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Eujensc — Sun, 15 May 2005 23:50:07 GMT

Eujensc: /* Toons and E-mails */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

=== [[for kids]] ===
===Okay, dumb children...===

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(Changed decline vote to '''Neutral''')

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.''' This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment''' In [[Hairstyle Runner]], one of the sample styles is called smartass. My virgin ears! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005
*<strike>'''Accept!'''</strike> Haha, only joking '''Decline.''' I never heard of the word 'ass' being any stronger a curse than 'crap' or 'screw y'all!' myself. Technically the fact is true, but not fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 19:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**These "clever" votes are getting out of hand when we have Accept and Decline on the same line. I know you're "only joking," but please make your votes one or the other, so there's no chance of misunderstanding. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
***True, but when the vote is this lopsided, I think it's safe to... '''Second! Accept! Rewrite! Deline!''' (seriously, decline).--[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:55, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nein! Nein!''' Although I wouldn't be surprised to hear [[Thnikkaman]] say, "Yeah, STFU, kid!" In that acronym, of course. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

*'''Um, hang on a sec...''' Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 2 2005
*'''That's funny,''' Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait... there's a connection?''' Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait, is there a decline'''. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me!''' I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**"This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
*'''DECLORNED!''' Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! '''Declined.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I sense an early verdict for this one. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it's not May 16.
***Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Worst... fun fact... ever. '''Declete.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
** Er... no offense, but I think that picture is only going to serve to make this cluttered page worse... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What in the...Declined!''' Was Aunt Gert even ''IN'' that email?! I don't think so. -Walking Armless
*'''Fugget it''' Who cares? I mean, really.-Alice
*'''Decline''' This isn't even worth sarcasm [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''BALEETED!!!''' Why bother? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:48 ET May 12 2005
*DECLINE AND CHECK YOUR FACTS ¬¬ She. wasn't. anywhere. near. the. vicinity. of. that. email. period. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:27, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 02:01, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

*'''Decline''' I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Third''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts ''outside the Flash frame'' are neither glitches nor goofs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned''' Goofs in the flash file don't count [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Comment.''' This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. '''Delete''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''BOOO''' You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!!''' normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]] (Prepare to see this a lot.)
**Um, you should really just vote normally. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, you should. In fact, I'm deleting this picture right now. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Um, like totally declined'''Wasn't he, like, just sticking his head into the scene? I think you're looking a little too hard for a goof.-Alice
**Exactly. Most of the supposed goofs people list are just nit picky details. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Once Again, Biscuit-Decline-Man slips through Our Fingers''' He was leaning, and like Alice said, he was stickin his head into the shot. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:06, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Buh-buh-buh-buh...Declined!''' --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:50 PM ET May 12 2005
*No. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.
*'''Decline.''' The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly [[wikipedia:jingle|catchy jingle]] that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Potential reference"! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:10, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Agh! "Could be"! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to ''Hitchhikers''. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declined''' One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in old movies, phone numbers always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This fun fact is OVERRR!!!''' Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deep-42'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''TWO'nd!'''As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED! - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
*'''2nd'd!''' How thick can you get? "This is a potential reference to HG2G" was an example of a pathstic fun fact!!-Alice
*'''STRONG Accept''' unless someone can come up with another example (outside of HHG and Senor Mortgage) of a gag phone number with a ridiculous number of 5's in it. I'm pretty sure I never saw such a thing before Senor Mortgage. So I would say that this is very unlikely to be a coincidence. - Dingell
**Well I STRONGLY suspect that the reason there are a STRONG number of fives in the name is because there's STRONG evidence to point to the STRONG fact that fictional phone numbers have three STRONG "5"s in the name, and it's a STRONG inclination to just stick a bunch of "5"s if you want to be STRONGLY funny. '''STRONG DECLINE, so says STRONG BAD''' [[User:Dasrik|STRONG Dasrik]] 01:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Comment''' Actually, I remember when I was about 4 years old, there was a phon number on Sesame Street that was fives. Plus, I think this is just a goof on the long and hard to rememebr phone numbers companies give you (There's an 8 somewhere in the middle of Senor's) -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''DENIAL''': I was a writer on ''"The Bozo Show"'' on WGN-TV in the mid-1990's, and we used a joke that started "The number is 555-5555, and remember, the third number's a 3." --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:11 AM ET May 13 2005
:*'''Comment''' 555-5555 is a normal seven-digit phone number. Senor Mortgage's phone number is clearly exaggerated in length, which is the main part of the joke. Yes, 555-5555 and similar numbers are used all the time in media, but that's not all that's being referenced here. - Dingell
:**Yes it is. Deal with it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
:***With that sort of reasoning on your side, how could one disagree? Of course, the length of the phone number isn't at all meant to be a joke... maybe Mike and Matt actually thought that phone numbers are 31 digits long. Or maybe one of them fell asleep at the keyboard with his finger on the "5" key. Those scenarios are about as likely as this reference NOT being true. - Dingell
:****Well you're losing anyway, so who cares. Your logic amounts to a "could be" and everyone knows by now how I feel about those. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
:*****And you're being a jerk Dasrik. Anyway he's at least right that the length is a joke. But I would say it's not a reference to the number above ecause it's a different length, if it were the same length, then maybe. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
:******Thanks, I agree. Let's end it on this. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:41, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Arthur De-cli-nt! Guh, no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The 2 numbers are not the same length. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

*Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Howabouts: "In [[your friends]], he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
*I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in ''Favorites'' were made up anyway. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:38, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:33, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''.dnoceS''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**"This is the best" implies favorite. Thats all I'm sayin'.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
***'''Comment.''' I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
* WASSUP! I '''DECLINE'''. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. [[your friends]], [[the basics]], and the fake emails from [[personal favorites]] have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE!''' This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Perhaps: In the email [[your friends]], Strong Bad claimed it was the best email he had ever recieved. Strangely enough, it wasn't listed as one of his favourite emails. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:35, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
***'''Third.''' --[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:39, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Rebuttal''' This explains a reference elsewhere. Simply put it in an "outside references" subsection and let it go yous guys. -da borg
**'''Personal Comment''' Un Chien Andalou gave me nightmares, don't watch it. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:41, 2 May 2005
*'''Standing too close to you in DECLINE''' Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE... ED! Yeah, decline-ed''' Thoguh it's a good movie, I don't think it's a reference to it. It may, however, be a reference to the other meaniong of spellbound, meaning havinbg been set under a spell. If you change it to that, it may be accepted. -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*Decline I shave too, but I'm not thinking of any alfred hitchcock movie when I do it. He' just shaving, that's all there is to it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACSEPd''' he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever [[User:Ganome|Ganome]]
*'''DECLINE'D!!!''' I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Accept''' I still think that it does ring true of the Simpsons, and that it qualifies</s> Ah for that youthful indulgence. I change my vote to '''DECLINE''' after realizing how blantently not true this is-[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:40, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Worst...Accept...EVER!!''' Yeah, I'm gonna hafta say that's true. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:49, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Try posting it here [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Interpretations:Experimental_Film] instead. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 5:37 May 2 2005
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second, third, whatever''' Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' Dude, it's just a helmet. -Walking Armless

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:current status]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:31, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).
*What?! This is just random speculation trying to connect random words randomly. Thus, this deserves to get a '''Random Decline.''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm the one who wrote this fact, and think it's more likely than Homestar confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad. Why not '''Rewrite''' it? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it doesn't make any sense? I don't think he's confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad and I don't think your explanation works either. It's just randomness. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*This deserves to be '''deleted''' at once. '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I rewrote myself. Now does it make sense? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Ummmm, what I think some of us are tryin' to say here is that we don't believe there's any connection between Homestar's utterance and Strong Sad. IMHO, no amount of rewriting is gonna change that. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second''' I'll have what he's having, with a side order of '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:47, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Jay, didn't you already vote? BTW, '''DECLINE.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nein''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:02, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''So Ein Mist!''' for those of you who don't speak German, it means something along the lines of "O crap" or "what a mess!" (aka '''Second''')[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*Decline. Though this may be true, it's anything but confirmed. I think it's more likely that it was due to him being influenced by [[Homsar]] the way strong bad was by [[Senor Cardgage]] -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Sun, 15 May 2005 19:39:26 GMT

Eujensc: /* In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(Changed decline vote to '''Neutral''')

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.''' This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment''' In [[Hairstyle Runner]], one of the sample styles is called smartass. My virgin ears! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005
*<strike>'''Accept!'''</strike> Haha, only joking '''Decline.''' I never heard of the word 'ass' being any stronger a curse than 'crap' or 'screw y'all!' myself. Technically the fact is true, but not fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 19:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**These "clever" votes are getting out of hand when we have Accept and Decline on the same line. I know you're "only joking," but please make your votes one or the other, so there's no chance of misunderstanding. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:27, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
***True, but when the vote is this lopsided, I think it's safe to... '''Second! Accept! Rewrite! Deline!''' (seriously, decline).--[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:55, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nein! Nein!''' Although I wouldn't be surprised to hear [[Thnikkaman]] say, "Yeah, STFU, kid!" In that acronym, of course. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

