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Cole — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:33:00 GMT

Cole: /* Ping */

==French Abbreviations==

Originally someone said "The abbreviation for "Monsieur" is "M.", but it is misspelled as "Mssr." in the "French Countryside" e-mail." Then someone stuck below it that Mssr. actually stood for Monseigneur. These two stood for some time, uncombined, until someone combined them a few days ago, perhaps hastily: now it says that Monseigneur stands for Monsieur, which doesn't make much sense. So I hope to set this straight.

Monseigneur's usual abbreviation is actually Mgr. rather than Mssr. ([http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=monseigneur+mssr&word2=monseigneur+mgr take a look]). Mssr. could be a misspelling of that, but it seems more likely to be a mistake based on the abbreviation Messrs. or Mssrs., short for Messieurs, the plural of Monsieur (whose abbreviation is indeed M.).

Incidentally, Monseigneur is an older word, for people of high rank -- I guess kind of like "milord" as compared to "mister." -- [[User:Minivet|Minivet]] 11:12, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

=="Slash"==

Why is it noted in the transcript (and similarly in other transcripts) that Strong Bad pronounces "triumphantly/abundantly" as "triumphantly slash abundantly"? Is there any other way to pronounce it? It seems perfectly normal to pronounce "slash" to me...--[[User:4.244.42.126|4.244.42.126]] 11:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, on radio, he didn't pronounce "voice'''/'''appearance mismatch".

==Sphere?==

It's possible that the end of the email is a refrence to the book turned movie "Sphere" where the computer apparently "talks back" to the characters in their underwater habitat.

==Missy Palmer?==

This page and the [[Female Lappy 486]] page both say that FL486 is voiced by Missy Palmer. Where was this confirmed? It doesn't sound much like her IMHO... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:57, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

:I don't know myself. I only put the Missy Palmer fact on the Female Lappy 486 page because I read it here. It may or may not be true, but I hope it's true :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 18:37, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

:As likely as it seems, I don't think it should be listed as a fun fact unless we can actually verify it. People look to this site as a resource; we should make every effort to list accurate information. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 23:33, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Jus' what I was going to ask. Since there are no credits, we have no proof one way or another that Missy did the voice. It's just word of mouth. I personally think it sounds a lot more like "Mike" Chapman, myself. [[User:142.161.206.50|142.161.206.50]] 13:25, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

Dear [[User: Jay|Jay]],

Why are you using lazy abbreviations for Female Lappy 486? It is really simple to type those two easy words out, you know! Quit being lazy!

Signed,

[[User: Postal Service|Postal Service]]

Are you sure it wasn't a simulated voice? I think that a computer voice program would be able to say all the the Lappy said. It's a possibility. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

== Ogre? ==

Okay, when Homestar showed up, he called Strong Bad something. The transcript says it is "ogre", but I think he might've said "ogle". In my opinion, ogle even describes Strong Bad better. I kind of wonder if TBC would say ogle on a G-rated cartoon, but it's really not a bad word, so... you think about that. --[[User:152.163.100.71|152.163.100.71]] 20:29, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Strong bad is an impertinent, flirtatious, or amorous stare? That doesn't make sense... unless you think Homestar was trying to say "ogre" but said "ogle" instead. [[User:68.228.70.62|68.228.70.62]] 23:11, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

::The first one. Homestar probably tried to say "ogler" or something of that nature and screwed up, or maybe he just thought ogle could be used as a noun. After all, "flirt" can be a noun. --[[User:205.188.116.71|205.188.116.71]] 07:15, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::Sounds like ogre to me. An ogle makes no sense contextually or lexigraphically. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 10:28, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::I thought Homestar tells Strong Bad that Marzipan says he is an oval (presumably because of the shape of his head?) It is kind of slurred, but I hear it that way every time, now.--[[User:Meg|Meg]] 12:02, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::::Why would Marzipan ever call him an oval? Calling him an ogler almost makes sense, but Homestar doesn't even make enough consonantal sounds for that to be what he's saying. "Ogre", however, sounds a lot like "oguw", and sounds exactly like something Marzipan would say about Strong Bad. Also, it should be remembered that what was said was probably said for Strong Bad to hear. Would Strong Bad see "ogler" as an insult? Would he even know what was said?

