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Talk:Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?

Cheddarlebbon — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:35:38 GMT

Cheddarlebbon: /* Genius! */

== Shrinky Hat ==

If you watch closely, Homsar's hat shrinks while he's saying that he's a trendy totebag. The only other time I've seen it change was in his character video.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:Odd... I don't see any shrinking. But... maybe thats just me. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:45, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::It is just you. Right on the word "trendy," it gets real big for one frame and then smaller than usual for one frame, then back to normal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:31, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
===Fly like a... something===
{{stufffact|The "raspberry noises" Homsar makes when he moves resembles the noises the "Boobahs" make when they fly in the show of the same name.}}
{{stuffverdict|08:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)|19:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|14|0|Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?}}

== Real Estate ==

Homsar speaks in metaphors. He doesn't actually think that the letter "G" is a "healthy peice of real estate", rather he was saying that it was a nice letter.

== Tote vs Tote ==

I checked [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=tote%20bag dictionary.com] and the correct spelling is "tote bag" and not "totebag". The [[Store_Front_Page_News_2005#October_2.2C_2005|store]] page and [[for_kids|for kids]] have it spelled correctly. I will fix those entries I've found through this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=totebag search] except those in talk pages. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
:Done. On another note: my edit comment originally read <code><nowiki>"totebag" -> "tote bag", see [[Talk:Whaddaya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F#Tote_vs_Tote|talk]].</nowiki></code> but the link did not work. Normally they do. Was it the pound sign (#)? This edit should have a test: <code><nowiki>[[for kids|test]]</nowiki></code>. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:35, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar has a tongue? ==

A strip of bacon as a tongue, in fact. lol [[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 02:16, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Genius! ==

Man, that email learned me many cool things with that show!
I had no idea the letter G was a healthy piece of real estate! I hope there's a sequal! [[User:Cheddarlebbon|Cheddarlebbon]]

Talk:Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?

Cheddarlebbon — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:35:07 GMT

Cheddarlebbon: Genius!

== Shrinky Hat ==

If you watch closely, Homsar's hat shrinks while he's saying that he's a trendy totebag. The only other time I've seen it change was in his character video.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:Odd... I don't see any shrinking. But... maybe thats just me. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:45, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::It is just you. Right on the word "trendy," it gets real big for one frame and then smaller than usual for one frame, then back to normal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:31, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
===Fly like a... something===
{{stufffact|The "raspberry noises" Homsar makes when he moves resembles the noises the "Boobahs" make when they fly in the show of the same name.}}
{{stuffverdict|08:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)|19:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|14|0|Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?}}

== Real Estate ==

Homsar speaks in metaphors. He doesn't actually think that the letter "G" is a "healthy peice of real estate", rather he was saying that it was a nice letter.

== Tote vs Tote ==

I checked [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=tote%20bag dictionary.com] and the correct spelling is "tote bag" and not "totebag". The [[Store_Front_Page_News_2005#October_2.2C_2005|store]] page and [[for_kids|for kids]] have it spelled correctly. I will fix those entries I've found through this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=totebag search] except those in talk pages. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
:Done. On another note: my edit comment originally read <code><nowiki>"totebag" -> "tote bag", see [[Talk:Whaddaya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F#Tote_vs_Tote|talk]].</nowiki></code> but the link did not work. Normally they do. Was it the pound sign (#)? This edit should have a test: <code><nowiki>[[for kids|test]]</nowiki></code>. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:35, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar has a tongue? ==

A strip of bacon as a tongue, in fact. lol [[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 02:16, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Genius! ==

Man, that email learned me many cool things with that show!
I had no idea the letter G was a healthy piece of real estate! I hope they'res a sequal! [[User:Cheddarlebbon|Cheddarlebbon]]

User talk:Cheddarlebbon

Cheddarlebbon — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:21:58 GMT

Cheddarlebbon: /* One more chance? */

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==Footnotes==

I noticed you tried to delete the footnote. Those have to be there to please everyone. If it was up to me, I'd just pick "Wow" or "Whoa", but since it's not certain one way or another, it has to be noted that it's debatable. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

== KOT Super DVD ==

Please do not add this again. It has been added to the [[In Search of the Yello Dello DVD]] main page. Thanks. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:00, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== I'm Awesome ==

Listen, alot of people do not like me, but do not let them bring me down. I rock, sereiously.
:Um......okay...... {{User:Seriously/sig}} 20:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Quote of the Week ==

Stop adding the entire song from [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] after its been reverted. Read the peoples edit summarys and you'll see why they are getting reverted. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 20:59, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I'll stop trying to help Wikipedia, because I won't be SPAMMED anymore. If you ever need help from members, I'll just hang around the wiki, but I'm not helping if I'm not appreciated, because Wiki owes me.

