should [[Jibblies 2 Teaser]] go under "Toons" or "Other Animations"? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

==Easter Egg Pages==

We should create a section of pages that are easter eggs. -Get Dagger

== Fan costumes embedded in Homsar Main Page ==

Does that do anything to have [[Fan Costume Commentary]] embedded into the source of the [[Homsar Main Page]]? I can't see anything that it could do. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 03:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

==Store old page==
I went on kitorp.com and found [http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/stickers.html this.] Where should I put it? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}

== WANTED!!! ==

What happened to the Wanted Poster of [[Strong Bad]] before [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]? Is it on another page?
:It's on the page [[Site Components]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Taryn Game ==

I seriously think the Taryn game needs an article! I mean, think of all da other secret pages that have articles... [[User:72.251.14.12|72.251.14.12]] 01:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC) EDIT: Also, should we mention it on the [[Death]] page too? 'Cause Taryn's picture breaks, which is similar to the Strong Bad egg from [[Eggs (toon)]], so if one of those is considered death, both of them should.

== kitkorp ==

this is kinda a mueseum i found when i googled marshmallow's last stand. i took off marshmallow2.html off the end of the webpage and got it [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/]
:This isn't a secret page, merely someone who mirrored the site a long time ago. Might be worth putting on [[website sightings]] though {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== strongbad default ==

im just wondering what the strong default page is and why it exists. [[Special:Contributions/75.58.18.125|75.58.18.125]] 19:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== Not the 200th E-mail! ==

If you go to http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail200.html, there is a short toon featuring the Deleteheads, much like 'Not the 100th E-mail'.
:Well, we do [[Page Load Error|already have a page on it]], but it should certainly be listed here, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== where is everything ==

where did everything below alternate versions of toons go --dr savage but im to lazy to [[Sbemail 169|log on/in]] (and could someone tell me what the difference is.)
:Javaguy removed it for some reason. I'll fix it. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 00:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::Done. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 00:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Secret Pages

Bellstrom — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:08:06 GMT

Bellstrom: Fixed.

A '''secret page''' is a page from [[homestarrunner.com]] that is either not linked to from anywhere or has been removed from the site altogether.

'''Note that sometimes some of the pages don't work. Just try again at a later date.'''

== Toons ==

These are [[Toons]] or toon-like animations that are not advertised from the site. Some of them are incomplete.

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Screenshot!! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Toons removed from the website
|-
| [[Image:mm ls.png|100px]] || '''[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]''' || [[Strong Bad]] and [[Strong Mad]] steal the star from [[Homestar Runner]]'s shirt in order to force Homestar and [[Pom Pom]] to participate in a tag team wrestling match. This cartoon, which is the first ever full-length Homestar Runner toon made, now has been removed from the site for unknown reasons. It is included in [[Everything Else, Volume 2]].|| [[Mirror:marshmallow2.html|Watch the toon]] (mirror) [[Mirror:marshmallow2.swf|View the Flash file]] (mirror)
|-
| [[Image:jumpingjackcontest.png|100px]] || '''[[A Jumping Jack Contest]]''' || Strong Bad, [[Strong Sad]], Homestar Runner, Pom Pom, and [[Bubs]] enter a jumping jack contest. The person who continually jumps jacks for the longest wins. Strong Bad cheats, of course. Based loosely on the Homestar Runner book, it has since been taken off the site for unknown reasons. [[Strong Libs]] are available for play during the loading time. It is included in [[Everything Else, Volume 2]]. || [[Mirror:jumpinjacks2.html|Watch the toon]] (mirror) [[Mirror:jumpinjacks2.swf|View the Flash file]] (mirror)
|-
| [[Image:If I Ran the Camera.PNG|100px]] || '''[[If I Ran the Camera]]''' || A poem written by [[Karen Wagner]] as a father's day present to [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman (Grandpa)]]. It was on the site for a short period of time but soon taken down once [[The Brothers Chaps]] realized that fans had found it. It features a [[little girl]] named Astrid Renee and [[Don and Harriet Chapman|Grandpa Chapman]]. || [[Mirror:ifiranthecamera.html|Watch the toon]] (mirror) [[Mirror:ifiranthecamera.swf|View the Flash file]] (mirror)
|-
| [[Image:Superbrave.jpg|100px]] || '''[[Super Brave!!]]''' || A [[homestarrunner.com]] update for February 21, 2003. It featured a class full of kids who had each drawn a picture of Homestar Runner. You could move the mouse over the kids and see Homestar-esque drawings of each of them that were eventually used for characters appearing during the karaoke songs on strongbad_email.exe DVD #3. On February 24, the update was renamed to "these kids rule". || [[Mirror:superbrave.swf|View the Flash file]] (Mirror) [[Mirror:thesekidsrule.swf|View the Flash file]] (Mirror)
|-
| [[Image:limozeenecard.jpg|100px]] ||'''[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]''' || [[Limozeen]] Thanksgiving E-Cards were made available for Thanksgiving 2003. Three messages from the members of Limozeen are provided. The recipient of the E-Card would be sent an email with the URL of the card that was prepared for them. Although the feature itself has been removed from the site, going to the URL will show the loading screen. The font used for "Loading..." is modeled after the [[Wikipedia:Iron Maiden (band)|Iron Maiden]] logo. It is a bonus feature on [[Everything Else Volume 3]]. ||[[HR:zeen_ecard.swf|View the Flash file]] (loading screen only) [http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/zeen.html Watch the toon] (mirror) [http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/zeen_ecard_loader.swf View the Flash file] (mirror)
|-
| [[Image:twinkie.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Where the Crap Are We?]]''' || This toon wasn't ever on the site. It's an animation with Homestar and Strong Bad found in an [[Easter eggs|Easter egg]] at [http://www.macromedia.com/software/central/ Macromedia Central]. It was also available in a hidden 'toon on the [[Everything Else, Volume 1]] DVD. || [[Mirror:egg.html|Watch the toon]] (mirror) [[Mirror:egg.swf|View the Flash file]] (mirror)
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Secret toons still on the website
|-
| [[Image:Happy T.png|100px]] || '''[[Happy T!]]''' || A sign which says "Happy T!" The letters, when clicked on, have voiceovers of the main characters saying things relating to the title. It features an Easter egg with Homsar, accessed by clicking on a small spot on the lower right hand corner of the screen. || [[HR:happyt.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Hremail49.png|100px]] || '''[[email thunder#Easter_Eggs|HREmail49]]''' || An "email" referenced by Homestar in [[email thunder]] || [[HR:hremail49.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:hremail49.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Hremail24.png|100px]] || '''[[email thunder#Easter_Eggs|HREmail24]]''' || An email mentioned by Homestar in hremail49 || [[HR:hremail24.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:hremail24.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:sbemail100.png|100px]] || '''[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]''' || This toon was purposefully never linked to at any time. This secret page was designed to be discovered by people trying to find the [[flashback|100th]] [[Strong Bad Email]] before it was released. This occurs by typing www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail100.html instead of www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailahundred.html || [[HR:sbemail100.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:100th_email.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Page Load Error.png|100px]] || '''[[Page Load Error]]''' || Similar to the above example, typing in www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail200.html links here. || [[HR:sbemail200.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:sbemail200.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Missing Lappy.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Lappynapped!]]''' || This toon was released between [[cliffhangers]] and [[retirement]] as part of the [[Lappy 486#Lappy-napping|Lappy-napping saga]], but it was never listed on the Toons menu. It was only available through the [[Main Page Messages|"What's New" bubble]]. || [[HR:lappynapped.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:lappynapped.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:TruckaSideways.png|100px]] || '''[[Field Day Intro]]''' || This toon was released onto the site but was never listed. It is an Easter egg on [[Everything Else Volume 3]]. It was only available through the URL "fieldday.html". || [[HR:fieldday.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:fieldday.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Grape Soda Banked.png|100px]] || '''[[Non-Sequitur Champion]]''' || This toon was released to the [[Store]] on February 29, 2008 to celebrate [[Senor Cardgage]] losing the competition for the most non-sequitur character. The toon was removed when the shirts page was redesigned on May 22, 2008. || [[Videlectrix:storeflash/nonsequitur.swf|View the Flash file]]
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Unfinished toons
|-
| [[Image:strongbadwithnomouthfromthesingalong.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Sing Along]]''' || An unfinished sing-along with [[Homestar Runner]] and [[Strong Bad]]. || [[HR:singalong.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Needlepoint.png|100px]] || '''[[Needlepoint]]''' || A seemingly unfinished small cartoon of Homestar and Strong Bad on a sewn picture, possibly a reference to the one scene in [[property of ones]]. Its picture features Strong Bad standing in [[The Field]]. Homestar Runner walks up in the right, stops next to Strong Bad and opens his mouth, possibly saying "'sup." The text "Get Rid of a Few Things!" appears below. A similar scene briefly appears in [[From the Vault]]. || [[HR:needlepoint.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:needlepoint.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Easter egg toon.png|100px]] || '''[[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]]''' || Once linked through a [[main page message]] reading "[[from work|email]] soon," this unfinished special features Easter [[Eggs]] designed after Homestar, Marzipan, Pom Pom, and Strong Bad. || [[HR:eggs.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:eggs.swf|View the Flash file]]
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Alternate versions of toons
|-
| [[Image:Secret Answering Machine.PNG|100px]] || '''Marzipan's Answering Machine''' || This is just [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]], possibly before more versions were planned. It has a few minor differences from the current version. The font is a little different for both the number and the back link, it doesn't have the archive menu, and the Back button links to the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games Menu]]. || [[HR:answer.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:answer.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| || '''[[The King of Town DVD Commentary#Secret Commentary|The King of Town DVD Secret Commentary]]''' || This is a secret version of [[The King of Town DVD Commentary|Strong Bad's Commentary]] for the [[The King of Town DVD]] without any visuals. It is identical to the normal version except for the end, where it explains why Strong Bad did the commentary. || [[HR:sb_kingcomment.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Yellodellowdeleted.png|100px]] || '''[[In Search of the Yello Dello Deleted Scenes#Secret Deleted Scene|Secret Yello Dello Deleted Scene]]''' || This is the scene from the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] DVD where Strong Bad is talking with Marzipan, but it has a strange commentary at the beginning. || [[HR:dellocut_2.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:dellocut_2.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:sbemail46.PNG|100px]] || '''Old "[[your friends]]"''' || This is an alternate version of the email [[your friends]]. Differences: Strong Bad's mouth isn't visible in the reflection when he sings the email intro. The announcer on the TV [[Strong Mad]] is watching doesn't say "Some type of TV show." The background music stops at [[Strong Sad]]'s scene. Some extra buzz saw blades and a bottle of hot sauce behind Strong Bad are gone in [[Marzipan]]'s scene. The Cheat doesn't yell at Strong Bad, and Pom Pom does one less turn. Strong Bad isn't holding a bottle of hot sauce in [[Homsar]]'s scene. At the end, Strong Bad says the word "fans" a little differently.
|| [[HR:sbemail46.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Unfinished Interview.PNG|100px]] || '''Metro.pop Interview''' || An unfinished version of the short [[The Interview]]. Among other differences between it and the final, Strong Bad and Homestar talk without moving their mouths in the second half, Homestar doesn't take out his shopping list or his pen and notebook, and Strong Bad's last line is "Thank you for your time" as opposed to "Get out of my face". || [[HR:interview2.html|Watch the toon]] [[HR:interview2.swf|View the Flash file]]
|}

== Games ==


{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Screenshot!! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old games removed from the games menu.
|-
| [[Image:Litebrite3.PNG|100px]] || '''Lite Brite''' || An older version of the [[Astro-Lite 2600]]. It used to be accessible from the [[Museum]], but it was updated when moved to the [[Handheld Games Menu]] || [[HR:litebrite3.html|Play the game]] [[HR:litebrite3.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Kickinggame.png|100px|Taryn getting kicked]] || '''Taryn Game''' || A [[Powered by The Cheat|Powered-by-The-Cheat-style]] kicking game where you kick a picture repeatedly. It takes 47 kicks to break. The picture is of a girl, [http://aces.tabulas.com/tarebear/5134_35f71.jpg Taryn], from [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]], who finally posted a picture of herself after many people begged her to. || [[HR:taryngame.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:kickthecheat.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Kick The Cheat]]''' || Created to promote the Kick The Cheat doll, this game uses Flash LSOs to keep track of how many times the player can [[Kicking The Cheat|kick The Cheat]] into the brick wall. || [[HR:kickcheat.html|Play the game]] [[HR:kickcheat09.swf|View the Flash file]]
|}

== Old Navigation ==

Various old menus for Toons, Games and the like that are no longer actively used on the site.

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Screenshot!! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old Toons Menus
|-
| || '''[[Oldest Toons Menu]]''' || A very old toons menu, possibly even older than the Lava Lamp menu. || [[HR:toonsold.html|View the menu]]
|-
| [[Image:lavalamptoons.png|100px]] || '''[[Lava Lamp Toons Menu]]''' || An old toons menu with a lava lamp as a back button. The remote was used in the museum, but with only [[Single-button remote control|1 button.]] || [[HR:toonsold.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Newer Telebision Toons Menu.png|100px]] || '''[[Telebision Toons Menu]]''' || An old [[Toons]] menu, see its page for details. An earlier version exists without sound, a ''back'' button, descriptions and [[A Jumping Jack Contest]]. It can be noted that on the old version, both option 6 and option 1 are "[[The Reddest Radish]]"|| [[HR:newtoons.html|View the menu]] [[HR:newtoons2.swf|View the Flash file]] [[HR:newtoons.swf|View the Flash file of the earlier version]]
|-
| [[Image:Chinese Food Toons Menu.png|100px]] || '''[[Chinese Food Toons Menu]]''' || An old [[Toons]] menu, possibly related to the [[Fortune Cookies|fortune cookies game]]. || [[HR:chinesefood.html|View the menu]] [[HR:chinesefood.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Old Remote Toons Menu.PNG|100px]] || '''Old Remote [[TV Time Toons Menu]]''' || The [[TV Time Toons Menu]] before the remote was updated to have [[Puppet Stuff]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]], which were combined into Shorts at the time. It also had Features instead of individual buttons for [[Strong Bad Email]], [[Teen Girl Squad]] and [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]. Instead of a scrollbar, the longer lists had flaps and two separate pages that you could move back and forth on. The newest cartoon was [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. || [[Mirror:20040622_Old_Remote_Toons_Menu.html|View the menu]] (mirror)
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old Games Menus
|-
| [[Image:games menu 2001.png|100px]] || '''[[Third Games Menu]]''' || One of the old game menus, this one features a board game theme. Note the links to Strong Bad Email and Marzipan's Answering Machine. || [[HR:games.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| || '''Old games page''' || An old games page. This text is contained in the page source: <blockquote>''Homestar Talker d a n c i b u s Fortune Cookies marzipan's answering machine hairstyle runner Strong Libs''. </blockquote> Also, stronglibs.html seems to be misspelled as stonglibs.html in another part of the source. It was most likely the Third Games Menu listed above. || [[HR:games3.html|View the menu]]
|-
| [[Image:originalhandheldmenu.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Handheld Games Menu#Original Handheld Games Menu|Original Handheld Games Menu]]''' || The original version of the [[Handheld Games Menu]], it was upgraded when the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] was released. || [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/games-preshooter.html View the menu] (mirror) [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/games-preshooter.swf View the Flash file] (mirror)
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old Strong Bad Email Menus
|-
|[[Image:tandy paper menu.png|100px]] || '''[[Broken Tandy Menu]]''' || An old [[Strong Bad Email]] menu that only goes up to [[gimmicks]]. It was used as a replacement for the [[Tandy 400]] when it exploded. || [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_paper.html View the menu] (mirror) [[HR:sbemailx.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
|[[Image:Vacation SBEmail Menu.PNG|100px]] || '''Strong Bad Email Vacation Menu''' || An old [[Strong Bad Email]] menu that was presumably used during the email [[vacation]]. Click on the post-it note to hear it say "Hey!" then "Dorks!" then "Get offa me!" and finally "You stink!" This is one of the pages that uses the pop up menu. || [[HR:sbemail(vacation).swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:decemberween emails.png|100px]] || '''[[Decemberween Email Menu]]''' || This was the "no new email notice" used during the holidays in 2002. Since it does not include any actual links to the emails made before that point, they most likely turned into Secret Pages while this menu was displayed. || [[HR:sbemailxmas.html|Visit the menu]] [[HR:sbemailxmas.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Virusemailmanu.PNG|100px]] || '''Old [[Strong Bad Email]] Selection''' || The email selection before the email [[virus]]. || [[HR:sbemail.swf|View Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:Shotgunned menu.png|100px]] || '''[[Broken Compy Menu]]''' || The email selection page that appeared between [[virus]] and [[animal]]. The version still on the site lacks the bonus toon it featured when in use. || [[HR:sbemail_shotgunned.swf|View the official Flash file]] [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_shotgunned.html View the page with toon included] (mirror) [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_shotgunned.swf View the Flash file with toon included] (mirror)
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old Main Pages
|-
| [[Image:Main6x.PNG|100px]] || '''Old [[Main Page 6]]''' || This is an unfinished main page from 2000. The "new cartoon!" link goes to [[A Jorb Well Done]], the "another homepage" goes to [[Main Page 10]], the "more messages" link goes to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]], and the "new toons menu" link goes to the current toons menu. Also, the buttons on the left don't work correctly. Also note that email is above downloads, instead of below store. The only button with a special effect is "Email", which is the same as the normal main page 6 (except that Strong Bad's mouth doesn't open in surprise). Also, Homestar's mouth will move when the downloads or store buttons are moused over, but he won't say anything. Only downloads & the museum (H*R Button) actually work. The other buttons won't do anything. || [[HR:main6x.swf|View the Flash file]]
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old Character Pages
|-
| [[Image:sbcharcards.png|100px]] || '''[[Character Cards]]''' || This is a small Flash file which contains an old-style picture of each main character on the H*R Website, except for [[The Poopsmith]] and [[Homsar]], who weren't main characters at the time. It also shows two characters, [[Rejected Characters#Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] and [[Rejected Characters#The Unguraits|The Unguraits]], who were later rejected. || [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/cards.swf View the Flash file] (mirror)
|-
| [[Image:Yearbook page.png|100px]] || '''[[Yearbook Character Page]]''' || An old characters page, created circa [[The Luau]]. [[Homsar]] is not included in the lineup because he was not considered a main character back then. || [[HR:yearbook.html|View the menu]] [[HR:yearbook.swf|View the Flash file]]
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old Store Menu
|-
| [[Image:store screenshot.png|100px]] || '''[[Flash Store]]''' || A Flash-based store that was replaced by the current [[Store]] around 2005. It includes links to the [[strongbad_email.exe DVD Promo]], which does not appear to be linked to anywhere else either. || [[HR:store_new04.swf|View the Flash file]]
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC id="Old Intros"
! colspan=4 | Old Intros
|-
| [[Image:intro.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Intro]] Duplicate''' || A duplicate of the current [[Intro]], though it is 2 bytes larger in filesize. The reason for the slight difference in filesize is unknown. || [[HR:newintro2.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:ev ev.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Intro 2]]''' || Despite the name, this intro is actually the third intro, made between the [[Old Intro 2|second]] and [[Intro|fourth intros]]. || [[HR:intro2.html|Watch "Intro 2"]] [[HR:intro2.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:ween intro screenshot.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Ween Intro]]''' || The intro that is displayed on Halloween. It always takes links to [[Main Page 7|Main Page 7 "Dead as a Doornail"]]. || [[HR:weenintro.swf|View the Flash file for "Ween Intro"]]
|-
| [[Image:flagintro.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Flag Intro]]''' || An intro featuring Homestar and an American flag, possibly intended for use on Independence Day. When the toon completes, [[Main Page 12]], the Fourth of July main page, is displayed. || [[HR:flagintro.swf|View the Flash file for "Flag Intro"]]
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old Loading Screens
|-id="Old H*R Loading Screen"
|[[Image:Old HR Loading Screen.PNG|100px]] || '''Old H*R Loading Screen''' || An old loading screen featuring some of [[Homestar Runner]]'s outline and then the text ''H*R''. A parody of the opening to "[[Alfred Hitchcock]] Presents".|| [[HR:hstarr.swf|View the Flash file]]
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Old 404 Page
|-
| <center>[[Image:Strong Bad Error.png|100px]]</center> || '''[[Strong Bad 404 Error Page]]''' || The error page that was used before [[404'd]]. If the mailbox is looked at closely before the letters appear on the [[Email]] page, [[HR:sberror.jpg|the stylized Strong Bad face]] from the old error page can be seen. || [[HR:errorpage.html|view the error page]]
|}

== Other Animations ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Screenshot!! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Other Animations
|-id="Matt_Cake"
| [[Image:Mattcake.png|100px|Mattcake]] || '''Matt Cake''' || A [[:Image:MattChapmanwithlittlegirl.jpg|photo]] of [[Matt Chapman]] holding [[Little Girl|his niece]], that he edited to look like a cake for his sister (and the niece's mother) [[Karen Wagner]]'s birthday. The link to Matt Cake originally appeared on [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]]. Click on the cherry farthest to the left to see a picture of [[Wikipedia:Dennis Franz|Dennis Franz]] overlapping Matt's face. The cake appears to say "PATZ" on it. || [[HR:mattcake.swf|View the Flash file for Matt Cake]]
|-
| [[Image:Tirecake.png|100px|Tirecake and snake]] || '''Tire Cake''' || A tire with candles. Click on the one fourth from the top (to the right) to see the snake from the [[Strong Badia]] flag. || [[HR:tirecake.swf|View the Flash file for Tire Cake]]
|-
| [[Image:Awesomerthanyou.png|100px|I am awesomer than you]] || '''SB Sign''' || A strange [[Strong Bad]] sign with [[Atari Strong Bad]] waving his hands next to the text "i am awesomer than you" || [[HR:sbsign.swf|View the Flash file for SB Sign]]
|-
| [[Image:NoFlash.PNG|100px]] || '''Old No Flash Page''' || An old error page saying that Flash needs to be downloaded. || [[HR:noflash.html|No Flash]]
|-
| [[Image:HomestarCostumes.PNG|100px]] || '''Alternate Halloween Costumes''' || Costumes for [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], except that Coach Z is dressed as a [[Wikipedia:Noid|Noid]], Pom Pom is the Skipper from [[Wikipedia:Gilligan's Island|Gilligan's Island]], and Marzipan is [[Wikipedia:Velma Dinkley|Velma Dinkley]]. Also, The Cheat is wearing a different shirt than in the final version, and The King of Town is missing his mustache. The only movement is a light on The Poopsmith's costume. || [[HR:halloween01.swf|View the Flash file for Alternate Halloween Costumes]]
|-
| [[Image:Halloween Costumes 2.PNG|100px]] || '''Alternate Halloween Costumes 2''' || Similar to the above, but this time Coach Z and Pom Pom are wearing their final costumes, though Pom Pom is missing the "I love Flint" button. Marzipan is still dressed as Velma however, and The Cheat and The King of Town still have the same mistakes as before. Also, the background is red, and Coach Z has moved from behind Strong Sad to in front of him. || [[HR:halloween01x.swf|View the Flash file for Alternate Halloween Costumes 2]]
|-
| [[Image:Homestar's yearbook.PNG|100px]] || '''Homestar's Yearbook''' || The logo for the site's old guestbook page. Scroll over Homestar to hear him say "Sign my yearbook! ... but don't use any [[swears]], because my [[Parents|mom]] reads it." || [[HR:guestyear.swf|View the Flash file for Homestar's Yearbook]]
|-
| [[Image:Halloween 2007 teaser.png|100px]] || '''[[Jibblies 2 Teaser]]''' || Silhouettes of everybody in the [[Jibblies 2 Costumes|costumes]] they wore the following week in [[Jibblies 2]]. Note that a [[Wikipedia:Xenomorph (Alien)|Xenomorph]] is in Strong Bad's place. || [[HR:ween07_teaser.html|Watch "Jibblies 2 Teaser"]] [[HR:ween07_teaser.swf|View the Flash file for "Jibblies 2 Teaser"]]
|-
| [[Image:Trogdor_Intro.png|100px]] || '''Trogdor Index Page''' || For the week of Trogday 2008 this was the index page for the website. || [[HR:fivedor.swf|View the Flash file for the Trogdor Index Page]]
|-
| [[Image:limolive.png|100px]] || '''Limozeen Live Advertisement''' || An ad for a 2008 [[Limozeen]] concert. Also links to [[Limozeen Live!]] || [[HR:limolive.html|View the ad]] [[HR:limolive.swf|View the Flash file for the ad]]
|}

== Downloads ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Screenshot!! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|- bgcolor=#CCCCCC
! colspan=4 | Downloads
|-
| [[Image:Stencils.PNG|100px]] || '''Stencils''' || [[Printable]] stencils to use on pumpkins. Replaced by [[Punkin Stencils]]. || [[HR:stencils.swf|View the Flash file]]
|-
| [[Image:pumpkinstencils.png|100px]] || '''[[Punkin Stencils]]''' || These are the later version of the pumpkin stencils above. They are shown on the main pages each year as one of the updates. There is no other link to them from the site. || [[HR:ween_stencils.html|View the Punkin Stencils]] [[HR:ween_stencils_06b.swf|View the Flash file]] [[Mirror:20041014_ween_stencils.html|View 2004's Stencils]] (mirror) [[HR:ween_stencils.swf|View 2005's Stencils]]
|-
| [[Image:Wow.PNG|100px]] || '''Wallpaper o' the Week''' || Possibly an old feature, meant for the weekly updates section. The link is embedded in the source of the [[Homestar Talker]]. || [[HR:wow.html|View the page]]
|-
| [[Image:Sbtheme.png|100px|Strong Bad theme]] || '''SB Theme''' || A desktop theme for Strong Bad. || [[HR:sbtheme.ZIP|Download the SB Theme]]
|-
| <center>[[Image:Tagtag.PNG|50px]]</center> || '''[[Wireless Bizness]]''' || A page that appears to be intended for mobile phones supporting [[Wikipedia:Wireless Application Protocol|WAP]]. Has some Strong Bad Emails, but no longer works. || [[HR:wireless.html|View Wireless Bizness]]
|-
| [[Image:Hstartheme.png|100px|Homestar Runner Desktop Theme]] || '''[[Homestar Runner Desktop Theme]]''' || A Homestar Runner desktop theme for Windows 98. || [[HR:hstheme.html|View the download page for Homestar Runner Desktop Theme]] [[HR:hstheme.ZIP|Download the Homestar Runner Desktop Theme]]
|-
| [[Image:98theme.png|100px|Additional Theme]] || '''Windows 98 H*R Theme''' || A Homestar Runner desktop theme for Windows 98. This one is broken, and only downloads the theme song. || [[HR:theme.swf|View the Flash file for Windows 98 H*R Theme]] [[HR:theme.ZIP|Download the Windows 98 H*R Theme]]
|-
| [[Image:Homestar Runner Face Screen Saver.png|100px]] || '''[[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad Screensaver]]''' || These screensavers can also be obtained by downloading the themes. || [[HR:macss.html|Download the Screen Saver]]
|-id="smposse"
| [[Image:SMPosse.PNG|100px]] || '''Strong Mad Stickers''' || Print out Strong Mad Stickers! The design is based on the [[Wikipedia:André the Giant Has a Posse|André the Giant Has a Posse]] sticker design. || [[HR:smsticker.html|Strong Mad Stickers]] [[HR:smstickers.ZIP|Download the ZIP File]]
|-
| [[Image:downloadpage.PNG|100px]] || '''[[Downloads|Downloads Menu]]''' || Simply a different name for the downloads menu and the screen is smaller. || [[HR:downloads.html|Downloads Menu]]
|-
| [[Image:Wallpapers.png|100px]] || '''Wallpapers''' || An old wallpaper download page. || [[HR:wallpapers.html|Wallpapers]]
|-
| [[Image:AimIcons.PNG|100px]] || '''MORE TO COME!''' || The page with the AIM buddy icons on it. || [[HR:aim.html|MORE TO COME!]]
|-
| [[Image:Hspapercraft.png|100px]] || '''Papercraft Homestar''' || A printable folding template for a paper Homestar Runner made by [[User:20eric06|Eric]], originally found by clicking on [[Weekly Fanstuff 2007#WF-2007-10-25|papercraft homestar]] when it was on the site as the [[Weekly Fanstuff]]. When the Weekly Fanstuff was changed, this image was no longer linked to. ||[[HR:hspapercraft.png|View template]]
|-
| [[Image:Support the municipality desktop.PNG|100px]] || '''Support [[the Municipality]] Wallpaper''' || Two sizes of this wallpaper were available to download through the [[Main Pages]] on March 16, 2006. || [[HR:wallpapers/municipality_c.jpg|1024×768]] [[HR:wallpapers/municipality_d.jpg|1600×1200]]
|-
| [[Image:TrogdorWallpaperBox.png|100px]] || '''[[Trogdor]] Wallpaper''' || Two sizes of this wallpaper were available to download through the [[Main Pages]] on January 14, 2008. || [[HR:wallpapers/trogdor_c.jpg|1024×768]] [[HR:wallpapers/trogdor_d.jpg|1600×1200]]
|-
| [[Image:PoopsmithWallpaperBox.png|100px]] || '''[[Poopsmith]] Wallpaper''' || Two sizes of this wallpaper were available to download through the [[Main Pages]] on January 28, 2008. || [[HR:wallpapers/poopsmith_c.jpg|1024×768]] [[HR:wallpapers/poopsmith_d.jpg|1602×1200]]
|}

== Music ==

Audio files that aren't used on the site.

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|-
| '''[[The Cheat]] is Not Dead''' || A sample of "[[The Cheat is Not Dead]]" from [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]. Also found by clicking on '''CD''' on the [[Sticky Notes|post-it note]] from the "Working on my CD" email menu. || [[HR:cheatnotdead.swf|Listen to the song]] [[Mirror:20030730_sbemail.html|View the "Working on my CD" email menu]] (mirror)
|-
| '''Because It's Midnite''' || A sample of "[[Because It's Midnite]]" from [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]. Also found by clicking on '''SB''' on the post-it from the "Working on my CD" email menu. || [[HR:midnight.swf|Listen to the song]] [[Mirror:20030730_sbemail.html|View the "Working on my CD" email menu]] (mirror)
|-
| '''MLS Music''' || This is the music from the old cartoon [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. It is a loop from the beginning of Beck's ''[[Wikipedia:Tropicalia (song)|Tropicalia]]''. || [[HR:music.swf|Listen to the song]]
|-
| '''Renegade Master''' || A sample from the [[Wikipedia:Fatboy Slim|Fatboy Slim]] remix of Wildchild's ''Renegade Master'' that was used for the "Characters" button on [[Main Page 4]] for a while, before being removed to avoid copyright issues. || [[HR:renegade.swf|Listen to the song]]
|-id="Poop Smoke"
| '''Poop Smoke''' || A mashup including [[Poot-Slap]] and [[Wikipedia:Deep Purple|Deep Purple]]'s ''[[Wikipedia:Smoke on the Water|Smoke on the Water]]''. || [[HR:poopsmoke.zip|Download the song]]
|}

== Images ==
Images (some in Flash, some not) that are not linked to on the site.
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Screenshot!! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|-

| [[Image:Calibos.gif]] || '''Calibos''' || An image of Calibos. Possible reference material for Strong Sad in [[different town]]. || [[HR:calibos.gif|Calibos]]
|-

| [[Image:Dennises.gif]] || '''Dennis''' || An animated GIF of various actors named [[Dennis]]. The cycle of Dennises is [[Wikipedia:Dennis Hopper|Hopper]], [[Wikipedia:Denis Leary|Leary]], [[Wikipedia:Dennis Quaid|Quaid]], and [[Wikipedia:Dennis Franz|Franz]]. || [[HR:dennises.gif|Dennis]]
|-

| [[Image:Franzer.gif|75px]] || '''Dennis Franz''' || An animated GIF with various images of Dennis Franz. According to the [[Late Nite JengaJam Interview - 4 Oct 2007|Late Nite JengaJam Interview]], this was Matt Chapman's avatar on the [[Message Bored]]. || [[HR:franzer.gif|Dennis Franz]]
|-

| [[Image:Joker.jpg|75px]] || '''Joker''' || A photo of Cesar Romero as the Joker. Probable reference material for Strong Bad in [[Halloween Fairstival]]. || [[HR:joker.jpg|Joker]]
|-

| [[Image:Polaris.gif]] || '''Happily Deranged''' || Cover of the promotional cassette "Happily Deranged", containing 3 songs from the mid '90s Nickelodeon show "[[Wikipedia:The Adventures of Pete and Pete|The Adventures of Pete & Pete]]." || [[HR:polaris.gif|Happily Derranged]]
|-

| [[Image:Coolbot.gif]] || '''Coolbot''' || Appears to be a line drawing of the [[Visor Robot]]. Used on "The_Coolest_Stuff_Ever.COM" banner. || [[HR:coolbot.gif|Coolbot]]
|-

| [[Image:Cooltitle.gif|100px]]|| '''Cooltitle''' || A banner reading "THE COOLEST STUFF EVER". Used on "The_Coolest_Stuff_Ever.COM" banner. || [[HR:cooltitle.gif|Cooltitle]]
|-
| <center>[[Image:Homestarstamp.PNG]]</center> || '''Email Updates''' || Before [[The Brothers Chaps]] started updating weekly, this was how fans knew when to check homestarrunner.com. Yet again, the link is embedded in the source of the Homestar Talker. || [[HR:updates.html|View the page]]
|-
| [[Image:Moreshirts.png|100px|More shirts]] || '''Shirts''' || Two unreleased shirts; A Waffle House parody shirt and a Jamaican Homestar shirt. || [[HR:waffleshirt.swf|View the shirts]]
|-
| [[Image:Cooleststuffeverdotcom.png|100px|The Coolest stuff ever]] || '''Coolest Stuff Ever Banner''' || A banner which says "THE COOLEST STUFF EVER". Note the title says The_Coolest_Stuff_Ever.COM. The website does not exist though, although a website called [http://www.the-coolest-stuff-ever.com The-Coolest-Stuff-Ever.com] '''does''' exist. || [[HR:coolest.html|View Coolest Stuff Ever]]
|-
| [[Image:Pom Pom Glossy.PNG|100px]] || '''Pom Pom Glossy''' || A black and white picture of [[Pom Pom]]. || [[HR:ppglossy.swf|View Pom Pom Glossy]]
|-
| [[Image:Hsglossy.png|100px]] || '''Homestar Runner Glossy''' || A black and white picture of [[Homestar Runner]]. || [[HR:hsglossy.swf|View Homestar Runner Glossy]]
|-
| [[Image:Glossy_Strong_Bad.PNG|100px]] || '''Strong Bad Glossy''' || A black and white picture of [[Strong Bad]]. Rarely used for "autographs." || [[HR:sbglossy.swf|View Strong Bad Glossy]]
|-
| [[Image:Secret Marzipan Shirts.PNG|100px]] || '''Marzipan Shirts''' || [[Marzipan]] shirts that were never used. One features Marzipan on a pink flower silhouette on a white shirt and the other has inverted colors. Both have the text ''*MARZIPAN*'' written below her in purple text. In front of both shirts is the text ''click to change'', clicking it changes the shirt to a version with smaller text, then no text, and then back to normal. Below the shirts is the text:
<blockquote>''Which do you like best? I think we should get babydolls, mediums, and spaghetti-strap tanktops. and possibly a couple larges or x-larges for fruity guys.''</blockquote>
|| [[HR:marzyshirts.swf|View Marzipan Shirts]]
|-
| [[Image:Secret Halloween Costumes.JPG|100px]] || '''Halloween Fanstuff''' || 35 pictures of people dressed up as Homestar Runner characters for Halloween. ||[[HR:weenstuff/weenstuff1.html|Ween Stuff]]
|-
| [[Image:Sbcostume10.jpeg|100px]] || '''Halloween Fanstuff''' || Another 5 pictures that link back to the above 35. ||[[HR:weenstuff/weenstuff36.html|Ween Stuff]]
|-
| [[Image:everybodyknowsiteasteregg1.jpeg|100px]] || '''[[Everybody Knows It]] Production Photos''' || Three behind-the-scenes images of the first [[Puppet Stuff]] video. They used to be Easter Eggs in the fullscreen version. || [[HR:puppet1.jpg|View first image]] [[HR:puppet2.jpg|View second image]] [[HR:puppet3.jpg|View third image]]
|-
| || '''Podstar Runner background''' || The background used for the [[Podstar Runner]] menu from 2006 to 2007. || [[Podstar:podcast_bkgrd.jpg|View the background]]
|-
| || '''Crayon Drawing''' || Homestar Runner colored with crayon. || [[HR:hs_crayon3.jpg|View Image]]
|}

== Other ==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=100 | Screenshot!! width=150 | Name !! Description !! width=200 | External Links
|-
| || '''Strong Bad Default''' || A page saying "this is strongbad" || [[HR:default.htm|View Page]]
|}

==See also==
*[[Site Components]]
*[[Easter eggs]]

[[Category:Secret Pages]][[Category:Lists]][[Category:Downloads]][[Category:Fan Material]]

Talk:Secret Pages

Bellstrom — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:05:16 GMT

Bellstrom: /* where is everything */

Television Sightings

Bellstrom — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:36:43 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Attack of the Show! */

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== [[Wikipedia:Ace of Cakes|Ace of Cakes]] ==
During the Episode [http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_db/episode/0,3100,FOOD_26996_45308,00.html Hell Week], Mary is shown working at her computer with a [[Strong Bad]] [[Store Toys#Collectible Figurines|Figurine]] sitting on top of it.

In the episode Flying High, a Trogdor Black shirt is seen on a table.

In two unknown episodes, the team makes two cakes to resemble Trogdor and Pom-Pom.
The Pictures are located at their website: http://www.charmcitycakes.com/index2.html at the Fun Stuff and Kids Stuff in the Gallery.

== [[Wikipedia:Adult Swim|Adult Swim]] ==
At the end of a Sunday night bump on April 30th, 2006, Adult Swim asked viewers to check out "our podcast, or go see Homestar Runner [which kicks our ass]".

== [[Wikipedia:Angel (TV series)|Angel]] ==
[[Image:thegirlinquestion161.jpg|thumb|Look closely at his shirt]]
*In a season five episode of ''Angel'' entitled ''The Girl in Question'', Spike and Angel visited Buffy's apartment and instead found Andrew, who was wearing a black Strong Bad t-shirt. Later in the episode, Andrew wore the same Strong Bad shirt with a pore strip plastered on his nose.
**Incidentally, Andrew is the very same character who appeared in the Trogdor-laden ''Buffy'' reference. Since both shows are the brainchildren of creator/writer/executive director Joss Whedon, we can probably assume that the creator of Buffy is also a fan of Homestar Runner.

== [[Wikipedia:Attack of the Show!|Attack of the Show!]] ==
*On the May 24, 2005 episode of G4's ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira, a host, mentions [[Peasant's Quest]].
*On the July 6, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' guest host Tom Fulp, creator of Newgrounds.com, was wearing a [[Homsar]] shirt.
*On the July 12, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira commented on a dragon tattoo saying that "It's almost Trogdor."
*On the July 20, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira mentioned that "the robots cannot beat the Trogdor."
*On the June 12, 2006 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira commented on a show saying the character got "Burninated by the great Trogdor"
*On the June 4, 2007 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' one of the choices in an "Around The Net" quiz was "Get into her car and asplode".
*On the August 2, 2007 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' one of the headlines in the "The Feed" segment stated that "YOUR CAMERA ASPLODE!".
*On the August 14, 2007 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' in the "The Feed Headlines" segment the screen said "Deposed! '''Asplode!''' Download!".
*On the September 15, 2008 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'', Kevin Pereira pulls a [[Store Toys#Collectible Figurines|Homsar figurine]] out of his new fanny pack.

== [[Wikipedia:Buffy the Vampire Slayer|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]] ==
[[Image:chosen164.jpg|thumb|Trogdor vs. Scoobies]]
In the [[Wikipedia:Chosen (Buffy episode)|series finale]] of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Ep. 722), Trogdor was used as a creature in a game of Dungeons & Dragons.

=== Transcript ===
:'''GILES:''' I'm — I'm — I'm all turned around. You're here?

:'''XANDER:''' By the pillar, yeah. I'm protecting this area.

:'''GILES:''' That puts me over by the door. Demons around the perimeter. Right! I open the door.

:''{Pan over to show Andrew is also at the table, but he's wearing a red hooded cloak.}''

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{reading from a book}'' You go through the door and are confronted by Trogdor the Burninator.

:'''GILES:''' Oh, bugger it. Fight. ''{rolls dice, sips wine}''

:'''ANDREW:''' Adios to 5 hit points. Trogdor has badly wounded you.

:'''GILES:''' Well, wait a minute. What about my... ''{puts on glasses}'' bag of illusions?

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{scoffs}'' Illusions against a Burninator? Silly, silly British man. ''{Giles sips his wine again.}''

:'''AMANDA:''' I invoke a time flux on Trogdor.

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{looks at Amanda}'' Step down, girlfriend, you can't just —

:'''AMANDA:''' Ninth level sorcerer, and I carry the emerald chalice. Trogdor is frozen in time. Deal with it.

== [[Wikipedia:Cheat!|Cheat!]] ==
On one episode of Cheat! on G4TechTV, they mentioned that if you use the random name generator enough times in the Xbox/PC game "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic," Homsar's name will be generated. This is also true with Homestar's name.

== CNN Student News ==
On the December 15, 2004 edition of [http://www.cnn.com/EDUCATION CNN Student News], a short news magazine on CNN Headline news, they had a clip of a soldier in Iraq receiving a Kick The Cheat toy for Christmas.

== [[Wikipedia:Codename: Kids Next Door|Codename: Kids Next Door]] ==
In the episode Operation: TRAINING, Numbuh 60 says "To the moooooooon!" exactly like drunk Strong Bad (and also exactly like Strong Bad when he steals the King of Town's crown), before flying to the moon.

== [[Wikipedia:CRUNCH (programming block)|CRUNCH]] ==
In the episode on March 10, the host, Ajay, was seen wearing a Teen Girl Squad T-shirt.

== d'FUSED ==
On the March 12th episode of ''d'FUSED'', a segment on Red Vs. Blue showed the cast of Homestar Runner in their real-world, plastic figurine state atop the preview monitor for a Red Vs. Blue episode.

== [[Wikipedia:Filter|Filter]] ==
This tech review show asks viewers to send in their favorite websites, but there were three websites that they did not want people submitting anymore. Homestar Runner.com was ranked #3 with 166 submissions, Red vs. Blue was #2, and Runescape was #1.

== [[Wikipedia:Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends|Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]] ==
[[Image:Bloostar.PNG|thumb|100px|This should be self explanatory.]]
*During the episode "Bloo's Brothers" a Bloo clone that looks very similar to Homestar appears very briefly. This version reappears in a mini-game in "Big Fat Awesome House Party".
*The ending of the episode "A Sight For Sore Eyes" is very similar to [[Old Intro 2]].
*In "Duchess of Wails", there's an orange imaginary friend that looks like [[Trogdor]].
*In "Infernal Slumber", both Bloo and Goo talk about "killer Pooooooosssssssumssss", dragging the word out much like in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]], (Goo pronounces it exactly like Strong Bad).

== [[Wikipedia:G4tv.com|G4tv.com]] ==
*On [http://www.g4tv.com/g4tv/episodes/3888/Men_are_from_World_of_Warcraft_Woman_are_From_The_Sims.html this episode] of G4tv.com on G4, an unnamed person, playing the role of Laura Foy's date, was seen wearing a "[[Trogdor (character)|Trogdor]]" shirt. The video clip, entitled Gamer Dating Do's And Don'ts is now available for viewing at [http://www.g4tv.com/mediaplayer/index.aspx?video_key=9033 this location.]
*In a commercial for [http://www.g4tv.com/cinematech Cinematech], the title of [[Peasant's Quest]] is seen very briefly.
*In an online ad for G4's "The Cheat Sheet" it stated that it had "So many cheats, your head may [[Strongbadzone|a'splode]]."

== Global News ==
On one report on the show, the reporters were interviewing a girl wearing a Strong Sad T-Shirt.

== Junkin' ==
On the television show ''[http://www.turnersouth.com/network/shows/junkin/ Junkin']'', the host "Dave" has appeared wearing Trogdor and Strong Bad T-shirts.

== [[Wikipedia:The Late Show with David Letterman|The Late Show with David Letterman]] ==
On the Late Show with David Letterman, in one of their specials, they had "phil[['d]]" on one of the answers.

== [[Wikipedia:Live at 5 (CTV TV series)|Live at 5]] ==
On January 31 2006, on Live at Five (Atlantic Canadian 5 o'clock news), there was a segment about chronic pain caused by computer usage that featured a group of kids watching [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] on the computer.

== Mad Labs ==
In the sound episode, they asked a question to a boy with a red The Cheat shirt.

== [[Wikipedia:Maya and Miguel|Maya and Miguel]] ==
At the end of an episode, when they interview real people, a kid was seen wearing a Strong Bad hoodie, though this is barely viewable because the picture is blurred out.

== [[Wikipedia:Megas XLR|Megas XLR]] ==
In an episode called "Breakout", Coop tried to use an attack called Double Deuce by jumping and putting two fists in front of him.

== [[Wikipedia:Monster House (TV series)|Monster House]] ==
In an episode of ''Monster House'' called "[http://www.tvtome.com/MonsterHouse/season1.html#ep18 Sports House]," the host, Steve, is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt during the introductions. This episode first aired February 2, 2004.
In the Christmas House episode, a group of 'carolers' from across the neighborhood sings for the people living in the house. One girl is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt.

== [[Wikipedia:My Gym Partner's a Monkey|My Gym Partner's a Monkey]] ==
*At one point in the episode called "Making the Grade", Jake Spidermonkey says Homsar's line from [[Where's The Cheat?]]: "I just lost my jenga jam."
*Also in one episode Jake said to use [[grrl]] power.

== [[Wikipedia:New York Noise|New York Noise]] ==
The entire video for [[Experimental Film]] was shown.

== [[Wikipedia:NFL Films|NFL Films]]: Game of the Week ==
About three quarters through this hour-long recap of the game, a Falcons' victory, one of the defensive linemen for Atlanta, Patrick Kerney, points to his family in the stands. One of them is holding up a sign that says "GOOD JORB!", an unmistakable reference to [[Coach Z]].

== [[Wikipedia:Pulse|Pulse]] ==
In early 2004, the show Pulse on G4TechTV featured an interview with the Brothers Chaps in which they were asked about the new game that they are developing for the Atari 2600. They showed many video clips of their Atari game. The Chaps talked about how they record their voices and how successful they have been. They announced that later in the year they planned to release a DVD with the first hundred emails. After the commercial break, the hosts interviewed the company that is developing the Homestar Runner game, Videlectrix, which was really just one of the Brothers Chaps wearing a fake mustache.

== [[Wikipedia:Ripley's Believe it or Not!|Ripley's Believe it or Not!]] ==
In a segment talking about painted [[Wikipedia: Silicon Chip|silicon computer chips]], one of the examples shown has [[Strong Bad]] painted on it.

== [[Wikipedia:The Sarah Silverman Program|The Sarah Silverman Program]] ==
*In various episodes, the [[Homestar and Strong Bad Poster]] can be seen in Brian and Steve's apartment.
*In various episodes and promos, Sarah wears the star shirt sold at the [[Store|Homestar Store]].

== [[Wikipedia:The Screen Savers|The Screen Savers]] ==
*An episode of The Screen Savers on G4TechTV featured a guest who is making a [[Homestar Runner RPG]] for the Atari 2600, which is still in development.
*The [http://www.g4techtv.com/screensavers/episodes/3848/Home_Star_Runner_eXeem_LA_Auto_Show.html January 24th episode] of The Screen Savers had [[The Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005|an interview]] with [[The Brothers Chaps]]. In this episode, puppet Strong Bad made his debut to answer questions from fans. The article also mentions that in order to learn more than one ever thought possible about [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]], one can head over to the Homestar Runner Wiki.

== [[Wikipedia:Still Standing|Still Standing]] ==
On the fireplace mantle in the living room, there is what appears to be a homemade version of a Marzipan puppet. The only difference is that her dress is a lighter, more pink color, and the trim ribbons on it are purple. The Marzipan-doll is particularly noticeable in the Episode 6 ("Still Cheering," in which Brian joins the football team and then becomes a cheerleader), during the scene when Bill and Brian are rehearsing cheer routines.

== [[Wikipedia:The Suite Life of Zack and Cody|Suite Life of Zack and Cody, The]]==
In an episode with a dance contest, someone comments "I call it last place" about a dance move of Cody's, much as Homestar did in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].

== [[Wikipedia:Survivor: Pearl Islands|Survivor: Pearl Islands]] ==
When Ryan Shoulders picks up some tree mail (the show's system of getting messages to the castaways), he sings the opening to SB Email [[techno]], singing it as "the tree mail, the tree mail, what, what, the tree mail."

== [[Wikipedia:Test the Nation|Test the Nation]] ==
One of the persons on the Gamers team on the 2006 version of the New Zealand version of this quiz show is wearing a Strong Bad t-shirt.

== [[Wikipedia:The Tonight Show with Jay Leno|The Tonight Show with Jay Leno]] ==
Leno was showing examples of absurd eBay auctions and having the audience guess whether they sold or not. One of them was a laptop that had been shot with a shotgun. Its subject line said "LIKE USED! SLIGHTLY SHOTGUNNED!" like the tags on the similarly shotgunned Compy at the end of [[virus]]. It sold.

==[[Wikipedia:The West Wing (TV series)|The West Wing]]==
In Season 4, in the episode entitled ''The California 47th'' which aired on February 19, 2003, [[Wikipedia:C. J. Cregg|C. J. Cregg]] said, "Don't be fooled. They love us in Orange County. They're crazy-go-nuts for the President."

== [[Wikipedia:WonderShowzen|WonderShowzen]] ==
In an episode of "Wondershowzen," a puppet named Chauncey, in one of many skits, informed the number Two that if she didn't stop talking, he would 'puke his pants,' as [[Coach Z]] threatened in [[secret recipes]]. Number Two proceeded to leave the screen.

== [[Wikipedia:X-Play|X-Play]] ==
*On an episode of G4TechTV's ''X-Play'', the wrestling game "WWE: Day of Reckoning" is reviewed. To demo the "create your own wrestler" mode, the reviewers create a wrestler that looks suspiciously like Strong Bad, and appears to be named "ESSBEE".
*On the August 27, 2006 episode of ''X-Play'' Adam Sessler references "[[anything|a neverending bottle of Mountain Dew]]".
*On the November 21st Episode of ''X-Play'', they reviewed Guitar Hero 2, and showcased the song "TROGDOR!", an actual unlockable track in the game. They also used the song when nominating the game in their best of year awards.
*During the preview of "Neverwinter Nights 2", in reference to the horrid framerate, Adam Sessler is heard muttering, "Wow, this game must be running on a Tandy 400"
*In an episode featuring game previews Adam Sessler makes reference to "a light switch rave", a reference to [[techno]].
*in the April 15, 2008 episode of ''X-Play'', the Homestar Runner logo and [[Strong Bad Gameways|Strong Bad Gameways]] were shown.
*In a recent episode a preview of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]] was shown as Adam Sessler interviewed one of the developers of the game.

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==[[Wikipedia:Yes, Dear|Yes, Dear]]==
*Jimmy walks out of Greg's office and shouts "[[Eh! Steve!|EH STEVE!]]"

Website Sightings

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== The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards ==
[[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] won in the Best Use of Flash category at [http://www.ccawards.com/2004.htm "The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards"]

==The $39 Experiment==
On a site called [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com The $39 Experiment] a man named Tom Locke sent 100 letters to 100 companies asking for free stuff. In [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com/march15.htm one letter] to "Del Monte Pet Products" Tom claims that he has a dog named [[Li'l Brudder]].
== 8-Bit Theater ==
*In [http://www.nuklearpower.com/redmage21.php Twinkin' out with RedMage 21:Errata!], a once-weekly advice column, a reader inquires: "How does strong bad type with boxing gloves"


== 8BitJoystick.com ==
In [http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_how_to_burn_xbox_games_and_copy_protected_cds.php this article] about how to literally burn CDs, the author notes to "burn it properly like Trogdor burninates the peasants."

