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Talk:Date Nite

Elvis — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:40:52 GMT

Elvis: /* Going down with the ship */

== Secret Hot Date ==

Is there a connection between the "secret hot date" Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the "hot date" they actually went on? Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}

:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Public Rage-o flyer ==

The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears. (They look quite similar) Anyone else think so? -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like "I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== 8-Bit resemblence ==

i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the "Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date" line. it's funny, but that's just me.
--[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

== Mario ==

I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said "Itsa me, the chef-a", but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:One of Mario's catchphrases is "It's-a me! Mario!" I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==

The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.

== Going down with the ship ==

Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Rockets ==

In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Date Nite

Elvis — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:39:45 GMT

Elvis: /* Going down with the ship */

== Secret Hot Date ==

Is there a connection between the "secret hot date" Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the "hot date" they actually went on? Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}

:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Public Rage-o flyer ==

The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears. (They look quite similar) Anyone else think so? -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like "I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== 8-Bit resemblence ==

i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the "Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date" line. it's funny, but that's just me.
--[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

== Mario ==

I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said "Itsa me, the chef-a", but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:One of Mario's catchphrases is "It's-a me! Mario!" I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==

The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.

== Going down with the ship ==

Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Rockets ==

In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Date Nite

Elvis — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:36:11 GMT

Elvis: /**/Rockets

== Secret Hot Date ==

Is there a connection between the "secret hot date" Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the "hot date" they actually went on? Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}

:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Public Rage-o flyer ==

The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears. (They look quite similar) Anyone else think so? -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like "I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== 8-Bit resemblence ==

i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the "Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date" line. it's funny, but that's just me.
--[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

== Mario ==

I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said "Itsa me, the chef-a", but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:One of Mario's catchphrases is "It's-a me! Mario!" I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==

The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.

== Going down with the ship ==

Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Rockets ==

In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Television Sightings

Elvis — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:29:22 GMT

Elvis: /* Maya and Miguel */

{{sightingslanguagewarning}}

==Ace of Cakes==
During the Episode [http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_db/episode/0,3100,FOOD_26996_45308,00.html Hell Week], Mary is shown working at her computer with a [[Strong Bad]] [[Store Toys#Collectible Figurines|Figurine]] sitting on top of it.

== Adult Swim ==
At the end of a Sunday night bump on April 30th, 2006, Adult Swim asked viewers to check out "our podcast, or go see Homestar Runner [which kicks our ass]".

== Angel ==
[[Image:thegirlinquestion161.jpg|thumb|Look closely at his shirt]]
*In a season five episode of ''Angel'' entitled ''The Girl in Question'', Spike and Angel visited Buffy's apartment and instead found Andrew, who was wearing a black Strong Bad t-shirt. Later in the episode, Andrew wore the same Strong Bad shirt with a pore strip plastered on his nose.
*Incidentally, Andrew is the very same character who appeared in the Trogdor-laden ''Buffy'' reference. Since both shows are the brainchildren of creator/writer/executive director Joss Whedon, we can probably assume that the creator of Buffy is also a fan of Homestar Runner.

== Attack of the Show! ==
*On the May 24, 2005 episode of G4's ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira, a host, mentions [[Peasant's Quest]].
*On the July 6, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' guest host Tom Fulp, creator of Newgrounds.com, was wearing a [[Homsar]] shirt.
*On the July 12, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira commented on a dragon tattoo saying that "It's almost Trogdor."
*On the July 20, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira mentioned that "the robots cannot beat the Trogdor."
*On the June 12, 2006 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira commented on a show saying the character got "Burninated by the great Trogdor"

== Buffy the Vampire Slayer ==
[[Image:chosen164.jpg|thumb|Trogdor vs. Scoobies]]
In the series finale of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Ep. 722) Trogdor was used as a creature in a game of Dungeons & Dragons.

=== Transcript ===
:'''GILES:''' I'm — I'm — I'm all turned around. You're here?

:'''XANDER:''' By the pillar, yeah. I'm protecting this area.

:'''GILES:''' That puts me over by the door. Demons around the perimeter. Right! I open the door.

:''{Pan over to show Andrew is also at the table, but he's wearing a red hooded cloak.}''

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{reading from a book}'' You go through the door and are confronted by Trogdor the Burninator.

:'''GILES:''' Oh, bugger it. Fight. ''{rolls dice, sips wine}''

:'''ANDREW:''' Adios to 5 hit points. Trogdor has badly wounded you.

:'''GILES:''' Well, wait a minute. What about my... ''{puts on glasses}'' bag of illusions?

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{scoffs}'' Illusions against a Burninator? Silly, silly British man. ''{Giles sips his wine again.}''

:'''AMANDA:''' I invoke a time flux on Trogdor.

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{looks at Amanda}'' Step down, girlfriend, you can't just —

:'''AMANDA:''' Ninth level sorcerer, and I carry the emerald chalice. Trogdor is frozen in time. Deal with it.

== Cheat! ==
On one episode of Cheat! on G4TechTV, they mentioned that if you use the random name generator enough times in the Xbox/PC game "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic," Homsar's name will be generated.

== CNN Student News ==
On the December 15, 2004 edition of [http://www.cnn.com/EDUCATION CNN Student News], a short news magazine on CNN Headline news, they had a clip of a soldier in Iraq receiving a Kick The Cheat toy for Christmas.

== Codename: Kids Next Door ==
In the episode Operation: TRAINING, Numbuh 60 says "To the moooooooon!" exactly like drunk Strong Bad, before flying to the moon.

== d'FUSED ==
On the March 12th episode of ''d'FUSED'', a segment on Red Vs. Blue showed the cast of Homestar Runner in their real-world, plastic figurine state atop the preview monitor for a Red Vs. Blue episode.

== Filter ==
This tech review show asks viewers to send in their favorite websites, but there were three websites that they did not want people submitting anymore. Homestar Runner.com was ranked #3 with 166 submissions, Red vs. Blue was #2, and Runescape was #1.

== Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends ==
[[Image:Bloostar.PNG|thumb|100px|This speaks for itself.]]
*During the episode "Bloo's Brothers" a Bloo clone that looks freakishly similar to Homestar appears very briefly. This version reappears in a mini-game in "Big Fat Awesome House Party".
*The ending of the episode "A Sight For Sore Eyes" is very similar to [[Old Intro 2]].
*In "Duchess of Wails," there's an orange imaginary friend that looks suspiciously like [[Trogdor]].
*In "Infernal Slumber," both Bloo and Goo talk about killer Possums and they drag the word out much like in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] (Goo says it exactly like Strong Bad).

== G4tv.com ==
*On [http://www.g4tv.com/g4tv/episodes/3888/Men_are_from_World_of_Warcraft_Woman_are_From_The_Sims.html this episode] of G4tv.com on G4, an unnamed person, playing the role of Laura Foy's date, was seen wearing a "[[Trogdor (character)|Trogdor]]" shirt. The video clip, entitled Gamer Dating Do's And Don'ts is now available for viewing at [http://www.g4tv.com/mediaplayer/index.aspx?video_key=9033 this location.]
*In a commercial for [http://www.g4tv.com/cinematech Cinematech], the title of [[Peasant's Quest]] is seen very briefly.

== The Geek Show ==
On ''[http://www.thegeekshow.com/ The Geek Show]'', Strong Bad Emails are frequently shown as an example of "What's funny on the internet." They have played "[[japanese cartoon]]", "[[dullard]]", "[[theme party]]" and "[[Strong Bad Sings]]" on their show.

==Global News ==
On one report on the show, the reporters were interviewing a girl wearing a Strong Sad T-Shirt.

== Junkin' ==
On the television show ''[http://www.turnersouth.com/network/shows/junkin/ Junkin']'', the host "Dave" has appeared wearing Trogdor and Strong Bad T-shirts.

== Late Show with David Letterman ==
On the [[Wikipedia: The Late Show with David Letterman|Late Show with David Letterman]], in one of their specials, they had "phil'd" on one of the answers.

== Live at Five ==
On January 31 2006, on Live at Five (Atlantic Canadian 5 o'clock news), there was a segment about chronic pain caused by computer usage that featured a group of kids watching [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] on the computer.

== Mad Labs ==
In the sound episode, they asked a question to a boy with a red The Cheat shirt.
== Maya and Miguel ==
At the end of an episode, when they interview real people, a kid was seen wearing a Strong Bad hoodie.

== Megas XLR ==
In an episode called "Breakout", Coop tried to use an attack called Double Deuce by jumping and putting two fists in front of him.

== Monster House ==
In an episode of ''Monster House'' called "[http://www.tvtome.com/MonsterHouse/season1.html#ep18 Sports House]," the host, Steve, is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt during the introductions. This episode first aired February 2, 2004.
In the Christmas House episode, a group of 'carolers' from across the neighborhood sings for the people living in the house. One girl is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt.

== New York Noise ==
The entire video for [[Experimental Film]] was shown.

== NFL Films: Game of the Week ==
About three quarters through this hour-long recap of the game, a Falcons' victory, one of the defensive linemen for Atlanta, Patrick Kerney, points to his family in the stands. One of them is holding up a sign that says "GOOD JORB!", an unmistakable reference to [[Coach Z]].

== Pulse ==
In early 2004, the show Pulse on G4TechTV featured an interview with the Brothers Chaps in which they were asked about the new game that they are developing for the Atari 2600. They showed many video clips of their Atari game. The Chaps talked about how they record their voices and how successful they have been. They announced that later in the year they planned to release a DVD with the first hundred emails. After the commercial break, the hosts interviewed the company that is developing the Homestar Runner game, Videlectrix, which was really just one of the Brothers Chaps wearing a fake moustache.

== The Replacements ==
In the episode with the giant blue robot, it plays the dangeresque theme song when it switched scenes at one part.

== Ripley's Believe it or Not! ==
In a segment talking about painted [[Wikipedia: Silicon Chip|silicon computer chips]], one of the examples shown has [[Strong Bad]] painted on it.

== The Screen Savers ==
*An episode of The Screen Savers on G4TechTV featured a guest who is making a [[Homestar Runner RPG]] for the Atari 2600, which is still in development.
*The [http://www.g4techtv.com/screensavers/episodes/3848/Home_Star_Runner_eXeem_LA_Auto_Show.html January 24th episode] of The Screen Savers had [[The Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005|an interview]] with [[The Brothers Chaps]]. In this episode, puppet Strong Bad made his debut to answer questions from fans. The article also mentions that in order to learn more than one ever thought possible about [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]], one can head over to the Homestar Runner Wiki.

== Still Standing ==
On the fireplace mantle in the living room, there is what appears to be a homemade version of a Marzipan puppet. The only difference is that her dress is a lighter, more pink color, and the trim ribbons on it are purple. The Marzipan-doll is particularly noticeable in the Episode 6 ("Still Cheering," in which Brian joins the football team and then becomes a cheerleader), during the scene when Bill and Brian are rehearsing cheer routines.

== Survivor: Pearl Islands ==
When Ryan Shoulders picks up some tree mail (the show's system of getting messages to the castaways), he sings the opening to SB Email [[techno]], singing it as "the tree mail, the tree mail, what, what, the tree mail."

== Test the Nation ==
One of the persons on the Gamers team on the 2006 version of the New Zealand version of this quiz show is wearing a Strong Bad t-shirt.

== The Tonight Show with Jay Leno ==
Leno was showing examples of absurd eBay auctions and having the audience guess whether they sold or not. One of them was a laptop that had been shot with a shotgun. Its subject line said "LIKE USED! SLIGHTLY SHOTGUNNED!" like the tags on the similarly shotgunned Compy at the end of [[virus]]. It sold.

== WonderShowzen ==
In an episode of "Wondershowzen," a puppet named Chauncey, in one of many skits, informed the number Two that if she didn't stop talking, he would 'puke his pants,' as [[Coach Z]] threatened in [[secret recipes]]. Number Two proceeded to leave the screen.

== X-Play ==
*On an episode of G4TechTV's ''X-Play'', the wrestling game "WWE: Day of Reckoning" is reviewed. To demo the "create your own wrestler" mode, the reviewers create a wrestler that looks suspiciously like Strong Bad, and appears to be named "ESSBEE".
*On the August 27, 2006 episode of ''X-Play'' Adam Sessler references "[[anything|a neverending bottle of Mountain Dew]]".
*On the November 21st Episode of ''X-Play'', they reviewed Guitar Hero 2, and showcased the song "TROGDOR!", an actual unlockable track in the game.
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Talk:Captain's Hat

Elvis — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:07:10 GMT

Elvis:

Umm...it's a hat. Why do we need this? --[[User:Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] 06:55, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think it is kinda pointless, but after all, there is pretty much unlimited space on the wiki, so i think we might as well keep it. I dunno. It seems cool.--[[User:Bubsty|'''''Bubsty''''']]

There isn't unlimited space. Remember all those 509s?
[[User:Choco|Choco]] 14:18, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry, I said that when I was stupid. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:54, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

The captain's hat looks like a white version of Skipper's from Gilligan's island.[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 01:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Logo redesign 2006

Elvis — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:01:02 GMT

Elvis: /* FCUSA Puzzle */

==Proposed logo discussions==
This is the discussion section for [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006|the 2006 logo proposals]]. Please address the logos in the section with the matching heading title. Click on the heading title to view the logo to which it refers. Please keep comments about logos civil and friendly; you can say you don't like a logo without instigating contention.

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]]===
The strengths of this design are its simplicity and its connection with the [[Intro]]. Aside from its slightly older style, one possible weakness is that by featuring only Homestar, it suggests that he is representative of the H*R body of work as a whole, which over time has grown to revolve around other characters equally or more (well, Strong Bad). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:<s>[http://www.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/wikihrlogo_new.png This one] seems to be just the ticket to me, though I'd like it even more if pixel by pixel the only thing that changed was Homestar. Maybe I'm just too used to the current design. I ''do'' still want the character's latest design in there instead of one that's a year or two old though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)</s>
::It ''is'' the latest design, only drawn differently. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, so it is. Never mind then. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:What makes this one so strong, and what I think we need to keep in mind with whatever we choose is that it is a logo, it is simple recognizable and easily connected to what it represents. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm kinda tired of this one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't see what's wrong with our current logo. It still looks good and works well. I'd personally like to keep it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I see nothing wrong with it either, but I also want a change of pace. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I am very sorry - I like many of the submissions I see, I mean, they're all really great. But the current one is the best of them all. If we didn't have a logo now, I'd pick the one we have now. '''''BUT''''' in my opinion, one of the other logos that have been suggested for this wiki would be great to replace the one over at the fanstuff wiki!! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Almost Everybody|Almost Everybody]]===
Somebody said they wanted more characters in the logo. I think it was Trey. So I put some more in there as silhouettes in the background. I think it's a very professionally done styled logo. I like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Homestar look a bit off. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Petty attempts at flaming someone else for disliking your logo aren't really smiled upon. Honest, tactful opinions only, please. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like the two side silhouettes but I'd take out whoever is in the middle. Can't see him anyway. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Lapper, to my knowledge Trogga hasn't made any logos, so far only bleedorange and I have {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::He did the Encyclopedia Style logo above.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::1. I didn't criticize his logo just because he didn't like mine, and 2. that ''was'' honest, tactful opinion. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, no, of course not. Let me find that edit summary... ah, here we are. "It's my turn to bash YOUR logo!" Let me know what you think is "honest and tactful". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::That wasn't meant to be taken seriously... --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::FYI, sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That wasn't sarcasm. (OK, I'll stop.) --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I actually like this logo, but can't you fix Homestar? Especially his eyes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::There's actually no difference between this Homestar and the others in my other logos, it's the same one. I've been working with the same PSD file all along. The reason it appears like it to you, most likely, is because the image is surrounded by white. Due to the fact that the logo is darker than most the others. If you copy and paste it into a darker bordered surrounding, it wouldn't look that way as much. Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about because I didn't change him at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I see. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about the characters in the background, I understand the desire to include more of "what H*R.com is about," but I see this as not being inclusive of the universe while leaning towards becoming too busy to be a LOGO for the wiki - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Blury. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good concept, and looks pretty sweet. I wouldn't mind this logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::It's blurry on purpose, foreground in focus, background out concept. Not my favorite, I personally vote against this one and I made it! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Basement|Basement]]===
For reasons stated [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], I don't really think SB's basement is really the place to put Homestar Runner. It's more his domain than Homestar's. Which is why I think this logo wouldn't work.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Wiki logo basement 2.png|just a thought]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Nah, I think if any other character is going to be on the logo, then Homestar should too.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::The logo will have to have Homestar on it. There's no way around it. He's the guy.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::If this wasn't "named" basement I think it would take less flack, as this is the design on the walls of TBC's office. I mean it is much of what a logo should be, simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and well connected to what it represents. The patern of this wall is very well recognized as something conected to H*R.com while at the same time showing that this is a seperate entitity from anything TBC created - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Black Background|Black Background]]===
:I like this one head and shoulders above the others, it has a professional look that an encyclopedia should have, and I really like the logo in the background which I feel better represents the H*R universe than any forced inclusion of other characters. Again like "basement" it is simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and easily connected to what it represents - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 18:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think the black background would go well with this white and colorful website. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]===

:I kind of enjoy this. Not to much of a change, like the Full Body one. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one a lot too, except I think the word "WIKI" should be flattened a bit so that the "W" doesn't look so, pointy. That or maybe a new font entirely (altho this one works well).--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, awexome, though the font could change. {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I like this one the best! — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:17, 18 November 2006
:::::I like this one, but I think it would be cool if this was combined with the full bodied one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 05:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::DING! You win! I'm glad to see an update of the current logo that's not so bright it actually kind of hurts my eyes in a sitting too close to the TV with the lights off kind of way. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)'''EDIT:''' Though the font still ought to be Bauhaus. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Edit Link|Edit Link]]===
- This idea is supposed to encapsulate some of the idea behind the wiki: a transition between [[The Field]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg the wiki background] (I wanted it to be a smooth, blended transition from the colored field to the washed out grayscale background, but I don't have the tools) and the [edit] link you see on wiki section headings. Needs some cleanup though, if it's going to be usable. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

:Until I read this, I thought that Homestar was standing in a spot right next to [[The King of Town's Castle]] (grass to stone). It just looked like that to me upon first glance, and I wouldn't have given it a second thought if I didn't read this. I think the sudden change is a bit disorientating. If you blended it, however, it might be a smoother logo. Pardon the pun. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::This is definitely the best concept I've seen yet, no doubt. It symbolizes the wiki greatly, but somehow I can't see this becoming a recognizable logo. Maybe it's just the sudden change that strikes me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a neat idea, but people wouldn't probably get it when they came here for the first time. They'd wonder why Homestar is next to the KOT's castle with Edit written no the wall. lol. I still like the concept, but I can't think of a good way to do it in a small image and it still be a good logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Could you create a mock-up of how this would look if actually applied to the main page? Because I have some slight doubts that it would produce the desired effect. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I can't see this working at all, I understand the idea and it's good as an idea, but as a logo it doesn't seem to fit. Nor does it give recognizeable branding to the site. Very low on my list - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Encyclopedia|Encyclopedia]]===
A bit plain, but symbolizes the idea of a H*R encyclopedia/wiki. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I definitely don't like this idea at all. Text as a logo?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I was going to add Homestar, but MS Paint wouldn't let me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I, also, disagree with the use of this logo. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I still kinda like logo, mainly for text I've chosen. Feel free to improve the idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think anyone would get that it was supposed to be an encyclopedia. They would just see text and go, "what's that supposed to be." Logos are generally visual. I don't like it because I can't think of a way that this would be appealing.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I was tryin' make a logo like [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page Wiktionary]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I get that one because it uses a pronunciation key (or whatever you call it)... and varying font sizes, etc. Yours just looks like a paragraph from a book. But either way, even if it looked better I don't like the idea. Personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think the Wiktionary logo is pretty bland. Not what I would have chosen for something as exciting as the HRWiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Hang on. This might be cool in the background behind Homestar... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Even with Homestar, I think it's going to be too busy and not representitive enough to be a logo, but I'm willing to wait and see - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree. As a logo alone, it's quite bland, and as a background, it would be distracting. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Text woldn't work. 1.) It's boring. 2.) It wouldn't look right on this backround 3.) it makes no sense. Why couldn't you just put words as the logo. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Having the words as the background isn't such a bad idea. It might be a little distracting, but it might not be as distracting if the words are in faint print. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It would look bad also because Homestar is white and the background is white... a "wash out effect" would happen. It's not a very interesting idea, IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't like this logo at all it would look like part of the page not a logo for the page.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 22:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I never really intended this logo to be a real logo; I just wanted to present my idea for a logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Everybody Everybody|Everybody, Everybody]]===
I made this one fairly quickly, it could use some better-looking text. Ideas, comments? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Very good! WAy better than I could do. So... cool. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It has potential. But like you said, look for some better text. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Seems a little bright to me, might not match with the current background. But as Lapper said, it does have potential. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I really am quite against featuring EVERY major character on the logo. I just think it makes it cluttered plus it's hard to do in a 150x150 spaced area and still look good. They're SO TINY on that image that you can barely see them. To bring them closer where you CAN see them makes it that much harder to put them ALL in there. Do you see where I'm going with this? Homestar by himself or with say the second leading character (Strong Bad) is about as much into this kind of idea of multiple characters as I think we need to get. Because really, it's not like people visiting here are going to not know there are more characters. TBC don't have every character on their main intro page, and the website IS Homestar Runner.com after all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, Homsar's not in it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:I have nothing against trying to get more characters into the logo (although I'm against making Strong Bad central), but I agree with BleedOrange that the chances of anything simular to this actually making it so that it's clear and recognizable is slim at best, so with so many options, I vote no to this one fo'sure fo'sure - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#FCUSA Puzzle|FCUSA Puzzle]]===
The logo is a renderation of the wikipedia logo with Free Country on it. It signifies that we continueously build on the Homestar Runner World. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:The logo itself isn't bad (but not great either), but I am a bit disturbed by the idea that we "build" on the world of Homestar Runner, because while we look inside that world at things deeper, we're not really adding to the world TBC created in any way really. As far as the logo goes, I like the idea, the logo itself isn't that simple though, or really all that clear. But it is a good general idea for a design focus. The other thing is I'm not entirely sure that using the globe puzzle, a logo should make a "brand" (in this case the site) distinctive from other simular sites, so thats my view on this. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not saying that we're adding to the world of Homestar Runner, I'm saying that as the Homestar Runner universe expands, we add onto the wiki, building on the information of the world of Homestar Runner as more things are divulged. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok. Makes more sense to me now. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think you should cut out Homestar and the background and put Homestar Runner WikI under it and it'll look like Wikipedia. --[[User:Gert7|Gert7]] 08:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::As Ilko said, we don't want top connect our identity too much to another website. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I really like the "cleanliness" of this logo. The strong black lines around the globe and the kamikaze bg. Although I think it's a little odd of the placement of homestar's head and the font. I still like it and with some work it could be better. I do agree that using the puzzle concept still connects us strongly to wikipedia... and it probably would require (maybe) their permission as well.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think there's too much going on in this one. It's also too close to the Wikipedia logo for my taste.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I agree; too 'busy'. Nice try though. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 01:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Field|Field]]===
I kind of like this one...and the field is a good background for the logo. What about Homestar, SB, and maybe one or two others gathered around the stick? Or maybe that would be too cluttered. Hmm.... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This isn't bad, but the field seems a little non-specific for a logo. Not first place in my book - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think this would be my favorite if it had the kamikaze background. But I see there could be a problem with the lines converging. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like having The Field as a background. It's a good general representation of the H*R universe. One of my favorites right here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad|Homestar and Strong Bad]]===
:This is a pretty good concept: I like the inclusion of Strong Bad as well as Homestar, since both are equally central to the Homestar Runner body of work. If we end up liking this design, there are some small suggestions I could make, but as an overall design I think it shows great promise. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Not to into this. I like the idea. But not this logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's cool. BUT I don't don't like the blinking. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The thing I don't like is the font. Dark on dark? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:Too too much Strong Bad focus along with color and font issues. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field|Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field]]===
I liked the idea above, but not the logo itself. So I put them in the field. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like a lot of things about this: I like the inclusion of both SB and HR, the foreground/background juxtaposition, and the classic setting of The Field. In my mind, this is a strong candidate. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's a very nice logo. I'm using it on my monobook right now. I increased the brightness so it blended better with the Wiki. It looks pretty good on my 'puter and I think it has a lot going for it. Features the two main characters in a classic and common setting for the toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm still happy with the original, but of the prospective future logos, this one is my favorite. Simple but effective. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Also my favorite... I like Homestar coming in from the side, and I love Strong Bad's pose. Excellent. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Very professional looking. Not my personal favorite, but one of my favorites. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking over them all this ''might'' (I'm not sure) be my favorite. It 1) doesn't have just Homestar, 2) has Strong Bad, and 3) looks, well, logolike. I can't quite explain that, but it has a certain logociousness that, say, Weclome Back doesn't. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with AbdiViklas. This logo looks ''very'' professional and a lot like a logo. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 01:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one's my favorite and Official Logo Homestar gets second place. This design really does look professional, unlike some that would be more appropriate for the informal fanstuff wiki. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 13:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:While I do think this is above average as a logo for the site (in that it is pretty clean and recognizeable), I don't like that it seems to focus on Strong Bad with Homestar seeming to interupt him, if we go with anything with both involved (which I am very against anywho) it should have Homestar at center and Stongbad in the background and mostly out of frame. Also I think Homestar should have his mouth closed in any logo design, it's just more professional. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::While I hear what you're saying, I'm not sure I understand it: Why do you feel so strongly that it should be just Homestar, or Homestar-centric? (Um, aside from the fact that it's called the "Homestar Runner Wiki", I supppose.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::There are a few ways to look at it: 1) if this is your first experience with the world of Homestar Runner, you would expect the character at the center of the logo to be Homestar Runner. 2) We are Homestar Runner Wiki, and not Homestar and Strong Bad Wiki, while Strong Bad is important to the H*R universe, he is not the "focus" of the site 3) Our logo and thus our "brand" has been Homestar-centric, and thus to remove him from the focus really changes our "brand" and I'm not sure thats needed.
All of this is comes back to the same thing you said, our name is Homestar Runner Wiki, and our logo should represent either the entirety of the website, or the character for which the site we're a wiki about was named. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:To me, it looks more like Strong Bad's in the background, while Homestar is closer to the viewer. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar in Front of Logo|Homestar in Front of Logo]]===
This is a simple redesign, but design is different than others in a way that its so unoriginal, its original. Think about it.--{{User:Strong Devon/sig}}01:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:Thought about it. No, I don't like it. Not clean enough or clear enough to be a recognizable branding (logo) for the wiki. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar STAR|Homestar STAR]]===
A cool idea I had. I can do lots of things with this idea, but this is the general concept. He could blink, the star's contrast could be less... his could be more... etc. etc. I accidently flattened a layer while making it, so it was impossible to further change the star's outline. So I'd have to redo it if it was picked to change that part... that or edit a new outline over the current. Anyway. Here's the concept. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:My initial reaction is I like it alot as is. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