(Cheddarlebbon)
The wiki owes you nothing. you are wrong, and that's that. you are not getting "spammed", you are getting constructive criticism. And it's the Hrwiki, not Wikipedia. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, you're going to ruin my repuatation.
(Cheddarlebbon)
:'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' Hey listen I'm not saying your not appreciated its just that you edit was reverted so you shouldn't keep putting it back up. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 21:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, well... is there anyway to delete these complaints? Also, it's shouldn't, not shoudn'y.
(Cheddarlebbon)

:All right, everyone, let's all remember to be civil. Cheddarlebbon, the reason that was being removed is that we only show what was in the QotW box on the official site. To erase this whole conversation, just click edit over on the right there and blank the window. And here's a handy tip: to sign your name, just type four tildes, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, and it will put in your name, like this: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:Please don't fire heated comments at each other. There's a better way to handle this. First of all, Cheddarlebbon, sometimes other users give you helpful hints and constructive critisism. This is not spamming. Second, if you don't like being told that what you're currently doing is incorrect, you could watch [[Special:Recentchanges]] to see if and why your edits are being reverted. If other users are trying to constantly revert your edits, they may get a little angry. Miscommunication can often be avoided by watching Recentchanges. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Sorry Cheddarlebbon, and I am only 13, so I do make spelling mistakes every once and a while. Sorry for the misunderstanding. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 21:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Different Town song ==

We already have all the lyrics in [[different town]]. We only make separate pages for songs that exist as music videos or CD tracks. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:20, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Well, you have made me very mad! I just worked very hard, and you mess it all up! [[User:Cheddarlebbon|Cheddarlebbon]]
::I'm sorry you feel that way, but as I previously said, we already have all of the lyrics. I'm just following the standards. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Fine, Cheddarlebbon, state your case [[Talk:different town lyrics|here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:23, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, though I really don't feel it should be deleted
[[User:Cheddarlebbon|Cheddarlebbon]]

Stop making it --{{User:The thing/sig}} 21:08, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

== Um.....Please? ==
I want to ask in the politest way possible for you to stop trolling pages such as Old-Timey Marzipan. I know I shouldn't be the one to say this, bu I'm kinda getting annoyed at it. Thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Cheddarlebbon

Cheddarlebbon — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:20:00 GMT

Cheddarlebbon: One more chance?

Talk:King Castlefunny Pencil Moistener

Cheddarlebbon — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:38:54 GMT

Cheddarlebbon: The Purpoes

== The Purpoes ==

What is the artistic purpoes is the Pencil Moistener for?
If it's moisened, wouldn't that ruin the paper or ink? [[User:Cheddarlebbon|Cheddarlebbon]]

Old-Timey Marzipan

Cheddarlebbon — Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:41:41 GMT

Cheddarlebbon:

[[Image:marzipan1936.PNG|thumb|140px|"Let's make soup!"]]
'''Old-Timey Marzipan''' is the [[Old-Timey]] version of [[Marzipan]]. She differs slightly in appearance and affect from the current Marzipan.

Visually, the Old-Timey Marzipan is almost identical to the current version, with only a few changes: she has pigtails instead of a ponytail, her face is shorter, wider, and shaped less like a baseball bat, and her smile is bigger, less curved, and more angular. She also has a visible chin, which only a few characters have. Finally, her skirt has a less realistic design.

Unlike modern day Marzipan's on-again, off-again relationship with [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], Old-Timey Marzipan is an inseparable companion of [[The Homestar Runner]] and his friend [[Fat Dudley]]. Moreover, she is significantly less concerned with social causes and more concerned with eating. It is unknown if she and The Homestar Runner are dating as they do in the modern world, but we're too tired to find out.