::::::No, not an oval. There's definitely a "G" sound in there. Also, whether or not Strong Bad sees "ogler" as an insult isn't important. He wasn't offended or irritated by Marzipan's comment anyway. Ogler makes sense, but knowing the H*R style of humor, ogre seems more likely. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

== Head movement ==

As Strong Bad is typing his e-mail to Leonard Nimoy, his head doesn't move like it usually does, or as it did with the Pink Border. This may also be the first time we've actually seen him typing; his boxing gloves have always been out of frame before. -- [[User:Uncommon|Uncommon]] 11:01, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

:[[dullard]] gave us a pretty good view, as did [[fingers]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:11, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Well, to be really picky, you don't see the keyboard in ''dullard'', and ''fingers'' doesn't demonstrate his usual method. Of course, in this one we only see him typing in a fantasy scene. -- [[User:Uncommon|Uncommon]] 22:38, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Removed portion of a fun fact ==

This could be a reference to the recent film [[Wikipedia:National Treasure|National Treasure]] in which designs are found on the Declaration of Independence.

This was immediately after noting that the paper was the Constitution this time. I don't think that this was at all a reference to National Treasure. It could just as easily be a reference to the fact that the Brothers Chaps live in the United States. In other words, I don't think this is a reference until Strong Bad takes the printed on constitution and finds a treasure with it. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 10:29, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

Yah, but it might be. I say keep it. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 21:45, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Jetsons Reference? ==

Does anyone else see the reference to the cartoon, 'The Jetsons' in the dinner scene with the chairs and robotic arm?

Should it be added to 'fun facts'?
--[[User:orang55|orang55]] 16:54, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

It could be, but I don't think that the reference is clear enough to be added. Perhaps if the section was called Baseless Conjectures, it would work. Actually, if the chairs that they are sitting on are nearly exactly like the chairs from the Jetsons, then yes. If the chairs don't look nearly identical to the chairs from the Jetsons, then no. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 09:27, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Well Played ==

Does anyone think that the line "Well played, Strong Bad" is a reference to anything, or is actually a commonly said line? I'm thinking it could be a reference to the film ''Beckett'' about Thomas Beckett, in which King Henry says at one point "Well played, Thomas." It was a very striking line. Any other thoughts on the subject?
--[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
:Seems like a major stretch to me. If anything, "well played" is likely a reference to competitive games (particularly of the strategy variety) where the phrase would be really common; yet, that seems too broad an area to even mention. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:24, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

::It's actually quite a [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22well+played%22 common phrase] which I don't think can be a reference to any one thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::Good research, Tom. I rest my case. -- [[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

== Scooby-Doo Fun Fact ==

"It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series."
This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone.
--[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*Okay, I decided a STUFFing was in order, so I moved the fun fact there. --Ogog

==Declined Fun Facts==
These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