== Addicting Games ==
*[http://www.addictinggames.com The site] features [[Stinkoman 20X6]] and [[TROGDOR!]]
*[[Awexome Cross]] and [[Population: Tire]] were on the site before it was redesigned.
*In the game [http://www.addictinggames.com/trackmaster.html Track Master], if you get a good score it says good jorb.
*In the game [http://www.http://www.addictinggames.com/slacker2.html Slacker 2], after you beat the game there is an epilogue, and if you zoom in on Slacker's nametag, it has a picture of [[Homestar Runner]].
* In the game [http://www.addictinggames.com/scribble2.html Scribble 2], Level 17 you draw an arrow, and the description reads "Arrow'd."
* In The game [http://www.addictinggames.com/dressupbarack.html Dress Up Barack], of the things you can put on Barack Obama, a Strong Bad Mask and Boxing Gloves are avalible. If you enter this code then you will see Barack as Strong Bad: {d:5013,c:hat,y:0.849999999999994,x:29.7,mc:hat009},{d:4011,c:glasses,y:209.75,x:-8.19999999999999,mc:glasses009},{d:4012,c:glasses,y:208,x:91.85,mc:glasses008},{f:2,mc:_level0.background_mc},{d:2007,c:pants,y:196.65,x:27.55,mc:pants005}
*For the game Terrascape, when it was displayed in the new features, it said "Do you fight for good, or awesome?".
*In the description for [http://www.addictinggames.com/portalflashversion.html Portal Flash Version] it asks "Do you has?"
== All Your Base parody list ==
The [http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/ayb.htm TmsT Zero Wing Parodies Emporium] features "[http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/allyourstrongbad.htm All Your HomeStarRunner are belong to Trogdor]".

==Animalxing.com==
*On the [http://www.animalxing.com/patternsv3/textures.php Textures] page, They have many Homestar related designs such as Homestar, Strong Bad, The Cheat, etc. that can be found by typing in the search box.
*An image of [[Strong Bad]] to be used on the Animal Crossing cat, Blanca, appears [http://www.animalxing.com/blanca_ah.php here.]

== Atari Age ==
At [http://www.atariage.com this site], someone hacked the Atari "Donkey Kong" game. Player, Enemy, and Object sprites have been changed to resemble characters from Homestar Runner. [http://www.atariage.com/hack_page.html?SystemID=2600&SoftwareHackID=186 You can find it here].

== BB-Spot-''Which website are you?'' ==
In the [http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz.php website personality test] at www.bbspot.com, one of the [http://bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz_all.html possible answers] you can get is [[homestarrunner.com]].

== Best Page In The Universe ==
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In [http://maddox.xmission.com/aliens.html one article], Maddox rants about the amount of emails he gets, and remarks "I know there are other big websites out there that generate a lot of email (my sympathies to the Chapman brothers)". This must mean he is aware of homestarrunner.com, and according to his book signing tour in 2006, he likes Strong Bad.

==Brooks TV==
* Homestar can be seen in the bottom left panel in ''[http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6577/brookstvcspg10ky.gif this]'' comic. Also in that panel, it says "fall[['d]] off!", a reference to Teen Girl Squad.
* The main character, Brooks, kills Strong Bad by order of Homestar in a comic which can be seen [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35785234/?qo=18&q=by%3Abrooxweb+sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps here].
* In [http://btv.porplemontage.com/strips/BTV_STRIP_bighead.gif this] comic, Brooks mentions Butt IQ when answering fan mail.

== Bryan Waterman Interview ==
Bryan Waterman, who does the series "''[http://www.watermanstudios.com Waterman]''" had an interview and he mentioned the best internet cartoon was Homestar Runner:
<blockquote>
:''Who is your favorite flash movie artist or flash artists if you have more than one? What are some of your favorite flash movie series?''

:'''BRYAN WATERMAN:''' Above all else Homestar Runner not only do I love the cartoon, Mike and Matt are two good friends of mine. Bonus Stage is another one I really like and I do look forward to Joseph's animations.
</blockquote>
[http://www.medaverse.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=2&page=2 See It Here]

== Burning Sand ==
A Trogdor icon was made in the Burning Sand thread in the Falling Sand Game Forum. You can find the page that displays the icon [http://fallingsandgame.com/viewtopic.php?t=3431&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=210 '''here'''] and you can download the most recent version of Burning Sand [http://siebn.de/index.php?page=burningsand/download here].

== BZPower ==
-There is a whole section under the forum 'Completely Off Topic' dedicated completely to Home Star Runner.

-There is a Home Star Runner Chimrou Kit being made out of Dark709's Chimrou Kit by member Boba Fett.

-There are also several other instances in which a line or two from HSR is mentioned. Mostly, it is in comedies and comics, such as Dark709's.

== Charm City Cakes ==
At [http://www.charmcitycakes.com/ Charm City Cakes] one of the cakes in the Kids Stuffs page is titled "Trogdor". The cake, however, does not resemble Trogdor at all.

== Charlie Clay And The Clay Crew ==
At [http://www.freewebs.com/charlieclay/ this site] created by [http://www.freewebs.com/tehcartoonistproductions/ Teh Cartoonist Productions], all of Season 1's episodes contain Homestar cameos.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209220516.gif&s=x4 Episode 1] A Trogdor arcade game can be seen behind the Sonic arcade game that the crew is playing.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209253732.gif&s=x4 Episode 2] The crew finds a gray monster, but when they put the flashlight on it, they find out it is actually Homestar and he helps them get their power back.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2915224932.gif&s=x2 Episode 3] Jacob wears Homestar's shoes and gets beat up by Homestar, the text "ROCK'D" pops up when Charlie is hit by a rock in the head, the text "ROCK'D AGAIN!" pops up as a guy who commented the grammar error gets a rock thrown at his head, and Trogdor gets defeated by Charlie doing homing attack on him.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/3916110594.gif&s=x7 Episode 4] "Thief'd" is the episode name and Homestar gets stolen by the thief.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/6215223823.gif&s=x10 Episode 5] Homestar escapes from the thief with Charlie.

== Choose your own change ==
If you submit a story to [http://www.cyoc.net Choose Your Own Change], the following message appears: "Your article has been received... If Instructions on the previous page have been followed your story will be posted soon, if not it will be [[DELETED|baleeted!]]"

==Chris Creamer's Sports Logo Page==

A few years ago, on the board for Chris Creamer's Sports Logo page, someome did a custom logo based on Trogdor. website is chriscreamer.com.

== CNET Webware 100 ==
On 18 June, 2007, CNET published a [http://www.webware.com/html/ww/100.html listing of the top 100 Web applications]. Homestar Runner [http://www.webware.com/8301-13546_109-9729509-29.html?tag=blog.1 was one of the ten selected] for the Entertainment category.

== Comcast.net ==
[[Image:Comcast Homestar.PNG|thumb|It's Dot Net!]]
On June 10th, 2004, homestarrunner.com was featured on [http://www.comcast.net Comcast.net's] main page as the icon for its "FUN FOR ALL AGES" news article, where [[Homestar Runner]]'s image was displayed, along with a link to the website and [[The Brothers Chaps]]' meeting with G4TechTV.

== Crash Mania ==
The ALT text for the bottom left image of [http://crashmania.topcities.com/scrbash-2.htm this page] reads "I just lost my jenga jam", a reference to Homsar's line in [[Where's The Cheat?]]

== Cube Craft.com==

Website that specializes on [[Wikipedia:Paper model|papercraft]] models of characters, [http://home.comcast.net/~kymcat3/index.html cubecraft.com]. One of the models you can create is [[Strong Bad]] [http://home.comcast.net/~kymcat3/character026.html].

== Dance Dance Immolation ==
On a site for Dance Dance Immolation, a flaming DDR, a gallery contains a picture of a man on fire with the caption "BURNINATED!!". [http://www.interpretivearson.com/gallery/album05?page=3]

== Dangerskew ==
*A Flash developer on [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com Albino Black Sheep], Dangerskew, is a reference to [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]].
*Some of the games developed by this author are [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cheeserobots Attack of the Cheese Eating Robots], [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/industry Industry], and [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/redlight Red Light].

== Devon M ==
Although the site isn't a parody/fan site anymore, there is still some references to the H*R universe.
*One of the things that the {{p|l=http://devonm.com/ "under construction"}} index page states, is to go check out "Homestar Runner" while it's being renovated.

== Double-Tongued Word Wrester ==
Neolinguist Grant Barrett has done an [http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/comments/3102/ entry on "asplode"] on his site. It looks like "asplode" was not coined by the Brothers Chaps, but he agrees that "This term was popularized in 2004 by the character Strong Bad on the HomestarRunner web site."

== Duct Tape Guys ==
At [http://www.ducttapeguys.com DuctTapeGuys.com] on [http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/fashion/accessories/accessories1.html this]
webpage there is a picture of a duct tape backpack featuring Strong Bad, Marzipan, and Homestar.

== Ebolaworld.com ==
In a parody of the video game Night Trap, Homestar can sometimes be seen in empty rooms. Usually the bedroom.
The game can be found [http://www.ebolaworld.com/movies/tacoman/07.html here]

== Engrish.com ==
The image featured on [http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=battery-instruction.jpg&category=Instructions&date=2006-10-25 this page] is Strong Bad's "Eating Five Batteries" illustration from [[english paper]].

== Episode Comparisons ==
The anime episode comparison site [http://mmpu.smuncensored.com/ Mew Mew Power Uncensored] sometimes uses the term [[DELETED|Baleeted]] and frequently uses the Teen Girl Squad-esque term [[-'d|DELET'D]] in their comparisons to say when a scene was cut out.

== Eric Conveys The Brothers Chaps? ==
*Eric at [http://www.emotioneric.com Eric Conveys an Emotion] got together with The Brothers Chaps for a rough and tumble game of football, complete with Eric's warped and hilarious sense of humor. See a step-by-step progression of [http://www.emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=thefootballgame The Game]. On page 1 [[Trogdor]] is in the background, on page 2 [[The Ugly One]] is in the background, on page 3 [[Old-Timey Homestar]] is in the background, on page 4 Homestar is in the background, on page 5 [[Strong Bad]] is in the background, on page 6, [[The Cheat]] is actually in the foreground, on page 7, [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]] and a keg of [[Melonade]] are in the background, and on page 8, [[Stinkoman]] is in the background.
*Also, in "Getting a great idea... while falling to your doom" Eric has a [[Homsar]] shirt on. [http://www.emotioneric.com/greatideafalldoom.jpg greatideafalldoom.jpg]

== Europa Universalis Forums ==
This site has a large number of fanfiction entries for Paradox Entertainment games, such as Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron. The author Prufrock451 put a "Private Benedetto" in [http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204565 this] Hearts of Iron 2 After Action Report. He's told to "keep that mess down".

==Factorize==
One of their randomized slogans reads "_______ can count to purple." A reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].

==Fail!==
On the FAQ page of [http://fail.comicgenesis.com/faqs.html this] website, the ever-popular boxing glove question is asked. The response is "This interview is over.", which is a reference to [[pizzaz]].

== Fake Domain Registration Info ==
The [http://whois.webhosting.info/OLENE.NET. registration information] provided for "olene.net" references [[Mundelow]], [[Schenectady Crispies]], [[some kinda robot|Abdi LaRue]], [[Cheap as Free]], [[cheat talk|Cory, ND]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Coach Z's Locker Room|his locker room]].

== FeedBurner ==
[[Image:FeedBurner_Sighting.png|thumb|Let's date.]]
On the [http://www.feedburner.com FeedBurner] website, in the section in which you can manage your feeds, random messages show up. One of them is this: "To the nearly 140,000 customers using FeedBurner... we are [http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs2.html totally crushing] (in a good way)." The link takes you to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]].

== Finding Sushi ==
In [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtn-QbGnaXM Part 4 of Finding Sushi], the opening is a complete rip-off of the email [[senior prom]], with JarJar(Bubbles) getting his very own cartoon show, very akin to The King Of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon show, complete with matching music. The first segment involves Marlin checking an email that is very similar to the sbemail [[different town]]. A music video is then done with The Different Town Song. Also, When Yoda throws the rocks at Nemo, the "Throw baby" sound clip from [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] plays. Also, in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWYlEsKoNAQ&mode=related&search= Part 5], [[Homsar]]s quote "Alms for the pudgy" from [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] and [[Coach Z]]s quote "JEAOOOOOOOOORB" from [[A Jorb Well Done]] is used in the fake intermissions.

== Flame Warriors ==
The [http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm entry for Garble] includes a reference to a certain [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|infamous question often asked of Strong Bad]].

== Flying Omelette's Kitchen ==
*According to [http://www.flyingomelette.com/ this site], Strong Bad may have been switched at birth with Viewtiful Joe or the Red Power Ranger as found in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities45.html this article] .
*Also, The Cheat is compared to Pikachu in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities31.html this article].

== The Force.net Humor ==
At a Star Wars Fansite's humor section one of their "Top 46 lists" titled 'Top 47 lesser known goals of the evil empire' says "Secret co-production of Dangeresque 1, 2, & 3" at number 8. [http://www.theforce.net/humor/topten/ct10_lesser_known_goals_pt1.asp The List] [http://www.theforce.net/humor The Site]

==Forum Stage==
On the main page, the description for episode 1 is "Idiot gets sucked into the internet creating a cartoon so bad, [[Homestar Runner]] died." It can be seen [http://www.editthis.info/FSwiki/index.php/Internet here.]

==The Four Word Film Review==
One of the reviews for [http://www.fwfr.com/display.asp?ID=63 Mars Attacks!] contains the review "Their hed a splode"

== Fred The Monkey ==
[http://www.fredthemonkey.com/ Fred the Monkey.com] is a Flash animation site that is greatly influenced by Homestar Runner. It's been around for four years now. Like Homestar Runner, the site features a "First Time Here"-video and a mailbag, very much like Strong Bad's e-mail, and in the sixteenth mailbag, he comments on how he gets a lot of emails from people pretending to be Strong Bad. Another similarity is that certain characters are able to pick up and manipulate objects without having visible arms. However, in one of the earlier mailbags, it is explicitly explained that these characters do in fact possess psychic powers. Another more obvious reference is displayed in [http://www.fredthemonkey.com/cartoons/reviewSM2.html this toon], where Fred The Monkey wears a Strong Bad mask at the end. Also, during the end credits, it says that " Strong Bad is (obviously) property of h*r"

== Fruitcake MIDI ==
Dr. Fruitcake, a famous video game music sequencer and remixer, has created a song called "The Occasional Beat (Strong Bad Remix)" in tribute to [[new hands]]. Check the song out [http://www.fcmidi.net/mp3/drf_bw_beat.mp3 here]. [http://www.fcmidi.net Fruitcake MIDI]

== Funny Junk ==
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*In a flash cartoon {{inlinecontentwarning|Adult Material|Adult Material}}[http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/smurf.htm here], Strong Bad is dancing in the middle of the screen at about the middle of the flash cartoon. He dances like he does in [[The Luau]].
*The image [http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4040/Pandas+Need+Protecting/ here] depicts a Panda holding a machine gun with the [[Pistols for Pandas]] logo below it.

== Funny Part ==
[http://www.funnypart.com Funny part], a website with numerous funny pictures, cartoons, and jokes, had [[Teen Girl Squad]] issues 2 and 3 on their website, though they have since been removed. 

== FunOrb ==
In the game Miner Disturbance, death by volcano explosion can yield the message "Burninated."

== Futurama Madhouse ==
At the [http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar Futurama Madhouse], they have a regular feature on "Uses for a hacker".
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack498.png Use #498] is entitled "Homsar's Translator" and features everyone's favorite blue midget Homestar, [[Homsar]]!
*The copyright reads "© [[Tandy 400]], [[The Brothers Chaps|Chapman Bros]]".
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack667.png Use #667] is entitled "Homestar Runner's Evil Twin", and features, just that.
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack669.png Use #669], entitled "Strong Bad's Torture Victims Who Misspell Repeetedli", is the latest Homestar-related use for a hacker.

== G4TV ==

When under construction, the official site for [http://www.g4tv.com G4TV] displayed an error message which read [http://www.g4tv.com/errored.html?eventlog_key=1776941 "ERROR'ed!"]
also a recent cheat! ad reads "so many cheats it might make your head asplode!"
==Gamecheetz==
*Homestar Runner is mentioned on the [http://www.gamecheetz.com GameCheetz] [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Links.html link] page under "Excellent Humorous Sites".
*In the comic [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Comic.php?comic=15692 "Buzz Buzz"], there's a caption in the 7th frame that reads "If you don't recognize this, then you need to go to homestarrunner.com".
*One of the Forum avatars is a picture of Ilko's head.

== GameFAQs ==
*On the [http://www.gamefaqs.com GameFAQs] video game database, there are pages for [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/922153.html here] and [[Stinkoman 20X6]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/928815.html here], where each game has user-submitted walkthroughs, reviews and more, as well as its own message board!
*Homestar Runner is listed as a company [http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/75484.html here].
*Also, The Unofficial Homestarrunner board can be found [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=575567 here.]
*On April Fools 2006, a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2333 poll] on GameFAQs listed a series of internet phrases, one of which being "YOUR HEAD ASPLODE".

== The Game Rag ==
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In [http://www.thegamerag.com/archives/2006/07/feature_my_24_hours_with_g4tv_2.php My 24 Hours With G4TV], the author writes at 3am: "[I]t’s late and I’m getting tired. I begin to go slightly insane, and draw [[Trogdor]] on the bottom of my foot." A [http://www.thegamerag.com/pics/Foot1.jpg photo] of his drawing is included in the article, sans wings.

== GamesRadar ==
[http://www.gamesradar.com/us/index.jsp GamesRadar] featured a video for [[Wikipedia:Ultimate Ninja 2|Ultimate Ninja 2]] with the headline "Burninate!"

== The Geek Show ==
On ''[http://www.thegeekshow.com/ The Geek Show]'', Strong Bad Emails are frequently shown as an example of "What's funny on the internet." They have played "[[japanese cartoon]]", "[[dullard]]", "[[theme party]]" and "[[Strong Bad Sings]]" on their show.

== Golo Theme song ==
In this [http://web.mac.com/davidgonzalez3/iWeb/Site/Podcast/A3D987B8-0E97-4554-9478-C563F78E60F4.html song], D.J Silver and his little brother Diego both mention the email [[privileges]].

== Google ==
*During development, [[Wikipedia:Google Page Creator|Google Page Creator]] was codenamed "[[Trogdor]]".
*On an episode of Google Current, the host (Conor Knighton) wears a Strong Bad shirt. [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8426498908161701167 Video]
*The [http://www.google.com/ig/directory?hl=en Google Personalized Home Page Content Directory] contains a [http://www.google.com/ig/directory?hl=en&num=24&url=http://www.interglacial.com/rss/homestar.rss&q=&start=0 Homestar Runner piece] that you can add to your personalized home page.

==HALOLZ==
*A person submitted a pitcure of the Milkman from the game [[Wikipedia:Pyschonauts|Psychonauts]] with a caption with altered lyrics of [[Trogdor (song)]].

== Hardcore Gaming 101 ==
In the [http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/bioniccommando/bioniccommando.htm Bionic Commando article], the writer mentions a "strong Badd" (the name of the enemy army), and then proceeds to laugh over his gag and pointing it out.

== Holy Bibble ==
* On the comic page of comic [http://www.holybibble.net/index.php?id=93 #93], Cannan mentions "Every time somebody gets burninated in Holy Bibble, I get the most awesome dreams..."

== Homokaasu.org ==
A Homestar Runner [http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/gallery.gas?1331 wall-size printout] demonstrating homokaasu.org's Rasterbator software (Web service)

== IGN ==
*The image behind the Nintendo Wi-Fi Registration Tool is from a [[Teen Girl Squad]] comic in [http://ds.ign.com/articles/665/665128p1.html this article].
*In the Animal Crossing: Wild World video review at the 2:52 mark, there is a selection screen where you pick the design for your clothes. There are three Homestar inspired designs, including the red star shirt, a Homestar head, and Strong Bad. The video selection page is found [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vids_1.html here], and the actual video is on the top left, or [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vid_1341240.html here.]
*Concerning a Video Game Law in Oklahoma, IGN titled the article "Oklahoma Burninates Game Law" found [http://wii.ign.com/articles/738/738882p1.html here].
*IGN mentiones Homestarrunner.com in their [http://ds.ign.com/articles/802/802002p1.html review] of the Nintendo DS Web Browser.

== I-Mockery==
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*Pickleman and the Green Thumb of Triumph
**When you are bitten by the vampire bat, you become a block of cheese, accompanied with the message "CHEESED!". See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/pickleman-greenthumb/default.php here].
*I-Mockery's Great American Road Trip
**At a medieval fair, RoG sees a simplistic dragon toy, and compares it to [[Trogdor]]. See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/american-roadtrip/day4b.php here].
*EVOLUTION OF JACK!
**After Pjalne pretends to have stabbed himself in the arm, there is a picture of Andy with a caption of "Halloween'd", which is a direct reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/halloween/bag/jack3.php here].
*Bishop of Battle
**On the second page of his review, the image of the Bishop swallowing J.J. is captioned with a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!" A direct link to the page is available [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/bishopofbattle/page2.php here].

== Insert Disc Two ==
In the sketch My Dream Date with James Joyce, Lori Williams' character has a [[The Cheat]] doll on her bed.

== Inspirational Posters ==
A website cataloging [http://www.geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/ inspirational posters] based on role-playing games includes one titled "[http://www.geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/artistry.html Artistry]", which features the "S is for Sucks" from [[dragon]].

== Jay is games ==
[http://jayisgames.com/ Jay is games] is a site that reviews a large number of online games. They have had reviews of [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2004/08/peasants_quest.php] and [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2006/04/thy_dungeonman.php].

== JengaJam.com ==
[http://www.jengajam.com This] website always puts up links to the latest Homestar updates. The name of the site came from Homsar's quote in [[Where's The Cheat?]], and the sub heading "The Pride of the Peaches" is derived from a quote by Strong Bad, who at the time of the [[Interview]] sbemail, was imitating Homsar.

== Joe Wuz Here! ==
In Comic 2 of the main series, The police car that Joe was put in has a lisence plate labeled "BURNIN8R." The site can be found [http://www.freewebs.com/joecomic Here.]

== The Joshua Childers Show! ==
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihqpZLId31g/ The Joshua Childers Show!] is a webshow on [http://www.YouTube.com/ YouTube] where a teenager parodies different TV show genres. In the first episode, Joshua is seen wearing a [[Stinkoman]] shirt.

==Joystiq==
*One of the articles is entitled "[http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/27/nykos-intercooler-may-burninate-the-xbox-360/ Nyko's Intercooler may burninate the Xbox 360]" and features a picture of the pencil-drawn Trogdor (from [[dragon]]) next to an Xbox 360 with an Intercooler unit.
*The "[http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/15/todays-hottest-game-video-vga-06-motion-capture-skit/ Today's hottest game video]" article for the 15th of December 2006 features a screen capture from [[Sample of Style Too]] at the beginning of the article.
*The release of [[Where's an Egg?]] was [http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/18/videlectrix-releases-another-game-parody-wheres-an-egg/ announced] on the website on July 18, 2007.

==Kevin & Kell==
*Lindesfarne, one of the fictional characters in the comic, has her own blog. One of the entries in the blog is called [http://blog.kevinandkell.com/archives/64-TRADEMARKD.html TRADEMARK'D].

==Kings of Chaos==
After attacking an enemy in the MMORPG [http://www.kingsofchaos.com/ Kings of Chaos], the victory page will sometimes say "You burninated the enemy!" an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

==Kotaku==
*On the page showing [http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/fish/splinter-cell-fishtank-gameplay-204975.php Splinter Cell: Double Agent "Fishtank Gameplay"], the author mentions that "PETA is going to get [[all up ons]]".
*On the page listing [http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/comments/become-a-kotakuite-209163.php just how easy it is to comment on Kotaku], the word "BANNINATE" is used, an obvious pun on [[Trogdor|burnination]].
*In the "[http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/rainbow-six-vegas/rainbow-six-vegas-demo-out-on-live-but-not-in-vegas-209685.php Rainbow Six Vegas Demo Out On Live, But Not In Vegas]" article, the term "[[double deuce]]" is used.
*Kotaku also [http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/strong-bad-on-the-wii-232190.php reported] on the debut of [[Viidelectrix]].

== La La La ==
The video "[http://www.flashplayer.com/music/lalala.html La La La]" on UGOplayer contains a few Homestar Runner characters, including Strong Bad and Homestar Runner. It also includes the Homestarmy wallpaper image, edited to suit the cartoon.

== Laser Dragon University ==
In [http://www.laserdragonuniversity.com/?page=students Students], there is a character who wears a T-shirt with the logo for [[Taranchula]].

== Legendaryfrog.com ==
*In [http://www.legendaryfrog.com/flashmovies/kerri3.htm Kerrigan's Big Invention] there is a picture of Strong Bad and Homestar on the chalk board.
*In [http://www.legendaryfrog.com/flashmovies/avp.htm Senya's movie review: Alien V.S. Predator] there are several cheat commandos toys by the toy box.
*In [http://vgp.legendaryfrog.com/movies_wgf_w.php When Gnomes Fly] the main characters name is Brudder, a reference to [[Lil' Brudder]].
*In [http://collabs.legendaryfrog.com/movies_tmhy_w.php The Matrix Has You], the little girl yells "It's Over", at the very end of Lengendary Frog's part, like Strong Bad does at the end of almost every [[Teen Girl Squad]] episode.

== Lemmy's Land ==
*In one of [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/ Lemmy's] [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php Funnies] called [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php?&Submission=514 "Superstar Mario in Too Much Water"] By Drew, we see the classic "Scene missing" bit from [[Parsnips A-Plenty]] and [[The Homestar Runner]] says, "What?" while Mario was still drinking water to become fat.
*Three of [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk29/lk29.htm Lemmy's Interviews] have Homestar Runner characters as the interviewers: [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk29/lk29-1720.html HOMESTAR RUNNER AND POM POM interview GOOMBA], [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk29/lk29-1727.html STRONG BAD AND THE CHEAT interview ROY KOOPA], and [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk29/lk29-1738.html STRONG SAD interviews LUIGI].

== LoadingReadyRun ==
*In the video entitled [http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/35/The+Rant+-+Scenesters+and+Snobbery The Rant - Scenesters and Snobbery], you can see [[Store Toys#Collectible Figurines|figurine sets]] one and two on top of the television.
*In the video entitled [http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/70/Sleep+Dep+Experiment Sleep Dep Experiment], Morgan says he's been making [[stnanks]].
*In the video entitled [http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/12/awesomewe__shot_this AWESOME: We ... Shot This!], G Unit's (Graham Stark's)lyrics include the word "Homestar".

== "The Lost Experience" ABC's Official Blog ==
In [http://blogs.abc.com/inside_the_experience/ Speaker's "Reader Mail 2"], after one question was repeated one too many times, Speaker angrily responds, "Grah! What? Who? GAH! Is this my 'How do you type with boxing gloves on?' question?"
Later, Speaker posted a "Video Reader Mail" on YouTube, which prominently featured the [[Kick The Cheat]] doll in the background and referred to "e-mail personalities" having raspy voices (like [[Strong Bad]]).

== ManCrush ==
[[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], and [[Coach Z]] are all listed, currently rated at #[http://mancrush.com/mc/man/787 1102], #[http://mancrush.com/mc/man/1048 674], #[http://mancrush.com/mc/man/894 1271], and #[http://mancrush.com/mc/man/764 933], respectively.

==The Man of 101 Voices==
"Brock" released a video on Myspace called "The Man of 101 Voices" where he did impressions of Teen Girl Squad, Bubs, Coach Z, The Cheat, and Larry from Limozeen as numbers 91-95. The video can be seen [http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1636225861 here]

== Mind Body Guide ==
*Strong Bad is the featured image of a slightly tongue-in-cheek tally of the body’s many muscles on [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/biological-literacy-how-many-muscles.php this site].
*Strong Bad Email [[suntan]] is quoted when the article states, "let’s not forget the cloits and dloits!"
*The [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/biological-literacy-how-many-muscles.php#note1 footnote] says "There are no such thing as cloits or dloits. This is a reference to anatomy according to Strong Bad, which is hilarious, and included here entirely for the sake of comic relief. Kind of like the whole article, come to think of it."

== More Awesome Than You! ==
*[http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com This] page (warning: explicit "under construction" graphic) the index.html page title is "More Awesome Than You PAY PLUS!", an obvious reference to [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].
*The main logo has a picture of [[Trogdor]] on it.
*Seven of the sub-forums are marked as been in the "[[Trogdor|Burnination]]" parent forum. One of the child forums in the "Burnination" parent forum is entitled "[[Peasantry]]". Another is titled "[[theme park|Bowels of Trogdor]]". Yet another is titled "[[Planet K]] [[20X6]]". A child forum under the "Peasantry" forum is "Made-Up Animals", with the description: "[[animal|If you were a sim, what would you like as if?]]". The description for the "Playsets & Toys" forum references the catchphrase of the [[Cheat Commandos]].
*Several phrases used are similar, or based on Homestar Runner phrases. Examples include: "Game exploding in a [[pom pom|big fiery ball that is visible from space]]" and "[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|GameCube is no place for a mighty warrior.]]"
*One of the available objects is the Trogdor topiary from [[Weclome Back]] ([http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,5284.msg151811.html#msg151811]).
*Part of the forum footer reads "[[Powered by The Cheat]]".
*Another available object is the [[Store Toys#Kick The Cheat|Kick The Cheat]] toy ([http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,6188.0.html]).
*A member is named Li'l Brudder and has an avatar of Li'l Brudder and a signature containing Li'l Brudder quotes ([http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2200]).

== Natrium42.com ==
In [http://natrium42.com/blog/?p=36 a blog post], Natrium42 uses [[dragon]] as the test Flash file for porting [http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/ GPLFlash] to the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo DS|Nintendo DS]].

== Neglected Characters ==
*[http://www.smbhq.com/nc/ This] is a site where the Neglected Characters of Mario games are honored. One of them, [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/guide.html Dr. Donez], answers questions regularly (much like [[Strong Bad Email]]) at [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/askdrd.html Ask Dr. Donez].
**In [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/e501600.html question 595], [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v14011500.html question 1412], and [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v18011900.html question 1842] he gets asked how he types with boxing gloves on his hands, which he responds differently each time.
*In one of Bowser's [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/election/radical/bowser/speeches.html speeches], Koopa asks Bowser, "How do you know Trogdor?" and he replies "We went to Burniniation classes together."

== Neopets ==
*[http://www.neopets.com Neopets] released a new avatar with the caption "Your Lupe A Splode" which is an obvious reference to [[video games]] and [[StrongBadZone]].
[[Image:Yourlupeasplode.gif]]
*In this avatar, the caption reads "Garlic'd!" at the end, an obvious Teen Girl Squad reference.
[[Image:Runaway garlic.gif]]
*Another avatar features a Scorchio (a dragon-like Neopet) with the caption "Burninate!", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].
[[Image:Scordrax.gif]]
*Neopets also has an avatar reserved for theneopetsteam, a staff username, which references the "a splode."
[[Image:Tntasplode.gif]]
*There is also a Petpet Laboratory, that can change your Petpet's image, and one thing that can happen is your Petpet's name can change to [[So and So]].
*This Neopian Times article [http://www.neopets.com/newnt/index.phtml?section=15085&week=124] has the phrase "How do you type with boxing gloves on?"

== NES Buckle ==
*On [http://www.nesbuckle.com/userpics.php this site], one person is wearing a Teen Girl Squad Shirt.

== NES Horsemen ==
*On [http://www.neshorsemen.com/ this site], [http://www.neshorsemen.com/oreview.html this page] has several references, including a variation on the "dot dot dot" quote from [[Under Construction]] and a reference to the [[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] ("featuring the most polygonal of technoligies"). [[20X6]] is also mentioned.

==Newgrounds==
Newgrounds user Shadow-Panda [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/232855 made a music video of Ebay] by [[Wikipedia:Wierd Al|Weird Al]], has a picture of Homestar as one of the items bought off of Ebay, out of its box as the camera pans through the items.

There is a game called "Homestar Hunt" on Newgrounds, where you chase Homestar and shoot him.

== Nintendojo ==
As an April Fools prank, Nintendojo put up a [http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1143867894 fake list of characters] for the upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl. [[Trogdor]] is among the characters listed.

== NoSlang.com ==
The [http://www.noslang.com NoSlang.com] [http://www.noslang.com/spelling.php "commonly misspelled words"] page has a statement saying, "Since not everybody owns a copy of '[[local news#Easter Eggs|Strong Bad's Rythm  N' Grammar]],' we've tried to do our part to help by compiling a list of common internet misspellings." It also posted a "Happy Birthday Trogdor" link from January 13th through January 16th, 2006. And, in the Internet Slang Dictionary, one of the user-submitted words is h*r, meaning "[[homestar runner]]"

== [http://oldeenglish.org Olde English] ==
In their [http://www.oldeenglish.org/podcast/general-procrastination General Procrastination] sketch, Raizin was holding off going to battle by going on the internet and watching the new [[Strong Bad Email]]. (which really wasn't even an email, he opened up the Strong Bad bio 'toon and the email menu.)

==OrbiTouch==
On the website for [http://www.keybowl.com/kb/index?page=benefits OrbiTouch], a new, safe way to type, they mention that you can "Type with Boxing Gloves On" in the lower right-hand side of one of their pages.

==Panda Smash==

At 01:20 of [http://www.pandasmash.com/video.php?epi_id=134 A Tribute to Every Video Site], the scene shows the man and woman as [[Strong Bad]] and [[Marzipan]].

==Peanut Foot==
This flash [http://www.peanutfoot.net website] has many referecnes to Homestar in the old flash section, including a series called Carrot Quest which is mainly pictures from Peasant's Quest with characters from Peanut Foot to the tune of the Peasant's Quest theme. It also has has Homestar show up in multiple toons, and in one episode of the series "Red State Banjo", the main character shouts "What the pfargtl?!?!".

==Plush Puffs==

[http://www.plushpuffs.com/ Plush Puffs] list [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]], [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], and [[Meet Marshie]] as Company Training Videos on their [http://www.plushpuffs.com/aboutus/index.html about us page].

==Polas' Goodtime Retro Cafe==
In the [http://www.goodtimeretrocafe.com/other/commodore.html Commodore 64 "Classics"] review, [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]] lyrics are used as the opening paragraph for the review of the game Thantos.

==Progressive Boink==
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/christmas100/index1.html The 100 Greatest Christmas Shows] list, the Homestar Runner Decemberween toons are grouped together and ranked at #79.
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/costumes/ The 50 Worst Halloween Costumes] list, Strong Bad is among those as "Any costume that may lead to poor voice impressions".
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/videogames/kyle.html Kyle's Top 20 Video Games] list (part of the site's [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/videogames/ 100 Favorite Video Games]), Kyle criticizes the voices of the enemies in Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (his 9th favorite game) as sound "identical to Strong Bad".
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/hotties/jonhotties.htm Jon's Top 20 Most Beautiful Women] list (part of the site's ([http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/hotties/ 100 Most Beautiful Women: 2003]), Jon describes his #1 pick, Shakira, as being famous for "the ability to sing like both a Latina schoolgirl and Homsar in the same verse."
*The entry for [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/ihbfd/cheese.htm Cheese] (from the cartoon series "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends") in the [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/ihbfd.htm Internet Hanna-Barbera Fashion Database] describes the show as being "located just down the block from Trogdor the Burninator and across the street from Juggernaut calling people b****es."
*In a review of [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/lambchopchanukah.html Lamb Chop's Special Chanukah], the character Charlie Horse's use of a computer is compared to Strong Bad in the form of an e-mail asking how he types with hooves on his hands. The e-mail is signed, "crapfully yours, crapface mccrappington, asbury park, nj."
*[http://hyspace.progressiveboink.com/volvagia.html Volvagia's HySpace profile] lists two reasons why he was revived by Ganondorf, one of them is to "burninate the countryside."
*On the final page of [http://progressiveboink.com/archive/robliefeld4.html Rob Liefeld's 40 worst drawings] the author notes, "We’ll ignore the elephantine Strong Sad leg that he’s given Franklin Richards in the first panel."

==Pure Pwnage ==
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[[Image:Purepwnage_email.jpg|thumb|Jeremy from Pure Pwnage]]At the beginning of episode 10, Jeremy answers e-mails in the exact same style as Strong Bad does. The computer used says "[[Compy 386]]" in the corner.

http://www.purepwnage.com/ (WARNING: Contains language and derogatory terms!)

== PVP Online ==
[[Pan Pan]] shows up in a panda line-up on [http://www.pvponline.com/article/2696/Fri-Apr-21 pvponline.com], done by guest artist [http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ Howard Taylor].

== Rareware.com ==
In the [http://www.rareware.com/extra/scribes/24dec03/index.html December 24, 2003 edition] of the letters page Scribes, one letter states:

<blockquote>Can you answer emails in Flash like [[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad]] does? I think it would be funny because we could all hear you speak with an [[sb_email 22|English]] accent, which us North Americans find amusing. :) Also, we could hear you groan when you get a bad one, like those other e-mails you get... you know, the ones that aren't sent by me.</blockquote>

The response:
<blockquote>''British'' accent, Arse, ''British'' accent. Anyway, no. That would be a terrible error.</blockquote>

== Real Ultimate Power ==
Parodies of [http://www.realultimatepower.net '''''Real Ultimate Power'''''] are everywhere. A fan [http://www.geocities.com/viggler/trogdor.html made one] featuring TROGDOR.

== Red vs Blue ==
*At [http://www.redvsblue.com Red vs Blue] they made a public service announcement about tattoos (It appears every 4 weeks or so in the season 1 archive). When Church suggests you get a tattoo of your favorite character from your favorite online comic (obviously referring to himself), Strong Bad's face appears on-screen instead.
*A Strong Bad and a Homestar sticker is also seen during the Red vs. Blue segment in the Halo 2 Limited Collectors Edition DVD, on the window of a door.

== RiffTrax ==
*In the [[Wikipedia:RiffTrax|RiffTrax]] for the movie [http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/eragon Eragon], upon seeing a cottage on fire, [[Wikipedia:Kevin Murphy|Kevin Murphy]] quips "Another burninated victim of TROGDOR!"
*And in the [http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/batman-and-robin Batman and Robin] Rifftrax, when they are placing the mask on Bane's face, [[Wikipedia:Bill Corbett|Bill Corbett]] states "Next they're going to put boxing gloves on him and force him to read emails," in an obvious reference to the ever popular sbemail feature. It should be noted that particular Rifftrax was written by the fans.
*In the RiffTrax of the Harrison Ford movie [http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/firewall Firewall], [[Wikipedia:Mike Nelson|Mike Nelson]] quips as Harrison Ford works at a computer, "Now that I've watched every single [[Strong Bad Email]]..."

== RinkWorks Graffiti ==
Homestar is referenced twice on the [http://www.rinkworks.com/ RinkWorks] [http://www.rinkworks.com/graffiti graffiti pages].
*The text "[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|Baleted]]" can be seen [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=12 here].
*An image of Strong Bad has been crudely pasted in to all the other crazy stuff going on [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=14 here].

== Rocketboom ==
* On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/03/rb_05_mar_15.html 3/15/2005] episode, we see a clip of the [[SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005|March 14th SXSW Panel]] and Amanda interviewing Homestar.
*On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/12/rb_05_dec_05.html 12/5/05] episode of the v-log [http://www.rocketboom.com/ Rocketboom], Amanda Congdon is wearing a Homestar Runner shirt.
*On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/04/rb_06_apr_12.html 4/12/2006] episode, after Amanda reports about a human clock, she comments that she still likes her [[Strong Bad Clock]] better.

== Sam & Max Season One ==
On the [http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax/faq FAQ page for the new Sam & Max games], Homestar Runner is mentioned--praised, even.

== The Schumin Web ==
The [http://www.schuminweb.com/ splash page] for November 2005 showed an image of Ben Schumin dressed up as [[The Thnikkaman]]. The same image also appears in the [http://www.schuminweb.com/schumin-web/archives/splash-page.asp Splash Page Archives].

== ScrewAttack ==
On the Number Two worst for the [http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26918.html E For All Top Ten Best and Worst], the Stinkoman theme is heard playing in the background.

== Shenmue II : The Gang Edition ==
In the fan-movie [http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/%7Eshenmuedojo/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14850&sid=4d196b2cc178187c5528f347a593e744 Shenmue II : The Gang Edition], when Ryo arrives at Guilin, he is distracted by a The Cheat Talking Plush Doll, which is the guardian of the village where Shenhua lives. 
Later, Ryo kicks the Plush Doll, making it complain.

==Shirt.Woot==
The description for the shirt [http://shirt.woot.com/ "pencildellic"] was entitled "my head asplode" on Thursday September 27, 2007

== Shoot the Cliché ==
Trogdor appears as one of the clichés in this game from [http://www.anothersite.co.uk another site].
[http://www.anothersite.co.uk/news.php?artc=131& Click here] to play the game.

==Smash Bros. MOJO!!==
For this Super Smash Bros. Brawl parody site, The King of Town is listed as a [http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/en_us/characters/kingoftown.html playable character], and he is referenced from the game [[Super Kingio Bros.]]

[http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/en_us/characters/paint_pixel.html Another] playable character, Paint Pixel, is seen surrounded by many characters in a screenshot. One of these characters is [[Trogdor]].

== Something Awful ==
{{sitelanguagenotice}}
Strong Bad, Homestar, Strong Mad, The Cheat and Marzipan appear as grotesque caricatures in [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/tub-bites-vol.php Tub Bites vol. 2.]. The computer used in the toon appears to be a parody of the [[Compy 386]]. The first email is "[[DELETED|Recycle Binned!]]". Homestar returns Strong Bad's "80's reference" (a ''[[Wikipedia:Tag Team Wrestling|Tag Team Wrestling]]'' cartridge), as well as some of his "[[Crap|crappy]] catchphrases" (the one used as an example is "[[Crap#Holy Crap! and Other Exclamations|holy crap!]]"). Also, this is reprised with an obvious parody of a "[[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]]"-style Strong Bad e-mail in [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/karnov-playset-2.php?page=5 Karnov Bites].
*The Easter egg in Tub Bites 2 is a parody of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], featuring calls from parodies of Strong Bad, the King of Town, Homsar, Coach Z and Strong Sad.

The update of March 1, 2007, [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/movie-reviews/steve-movie-blog.php Steve's Movie Review Blog], contains reference to the [[Strong Bad Email]]s. The article is written as if the writer is unfamiliar with internet trends; he writes that he just discovered the site, thinks the cartoon's title is "The Strong Bads", and thinks its web address is www.strongbad.com.

Homestar appears in [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/internet-cartoon-2000.php Funny Housemates 2] and [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/housemates-cartoon-3.php Funny Housemates 999]. He looks like Homestar, but acts more like Homsar.

== South Park Studios ==
Somebody at South Park Studios is a fan, as a January 28, 2006 [http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_faq_search.php?section=2&id=38887&search_faq= FAQ update] contains the following:

'''Q. - How do you type with boxing gloves on?''' A. - I'm sorry, this is "Ask South Park" not "Ask StrongBad ''(sic)''."

== the show with zefrank ==
On the [http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/09/090706.html September 7, 2006 episode] of [http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/ the show], zefrank included a link to [[duck pond]] as a "silly thing".

Moreover, on the [http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/05/050106.html May 1, 2006 episode], the game can be seen on zefrank's monitor in the background.

There's also an obvious reference to Strong Bad [http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/10/102406.html here].

== Stinkoman 20X6 on VGMusic.com ==
*[http://www.vgmusic.com VGMusic.com] have done a remix of some of the Stinkoman 20X6 soundtrack. However, since VGMusic doesn't allow direct linking to MIDI files, the creator has put them up on his website for download. The links can be found here:
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelselect.mid Level Select]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelstart.mid Level Start]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level1.mid Level 1]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_boss.mid Boss Theme]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level2.mid Level 2]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level8.mid Level 8]
These files were sequenced by Tyler Prevost.

== The Straight Dope ==
The StrongBadZone was submitted for [http://www.straightdope.com/columns/ Weird Earl's] on [http://www.straightdope.com/ The Straight Dope], a category featuring strange and/or awesome sites.

== Stick RPG 2 ==
On the [http://www.stickrpg2.com/news.php#1147888194 news post for May 17], there is a line that says "what are you using, a 386?", with "386" being a link to [[invisibility]].

==Stick Shorts==
On [http://www.freewebs.com/stickshortsbyjonny/index.htm this site], [http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JYsu4eoTuI episode 11] includes a short that is about a guy who sees Homestar, and kicks him, which results in Homestar falling on the guy. This is also a coincidence, since this series is created by [http://www.freewebs.com/tehcartoonistproductions/ Teh Cartoonist Productions] like Charlie Clay and the Clay Crew. Even the Homestar sprite is the same as the one used in Charlie Clay.

== Strong Bad Pilots an F/A-22 Raptor ==
For a short time, Strong Bad could be seen on the Lockheed Martin [http://www.f22-raptor.com/ F/A-22 Raptor Team Web Site] [[:Image:sbf22.png|F/A-22 Raptor]].

==Suave==
[http://www.suave.net/~dave/trogdor.cgi This Suave page] is about Trogdor, Strong Bad, and The Cheat.

== Superdickery.com ==
*In a "Bizzaro letters" segment, one guy writes "Dear Strongbad: How do you type with boxing gloves on?" [http://www.superdickery.com/gabliam4-16.html]
*Also, the creator says "head a'splode" in a little blurb following [http://www.superdickery.com/other/256.html this comic cover]

== Technopets ==
On [http://technopets00.tripod.com technopets00.tripod.com], in the tpemail [http://technopets00.tripod.com/id36.html Icons], the e-mail message at the bottom says "Email me. Bad emails will be burninated, er burned"

== Templelooters.com ==
*On the July 30th, 2007 column on the Ask Mandy column on the Billy and Mandy-fan-site-part of Templelooters.com, ([http://www.templelooters.com/evil/am073007.asp]) someone asks
<blockquote>Dear Mandy, 
[[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]] 
[[Crapfully Yours]], 
[[User:Sephiroth|Sephiroth]] from the H*R Wiki. 
</blockquote>

Mandy answers, "I give up. How DO you type with boxing gloves on?"

*On the August 13, 2007 column, Mandy receives an email by a person claiming to be the [[King Of Town]].

<blockquote>
Oh, hello, Mandy. This is the King of Town. Doo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo. Uh, I just emailed you to tell you that, Josh N is not the guy 
who you all of these emails asking to make fun of Brandi Ervan,okay? Uh, it was me all along! Doo, diddy hoo, diddy hoo, diddy hoo. 
Um, so next time you see me, give me a kick in the shins! And next time you see Josh N, give him a list of why Cookie (from the
 
cancelled Rayman TV series) worrys about everything in the world and should be claimed an official Ogdenite, and a very rare Rayman TV 
series videotape, why don't you? Um, okay, I have to go eat everything on it, especially [[whatsit]] and lose my lunch, because I'm the 
King of Town. Doo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo.
</blockquote>

== The Morning News ==
In an [http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/how_to/tricks_of_the_trade.php article] where they outline 30 tricks from 30 different trades; under cartographer it details this trick: Mapmakers will often use “copyright traps,” bits of information in their maps that are purposefully wrong. They might label a body of water '''“Lake Strongbad,”''' for instance, and then examine the next editions of competitors’ maps to see if the incorrect information makes an appearance.

==The-Coolest-Stuff-Ever.com==
[http://the-coolest-stuff-ever.com]This website is an obvious reference to homestarrunner.com. The name and main page both come from the Strong Bad Email [[credit card]], and they also have an Easter egg with a fan-made, Homestar Runner Space Invaders game.

== ThinkGeek ==
*[http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/722a/action/2111db4/ There is a picture on one page] showing some plastic toys dressed up for Halloween. One of the toys is dressed up as Strong Bad (or, as they call him, "Strong Bob").
*[http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/91f2/ At the bottom of another page], a Kick The Cheat doll is shown in a short video.
*[http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/9505/ The advertisement for one of ThinkGeek's t-shirts] includes an image with handwriting that causes the shirt to read "im in ur MEDIEVAL VILLAGE BURNINATing ur PEASANTS".
*[http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/posters/a42d/images/2742/ A recruitment poster] for Battlestar Galactica's military has the caption "Do You Has?", referring to the [[Homestarmy]].

== TV Squad ==

[[Wikipedia:Wil Wheaton|Wil Wheaton]] mentions a [[Flask|load-bearing flask]] in a [http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/02/12/star-trek-the-next-generation-the-battle/ Star Trek review].

== [http://tvtropes.org TV Tropes Wiki] ==
*The TV Tropes Wiki has an [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomestarRunner article] about Homestar Runner.
*It is also [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SearchWiki?text=Homestar&pagename=Main%2FSearchWiki often mentioned] when examples of tropes are needed.

== Uncyclopedia==
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*On the ever-popular factually-inaccurate encyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia], the VfD (vote for deletion) template reads "Baleeted! This article is total crap. Please VFD."
*The template for articles that contain too much information reads: "This article contains way too much information. Absorbing all of it may cause one's head to asplode. You can help Uncyclopedia by removing stuff."
**A second template simply reads: "THIS ARTICLE A SPLODE", which is one of Uncyclopedia's dozens of inside jokes. Alas, the picture for it refers to ''Scanners''.
* In [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Errors.png this image], one of the error messages is the "[[:Image:this is real.png|Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined.]]" error from [[50 emails]].
* One of the user awards includes [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Burninator Burninator].
*In the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Recentnews Recentnews] template, one of the news items reads that "An astremely astonishing asperiment has show that acessive asposure to '''[[StrongBadZone|Strong Bad Zone]]''' has an astraordinarily affect on grammar."
*If you attempt to restore [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork/File_1 File 1] of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork Zork], you have some [[Grumblecakes]] in your inventory. You are also wearing the [[Kerrek]]'s belt.
*Fake (or at least, mostly fake) descriptions of the characters have been entered.
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner Homestar Runner]''': "A prolific actor (famous for playing the role of [[Matt Chapman]] in the 2000 movie "Flash Cartoonists")"
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Strong_Bad Strong Bad]''': One of "the most notable and prolific singer/songwriters of the past decade".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Coach_Z Coach Z]''': "An athletic genius" and "a prolific writer and rapper".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pom_Pom Pom Pom]''': "A large, balloon-like alien from the planet Inflatrosis".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Trogdor_the_Burninator Trogdor]''': "The son of the Friendly Giant and Puff, The Magic Dragon".
*[[homsar]] has been "sporked" from this Wiki (see [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homsar here]). There is also an article on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Tandy_400 Tandy 400], as well as one on [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner_Wiki this Wiki].
*[[50K RaceWalker]] is listed as the 43rd [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Worst_100_Computer_Games_of_All_Time worst computer game of all time].
*There are [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows/25#Category_.CF.80:_The_World_Wide_CoWeb 5 Homestar Runner variations] of the phrase "[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows You have two cows]", as well as a [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows/11 Coach Z] variation.
*The start of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Game_Online Game Online] is a direct rip-off of the start of [[Thy Dungeonman]].
*Three of the choices for [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Monster the monster template] are "a [[The Yello Dello|Yello Dello]]", "a cavalry of [[dongrel]]s" and "a [[bear holding a shark]]".
*Two of the choices on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Random/killed random "killed by" template] are "[[Trogdor|burninated]]" and "[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|BALEETED!]]"
*The page on [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nowhere Nowhere] starts with the [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning#Flagrant System Error|Flagrant System Error]] message.
*The [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Beowulf.jpg Beowulf image] has Strong Bad (with [[Ab-Abber 2000|abs]], a [[keyswordtar]], and a [[horned helmet]]) and The Cheat (again, with a horned helmet) teaming up to fight Trogdor.
*On the article about the made-up superhero , [[Uncyclopedia: Captain Obvious|Captain Obvious]], a picture of Homsar is there, and his shirt is depicted as "One of the shirts custom made by Captain Obvious."
*[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Do_NOT_click_any_links%21/click61 This page], part of a clicking game, reads "THIS PAGE HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN BY THE NCAA FOR [[Commandos in the Classroom|SEVERE CUSSING AND VERY ILLEGAL PONYFIGHTS]]."
*If you get banned, It says "Baninated", witch refers to [[Trogdor|burninate]]
*On Uncyclopedia's [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Christianity#Jesus.27_opinion article on Christianity], Trogdor is "the logo of Jesus' personal choice."
*[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Adobe.jpg Adobe.jpg], "Another happy Photoshop user," has one of the Strong Bad freebie patches Photoshopped.
*For the "On this day..." section on the Uncyclopedia Main Page on March 22nd, 2008, one of the items listed was under the year "20X6", and linked to [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/20X6#20X6|this page (without the anchor, however)]

== Uni Watch ==
*Uni Watch, a blog devoted to following the trends of sports logos, jerseys, and other sports-related designs, links to the e-mail [[redesign]] in the December 1 blog entry "Keep Your [[Pants]] On". The "little animation", as it is referred to, is mentioned as a "good commentary on logo updates". [http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2006/12/01/keep-your-pants-on/]

== Urban Dictionary ==
On July 1st, 2005, the main page "word of the day" on Urban Dictionary was biz cas fri. (It is misspelled as "bis cas fri.") [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bis+cas+fri&defid=801385]

Various other phrases and words are defined on the site (with varying degrees of accuracy in spelling and content) such as [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Teen+Girl+Squad Teen Girl Squad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Strong+Bad Strong Bad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homestar+runner Homestar Runner], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fhgwhgads fhqwhgads],
[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pfargtl Pfargtl], and
[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Somebody+get+this+freaking+duck+away+from+me "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!"].