==Fun Facts==
*Although [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyards]] don't scare her, she has an unusual fear of [[Punkin Patch|punkins]].
*Similar to [[Old-Timey Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad's]] moustache having bones, her ponytails and skirt have a skeletal system.
*Apparently, she's not a vegetarian as the modern Marzipan is, as she gazes wistfully at the remains of some poultry at the beginning of [[That a Ghost]].

==Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]]
*[[:Category:Old-Timey Marzipan Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

[[Category:Old-Timey Characters|Marzipan, Old-Timey]]

Cheddarlebbon — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:44:00 GMT

HRWiki talk:FAQ

Cheddarlebbon — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:12:21 GMT

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== PNG??? ==

I really wish I could contribute images, but I can't save in PNG! where can I get a PNG saver???--{{User:Benol/sig}} 13:11, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

:Most programs allow you to save in PNG format. Do you have microsoft paint? It's a simple program, but that's the one I find myself usually using. Once you have the image you want in the paint program, press file, save, then when you get to the box where you type in the file name you want it saved as, you'll notice right below that you have a box labled "Save as type", with the default option usually being 24-bit bitmap. Open that drop down box, and one of the options, (probably the very last one) will be "PNG". Save as that, and it all comes out looking PNGful. Let me know if that doesn't work for you. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 13:55, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

::On mine it only has BMP, JPG, and GIF.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::You get PNG only if you're using Windows XP. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 12:58, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::::Benol, I use a free program called [http://www.irfanview.com/ Irfanview] to save my pics as PNGs. You can also add cool effects on pictures. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:21, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::Heh. Sorry 'bout that. I figured it was a more common format. Yea, irfanview looks okie dokie. I gotta update my program anyways, MS paint isn't known for being a master program of photo editing and the like. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:22, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::For the record, Irfanview rocks my world. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

==image problems==
:Whenever I try to upload an image, it always says "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again." I'm doing everything correct; the file ''always'' ends in .png or .PNG, but for some reason it never works! I seem to be having the same problem that Benol has. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
It also happens to me. {{User:Tampo/sig}}
::Could it be a Mac (pre OS X) incompatibility thing? Seems strange. I dunno. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Seeing as I have Mac OS X, I don't think so. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:17, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm. Well, there goes ''that'' idea. That's what I get for ''assuming'' that you're running OS 9 or something. Might have something to do with the problems you've been having staying connected on IRC. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Are there any programs on Mac that will save something as a PNG? (Like Microsoft paint, except thats for windows). {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 17:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::[http://www.imagemagick.org/script/binary-releases.php Image Magick] i'm pretty sure should have PNG support. And it has Mac OS X binaries! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:51, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Great, thanks! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 17:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== Not Of Tense Verbs ==

I'm curious, how much do you think we should use the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Scrolling_Shooter_Games_Menu&diff=210280&oldid=194156 second person] in the articles? I have always been taught that professional writing should avoid using the 2nd person (or at least i think i did somewhere). But I also know this wiki is ''slightly'' more personal than that. ''Being Impersonal in MI,''--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:I think we should avoid second-person where possible. (P.S. For those forgetting their persons, second person is when the writer addresses the reader.) — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 17:41, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

::And while we're on the subject, we might as well drop the first-person as well. ([http://www.google.com/search?&q=site%3Ahrwiki.org+%22we+see], for example)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh wow. Sounds like a job for grape-nuts, should he ever get back in business. We see ---> There is shown, or something. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:06, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

::::It may not be that easy, as changing everything around may leave some non-sensical results. This will require raw manpower. (And of course ladypower too!) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::Yeah, either/or I guess. I think "there is shown" would technically work, but I think better results would be acquired if it was done by hand, yeah. Just follow the google list Tom provided, updating it after every couple of changes, until they're all done. I'm not up for that now though, I'm busy watching [[Wikipedia:Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005 film)|a movie]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

::::::Before we go on with this, I want to suggest that we find something besides "There is shown" to replace "We see". It's not very good style to use the passive voice without excellent reason. Personally, I'm not sure what's so bad about "we see", and given the choice between it and the passive voice, I would consider "we see" to be the lesser of two evils. But maybe we can think of something else that's better than either one. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::::I often replace the "we see" with "one sees" when i gotta do technical writing. Would something like that work? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:35, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Or perhaps another option (following [[User:Heimstern Läufer|mein Führer]]'s suggestion); since we're not using a bot anyways, perhaps change it on a case to case basis - often flipping it around. For one instance of this, perhaps change (from [[modeling]]):