*'''Um, hang on a sec...''' Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 2 2005
*'''That's funny,''' Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait... there's a connection?''' Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait, is there a decline'''. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me!''' I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**"This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
*'''DECLORNED!''' Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! '''Declined.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I sense an early verdict for this one. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it's not May 16.
***Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Worst... fun fact... ever. '''Declete.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
** Er... no offense, but I think that picture is only going to serve to make this cluttered page worse... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What in the...Declined!''' Was Aunt Gert even ''IN'' that email?! I don't think so. -Walking Armless
*'''Fugget it''' Who cares? I mean, really.-Alice
*'''Decline''' This isn't even worth sarcasm [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''BALEETED!!!''' Why bother? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:48 ET May 12 2005
*DECLINE AND CHECK YOUR FACTS ¬¬ She. wasn't. anywhere. near. the. vicinity. of. that. email. period. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:27, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 02:01, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

*'''Decline''' I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Third''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts ''outside the Flash frame'' are neither glitches nor goofs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned''' Goofs in the flash file don't count [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Comment.''' This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. '''Delete''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''BOOO''' You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!!''' normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]] (Prepare to see this a lot.)
**Um, you should really just vote normally. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, you should. In fact, I'm deleting this picture right now. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Um, like totally declined'''Wasn't he, like, just sticking his head into the scene? I think you're looking a little too hard for a goof.-Alice
**Exactly. Most of the supposed goofs people list are just nit picky details. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Once Again, Biscuit-Decline-Man slips through Our Fingers''' He was leaning, and like Alice said, he was stickin his head into the shot. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:06, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Buh-buh-buh-buh...Declined!''' --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:50 PM ET May 12 2005
*No. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.
*'''Decline.''' The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly [[wikipedia:jingle|catchy jingle]] that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Potential reference"! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:10, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Agh! "Could be"! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to ''Hitchhikers''. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declined''' One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in old movies, phone numbers always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This fun fact is OVERRR!!!''' Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deep-42'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''TWO'nd!'''As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED! - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
*'''2nd'd!''' How thick can you get? "This is a potential reference to HG2G" was an example of a pathstic fun fact!!-Alice
*'''STRONG Accept''' unless someone can come up with another example (outside of HHG and Senor Mortgage) of a gag phone number with a ridiculous number of 5's in it. I'm pretty sure I never saw such a thing before Senor Mortgage. So I would say that this is very unlikely to be a coincidence. - Dingell
**Well I STRONGLY suspect that the reason there are a STRONG number of fives in the name is because there's STRONG evidence to point to the STRONG fact that fictional phone numbers have three STRONG "5"s in the name, and it's a STRONG inclination to just stick a bunch of "5"s if you want to be STRONGLY funny. '''STRONG DECLINE, so says STRONG BAD''' [[User:Dasrik|STRONG Dasrik]] 01:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Comment''' Actually, I remember when I was about 4 years old, there was a phon number on Sesame Street that was fives. Plus, I think this is just a goof on the long and hard to rememebr phone numbers companies give you (There's an 8 somewhere in the middle of Senor's) -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''DENIAL''': I was a writer on ''"The Bozo Show"'' on WGN-TV in the mid-1990's, and we used a joke that started "The number is 555-5555, and remember, the third number's a 3." --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:11 AM ET May 13 2005
:*'''Comment''' 555-5555 is a normal seven-digit phone number. Senor Mortgage's phone number is clearly exaggerated in length, which is the main part of the joke. Yes, 555-5555 and similar numbers are used all the time in media, but that's not all that's being referenced here. - Dingell
:**Yes it is. Deal with it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
:***With that sort of reasoning on your side, how could one disagree? Of course, the length of the phone number isn't at all meant to be a joke... maybe Mike and Matt actually thought that phone numbers are 31 digits long. Or maybe one of them fell asleep at the keyboard with his finger on the "5" key. Those scenarios are about as likely as this reference NOT being true. - Dingell
:****Well you're losing anyway, so who cares. Your logic amounts to a "could be" and everyone knows by now how I feel about those. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
:*****And you're being a jerk Dasrik. Anyway he's at least right that the length is a joke. But I would say it's not a reference to the number above ecause it's a different length, if it were the same length, then maybe. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
:******Thanks, I agree. Let's end it on this. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:41, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Arthur De-cli-nt! Guh, no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The 2 numbers are not the same length. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

*Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Howabouts: "In [[your friends]], he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
*I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in ''Favorites'' were made up anyway. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:38, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:33, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''.dnoceS''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**"This is the best" implies favorite. Thats all I'm sayin'.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
***'''Comment.''' I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
* WASSUP! I '''DECLINE'''. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. [[your friends]], [[the basics]], and the fake emails from [[personal favorites]] have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE!''' This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Perhaps: In the email [[your friends]], Strong Bad claimed it was the best email he had ever recieved. Strangely enough, it wasn't listed as one of his favourite emails. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:35, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
***'''Third.''' --[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:39, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Rebuttal''' This explains a reference elsewhere. Simply put it in an "outside references" subsection and let it go yous guys. -da borg
**'''Personal Comment''' Un Chien Andalou gave me nightmares, don't watch it. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:41, 2 May 2005
*'''Standing too close to you in DECLINE''' Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE... ED! Yeah, decline-ed''' Thoguh it's a good movie, I don't think it's a reference to it. It may, however, be a reference to the other meaniong of spellbound, meaning havinbg been set under a spell. If you change it to that, it may be accepted. -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*Decline I shave too, but I'm not thinking of any alfred hitchcock movie when I do it. He' just shaving, that's all there is to it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACSEPd''' he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever [[User:Ganome|Ganome]]
*'''DECLINE'D!!!''' I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Accept''' I still think that it does ring true of the Simpsons, and that it qualifies</s> Ah for that youthful indulgence. I change my vote to '''DECLINE''' after realizing how blantently not true this is-[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:40, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Try posting it here [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Interpretations:Experimental_Film] instead. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 5:37 May 2 2005
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second, third, whatever''' Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' Dude, it's just a helmet. -Walking Armless

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:current status]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:31, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).
*What?! This is just random speculation trying to connect random words randomly. Thus, this deserves to get a '''Random Decline.''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm the one who wrote this fact, and think it's more likely than Homestar confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad. Why not '''Rewrite''' it? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it doesn't make any sense? I don't think he's confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad and I don't think your explanation works either. It's just randomness. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*This deserves to be '''deleted''' at once. '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I rewrote myself. Now does it make sense? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Ummmm, what I think some of us are tryin' to say here is that we don't believe there's any connection between Homestar's utterance and Strong Sad. IMHO, no amount of rewriting is gonna change that. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second''' I'll have what he's having, with a side order of '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:47, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Jay, didn't you already vote? BTW, '''DECLINE.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nein''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:02, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''So Ein Mist!''' for those of you who don't speak German, it means something along the lines of "O crap" or "what a mess!" (aka '''Second''')[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*Decline. Though this may be true, it's anything but confirmed. I think it's more likely that it was due to him being influenced by [[Homsar]] the way strong bad was by [[Senor Cardgage]] -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Mon, 09 May 2005 19:52:17 GMT

Eujensc: /* In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005

===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005
*'''Accept!''' Haha, only joking '''Decline.''' I never heard of the word 'ass' being any stronger a curse than 'crap' or 'screw y'all!' myself. Technically the fact is true, but not fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 19:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and a that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

*'''Um, hang on a sec...''' Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 2 2005
*'''That's funny,''' Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait... there's a connection?''' Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait, is there a decline'''. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me!''' I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**"This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
*'''DECLORNED!''' Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! '''Declined.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I sense an early verdict for this one. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it's not May 16.
***Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Worst... fun fact... ever. '''Declete.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
** Er... no offense, but I think that picture is only going to serve to make this cluttered page worse... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What in the...Declined!''' Was Aunt Gert even ''IN'' that email?! I don't think so. -Walking Armless
*'''Fugget it''' Who cares? I mean, really.-Alice
*'''Decline''' This isn't even worth sarcasm [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

*'''Decline''' I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Third''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts ''outside the Flash frame'' are neither glitches nor goofs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned''' Goofs in the flash file don't count [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Comment.''' This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. '''Delete''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''BOOO''' You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!!''' normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]] (Prepare to see this a lot.)
**Um, you should really just vote normally. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, you should. In fact, I'm deleting this picture right now. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Um, like totally declined'''Wasn't he, like, just sticking his head into the scene? I think you're looking a little too hard for a goof.-Alice

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.
*'''Decline.''' The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly [[wikipedia:jingle|catchy jingle]] that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Potential reference"! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Agh! "Could be"! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to ''Hitchhikers''. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declined''' One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in old movies, phone numbers always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This fun fact is OVERRR!!!''' Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deep-42'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''TWO'nd!'''As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED! - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
*'''2nd'd!''' How thick can you get? "This is a potential reference to HG2G" was an example of a pathstic fun fact!!-Alice