== Variousimmers ==
On [http://www.variousimmers.net this site] dedicated to modding [[Wikipedia:The Sims 2|The Sims 2]], two of the objects are a [[Painting of a Guy with a Big Knife]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=518 here]), and a Strong Bad [[monument]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=1568 here]).



== VG Mix ==
[http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=615 Here] there is a remix of the first racing tune from Rad Racer (which is also Stinkoman's theme). The title references to [[japanese cartoon]] and the song itself contains quotes from said e-mail.

== Visitmypiczosite.piczo.com ==
*On Life On Sedna's Weekly Fanstuff for [http://pic2.piczo.com/Visitmypiczosite/?g=23116139 The Last Week Of August], the official logo for Life On Sedna (See Comic Sightings) is drawn on a whiteboard. Also, a funny drawing of Homestar is there.


== Wikipedia ==
* In Wikipedia's April Fool's Day Article 2005, Homestar in his Daisy Dukes was eventually added to the somewhat lengthy Wikipedia April Fool's Day 2005 article detailing a hostile takeover of Wikipedia by Encyclopedia Britannica. He was part of Wikipedia's "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11827614#New_corporate_structure new corporate structure]" as the Minister of Long Pants. He was then pictured lower on the page in the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11828885#Immediate_aftermath Immediate Aftermath]" section, then moved to the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11833150#Related_Information Related Information]" section, then finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11833471 dropped] altogether. The page as it exists now can be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:April_1%2C_2005/2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia here], and the edit history for the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&action=history here]. Strong Bad was also named Minister of Deleting email, and is found directly under Homestar's listing.

*On another April Fools Day, the deleted tab on the home page was renamed "baleeted".

== Xgenstudios ==
In one of the websites games called "Graffiti" one of the example pictures contains a dragon that looks very similar to, or is, Trogdor.The dragon(Trogdor) is also breathing a flame that is similar to Trogdors way of Burninating.

== xkcd ==

In the [http://xkcd.com/341/ Nov 12, 2007] installment of the webcomic ''xkcd'', a character asks "How does she type with oven mitts!?"

== X-treme Geek ==

The word 'fangoriously' appears on [http://www.x-tremegeek.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?productID=12406 a page selling Venus Fly Traps].

== YouTube ==
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*While [http://youtube.com YouTube] was down for maintenance on August 17, 2006, pictures of the youtube offices were posted on the youtube homepage. Two of them showed a Kick The Cheat doll. [[:Image:Cheattube1.jpg|photo 1]], [[:Image:Cheattube2.jpg|photo 2]].
*[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPCkhYMQgY This video] which was featured on You Tube's main page shows Homestar and says "Homestar Runner on a misson" at about 1 minute in.
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Ez0uijGAI This video] on a [[Wikipedia:Wii Shop Channel|Wii Shop Channel]] hack has the background music as [[The System is Down (song)|The System is Down]] some of the comments notably replied relating to the song saying: "WTF is this song called? its freaking awsome?," and, "one of the oddest songs i have ever heard" some comments include various questions of where it is from, while some clearly remember it from the e-mail, and some complaints, which can all be viewed [http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=G-Ez0uijGAI&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DG-Ez0uijGAI here].
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC3n-LC3Em4 FALCOR - the URiNATOR], a parody of TROGDOR, was featured on July 16, 2007, shortly after is was released on the 12th. Coincidentally, it was featured on a Monday. I quickly got over 25 video responses, and has 1,307,406 views as of October 15, and now has 60 video responses. It has gotten over 19,000 clicks from links on webpages. It also holds the #12 slot on "Most Discussed (All Time) - Pets & Animals." It has recently gotten a ringtone version. The e-mail is mentioned as his inspiration the the description.
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaDUskLtRhU Mario Paint renditions], a compilation of Mario Paint segments, shows one of them being Homestar Runner slowly running, with an attempt at the [[Intro|Intro song]] done in Mario Paint as background music to the animation, and the theme to [[Stinkoman 20X6]].
*[http://www.youtube.com/sherifam Sherifam's] videos make reference to Homestar Runner.
**The first one being the Tait-imation theatre videos. The first one ever created featured Tait beating Homestar senseless with knumchucks, a reference to [[Fall Float Parade]]. At the end of this cartoon, Homestar says as he goes flying into a probable hammerspace, "And that's how I became a law!", a reference to [[4 branches]].
**Tait-imation being Kobatsu Emails, an obvious parody of Strong Bad Emails, in which Kobatsu, a chibi animated version of Tait with no arms on, checks his email. In result of it being bad, it gets [[DELETED]].
**Second video series is the Cal Email Show (or C-mails, an obvious reference to "sbemails"), of which Cal, the main operator of the channel, answers emails. In the 2nd and most recent, Prank mail, he gets asked [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?|a familiar question]] and results in a [[DELETED|familiar answer]].
*There are also two videos on youtube, entitled "The Man with 100 Voices" and "The Man of 101 Voices" respectively. Both feature Homestar Runner impersonations.
**Video 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMV0fHinHaA numbers 48 to 52
**Video 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5CmqC1E-Ag&feature=related Numbers 91 to 95
*There are various user accounts active on YouTube with Homestar Runner references in their account names, such as [http://youtube.com/user/Burnin8r55555| Burnin8r55555].
*[http://youtube.com/profile?user=HomeStarRunnerTron| User HomeStarRunnerTron], whose real name Skie, has many references to the Homestar Runner Body of work in his uploaded videos. Some notable reference include [http://youtube.com/watch?v=wYezCYY46ZM|this video], which includes Skie doing some of the voices he used for the Pokémon Abridged Series, with his test sentence being "[[radio|The fish was delish and it made quite a dish.]]". One of his Pokémon Abridged Series episodes, taken down due to a Terms of Use Violation, included a scene where Professor Oak, Officer Jenny, Nurse Joy, and Ash's Mom, "nodded in agreement" to Skie's voiceover comments. He then repeated the scene except all of them were wearing Dangeresque glasses, and Oak was wearing a Homestar Runner Shirt. 

== ytmnd ==
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Many Homestar Runner-related [http://ytmnd.com You're The Man Now, Dog] pages have been [http://ytmnd.com/search?q=homestar&x=0&y=0 created], such as [http://hatesomuch.ytmnd.com/ this one], which involves the [[Cheat Commandos]], [http://hr10versary.ytmnd.com/ this one] which is an anniversary site, [http://homestarspin.ytmnd.com/ this one], which includes a scene from [[dangeresque 3]], and [http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=freakin+duck these], which all reference [[Main Page 13]]. <s>[http://missingno.ytmnd.com/ OH NOOOOOOES!!! MISSINGNO!]</s>[http://web.archive.org/web/20060304101602/http://missingno.ytmnd.com/ (cache)] had one of the [[System Sounds]] looping.

==Zingtech==
The [http://www.zingtech.com/features/painting/ paintings] section of the website features an acrylic painting entitled [[Painting of a Guy with a Big Knife|"Guy With a Big Knife"]].

[[Category:Sightings]]

Comic Sightings

Bellstrom — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:31:33 GMT

Bellstrom: /* The Karnak Hates Everthing Show */ *sighs*

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== 1019 ==
Halfway through the [http://www.fireball20xl.com/1019 review] of the game [http://www.fireball20xl.com/1019/wario-ware/1019-smooth-moves.mp3 Wario Ware: Smooth Moves], Homestar is quoted "No, I'm sorry. The correct answer... was email.", an obvious reference to [[Main Page 19]].

== 3rd Party Fantasy ==
*In [http://www.drunkduck.com/3rd_Party_Fantasy/index.php?p=25083 comic 41], Rem the mouse demon utters the word "[[Fhqwhgads|Fhgwhgads]]" [''sic''].

*In [http://www.drunkduck.com/3rd_Party_Fantasy/index.php?p=55134 comic 120], Master Mayer makes reference to [[Trogdor|Trogdor]] when he shouts "By Trogdor's Second Arm" [''sic''].

== 8-bit Theater ==
*A dark elf explains how evil a monster is, and Trogdor comes to mind. [http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030520 Episode 284: What could it be?!]
*A [http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=050517 guest artist strip] contains Thief wearing a Strong Bad mask.


== Accidental Centaurs ==
*In a crossover with The Wotch on March 26, 2005, The Wotch's Robin (transformed into a dragon) shouts "BURNINATE!!" as he breathes fire at some winged monkeys. [http://www.accidentalcentaurs.com/archive.php?iid=20041079&ep=4]
*In a comic dated Wednesday, August 24, 2005, Lenny borrows a line from Senor Cardgage. [http://www.accidentalcentaurs.com/image.php?iid=20041206]

==[http://www.bzpower.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=128372 Akano's Comics]==
*The "Game Show" series has a slight resemblance to [[The Show]].
*In Comic 13 line "What part of meet him at the stick were we wrong about?" is a reference to [[Where's the Cheat?]]
*The format of Comic 20 is similar to [[Strong Bad E-mail]].
*Comic 27's last frame is similar to "I really got, I really gotta pee" from [[extra plug]].
*In Comic 35, [[Trogdor]] is mentioned.
*In Comic 44, Akano's crying is similar to Homestar's crying over [[Li'l Brudder]], and [[Tendafoot]] is mentioned.
*Comic 65 is "When Bionicle and Homestar Runner Collide."
*Comic 67 references Strong Bad E-mail.
*Comic 71 has a similar "Pardon Our Problems" screen as the Fall Float Parade.
*There are several instances of [[-'d]].

== Aminal Crossing ==
*In the [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/ac/?pic=016.png 16th comic], "Were taking this baby to the mooooon!" is a reference to Strong Bad Email [[personal favorites]].
*Also, in [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/ac/?pic=022.gif Episode 22], the main character gets MONKEY SLAM'D!! an unmistakable TGS reference.

==Arby the Archer ==

In Episode 7, the miner is "ARROWED!" and in episode 8 a mine Botter is "WHIPPED!" by a [GM].
== Awfully Generic ==
Comic #39 is entitled "Class, please welcome our new student. She's from Foreign Lands." [http://awfullygeneric.comicgenesis.com/d/20070203.html]

== Badly Drawn Kitties ==
*In the [http://www.badlydrawnkitties.com/OldComics/20030528_gif_view.htm May 28, 2003] strip, Lucy dresses as Marzipan in one panel during a makeover. The artist then credits the Brothers Chaps as artists who hate him now.
*In the [http://www.badlydrawnkitties.com/OldComics/20031029_gif_view.htm October 29, 2003] strip, Dirk dresses up as Homestar Runner.

== Breakpoint City ==
*Homestar Runner is waiting in line in the [http://www.breakpointcity.com/archives/2002/07/20/ July 20, 2002] strip.
*[[Bronco Trolleys]] are referenced in the [http://www.breakpointcity.com/archives/2002/08/14/ August 14th, 2002] strip.
*Trogdor also appears on a sign "Live with Regis and Trogdor" in a later strip. [http://www.breakpointcity.com/archives/2003/06/14/]
*A Homestar star t-shirt is being used by one character in the [http://www.breakpointcity.com/archives/2003/06/30/ June 30, 2003] strip.
*A Homestar action figure (or something) is seen behind the TV Ben is watching in the [http://www.breakpointcity.com/archives/2003/07/19/ July 19, 2003] strip.

== Bruno the Bandit ==
In the third panel of [http://www.brunothebandit.com/d/20040825.html this] comic, one character mentions Strong Badia.

== Captain SNES ==
In the comic for [http://captainsnes.com/?date=20040321 March 21st, 2004], Mother Brain asks King Hippo how he can type with boxing gloves on his hands.
==Cartridge Comics==
*In the comic entitled "[http://cartridgecomics.com/view.php?date=2006-10-23 Writing Back]", William the monkey is asked how do you type with boxing gloves on, and mistakes Strong Bad for [[Wikipedia:Nacho Libre|Nacho Libre]].
*In the comic entitled "[http://cartridgecomics.com/view.php?date=2006-12-18 Star Power]", Jerry is apparently playing [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]] badly on Guitar Hero II.

==Chaos Diamonds 3==
-At the bottom of each page it says: "By reading this you promise your soul and first child to me. All babies not ripe and plump are subject to burnination under the trogtor ''[sic]'' act of 2003."

-On page 283, one of the teams possible costumes is of Strong Bad.

== Clearwater Clan ==
The comic for [http://clearwaterclan.keenspace.com/d/20050624.html June 24th, 2005] shows the cast drawn as stick figures. One of them comes out looking like Trogdor.

== Comic Shorts ==
[http://www.maj.com/gallery/lave/ComicShorts/issue_1.png Issue 1] of Dragon Master's comics features DM checking his email while singing to himself like [[Strong Bad]]. 
In [http://www.maj.com/gallery/lave/ComicShorts/issue_17.png Issue 17], Label Buddy (the idiot who is killed quite often) is kicked in the face with the caption "KICKEDED!" in the following panel. 
In [http://www.maj.com/gallery/lave/ComicShorts/issue_33.png Issue 33], Label Buddy chokes on a speck of dirt and gets "HEIMLICH MANEUVER'D!" 
In [http://www.maj.com/gallery/lave/ComicShorts/issue_34.png Issue 34], he is "SHOTGUNNED!" 
Label Buddy faints with the caption, "FAINTED!" and is run over Halo style with the caption "SPLATTERED!" in [http://www.maj.com/gallery/lave/ComicShorts/issue_40.png Issue 40] 
Lekonua the intelligent robot gets "SHURIKENED!" in [http://www.maj.com/gallery/lave/ComicShorts/issue_42.png Issue 42]. 
[http://www.maj.com/gallery/lakonua/Comics/ComicLosers/sb_must_die.png This Comic] of Leko's is titled "Hit Strong Bad First" and the Brothers Chaps are number one on the hit list. 
One of the advertisement banners shows Label Buddy asking for his lines like Homestar does in [[First Time Here?]]

== Commander Kitty ==
A panel of [http://www.commanderkitty.com/ck.html Commander Kitty] features the character Mittens wearing a Strong Bad mask. (You will have to use the "next" button a number of times before finding the Strong Bad image.)

== Dark709's Comics (on BZpower)==
*In fan comic 18, Mr. Zimmwad gives Strong Bad's motivational speech about piemonade.
*Later in the same comic, a character is standing on a box labeled "Twelve of Them" much like the [[soapbox]] once was.

== Daily Routine ==
Comic #40 on [http://www.damagedgames.com/week6.html Week 6] has a reference from the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[fingers]]. The character, Hardhat is wearing the same arms as [[Homestar Runner]] wears in the said email. There's even a link to the email at the bottom of the comic for those who have never heard of Homestar Runner.

== DAMN ==
[http://www.fireball20xl.com/damn/index.php?id=4 Issue #4] - sonicstarrunner.com. Sonic the Hedgehog characters on a Homestar Runner [[Main Pages|Main Page]], which also makes a joke out of rapidly flicking the cursor over the buttons, causing multiple effects to occur on the screen.

[http://www.fireball20xl.com/damn/index.php?id=5 Issue #5] is almost exactly like a [[Strong Bad Email]], but with [[Wikipedia:Shadow the Hedgehog|Shadow the Hedgehog]] answering the emails.

== Dark Legacy Comics ==
In the [http://www.darklegacycomics.com/72.html weekly comic], one of the main characters tries to put in the name fhqwhgads for the player.

== Dave Kelly Central ==
In the [http://www.davekellycentral.com/d/20021002.html second comic], Strong Bad shows up to mock the size of Dave Kelly's ego.

== The Death & Return of Colossus ==
[http://www.richellemead.com/comic/comic-main.htm This] is a one-shot parody of the X-Men comics, drawn in stick-figure style. The second panel of the first page has Lockheed drawn to look like Trogdor.

== Digimon ==
In the fourth and final volume of the [[wikipedia: Tokyopop|Tokyopop]] manga adaptation of the third season of the ''[[wikipedia: Digimon| Digimon]]'' animated series, [[wikipedia: Rapidmon|Rapidmon]] utters [[What's Her Face]]'s classic line: "My blood hurts."

== DMFA ==
Trogdor can be seen in the first panel of [http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_309.php this] comic.

== Dominic Deegan ==
In the [http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2002-09-23 September 23,2002] comic, Strong Bad makes a cameo appearance as one of Dominic's customers in the last panel.

== Devstyle ==
[http://devstyle.com/extra.php?extra=dir_based&t=pinups&comic=14 Rude] is making fun of the compy 386. 
[http://devstyle.com/index.php?type=Comic&page=120 In Comic 91] Rude bumps in to Trogdor

== Droop ==
[http://www.nightgig.com/argh/droop/index.php?viewDate=20030910 This] issue of "Droop" features Homestar Runner popping up with the phrase "A Jorb Well Done".

== Digital Purgatory ==
In episode 19, [http://www.dp-comics.net/archives/19.htm "Dude, Shut the Hell Up"], of [http://www.dp-comics.net/index.htm "Digital Purgatory"], in the third and fourth panels, Trogdor appears on a whiteboard in the background.

== Dinosaur Comics ==
In a comic released [http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=811 July 17, 2006], Utahraptor mentions "fhqwhgads".

== Doc's Machine ==
On 2003-10-31, Doc's Halloween comic showed Pom-Pom in the bottom frame. [http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autowb220.html Here.]

== Dueling Analogs ==
The [http://www.duelinganalogs.com/?date=2006-10-31 October 31, 2006 comic] (entitled "Thatched-roof cottages!!!") features Strong Bad and Homestar discussing the inclusion of [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]] in the game [[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero II|Guitar Hero II]]. The news post below the comic mentions the [[HRWiki:About|Homestar Runner Wiki]].

== El Goonish Shive ==
Popular webcomic [[Wikipedia:El Goonish Shive|El Goonish Shive]] has made multiple references to Homestar Runner, both in filler comics. In [http://www.egscomics.com/Filler/d/20030927.html one], the comic's title "That Block-Thing is Gonna Give me Nightmares" references [[The Homestar Runner]]'s similar line in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]].

== Evil Inc ==
The author of [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/Fancomics/Evil/Evil.html "Evil Inc"] has said on the Bob and George forums that Satan being dressed up as Ichiro in comic #267 is a minor reference to Strong Bad dressing up as Homestar dressed up as Angus Young in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].

==Exterminatus Now==
On November 10th, 2006, a [http://exterminatusnow.comicgenesis.com/d/20061110.html drawing] of a flying, fire-breathing Trogdor was put up.

== F@NB0Y$ ==
The artist, Scott DeWitt is a Homestar Runner fan. One of the main characters, Lemmy, has it on his [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=5 iPod], Sylvia's friend [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=111 Kirstin] has Strong Bad on her bag, and there is a reference to Teen Girl Squad in his [http://www.fanboys-online.com/tutorial.htm drawing tutorial]. Also, after F@NBOY$ [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=40 won the Joystiq Wrap-up], and the cast thinks they're internet celebrities, Strong Bad is among those laughing at them.

After it was announced that Trogdor will be in Guitar Hero II, a comic was made in which the [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=95 gang plays air guitar and air bass].

A comic called [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=115 The Homestarmy] was made after it was found out about the wiki and his entry in the sightings. Strong Bad then instructs The Cheat to take out Lemmy with a sniper rifle.

[http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=45 Types (now in stereo)]. Paul is thinking of more ideas for the comic. He gives up and throws away the notepad. All it has on it are pictures of So and So, Cheerleader, The Ugly One and What's Her Face, respectively.

The first panel of [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=153 Intermission: Who Shot First?] shows Chess painting miniatures of an unspecified tabletop game, one of them is Strong Bad.

In the comic called [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=158 First Day on the Job Part 8] When the Xbox falls on Lemmy's head the boxes next to it are for Rhino Feeder and "Secret Collect 2", both have pictures of Strong Bad on the cover. There is also what appears to be a Homestar Runner keychain or pez dispenser in the last panel.

In the comic [http://www.fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=166 Popular Trends], in the final panel, which has a Muppet Babies parody, the blocks on the floor spell H*R, the abbreviation for [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]].

The title of the comic [http://www.fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=167 Meshing on the Trembolos] is a reference to the blurb that appears while [[Trogdor (song)]] loads on Guitar Hero II: "For squeadlies, mash on the trembalo"

In another example of "-'d" words, when the cat, driving the Buick, leaps off the 3rd ramp, it does a barrel roll, and the panel says [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=179 "BARREL ROLL'D"]

The title of the comic [http://www.fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=206 All Up On's] is a reference to [[All_up_ons|the recurring phrase]]. The corresponding news snippet for this particular comic also has an example of "-'d" words (in this case, "cash'd").

Scott makes a reference to [[Strong Bad Email]] when he talks about getting [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=210 "a zillion sbemails"].

In [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=124 Piece de Resistance], Paul is playing online and as he kills his enemies, they drop out of the game and one of them is named So and so.

[http://fanboys-online.com/mini.php?id=12 F@nboy$ Mini #12] starts off with a description of Mario as such: He's short, dumpy, chubby, silly-looking and always has a smile on his face. He is an OK guy." The last sentence is a reference to [[flashback]].

A [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=187 guest comic] done by webcomic [http://theslackerz.com Slackerz] used the word "cash'd", an example of -'d words.
*Cash'd was used again in [http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?cid=237 Shady Deals] when Paul bribes the grim reaper.

The first panel of [http://fanboys-online.com/mini.php?id=20 F@nb0y$ Mini #20] has Homestar's face on the microphone.

On December 10, 2007, when Scott Dewitt posted a comic about his writer's block, an updated blog post was put up and the previous one (which was basically everything stated in the comic that day) was replaced with "Baleeted"

The image file name for one of the smilies on his forum, "Krudsome," (his name on the forums and his email address is "Krudman") is "[http://forums.fanboys-online.com/Smileys/default/Mah_face.gif Mah_face]," a reference to [[the chair]].

== Final Stupidity ==
In the [http://www.jediburger.com/comics/finalstupidity/004.html fourth] comic, "Obligatory Pop Culture Reference," [[Dangeresque Too]] makes a small cameo on the last panel. 
The [http://www.jediburger.com/comics/finalstupidity/005.html fifth comic's] title, "Burninated", is an obvious reference to Trogdor. 
The [http://www.jediburger.com/comics/finalstupidity/007.html seventh comic's] title, "Got Witch's Brew?" is a reference to Homestar's obsession with witch's brew.

== GameCheetz ==
The seventh panel in [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Comic.php?comic=15692 comic #15692] is taken from [[Parsnips A-Plenty]]. 
[[Technochocolate]] is mentioned in the fifth panel of [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Comic.php?comic=00297 comic #00297].

== Get Blue Spheres ==
* In [http://www.fireball20xl.com/gbs/index.php?id=36 the 36th issue] of this Sprite Comic, Dr. Robotnik dresses up as Homestar Runner (Far Left), and Charmy Bee (Next To Robotnik) dresses up as Strong Bad.

== Girly ==
* In [http://go-girly.com/go/217 #217] of this comic, the racing game's game over screen says, "OH NOS YOU SPLODED!!", which may be a reference to [[StrongBadZone]].

== Hawkman ==
In the December 2003 issue of DC Comic's Hawkman (page 16 of issue 20, volume 4), an abusive spouse is seen wearing a black T-shirt featuring Strong Bad's face and gloves, and the text "FHGWHGAS." Unfortunately you'll have to pick up an old issue of the comic to see it. [http://www.dccomics.com/features/hawkman/]

== Here Is A Question ==
*[http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question28.gif Early on] in the question-based spritecomic [http://reno.stage-select.com/ Here Is A Question], JnVReno is asked an extremely [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|familiar line]], to much rage.
**Only a [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question51.gif short while later], he is asked the exact same question.
*Not too much later, someone also asks the [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question69.gif same question] of Jesus.
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question106.gif a later comic], someone asks if he has a crush on Marzipan and Homsar appears.
*Upon being asked about [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question155.gif guitar solos], Reno demonstrates several, one which includes the 'Meedley Mee!' bit from [[guitar]].
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question161.gif another comic], he is asked is he has a Pimped out car, by a person named Kyle similar to the one in [[car]].
*In the [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question300.gif 300th comic], Garkon shouts out "GARBLEDINA!", a reference to [[the facts]].
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question383.png another], a sock-puppet announces that it is a song from the sixties.
*In an [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question413.png attempt to take control] of the comic, Reno puts up a big [[No Loafing Sign]].
*In a [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question441.png later comic], one of the n00bs asks Reno that old, familiar question.
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question460.png medieval times], Sir Reno was asked "how doth ye use thy quill pen whilst wearing thy gauntlets".
*One of the [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question466.png many "spin-offs"] of the comic included the "New Question Show", which was canceled during the pilot, much like [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]]
*[http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question469.png In the future], a head-controlled Reno cyborg will be asked how he can answer these questions with no limbs.
*[http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question485.png In comic #485], Reno is asked how he types with boots on, to which he replies "with my hands, at least until I develop full telekenetic potential".
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question622.png comic #622], a complimentary ninja makes a "PREOOOOOOWWWW" sound as it sails across the room, much like the Paper.
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question673.png comic #673], the universe is BLACK HOLE'D due to all the Renos being in the same place at once.
*[[Strong Sad]] responds to a [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ//Question686.png big commercial success] in exactly the same way as he does in [[geddup noise]].
*In the [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question700.png 700th comic], the cast all ask for a celebration exactly the same as the cast in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], with similarly disastrous results.
*Renee notes in the [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question841.png 841st comic] that some dragons can [[Trogdor|burninate the people in their thatch roof cottages]].
*In a demonstration of whether or not "[http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question913.png the reploids is anatomically correct]", X and Zero act out a scene from [[lady fan]].
*While [http://reno.stage-select.com/HIAQ/Question917.png confronting Kevin], Renee quotes [[Senor Cardgage]] by saying "excardon me".

==Heroes Inc.==
In [http://www.heroes-comic.com/?p=263 Comic 263] Bowser and Kirby have a conversation involving random and unexplained DNA Evidence.

==Hockey Zombie==
In [http://www.hockeyzombie.com/daily.php?date=060202 this episode] The skull man is wearing a Red star shirt similar to homestar's

==I'm Blue==

In [http://www.blue-comic.com/archives/20040723.html this comic], Blue Veers is seen with a The Cheat plushie, possibly a [[Kick The Cheat]].

==Impy and Aevy==
*In [http://impy.aorange.com/index.php?date=2006-04-05 one comic], Aevy causes a computer's logic circuits to fail by loading Homestar Runner on it.

==Jump Start==
*A comic strip of this on August 16th, 2006 made a reference to the Freakin' Duck. Someone drew a picture of a "ferocious fire-breathing dragon", but it was mistaken as a duck, by somebody else.

==Kagerou==
*A very easily-missed [http://www.electric-manga.com/19/10.html reference], Kano begins to draw a picture, and talking to himself in a Strong Bad accent.

== The Karnak Hates Everthing Show ==
Homestar Runner appeared and got (possibly joking) [http://bobandgeorge.com/karnak/index.php?page=297 negative comments] on Karnak's "Alienate the Readers Week".

== Kerny Mantis Comics ==

*In [http://kernymantis.comicgenesis.com/d/20070724.html "47- Meet Pointyhead"], one of the computers Kerny passes whilst shopping is the shotgunned [[Compy 386]]. Kerny remarks that he needs a computer "a little less slightly shotgunned."
*In addition, the computer he ends up buying, the PC Plum, [http://kernymantis.comicgenesis.com/d/20070915.html seen here], bears particular resemblance to the semi-repaired [[Tandy 400]], with burn marks, tape and cracked screen, not to mention contrast buttons akin to those on the Tandy pre-explosion.

== Least I Could Do ==

*The header joke for the [http://www.leasticoulddo.com/comic/20070331 March 31 2007 comic] reads "Subject: SB_Email Menu"; the fourth panel of the same comic shows Rayne, the main character, typing on a computer in near-identical fashion to Strong Bad.

== Life On Sedna ==

'''NOTE:''' Some of these links may not work.

*In [http://www.piczo.com/Visitmypiczosite?g=17247118&cr=2 This Page Of Issue 1], Homestar is on the left-side of the fourth frame.
*In [http://www.piczo.com/Visitmypiczosite?g=18454480&cr=2 This Page Of Issue 2], A Lego Sculpture of Atari Homestar appears.
*In [http://www.piczo.com/Visitmypiczosite?g=18872840&cr=2 This Page Of Issue 3], The guy behind the desk is wearing the same hat as [[Homsar]].
*In [http://pic2.piczo.com/Visitmypiczosite/?g=22581660 This Page of Issue 7], Strong Bad appears, making a reference to both the Dangeresque films, and the email [[stunt double]].

==Masters of the art==
*In [http://www.mastersoftheart.com/comic.php?cid=59 Episode 59], the computer has text from "[[Thy Dungeonman]]" on it.
*In [http://www.mastersoftheart.com/comic.php?cid=137 Episode 137], on the right side of the newspaper it reads that [[Strongbadia]] was struck by a 90 foot tall [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|wave of babies]].
*In [http://www.mastersoftheart.com/comic.php?cid=320 Episode 320], the character Dirk asks his robotic double "Didn't [[A Splode|your head a splode]]?"

== Mid-Shift ==
This strip is not available online, but if you purchase the book, and turn to page 19, you can see a Homestar Runner mainpage on the computer. [http://www.midshiftcomic.com Official website]

== MoDCAMeRa ==
In the fourth panel of "Welcome to Yore Doum!", Matt says: "Okay, let's just give up trying not to laugh at him sounding like the Homestar Runner and do something else."

==Muertitos==
*A [http://muertitos.comicgenesis.com/d/20051129.html filler comic] on how to make your own comic strip suggests drawing copyrighted characters. The Cheat is among them.
*During the Death/Hulamutt Action Hour [http://muertitos.comicgenesis.com/d/20060615.html storyline], the Anecdotist had figured the authorities would send the [[Wikipedia:Green Lantern|Green Lantern]] to battle him, and assembled a group of yellow characters to protect him. Among them is The Cheat.
*In [http://muertitos.comicgenesis.com/d/20070227.html this comic], Honeo discovers an attempt to fix a ski race, and announces "I've got to drop my grapes and stop that CHEAT!", an obvious nod to the [[Original Book]].

== Name Censored ==
*In the [http://planet.nana.co.il/e_l_cool///name1.htm second strip], which is actually the first, Elad wears his iconic Homestar Runner hat. Elad still owns that hat and wears it on several occasions.
*In the [http://planet.nana.co.il/e_l_cool///name4.html last strip], there is an "EXTRA SECRET COMICS!". In the second panel, Homestar's head is shown on the wall.
*Elad also made [http://planet.nana.co.il/e_l_cool///southpark.JPG a picture] of the Homestar Runner cast as South Park characters, but it was never published on the main site.

== Natch Evil ==
*In [http://www.natchevil.com/comic.asp?comicID=109 Comic#109] God mentions getting an email about how he types with boxing gloves on.
*The [http://www.natchevil.com/extras.html Extra menu] is rather reminiscent of the main pages, and it even says apologies to Homestar at the bottom.
*In [http://www.natchevil.com/comic.asp?comicID=410 Comic#410] Cliff mentions [[Grumblecakes]].

== The Neopian Times ==
In three comics made by [http://www.neopets.com/randomfriend.phtml?user=_lordofthefrogs_ _lordofthefrogs_], the owner himself wears a duckie shirt ([http://www.neopets.com/ntimes/index.phtml?section=3775&issue=160 Comic #1]), Homestar's star shirt ([http://www.neopets.com/ntimes/index.phtml?section=19159&issue=166 Comic #2]), and in the 3rd comic a salesperson wears the same skirt as Marzipan ([http://www.neopets.com/ntimes/index.phtml?section=31406&issue=170 Comic #3]). If you go to [http://www.neopets.com/randomfriend.phtml?user=_lordofthefrogs_ his lookup], it says that he is a dedicated fanatic of Homestar Runner, and his background is [[:Image:Seriously.PNG|the Homestar Runner background with "Seriously" below him]].

==Never Never==
*In a [http://www.mopsy.com/d/20061121.html filler comic] Homestar has a cameo acknowledged by the author as an "added bonus".

== Ninja Verses ==
*In one comic, [[Eh! Steve!]] is featured as a [http://www.ninjaverses.net/d/20050317.html Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Ninja].
*In [http://www.ninjaverses.net/d/20050428.html another], the "Regular Ninja" parodies the [[Strong Bad Email]] element, including a "How do you type with boxing gloves"-type question. The animation ends with a single panel, like the normal comic: "Regular Ninja vs. Wrestleman Ninja"

== Oh The Humanity ==
In the final panel of the [http://humanity.xepher.net/comic.php?date=2004-01-07 January 7, 2004] strip, somebody says "A jorb well done"

== Okashina Okashi - Strange Candy ==
During the Sentai Arc, the background music played during Lycidia's trip through [http://www.strangecandy.net/d/20030624.html boarding tunnel number 2] is [[The System Is Down (song)|The System Is Down]]. The song is referenced again three more times through the arc [http://www.strangecandy.net/d/20030701.html here], [http://www.strangecandy.net/d/20031104.html here], and [http://www.strangecandy.net/d/20031106.html here].

During the Fantasy Arc which takes place in a MMORPG, the main characters get sucked down a whirlpool while bathing in a lake and ended up being transported to a text based game that references, among other text based games, [[Thy Dungeonman]]. It first appeared in [http://www.strangecandy.net/d/20060709.html #686 32 kilobytes of RAM] and again in [http://www.strangecandy.net/d/20060711.html #687 Finding the right command].

== One One Seven ==
In the 71st and 72nd guest strips of the Halo-based comic "One One Seven", Master Chief is shown sitting at a Compy 386. He even answers his own email!
http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/stuntmutt.html?type=guest&image=guest71
http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/stuntmutt.html?type=guest&image=guest72

== Oxygen Deficient ==
The main characters send Strong Bad an E-mail in [http://www.oxygendeficient.com/index.php?comic=3 Comic #3]

== Phil Likes Tacos ==
Homsar is among one of the characters to make a cameo in [http://philtaco.keenspace.com/d/20050522.html this] strip.

Trogdor's theme song is mentioned in [http://philtaco.comicgen.com/d/20060208.html this] strip.

Trogdor appears in a framed picture on the wall in the first panel of [http://philtaco.comicgen.com/d/20060612.html this] strip.

==Pokemon Amethyst Version==
In [http://www.drunkduck.com/Pokemon_Amethyst_Version/index.php?p=52662 "Comic 3: Leaving Home in Anyway Possible"], Barry says "...Well, looks like I'm gonna to have to jump!", a la [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]].

In the description of [http://www.drunkduck.com/Pokemon_Amethyst_Version/index.php?p=128684 "Merry Christmas (and other winter-time holidays)"], Glitch references [[Decemberween]].

== Pokemon X ==
In [http://pokemonx.keenspace.com/d/20050401.html the 2005 April Fool's special], the characters are "FOOLED!" by the [[Arrow'd Guy]].

In [http://pokemonx.keenspace.com/d/20060401.html the 2006 April Fool's special], drawn and written in a similar format, a moose get "PWNED!" by a Mewtwo, noted by, again, the Arrow'd Guy.

In [http://pokemonx.comicgenesis.com/d/20060811.html Comic 492], May comments that the candy Brendan got was "Soo Goood." a reference to Teen Girl Squad.

== PS238 ==
In [http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/nodwick/ps238/index.htm issue 14] of this comic series, the Teen Girl Squad appear as a child's drawing taped to a wall, though What's Her Face's frame is torn.

== PvP ==
In a guest strip by Howard Tayler, [[Pan Pan]] appears among [http://www.pvponline.com/article/2696/Fri-Apr-21?y=2006 a line-up of pandas].

== Questionable Content ==
*In [http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=265 comic #265], while Faye and Marten are discussing what will be the next indie rock band to break up, Faye mentions that the head of Win Butler (from The Arcade Fire) will explode during a live performance, forcing them to replace him with a Homestar Runner puppet.
*In [http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=317 comic #317], Steve is wearing an [[Eh! Steve!]] T-shirt.
*In [http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=333 comic #333], Raven wants to be left alone to close the coffee shop. She exclaims, "I can do it! I can totally do it nine times!" This is a reference to The Cheat's crazy cartoon in [[crazy cartoon]].

== Random Codes ==
The first two lines of the [http://us.codejunkies.com/images/randomcodes16.jpg 16th comic] are "So from then on, it was all pork and beans." and "That's not very healthy..." which are close to the two lines of dialogue said by Homestar and Marzipan in [[helium]].

== Resident Evil ==
In [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/Fancomics/Resident/Resident.html?50 comic 249], Jill asks Steve who Lisa is, which he replies that she's [[Crazy Go Nuts]].

== Road Waffles ==
In the [http://www.roadwaffles.com/archive-rw.php?c=2003-7-23 July 23, 2003] comic, when Moses is altering how he percieves the afterlife, one of his visualisations bears a resemblance to Strong Bad standing in Strong Badia, saying 'Pop culture reference!'.

== Room ==
A recent update of this puzzling pixelart webcomic has an appearance of a pixelart Strong Bad and The Cheat. He's looking at a computer, but it doesn't appear to be any of the ones he's owned. [http://www.aintaer.com/room/room.php?strip=49]

== Roy the Duck ==
*Explore [http://roy.esmilde.com/mathtitle.htm Roy the Duck's math book] to find Homestar Runner and to learn how to count (see page 4 especially).
*The new ''Ye Castle's Final Houre'' [http://roy.esmilde.com/castlebook.htm book] says "...don't throw full glass wine bottles at the screen."
*It also has two references to homestarrunner.com on the [http://roy.esmilde.com/zBay.htm zBay] page. On it Bubs is selling the [[Broken Compy Menu|Slightly Shotgunned Compy]]. It also contains a link to the [[HR:amazon.html|bookazon.com]] page.
*[http://roy.esmilde.com/palmstatetimes.htm The Palm State Times] on the site contains an article about [[Thorax Corporation]].
*Their [http://roy.esmilde.com/cloogle.htm Cloogle] page has a reference to both Senor Cardgage Mortgage and Population: Tire.

== Runaways ==
In the July 2005 issue of this [[wikipedia: Marvel Comics|Marvel Comics]] publication, as the title characters head off on a mission to rescue the captive mother of their newest accquaintance, Victor, Victor himself remarks that he is "not sure why he should entrust his mom's life to the freakin' '''Teen Girl Squad'''!" Chase, the only male member of the Runaways team, corrects him with: "That's Teen Girl Squad plus one, amigo!"

== Scary Go Round ==
*[http://www.scarygoround.com/?date=20050818 In the comic posted on August 18th, 2005], Shelley tells Gibby to tell her father about the "terrible a-splosions", an obvious reference to Vector Strong Bad.
*In the [http://www.scarygoround.com/index.php?date=20070912 September 12, 2007 comic], a slightly jam-inebriated Shelley replies to Amy's instructions with "I do as I'm told", a la [[Homsar]] in [[dragon]].

== SCemails ==
This webcomic is a spoof of Strong Bad Email.

== Sluggy Freelance ==
The weekly filler Meanwhile in the Dimension of Pain shows the demons deathmatching. When Horribus uses the Unholy Hand grenade and the demons are all incinerated, the panel reads "And all was laid to burnination."
[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=040501 link]

== SMAX ==
The ''Top Ten'' spin-off comic ''[http://www.enjolrasworld.com/Jess%20Nevins/Smax/Smax%20index.htm SMAX]'' puts Jaafs Macksun and his partner Toybox in a world of fantasy. A wanted poster for Trogdor is on a pole and the silhouette of Homestar and Pom Pom are seen in town.

== Snafu ==
In the strip [http://www.snafu-comics.com/?strip_id=144 Otakon 2004], Homestar Runner has a cameo in the 3rd panel, saying "I could sure go for a glass of melonade."

== Sore Thumbs ==
In [http://www.sorethumbsonline.com/comics/st20041220.gif this] comic, a drugged director quotes Strong Bad's "H*R and Marzipan Dating Simulation XR" from Strong Bad Email [[date]].

== Staccato ==
In the online webcomic, Staccato, when the author portrays his characters as Fantastic Four characters, the one portrayed as the "The Human Torch" says "'The Human Torch?' 'Flame On?' That all sounds kinda' fruity... Couldn't I be be called like 'The Burninator' or something?" in direct reference to our beloved Trogdor!
[http://www.staccatocomic.com/2005-011.php]

== Tales of Southtown ==
In [http://southtown.incomprehensibility.com/archives.php?id=12 Episode #12], the words "That is not a small number!" appear on a scroller at the bottom of the TV screen that Geese is watching, a reference to [[virus]].

== Team Gizoid ==
In [http://teamgizoid.smackjeeves.com/comics/245645/on-the-floor/ this strip] Skippy mentions transforming into a Giant Robotic Halloween Night Finding Space Panther, a reference to [[Happy Hallow-day]].

== Teen Titans Go! ==
In the issue of this [[wikipedia: DC Comics|DC Comics]] comic entitled "Finding Nero," there is a carnival game with Strong Sad plushies as prizes.

== The Devil's panties ==
* The [http://devilspanties.keenspot.com/d/20030416.html April 16 2003 comic] and the [http://devilspanties.keenspot.com/d/20040927.html September 27 2004 comic] has the main character (Jennie) screaming "TROGDOR" in a caffine fueled rage
* The [http://devilspanties.keenspot.com/d/20050208.html February 8 2005 comic] features geeks entertaining themselves by singing among other things "The system is down" and shouting "Trogdor"

== The Misadventures of Gary and Ted ==
Trogdor [http://garyandted.com/2007/02/05/59-a-game-of-wits/ shows up] as a solution in a Sudoku square in the third panel.

== The Rodlands Comics ==
*In [http://pic2.piczo.com/Visitmypiczosite/?g=23541472 Issue 10], Homestar Runner can be seen on the plane.

== Theater Hopper ==
Tom Brazelton of Theater Hopper had himself in his [http://www.theaterhopper.com/index.php?date=20040623 comics] on June 23, with a Homestar shirt.

Also, [http://www.theaterhopper.com/index.php?date=20060623 this] comic features the [[Wear a Bikini!]] plane in the background.

== Tiny Sepuku ==
[http://tinysepuku.com/comics.asp?a=04-22-04 This comic] about catchy songs includes [[Everybody to the Limit]] (with [[Fhqwhgads]] misspelled as "fhqwdgads") as one of its examples.

== Twisted Kaiju Theater ==
A season 17 [http://www.neomonsterisland.com/tktarkv/vol2/017/803/1.html episode] of the comic makes reference to Trogdor, and reveals that the creator hadn't heard of homestarrunner.com until 2005.

== [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35747963/ Toonatopia] ==
Homestar Runner is mentioned on the [http://www.deviantart.com/view/21218372/ first page].

== Under Power ==
*In the [http://underpower.non-essential.com/index.php?comic=20040202 Feb 02, 2004] Strong Bad is behind the elf and saying ARROWED! Also, the copyright line at the bottom reads "strong bad © 2001-2004 the brothers chaps".
*In the [http://underpower.non-essential.com/index.php?comic=20040519 May 19, 2004] comic, Strong Bad and the Cheat are the DJs in panel 2.

== Universal Voyage ==
*In [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/Subcomics/UVoyage/index.php?num=1 Comic #2] there are sprites of Strong Bad and Trogdor as a team called "Burninators!"
*In [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/Subcomics/UVoyage/index.php?num=188 Comic#563], Homestar makes a rather ''shocking'' sprite cameo.

== Vanguard ==
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/Vanguard/067.png comic 67], NORM the computer wakes up, mimicking the [[Couch Mumbling]] gag.
*[http://reno.stage-select.com/Vanguard/175.png Comic 175] has Kylmoore refer to the cast as "Brain-for-Brains", as Strong Bad did to Strong Mad in [[invisibility]].

== VG Cats ==
*The "[http://www.vgcats.com/first/ New to the site]" page starts "Welcome aboard the USS VGCats.com, this is a website!", both mimicking and linking to [[First Time Here?]]
*In [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/extras/100.php Comic 100], click on "100 Comics" at the end to see Pantsman answer an email on the [[Compy 386]]. Strong Bad later appears and repeats a line from [[sibbie]] in this clip.
*In the 6th panel of [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=129 Comic 135], a The Cheat Talking Plush Doll is visible with the rest of the merchandise behind the glass in the bottom right.
*At the top of the new layout, there is a [http://www.vgcats.com/quotes/rotate.php rotating image], featuring several different quotes. A few of them are [How do you type with boxing gloves on?], [We are the band LIMOZEEN!] and [Let's get ready to look SO GOOD!]
*The title for the news post on Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 12:43 PM is "Throw baby", a [[Peasant's Quest]] reference.
*[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=186 Comic 187] is titled Jorbs, a reference to [[A Jorb Well Done]] and [[Coach Z]]'s accent in general.
*[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=218 Comic 218] is titled "G-Four'd", a reference to [[-'d]] and [[Teen Girl Squad]] in general.
*In [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=232 Comic 232], "safety guide", the first panel has a guitar with a sticker of the ever-popular band [[Limozeen]].

== Walking Is Still Honest ==
*In [http://www.stillhonest.com/?strip_id=69 strip #69], the power is out, and there is a picture of Strong Bad's head with the words "Power Failured!" above it.
*In [http://www.stillhonest.com/?strip_id=94 strip #94], the trebuchet is nicknamed 'Trebdor, the Flinginator'.

== Witchs' Brew ==
The origin of the Witch's Brew name came from Homestar's famous Halloween [[Witches' Brew|witch's brew]] line. (Alas, however, the phrase is not spelled correctly in the comic.) Also, in the [http://homepage.mac.com/witchsbrew/brews1-10/brew01.html first] comic, Homestar appears on the last panel, and the [http://homepage.mac.com/witchsbrew/brews1-10/brew03.html third] comic uses the CHILDREN! panel from [[Teen Girl Squad]]. The [http://homepage.mac.com/witchsbrew/brews1-10/brew06.html sixth] comic tells us to not fake the funk on a nasty dunk, one of [[Homsar]]'s quotes from [[interview]]. And the author bios describe one of the creators as "one of the few lucky non-peasant humans to be burninated."

==World of Warcraft Comic Contest==
In a comic submitted by the character Bludlemon, on the furbolg's necklace is a small Strong Bad head. Link: http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=84&Set=64

==World of Warcraft Idiocy==
*In [http://reno.stage-select.com/WoWi/120.png comic 120], Jay and Tor have a brief discussion, reminiscent of the one Homestar and Marzipan have in [[helium]].

== The Wotch ==
*In the [http://www.thewotch.com/?epDate=2003-04-02 April 2, 2003 comic], Jason looks at a shelf full of magical items in the eighth panel. [[Trogdor]] can be seen on the top shelf.
*In the [http://www.thewotch.com/?epDate=2003-06-24 June 24, 2003 comic], Lilly and Jennie are playing with Homestar Runner action figures. In particular they are acting out a scene from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
*In the first panel of the [http://www.thewotch.com/?epDate=2007-06-25 June 24, 2007 comic], Katie tells Wolfie about the [[DNA Evidence]] cartoon.

== The Wotch: CHEER! ==
*In the [http://cheer.thewotch.com/index.php?date=20060314 March 14th comic], Lita makes a Pig Latin comment reminiscent of Strong Bad's at the end of [[rock opera]], right down to the reversal of what was meant and what was said.
*In a [http://cheer.thewotch.com/index.php?date=20070303 later comic], "Principal O'Brian"/32 excuses herself to go "[[Place]]", similarly to Strong Bad at the end of [[different town]].
*In [http://cheer.thewotch.com/index.php?indate=20070410 April 10th's comic], "Principal O'Brian"/32 claims to have [[DNA Evidence (running gag)|tampered with the DNA evidence]], using the same wording Strong Bad used in [[unnatural]].

== [http://www.vipercomics.com/webComics/yht You'll Have That] ==
On the [http://www.vipercomics.com/webComics/yht/strips/050725.gif July 25th, 2005 comic], Andy tries to steal a new [[Compy 386]].

== XKCD ==
*In the first comic of the 1337 series, one of the charicters asks "How does she type with oven mitts!?"
**http://xkcd.com/341/

== Zelda comic ==
*[http://www.zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=096.gif Comic 96] is entitled Dot, Dot, Dot.
*In [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=136.gif Comic 136], Bub says "Ow! my stomach lining!!!"
*On comic [http://www.zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=162.png 162], the characters are swamped by Cuccos with the caption "CUCCO'D!"
*[http://www.zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=164.png Comic 164] is actually called "Yet Another Subtle Homestar Reference." The reference is "shut it up, you."
*[http://www.zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=170.png Comic 170] is entitled "I'm So Glad the Bub is Not Dead."
*In [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=193.png Comic 193], the Miscreant decapitates Edgar with the caption "DECAPITAT'D!"
*On the [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=200.png 200th] comic, they used the "Its almost over!" screen from Teen Girl Squad.
*[http://www.zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=212.png Comic 212] is entitled "Yeah, Shut Up, Kid."
*On comic [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=217.png Comic 217], Link says "Rock, rock on!"
*On comic [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=220.png Comic 220], Link says,"That sounds re-zon-able".
*On comic [http://www.zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=223.png Comic 223], when Link rolls his eyes, it says "Eye roll'd!"
*On comic [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=225.png 225], Link asks what would happen if Bub fights Lloyd. Bub answers saying "his head a splode?"
*On comic [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/zc/?pic=227.png 227], Lloyd dodges an attack with the caption "Matrix'd!"
*Also in the bonus section, there is a thing called "Flame War 04." The [http://zeldacomic.net/archives/bonus/flamewar04/flame1.jpg first comic] is a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[dragon]], and the state (California) with the underwear is a reference to Strong Bad Email [[weird dream]].

[[Category:Sightings]]

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Bellstrom:

== Licensing ==
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Bellstrom — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:08:55 GMT

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== Userboxes and name ==

Hey Im a bell. I fixed your userboxes for you. You needed the top and bottom part. For what it's worth, Homestar's line in [[halloweener]] is spelled "I'm a belle". I can fix that for you if you want. If not, keep on tranglin'. Laters. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
:I know it's spelled that way. I just thought it would be funnier my way. Think about it. Actually, his head kinda looks like a bell... thanks but no thanks, [[User:Im a bell]]
::Cool. (I moved this here because we like to [[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette#same page|keep discussions in one place]].) Also, here's a tip: To sign your name, just type four tildes, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, and the system will automatically replace it with your name and a timestamp, like this: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
* thaaaaaanks... ''SARCASM DEUCE!!!!'' [[User:Im a bell|Im a bell]] 01:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== common taters ==

comments? anybody? Sid Hoffman!
[[User:Im a bell|Im a bell]] 01:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
*hooray a-for me! not [[User:Im a bell|Im a bell]] 01:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
(yes, I- you already figured it out didn't you?)
* COME ON! DOES ANYONE WANNA COMMENT? {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 23:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
I commented! Yayy! =)
:sign ye olde username, Naive! {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 23:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

== [[different town Visuals]] ==

Are they MADE of chocolate or covered in chocolate? It's never directly stated. {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 15:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:Covered. I got [[:Image:Coveredinchocolate.png|proof.]] (look at the dollar going offscreen) {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 19:08, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Summer Short Shorts

Bellstrom — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:27:54 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Pom Pom segment */

==Pom Pom segment==
Anyone want to bet how long it'll take before someone claims this is a Naruto reference? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:You mean like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=348440&oldid=348439 here?] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::D'oh! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I was a bit fast on that one. But somehow you've just proven that it's obviously Naruto :-P {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Did any of you notice that part of this segment contradicts the "Strong Bad is in jail catoon"? In the begining of said cartoon, Strong Bad and The Cheat run up to Bub's Concession Stand which is shown right next to the woods. But when Pom Pom does that huge jump in this segment, it appears that Strong Badia is located between the woods and the Concession Stand. Weird o_0. [[User:Scholar of Homestar|Scholar of Homestar]] 15:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Obviously Naruto, or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or House of Flying Daggers, or any other film where people fly through the trees. Actually I'm inclined to say it's more of a reference to live action martial arts because of way Pom Pom hovers above the ground before seems to parody the effect of using counterweight harnesses to give the effect of actors jumping incredibly high. I've never seen any of the ninjas on Naruto do that. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's a reference to Prowlies at the River: http://www.biteycastle.com/prowlies.html
::::::Or it could be any movie/cartoon with lots of jumping through a forrest. as stated above.
Actually-actually ;), I thought people would think it was a Naruto reference because of the backgrounds. Although those backgrounds don't feature in the Naruto show in and of itself, it does feature in Cartoon Network's ads for Naruto, and add that with the ninja references and you'll see how people could get the idea. Without those backgrounds, it's just generic anime martial arts stuff. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. And my first thought on seeing it was that it was a reference to "Ninja Scroll". But it's probably true... just a generic ninja anime/wuxia reference.
:*I thought the hovering was just because Pom Pom's a floatyman, like in the Yello Dello. I'm glad to see him get some screen time, though![[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
I think the fun fact "The sky can be seen inside Bubs' Concession Stand during Pom Pom's scene. This would only be possible if one of the walls were missing" should probably be in remarks instead of goofs, because it's almost certainly a stylistic thing, rather than a real error.
--[[User:LuigiHann|LuigiHann]] 01:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

There's also a refrence to the video game Dynamite Headdy in that scene. The wave background reminded me of the first fight with Trouble Bruin(the teddy bear) in which those waves were seen in the "japanese" background in the fight. Don't know what I mean? Watch a video of level 1 on YouTube. Then you'll see it.
:Um.. Ever notice that the jungle here looks almost exactly like the LV9 background in MYOS?