:::::::<blockquote>
:::::::...we see a closeup of Strong Bad in the same outfit, now holding a tennis racket.
:::::::</blockquote>
::::::::to...
:::::::<blockquote>
:::::::...a closeup of Strong Bad in the same outfit is shown, now holding a tennis racket.
:::::::</blockquote>
::::::::I'll check back later; my movie's over, and I've moved on to [[Wikipedia:Stargate SG-1|another show]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::::'''ABDIVIKLAS:''' ''{vomits}'' Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh! ''{suddenly sotto voce}'' No. (Sorry; I don't want that to be insulting; I simply wanted a chance to use that quote!) The vast majority of these problems can be resolved with active verbs and camera-direction conventions, e.g.: "'''Cut to''' a closeup of...". Also "pan to reveal," etc. I can't think off the top of my head of any needs this couldn't be manipulated to cover. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:21, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::That sounds like a great way to do it. Oh, and Stux, concerning the "one sees" method: that works very well in German. It sometimes works well in English, sometimes not. But I think Abdi's suggestion will cover it here. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:27, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I think that we should just change it to whatever is in 3rd person, but still makes sense. It would be repetative to have every time "one sees". Or, we could just leave that part out all together. A-like so:

*Before: We see Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad slowly rise up from behind it.
*After: Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad slowly rises up from behind it.
--{{User:Salty/sig}} 05:41, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:All this technical english language nuance discussion is getting beyond me. I'm sure what you guys come up with will work just fine. Although I don't think Lappy 48- I mean ''Salty's'' solution will work in all cases. Even in my earlier blockquoted example, I think just getting rid of "we see" without replacing it with any text would look a bit out of place. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Not in all cases but it might work in some. Perhaps if we had a list of different kinds of examples (where each would be treated differently) along with their appropriate rephrasings? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 12:21, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:::There is ''nothing necessarily wrong'' with using second person. It's a style choice, pure and simple. That is to say, if when ''you'' are writing ''you'' find second person to be the most natural, then there is no reason to resort to awkward constructions just to avoid it. I'm not saying that the sentences in question couldn't be recast to avoid the issue altogether, but we certainly don't need to blindly go through the wiki replacing things, let alone have a bot do it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::It would be nice if the bot was smart enough to do it so that it sounds natural. Then it would fix all our other issues while it's at it. Maybe. Anyway, it's still nice to have some "air of pompousness" I mean, level of formality that most encyclopedias bear. Then again this isn't ''just'' an encyclopedia. It is a fansite. However, there are at least ''some'' places in this site where third person and formal sense would definitely be better. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== Voting Question ==

I have [[HRWiki_talk:STUFF#Stuff_Voting_Procedure|posted]] a (rather lengthy) discussion on our current STUFF voting procedures. I ask that those who are interested would take a look and comment if you have the time. (Yes, it ''is'' lengthy.) I am posting this here so that the post has greater visibility. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:34, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== [SIC] ==

what does [sic] mean??? I want to know.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 08:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:"Sic" is an abbreviation for the Latin "sicut", which means "thus". You write it when you are quoting someone who made a mistake: you can't correct the mistake, or you'd be misquoting, so the "sic" lets your readers know it's not your mistake. For example, if you were quoting the Email writer in [[local news]], you might write, "Does Strong Badia have its' [sic] own local news?" to let people know that it was the original writer who spelled "its" wrong. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[Image:heimstern101.gif|22px]] 08:33, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

::Exactly. When quoting somebody who made a spelling or grammar error, you stick that thing there so nobody thinks it was you that made the mistake. It shows that you noticed it, and left it because you were quoting somebody's typage. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Those last two explanations are close, except that (1) ''sic'' is not an abbreviation, and (2) it doesn't ''necessarily'' indicate an error, just that the quoted text is being reproduced exactly as it should be (usually, however, it does indicate some kind of mistake in the original). Note that it isn't required to insert a ''sic'' unless there is a reasonable chance of misunderstanding. See also: ''The Chicago Manual of Style'' § 10.66, at 378 (14th ed.), and ''A Dictionary of Modern American Usage'', at 601 (1st ed.). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
:Now that we're in this topic... do we leave the ''sic''s visible to the regular user or hidden inside the HTML comments? I've seen two instances of the latter (hidden inside HTML) and I thought i had seen it where it was not hidden, but actually placed in the transcript itself. A quick [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.hrwiki.org+sic&btnG=Google+Search search] definitely reveals some ''sic''s that are visible like in [[Thy Dungeonman]], and I ''know'' i've seen commented ones out there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== User Image ==