=== Ping ===
The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*n/m about this point...
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Third''' -- It's definitely the same sound. If you import the clip from Echos into flash and publish a swf file to get the compression effect.. it sounds EXACTLY the same. [[User:Olene|olene]] 03:57, 23 Jan 2005
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! → [[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**And if you actually READ my above my comments, you'd notice Pink Floyd didn't download the ping(the song was made in 1971 for the lvoe fo god) the pianist of the group actually played the note through a leslie speaker cabinet, so it's not a coincidence. I think it should be a rule you can't decline it unless you've heard the song. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 23:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**I'm retracting my vote; the pings do sound strikingly similar. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:50, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Since I've been noticing a gigantic argument surrounding this particular fun fact, I'm going to propose a way to solve this.'''
:Now then, it seems that most of the individuals who are declining the fact are not very familiar with the song "Echoes." Since I personally don't believe in voting on a fun fact unless I actually know the details of the fact being disputed, I'm going to do something if others agree to this.
:I have an mp3 of "Echoes" (legally obtained from my personal copy of Meddle) on my hard drive, along with an mp3-to-wav converter and wav editing software. What I will do, if it's requested, is to take out an excerpt from the song "Echoes" (say, the first minute) and post it somewhere where everyone can hear it and draw their own conclusions.
:This way, everyone will have heard the fact in question and will make the voting far more fair. Anyone who thinks I should do this, please respond. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:14, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Personally I was abstaining from voting since I'd not heard the song... the clip'd help infinitely, methinks. Do it, please. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 00:25, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Definetely do it. I think a lot of people would realize that they are the same ping if it was easy to access.(but actually if you go here: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html it plays the said pinging sound as the website opens, so...) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 00:59, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
***The reason I want to take this particular approach, however, is the fact that I think a lot of people won't believe it's a sample from the song unless I get a clip from the actual song up here. You know how Kamek up above just thought it could've been the "same wav file" that both TBC and Pink Floyd used (though I don't even think that sort of technology had even been thought up of yet in friggin' 1971). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 07:54, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Good point. Lets go with your idea...(goes off to headbang to The Nile Song) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:06, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****You can tell that my knowledge of Pink Floyd can fit between these parentheses: (). I was unaware the song was over 30 years old, thus my comment on wave files. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''I have an exerpt on my hard drive now, but nowhere to put it.''' Anyone have an idea where I can put this mp3 for now? Perhaps temporarily upload it to the Wiki, if that's alright by the mods? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:27, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Yousendit.com should be good(just send the link to yourself)
*[http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27LFK8IK0YDAY0567BDQ6EVSG1 Echoes excerpt] - Done using the method suggested above, so I don't know how well it will work. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 11:56, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Severe decline. I listened to them at the same time and then alternating. One of them is a higher pitch than the other. But who cares? Why are people fighting so hard just for one fun fact? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:I only did what I did because it really grates on my nerves when people vote out of ignorance. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''good' Thats good to know you actually listened to it before declining. Keep in mind, the sound quality could effect it. Someone should host an SWF of the echoes excerpt, so we can REALLY confirm this...
*'''Decline''' At first I thought they were the same sound, and they do sound pretty similar, but after a close comparison in Goldwave, it's pretty clear the Chaps are just using a generic ping that sounds similar to this note. I've made an audio file for comparison purposes; the first sound is from Echoes, the second is from Dreamail, and the third is the ping from Echoes mixed into the Dreamail clip. [[Media:dreammail-echoes.ogg]] --[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 10:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Because you have to hear the song and really pay attention to a certain part, I believe that even if it is from the song, it's not fun enough, and also I don't think it's worth putting up fun facts that require anything that need proof from anything other than something easily accessable.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, with 5 valid Decline votes and 4 valid Accept votes, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:47, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''COMMENT'''Holy crap! It DOES sound the same. We should have put it as a fun fact.[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 21:51, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)
*'''COMMENT'''I realize this is an old and dated subject, but is there any way we could get this as a fun fact, or is it declined forever? I only mention this because this is exactly the type of thing I read those facts for.[[User:Cole|Cole]]

=== C. Elegans ===
The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

* '''Neutral (for now)''' - I removed this since it screams of a BIG stretch, but there is SOME connection... I dunno, what do you all think? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:04, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Only because he never ''actually'' signs the email "C. Elegante," he signs it as "Chester Elegante." There might be some similarity, but it is a huge stretch to say TBC actaully planned that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' BIG stretch. If TBC planned that, Strong Bad would have signed his email as "C. Elegante" instead of "Chester Elegante". [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:43, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:39, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of unanimous voting, this submission is declined. Moved to [[Talk:dreamail]] →[[User:evin290|evin290]]

===those weird little kids (Declined)===
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A scooby doo reference would be "If it weren't for those meddling kids..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:48, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Diggity-decline''' Yeah, or pretty much every cartoon series ever made. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:59, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by others --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
==ogre==
do you think that the word "ogre" is a reference to the letters "o" "g""r"and"e"?-[[iheartstretches]]

20X6 vs. 1936

Cole — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 04:27:25 GMT

Cole: /* Trivia */

[[Image:20X6 versus 1936.png|thumb|right|220px|Just shimmy and shake!]]