[[Image:LV9-Shortshortcomparison.png]]

WELL?!! {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 00:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:*cough* Anyone? {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 18:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

== First forest ==

Is it worth mentioning that this is the first instance of a forest in the standard animation style? [[User:216.232.210.238|216.232.210.238]] 08:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Sure. I mean, that could be the creepy halloween forest during summer, but still...--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== pi=pie? ==
Does anyone else think the Pi reference in this and weclome back could tie in with the pie running joke?

:I think you got it [http://clampettstudio.com/images/archives/wb/WB1026-PiE.jpg confused]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Eggselent ==

I don't believe that Homestar says "Eggs, can I get you gentlemen..." I think he says the more logical "And". Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Definatly sounds like "And" to me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::I leaning towards "And". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Ef=ggs!
::::I think it should read "and", but I just wanted to say yes, I initially wondered whether he was saying "eggs". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Coz I hear a faint S sound on the end and I did the transcription is why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I don't think it's an "S" sound at the end. I think you see the word egg on his hat and THINK you hear "eggs." I'm pretty sure he is saying "Annnnnd, can I get you gentelmen anything else?" It makes more sense and if you listen you can hear the "D" sound. It just sounds kind of like an "S-ish" sound because of the way Matt does Homestar's voice. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I heard "thanks." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:I think that it makes sense that he says eggs. I know that you know that on Homestar's hat it says "eggs". he might be saying eggs to get the thought into Strong Bad's head to buy some eggs. or he's just acting stupid, like Homestar has been acting in recent days. --[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 04:37, 10 January 2007

:It's possible that he could be saying "eggs." I heard a definite "s" sound on the end of that word, which wouldn't make sense if it was "and." --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 22:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Raising the Seek Bar... ==

[[Image:LaBrea.PNG|thumb|Seek bars not spake here.]]
Lapper removed the Transcript edit about Cave Strong Bad's feet poking out from under the tar pit. He said it only comes up when you use a Seek Bar. I present to you: exhibit A. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I removed it because I checked on that a few hours ago and thought it was only the seek bar. But I did a very sloppy check. You were absolutely right. (btw, I'm not Lapper) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry. Guess you're not the only one who did a sloppy check. Happens to the best of us. And me, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I didn't know if you were just trying to prove that it happens or that it's an error on their part. Because if you think it's a glitch, I think it was done badly on purpose because it's PBTC. Notice there are two layers of Strong Bad's head that appear and disappear over each other too. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 10:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::That's why it's in the transcript and not in the goofs section. ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:I watched it, I have no seek bar, and I saw Caveman Strong Bad's feet go through the mud.
::Same here. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 17:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Everybody sees it, and it's been put back in the transcript days ago :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== From the front to the back... ==

So these pants we are staring at: Are these from the front or the back? I can't really tell. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I say the front.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC) [[Image:Goodgraphics.PNG|thumb]]
::Back, and thus a double entendre on "end." [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 12:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Nice idea, but the same image is shown in the beginning and in the end.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Can't Really Tell. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:::::I don't really think it matters. And anyway, does anyone else think it's a ''little'' strange to be starring at Matt's shorts to try to figure out if it's the front of the back? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree it's weird, lol. But I think it's the back too. Just try to imagine knee caps below where the image is cut off. Just.. doesn't.. seem... natural. Looks like the back of the legs. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 10:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's the front. Note the creases along the front seam, like crow's feet wrinkles on both sides. Those are the kinds of creases that form in the fronts of pants from sitting in them (I should know, as I do the laundry and ironing here!).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure it's the front now, as in Decemberween Short Shorts it's more short shorts, and you know it's the front because it has a little buckle. So they're most likely both the front. {{User:Salty/sig}} 19:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

== Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy ==

I think the lyrics for "Brain Sister" are wrong (The trancscriber didn't seem too confident anyway). The line "She's a {mile?} away" sounds like it ends "all day" to me, not "away". Obviously "She's a mile all day" makes no sense at all, So I'm pretty sure that whole line is wrong. Can anybody make it out? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:And I don't seem able to manage any more than "She {three syllables} all day". I'm giving up for now. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I can't quite make it out, but to me it sounds more like "a low-res beauty queen" rather than a "lonely". [[User:67.42.210.44|67.42.210.44]] 20:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it's something like "{something} texas all day". [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 20:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I heard "low-res" the first two times, until I read the transcript. It's kinda mushy though, with the background music, so it's hard to tell.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::I hear "lonely", and "away"... I put in the "She's a {mile?} away" bit, after trying, without much success, to dampen the guitar and such in Audacity... it sounds kinda (to me) like "She's a [[Wikipedia:-izzle|mizz-ile]] away", but I didn't think that fitted with the Limozeen genre... hence the braces and the question mark. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:::The two times it says 'And she would never tell you you could do it!' are wrong... I hear something like 'And she remembers how to get to *indistinguishable*!'A lot of people are reverting and editing all the lyrics. Just look at the quote of the week! It gives the exact lyrics. I"m not going to try and edit them anyone because somebody might yell at me.[[User:199.224.118.156|199.224.118.156]] 21:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
: Only one person reverted the lyrics: me. And I hadn't checked the QoW so I didn't realize it'd been updated. My bad. I already fixed it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::The [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=349549&oldid=349541 original transcript] of the Limozeen song wasn't just wrong, it wasn't even close. Like, it wasn't even ''close'' to close. Close and it had never met. So I wonder if TBC made that the QotW for our sake. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::And, yea verily, the Brothers Chaps did end this most screwy argument by revealing the truth within a humble Quote of the Week.
::::That's it; I'm now convinced TBC monitor our confusions and use QoWs and DVD commentaries where they can to solve them. Though in this case, I don't know anyone would have been expected to get all that by ear. "Th'all"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, it was also more muffled in the 'toon itself than in the QoW. I transcribed ''most'' of the song (incorrectly), but that's really what my best guess was. Only reason I reverted it was because the real lyrics were a bit... out there, to be frank, and I hadn't seen the QoW yet. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I know the QotW explicitly says "2017", but I think the Bros. Chaps had to truncate it to make it fit within the QotW box. I tried changing it to "twenty-seventeen", as I think it makes much more sense in context, but as expected, it was changed back to agree with the QotW version. Any thoughts? Agree? Disagree?--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:TBC said it's "2017", so it is "2017". Even if you would have liked them to say "twenty-seventeen". And how do you know "she" is not a calculator, maybe the old [http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/a-bus2017-1.html 2017]? The song would still make sense (well, as much as it does make sense). Or 2017 is her height in millimeters? You don't know. So better stick with what TBC said.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::For the record, I ''do'' think they printed it that way to fit in the box. I think we should use 2017 in the transcript, but goodness sake, look how packed the box was already and the twelve characters they saved! But yeah, as intriguing as the calculator idea is, I think it's meant in an age sense, as a play on the Beatles line, and in a number-formation play like [[Tooty-two|tooty-two]] and "[[Wikipedia:110 (number)|eleventy-one]]". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm in favor of "twenty-seventeen" because 2017 can be said as "two thousand seventeen" or "two oh one seven" or so forth. There's only one way to read "twenty-seventeen". And wouldn't eleventy-one be 111, rather than 110? :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::([[Wikipedia:Eleventy]] redirects to [[Wikipedia:110 (number)|110]] and mentions Tolkien; true, [[Wikipedia:Eleventy-one|Eleventy-one]] redirects to [[Wikipedia:111 (number)|111]], but with no explanation why. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC))
::::I'm with Jay on that one. "twenty-seventeen" is the joke here and not some 4-digit number. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::I vote for twenty-seventeen. TBC also skipped a line and missed two of the "brain"s. They had to squish it down to fit. They probably would've put "twenty-seventeen if there was enough room.
::::::Good point, the QotW isn't word for word lyrics anyway. And it's also true that writing "twenty-seventeen" in the transcript would give people a better idea of what Larry actually sang. So I've officially changed my mind now ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Only because it makes it easier to understand what Larry actually sang do I agree. Otherwise it's hard to really say. TBC gave us an official "2017" spelling, even if it was only to fit in the box. The thing is, spelling it out makes more sense because like stated before... there is only ONE WAY to read it! Someone who hadn't seen the toon might be thinking a number. Even though there isn't a comma there for that to make sense. Actually it makes sense both ways now that I think about it. I don't think it really matters either way. But my official vote is I think it should be written out as "twenty-seventeen." --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::There was no TI-2017 made. It refers, as far as I can tell, to the [http://www.datamath.org/Sci/Galaxy/TI-37GalaxySolar.htm TI 37], (20+17) or [http://www.datamath.org/Desktop/ti-340.htm TI 340] (20*17) made in the 80's or the 70's respectively. Both had low resolution, to be sure. Just trying to figure out what "duet" means.

This brings up a recurring "should QoW texts be taken as gospel truth" debate. On which I'm not exactly a strict constructionist; I think we should give TBC a little leeway to represent it one way without it necessarily being set in stone. In other words, I'm reversing what I just said above, and ''do'' think it should read "twenty-seventeen". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
:Right on, AbdiViklas. When I first argued for spelling out the word, it wasn't so much about right or wrong, it was just about clarity and accepting that TBC, awesome as they may be, are fallible (or in this case, subject to constraints). A significant portion of the wiki is devoted to mistakes (the "Goofs" and "Glitches" sections) so I think it's important to keep an open mind even when the "puppeteers", so to speak, show up to provide clarification. Those are just my thoughts on the matter. Another case closed.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fries and Catsup ==

Arn't they the same as from the e-mail [[funny]], from the "Computer Catsup" scene?
:Yes, unless you count "computer Catsup" as different. {{User:Steve/sig}} 17:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::OMG I HATE WHEN PPL SAY CATSUP. ITS KETCHUP!!! - anonymous
:::First of all, either apply. Chill. Second, sign your posts properly. Like this. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::::And besides, no one said "cat's up", they ''typed'' it. Just pronounce it as you like. Who's gonna know? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'll also point out that "Catsup" and "Ketchup" are both perfectly acceptable spellings for the same thing. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 08:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== Captain Caveman ==

It's not nearly close enough for me to try to suggest that this was intentional, but the spots on Marzipan's cavewoman outfit remind me of the spots on [[Wikipedia:Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels|Captain Caveman]]'s cape. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

:From looking at [[Wikipedia:Image:Caveman.jpg|that picture]] i see that the cape was orange and the spots were circular. Marzipan is wearing brown and the spots are oddly shaped. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams, {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:(Edit conflict) Much unlike the spots on [[Wikipedia:Fred Flintstone|Fred Flintstone's]] fashionable outfit of course ;-) I think it's just a caveman cliche.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

== Winger ==

I would like just to add that the Limozeen song might also be a reference to the Winger song, "seventeen".
Sincerely, Very Anonymous
:Is there any other reason than the title? There are many [[IMDB:seventeen|movies]] having "seventeen" in the title, and I'm sure there are even more songs. [[Wikipedia:Seventeen (song)|Here]] are some, and [[Wikipedia:Sixteen Going On Seventeen|here]] is one more. What makes the Winger song stand out?{{User:Loafing/sig}}

:I have 2 reasons
*1. It says "She's only seventeen"
*2. Winger is a metal band as well, as opposed to the Beatles.
:Sincerely, Anonymous
::I'm still not quite convinced. Actually, after looking at the Limozeen lyrics again, I'm no longer sure the Beatles reference is very obvious. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

==Some 'splainin' to do?==
Is the Explanation "The Limozeen sequence simulates a laser show" even remotely necessary? What could it possibly be mistaken for? It's like saying "The sequence with Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat simulates eating in a restaurant." -- [[User:69.168.10.233|69.168.10.233]] 02:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

: Not necessarily. Some people might not realize it's supposed to be a laser light show, and miss the laser light that is drawing the images behind it. They might think it's a weird art style. *shrug* -- {{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

::It's there mostly to hang the [[Wikipedia:Laser lighting display|link to Wikipedia]], so that, as Bleed0range mentioned, people who don't know what a laser show is can find out. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

:::I didn't know it was a laser show because I'd never heard that term before. It's useful enough. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 15:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Seems ok to me. Not everybody knows what a laser show is (Do they still do those?) And I'll corroborate that I missed the connection until I saw the fun fact. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

:I have replaced the link to Wikipedia with a link to [[Lasers]], which in turn links to [[Wikipedia:Laser lighting display|Wikipedia]]. I'm not sure if the laser bit should now be moved from Explanations to Inside References.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, actually I thought it was some vector-graphics-thing going on. Oops. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]]

:It is. When my wife and I saw this part, we both said, "Look! Stone Mountain!" It's a laser show nearly identical to the nightly summertime production at Stone Mountain Park just outside Atlanta. (I've added this to the main article.) - Troy Thompson, near Atlanta, GA

::I'm not that convinced... Could you explain why it could be a reference to this particular laser show and not to laser shows in general? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== "Bliiiing"? ==

I coulda swore that Homestar said "Bootleg!" instead of "Bliiiiing!" Sounds a lot like "Bootleg" to me. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 13:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
: I'm not sure what Homestar is saying, but it has a long "E" sound, so no "Bootleg". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::When originally transcribed, I wrote "budeling" (pronounce as "boo-deh-ling"). Next day I come back, and it's changed, and I'm wondering why... I think it's just nonsense anyway... But I think it has too many syllables to just be "bliiiing". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I hear it as "Wiiiiiiing". {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I hear it as 'Boodaliiing!', pronounced boo-dah-ling with the ling being stretched out. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 20:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I changed it because I can't hear three syllables at all. I think it's more like "bliiiiing" with the "b" detached from the "liiiing". So I guess I'm really hearing "Bu-liiiiing".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but I hear no "ling" anywhere in it. I hear "Boo-diiiing" and that's all I hear.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 09:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think it's like, "boo-del-liing." --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

==Blue Collar TV reference?==

Could this possibly be a reference to Blue Collar TV, you know, with the short skits that are pretty dry? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:It could be a reference to any number of TV shows/Flash cartoons/movies. For a couple of examples, [[Wikipedia:22 Short Films About Springfield|22 Short Films About Springfield]], the [[Wikipedia:Dave Kelly (artist)#The Flash Tub|Flash Tub]]'s "Tub Bites!", [[Wikipedia:And Now For Something Completely Different|And Now For Something Completely Different]]... --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 03:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's pretty much just a reference to Robot Chicken. The skits are pretty much unrelated to each other and the static on the tv appears when changing skits, or at least it did on the first one if I remember correctly. That's just like Robot Chicken.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Robot Chicken satirizes TV shows, has a different kind of humour and many more torn off limbs than we see in SSS. The only things they have in common are the static and the fact that it's a clip show. And that's way too generic to be a reference.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Well then I don't think it's trying to reference anything in particular outside the generic idea of a clip show.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 09:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I agree with Breed Orange. But if you really think it is robot chicken, let's take a vote. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't really think it's a reference to anything, its just a bunch of short toons. Probably stuff that they made but couldn't find any other places to use them in. -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 18:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Too many ones... ==

Hey! You guys think that maybe all these ones (warm ones, not so cold ones, 'old ones, and the like) are running gags stemming from [[property of ones]]? I mean, the different variations didn't appear until [[property of ones]]...-[[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 04:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, see [[Cold One]]. One of my more favorite Inside Jokes. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== confused/weirded out ==

i did not understand the part in the very begining...so The Cheat iz Strong Mad's girlfriend? I'm totally confused...i mean the whole sketch wuz so random so I think they did it 4 the sake of randomness...do u agree? {{User:Rabb/sig}}
:The Cheat's male. It was just Strong Bad/Mad being random. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, I think it was just a reference to guys insulting other guys by calling them ladies or other female names. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
:::That's true, it was probably more of an insult to The Cheat. But it's hard to say. I didn't get it. But you know what really was weird?!? What in the world is going on when Homestar shows up and holds up a clown shoe with a flower growing out of it? What was the purpose exactly? What does it all mean!!? --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I took the clownshoe as a reference to [[She Loves Me!|this]], what with the flower and the shoe (remember how the Converse is the next button in this particular game) being such major players.--[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:::::I took the shoe to be a reference to "Get Smart", with the infamous "shoe phone".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 00:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom's facial expression ==

Current article says: "{as Homestar says "Soggy", Pom Pom gets a dull, bored look on his face.}"

While lowered, non-angled eyelids can be interpreted that way, in this context, it's probably more of an annoyed/aggravated expression.

==I Am Not Exempt==

"Exempt" sounded more like "egg-zampt". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well, PbTC voices ARE notoriously poor... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Wait! How does he do the voices anyway? O_O {{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I ''could'' tell you, but then Strong Mad will beat me to a pulp. Of...orange juice. For breakfast. -Alex H. --[[User:68.248.158.216|68.248.158.216]] 12:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

==DVD?==
Is this toon featured on [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]?--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
:Given it was made a good 8 months after EE, the answer is no. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 20:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

== Saved by the Bell? ==

*''Homestar performing the magic trick with a flower growing out of a shoe is a reference to the waiter "Max" from "Saved by the Bell", who was often seen performing magic tricks while serving the students their food.''

Is this true? An anonymous user put it up under Real World references, but I couldn't verify it. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 19:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

:[[Wikipedia:Saved_by_the_Bell#Other_main_characters|Yup]]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 19:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
::Oh thanks Bluebry! I'll put it back then! [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 19:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Um, never mind! You already did that...! [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 19:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

== Puppet Stuff trouble? ==

Am I the only one who can't access the Puppet Stuff Easter Egg from the end of these short shorts?
:I think you might be... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== Lazer Show Reference? ==

Watching the Limozeen lazer show scene, I was thinking, is that part a reference to the lazer show at [[Wikipedia:Stone Mountain|Stone Mountain Lazer Show in Georiga]]? I say this because 1. The 2006 one, which occured July 7, 2006, isn't that far from the July 25, 2006 release from this toon, and 2. [[The Brothers Chaps]] are in Georiga. Do you think so? -[[User:Andrewnuva199|Andrewnuva199]] 08:53, November 25, 2007
:They mention a laser show in the commentary, but I can't recall which. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::Do you have anything specifically ABOUT the laser show? The Wikipedia page had nothing. Well, it had things, but not anything pertaining to the laser show. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:::From the DVD commentary:

'''MIKE:''' Uh, so, if you've ever seen a laser show like this ''recently'', it's not very different from if you saw a laser show like this twenty years ago.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, the laser show at Stone Mountain, uh, has not changed at all.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I— I hadn't been for maybe 15 years, and we went a couple years ago and it's just amazingly bad as it ever was.

'''MATT:''' Do they still do that part where it looks like Spirographs and they play Axel F from Beverly Hills Cops?

'''MIKE:''' They don't play Axel F. The music changes, but, uh, the lasers are still very— very bad animated bears.

:::Hope that helps. Oh, and it's spelled "laser". =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Okay, that doesn't mean that the segment is a reference, quite the opposite, they made a generic laser show and later reminisced about the stone mountain one in the commentary. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I agree that it's not necessarily a reference (I'm still on the fence about that). But my intent wasn't to say, "See? It's a reference!" It was just to fill everyone in since DorianGray brought up the DVD commentary. Either way, it seems clear that the laser show in Summer Short Shorts was ''influenced'' by Stone Mountain. Whether that counts as a reference or not... {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Mabye "reference" was the wrong word. I guess the word "inspired" or "influenced", like Optimistic Fool said, could be better.-[[User:Andrewnuva199|Andrewnuva199]] 02:02, November 26, 2007

Talk:more armies

Bellstrom — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:51:13 GMT

Bellstrom: /**/The hands...

==Continuation of "army"?==
Could this email be considered a continuation of the email [[army]] due to how the subject nature is so similar to the said email and how this email is called "more armies"? -- [[User:Bad Graphics Ghost|The BGG]]
:See [[Talk:more_armies#Email_sequel|here]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== B4KD0R H4XX0R==

Anyone else catch the 1337/L337/LeeT in the brochure that read "Backdoor Hacker?"

== Benedetto!==
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? -
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct? -
[[user:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that the memorial of Bennedetto counts as a character appearance as much as stuffed Strong Bad suplexing a cougar does. {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

My vote is that Bennedetto isn't so much a character as it is just an average everyday popcorn maker that Homestar, in all his geniusness, thinks is a character named Bennedetto. He's probably the only one who sees the memorial as an actuall memorial. To the rest of the world, the real question is: is it the same popcorn maker? Who can really say?--[[User:69.29.135.247|69.29.135.247]] 18:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== I have made my decission ==

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&curid=34763&diff=460758&oldid=460756&rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not-yet opened STUFF==

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

He's more of a "Col-o-nel". -WeatherPerson

==Jumped in?==
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being "jumped in". [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)

Well, I remember in 5th grade we learned about gangs. (A police officer came as a special guest.) What gangs do, is they try and see how tough you are by beating the crap out of you. Then, you are in the gang, and there is bad stuff (I don't know the specifics, because I've never been in one, thankfully), like weapons and drugs. Then if you want to get out, they have to "jump you out." That means you get beaten up, but a lot harder, and some people have died trying to escape/get out of gangs. [[User:Tgcdse|Tgcdse]]

==Firebert to Trogdor==
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful. I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos. The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the "quality" of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Redheaded stepchild?==
Is it possible that "step-headed red-child" is a reference to the phrase "redheaded stepchild," meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Ditto, I've heard the phrase "gonna beat you like a red-headed step-child", and I've heard a few comedians reference the phrase. And even if it wasn't a common phrase, there'd pretty much be no other explanation for what the heck step-headed red-child is supposed to mean. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Links to toon titles ==

Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something? "which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army" looks wonky without a link or some way to identify "army" as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage. -anonymous
:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this. Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::"Once and Only Once" has little to do with this... the rule you're after is [[HRWiki:Standards#Link once|Link once]]. But I agree, things like email names should be linked every time... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::You sure 'bout that, Phlip? Email names always linked? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's tough, because if we were doing it correctly, we would probably have all the toons' names italicized. Since we don't, if you use the name of an email/toon but don't link it, it looks strange, like this: "Strong Bad's first email was some kinda robot". Especially the emails, since they're uncapitalized. So, I'm not sure that linking them all the time is the best solution, but we've got to do something to make them stand out, and italicizing them sometimes but not others would be too inconsistent... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'd say link all unless doing something major to all of 'em such as italics or quotes. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I've always thought toon titles should be linked every time. In a way, it ''is'' their punctuation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think such a change is the sort of gnome work that could be completed site-wide in a matter of days, if not hours, by one or two industrious gnomes — if there were an official decision made (e.g. always link, link once but always italicize, or whatever).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 14:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Boond? ==

What does the "Boond You Like?" poster behind Homestar mean? {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 02:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:From what I understand, it's a portmanteau of "bowl" and "spoon." That still doesn't make sense, though. -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 03:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe something to do with [[Wikipedia:War bond|war bonds]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::How 'bout "bowl", "spoon", and "would"? [[User:68.85.154.172|68.85.154.172]] 19:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mercenaries ==

The line "Mercenaries are typically known to have bad reputations" was used to explain the point of Strong Bad saying "We do bad stuff". How is this not NPOV? -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 03:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:I took that sentence out, and with NPOV, I meant the part about the missionaries. Without the missionaries bit, I didn't see much relevance in the mercenaries part of the sentence.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Poster==

should it be mentioned that the "do you has" poster, though slightly changed, has been used in a down loadable wallpaper?

:"Do you has?" reminds me of http://icanhascheezburger.com [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 07:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

::"Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?" is from [[army]], which was published in January 2004. [http://icanhascheezburger.com/2006/05/01/this-be-a-test-arr-me-matey/ ICHC's first post] is from May 2006.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== He-Man ==
So, someone thought that the Poopsmith's change into the Municipality Soldier was not related to He-Man... I thought the lightning striking the shovel was just like the special magic that changes Prince Adam into Heman... "By the Castle of Grayskull.... I HAVE THE POWER!" I would like to add it back in, but please let me know what you thing.... I think you need to be a He-Man fan to appreciate it... any takers for a debate? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:I see the resemblence, but I think it's a reference to the Marines commercials (especially given the context of the toon). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::No, I totally thought of He-Man too. The Chaps are notorious for '80s refs. ...I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::But really. Is this the place for a He-Man reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm gonna have to agree with Trey on this one. This is a clear Marine commercial reference. It also makes a lot more sense to be referencing an actual military recruitment commercial (rather than He-Man) at a Vaguely Military Career Fair. [[User:Manolios|Manolios]] 14:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::It does seem like a He-Man reference, now that you mention it. Besides, The Poopsmith doesn't almost lose his grip, like in the Marines commercial it seems to be referencing. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::::::And He-Man... does? The Marines commerical reference is patently true (it says "pooper fi" on his shield). The only reason the scene resembles He-Man at all is because the Marines commercial that it parodies kinda does. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Why is everyone acting as though the Municipality video can only be a reference to one thing and one thing only? Is it not a possibility that it references BOTH the Marines recruitment ads AND He-Man?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Because when something is clearly a reference to thing A, and kind of sorta resembles or is a stretch to thing B, then it's probably just a reference to think A alone. (It could be considered a variation of [[TTATOT]] that I will call TAOT ("this and only this").) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::As the coiner of TTATOT, I hereby give my support to TAOT. I bequeath thee! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== His left hand? ==

:The Cheat uses the marker with his [[left handedness|left hand]].

I don't want to change this yet just in case it's just my dyslexia, but I'm pretty sure the Cheat is using that marker with his right hand. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm, true, i corrected the wording, didn't think to look at the fact itself. Okay. DELETED! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Brown Ops ==

I am not 100% on this, but aren't brown ops Navy operations in coastal and riverine areas?

== What? No goofs? ==

Shouldn't there be a goofs section? I noticed that when Strong Bad gets up, you see his reflection emerge from behind the Lappy and his head is behind the fairly tattered Paper.
:I haven't seen that one yet myself. But it's a wiki; feel free to add it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:Who says he's looking at the paper? If your printer suddenly started shooting out ripped, mangled paper, would you look at the paper, or the printer? I say he's looking at the printer! --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mile reference? ==

Does anyone else think the sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Easter Egg is similar to that 1 from when he looked around in [[mile]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps, but why is that notable? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Ganglo-Saxon ==

Isn't "Ganglo-Saxon" a [[portmanteau]] of "gangly" (probably referring to the build of high-school-age students likely to be attending career fairs) and "Anglo-Saxon"? (Edit: I see now that Has Matt? has added it to the Portmanteaus page already, just not here.) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:I have no actual sources for this claim, nor do I feel like looking them up, but I'm sure Ganglo-Saxon is a (real world) reference to the popularity of vaguely military organizations (militias) among the white supremacist crowd in the United States. If no one else agrees I'll shut up but I know I've seen various news articles about neo-nazi and "white power" military organizations throughout my life.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

The music is the scene after the 2 Weeks... sound familiar. I think its from something. I'll see if I can find it to have proof.--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:[[Strongest Man In The World]], I believe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Undertaker? ==

Is it just me or does the Shady Missionary look eerily like the Undertaker from old school WWF? The facial expression is exact. --((User:Shadix))

I came in here to say that. I vote it gets added to Real World Ref. [[User:71.127.223.22|71.127.223.22]] 02:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it was the first thought that went through my mind. The grimace is unmistakeable.

== 5 Bucks ==
I can't be the only one who noticed this. Homestar saying that the "viewer" looks like he comes from "a long line of five bucks-havers" is a direct reference to the email army. However, I'm guessing maybe there are so damn many references to that email in this one that listing them all would be silly?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Joe Piscopo ==

Did I miss something? WTF does Joe Piscopo have to do with anything? --- [[User:Wfaulk|Wfaulk]] 22:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:He's listed as a client on the brochure for the On Point Kings. -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 04:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Long Sbemail ==

Apparently, the sbemail was put up for 3 weeks. Should I mention that anywhere? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 23:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I guess someone else added it. NEVERMIND'D! [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 01:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Note that [[time capsule]] spanned an even longer period of time, so there's nothing notable about the three weeks except that SB actually completed answering this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Montage ==

Does noone remember that at the end of Montage Strong Bad upgrades to an inkjet in sbemail173 and that could be why the paper is mesed up? {{unsigned|24.252.248.124|23:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)}}
:See [[more armies#Inside References]]. It's already mentioned. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:Everyone remembers. Trust me. You should drop by [http://forum.hrwiki.org/index.php the forum] some time. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 01:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

===Told Ya!===
As some of the higher-up wikiers may remember, I tried to create a page on the [[Inkjet Era]] about a month or 2 ago, but it was quickly yet vigorously discussed, closed, and deleted. I "rebeled" by making a [[Userbox]] for it on [[User:Supuhstar|my page]]. I'm not usually one to say this, (and tell me if it breaks any rules) but, '''''IN YOUR FACE!!!''''' {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

:Calm down tigger. I knew it would hapen too.
::Yes, BUT at this moment in time, we don't know whether The Paper really will be replaced (and I sincerly hope not), or if TBC are just messing with our minds. Again. Your article was probably deleted because it was pure speculation. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Man, I was worried there was nothing in this article about that! you made my day =] [[User:O a Israel|O a Israel]] 15:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

==Roman Trifold==

What the crap's a Roman Trifold? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps it's a play on the Roman trireme. A brochure of this style is refereed to as "trifold", that's for sure. The rest is a guess. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

==Helicopter==

Isn't that helicopter from TGS Issue 1? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:No, it looks totally different. Go and have a look.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::It still looks the same. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 21:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Also please note that my username was DELETED, so I had to re-register. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Email sequel ==

I believe TBC broke their own rules. Didn't they say not to email Strong Bad asking him to remake an old email? This is basically a sequel to [[army]]. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 03:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Their admonition was not to ask them to "do Trogdor again" or anything like that. And frankly, this is as much a sequel to [[origins]] and [[disconnected]] as it is to [[army]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, more of a sequel to several things. They just don't want the same question a second time. An offshoot or followup question seems to be okay, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, [[dangeresque 3]] was a sequel to [[stunt double]], so it's not unprecedented. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::There's a big difference between ''"I have three sons that wish to join the Strongbadia army. Do you have any pamphlets, brochures, video information that could assist."'' and ''"GHET HOMESTRAMY TO INVAED STONGBANDIA AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11"'' (Incidently, I was just re-watching "army" '''the day BEFORE''' this email was released. :) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat and Firebert ==

Is it fair to say that The Cheat voices Firebert in the Cheat Commando cartoons just as Crack Stuntman voices Gunhaver? Evidence to support this:
*The Cheat Commando cartoons are produced by members of the main Homestar Runner universe (hence Stuntman's message on Marzipan's answering machine). Theoretically, the other voice actors behind the CC characters exist alongside Homestar Runner, Strong Bad, etc.
*This email seems to indicate that The Cheat is making an appearance as the actor who plays Firebert.
*Firebert has never spoken English in any of the cartoons, but he made The Cheat noises in [[Shopping for Danger]].
*The Cheat also went by the name of Firebert in [[army]].
I think this makes sense, and I think it's intended by TBC, rather than simply speculation. Anyone agree or disagree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Agree on all counts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
*Isn't the real question being asked here whether Crack Stuntman is a product of Strong Bad's imagination that materializes on Marzipan's answering machine? What is REAL in the homestarrunner universe is an impossible question, although one that I think would be interesting to explore. For example, is Videlectrix a real video game company in the homestarrunner universe, or a product of Strong Bad's imagination? How could games that he conjures up in an email appear instantaneously as "real" video game cartridges, available in Free Country USA. Do we assume that Strong Bad is actually on staff at (or being plagiarized by) Videlectrix, or does Strong Bad actually have the most powerful "telekenisis" of all the characters, creating a corporation with real employees and products with the power of his mind? Is it possible that there is a sub-universe within the homestarrunner universe that is only as real to the characters as homestarrunner.com is to us? [[User:71.104.226.62|71.104.226.62]]
:What makes you think crack stuntman is a product of strong bad imagination? the cheat commandoes tv show is a real show in the HR universe, so clearly gunhaver needs a voice actor, hence a guy named crack. meanwhile, there are spin-offs, certainly, many of which are unexplained, like senor cartgage suddenly appearing, but these spin-offs should not be taken are a direct result of strong bad talking about them. -[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 03:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I guess you're right in this case, I thought that the cheat commandos were one of those things he kinda randomly starts talking about and then appears, but that's just firebert, and the cheat kinda invented him. [[User:71.104.226.62|71.104.226.62]]
:Well I agree. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

== The paper? ==

What's up with the tattered paper at the end there. Could this be the end of the paper?

:See [[montage#Fast Forward|here]], [[more armies#Inside References|here]], and on this very page: [[Talk:more armies#Montage|here]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 14:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

::In montage, it said that the paper stuck around until email 173,at which point Strong Bad upgraded to an Ink jet Printer. [[User:99.245.175.130|99.245.175.130]] 20:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar the Traitor? ==
Ok, now is it just me, or does anyone else here Homestar Talking in the Firebert Easter Egg? listen carefully, and you can hear (or might hear) a person speaking with HSR's Speech impedement. I just want to know if i'm just crazy or if it's for real before I post it. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

I turned the volume way high up, and he doesn't have his speech impediment. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 00:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

:I agree, it's not Homestar. While I DO hear someone that sounds similar to Homestar, I think they weren't INTENDED to be Homestar. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

::I'm with Bluebry here. Surely if Homestar were present in the fan-crowd, we'd have been able to see our favourite no-armed whitey's silhouette? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 22:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shady Missionaries album cover change? ==

Is it just my imagination, or did the easter egg album cover art change shortly after the release of this sbemail? I seem to remember it being cartoony and MSPaint-ish.

== Major Bludd ==

This fact was {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&diff=462615&oldid=462613 removed}}, but I think that it's very possibly true (unlike the other one that was removed with it):
<blockquote>Strong Bad's mercenary costume closely resemblances that of [[wikipedia:Major_Bludd|Major Bludd]], a mercenary from the [[Wikipedia:G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (TV series)|G.I. Joe]] cartoon series.</blockquote>
According to [[Wikipedia:Major Bludd]], Major Bludd has an eyepatch, a mustache, ''and'' a cybernetic hand. I don't know much about G.I. Joe, but this is enough to convince me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I guess I removed it too hastily. I read the part about Major Bludd's eyepatch and mustache, but I didn't read the [[Wikipedia:Major Bludd#Comic books|comic books]] section of the article, where it talks about his cybernetic hand. Since TBC reference G.I. Joe all the time with the [[Cheat Commandos]], I don't think it's wrong to assume that they were referencing Major Bludd here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
::Cool. I wasn't convinced until I read the bit about the cybernetic hand either; I'll add it back in. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Jumped in/Jumped out Gang Reference ==

In school, we learned about gangs from a police officer, and these are confirmed facts: For anyone who doesn't know, gangs "jump in" potential members. When someone chooses to join the gang (a bad choice btw, if you've never learned that), the gang beats the crap out of you to test your toughness. Then, in the gang, they have bad stuff like weopons and drugs, so if you want to get out, they "jump you out." This is supposed to be even worse, where they give you no mercy, and beat the crap and everything out of you (some people have died trying to get away from a gang they were in).
Anyways, does anyone think that we should add it as a real world reference to gangs (when sb mentions jumping in and out)?
[[User:Tgcdse|Tgcdse]]
:It's already mentioned in [[more armies#Explanations|Explanations]]. But I don't think it explains what "jumping out" is, so you might want to add that information to the fact that's already there. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== 65lb Cardstock ==

65lb Cardstock is likely a real-world reference to Kraft paper, generally used for making tubes for various use in pyrotechnics, sold as 'kraft paper', made with the Kraft process. "65lb" means that 500 square meters of the paper weighs in at 65lbs, generally it is sold in 40, 50, 60, and 70lb strengths. 65lb is just below the highest quality. I don't know if its worth mentioning or not, so I will let you guys decide. -Xeno [[User:70.56.206.2|70.56.206.2]] 19:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Regular paper is also sold in varying weights - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_density#Basis_weight. --[[User:207.207.83.16|207.207.83.16]] 00:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Firebert Vs. Trogdor ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat does not receive any visitors until he replaces "[[Firebert]]" with "[[Trogdor]]". It is strongly implied that his initial unpopularity is due to the name "Firebert", which was criticized in [[army]] and again in [[Shopping for Danger]].}}
{{stuffverdict|23:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)|16:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)|accepted|15|4|more armies}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, check me out, it's in back of my head! ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's head is behind The Paper when he comes back to look at it.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)|20:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)|declined|16|6|more armies}}

== An Aussie SBMAIL??? ==

Awesome, does anyone else know if this is the first Australian email?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, [[crying]] was the first [[Strong Bad Email By Place#Australia|from Australia]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

*We don't know which ones were the first. [[homsar]] could have been the first (although I don't know if Vinnie is an Australian name). [[butt IQ]], and all the other ones with no address are possibilities. Nobody knows.

== And they feed the king through a tube? ==

Would the scene of the KOT eating giblet gravy count as feeding him through a tube? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:The reason I asked was because I thought if it did, we could write an article about [[Feeding Through A Tube]] because there were also references in [[No Hands on Deck!]] and [[looking old]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Are you good at video games? ==

I don't know if this is noteworthy, but seems to me that Homestar's asking whether or not the implied scoutee was good at video games was a reference to the real world Army's (American) semi-recent practices aimed at getting gamers to join the army. Most notably their creation of the video game, army simulator hybrid "America's Army." [[User:70.146.127.219|70.146.127.219]] 06:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:mayhaps--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 06:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Deck Talkin's? ==

Perthy. Paul. Perfect Paul is a Dectalk TTS voice. Andy similarity? -Alex H. --[[User:68.74.58.104|68.74.58.104]] 01:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:Nope. SB wouldn't know about TTS. I don't think '''TBC''' knows about TTS. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 01:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::Of ''course'' they do! TTS = Text To Speech. Visor Robot. Senior Mortgage. Everybody to the limit. Not only to TBC know about it, they ''use'' it! - Alex H.

== Stinkoman 20X6 homage? ==
Do you think that the "Black Ops" picture reminds you of the scene in Stinkoman 20X6 when Stinkoman dives away from the explosion of An Ice Machine? Strong Bad is diving in a similar way. Do you think it's a homage?

:No, I think it's just a typical action cliche. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 22:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

== Desk ==

Hey-don't know where these go.
*On the right side of homestar's desk, The lines on the wood extend off the edge
*Also on the right side, there is a tiny blue area in the red.
These are much, '''much''' easier too see in the flash file.--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 15:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

==In fact, it's going on right now!==

I was just wondering, should it be an inside reference that the Military Fair isn't going on for three weeks? (i.e., "The fact that the Military fair wasn't happening for 3 weeks references how events related to sbemails are always happening the same day") [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 00:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Just an after thought: If there isn't already, there should be a running gag page for "x is happening right now!" or something similar. [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]]
:If you want an article, give me a 3rd example. I can only name 2 off the top of my head (more armies and [[business trip]]). [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
::<s>How about [[strong badathlon]]? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)</s>
:::Don't forget [[monster truck]]: ("In fact, I think there's one coming up this..." "SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SOMEDAY!"){{User:The Chort/sig}} 22:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Well if we could find enough examples, we would still have to come up with a good article name. Nothing is popping up in my head right now... [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 03:00, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

My reply: What is a military fair, and why is it relevant? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:Reply for OptimisticFool: SB says ''nothing'' similar to this post's title in strong badathlon. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I just remembered that in [[impression]], he claims he was just on his way out the door to the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:07, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

== The hands... ==

I think I have a halloweeen costume with the Shady Missionary's hands. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Different Town Visuals

Bellstrom — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:24:43 GMT

Bellstrom: *sigh*

These are the visuals that occur during [[different town]].

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=300 | Lyrics !! width=600 | Visuals
|-
|Weeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhllllllll,—|| Strong Bad types "Weeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhllllllll".
|-
|—the Poopsmith, he could talk— (Hello!) || Cut to The Poopsmith shoveling whatsit. The Poopsmith says "Hello!" in a surprisingly deep voice.
|-
|And Marzipan would rock- || The screen slides to the right, where Marzipan is standing in front of a wall of amplifiers marked 'Marzipan'. She is dressed in heavy metal garb and is playing a guitar decorated with a skeleton pattern. Marzipan wails on her guitar.
|-
|And The Stick would be this big old tree that'd try to eat everyone except-|| Slide to right to The Stick. The Stick turns into a big tree with a scary mouth and branches which look like claws.
|-
|The Cheat and me... || A photo appears, showing the tree with Strong Bad and The Cheat hanging out with it.
|-
|(AND ME!)|| Strong Mad appears from behind the left border of the photo.
|-
|(We'll see.)|| Strong Mad looks shocked.
|-
|And The King of Town would be underground in a-|| Slide left to the field where Strong Bad is singing, shaking his head to the music.
|-
|box filled up with peas... (I hate peas!)|| Pan down to reveal a large crate labeled "A MILLION [[PEAS]]" buried underground. A cut-out from the crate appears to reveal The King Of Town inside surrounded by peas.
|-
|(I know!) || Strong Bad appears in the lower-right corner of the screen, wearing a miner's hard hat. The cut-out disappears. Pan up to Bubs' Concession Stand.
|-
|Bubs would give away flame throwers || The stand is surrounded by [[Bubs's Flamethrowers|flamethrowers]] and has a sign that reads "Please, Take SEVERAL".
|-
|that shoot chocolate hundred-dollar bills... (Imitation chocolate!) || Bubs begins firing chocolate-covered money from one of the flamethrowers.
|-
|And my stupid baby brother would have been born with horns and a tail... || Pan right to reveal Strong Sad. Strong Sad sprouts demon horns and a tail.
|-
|(I'm evil.) || Strong Sad looks down sadly as he says this.
|-
|And Coach Z would wear this cool jacket. (Check it out, yo!) || Pan right to reveal the athletic field. Coach Z is standing there wearing an orange jacket. He turns to reveal the back of his jacket. It reads "Totally Style" and has a picture of a thumbs-up.
|-
|And Homestar just couldn't hack it. || Pan right again. Homestar Runner is standing in the field.
|-
|(I quit!) || Homestar Runner rips the star off his shirt and throws it to the ground, angrily.
|-
|And Pom Pom wouldn't change at all, 'cept he'd look like an ABA basketball. || Homestar starts stomping on the star. A collector's sports card floats onto the left side of the screen. It shows a picture of Pom Pom with a basketball. Another card appears on the right, this time showing Pom Pom with his body changed to a red, white and blue ABA basketball. The screen goes black.
|-
|Two, three, four. || Fades in to a close-up of Strong Bad's mouth.
|-
|And this little weirdo... || Fade out to a wide shot, revealing Strong Bad wearing a partially-open blue shirt and white pants. A spotlight turns on in the background, revealing Homsar. He silhouettes.
|-
|...would be a modestly hot girl to help me through the hard times. You know, the kind that are only sorta hot so || Homsar's silhouette morphs into a silhouette of a modestly hot girl.
|-
|they don't mess around with other guys. || Modestly Hot Homsar un-silhouettes. She is wearing Homsar's bowler derby and a blue one-piece swimsuit with the word 'homsar', and she has brown hair and pink lipstick.
|-
|(DaAaAa, I'm forever your girl!) || Cut to a closeup of Modestly Hot Homsar. Modestly Hot Homsar's hat falls off the back of her hair and floats away. A crowd is heard cheering.
|}

[[Category: Music Video Visuals]]

User talk:Sam the Man

Bellstrom — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:03:42 GMT

Bellstrom: /**/I can guess that you're online, so,

== Leaving ==
Are you okay Sam? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 19:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:Nobody is mad at you. Hey, we all have a past. Heck, look at mine. I got blocked before. But that's behind me now. It's alright. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 20:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't leave! [[User:Mr. 567|Mr. 567]] 20:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Sam, I don't know why you are leaving but you shouldn't go. If you could not help, just keep trying. If you did something bad, it's ok. We don't want you to leave. You welcomed me to the wiki. If you want to leave it's ok. We'll miss you.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 20:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:Sam, I'm sorry to hear that you've chosen to leave. I think you've done a lot of good work on our articles during the time you spent here. I understand that you've chosen to leave because of a recent conflict regarding a post on a new user's talk page. Please don't feel bad about that; I think you have a lot of potential, and I've seen quite a bit of improvement in the quality of your talk page posts during your time on the wiki.

:I understand your decision to leave, and if you're feeling strained by things in real life (your parents, etc.), as you mentioned, then taking a break might be a good thing. I just want to let you know that you're welcome to return at any time, and I'm free to discuss anything you want about the reason you left.

:Take care, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:13, 16 Dismember 2007 (UTC)

Wait a Sec, You ain't leaving the fanstuff are ya? [[User:Sephiroth|Sephiroth]] 20:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I wonder how many times you'll say you are leaving this wiki! But, you misspelled "however" on your userpage, you're gonna have to be blocked for that :P Have a good rest of the year. See you when you get back, 
:{{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::Wait, BLOCKED? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:08, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:::That was a joke, as shown by me putting a :P after what I said. And if you already know that, never mind it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::::If we blocked people for misspelling things on userpages, who would be left here? ;-) Anyway, Sam, have a good break, and I hope you'll come back refreshed. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm gonna miss your butt dance sig!:p see ya when you come back!--{{User:Geoblu2/sig}} 04:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Oh, Sam the Man, I pine for you! We sure had some great times, bro. In memoriam. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC). (Oh, wait, you're not dead. Good. I thought they got you with a stake through the heart. Have a good break.)

== Saved a copy ==

Incase you don't want to leave, I saved a copy of your page when it was your birthday. I went into the history then edit and copied everything. We are going to miss you.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 20:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC) : (
:That's ok, but the history will never go away, ever. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 21:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== Subpages for deletion ==

Hey Sam. I noticed you left three pages marked for deletion when you decided to take a break. Did you really mean for those to be deleted, or did you just forget to untag them? If you'd still like them deleted, just say so here, otherwise just untag them. Thanks! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Opps. That's just me in anger. Save them. I'm off to Burmuda now! (Not really. Enjoying my wikibreak). {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 01:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::Okay. Don't forget that you need to take the deletion tags off in that case. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Concerning Justin ==

Hi, Sam, there are still some things we need to work on when dealing with newer users. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Justin_Master_of_Nature&diff=prev&oldid=529566 Here] you are improving in writing your messages, but you still need to polish it up. For example, "you making way to many subpages" has two problems: first, it needs to be "you ''are'' making way ''too'' many". (There are also other parts that need proofreading that I won't discuss.) Second, the problem isn't really that he's making too many subpages; it's that the subpages do not comply with our policy. It would have been best to link to our policy, [[HRWiki:User space#What about user subpages?|like this]].

Also, when Justin became disruptive (and yes, he was disruptive, you are right about that), you began to use some alarmed-sounding language, like the edit summaries [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Justin_Master_of_Nature&curid=39847&diff=529589&oldid=529586&rcid=486423 here] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trey56&curid=9706&diff=529587&oldid=529582&rcid=486421 here]. This is a bad idea because it tends to make the situation worse: it does the opposite of calming the person down. It also was a bad idea to edit war with OptimisticFool over his userpage. If you disagree with someone else about what's acceptable on a userpage, ask a sysop to intervene.

I say this not to be overly critical, but because we do still need to present a professional, tactful and calm voice to our new users, even if they're disruptive. Therefore, please read the messages you write to users carefully and make sure they're clear and grammatically correct. And if they become disruptive, be calm in return (if you have a hard time with this, consider just waiting it out until someone else deals with the situation). Keep these in mind, and you should be on the road to doing better. Deal? Deal. OK, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
:Also very important: if you suspect that a user is a sock, please do not ever post that suspicion on the user's talk page. If turns out that you're wrong and it's just a new user, one of the first things that new user will see is that accusation. Instead, ask a sysop to deal with it. My talk page is always open for this. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

== New here ==

Hi,Sam.This is Katonator.[[User:Katonator 3000|Katonator]] ;">[[User:Katonator 3000|3000]] 15:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, hi. What's up? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 I like Strong Bad.I was wondering if I could check the SBA.[[User:Katonator 3000|Katonator]][[User Talk:Katonator 3000|3000]] 05:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

This is also a new user...sorta it is Coach B and I want to be part of the Strong Bad Alleigence too!{{User:Coach B/sig}}17:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

== Hello! ==

Hello, Sam. I am the same age as you! Plus, I love sports, video games, and Homestar Runner.com! I was wondering... can I join your SBA club? Please? Thanks! [[User:Hooray4homestar]]
:That's great. But about the SBA, are you a total Strong Bad? No you has what it takes? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I has what it takes. I think Strong Bad rocks! He has the ladies all up ons. [[User:Hooray4homestar]]
:Okay, now I'm wondering if my friend, [[User:Hooray4Trogdor95]] and I can both join the club. We're both HUGE Strong Bad fans. We are loyal to Strong Bad! [[User:Hooray4homestar|Hooray4homestar]] 20:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Last warning? ==

I'm kind of curious how you're going to back up the "last warning" you gave Justin. Last I checked you don't have access to the block feature. In other words, leave messages if you have to, but leave "last" warnings to the sysops. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== Aren't you gone yet? ==

I thought like 2 weeks ago you were leaving.
:Apparently, he decided not to, which is good. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Weclome Back! ==

Hi, you were gone briefly in 2007, so it's good to see you back! {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:I don't think he was ever gone, even though he did once {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Sam_the_Man&oldid=527784 say that he was going}}. Still, it's good to see that you're still here, Sam. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

== Reply to your deleted comments ==
I'm sorry, Sam, we know you are trying to helpful. But unfortunately, you aren't succeeding. You say you're not trying to start fights, and I believe you. Nonetheless, fights do start when you talk to new users often enough that we have no choice but to restrict you on this. We've tried to give you advice several times, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in.

I know you are trying to be helpful, and I would encourage you to be helpful in some other way, as It's dot com has said above. You could also take advantage of his offer of help on IRC (I can probably help out with this, too, if you'd like.)

We don't want to discourage you from contributing, but we can't have the disruption that results from your interaction with new users any longer, even if it's not intentional. I'm sorry. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:Sam, I really don't understand what you are doing, recently. You have been asked several times not to do [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Justin_Master_of_Nature&diff=532854&oldid=532832 this] anymore. Can it really be so hard to stay away from edits of this kind and simply contribute to the wiki? Also, that edit summary was way out of order after what It's dot com and Heimstern asked you. As Heimstern said, this behaviour is disruptive to the wiki, and you're not helping anybody. Please stop it right now. In addition to this, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Sam_the_Man&diff=532851&oldid=532850 threatening to vandalize] is not acceptable, and you know it. Maybe it really is a good idea for you to take a break and cool down a little. When you come back, please have another read of our comments on your talk page, and check out your old edits. Maybe with a clear head, you'll see what went wrong. See you then,{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome Back ==
Yo, welcome back to the wiki. [[user:The-homsarrunner|The-homsarrunner]] 6:34 Jan,13,2008

Hey, I'm glad that you're back, Sam. [[User:Hooray4homestar|Hooray4homestar]] 22:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== SBA ==
Sam the Man, are you sure that I don't has what it takes to join the SBA? I'd really like to join... [[User:Hooray4homestar|Hooray4homestar]] 23:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== COME BACK! ==

Please come back to the fanstuff wiki. We all miss you. Please reconsider leaving, everyone is sad. We all appoljize for our actions.--[[User:Kirbychu HR'D|Kirbychu HR'D]] 22:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

== I can guess that you're online, so, ==

DON'T LEAVE THE FANSTUFF!!!! T-T I didn't want you to leave! I was just being a jerk because I'm a n00b and I naturally defend new users (wrongly) accused of something bad! Besides, by leavng, you're making Kirby cry! <(T-T<) SS might block you for saddening his-Wait. What IS SS' relation to Kirbys anyway? Missing you always, {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 23:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Cheat Commandos Playsets

Bellstrom — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:40:06 GMT

Bellstrom:

You know, they have enough people to put out a Series 2 of Figures:
Flashfight, Reinforcements, Foxface, Ripberger, Blue Lazer Minion with the 2 Blue Lazer Babies, sergant Marshie and Fightgar (Was it him?) in a grandma disguise.