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

*Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Howabouts: "In [[your friends]], he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
*I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in ''Favorites'' were made up anyway. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:38, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:33, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''.dnoceS''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**"This is the best" implies favorite. Thats all I'm sayin'.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
***'''Comment.''' I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
* WASSUP! I '''DECLINE'''. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. [[your friends]], [[the basics]], and the fake emails from [[personal favorites]] have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE!''' This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:41, 2 May 2005
*'''Standing too close to you in DECLINE''' Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACSEPd''' he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever [[User:Ganome|Ganome]]
*'''DECLINE'D!!!''' I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Try posting it here [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Interpretations:Experimental_Film] instead. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 5:37 May 2 2005
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second, third, whatever''' Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

*'''Comment.''' This one has been added and deleted about X0 times. Rather than waste valuable mission time, I STUFFed it. Allez cuisine! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Still Decline''' <s>What the crap?! This website is about '''Homestar''', not McDonalds. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)</s> My bad...but it's still ''waaaaaaay'' too obvious. ''{Starts singing Everyobody Knows It}''... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Ah '''still decline!''' You're getting more popular as the days go on! Yeah, '''decline'''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Remember the context. Coach B complains about his "clown feet" then grumbles something about "Ronald McDonald." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' I'm always amazed by what people ''don't'' know, but ... something tells me that ol' Ron is pretty well known the world over! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, and I don't like to reject outside references on the basis of being too obvious. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm gonna second that.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Well I do. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 27 Apr
*'''DUH! cline''' Me too. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Do you want '''decline''' with that? Sorry, this falls under the category of "so obvious (insert name here) could see it." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Is this one of those '''declined''' fun facts? Like the ones that Moms and off-shore casinos post?.-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Hey! A reference is a reference. Obvious or not! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But it's ''too'' obvious! I quote "but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them" from the things that make good fun facts. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Hey! Did you know tha Pikachu is a Pokemon?!? C'mon folks, this fact isn't like the Four Armed Grimace reference. People already know who Ronald is. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***You're using the example from the top of the STUFF page, but it's a bad example (and really should be changed). Many people, myself included, have no real idea what a Pokemon is, even less who Pikachu is.
***I think enough people do know that it doesn't have to be listed. No matter how well known something is there will ALWAYS be someone who doesn't know about it. That doesn't mean we need to explain each and every reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' The philosophy that nothing is too obvious does not work. If Jesus appeared in a cartoon it would be ridiculous to make a fact about him. Even though (as far as I know) Ronald McDonald isn't religiously worshipped by millions over the world, he ''is'' extremely and widely well known. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''', I mean, do you want me to add "Homestar Runner is a popular web cartoon" or "The language primary used in this email is 'English', named after an island dwelling European nation" as fun facts to every cartoon? There is a fun fact describing brunswick stew in new boots, does that mean we need one describing biscuit dough in the jail cartoon?
***I mean, do you want me to ask you to sign your vote? Or do you want me to say SIGN YOUR VOTE.? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:11, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****I think there are enough declines for this fact that he doesn't have to. Still doesn't count though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Quote:'''(but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)are you telling me that not everybody will already recognize this? --[[user:Lappy 486]] today at now
**This is still a horrible example. Who the heck is Pikachu? What the heck is a Pokémon? (I guess if they were [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|linked]], I could go over to Wikipedia and find out, but apparently the reference is too obvious for that. Believe it or not, not everybody knows everything about pop culture, and valid real-world references deserve links.)
'''Decline'd''' Ok on these facts I try to be nice (no matter how little I comment on these facts), but this is just sad. You might as well put "'Pickle' is a word"! Seriously man, either get a point to this or get rid of it. ~[[user:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment and Decline''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. Which brings up my point. All of the references for the metal jaw fact were declined. I see no reason that this should be any different. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

*'''Accept.''' Uh... why was this stuffed? Unless people think it's too obvious? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' I suppose, but does every joke need to be explained? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*When was the last time I '''accepted''' something? I've seen more obvious Real-world refs. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It is too obvious, but STUFFing it was unnecessary. '''Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:28, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Well, good to see people agree with me, but I just thought that since that Hoofton-Mifflin joke was very obvious, but it was still Fun Fact'd, so I just thought this shoudl be to. I guess I'll be adding that now. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:59 Apr 27 2005 (EMT)
*'''Decline.''' The only difference between "Nobel Peace Prize" and "Nobel Peacey Prize" is the letter "y". Way too obvious. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 00:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh come on, Gafaddict, you gotta do better than that. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Whee. You typed my username correctly. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 05:42, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Real-world references should be linked, no matter how obscure or obvious. (The spelling, however, needs to be fixed. Strong Bad says "Noble," not "Nobel," and "Peacy" is spelled differently in the transcript.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:17, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

*'''Decline.''' It's not very interesting or fun. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*....uh, who cares? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Didn't notice. Didn't care. Didn't accept. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just too stupid. -Walking Armless

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Thy Dungeonman]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.
*'''Decline''' It's too general. Similarity =/= reference. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And [[action figure]] is Strong Bad email #42 that could be a referance to ''the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' '''Decline!''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I betcha if we try hard enough we can turn this into a TMBG reference. They know TBC y'know. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:27, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. --[[User:15.235.153.95|15.235.153.95]] 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I just read the [http://www.wtfiml33t.com/viewarticle.php?artid=59&page=1 article] mentioned above. No ''intentional'' homage mentioned! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).
*What?! This is just random speculation trying to connect random words randomly. Thus, this deserves to get a '''Random Decline.''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm the one who wrote this fact, and think it's more likely than Homestar confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad. Why not '''Rewrite''' it? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it doesn't make any sense? I don't think he's confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad and I don't think your explanation works either. It's just randomness. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*This deserves to be '''deleted''' at once. '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I rewrote myself. Now does it make sense? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Ummmm, what I think some of us are tryin' to say here is that we don't believe there's any connection between Homestar's utterance and Strong Sad. IMHO, no amount of rewriting is gonna change that. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second''' I'll have what he's having, with a side order of '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:47, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Jay, didn't you already vote? BTW, '''DECLINE.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Sun, 01 May 2005 13:13:47 GMT

Eujensc: /* Send In The Clown */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

*'''Comment.''' This one has been added and deleted about X0 times. Rather than waste valuable mission time, I STUFFed it. Allez cuisine! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Still Decline''' <s>What the crap?! This website is about '''Homestar''', not McDonalds. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)</s> My bad...but it's still ''waaaaaaay'' too obvious. ''{Starts singing Everyobody Knows It}''... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Ah '''still decline!''' You're getting more popular as the days go on! Yeah, '''decline'''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Remember the context. Coach B complains about his "clown feet" then grumbles something about "Ronald McDonald." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' I'm always amazed by what people ''don't'' know, but ... something tells me that ol' Ron is pretty well known the world over! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, and I don't like to reject outside references on the basis of being too obvious. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm gonna second that.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Well I do. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 27 Apr
*'''DUH! cline''' Me too. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Do you want '''decline''' with that? Sorry, this falls under the category of "so obvious (insert name here) could see it." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Is this one of those '''declined''' fun facts? Like the ones that Moms and off-shore casinos post?.-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Hey! A reference is a reference. Obvious or not! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But it's ''too'' obvious! I quote "but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them" from the things that make good fun facts. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Hey! Did you know tha Pikachu is a Pokemon?!? C'mon folks, this fact isn't like the Four Armed Grimace reference. People already know who Ronald is. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' The philosophy that nothing is too obvious does not work. If Jesus appeared in a cartoon it would be ridiculous to make a fact about him. Even though (as far as I know) Ronald McDonald isn't religiously worshipped by millions over the world, he ''is'' extremely and widely well known. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' ----

*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this? It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. '''NOTE:''' please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.''' I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It is true that anyone can figure out, but TBC don't usually curse. I think this is the closest we're going to get. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:10, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nope....''' I don't think this needs to be a fun fact at all... i think it was just a joke for the email, not a fact or anything.
*'''DECLINE'd!!!''' Not because he didn't...he obviously did, but then, that's why. It's really obvious and doesn't need to be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:27, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' Even though I agree that SB was about to drop an F-bomb, I think readers should be allowed to draw their own conclusions. It's implied by the transcript. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 20:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 11:35 30 Apr 2005

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Third.''' It's just part of the song. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''So cool a decline, I thought I would THIRD it''' even! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:29, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Sheds a tear''' My own little abbreviation is growing up. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''42'd''' -- Yeah, I always suspected it refered to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolon_Colluphid Oolon Colophid], [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews']] counterpart from HHTG, so we must therefor all be wrong simultaneously :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 22:38, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''COMMENT'''Um...42'd? What's that supposed to mean? I know we're on the subject og h2g2, but still. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment''' 42'd is probably a combination refrence to forty "second'd" and "two'd." Always good to see a fan of H2G2.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:16, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

*DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! [[User:Fizz123|Anonymous Contributor]]
*'''Completely Decline.''' No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment.''' Why wasn't this just deleted? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:13 19 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' Never caught that. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch. Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute. Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Calm yourself, Dasrik. No need for such a rant. Anyway, I say '''Accept.''' And, dasrik, it's not blatingly obvious OR a surpreme stretch. It's enough so that someone might not know it, yet not completely out-of range...exaclty the kind of thing a Fun Fact needs.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:35, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I was perfectly calm. Read it again. There are lots of people named Mike and Matt, enough so that this kind of thing could be disputed til the cows come home, or until TBC set the record straight. Exactly the kind of thing that makes a Fun Fact NOT fun. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:49, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But how many of them are directly involved in the creation of Homestar Runner cartoons? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:08, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Best Decline I ever spent''' I think it is just too obvious and isn't exactly a fun fact. --[[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Delcine''' While, unlike Dasrik, I am CONFIDENT that the reference was to Mike and Matt Chapman (they made the cartoon!), this is a little too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:08, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' And a comment on what Jay said: If ''I'' had a regular cartoon, there's no way I would ''accidentally'' put my own name in it. So the reference is totally intentional... and obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I '''second''' itsdotcom and Jay. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' It's both too glaringly obvious and too utterly unverifiable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Perhaps if a reason as to why they were listed as such was given, this would make a better Fun Fact, yeah? However, here, this is not really an option as, there seems to be no apparent reason why they did that. It would work if maybe, for example, Mike listed his name as Mike-Hai. In the meantime, someone should try and see if maybe that's a reference and then list THAT as a fun fact.---[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
*'''Accept''' I didn't realize it until I saw this debate ---[[User:Death Regis|Death Regis]] 22:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''A Different Approach.''' What if, instead of a fun fact, we just linked their names up in the list of credits? Like this: "Director [[Mike Chapman|Mike Rock]] / Designer [[Matt Chapman|MattMatt]]".

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Here Comes li'l Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I don't see any resemblance. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second?''' Li'l Brudder skydiving ''sort of'' looks like the animation of Klasky-Csupo, but that's just it. Never reminded me of anything the first time I watched it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''--[[user: Lappy 486]] 28 Apr 9:06
*'''Klasky-Declined.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:13, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in [[crying]]? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline.''' -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Decline''' and, by the way, if this WAS accurate, there would be nothing "ironic" about the "happy as a pup" line, unless you use the Alanis definition of irony (ie. "any funny coincidence.") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:50, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's true...changed it to "Incidentally."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:02, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' I think this could be a reference. It is a good fact!! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Leaning towards decline.''' It may have been a SLIGHT reference, but mainly just because it's a weird sounding, yet somewhat well-known place. Hey, Istanbul was a big part of my Geography test.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:flashback]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 8-4. The fact is re-posted on [[rampage]], and the discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:53, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the Humpty Hump reference has been '''Accepted''', while all the others have been '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:30, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:29, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:11, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:25, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also '''decline.''' -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE-ED!''' The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Worst Place''' I decline it because it is so freaking obvious that if you didn't understand it the first time you must be an idiot. [[User: Lappy 486]]

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

*'''Decline.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's also mentioned in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Hmmm, could it be classified as a running gag? --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Possibly Decline''' grumble grumble [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''List as running gag''' I second Greg Hosting's notion. Instead of having this Fun Fact, "Number one jam" should be listed as a running gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's referenced in this, [[time capsule]], [[Everybody to the Limit]], and [[Ballad of The Sneak]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconding the second of the second.''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 28 Apr 9:04
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 20:28, 30 Apr 2005 (CDT)

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.
*'''Not even'''. The first time, as far as I know, was in [[labor day]]. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:23, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Coach Z just kinda barely chuckles in labor day. Are there any other examples of him, well ... actually laughing ... hard? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Does it matter? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Well, I remember thinking "Gosh, I dunno if I've ever heard Coach Z laugh before." But that's just me ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04:20, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Welll....''' It says "heard" him laugh, and we don't exactly HEAR the laugh in Labor Dabor... --[[user: lappy 486]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:Homestarloween Party]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:41, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:date]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:the show]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to '''Decline''' this fact outright. Discussion moved to [[Talk:brianrietta]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be '''Moved''' from Goofs to Remarks on [[long pants]]. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
====Silent J====
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:techno]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only does Strong Bad have a penchant for lying, but this isn't even the first time after the KoT DVD that we've seen or heard about the KoT's castle. Check 3 Times Halloween Funjob or 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True (the latter was unreleased until recently but was clearly started long before this email), as well as a few other 'toons. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:07, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I Second Jay --[[user: lappy 486]] Apr 25

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".

'''VERDICT''' A revised version of this fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:That A Ghost]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:That A Ghost]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:48, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

*'''Definite Rewrite.''' Try again. It IS a direct reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:52, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Should not be on the STUFF page.''' Another version of this fact already went through the STUFF process and can be seen under the "Explanations" heading in [[best thing]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:02, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''CONCUR'D''' Once and only once applies to STUFF as well. Sorry. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:54, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second and moved.''' If you're gonna STUFF it, for crying out loud, check and make sure there's not a subsection for it on the page already before you put it at the top of the page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:57, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment and Decline''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. Which brings up my point. All of the references for the metal jaw fact were declined. I see no reason that this should be any different. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:33, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:38, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:45, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

'''Vredict:''' This fact was voted to be '''Rewritten and Moved'''. The revised fact now appears on [[best thing]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single '''Decline''' vote. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

'''VERDICT:''' After exactly two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously declined and moved to [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' I don't think this is true, really. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to [[Talk:other days]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know. --[[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline, decline, this fun fact, this fun fact. Declining so smoooooooth, how else would I react?''' Look at the Teen Girl Squad. They die almost every issue, but they come back for more the next episode. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Decline, the word "frickin'" used before "wings" means nothing to me. Are there even Frickers' in Antlanta?

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.
*'''Decline.''' The names look the same. The characters do not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this).''' Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it. Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Big Fat Decline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*"insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about" is not a valid source for TBC to reference. '''Hup Hup, Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I remember reading TBC don't watch other flash cartoons. I'll put a link to the interview here as soon as I find it. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**[http://www.retrocrush.com/homestar/index2.html They DO watch other Flash cartoons,] but "Fatty Big Eye"?! More like "Fatty Big '''Decline'''"!! --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:27, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just the word Fatty, I don't think so.

====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

'''Verdict:''' After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly '''Accepted''' by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''-- [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
*Using a rusty stake knife does not make him a blade man, man. '''Declined man, man.''' [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That is about as obvious as saying "if there is a building with 5 floors and you go to the top floor, you are on the 5th floor." [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Does this really need to be noted at all? I mean, it *is* right there on the package! I haven't changed my vote yet, but ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''What? Undelete it! Undelete it!''' Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oy. Come on, people...not every Fun Fact needs to be here. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to be the one to do this when everyone else is accepting, but...SO? I mean, what's your point? '''Decline.''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:48, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Accept but move''' to the [[Cheat Commandos Commercial#The Cheat Commandos (and their package captions)|package captions]] list at the bottom of that page. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I thought that too, it was really insane. Thumbs Up! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Why was this STUFF'd? It's demonstrably true, and it's something most people wouldn't notice just by watching the 'toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''2nd''' place. Ding! --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Answer''' Unless I'm missing something, it wasn't actually deleted from the 'toon in question - apparently, VC added it directly here. Which is technically how STUFF is SUPPOSED to work, but nobody uses it that way. ;) Anyway, this one is true enough that it could have been directly added and no one would have batted an eye, so '''Accept'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Mistah Hippo says Accept!''' By the way, I use STUFF that way. o.o --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:28, 23 Apr 2005

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

*'''Accept.''' Uh... why was this stuffed? Unless people think it's too obvious? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' I suppose, but does every joke need to be explained? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*When was the last time I '''accepted''' something? I've seen more obvious Real-world refs. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It is too obvious, but STUFFing it was unnecessary. '''Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:28, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Well, good to see people agree with me, but I just thought that since that Hoofton-Mifflin joke was very obvious, but it was still Fun Fact'd, so I just thought this shoudl be to. I guess I'll be adding that now. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:59 Apr 27 2005 (EMT)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

*'''Decline.''' It's not very interesting or fun. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*....uh, who cares? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Didn't notice. Didn't care. Didn't accept. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.
*'''Decline''' Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*(drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Videlectrix Ajax===

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.
*'''Decline''' It's too general. Similarity =/= reference. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And [[action figure]] is Strong Bad email #42 that could be a referance to ''the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' '''Decline!''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I betcha if we try hard enough we can turn this into a TMBG reference. They know TBC y'know. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:35:17 GMT