Stinkoman meets The Homestar Runner and asks him for a challenge.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Stinkoman]], [[The Homestar Runner]]

'''Places:''' [[Planet K]]

'''Date:''' March 17, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 1:55

'''Page Title:''' CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING!!

== Transcript ==
''{Open to Stinkoman training in the field.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{punches the air}'' Hah hah hah hah hah hah hah! ''{kicks the air}'' Hya hya hya hya hya hya hya!

''{The Homestar Runner walks up, kicking his can. The can taps Stinkoman's foot.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Waah!''{jumps}'' Who are you?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm the Homestar Runner.

'''STINKOMAN:''' That name is dumb. It sounds like it is soooo dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, what's your moniker?

'''STINKOMAN:''' I go by Stinkoman. That's the name of a talented fighter if ever there was one.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, if you say so. Would you care for some dry meal? ''{pulls out a bag of dry meal which makes a dry coughing sound}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' No way! I'm training for fighting, or maybe a challenge. So what's that thing you're kicking around?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, that's just an old can of water soup. I kick it around ever since ''{sadly}'' my dog worshed away in the storm of '28.

'''STINKOMAN:''' You seem like you might not be from around here. Do you have any special powers?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I can play a mean worshboard. ''{pulls out a washboard that says "worsh it" and plays it}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{flinches}'' Whoa, what is that? ''What'' is ''that?'' Some kinda robot?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What's a robit?

'''STINKOMAN:''' You don't know what a robot is? Hahaha! You're so dumb! Hahaha! Dumb.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, go soak your fat head.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Are you asking for a CHALLEENGE? ''{starts to power up}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes sir. Yes sir I am.

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{jumps high into the air}'' [[Double Deuce|DOUBLE DEUCE]]!!!!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{pulls out a pea shooter and shoots at him}'' Ptooie. ''{it hits Stinko Man in the eye}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{falls to the ground}'' Ow! My eye! It's like, my eye! It hurts so bad!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, folks, you know what that means. Now I'll do a dance. ''{starts dancing}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hahaha! That dance cracks me up! Hahaha! You gotta teach me!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Just hafta shimmy and shake.

'''STINKOMAN:''' Yeah! Now I've got it! ''{starts dancing}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Twenty exty-six!

'''STINKOMAN:''' Nineteen thirty-six!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Twenty exty-six!

'''STINKOMAN:''' Nineteen thirty-six!

''{repeat and fade to black}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Trivia===
*The word 'robot' was coined in 1921 by Czech writer [[wikipedia:Karel Capek|Karel Capek]] in his play [[Wikipedia:R.U.R._%28Rossum%27s_Universal_Robots%29|R.U.R.]]
*A storm struck Florida in 1928 and is often referred to as "The Storm of '28"

===Inside References===
*Stinkoman asking "''What is that?'' Some kinda robot?" is a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[some kinda robot]].

===Goofs===
*The scratch line for The Homestar Runner sometimes sticks out.
*During part of the toon the dry meal sack has a scratch line, but for the rest it does not

===Real-World References===
*The kicking attack Stinkoman practices bears a strong resemblance to [[wikipedia:Chun Li|Chun Li]]'s lightning kick attack from [[Wikipedia:Street Fighter II|the Street Fighter 2 series]].
== External Links ==
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.html|watch "20X6 vs. 1936"]]
*[[HR:20x6vs1936.swf|view the Flash file for "20X6 vs. 1936"]]

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Old-Timey]][[Category:20X6]][[Category:Stinkoman Filmography]] [[Category:The Homestar Runner Filmography]]

User:Cole

Cole — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:46:55 GMT

Cole:

http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/1/1a/180px-sterrance.png
I want one

User:Cole

Cole — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:46:29 GMT

Cole:

http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/1/1a/180px-sterrance.png

Homestar Presents: Presents

Cole — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:40:45 GMT

Cole: /* Remarks */

[[Image:xmas2004.png|thumb| Naked somehow. ]]

Homestar does some ''very'' last-minute [[Decemberween]] shopping, and ends up getting people crappy discount gifts.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Tony Stony]], [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Homsar]], [[Bubs]], [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Pom Pom]] (Easter Egg), [[The King of Town]] (Easter egg), [[The Poopsmith]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Homestar's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[The Field]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[King of Town's Castle]] (Easter egg)

'''Page Title:''' White and Drifted Snow, Yo!