Any comments? Stuff?

I love the song that it plays on this page! LOL! It cracks me up! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 04:01, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I don`t know how you print them out,every time I try to print them
out its like the thing is to big please help out.

Well, Anonysaurus, what I did was simple: 1.I saved them. 2.I opened them in a picture editor such as ''Paint''. 3. I went to ''Print Setup''. I checked to see everything with the printer was in place a/ correctly set. 4.I printed them. 5.Did what anyone with these thing would do.
Hope that helps. [[User:Homfrog|Homfrog]] 12:44, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

On the flash file, keep right clicking, then clicking rewind, and don't wait for the music to stop. You can have the music on like 6 times at the same time [[User:68.63.159.4|68.63.159.4]] 14:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's an alternative if you use Firefox;
#File -> Print Preview
#set size to "shrink to fit"
#Print_of_it.exe
Try it. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 22:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
== Chair ==

Can someone help me with putting together Reynold's chair? I have attempted to accomplish it on two separate occasions and failed. That thing is a monstrosity. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Store Freebies

Bellstrom — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:45:52 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Incorrect... */

=== Old Freebies? ===

It says that with the old freebies that less than $25 is the coasters, $25-$50 is the pins, and $75-$99 is the series 2 figurines. That can't be right. What about $50-$75? Or above $100? [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 18:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

:It's possible we don't know that information. Unfortunately, we can't just Google the answer because it may be an unreliable source. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::Well I think we should do something to signify that you got something. It seems almost misleading and shows that you get nothing if you order between 50 and 75. Most people have the common sense, but you never know. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 18:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

:::I have taken the liberty of stubbing the Old Freebies section. So... yeah. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

== Incorrect... ==

Ummm, they ''do'' offer the old freebies still, I got one of them.
:Which one? {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 20:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Happy Dethemberween

Bellstrom — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:39:52 GMT

Bellstrom: /* About Brundo... */

== Magic or Badges ==
Does [[Brundo the Decemberween Yak|Brundo]] say I lost all my badges or magic?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 14:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:I definitely hear a distinct "m" sound — "magic". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

::Change the transcript someone.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 14:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Firsts ==
I'm pretty sure this is the first time we've seen the thnikkachoir. Additionally is it the first time we've seen homestar in bed without his "tee-shirt + robe" nightwear? -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's definitely the first appearance of the choir... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Phone Calls? ==
It sounds to me like Strong Bad says "cold calls" instead of "phone calls," which makes a little more sense (to me, at least). [[User:Manolios|Manolios]] 15:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded and edited. It's a phrase not everyone would recognize, so I'll work up an Explanation too. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Definitely agree, makes sense in the sentence and it's pretty unmistakably "cold."--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 15:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== mp3 ==

is it illegal to put up an mp3 of the song for download?
:Nah, we don't need to — in fact, I bet you one e-doughnut that it'll be this week's [[Quote of the Week]], with better audio quality! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::well, next week's probably --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 18:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== St. Olaf ==

Removed this Real-World Reference:
*The page title references the town of St. Olaf, which is the birthplace of Rose from [[Wikipedia:The Golden Girls|The Golden Girls]]. The show has been mentioned twice before, in sbmail [[helium]], and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
We can STUFF this if other people think the connection is strong enough, but note that St. Olaf was a [[Wikipedia:Olaf II of Norway|real saint]]. If there's any legitimate reference to be made here, it's to him, but I don't see the need, personally. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:I agree that the reference is more likely to the saint, and I think it's worth a mention in Real-World References, personally... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

::Go for it if you want. I just think it's a little tenuous. The fact is, it's equally likely TBC ''were'' thinking of the fictional town in Minnesota when they used that name. We've got no details on the "character", so it's impossible to tell. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Meh, there's a [[Wikipedia:St. Olaf College|college]] named after him too, along with probably a bunch of other things. But they're all named after ''him'', so I think it's fair to add a small ref about him — I'll go do it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Ah, yes, the good ole St. Olaf Oles. Which, it's been speculated, is where the Golden Girls writer got the name in the first place. Oh, Olaf, you never foresaw any of this when you subdued the Orkneys, did you? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

St. Olaf isn't a town, it's a college. The town it's in is called Northfield.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:It's a [[Wikipedia:St. Olaf, Minnesota|fictional town]], actually. Although there is a [[Wikipedia:St. Olaf Township, Minnesota|real St. Olaf Township]] in Minnesota, it's not the town the Golden Girls character grew up in, nor did she attend St. Olaf College. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 22:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't the St. Olaf College choir do a televised concert every Christmas? I'm sure I've seen it advertised on PBS (though I've never actually watched it.) —[[User: Silly Dan|Silly Dan]] [[User talk:Silly Dan|(talk)]] 23:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, they definitely do. [[User:12.214.16.163|12.214.16.163]] 22:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

==Stop Motion==

On the forum, I had suggested a Rankin Bass stop motion parody. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm so proud of you. {{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 22:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Wait..What? ==

Thnikkaman cant be the true meaning of decemberween, he's just a character or event that happens, how can this defie EVERYTHING that everybody said in the decemberween pagent? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 18:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
: I think you're reading way too far into it. Equate the Dethemberween Thnikkaman to Santa Claus. Many children's specials treat Santa as the "king" of Christmas or whatever. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
: ...because it's a crazy cartoon with no real meaning or chronology, just whatever they feel like putting in?--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm thinking that strong bad belives that getting unmarked media cds from the Dethemberween Thnikaman is the "True Meaning of Decemberween." Decemberween proably '''has no meaning''', anyway.
*Besides, the true meaning of Decemberween is "a non-denominational alternative to Christmas". ^_^ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

==Little Debbie==
Aren't those Little Debbie Holiday Cakes?--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Oops! It was already noted! --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:45, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== It's the THnikkaman, Strong Brown! ==

I know this is tenuous, but could Strong Bad's insistence on the Thnikkaman be a parallel for Linus' insistence on the Great Pumpkin? -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
:It's a parallel to the time he wanted somebody to build a [[monument]] to the Thnikkaman even though he doesn't know what he does. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:58, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== About Brundo... ==

If he's the Decemberween Yak, could he be a refereence to Ren & Stimpy? Most notably, the Shaved Yak/Yak-Shaving Day. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 21:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
: That would seem to be quite a stretch.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 23:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::How? One; they're both yaks. Two; they are seemingly major parts of a holiday. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Cleanup Tag ==

I don't think i've ever seen a cleanup tag on a toon before, but this transcript has no stage directions once the song starts, hence needing to be fixed. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe it's one of those "music video" things, where the stage direction stuff goes on a separate page. ...Except this hasn't happened yet. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think that a separate visuals page is necessary, the scene doesn't change that rapidly. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Quh-quh-quh-quh-questionable Fact ==

<blockquote>The sheriff vaguely resembles [[Wikipedia:Burl Ives|Burl Ives]], who played Sam the Snowman in ''[[Wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]],'' and his voice with the "Bu-bu-bu-bu-bye" would appear to be based on [[Wikipedia:Bing Crosby|Bing Crosby]]. (Bing Crosby himself was never animated in one of these specials, although the reference may be due to many people mistaking the [[Wikipedia:Fred Astaire|Fred Astaire]] role from the 1970 ''[[Wikipedia:Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town (TV special)|Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town]]'' as being performed by Bing Crosby.)</blockquote>

This fact is useless. How can the voice be based on if Bing Crosby wasn't even in a Rankin/Bass special? The Sheriff is most likely just based on a stereotypical Christmas narrator. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:I think the fact could be compressed to something like "The sheriff resembles Sam The Snowman from ''[[Wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]]''." and incorporated into the fact right above it. I agree that most of the stuff you quoted is dubious, but I think that the sheriff is intentionally similar to Sam The Snowman (compare the beard, etc.). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Actually, I'm thinking it was a broader reference than that. Celebrities from the Golden Age of Hollywood were enlisted to narrate most of Rankin and Bass's Christmas specials (http://christmas-specials.wikia.com/wiki/Rankin/Bass#narrators). Bing Crosby was a contemporary of most of the actors on that list, and is well known for his own Christmas albums and specials. Also, the voice was definitely Bing Crosby, regardless of his having never been in a R&B special. Obviously you didn't watch enough Looney Tunes as a kid. I suggest you rectify this immediately. [[User: nekouken|nekouken]] 19:03, 17 December 2007 (CST)

:The reason to nod to Bing Crosby is simple, and has nothing to do with Rankin/Bass. At least not directly. Bing starred in [[Wikipedia:White Christmas (film)|White Christmas]] and made by far the most famous recording of the title song by Irving Berlin. Also, if you still doubt that "buh-buh-buh" points directly at Bing, take a look at the page linked to from the [[Talk:Brundo the Decemberween Yak and the Sword of St. Olaf#Crooner Deathmatch|Decemberween Yak talk page]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::But that's not proof of a ''reference''. Something that could be, and there's a thing over here that's like that, and I heard this deal the other day, does not a reference make. The fact that Bing Crosby recorded White Christmas doesn't make the case for reference any stronger.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 07:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Since details about the stop motion stuff is no longer on this page, see [[Talk:Brundo the Decemberween Yak and the Sword of St. Olaf]] for the rest of this discussion. --13:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Deborah or Debra? ==

In the transcript it says Deborah, but I'm sure It's Debra...
: "Deborah" is a name. My spell checker accepts "Debra" but... I've got a feeling it's not considering the ''name''... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:32, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::The name comes from the Hebrew name "דבורה" - pronounced "D'vo-rah" Not hard to get from D'vorah to Devorah to Deborah. "Deborah" is the correct spelling. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Hmm, I hear two syllables (from both Marzipan and Strong Bad) — Debra. Maybe some people pronounce "Deborah" with two syllables as well, but I use three. Also, I've definitely seen "Debra" as a name before: see [http://www.google.com/search?q=debra+wiki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a lots of examples here]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Or even [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/debra here] (which may explain the spellchecker thing in its entirety). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::The "O" in "Deborah" is not heavily pronounced and sometimes not pronounced at all. That's the right way to spell it. Is "Debra" a real name? Perhaps, but never in my life have I seen it and the word conjures other images. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::It's definitely a name; I don't think it means what you think it means ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::What does he think it means? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Wait, nevermind... i got it. She's drowning in the mini golf pool. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, that and (to a lesser degree) one other thing, but neither of them is a woman's name. Doesn't matter; I have always seen the name spelled "Deborah". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::(Y'know, over the years I've noticed that there's more than a thing or two that you've never seen, done, or eaten, but that others find commonplace. Maybe you're not as well versed as you thought you were. I for sure would have thought you would have heard of [[Wikipedia:Debra Messing|Debra Messing]] or [[Wikipedia:Debra Barone|Debra Barone]].) I myself did think of Deborah when I watched the toon. I think I can even make out a slight /o/ sound as Strong Bad and Marzipan say the name, and they both have a rounded "O" mouth for a frame each time they say it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::There's also [[Wikipedia:Debra Winger|Debra Winger]], [[Wikipedia:Debra Marshall|Debra Marshall]], [[Wikipedia:Debra DiGiovanni|Debra DiGiovanni]], [[Wikipedia:Debra Wilson|Debra Wilson]], [[Wikipedia:Debra Jo Rupp|Debra Jo Rupp]], seriously the list goes on. I'd like to know where you've been living to have ''never seen Debra'' before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::: As I was about to say to Dot Com before you Edit Conflict'd me, the ones he'd mentioned I'd never seen written out. I can't even come up with the identities of half the "Debras" you just mentioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::That would mean you've never watched "Will & Grace" before which is... well, unusual, but whatevs. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Or that I never paid close attention to the credits. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Deborah and Debra are both correct spellings of the name. I've known people with both variations. Unless we see in text from TBC themselves, we have no way of knowing which spelling they were referring to. -- S
:See, here "Deborah" is pronounced "deb-uh-ruh" while "Debra" is "deb-ruh". There's a real difference. The less ambiguous spelling should be used: Debra. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that I only hear two syllables, and "Debra" is how I read it in my head when I heard the name. On the other hand, they do definitely make the "O" shape with their mouths when they say the name, which usually means there's an O in the word that TBC are lip-synching. So, I dunno... -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 10:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Except that a lot of people pronounce "Deborah" as just two syllables. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Yup. It's just like the argument of [[Senorial Day|gamble vs. gambol]]; lots of people said that Cardgage OBVIOUSLY pronounced the latter word and it didn't sound like the proper pronunciation of the former, apparently unaware that the two words are complete homophones. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Google 'em. Deborah is far more common, nearly 2:1. Let's go with the more common until corrected by a QotW or something, if it comes to that. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Disagree. It's not "just like" since Senor C's tendency to use gibberish and malapropisms adds significant ambiguity. In this case, it's SB and Marzi speaking, so I don't think we have any reason to believe they'd both use a non-standard pronunciation of "Deborah", even if it is common. - [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 07:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But it's ''not'' non-standard. That's the point. "Debra" is the non-standard spelling. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Maybe it's just different parts of the country (or different countries, even, dunno where you're from, DAGRON), but I would consider pronouncing Deborah with two syllables as the standard pronunciation, and
would hear a three-syllable version as over-articulated. Oh, and I agree with using the spelling "Deborah" per Jay and Optimistic Fool. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:02, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, I have to concede that it seems that both pronunciations for Deborah are equally accepted, as evidenced by a brief google. I guess my main point is that the pronunciation of Debra is unambiguous. (To DG: Debra's not a non-standard spelling by any means. Less common, p'raps, but not unusual.)
::::::::I don't mean to belabor the point, especially seeing as I'm not particularly opposed to "Deborah" being used. A Sketchbook of Marzi's cousin would help disambiguate, though =D -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 08:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Quasi-related, and forgive me if it's already been addressed or if I'm submitting it wrong: is the phrase 'better than Debra' intended to evoke the band name Better Than Ezra? --ham
:I admit that that's what comes to mind every time I see the phrase, but I don't think it's a reference. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 16:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sheriff of Town ==
Is it just me, or does the 'Ween Sheriff look like the KOT in an olde Weekly Stetchbook with him in Western apparel? Enough for an inside ref?
:It's clearly a reference to at least the Burl Ives-voiced snowman from Rudolf the Red-Nosed reindeer. Anything more than that would be too much of a stretch for the information available.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Perhaps, perhaps not. Here are the images in question for reference: 
[[Image:Sketchbook061103.png|150px|sheriff of town]][[Image:Dethemberween-stopmotion.png|150px|Sheriff of Ives]] 
--[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 01:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::Coincidence. The Sheriff of Town is supposed to resemble [[The King of Town]], and the sheriff in this toon does not look at all like the King. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The hat is different for one thing, and the mustache has been changed from white to brown. The SOT is not wearing a star badge. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:This would explain why the Rankin/Bass snowman turned into a sheriff. The Brothers Chaps may have given him a star because it was too hard to give him the gun. That said, I think it's a coincidence. The sheriff's beard seems clearly modeled after the Burl Ives snowman:
:[[Image:BurlIvesSnowman.jpg|150px]]
:Any other thoughts on why this dude's a sheriff? ~ [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 21:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

::Nothing coherent. But there's a tenuous association with the narrator of ''Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town'', voiced by Fred Astaire, in that they're both uniformed municipal officials. He was a mail carrier. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 23:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I thought of the mail carrier, too. Both are a stretch, but I'd back that before I'd back a reference to SOT. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 08:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== No Easter Egg At First ==

The page says that clicking "dang" used to replay the toon in "fixed goofs." That may be true, but I watched the toon very shortly after its release, and I'm pretty sure there was ''nothing'' clickable at the end. I don't recall whether I specifically clicked the "dang" but I did the tab trick to search for clickable spots, and only the "back" button showed up. [[User:Almsfothepudgy|Almsfothepudgy]] 01:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

The very same thing happened to me. (I'm just a guest)

== "What About Strong Sad and Deborah?" ==

is it too much of a stretch to call "deborah" an inside reference to [[senior prom]] when homestar mistakes coach z with an unheard of (at the time) "deborah"? i want feedback before i or someone else adds it --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmmmmm.....an intriguing possibility. I would suggest that a third reference would seal the deal. Anybody? Number three?--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 03:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::A search for the name only turned up 2 results, but Sbemail ''was'' the first thing that came to my mind at that line. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Deth vs. Dec ==

Should Dethemberween be a seperate holiday considering it has no reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]]?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 03:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think so because they're just replacing "c" with "th". {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}

::In fact, I was toying with adding this fact to Remarks or something: If you look closely at the words that float by while the choir sings, you'll see that they do indeed say "Decemberween". The "tH" sign is taped over the front layer, but you can still see the "c" in the layers behind it. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Horn v. French Horn ==

I know that the instrument depicted in the cartoon is properly called a horn (corno in Italian on most orchestral parts I've seen), in the United states it is most often referred to as the French Horn. Additionally, there is a character called [[The Hornblower]] who plays an instrument which could be called a horn. In the interests of clarity should we not refer to it as a French Horn here on the page for this toon?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 09:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:I'll second that. The term "horn" is terribly ambiguous to anyone who doesn't spend most of their time inside a symphony hall. (Look at big band music, for example, where all brass instruments, and even saxes and clarinets, are routinely called "horns".) I'll fix. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::The term isn't correct, and shouldn't be used. The link to Wikipedia is enough to show what we're talking about. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::A little more detail on why this isn't a good solution: While the word French horn is in fact commonly used in everyday circles, it's rarely used in professional writing, and thus is not really appropriate for an encyclopedic source. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The pedant in me knows that you're right and applauds it, but this feels to me like one of those cases where pedantry flies in the face of common sense. Giving this specific instrument the specific name of "horn" in any context where the audience are not experienced musicians causes unnecessary confusion. "Horn" sounds like a generic word even when it isn't and all too often will force the extra explanation of "I meant ''the'' horn." "French horn", on the other hand, is crystal clear to anyone with a middle school education, and immediately associated with the correct specific instrument. But like I said, you are right, so this is really me grousing about the world in general. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::We could try a wording that observes both, similar to what's used at the beginning of the Wikipedia article. That is, state the correct name, and then an "also called" type of thing after that. It preserves encyclopedic naming whilst also acknowledging a common misnomer. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Younger Strong Bad? ==

I'm not sure about this, but does it seem to anybody that Strong Bad looks younger or smaller? He looks a lot like he did when he was younger in the paper.

== the "run" ==

This'll probably get shot down, but I feel the need to say it... The "Horn run", which is repeated by Homestar as "Doodley Doodley Doo," is pretty much exactly the same as the "Shoobedy Doobedy Doo" in the song "That's Professor Hawk" from an episode of Dexter's Laboratory. Rhythm, pitch, etc.
There's a video of the song here [http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/21110/Dexter_s_Lab_That_s_Professor_Hawk.html]. The run I'm talking about happens at 23 seconds. (It may be preceded by an ad).
I know it's a stretch to think they're related, but the music from Jibblies 2 was supposedly similarly based on/inspired by the music from Killer Instinct.
-[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 14:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:A short chromatic run, either up the scale or up and back down, as a fill between phrases, is practically a musical cliché. I've heard it in plenty of places, notably "76 Trombones" from ''The Music Man'', which is much older and considerably more similar to this song. There may be an ultimate source for it, but it's definitely not Dexter's Laboratory, and it's not really relevant to try to figure it out. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, you're right. I guess the vocalization (or whatever you'd call the Doodley's) was more of what made me think of that. But essentially it's a chromatic run. Oh well, won't be the last time I make a dumb comment, I'm sure. -Dagron

== Chime Bells - Interesting or not? ==

I thought the following Remark would be interesting, at least from a music perspective, but I thought I'd put it on the Talk page for a vote first:

The "Homsar chimes" are modeled after [http://www.sawlady.com/belltypes.htm chime bells], which are struck by a mallet, rather than more typical concert [http://www.majesticpercussion.com/ross_chimes.html chimes], which are struck with a hammer.
~ [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 21:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:My vote is that it wouldn't be the nitpickiest thing I've seen survive an article, but I don't think much of it myself. The main reason is that although the chime bells do bear a striking resemblance—you'd better believe that pun was intended—to a bunch of silly yellow hats, that's a pretty obscure instrument as mallet instruments go. The sound aside, most people would probably associate that shot with [[Wikipedia:Timpani|timpani]], and with the sound they'd probably think of an exaggerated [[Wikipedia:Glockenspiel|glockenspiel]]. Also, if you worded it like that you'd get a flood of people complaining that "a mallet is a hammer!" or vice versa. (I and most other percussionists I've known have referred to a rawhide hammer for chimes as a "chime mallet".) Finally, if you decide to add it anyway, I would suggest the more explicit term "tubular bells" for concert chimes, and I would mention them not because they're "typical", but because they're what the Homsar chimes actually sound like. I've never seen malleted bells large enough to sound very much like a big ol' set of tubular bells. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 00:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, this was exactly why I considered adding the note - the visual had a weird disjoint with the audio, and the instrument was rather obscure but looked just like the hats. As an aside, I used the term "concert chimes" b/c I figured more people would understand. Here's a modified note, and any revisions are welcome:

The "Homsar chimes" are modeled after [http://www.sawlady.com/belltypes.htm chime bells], although they have the sound of [http://www.majesticpercussion.com/ross_chimes.html tubular bells] (concert chimes).

~ [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 18:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Dethemberween Thnowman ==

There's a snowman in the background at one point that resembles one of the snowmen on Strong Bad's float in the [[Fall Float Parade]]. Notable?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 00:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Do we really need this? ==

In the Easter egg, The Homsar chimes play G, F, E, and D from left to right, which correspond to the tonal 5, 4, 3, and 2 in the key of the toon's song. However, during the toon they play D/F—one chime plays two pitches, somehow—G, A, and B."

Is anybody else thinking of the Simpsons episode where Homer is the voice of Poochie? And when he answers questions?

:My friend, if I had a nickel for every Fun Fact that could be compared to that scene, I would throw them at people in the food court. From that railing, like up above. But if a handful of people find it interesting, and it's not untrue or overly speculative, it generally deserves to live. Besides, that fact was twice as long (and double-bulleted!) before I cleaned it up. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Horn Range ==

I originally wrote the fact about the horn's range not quite agreeing with the tones played during its appearance, which I phrased as "the tones ... are, at best, at the extreme low end of the instrument's range," since, as a former collegiate horn player, that was my visceral reaction. The way it's phrased now, it seems to imply that those tones are, in fact, within that range. Now, has somebody actually taken the time to find specifically which notes of which octave those are, and whether they fall within a typical player's range? [[User:24.165.178.120|24.165.178.120]] 17:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:I have absolute pitch, and can tell easily where those pitches fall. Whether or not they're in the typical player's range, I can't say for sure, but they're certainly in my range, and I'm definitely an amateur player. I should point out that the user who changed the remark on the page is also a horn player, so the edit wasn't made in ignorance. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::Are they down in the pedal range of the horn? I am a trombone player so I'm not exactly sure where it would be on the horn. Despite the image on the screen it sounded like a tuba to me.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Most horn players I've worked with are able to play in that range. The horn (I generally don't say French horn, as all the horn players I've known don't like that inaccurate name) has the widest range of all brass instruments, so while every player certainly couldn't play that low, it's not out of the range of the instrument.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 16:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Club Technochocolate ==

I see Club Technochocolate listed under "places", but I don't see it in the toon proper. Am I missing something? Are we counting the black background behind Strong Bad while he's in bed as the Club? Or is this an actual error? --[[User:69.251.13.56|69.251.13.56]] 19:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't see it either.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:41, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Who the Crap Let Strong Sad Out? ==

*Strong Sad is usually locked in the bathtub on Decemberween, however, he is present in this cartoon. 
I tried to delete this fact because I thought it could have been too early to lock him in the bathtub. Does anyone agree? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Eh......I guess we don't really ''know'' this cartoon is taking place on Decemberween, especially since it was put up a week ahead of time. I don't think it's a big deal either way, but I don't think it's worth a battle for inclusion.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 21:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== The Lake of Dreams Come True ==

Am I the only one who heard the 1st "He's the Decemberween Thnikkaman and he'll make your dreams come true" as "on the lake of dreams come true"? It would match the ice-skating clip. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Dethemberween

Bellstrom — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:09:17 GMT

Bellstrom: fixing spelling

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|dethemberween|Toikey TV|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Strong bad dream.png|thumb|"He's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman, and he'll make your dreams come true."]]

The true meaning of Decemberween is... the Thnikkaman?

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Brundo the Decemberween Yak and the Sword of St. Olaf#Brundo the Decemberween Yak|Brundo the Decemberween Yak]], [[Brundo the Decemberween Yak and the Sword of St. Olaf#The Elf|an Elf]], [[Brundo the Decemberween Yak and the Sword of St. Olaf#The Sheriff|a Sheriff]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Bubs}}/[[The Thnikkaman]], {{film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[The Classroom]], [[The Field]], [[The Office]], [[The Brick Wall]], [[Homestar Runner's House]], [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], [[Club Technochocolate]] (dance floor)

'''Date:''' Monday, December 17, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:51

'''Page Title:''' Brundo the Decemberween Yak and the Sword of St. Olaf

==Transcript==
''{Front view of the downstairs TV, a Christmas special plays on the TV. The characters appear to be made of felt, and the trees are holiday snack cakes. We see Brundo as tears fall from his eyes.}''

'''BRUNDO:''' ''{dejected}'' Oh, I lost all my magics.

'''ELF:''' Don't you see? The magic of Decemberween is inside everyone!

''{The TV cuts to a shot of a Sheriff, with Brundo and the Elf visible in the background.}''

'''SHERIFF:''' And so they returned the sword of St. Olaf to its rightful owner, and discovered the true meaning of Decemberween. Buh-buh-buh-buh-bye, kids!

''{Sheriff exits the scene, cut to a blue screen with snowflakes on it, as "The End!" appears on the screen.}''

''{Cut to a view of [[The Couch]], with every main character (except Homsar and Bubs) sitting on or around it.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Can someone please explain again what a mystical sword has to do with Decemberween?

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar sitting on the floor.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You heard that nasty ol' puppet! The magic of Decemberween is inside all of us!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, sitting on the couch with Strong Sad behind him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, that's not what Decemberween's all about!

'''STRONG SAD:''' And I suppose ''you're'' gonna to tell us—

''{Cut back to the view of the whole couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll tell you what Decemberween is all about! 
'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' ... what Decemberween is all about.

''{Stong Bad begins singing, accompanied by music, doing hand motions as he sings.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing}'' It happens each Decemberween though some would say it doesn't. The best thing that you've ever seen, even better than your hot cousin!

''{Music stops.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Better than Deborah?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{talking normally}'' Oh, maybe not better than Deborah. ''{slower and more sultry}'' Ooh, Deborah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm talking about a magic man, who defies the laws of physics. He turns Decemberween into DeTHemberween!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Tell us, man, who is it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman, and he'll make your dreams come true. No, there ain't no beatin' that holiday feelin', when he says "Shut up" to you.

'''THE THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, shut up, kid!

'''STRONG BAD:''' When the sun goes down, he creeps into town, and borrows your hedge clippers. And while you're sleeping, safe and sound, he puts blank media in your slippers!

'''COACH Z:''' It was 8-Tracks in my day!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sometimes he'll cold call random kids with discount travel packages!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{talking}'' Las Vegas? For 20 dollars a night? Thanks, Dethemberween Thnikkaman!

'''THE THNIKKAMAN:''' ''{faintly and muffled}'' Yeah, shut up kid!

'''SHERIFF:''' Yes, he's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman. Flying through the night in an unmarked van. You never know what he'll bring us when you hear those high-pitched singers!

'''SINGERS:''' Here comes the Dethemberween Thnikkaman!

'''STRONG BAD:''' One, two, three!

'''ALL CHARACTERS:''' He's the Dethemberween Thnikkaman, oh, and he'll make your dreams come true! ''{Strong Mad sings only "Dethemberween", "make", "dreams", and "true".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do-Do-La-Do-Do-Do-Doo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing}'' There ain't no ceilin' on that holiday feelin',

'''ALL CHARACTERS:''' When he says "Shut up" to you!

'''THE THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, shut up! To one and all o' dang y'all!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, just so we're all on the same page here, we are just talking about Bubs with a piece of paper taped to his chest, right? You guys? Bubs? Paper tape? Anybody?

''{With one final note, the words "yeah, shut up! to one and all o' dang y'all!" appear in a night sky, written in stars. The word "back" is written in cursive in the lower left corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on "dang" to play on the Homsar chimes.

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Cold calling|Cold calling]] is the practice of making sales calls to potential customers who were not expecting one.
*<math>\mbox{DVD}\pm\div\sqrt{~~}~\mbox{RW}</math> is a play on [[Wikipedia:DVD±R|DVD±RW]], a shorthand term for a DVD burner that handles both common types of recordable media.

===Trivia===
*The [[Telebision]] has been updated from its previous appearance.

===Remarks===
*The trees in the scenery of the television show are Little Debbie [http://www.littledebbie.com/products/ChristmasCakes.asp Christmas Tree Cakes].
*In the Easter egg, The Homsar chimes play G, F, E, and D from left to right, which correspond to the tonal 5, 4, 3, and 2 in the key of the toon's song. However, during the toon they play D/F—one chime plays two pitches, somehow—G, A, and B.
*The brass run played while the [[Wikipedia:Horn (instrument)|French horn]] appears on-screen is near the extreme low end of the instrument's range.
*There is a [[Wikipedia:treble clef|treble clef]] hidden in the horn's tubing.
*The Homsar chimes and the Thnikkaman singers are both instances of [[twin characters]].
*This marks the first time any character has identified The Thnikkaman as Bubs. It had been a running gag since his first appearance to wonder about his true identity.
*The Dethemberween Thnikkaman's "unmarked van" is very clearly marked with his signature "tH" symbol on the side.
*Near the beginning, Strong Sad's eyes seem further apart than usual.
*When Strong Bad answers the Thnikkaman's phone call he reaches underneath his desk to answer, making one assume he keeps his phone on the floor, as Strong Bad's desk has no drawers.
*When the Dethemberween Thnikkaman is making his calls, there's a [[sticky note]] on the cubicle wall that says "locate [[toilet]]".

===Goofs===
[[Image:DethemberweenShadesGoof.png|thumb|Levitating cool shades.]]
*The right bow of The Thnikkaman's [[cool shades]] is missing during one scene of this toon.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When the toon was first released, clicking on "dang" just replayed the toon from the beginning.

===Inside References===
*One of the travel advertisements is for [[Scalding Lake]].
*Strong Bad's lab coat is from [[technology]].
*The Thnikkaman's [[Baloney Sammich Truck|flying bologna van]] is actually the same van that Bubs himself used in [[Weclome Back]].
*Strong Mad is wearing the same sweater as from [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*At one point, The King of Town, Strong Sad, Homestar, and Coach Z all appear from behind Strong Mad, similar to how The Cheat, Homestar, Strong Mad, Bubs, and Coach Z all appear from behind Strong Bad in [[Some Stupid Turkey]].
*[[Senor Cardgage]] was previously mentioned to drive an unmarked van in [[Fan Costumes '06]].
*The Thnikkaman's pose when he is skating is the same one as Bubs' "[[Sketchbook 2007#SK-2007-01-18|Zzzzziiiiiiiip!]]" pose when he stands on one foot on the conveyor belt in [[the chair]].
*The name "Deborah" was previously mentioned in [[senior prom]].
*[[The VCR]] blinks 12:00 atop the TV.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Olaf II of Norway|Saint Olaf]] is a real-life saint after whom towns, colleges, and many other things have been named.
*The TV special at the beginning is a parody of the numerous [[stop motion]] Christmas specials produced by [[Wikipedia:Rankin/Bass|Rankin/Bass]] such as 1964's ''[[Wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]]''.
*The Dethemberween Thnikkaman's cry of "Yeah, shut up! To one and all o' dang y'all!" is a parody of Santa's final line in [[Wikipedia:A Visit from St. Nicholas|The Night Before Christmas]]: "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!"


==External Links==
*[[HR:dethemberween.html|Watch "Happy Dethemberween"]]
*[[HR:dethemberween.swf|View the Flash file for "Happy Dethemberween"]]
*[[Forum:13151|Forum thread re: Happy Dethemberween]]

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Talk:Happy Dethemberween

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Talk:Sketchbook

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:'''See [[Talk:Quote of the Week]] for Weeklies update checklist.'''
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== Museum Sketchbook ==

Would it be OK if someone moved the bottom section of this page to something like [[Sketchbook (Museum)]]? This page takes far too long to load on a dial-up internet connection. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 06:24, 9th of March 2005

:Hmm, I like keeping the museum ones here on the [[Sketchbook]] page, and instead moving the weekly sketchbook ones to a [[Weekly Sketchbook]] page. This would match our [[Weekly Fanstuff]] page. Any one else agree?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Actually, I like that idea, better than my own as well. Weekly Sketchbook matches the rest of the weekly updates, and is probably easier to change the links for. The only reason I suggested Sketchbook (Museum) was because I thought less pages linked/would link to it. But Weekly Sketchbook sounds great. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (GMT)

:::Done, see [[Weekly Sketchbook]]. I fixed all the links as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:48, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

''Note: The following is a copy/paste from the old Talk page''
Just a quick question. Who's gonna keep up with updating stuff like this? I know we're all busy with simply moving crap from there to here, but I dunne wanna lose anything that could be added, ya know? I'd update it myself, but I do most my wikistuff at work, so I can't make screenshots at all. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:15, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, I can do that tonight. I think I'll come up with a better format too. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:30, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

::Guh-roovay. The current one is kinda stinky anywho. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:00, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

== Fun facts? ==

Is there room for a fun facts section on this page? The Tetherball'd TTGS death is a possible reference to the first season of South Park, when Kenny died in the exact same way. --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 18:46, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

If there is, I vote Decline -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Your Fuzzy God]] 10:20, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
:Second'd this is extremly long already. But you can make a different aritcle and THEN put the link onto here. [[User:Sbmaniac|Sbmaniac]]

== "Tableization" ==

I'm glad there's finally a table for this section (as well as the weekly fanstuff.) The images being different sizes before the tables wasn't a necessarily a bad thing, I just thought it detracted from the page slightly. The use of tables did force those images that were on other sites (namely photobucket) to be uploaded to the wiki, which is a plus. I think must of us can agree that it looks better than before.
--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:19, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Comic-Book Style The Cheat==

With the introduction of the tables, I'm glad this image finally surfaced. I almost lost hope in that image ever being recovered, as it was the only image that I thought was never POSTERITY'd!! Due credit to [[User:Tom|Tom]].
--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 22:19, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Message to [[TBC]] from [[Jonathan Howe]] ==

Be sure to view the XML source of this file:
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/weeklies/weeklies.xml]

:I learned about this XML file when I was poking through these flash files: [http://www.homestarrunner.com/fanstuff.swf] & [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sketchbook.swf] when I found I couldn't view the image or the text when those two preceding files are saved remotely (i.e., on a hard drive.) '''Jonathan''' (I assume his last name is Howe, as he is a programmer) has left a message in a comment to the "'''Chapos'''" about the placement of certain "character shortcuts." He more or less 'signs' the comment with the words "Love, jonathan." I just found this rather amusing. Does anyone else? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:37, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Hmmm... Tricky. I like the base files though. Those can come in handy... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 12:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Halloween Costumes ==

If anyone can identify some of those halloween costumes from the museum sketchbook, (the last sketch), feel free to enter their names into the rollover title at the appropriate place saver. I can't really think of anything better at the moment, maybe I'll add them to the [[Halloween Costumes]] section or something later. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 12:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Images with Subtitles ==

Shouldn't the images for the Sketchbook and Fanstuff ''not'' have the captions with them? If not, the "Title" column is pretty much useless. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:24, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

It does seem redundant. It is easier to remove the "title" column, but then that text can not be found during a search. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:14, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Since the very beginning, we've always treated the text and image as one. That's how they appear, so that's how we've been reproducing them. And the additional text is for better searching. I do notice, however, that the [[Sketchbook]] article lacks the interesting descriptions the [[Weekly Fanstuff]] page affords.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:57, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Moving the page==

Shouldn't this still be under simply a 'Sketchbook' page title? Perhaps it would make more sense to move The Museum Sketchbook to just that, a 'Museum Sketchbook' page or something. I mean, when you roll over the button on the main page, all that pops up under it is just 'Sketchbook'. We're not going to change the name of 'Quote of the Week' to just 'Weekly Quote' are we? (Sorry I missed the discussion on the [[Sketchbook]] page) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 15:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Er, good point. So you're thinking we should move Weekly Sketchbook --> Sketchbook and Sketchbook --> Museum Sketchbook. That makes sense to me, but then again so did moving the weekly sketchbook section to this page. What do you think?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:01, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
::I second Tom--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:34, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Yup. I appreciate the work you went to fixing all the links, and don't like to ask you to change them back, but it really makes sense to keep the names the website came up with. I third Tom. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 14:17, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Fourth'd! </tgs> -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:51, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::Okay, then unless anyone else wants to do it, or objects in the next few days, I'm gonna do the move. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:41, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::::It should be easy, since I went through and made sure all the links were correct for the first move. I would change all the "Sketchbook" links to "Museum Sketchbook" first, then move "Sketchbook" to "Museum Sketchbook". This will create a redirect at "Sketchbook" so you can move "Weekly Sketchbook" to "Sketchbook". Then when you change the "Weekly Sketchbook" links to "Sketchbook", it will be a bit easier. If you need any help, just ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:29, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Sketch Descriptions? ==

Should we add descriptions to the sketches, like we did with the [[Weekly Fanstuff]]? Some people might have no idea what the sketches are of.--[[User:Lord Pikachon|The guy who's name you probably know]]

:It would be nice to have some links on some of the more obscure sketches (like Mashed Potato Jones or the Balding Man). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:12, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Okay, me, Trogga, and Homestar Coder have begun working on descriptions.--[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]

== Pawn of a hat? ==
I don't wat to start an edit war, but I just don't see [[Strong Sad]] as a game pawn in [[Image:problematics.PNG|this picture]]. I see it as Strong Sad's head shooting out of a magic hat. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 18:23, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I see Strong Sad's head on a game pawn, and I definately don't see it coming out of a hat. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 18:26, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Me as well -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:26, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I see what hes talking about. {{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}

::::I really wish I could find a picture on the internet, but it looks to me like SS is one of those toys that little kids play with. They're basically just comprised of a cylinder and a head. I don't know what they're called though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Ooh, I know just the things. I think my grandmother still has 'em. I'll see if I can get a pic. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::I found [http://www.andertoons.com/images/blog/LittlePeople.jpg a picture]...anyone else think that's what the sketch of SS is? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Yes, exactly! That's just what I was thinking, and have been since it was put up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::::Does anyone know what they're called? (is it "Little People"?) I think we should probably mention this on the page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::I had those as a kid, and I recall them being called "Little People". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:24, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::They're Playschool Little People, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::::::[http://www.fisher-price.com/US/littlepeople/default_flash.asp Fisher-Price], actually. And they're no longer in that classic design. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::Add'd. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

==Computer Sketch==

Can somebody read that floppy to the right of Homestar on the Comp? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:40, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Or can anybody read Basic? Does the summary mean anything in particular? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:42, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Or know what brand of computer that is? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:46, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Just looked up the basic, " 160 vlin 12, 17 at 26". 160 is the line number of the command. It means draw a vertical line from y-coordinate 12 to y-coordinate 17 at x-coordinate 26. That compy looks like an Apple II to me (and I found the "vlin" thing on an Apple II page). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:47, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::I've seen that PC before... Isn't that the one from [[Peasant's Quest Preview]]? Or is it the one from [[Puppet Time]]? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:55, 7 October 2005 (BST)
:::::Okay, I updated the page with the info Coder found. And if anybody could zoom in and read that floppy or anything, that would be awsome. And after careful cross-scruiteny, it appears that the computer used in the Sketchbook is indeed the same used by the [[Videlectrix]] people, even on the same desk. The one difference is that the logo on the keyboard (I think it was the Apple logo) is strangely absent from the [[Videlectrix]] photo. Most likely to avoid any possible legal problems and simplify it up, since they were photoshopping the [[Peasant's Quest]] image onto the screen anyways. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:43, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Consistency in dates ==

I just noticed that the date abbreviations in this page are not consistent. In general I have seen pages use 3 letter abbreviations. This is the case for most months here except: Sept, June (listed as both June and Jun) and April (also listed as Apr). I suggest that we make them all be 3 character abbreviations no more. Sounds good? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:15, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well since there was no mention either way i'm gonna go ahead and do it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== Mixed-up pictures ==

There's something wrong with my computer or something like that. In the Sketchbook window, I see the words "homestar ice crusher", but from there up it's the old picture of Strong Mad holding his mystical orbs. [http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9644/sketchbookmessedup3wr.png 1] You guys are pretty computer-savvy, anyone know what's wrong? And if not, please don't blame me. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 09:00, 24 December 2006 (EST). Well, it's actually 12:05 on January 27, 2006.
:A lot of users have been commenting on similar mysterious problems, and it likely surrounds your page cache and what cached version of what your browser is loading. In this case it's loading a recent .xml with an old picture. Try clearning your cache to see if that does the trick. I think that's what the other users recommend, and pretty much the only thing that would solve it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:13, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== none shall pass! ==

None shall pass! for a minute there i thought it read, YOU SHALL NOT PASS! for lord of the rings: the fellowship of the ring?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:I actually was thinking Monty Python and the Holy grail when I say that. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:: I agree with Inivsible Robot Fish. [[USer:Sbmaniac|Sbmaniac]]

== Commas vs. Periods ==

I'll grant that commas and periods are barely distinguishable from each other in the caption font. But you can tell the difference by looking very closely. Commas have the smallest tail imaginable. Compare:

[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/e/e9/20060119_sketchbook_orbs_up_yo.PNG orbs up, yo] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/7/79/20060209_sketchbook_nice_inking_mike.PNG nice inking, mike] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/8/81/20060216_sketchbook_none_shall_pass_eww.PNG none shall pass! eww.]

If you cannot see a slight dip (just a pixel or two) in the comma images, copy all three of them to MS Paint (or whatever), zoom in, and compare the commas and periods. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== poopertrooper? ==

On the page, it says "poopertrooper" is a reference to Super Troopers. I think it's more likely it's a refernce to pooper scoopers. -[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:39, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
:I thought of "pooper scooper" when I first saw it. Super Troopers, to me, seems a lot more unlikely. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[[IMDB:tt0247745|Super Troopers]] is a movie about state troopers, who's uniform is nowhere near to what the poopsmith wears. In science fiction, stromtroopers dress in a similar way to The Poopsmith. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
:There is no way storm troopers has any relevance here. Poopertrooper - pooper scooper is just as good as poopertrooper to super troopers. one has the same root of pooper, the other has same ending of trooper, storm trooper is just not even close and they don't look anything alike. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:37, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

:I thought it sounded like Koopa Troopas. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 23:55, 17 March 2006(UTC)

::That seems like way too much of a stretch. If they wanted to reference Koopa Troopas, it probably would have said "Poopa Troopas". [[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 02:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

:Don't get mad, I wasn't the one that edited it into the article. I only said what I thought it was at first, I wasn't like "0MG J00 5UX0R L4M0 L0L I7 I5N7 UB3R P00P3R SC00P3R I7 K00P4 7R00P4!!!!!!!!111111!!!11!!!11!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!111one" - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 02:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Chill out, I wasn't mad, I was just commenting that it seemed like too much of a stretch. [[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 20:49, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Now I'M mad that people keep changing the article cos they think my idea was right, it wasn't even an idea! - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 00:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I vote Super Troopers. Its about police. The stormtrooper Poopsmith is obviously a form of police. Referencing pooperscoopers makes *no* contextual sense. I'm changing it back. [[User:Piscez]]

:Here's what bugs me. When you say, "this '''is''' a reference to..." you are stating something is fact. In this case, we all have our opinions, and each think ours are correct. The fact '''is''' that none of were there when TBC sketched this out and don't have a flippin' clue what they were refering to. Therefore, I propose the following revision:
==== Pooper Trooper Scooper Dooper Blooper ====
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption could be a reference to the device [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]], the movie [[Wikipedia:Super_Troopers|Super Troopers]], the [[wikipedia:Mario|Super Mario Brothers']] [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopa Troopas]], or the [[wikipedia:George_Lucas|George Lucas']] [[Wikipedia:Stormtroopers|stormtroopers]].

{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

In general, users here seem to think "refers to" means "resembles". IRF is right; only TBC know for sure about what's a reference. Some are obvious, but I'm sure there are a lot of references we'll never get. And then there are a lot of things that resemble other things but TBC never were trying to refer to that thing. I think as a knowledge base we need to be a bit more conservative in how we decide references. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 12:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

''Stormtroopers'' seems the most obvious reference. Not the George Lucas kind, but rather the Hitler/Orwell kind. (Those of you who are still somewhat whippersnapperesque should be aware that the term predated ''Star Wars'' by a great many years.) Most of the other suggested references seem to be simple attempts to match up same or similar sounding words, rather than considering the actual ''context''. {{User:Bill/sig}} 17:03, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:Storm troopers is what I was saying all along. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

ok then ''Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption could be a reference to the device [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]], the movie [[Wikipedia:Super_Troopers|Super Troopers]], the [[wikipedia:Mario|Super Mario Brothers']] [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopa Troopas]], or [[Wikipedia:Stormtroopers|stormtroopers]] (from [[wikipedia:World_War_I|WWI]]).''

either way, its still spec at best, and in response to Bill, the usage of pooper cannot be ignored why else would TBC go from The Poopsmith to pooper if not trying to make a ryhme such as Super Trooper or refer to the legendary pooper scooper. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:For the rhyme, perhaps. Just because the rhyme is funny. Doesn't have to be a reference to pooper or super. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:54, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

My two cents: Pooper Scooper and Stormtrooper are both meaningful enough to be included. "Super Trooper" and "Koopa Troopa" are both based on "Stormtrooper" and, thus, unnecessary. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Ahem. I would Like to add at this point that the Koopa Troopas were the second most common enemies (next to goombas) in the original Super Mario Bros., which came out BEFORE Star Wars: A New Hope. So if anything, Stormtroopers are based off of Koopa Troopas. (Very, very unlikely.) --{{User:The very strongest}} 12:35, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

:See my retraction above, storm troopers is a term that refers to certain soldiers at the end of WWI, which is pre-television. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I like your idea, I R F, I vote that we go with that one. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 04:36, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, the opinions are vast so I think a good'ol vote is in order

'''version 1''' ''current version'' 
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption is a reference to [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]].
#
'''version 2''' ''the loaded version'' 
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]]. The caption could be a reference to the device [[Wikipedia:pooper-scooper|pooper-scoopers]], the movie [[Wikipedia:Super_Troopers|Super Troopers]], the [[wikipedia:Mario|Super Mario Brothers']] [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopa Troopas]], or [[Wikipedia:Stormtroopers|stormtroopers]] (from [[wikipedia:World_War_I|WWI]]).''
#
'''version 3''' ''the bare version'' 
Sketches of [[The Poopsmith]] as a trooper, for [[disconnected]].
#
'''version 4''' ''combination (please specify which items qualify as a reference)'' 
#

== Super Suudsu Me ==

Feels like the 5-month-old suudsu is a reference to the French fry aging experiment in [[Wikipedia:Super Size Me|Super Size Me]]. But I haven't seen the film, so I don't know how direct the connection is. Anyone want to do a little fact-checking here? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:I haven't seen it either, but the fact that this was posted five months to the day after [[bedtime story]] was released says to me that nobody actually ''drank'' the suudsu or dumped it out, and it's just been sitting there. It actually reminds me of the old clichè of the guy with the extremely dirty bedroom finally trying to clean it up and pulling out a half-eaten sandwich or burrito from under the bed and exclaiming "So ''that's'' what happened to my sandwich [burrito]." And by then it's covered with mold and he's got to shoo a [[Gavin|roach]] or two away from it before he touches it. The only specific example I can think of right now is from [[Wikipedia:Even Stevens]] (the episode where a haz mat team is needed to clean Louis's room and he has to sleep in Donnie's room. No, I don't watch the Disney channel anymore, but my younger sbblings frequently leave the TV on when they're not watching it and my ADD brain will be distracted by ut. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 20:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== suudsu sketch? ==

Is it noteworthy that this is only the 2nd time that the sketch isn't a sketch but a photograph?
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:46, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Th' last photo was sort of a sketch. Just a computer-generated one. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::This would be the first Sketchbook item which cannot really be called a sketch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
::Sketch: [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Sketch Dictionary.com], [[Wiktionary:Sketch|Wikitionary]], [[Wikipedia:Sketch|Wikipedia]] [[User:Beep|Beep]] 22:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== Missy's The Cheat ==

Hmm... an upcoming Marzipan-drawn episode?? Probably not, but if it happens, you read it here first! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
*It looks like a Dr. Seuss character. Like it's got a lion head and tail, but with a penguin body. I think it's kinda cute though! -[[User:Compdude|Compdude]]
*I think it looks like an Easter egg with a lion's mane, beady eyes, and a tail. Very nice, though. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
*You just know that in another six months they're going to turn that into a guest character. [[User:68.104.201.53|68.104.201.53]] 06:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

==Female Coach Z?==

It says that's some kind of female coaz Z with a 3 instead of a Z is in this week's sketchbook... But it's clearly Homeschool winner's symbol! And I guess this means this is an alternate verion of Coach Z who'll never be used...
:Not sure about the HW connection - his symbol is a speech balloon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::While I'm not entirely sure it's a female (I was edit-conflicted on putting it up, and my description just said "long-haired"), I can safely say that's a three. Dunno where you're getting the Homeschool Winner thing from. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I can see from where he got the Homeschool idea from. The space between the 3 and the circle looks like Homeschool's word bubble upside down. But it says 3 on the caption iself, so no argue there. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

==Numba zero==

I removed the Gilbert Arenas reference from last week's sketch description because there's no proof that it is. There have been plenty of players in the NBA who've worn number 0, and it can't be more than coincidence. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

==Sample of Style==

Anyone else notice a simularity between the styles of Numba 0 Strong Sad and Droolstar Runner? They're both in a new sketchy style with lots of detail and shadow as if they were draw at the same time or for the same purpose. Not only that they're also both in a very school-type setting. Granted Homestar could be asleep anywhere, and Strong Sad could be playing professional basketball but I seriously doubt thats the case. My question is, do you guys think this is a sign of toons to come?
*Hmm, maybe! They could be getting more into chiaroscuro shading, like SS's dragon.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== 1-up? ==

Im'a prootty sure that shoe says [[Wikipedia:7-Up|7-Up]]--{{User:Benol/sig}} 22:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
: I saw a "1". Anyway, although the poor drawing in the background looks more like Homestar, the boot looks very much like a [[20X6]] boot. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
::I think it looks like 7-Up, too. But I don't think it is, after all Homestar's has a [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|star]] on it. That would mean 1-Up would have that or some kind'a familiar mushroom… [[User:Stongbah|Stongbah]] 18:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I thought it was a "7" the first time I saw it, and I still think it looks like one. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 19:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I also can see "7-up", but "1-up" makes more sense in the context. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== One and a half King of Towns ==

Should the plural of "King of Town" be "King of Towns" or "Kings of Town"? [[User:Gus|Gus]] 04:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC) (Perhaps "A King of Town and a half"?)
:I honestly don't know. I think it should be entirely reworded to we don't have to deal with it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::Good point, guys. I've changed it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Kotqowopera.png|thumb|The KOT... and then a half? (Opera 9)]]
In Opera 9, it seems there are rendering issues. Anyone else see something similar to this? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I did in Firefox. See [[#Weird glitch]] below. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Taste it out? ==

It's said on the page that "taste it out" may be based on [[lady fan]]'s "twees it out". I'm not so sure; it reminds me more of a line from [[do over]] ("taste out one of them Cheatcakes"). Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:[[TTATOT]], or we add a new word running gag page about "out". But I don't think so. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:: You're misapplying the term TTATOT, as this isn't it. I don't think it's referring to a set of similar lines, I think it's referring to one line. Just not the one mentioned on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:::"Twees it out" was the first thing that came to my mind... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::TTATOT, as in "unusual use of the word 'out'".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:25, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: You're still misusing TTATOT, and even if it was, the correct solution would be to remove any trace of reference entirely. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:27, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::"Twees it out" is what I thought of at first too, but I'm not convinced it refers to anything in particular. TBC enjoy using words in strange ways; it needn't necessarily be a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Taste out one o' them Cheatcakes" is what popped into my head, what with the act of tasting in the picture and all. However, TBC have been known to use words in extremely odd ways, such as "Style" and others. I'd be inclinec to believe it's just some unusual word use that TBC employ in theirdaily lives that has spilled over in order to make Homestar Runner just that more bizarre.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

== Text bug ==

[[Image:Sketchbookbug.PNG|thumb]]
I've seen this reverted a few times, so here is the prove. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

:Well, neither I nor anyone else have the capability any longer. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

::The capability of what? If you mean reproducing the bug, you're wrong. It's still there.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Apparently it's not repoducible on Mac or Linux, but only on ''Firefox'' under ''Windows''.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Bendy Hop ==

It's really not a big deal, but I feel confident enough about it to post a comment on this talk page. I think that the "bendy hop" is a particular reference to the [[Wikipedia:Lindy Hop|lindy hop]], for the following reasons: (1) the titles differ only by two letters, (2) Coach Z's pose looks strongly like a typical swing/jazz dance step, of which the Lindy Hop is probably the most famous.