I know you can only have 1 user image, but can you have a second image for your sig?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:02, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:A lot of people have been uploading images for their sigs, and the admins have generally been turning a blind eye to this. I think if you want to, go ahead and upload another image for your sig. (Just don't tell anyone!) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
::Well, I don't turn a blind eye to it, but I would like to see our policy changed. I would hereby like to discuss changing it. Here is my proposal: '''Everyone is allowed ''two regular-size'' personal images plus ''one signature-size'' image.''' What you do with them is up to you. If you want to have two images in your sig, you can use your second personal image for that, but then you only get one on your user page. If you want to forego a sig image, you can still put the signature-size image on your user page if you want. Images in signatures must not be bigger than 20px. Opinions? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I like that idea. Two personal images is much nicer, and allows for more freedom. This is why you're the best, It's dot com. I really think it's a good idea. You have my support. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I also second the proposal. We've been discussing this issue for a long time. I believe, however, that it should also be noted that a personal image is defined as '''An image or photograph, that has been uploaded by you to the HRWiki server, and is currently in use only in your personal userspace.''' A signature image no larger than twenty pixels also seems appropriate, but did we ever agree to a final size limitation on signature length itself? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I think this is a good idea too. Enough people don't even have personal images to begin with, so I think this a reasonable proposition. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:Not to throw a wrench at things or anything, but what about "gray area images" where several users share it and some people deem "the communities" and not their own, but are not used in actual articles? I know i'm spoiling people's fun here... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:35, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
::I believe that if it isn't used in any article and is on your userspace, it counts as a personal image. I would like a second opinion on this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I would say images that are not used on any main namespace artice count as a personal image of the uploader. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Did you mean "''...not used on any non-User or User Talk namespace article...''", Considering ''User:'' is a namespace? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::No, I meant "Main namespace," but forgot to write main. I just fixed it. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 21:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
::::The way HSRusername put it is how I've always looked at it. Note, however, that images used to make points in discussions or on STUFF pages are okay too, as well as things like templates and so on. But if an image is ''only'' in the User namespace, it is assigned to the person using it or the person who uploaded it (which are usually one and the same). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:02, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::I don't mind moving forward on Dot com's idea. Now that we have more space and bandwidth, personal images aren't as big of an issue. We do want to keep some limits just so things don't get out of hand, but I think two images plus a sig sized image is a reasonable limit. Good thinking, Dot com. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

::::::I don't have a problem with It's dot com's proposal as written. (I don't like signature images, and wouldn't mind not allowing them at all, but I know better than to argue with this crowd about that. Check out [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signature#Things to avoid|Wikipedia's things to avoid in signatures list]]. Most of what they suggest users don't do we allow for some reason.) I would however like to add the stipulation that all images be tagged and categorized appropriately. I have already set up a nice [[:Category:Images by copyright status|category system]] that can be used. It would be much easier to tell what images are personal images, because they would be licensed correctly by their uploaders. This of course could stem into a greater [[HRWiki:Projects|project]] of tagging all the images on the Wiki. Most of them would of course be tagged with <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:web-screenshot|web-screenshot]]}}, but the framework is in place for other licenses should the need arise.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:00, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Two images is what i've been saying [[:Image:fifty.PNG|all]] [[:Image:DndElcool.PNG|along]]! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC) (Please don't shoot me.)
:::::::I like that idea. Nice goin' dot com. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Yay! Now I can have my Van Buren Award image without any trouble. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Image tags==
I've been looking for a project to do. I'll get right on those tags. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 15:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Should I tag the images that are orphaned, put them up for deletion, both, or neither? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 15:46, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::Neither, for now. There's already a special page that shows [[Special:Unusedimages|unused images]], so there's no need to tag them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:22, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Um, before we go on tagging all orphaned images for deletion, I suggest that they be [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image:NavBarCropped.PNG&action=history carefully inspected] before they are deleted. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Right. Do not mark any images for deletion solely because they have been orphaned. (But if they're the wrong format or an exact duplicate of another image, then that's a different story. Is that right, Tom?) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::All right I'll tag them along with the rest. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:00, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::<strike>We need a DVD cover category. I'm no good with making templates or I'd do it myself.</strike> {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:00, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Never mind, I just made it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:51, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Great job ACupOfCoffee! Stramy's done good too! I have a question ... [[:Image:TeenGirlSquad10.PNG|are]] [[:Image:Bad_Guy_Pic.PNG|these]] from the DVD too? I know some might be both but my guess is that only the real source needs to the mentioned. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:26, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I very highly doubt that they are. I'm in favor of just the <nowiki>{{web-screenshot}}</nowiki> tag by itself on those, but what do others think? Better safe than sorry, or as little legalese as necessary? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well, both tags say literally "This '''is''' a screenshot from...". The image we have is only a literal screenshot of a web page. Legally, if the tags are worth anything at all, then the web one is enough. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:30, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