Eujensc: /* Strong Bad wants a cartoon */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*'''Decline.''' Unimportant, uninteresting, unacceptable. I don't see any reason to make note of this at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:47, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*'''Decline.''' Not very fun or interesting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:12, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And did you know that "Homsar" is the second e-mail that Strong Bad appears in? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines above. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].
*'''Decline''' A slight stretch. I don't think Strong Bad said the exact same thing, and he may have said "all a y'alls" In another toon or sbemail. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I live in Houston, and I hear "all y'all" about 749 times a day. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]
**True, it's a common saying. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

*'''Accept'''. Nothing wrong with it that I can tell of; why was this STUFF'd? Oh well... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is just like the Flash MX fact below. Who cares what the file is called?[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While file naming is notable in instances where there is an intended gag (as with E-mail #100 and the fake 100th e-mail page), this one doesn't even bear noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:54, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

*'''Decline.''' They could be talking about something else. Maybe a '''Revise''' could also be in order; lest we forget the People's Choice Awards? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:11, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline Second'd.''' It's probably more a reference to People's Choice than Kids' Choice since the former has been around longer. In any case, this joke is obvious enough that it doesn't need explanation. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:14, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a People's Choice reference...
**'''Second''' Also Critic's choice awards--[[User:141.151.170.130|141.151.170.130]] 16:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

*This seems like sort of a stretch to me. Sure it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. There's nothing to imply that this is the case; Strong Bad could be referring to anyone. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Nowhere in the context of the email is anything that may narrowly resemble Scooby-Doo. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:56, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Maybe if he said "those weird little kids and that dog" or more obviously, "those meddling kids", it would more "quite possible". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:17, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Responding to the previous two''' He says in the same sentence that he's solving a Celebrity ''Murder Mystery'' which is what the Scooby gang did all the time. I don't much care for that series myself, but it's probably true. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Accept/Rephrase''' There were many other cartoons like that too, it may not be that particular one, but it's most likely a reference to that one since it's the most well known. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline.''' I don't think Scooby actually ever dealt with a murder, let alone a celebrity murder. But even if he did there isn't anything in the e-mail to suggest a connection to Scooby. Strong Bad doesn't even mention a cartoon in the sub scene. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:58, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:51, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' You’re joking right? ‘Those weird little kids’ could be a reference to a lot of things; ''Village of the Damned'', ''The Ring'', ''The Shinning'' etc. Besides Scooby and the gang are teenagers not little kids. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

=== [[old comics]] ===

====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.
*'''Accept''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 15:49, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' or even better '''Move'''. Excellent observation, but I think it would serve better on Strong Bad's and Homestar Runner's character biographies, stating that they must both have been born prior to 1947 according to this email. --[[User:62.252.224.13|62.252.224.13]] 16:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I put up this fact, and I think it's useful and "fun" as an anecdote, but it probably shouldn't be taken as a hard fact within the Homestar universe. Just to note a few contradictions that would arise if Strong Bad were in fact this old: (1) We probably wouldn't be able to have a VHS tape of Little Strong Sad performing stand-up comedy at school, (2) If the King of Town was already King in 1947, then The Cheat must have "mashed play on an extremely expensive jambox" before 1947, because the king was still a prince when said jambox-mashing occurred in sbemail 100, (3) A fiftysomething man goes trick-or-treating, and his mom helped him with his costume (Homestarloween Party)? Seems a bit strange. But anyway, I think it's worth pointing out the age factor.
*'''Comment''' I'm not too sure, I mean, the email is really just looking at it as though the character of Strong Bad was used back then(since, as just a character, the age wouldn't matter. The idea for Strong Bad's character could've been around then, but then later used in modern day times, like, for example, Popeye or Mickey Mouse, for whom age isn't an important factor.), but it's presented through Strong Bad's point of view, thus implying that he would have aged since then. Sure, one could note that "Strong Bad has been around for 58 years", but saying that Strong Bad himself is over 58 years old doesn't work for me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I can't see any proof that the Castlefunnies actually "happed". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE.''' Some of you are reading way WAY too much into this. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:56, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Wow! Maybe old timey Homestar IS regular old Homestar...nah. Its a joke used for one e-mail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Very interesting, but it should be reworded. This isn't Strong Bad's age, it's just him showing that he knows that he's an unaging cartoon character. It's a forth wall break. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 10:48, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept and rephrase''' It is interesting, but maybe it should be rephrased into the passive, saying "If it is true, Strong Bad would be 57 years old." That, or we've caught Strong Bad making things up, and there never was a Castle Funnies.[[User:Aaronite|Aaronite]] 6:32, 17 Mar 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is radiculous. Definitely not fun in any way... And probably not accurate either. It's just a joke. A one-time joke. Get over it. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:00, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====

The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

*'''Decline.''' Need we bring up the ketchup example? Too general. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:05, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!''' Hmmm, is ''anyone'' getting the picture that TBC reuse things all the time? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:42, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' Holy crap! This cartoon is the 192nd time Strong Bad's head appears. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

*'''Revise and Accept.''' The second half is unnecessary - just say it's the same guitar that appears in Puppet Time. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:50, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Heh, just realized that if this fact is accepted, it'll need a little more in it:
The guitar Space Gary tosses is the same guitar shown in Puppet Time.
::--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:21, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Facts that are about re-used items are usually rejected outright. Puppet time or live action items shouldn't be excempted from this. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I disagree about live-action items. Given that there aren't that many live-action shorts, I think it's quite notable... in this particular instance. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
***What, they're going to go out and get a new guitar everytime they need one? I stand by my vote, its no different than the other times they re-use stuff. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Again, I respectfully disagree. It's different when you're dealing with small things like a can, or a spoon, or a bottle of ketchup - I agree that when it's reused more than once, it shouldn't be included. A guitar, on the other hand, is not a small thing, and in the context of this toon, it's a very noticeable item. And given that this is (possibly) the first time that a live-action shot was included in a SBE-mail, I think it's notable. I do agree that not every re-used prop deserves its own fun fact, but I do think that this one DOES deserve mentioning. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*****C'mon, the guitar also shows up in the 100th e-mail along with Limozeen. Its not important enough to point out everytime it shows up. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******Geez, lighten up... for starters, that's in an easter egg, not the main cartoon. And as I said before, live-action bits in an animated series are special cases. But this bickering is meaningless - unless someone else votes, it's at a deadlock. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*******'''Decline.''' Since you said it was a deadlock... I think it's a silly fun fact. I'm sure the Brothers Chaps don't have new guitars lying around for every time they want to put one in a toon. Of course it's always the same guitar. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' Quite frankly, I find the "TBC re-use items all the time!" argument to be weak. This is a place where people look for connections between toons, and while not EVERY re-used item deserves a mention (the Wiki would be clogged with entries about ketchup bottles, old cans, and wooden spoons), there must be certain times when the reappearance of re-used items is notable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

*'''"SEVERE DECLINE!"''' (Changed from "Weak Accept...") --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' While this is an interesting fact, it really doesn't have a place here, being that none of those shows have anything to do with HSR and the only connection is being cancelled after one show. Interesting, but not relevant enough. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''--[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:47, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' It isn't relevant. Plus, the addition of the show "The Will," which was cancelled earlier this year by CBS after only airing one episode, makes six. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:13, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG ACCEPT!!''' I think it's fun and interesting. The show that you said was cancelled after the first commercial break must be reference to the strong bad e-mail "'''montage'''". At the end when the credits are rolling it says that strong bad hosted a show on Animal Planet that cancelled after the first commercial break. The strong bad show also might be a reference to a show on Animal Planet that was hosted by Collin Mochrie that cancelled quickly. --[[User:s t i n k o m a n K|s t i n k o m a n K]]
** Fun? Interesting? Perhaps. How about RELEVANT? Sorry, fails that test. '''DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:22, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline''' There was also a show called "Aliens in the family" that got cancelled after one episode. There are just too many shows to list for this to be a viable fact. And a '''second''' on Jay Jay's vote. It isn't relevent anyway. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Actually, Donny, Aliens In The Family lasted only two episodes before it was cancelled. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:45, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
** The ABC affiliate where I live only showed the first episode. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].
* '''Decline''' Could also just be referring to "Space" (i.e. Cartoon) Gary vs "Real" (i.e. Real) Gary. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:49, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
**Second
**Third - JZ
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:56, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''STRONG DECLINE!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".
* '''Decline''' Man, a lot of severe stretches this week. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:36, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second'''; too big a stretch to me. Then again, I've not played ''Parappa'', but this doesn't go very far as to convincing me. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:46, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' I play the game on a regular basis, and the correlation seems strong enough. Might want to change the specific PTR2 reference to a series reference, since there are three games in that series. --[[User:blackbelt|blackbelt]] 1:39, 14 Mar 2005 (EST)
*Could be, yes. Is it? Most likely not. '''DECLINE.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:10, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''NOTE: the following has not been put on the actual page, I wanna see if you agree.'''