It was suggested that this might be more likely a reference to the [http://www.ehow.com/how_15790_bunny-hop.html bunny hop], but I question this, for the following reasons: this dance is less well-known (I base this, perhaps unjustly, on the relative size of the Wikipedia articles), and Coach Z's pose doesn't resemble the dance steps as described in the above link. (The bunny hop is a line dance involving other people and focuses on foot steps but not arm movements.) If we can rule out the bunny hop, then I don't think this fact is TTATOT, unless other candidates for "that" and "the other thing" exist.

Again, it won't break my heart if this fact is not changed back to my version, but I really do think that this is a particular reference to the lindy hop. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

:When I first saw the Sketchbook item and was preparing the screencap, I considered including the reference to a particular dance. But with the Lindy Ho, the Bunny Hop, and the classic song "At The Hop", and I'm sure others, I could not allow myself to attach the dance to any particular one of those. We can never know which one was the reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

::I thought it was a sketch for his jumping pose seen in A Folky Tale and geddup noise. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== The Thinkin Man ==
Reference to Yellow Dellow? It looks more like a reference to the famous statue, "[[Wikipedia:The Thinker|The Thinker]]."
:You could be right, but I don't know how anybody could confirm either of those, so I removed the statement. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::If you imagine the Rodin sculpture sans arms, the pose is nearly identical. Seems like a clear reference to me. -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 23:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:::When I added it, I immediately thought of the scene in Yello Dello where Homestar <s>thought and thought and thought</s> craped craped and craped all over that rock. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== Kingsmen Duo a reference? ==

The "Kingsmen Duo" are probably a reference to the famous folk band "[[Wikipedia:The Kingston Trio|The Kingston Trio]]".
:That sounds plausible. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::<s>I agree — it's a definite reference.</s> {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a plausibility, but it might just be a stretch.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Despite my former conviction (which was based on the wrong assumption that the folk band was named "The Kingsmen Trio"), I think that this is a reference to these two being the only of The King of Town's employees to be conspicuously absent from [[All the King's Men]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Note that the "Kingston Trio" reference was voted down in STUFF for [[senior prom]]. I don't know if this matters here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:46, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Actually, it [[Talk:senior prom#Closed STUFF|wasn't voted on in STUFF at all]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I don't think it's a reference for the band "The King's Men" but given the construction "The Kingsmen Duo" it becomes very likely. They have not previously been given the peculiar one-word construction "Kingsmen", and "The Kingsmen Duo" is grammatically strange unless in reference to The Kingston Trio. --Same Guy As The First Post

== "In a river of whatsit"? ==

Thats not correct at all! Come on people what is whatsit a euphamism of?
:there seems to be some disagreement over whether the whatsit refers to his situation (like "I'm in deep whatsit") or the actual composition of that river.. All I know is.. eew..

:: seems to me that the only disagreement would be with people who have never heard the informal military expression 'in the "whatsit"'; or at the very least people who have never been, as fightgar apparently is in this drawing, 'in the "whatsit"' themselves. It's figurative. He may indeed be in a river of 'whatsit', but he is also (and this is what the BC mean) figuratively 'in the "whatsit"', as both his expression and the flames shooting out of his weapon clearly indicate to anyone familiar with the expression, 'in the "whatsit"'. I mean, come on, who has never heard that expression? Ask a soldier; even a wannabe soldier.
::: Or even a "I have no interest in anything military" non-soldier like myself. It's the phrase. See [[Wikipedia:List_of_U.S._Army_acronyms_and_expressions|Wikipedia's List]] under field expresions. - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 18:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
--I haven't. I doubt most of America has heard it, either. Please explain. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

::I've heard of "in the $%&#" It's not that uncommon of a phrase. It is what you are in after the whatsit hits the fan. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

--It was mentioned in [[Wikipedia:Rushmore (film)|the film Rushmore]] in an exchange between the Jason Schwartzman and Bill Murray characters. [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 00:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

== What kind of gun is Fighthar using? ==

When I saw the picture I couldn't help but wonder. I started looking up gun types to draw a conclusion, and when I did, I realized my (work?) shouldn't go to waste, so I'd better post the firearm I settled on here. I don't really expect a response, as the title would suggest. Anyway, my guess is a suppressed folded-stock AKS-47. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It's a mishmash rich-tapestry cartoon-gun. The only think it has in common with any Kalashnikov (like your AKS-47 or 74) is the curved magazine. The guard on the barrel is from a machine gun like a .30 Browning, but the only thing with that type of guard that is even consistent with the size of what Fightgar is holding is the cheapo Tek-9 SMG used by every terrorist or drug dealer's henchman in every American action film in the 80s. I have to say, (not because I'm in the NRA (I'm not) or 'love guns' (I don't) or anything, but because I'm a writer and a former infantry soldier. . . there. . . I apologized for knowing about guns) I know guns, and that is not any gun on the face of the earth. It *is* a pretty neat looking cartoon gun though.

==HOTT==

I don't think that's a TT, I think it's Pi. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 23:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

:It kind of looks like that, but I'm pretty sure it's TT — Strong Bad's trying to look young by wearing a girly tee, and in that case "HOTT" makes more sense than "HOπ". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

::I think it's [[Pi]] because of the running gag, and the fact the pi was already shown to be used as a double-T in TGS's Smartly Pretty. Another point: Geeky T-shirt are also popular with todays young people, like Strong Sad, and pi as T's is pretty geeky. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Hmm... but doesn't it seem that Strong Bad's idea of what would be popular among young people would be contrary to Strong Sad's? I see your point, but it doesn't seem to fit together to me... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::: ''(Edit Conflict)'' I see no reason to assume it's a Pi. It's just two Ts that got smooshed together in a small low-res picture. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It looks like pi to me because of the little curly bit at the bottom (even though it's at the wrong side). I think it's pi. It looks like it and TBC have used it before, so it's not that unlikely.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Trey: Please remember that the first "young parson" Strong Bad goes to in the email is Strong Sad. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Like Trey said, "HOTT" just makes more sense that "HOpi" (and not one word about Hopi Indians either, coz I already thought of that, and that makes even LESS sense). Plus, since the style seemed to be going more toward "old person" style, I think "HOTT" makes more sense to that too. It's a well-known fact that old people aren't good with numbers. Right, Grandma? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Elcool: See? DorianGray agrees with me; you should too ;) Seriously though, you make a good point about Strong Bad going to Strong Sad first after his operation, but when he does, he doesn't talk about something "geeky" like ''Nerdular Nerdence'' magazine; he brings up something that's supposed to be "hip and trendy", Go-Gurt. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, while that's true, what we see here is a scrapped idea. TBC thought, like you, that HOpi is not that funny/goes well with the whole young thing. But it doesn't mean that that's not what is written there for the reasons I mentioned above. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I always thought that the text ''means'' "HOTT", but is ''written'' as "HOPI" to make it look cooler.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I suppose all this could be noted in the article in the ''guess''-based wiki anyone can edit.... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:50, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Loafing: Yeah, I meant it means "hot", but spelled as HO'''π''' to look cool. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

==fish drive thru==
It looks like the fish sam an max get into to get to the other side of the largest ball of twinell

== Weird glitch ==

[[Image:SketchGlitch413.PNG]]

I saw this on Friday. It may be my slow connection. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== AH! ==

[hairsplitting]
Even though the "AH!" in "ooh. AH!" is capitalized in the XML, this page doesn't ask for what it says in the XML. It asks for the "Caption." And the caption of this particular sketch renders it in all lowercase. Again: am I missing something?
[/hairsplitting] 
[[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 21:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:I see the XML as the official spelling. They type what they intended it to say into the XML. It apparently automatically changes it to lowercase no matter what. Therefore, since the XML is emptied with each new one, we should record it as it was intended to be written. For posterity. Maybe a little prosperity. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::I see what's displayed as the original spelling. XML is only what's happening behind the scenes, and it's (slight) speculation that this is actually the intended spelling. I suggest we use the displayed text as the official spelling and note that it was spelled differently in the XML file.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::Seconded. [[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 01:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::We always write out the Quote of the Week exactly as written, so why not the others? If they didn't intend it that way, they wouldn't've written it that way in the XML. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:53, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, the QOTW always shows up with proper capitalization. And no one's challenging what TBC intended, but TBC are certainly aware that Sketchbook text always turns out lowercase. Let's write the caption as presented, then add: (capitalized "ooh. AH!" in the XML file) [[User:Rowsdower45|Rowsdower45]] 17:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::If we choose to make it lowercase, I don't think there's any need of putting that extra bit you suggested Rowsdower. We could, however, possibly make a FF that mentions it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 19:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

==Craiged?==

Does anybody think that the reason why Strong Bad "got Craiged" might have something to do with [[Craig Zobel|someone who probably drew the picture]]? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:That's what I was thinking too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::My first thought was [http://www.craigslist.com Craig's List], though Mr. Zobel does seem a bit more plausible from TBC. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

== Crotch shot ==

Now we know what Homestar Runner wears under his... whatever that garment is. [[User:76.200.158.120|76.200.158.120]] 19:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:we do? how?
::Check 12 of Oct. UPSKIRT'd! By the Way, on the new one, (Nov 15) PP's supposed house looks like one of the character sketches in the museum (Second Book sketches) {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== SCHOOL UP ==

[[Strong Bad]] looks like [[Stinkoman]] in the newest sketch, and [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] looks like [[1-Up]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 22:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 19:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:web comics

Bellstrom — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:26:10 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Rubik the Amazing Cube */

==Penny Arcade==

Doesn't anyone think that that Game Pox comic looks like Penny Arcade?[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 20:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:What, the first comic? With the brick? That's the first thing that came to MY mind, and I've never even read Penny Arcade. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Already in Real-World References. And yes, yes it does. It's a reference, no doubt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:While Strong Bad is pretty clearly modelled after Gabriel, I don't know who the Strong Sad character is supposed to be. But the speech balloons and fonts look similar, also. I think the reference should be put back. (I think it was removed earlier.) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Strong Bad's point is that there are a million comics like this. We can't assume that he's making a reference to one specific comic. And as far as being modeled after Gabriel or whoever, I disagree. And besides.. again.. lots of comics are alike. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:::STUFF'd. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
If not PA, its most likely CAD

[[User:69.125.174.75|69.125.174.75]]
Poster of that fun fact

:I don't think so. There's nothing that reminds me of CAD in "Game Pox". If anything, Strong Sad is reminiscent of PvP a ''little'' bit, but not enough for me to call it a reference. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

That is definitely a PA reference. If you say otherwise, well, you're wrong, and you're just going to have to deal with that. And that's my objective opinion on the matter. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, after seeing the cartoon and noticing the conspicuous absence of a Penny Arcade fun fact, I moseyed over to look for the conversation. Obviously it needs to keep conversing a little longer, but my two cents are in favor of it. Yes yes, there are Ctrl-Alt-Del and PvP and Dueling Analogs and VGcats and ever and more. But TBC didn't have to put a shirt on Strong Bad at all, much less a yellow one. Plus his black hair, scowly expression, and backwards-leaning posture—I think they were trying their best to give us an overt reference. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Not only that, but look at the way the eyes and necks are drawn. The art style is closer to PA than PvP or CAD.

::I dunno, I've been reading penny arcade almost as long as I've been going to homestar runner, and I just don't see it. I'll grant that the characters look somewhat like their real life counterparts, but I say that's a pretty oblique reference. There's nothing else really penny arcade about the comic, none of the writing screams penny arcade (except maybe the very early stuff). I still say it's too much of a stretch. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 15:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I think you most likely feel this way ''because'' you're very familiar with PA and thus notice the differences, but to someone who's only passingly familiar with it, it's pretty obviously supposed to be PA. Plus, PA is the most famous of of the gamernerd nerdgeek webcomics, and they're well-known for being impossible to understand if you don't play video games (just see the article on them in Wired...)--[[User:75.68.233.187|75.68.233.187]] 15:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:While Strongsad's character is debatable, Strongbad is definitely a reference to Penny Arcade. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Bad is Gabe from Penny Arcade. It is possible that Strong Sad is supposed to be someone else entirely from a different comic. Below someone suggests the idea that he's from Ctrl-Alt-Del, about which i know nothing -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

: Personally, I thought it was the Red vs Blue comic when I first saw this email.
::Then you're mental. It could not look less like or be less related to RvB -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:As I said earlier, Strongbad's character is a reference to Penny Arcade. However, the way it's worded now, it sounds like the bit is ONLY a reference to Penny Arcade; it's obviously slamming the thousands of webcomics out there that are Two Guys Talking About Videogames. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:: I still agree; Strongbad's character is a PA reference. Strong ''Sad's'' character, however, I have no idea about it. And just to clear things up for the nay-sayers, if you still don't believe us, take a look at this picture:
:: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2706/sbpaee9.gif
:: But like Stev0 said, it is important to distinguish between the two characters, since there's no resemblance at all between Strong Sad's character and Tycho. If anyone could figure out who he's supposed to be, that would be even better. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 05:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::: I don't how they'd make Strong Sad look like Tycho. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::: I agree that it's probably Penny Arcade and not CAD, but I disagree with the way it's worded now: "''The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the webcomic Penny Arcade and its numerous imitators.''" Its kinda un-encyclopedaic. I suggest "''The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the Penny Arcade webcomic and the numerous other comics like it.''" or something along those lines. While it is referencing PA directly, it's also referring to all the other gaming webcomics, not all of which are PA ripoffs. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 19:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::: I agree; looking at the archives of Penny Arcade, it first appeared 11/18/98, while PvP first appeared 5/4/98, well before Penny Arcade. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 19:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Check out the wording as of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=web_comics&direction=next&oldid=505979 this revision]. I think it works better overall. The references in this email are in most cases not clearly references to specific comics or cartoons, but rather spoofs of each genre as a whole. With that in mind, it makes much more sense to call out a notable example with "such as", as it identifies a well-known example for people to relate to, without necessarily drawing an exact reference between that comic/toon and the spoof/parody in the email. Does that help? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's great, thank you. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 13:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Captain N parody? ==

Part of this email clearly seems to be sending up Captain N the Game Master. A series which featured a human in the video game world, and the game worlds, story plots and characters often bore little or no resemblance to their game counterparts. For example the Secret Collect character is a whiney coward not unlike Simon Belmont's portrayal in Captain N. The in-jokes may even go further than I recognise.

:Reminded me more of the Pac-Man cartoon, personally. Captain N centered around a real-world human, as well as a whole *group* of random NES characters; not much of a similarity IMO. Also, Simon Belmont was a whiny coward in Captain N (something he very much is *not* in Castlevania games, but I digress), but he was also a hopeless narcissist, which Secret Collect isn't. Ramble. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:It seems more than just Captain N. There were also shows like the "Super Mario Bros. Super Show," The Legend of Zelda TV Series, and the Megaman TV Series... two of the three can be found nowadays in the form of something completely mixed up on Youtube. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 01:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::Honestly, I'm not sure where so many people are getting these mixed references to every single video game-based cartoon ever out of the five-second Secret Collect cartoon clip. Unless there's something horribly wrong with my computer, and the SBEMail is skipping over a five-minute segment making fun of those cartoons, all I'm seeing is a teen, a dog, and a talking red cube. And a stereotypical '70s-'80s cartoon villain. As someone who once watched those old cartoons religiously, I just can't see any connection whatsoever to Zelda, Super Mario, Sonic, Megaman, or any other of the myriad of video game-based cartoons and anime; those were, despite being cheesy, at least based on games with actual characters and plotlines. And it's *especially* nothing like Captain N, which was basically a collective of random characters in random settings. I mean, jeez, the three main villains were from Metroid, Punch Out, and Kid Icarus! The Secret Collect cartoon is, if anything, a jab at Saturday Supercade, which made cartoons out of those simple one-screen arcade games with no actual characterization, such as Pac-Man (which, yes, I know, was its own cartoon), Frogger, Q*Bert, and Donkey Kong. (DK wasn't *always* the bowtie-wearing banana-loving hipster he is today, kiddies.) If the cartoon featured, say, Secret Collect, Duck Guardian, Kid Speedy, Thy Dungeonman, and the guy from Where's An Egg?, along with the human kid, then yes, it'd be an obvious Captain N parody. But it doesn't. So it ain't. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Bob and George? ==

Been a while since I had posted here. Anyway, when SB was listed out "They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves." The first thing that came to mind when he mentioned "video games" (and later said "just steal some graphics from your favorite video game") was the Web Comic [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/ Bob and George], further enforced with the Stinkoman comic bit where the majority of Stinkoman sprites were based off of Megaman... Heck, I too am guilty of the use of videogame graphics for my own web-comic... which I'm currently slacking on. Also, I'd like to point out the MS Paint comment SB mentioned. Many new comers to the sprite/pixel comic landfill often use MS Paint as their very first program, and use it very badly. As far as the Elves part goes, I'm unsure. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 04:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Unlike Penny Arcade, which has a form that is discernably lampooned, Bob and George and 8-Bit Theater et. al. don't really have any hallmarks that would make them stand out from other sprite comics. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well, unless you count Bob and George being the '''first''' significant sprite comic. There's a reputation for really bad comic writers to base their works on Bob and George as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I believe it's lampooning ALL sprite comics. I also think 8-Bit Theater is more well known, if we have to point out one. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 20:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree; it's just about all sprite comics. We don't need to point out one specifically. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

: i would like to point out that the speech baloons are exactly like the ones in Bob and George. it was the first thing i noticed more than anything.

== Explanations ==

I think GamerJox is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Ctrl+Alt+Del |Ctrl+Alt+Del]]. Strong Sad strongly resembles Lucas. And those web comics with the sprites could be referenced to [[Wikipedia:8-Bit Theater |8-Bit Theater]].
*Strong Bad's pompadour, yelling pose and yellow shirt are pretty reminiscent of Gabriel. Contrariwise, I don't see anything in Strong Sad resembling Lucas other than he's fat. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
*No, I don't think so. Lucas wears a white shirt, and has hair more like Strong Bad's. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
**By the way, heading off at the pass further discussion of 8-Bit Theater: Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of when Strong Bad began talking about it, but as he went on to describe such crappy examples, I think he's really just referencing the dozens upon thousands of amateur attempts using the same method. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Should "Burn" and "Dodge" be added to the Photoshop explanations section or are they self explanatory? {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
What Photoshopped fantasy comic can we link to? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

==Spamusement==

Is the Spam-based comic a reference to [http://www.spamusement.com/ | Spamusement]? I don't know of any other webcomic that does this. I'm not saying there aren't, I'm just saying I don't know about them if there are. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:STUFF'd. Vote there. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

::STUFF should be only be used when there's no consensus on the talk page. Here's the fact that was removed (edited a bit):
<blockquote>
The Cheat's web comic, based on spam mailers' names, is a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Spamusement!|Spamusement!]]'', a real-life comic made from spam email subject lines.
</blockquote>
::This seems to be a legitimate reference to me; the gimmicks behind the comics are almost identical, and I doubt that there are any other real-life web comics that are similar. Anybody agree or disagree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think it's probably a reference, unless someone can demonstrate that it's [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:The following comments/arguments were moved here from the STUFF page — hopefully, we can find consensus on this fact here without the need for the STUFF process. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
:''Argument For from [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]]:'' Both The Cheat's comic and Spamusement! reference spam, and have bad art.

:''Comment from [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]]:'' It was kind of annoying how people kept deleting and re-adding this before this section in STUFF was added, especially when they gave it as their reason for removing it. Not that it has much to do with the current argument; I'm just saying.-[[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 23:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:''Argument Against from [[User:Ten Ten|Ten Ten]]:'' Claiming it as a reference to one specific source is ambiguous: there are multiple groups that spend time making fun of spam messages.
</blockquote>

::While there are many groups devoted to making fun of spam, crappy drawings based on spam subject lines are pretty much Spamusement!'s trademark, methinks. [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]] 00:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:::<s>I can't really see that TBC were specifically referencing Spamusement. The concept doesn't exactly match Spamusement; The Cheat draws things based on the senders' names, Spamusement draws things based on the subject line. Besides that, The Cheat's screen looks nothing like the POOR web design of Spamusement. Also, looking at several of Spamusement's drawings, they all seem to be black and white, whereas The Cheat's are full color. And The Cheat's style matches all PBTC artistry, so you can't really take drawing style into account. I have to admit, though, that a Google search did not seem to produce anything that compares to Spamusement. I didn't try very hard, though. And I'm not on the fence about it. I would vote to reject this being listed as a real world reference. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)</s>

::::Perhaps you're not familiar with how a 'reference' works. What would they have to do for it to be a reference to Spamusement? Have the cheat make comics based on spam subject lines in black and white, matching that guy's style and his style of web design? HILARIOUS. Direct copying of someone else? thats comedic gold. No place for creativity here folks. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Fine, I take it back. I didn't enjoy this email as it is; just not my kind of humor this time. A rare miss by TBC, IMO. ''(from [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]'s edit summary when removing the above comment)'' 04:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Kirby ==

The stupid paint thing that is drawn on the Stinkoman comic looks a little like Kirby in a messed up way.

Pardon me, but I don't think I see the resemblance. Other than a round pink shape and having a face. But other than that, you really have to stretch it to see the resemblance. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Smurfs ==

*It's not something I want to put on the page without discussing it (unlike Penny Arcade where I'm pretty sure), but the evil wizard from the Secret Collect cartoon reminds me of Gargamel. He wears a crappy looking cloak, is balding, has rotten teeth, and the shot of his castle is reminiscent of all the interior shots in Gargamel's castle. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree entirely, although he also reminds me of <strike>Mitch Overlord</strike> Bozar. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 19:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno, I don't want to add this unless I get more notes saying it's not a stretch. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Mitch Overlord? Are you sure you don't mean [[Bozar]]? -invisible_map
:::I'm surprised no one has said that the "cool dog" is a reference to Poochie the dog from ''The Simpsons''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Spam senders ==

Some of those names, besides Hooray4Dolphins I reckon could be from some other wellknown characters.

Public D. Themackinest - Pompon, The Mack
Lowpoint K. Festivals - Strong Sad, being at a constant lowpoint

There may be others that I have not been able to decifer. I know that it might be a reach, and in any way a weak case, but I just throught that I would throw it out there. [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 15:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

: It's an interesting theory, but it strikes me as speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Signature blocks ==

I added the following fact as a real world reference:
:The characters in GamerJox monotonously reciting computer specifications at the end of their comic is a reference to the inclusion of such information in [[Wikipedia:Signature block|signature blocks]] of posts in [[Wikipedia:Internet forum|internet forums]] by computer technology enthusiasts.
And it was removed with this explanation:
:Why would he be referencing signature blocks/internet forums in an email about web comics?? And being "similar to" is not enough to be a real world reference.)
The random spouting off computer specs really deserves an explanation, and I'm convinced that this is it. Why else would he possibly have done it? To answer the question the deleter asks, I would imagine Strong Bad is implying that these characters are the kinds of people who use and see computer specs in internet forum signature blocks so regularly that they automatically use them as a "signoff" even when communicating in person. That does seem odd, but it's a joke, and that's how I interpreted it. Did anyone interpret it some other way? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 18:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded. That makes total sense. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:The reason is that it's a parody of all the unnecessary technogeekery that crop up in these types of comics. It's like if someone were to parody ''Peanuts'' by having Lucy say "Insult of Charlie Brown!" and Linus say "Vaguely related Bible verse!" Or something. There was a parody comic of ''Ozy and Millie'' that went kinda like that, but I can't find it anymore. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 04:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Here's a question though: is this more of a real-world reference or an explanation? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 02:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Cast of Characters ==

How much of the characters in the comics and cartoons and so one should we include in the cast list? Any? All? Note that not everything in the cast has to be linked. Personally, I'm for including everyone we can name/has a speaking part. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

==Captain N==

The first Saturday morning cartoon reminds me of Captain N. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Good thing this is different than the other Captain N message about 3 blocks up -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Stinkoman Sprite Comics ==

This is obvious, but the Stinkoman Sprite Comic definitely references Stinkoman Sprite Comics on the Fanstuff Wiki. I've seen MS Painted graphics in these things. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:P.S. This doesn't need to be STUFF'd! {{User:Im a bell/sig}}

Well, they're not the only sprite comics with MS Painted endings. 8-bit Theater, for one. I believe that the reason the TBC used Stinkoman 20X6 is that his game was the only sprite-styled game cinematic enough for sprite comic use. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:P.S. Doesn't need to be STUFF'd? Why? There seems to be other explanations. We just might need to STUFF it. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Changed my mind. No STUFF. It's spoofing the whole genre of sprite comics. Just don't put it there at all. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:It bears mentioning that the genre exists, and in fact 8-Bit Theater is/was one of the first comics to do it (and ''the'' first to become famous for doing so). If we can have a Fun Fact referencing Penny-Arcade "and its many imitators", then we should be able to have a similar one for 8-Bit Theater and its derivatives. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== ... and elves. ==

I believe that Strong Bads line, "They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves" makes a reference to 8-bit Theater, at least the part about elves. [[User:12.18.218.230|12.18.218.230]] 01:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, because 8-Bit Theater is the only webcomic ''ever'' to be about elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Elves don't pertain to 8-Bit Theater specifically. But I would argue that the Stinkoman sprite comic ''is'' a more specific reference to 8-Bit Theater - that's the webcomic/animation series that is most commonly "blamed" for starting that particular sub-genre. I believe that's a valid reference. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:::If we're going for specifics, the Stinkoman comic is more like Bob and George, another pioneer of the genre - Mega Man sprites and MS Paint'ed non-punchlines are something of a signature for it (although in the latter case, it's never as obnoxious as presented by Strong Bad). [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm not aware of there being many (if any) "MS Paint'ed non-punchlines" in Bob and George. Its imitators, perhaps, but not B&G proper. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Turning back the hands of time, there was a pretty popular webcomic called "Elf Life." I think it's still active today. Nonetheless, other than the use of video game sprites and college gamers geeks, elves are often used as a character base line. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 13:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Why are you guys so quick to delete valid Real-World References? ==

I'm noticing a trend here, especially in this email, but more generally across the board in recently released toons and emails. This email is full of references to modern Internet culture, yet the established members of this community seem REALLY eager to just delete those references ''without discussion'' and without checking the facts (or showing they have checked the facts) being asserted. For example: My entry for the Stinkoman comic referencing 8-Bit Theater was removed almost immediately after I added it, with an edit summary saying that 8-Bit Theater was the ONLY comic out there that used video-game sprites.

Now, it's possible that person was being sarcastic (and honestly, guys, that kind of sarcasm doesn't help discussion at all), but the statement itself is patently false. Dozens of sprite-based comics (including many direct knock-offs and parodies) have been spawned mainly due to 8-Bit Theater's existence. G4 even has a syndicated TV show now based on that concept. 8-Bit Theater was one of the first comics using that particular medium to become successful (whether it was actually the very first one to do it is highly debatable, but it's famous for doing it well).

I just find it really discouraging to see people just deleting perfectly valid information like that without allowing for discussion and consensus. I realize we have STUFF, but it seems like even that vehicle is being sidestepped more and more lately. It's part of the reason I haven't been participating on this wiki as much as I used to - sometimes, this community can come across as downright hostile.

</soapbox> {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:STUFF (or at least STUFFing immediately) has been discouraged of late in favor of a talk page discussion. (See below.) As for the attitude of the people here, as long as I can remember we've had established users who are consistently sarcastic (not that there's anything right with that). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::It's one thing to be sarcastic in a friendly way, but comments like "Like this is the ''only'' place that elves have ''ever'' been referenced!" as a reply to someone asking for discussion is really quite unfriendly, and it seems against the spirit of the community that I joined two years ago. That's why I'm bringing it up now.

::As for the STUFF: I reverted your removal of my STUFF item because people have been trying to discuss that particular topic here in at least three separate threads on this Talk page. All of those have been summarily shot down as TTATOT without considering that a reference to the genre might be appropriate. I figured we'd make more headway in a single, organized discussion - that was what STUFF was originally designed for, was it not? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Our approach to STUFF has undergone some changes, and for reasons I think are quite good. More discussion and less voting is a good thing. I think it's appropriate to use a straight vote as a last resort, so STUFF does still have a purpose here, but I think it's good that we've reduced its use as we have. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Okay. I'm fine with that so long as it doesn't turn into the problematic Talk-vote process that existed before STUFF came into use in the first place. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm the one who reverted that fact, yes I *was* being sarcastic, and if you'll notice in the edit summary, references to sprite comics have been removed repeatedly. I didn't mean any particular offense or anything, so I apologize if I came across as rude. It's just, there are so many sprite-based webcomics out there that it's really impossible to say that the Stinkocomic is a direct reference to any one in particular. (Heck, *I* once attempted a sprite comic, using Chrono Trigger graphics; it got nowhere, but nevertheless.) The only way such a fact is truly "valid" is if we take the route of the "Jeeves" fact, noting more about its origin and the trend, rather than saying it's an out and out reference to one comic that TBC may or may not have heard of. -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:What exactly is a reference? The problem is that people seem to be having trouble distinguishing between references and coincidences, with some users overzealously adding real-world references based on slight similarities, and other equally zealous users deleting real-world references that are anything less than completely obvious. And then there are people to represent every spot in between. The problem is that "reference" isn't clearly defined as it pertains to the wiki, so people just use their own personal definition, and don't realize that other people's definitions may be different. I'm trying to start discussion on the issue over at [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#Standards_for_Real-World_References]], hoping that people will realize why people seem to disagree so much on RWRs, and maybe find some common ground.--[[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 23:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::YK: I had intended for that 8-Bit Theater reference to indicate that 8-Bit Theater started the trend, not necessarily to say that it was the only such comic that this email could be referencing. It probably would have been better worded as "The sprite comic parodies the genre of sprite-based web comics that began with 8-Bit Theater", similar to how Penny-Arcade is being used as a starting point for that particular genre. Make more sense that way? (And I still maintain that the same is true of Saturday Morning Cartoons - ''Pac-Man'' started that genre.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh, I agree. I actually changed the fact to reflect that yesterday (but it got removed by someone else, due to a similar one being in Explanations), though there seems to be some conflict over whether Bob and George (which I've never heard of, though that's irrelevant) or 8-Bit Theater came first. And I agree about the Saturday Morning Cartoons bit, especially Pac-Man; though where people are getting a connection to Captain N, Super Mario Bros., or the Legend of Zelda toons, I don't know. See my above rant. -{{User:YK/sig}} 17:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Captain N, SMB, Zelda, etc., are all in the same category as Pac-Man - they're just video-game-based cartoons with similar plot/character alterations. Almost all SatAm cartoons that were based on games introduced new characters and plotlines that really have nothing to do with the games themselves, but generally, the more complex the game, the less alteration happened in the cartoon. Pac-Man is *really* simple, so it would make for a really boring cartoon without adding some villains and sidekicks, and plots for global domination and all that. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well, as I said above, I see those as in a different catagory, because at the least, SMB, Zelda, and the others had some existing characters, a world, and a backstory to work with. Secret Collect, however, is more reminiscent of the cartoons such as Pac-Man that built an entire world out of a plotless, no characterization, one-screen arcade game. I get what you're saying, but to link Secret Collect to the SMB and Zelda cartoons just because they're "based on video games" is like comparing the Statue of Liberty to a Picasso painting because "they're both art". Same, but different. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not apologizing for my "elves" quip. It ''is'' patently ridiculous to think that 8-Bit Theater was the first webcomic to ever reference elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:That doesn't mean you have to be rude about it. The guy's comment was a bit misguided, yes, but there are far better ways to respond to that. I personally would have been rather offended had that been me you were replying to. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::Seriously, folks, snappy answers to stupid questions and the like work well in MAD magazine, but are a real turn-off and annoyance when dealing with real people. There's just no reason for them. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Saturday Morning Cartoon Collect! ==
:''The Secret Collect Saturday morning cartoon is a reference to various cartoons produced in the 1980s that were based on video games. Most of these cartoons introduced new characters and deviated significantly from the plots or spirit of the games they were based on.''

This was another STUFF that was not brought to the talk page first. In the interest of encouraging discussion, I am moving it here so we can talk about it and hopefully not have to resort to a vote. There were two arguments for its inclusion:
<blockquote>
#The point of this FF is not to reference specific cartoons, but rather the entire genre of video-game licensed cartoons, most of which deviated significantly from the plot or spirit of the games they were based on.
#This isn't really "explaining the joke", since newer viewers unfamiliar with those old cartoons are unlikely to understand why the joke is funny.
</blockquote>

There were also several comments:
<blockquote>
*Variants of the proposed fact also reference ''Legend of Zelda'' and ''Captain N''. In the first revision of this FF, I used ''Pac-Man'' as a notable example because it enjoyed widespread popularity, mainly due to the game's own popularity in North America.
*Without referencing any/all specific video game cartoons, this may be more appropriate as a "Remark" rather than a "Real World Reference".
</blockquote>

Both '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' and '''[[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]''' indicated that they supported keeping the fact and were responsible for the above arguments and comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:<s>With all due respect, why do we still have a STUFF process if we're not going to use it? (Expanding on this) My understanding was that STUFF came about because the previous process, discussing Fun Facts on Talk pages, was cumbersome, difficult to manage, and people weren't taking it seriously. I'd really like to see us avoid falling back into that. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)</s> Nevermind - I'm a bit grouchy at the moment and shouldn't be taking it out on everyone here. Move along. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::OK, now my opinion. If the fact is worded so that it refers to the genre, rather than trying to make a claim to it referring to a specific show, it's probably good. Some people may not know this (especially readers born after the 80s), so it may be worth noting it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::I have no problem with the fact if it's phrased in the way Heimstern suggests. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, using ''Pac-Man'' as an example would be appropriate since it was the first cartoon show to be entirely based on a video game. The other shows that have been referenced so far came significantly later. Since we have a Penny-Arcade reference that deals with Penny-Arcade "and its imitators", and I believe a similar one about 8-Bit Theater would be appropriate since it started the sprite-based comic genre, I think it would be appropriate to mention that Pac-Man started the video-game cartoon genre. For consistency's sake, mainly. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm sure readers born after the 80s will get the joke, seeing that there's still cartoons based on video games. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I disagree. For one, today's game-cartoons are based on the actual plotlines of the games themselves, at least to a much greater extent than those of the early 80s. Today's games usually have much more in-depth plots that the cartoons either help to explain or expound upon, but the 80s cartoons had to create their plots and character sets outside of the games, or else there wouldn't have been anything to make a cartoon out of. The Secret Collect toon very obviously references the latter situation.

:::::The last notable example I can think of where a game-based cartoon deviated significantly from the game was the first Sonic the Hedgehog series, which introduced a team of "freedom fighters" and a more established universe that made the plot more believable. Even then, though, that cartoon had a much stronger connection to the game than, say, Pac-Man did. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Problem Is... ==

There are too many gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs (and elves?) editing this Wiki. And everyone fighting for their favorites, it seems. Thus the constant adding, removing and changing of so-called references. Are they references? I don't care anymore. And I don't see any end to it. Months from now, new people will come across the Wiki and go, "Hey, how did everyone miss this? This is a reference to cartoons like Pac-Man and Captain N and Zelda and Super Mario Bros and Sonic and Mega Man and Saturday Supercade." And that'll get reverted. Then someone'll see that and add back just the portions of the post ''they'' agreed with, and that'll get reverted, etc., and we'll all have a jolly time sorting through the mess. Yee haw. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:Well, to be fair, I think we can be a bit more optimistic than that. I hope I'm not foolish for thinking so. ;-) Anyway, though, I do think this will let up a bit after the email is less new. It's true that an email like this does lend itself to a lot of attempts to draw references, but even here, I think it will pass. For example, rarely do we get a new reference added to [[virus]], which was the email that inspired the STUFF process because of how many references people added. So, just give it some years, and it probably will fix itself! But in the meantime, it's important that we just have good, productive talk page discussions here to try to come to consensus on what is or isn't a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::To my knowledge, no one has added fact explaining what Burn & Dodge: The Fantasy Photoshop Gradient Comic is a reference to. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

==Decades for Saturday Morning Cartoons==

I was the one who added 1990s. I believe various video game based cartoons were also on television in the 1990s as well, and some debuted in the 1990s. A prime example is Super Mario World. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 16:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:But the cartoons depicted weren't referring to the more well-made video game toons of the 90s and later. They were referring to the 80s trend of taking arcade games with no in-game story/characterization and developing an entire cartoon around them, with the only actual connection being the name and the main character. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

==MS Paint==

I think MS Paint refers to Microsoft Paint. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:*Yes, I'd say so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::*At the risk of sounding as sarcastic as the people I was criticizing earlier, does MS Paint ever really refer to anything else? Unlike something that happened in the early 80s, I think MS Paint is such a directly stated and obvious reference that it doesn't need to be restated in the RWR section. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I noticed the airbrush feature on the mixed-up comic, which is a total trademark of Paint. Also, just the overall custom work looks like it was done in paint. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

::::Mentions of MSPaint are not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

::::The "airbrush" feature in that program is also available in hundreds of other paint programs. There's nothing special about it, and I would even argue that it's not anything resembling a "trademark" of MS Paint. Paint is about the most basic paint program around, and about the only thing that makes it a better candidate than any other paint program for mention in this email is the fact that it's as ubiquitous as Windows itself. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I agree that it's not notable, just as "Mountain Dew" is not notable as a RWR for the e-mails it appears in. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

::::::All this said, if it turns out that they start using MS Paint frequently in future toons and emails, we can always start a [[running gag]] page about it. THEN it would be more appropriate to mention where the program comes from. (We already have a [[Mountain Dew]] page.) But this won't be the case until and unless we see an actual running joke from TBC about this program, and I have my doubts that they'll do so. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==Screenshots==
How do you get the screenshots of the site like the one on the info page of Strong Bad and The Cheat looking at "Knowingest J. Drawbridges"? Do you have to have Flash? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:No. Just the print screen button on the keyboard and an image editing program. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::For more detailed help on that, check out [http://www.neopets.com/~ScreenieHelp this site]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Or even [[Help:Image#How to take a screenshot|our own section on the subject]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, I got it now! Thanks! {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== I wish I knew what that means ==

Should we include explanations of all the techno-geek stuff the GamerJōx guys mention? I suppose I could do a quick Wikipedia search to find out what they're saying, but since I am not well versed in h4xx0r lingo, I really wouldn't know what I would be talking about. But is it even notable enough to deserve an explanation? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh, I bet most of the stuff T3h Br0s didn't even know what they were talking about. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was thinking that these items deserved a brief mention, with links to the relevant Wikipedia articles where such could be found. Want me to write that up? I understand all of the terminology. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

:::On further research, I discovered that ALL of the technobabble referred to the PS3's specifications. Basically, that last panel was just devoted to describing the PS3 in an overly technical way. I organized the explanations as such. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Rubik the Amazing Cube ==

Secret Collect is obviously Rubik the Amazing Cube, its the only saturday morning cartoon that I can remember that had a cube a boy and an evil magician, checkout wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%2C_the_Amazing_Cube]. I understand that there were many video game cartoons on saturday morning but this is definately Rubik. [[http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0798/1.jpg]] Also if you want the intro video you can see it here on youtube [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs_GCy9PRk]]--[[User:Xhadow|Xhadow]] 06:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

:It's possible they took some inspiration from that cartoon, but the reference is more closely linked to Pac-Man (at least, that's how it appears to me) because of the video-game tie-in. Many cartoons of the period introduced evil wizards and villains, and as stated in the fun fact, the reference is a spoof of the whole genre anyway. As such, we want to avoid getting back into TTATOT territory (say THAT 3 times fast!), so I think it's best to leave Pac-Man there as the well-known example of the genre, both because it started the genre and because it's likely the best-known of them. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::Tht Rubik The Amazing cube thing is... Disturbing. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 00:26, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== A comic about nothing (except games) ===
{{stufffact|The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the webcomic [[Wikipedia:Penny Arcade (webcomic)|Penny Arcade]].}}
{{stuffverdict|20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)|02:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|23|5|web comics}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== All I ever wanted was to be your spine ===
{{stufffact|"Web in Front" is a song by North Carolina-based indie rock band [[Wikipedia:Archers of Loaf|Archers of Loaf]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)|20:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)|swiftly and unanimously accepted|10|0|web comics}}

== did I err? ==

the "photoshop gradient" comic kind of seems like the musle warrior dude of boring (really). legit reference or odd coincedince?

Not really much of a connection. One is a generic elf fantasy hero, the other is a parody of an already-known comic book character. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 20:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad and the New Paper ==

I don't know if it's worth noting, but this is the first time the New Paper has dropped down in Strong Bad's presence without SB saying something derogatory to it.
:No, that was [[pizza joint]][[User:King of wikis|King of wikis]] 00:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
::He meant it was the first time Strong Bad was in the vicinity of the New Paper and did not yell at it. He and New Paper were in separate rooms in pizza joint. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat's Computer ==
I can't believe none of you noticed that this is the first time The Cheat's computer has been seen since [[redesign]]! Think about it, the last time his computer was this new one, and then it pops back up out of nowhere! It definately seems at this point that The Cheat has trashed Tangerine Dreams! {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Photoshopped Fantasy Comics ==

If nobody else has noticed, [[web comics#Real World References]] does not have ''any'' example of a fantasy web comic. Out of all the genres spoofed in the email that is the only one we do not give an example of. I tried to add Looking for Group but it got deleted. Can anybody else think of a better example? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:I think there's too many to declare one way or another which ones should be a ref. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, I was just thinking of writing a fact like, "Burn and Dodge makes fun of Photoshopped comics such as X." Can you name a comic that I could substitute for "X"? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:::One word. Bob and George. Wat, that was three words. Oh well... {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 23:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rap Song Visuals

Bellstrom — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:52:41 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Tenerence Love's Mouth */

==Tenerence Love's Mouth==
I dont know if this is worth mentioning or not, being that it's a [[Powered By The Cheat|PbTC]] short, but Tenerence Love's microphone during the R&B Break is 'behind' his mustache/beard and teeth (AKA Anything on him that moves). --[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 23:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:It IS worth mentioning. Oh, and, I think the Tenerence Love part isn't PBTC. It's too well animated. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 23:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:web comics

Bellstrom — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:50:26 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Photoshopped Fantasy Comics */

==Penny Arcade==

Doesn't anyone think that that Game Pox comic looks like Penny Arcade?[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 20:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:What, the first comic? With the brick? That's the first thing that came to MY mind, and I've never even read Penny Arcade. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Already in Real-World References. And yes, yes it does. It's a reference, no doubt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:While Strong Bad is pretty clearly modelled after Gabriel, I don't know who the Strong Sad character is supposed to be. But the speech balloons and fonts look similar, also. I think the reference should be put back. (I think it was removed earlier.) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Strong Bad's point is that there are a million comics like this. We can't assume that he's making a reference to one specific comic. And as far as being modeled after Gabriel or whoever, I disagree. And besides.. again.. lots of comics are alike. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:::STUFF'd. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
If not PA, its most likely CAD

[[User:69.125.174.75|69.125.174.75]]
Poster of that fun fact

:I don't think so. There's nothing that reminds me of CAD in "Game Pox". If anything, Strong Sad is reminiscent of PvP a ''little'' bit, but not enough for me to call it a reference. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

That is definitely a PA reference. If you say otherwise, well, you're wrong, and you're just going to have to deal with that. And that's my objective opinion on the matter. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, after seeing the cartoon and noticing the conspicuous absence of a Penny Arcade fun fact, I moseyed over to look for the conversation. Obviously it needs to keep conversing a little longer, but my two cents are in favor of it. Yes yes, there are Ctrl-Alt-Del and PvP and Dueling Analogs and VGcats and ever and more. But TBC didn't have to put a shirt on Strong Bad at all, much less a yellow one. Plus his black hair, scowly expression, and backwards-leaning posture—I think they were trying their best to give us an overt reference. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Not only that, but look at the way the eyes and necks are drawn. The art style is closer to PA than PvP or CAD.

::I dunno, I've been reading penny arcade almost as long as I've been going to homestar runner, and I just don't see it. I'll grant that the characters look somewhat like their real life counterparts, but I say that's a pretty oblique reference. There's nothing else really penny arcade about the comic, none of the writing screams penny arcade (except maybe the very early stuff). I still say it's too much of a stretch. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 15:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I think you most likely feel this way ''because'' you're very familiar with PA and thus notice the differences, but to someone who's only passingly familiar with it, it's pretty obviously supposed to be PA. Plus, PA is the most famous of of the gamernerd nerdgeek webcomics, and they're well-known for being impossible to understand if you don't play video games (just see the article on them in Wired...)--[[User:75.68.233.187|75.68.233.187]] 15:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:While Strongsad's character is debatable, Strongbad is definitely a reference to Penny Arcade. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Bad is Gabe from Penny Arcade. It is possible that Strong Sad is supposed to be someone else entirely from a different comic. Below someone suggests the idea that he's from Ctrl-Alt-Del, about which i know nothing -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

: Personally, I thought it was the Red vs Blue comic when I first saw this email.
::Then you're mental. It could not look less like or be less related to RvB -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:As I said earlier, Strongbad's character is a reference to Penny Arcade. However, the way it's worded now, it sounds like the bit is ONLY a reference to Penny Arcade; it's obviously slamming the thousands of webcomics out there that are Two Guys Talking About Videogames. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:: I still agree; Strongbad's character is a PA reference. Strong ''Sad's'' character, however, I have no idea about it. And just to clear things up for the nay-sayers, if you still don't believe us, take a look at this picture:
:: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2706/sbpaee9.gif
:: But like Stev0 said, it is important to distinguish between the two characters, since there's no resemblance at all between Strong Sad's character and Tycho. If anyone could figure out who he's supposed to be, that would be even better. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 05:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::: I don't how they'd make Strong Sad look like Tycho. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::: I agree that it's probably Penny Arcade and not CAD, but I disagree with the way it's worded now: "''The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the webcomic Penny Arcade and its numerous imitators.''" Its kinda un-encyclopedaic. I suggest "''The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the Penny Arcade webcomic and the numerous other comics like it.''" or something along those lines. While it is referencing PA directly, it's also referring to all the other gaming webcomics, not all of which are PA ripoffs. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 19:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::: I agree; looking at the archives of Penny Arcade, it first appeared 11/18/98, while PvP first appeared 5/4/98, well before Penny Arcade. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 19:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Check out the wording as of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=web_comics&direction=next&oldid=505979 this revision]. I think it works better overall. The references in this email are in most cases not clearly references to specific comics or cartoons, but rather spoofs of each genre as a whole. With that in mind, it makes much more sense to call out a notable example with "such as", as it identifies a well-known example for people to relate to, without necessarily drawing an exact reference between that comic/toon and the spoof/parody in the email. Does that help? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's great, thank you. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 13:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Captain N parody? ==

Part of this email clearly seems to be sending up Captain N the Game Master. A series which featured a human in the video game world, and the game worlds, story plots and characters often bore little or no resemblance to their game counterparts. For example the Secret Collect character is a whiney coward not unlike Simon Belmont's portrayal in Captain N. The in-jokes may even go further than I recognise.

:Reminded me more of the Pac-Man cartoon, personally. Captain N centered around a real-world human, as well as a whole *group* of random NES characters; not much of a similarity IMO. Also, Simon Belmont was a whiny coward in Captain N (something he very much is *not* in Castlevania games, but I digress), but he was also a hopeless narcissist, which Secret Collect isn't. Ramble. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:It seems more than just Captain N. There were also shows like the "Super Mario Bros. Super Show," The Legend of Zelda TV Series, and the Megaman TV Series... two of the three can be found nowadays in the form of something completely mixed up on Youtube. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 01:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::Honestly, I'm not sure where so many people are getting these mixed references to every single video game-based cartoon ever out of the five-second Secret Collect cartoon clip. Unless there's something horribly wrong with my computer, and the SBEMail is skipping over a five-minute segment making fun of those cartoons, all I'm seeing is a teen, a dog, and a talking red cube. And a stereotypical '70s-'80s cartoon villain. As someone who once watched those old cartoons religiously, I just can't see any connection whatsoever to Zelda, Super Mario, Sonic, Megaman, or any other of the myriad of video game-based cartoons and anime; those were, despite being cheesy, at least based on games with actual characters and plotlines. And it's *especially* nothing like Captain N, which was basically a collective of random characters in random settings. I mean, jeez, the three main villains were from Metroid, Punch Out, and Kid Icarus! The Secret Collect cartoon is, if anything, a jab at Saturday Supercade, which made cartoons out of those simple one-screen arcade games with no actual characterization, such as Pac-Man (which, yes, I know, was its own cartoon), Frogger, Q*Bert, and Donkey Kong. (DK wasn't *always* the bowtie-wearing banana-loving hipster he is today, kiddies.) If the cartoon featured, say, Secret Collect, Duck Guardian, Kid Speedy, Thy Dungeonman, and the guy from Where's An Egg?, along with the human kid, then yes, it'd be an obvious Captain N parody. But it doesn't. So it ain't. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Bob and George? ==

Been a while since I had posted here. Anyway, when SB was listed out "They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves." The first thing that came to mind when he mentioned "video games" (and later said "just steal some graphics from your favorite video game") was the Web Comic [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/ Bob and George], further enforced with the Stinkoman comic bit where the majority of Stinkoman sprites were based off of Megaman... Heck, I too am guilty of the use of videogame graphics for my own web-comic... which I'm currently slacking on. Also, I'd like to point out the MS Paint comment SB mentioned. Many new comers to the sprite/pixel comic landfill often use MS Paint as their very first program, and use it very badly. As far as the Elves part goes, I'm unsure. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 04:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Unlike Penny Arcade, which has a form that is discernably lampooned, Bob and George and 8-Bit Theater et. al. don't really have any hallmarks that would make them stand out from other sprite comics. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well, unless you count Bob and George being the '''first''' significant sprite comic. There's a reputation for really bad comic writers to base their works on Bob and George as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I believe it's lampooning ALL sprite comics. I also think 8-Bit Theater is more well known, if we have to point out one. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 20:23, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree; it's just about all sprite comics. We don't need to point out one specifically. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Explanations ==

I think GamerJox is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Ctrl+Alt+Del |Ctrl+Alt+Del]]. Strong Sad strongly resembles Lucas. And those web comics with the sprites could be referenced to [[Wikipedia:8-Bit Theater |8-Bit Theater]].
*Strong Bad's pompadour, yelling pose and yellow shirt are pretty reminiscent of Gabriel. Contrariwise, I don't see anything in Strong Sad resembling Lucas other than he's fat. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
*No, I don't think so. Lucas wears a white shirt, and has hair more like Strong Bad's. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
**By the way, heading off at the pass further discussion of 8-Bit Theater: Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of when Strong Bad began talking about it, but as he went on to describe such crappy examples, I think he's really just referencing the dozens upon thousands of amateur attempts using the same method. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 13:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Should "Burn" and "Dodge" be added to the Photoshop explanations section or are they self explanatory? {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
What Photoshopped fantasy comic can we link to? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

==Spamusement==

Is the Spam-based comic a reference to [http://www.spamusement.com/ | Spamusement]? I don't know of any other webcomic that does this. I'm not saying there aren't, I'm just saying I don't know about them if there are. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 16:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:STUFF'd. Vote there. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

::STUFF should be only be used when there's no consensus on the talk page. Here's the fact that was removed (edited a bit):
<blockquote>
The Cheat's web comic, based on spam mailers' names, is a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Spamusement!|Spamusement!]]'', a real-life comic made from spam email subject lines.
</blockquote>
::This seems to be a legitimate reference to me; the gimmicks behind the comics are almost identical, and I doubt that there are any other real-life web comics that are similar. Anybody agree or disagree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think it's probably a reference, unless someone can demonstrate that it's [[TTATOT]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:The following comments/arguments were moved here from the STUFF page — hopefully, we can find consensus on this fact here without the need for the STUFF process. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
:''Argument For from [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]]:'' Both The Cheat's comic and Spamusement! reference spam, and have bad art.