::I like this one a lot. I think this, Kamikaze Full Boyd, World or the Current Updated are the best designs. While I'm still trying to figure out my top favorite, this is definitely one of them.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Jokestar Runner|Jokestar Runner]]===

It's dot Joey! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:This logo would be perfect! Unfortunately, I don't think we could get permission to use that picture from TBC ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::Since when do we ask TBC for persmission to use pictures? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually. that's the next project after the logo redesign: send TBC individual emails about each image on the wiki asking for their permission to use them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Funny! Funny. That...is a joke, right? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 01:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yep — it's a joke :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Have TBC given any indication that they want us to do that? If they email one of you and said that they'd prefer for us to get permission to use their images, then ok, we respect their wishes. But since we've been at this for half a decade and if they haven't complained, then I would consider it a severe annoyance to email them about every image. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 02:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::See above :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, we've only been at this for three years. Point still taken, though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Kamikaze Full Body|Kamikaze Full Body]]===
This is like the idea with the logo but without. It's my personal favorite. I think it is the best example of what the new logo should be like. Similar to before but with a refreshing twist.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:If this section symbolizes [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|18, 24, and 25]] as a whole, I vote for No Logo Homestar style. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah that's what I meant for this section to symbolize.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Then yeah, all for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I really like this one. Simple, but updated. Not too much going on, but newer.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 05:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heck yeah! [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|24]] is my favorite. I think this is the style we should go with, personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::This version of the logo is my personal fave. The old background with the new Homestar. Because he's what the site is all about and don't you forget it! If you try to bring other character to the logo, some (like me) will complain why you left out that other character. Blinking or not, I don't care. but I want '''this one'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Would prefer a more strait redesign of the current if we went this route, but it's ok - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I almost like this one. The only thing I dislike is the white outline around Homestar. It's too thick. I would like it is it were fading into the blue like the current logo. Also, I dislike the crampedness of the words "Homestar Runner". Maybe if Homestar were further down a little, and the words were a little bigger. I don't know. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Between this one and the current one, I think the current one is better. It's simpler, more visible, and Homestar looks (and is) more intelligent with his mouth closed. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with all others who have this as their favorite. It's a subtle, yet powerful change that is just what this wiki needs. It keeps the simplicity of the old logo, but with a twist. Pretty awesome. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree as well. This logo is just what everyone is used to, but updated.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}}
::::::::::This one's definitely my favourite too. I've got it set as my logo in [[User:Loafing/monobook.css]] for over a week now, and I'm pretty happy with it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be much disapproval for this logo. I still think it's better than any of the others. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:Argh, the white blur! It burns my eyes! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I fixed the lines behind Homestar. They are no longer crooked.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

====Kamikaze Full Body Blurred====
I decided to make the background out of focus. Here's what it looks like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:I think this is quite a bit better than the regular Kamikaze Full Body. I'll go for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::It's okay, but can you please lessen the white glow around Homestar? Make it less intense, like the current logo. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I like this one. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Lappy|Lappy]]===
This one is interesting and the lettering is pretty nice, I think, but the animation will probably lose it's novelty after a while and annoy some users. I have nothing against animation (like homestar blinking) but not as constant as this. Maybe a static version could be used? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't like the cursor blinking either. But I do like the concept. I can make strong bad in it too ya know. It's just the idea. I can take away/add to it. It's best to leave it as one character though, for the reasons that this image is too small for too much more to be going on in it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Good concept, the design as a whole doesn't seem to quite hit me as a "recognizeable logo" but it's again something that could be worked with I think, better than alot of options in my eyes, but still not the best - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::The blinking is kind of distracting. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agreed. To me, all the animations are distracting. A simple and easy to remember logo is what I'm going for. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Weighed against the other (and now better) ideas. I don't like this one much anymore. Blinking, stationary or uhh.. blinking. It's nice, but not nice enough to be the WIKI logo IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I like the concept, and the design but it's too... non-logoish (as stated by Ilko). Still, it's well done.[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo Homestar|Official Logo Homestar]]===
Summarizing the objections from [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], including the official logo in ours may cross an ethical boundary. Despite this, I think this is an example of a way to broaden the scope of our logo from Homestar the character to the Homestar Runner body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:The black one above, does a better job of being a logo for the wiki, as I concur that this makes us seem a little too connected to H*R.com and TBC.
::I would like it better if the logo was in front of Homestar. With him in front, it's hard to read what the logo says. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::His star is supposed to be replacing the one in the logo, if I'm getting this right. Instead of this: h*r It's this: h/*\r Get it? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|Official Logo with Green Wiki]]===
Looks GWEAT. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:A branding issue with this one. Makes us seem way too connected with the official world of Homestarrunner.com. We need to be sure to keep our brand distinct from TBCs as while this site wouldn't exist otherwise, we are completely seperate and not connected in any way, thus our logo needs to represent that. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I just don't see how using the official logo in our logo is any different than using Homestar in our logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::A definition of a logo(edited from Wikipedia): "A logo is a graphic element or icon of a trademark or brand. A typical logo is designed to cause immediate recognition by the viewer. The logo's shapes, colors, fonts and images are usually different from others in a similar market." Thus to use the official logo of Homestarrunner.com as the main focus of our logo is to give the impression that we are part of that brand, which we are not. This is also part of the reason I think we shouldn't stray too far from the logo we already have (Homestar-centric as someone called it). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Very well put.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
This, is, actually the ''first'' suggested logo change, taken from [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 2]] at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]'s request. I think it's well crafted. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'll concur that this is a GREAT logo, everything I'd want in a logo if it was my company (simple, easily identifiable, very well connected to the subject represented, presenting a positive and professional image.) Yet, the branding issue is a major problem, there's unfortunately (at least in my mind) no real way to get around it, to make enough changes to avoid potential trademark infringement (or at least intellectual property infringement if it's not a trademarked logo) we'd be cheapening our brand to that of a cheap rip-off of an original (see lots of store brand sodas or "fake" watches and jewelry brands.) Also I stand by the fact that to move too far from what the logo we've got now is not just changing our logo, but rebranding our entire effort, which I do not see as being something we need right now. (If we had changed our mission or our way of operating or something else then yes, we should look at rebranding ourselves, but we haven't.) As is, the only reason to update the wiki logo seems to be that we want to modernize to better represent the subject of the site and just to look more "current" with the times. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I won't mention the H*R logo problem. We've heard plenty of that. But I will say that I definitely don't like the green "Wiki" font. For some reason, the green with the red and blue or the regular H*R logo makes me think of this logo like a kid's toy or something. I just don't like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think I definitely like this one best. Less is more. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}
Can't put my finger on it, but there's just something about this one I like and dislike at the same time (sorry, wasting space) [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

=== [[HRwiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old Homestarrunner|Old Homestar]] ===
I made this logo with paint (so excuse me for the bad picture) of the Old Homestarrunner standing next to a light green oval with the text HRWiki and standing in front of a white background. - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]

:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!]] No. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::To be less blunt than The Mu, it needs work. Lots and lots of work. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 18:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old New Star|Old New Star]]===
I'm not sure how much this crosses the boundaries of too much. But I thought it'd be kind of neat if the logo could switch back and forth between the original design for Homestar and the current. The one in the example above is set for 15 second intervals. But I made a [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew30.gif 30 second] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew60.gif 60 second] one as an example. The 15 second is just so you don't have to wait around forever to see it. The 30 or 60 is the actual timer I think it should have. Most people would see it as it is. Just a regular logo, those who stick around for awhile might notice it changed. They'd be like, wait a second... wasn't that a diff. Homestar? It will loop back and forth every 30 or 60 seconds from the original design to the current. It's not a very big file size either. Only around 20 kb.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the still image of Homestar (current) in front of the old star, but I don't like the animation. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::No matter what is decided, I think that this will deserve a paragraph in [[A_History|our history]] once we all decide. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I basically copied the way TBC animated it. So, uhm, what are you saying man! You don't like TBC's animation!?! lol. And yeah, this is pretty historical. Err, hysterical. Hysterically long.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::TBC rarely morph between Homestars if ever. I don't like the looking of going from old to new, it looks rough and abrupt. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Go look at Strongest Man in the world... that's where it's from. I did take out two frames of the animation to get file size down, but otherwise I did it exactly how they did. It doesn't have to be animated either. This is a '''DESIGN IDEA''', it's for the design itself, not just the animation. I can make it stationary too. I kind of like it more stationary anyway. Although I had to animate it. You say TBC never morph between them, but that's not the point. The point is that it morphs between them so sometimes it's the original design and sometimes it is not. It's supposed to be abrupt. I could make it .. fade.. into the other but I promise that wouldn't look as good. How do YOU think it should be animated if you don't like it. Got any ideas? :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 16:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Now I made another version where he just blinks (NO MORPHING)... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hsnewstar_blinks.gif stationary - just blinks]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 17:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Bleed, you really don't need to get this defensive. You are doing some fine work here but not everyone is going like everything that you do. As I stated above, I like this one stationairy like the link that you post immediately above. Keep up the good work. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not a big fan of the multi-homestar options, we're an encylopedia, not just a history textbook, also this one strikes me as a little too much like something that would be on the website, and we should keep arms length from that in my mind. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:: First of all, IRF, I'm NOT getting defensive. I don't know what you got out of what i said, but I didn't take offense. I wanted it to be CLEAR that this is an idea for a logo and it does not have to morph, blink or do anything at all than be a stationary image. Which is why I pointed out "design idea," and I could go on defending what I said but the point is I wasn't offended at all. I asked how he thought it should be animated because I'd actually like to hear some new ideas if you don't like something. Don't just say, oh well I don't like this... why not say what you would like as well? Anything I say on here is me trying to make clear either WHY I did something one way or that it's just an IDEA and I welcome more. Or I wouldn't continue to keep making logos. And, Skev, I don't see a reason why we should keep away from something that would be on the website. Just because Homestar is standing in front of a star isn't a big deal. I could have him stand in front of a field, kamikaze blue rays or a million other things... but it will all be derived from something on the site. The current logo is like something you would see on the site. So that's my thoughts on this. Oh and I also made a transparent version of the logo. See [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/star.gif this link here for transparent version of the logo]. That's it for now!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I changed the animation, it's a lil smoother now. I think. 20 second interval.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Once again, the animation could be distracting. I'm all in favor of a still image, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]]===
This is an interesting logo. You can't really see the characters underneath the puzzle design, which only represents one part of the wiki (the lots of different article "pieces" part). So it's overshadowing the main concept here, even though I must admit that the logo itself looks really awesome. Oh, and I [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_15#Just_Kinda_Wonderin.27...| totally called the slogan]]. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 16:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think this one's pretty cool, and very professional-looking. The only flaw is that it's a little hard to see the details on the pieces when it's logo-sized... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one as a logo, but due to the problems mentioned above, it should not be the main branding logo of the site, if we were a company, I would highly recomend this as a secondary informal logo (for backgrounds, stationary, art, immaging) , so as much as I LOVE this one in every way shape and form, for our purposes, *sigh* - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Running Intro|Running Intro]]===

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Then and Now|Then and Now]]===
I like this particular new idea because... quite honestly, it's going to be very hard to get multiple characters with-in the small logo and have them large enough to visibly see in a nice way. Homestar is, technically, the main character and alone can represent the toon itself... which is why he is on the main pages on the official site. This idea shows how far H*R has come from old to new, and is themed around the original book. Which is always nice. :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like that one, except It seems a little simplistic. Maybe the Homestars could be moved up a little, and have the lettering the same as either the one we have now, the star themed one, or the darker outline one? {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I could do that. But I was trying to copy the way TBC actually did it on the book. I could make it show all of both Homestar's bodies.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think maybe we could do half old half new (i.e. the old field and homestar on one side new field and homestar on the other)? Just a thought.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Don't think much of this both for the reasons mentioned in the "field" and in "then and now" - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like it. But, I don't like the possition of "the homestar runner wiki." {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Weclome Back|Weclome Back]]===
One aspect that I like about this one is that by including multiple characters, it better represents that this is the Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon) Wiki, and not the Homestar Runner (character) Wiki. I'm interested in seeing other logos that incorporate multiple characters or perhaps just Homestar and Strong Bad. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink2.gif blinkage style]--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::If Homestar is blinking, shouldn't Marzi blink too? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Marzi does blink.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink.gif I like this one the best.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This is too busy for a logo, it isn't something that will be easily connected to the wiki itself in my mind, and it's just really busy. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::What do mean "busy?" --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/busy "Full of distracting detail"], probably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::This one's pretty good, except the text is kinda hard to read. Other than that, good logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just to clear things up, I'm pretty sure the [[The King Of Town|KOT]], [[Marzipan|Marzi]], and [[Homestar]] all blink in this logo. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::The King never blinks. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I swear I saw his eyes move...--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Wiki_Globe|Wiki Globe]]===
I realize that I am not the best graphic designer in the world, but I think that the general idea comes across. The faces need a little bit more work to "sync" better with the globe, and Homestar's face may need to be a little more prominent. Besides that, this is pretty much the concept. I'm not sure if the Wikipedia logo can be used like this, but I don't see why not. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:While it's a nice idea, this would make us look affiliated with 'Kipedia. Some folks are already confusing us as it is, and I don't think we should enforce that perception. I strongly prefer an independent logo of our own.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::In answer to your last sentence, Ation, this kind of falls under the discussions above about using the H*R logo as part of our own. (I.e. might not be okay, and even if it's okay, maybe not desirable.) Although I wouldn't be nuts about this as a logo, I ''do'' think it's awesome. (This, by the way, is what I immediately thought of when I saw "Puzzle".) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::On the subject of whether this would be allowed, I suggest you look at [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] – though that was about [[:Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], and we'd have to ask them again if we chose this logo, I expect we'd get a similar response. Personally, I agree with Loafing, the line between us and Wikipedia already seems muddied enough, to new users... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agree with the above comments. Nonetheless, it does look really cool! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:In addition to the Wikipedia issues, we are not Strong Bad Wiki. You're not doing any favors to first time visitors with this one. We need to make sure the logo represents what we're about to someone with no idea who we are (or maybe even Homestar is). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I made some changes to the logo. Mostly, changes the globe from Strong Bad's head to Homestar's hat, rearranged faces, and "coolified the letters". People think it's better or worse? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Much better, but many of the issues from above still are in play - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]===
I made a brand new logo that I think works very well. Everyone's opinion is always different but I like it. For one thing, it incorporates a globe behind Homestar... we're like an encyclopedia to the world about Homestar Runner, many people using the Wiki are from all around the globe. This shows that. It uses the fictional globe in which Free Country, USA exists, so it also doubles as a symbol of the HR world. Homestar is standing there. Obviously. And it stands out from most of the other ideas, the website itself and is very different from the original logo. I made a few different colors for the background. A grey, blue and brown one. I tried other colors and trust me, they don't look as good.
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey.png Grey]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue.png Blue]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Brown.png Brown]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Grey Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue_Bl.gif Blue Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Brown Blinks]
And just in case you are wondering how it would look ON the wiki. I made a GIF image that cycles between them as an example. It's low quality, but it gives you the idea. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/exampleworld.gif Example of Logo on the Wiki Itself]. I am a big fan of either the '''Grey''' or '''Blue''' ones. I don't like the Brown so much. And I'd actually prefer it to be stationary, but I made some that blink too. I could always make the blink times less or more. Anyway, what do you think?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 20:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Due to requests.. I changed the main idea to a lighter colored background. Which I like better too. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/lightergrad.png VIEW UPDATED IDEA HERE]. And if we wanted to change the favicon, it could always be the image of the globe itself without homestar in front of it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::That new one is very cool, although I don't really like how his shadow is going to the right, as if the light is coming from the right. It sort of conflicts with the shadow that TBC already put there. If you removed the spotlight, that would make it perfect. (He's floating a little too. You might want to remove the shadow below him.) I wouldn't really like shading in the logo at all, if nessicary, because you want it to seem like it's looking straight at you. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Per your requests.. I removed the shadow on Homestar (agreed it contradicts the established shadow, though I could move it to the other direction). [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_somechanges.png View Some Changes on the logo]. How's that?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think that it looks great now, nice and slick. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I like it... a lot. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I changed the direction of the shadow, and did one without the shadow... changing the way Homestar faces to being the right. Take a look [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/World_shadowleft.png With Shadow Facing Right] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_noshadow.png Without Shadow Facing Right].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::It still seems a little weird to me with the shadow, now it's conflicting the world's shadow. (Plus, Homestar's a little off center). I do think that the one without the shadow is great. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Corrected some problems with the one where he faces right with no shadow. (I made the other side of the globe darker on accident) [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/facerightnoshad.png View Corrected One Here].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, this gets my vote. It cooooool. It reallyhas nothing to do with the wiki exept for the homestar. But alright. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I love this one. Probably my second favorite. Good representation of the Homestar universe. Not too simple, not too busy. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Can you make Homestar blink in that logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::Having Homestar blink would probably mess up all the awesome gradiants Bleed0range has in there, so it would probably be messy (and impractical) to make him blink. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good point. The awesome gradients of this logo would match the awesome gradients of the Main Page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The Kamikaze full body is no longer my personal fave. This one is definitely my personal favorite of them all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree. This one is very awesome. Except, the gradient mixed with the world's shadow. Maybe getting rid of the world's shadow would help? (Curse those shadows! They always seem to get the best of you!) - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, I think the gradient around the globe is necessary. It makes it look nicer than without. I tried it without and I didn't think it looked very good. The gradient is what helps give the globe a three dimensional feel. Things can have multiple shadows. Getting rid of the world's shadow would be a very difficult photoshop edit that would require a lot lot lot of time and probably not even look very good. I tried increasing the brightness... that didn't work. I'd have to piece it together using like the clone stamp tool or something which... *sigh* would take forever and like I said, probably look awful.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Even with this logo, which looks fine, I still firmly believe in the 18/24/25 version. But then, it's a personal choice that I'm going for minimal change here. I just want to preserve the integrity of our original logo as much as possible, and I don't feel any of these other logos fulfill that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Holy crap this one is way better than the full body logo I totally change my vote to this one like Bleed0range {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 20:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
While I don't see what's wrong with our current logo, this is probably my favorite of the new ones. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This one is very good, and I think it would look awesome with a transparent background (much in the same way [[Wikipedia:Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png|Wikipedia's logo]] lays on top of the page). We can discuss these details more if we end up picking this logo, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
::I do like this one. It does very little to mess with the current branding of the site and organization while updating the logo to something that feels more "modern". It is fairly simple to recognize, exclusive to this site, and makes good conections to what we're about here at the wiki. It makes my top 5 (behind Homestar STAR and Current Updated, and along with Basement and Puzzle) - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, this one has a lot of potential as a transparent logo. It wouldn't even have to be saved as a real transparent GIF or, in its case, alpha-blended PNG (due to the shadow), since its place on the page is static; we can just insert that portion of the page background underneath it and flatten it. But the globe and shadows would have to be tweaked so that the shadows don't "run" outside the 150×150 space allotted. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 21:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with Joshua completely. If the logo must be changed, please let it be to this one. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 23:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one is my favorite. The only thing that I don't like is the font. If we are selecting a new logo, why not a new font? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like this one. It's pretty cool. Though I DO agree that the font needs to be changed....

==<s>Other ideas</s> (submission time expired)==
<s>Do you have a great logo idea but not the graphic design tools to make it yourself? Post your idea here, and someone may try to make it.</s>

Another suggestion, which in no way discounts my support for the current logo with Homestar's current design, is [http://www.hrwiki.org/logoright/logo.php]. Perhaps one of those images? I especially like the one in AhnbergHand. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe A big star in the background with "Homestar Runner" in a arch and "Wiki" in a bowl like shape with Homestar and Strong Bad's Head {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===Favicon===

There have been strong objects to using anything a logo that [[:Image:Logo Redesign Official Logo Homestar.png|resembles]] [[:Image:hrwlogoidea-fixed.png|the]] [[:Image:Logo Redesign Old New Star.gif|offical]] [[:Image:logo.png|Homestar Runner site logo]]. Here is a [[:Image:Official_style_logo.png|screen print]] of the QOTW page. You will notice 4 times where we've used the official h*r logo. #'s 2, 3, and 4 can be argued as legit because they do link the official site, but #1 (the icon at the top which also appears in your bookmarks) doesn't have anything to do with the official but our site. I propose that if so many people feel that we shouldn't be using the h*r logo, we also shouldn't be using it in the address bar of the browser. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, the favicon doesn't stick out as much as the logo, and as you said, the rest are links to the official site. If we adopted the Homestarrunner logo as our logo, I think that that would just be intense copycatting. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::Although I certainly don't see any reason that, once we get done with this, we don't turn our attention to a new favicon. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely. We already addressed this briefly at the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive 7#favicon|original discussion]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:What's a favicon? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::A [[Wikipedia:Favicon|favicon]] is what IRF circled a 1) in his screenshot.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. But that'll probably just change with whatever logo we end up picking, right? What's the use of having a logo and a favicon that look completely different from each other? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I guess that's hard to answer until we've picked one, but the size differences might matter. A favicon has to be able to look good and be recognizable in very small dimensions. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::The favicon has doesn't match our current logo so it doesn't logically follow that it would change too. I think the onyl reason that it would change is all the recent discussion about the official logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It would be, in my opinion, hypocritical not to change the favicon after the discussion about the official logo not being used in the logo. The favicon uses the H*R logo, which, according to many user's opinion's here, would be immoral. If you can't use it in the logo, then you shouldn't be able to associate the official logo with any other part of the Wiki itself, including the favicon. So I think it HAS to be changed if the majority of user's believe you can't use the H*R logo in the Wiki logo. I'd find it hard to argue that point.{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::So everybody stop talking and make something. It need not match whatever we go with for our big logo. Also, we will use variations of it at the fanstuff and forum, so keep that in mind. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Idc, I tried for an hour last friday to find the actual graphic for the favicon, so that I could study it in terms of dimensions, pixel size, and how it look when enlarged. If I could find the graphic file, I would be glad to propose favicons. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::The file is at [http://www.hrwiki.org/favicon.ico favicon.ico] for nearly all websites. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The image displayed by most browsers is 16×16 pixels. Ideas do not need to be in any particular format. We'll handle the technical details of converting it and whatnot. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Logo redesign 2006

Elvis — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:55:02 GMT

Elvis: /* Official Logo with Green Wiki */

==Proposed logo discussions==
This is the discussion section for [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006|the 2006 logo proposals]]. Please address the logos in the section with the matching heading title. Click on the heading title to view the logo to which it refers. Please keep comments about logos civil and friendly; you can say you don't like a logo without instigating contention.