== Appearances VS. Filmography ==

Is there any sort of definition between "Appearances" and "Filmography" on a page? I noticed mostly it's [[Items|items]] that have "Appearances", whereas [[Characters|characters]] have "Filmography", which makes sense to me. Why I ask is if there's a difference, because I noticed a lot of [[Places|places]] have "Filmography". If you ask me, they should have "Appearances" because they're inanimate. "Filmography" sounds more like an acting thing, whereas "Appearances" sounds like an... appearing thing. Later, if it turns out there should be a difference between the two, or if one should be scrapped for another, we could take this to [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] as well. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Your logic about places having appearances makes sense to me. Filmographies feels like it should apply only to people (or in our case, dumb animal characters). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
::It's all over the place too... Small, rarely used Places like the [[Error Page]] and the [[Race Track]] say "Filmography", but so do a few big, highly linked places--[[The Field]], for example. ([[Strong Badia]], on the other hand, says "Appearances".) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I think I got them all. There were fewer than I thought, but now it's consistant (and logical). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Welcoming ==

How do you know when there is a new user and when to welcome them? {{User:Tampo/sig}}

:If on recent changes a user creates a userpage and has no talk page, then you should welcome them. If there is a user whose name appears red on rc, but has a talk page, it's likely that they've been welcomed. If you go to the talk page and click the history tab, you can check to see if they've already been welcomed, or if they haven't and just created a talk page a while back. But if you're not sure at all, just check that user's contributions and see how far they've been here. If they've been here for a while, with no welcome, it's you're decsion to welcome.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 15:30, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

== Creating an account ==

On the create an account or log in, there is only Username: and password. How in the world are you supposed to create an account? {{User:Tampo/sig}}
:Until the lockdown is lifted (which, according to all reports I've gotten, should be soon), you have to ask a sysop to do it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

== Lockdown ==

What is this lockdown thing and how did it start? {{User:Tampo/sig}}
:The lockdown means that anonymous users temporarily can no longer edit the Wiki. Also, no new users can register unless a sysop sets up an account for them. This happened because a vandal bot replaced several pages with the text "N---- STOLE MY COW!" at an extremely fast rate. We couldn't revert its edits and the sysops couldn't block the many usernames it was registering fast enough, so a lockdown was the only way we could stop it. As I understand it, the admins have a plan to end the lockdown soon. I hope that's helpful. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
::See also [[Talk:Main_Page#NSMC_is_at_it_again]]. By the way, when Heimstern says the bot "replaced several pages" and the sysops couldn't block the "many usernames," be aware that we're talking about numbers in the ''thousands'', done in a matter of ''minutes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's what I meant to say. I just didn't make it very clear. It was really bad. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Small Changes ==