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.
*'''Decline.''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could be about TMBG, or a hundred other alt. rock bands where the lead singer wears glasses. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 07:31, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' And it's '''Flansburgh''' not "Flansborgh". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:13, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Neutral''' I thought the same thing for a second (it makes sense) but its too vague a joke to put a specific face on it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' There are a lot of bands like that, such as Linkin Park.
*'''Decline.''' The lead singer may wear glasses, but is the bassist a girl? --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:09, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.
*'''Comment''' I don't see why making it in Flash MX would make it have MX at the end or why TBC would be compelled to have it say MX just for the fact that it was MADE in MX. And that's my ¢2. --[[User:67.177.52.133]] 17:16, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Ummm.... I HAVE Flash MX, and it doesn't do that, nor should that be gloated upon so furthermore, '''Decline'''. -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' Even if it were true it doesn't matter enough to have it pointed out. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

*'''Decline.''' This rambles and makes no sense. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept''' Rambles? Perhaps. But I understand what it's saying - the cartoon looks like it's from the 80s, but Larry's comment at the end makes it seem more modern. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:19, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Second t3h second'''--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I thought that was the joke. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:01, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 19:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I like this rewrite. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:28, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Alternate Rewrite''' Just to make it a bit shorter: "Although Limozeen in Space seems like an 80's cartoon, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997."
*'''Decline''' While in many ways it seems like an early 80s cartoon, the alternative band reference also places it in the 90s, at least. Strong Bad seems to have an affinity for woefully outdated things (Rhino Feeder is his idea of a modern video game...)
** '''Second''' Changed my vote. I keep thinking that this fact should work but I dunno. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

*'''Accept''' I didn't know that. Good fact, I think.--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:21, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' What? Do you mean that the claw is SIMILAR? Because the Kick the Cheat Demo isn't in an "animation" style, it's in the regular style. The claw is definitely not the same one. (And even if it were, TBC reuse flash items all the time) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''"STRONG ACCEPT!"''' Good eye, good eye! --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It does look the same but I don't think its worth noting. Like Evin said, TBC re-use stuff all the time. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====

With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

*'''Revise''' Condense this somehow. Like 'With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble any number of cliche cartoon villains like Trap Jaw (from He-Man), Dr. Claw (from Inspector Gadget)' etc.. etc. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:32, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Get rid of the word "designed" in the rewrite, and it's good to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:12, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== See you in syndication ====

Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

*'''Decline''' It's pretty standard industry practice to show a cancelled show in syndication, even the wildly unsuccessful ones, since it makes the studio money. The recent phenomena of releasing everything in DVD format is just an extension of this. At any rate, this is way too obvious for a 'fun' fact, and we don't really need a thousand edits of this once everyone has added their own favorite, unjustly canceled show. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 18:44, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:05, 10 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It actually happened the opposite way with ''Clerks'': It was realeased on DVD then syndication. The joke is fairly obvious anyway and doesn't need a fun fact to explain it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).
*'''Decline''' The Beatles are not an alternative band, they were not responsible for destroying metal, and the bassist is not actually a girl, so I don't see why this would be a reference to the Beatles rather than a stereotypical alternative band. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 15:56, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' This one should have simply been deleted, for the reasons stated above. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmmm... I can't figure out if this is a serious comment, or just a joke about how many other Beatles references are on the page for this one. At any rate, definitely not relevant. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 08:50, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).
*'''Decline''' I really don't see why. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:59, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' They are similar events, but there's no connection between them. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:05, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Move''' It's a re-used joke, sure... but a clear reference? Seems a bit of a stretch. Maybe it would be better to toss up a new page about the instances of this and linking to it on the [[Inside Jokes]] page (where it seems like it would most belong). --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Decline''' It's simply a re-used joke or a running gag, not a clear reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:21, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Background Goof ====

When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===

==== Marshie's Initial ====

His first initial is 'M'.
*'''Decline'''
**'''Second.''' But sign your vote →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:33, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's great kid. You want a cookie everytime you point out the obvious?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 16:00, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third, fourth...'''I think you get the drift. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:58, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Shouldn't it just be "His initial is 'M'"? We don't know that he's got any others. Also, fun fact already noted in the [[Cheat Commandos...O's]] Fun Facts. So '''Decline'''. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]]
*'''Decline''' As it is, this item is mind-numbingly obvious - but even if you're referring to the easter egg in the Cheat Commandos...O's toon, it's also already noted on that page as well. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[colonization]] ===

==== Until next week... ====

This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[stunt double]] ===

==== Big wusses and lesser wimps ====

If it is true, that "Only big wusses and lesser wimps use stunt doubles.", then Strong bad is a big wuss and a lesser wimp, because it is obvious that Strong Sad is the stunt double. This is quite contrary to most of his comments across the site. Such as, on the "First time here?" page, he says, and I quote, "Check me out, no, seriously check me out."

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined after two weeks of voting. Moved to [[Talk:stunt double]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:35, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===

==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====

The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===

==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====

"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====

At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===

In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[Everybody Knows It]] ===

Like Strong Bad's "mask", Homestar's "shoes" are really his feet. So technically, he doesn't wear shoes.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Everybody Knows It]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[time capsule]]===

The gross old wig is probably the wig Homestar wore as part of his Kurt Cobain costume in Homestarloween Party.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:time capsule]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[secret recipes]]===

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====

Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Strong Bad's Poopaw====

The reference to Strong Bad's poopaw is one of the first four times, after "Homestarloween Party", "The Facts", and "Pizzaz", that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any other relatives besides Strong Sad. The number of times that Strong Bad is mentioned as having any relatives at all, has got to be at least twenty.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is already noted in the transcript and is unanimously Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:no loafing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:27, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''*** It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thank's tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====WSBD in Ohio====

There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)

====Señor & Mr.Bland====

Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:06, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:12, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:14, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====

According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks, this item had no clear consensus with 2 Decline votes, 2 Rewrite votes, and a Move vote. The discussion for this item is moved to the [[Talk:Lappy 486]] page --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a rewritten version of this item was Accepted by a very small margin. It appears in its rewritten form on the page for [[animal]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== 3D Bubs legs (MODIFIED)====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a modified version (omitting the third sentence) was Accepted - however, a mention of this particular item is already included in the transcript, so no additional mention in the "Fun Facts" section is necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:08, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu (DECLINED)====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Compy 386]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:44, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound (MODIFIED)====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

'''VERDICT:''' A modified version of this item (without the specific e-mail reference) has been added to the transcript after an overwhelming number of Modify votes. This item is closed. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:11, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism (REVISED)====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, a revised version of this item was added to the Remarks section of [[virus]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:03, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

'''VERDICT:''' This item had no clear consenus, but with 4 strong Declines and 3 strong Accepts and a single Weak Accept, the Declines have it. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:36, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.

'''VERDICT:''' This item received only 2 votes, both for Decline, as the information was both already noted and otherwise obvious. Moved to [[Talk:virus]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:36, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====

I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of e-mails recieved to date by the site, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Drive letter ====

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====

All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''Neutral.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined after several weeks of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

'''VERDICT:''' This item has no bearing on anything regarding the 'toon in question. The item is Declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:38, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Modify this item. The modified form of this item appears on the [[Shopping for Danger]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Let's Rock and Roll! ====

Reynold's slogan "Reynold's commandos, let's rock and roll" is a spoof on the Cheat Commandos' battle cry, "Cheat commandos, rock rock on!"

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined after several weeks of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== The Haiku Triad Rule ====
The Haiku made up by Strong Bad (which includes the line "Little Brother Dork Dork Dork") is technically not a Haiku due to the little known Haiku Triad Rule, which says that the same syllable cannot be used three times in a row in a Haiku poem. Needless to say I know quite a bit about Haikus.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:16, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space (DECLINED) ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]], but a subtler mention of the name change-around appears on the [[Strong Bad Email By Name]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:23, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, no consensus was reached, with no votes for Accepting or Declining the item whatsoever. The discussion was moved over to [[Talk:Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:18, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:montage]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:montage]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Declined. Moved to [[Talk:montage]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg. This is possibly the first time Homestar wears pants.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was voted to be Accepted - however, the item was found to be factually inaccurate. A revision of the item, noting the exception, is currently on the [[montage]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations (DECLINED) ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:07, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man (Revised) ====
Biscuit Dough Hands Man is the initial suspect for Strong Bad's crimes in "[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]", created by [[Bubs]] drawing [[The King of Town|the King of Town's]] description of Strong Bad. So (when the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum says he will interview Biscuit Dough Hands Man in the next show), technically Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself" again.