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]]===
The strengths of this design are its simplicity and its connection with the [[Intro]]. Aside from its slightly older style, one possible weakness is that by featuring only Homestar, it suggests that he is representative of the H*R body of work as a whole, which over time has grown to revolve around other characters equally or more (well, Strong Bad). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:<s>[http://www.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/wikihrlogo_new.png This one] seems to be just the ticket to me, though I'd like it even more if pixel by pixel the only thing that changed was Homestar. Maybe I'm just too used to the current design. I ''do'' still want the character's latest design in there instead of one that's a year or two old though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)</s>
::It ''is'' the latest design, only drawn differently. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, so it is. Never mind then. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:What makes this one so strong, and what I think we need to keep in mind with whatever we choose is that it is a logo, it is simple recognizable and easily connected to what it represents. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm kinda tired of this one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't see what's wrong with our current logo. It still looks good and works well. I'd personally like to keep it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I see nothing wrong with it either, but I also want a change of pace. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I am very sorry - I like many of the submissions I see, I mean, they're all really great. But the current one is the best of them all. If we didn't have a logo now, I'd pick the one we have now. '''''BUT''''' in my opinion, one of the other logos that have been suggested for this wiki would be great to replace the one over at the fanstuff wiki!! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Almost Everybody|Almost Everybody]]===
Somebody said they wanted more characters in the logo. I think it was Trey. So I put some more in there as silhouettes in the background. I think it's a very professionally done styled logo. I like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Homestar look a bit off. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Petty attempts at flaming someone else for disliking your logo aren't really smiled upon. Honest, tactful opinions only, please. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like the two side silhouettes but I'd take out whoever is in the middle. Can't see him anyway. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Lapper, to my knowledge Trogga hasn't made any logos, so far only bleedorange and I have {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::He did the Encyclopedia Style logo above.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::1. I didn't criticize his logo just because he didn't like mine, and 2. that ''was'' honest, tactful opinion. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, no, of course not. Let me find that edit summary... ah, here we are. "It's my turn to bash YOUR logo!" Let me know what you think is "honest and tactful". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::That wasn't meant to be taken seriously... --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::FYI, sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That wasn't sarcasm. (OK, I'll stop.) --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I actually like this logo, but can't you fix Homestar? Especially his eyes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::There's actually no difference between this Homestar and the others in my other logos, it's the same one. I've been working with the same PSD file all along. The reason it appears like it to you, most likely, is because the image is surrounded by white. Due to the fact that the logo is darker than most the others. If you copy and paste it into a darker bordered surrounding, it wouldn't look that way as much. Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about because I didn't change him at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I see. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about the characters in the background, I understand the desire to include more of "what H*R.com is about," but I see this as not being inclusive of the universe while leaning towards becoming too busy to be a LOGO for the wiki - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Blury. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good concept, and looks pretty sweet. I wouldn't mind this logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::It's blurry on purpose, foreground in focus, background out concept. Not my favorite, I personally vote against this one and I made it! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Basement|Basement]]===
For reasons stated [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], I don't really think SB's basement is really the place to put Homestar Runner. It's more his domain than Homestar's. Which is why I think this logo wouldn't work.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Wiki logo basement 2.png|just a thought]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Nah, I think if any other character is going to be on the logo, then Homestar should too.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::The logo will have to have Homestar on it. There's no way around it. He's the guy.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::If this wasn't "named" basement I think it would take less flack, as this is the design on the walls of TBC's office. I mean it is much of what a logo should be, simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and well connected to what it represents. The patern of this wall is very well recognized as something conected to H*R.com while at the same time showing that this is a seperate entitity from anything TBC created - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Black Background|Black Background]]===
:I like this one head and shoulders above the others, it has a professional look that an encyclopedia should have, and I really like the logo in the background which I feel better represents the H*R universe than any forced inclusion of other characters. Again like "basement" it is simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and easily connected to what it represents - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 18:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think the black background would go well with this white and colorful website. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]===

:I kind of enjoy this. Not to much of a change, like the Full Body one. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one a lot too, except I think the word "WIKI" should be flattened a bit so that the "W" doesn't look so, pointy. That or maybe a new font entirely (altho this one works well).--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, awexome, though the font could change. {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I like this one the best! — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:17, 18 November 2006
:::::I like this one, but I think it would be cool if this was combined with the full bodied one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 05:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::DING! You win! I'm glad to see an update of the current logo that's not so bright it actually kind of hurts my eyes in a sitting too close to the TV with the lights off kind of way. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)'''EDIT:''' Though the font still ought to be Bauhaus. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Edit Link|Edit Link]]===
- This idea is supposed to encapsulate some of the idea behind the wiki: a transition between [[The Field]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg the wiki background] (I wanted it to be a smooth, blended transition from the colored field to the washed out grayscale background, but I don't have the tools) and the [edit] link you see on wiki section headings. Needs some cleanup though, if it's going to be usable. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

:Until I read this, I thought that Homestar was standing in a spot right next to [[The King of Town's Castle]] (grass to stone). It just looked like that to me upon first glance, and I wouldn't have given it a second thought if I didn't read this. I think the sudden change is a bit disorientating. If you blended it, however, it might be a smoother logo. Pardon the pun. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::This is definitely the best concept I've seen yet, no doubt. It symbolizes the wiki greatly, but somehow I can't see this becoming a recognizable logo. Maybe it's just the sudden change that strikes me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a neat idea, but people wouldn't probably get it when they came here for the first time. They'd wonder why Homestar is next to the KOT's castle with Edit written no the wall. lol. I still like the concept, but I can't think of a good way to do it in a small image and it still be a good logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Could you create a mock-up of how this would look if actually applied to the main page? Because I have some slight doubts that it would produce the desired effect. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I can't see this working at all, I understand the idea and it's good as an idea, but as a logo it doesn't seem to fit. Nor does it give recognizeable branding to the site. Very low on my list - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Encyclopedia|Encyclopedia]]===
A bit plain, but symbolizes the idea of a H*R encyclopedia/wiki. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I definitely don't like this idea at all. Text as a logo?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I was going to add Homestar, but MS Paint wouldn't let me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I, also, disagree with the use of this logo. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I still kinda like logo, mainly for text I've chosen. Feel free to improve the idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think anyone would get that it was supposed to be an encyclopedia. They would just see text and go, "what's that supposed to be." Logos are generally visual. I don't like it because I can't think of a way that this would be appealing.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I was tryin' make a logo like [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page Wiktionary]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I get that one because it uses a pronunciation key (or whatever you call it)... and varying font sizes, etc. Yours just looks like a paragraph from a book. But either way, even if it looked better I don't like the idea. Personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think the Wiktionary logo is pretty bland. Not what I would have chosen for something as exciting as the HRWiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Hang on. This might be cool in the background behind Homestar... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Even with Homestar, I think it's going to be too busy and not representitive enough to be a logo, but I'm willing to wait and see - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree. As a logo alone, it's quite bland, and as a background, it would be distracting. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Text woldn't work. 1.) It's boring. 2.) It wouldn't look right on this backround 3.) it makes no sense. Why couldn't you just put words as the logo. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Having the words as the background isn't such a bad idea. It might be a little distracting, but it might not be as distracting if the words are in faint print. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It would look bad also because Homestar is white and the background is white... a "wash out effect" would happen. It's not a very interesting idea, IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't like this logo at all it would look like part of the page not a logo for the page.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 22:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I never really intended this logo to be a real logo; I just wanted to present my idea for a logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Everybody Everybody|Everybody, Everybody]]===
I made this one fairly quickly, it could use some better-looking text. Ideas, comments? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Very good! WAy better than I could do. So... cool. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It has potential. But like you said, look for some better text. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Seems a little bright to me, might not match with the current background. But as Lapper said, it does have potential. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I really am quite against featuring EVERY major character on the logo. I just think it makes it cluttered plus it's hard to do in a 150x150 spaced area and still look good. They're SO TINY on that image that you can barely see them. To bring them closer where you CAN see them makes it that much harder to put them ALL in there. Do you see where I'm going with this? Homestar by himself or with say the second leading character (Strong Bad) is about as much into this kind of idea of multiple characters as I think we need to get. Because really, it's not like people visiting here are going to not know there are more characters. TBC don't have every character on their main intro page, and the website IS Homestar Runner.com after all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, Homsar's not in it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:I have nothing against trying to get more characters into the logo (although I'm against making Strong Bad central), but I agree with BleedOrange that the chances of anything simular to this actually making it so that it's clear and recognizable is slim at best, so with so many options, I vote no to this one fo'sure fo'sure - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#FCUSA Puzzle|FCUSA Puzzle]]===
The logo is a renderation of the wikipedia logo with Free Country on it. It signifies that we continueously build on the Homestar Runner World. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:The logo itself isn't bad (but not great either), but I am a bit disturbed by the idea that we "build" on the world of Homestar Runner, because while we look inside that world at things deeper, we're not really adding to the world TBC created in any way really. As far as the logo goes, I like the idea, the logo itself isn't that simple though, or really all that clear. But it is a good general idea for a design focus. The other thing is I'm not entirely sure that using the globe puzzle, a logo should make a "brand" (in this case the site) distinctive from other simular sites, so thats my view on this. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not saying that we're adding to the world of Homestar Runner, I'm saying that as the Homestar Runner universe expands, we add onto the wiki, building on the information of the world of Homestar Runner as more things are divulged. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok. Makes more sense to me now. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think you should cut out Homestar and the background and put Homestar Runner WikI under it and it'll look like Wikipedia. --[[User:Gert7|Gert7]] 08:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::As Ilko said, we don't want top connect our identity too much to another website. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I really like the "cleanliness" of this logo. The strong black lines around the globe and the kamikaze bg. Although I think it's a little odd of the placement of homestar's head and the font. I still like it and with some work it could be better. I do agree that using the puzzle concept still connects us strongly to wikipedia... and it probably would require (maybe) their permission as well.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think there's too much going on in this one. It's also too close to the Wikipedia logo for my taste.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Field|Field]]===
I kind of like this one...and the field is a good background for the logo. What about Homestar, SB, and maybe one or two others gathered around the stick? Or maybe that would be too cluttered. Hmm.... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This isn't bad, but the field seems a little non-specific for a logo. Not first place in my book - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think this would be my favorite if it had the kamikaze background. But I see there could be a problem with the lines converging. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like having The Field as a background. It's a good general representation of the H*R universe. One of my favorites right here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad|Homestar and Strong Bad]]===
:This is a pretty good concept: I like the inclusion of Strong Bad as well as Homestar, since both are equally central to the Homestar Runner body of work. If we end up liking this design, there are some small suggestions I could make, but as an overall design I think it shows great promise. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Not to into this. I like the idea. But not this logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's cool. BUT I don't don't like the blinking. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The thing I don't like is the font. Dark on dark? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:Too too much Strong Bad focus along with color and font issues. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field|Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field]]===
I liked the idea above, but not the logo itself. So I put them in the field. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like a lot of things about this: I like the inclusion of both SB and HR, the foreground/background juxtaposition, and the classic setting of The Field. In my mind, this is a strong candidate. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's a very nice logo. I'm using it on my monobook right now. I increased the brightness so it blended better with the Wiki. It looks pretty good on my 'puter and I think it has a lot going for it. Features the two main characters in a classic and common setting for the toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm still happy with the original, but of the prospective future logos, this one is my favorite. Simple but effective. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Also my favorite... I like Homestar coming in from the side, and I love Strong Bad's pose. Excellent. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Very professional looking. Not my personal favorite, but one of my favorites. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking over them all this ''might'' (I'm not sure) be my favorite. It 1) doesn't have just Homestar, 2) has Strong Bad, and 3) looks, well, logolike. I can't quite explain that, but it has a certain logociousness that, say, Weclome Back doesn't. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with AbdiViklas. This logo looks ''very'' professional and a lot like a logo. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 01:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one's my favorite and Official Logo Homestar gets second place. This design really does look professional, unlike some that would be more appropriate for the informal fanstuff wiki. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 13:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:While I do think this is above average as a logo for the site (in that it is pretty clean and recognizeable), I don't like that it seems to focus on Strong Bad with Homestar seeming to interupt him, if we go with anything with both involved (which I am very against anywho) it should have Homestar at center and Stongbad in the background and mostly out of frame. Also I think Homestar should have his mouth closed in any logo design, it's just more professional. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::While I hear what you're saying, I'm not sure I understand it: Why do you feel so strongly that it should be just Homestar, or Homestar-centric? (Um, aside from the fact that it's called the "Homestar Runner Wiki", I supppose.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::There are a few ways to look at it: 1) if this is your first experience with the world of Homestar Runner, you would expect the character at the center of the logo to be Homestar Runner. 2) We are Homestar Runner Wiki, and not Homestar and Strong Bad Wiki, while Strong Bad is important to the H*R universe, he is not the "focus" of the site 3) Our logo and thus our "brand" has been Homestar-centric, and thus to remove him from the focus really changes our "brand" and I'm not sure thats needed.
All of this is comes back to the same thing you said, our name is Homestar Runner Wiki, and our logo should represent either the entirety of the website, or the character for which the site we're a wiki about was named. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:To me, it looks more like Strong Bad's in the background, while Homestar is closer to the viewer. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar in Front of Logo|Homestar in Front of Logo]]===
This is a simple redesign, but design is different than others in a way that its so unoriginal, its original. Think about it.--{{User:Strong Devon/sig}}01:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:Thought about it. No, I don't like it. Not clean enough or clear enough to be a recognizable branding (logo) for the wiki. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar STAR|Homestar STAR]]===
A cool idea I had. I can do lots of things with this idea, but this is the general concept. He could blink, the star's contrast could be less... his could be more... etc. etc. I accidently flattened a layer while making it, so it was impossible to further change the star's outline. So I'd have to redo it if it was picked to change that part... that or edit a new outline over the current. Anyway. Here's the concept. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:My initial reaction is I like it alot as is. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

::I like this one a lot. I think this, Kamikaze Full Boyd, World or the Current Updated are the best designs. While I'm still trying to figure out my top favorite, this is definitely one of them.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Jokestar Runner|Jokestar Runner]]===

It's dot Joey! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:This logo would be perfect! Unfortunately, I don't think we could get permission to use that picture from TBC ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::Since when do we ask TBC for persmission to use pictures? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually. that's the next project after the logo redesign: send TBC individual emails about each image on the wiki asking for their permission to use them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Funny! Funny. That...is a joke, right? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 01:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yep — it's a joke :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Have TBC given any indication that they want us to do that? If they email one of you and said that they'd prefer for us to get permission to use their images, then ok, we respect their wishes. But since we've been at this for half a decade and if they haven't complained, then I would consider it a severe annoyance to email them about every image. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 02:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::See above :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, we've only been at this for three years. Point still taken, though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Kamikaze Full Body|Kamikaze Full Body]]===
This is like the idea with the logo but without. It's my personal favorite. I think it is the best example of what the new logo should be like. Similar to before but with a refreshing twist.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:If this section symbolizes [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|18, 24, and 25]] as a whole, I vote for No Logo Homestar style. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah that's what I meant for this section to symbolize.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Then yeah, all for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I really like this one. Simple, but updated. Not too much going on, but newer.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 05:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heck yeah! [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|24]] is my favorite. I think this is the style we should go with, personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::This version of the logo is my personal fave. The old background with the new Homestar. Because he's what the site is all about and don't you forget it! If you try to bring other character to the logo, some (like me) will complain why you left out that other character. Blinking or not, I don't care. but I want '''this one'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Would prefer a more strait redesign of the current if we went this route, but it's ok - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I almost like this one. The only thing I dislike is the white outline around Homestar. It's too thick. I would like it is it were fading into the blue like the current logo. Also, I dislike the crampedness of the words "Homestar Runner". Maybe if Homestar were further down a little, and the words were a little bigger. I don't know. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Between this one and the current one, I think the current one is better. It's simpler, more visible, and Homestar looks (and is) more intelligent with his mouth closed. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with all others who have this as their favorite. It's a subtle, yet powerful change that is just what this wiki needs. It keeps the simplicity of the old logo, but with a twist. Pretty awesome. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree as well. This logo is just what everyone is used to, but updated.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}}
::::::::::This one's definitely my favourite too. I've got it set as my logo in [[User:Loafing/monobook.css]] for over a week now, and I'm pretty happy with it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be much disapproval for this logo. I still think it's better than any of the others. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:Argh, the white blur! It burns my eyes! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I fixed the lines behind Homestar. They are no longer crooked.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

====Kamikaze Full Body Blurred====
I decided to make the background out of focus. Here's what it looks like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:I think this is quite a bit better than the regular Kamikaze Full Body. I'll go for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::It's okay, but can you please lessen the white glow around Homestar? Make it less intense, like the current logo. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I like this one. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Lappy|Lappy]]===
This one is interesting and the lettering is pretty nice, I think, but the animation will probably lose it's novelty after a while and annoy some users. I have nothing against animation (like homestar blinking) but not as constant as this. Maybe a static version could be used? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't like the cursor blinking either. But I do like the concept. I can make strong bad in it too ya know. It's just the idea. I can take away/add to it. It's best to leave it as one character though, for the reasons that this image is too small for too much more to be going on in it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Good concept, the design as a whole doesn't seem to quite hit me as a "recognizeable logo" but it's again something that could be worked with I think, better than alot of options in my eyes, but still not the best - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::The blinking is kind of distracting. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agreed. To me, all the animations are distracting. A simple and easy to remember logo is what I'm going for. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Weighed against the other (and now better) ideas. I don't like this one much anymore. Blinking, stationary or uhh.. blinking. It's nice, but not nice enough to be the WIKI logo IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I like the concept, and the design but it's too... non-logoish (as stated by Ilko). Still, it's well done.[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo Homestar|Official Logo Homestar]]===
Summarizing the objections from [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], including the official logo in ours may cross an ethical boundary. Despite this, I think this is an example of a way to broaden the scope of our logo from Homestar the character to the Homestar Runner body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:The black one above, does a better job of being a logo for the wiki, as I concur that this makes us seem a little too connected to H*R.com and TBC.
::I would like it better if the logo was in front of Homestar. With him in front, it's hard to read what the logo says. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::His star is supposed to be replacing the one in the logo, if I'm getting this right. Instead of this: h*r It's this: h/*\r Get it? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|Official Logo with Green Wiki]]===
Looks GWEAT. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:A branding issue with this one. Makes us seem way too connected with the official world of Homestarrunner.com. We need to be sure to keep our brand distinct from TBCs as while this site wouldn't exist otherwise, we are completely seperate and not connected in any way, thus our logo needs to represent that. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I just don't see how using the official logo in our logo is any different than using Homestar in our logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::A definition of a logo(edited from Wikipedia): "A logo is a graphic element or icon of a trademark or brand. A typical logo is designed to cause immediate recognition by the viewer. The logo's shapes, colors, fonts and images are usually different from others in a similar market." Thus to use the official logo of Homestarrunner.com as the main focus of our logo is to give the impression that we are part of that brand, which we are not. This is also part of the reason I think we shouldn't stray too far from the logo we already have (Homestar-centric as someone called it). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Very well put.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
This, is, actually the ''first'' suggested logo change, taken from [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 2]] at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]'s request. I think it's well crafted. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'll concur that this is a GREAT logo, everything I'd want in a logo if it was my company (simple, easily identifiable, very well connected to the subject represented, presenting a positive and professional image.) Yet, the branding issue is a major problem, there's unfortunately (at least in my mind) no real way to get around it, to make enough changes to avoid potential trademark infringement (or at least intellectual property infringement if it's not a trademarked logo) we'd be cheapening our brand to that of a cheap rip-off of an original (see lots of store brand sodas or "fake" watches and jewelry brands.) Also I stand by the fact that to move too far from what the logo we've got now is not just changing our logo, but rebranding our entire effort, which I do not see as being something we need right now. (If we had changed our mission or our way of operating or something else then yes, we should look at rebranding ourselves, but we haven't.) As is, the only reason to update the wiki logo seems to be that we want to modernize to better represent the subject of the site and just to look more "current" with the times. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I won't mention the H*R logo problem. We've heard plenty of that. But I will say that I definitely don't like the green "Wiki" font. For some reason, the green with the red and blue or the regular H*R logo makes me think of this logo like a kid's toy or something. I just don't like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think I definitely like this one best. Less is more. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}
Can't put my finger on it, but there's just something about this one I like and dislike at the same time (sorry, wasting space) [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

=== [[HRwiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old Homestarrunner|Old Homestar]] ===
I made this logo with paint (so excuse me for the bad picture) of the Old Homestarrunner standing next to a light green oval with the text HRWiki and standing in front of a white background. - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]

:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!]] No. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::To be less blunt than The Mu, it needs work. Lots and lots of work. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 18:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old New Star|Old New Star]]===
I'm not sure how much this crosses the boundaries of too much. But I thought it'd be kind of neat if the logo could switch back and forth between the original design for Homestar and the current. The one in the example above is set for 15 second intervals. But I made a [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew30.gif 30 second] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew60.gif 60 second] one as an example. The 15 second is just so you don't have to wait around forever to see it. The 30 or 60 is the actual timer I think it should have. Most people would see it as it is. Just a regular logo, those who stick around for awhile might notice it changed. They'd be like, wait a second... wasn't that a diff. Homestar? It will loop back and forth every 30 or 60 seconds from the original design to the current. It's not a very big file size either. Only around 20 kb.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the still image of Homestar (current) in front of the old star, but I don't like the animation. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::No matter what is decided, I think that this will deserve a paragraph in [[A_History|our history]] once we all decide. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I basically copied the way TBC animated it. So, uhm, what are you saying man! You don't like TBC's animation!?! lol. And yeah, this is pretty historical. Err, hysterical. Hysterically long.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::TBC rarely morph between Homestars if ever. I don't like the looking of going from old to new, it looks rough and abrupt. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Go look at Strongest Man in the world... that's where it's from. I did take out two frames of the animation to get file size down, but otherwise I did it exactly how they did. It doesn't have to be animated either. This is a '''DESIGN IDEA''', it's for the design itself, not just the animation. I can make it stationary too. I kind of like it more stationary anyway. Although I had to animate it. You say TBC never morph between them, but that's not the point. The point is that it morphs between them so sometimes it's the original design and sometimes it is not. It's supposed to be abrupt. I could make it .. fade.. into the other but I promise that wouldn't look as good. How do YOU think it should be animated if you don't like it. Got any ideas? :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 16:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Now I made another version where he just blinks (NO MORPHING)... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hsnewstar_blinks.gif stationary - just blinks]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 17:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Bleed, you really don't need to get this defensive. You are doing some fine work here but not everyone is going like everything that you do. As I stated above, I like this one stationairy like the link that you post immediately above. Keep up the good work. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not a big fan of the multi-homestar options, we're an encylopedia, not just a history textbook, also this one strikes me as a little too much like something that would be on the website, and we should keep arms length from that in my mind. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:: First of all, IRF, I'm NOT getting defensive. I don't know what you got out of what i said, but I didn't take offense. I wanted it to be CLEAR that this is an idea for a logo and it does not have to morph, blink or do anything at all than be a stationary image. Which is why I pointed out "design idea," and I could go on defending what I said but the point is I wasn't offended at all. I asked how he thought it should be animated because I'd actually like to hear some new ideas if you don't like something. Don't just say, oh well I don't like this... why not say what you would like as well? Anything I say on here is me trying to make clear either WHY I did something one way or that it's just an IDEA and I welcome more. Or I wouldn't continue to keep making logos. And, Skev, I don't see a reason why we should keep away from something that would be on the website. Just because Homestar is standing in front of a star isn't a big deal. I could have him stand in front of a field, kamikaze blue rays or a million other things... but it will all be derived from something on the site. The current logo is like something you would see on the site. So that's my thoughts on this. Oh and I also made a transparent version of the logo. See [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/star.gif this link here for transparent version of the logo]. That's it for now!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I changed the animation, it's a lil smoother now. I think. 20 second interval.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Once again, the animation could be distracting. I'm all in favor of a still image, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]]===
This is an interesting logo. You can't really see the characters underneath the puzzle design, which only represents one part of the wiki (the lots of different article "pieces" part). So it's overshadowing the main concept here, even though I must admit that the logo itself looks really awesome. Oh, and I [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_15#Just_Kinda_Wonderin.27...| totally called the slogan]]. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 16:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think this one's pretty cool, and very professional-looking. The only flaw is that it's a little hard to see the details on the pieces when it's logo-sized... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one as a logo, but due to the problems mentioned above, it should not be the main branding logo of the site, if we were a company, I would highly recomend this as a secondary informal logo (for backgrounds, stationary, art, immaging) , so as much as I LOVE this one in every way shape and form, for our purposes, *sigh* - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Running Intro|Running Intro]]===