:''Comment from [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]]:'' It was kind of annoying how people kept deleting and re-adding this before this section in STUFF was added, especially when they gave it as their reason for removing it. Not that it has much to do with the current argument; I'm just saying.-[[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 23:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

:''Argument Against from [[User:Ten Ten|Ten Ten]]:'' Claiming it as a reference to one specific source is ambiguous: there are multiple groups that spend time making fun of spam messages.
</blockquote>

::While there are many groups devoted to making fun of spam, crappy drawings based on spam subject lines are pretty much Spamusement!'s trademark, methinks. [[User:Mathgrant|Mathgrant]] 00:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:::<s>I can't really see that TBC were specifically referencing Spamusement. The concept doesn't exactly match Spamusement; The Cheat draws things based on the senders' names, Spamusement draws things based on the subject line. Besides that, The Cheat's screen looks nothing like the POOR web design of Spamusement. Also, looking at several of Spamusement's drawings, they all seem to be black and white, whereas The Cheat's are full color. And The Cheat's style matches all PBTC artistry, so you can't really take drawing style into account. I have to admit, though, that a Google search did not seem to produce anything that compares to Spamusement. I didn't try very hard, though. And I'm not on the fence about it. I would vote to reject this being listed as a real world reference. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)</s>

::::Perhaps you're not familiar with how a 'reference' works. What would they have to do for it to be a reference to Spamusement? Have the cheat make comics based on spam subject lines in black and white, matching that guy's style and his style of web design? HILARIOUS. Direct copying of someone else? thats comedic gold. No place for creativity here folks. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Fine, I take it back. I didn't enjoy this email as it is; just not my kind of humor this time. A rare miss by TBC, IMO. ''(from [[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]'s edit summary when removing the above comment)'' 04:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Kirby ==

The stupid paint thing that is drawn on the Stinkoman comic looks a little like Kirby in a messed up way.

Pardon me, but I don't think I see the resemblance. Other than a round pink shape and having a face. But other than that, you really have to stretch it to see the resemblance. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Smurfs ==

*It's not something I want to put on the page without discussing it (unlike Penny Arcade where I'm pretty sure), but the evil wizard from the Secret Collect cartoon reminds me of Gargamel. He wears a crappy looking cloak, is balding, has rotten teeth, and the shot of his castle is reminiscent of all the interior shots in Gargamel's castle. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree entirely, although he also reminds me of <strike>Mitch Overlord</strike> Bozar. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 19:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno, I don't want to add this unless I get more notes saying it's not a stretch. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Mitch Overlord? Are you sure you don't mean [[Bozar]]? -invisible_map
:::I'm surprised no one has said that the "cool dog" is a reference to Poochie the dog from ''The Simpsons''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Spam senders ==

Some of those names, besides Hooray4Dolphins I reckon could be from some other wellknown characters.

Public D. Themackinest - Pompon, The Mack
Lowpoint K. Festivals - Strong Sad, being at a constant lowpoint

There may be others that I have not been able to decifer. I know that it might be a reach, and in any way a weak case, but I just throught that I would throw it out there. [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 15:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

: It's an interesting theory, but it strikes me as speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Signature blocks ==

I added the following fact as a real world reference:
:The characters in GamerJox monotonously reciting computer specifications at the end of their comic is a reference to the inclusion of such information in [[Wikipedia:Signature block|signature blocks]] of posts in [[Wikipedia:Internet forum|internet forums]] by computer technology enthusiasts.
And it was removed with this explanation:
:Why would he be referencing signature blocks/internet forums in an email about web comics?? And being "similar to" is not enough to be a real world reference.)
The random spouting off computer specs really deserves an explanation, and I'm convinced that this is it. Why else would he possibly have done it? To answer the question the deleter asks, I would imagine Strong Bad is implying that these characters are the kinds of people who use and see computer specs in internet forum signature blocks so regularly that they automatically use them as a "signoff" even when communicating in person. That does seem odd, but it's a joke, and that's how I interpreted it. Did anyone interpret it some other way? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 18:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded. That makes total sense. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:The reason is that it's a parody of all the unnecessary technogeekery that crop up in these types of comics. It's like if someone were to parody ''Peanuts'' by having Lucy say "Insult of Charlie Brown!" and Linus say "Vaguely related Bible verse!" Or something. There was a parody comic of ''Ozy and Millie'' that went kinda like that, but I can't find it anymore. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 04:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Here's a question though: is this more of a real-world reference or an explanation? [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 02:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Cast of Characters ==

How much of the characters in the comics and cartoons and so one should we include in the cast list? Any? All? Note that not everything in the cast has to be linked. Personally, I'm for including everyone we can name/has a speaking part. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

==Captain N==

The first Saturday morning cartoon reminds me of Captain N. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Good thing this is different than the other Captain N message about 3 blocks up -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 02:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== Stinkoman Sprite Comics ==

This is obvious, but the Stinkoman Sprite Comic definitely references Stinkoman Sprite Comics on the Fanstuff Wiki. I've seen MS Painted graphics in these things. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 01:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:P.S. This doesn't need to be STUFF'd! {{User:Im a bell/sig}}

Well, they're not the only sprite comics with MS Painted endings. 8-bit Theater, for one. I believe that the reason the TBC used Stinkoman 20X6 is that his game was the only sprite-styled game cinematic enough for sprite comic use. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:P.S. Doesn't need to be STUFF'd? Why? There seems to be other explanations. We just might need to STUFF it. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 16:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Changed my mind. No STUFF. It's spoofing the whole genre of sprite comics. Just don't put it there at all. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:It bears mentioning that the genre exists, and in fact 8-Bit Theater is/was one of the first comics to do it (and ''the'' first to become famous for doing so). If we can have a Fun Fact referencing Penny-Arcade "and its many imitators", then we should be able to have a similar one for 8-Bit Theater and its derivatives. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

== ... and elves. ==

I believe that Strong Bads line, "They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves" makes a reference to 8-bit Theater, at least the part about elves. [[User:12.18.218.230|12.18.218.230]] 01:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, because 8-Bit Theater is the only webcomic ''ever'' to be about elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Elves don't pertain to 8-Bit Theater specifically. But I would argue that the Stinkoman sprite comic ''is'' a more specific reference to 8-Bit Theater - that's the webcomic/animation series that is most commonly "blamed" for starting that particular sub-genre. I believe that's a valid reference. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:::If we're going for specifics, the Stinkoman comic is more like Bob and George, another pioneer of the genre - Mega Man sprites and MS Paint'ed non-punchlines are something of a signature for it (although in the latter case, it's never as obnoxious as presented by Strong Bad). [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm not aware of there being many (if any) "MS Paint'ed non-punchlines" in Bob and George. Its imitators, perhaps, but not B&G proper. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Turning back the hands of time, there was a pretty popular webcomic called "Elf Life." I think it's still active today. Nonetheless, other than the use of video game sprites and college gamers geeks, elves are often used as a character base line. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 13:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Why are you guys so quick to delete valid Real-World References? ==

I'm noticing a trend here, especially in this email, but more generally across the board in recently released toons and emails. This email is full of references to modern Internet culture, yet the established members of this community seem REALLY eager to just delete those references ''without discussion'' and without checking the facts (or showing they have checked the facts) being asserted. For example: My entry for the Stinkoman comic referencing 8-Bit Theater was removed almost immediately after I added it, with an edit summary saying that 8-Bit Theater was the ONLY comic out there that used video-game sprites.

Now, it's possible that person was being sarcastic (and honestly, guys, that kind of sarcasm doesn't help discussion at all), but the statement itself is patently false. Dozens of sprite-based comics (including many direct knock-offs and parodies) have been spawned mainly due to 8-Bit Theater's existence. G4 even has a syndicated TV show now based on that concept. 8-Bit Theater was one of the first comics using that particular medium to become successful (whether it was actually the very first one to do it is highly debatable, but it's famous for doing it well).

I just find it really discouraging to see people just deleting perfectly valid information like that without allowing for discussion and consensus. I realize we have STUFF, but it seems like even that vehicle is being sidestepped more and more lately. It's part of the reason I haven't been participating on this wiki as much as I used to - sometimes, this community can come across as downright hostile.

</soapbox> {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:STUFF (or at least STUFFing immediately) has been discouraged of late in favor of a talk page discussion. (See below.) As for the attitude of the people here, as long as I can remember we've had established users who are consistently sarcastic (not that there's anything right with that). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::It's one thing to be sarcastic in a friendly way, but comments like "Like this is the ''only'' place that elves have ''ever'' been referenced!" as a reply to someone asking for discussion is really quite unfriendly, and it seems against the spirit of the community that I joined two years ago. That's why I'm bringing it up now.

::As for the STUFF: I reverted your removal of my STUFF item because people have been trying to discuss that particular topic here in at least three separate threads on this Talk page. All of those have been summarily shot down as TTATOT without considering that a reference to the genre might be appropriate. I figured we'd make more headway in a single, organized discussion - that was what STUFF was originally designed for, was it not? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Our approach to STUFF has undergone some changes, and for reasons I think are quite good. More discussion and less voting is a good thing. I think it's appropriate to use a straight vote as a last resort, so STUFF does still have a purpose here, but I think it's good that we've reduced its use as we have. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Okay. I'm fine with that so long as it doesn't turn into the problematic Talk-vote process that existed before STUFF came into use in the first place. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm the one who reverted that fact, yes I *was* being sarcastic, and if you'll notice in the edit summary, references to sprite comics have been removed repeatedly. I didn't mean any particular offense or anything, so I apologize if I came across as rude. It's just, there are so many sprite-based webcomics out there that it's really impossible to say that the Stinkocomic is a direct reference to any one in particular. (Heck, *I* once attempted a sprite comic, using Chrono Trigger graphics; it got nowhere, but nevertheless.) The only way such a fact is truly "valid" is if we take the route of the "Jeeves" fact, noting more about its origin and the trend, rather than saying it's an out and out reference to one comic that TBC may or may not have heard of. -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:What exactly is a reference? The problem is that people seem to be having trouble distinguishing between references and coincidences, with some users overzealously adding real-world references based on slight similarities, and other equally zealous users deleting real-world references that are anything less than completely obvious. And then there are people to represent every spot in between. The problem is that "reference" isn't clearly defined as it pertains to the wiki, so people just use their own personal definition, and don't realize that other people's definitions may be different. I'm trying to start discussion on the issue over at [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#Standards_for_Real-World_References]], hoping that people will realize why people seem to disagree so much on RWRs, and maybe find some common ground.--[[User:Laser-Grilled Crab & Cheese Sandwich|LGC&CS]] 23:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

::YK: I had intended for that 8-Bit Theater reference to indicate that 8-Bit Theater started the trend, not necessarily to say that it was the only such comic that this email could be referencing. It probably would have been better worded as "The sprite comic parodies the genre of sprite-based web comics that began with 8-Bit Theater", similar to how Penny-Arcade is being used as a starting point for that particular genre. Make more sense that way? (And I still maintain that the same is true of Saturday Morning Cartoons - ''Pac-Man'' started that genre.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh, I agree. I actually changed the fact to reflect that yesterday (but it got removed by someone else, due to a similar one being in Explanations), though there seems to be some conflict over whether Bob and George (which I've never heard of, though that's irrelevant) or 8-Bit Theater came first. And I agree about the Saturday Morning Cartoons bit, especially Pac-Man; though where people are getting a connection to Captain N, Super Mario Bros., or the Legend of Zelda toons, I don't know. See my above rant. -{{User:YK/sig}} 17:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Captain N, SMB, Zelda, etc., are all in the same category as Pac-Man - they're just video-game-based cartoons with similar plot/character alterations. Almost all SatAm cartoons that were based on games introduced new characters and plotlines that really have nothing to do with the games themselves, but generally, the more complex the game, the less alteration happened in the cartoon. Pac-Man is *really* simple, so it would make for a really boring cartoon without adding some villains and sidekicks, and plots for global domination and all that. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well, as I said above, I see those as in a different catagory, because at the least, SMB, Zelda, and the others had some existing characters, a world, and a backstory to work with. Secret Collect, however, is more reminiscent of the cartoons such as Pac-Man that built an entire world out of a plotless, no characterization, one-screen arcade game. I get what you're saying, but to link Secret Collect to the SMB and Zelda cartoons just because they're "based on video games" is like comparing the Statue of Liberty to a Picasso painting because "they're both art". Same, but different. =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not apologizing for my "elves" quip. It ''is'' patently ridiculous to think that 8-Bit Theater was the first webcomic to ever reference elves. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:That doesn't mean you have to be rude about it. The guy's comment was a bit misguided, yes, but there are far better ways to respond to that. I personally would have been rather offended had that been me you were replying to. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::Seriously, folks, snappy answers to stupid questions and the like work well in MAD magazine, but are a real turn-off and annoyance when dealing with real people. There's just no reason for them. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Saturday Morning Cartoon Collect! ==
:''The Secret Collect Saturday morning cartoon is a reference to various cartoons produced in the 1980s that were based on video games. Most of these cartoons introduced new characters and deviated significantly from the plots or spirit of the games they were based on.''

This was another STUFF that was not brought to the talk page first. In the interest of encouraging discussion, I am moving it here so we can talk about it and hopefully not have to resort to a vote. There were two arguments for its inclusion:
<blockquote>
#The point of this FF is not to reference specific cartoons, but rather the entire genre of video-game licensed cartoons, most of which deviated significantly from the plot or spirit of the games they were based on.
#This isn't really "explaining the joke", since newer viewers unfamiliar with those old cartoons are unlikely to understand why the joke is funny.
</blockquote>

There were also several comments:
<blockquote>
*Variants of the proposed fact also reference ''Legend of Zelda'' and ''Captain N''. In the first revision of this FF, I used ''Pac-Man'' as a notable example because it enjoyed widespread popularity, mainly due to the game's own popularity in North America.
*Without referencing any/all specific video game cartoons, this may be more appropriate as a "Remark" rather than a "Real World Reference".
</blockquote>

Both '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' and '''[[User:OptimisticFool|OptimisticFool]]''' indicated that they supported keeping the fact and were responsible for the above arguments and comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

:<s>With all due respect, why do we still have a STUFF process if we're not going to use it? (Expanding on this) My understanding was that STUFF came about because the previous process, discussing Fun Facts on Talk pages, was cumbersome, difficult to manage, and people weren't taking it seriously. I'd really like to see us avoid falling back into that. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)</s> Nevermind - I'm a bit grouchy at the moment and shouldn't be taking it out on everyone here. Move along. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::OK, now my opinion. If the fact is worded so that it refers to the genre, rather than trying to make a claim to it referring to a specific show, it's probably good. Some people may not know this (especially readers born after the 80s), so it may be worth noting it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::I have no problem with the fact if it's phrased in the way Heimstern suggests. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, using ''Pac-Man'' as an example would be appropriate since it was the first cartoon show to be entirely based on a video game. The other shows that have been referenced so far came significantly later. Since we have a Penny-Arcade reference that deals with Penny-Arcade "and its imitators", and I believe a similar one about 8-Bit Theater would be appropriate since it started the sprite-based comic genre, I think it would be appropriate to mention that Pac-Man started the video-game cartoon genre. For consistency's sake, mainly. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm sure readers born after the 80s will get the joke, seeing that there's still cartoons based on video games. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I disagree. For one, today's game-cartoons are based on the actual plotlines of the games themselves, at least to a much greater extent than those of the early 80s. Today's games usually have much more in-depth plots that the cartoons either help to explain or expound upon, but the 80s cartoons had to create their plots and character sets outside of the games, or else there wouldn't have been anything to make a cartoon out of. The Secret Collect toon very obviously references the latter situation.

:::::The last notable example I can think of where a game-based cartoon deviated significantly from the game was the first Sonic the Hedgehog series, which introduced a team of "freedom fighters" and a more established universe that made the plot more believable. Even then, though, that cartoon had a much stronger connection to the game than, say, Pac-Man did. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Problem Is... ==

There are too many gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs (and elves?) editing this Wiki. And everyone fighting for their favorites, it seems. Thus the constant adding, removing and changing of so-called references. Are they references? I don't care anymore. And I don't see any end to it. Months from now, new people will come across the Wiki and go, "Hey, how did everyone miss this? This is a reference to cartoons like Pac-Man and Captain N and Zelda and Super Mario Bros and Sonic and Mega Man and Saturday Supercade." And that'll get reverted. Then someone'll see that and add back just the portions of the post ''they'' agreed with, and that'll get reverted, etc., and we'll all have a jolly time sorting through the mess. Yee haw. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:Well, to be fair, I think we can be a bit more optimistic than that. I hope I'm not foolish for thinking so. ;-) Anyway, though, I do think this will let up a bit after the email is less new. It's true that an email like this does lend itself to a lot of attempts to draw references, but even here, I think it will pass. For example, rarely do we get a new reference added to [[virus]], which was the email that inspired the STUFF process because of how many references people added. So, just give it some years, and it probably will fix itself! But in the meantime, it's important that we just have good, productive talk page discussions here to try to come to consensus on what is or isn't a reference. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::To my knowledge, no one has added fact explaining what Burn & Dodge: The Fantasy Photoshop Gradient Comic is a reference to. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

==Decades for Saturday Morning Cartoons==

I was the one who added 1990s. I believe various video game based cartoons were also on television in the 1990s as well, and some debuted in the 1990s. A prime example is Super Mario World. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 16:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:But the cartoons depicted weren't referring to the more well-made video game toons of the 90s and later. They were referring to the 80s trend of taking arcade games with no in-game story/characterization and developing an entire cartoon around them, with the only actual connection being the name and the main character. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

==MS Paint==

I think MS Paint refers to Microsoft Paint. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:*Yes, I'd say so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::*At the risk of sounding as sarcastic as the people I was criticizing earlier, does MS Paint ever really refer to anything else? Unlike something that happened in the early 80s, I think MS Paint is such a directly stated and obvious reference that it doesn't need to be restated in the RWR section. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I noticed the airbrush feature on the mixed-up comic, which is a total trademark of Paint. Also, just the overall custom work looks like it was done in paint. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

::::Mentions of MSPaint are not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

::::The "airbrush" feature in that program is also available in hundreds of other paint programs. There's nothing special about it, and I would even argue that it's not anything resembling a "trademark" of MS Paint. Paint is about the most basic paint program around, and about the only thing that makes it a better candidate than any other paint program for mention in this email is the fact that it's as ubiquitous as Windows itself. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::I agree that it's not notable, just as "Mountain Dew" is not notable as a RWR for the e-mails it appears in. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

::::::All this said, if it turns out that they start using MS Paint frequently in future toons and emails, we can always start a [[running gag]] page about it. THEN it would be more appropriate to mention where the program comes from. (We already have a [[Mountain Dew]] page.) But this won't be the case until and unless we see an actual running joke from TBC about this program, and I have my doubts that they'll do so. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==Screenshots==
How do you get the screenshots of the site like the one on the info page of Strong Bad and The Cheat looking at "Knowingest J. Drawbridges"? Do you have to have Flash? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:No. Just the print screen button on the keyboard and an image editing program. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::For more detailed help on that, check out [http://www.neopets.com/~ScreenieHelp this site]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Or even [[Help:Image#How to take a screenshot|our own section on the subject]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh, I got it now! Thanks! {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== I wish I knew what that means ==

Should we include explanations of all the techno-geek stuff the GamerJōx guys mention? I suppose I could do a quick Wikipedia search to find out what they're saying, but since I am not well versed in h4xx0r lingo, I really wouldn't know what I would be talking about. But is it even notable enough to deserve an explanation? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh, I bet most of the stuff T3h Br0s didn't even know what they were talking about. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was thinking that these items deserved a brief mention, with links to the relevant Wikipedia articles where such could be found. Want me to write that up? I understand all of the terminology. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

:::On further research, I discovered that ALL of the technobabble referred to the PS3's specifications. Basically, that last panel was just devoted to describing the PS3 in an overly technical way. I organized the explanations as such. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Rubik the Amazing Cube ==

Secret Collect is obviously Rubik the Amazing Cube, its the only saturday morning cartoon that I can remember that had a cube a boy and an evil magician, checkout wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%2C_the_Amazing_Cube]. I understand that there were many video game cartoons on saturday morning but this is definately Rubik. [[http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0798/1.jpg]] Also if you want the intro video you can see it here on youtube [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYs_GCy9PRk]]--[[User:Xhadow|Xhadow]] 06:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

:It's possible they took some inspiration from that cartoon, but the reference is more closely linked to Pac-Man (at least, that's how it appears to me) because of the video-game tie-in. Many cartoons of the period introduced evil wizards and villains, and as stated in the fun fact, the reference is a spoof of the whole genre anyway. As such, we want to avoid getting back into TTATOT territory (say THAT 3 times fast!), so I think it's best to leave Pac-Man there as the well-known example of the genre, both because it started the genre and because it's likely the best-known of them. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== A comic about nothing (except games) ===
{{stufffact|The college roommate webcomic is a reference to the webcomic [[Wikipedia:Penny Arcade (webcomic)|Penny Arcade]].}}
{{stuffverdict|20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)|02:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|23|5|web comics}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== All I ever wanted was to be your spine ===
{{stufffact|"Web in Front" is a song by North Carolina-based indie rock band [[Wikipedia:Archers of Loaf|Archers of Loaf]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)|20:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)|swiftly and unanimously accepted|10|0|web comics}}

== did I err? ==

the "photoshop gradient" comic kind of seems like the musle warrior dude of boring (really). legit reference or odd coincedince?

Not really much of a connection. One is a generic elf fantasy hero, the other is a parody of an already-known comic book character. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 20:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad and the New Paper ==

I don't know if it's worth noting, but this is the first time the New Paper has dropped down in Strong Bad's presence without SB saying something derogatory to it.
:No, that was [[pizza joint]][[User:King of wikis|King of wikis]] 00:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
::He meant it was the first time Strong Bad was in the vicinity of the New Paper and did not yell at it. He and New Paper were in separate rooms in pizza joint. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat's Computer ==
I can't believe none of you noticed that this is the first time The Cheat's computer has been seen since [[redesign]]! Think about it, the last time his computer was this new one, and then it pops back up out of nowhere! It definately seems at this point that The Cheat has trashed Tangerine Dreams! {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Photoshopped Fantasy Comics ==

If nobody else has noticed, [[web comics#Real World References]] does not have ''any'' example of a fantasy web comic. Out of all the genres spoofed in the email that is the only one we do not give an example of. I tried to add Looking for Group but it got deleted. Can anybody else think of a better example? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:I think there's too many to declare one way or another which ones should be a ref. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, I was just thinking of writing a fact like, "Burn and Dodge makes fun of Photoshopped comics such as X." Can you name a comic that I could substitute for "X"? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:::One word. Bob and George. Wat, that was three words. Oh well... {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 23:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:500 The Cheats

Bellstrom — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:18:49 GMT

Bellstrom: /* i can't hear it LOL */

{{talk|7038}}
== Why? ==

What the crap? Why? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I dunno. Why not? Maybe they just had lots and lots of old The Cheat drawings sitting around. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm with you, thunderbird. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:09, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
:I believe the answer to the question "Why?" can in this case be answered in two words: "Why not?" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, that was... odd. Feels like a Fanstuff. But I suppose it was because they have so dang many sketches lying around by now that they could edit them into a slideshow—kind of like leftovers casserole. The whole thing felt very Japanese, like the vibe of the [[Super NES|original theme song video]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Weird little toon. Heh. Maybe this was an early... uh... *very* early [[cheatday|The Cheatday]] present? -[[User:YK|YK]] 10:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Happy mornings. Email later. This will be a good day. Anybody want to count the drawings to make sure there are 500 of them? I'm kidding. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::<s>There are exactly 498 frames (not including the "loading" and the "done"). Each frame contains one The Cheat, so there should be about 500, if not exactly 498.</s> Hmm. There are exactly 536 frames altogether. Doing it again shows me the first 13 frames are "loading", and the last 23 frames are "done". First 13 frames + last 23 frames = 36. 536 - 36 = 500. Exactly 500 frames, each including one The Cheat, which means there are exactly 500 The Cheats. Yay! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I counted every single little The Cheat in the background (including ones that are usually obscured) and got to 407. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

Is this the Bros Chaps equivalent of "I got nothin'"?
:This toon was accompanied by a "new email soon" button, which makes me think that they're just giving us a snack before the main course is introduced. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:06, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::That snack was disgusting!!!! &mdash [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:::Really? I thought it was the cartoon equivalent of veal... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Is this supposed to be a semi-rip of the HamsterDance?
- Kharnellius

Maybe. Could be. Don't know be.

[[User:Cheddar Cheesia|Cheddar Cheesia]] 17:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

== That Was Fast... ==

''Dayum'', you guys are fast. XD

~ [[User:Jessica Ingmann|Jessica Ingmann]]
: I've written plenty of pages before, happened to be around when the 'toon went up, and it's not like there was a whole lot ''to'' this one... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:30, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::I honestly don't think there's any way better to summarize this toon except "What the crap? Why?". You get cupcakes, thunderbird.

== Picture ==

I don't think we should have the image for this toon be the one with the real ghost cheat easter egg enabled. Can we have a different picture? - {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 14:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:I agree. I'll replace the current one with a new one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== i can't hear it LOL ==

i'm in a library and I can't hear the toon till I get home - so, after reading the comments here ... I am convinced that it REALLY DOES suck ... I'm not just prejudging it from the silent version. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 15:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:All you're missing is music. Oh, and it doesn't suck. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:29, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::um ... yeah it does. this crap would never survive on Newgrounds --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: No flash survives on Newgrounds unless it satifies one of the following: A.) It's really good. B.) It involves video game characters C.) It involves pooping D.) It involves pot-smoking E.)It involves violence G.) It involves sex. I have seen too many flashes there that satisfy B,C,D,E way too well without satisfying A. - cakeman
::::Yeah. Newgrounds seems to do that. Even though crappiness seems to have no effect. See: Sonic adventure 2 in four minutes; Super mario dumbshine; and super mario dy es. —[[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
::::It actually doesn't "suck" ''as much'' when it's accompanied by music. It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:11, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::To respond to nerd42: I didn't think it was that bad, myself, and could see it as being something offered on Albinoblacksheep. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 04:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, '''''I''''' liked it. It made me smile. It's so random, it's funny! Anyway, this isn't the forum so we'd better quit complaining about it before we all get told off. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Spell4yr, are you referring to the Demented Cartoon Movie?!! If so, are you implying that it is crappy? If so, NOES!!!! Okay, I admit it. It's horrible animation, but at least it's funny. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 05:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Unique ==
Are each of the 500 The Cheats unique? Can somebody compare some and see if he can find any matches? (Because showcasing 500 unique Teh C. sketches is probably the point of this short.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:possibly... i thought it repeated every 15 times or so, but im not sure after looking at it. to check,right click on the flash and uncheck play, then hit forward for each frame. do a screenshot of each one, and open them in a picture editor that allows multiple layers. then compare them in that. have fun.{{User:Csours/sig}} 17:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::There are 500 The Cheat objects in the file. That doesn't exactly prove anything, except that TBC probably knew we'd take it apart to find out whether there were 500 images. Comparing each The Cheat to the others would have to be automated somehow, as a manual comparison would involve 124,750 steps (to conclusively prove it true; if it were proved false, the comparisons would likely stop much sooner). If the images were exported I'm sure a program could be set up to compare them at the bit level. (Admittedly, this method wouldn't find a match where the same The Cheat drawing was simply scanned twice.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Boy, are you guys ever in luck! I happen to have done a little bit of work on a process that is specifically used to efficiently distinguish large sets of objects. It's called "principle component analysis" or, when used for facial recognition, "eigenfaces". There are resources for it all over the web, and it's not even particularly complicated for someone with a solid background in linear algebra. Basically, each picture of The Cheat would be "normalized" so that his basic features are in the same place for each picture. Then, the algorithm assumes that any further inconsistencies are due to a random gaussian distribution, not systematic error. Then the pictures are simplified to their basic components resulting in-- are you ready for this?-- 500 eigenCheats! These 500 Cheats can be recombined to form any of the 500 original The Cheats with very little data loss. In this case, the most important analysis comes from looking at the spectrum for each Cheat and making sure that each spectrum is unique. The bad news is, as you could tell from my description, it's still a very complicated process, but the good news is that it's 100 percent automated once you lay down the code! I don't have the time or skill to take on a project this large and pointless, but if anyone out there is good at computer science or linear algebra, I think it would be a fun project. Some resources on eigenfaces are [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigenface], [http://dailyburrito.com/projects/facerecog/FaceRecReport.html], and [http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~sis26/Eigenface%20Tutorial.htm].--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 20:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Aaaaaagh! It's machine learning all over again! Oh wait, I'm still taking that class.... hmmmm. Anyway, Hehe, wow cool! Sounds like a neat idea ... my only concern is that since The Cheat will look quite like himself in most of the pics, the process will still think several of the pictures are still the same (false positives), but it sounds like a robust solution. So where did you work with this process at? I'm just curious :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heh, to be honest, I've never done anything for a class or job involving PCA. Basically, I came across "eigenfaces" while bored and struggling through linear algebra and thought they were really cool. A couple of months later, I revisited eigenfaces only to find that I had recently learned enough math to use them. After getting a little overly excited, I decided I would use the concept to create a voice recognition program. My program never worked properly (it turns out voices are a lot more complicated than I thought...), so that's why I don't want to do this project-- I'd probably screw it up.

:::::Nevertheless, the third link I provided above has a ready-to-go eigenfaces program that seems to work just fine. The biggest hurdle is normalizing the Cheat pictures, which TBC seem to have given us a pretty good first approximation for. Still, their features have to line up almost perfectly for the gaussian approximation to be meaningful. You could vary horizontal and vertical stretch/skew as well as horizontal and vertical position for a total of six parameters. That means you'll have to find six identifiable features on The Cheat and either mark them yourself (time consuming) or have your computer find them automatically (difficult-- beyond my scope) and then fit each of those to a set standard. From there you can do the PCA analysis with ease. I have a feeling that unless someone reading this is absolutely nuts, it's not going to get done, but if we absolutely had to know if each picture is unique, that's how I'd do it.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 01:16, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Coool! Math rocks! Usually. As for the eigenfaces, it still sounds like too much work for the endeavour, so I'll have to decline that one. Still sounds like a really cool "waste of time" :) I also have other "techincal questions" regarding what to consider a "unique The Cheat" but I think i'll leave that for later. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:01, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

==Music Track Layers==
there are 3 music layers on this thing, the drums, the cheat, and some midi/synthesizer type thing... any of them familiar on their own? {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
*Definitely the drum loop is from the homestar runner theme song. -[[User:Eman]]
** I went ahead and added this reference. {{User:Eman/sig}}

==I agree with Strong Bad now...==
:Too much of a good thing is an awesome thing, but too much of an awesome thing is, um, dumb. And bad. -[[Strong Bad]] &mdash [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:I don't see why everyone is complaining. I liked it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::You guys are not obligated to like everything on the H*R site, but complaining about it here is not helping matters at all. Either talk about it on the forum or send feedback to TBC. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I liked it. I thought it was nice. The tune was catchy. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 18:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::It was just creepy... -Kinsey
::::This was absolutely adorable! - Psi

==Hamsterdance?==

Could this be a possible spoof on Hamsterdance, were they have hundreds of hamsters doing different things to a high-pitched, uptempo version of the opening theme to Disney's Robin Hood?
:Yes, I would say it that is possible. But ''only'' possible, and therefore not something we should note in the article. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

That is the FIRST thing i thought when i saw it, and it's actually the reason i've logged in right now, to see if other people "see it". it definitely has the resemblence, with the dozens of The Cheats in the background doing their thing, and the squeaky voice singing weird sounds with no words. If this the angle they were going for, the mind-altering funky weirdness thing, i'm glad they modelled it after hamsterdance, which pulls it off, and not badgerbadgerbadger, which doesn't =). Frank
:Did somebody say [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Happy Trogday|"All Your Base?"]] Just because a toon might be similar to something on the Internet, it doesn't mean it was based on it. In any case, it's probably just a [[Stupid Coincidence Magazine|Stupid Coincidence]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== AAAAGGGGHH!! ==

What's more to say? -{{User:Marth 99/sig}} 20:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's a pretty good description, actually. I think that sums up this Talk Page quite well. :P {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:51, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::You guys ''can't'' be serious. I mean, you'd halfta have a screw loose not to love this cartoon. It's so cute and catchy, plus I'm obsessed with The Cheat. There's that. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:::Just a reminder: Please take ''opinions'' to the '''forum'''. Talk ''content'' here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Sorry, man, but I'm done with the nasty forums. If it's bothering anyone, they can take it down. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

:::::Meh, these "opinions" seem harmless. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

==Inspired by The Cheat Theme Song?==
I just watched [[The Cheat Theme Song]] for the first time in a while, and noticed a part where there are many The Cheats in a grid across the screen with the background changing colors. Is the similarity worth a mention? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:04, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

== Is There? ==

Is There a constant loop of this song somewhere? [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

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Bellstrom — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:05:35 GMT

Bellstrom:

== Licensing ==
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Talk:Summer Short Shorts

Bellstrom — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:04:39 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Pom Pom segment */

==Pom Pom segment==
Anyone want to bet how long it'll take before someone claims this is a Naruto reference? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:You mean like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=348440&oldid=348439 here?] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::D'oh! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I was a bit fast on that one. But somehow you've just proven that it's obviously Naruto :-P {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Did any of you notice that part of this segment contradicts the "Strong Bad is in jail catoon"? In the begining of said cartoon, Strong Bad and The Cheat run up to Bub's Concession Stand which is shown right next to the woods. But when Pom Pom does that huge jump in this segment, it appears that Strong Badia is located between the woods and the Concession Stand. Weird o_0. [[User:Scholar of Homestar|Scholar of Homestar]] 15:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Obviously Naruto, or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or House of Flying Daggers, or any other film where people fly through the trees. Actually I'm inclined to say it's more of a reference to live action martial arts because of way Pom Pom hovers above the ground before seems to parody the effect of using counterweight harnesses to give the effect of actors jumping incredibly high. I've never seen any of the ninjas on Naruto do that. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's a reference to Prowlies at the River: http://www.biteycastle.com/prowlies.html
::::::Or it could be any movie/cartoon with lots of jumping through a forrest. as stated above.
Actually-actually ;), I thought people would think it was a Naruto reference because of the backgrounds. Although those backgrounds don't feature in the Naruto show in and of itself, it does feature in Cartoon Network's ads for Naruto, and add that with the ninja references and you'll see how people could get the idea. Without those backgrounds, it's just generic anime martial arts stuff. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. And my first thought on seeing it was that it was a reference to "Ninja Scroll". But it's probably true... just a generic ninja anime/wuxia reference.
:*I thought the hovering was just because Pom Pom's a floatyman, like in the Yello Dello. I'm glad to see him get some screen time, though![[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
I think the fun fact "The sky can be seen inside Bubs' Concession Stand during Pom Pom's scene. This would only be possible if one of the walls were missing" should probably be in remarks instead of goofs, because it's almost certainly a stylistic thing, rather than a real error.
--[[User:LuigiHann|LuigiHann]] 01:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

There's also a refrence to the video game Dynamite Headdy in that scene. The wave background reminded me of the first fight with Trouble Bruin(the teddy bear) in which those waves were seen in the "japanese" background in the fight. Don't know what I mean? Watch a video of level 1 on YouTube. Then you'll see it.
:Um.. Ever notice that the jungle here looks almost exactly like the LV9 background in MYOS?

[[Image:LV9-Shortshortcomparison.png]]

WELL?!! {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 00:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== First forest ==

Is it worth mentioning that this is the first instance of a forest in the standard animation style? [[User:216.232.210.238|216.232.210.238]] 08:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Sure. I mean, that could be the creepy halloween forest during summer, but still...--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== pi=pie? ==
Does anyone else think the Pi reference in this and weclome back could tie in with the pie running joke?

:I think you got it [http://clampettstudio.com/images/archives/wb/WB1026-PiE.jpg confused]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Eggselent ==

I don't believe that Homestar says "Eggs, can I get you gentlemen..." I think he says the more logical "And". Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Definatly sounds like "And" to me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::I leaning towards "And". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Ef=ggs!
::::I think it should read "and", but I just wanted to say yes, I initially wondered whether he was saying "eggs". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Coz I hear a faint S sound on the end and I did the transcription is why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I don't think it's an "S" sound at the end. I think you see the word egg on his hat and THINK you hear "eggs." I'm pretty sure he is saying "Annnnnd, can I get you gentelmen anything else?" It makes more sense and if you listen you can hear the "D" sound. It just sounds kind of like an "S-ish" sound because of the way Matt does Homestar's voice. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I heard "thanks." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:I think that it makes sense that he says eggs. I know that you know that on Homestar's hat it says "eggs". he might be saying eggs to get the thought into Strong Bad's head to buy some eggs. or he's just acting stupid, like Homestar has been acting in recent days. --[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 04:37, 10 January 2007

:It's possible that he could be saying "eggs." I heard a definite "s" sound on the end of that word, which wouldn't make sense if it was "and." --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 22:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Raising the Seek Bar... ==

[[Image:LaBrea.PNG|thumb|Seek bars not spake here.]]
Lapper removed the Transcript edit about Cave Strong Bad's feet poking out from under the tar pit. He said it only comes up when you use a Seek Bar. I present to you: exhibit A. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I removed it because I checked on that a few hours ago and thought it was only the seek bar. But I did a very sloppy check. You were absolutely right. (btw, I'm not Lapper) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry. Guess you're not the only one who did a sloppy check. Happens to the best of us. And me, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I didn't know if you were just trying to prove that it happens or that it's an error on their part. Because if you think it's a glitch, I think it was done badly on purpose because it's PBTC. Notice there are two layers of Strong Bad's head that appear and disappear over each other too. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 10:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::That's why it's in the transcript and not in the goofs section. ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:I watched it, I have no seek bar, and I saw Caveman Strong Bad's feet go through the mud.
::Same here. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 17:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Everybody sees it, and it's been put back in the transcript days ago :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== From the front to the back... ==

So these pants we are staring at: Are these from the front or the back? I can't really tell. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I say the front.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC) [[Image:Goodgraphics.PNG|thumb]]
::Back, and thus a double entendre on "end." [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 12:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Nice idea, but the same image is shown in the beginning and in the end.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Can't Really Tell. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:::::I don't really think it matters. And anyway, does anyone else think it's a ''little'' strange to be starring at Matt's shorts to try to figure out if it's the front of the back? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree it's weird, lol. But I think it's the back too. Just try to imagine knee caps below where the image is cut off. Just.. doesn't.. seem... natural. Looks like the back of the legs. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 10:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's the front. Note the creases along the front seam, like crow's feet wrinkles on both sides. Those are the kinds of creases that form in the fronts of pants from sitting in them (I should know, as I do the laundry and ironing here!).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure it's the front now, as in Decemberween Short Shorts it's more short shorts, and you know it's the front because it has a little buckle. So they're most likely both the front. {{User:Salty/sig}} 19:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

== Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy ==

I think the lyrics for "Brain Sister" are wrong (The trancscriber didn't seem too confident anyway). The line "She's a {mile?} away" sounds like it ends "all day" to me, not "away". Obviously "She's a mile all day" makes no sense at all, So I'm pretty sure that whole line is wrong. Can anybody make it out? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:And I don't seem able to manage any more than "She {three syllables} all day". I'm giving up for now. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I can't quite make it out, but to me it sounds more like "a low-res beauty queen" rather than a "lonely". [[User:67.42.210.44|67.42.210.44]] 20:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it's something like "{something} texas all day". [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 20:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I heard "low-res" the first two times, until I read the transcript. It's kinda mushy though, with the background music, so it's hard to tell.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::I hear "lonely", and "away"... I put in the "She's a {mile?} away" bit, after trying, without much success, to dampen the guitar and such in Audacity... it sounds kinda (to me) like "She's a [[Wikipedia:-izzle|mizz-ile]] away", but I didn't think that fitted with the Limozeen genre... hence the braces and the question mark. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:::The two times it says 'And she would never tell you you could do it!' are wrong... I hear something like 'And she remembers how to get to *indistinguishable*!'A lot of people are reverting and editing all the lyrics. Just look at the quote of the week! It gives the exact lyrics. I"m not going to try and edit them anyone because somebody might yell at me.[[User:199.224.118.156|199.224.118.156]] 21:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
: Only one person reverted the lyrics: me. And I hadn't checked the QoW so I didn't realize it'd been updated. My bad. I already fixed it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::The [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=349549&oldid=349541 original transcript] of the Limozeen song wasn't just wrong, it wasn't even close. Like, it wasn't even ''close'' to close. Close and it had never met. So I wonder if TBC made that the QotW for our sake. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::And, yea verily, the Brothers Chaps did end this most screwy argument by revealing the truth within a humble Quote of the Week.
::::That's it; I'm now convinced TBC monitor our confusions and use QoWs and DVD commentaries where they can to solve them. Though in this case, I don't know anyone would have been expected to get all that by ear. "Th'all"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, it was also more muffled in the 'toon itself than in the QoW. I transcribed ''most'' of the song (incorrectly), but that's really what my best guess was. Only reason I reverted it was because the real lyrics were a bit... out there, to be frank, and I hadn't seen the QoW yet. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I know the QotW explicitly says "2017", but I think the Bros. Chaps had to truncate it to make it fit within the QotW box. I tried changing it to "twenty-seventeen", as I think it makes much more sense in context, but as expected, it was changed back to agree with the QotW version. Any thoughts? Agree? Disagree?--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:TBC said it's "2017", so it is "2017". Even if you would have liked them to say "twenty-seventeen". And how do you know "she" is not a calculator, maybe the old [http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/a-bus2017-1.html 2017]? The song would still make sense (well, as much as it does make sense). Or 2017 is her height in millimeters? You don't know. So better stick with what TBC said.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::For the record, I ''do'' think they printed it that way to fit in the box. I think we should use 2017 in the transcript, but goodness sake, look how packed the box was already and the twelve characters they saved! But yeah, as intriguing as the calculator idea is, I think it's meant in an age sense, as a play on the Beatles line, and in a number-formation play like [[Tooty-two|tooty-two]] and "[[Wikipedia:110 (number)|eleventy-one]]". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm in favor of "twenty-seventeen" because 2017 can be said as "two thousand seventeen" or "two oh one seven" or so forth. There's only one way to read "twenty-seventeen". And wouldn't eleventy-one be 111, rather than 110? :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::([[Wikipedia:Eleventy]] redirects to [[Wikipedia:110 (number)|110]] and mentions Tolkien; true, [[Wikipedia:Eleventy-one|Eleventy-one]] redirects to [[Wikipedia:111 (number)|111]], but with no explanation why. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC))
::::I'm with Jay on that one. "twenty-seventeen" is the joke here and not some 4-digit number. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::I vote for twenty-seventeen. TBC also skipped a line and missed two of the "brain"s. They had to squish it down to fit. They probably would've put "twenty-seventeen if there was enough room.
::::::Good point, the QotW isn't word for word lyrics anyway. And it's also true that writing "twenty-seventeen" in the transcript would give people a better idea of what Larry actually sang. So I've officially changed my mind now ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Only because it makes it easier to understand what Larry actually sang do I agree. Otherwise it's hard to really say. TBC gave us an official "2017" spelling, even if it was only to fit in the box. The thing is, spelling it out makes more sense because like stated before... there is only ONE WAY to read it! Someone who hadn't seen the toon might be thinking a number. Even though there isn't a comma there for that to make sense. Actually it makes sense both ways now that I think about it. I don't think it really matters either way. But my official vote is I think it should be written out as "twenty-seventeen." --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::There was no TI-2017 made. It refers, as far as I can tell, to the [http://www.datamath.org/Sci/Galaxy/TI-37GalaxySolar.htm TI 37], (20+17) or [http://www.datamath.org/Desktop/ti-340.htm TI 340] (20*17) made in the 80's or the 70's respectively. Both had low resolution, to be sure. Just trying to figure out what "duet" means.

This brings up a recurring "should QoW texts be taken as gospel truth" debate. On which I'm not exactly a strict constructionist; I think we should give TBC a little leeway to represent it one way without it necessarily being set in stone. In other words, I'm reversing what I just said above, and ''do'' think it should read "twenty-seventeen". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
:Right on, AbdiViklas. When I first argued for spelling out the word, it wasn't so much about right or wrong, it was just about clarity and accepting that TBC, awesome as they may be, are fallible (or in this case, subject to constraints). A significant portion of the wiki is devoted to mistakes (the "Goofs" and "Glitches" sections) so I think it's important to keep an open mind even when the "puppeteers", so to speak, show up to provide clarification. Those are just my thoughts on the matter. Another case closed.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fries and Catsup ==

Arn't they the same as from the e-mail [[funny]], from the "Computer Catsup" scene?
:Yes, unless you count "computer Catsup" as different. {{User:Steve/sig}} 17:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::OMG I HATE WHEN PPL SAY CATSUP. ITS KETCHUP!!! - anonymous
:::First of all, either apply. Chill. Second, sign your posts properly. Like this. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::::And besides, no one said "cat's up", they ''typed'' it. Just pronounce it as you like. Who's gonna know? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'll also point out that "Catsup" and "Ketchup" are both perfectly acceptable spellings for the same thing. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 08:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== Captain Caveman ==

It's not nearly close enough for me to try to suggest that this was intentional, but the spots on Marzipan's cavewoman outfit remind me of the spots on [[Wikipedia:Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels|Captain Caveman]]'s cape. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

:From looking at [[Wikipedia:Image:Caveman.jpg|that picture]] i see that the cape was orange and the spots were circular. Marzipan is wearing brown and the spots are oddly shaped. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams, {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:(Edit conflict) Much unlike the spots on [[Wikipedia:Fred Flintstone|Fred Flintstone's]] fashionable outfit of course ;-) I think it's just a caveman cliche.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

== Winger ==

I would like just to add that the Limozeen song might also be a reference to the Winger song, "seventeen".
Sincerely, Very Anonymous
:Is there any other reason than the title? There are many [[IMDB:seventeen|movies]] having "seventeen" in the title, and I'm sure there are even more songs. [[Wikipedia:Seventeen (song)|Here]] are some, and [[Wikipedia:Sixteen Going On Seventeen|here]] is one more. What makes the Winger song stand out?{{User:Loafing/sig}}

:I have 2 reasons
*1. It says "She's only seventeen"
*2. Winger is a metal band as well, as opposed to the Beatles.
:Sincerely, Anonymous
::I'm still not quite convinced. Actually, after looking at the Limozeen lyrics again, I'm no longer sure the Beatles reference is very obvious. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

==Some 'splainin' to do?==
Is the Explanation "The Limozeen sequence simulates a laser show" even remotely necessary? What could it possibly be mistaken for? It's like saying "The sequence with Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat simulates eating in a restaurant." -- [[User:69.168.10.233|69.168.10.233]] 02:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

: Not necessarily. Some people might not realize it's supposed to be a laser light show, and miss the laser light that is drawing the images behind it. They might think it's a weird art style. *shrug* -- {{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

::It's there mostly to hang the [[Wikipedia:Laser lighting display|link to Wikipedia]], so that, as Bleed0range mentioned, people who don't know what a laser show is can find out. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

:::I didn't know it was a laser show because I'd never heard that term before. It's useful enough. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 15:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Seems ok to me. Not everybody knows what a laser show is (Do they still do those?) And I'll corroborate that I missed the connection until I saw the fun fact. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

:I have replaced the link to Wikipedia with a link to [[Lasers]], which in turn links to [[Wikipedia:Laser lighting display|Wikipedia]]. I'm not sure if the laser bit should now be moved from Explanations to Inside References.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, actually I thought it was some vector-graphics-thing going on. Oops. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]]

:It is. When my wife and I saw this part, we both said, "Look! Stone Mountain!" It's a laser show nearly identical to the nightly summertime production at Stone Mountain Park just outside Atlanta. (I've added this to the main article.) - Troy Thompson, near Atlanta, GA

::I'm not that convinced... Could you explain why it could be a reference to this particular laser show and not to laser shows in general? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== "Bliiiing"? ==

I coulda swore that Homestar said "Bootleg!" instead of "Bliiiiing!" Sounds a lot like "Bootleg" to me. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 13:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
: I'm not sure what Homestar is saying, but it has a long "E" sound, so no "Bootleg". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::When originally transcribed, I wrote "budeling" (pronounce as "boo-deh-ling"). Next day I come back, and it's changed, and I'm wondering why... I think it's just nonsense anyway... But I think it has too many syllables to just be "bliiiing". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I hear it as "Wiiiiiiing". {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I hear it as 'Boodaliiing!', pronounced boo-dah-ling with the ling being stretched out. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 20:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I changed it because I can't hear three syllables at all. I think it's more like "bliiiiing" with the "b" detached from the "liiiing". So I guess I'm really hearing "Bu-liiiiing".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but I hear no "ling" anywhere in it. I hear "Boo-diiiing" and that's all I hear.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 09:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think it's like, "boo-del-liing." --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

==Blue Collar TV reference?==

Could this possibly be a reference to Blue Collar TV, you know, with the short skits that are pretty dry? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:It could be a reference to any number of TV shows/Flash cartoons/movies. For a couple of examples, [[Wikipedia:22 Short Films About Springfield|22 Short Films About Springfield]], the [[Wikipedia:Dave Kelly (artist)#The Flash Tub|Flash Tub]]'s "Tub Bites!", [[Wikipedia:And Now For Something Completely Different|And Now For Something Completely Different]]... --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 03:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's pretty much just a reference to Robot Chicken. The skits are pretty much unrelated to each other and the static on the tv appears when changing skits, or at least it did on the first one if I remember correctly. That's just like Robot Chicken.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Robot Chicken satirizes TV shows, has a different kind of humour and many more torn off limbs than we see in SSS. The only things they have in common are the static and the fact that it's a clip show. And that's way too generic to be a reference.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Well then I don't think it's trying to reference anything in particular outside the generic idea of a clip show.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 09:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I agree with Breed Orange. But if you really think it is robot chicken, let's take a vote. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't really think it's a reference to anything, its just a bunch of short toons. Probably stuff that they made but couldn't find any other places to use them in. -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 18:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Too many ones... ==

Hey! You guys think that maybe all these ones (warm ones, not so cold ones, 'old ones, and the like) are running gags stemming from [[property of ones]]? I mean, the different variations didn't appear until [[property of ones]]...-[[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 04:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, see [[Cold One]]. One of my more favorite Inside Jokes. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== confused/weirded out ==

i did not understand the part in the very begining...so The Cheat iz Strong Mad's girlfriend? I'm totally confused...i mean the whole sketch wuz so random so I think they did it 4 the sake of randomness...do u agree? {{User:Rabb/sig}}
:The Cheat's male. It was just Strong Bad/Mad being random. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, I think it was just a reference to guys insulting other guys by calling them ladies or other female names. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
:::That's true, it was probably more of an insult to The Cheat. But it's hard to say. I didn't get it. But you know what really was weird?!? What in the world is going on when Homestar shows up and holds up a clown shoe with a flower growing out of it? What was the purpose exactly? What does it all mean!!? --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I took the clownshoe as a reference to [[She Loves Me!|this]], what with the flower and the shoe (remember how the Converse is the next button in this particular game) being such major players.--[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:::::I took the shoe to be a reference to "Get Smart", with the infamous "shoe phone".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 00:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom's facial expression ==

Current article says: "{as Homestar says "Soggy", Pom Pom gets a dull, bored look on his face.}"

While lowered, non-angled eyelids can be interpreted that way, in this context, it's probably more of an annoyed/aggravated expression.

==I Am Not Exempt==

"Exempt" sounded more like "egg-zampt". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well, PbTC voices ARE notoriously poor... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Wait! How does he do the voices anyway? O_O {{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I ''could'' tell you, but then Strong Mad will beat me to a pulp. Of...orange juice. For breakfast. -Alex H. --[[User:68.248.158.216|68.248.158.216]] 12:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

==DVD?==
Is this toon featured on [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]?--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
:Given it was made a good 8 months after EE, the answer is no. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 20:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

== Saved by the Bell? ==

*''Homestar performing the magic trick with a flower growing out of a shoe is a reference to the waiter "Max" from "Saved by the Bell", who was often seen performing magic tricks while serving the students their food.''