'''VERDICT:''' A rewritten version of this item was Accepted and added to the [[pizzaz]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:36, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[credit card]] ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item is Declined. Moved to [[Talk:credit card]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== car ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====

Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.
*'''Revise, Move''' I think this belongs more in the Dangeresque 3 email fun facts. Also, get rid of the "Another subtle fun fact" bit. - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd actually put the Gremlin more into Bubs' possesion. He came up with it, so it just seems to work along those lines.
*'''Decline.''' As with the 'bigger wusses and lesser wimps' item up above, since when does Strong Bad always tell the truth? See [[stand-up]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:31, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' He could have also changed his mind about being seen in a car. Since this really doesn't contradict anything, it's not really worth noting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:38, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[lackey]]===

==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===

==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

*'''Rewrite'''- Too long and confusing --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:48, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ...though I almost voted Decline. The reference is a decent one. Perhaps something as simple as:
The 1936 Strong Bad, Strong Man, and The Sneak stealing the parsnips
in the wheelbarrow is reminiscent of the scene in The Reddest Radish
where their 21st-century counterparts steal Marzipan's radish.
::The mention of the speculation is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:49, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Sat, 12 Mar 2005 00:58:02 GMT

Eujensc: /* those weird little kids */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 20:37:44 GMT

Eujensc: /* Sender's parents */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:13:51 GMT

Eujensc: /* At Homestarrunner dot net */

colonization

Eujensc — Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:42:02 GMT

Eujensc: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:sbemail90.png|thumb|Strongbadia's first Thanksgiving]]

'''Strong Bad Email #90'''

Strong Bad is asked if he celebrates Thanksgiving like everyone else, or if he celebrates some weird holiday. We are then shown a history book about the colonization of [[Strongbadia]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Bubs]], [[Homestar Runner]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' November 25, 2003

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email me don't email me, email me don't email me. ''{He pulls up the email and reads it aloud.}''

<pre>Hi Strong Bad!
Do you celebrate thanksgiving
normally? Or do you have special
traditions for when Strong Badia was
first colonized? What's the story
about?

From your Buddy,
Shana Ma.
Los Angeles, CA</pre>
''{He pronounces "Los Angeles" with a hard "g".}''

''{typing}'' Oh, Shanama, the story of the colonization of Strong Badia is a tale as old as, say, the wireless web ''{pause}'' or energy drinks maybe. It began in a period of strife...

''{Cut to a shot of an old book on a wooden table. It is open and pictures Strong Bad, in a pilgrim hat, squirting ketchup onto a plate of eggs, next to Strong Sad in a wig and typical 17th-century clothing.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' ...when I was being persecuted for my beliefs.

'''STRONG SAD''': ''{voiceover}'' Ewwww! Ketchup on eggs?!?

''{A caption reading "Ewwww! Ketchup on Eggs?!?" appears beneath the picture. The page turns to show Strong Bad reading the newspaper and seeing an ad saying "LOT FOR SALE! along with a page saying "Homestar declares eggs not a fruit"}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' I learned of a place where a man can be free. Free to do what he wants to do. Free to ketchup his eggs without being hassled by the man.

''{The page turns to show Strong Bad and The Cheat, also wearing a pilgrim hat, travelling across Free Country, USA, Strong Bad carrying a musket and eating a sandwich and The Cheat dragging a bag along behind him. A caption along the bottom reads "The Three Stout Sub Sandwiches: The Ham 'n' Swiss, The Dijon Chicken and the Veggie Delux."}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' So I set sail with three stout sub sandwiches, and my best The Cheat to find this mystical land.

''{The page turns to show the two of them meeting Bubs, who is waving at them, wearing a Sioux-style father headband and wearing a loincloth.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' I met a strange man who had strange ways and strange odors.

''{The page turns to show Strong Badia in front of a glorious sunrise, above a caption reading "The Neu Wirlde."}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' And he led me to the new world, out beyond the dumpsters.

''{The page turns to show the Tire falling onto The Cheat, whose hat is sent flying from his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' There was a brief struggle with the indigenous peoples.

''{The page turns to show Strong Bad handing Bubs the rent check.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' At last, we reached an agreement to peacefully co-exist in this land, after I gave him my first and last months' rent deposit.

''{The page turns to show a ploughed field where Bubs is planting a fish. Strong Bad is looking at him, holding a fish and a corn cob in his hand.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' Then the strange man probably showed me how to put fish in the ground with corn, for some reason.

'''BUBS''': ''{voiceover}'' This'll grow ya some nice fishcorn bushes!

''{A caption reading "This'll grow ya some nice fishcorn bushes" appears at the bottom of the page. The page turns to show Bubs, The Cheat and Strong Bad sitting at a picnic table in Strongbadia, feasting on fast food.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' Then we celebrated with a feast of some cold Hardee's he had laying around.

''{Cut back to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' So there you have it, Shana... Shanamana... ''{singing}'' Shanamanamanamanamana tonight! That shoulda been in your history books at school. I gotta get on those people over at Hoofton Mifflin. Those guys are slackin off. ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so until next week, leave me alone!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*After the email is over, click the first part of the word Shanamanamanamanana and Strong Bad will "Shanama" into some songs.
::'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' O Shanama... do do doot doot doot doo... ''{stops singing}'' What else is there? Shana... Shanamatopoeia. Ooh, how 'bout this? ''{singing}'' Shanama! Shanama ho ho ho huh ho!
*Click on the the words "history books" to hear Homestar Runner address the imaginary masses.
::''{Cut to a page in a history book with a drawing of Homestar is dressed in Colonial American attire (with powdered wig), with text below it reading "Homestar Runner addresses the imaginary masses." The imaginary masses cheer.}''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A-hem. From this day forward, I hearby declare eggs... not to be... a fruit! ''{The imaginary masses cheer}'' Yes yes, quiet down. And furthermore, no longer shall dirty diapers be accepted as legal tender! ''{The imaginary masses cheer}'' Hang on, I got one more. Henceforth, those named Henry will no longer be allowed to call themselves Hank. That's just too much of a stretch. ''{The imaginary masses cheer}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

===Remarks===
*According to the later e-mail [[monument]], the stop sign and cinder block make up a monument of Strong Bad's right foot. However, they are shown in this e-mail as being part of the area when Strong Bad bought it from Bubs.

===Inside References===
*The crowd cheers in the second Easter egg are from [[A Decemberween Pageant]].
*The intentional spelling error of "new" in "The Neu Wirlde" may be a reference to "Neuconsin" in [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]]. ''(also see Real-World References)''
*Strong Bad moving around the screen jerkily may be a reference to [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], where Homestar does the same thing while ordering drinks.
===Real-World References===
*"Shanama, Shanama ho ho ho ho ho!" is sung to the tune of "Panama" by Van Halen. And "Oh Shanama" is to the tune of "O Canada," the Canadian national anthem.
*Homestar declaring eggs not to be a fruit may be a reference to the famous 1893 Supreme Court decision ([http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=149&invol=304 Nix v. Hedden]) that [[Wikipedia:Tomato#Controversies|tomatoes were not fruits]].
*"Neu" (pronounced "noy") is the German word for "new." ''(also see Inside References)''
*Bubs planting fish-corn bushes is a reference to when the Indians showed the Pilgrims how to grow corn (they used fish heads as fertilizer).
*Hardee's is a fast-food chain popular in the eastern United States.
*"Hoofton Mifflin" is a misspelling (and misprounciation) of scholastic publisher [[Wikipedia:Houghton Mifflin|Houghton Mifflin]].
*Some Indians did put fish in that ground to make the soil better for growing crops.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail90.html watch "colonization"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail90.swf view the flash file for "colonization"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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3 wishes

Eujensc — Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:41:14 GMT

Eujensc: Sorry, wrong email

[[Image:sbemail27.PNG|thumb|Strong Bad's wish]]

'''Strong Bad Email #27'''

Brandon Hofer asks Strong Bad what his second wish would be if he had three wishes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]
__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I got an email. I got an awesome email. ''{stops singing}''

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
If you had three wishes, what would the second
one be?

Much Crap,
Brandon Hofer
Judson College
Elgin, IL</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Geez, I didn't need your freaking life story man. ''{typing}'' Augh, that's an easy one Brandon. Horns. No question. I'd wish for a pair of horns. Here, check it out.

''{Strong Bad bends to the desk and starts drawing. He draws a picture of himself with horns and holds the paper up to show it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look at how great I would look man. So majestic, yet so wicked awesome. Like I could maybe go on tour with some heavy metal band and like be their mascot you know and come out on stage, and have some type of laser fight with the lead singer and all the fans will go nuts. Oh man, that would be great.

''{He puts away the picture of himself with horns.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay you guys, so until next week, it's not required that you sign your email "Crapfully yours" or "With a bunch of crap" or "Crap in the times" or "Crap is so great", "Everything is crap", "My middle name is Crapperson". You know, you could just put "Sincerely"... or "Yours truly", that's another good one. Come on guys, I'll still read them.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

''{He picks up the picture of himself with horns again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know these horns kinda look like croissants the way I drew them. Maybe my third wish will be for a couple of croissants. Yeah, like heat it up with some butter melting on the top.

''{He puts away the picture and clears his throat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I got to get The Cheat to get me some of those... some of those... ''{with a heavy french accent}'' croissants.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*With the exception of [[butt IQ]] and [[CGNU]] (which are abbreviations), this is the only e-mail with a capital letter in its name.
*This is the first (but far from last) time that Strong Bad complains about people giving "crappy" closings to their e-mails.