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Then and Now|Then and Now]]===
I like this particular new idea because... quite honestly, it's going to be very hard to get multiple characters with-in the small logo and have them large enough to visibly see in a nice way. Homestar is, technically, the main character and alone can represent the toon itself... which is why he is on the main pages on the official site. This idea shows how far H*R has come from old to new, and is themed around the original book. Which is always nice. :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like that one, except It seems a little simplistic. Maybe the Homestars could be moved up a little, and have the lettering the same as either the one we have now, the star themed one, or the darker outline one? {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I could do that. But I was trying to copy the way TBC actually did it on the book. I could make it show all of both Homestar's bodies.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think maybe we could do half old half new (i.e. the old field and homestar on one side new field and homestar on the other)? Just a thought.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Don't think much of this both for the reasons mentioned in the "field" and in "then and now" - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like it. But, I don't like the possition of "the homestar runner wiki." {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Weclome Back|Weclome Back]]===
One aspect that I like about this one is that by including multiple characters, it better represents that this is the Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon) Wiki, and not the Homestar Runner (character) Wiki. I'm interested in seeing other logos that incorporate multiple characters or perhaps just Homestar and Strong Bad. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink2.gif blinkage style]--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::If Homestar is blinking, shouldn't Marzi blink too? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Marzi does blink.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink.gif I like this one the best.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This is too busy for a logo, it isn't something that will be easily connected to the wiki itself in my mind, and it's just really busy. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::What do mean "busy?" --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/busy "Full of distracting detail"], probably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::This one's pretty good, except the text is kinda hard to read. Other than that, good logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just to clear things up, I'm pretty sure the [[The King Of Town|KOT]], [[Marzipan|Marzi]], and [[Homestar]] all blink in this logo. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::The King never blinks. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I swear I saw his eyes move...--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Wiki_Globe|Wiki Globe]]===
I realize that I am not the best graphic designer in the world, but I think that the general idea comes across. The faces need a little bit more work to "sync" better with the globe, and Homestar's face may need to be a little more prominent. Besides that, this is pretty much the concept. I'm not sure if the Wikipedia logo can be used like this, but I don't see why not. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:While it's a nice idea, this would make us look affiliated with 'Kipedia. Some folks are already confusing us as it is, and I don't think we should enforce that perception. I strongly prefer an independent logo of our own.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::In answer to your last sentence, Ation, this kind of falls under the discussions above about using the H*R logo as part of our own. (I.e. might not be okay, and even if it's okay, maybe not desirable.) Although I wouldn't be nuts about this as a logo, I ''do'' think it's awesome. (This, by the way, is what I immediately thought of when I saw "Puzzle".) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::On the subject of whether this would be allowed, I suggest you look at [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] – though that was about [[:Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], and we'd have to ask them again if we chose this logo, I expect we'd get a similar response. Personally, I agree with Loafing, the line between us and Wikipedia already seems muddied enough, to new users... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agree with the above comments. Nonetheless, it does look really cool! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:In addition to the Wikipedia issues, we are not Strong Bad Wiki. You're not doing any favors to first time visitors with this one. We need to make sure the logo represents what we're about to someone with no idea who we are (or maybe even Homestar is). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I made some changes to the logo. Mostly, changes the globe from Strong Bad's head to Homestar's hat, rearranged faces, and "coolified the letters". People think it's better or worse? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Much better, but many of the issues from above still are in play - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]===
I made a brand new logo that I think works very well. Everyone's opinion is always different but I like it. For one thing, it incorporates a globe behind Homestar... we're like an encyclopedia to the world about Homestar Runner, many people using the Wiki are from all around the globe. This shows that. It uses the fictional globe in which Free Country, USA exists, so it also doubles as a symbol of the HR world. Homestar is standing there. Obviously. And it stands out from most of the other ideas, the website itself and is very different from the original logo. I made a few different colors for the background. A grey, blue and brown one. I tried other colors and trust me, they don't look as good.
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey.png Grey]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue.png Blue]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Brown.png Brown]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Grey Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue_Bl.gif Blue Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Brown Blinks]
And just in case you are wondering how it would look ON the wiki. I made a GIF image that cycles between them as an example. It's low quality, but it gives you the idea. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/exampleworld.gif Example of Logo on the Wiki Itself]. I am a big fan of either the '''Grey''' or '''Blue''' ones. I don't like the Brown so much. And I'd actually prefer it to be stationary, but I made some that blink too. I could always make the blink times less or more. Anyway, what do you think?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 20:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Due to requests.. I changed the main idea to a lighter colored background. Which I like better too. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/lightergrad.png VIEW UPDATED IDEA HERE]. And if we wanted to change the favicon, it could always be the image of the globe itself without homestar in front of it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::That new one is very cool, although I don't really like how his shadow is going to the right, as if the light is coming from the right. It sort of conflicts with the shadow that TBC already put there. If you removed the spotlight, that would make it perfect. (He's floating a little too. You might want to remove the shadow below him.) I wouldn't really like shading in the logo at all, if nessicary, because you want it to seem like it's looking straight at you. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Per your requests.. I removed the shadow on Homestar (agreed it contradicts the established shadow, though I could move it to the other direction). [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_somechanges.png View Some Changes on the logo]. How's that?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think that it looks great now, nice and slick. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I like it... a lot. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I changed the direction of the shadow, and did one without the shadow... changing the way Homestar faces to being the right. Take a look [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/World_shadowleft.png With Shadow Facing Right] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_noshadow.png Without Shadow Facing Right].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::It still seems a little weird to me with the shadow, now it's conflicting the world's shadow. (Plus, Homestar's a little off center). I do think that the one without the shadow is great. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Corrected some problems with the one where he faces right with no shadow. (I made the other side of the globe darker on accident) [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/facerightnoshad.png View Corrected One Here].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, this gets my vote. It cooooool. It reallyhas nothing to do with the wiki exept for the homestar. But alright. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I love this one. Probably my second favorite. Good representation of the Homestar universe. Not too simple, not too busy. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Can you make Homestar blink in that logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::Having Homestar blink would probably mess up all the awesome gradiants Bleed0range has in there, so it would probably be messy (and impractical) to make him blink. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good point. The awesome gradients of this logo would match the awesome gradients of the Main Page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The Kamikaze full body is no longer my personal fave. This one is definitely my personal favorite of them all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree. This one is very awesome. Except, the gradient mixed with the world's shadow. Maybe getting rid of the world's shadow would help? (Curse those shadows! They always seem to get the best of you!) - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, I think the gradient around the globe is necessary. It makes it look nicer than without. I tried it without and I didn't think it looked very good. The gradient is what helps give the globe a three dimensional feel. Things can have multiple shadows. Getting rid of the world's shadow would be a very difficult photoshop edit that would require a lot lot lot of time and probably not even look very good. I tried increasing the brightness... that didn't work. I'd have to piece it together using like the clone stamp tool or something which... *sigh* would take forever and like I said, probably look awful.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Even with this logo, which looks fine, I still firmly believe in the 18/24/25 version. But then, it's a personal choice that I'm going for minimal change here. I just want to preserve the integrity of our original logo as much as possible, and I don't feel any of these other logos fulfill that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Holy crap this one is way better than the full body logo I totally change my vote to this one like Bleed0range {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 20:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
While I don't see what's wrong with our current logo, this is probably my favorite of the new ones. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This one is very good, and I think it would look awesome with a transparent background (much in the same way [[Wikipedia:Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png|Wikipedia's logo]] lays on top of the page). We can discuss these details more if we end up picking this logo, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
::I do like this one. It does very little to mess with the current branding of the site and organization while updating the logo to something that feels more "modern". It is fairly simple to recognize, exclusive to this site, and makes good conections to what we're about here at the wiki. It makes my top 5 (behind Homestar STAR and Current Updated, and along with Basement and Puzzle) - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, this one has a lot of potential as a transparent logo. It wouldn't even have to be saved as a real transparent GIF or, in its case, alpha-blended PNG (due to the shadow), since its place on the page is static; we can just insert that portion of the page background underneath it and flatten it. But the globe and shadows would have to be tweaked so that the shadows don't "run" outside the 150×150 space allotted. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 21:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with Joshua completely. If the logo must be changed, please let it be to this one. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 23:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one is my favorite. The only thing that I don't like is the font. If we are selecting a new logo, why not a new font? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like this one. It's pretty cool. Though I DO agree that the font needs to be changed....

==<s>Other ideas</s> (submission time expired)==
<s>Do you have a great logo idea but not the graphic design tools to make it yourself? Post your idea here, and someone may try to make it.</s>

Another suggestion, which in no way discounts my support for the current logo with Homestar's current design, is [http://www.hrwiki.org/logoright/logo.php]. Perhaps one of those images? I especially like the one in AhnbergHand. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe A big star in the background with "Homestar Runner" in a arch and "Wiki" in a bowl like shape with Homestar and Strong Bad's Head {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===Favicon===

There have been strong objects to using anything a logo that [[:Image:Logo Redesign Official Logo Homestar.png|resembles]] [[:Image:hrwlogoidea-fixed.png|the]] [[:Image:Logo Redesign Old New Star.gif|offical]] [[:Image:logo.png|Homestar Runner site logo]]. Here is a [[:Image:Official_style_logo.png|screen print]] of the QOTW page. You will notice 4 times where we've used the official h*r logo. #'s 2, 3, and 4 can be argued as legit because they do link the official site, but #1 (the icon at the top which also appears in your bookmarks) doesn't have anything to do with the official but our site. I propose that if so many people feel that we shouldn't be using the h*r logo, we also shouldn't be using it in the address bar of the browser. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, the favicon doesn't stick out as much as the logo, and as you said, the rest are links to the official site. If we adopted the Homestarrunner logo as our logo, I think that that would just be intense copycatting. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::Although I certainly don't see any reason that, once we get done with this, we don't turn our attention to a new favicon. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely. We already addressed this briefly at the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive 7#favicon|original discussion]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:What's a favicon? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::A [[Wikipedia:Favicon|favicon]] is what IRF circled a 1) in his screenshot.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. But that'll probably just change with whatever logo we end up picking, right? What's the use of having a logo and a favicon that look completely different from each other? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I guess that's hard to answer until we've picked one, but the size differences might matter. A favicon has to be able to look good and be recognizable in very small dimensions. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::The favicon has doesn't match our current logo so it doesn't logically follow that it would change too. I think the onyl reason that it would change is all the recent discussion about the official logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It would be, in my opinion, hypocritical not to change the favicon after the discussion about the official logo not being used in the logo. The favicon uses the H*R logo, which, according to many user's opinion's here, would be immoral. If you can't use it in the logo, then you shouldn't be able to associate the official logo with any other part of the Wiki itself, including the favicon. So I think it HAS to be changed if the majority of user's believe you can't use the H*R logo in the Wiki logo. I'd find it hard to argue that point.{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::So everybody stop talking and make something. It need not match whatever we go with for our big logo. Also, we will use variations of it at the fanstuff and forum, so keep that in mind. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Idc, I tried for an hour last friday to find the actual graphic for the favicon, so that I could study it in terms of dimensions, pixel size, and how it look when enlarged. If I could find the graphic file, I would be glad to propose favicons. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::The file is at [http://www.hrwiki.org/favicon.ico favicon.ico] for nearly all websites. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The image displayed by most browsers is 16×16 pixels. Ideas do not need to be in any particular format. We'll handle the technical details of converting it and whatnot. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Logo redesign 2006

Elvis — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:50:04 GMT

Elvis: /* Lappy */

==Proposed logo discussions==
This is the discussion section for [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006|the 2006 logo proposals]]. Please address the logos in the section with the matching heading title. Click on the heading title to view the logo to which it refers. Please keep comments about logos civil and friendly; you can say you don't like a logo without instigating contention.

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]]===
The strengths of this design are its simplicity and its connection with the [[Intro]]. Aside from its slightly older style, one possible weakness is that by featuring only Homestar, it suggests that he is representative of the H*R body of work as a whole, which over time has grown to revolve around other characters equally or more (well, Strong Bad). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:<s>[http://www.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/wikihrlogo_new.png This one] seems to be just the ticket to me, though I'd like it even more if pixel by pixel the only thing that changed was Homestar. Maybe I'm just too used to the current design. I ''do'' still want the character's latest design in there instead of one that's a year or two old though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)</s>
::It ''is'' the latest design, only drawn differently. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, so it is. Never mind then. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:What makes this one so strong, and what I think we need to keep in mind with whatever we choose is that it is a logo, it is simple recognizable and easily connected to what it represents. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm kinda tired of this one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't see what's wrong with our current logo. It still looks good and works well. I'd personally like to keep it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I see nothing wrong with it either, but I also want a change of pace. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I am very sorry - I like many of the submissions I see, I mean, they're all really great. But the current one is the best of them all. If we didn't have a logo now, I'd pick the one we have now. '''''BUT''''' in my opinion, one of the other logos that have been suggested for this wiki would be great to replace the one over at the fanstuff wiki!! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Almost Everybody|Almost Everybody]]===
Somebody said they wanted more characters in the logo. I think it was Trey. So I put some more in there as silhouettes in the background. I think it's a very professionally done styled logo. I like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Homestar look a bit off. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Petty attempts at flaming someone else for disliking your logo aren't really smiled upon. Honest, tactful opinions only, please. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like the two side silhouettes but I'd take out whoever is in the middle. Can't see him anyway. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Lapper, to my knowledge Trogga hasn't made any logos, so far only bleedorange and I have {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::He did the Encyclopedia Style logo above.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::1. I didn't criticize his logo just because he didn't like mine, and 2. that ''was'' honest, tactful opinion. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, no, of course not. Let me find that edit summary... ah, here we are. "It's my turn to bash YOUR logo!" Let me know what you think is "honest and tactful". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::That wasn't meant to be taken seriously... --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::FYI, sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That wasn't sarcasm. (OK, I'll stop.) --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I actually like this logo, but can't you fix Homestar? Especially his eyes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::There's actually no difference between this Homestar and the others in my other logos, it's the same one. I've been working with the same PSD file all along. The reason it appears like it to you, most likely, is because the image is surrounded by white. Due to the fact that the logo is darker than most the others. If you copy and paste it into a darker bordered surrounding, it wouldn't look that way as much. Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about because I didn't change him at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I see. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about the characters in the background, I understand the desire to include more of "what H*R.com is about," but I see this as not being inclusive of the universe while leaning towards becoming too busy to be a LOGO for the wiki - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Blury. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good concept, and looks pretty sweet. I wouldn't mind this logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::It's blurry on purpose, foreground in focus, background out concept. Not my favorite, I personally vote against this one and I made it! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Basement|Basement]]===
For reasons stated [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], I don't really think SB's basement is really the place to put Homestar Runner. It's more his domain than Homestar's. Which is why I think this logo wouldn't work.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Wiki logo basement 2.png|just a thought]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Nah, I think if any other character is going to be on the logo, then Homestar should too.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::The logo will have to have Homestar on it. There's no way around it. He's the guy.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::If this wasn't "named" basement I think it would take less flack, as this is the design on the walls of TBC's office. I mean it is much of what a logo should be, simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and well connected to what it represents. The patern of this wall is very well recognized as something conected to H*R.com while at the same time showing that this is a seperate entitity from anything TBC created - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Black Background|Black Background]]===
:I like this one head and shoulders above the others, it has a professional look that an encyclopedia should have, and I really like the logo in the background which I feel better represents the H*R universe than any forced inclusion of other characters. Again like "basement" it is simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and easily connected to what it represents - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 18:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think the black background would go well with this white and colorful website. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]===

:I kind of enjoy this. Not to much of a change, like the Full Body one. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one a lot too, except I think the word "WIKI" should be flattened a bit so that the "W" doesn't look so, pointy. That or maybe a new font entirely (altho this one works well).--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, awexome, though the font could change. {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I like this one the best! — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:17, 18 November 2006
:::::I like this one, but I think it would be cool if this was combined with the full bodied one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 05:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::DING! You win! I'm glad to see an update of the current logo that's not so bright it actually kind of hurts my eyes in a sitting too close to the TV with the lights off kind of way. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)'''EDIT:''' Though the font still ought to be Bauhaus. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Edit Link|Edit Link]]===
- This idea is supposed to encapsulate some of the idea behind the wiki: a transition between [[The Field]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg the wiki background] (I wanted it to be a smooth, blended transition from the colored field to the washed out grayscale background, but I don't have the tools) and the [edit] link you see on wiki section headings. Needs some cleanup though, if it's going to be usable. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

:Until I read this, I thought that Homestar was standing in a spot right next to [[The King of Town's Castle]] (grass to stone). It just looked like that to me upon first glance, and I wouldn't have given it a second thought if I didn't read this. I think the sudden change is a bit disorientating. If you blended it, however, it might be a smoother logo. Pardon the pun. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::This is definitely the best concept I've seen yet, no doubt. It symbolizes the wiki greatly, but somehow I can't see this becoming a recognizable logo. Maybe it's just the sudden change that strikes me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a neat idea, but people wouldn't probably get it when they came here for the first time. They'd wonder why Homestar is next to the KOT's castle with Edit written no the wall. lol. I still like the concept, but I can't think of a good way to do it in a small image and it still be a good logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Could you create a mock-up of how this would look if actually applied to the main page? Because I have some slight doubts that it would produce the desired effect. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I can't see this working at all, I understand the idea and it's good as an idea, but as a logo it doesn't seem to fit. Nor does it give recognizeable branding to the site. Very low on my list - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Encyclopedia|Encyclopedia]]===
A bit plain, but symbolizes the idea of a H*R encyclopedia/wiki. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I definitely don't like this idea at all. Text as a logo?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I was going to add Homestar, but MS Paint wouldn't let me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I, also, disagree with the use of this logo. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I still kinda like logo, mainly for text I've chosen. Feel free to improve the idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think anyone would get that it was supposed to be an encyclopedia. They would just see text and go, "what's that supposed to be." Logos are generally visual. I don't like it because I can't think of a way that this would be appealing.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I was tryin' make a logo like [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page Wiktionary]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I get that one because it uses a pronunciation key (or whatever you call it)... and varying font sizes, etc. Yours just looks like a paragraph from a book. But either way, even if it looked better I don't like the idea. Personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think the Wiktionary logo is pretty bland. Not what I would have chosen for something as exciting as the HRWiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Hang on. This might be cool in the background behind Homestar... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Even with Homestar, I think it's going to be too busy and not representitive enough to be a logo, but I'm willing to wait and see - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree. As a logo alone, it's quite bland, and as a background, it would be distracting. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Text woldn't work. 1.) It's boring. 2.) It wouldn't look right on this backround 3.) it makes no sense. Why couldn't you just put words as the logo. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Having the words as the background isn't such a bad idea. It might be a little distracting, but it might not be as distracting if the words are in faint print. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It would look bad also because Homestar is white and the background is white... a "wash out effect" would happen. It's not a very interesting idea, IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't like this logo at all it would look like part of the page not a logo for the page.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 22:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I never really intended this logo to be a real logo; I just wanted to present my idea for a logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Everybody Everybody|Everybody, Everybody]]===
I made this one fairly quickly, it could use some better-looking text. Ideas, comments? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Very good! WAy better than I could do. So... cool. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It has potential. But like you said, look for some better text. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Seems a little bright to me, might not match with the current background. But as Lapper said, it does have potential. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I really am quite against featuring EVERY major character on the logo. I just think it makes it cluttered plus it's hard to do in a 150x150 spaced area and still look good. They're SO TINY on that image that you can barely see them. To bring them closer where you CAN see them makes it that much harder to put them ALL in there. Do you see where I'm going with this? Homestar by himself or with say the second leading character (Strong Bad) is about as much into this kind of idea of multiple characters as I think we need to get. Because really, it's not like people visiting here are going to not know there are more characters. TBC don't have every character on their main intro page, and the website IS Homestar Runner.com after all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, Homsar's not in it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:I have nothing against trying to get more characters into the logo (although I'm against making Strong Bad central), but I agree with BleedOrange that the chances of anything simular to this actually making it so that it's clear and recognizable is slim at best, so with so many options, I vote no to this one fo'sure fo'sure - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#FCUSA Puzzle|FCUSA Puzzle]]===
The logo is a renderation of the wikipedia logo with Free Country on it. It signifies that we continueously build on the Homestar Runner World. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:The logo itself isn't bad (but not great either), but I am a bit disturbed by the idea that we "build" on the world of Homestar Runner, because while we look inside that world at things deeper, we're not really adding to the world TBC created in any way really. As far as the logo goes, I like the idea, the logo itself isn't that simple though, or really all that clear. But it is a good general idea for a design focus. The other thing is I'm not entirely sure that using the globe puzzle, a logo should make a "brand" (in this case the site) distinctive from other simular sites, so thats my view on this. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not saying that we're adding to the world of Homestar Runner, I'm saying that as the Homestar Runner universe expands, we add onto the wiki, building on the information of the world of Homestar Runner as more things are divulged. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok. Makes more sense to me now. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think you should cut out Homestar and the background and put Homestar Runner WikI under it and it'll look like Wikipedia. --[[User:Gert7|Gert7]] 08:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::As Ilko said, we don't want top connect our identity too much to another website. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I really like the "cleanliness" of this logo. The strong black lines around the globe and the kamikaze bg. Although I think it's a little odd of the placement of homestar's head and the font. I still like it and with some work it could be better. I do agree that using the puzzle concept still connects us strongly to wikipedia... and it probably would require (maybe) their permission as well.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think there's too much going on in this one. It's also too close to the Wikipedia logo for my taste.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Field|Field]]===
I kind of like this one...and the field is a good background for the logo. What about Homestar, SB, and maybe one or two others gathered around the stick? Or maybe that would be too cluttered. Hmm.... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This isn't bad, but the field seems a little non-specific for a logo. Not first place in my book - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think this would be my favorite if it had the kamikaze background. But I see there could be a problem with the lines converging. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like having The Field as a background. It's a good general representation of the H*R universe. One of my favorites right here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad|Homestar and Strong Bad]]===
:This is a pretty good concept: I like the inclusion of Strong Bad as well as Homestar, since both are equally central to the Homestar Runner body of work. If we end up liking this design, there are some small suggestions I could make, but as an overall design I think it shows great promise. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Not to into this. I like the idea. But not this logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's cool. BUT I don't don't like the blinking. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The thing I don't like is the font. Dark on dark? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:Too too much Strong Bad focus along with color and font issues. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field|Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field]]===
I liked the idea above, but not the logo itself. So I put them in the field. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like a lot of things about this: I like the inclusion of both SB and HR, the foreground/background juxtaposition, and the classic setting of The Field. In my mind, this is a strong candidate. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's a very nice logo. I'm using it on my monobook right now. I increased the brightness so it blended better with the Wiki. It looks pretty good on my 'puter and I think it has a lot going for it. Features the two main characters in a classic and common setting for the toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm still happy with the original, but of the prospective future logos, this one is my favorite. Simple but effective. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Also my favorite... I like Homestar coming in from the side, and I love Strong Bad's pose. Excellent. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Very professional looking. Not my personal favorite, but one of my favorites. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking over them all this ''might'' (I'm not sure) be my favorite. It 1) doesn't have just Homestar, 2) has Strong Bad, and 3) looks, well, logolike. I can't quite explain that, but it has a certain logociousness that, say, Weclome Back doesn't. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with AbdiViklas. This logo looks ''very'' professional and a lot like a logo. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 01:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one's my favorite and Official Logo Homestar gets second place. This design really does look professional, unlike some that would be more appropriate for the informal fanstuff wiki. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 13:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:While I do think this is above average as a logo for the site (in that it is pretty clean and recognizeable), I don't like that it seems to focus on Strong Bad with Homestar seeming to interupt him, if we go with anything with both involved (which I am very against anywho) it should have Homestar at center and Stongbad in the background and mostly out of frame. Also I think Homestar should have his mouth closed in any logo design, it's just more professional. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::While I hear what you're saying, I'm not sure I understand it: Why do you feel so strongly that it should be just Homestar, or Homestar-centric? (Um, aside from the fact that it's called the "Homestar Runner Wiki", I supppose.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::There are a few ways to look at it: 1) if this is your first experience with the world of Homestar Runner, you would expect the character at the center of the logo to be Homestar Runner. 2) We are Homestar Runner Wiki, and not Homestar and Strong Bad Wiki, while Strong Bad is important to the H*R universe, he is not the "focus" of the site 3) Our logo and thus our "brand" has been Homestar-centric, and thus to remove him from the focus really changes our "brand" and I'm not sure thats needed.
All of this is comes back to the same thing you said, our name is Homestar Runner Wiki, and our logo should represent either the entirety of the website, or the character for which the site we're a wiki about was named. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:To me, it looks more like Strong Bad's in the background, while Homestar is closer to the viewer. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar in Front of Logo|Homestar in Front of Logo]]===
This is a simple redesign, but design is different than others in a way that its so unoriginal, its original. Think about it.--{{User:Strong Devon/sig}}01:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:Thought about it. No, I don't like it. Not clean enough or clear enough to be a recognizable branding (logo) for the wiki. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar STAR|Homestar STAR]]===
A cool idea I had. I can do lots of things with this idea, but this is the general concept. He could blink, the star's contrast could be less... his could be more... etc. etc. I accidently flattened a layer while making it, so it was impossible to further change the star's outline. So I'd have to redo it if it was picked to change that part... that or edit a new outline over the current. Anyway. Here's the concept. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:My initial reaction is I like it alot as is. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