'''Date:''' December 20, 2004

== Transcript ==
''{Wintery music plays as the camera zooms in on Homestar's clock; it flips from 9:59 to 10:00. Cut to Homestar Runner in bed yawning. Homestar sits up and looks out the window, and the music stops with a record scratch. It's the middle of the night.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh crap! ''{cut to outside Homestar's window looking in}'' I set the alarm for 10 PM instead of AM again!

''{cut back to inside the bedroom}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I was supposed to go Decemberween shopping today!

''{Another record scratch as the camera focuses on a page-a-day calendar, which reads "Dec. 25 — 'The D'Ween, yo.'"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh crap! It's Decemberween already!

''{Homestar jumps out of bed and runs off, and we hear the sound of him smacking into something.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh crap! I ran into the door!

''{Homestar gets up and runs off again. The camera shakes to banging noises offscreen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{dryly}'' Oh crap, I fell down the stairs.

''{Cut to outside Homestar's house. Naked and censored Homestar leaps out and looks around.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sighing}'' And now, I ran out of the house, naked somehow.

''{Homestar looks up at the snow.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{happily}'' Ooh, but it ''is'' snowing.

''{Cut back to the calendar, over which the cartoon title appears, then to a field view with the the title "Blah blah blah — The Brothers Chaps," then to the side of Bubs' Decemberween-decorated concession stand and the title "Vocal Styles by Missy & Matt," and then finally to the Strongs' living room with the title "Here we go."}''

''{In the Strongs' basement, a Capsela set and present wrappings are on the floor. Strong Mad is on the couch wearing a green Decemberween sweater with snowflakes on it. He's happily tossing a large rock with a winking face drawn on it and a red ribbon up in the air and catching it.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I LOVE YOU, TONY STONY! ''{holding the rock in front of his face}'' NO, I LOVE YOU MORE!

''{The camera pans over to reveal Strong Bad playing with an extending claw toy in front of a box labelled "Grabbo Arm."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This thing is awesome. The Grabbo Arm demands respect. ''{to Strong Mad}'' I'd like to see somebody front on this. ''{calling}'' Hey, The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{off-camera}'' Meh?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Grab a hold of that egg nog.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{off-camera} {"Okay" noise}''

''{The Cheat yelps as Strong Bad extends the Grabbo Arm, grabs him, and pulls him onscreen. He's wearing a red nose and antlers and holding a glass of egg nog.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, man.

''{Cut to outside, where Homsar is waving a paintbrush, standing next to a Salvation Army-like red pail with a sign over it reading "Baked Beans." The paintbrush rings like a bell. Homestar runs by, then skids to a stop in the snow and turns around.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Listen up, shortstop. I need some presents.

'''HOMSAR:''' Alms for the pudgy? Alms for the pudgy?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhm, I don't know what any of that means, but I will make use of your complimentary spit bucket. Ahct-poo!

''{Homestar spits into the bucket and runs off.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' You're a real state trooper.

''{Homestar runs across the countryside in silhouette, then to Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{quickly}'' Bubs I need to buy everyone and their brother Decemberween presents! ''{panting}''

'''BUBS:''' Running a little late, aren't we Homestar?

''{Zoom in on Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I've got an hour and forty-five minutes. What do you got?

'''BUBS:''' ''{motioning to his left}'' Well, there's a bunch of my aught-four crap in that filthy box over there. Gotta make room for the aught-five crap!

''{Homestar walks over to the box, clearly labelled "aught four crap," and kneels down. The camera switches to inside the box looking out.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, what do we got here? ''{pulls out electrical tape}'' Electrical tape? Pom Pom loves electrical tape. What else, what else? ''{pulls out a steak knife}'' Ohh, rusty steak knife. That's got Coach Z written all over it.