Um... Is it just me, or did the text for page diffs just get really small? Usually, when you go to the recent changes and click the "diff" button, the text above (y'know, that appears in green or yellow boxes, and sometimes is red where you added stuff) isn't much smaller than the text on the rest of the page. Now, though, it's ''very'' small. I can hardly read it... I have a screenshot of this new version too (although THAT is also small, due to the nature of Photobucket), just to show the differences. It seems odd... Also, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask about this, either. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Whoa. I'm afraid it may actually be just me. The font size has become smaller on other URLs as well... Okay, with this new evidence, anyone know the cause--and better yet, how to fix it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::One cause of small text I've noticed is when the loading is stopped right before it is finished. It's happened to me a few times, but I believe in your case some personal CSS might be in order? I'll see if I can whip something up. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:47, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Do you have a mouse with a scroll wheel? If so, click on a "diff" link, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:FAQ&curid=2614&diff=223565&oldid=223563 like this one] for example. Hold down Ctrl and move the mouse wheel up, then down. The size of the text should change. Adjust it until it's back to normal, and you're done. Hope this helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:49, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Hey, that fixed it! Thanks, It's dot com! Is there anything you can't do? I wonder how that happened anyway... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Darn. Now my shoes are soaked from mucking around in the core CSS file. Anyway, glad that's fixed. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:54, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I was never able to understand CSS anyways... I can barely HTML. Thanks for tryin' anyways. Maybe next time. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== [[Sandbox]] ==

If you delete that line in the [[sandbox]] that says !--You WILL get blocked from editing the wiki if you remove this line--! will you really get blocked? {{User:Tampo/sig}}

:Ummm... Yeah. Usually the sysops don't lie.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:42, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
::Besides, do you really want to find out?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes. You get blocked for 24 hours. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 16:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Why would they say it if they didn't mean it? To scare us? :P [[User:Nintendogs123|Nintendogs123]] 07:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Why would they put that line there in the first place? {{User:Tampo/sig}}

:Because we don't want anyone deleting the line. It explains the purpose of the sandbox which is important for newbies. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

::Exactly. It's not so much the text "!--You WILL get blocked from editing the wiki if you remove this line--!", it's specifically refering to the <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> template right beside it, that explains the purpose of the sandbox. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Problem ==
:I was working on my user page, but when I saved it, it said I logged out. But I '''''was''''' logged in as Homsad, I'm positive! What happened? [[User:Homsad|Homsad]] 05:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know. Sometimes it happens to me and it can be very annoying {{User:Tampo/sig}}
:Weird... [[User:Homsad|Homsad]] 00:07, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::Probably just some kind of timeout problem. It's happened to me here and there too. Not all too often though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== Font ==

On my [[User:Tampo/Holiday_Sigs|Holiday Sig page]] at the bottom with the seasons, they are in a different font. How did this happen? {{User:Tampo/sig}}
:You probably forgot to close a tag in your April Fool's sig, as best I can figure it. This happens often to people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I checked and all my tags were closed. {{User:Tampo/sig}}
:Check again. It's probably a small tag. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
::There is an extra small tag, but I'm not sure exactly where to put the close... I'll keep trying. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:42, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
::I gave up on trying to close it, I just got rid of it instead. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Now it's fine. {{User:Tampo/sig}}

== Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies ==

When I was editing the Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies when I saved the page, the Bendini Sisters entry said :below.) So I checked the editing box and the Bendidni sisters entry was just fine. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?! {{User:Tampo/sig}}

Never mind. I got it fixed. {{User:Tampo/sig}}

==Sysop==
How do users become sysops? {{User:Stothos/sig}}
:If there is need of them, other sysops will make them into such. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:What are sysops? —[[User:It's dot org|It's dot org]]
:: People with the ability to delete pages (rather than just blanking them), block abusive users, and so forth. There are currently 16 human sysops (and two robots with sysop-like powers). Anyone can edit pages, of course; sysops just have a little bit more power in doing so. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:: Also, see [[HRWiki:Administrators|this page]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Actualy, Bureaucrats make them into such. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies ==

Somehow on Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies, the whole page changed. Frotzer and Gaspeau were switched around and Harvax's quote was wrong. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?!?!?! {{User:Tampo/sig}}

== Revert ==

How do you revert? I would like to revert but I don't know how. The instructions are confusing. {{User:Tampo/sig}}
:When a page has been trolled or had a bad edit made, the simplest way to change it back is to revert it. Each page has a history of every edit made to it, see. Up at the top, you'll notice a little tab marked "history" (it's the fourth from the left, usually). Click on that and it'll bring up a page of all the edits made to that page, most recent ones on the top. Find the version you want to change it back to and click the date for that version. This will bring that version up in the window for editing. Just type "reverted" or "rv" (or "rv/v" for vandalism) ito the edit summary box beneath it and hit "save page". And that will correct the whole page! I hope that helps. If not, check out the [[Help:Contents|Help pages]] for more information. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Instructions for reverting can also be found at [[HRWiki:WikiTroll#How to revert a page]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:45, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Screens]] ==