::I like this one a lot. I think this, Kamikaze Full Boyd, World or the Current Updated are the best designs. While I'm still trying to figure out my top favorite, this is definitely one of them.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Jokestar Runner|Jokestar Runner]]===

It's dot Joey! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:This logo would be perfect! Unfortunately, I don't think we could get permission to use that picture from TBC ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::Since when do we ask TBC for persmission to use pictures? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually. that's the next project after the logo redesign: send TBC individual emails about each image on the wiki asking for their permission to use them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Funny! Funny. That...is a joke, right? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 01:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yep — it's a joke :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Have TBC given any indication that they want us to do that? If they email one of you and said that they'd prefer for us to get permission to use their images, then ok, we respect their wishes. But since we've been at this for half a decade and if they haven't complained, then I would consider it a severe annoyance to email them about every image. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 02:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::See above :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, we've only been at this for three years. Point still taken, though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Kamikaze Full Body|Kamikaze Full Body]]===
This is like the idea with the logo but without. It's my personal favorite. I think it is the best example of what the new logo should be like. Similar to before but with a refreshing twist.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:If this section symbolizes [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|18, 24, and 25]] as a whole, I vote for No Logo Homestar style. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah that's what I meant for this section to symbolize.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Then yeah, all for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I really like this one. Simple, but updated. Not too much going on, but newer.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 05:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heck yeah! [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|24]] is my favorite. I think this is the style we should go with, personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::This version of the logo is my personal fave. The old background with the new Homestar. Because he's what the site is all about and don't you forget it! If you try to bring other character to the logo, some (like me) will complain why you left out that other character. Blinking or not, I don't care. but I want '''this one'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Would prefer a more strait redesign of the current if we went this route, but it's ok - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I almost like this one. The only thing I dislike is the white outline around Homestar. It's too thick. I would like it is it were fading into the blue like the current logo. Also, I dislike the crampedness of the words "Homestar Runner". Maybe if Homestar were further down a little, and the words were a little bigger. I don't know. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Between this one and the current one, I think the current one is better. It's simpler, more visible, and Homestar looks (and is) more intelligent with his mouth closed. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with all others who have this as their favorite. It's a subtle, yet powerful change that is just what this wiki needs. It keeps the simplicity of the old logo, but with a twist. Pretty awesome. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree as well. This logo is just what everyone is used to, but updated.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}}
::::::::::This one's definitely my favourite too. I've got it set as my logo in [[User:Loafing/monobook.css]] for over a week now, and I'm pretty happy with it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be much disapproval for this logo. I still think it's better than any of the others. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:Argh, the white blur! It burns my eyes! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I fixed the lines behind Homestar. They are no longer crooked.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

====Kamikaze Full Body Blurred====
I decided to make the background out of focus. Here's what it looks like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:I think this is quite a bit better than the regular Kamikaze Full Body. I'll go for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::It's okay, but can you please lessen the white glow around Homestar? Make it less intense, like the current logo. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I like this one. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Lappy|Lappy]]===
This one is interesting and the lettering is pretty nice, I think, but the animation will probably lose it's novelty after a while and annoy some users. I have nothing against animation (like homestar blinking) but not as constant as this. Maybe a static version could be used? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't like the cursor blinking either. But I do like the concept. I can make strong bad in it too ya know. It's just the idea. I can take away/add to it. It's best to leave it as one character though, for the reasons that this image is too small for too much more to be going on in it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Good concept, the design as a whole doesn't seem to quite hit me as a "recognizeable logo" but it's again something that could be worked with I think, better than alot of options in my eyes, but still not the best - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::The blinking is kind of distracting. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agreed. To me, all the animations are distracting. A simple and easy to remember logo is what I'm going for. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Weighed against the other (and now better) ideas. I don't like this one much anymore. Blinking, stationary or uhh.. blinking. It's nice, but not nice enough to be the WIKI logo IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I like the concept, and the design but it's too... non-logoish (as stated by Ilko). Still, it's well done.[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo Homestar|Official Logo Homestar]]===
Summarizing the objections from [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], including the official logo in ours may cross an ethical boundary. Despite this, I think this is an example of a way to broaden the scope of our logo from Homestar the character to the Homestar Runner body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:The black one above, does a better job of being a logo for the wiki, as I concur that this makes us seem a little too connected to H*R.com and TBC.
::I would like it better if the logo was in front of Homestar. With him in front, it's hard to read what the logo says. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::His star is supposed to be replacing the one in the logo, if I'm getting this right. Instead of this: h*r It's this: h/*\r Get it? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|Official Logo with Green Wiki]]===
Looks GWEAT. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:A branding issue with this one. Makes us seem way too connected with the official world of Homestarrunner.com. We need to be sure to keep our brand distinct from TBCs as while this site wouldn't exist otherwise, we are completely seperate and not connected in any way, thus our logo needs to represent that. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I just don't see how using the official logo in our logo is any different than using Homestar in our logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::A definition of a logo(edited from Wikipedia): "A logo is a graphic element or icon of a trademark or brand. A typical logo is designed to cause immediate recognition by the viewer. The logo's shapes, colors, fonts and images are usually different from others in a similar market." Thus to use the official logo of Homestarrunner.com as the main focus of our logo is to give the impression that we are part of that brand, which we are not. This is also part of the reason I think we shouldn't stray too far from the logo we already have (Homestar-centric as someone called it). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Very well put.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
This, is, actually the ''first'' suggested logo change, taken from [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 2]] at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]'s request. I think it's well crafted. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'll concur that this is a GREAT logo, everything I'd want in a logo if it was my company (simple, easily identifiable, very well connected to the subject represented, presenting a positive and professional image.) Yet, the branding issue is a major problem, there's unfortunately (at least in my mind) no real way to get around it, to make enough changes to avoid potential trademark infringement (or at least intellectual property infringement if it's not a trademarked logo) we'd be cheapening our brand to that of a cheap rip-off of an original (see lots of store brand sodas or "fake" watches and jewelry brands.) Also I stand by the fact that to move too far from what the logo we've got now is not just changing our logo, but rebranding our entire effort, which I do not see as being something we need right now. (If we had changed our mission or our way of operating or something else then yes, we should look at rebranding ourselves, but we haven't.) As is, the only reason to update the wiki logo seems to be that we want to modernize to better represent the subject of the site and just to look more "current" with the times. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I won't mention the H*R logo problem. We've heard plenty of that. But I will say that I definitely don't like the green "Wiki" font. For some reason, the green with the red and blue or the regular H*R logo makes me think of this logo like a kid's toy or something. I just don't like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think I definitely like this one best. Less is more. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}

=== [[HRwiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old Homestarrunner|Old Homestar]] ===
I made this logo with paint (so excuse me for the bad picture) of the Old Homestarrunner standing next to a light green oval with the text HRWiki and standing in front of a white background. - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]

:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!]] No. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::To be less blunt than The Mu, it needs work. Lots and lots of work. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 18:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old New Star|Old New Star]]===
I'm not sure how much this crosses the boundaries of too much. But I thought it'd be kind of neat if the logo could switch back and forth between the original design for Homestar and the current. The one in the example above is set for 15 second intervals. But I made a [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew30.gif 30 second] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew60.gif 60 second] one as an example. The 15 second is just so you don't have to wait around forever to see it. The 30 or 60 is the actual timer I think it should have. Most people would see it as it is. Just a regular logo, those who stick around for awhile might notice it changed. They'd be like, wait a second... wasn't that a diff. Homestar? It will loop back and forth every 30 or 60 seconds from the original design to the current. It's not a very big file size either. Only around 20 kb.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the still image of Homestar (current) in front of the old star, but I don't like the animation. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::No matter what is decided, I think that this will deserve a paragraph in [[A_History|our history]] once we all decide. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I basically copied the way TBC animated it. So, uhm, what are you saying man! You don't like TBC's animation!?! lol. And yeah, this is pretty historical. Err, hysterical. Hysterically long.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::TBC rarely morph between Homestars if ever. I don't like the looking of going from old to new, it looks rough and abrupt. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Go look at Strongest Man in the world... that's where it's from. I did take out two frames of the animation to get file size down, but otherwise I did it exactly how they did. It doesn't have to be animated either. This is a '''DESIGN IDEA''', it's for the design itself, not just the animation. I can make it stationary too. I kind of like it more stationary anyway. Although I had to animate it. You say TBC never morph between them, but that's not the point. The point is that it morphs between them so sometimes it's the original design and sometimes it is not. It's supposed to be abrupt. I could make it .. fade.. into the other but I promise that wouldn't look as good. How do YOU think it should be animated if you don't like it. Got any ideas? :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 16:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Now I made another version where he just blinks (NO MORPHING)... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hsnewstar_blinks.gif stationary - just blinks]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 17:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Bleed, you really don't need to get this defensive. You are doing some fine work here but not everyone is going like everything that you do. As I stated above, I like this one stationairy like the link that you post immediately above. Keep up the good work. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not a big fan of the multi-homestar options, we're an encylopedia, not just a history textbook, also this one strikes me as a little too much like something that would be on the website, and we should keep arms length from that in my mind. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:: First of all, IRF, I'm NOT getting defensive. I don't know what you got out of what i said, but I didn't take offense. I wanted it to be CLEAR that this is an idea for a logo and it does not have to morph, blink or do anything at all than be a stationary image. Which is why I pointed out "design idea," and I could go on defending what I said but the point is I wasn't offended at all. I asked how he thought it should be animated because I'd actually like to hear some new ideas if you don't like something. Don't just say, oh well I don't like this... why not say what you would like as well? Anything I say on here is me trying to make clear either WHY I did something one way or that it's just an IDEA and I welcome more. Or I wouldn't continue to keep making logos. And, Skev, I don't see a reason why we should keep away from something that would be on the website. Just because Homestar is standing in front of a star isn't a big deal. I could have him stand in front of a field, kamikaze blue rays or a million other things... but it will all be derived from something on the site. The current logo is like something you would see on the site. So that's my thoughts on this. Oh and I also made a transparent version of the logo. See [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/star.gif this link here for transparent version of the logo]. That's it for now!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I changed the animation, it's a lil smoother now. I think. 20 second interval.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Once again, the animation could be distracting. I'm all in favor of a still image, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]]===
This is an interesting logo. You can't really see the characters underneath the puzzle design, which only represents one part of the wiki (the lots of different article "pieces" part). So it's overshadowing the main concept here, even though I must admit that the logo itself looks really awesome. Oh, and I [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_15#Just_Kinda_Wonderin.27...| totally called the slogan]]. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 16:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think this one's pretty cool, and very professional-looking. The only flaw is that it's a little hard to see the details on the pieces when it's logo-sized... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one as a logo, but due to the problems mentioned above, it should not be the main branding logo of the site, if we were a company, I would highly recomend this as a secondary informal logo (for backgrounds, stationary, art, immaging) , so as much as I LOVE this one in every way shape and form, for our purposes, *sigh* - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Running Intro|Running Intro]]===

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Then and Now|Then and Now]]===
I like this particular new idea because... quite honestly, it's going to be very hard to get multiple characters with-in the small logo and have them large enough to visibly see in a nice way. Homestar is, technically, the main character and alone can represent the toon itself... which is why he is on the main pages on the official site. This idea shows how far H*R has come from old to new, and is themed around the original book. Which is always nice. :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like that one, except It seems a little simplistic. Maybe the Homestars could be moved up a little, and have the lettering the same as either the one we have now, the star themed one, or the darker outline one? {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I could do that. But I was trying to copy the way TBC actually did it on the book. I could make it show all of both Homestar's bodies.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think maybe we could do half old half new (i.e. the old field and homestar on one side new field and homestar on the other)? Just a thought.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Don't think much of this both for the reasons mentioned in the "field" and in "then and now" - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like it. But, I don't like the possition of "the homestar runner wiki." {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Weclome Back|Weclome Back]]===
One aspect that I like about this one is that by including multiple characters, it better represents that this is the Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon) Wiki, and not the Homestar Runner (character) Wiki. I'm interested in seeing other logos that incorporate multiple characters or perhaps just Homestar and Strong Bad. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink2.gif blinkage style]--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::If Homestar is blinking, shouldn't Marzi blink too? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Marzi does blink.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink.gif I like this one the best.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This is too busy for a logo, it isn't something that will be easily connected to the wiki itself in my mind, and it's just really busy. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::What do mean "busy?" --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/busy "Full of distracting detail"], probably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::This one's pretty good, except the text is kinda hard to read. Other than that, good logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just to clear things up, I'm pretty sure the [[The King Of Town|KOT]], [[Marzipan|Marzi]], and [[Homestar]] all blink in this logo. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::The King never blinks. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I swear I saw his eyes move...--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Wiki_Globe|Wiki Globe]]===
I realize that I am not the best graphic designer in the world, but I think that the general idea comes across. The faces need a little bit more work to "sync" better with the globe, and Homestar's face may need to be a little more prominent. Besides that, this is pretty much the concept. I'm not sure if the Wikipedia logo can be used like this, but I don't see why not. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:While it's a nice idea, this would make us look affiliated with 'Kipedia. Some folks are already confusing us as it is, and I don't think we should enforce that perception. I strongly prefer an independent logo of our own.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::In answer to your last sentence, Ation, this kind of falls under the discussions above about using the H*R logo as part of our own. (I.e. might not be okay, and even if it's okay, maybe not desirable.) Although I wouldn't be nuts about this as a logo, I ''do'' think it's awesome. (This, by the way, is what I immediately thought of when I saw "Puzzle".) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::On the subject of whether this would be allowed, I suggest you look at [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] – though that was about [[:Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], and we'd have to ask them again if we chose this logo, I expect we'd get a similar response. Personally, I agree with Loafing, the line between us and Wikipedia already seems muddied enough, to new users... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agree with the above comments. Nonetheless, it does look really cool! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:In addition to the Wikipedia issues, we are not Strong Bad Wiki. You're not doing any favors to first time visitors with this one. We need to make sure the logo represents what we're about to someone with no idea who we are (or maybe even Homestar is). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I made some changes to the logo. Mostly, changes the globe from Strong Bad's head to Homestar's hat, rearranged faces, and "coolified the letters". People think it's better or worse? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Much better, but many of the issues from above still are in play - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]===
I made a brand new logo that I think works very well. Everyone's opinion is always different but I like it. For one thing, it incorporates a globe behind Homestar... we're like an encyclopedia to the world about Homestar Runner, many people using the Wiki are from all around the globe. This shows that. It uses the fictional globe in which Free Country, USA exists, so it also doubles as a symbol of the HR world. Homestar is standing there. Obviously. And it stands out from most of the other ideas, the website itself and is very different from the original logo. I made a few different colors for the background. A grey, blue and brown one. I tried other colors and trust me, they don't look as good.
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey.png Grey]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue.png Blue]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Brown.png Brown]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Grey Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue_Bl.gif Blue Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Brown Blinks]
And just in case you are wondering how it would look ON the wiki. I made a GIF image that cycles between them as an example. It's low quality, but it gives you the idea. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/exampleworld.gif Example of Logo on the Wiki Itself]. I am a big fan of either the '''Grey''' or '''Blue''' ones. I don't like the Brown so much. And I'd actually prefer it to be stationary, but I made some that blink too. I could always make the blink times less or more. Anyway, what do you think?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 20:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Due to requests.. I changed the main idea to a lighter colored background. Which I like better too. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/lightergrad.png VIEW UPDATED IDEA HERE]. And if we wanted to change the favicon, it could always be the image of the globe itself without homestar in front of it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::That new one is very cool, although I don't really like how his shadow is going to the right, as if the light is coming from the right. It sort of conflicts with the shadow that TBC already put there. If you removed the spotlight, that would make it perfect. (He's floating a little too. You might want to remove the shadow below him.) I wouldn't really like shading in the logo at all, if nessicary, because you want it to seem like it's looking straight at you. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Per your requests.. I removed the shadow on Homestar (agreed it contradicts the established shadow, though I could move it to the other direction). [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_somechanges.png View Some Changes on the logo]. How's that?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think that it looks great now, nice and slick. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I like it... a lot. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I changed the direction of the shadow, and did one without the shadow... changing the way Homestar faces to being the right. Take a look [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/World_shadowleft.png With Shadow Facing Right] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_noshadow.png Without Shadow Facing Right].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::It still seems a little weird to me with the shadow, now it's conflicting the world's shadow. (Plus, Homestar's a little off center). I do think that the one without the shadow is great. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Corrected some problems with the one where he faces right with no shadow. (I made the other side of the globe darker on accident) [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/facerightnoshad.png View Corrected One Here].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, this gets my vote. It cooooool. It reallyhas nothing to do with the wiki exept for the homestar. But alright. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I love this one. Probably my second favorite. Good representation of the Homestar universe. Not too simple, not too busy. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Can you make Homestar blink in that logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::Having Homestar blink would probably mess up all the awesome gradiants Bleed0range has in there, so it would probably be messy (and impractical) to make him blink. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good point. The awesome gradients of this logo would match the awesome gradients of the Main Page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The Kamikaze full body is no longer my personal fave. This one is definitely my personal favorite of them all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree. This one is very awesome. Except, the gradient mixed with the world's shadow. Maybe getting rid of the world's shadow would help? (Curse those shadows! They always seem to get the best of you!) - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, I think the gradient around the globe is necessary. It makes it look nicer than without. I tried it without and I didn't think it looked very good. The gradient is what helps give the globe a three dimensional feel. Things can have multiple shadows. Getting rid of the world's shadow would be a very difficult photoshop edit that would require a lot lot lot of time and probably not even look very good. I tried increasing the brightness... that didn't work. I'd have to piece it together using like the clone stamp tool or something which... *sigh* would take forever and like I said, probably look awful.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Even with this logo, which looks fine, I still firmly believe in the 18/24/25 version. But then, it's a personal choice that I'm going for minimal change here. I just want to preserve the integrity of our original logo as much as possible, and I don't feel any of these other logos fulfill that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Holy crap this one is way better than the full body logo I totally change my vote to this one like Bleed0range {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 20:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
While I don't see what's wrong with our current logo, this is probably my favorite of the new ones. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This one is very good, and I think it would look awesome with a transparent background (much in the same way [[Wikipedia:Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png|Wikipedia's logo]] lays on top of the page). We can discuss these details more if we end up picking this logo, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
::I do like this one. It does very little to mess with the current branding of the site and organization while updating the logo to something that feels more "modern". It is fairly simple to recognize, exclusive to this site, and makes good conections to what we're about here at the wiki. It makes my top 5 (behind Homestar STAR and Current Updated, and along with Basement and Puzzle) - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, this one has a lot of potential as a transparent logo. It wouldn't even have to be saved as a real transparent GIF or, in its case, alpha-blended PNG (due to the shadow), since its place on the page is static; we can just insert that portion of the page background underneath it and flatten it. But the globe and shadows would have to be tweaked so that the shadows don't "run" outside the 150×150 space allotted. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 21:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with Joshua completely. If the logo must be changed, please let it be to this one. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 23:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one is my favorite. The only thing that I don't like is the font. If we are selecting a new logo, why not a new font? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like this one. It's pretty cool. Though I DO agree that the font needs to be changed....

==<s>Other ideas</s> (submission time expired)==
<s>Do you have a great logo idea but not the graphic design tools to make it yourself? Post your idea here, and someone may try to make it.</s>

Another suggestion, which in no way discounts my support for the current logo with Homestar's current design, is [http://www.hrwiki.org/logoright/logo.php]. Perhaps one of those images? I especially like the one in AhnbergHand. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe A big star in the background with "Homestar Runner" in a arch and "Wiki" in a bowl like shape with Homestar and Strong Bad's Head {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===Favicon===

There have been strong objects to using anything a logo that [[:Image:Logo Redesign Official Logo Homestar.png|resembles]] [[:Image:hrwlogoidea-fixed.png|the]] [[:Image:Logo Redesign Old New Star.gif|offical]] [[:Image:logo.png|Homestar Runner site logo]]. Here is a [[:Image:Official_style_logo.png|screen print]] of the QOTW page. You will notice 4 times where we've used the official h*r logo. #'s 2, 3, and 4 can be argued as legit because they do link the official site, but #1 (the icon at the top which also appears in your bookmarks) doesn't have anything to do with the official but our site. I propose that if so many people feel that we shouldn't be using the h*r logo, we also shouldn't be using it in the address bar of the browser. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, the favicon doesn't stick out as much as the logo, and as you said, the rest are links to the official site. If we adopted the Homestarrunner logo as our logo, I think that that would just be intense copycatting. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::Although I certainly don't see any reason that, once we get done with this, we don't turn our attention to a new favicon. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely. We already addressed this briefly at the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive 7#favicon|original discussion]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:What's a favicon? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::A [[Wikipedia:Favicon|favicon]] is what IRF circled a 1) in his screenshot.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. But that'll probably just change with whatever logo we end up picking, right? What's the use of having a logo and a favicon that look completely different from each other? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I guess that's hard to answer until we've picked one, but the size differences might matter. A favicon has to be able to look good and be recognizable in very small dimensions. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::The favicon has doesn't match our current logo so it doesn't logically follow that it would change too. I think the onyl reason that it would change is all the recent discussion about the official logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It would be, in my opinion, hypocritical not to change the favicon after the discussion about the official logo not being used in the logo. The favicon uses the H*R logo, which, according to many user's opinion's here, would be immoral. If you can't use it in the logo, then you shouldn't be able to associate the official logo with any other part of the Wiki itself, including the favicon. So I think it HAS to be changed if the majority of user's believe you can't use the H*R logo in the Wiki logo. I'd find it hard to argue that point.{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::So everybody stop talking and make something. It need not match whatever we go with for our big logo. Also, we will use variations of it at the fanstuff and forum, so keep that in mind. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Idc, I tried for an hour last friday to find the actual graphic for the favicon, so that I could study it in terms of dimensions, pixel size, and how it look when enlarged. If I could find the graphic file, I would be glad to propose favicons. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::The file is at [http://www.hrwiki.org/favicon.ico favicon.ico] for nearly all websites. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The image displayed by most browsers is 16×16 pixels. Ideas do not need to be in any particular format. We'll handle the technical details of converting it and whatnot. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Logo redesign 2006

Elvis — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:46:47 GMT

Elvis: /* Kamikaze Full Body Blurred */

==Proposed logo discussions==
This is the discussion section for [[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006|the 2006 logo proposals]]. Please address the logos in the section with the matching heading title. Click on the heading title to view the logo to which it refers. Please keep comments about logos civil and friendly; you can say you don't like a logo without instigating contention.