''{Cut to the locker room. Coach Z is sitting on the bench in front of a TV dinner on a tray.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ooh, Salisbury steak. Ring ring! ''{Picks up a phone with frayed wires, not attached to anything}'' Hellor? Ooh, Mom! Well, a very cheery Decemberween to you too! ''{shakes his head}'' Oh, Dad, it's you. Sorry about that. Yes, sir, I cooked a turkey, with the gravied yams and stuffinged ham. ''{camera zooms out to show entire bench}'' No, I'm not alone. Yes, this phone is plugged in.

''{The lights suddenly go out.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Aww, crackles. ''{Dejectedly}'' I forgot to pay my bills again this year...

''{Cut back to the concession stand. Homestar pulls out a banana with an arrow through it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Bubs, check this out. For the Poopsmith who has everything...!

'''BUBS:''' You give me anything in that box, you'll be gettin' a kick in the skull with a ribbon on it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right right. Ribbons. Bubs loves ribbons. Lessee... Strong Sad. Don't need to worry about Strong Sad.

''{Cut to an old fashioned bathtub with chains holding the boards covering the top in place.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{singing, from locked inside the tub}'' One night in Bangkok and the rough got rougher!

''{Cut to Marzipan's house, where she is sitting on the couch sporting Decemberween lights in her hair.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' If Homestar doesn't get here soon with my present, {camera zooms in} I'm gonna cook his goose.

''{Homestar runs in and trips, falling flat on his face in front of Marzipan. He gets up in a daze and hands Marzipan a wrapped present.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{groggily}'' Happy Decemberween, Marzi-man.

''{Homestar falls back on the floor and Marzipan opens the present.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{sounding disappointed}'' Wire cutters...?

''{Strong Bad walks in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Foolish Homestar. Decemberween is not about getting people presents. It's about getting people ''good'' presents! ''Good presents!'' Not this last-minute discount crap you're trying to foist on us!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{interrupting}'' Oh, Homestar, it's perfect!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER AND STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' It is? ''{Homestar shakes his head a few times in disbelief of his blind luck}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This is just what I need to free the baby seals from the crab traps down at the wharfs. ''{Marzipan walks off, singing to herself}'' Free the baby seals...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, shut my mouth.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well well, Strong-o Bad-o. Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{brandishing his Grabbo Arm}'' Oh yeah? Well, the Grabbo Arm has what it takes, ''{extends the arm}'' and what it takes is Marzipan's purse.

''{The Grabbo Arm comes back with Marzipan's purse.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No skin off my back.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, thanks! Have a nice last seven minutes of Decemberween, Homestar. ''{pokes Homestar with Marzipan's purse}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{increduously}'' There's only seven minutes left of Decemberween?! Oh, crap! I forgot to get everyone presents!

''{Homestar runs off again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, it goes on and on like this.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-camera}'' Oh, crap! There's only seven minutes left of Decemberween?!

''{Homestar Runner runs back behind Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Seriously. Like until New Year's.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-camera}'' Oh, crap! there's only seven minutes left...

''{scene fades to black.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I didn't know we had any wharfs.

''{The camera returns to Homestar's clock, which displays the number of minutes remaining until Decemberween/Christmas ends. The back button appears.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Homestar's Clock" at the end to see what happened to the three main characters left out of this toon.
:''{The King of Town, the Poopsmith, and Pom Pom sit around a table in the King of Town's castle with two cans, one labeled "gravied yams" and the other labeled "stuffinged ham" on the table. On the wall behind them is a sign that reads, "Left Out Characters' Support Group & Buffet."}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Pass the gravied yams, please. And don't bogart that stuffinged ham neither!

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*At the end, [[Homestar's Clock]] counts down the minutes remaining of Decemberween, although it is actually counting down the minutes until the end of the 25th of the current month (based on the local computer system's clock). If it reaches zero, the clock reads, "It's over".