How come nobody notices that there is a discussion page for [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Screens|Stinkoman 20X6 Screens]]?!? I made a page for it in November and put something on [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies_and_Items]] that there is a disscussion page for Stinkoman Screens. {{User:Tampo/sig}}

== The Thing ==

Should we add on the [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] that he copies peoples stuff? He copied my Tampo Wiki page '''exactly'''!!! He also copied Benol's Guestbook exactly. Is this trolling? {{User:Tampo/sig}}
:Actually, those subpages are not allowed because they are fanstuff/blogs. See our [[HRWiki:User_space#What about user subpages.3F|subpage guidelines]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. Do you mean that he copied the ''format'' of the guestbook? The content of the two guestbooks is certainly not the same. First of all, you can steal formatting from just about anywhere you want. Second, Benol stole the format from the Lappy emails anyway. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:::The accusation that anyone copied anyone else's stuff would depend heavily on whether any of this stuff really belongs to the person who posted it, which is cleared up nicely in our disclaimer. The disclaimer clearly states that everything you post here gets released under a creative commons license, which states unequivically that all this content is free for use by anyone so long as they don't make any money from using and/or publishing it. Therefore, nothing you post here belongs to you, and therefore, anyone is free to copy anyone else's stuff. Period. If you don't agree with that, you're free to stop posting stuff on the wiki. '''EDIT:''' Now that I've read this again I realize I sounded kinda angry here. I hate how it's impossible to convey tone on the internet. I didn't mean to sound angry; only meant to make a point. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, often I feel the need to use a smiley and can't on the wiki too. :) As for copying, I just wanted to point out that I think of others copying my formatting or ideas as a sign that I did something right, or came up with a cool idea. I'm always proud when that happens. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:19, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Sorry that was an acsedant. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sysops ==

Once sysops are sysops, are they always going to be sysops (like permanently)? {{User:Tampo/sig}}

:For all intents and purposes, yes. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''[EDIT CONFLICT]'' Yes. The only exception I can think of is if a sysop actually harmed the wiki through vandalism, trolling or some other method. This has never happened and likely never will, since only good users become sysops in the first place. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:28, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm always intrigued when people post questions like this. So, out of curiosity, why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

:::Perhaps this is another "[[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 6#Inactive Admins|inactive admins]]" comment? For any reason, I don't think we should worry about it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

::::I'm sure that also if a sysop were ever to ask to step down, that would also be respected. But there wouldn't really be much of a reason for that. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

== Number ==

On my [[User:Tampo/Guestbook|guestbook]] the numbers are all weird. They go 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3. Why are they like that? {{User:Tampo/sig}}

== Book sources ==

Whats the [[Special:Booksources|Book sources]] thing?? {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:34, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:It is supposed to provide automatic links to book houses so you can, I presume, purchase or get more info about a book. For example, go to [[Special:Booksources/0439784549]] and then click on one of the links, and you will see a page about ''Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Adding articles ==

There's something Homestar Runner related that I want to add to the wiki. Where can I do this?
:Go to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] and make a link for it by typing <code><nowiki>[[Artcle Name]]</nowiki></code> (put in the name of what you want the article to be called, of course) and clicking the resulting link (which should be red). It will open an editing window, in which you can invent your article. Make sure you read the [[HRWiki:Standards|article standards]] and similar pages first, though. Good luck with your article. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It's a good idea to check to see if we already have the article before creating a new one, too. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:52, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Cheddarlebbon:Thanks, guys!
You can see my article here! [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Sandbox]

:::Thanks for the contribution, but there are two things: 1. You actually just created the article *in* the Sandbox Talk, rather than creating a link in the Sandbox leading to the new article. 2. The notable info about the Joy of Painting Easter egg is already on [[Toons Menu|this page]]. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Cheddarlebbon:Sorry! I'm new to this place. Well, I know there's a small mention about it on the Toons page, but I gave it a full description.

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