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current|Current]]===
The strengths of this design are its simplicity and its connection with the [[Intro]]. Aside from its slightly older style, one possible weakness is that by featuring only Homestar, it suggests that he is representative of the H*R body of work as a whole, which over time has grown to revolve around other characters equally or more (well, Strong Bad). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:<s>[http://www.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/wikihrlogo_new.png This one] seems to be just the ticket to me, though I'd like it even more if pixel by pixel the only thing that changed was Homestar. Maybe I'm just too used to the current design. I ''do'' still want the character's latest design in there instead of one that's a year or two old though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)</s>
::It ''is'' the latest design, only drawn differently. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, so it is. Never mind then. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:What makes this one so strong, and what I think we need to keep in mind with whatever we choose is that it is a logo, it is simple recognizable and easily connected to what it represents. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm kinda tired of this one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't see what's wrong with our current logo. It still looks good and works well. I'd personally like to keep it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I see nothing wrong with it either, but I also want a change of pace. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I am very sorry - I like many of the submissions I see, I mean, they're all really great. But the current one is the best of them all. If we didn't have a logo now, I'd pick the one we have now. '''''BUT''''' in my opinion, one of the other logos that have been suggested for this wiki would be great to replace the one over at the fanstuff wiki!! --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Almost Everybody|Almost Everybody]]===
Somebody said they wanted more characters in the logo. I think it was Trey. So I put some more in there as silhouettes in the background. I think it's a very professionally done styled logo. I like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Homestar look a bit off. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Petty attempts at flaming someone else for disliking your logo aren't really smiled upon. Honest, tactful opinions only, please. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like the two side silhouettes but I'd take out whoever is in the middle. Can't see him anyway. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Lapper, to my knowledge Trogga hasn't made any logos, so far only bleedorange and I have {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::He did the Encyclopedia Style logo above.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::1. I didn't criticize his logo just because he didn't like mine, and 2. that ''was'' honest, tactful opinion. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh, no, of course not. Let me find that edit summary... ah, here we are. "It's my turn to bash YOUR logo!" Let me know what you think is "honest and tactful". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::That wasn't meant to be taken seriously... --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::FYI, sarcasm doesn't come through in written form. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That wasn't sarcasm. (OK, I'll stop.) --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I actually like this logo, but can't you fix Homestar? Especially his eyes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::There's actually no difference between this Homestar and the others in my other logos, it's the same one. I've been working with the same PSD file all along. The reason it appears like it to you, most likely, is because the image is surrounded by white. Due to the fact that the logo is darker than most the others. If you copy and paste it into a darker bordered surrounding, it wouldn't look that way as much. Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about because I didn't change him at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I see. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about the characters in the background, I understand the desire to include more of "what H*R.com is about," but I see this as not being inclusive of the universe while leaning towards becoming too busy to be a LOGO for the wiki - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Blury. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good concept, and looks pretty sweet. I wouldn't mind this logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::It's blurry on purpose, foreground in focus, background out concept. Not my favorite, I personally vote against this one and I made it! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Basement|Basement]]===
For reasons stated [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], I don't really think SB's basement is really the place to put Homestar Runner. It's more his domain than Homestar's. Which is why I think this logo wouldn't work.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Wiki logo basement 2.png|just a thought]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Nah, I think if any other character is going to be on the logo, then Homestar should too.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::The logo will have to have Homestar on it. There's no way around it. He's the guy.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::If this wasn't "named" basement I think it would take less flack, as this is the design on the walls of TBC's office. I mean it is much of what a logo should be, simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and well connected to what it represents. The patern of this wall is very well recognized as something conected to H*R.com while at the same time showing that this is a seperate entitity from anything TBC created - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Black Background|Black Background]]===
:I like this one head and shoulders above the others, it has a professional look that an encyclopedia should have, and I really like the logo in the background which I feel better represents the H*R universe than any forced inclusion of other characters. Again like "basement" it is simple, clean, clear, distinctive, and easily connected to what it represents - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 18:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think the black background would go well with this white and colorful website. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Current Updated|Current Updated]]===

:I kind of enjoy this. Not to much of a change, like the Full Body one. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one a lot too, except I think the word "WIKI" should be flattened a bit so that the "W" doesn't look so, pointy. That or maybe a new font entirely (altho this one works well).--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, awexome, though the font could change. {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I like this one the best! — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:17, 18 November 2006
:::::I like this one, but I think it would be cool if this was combined with the full bodied one. {{User:DBK/sig}} 05:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::DING! You win! I'm glad to see an update of the current logo that's not so bright it actually kind of hurts my eyes in a sitting too close to the TV with the lights off kind of way. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)'''EDIT:''' Though the font still ought to be Bauhaus. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Edit Link|Edit Link]]===
- This idea is supposed to encapsulate some of the idea behind the wiki: a transition between [[The Field]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg the wiki background] (I wanted it to be a smooth, blended transition from the colored field to the washed out grayscale background, but I don't have the tools) and the [edit] link you see on wiki section headings. Needs some cleanup though, if it's going to be usable. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

:Until I read this, I thought that Homestar was standing in a spot right next to [[The King of Town's Castle]] (grass to stone). It just looked like that to me upon first glance, and I wouldn't have given it a second thought if I didn't read this. I think the sudden change is a bit disorientating. If you blended it, however, it might be a smoother logo. Pardon the pun. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::This is definitely the best concept I've seen yet, no doubt. It symbolizes the wiki greatly, but somehow I can't see this becoming a recognizable logo. Maybe it's just the sudden change that strikes me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a neat idea, but people wouldn't probably get it when they came here for the first time. They'd wonder why Homestar is next to the KOT's castle with Edit written no the wall. lol. I still like the concept, but I can't think of a good way to do it in a small image and it still be a good logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Could you create a mock-up of how this would look if actually applied to the main page? Because I have some slight doubts that it would produce the desired effect. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I can't see this working at all, I understand the idea and it's good as an idea, but as a logo it doesn't seem to fit. Nor does it give recognizeable branding to the site. Very low on my list - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Encyclopedia|Encyclopedia]]===
A bit plain, but symbolizes the idea of a H*R encyclopedia/wiki. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I definitely don't like this idea at all. Text as a logo?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I was going to add Homestar, but MS Paint wouldn't let me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I, also, disagree with the use of this logo. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I still kinda like logo, mainly for text I've chosen. Feel free to improve the idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think anyone would get that it was supposed to be an encyclopedia. They would just see text and go, "what's that supposed to be." Logos are generally visual. I don't like it because I can't think of a way that this would be appealing.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I was tryin' make a logo like [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page Wiktionary]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 06:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I get that one because it uses a pronunciation key (or whatever you call it)... and varying font sizes, etc. Yours just looks like a paragraph from a book. But either way, even if it looked better I don't like the idea. Personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think the Wiktionary logo is pretty bland. Not what I would have chosen for something as exciting as the HRWiki.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Hang on. This might be cool in the background behind Homestar... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Even with Homestar, I think it's going to be too busy and not representitive enough to be a logo, but I'm willing to wait and see - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree. As a logo alone, it's quite bland, and as a background, it would be distracting. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Text woldn't work. 1.) It's boring. 2.) It wouldn't look right on this backround 3.) it makes no sense. Why couldn't you just put words as the logo. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Having the words as the background isn't such a bad idea. It might be a little distracting, but it might not be as distracting if the words are in faint print. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It would look bad also because Homestar is white and the background is white... a "wash out effect" would happen. It's not a very interesting idea, IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::I don't like this logo at all it would look like part of the page not a logo for the page.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 22:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I never really intended this logo to be a real logo; I just wanted to present my idea for a logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Everybody Everybody|Everybody, Everybody]]===
I made this one fairly quickly, it could use some better-looking text. Ideas, comments? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Very good! WAy better than I could do. So... cool. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:It has potential. But like you said, look for some better text. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Seems a little bright to me, might not match with the current background. But as Lapper said, it does have potential. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I really am quite against featuring EVERY major character on the logo. I just think it makes it cluttered plus it's hard to do in a 150x150 spaced area and still look good. They're SO TINY on that image that you can barely see them. To bring them closer where you CAN see them makes it that much harder to put them ALL in there. Do you see where I'm going with this? Homestar by himself or with say the second leading character (Strong Bad) is about as much into this kind of idea of multiple characters as I think we need to get. Because really, it's not like people visiting here are going to not know there are more characters. TBC don't have every character on their main intro page, and the website IS Homestar Runner.com after all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, Homsar's not in it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:I have nothing against trying to get more characters into the logo (although I'm against making Strong Bad central), but I agree with BleedOrange that the chances of anything simular to this actually making it so that it's clear and recognizable is slim at best, so with so many options, I vote no to this one fo'sure fo'sure - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#FCUSA Puzzle|FCUSA Puzzle]]===
The logo is a renderation of the wikipedia logo with Free Country on it. It signifies that we continueously build on the Homestar Runner World. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 22:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:The logo itself isn't bad (but not great either), but I am a bit disturbed by the idea that we "build" on the world of Homestar Runner, because while we look inside that world at things deeper, we're not really adding to the world TBC created in any way really. As far as the logo goes, I like the idea, the logo itself isn't that simple though, or really all that clear. But it is a good general idea for a design focus. The other thing is I'm not entirely sure that using the globe puzzle, a logo should make a "brand" (in this case the site) distinctive from other simular sites, so thats my view on this. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I'm not saying that we're adding to the world of Homestar Runner, I'm saying that as the Homestar Runner universe expands, we add onto the wiki, building on the information of the world of Homestar Runner as more things are divulged. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok. Makes more sense to me now. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think you should cut out Homestar and the background and put Homestar Runner WikI under it and it'll look like Wikipedia. --[[User:Gert7|Gert7]] 08:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::As Ilko said, we don't want top connect our identity too much to another website. [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 11:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I really like the "cleanliness" of this logo. The strong black lines around the globe and the kamikaze bg. Although I think it's a little odd of the placement of homestar's head and the font. I still like it and with some work it could be better. I do agree that using the puzzle concept still connects us strongly to wikipedia... and it probably would require (maybe) their permission as well.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think there's too much going on in this one. It's also too close to the Wikipedia logo for my taste.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Field|Field]]===
I kind of like this one...and the field is a good background for the logo. What about Homestar, SB, and maybe one or two others gathered around the stick? Or maybe that would be too cluttered. Hmm.... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This isn't bad, but the field seems a little non-specific for a logo. Not first place in my book - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think this would be my favorite if it had the kamikaze background. But I see there could be a problem with the lines converging. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I like having The Field as a background. It's a good general representation of the H*R universe. One of my favorites right here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad|Homestar and Strong Bad]]===
:This is a pretty good concept: I like the inclusion of Strong Bad as well as Homestar, since both are equally central to the Homestar Runner body of work. If we end up liking this design, there are some small suggestions I could make, but as an overall design I think it shows great promise. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Not to into this. I like the idea. But not this logo.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's cool. BUT I don't don't like the blinking. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The thing I don't like is the font. Dark on dark? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:Too too much Strong Bad focus along with color and font issues. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field|Homestar and Strong Bad in the Field]]===
I liked the idea above, but not the logo itself. So I put them in the field. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like a lot of things about this: I like the inclusion of both SB and HR, the foreground/background juxtaposition, and the classic setting of The Field. In my mind, this is a strong candidate. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's a very nice logo. I'm using it on my monobook right now. I increased the brightness so it blended better with the Wiki. It looks pretty good on my 'puter and I think it has a lot going for it. Features the two main characters in a classic and common setting for the toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm still happy with the original, but of the prospective future logos, this one is my favorite. Simple but effective. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Also my favorite... I like Homestar coming in from the side, and I love Strong Bad's pose. Excellent. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Very professional looking. Not my personal favorite, but one of my favorites. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking over them all this ''might'' (I'm not sure) be my favorite. It 1) doesn't have just Homestar, 2) has Strong Bad, and 3) looks, well, logolike. I can't quite explain that, but it has a certain logociousness that, say, Weclome Back doesn't. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with AbdiViklas. This logo looks ''very'' professional and a lot like a logo. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 01:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one's my favorite and Official Logo Homestar gets second place. This design really does look professional, unlike some that would be more appropriate for the informal fanstuff wiki. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 13:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:While I do think this is above average as a logo for the site (in that it is pretty clean and recognizeable), I don't like that it seems to focus on Strong Bad with Homestar seeming to interupt him, if we go with anything with both involved (which I am very against anywho) it should have Homestar at center and Stongbad in the background and mostly out of frame. Also I think Homestar should have his mouth closed in any logo design, it's just more professional. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::While I hear what you're saying, I'm not sure I understand it: Why do you feel so strongly that it should be just Homestar, or Homestar-centric? (Um, aside from the fact that it's called the "Homestar Runner Wiki", I supppose.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::There are a few ways to look at it: 1) if this is your first experience with the world of Homestar Runner, you would expect the character at the center of the logo to be Homestar Runner. 2) We are Homestar Runner Wiki, and not Homestar and Strong Bad Wiki, while Strong Bad is important to the H*R universe, he is not the "focus" of the site 3) Our logo and thus our "brand" has been Homestar-centric, and thus to remove him from the focus really changes our "brand" and I'm not sure thats needed.
All of this is comes back to the same thing you said, our name is Homestar Runner Wiki, and our logo should represent either the entirety of the website, or the character for which the site we're a wiki about was named. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:To me, it looks more like Strong Bad's in the background, while Homestar is closer to the viewer. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar in Front of Logo|Homestar in Front of Logo]]===
This is a simple redesign, but design is different than others in a way that its so unoriginal, its original. Think about it.--{{User:Strong Devon/sig}}01:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:Thought about it. No, I don't like it. Not clean enough or clear enough to be a recognizable branding (logo) for the wiki. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Homestar STAR|Homestar STAR]]===
A cool idea I had. I can do lots of things with this idea, but this is the general concept. He could blink, the star's contrast could be less... his could be more... etc. etc. I accidently flattened a layer while making it, so it was impossible to further change the star's outline. So I'd have to redo it if it was picked to change that part... that or edit a new outline over the current. Anyway. Here's the concept. Whatcha tink?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:My initial reaction is I like it alot as is. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 02:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

::I like this one a lot. I think this, Kamikaze Full Boyd, World or the Current Updated are the best designs. While I'm still trying to figure out my top favorite, this is definitely one of them.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Jokestar Runner|Jokestar Runner]]===

It's dot Joey! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:This logo would be perfect! Unfortunately, I don't think we could get permission to use that picture from TBC ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::Since when do we ask TBC for persmission to use pictures? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually. that's the next project after the logo redesign: send TBC individual emails about each image on the wiki asking for their permission to use them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Funny! Funny. That...is a joke, right? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 01:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yep — it's a joke :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Have TBC given any indication that they want us to do that? If they email one of you and said that they'd prefer for us to get permission to use their images, then ok, we respect their wishes. But since we've been at this for half a decade and if they haven't complained, then I would consider it a severe annoyance to email them about every image. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 02:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::See above :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, we've only been at this for three years. Point still taken, though. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Kamikaze Full Body|Kamikaze Full Body]]===
This is like the idea with the logo but without. It's my personal favorite. I think it is the best example of what the new logo should be like. Similar to before but with a refreshing twist.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:If this section symbolizes [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|18, 24, and 25]] as a whole, I vote for No Logo Homestar style. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah that's what I meant for this section to symbolize.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Then yeah, all for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I really like this one. Simple, but updated. Not too much going on, but newer.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 05:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Heck yeah! [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|24]] is my favorite. I think this is the style we should go with, personally.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::This version of the logo is my personal fave. The old background with the new Homestar. Because he's what the site is all about and don't you forget it! If you try to bring other character to the logo, some (like me) will complain why you left out that other character. Blinking or not, I don't care. but I want '''this one'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Would prefer a more strait redesign of the current if we went this route, but it's ok - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I almost like this one. The only thing I dislike is the white outline around Homestar. It's too thick. I would like it is it were fading into the blue like the current logo. Also, I dislike the crampedness of the words "Homestar Runner". Maybe if Homestar were further down a little, and the words were a little bigger. I don't know. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Between this one and the current one, I think the current one is better. It's simpler, more visible, and Homestar looks (and is) more intelligent with his mouth closed. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with all others who have this as their favorite. It's a subtle, yet powerful change that is just what this wiki needs. It keeps the simplicity of the old logo, but with a twist. Pretty awesome. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree as well. This logo is just what everyone is used to, but updated.{{User:Flamer8965/sig}}
::::::::::This one's definitely my favourite too. I've got it set as my logo in [[User:Loafing/monobook.css]] for over a week now, and I'm pretty happy with it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be much disapproval for this logo. I still think it's better than any of the others. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:Argh, the white blur! It burns my eyes! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::I fixed the lines behind Homestar. They are no longer crooked.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

====Kamikaze Full Body Blurred====
I decided to make the background out of focus. Here's what it looks like.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:I think this is quite a bit better than the regular Kamikaze Full Body. I'll go for this. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::It's okay, but can you please lessen the white glow around Homestar? Make it less intense, like the current logo. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I like this one. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 00:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Lappy|Lappy]]===
This one is interesting and the lettering is pretty nice, I think, but the animation will probably lose it's novelty after a while and annoy some users. I have nothing against animation (like homestar blinking) but not as constant as this. Maybe a static version could be used? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't like the cursor blinking either. But I do like the concept. I can make strong bad in it too ya know. It's just the idea. I can take away/add to it. It's best to leave it as one character though, for the reasons that this image is too small for too much more to be going on in it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Good concept, the design as a whole doesn't seem to quite hit me as a "recognizeable logo" but it's again something that could be worked with I think, better than alot of options in my eyes, but still not the best - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::The blinking is kind of distracting. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agreed. To me, all the animations are distracting. A simple and easy to remember logo is what I'm going for. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Weighed against the other (and now better) ideas. I don't like this one much anymore. Blinking, stationary or uhh.. blinking. It's nice, but not nice enough to be the WIKI logo IMO.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo Homestar|Official Logo Homestar]]===
Summarizing the objections from [[HRWiki:Da Basement/Archive 7#Updating the WIKI Logo|above]], including the official logo in ours may cross an ethical boundary. Despite this, I think this is an example of a way to broaden the scope of our logo from Homestar the character to the Homestar Runner body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:The black one above, does a better job of being a logo for the wiki, as I concur that this makes us seem a little too connected to H*R.com and TBC.
::I would like it better if the logo was in front of Homestar. With him in front, it's hard to read what the logo says. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::His star is supposed to be replacing the one in the logo, if I'm getting this right. Instead of this: h*r It's this: h/*\r Get it? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Official Logo with Green Wiki|Official Logo with Green Wiki]]===
Looks GWEAT. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:A branding issue with this one. Makes us seem way too connected with the official world of Homestarrunner.com. We need to be sure to keep our brand distinct from TBCs as while this site wouldn't exist otherwise, we are completely seperate and not connected in any way, thus our logo needs to represent that. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I just don't see how using the official logo in our logo is any different than using Homestar in our logo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::A definition of a logo(edited from Wikipedia): "A logo is a graphic element or icon of a trademark or brand. A typical logo is designed to cause immediate recognition by the viewer. The logo's shapes, colors, fonts and images are usually different from others in a similar market." Thus to use the official logo of Homestarrunner.com as the main focus of our logo is to give the impression that we are part of that brand, which we are not. This is also part of the reason I think we shouldn't stray too far from the logo we already have (Homestar-centric as someone called it). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Very well put.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
This, is, actually the ''first'' suggested logo change, taken from [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 2]] at [[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]'s request. I think it's well crafted. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'll concur that this is a GREAT logo, everything I'd want in a logo if it was my company (simple, easily identifiable, very well connected to the subject represented, presenting a positive and professional image.) Yet, the branding issue is a major problem, there's unfortunately (at least in my mind) no real way to get around it, to make enough changes to avoid potential trademark infringement (or at least intellectual property infringement if it's not a trademarked logo) we'd be cheapening our brand to that of a cheap rip-off of an original (see lots of store brand sodas or "fake" watches and jewelry brands.) Also I stand by the fact that to move too far from what the logo we've got now is not just changing our logo, but rebranding our entire effort, which I do not see as being something we need right now. (If we had changed our mission or our way of operating or something else then yes, we should look at rebranding ourselves, but we haven't.) As is, the only reason to update the wiki logo seems to be that we want to modernize to better represent the subject of the site and just to look more "current" with the times. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::I won't mention the H*R logo problem. We've heard plenty of that. But I will say that I definitely don't like the green "Wiki" font. For some reason, the green with the red and blue or the regular H*R logo makes me think of this logo like a kid's toy or something. I just don't like it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think I definitely like this one best. Less is more. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}

=== [[HRwiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old Homestarrunner|Old Homestar]] ===
I made this logo with paint (so excuse me for the bad picture) of the Old Homestarrunner standing next to a light green oval with the text HRWiki and standing in front of a white background. - [[User:Sherlockrunner|Sherlockrunner]]

:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!]] No. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 17:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::To be less blunt than The Mu, it needs work. Lots and lots of work. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 18:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Old New Star|Old New Star]]===
I'm not sure how much this crosses the boundaries of too much. But I thought it'd be kind of neat if the logo could switch back and forth between the original design for Homestar and the current. The one in the example above is set for 15 second intervals. But I made a [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew30.gif 30 second] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrstar_oldnew60.gif 60 second] one as an example. The 15 second is just so you don't have to wait around forever to see it. The 30 or 60 is the actual timer I think it should have. Most people would see it as it is. Just a regular logo, those who stick around for awhile might notice it changed. They'd be like, wait a second... wasn't that a diff. Homestar? It will loop back and forth every 30 or 60 seconds from the original design to the current. It's not a very big file size either. Only around 20 kb.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 04:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the still image of Homestar (current) in front of the old star, but I don't like the animation. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::No matter what is decided, I think that this will deserve a paragraph in [[A_History|our history]] once we all decide. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 05:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I basically copied the way TBC animated it. So, uhm, what are you saying man! You don't like TBC's animation!?! lol. And yeah, this is pretty historical. Err, hysterical. Hysterically long.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::TBC rarely morph between Homestars if ever. I don't like the looking of going from old to new, it looks rough and abrupt. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Go look at Strongest Man in the world... that's where it's from. I did take out two frames of the animation to get file size down, but otherwise I did it exactly how they did. It doesn't have to be animated either. This is a '''DESIGN IDEA''', it's for the design itself, not just the animation. I can make it stationary too. I kind of like it more stationary anyway. Although I had to animate it. You say TBC never morph between them, but that's not the point. The point is that it morphs between them so sometimes it's the original design and sometimes it is not. It's supposed to be abrupt. I could make it .. fade.. into the other but I promise that wouldn't look as good. How do YOU think it should be animated if you don't like it. Got any ideas? :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 16:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Now I made another version where he just blinks (NO MORPHING)... [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hsnewstar_blinks.gif stationary - just blinks]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 17:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Bleed, you really don't need to get this defensive. You are doing some fine work here but not everyone is going like everything that you do. As I stated above, I like this one stationairy like the link that you post immediately above. Keep up the good work. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not a big fan of the multi-homestar options, we're an encylopedia, not just a history textbook, also this one strikes me as a little too much like something that would be on the website, and we should keep arms length from that in my mind. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:: First of all, IRF, I'm NOT getting defensive. I don't know what you got out of what i said, but I didn't take offense. I wanted it to be CLEAR that this is an idea for a logo and it does not have to morph, blink or do anything at all than be a stationary image. Which is why I pointed out "design idea," and I could go on defending what I said but the point is I wasn't offended at all. I asked how he thought it should be animated because I'd actually like to hear some new ideas if you don't like something. Don't just say, oh well I don't like this... why not say what you would like as well? Anything I say on here is me trying to make clear either WHY I did something one way or that it's just an IDEA and I welcome more. Or I wouldn't continue to keep making logos. And, Skev, I don't see a reason why we should keep away from something that would be on the website. Just because Homestar is standing in front of a star isn't a big deal. I could have him stand in front of a field, kamikaze blue rays or a million other things... but it will all be derived from something on the site. The current logo is like something you would see on the site. So that's my thoughts on this. Oh and I also made a transparent version of the logo. See [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/star.gif this link here for transparent version of the logo]. That's it for now!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I changed the animation, it's a lil smoother now. I think. 20 second interval.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Once again, the animation could be distracting. I'm all in favor of a still image, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Puzzle|Puzzle]]===
This is an interesting logo. You can't really see the characters underneath the puzzle design, which only represents one part of the wiki (the lots of different article "pieces" part). So it's overshadowing the main concept here, even though I must admit that the logo itself looks really awesome. Oh, and I [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_15#Just_Kinda_Wonderin.27...| totally called the slogan]]. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 16:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think this one's pretty cool, and very professional-looking. The only flaw is that it's a little hard to see the details on the pieces when it's logo-sized... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like this one as a logo, but due to the problems mentioned above, it should not be the main branding logo of the site, if we were a company, I would highly recomend this as a secondary informal logo (for backgrounds, stationary, art, immaging) , so as much as I LOVE this one in every way shape and form, for our purposes, *sigh* - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Running Intro|Running Intro]]===