===Trivia===
*The Cheat is dressed as Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer.
*This episode marks Homsar's first appearance in a Decemberween toon.
*This is the first main Decemberween toon that does not end in a multi-character holiday greeting.
*Homestar's comment to Strong Bad referring to himself as the "ol' captain of the team" is also referenced in [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] interview with [http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,59261,00.html Wired].
*The sound quality is higher than normal, resulting in crisper sound compared to other toons on the site.
*Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

===Remarks===
*If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th.
*Homestar has somehow got cinnamon on his face again. He doesn't have to shave according to the [[caper]] Easter egg.
*This is one of the few times we see the inside of Homestar's House, and the very first time we saw his bedroom. The outside looks as it did in The Best Decemberween Ever, which is different from how it has looked in older toons, such as [[The Reddest Radish]] and [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]].
*Homestar's alarm clock here is different from the alarm clock in [[radio]]. It was apparently made just for him, as it says "Homestar's Clock" right on it.
**Homestar remarks that he set his alarm for 10 P.M. again, however no such alarm ever goes off.
**It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. — usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
*Apparently [[Free Country, USA]] has wharfs, although Strong Bad didn't know this either, despite him appearing in a boat in both [[lures & jigs]] and [[montage]].
*Homestar does not have the Race Car Bed he bought with Marzipan's credit card in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]
*Homestar takes about 15 minutes to go from his house to Bubs' Concession Stand; he woke up at 10, and then told Bubs that he had an 1 hour and 45 minutes left when he got to the concession stand.

===Inside References===
*Homestar's bunny slippers were first seen in [[caper]].
*Coach Z's [[Disconnected Telephone|disconnected telephone]] resembles the one from [[replacement]].
* Strong Sad is locked in the bathtub—something he said his brothers do to him every Decemberween, according to [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].
===Real-World References===
*While locked in the bathtub, Strong Sad sings a misquoted lyric from the song "One Night in Bangkok," from the musical ''Chess''. It became a number one hit for Murray Head in 1984, and was composed and written by Benny Andersson and Bjorn Ulvaeus of ABBA and Tim Rice.
*The toy seen briefly on the floor in the Strongs' living room is a [http://www.constructiontoys.com/store/capsela.php Capsela] set, a module-based construction set which can be used to make portable fans, real floating boats, all manner of wheel and caterpillar-driven vehicles, and even remote-controlled robots. It appears as though their set in particular was used to make a boat (the "balloon" capsules on the bottom are a dead giveaway).
*The piano T-shirt Homestar is wearing in bed is essentially the same as that worn by [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson]] in bed in the video for [[Wikipedia:Beat It|"Beat It"]]. This includes the inaccurate depiction of a keyboard, showing both single black keys and three white keys in a row.
*Strong Mad's rock is a reference to "pet rocks" which were popular in the mid-'70s.
*Homsar's "Alms for the pudgy" request, and Baked Beans bucket/complimentary spit-bucket is a take on the [[Wikipedia:Salvation Army|Salvation Army]]'s annual Christmas drives.
*The term "bogart", meaning to hold out on, refers to (who else) the great [[Wikipedia:Humphrey Bogart|Humphrey Bogart]], to describe the way he would hold out on tapping his cigarette ash by instead letting it build up and fall on its own.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:xmas04.html|watch "Homestar Presents: Presents"]]
*[[HR:xmas04_mx.swf|view the Flash file for "Homestar Presents: Presents"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1544 forum thread re: "Decemberween Toon"]

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[[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Coach Z Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:Pom Pom Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]][[Category:The Poopsmith Filmography]]

plan "g"

Cole — Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:46:15 GMT

Cole:

"plan g" is what the cheat was in the holiday toon:[[Happy Fireworks!]]

The plan consisted of Strong Mad launching the Cheat into the air and him causing fireworks to appear somehow.

Apearences:
holiday toon:[[Happy Fireworks!]]

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plan "g"

Cole — Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:46:04 GMT

Cole:

"plan g" is what the cheat was in the holiday toon:[[Happy Fireworks!]]
The plan consisted of Strong Mad launching the Cheat into the air and him causing fireworks to appear somehow.

Apearences:
holiday toon:[[Happy Fireworks!]]

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