Is this true? An anonymous user put it up under Real World references, but I couldn't verify it. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 19:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

:[[Wikipedia:Saved_by_the_Bell#Other_main_characters|Yup]]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 19:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
::Oh thanks Bluebry! I'll put it back then! [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 19:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Um, never mind! You already did that...! [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 19:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

== Puppet Stuff trouble? ==

Am I the only one who can't access the Puppet Stuff Easter Egg from the end of these short shorts?
:I think you might be... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== Lazer Show Reference? ==

Watching the Limozeen lazer show scene, I was thinking, is that part a reference to the lazer show at [[Wikipedia:Stone Mountain|Stone Mountain Lazer Show in Georiga]]? I say this because 1. The 2006 one, which occured July 7, 2006, isn't that far from the July 25, 2006 release from this toon, and 2. [[The Brothers Chaps]] are in Georiga. Do you think so? -[[User:Andrewnuva199|Andrewnuva199]] 08:53, November 25, 2007
:They mention a laser show in the commentary, but I can't recall which. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 01:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::Do you have anything specifically ABOUT the laser show? The Wikipedia page had nothing. Well, it had things, but not anything pertaining to the laser show. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:::From the DVD commentary:

'''MIKE:''' Uh, so, if you've ever seen a laser show like this ''recently'', it's not very different from if you saw a laser show like this twenty years ago.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, the laser show at Stone Mountain, uh, has not changed at all.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I— I hadn't been for maybe 15 years, and we went a couple years ago and it's just amazingly bad as it ever was.

'''MATT:''' Do they still do that part where it looks like Spirographs and they play Axel F from Beverly Hills Cops?

'''MIKE:''' They don't play Axel F. The music changes, but, uh, the lasers are still very— very bad animated bears.

:::Hope that helps. Oh, and it's spelled "laser". =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Okay, that doesn't mean that the segment is a reference, quite the opposite, they made a generic laser show and later reminisced about the stone mountain one in the commentary. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I agree that it's not necessarily a reference (I'm still on the fence about that). But my intent wasn't to say, "See? It's a reference!" It was just to fill everyone in since DorianGray brought up the DVD commentary. Either way, it seems clear that the laser show in Summer Short Shorts was ''influenced'' by Stone Mountain. Whether that counts as a reference or not... {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Mabye "reference" was the wrong word. I guess the word "inspired" or "influenced", like Optimistic Fool said, could be better.-[[User:Andrewnuva199|Andrewnuva199]] 02:02, November 26, 2007

Talk:yes, wrestling

Bellstrom — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:36:59 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Poo Yeah? */

== "Real" wrestlers ==
Spiky Shoulderpads are possibly parodying the Road Warriors or the Legion of Doom.
The "Facepaint connection" directly parodies Demolition, including the Mr. Fuji-esque manager.
Jack 'em Up kid's outfit is similar to the Junkyard dog, but talks more like Hulk Hogan.
Boliver Turnbunkler may refer to William Regal.
--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with the Road Warriors. I don't even know wrestling (like, at all), and I thought of it. (I probably remember some wrestling game review in Nintendo Power...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:Threw in the Road Warriors as well as specific jabs at Hulk Hogan. I don't know if the "EM UP" on the back of Homestar's tights is similar enough to "THUMP" on the back of JYD's to merit inclusion. And by the way, I've been watching wrestling for 20 years -- this email is downright hilarious. --[[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
::The out-of-breath three-words-at-a-time ranting is classic, isn't it? But anyway, I think "EM UP" to "THUMP" would get rejected hard around here, unless you can show that the location/lettering is similar. I haven't seen this, and couldn't find an image of it quickly. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Missed an Easter egg. ==

don't miss the jack 'em up kid merch easter egg by clicking on the S behind said kid in interview {{User:TheDude/sig}} 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

<nowiki>Click on the Big S during Homestarrunner interview to see souvenirs </nowiki>

== We HAVE seen his moves... some of them anyway (oh, and grammar error) ==

I don't wanna go adding anything to this article about it as I don't know the proper names, but we saw SB perform a suplex and a piledriver in sibbie... my wrestling knowledge isn't good enough to know what kind they were, so I'll leave it up to someone more in the know :) [[User:Psi|Psi]] 23:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Oh yeah, and I don't think"Dear awesome Strong Bad." is actually a sentence, as it does not contain a verb, despite SB's remark.
: On the "PS", of course it isn't. However, "Dear Strong Bad" '''SHOULD''' end in a comma, not a period. It's just Strong Bad mocking the writer's grammar like always. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

: Strong Bad was also taxidoimied suplexing a cougar in funeral.[[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Another grammar error ==

When SB types "dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving" (misspelling "fueled" as "feuled" on the screen), shouldn't it be hyphenated as "dinosaur-tranquilizer-fueled?" I know at least "tranquilizer-fueled" is.
:Technically, yes, you are correct. That kind of modifier should be hyphenated.[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
== Fo' Sizzle ==

I'm thinking it's Sizzleweight. The emblem on the belt shows bacon and a fried egg.. sizzling? Although it does sound like ''Strong Bad'' says it "Fizzle" .. but maybe that's just him mocking Homestar.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:In this case, I just picked whatever I thought I heard, since it wasn't very distinct. I can see "sizzleweight" being right now that you mention it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I keep hearing "thistleweight", but i guess "sizzle" makes more sense... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jackemettes ==

I think comparing this to "Juggalo" is a bit much of a stretch. I admit this may be partially due to a strong dislike of ICP. [[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*I have friends in a wrestling troupe who wrestle in Juggalo/Juggalette style, so I don't think it's much of a stretch. I think we should at least acknowledge the Juggalette/Jackemette similarity. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V15]]

== Poo Yeah? ==

I don't hear a "P" sound. It's more like "Hoo Yeah" or "Who Yeah" [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I hear "hoo yeah" as well. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''hoo''', this ain't no [[Important Rap Song]] here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, '''"Hoo, yeah!"''' Well, I like the comma in there, but I might be outnumbered. But it ain't .. the other thing .. that I can't even bring myself to type. I don't like that word. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It's probably "Boo Yeah". I think that would be a portmanteau of "Boo Yah" and "Oh Yeah". {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 03:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

==C'mon Guys, Seriously==

It's about time we made the KOT booing off screen a running gag. Hes done it like, 8 times man! {{unsigned|68.53.87.6| 00:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)}}
:You mean [[The King of Town Booing]]? That was created a couple hours before you posted this? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Singers ==

I can hear the Thnikkaman singers, but it sounds like they're being accompanied by Crackotage. Anyone else hear this? -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

Talk:Sketchbook

Bellstrom — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:27:57 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Crotch shot */

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Everything is viewed through blurred vision.

'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Place:''' [[The Field]]

'''Icon:''' Glasses

'''Page title:''' 20/200!

'''Date:''' Tuesday, July 24, 2007

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — Homestar holds up a vision testing chart.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — Pulsating red dots appear onscreen. Homestar says, "Hey, are you okay? How many fingers am I holding up?"
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — Homestar's shirt changes — first to a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Peacey P|Peacey P]] shirt, then to a blue [[Wikipedia:Fila_(company)|Fila]] shirt, then to his [[duckie shirt]], then back to his original star shirt.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — Strong Bad walks through the Field in his [[underwear]] shouting, "My pants! Come here, my pants! Has anybody seen my pants?"
*'''[[Store]]''' — Glasses are placed on the viewer, allowing for better vision. Homestar's shirts are still blurred.
*'''[[Email]]''' — Strong Sad appears, holding up Strong Bad's pants and saying, "Well, lookie what I found!"

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
* The page title, "20/200", is the [[Wikipedia: Visual acuity|visual acuity]] measurement used as the threshold for legal blindness.
* The [[Wikipedia: Eye chart|eye chart]] held up by Homestar is known as a "Tumbling E" chart.
* When the glasses are put on, Homestar's shirt logos are still blurred because logos, trademarked designs, and certain words on clothing are often obscured by the producers of visual media (usually television or music videos) when they don't want the logos, designs, or words visible in the final product.

===Trivia===
*The vision chart Homestar holds up reads:
::E W M 
:Ǝ M E W E 
:WMEƎWEW 
ƎMWEMƎEMEWƎWEM

===Remarks===
*By using the Store button after selecting a button which triggers an animation (or by using the [[main page glitch]]), you can watch the scene unblurred.
*The main page has been redesigned slightly:
**The buttons have a new, shinier look.
**There is a little more space in the center.
**The colors on the striped sides are darker and their gradient is more prominent.
**The shadows are larger and more realistic.
*During the Games effect, Homestar's mouth animation is off.
*The sky's design is the one used in [[the chair]] and [[Drive-Thru]].
*This main page lacks a [[Irregular Loading Screen|loading screen]].
*The weeklies' pop-up windows are not blurred.
*Strong Bad is seen wearing [[underwear]], but in [[New Boots]], he claims he doesn't wear them. However, he does wear underwear in [[senior prom]] and [[stand-up]].
*This main page does not appear to be included in the Main Page randomizer.

===Goofs===
[[Image:SB undawears.PNG|thumb|100px|Legs?]]
*The Weeklies buttons' text, when rolled over, are not in the correct spot.
*The logos on Homestar's shirt extend outside the shirt.
*On Main Pages [[Main Page 15|15]], [[Main Page 22|22]], and 24, at the main page quick links button (in the bottom left corner), the main page 24 button overlaps the white stripe.
*As the glasses are being put on and taken off, the scene is unblurred even outside the lenses.
*Strong Bad's legs don't go through the holes in his underwear, but instead seem to go behind his torso.


===Fixed Goofs===
*From around July 31, 2007 to September 30, 2007 the [[Main Page Messages]] were not blurred.

===Glitches===
*The [[HR:newbutton.swf|newbutton.swf]] file slightly overlaps the frames of the glasses.
*Main Page 24 is the only main page that currently does not function correctly on the [[Wikipedia: Nintendo Wii|Nintendo Wii]] and [[Wikipedia:PlayStation 3|PlayStation 3]]'s web browsers. The text on the links on the left side of the screen is missing, and the links are not clickable. The links also do not produce the roll-over effects either. The Main Page selection in the bottom left-hand corner is missing entirely. All of the buttons on the top right-hand corner are missing as well. Homestar also lacks the star on his shirt, and the blur effects are not visible (but the page is slightly faded). Strong Bad is also legless.
**This is due to the Wii and PS3's web browsers only supporting Flash Player 7 and lower content, while Flash 8 or higher is necessary to do the blurring effects found here.


===Inside References===
*Homestar refers to his [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible fingers]].
*This is another appearance of Homestar's [[duckie shirt]].
*Strong Bad and Strong Sad both make references to Strong Bad's [[pants]].
*Blurry T-shirt logos and [[Peacey P]] were previously featured in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Fila (company)|Fila]] is an Italian sportswear manufacturing company.

==External Links==
*[[HR:main24.html|go to Main Page 24]]
*[[HR:main24.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 24]]
*[[Forum:11984|forum thread re: Main Page 24]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category: Main Pages]]

Homestar Quiz

Bellstrom — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:32:30 GMT

Bellstrom: undid revision 513433; look at the last page on the stack of pages

{{gamenav|Old Game|quiz|Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Talker}}

[[Image:homestarquiz.PNG|thumb|Prinicpal Strong Bad offers cookies for a job well done]]

This is a quiz on one's knowledge of the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work.

'''Page Title:''' Smell that purple ink!!

== Transcript ==

After taking the quiz, {{Film|Strong Bad}} analyzes the results and tells you how you did. Below are the details of what he says depending on how many answers you got right.

=== When you get all ten answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, you obviously cheated, which means you're my kind of person. Have a cookie.

''{Strong Bad holds up a cookie sheet with some cookies on it. A 3x5 card comes onto the screen with a recipe:}''
<blockquote>
'''The Poopsmiths Super Deluxe You-Know-What Cookies '''
1 1/2 cup flour 
1 cup sugar 
1 tsp vanilla 
1 tsp cinammon 
2 cups YOU-KNOW-WHAT 
Mix everything together in a toilet bowl. Spoon onto ungreased, rusty cookie sheet. 
Bake at 800 degrees until golden black.</blockquote>

=== When you get eight or nine answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, man. I knew you had crap for brains, but, I mean, it's like the ''{beating fist on desk}'' crap in your ''brains'' ''{stops hitting desk}'' has crap for brains.

=== When you get seven answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a mother's voice}'' Sweetheart, wake up! It's time for diaper school, where it's okay to be as stupid as you are!

=== When you get five or six answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Da-da da-da da da! You're the stupidest guy and you probably eat stupid pie, so go home and cry, you very stupid GU-UY!!!

=== When you get three or four answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, brother. I know kids in diaper school that are smarter than you, man!

=== When you get one or two answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, that does it. You're the stupidest guy in the world. Oh, or stupidest girl. Hey, you'll have to pardon me. I can't see very well from here without my glasses.

=== When you get it all wrong: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears throat, then collapses onto the desk laughing, randomly pounding his fist}'' You're so stupid! What a moron! You're so dumb! You didn't get any right! That's so pathetic! ''{sits back up and clears throat again}''

== List of Questions ==
#In the theme song video, Bubs is dancing in front of which of these arcade games?
#:a. Seicross
#:b. The Adventures of [[Wikipedia:David Hasselhoff|David Hasslehoff]]
#:c. Dokle II
#:d. Clu-Clu Land
#According to his bio, where does Bubs attend night classes?
#:a. Woodrow Roosevelt High
#:b. Disco Tech
#:c. Easy Living Candy Store
#:d. Canada
#On the beach menu page, what does the plane's sign say?
#:a. Dansk! What's that staunch
#:b. eat at bubs'!
#:c. take your shirt off!
#:d. wear a bikini!
#Who did the Cheat dress up as for Halloween?
#:a. Garfield
#:b. [[Pikachu]]
#:c. Heathcliff
#:d. Nermal
#In the luau episode, how many glasses of melonade did Homestar say he drank?
#:a. thirty-two
#:b. twenty-two
#:c. forty-two
#:d. tooty-two
#Which of these songs does not appear on "Strong Bad Sings?"
#:a. The Ladies in My Town All Know My Name
#:b. You've got an Ugly and Stupid Butt
#:c. Why Must You Suck So Bad?
#:d. The Only Thing Wrong with You is Everything
#According to the tape he gives Coach Z, how many times does Strong Sad say "job?"
#:a. 194,285
#:b. 285,194
#:c. a million
#:d. 2,167
#Where in the world is the Hairstyle Runner maufactured?
#:a. Prance
#:b. Dortugal
#:c. Potamia
#:d. Bungary
#Why doesn't the Poopsmith talk?
#:a. The smell is too much
#:b. Creative differences
#:c. He thinks his voice sounds funny
#:d. He took a vow of silence
#Marzipan warns herself not to let Homestar eat any leftovers of what?
#:a. strudel
#:b. bon bons
#:c. tort
#:d. meringue

=== Answers ===

#c. Dokle II
#:Found in ''[[Theme Song Video]]''. [[HR:video.html|See the video]].
#b. Disco Tech
#:This is the only answer you cannot find anywhere in the current version of the site. As the question itself states, it should be found in [[Yearbook Character Page#Bubs|Bubs's biography]], but when the new [[Character Videos|Characters page]] was created they failed to include this vital piece of information in Bubs's new bio. The old bio is still accessible, but you have to know the URL since there aren't any links to it anywhere on the site. [[HR:yearbookb.html|See the page]].
#d. wear a bikini!
#:Found on ''[[Main Page 3]]'' when you hover over "Store". [[HR:main3.html|See the page]].
#a. Garfield
#:Found in ''[[Homestarloween Party]]''. [[HR:homestarloween.html|See the video]].
#a. thirty-two
#:Found in ''[[The Luau]]''. [[HR:luau2.html|See the video]].
#c. Why Must You Suck So Bad?
#:Found in ''[[Strong Bad Sings]]''. [[HR:sbsings.html|See the video]].
#b. 285,194
#:Found in ''[[A Jorb Well Done]]''. [[HR:cantsayjob.html|See the video]].
#a. Prance
#:Found in the [[Hairstyle Runner]] game. [[HR:hairgame.html|Play the game]].
#d. He took a vow of silence
#:Originally found in the [[Who Said What Now?]] game ''(accessible through the [[Handheld Games Menu]])''. [[HR:whosaidwhat.html|Play the game]]. It's also in [[The Poopsmith]]'s video biography on the [[Characters]] page. [[HR:vcr_poop.html|See the video]].
#a. strudel
#:Found in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]], message 4. [[HR:answer2.html|See the video]].

== Easter Eggs ==
* If you don't get a perfect score on the quiz, you can move the mouse over the name plate, microphone and "diploma" in Strong Bad's office and Strong Bad will say different things.
** Name plate:
**: '''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, keep your greasy fingers off that.
** Microphone:
**: '''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, don't touch that!
** Diploma:
**: '''STRONG BAD:''' Pretty impressive, huh? I bet you're pretty impressed.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Spirit duplicator|Ditto machines]] were once popular in schools for making copies, and these machines typically used purple ink. Copies made in a ditto machine also had a very strong, distinctive smell, which explains the page title.

===Trivia===
*If you right click and zoom in on Strong Bad's paper on his desk at the end, you can read what it says. It reads:
<blockquote>
''Strong Bad isn't so strong after all. If he tried hard, which of the following could he lift?'' 
 
'' '''a.''' an ounce'' '' '''c.''' a week'' 
'' '''b.''' a weak'' '' '''d.''' pepper''
</blockquote>
*This is the first appearance of [[cinnamon]].
*This is the first time an [[index card]] has appeared.

===Remarks===
*The sign on Strong Bad's desk is misspelled as "Prinicpal Strong Bad". This "mistake" appears again in [[CGNU]] and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], and has apparently been accepted as the spelling for Strong Bad's title.
*Both "Why Must You Suck So Bad?" and "The Only Thing Wrong With You Is Everything" do not appear on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], but only one is considered correct, because this quiz is referring to the [[Strong Bad Sings]] toon.
*If you get a perfect score, Strong Bad jogs the papers on the desk wearing his boxing gloves as normal. His hands move down behind the desk, and seconds later, without moving, he is seen wearing oven mitts.

===Goofs===
*[[Cinnamon]] is spelled incorrectly as "cinammon" on the recipe card.
*Manufactured is spelled incorrectly as "maufactured" on question number 8.

===Glitches===
*If you really are Strong Bad's kind of person, there's a glitch in the quiz that will allow you to cheat. Simply hold the mouse button down on an answer and it'll tell you if it's right or wrong. If you choose incorrectly, keep holding the mouse button and move your mouse away from the answers before you let go. It won't count it as an answer, so you can pick again. The red X that appears will remain, however.
*Very rarely, even if you don't get a perfect score, Strong Bad will stop in the middle of his line and start saying the "perfect score line".

===Inside References===
*The name [[Crazy Go Nuts University]] is a reference to the line "Things were just about to start getting [[Crazy Go Nuts|crazy-go-nuts]]" from [[The Luau]].
*The phrase "Dansk! What's that staunch?" is used in the song "[[Poot-Slap]]".
*The [[oven mitts]] Strong Bad wears when offering the cookies are the same he wore in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
*Strong Bad's voice going high at the end of his song may be a reference to when he does the same thing in his song "How Awesome I Am" in [[Strong Bad Sings]].
*On the paper below all of the question papers, the words "had", "than", and part of "problems" are visible. This is most likely a reference to [[Coach Z]] saying he has "more than 2 problems" in the [[Who Said What Now?]].
**If you view the source, then the following text is viewable, which when put in a proper order does imply this fun fact:
<pre>
If Homestar drank 18 glasses of melonade, if coach z really had bkbkbkbkbkkbmore than
hjhjhjhjhj b problems, hjhkhjkhjkhs does he have?</pre> You can also see a part of this to the right of the quiz.

*"You-know-what" is another, rarely used name for [[whatsit]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Clu Clu Land|Clu Clu Land]] and [[Wikipedia:Seicross|Seicross]] are [[Nintendo|NES]] games.

== External Links ==
* Take the [[HR:quiz.html|Quiz]]
* Take the [[HR:quiz.swf|Quiz (Flash file)]]

{{subtitlesLinks|quiz}}

[[Category: Games]]

User:Has Matt?/Homsar quotes

Bellstrom — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:15:08 GMT

Bellstrom: /* Other Users' Quotes */

Here is a list of made-up [[Homsar]] quotes compiled by various users, including myself. Feel free to add your own!

==My Original Quotes==
*"I'm an original Picasso!"
*"I'm a taco from the future!"
*"Look out! Here I come now!"
*"I live in a broken paddleball!"
*"Everyone's riding the bullet train!"
*"You're a great bargain buy!"
*"My mind is a lumberjack party house!"
*"The squeaky wheel eats the muffin."
*"I'm a traveling salesman!"
*"My slipper is a fourteen-foot field goal!"

==Other Users' Quotes==
'''Please add yours at the bottom.'''

*"popcorn is the latest fashion!" {{User: Seriously/sig}}
*"I shanked the titaniiiiiiiiiic"
*"Four score and seven pence ago." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"I came, I saw, I fried the bacon." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"All the world's on the back of a tortoise." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"Lucy, I got some 'splaining to do." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"I'm a man of quiet intensity." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"A fatal exception H*R has occurred." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"You can beat the heat with a pound of meat." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"Within my sock is a land of wonderment." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*"I'm a duck looking for a goat ride."
*"It's time to dance the Janger-Beetle."--{{User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia/sig}}
*"Mr. Anderson, I'd like to retract my statement." — {{User:Lapper/sig}}
*"I'm some assembly required." — {{User:Lapper/sig}}
*"Have you talked to the sofa today?" — {{User:Lapper/sig}}
*"I like to help the hamburger."
*"I'm the President of AaAaAaAaAaorange." [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry muffin]] 22:15, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
*"Please don't step on the daisies."
*"Me? The butcher? I'd be happy to incarcerate your petunias." {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}}
*i'ma go get some chocolate buns, lucy. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 17:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
*When I'm a 64 Elephant man! [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 00:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
*"Do you know the muffin man?" {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
*"The color of infinity inside ..." {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
*DaAaAaAaAaAaAaAbba dabba dooooooo! [[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]]
*"I'm a shipwrecked canolie!"-{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 03:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
*"So then we take the square root of x and apply it to the quadratic formula in order to further signify the anticlimax of this summation."-{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 03:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong Sad''': Why are you strapping Fireworks to me? '''Strong Bad''': Hey, shut up and hold Homsar. '''Homsar''' (seen picketed in the field): AouAH! Now my life has seen its burrito! (Is this breaking rules?) School Egg, 10:5 WST
*No. As for my quote, "Why must the book be later than a soda?" {{User: Seriously/sig}}
*"Why can't we all just get a dog?"
*"My saxophone fell in the drywall"
*"I rule the land of chocolate chip and pickle sandwiches"
*"The third world beckons the sock warriors!" SantamanBOOO! 7:14 EST
*"Is the man larger when he fills a poppy seed cap?" {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
*"That disrupts the pattern." {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
*"AaAaAaAaAaAa, I wish I still had a lungs!"
*"DaAaAaA, happy returns, Admiral!" --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 17:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
*AaAaAaAa, hiiiiii-de-ho, Anakin! Help yourself! These three are halfway backwards. --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 20:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
*"Here comes the princess of Rausten." [[User:Cara Carabowditbowdit|Cara Carabowditbowdit]] 15:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
*"Watch OoOout! The windsheild is my basketballlllllll" 17:07 12 April 2006 (UTC)
*You'rrre the pickled jeans of Dr.Smith!!
*"Yorrrrrrgy Shmorrrrrrrrrgy!"
*"If you divide the trajectory of the potato by the keyboard,you'll get the book summary." {{User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia/sig}}]] 00:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
*"AaAaAaAaAaA'hm the only one who can [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|count to purple backwards]], Cheerleader." --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
*"WaAaAaAaAaA! T'anks fer comin' Tito, but our potty's in anudder castle!"--Nicktendo 20X6
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaAaA! It's raining malted mothballs!" (Just kinda struck me one day as a rather Homsarish thing to say.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
*"This is not the hotdog sandwich." --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
*"I'm the newer Kenny Rodgers!"--{{User:Cool Tapes.exe/sig}}
*"I have a nasty aftertaste."--[[User:Scalawag|Scalawag]]
*"Rice isn't for the average dollar store." --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
*"AaAaAa guess I'll go blink off to bub's. Blllliiinnnk."
*"AaAaAa like pretty ponies!"
*"Ah'm the price of meatballs!" {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}}
*"AaAaAah'm the original no pants maahn... he stoled my champion to" {{User:Not an S/sig}}
*If Homsar had a line in [[looking old]]..."I'd like Bailey's moon-dwelling chameleon." (Meaning he'll get a bright maroon-colored iTem.) And as he says "-meleon," his white colors turn light blue, his blue shirt turns maroon, his red souls turn purple, and his bowler hat transforms into a propeller cap. (Homestar calls him "Homestar," right?) --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]
*"What's a question?" [[User:Whats a question?|Whats a question?]] 20:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
*"AaAaAa! I am one with the pancakes." --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
*"HahHahHah-Happy birthday, [[wikipedia:Peter André|Peter André]]!" --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
*"And that's the way the cookie crumbles." {{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}} 12:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
*"You took the words right out of my voOoOoOoOlcano." - [[User:Bishop|Bishop]]
*"I gotta hankering for some pancakering!" {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
*"UauAuAuA! I'ms the 18th century"--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 18:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
*That cheese is fifty-six!----[[User:slipknot6477|slipknot6477]]
*LoOoook OUT! THeRe a CoRn brEad in YouR panTs! [[User:The Magic Pixel|Pixelated Magic]] 00:44, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
*"Ohhhhh nooooo! I'm just a waffle ready to be eaten." [[User:JasonDeLima|JasonDeLima]] 01:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
*"This shoe is for the pizzas, by the pizzas." {{User:Mee/sig}} 15:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
*"Daaaaaaisyyyyyy, daaaaaaisyyyyyy, give me your answer doooooooooooo..." {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
*"AaAaAaAa! Byedy-bye monster man!!" --[[User:Sbmail xxx3|Sbmail xxx3]] 02:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC) 9:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
*"aAAAA can feel the magic!" --[[User:Sbmail xxx3|Sbmail xxx3]] 02:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC) 9:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
*"Lay that freakin' sad clowndog on the ground, parson!" {{User:Im a bell/sig}}

Strong Bad Main Page

Bellstrom — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:23:12 GMT

Bellstrom: undid revision 512646; The n00bness! It burns!!!!!!!

{{othermainnav|talky2|King of Town|Homsar}}
[[Image:sbmain.PNG|220px|thumb|TV, Atari, and Frampton. Yes.]]

The '''Strong Bad's Room Main Page''' is a hidden main page, found in the [[Homestar Talker]] game.

'''Page Title:''' "Homestar Talker"

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, A cockroach 

'''Place:''' [[Strong Bad's Room]]

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — "Oh, man, I hate this guy!" A dart will be thrown at a picture of [[Homestar Runner]]. You can add up to 5 darts by rolling over the button again.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — The game "[[Nighttime Driving Type Game|Night Driver]]" will play on the TV. "Oh, I love this game. I got a high score, man, fifty thousand! Try and beat that!"
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — A black light comes on and a clip from "Do You Feel Like We Do?" by [[Peter Frampton]] plays, while Strong Bad gushes, "Oh, check it out, this guy's guitar is totally talking!"
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — The stereo plays "[[Poot-Slap]]".
*'''[[Store]]''' — "Help yourself to those chips, man. I mean, they've been there since like [[The Cheat]]'s birthday party but..." A cockroach, possibly [[Gavin]], crawls out of the chip bag.
*'''[[Email]]''' — The unicorn poster peels back to reveal a poster of [[Wikipedia:Farrah Fawcett|Farrah Fawcett]]. "Why hello there, Buda Sita, you looking good tonight."

== Fun Facts ==

*The Unicorn blacklight poster is Funky Enterprises #939 "[http://www.allposters.com/View_HighZoomResPop.asp?apn=1314254&imgloc=13-1322-FVTO000Z.jpg&imgwidth=618&imgheight=970 Unicorn In Paradise]".
*The [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] is from the [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]] games. If you take his challenge and beat his score of fifty thousand on it you'll earn a secret video that refers to this main page:

:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you beat my high score, huh? Well, I just finished the game. Check it out! ''{Shows you the screen, his score is one point higher than yours.}'' Oh, tough luck. I guess it's back to the drawing board for you! Or, the, uh, Night Driving board, or uh.... Get out of my basement!

*The original "[[Nighttime Driving Type Game|Night Driver]]" game for the Atari 2600 is played with the paddles, not the joystick as pictured.
*"Do You Feel Like We Do?" is a 14-minute song from the classic album [[Wikipedia:Frampton_Comes_Alive!|''Frampton Comes Alive!'']] where by using a [[Wikipedia:Talk box|talk box]] Frampton would make his guitar "talk" (as Strong Bad pointed out).
*The Quotes, Weekly Fanstuff, and Sketchbook boxes appear slightly off-center, due to the black space on either side of the menu.
*When you mouse over the '''Toons''', '''Games''', and '''Characters''' buttons, Strong Bad's voice is the old voice. However, if you do that to the '''Store''' and '''Email''' buttons, he has his modern voice.
**If you beat his score of 50,000 in the Nighttime Driving Type Game, the secret video that follows also has Strong Bad in his modern voice.
*If you roll over the '''Store''' button, then wait about 10 seconds, you return to the Homestar Talker. This is stopped if you roll over any of the other buttons, except for '''Downloads'''.
*If you put the mouse over "Toons" several times in quick succession, some darts may freeze in mid-flight, or while wobbling. In this situation, putting the mouse over it again will move the frozen dart to another frozen position. Each subsequent dart is unaffected by what is done to a previous dart.
*When you roll over '''Characters''' and the black light comes down, the chips, darts, and poster of Homestar do not change color, except for Homestar's tongue.
*After Strong Bad says his line when you mouse over the '''Toons''', '''Games''', '''Characters''', and '''E-mail''' buttons, all the buttons (except for the buttons to the left, "SB" Museum link included) disappear briefly. This is particularly noticeable in the [[Main Page Messages]] alert oval, since the sequence of messages starts over.
*Clicking the [[H*R.com updates 2007#Monday, July 2, 2007|baby lady message]] that appeared from July 2, 2007 and onwards caused the message to appear behind both Strong Bad and the "Store" button.

== External Links ==
*Play [[HR:talky2.html|Homestar Talker]]
*Play [[HR:talky2.swf|Homestar Talker (Flash file)]]

{{Main Page}}

{{subtitlesLinks|talky2}}

[[Category:Main Pages]]

unnatural

Bellstrom — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:16:41 GMT

Bellstrom: undid revision 512611; Spinning, AND "Wheeeee"? definitely a reference.

{{sbenav|166}}
[[Image:Sbemail166.png|thumb|"It's a giant Bubs from outer space!"]]

Bubs has grown to 100 feet tall! How will the other characters deal with this decidedly unnatural disaster?

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}} ([[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]]), {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[The Field]], [[The Classroom]], [[The Island]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 5, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:10

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' I am Strong Bad, and I am not making an "I approve this email" joke.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: storms</div>
Hey Strongbad, 
 
'Sup, man? So I was just wonderin', does Strong Badia 
ever have natural disasters, like hurricanes 'n stuff?
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad enunciates "'Sup, man", "wonderin'", and "'n stuff" and reads the lack of a name as "From, Nobody".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dodges around}'' Hey! Whoa! Heh! Watch where you're flinging those apostrophes nobody. You could hurt somebody. You could hurt... yourself.

''{Strong Bad turns away from his Lappy as quiet music begins to play.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{speaking as if in a public service announcement}'' Hi. I'm regular Strong Bad. If you or someone you love is an anonymous apostrophe flinger, please call our hot-free number. ''{waves his hand as 1-800-APOSTROHOLIC appears in yellow lettering}'' Or give them a charley horse right away.

''{Strong Bad turns back to his computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' As for H.R. Hurricanesnstuf, we've dealt with disasters, but mainly those of a decidedly UNnatural s-s-s-sort.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat having a tea party in Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and that's when I tampered with the DNA evidence!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{The ground shakes as the table bounces and the dishes clatter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! ''{a second shake}'' What the—

''{Cut to a long shot as the ground bounces a third time.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh-oh. The King of Town must be getting a mega-physical.

''{An enormous gray foot crashes down from the sky, destroying a section of the fence and sending everything flying.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' WHA!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' ''{very startled The Cheat noises}''

''{Japanese music plays as a pan upwards reveals the giant to be Bubs, dubbed "King Bubsgonzola Supreme".}''

'''SINGERS:''' King Bubsgonzola! King- King Bubsgonzola, Supreme!

'''BUBS:''' ''{roars}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{terrified, as the camera zooms in}'' It's a giant Bubs from outer space! ''{the camera jumps back and starts zooming in again}'' Or... mutated by radiation! ''{the camera jumps back and starts zooming in yet again}'' Or... from the depths of the ocean! ''{the camera jumps back and starts zooming in one more time}'' Or... flushed down the toilet!

''{Homestar appears a few feet from Bubs's giant foot.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh my crap! Bubs turned us all into ants! That fortune cookie knew what he was talking about! C'mon, everyone. Let's go steal a slice of chocolate cake from that picnic table over there.

''{As Homestar is about to run, we wipe to a silhouette of Bubs as the background flashes orange with every crushing step as he stomps to The King of Town's castle. Japanese music is heard. Bubs roars.}''

''{Cut to The King of Town sitting at a table with a few bites taken out of it as the ceiling of the castle begins to fall.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh! Whoo! What am I, getting my mega-physical?

''{Transition to Marzipan and Strong Sad at a "Free Art Classes for Losers" seminar. Marzipan has painted a picture of a big apple and a tree, while Strong Sad has painted a yellow bar with the word "Death" on it. Asian music and Bubs's footsteps can be heard in the background.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' See? The apple's not giant. It's just in the foreground.

''{Bubs's giant foot crashes away the sign and Strong Sad's painting as Strong Sad runs away screaming.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{roars}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{unfazed}'' See? Bubs' foot isn't giant. It's just in the foreground.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at his computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Things were looking grim, so we called an emergency town meeting. We needed an organized forum for people to shout out their ideas all at the same time!

''{Cut to a slow pan of characters at a Town Meeting.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I think we should kill it! I think we should kill it!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' We must try and understand this creature! We must try and understand this creature!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{overlapping}'' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{overlapping}'' I say we try to run the picket fence at him. A box in one!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' It's just in the foreground! People, it's just in the foreground!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{inexplicably passing by again}'' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{overlapping}'' We must protect the queen! I have six legs!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastic}'' So of course, the nerdy scientist-type had it all figured out.

''{Cut to Strong Sad standing next to a chalkboard and a [[booOOMbox|boombox]].}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I knew we had to try and understand this poor creature. So I recorded his roars and played them back at high-speed. Listen to my extremely scientific findings! ''{presses play}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{roaring}''

''{Strong Sad presses fast-forward.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{slightly faster roar}''

''{Strong Sad presses fast-forward.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{slightly faster, semi-coherent}'' Chicken wings!

''{Strong Sad presses fast-forward}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{in normal tone}'' Don't eat my chicken wings!

''{Strong Sad presses stop.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Something in Bubs' chicken wings must have caused him to mutate and he's been trying to warn us all alon—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Cut to the chase. How do we kill it?

'''STRONG SAD:''' We don't. I was able to mix-up an anti-chicken-wing... which is really just a bowl of Kashi. ''{he holds up said bowl}'' It's the culinary opposite of chicken wings.

''{Drums play during a pan to the chalkboard, then the chalkboard fades into reality as silhouettes of Coach Z with a catapult, The Cheat, Marzipan, Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and giant Bubs stand at the ready. Coach Z lets fly the catapult of Kashi. Bubs can be heard swallowing it.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{roars as he suddenly shrinks back to normal size}'' ...don't eat my chicken wings!

'''STRONG SAD:''' We know! The chicken wings will make us grow a hundred feet tall!

'''BUBS:''' No they won't!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then why didn't you want us to eat your chicken wings?

'''BUBS:''' 'Cause they mine! And they good!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Then how did you grow a hundred feet tall?

'''BUBS:''' Oh, that. Well, it's kind of embarrassing, but I accidentally flushed myself down the toilet while I was shaving.

'''STRONG BAD:''' You have to shave?

'''COACH Z:''' ''{leaning in}'' You have a terlet?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{running up holding a bitten leaf above his head}'' C'mon, you guys! Let's all go jump in somebody's pants! Everybody, single file! ''{drops leaf and marches away}'' Hup-two-three-four!...

'''BUBS:''' Well, I better mosey on. ''{Fade cut through black to a beach that looks a lot like [[The Island]].}''

''{Japanese music plays as Bubs walks out to sea.}''

'''SINGERS:''' King Bubsgonzola! King-King Bubsgonzola, Supreme!

''{A Japanese symbol in gold appears as the screen fades to black. Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{heartily}'' But Strong Badinians ''{he has some difficulty pronouncing this}'' are a strong people. We will recover. We will rebuild. We will reduce, reuse, recycle!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After a while, Strong Bad says the following.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We will be kind. We will rewind!

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Nohito.PNG|thumb|Huge in Japan]]
* Click on H.R. Hurricanesnstuff (prior to the cutaway to Strong Badia) to see a poster for "The Perfectly Baffling World of H.R. Hurricanesnstuff", featuring a variant of the Homestar Puppet resembling H.R. Pufnstuf.
* Click on Homestar's star after he mentions the fortune cookie to see what it said.
<div style="border:1px solid black; background:white; padding:6px; margin:6px 4em; width:16em">Bubs gonna turn you ALL into ants!</div>
* At the end, click on "reduce" to see Strong Bad trying to flush himself down the toilet.
*:''{Strong Bad spins around in the toilet, grinning, while The Cheat watches. It stops}''
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' Try it again. I think I'm starting to mutate.
*:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Affirmative The Cheat noises}''
*:''{The Cheat flushes the toilet}''
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' Wheeeeee!
* At the end, click on "reuse" to see a poster of King Bubsgonzola Supreme.
* At the end, click on "recycle" to see Marzipan making Strong Bad recycle.
*:''{Marzipan and Strong Bad are standing in a field. A recycling box is next to Marzipan.}''
*:'''MARZIPAN:''' No, I heard you say it!
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' Marzipan, I was just saying other things that start with R-E.
*:'''MARZIPAN:''' I don't care. You said it. Now let me see your cans.
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' What!?


==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*Strong Bad's [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaking of the fourth wall]] is likely in reference to [[Wikipedia:very special episode|very special episodes]], wherein an actor from the TV show will speak directly to the audience at the end of the episode.
*The idea of mutating after being flushed down a toilet is a reference to animals mutating in sewers, an urban myth popularized in science fiction.
*Coach Z suggests sports defensive plays, "[[Wikipedia: Box-and-one defense|box-and-one]]" and the picket fence. The picket fence is used in many different sports and denotes three or more people in a line defending.
*"1-800-APOSTROHOLIC" refers to addiction centers such as those that help people with [[Wikipedia: alcoholism|alcoholism]].
*Homestar's suggestion for everyone to "go jump in somebody's [[pants]]" is a reference to the expression "[[Wikipedia:Ants in the Pants|ants in the pants]]", used to describe someone who is restless or anxious.
*When discussing the apple in her painting, Marzipan is referring to the technique called [[Wikipedia:Perspective (graphical)#Foreshortening|foreshortening]], where objects in the foreground appear larger than similarly-sized objects in the background.
*A [[Wikipedia:Charley horse|Charley horse]] is a term used to describe a contusion or bruising of the quadricep muscles, most commonly caused by a sudden impact to the anterior thigh.

===Trivia===
*Bubs's roars are really his line "Don't eat my chicken wings!" [[Wikipedia:Audio timescale-pitch modification|pitch shifted]] down 2 octaves.
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#dune 2|dune 2]]".
*The line "We will be kind. We will rewind." was added shortly after the email was released.
*When the email was first released, Marzipan's recycle bucket was empty. Cold Ones and Coldson Lite cans were later put inside it.
*Marzipan's recycling bin has a design on the side that consists of several arrows making a star shape. The universally recognized [[Wikipedia:Recycling symbol|recycling symbol]] commonly found on recycling bins has a similar design where three arrows form a triangular [[Wikipedia:Möbius strip|Möbius strip]].
*This is the first time we see Strong Bad's [[toilet]].
*This email contains [[Strong Bad Smiling]].

===Remarks===
[[Image:twin_cheats.png|thumb|Two The Cheats!?]]
*In the scene with everyone talking in the meeting, as the camera pans to the right, [[Twin Characters|two The Cheats]] are seen, and are briefly on the screen at the same time.
*The "reduce" and "recycle" Easter eggs stated above do not work while Strong Bad is saying "We will be kind. We will rewind!". This is probably to accommodate the Easter eggs, which jump back to when they were clicked.
*The music during the apostrophe public service announcement is taken from [[CGNU]].
*Strong Sad's recording of Bubsgonzola's voice is labeled "Bubsgonzola: The Demos".
*The plan to shrink Bubs back to normal was dependent on Bubs's growth being due to something being wrong with his chicken wings. If we accept Strong Sad's logic for his plan, then it shouldn't have worked given that Bubs's growth had a different cause (i.e. he had flushed himself down the toilet).
*Strong Sad [[Hammerspace|produces the bowl of Kashi out of nowhere]]; he just reaches off-screen and the bowl appears in his hand.
*The tank in Strong Bad's toilet must refill extremely quickly, given that The Cheat could flush again almost immediately.
*The Japanese symbol when Bubs walks into the water resembles "[[Image:edge.jp.png|20px|端]]", which can mean "end" (however, this character means the end of a physical object like a street, or an edge; end in the sense intended here should be "[[Image:end.jp.png|20px|終]]" or "[[Image:finish.jp.png|20px|完]]").
*The Japanese on the King Bubsgonzola Supreme poster reads "[[Image:concession.jp.png|82px|譲歩の人]]" ''Jōho no Hito'', roughly meaning "person of concession" (though the meaning of "concession" is not that of "Concession Stand", rather a synonym for "compromise"). A better translation would be "[[Image:Baiten no Hito.png|82px|売店の人]]" ''Baiten no Hito''.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad types "Watch where you're flinging those apostrophes nobody" he forgets to put a comma between "apostrophes" and "nobody."
*After the apostroholic public service announcement, the words "could hurt...yourself" disappear off the screen; then "hurt...yourself" reappears, but the "could" is gone. As the screen pages down, the "c" in "could" can be seen briefly.
*Strong Bad appears to insert an extra space in between the comma after "Hurricanesnstuf" and "we've."
*Throughout the email, Marzipan's dress has one button which is not shiny like the others.
*The red circle on the record button on Strong Sad's tape player disappears when the play button is depressed, and reappears once the recording stops.
*The tape in the boombox is playing while moving from right to left when it can only play when moving from left to right.

===Inside References===
[[Image:unnatural tea party.png|thumb|One lump or two?]]
*Marzipan mentioned [[DNA evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence]] being tampered with while at a tea party with [[Homsar]] in the previous email, [[strong badathlon]].
**The table and tea set from that scene are reused in a [[Wikipedia:Palette swap|palette swapped]] version for this email.
*The fortune cookie Easter egg is in the style of the old [[Fortune Cookies]] game.
**Before the paper is fully unfolded, it also says other things, like the [[Fortune Cookies#Trivia|original]].
*Strong Bad also asked Homestar if ''he'' had to shave in [[caper]].
*Strong Sad's painting has the word "[[Death]]" written on it.
*The "free art classes for losers." sign is a reference to the "free concert for birds" sign from [[marzipan]], and the similar "free concert" sign from [[Seasonal Sweaters]].
*Marzipan teaching painting is also a reference to [[Joy of Painting]], where Marzipan (albeit with an afro and beard) paints a landscape.
*The King of Town appears to be [[Eating Non-Food Items|eating his table]]. Similarly, the leaf that Homestar carries appears to have bite marks taken out of it.
*The way strong bad says "wheee" while spinning in the toilet is a reference to Teen Girl Squad #10.

===Real-World References===
*"I am Strong Bad, and I am not making an '[[Wikipedia:I approve this message|I approve this email]]' joke" is a reference to American political campaign advertising. Candidates are required by law to state their name and approval of the ad.
*King Bubsgonzola Supreme is a reference to [[Wikipedia:kaiju|kaiju]] monsters such as [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]], [[Wikipedia:King Ghidorah|King Ghidorah]], and [[Wikipedia:Mothra|Mothra]]. The "King" in his name might allude to King Ghidorah or [[Wikipedia:King Kong|King Kong]].
** Furthermore, the methods that Strong Bad suggests how King Bubsgonzola Supreme got big are common plot devices in kaiju films.
** The scene in which King Bubsgonzola Supreme makes his entrance and the theme music plays as well as the end scene are references to [[Wikipedia:The_Godzilla_Power_Hour|The Godzilla Power Hour]].
**The scene with Bubs going into the water and the Japanese symbol is a reference to Godzilla movies, some of which contain a similar sequence (usually at the end of the story) in which Godzilla slowly makes his way back out to sea after wreaking havoc or defeating an enemy.
**Strong Sad's idea of playing Bubs's roars backwards at high speed is a reference to the original ''[[Wikipedia:King Kong (1933 film)|King Kong]]'' in which King Kong's roars were actually lions' roars played backwards at half speed.
*H.R. Hurricanesnstuff is a reference to [[Wikipedia:H.R._Pufnstuf|H.R. Pufnstuf]], an infamously surreal kids' show with a brightly colored dragon as the star which began running in 1969.
*[[Wikipedia:Kashi_Company|Kashi]] is a natural foods producer owned By Kellogg's, Inc. It is also the name used to market the company's proprietary combination of 7 whole grains and sesame which appears in the bowl.
*Strong Bad's line "[[Wikipedia:Cut to the chase|Cut to the chase]]. How do we [[Death|kill]] it?" is taken from the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Hellboy (film)|Hellboy]]''.
*The drumbeats occurring when Bubsgonzola arrives, and when Bubs is leaving in the final two scenes, are taken from [[Wikipedia:Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings|Age of Empires II]].
*Coach Z's suggestion for dealing with the monster by "running the Picket Fence at him" is a reference to a line in the film ''[[Wikipedia:Hoosiers|Hoosiers]]'', originally delivered by Dennis Hopper.
*[[Wikipedia:Reduce, Reuse, Recycle|Reduce, Reuse, Recycle]] is a slogan used by conservationists to encourage consumers to save resources.
*"We will be kind. We will rewind" is a reference to "Be kind, please rewind", a slogan once commonly used by video rental stores (such as [[Wikipedia:Blockbuster Inc.|Blockbuster]]) to remind the customer to rewind [[Wikipedia:videotape|VHS tapes]] prior to returning them.
*The sound and shot of Bubs shrinking is a reference to the arcade game [[Wikipedia:Rampage (arcade game)|Rampage]].

===Fast Forward===
*The King Bubsgonzola Supreme poster will make a return appearance in [[the movies]].
*The DNA scene would be revisited in the big toon [[DNA Evidence]], where it is revealed Strong Bad's role in tampering the DNA evidence was simply he prompted Bubs to tamper it.

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[[Halloween Costumes|Costumes]] that the characters wore in [[Jibblies 2]], Halloween 2007.

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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 Strong Mad.PNG]] || [[Strong Mad]] || Nikolai Volkov || Nikolai Volkoff (born Josip Peruzović) is a professional wrestler in the [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Federation|WWF]]. Although he is portrayed as a Russian, he was born in Croatia. He is perhaps best known for playing a Communist villain in the height of the Cold War. In the early '70s, he was managed by [[Wikipedia:Lou Albano|Captain Lou Albano]]. || [[Wikipedia:Nikolai Volkoff|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 The Stick.PNG]] || [[The Stick]] || Lowly Worm || Lowly Worm is a character from [[Wikipedia:Richard Scarry|Richard Scarry]]'s series of children books set in the world of [[Wikipedia:Busytown|Busytown]]. Although rarely mentioned in the text, Lowly Worm would often make cameo appearances in the illustrations. || [[Wikipedia:Busytown|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 The Cheat.PNG]] || [[The Cheat]] || Penfold || Penfold is a character on the British animated television series ''[[Wikipedia:DangerMouse|DangerMouse]]''. Voiced by by Terry Scott, Penfold is a hamster who is a sidekick to DangerMouse. || [[Wikipedia:Penfold|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 Strong Bad.PNG]] || [[Strong Bad]] || Beetlejuice || Beetlejuice is the titular character of the [[Wikipedia:Tim Burton|Tim Burton]] comedy film ''[[Wikipedia:Beetlejuice|Beetlejuice]]''. Played by [[Wikipedia:Michael Keaton|Michael Keaton]], Beetlejuice is a "bio-exorcist" who is hired by two ghosts to scare a yuppie family away from their house. || [[Wikipedia:Beetlejuice|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 Marzipan.PNG]] || [[Marzipan]] || Prince || Prince is an American musician whose music has spanned many genres including from funk, R&B, and soul. He pioneered the style of music known as the [[Wikipedia:Minneapolis sound|Minneapolis sound]]. A name change to an unpronounceable symbol in 1993 prompted many in the media to dub him "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince". || [[Wikipedia:Prince (musician)|Wikipedia Article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 Homestar.PNG]] || [[Homestar Runner]] || Artie, The Strongest Man in the World || Artie, the Strongest Man in the World, played by [[Wikipedia:Toby Huss|Toby Huss]], was an eccentric character on the TV show ''[[Wikipedia:The Adventures of Pete and Pete|The Adventures of Pete and Pete]]''. He was the "personal superhero" of Little Pete Wrigley. He left the show after the second season. || [[Wikipedia:Artie, the Strongest Man in the World|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 Homsar.PNG]] || [[Homsar]] || "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy || One of the recurring segments in the educational children's show ''[[Wikipedia:Sesame Street|Sesame Street]]'' featured an animated typewriter who would type a letter of the alphabet, followed by a word beginning with that letter. The typewriter would wheel himself into the scene while humming "Noony noony noo" to himself. || [[Wikipedia:Ed Grimley|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 Bubs.PNG]] || [[Bubs]] || Ross || Ross was the stage manager of the Canadian childrens' show ''You Can't Do That On Television'', played by actor Les Lye. || [[Wikipedia:You Can't Do That On Television|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 Strong Sad.PNG]] || [[Strong Sad]] || The Fat Kid || The Fat Kid was one of the many unnamed stock characters that regularly appeared in Gary Larson's comic strip ''The Far Side''. || [[Wikipedia:The Far Side|Wikipedia article]]
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||| [[Pom Pom]] || Cacodaemon || One of the demonic enemy creatures from the ground-breaking first-person shooter video game ''Doom''. || [[Wikipedia:Doom (video game)|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 KOT.PNG]] || [[The King of Town]] || Rev. Al Sharpton || An African-American politician, minister and activist. || [[Wikipedia:Al Sharpton|Wikipedia article]]
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| [[Image:Halloween 2007 The Poopsmith.PNG]] || [[The Poopsmith]] || Doc Brown || Emmett "Doc" Brown is one of the protagonists in the ''Back to the Future'' film triolgy. The Poopsmith is wearing his outfit from the year 2015 here. || [[Wikipedia:Back to the Future|Wikipedia article]]
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== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..
:Carl's Jr? Uhh... I wanna cll that the Aqua Teen Hungerforce virus... {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 18:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Uhh... -0 makes sense. If the level is essentially all glitches, it should be a glitched (impossible) number... {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 18:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

:why would/how did coach Z get a castle?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::This isn't Coach Z, it's [[20X6 Coach Z]]. They're different. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

:very odd.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}
:elskerby is simple once you figure out how the timing works. just keep trying, there's a 1 up at the begining of .2 anyway to ensure having 4 goes in a row.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:44, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

Bellstrom — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:20:50 GMT

Bellstrom: /* what the crap? */

== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..
:Carl's Jr? Uhh... I wanna cll that the Aqua Teen Hungerforce virus... {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 18:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

:why would/how did coach Z get a castle?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::This isn't Coach Z, it's [[20X6 Coach Z]]. They're different. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

:very odd.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}
:elskerby is simple once you figure out how the timing works. just keep trying, there's a 1 up at the begining of .2 anyway to ensure having 4 goes in a row.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:44, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)