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Then and Now|Then and Now]]===
I like this particular new idea because... quite honestly, it's going to be very hard to get multiple characters with-in the small logo and have them large enough to visibly see in a nice way. Homestar is, technically, the main character and alone can represent the toon itself... which is why he is on the main pages on the official site. This idea shows how far H*R has come from old to new, and is themed around the original book. Which is always nice. :)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like that one, except It seems a little simplistic. Maybe the Homestars could be moved up a little, and have the lettering the same as either the one we have now, the star themed one, or the darker outline one? {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah I could do that. But I was trying to copy the way TBC actually did it on the book. I could make it show all of both Homestar's bodies.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 03:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I think maybe we could do half old half new (i.e. the old field and homestar on one side new field and homestar on the other)? Just a thought.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Don't think much of this both for the reasons mentioned in the "field" and in "then and now" - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like it. But, I don't like the possition of "the homestar runner wiki." {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Weclome Back|Weclome Back]]===
One aspect that I like about this one is that by including multiple characters, it better represents that this is the Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon) Wiki, and not the Homestar Runner (character) Wiki. I'm interested in seeing other logos that incorporate multiple characters or perhaps just Homestar and Strong Bad. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like the [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink2.gif blinkage style]--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::If Homestar is blinking, shouldn't Marzi blink too? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Marzi does blink.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki_hrmarziblink.gif I like this one the best.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:This is too busy for a logo, it isn't something that will be easily connected to the wiki itself in my mind, and it's just really busy. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::What do mean "busy?" --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/busy "Full of distracting detail"], probably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::This one's pretty good, except the text is kinda hard to read. Other than that, good logo. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just to clear things up, I'm pretty sure the [[The King Of Town|KOT]], [[Marzipan|Marzi]], and [[Homestar]] all blink in this logo. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::The King never blinks. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I swear I saw his eyes move...--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#Wiki_Globe|Wiki Globe]]===
I realize that I am not the best graphic designer in the world, but I think that the general idea comes across. The faces need a little bit more work to "sync" better with the globe, and Homestar's face may need to be a little more prominent. Besides that, this is pretty much the concept. I'm not sure if the Wikipedia logo can be used like this, but I don't see why not. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:While it's a nice idea, this would make us look affiliated with 'Kipedia. Some folks are already confusing us as it is, and I don't think we should enforce that perception. I strongly prefer an independent logo of our own.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::In answer to your last sentence, Ation, this kind of falls under the discussions above about using the H*R logo as part of our own. (I.e. might not be okay, and even if it's okay, maybe not desirable.) Although I wouldn't be nuts about this as a logo, I ''do'' think it's awesome. (This, by the way, is what I immediately thought of when I saw "Puzzle".) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::On the subject of whether this would be allowed, I suggest you look at [[User:Soapergem/Legal]] – though that was about [[:Image:Homestarpedia.png|Homestarpedia.png]], and we'd have to ask them again if we chose this logo, I expect we'd get a similar response. Personally, I agree with Loafing, the line between us and Wikipedia already seems muddied enough, to new users... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Agree with the above comments. Nonetheless, it does look really cool! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:In addition to the Wikipedia issues, we are not Strong Bad Wiki. You're not doing any favors to first time visitors with this one. We need to make sure the logo represents what we're about to someone with no idea who we are (or maybe even Homestar is). - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I made some changes to the logo. Mostly, changes the globe from Strong Bad's head to Homestar's hat, rearranged faces, and "coolified the letters". People think it's better or worse? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 00:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Much better, but many of the issues from above still are in play - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
===[[HRWiki:Logo redesign 2006#World|World]]===
I made a brand new logo that I think works very well. Everyone's opinion is always different but I like it. For one thing, it incorporates a globe behind Homestar... we're like an encyclopedia to the world about Homestar Runner, many people using the Wiki are from all around the globe. This shows that. It uses the fictional globe in which Free Country, USA exists, so it also doubles as a symbol of the HR world. Homestar is standing there. Obviously. And it stands out from most of the other ideas, the website itself and is very different from the original logo. I made a few different colors for the background. A grey, blue and brown one. I tried other colors and trust me, they don't look as good.
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey.png Grey]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue.png Blue]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Brown.png Brown]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Grey Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Blue_Bl.gif Blue Blinks]
*[http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/Logo_Redesign_World_Grey_Bl.gif Brown Blinks]
And just in case you are wondering how it would look ON the wiki. I made a GIF image that cycles between them as an example. It's low quality, but it gives you the idea. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/exampleworld.gif Example of Logo on the Wiki Itself]. I am a big fan of either the '''Grey''' or '''Blue''' ones. I don't like the Brown so much. And I'd actually prefer it to be stationary, but I made some that blink too. I could always make the blink times less or more. Anyway, what do you think?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 20:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Due to requests.. I changed the main idea to a lighter colored background. Which I like better too. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/lightergrad.png VIEW UPDATED IDEA HERE]. And if we wanted to change the favicon, it could always be the image of the globe itself without homestar in front of it.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::That new one is very cool, although I don't really like how his shadow is going to the right, as if the light is coming from the right. It sort of conflicts with the shadow that TBC already put there. If you removed the spotlight, that would make it perfect. (He's floating a little too. You might want to remove the shadow below him.) I wouldn't really like shading in the logo at all, if nessicary, because you want it to seem like it's looking straight at you. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Per your requests.. I removed the shadow on Homestar (agreed it contradicts the established shadow, though I could move it to the other direction). [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_somechanges.png View Some Changes on the logo]. How's that?--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think that it looks great now, nice and slick. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::I like it... a lot. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I changed the direction of the shadow, and did one without the shadow... changing the way Homestar faces to being the right. Take a look [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/World_shadowleft.png With Shadow Facing Right] and [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/hrwiki/world_noshadow.png Without Shadow Facing Right].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 21:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::It still seems a little weird to me with the shadow, now it's conflicting the world's shadow. (Plus, Homestar's a little off center). I do think that the one without the shadow is great. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Corrected some problems with the one where he faces right with no shadow. (I made the other side of the globe darker on accident) [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/facerightnoshad.png View Corrected One Here].--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, this gets my vote. It cooooool. It reallyhas nothing to do with the wiki exept for the homestar. But alright. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I love this one. Probably my second favorite. Good representation of the Homestar universe. Not too simple, not too busy. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Can you make Homestar blink in that logo? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::Having Homestar blink would probably mess up all the awesome gradiants Bleed0range has in there, so it would probably be messy (and impractical) to make him blink. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Good point. The awesome gradients of this logo would match the awesome gradients of the Main Page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::The Kamikaze full body is no longer my personal fave. This one is definitely my personal favorite of them all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree. This one is very awesome. Except, the gradient mixed with the world's shadow. Maybe getting rid of the world's shadow would help? (Curse those shadows! They always seem to get the best of you!) - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Nah, I think the gradient around the globe is necessary. It makes it look nicer than without. I tried it without and I didn't think it looked very good. The gradient is what helps give the globe a three dimensional feel. Things can have multiple shadows. Getting rid of the world's shadow would be a very difficult photoshop edit that would require a lot lot lot of time and probably not even look very good. I tried increasing the brightness... that didn't work. I'd have to piece it together using like the clone stamp tool or something which... *sigh* would take forever and like I said, probably look awful.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Even with this logo, which looks fine, I still firmly believe in the 18/24/25 version. But then, it's a personal choice that I'm going for minimal change here. I just want to preserve the integrity of our original logo as much as possible, and I don't feel any of these other logos fulfill that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Holy crap this one is way better than the full body logo I totally change my vote to this one like Bleed0range {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 20:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
While I don't see what's wrong with our current logo, this is probably my favorite of the new ones. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:This one is very good, and I think it would look awesome with a transparent background (much in the same way [[Wikipedia:Image:Wikipedia-logo-en.png|Wikipedia's logo]] lays on top of the page). We can discuss these details more if we end up picking this logo, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
::I do like this one. It does very little to mess with the current branding of the site and organization while updating the logo to something that feels more "modern". It is fairly simple to recognize, exclusive to this site, and makes good conections to what we're about here at the wiki. It makes my top 5 (behind Homestar STAR and Current Updated, and along with Basement and Puzzle) - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 17:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, this one has a lot of potential as a transparent logo. It wouldn't even have to be saved as a real transparent GIF or, in its case, alpha-blended PNG (due to the shadow), since its place on the page is static; we can just insert that portion of the page background underneath it and flatten it. But the globe and shadows would have to be tweaked so that the shadows don't "run" outside the 150×150 space allotted. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 21:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:I agree with Joshua completely. If the logo must be changed, please let it be to this one. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 23:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::This one is my favorite. The only thing that I don't like is the font. If we are selecting a new logo, why not a new font? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:I like this one. It's pretty cool. Though I DO agree that the font needs to be changed....

==<s>Other ideas</s> (submission time expired)==
<s>Do you have a great logo idea but not the graphic design tools to make it yourself? Post your idea here, and someone may try to make it.</s>

Another suggestion, which in no way discounts my support for the current logo with Homestar's current design, is [http://www.hrwiki.org/logoright/logo.php]. Perhaps one of those images? I especially like the one in AhnbergHand. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe A big star in the background with "Homestar Runner" in a arch and "Wiki" in a bowl like shape with Homestar and Strong Bad's Head {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

===Favicon===

There have been strong objects to using anything a logo that [[:Image:Logo Redesign Official Logo Homestar.png|resembles]] [[:Image:hrwlogoidea-fixed.png|the]] [[:Image:Logo Redesign Old New Star.gif|offical]] [[:Image:logo.png|Homestar Runner site logo]]. Here is a [[:Image:Official_style_logo.png|screen print]] of the QOTW page. You will notice 4 times where we've used the official h*r logo. #'s 2, 3, and 4 can be argued as legit because they do link the official site, but #1 (the icon at the top which also appears in your bookmarks) doesn't have anything to do with the official but our site. I propose that if so many people feel that we shouldn't be using the h*r logo, we also shouldn't be using it in the address bar of the browser. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, the favicon doesn't stick out as much as the logo, and as you said, the rest are links to the official site. If we adopted the Homestarrunner logo as our logo, I think that that would just be intense copycatting. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 14:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::Although I certainly don't see any reason that, once we get done with this, we don't turn our attention to a new favicon. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely. We already addressed this briefly at the [[HRWiki:Da_Basement/Archive 7#favicon|original discussion]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:What's a favicon? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::A [[Wikipedia:Favicon|favicon]] is what IRF circled a 1) in his screenshot.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. But that'll probably just change with whatever logo we end up picking, right? What's the use of having a logo and a favicon that look completely different from each other? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 23:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I guess that's hard to answer until we've picked one, but the size differences might matter. A favicon has to be able to look good and be recognizable in very small dimensions. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::The favicon has doesn't match our current logo so it doesn't logically follow that it would change too. I think the onyl reason that it would change is all the recent discussion about the official logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It would be, in my opinion, hypocritical not to change the favicon after the discussion about the official logo not being used in the logo. The favicon uses the H*R logo, which, according to many user's opinion's here, would be immoral. If you can't use it in the logo, then you shouldn't be able to associate the official logo with any other part of the Wiki itself, including the favicon. So I think it HAS to be changed if the majority of user's believe you can't use the H*R logo in the Wiki logo. I'd find it hard to argue that point.{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::So everybody stop talking and make something. It need not match whatever we go with for our big logo. Also, we will use variations of it at the fanstuff and forum, so keep that in mind. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Idc, I tried for an hour last friday to find the actual graphic for the favicon, so that I could study it in terms of dimensions, pixel size, and how it look when enlarged. If I could find the graphic file, I would be glad to propose favicons. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::The file is at [http://www.hrwiki.org/favicon.ico favicon.ico] for nearly all websites. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 19:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The image displayed by most browsers is 16×16 pixels. Ideas do not need to be in any particular format. We'll handle the technical details of converting it and whatnot. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Elvis

Elvis — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:15:26 GMT

Elvis: It's Elvis' Flippin' User Page! Yeah!

[[Image:hrwikiegg.jpg|hrwikiegg.jpg]]
This is weird.

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Hi guys. Elvis here. I'm a hopping editor (I hit random, and see what I can do).
So...Why do you care, I don't know.

Talk:Fan Costumes '06

Elvis — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:08:52 GMT

Elvis: /* "Ho-ties?" */

==TGS-esque Voices?==
This might just be me, but the teen kid and gravely mum/mom voices sound a bit like characters from Teen Girl Squad. Do you think they did voices like that on purpose? Because the Mom sounds sorta like The Ugly One, or one of the other members of the Squad. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 09:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Both TGS and the commentary were done by Strong Bad, so they are bound to sound similar.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I was thinking that the teenage boy voice sounded like teenage Strong Bad from [[highschool]]. I don't think they're intentional references though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::But there is a chance that TBC chose that style of voices for it. (Croaky, high Stongbad voices) Is that qulaification for a fact or is it too much of a stretch? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 09:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::My interpretation is that Strong Bad was choosing from his repertoire of croaky voices to make fun of the guy in the picture, not necessarily trying to draw reference to the TGSers. (I may be wrong though.) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::To me, the Mom voice sounds a lot like Delililea (or however you spell that) from the email Senior Prom. But yeah, it's TTATOT. The croaky SB voice style is prevalent throughout the site. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 04:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Definitely TTATOT. But just to share ''how'' TTATOT - I hear a lot of PBTC Strong Bad in the last "teenager" line. Of course. that's ridiculous. We have to realize that all these different voices are by one guy, and hey, some of them will sound alike from time to time. That does not, however, mean it's a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

== Transcript Uncertainties ==

There were a couple lines in the transcript that I wasn't sure about:
<blockquote>
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes. Thank you. Tonight.
</blockquote>
Could this be "Good night"?
<blockquote>
'''STRONG BAD:''' What's this guy smilin' about? {in a mocking voice} Oh, yeah. I just got promoted to the three-foot-wide cubicle. Now I can fit four to three post-its on my wall. Hey Doogen, you stayin' after tonight for the LAN party?
</blockquote>
I'm really not sure about these, especially the Local Area Network party... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'd say that It 's more likely to be goodnight. But I think the LAN party thing shows up SB's lack of computer knowlege, rather than a mistranscribe. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 09:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, "Good night." makes more sense contextually...I just had trouble hearing the "g" sound. Go ahead and change it if you're confident in what you hear. :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first one is probably "Tonight". He said it a lot in local news, and that's what it sounds like to me. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Drat, it can work both ways. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 10:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::It's "tonight" from [[local news]]. It's a hard reference.
<blockquote>'''STRONG BAD:''' Good evening and tonight. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, well, thank you, tonight. 
 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{commentary}'' ...So, if you're a news...carster...you gotta...you gotta say "tonight" as much as possible. 
'''MIKE:''' Mmhmm. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I learned. 
'''MIKE:''' Well, you say it a lot in this email. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, you're supposed to. Because you have to remind people, or they'll think it's the afternoon news, and they'll turn it off. Nobody wants to watch that crap. 
'''MIKE:''' No, just the evening news. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Evening— 
'''MIKE:''' "Tonight." 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Tonight. The tonight news. We should have called it that. 
 
''{simultaneously, after newscaster Strong Bad says "Yes. Well, thank you. Tonight."}'' 
'''MIKE:''' There, he said... There, he did... So, Bubs... Bubs is... 
'''STRONG BAD:''' See? Because, see, someone was about to change the channel, they'd be like, "Oh, this is the—this is noonday. I don't want to watch noonday." Oh! Yeah... 
 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{After newscaster Strong Bad says "tonight" again}'' ...See? Once again, that was, like, five more viewers— 
'''MIKE:''' That doesn't even make any sense. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughs}'' What do you mean? 
'''MIKE:''' I mean, you're just saying "tonight." 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I s—I kept reiterating that it is tonight! 
'''MIKE:''' And you never told us what the World in Crisis was about. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's to get you to come back tomorrow night and watch.</blockquote>
::—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Doogen sounds like a good enough guess to me. It's probably his last name. LAN party, definitely. Geeky people at the office have LAN parties. Just like me and people from my workplace. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Mario and the KOT ==

I put this fun fact in, but I'll admit it's a bit of a stretch:
*The Mario costume in the background of one of the pictures may be a reference to the King of Town, who dressed up as Mario in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
What do you guys think? Keep, or is it too far a stretch?
*The Al Roker losing a lot of weight in regards to Strong Sad also is too much of a stretch. It's just a skinnier guy dressed up as SS, just like the above is just a guy dressed as Mario standing next to a guy dressed like HSR.
:We don't note references that are made by other people as references. TBC didn't make a Mario reference, the submitter of the photo did. So I say it's unnotable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I was immediately reminded of this when I saw it but I don't think it's a reference. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:I was reminded of myself on Halloween when I saw this. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

== Not Necessarily ==

To me, it sounds like Homestar is saying "Not necessary", which would make more sense in the context. --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 14:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

:"Necessarily" makes perfect sense. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Missing Picture ==

Has anyone noticed that when you scroll your mouse over the fan costumes '06 button in the holiday section you see a picture of a Homestar costume in the preview box and it's not in the cartoon.[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 14:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Quake? ==

Is it just me or is it really the Quake logo on strong bads mask on pic 13? [[User:Cyberdemon]] 7:03am, 7 Nov 2006
:No, it's not the Quake logo. It's just a really badly drawn version of that one silver "V" thing on Strong Bad's mask. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 21:15, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Mushrooms ==

Homestar saying that Luigi tasted like Mushrooms is a reference to the Mushroom Powerups and overall mushroominess of all the Mario games.

== Cubicle guy ==

Am I insane or is his head -significantly- too small to be a human head? Is that guy a puppet or something?
:You may be insane. Or huge-headed. But that's speculative. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

==Change The Picture, You Guys==
That lady creeps me out.
:What? Not even The Cheat is scared by that ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

== Coach Z in the fizzoyay... ==

Should it even be noted that Coach Z pronounces foyer "foy-a" as opposed to "foy-er"? They're both perfectly valid.

== Gron Sad's voice ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound a bit odd in this one? It sorta sounds to me like Mike did the voice, maybe. The inflection is very different from usual and also the pitch, more like the one of the older style Strong Sads.
:I agree. The first time I watched it, I thought maybe Strong Bad was doing an impression of him, since it didn't really sound like something Strong Sad would actually say. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe that's what he sounds like after losing weight. I don't know. It's all speculative. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:I remember they said on one of the commentaries that sometimes Mike will do Strong Sad, because Matt can't do it right if his voice is strained at all. So that's probably all this is. But like Qermag said, it's still just speculation. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 16:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

== "Margie" ==

I don't think that SB saying "Margie" is a mistake. If you look closely, you can see that the Marshie costume has eyelashes for no apparent reason, making it look like a female version of Marshie. SB saying "Margie" is just poking fun at that, not an {sic}. [[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 17:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

:No, I agree that it's intentional, but I think the [[HRWiki:Glossary#S|''{sic}'']] is there to let people know that it's ''not'' a mistake. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

== "Ho-ties?" ==

Did TBC just sacrifice the no-swearing rule to make a bad joke? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:No, I'm sure it's just another one of Strong Bad's weird pronounciations. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::There is no "no-swearing rule", they just try to keep it generally clean. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, so what in nine hecks is ho-ties supposed to be? Ok just as I typed that I got it-- ho_ties -- See? It's totally hotties minus a 't'. [[User:Elvis|That Guy with the Sideburns]]

Free Country, USA

Elvis — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:42:19 GMT

Elvis: /* Futuristic Free Country? */

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|+<big><big>'''Free Country, U.S.A'''</big></big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 |
{| border=0 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 style="background:#f9f9f9;"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:FCUSAMaybe.PNG|125px|FCUSA from space, maybe.]] FCUSA from space, maybe.
|}
|-
| colspan=2 align=center |
|-
| '''Language''' || [[Wikipedia:English language|English]]
|-
| '''Nominal Monarch''' || [[The King of Town]]
|-
| '''Population''' || [[Characters|19, at least]]
|-
| '''Currency''' || [[Wikipedia:United States Dollar|U.S. Dollar]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|probably]]) [[lackey|Pencil Shavings]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|sometimes]]).
|}
'''Free Country, USA,''' is where the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner Universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA, features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[personal favorites|stone bridge]]. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance), a [[The Pond|pond]] and, apparently, a seashore with a wharf. The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Forest|woods]], as they contain at least one [[Cliffs|cliff]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's Locker Room|Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near the Athletic Field is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a "Town Hall" (discussed later) and the Marshmallow Stand, a once-popular haunt for [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] that has not been seen in a while but is presumably still around somewhere.

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with Pom Pom that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near Strong Badia. The forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Forest]] that we only see at night in Halloween themed episodes.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also the [[King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near the [[King of Town's Castle|King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's House|Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[House of the Brothers Strong|house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself, are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Insects|crickets]], [[Bees|bees]], at least one [[The Bug|fly]], [[Gavin|cockroach]], and the characters themselves, no animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

The [[King of Town]], at one point, had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]], since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[Jail|jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. But it is home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[Wrestleman|wrestleman]] and his yellow dog").

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there seems to be a "Town Hall" of sorts, which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque]]'' films, though not for actual political administration.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States, but no municipal, state or federal government seems to apply to it. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

More recently, the King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize his own military force headed up by [[The Poopsmith]] (as seen in [[disconnected]]). This would suggest that the King of Town wishes to return Free Country to a more [[Wikipedia:Feudalism|feudal]] style of governance.

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]] (as seen in [[army]]). Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[Tire|tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner related product]].

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice (in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]). It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]
===Employment===
Bubs works at his stand and as a general fix-it man. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), and [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work) work in some kind of an [[The Office|office]], at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose, as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7"s for [[Pi|pi]] dollars. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], none of which have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish, USA===
In the e-mail [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture, to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule which is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time we've seen the world from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[Holidays|holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (like its [[Presidents|presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA, is somewhere in America. The following collected observations may be used to further interpret the location of the territory:

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe that it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]]. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda" which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas, meaning he must live somewhere else.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA."

[[Category: Places]]

Talk:Bull Honkey

Elvis — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:28:41 GMT

Elvis: /* Minor Beverage */

==Minor Beverage==

This is a minor beverage, it was only used as a bevereage once. It should be moved to [[Minor Foods]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. This may have only been mentioned as a BEVERAGE once, but it discusses the subject that's been used, not just the drink [[User:HRfan222|HRfan222]]

:What makes a beverage minor, anyway? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::I guess it's considered minor because it only appeared once; and that's also why I think it should be moved to [[Minor Foods]]. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:07, 5 September 2006

'''Move it.''' If it is used again, make it it's own little article it can have for itself. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 21:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk:theme song

Bread

Elvis — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:53:55 GMT

Elvis: /* Appearances */

[[Image:breadsingalong.png|thumb|"...bread is a good time for everybody."]]

'''Bread''', in its many varieties, seems to be a highly popular commodity in [[Free Country, USA]]. Bread is a favourite of [[Homestar Runner]] in particular, possibly because it is a good source of carbohydrates for endurance athletes. At [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward Seattle 2006]], [[Mike Chapman]] demonstrated drawing in Flash, by spending 10 minutes drawing a piece of toast.

== Appearances ==
*Email [[duck pond]] — [[Strong Bad]] feeds bread to the [[Ducks|ducks]] on his computer.
*Email [[property of ones]] — The Warm One that Strong Bad list among the variations has a loaf of bread on the label.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]] — Homestar leaves a promo for "The Cornbread Hour" on [[Marzipan]]'s answering machine.
*Email [[interview]] — One of the post-it notes representing Homsar in the interview has a picture of "Bread?".
*Email [[origins]] — Strong Bad talks about how Homestar once held weekly bread sing-alongs at [[The Stick]].
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 3|Level 3]] — you have to collect "tenbread" to pass the level ([[Stinkoman]] loves bread, according to the [[Stinkomanual|manual]]).
*[[Some Stupid Turkey]] — The "turkey's" disembodied head is stuffed with a loaf of bread.
*Email [[disconnected]] — At the suggestion of [[Head Bad and Strong Body|Strong Bad's disembodied head]], Homestar starts a new career as Homestar Bunmaker, a vendor of tiny breads.
*[[Thy Dungeonman 3]] - These examples of in game commands are given at the beginning of the game: "LOOK BREAD", "GET BREAD", "TALK BREADMAN", and "USE BREAD".
*Email [[redesign]] — Strong Bad imagines frolicking through the bread aisle using his new green-screen wall.
*[[Summer Short Shorts]] - Homestar compares his relationship with [[Pom Pom]] as being "like two breads in a biscuit".

==Moldy bread==
*[[Fortune Cookies]] — One of the fortunes reads ''"Try eating moldy bread. You might not vomit."''
*[[Thy Dungeonman II]] — You have to keep eating moldy bread to keep the plague from killing you.
*Email [[do over]] — Homestar offers his version of "[[The Cheatcakes]]", which are actually a paper bag labeled "Moldy Bread, Guys".

[[Category:Food running gags]]
[[Category:Food and drinks]]

Talk:Summer Short Shorts

Elvis — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:55:27 GMT

Elvis: /* Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy */

==Pom Pom segment==
Anyone want to bet how long it'll take before someone claims this is a Naruto reference? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:You mean like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=348440&oldid=348439 here?] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::D'oh! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I was a bit fast on that one. But somehow you've just proven that it's obviously Naruto :-P {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Did any of you notice that part of this segment contradicts the "Strong Bad is in jail catoon"? In the begining of said cartoon, Strong Bad and The Cheat run up to Bub's Concession Stand which is shown right next to the woods. But when Pom Pom does that huge jump in this segment, it appears that Strong Badia is located between the woods and the Concession Stand. Weird o_0. [[User:Scholar of Homestar|Scholar of Homestar]] 15:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Obviously Naruto, or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or House of Flying Daggers, or any other film where people fly through the trees. Actually I'm inclined to say it's more of a reference to live action martial arts because of way Pom Pom hovers above the ground before seems to parody the effect of using counterweight harnesses to give the effect of actors jumping incredibly high. I've never seen any of the ninjas on Naruto do that. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's a reference to Prowlies at the River: http://www.biteycastle.com/prowlies.html
::::::Or it could be any movie/cartoon with lots of jumping through a forrest. as stated above.

== First forest ==

Is it worth mentioning that this is the first instance of a forest in the standard animation style? [[User:216.232.210.238|216.232.210.238]] 08:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Sure. I mean, that could be the creepy halloween forest during summer, but still...--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== pi=pie? ==
Does anyone else think the Pi reference in this and weclome back could tie in with the pie running joke?

:I think you got it [http://clampettstudio.com/images/archives/wb/WB1026-PiE.jpg confused]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Eggselent ==

I don't believe that Homestar says "Eggs, can I get you gentlemen..." I think he says the more logical "And". Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Definatly sounds like "And" to me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::I leaning towards "And". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Ef=ggs!
::::I think it should read "and", but I just wanted to say yes, I initially wondered whether he was saying "eggs". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Coz I hear a faint S sound on the end and I did the transcription is why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Raising the Seek Bar... ==

[[Image:LaBrea.PNG|thumb|Seek bars not spake here.]]
Lapper removed the Transcript edit about Cave Strong Bad's feet poking out from under the tar pit. He said it only comes up when you use a Seek Bar. I present to you: exhibit A. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I removed it because I checked on that a few hours ago and thought it was only the seek bar. But I did a very sloppy check. You were absolutely right. (btw, I'm not Lapper) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry. Guess you're not the only one who did a sloppy check. Happens to the best of us. And me, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== From the front to the back... ==

So these pants we are staring at: Are these from the front or the back? I can't really tell. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I say the front.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC) [[Image:Goodgraphics.PNG|thumb]]
::Back, and thus a double entendre on "end." [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 12:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Nice idea, but the same image is shown in the beginning and in the end.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Can't Really Tell. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}

== Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy ==

I think the lyrics for "Brain Sister" are wrong (The trancscriber didn't seem too confident anyway). The line "She's a {mile?} away" sounds like it ends "all day" to me, not "away". Obviously "She's a mile all day" makes no sense at all, So I'm pretty sure that whole line is wrong. Can anybody make it out? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:And I don't seem able to manage any more than "She {three syllables} all day". I'm giving up for now. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I can't quite make it out, but to me it sounds more like "a low-res beauty queen" rather than a "lonely". [[User:67.42.210.44|67.42.210.44]] 20:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it's something like "{something} texas all day". [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 20:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Fries and Catsup ==

Arn't they the same as from the e-mail [[funny]], from the "Computer Catsup" scene?
:Yes, unless you count "computer Catsup" as different. {{User:Steve/sig}} 17:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Tandy 400

Elvis — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:48:40 GMT

Elvis: Radio shack

{{featuredarticle}}

== For some reason ==

For some reason, Strong Bad has never referred to the Tandy as "the Tandy".

== Tandy's Gender ==

I think the Tandy must be a female computer since in the e-mail "sisters" (e-mail #35) Strong Bad says "and the old girl's working again" in the beginning. I refer to my computer as a female since the old clunker is very temperamental. (lol.) --[[User:Osiris-Kitty|Osiris-Kitty]] 01:55, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

* I don't think the computers were really ever given a specific gender. They're just computers. Besides, 'the old girl' is just a figure of speech. Good observation though. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 03:31, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)
*It should be noted that, in [[invisibility]], when the Tandy is lying in the trash, it says "Tell the printer I'll miss HER". -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**Yea, I noted that a few weeks ago, [[The Paper|here]]. Under 'Fun Facts' I think, or something. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 14:32, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Just because Tandy said "Tell the printer I'll miss her", it doesn't mean that Tandy is a male. Tandy and the printer could simply be friends. I think Tandy is a girl, and I think the Compy and the Lappy are guys. As for the Tangerine Dreams and the Pom Pilot, I'm not sure what their gender is. -- [[User:Ian911299|Ian911299]]
*Strong Bad refered to the Compy as his brother in virus --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:10, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Hmmm... Quite true. In that case, I don't WANT to know anymore... -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 17:32, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**That was nothing significant: just a slip of the tongue. He corrected himself immediately afterwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 19:21, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
:Whatever anything is, I find this debate seemingly pointless. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 15:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

== Steep Prices and Trees ==

:"[[Bubs]] later salvaged the Tandy 400 and sold it to [[The King of Town]] '''for $900'''."

Is this part true? Where is it from? I can recall [[Strong Bad]] needing $900 from [[Strong Sad]] to get a new computer in [[gimmicks]], but I can't find any info on how much Bubs sold it for. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:51, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I don't remember that, either. I've removed it until someone can show something different. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:26, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::"Tandy 400! Slightly Not-Working - Only $900!!" is what the title of the [[King_of_Town_Email]] page reads. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:30, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh, YEAH!! There it is. I couldn't remember. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:34, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Those Chapos with their subtleties! Amount put back in. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Real Computer ==

On the fact that the Tandy 400 was a real computer, it's true! I heard it from a librarian in an obscure library in Northeast Harbor, ME: "The first computer my son had was a Tandy 400." (all the library's computers were Tandys).
-[[User:Tapd260|Tapd260]]

== Flashback Computer? ==

Since it has now appeared twice, should we change the computer used in [[personal favorites]] and [[lady...ing]] to 'Flashback Computer', or something else appropriate? It was never stated that that computer is supposed to be the Tandy, it could be that it's supposed to be a computer even older than the Tandy. Any thoughts? I'm up for moving it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:56, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Mixed Message==

At the end of [[gimmicks]] when [[Strong Bad]] is in [[Strong Sad]]'s room after the Tandy explodes, he says he liked that computer. While in [[sisters]] he says he hates it. Is this just because he missed an oppertunity of hooking up with Ali and Ali's sister? [[User:Catman87]]

:Yes. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 00:48, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::In fact, they were probably a play on each other, and his growing hatred of the Tandy. How he says he liked it, then two emails later, says the exact opposite in the same tone. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:44, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Tandy is Not Dead! ==

The tandy even after it's been gotten rid of as shown in "vacation" it is not dead in ghosts it is shown that it seeks vengence on Strong Bad it is still poping up hear and there like in pumpkin stencals and 3-D menu #2 (easter egg). Like the cheat "The Tandys not Dead"!
:Doesn't its being a ghost mean that it has died? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Dirt ==

Has anyone noticed some brwon dirt in the lower left corner of the tandys screen? I noticed it when viewing a flash file.

== Dials or buttons ==

I pulled this from the [[Tandy 400#Quick Facts|Quick Facts]]...<blockquote>There is a possible mistake here, as both buttons actually appear to be dials. One would expect that, in real life, moving a dial one way would produce one effect (ie: greener screen), and moving it the other way would produce the opposite (ie: blacker screen). However, there are two dials.</blockquote>I'm ambivalent about this... certainly it's true to an extent, after it [[sisters|explodes and returns]] you can see they're dials, not buttons. On the other hand, I don't think it's a mistake as such, any more than, say, the geddup noise is a mistake... rather, something they did, realised, and then decided to stick with anyway. Also, having them act as two buttons is much simpler to make, and to make usable (the [[Compy 386]]'s single knob with two hotspots is a bit more confusing, to me at least). Either way, I don't think "Quick Facts" is the best place to put it... but there's nowhere that looks better on the page... Anyways, I'm too tired at the moment to think of something better, so I'll leave that there for you guys. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Radio shack ==

I recently was looking at an old bagphone I have and noticed that it said "manufactured for Radio Shack a division of the Tandy Company" on the label. Weird. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 19:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Ducks

Elvis — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:36:00 GMT

Elvis: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Lord Quackingstick.PNG|thumb|right|147px|Lord Quackingstick]]
Out of all the birds out there, [[Wikipedia:duck|'''ducks''']] have been mentioned the most in [[Free Country, USA]].

==Appearances==
*[[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] [[In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello_Deleted_Scenes#Original_Danger|Deleted Scene #1]]— [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], and [[Strong Sad]]'s airplane starts hitting birds in midair. Homestar Runner shouts, "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!"
*[[duck pond]]— Ron Kiwi asks Strong Bad what his thoughts are on feeding the ducks.
*[[Main Page 13]]— Rolling the cursor over "Email" causes [[Strong Bad]] to run out carrying a trophy, chased by the [[Atari Dragon]]. Strong Bad screams, as Homestar did, "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!"
*[[A Decemberween Pageant]]— [[Bubs]], responding to Strong Bad's idea to search down by the docks, says "Ooh. I thought you said ducks."
*[[morning routine]]— [[Strong Sad]] finds a duck [[Eggs|egg]] in [[The Couch|the couch]].
*Email [[lunch special]]— Strong Bad asks [[The Cheat]] if he is a duck. A recipe for Duck A L'Orange is also given.
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]— Marzipan has an abstract thought, namely "Is a penguin a bird or a duck?"
*Email [[flashback]]— Homestar wears a [[Duckie Shirt|shirt with a duck]] on it. Also worn on [[Main Page 20]].
*[[Duck Guardian]]— The whole game is based on trying to rescue ducks.
*[[Halloween Fairstival]]— After a failed attempt to hold his breath on a ten dollar bet, Strong Bad tells Homestar to try again because "ten is a lot of bucks", Homestar replies with "right, right, a lot of ducks!" Also the King of Town's [[Wikipedia:Turducken|Turducken]] has a duck in the center of it.
*[[Stinkomanual|Manual]] for [[Stinkoman 20X6]]— the word "plug-duck" is mentioned.
*[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|Stinkoman 20X6, level -0]]— Ladders of ducks appear, similar to the [[Duck Guardian]] ducks.
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]— Homestar Runner draws ducks on Marzipan's potion recipe.
*[[portrait]]— Strong Bad holds a mechanical duck stick, which he names [[Lord Quackingstick]].
*[[highschool]]— Lil' Strong Bad is playing a video game, and complains that "that freakin' duck swallowed both my pixels!"

[[Category:Inside Jokes]][[Category:Animals]]

Yella Paint

Elvis — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:43:23 GMT

Elvis — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:36:53 GMT

Elvis: Some Some paint used to make Strong Bad's self-portrait.

Some Some paint used to make Strong Bad's self-portrait.

Talk:Yella Paint

Elvis — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:32:09 GMT

Elvis: /* Change it. */

==Keep==
Keep, because why have a page called Linux Incompabilites and not this?- [[70.153.102.183]]

'''Delete''' Linux Incompabilites is a big part of Homestar Runer. Yella paint appeared in one toon. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:09, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree. It's not really worth keeping. This is going to be the next "[[Staple Sauce]]" if we're not careful. - [[User:The Chort|The Chort]] 20:12, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What about pages like Kertified Klown Kare or Bubs' Shotgun, they have only appeared once- [[70.153.102.183]]

You can take up those articles on their talk pages. This page has two sentences and had very little screen time. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:49, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

'''Keep.''' It's an item. It doesn't matter how many times it has appeared. A list of items in the H*R universe would not be complete without this. If we want to '''move''' things like this and the [[Jack Hamma]] to a page of things that only appear once, fine. But the content belongs somewhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. '''Keep'''. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:49, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

'''Keep it'''. Grumble Cakes were introduced in email 98 on Febuary 16, 2004. They did not apper again until email 115 on October 4, 2004. Now, there's a music video. This could be the same thing.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:24, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

If the wiki was around whan [[homsar]] came out, would we dissmiss [[Homsar]] as a "one time character"? I think not. Even the smallest things on the site that are a huge part of even one cartoon should have a page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 03:31, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC) (and I like [[Staple Sauce]])

:This conversation was 4ever ago, but I'm still gonna say keep. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:39, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Change it. ==
This page should become "Paint" or "cans of paint". There is another instance of paint in a toon, I just haven't found it yet. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 14:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Found It. It's the sbemail portrait. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 14:32, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Yella Paint

Elvis — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:26:36 GMT

Elvis: /* Change it. */

Elvis — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:01:10 GMT

Elvis:

== Unnecessary pluralization ==

I think that unnecessary pluralizations are frequent enough to be counted as a running gag. e.g., "Feed the Childrens". I can't think of any other specific intances, but I'm prooty sure it's real. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>[[User:Elvis|Four Squiggles]] 02:00, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Category talk:Word running gags

Elvis — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:00:44 GMT

Elvis: Unnecessary pluralization

Talk:Deliberately Poor English

Elvis — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:31:30 GMT

Elvis:

{{ttbd}}
I'm not entirely sure this page is necessary. Viklas's email definitely doesn't seem to belong here, as this isn't intentional on the part of TBC. The rest of this information seems sufficiently covered under [[Stinkoman 20X6]] and other Stinkoman-related pages. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Are there any more instances of Engrish on the site? When you create a page please produece at least three or four for it to merit itself. In you can't find any, I'll have no chioce but to put the page for deletion. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

:I also move for a speedy deletion for the reasons listed above. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll add some more instances. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 19:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

:I'm not sure if "Engrish" is the right term for this running gag. TBC seem to parody a very specific form of Engrish - mistranslations in video games, like "congraturation" or "thank you so much for to playing my game." {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC) (Spoony bards!)

I think Poor translation or Mis-translation is a more accurate name, and broadens the range of instances. Just a thought... [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 23:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:senior prom

Elvis — Thu, 04 May 2006 15:36:59 GMT

Elvis: Back to the Future?

== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
*It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
*Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0

Elvis — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:23:03 GMT

Elvis: /* The Cornbread hour */

*WPKG is a real radio station based in Neillsville, Wisconsin. The number is 92.7 and the genre is "Nostalgia." Cornbread hour indeed.

== Cornbread... ==

They've mentioned Cornbread in "A Decemberween Pageant" too. Does this qualify as an inside joke?

:Um... it might be, but i think its just random talk. {{User:Bubsty/sig}}
==unlimited supply==
one thing that you could put down as "remarks" is that strong bad says that marzipan has won an "unlimited supply" of one million punches in the face. since one million is a set number, it's not unlimited.

:Funny thing, someone added that the other day but it was removed. Their wording was:
<blockquote>Since Strong Bad quantifies the number of punches in the face Marzipan is to receive (one million), it would not be an unlimited supply.</blockquote>
:How do you like that wording?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:30, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Ron or are on?==

I always thought homestar said "Sweepstakes are on," not "Sweepstakes Ron." Anyone else agree? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:36, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I clearly hear "Sweepstakes Ron". This also makes sense in context, as Homestar is talking on the phone to someone he believes to be a radio host. It would make sense for Homestar to address this person and then question why Ron isn't responding.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Ok, whateva. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:31, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== The Cornbread hour ==

I know this isn't a fun fact, but I'll post it here anyway. In Saint Louis the radio station [http://www.wil92.com/ 92.3 WIL] there is a moring show called the [http://www.cornbreadshow.com/home.asp Cornbread Show]. I don't know, I just thought this was funny.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:17, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Think its a coinidence or not? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:04, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
It reminds me of the King biscuit flour hour. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 21:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon

Elvis — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:54:28 GMT

Elvis: Oh brother

==Where's The Trascript?==
Is there any specific reason that the Transcript and Easter Eggs haven't been transferred yet? If not, Imma do that before I finish up on [[Where's The Cheat?]] -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Yes, this was one of the first attempt at making a page before the format was set up. See the first twenty-some-odd Strong Bad Emails for the correct format. And do you know about the tilde signature thing? A "Me" signature really isn't a good idea. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:22, 5 Aug 2004 (MST)

::Sorry bout the "ME" thing. I was in a massive hurry. I had some bigwig at my back and I wanted to get offa the page. Now, what's wrong with using the tilde? If I'm not supposed to, that's cool, but I've just gotten in the habit of doing that. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:::Oh, no. What I meant was [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sign_your_posts_on_talk_pages this]. You can use four tildes to sign your name with the timestamp. Check it out. That would have been even faster. Heh heh. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:29, 5 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::: [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:03, 5 Aug 2004 (MST) Woah. Nifty. [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:03, 5 Aug 2004 (MST)

==Could It Be True?==
--[[User:Zeroic|Zeroic]] 12:52, 27 Sep 2004 (MST)Is there any truth on the easter eggs about after Homestar Intergates The Poopsmith, you can click on his eyes to get Strong Sad to throw eggs at him? I waited for about 2 mins and I couldn't do anything!

:Hah, no, whoever told you that was spinning lies. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==The Prisoner==
I Googled SB's prisoner number, 5408, and came up with this oddity: Watermelon Trials [http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/vegetables/2003watermelontrials/5408.html] --Guest_itsabob 15:54 Dec 15 2004 PST

== Diplomatic immunity ==
If Strong Bad's the ruler of Strongbadia shouldn't he have diplomatic immunity?
:Strongbadia seems to be a subset of Free Country, USA, not its own soverign territory; therefore, Strong Bad could be arrested there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:55, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Nobody said Strong Bad was smart; he probably doesn't even know what diplomatic immunity is!
-Private Martin of the Homestarmy

== New Comment ==

According to the tick marks inside the jail cell, Strong Bad and The Cheat have been in there for 7 days when Strong Mad busts them out.

Okay...
1) I think 99.9% of the people who have watched this toon knows/saw that.
2) It says so in the transcript.

--[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 18:34, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
==Closed STUFF==
===What ladytypes? (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
===Wall Markings (ACCEPTED)===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - {{User:Rainer/sig}}
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''-some Guest
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

===Poopsmith (DECLINED)===
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Grand Theft Candy ===
{{stufffact|The series of sirens and buzzes that Homestar Runner makes when he discovers Strong Bad and The Cheat (each time interrupting Strong Bad as he tries to say "Oh no, we've been found out") is a takeoff on a popular car alarm.}}
{{stuffverdict|23:18, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)|01:03, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|accepted|22|7|Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== One Last Job ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad trying to convince The Cheat to "come out of retirement" is remisiscent of Danny Ocean trying to convince Saul Bloom to come out of his retirement to help him with his latest robbery in [[IMDB:tt0240772|Ocean's Eleven]].}}
{{stuffverdict|22:49, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|17:45, 7 Jul 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|9|0|Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon}}

== I pod? ==

dose enyone else notice that their's an Ipod in Strong Badia--[[User:StrongGen|StrongGen]] 19:38, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)StrongGen

:Yes, we [[Strong Sad's iPod|have]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Biscuit Dough Hands Man==
I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with noting that this is the first appearance of [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]]. The first appearance of every other major and minor character is noted, and he has appeared more than once. Can someone please enlighten me, Some HSR themed username? --[[User:B|B]] 14:34, 25 Sep 2005 (EST)

:Please see the pages that represent the debuts of [[The Sad Kids]], [[Frank Bennedetto]], [[Pom Pom's girls]], and the [[Visor Robot]]. Thank you. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:39, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::thank you for the clarification. [[User:B|B]] 14:42, 25 Sep 2005 (EST)

== Horn In? ==

When strong bad said to the cheat are you horning my girl,did he mean are you having sex with my girl?

I don't know if he mean't that.

:The idiom "horn in" in this context means "To intervene officiously or indiscreetly in the affairs of others" [http://www.answers.com/horn%20in%20on].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:35, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ocean's Twelve ==

Umm... the real-world reference to Ocean's Twelve was a perfectly [[Wikipedia:Made-up words in The Simpsons#Cromulent|cromulent]] reference. What other crime movie with the same plot was about to come out the same year as this toon? Hmm?
:Almost every crime movie I've ever seen. No, I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there are many. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 17:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::By the way (and I know you're talking about Twelve and not Eleven), see the closed STUFF just four sections up from this one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== It was a pretty decent fact... ==

I thought that this fact was pretty half-decent, especially for a non-user. (for all of those who didn't see it, it's ther below)

*Strong Bad's hairnet is a possible reference to the film [[Wikipedia:O Brother, Where Art Thou?|O Brother, Where Art Thou?]] when Ulysses Everett McGill (played by George Clooney) wore a hairnet while he was on the run from the cops while sleeping in barn only to find he was almost caught be the cops.

Anyone agree? {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 21:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:Except for the hairnet, which is standard prison issue, it bears no resemblance to the toon. It's too much of a stretch to be a "possible reference." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== Shogun ==

The fact that the disk was labelled "Shogun" was mentioned twice, so I removed the second mention. --ravs (sambrent@gmail.com)
:No need to tell us. We already know that from recent changes. Very polite, though. You ought to sign up. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 02:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== dosent low life mean prostitute?! ==

Hey, when homestar runner calls strong bad and the cheat low lifes, im confused, because i heard low lifes are prostitutes, but can they also mean just bad criminals? me is confused.
:"Lowlife" actually means "A person of low social status or moral character". Thieves and criminals have low morals. So there you go. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Old Egg ==

When the King of Town says "big old, red old, nasty old, egg," it reminds me of "Walking home, Strong Bad came upon a big ol' egg" from [[flashback]]. -- [[User:Quite|Quite]]

== Oh brother ==

I wonder if The ol' SB wearing a hairnet is a reference to Oh Brother Where Art Thou. Y'know like George Clooney's character. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 01:54, 19 April 2006 (UTC)