===Goofs===

*If you zoom in on the drawing in the flash file, the lines remain the same width no matter how far you zoom in.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail27.html watch "3 Wishes"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail27.swf view the flash file for "3 Wishes"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]

3 wishes

Eujensc — Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:37:11 GMT

Eujensc: /* Trivia */

[[Image:sbemail27.PNG|thumb|Strong Bad's wish]]

'''Strong Bad Email #27'''

Brandon Hofer asks Strong Bad what his second wish would be if he had three wishes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]
__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I got an email. I got an awesome email. ''{stops singing}''

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
If you had three wishes, what would the second
one be?

Much Crap,
Brandon Hofer
Judson College
Elgin, IL</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Geez, I didn't need your freaking life story man. ''{typing}'' Augh, that's an easy one Brandon. Horns. No question. I'd wish for a pair of horns. Here, check it out.

''{Strong Bad bends to the desk and starts drawing. He draws a picture of himself with horns and holds the paper up to show it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look at how great I would look man. So majestic, yet so wicked awesome. Like I could maybe go on tour with some heavy metal band and like be their mascot you know and come out on stage, and have some type of laser fight with the lead singer and all the fans will go nuts. Oh man, that would be great.

''{He puts away the picture of himself with horns.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay you guys, so until next week, it's not required that you sign your email "Crapfully yours" or "With a bunch of crap" or "Crap in the times" or "Crap is so great", "Everything is crap", "My middle name is Crapperson". You know, you could just put "Sincerely"... or "Yours truly", that's another good one. Come on guys, I'll still read them.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

''{He picks up the picture of himself with horns again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know these horns kinda look like croissants the way I drew them. Maybe my third wish will be for a couple of croissants. Yeah, like heat it up with some butter melting on the top.

''{He puts away the picture and clears his throat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I got to get The Cheat to get me some of those... some of those... ''{with a heavy french accent}'' croissants.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*With the exception of [[butt IQ]] and [[CGNU]] (which are abbreviations), this is the only e-mail with a capital letter in its name.
*This is the first (but far from last) time that Strong Bad complains about people giving "crappy" closings to their e-mails.
*This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

===Goofs===

*If you zoom in on the drawing in the flash file, the lines remain the same width no matter how far you zoom in.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail27.html watch "3 Wishes"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail27.swf view the flash file for "3 Wishes"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:30:52 GMT

Eujensc: /* Order? */

homsar

Eujensc — Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:08:37 GMT

Eujensc:

[[Image:sbemail2.PNG|thumb|The first appearance of everyone's favorite blue midget Homestar...Homsar!!]]

''This is an article about homsar, the [[Strong Bad Email]]. For the [[Characters|character]] of the same name see [[Homsar]].''

'''Strong Bad Email #2'''

A misspelling of "Homestar" leaves Strong Bad "killing" "Homsar".

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homsar]]
__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm gonna check my email all of the time, doo doo doo... ''{stops singing}''

Hi Strong Bad,
If you hate Homsar so much,
why don't you kill him?
-Vinnie C.

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what, Vinnie? You're right. I'll be right back.

''{Cut to Homsar standing in a field. Strong Bad enters the frame in the foreground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Homsar!

'''HOMSAR:''' Uhdyeah, What ees it, Strong Baaaaayd?

''{Strong Bad leaves the frame and a [[Heavy Lourde|HEAVY LOURDE]] falls on Homsar, completely crushing him.}''
''{Cut back to [[Tandy 400]].}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh man, Vinnie. That feels so much better. Thanks a lot! ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so until next time keep sending me your questions and I will keep making fun of your punctuation and spelling. I mean, answer them.

''{[[The Paper]] comes out and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad", click on the text to email him.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*"Lourde" is French for "heavy."
===Trivia===
*This is the first email in which Strong Bad makes fun of someone's spelling.
*This is also the first email that shows an area outside of the computer room.
*This is Homsar's first appearance.
*This is the first email where a character besides Strong Bad appears.

===Fast Forward===
*In this email, Homsar's bowler hat is noticeably larger than in future toons.
*The HEAVY LOURDE makes another appearance in the [[Homsar Main Page]] and in [[stunt double]].

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail2.html watch "homsar"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail2.swf view the flash file for "homsar"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homsar Filmography]]
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

unused emails

Eujensc — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:59:45 GMT

Eujensc: Remark added

[[Image:sbemail65.PNG|thumb|Filing all the crap emails]]

'''Strong Bad Email #65'''

Strong Bad explains what happens to all the unused emails he gets every week.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]]

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh! Check it out! Another one of those...sbemails!

''{reading}''

<pre>Hey Strong Bad,
I was wondering what you do with the
emails that don't get showed on the
weekly email.

Dan Chase,
Aurora, Illinois</pre>

''{Strong Bad stops and says "Hey!" after reading "Hey Strong Bad," and pronounces Illinois as "Illi-nwah"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh... ''{typing}'' Wha-hoah, Dan. You mean what do I do with the thousands and THOUSANDS of near unreadable emails I get every day? I like to mix it up!

''{cut to the Cheat carrying some papers, organizing them into huge stacks}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Sometimes I give them to the Cheat for filing. And archiving.

''{The Cheat sticks an email in the Medium category. Strong Bad sticks his head in the screen.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' Hello.

'''STRONG BAD:''' No man, that's a short.

''{The Cheat shrugs, and attempts to retrieve the e-mail, but is too short to reach the top of the pile. Cut to Strong Bad and Bubs standing at the stick, not facing each other. Strong Bad has a CD, Bubs has a bag of cash labeled "The Payoff".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Or if I'm strapped for cash, I'll sell the e-mail addresses to Bubs for use in his free weekly spamvertisements.

''{Strong Bad drops the CD}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oops! Lookit that! I dropped a CD of five-thousand email addresses!

''{Bubs throws the bag of money on the ground}''

'''BUBS:''' Whoops! I dropped a quarter for each one!

''{Cut to Strong Mad crumpling up papers}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And sometimes I give them to my big brother Strong Mad, for the Japanese art of paper-folding.

''{Strong Bad walks on screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, how are your origamis? Is that one the crane?

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{holds up two crumpled-up balls of paper}'' THIS IS A LOTUS FLOWER! THIS IS A PRAYING MANTIS!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah, that's great, man. {sniffs} Incredible likeness.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in front of the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But mostly the emails I don't use just get... ''{stops typing and stands up, backing up slowly}'' A-digga...a-digga...a-digga-digga...a-digga...a-diggity... ''{starts running back towards the desk}'' DIGGITY DIGGITY DIGGITY DIGGITY A-DELETEEEEEED!!!!!! ''{jumps and does an elbow drop on the keyboard, breaking the desk in half. After a pause, the screen flashes [[DELETED]]!!}'' Ohhhhh....I think I broke my clavicus...majorus.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*When you see The Cheat with the three stacks of emails, you can click on the top of each pile for a sample of some emails (click the close button to close each email.)
*You can click on the top of Strong Mad's pile of emails for another look at these wonderful emails Strong Bad gets.
*At the very end you can click on the words on Strong Bad's screen to bring up Bubs' Weekly Spamvertisement.
*You can click on the picture of the product in the Weekly Spamvertisement to see more products from Bubs.
**The products are:
***A plastic tape dispenser
***A small cup of ketchup
***A jar of beans & vegetables
*Here are the unused emails which appear in this toon:
**Medium stack:
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
This is my best one. Do you like it! I hope that you
do.</pre>
<pre>HOW DUMB IS IT BEING A DUMB ROBOT. I AM GLAD YOU ARE A
ROBOT NOT ME. GO AND KILL ANY ONE YOU HATE.

YOUR NOT BIGGEST FAN
EVAN</pre>
**Tall stack:
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
why don 't you do that thing?</pre>
<pre>hey i like ur e-mail and games i am stephanie and i am
10/f/nj and i play baseball cheerleader

from stephanie

poobears</pre>
**Short stack:
<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
I tried to email you twice yesterday. You didn't email
back. 'Sup wit dat? I'm out like that.</pre>
<pre>Do you have a monkey if you do you are crap. If you
don't are still crap so leave me alone crap head. Stop
making me right this stupid crappy letter to you. So
buy craphead uh I mean crapface wait no crapnose
rrrrrghhh whatever you are stupid and have an ugly
butt and your stupid and a piece of crap. Oh yeah your
also stupid.

sincerely, me Andrew Shapiro

PS: Your still crap and always will be crap. And
please kill hamesturrunner please PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE.
Bye bye.</pre>
**Strong Mad's stack:
<pre>Dear, Strong Bad
Do you enloy reasing?</pre>

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*"It happened to my roommate" in the spam easter egg probably refers to chain letters, and the fact that most chain letters involve some type of miracle happening, as well as saying "It happened to ''this person''", as well as the fact of forwarding it to 50 people in order for it "to happen to you".
===Trivia===
*The CD he gives Bubs says "The Goods" and Bubs's bag of money says "The Payoff".
*The quarters that Bubs gives Strong Bad in exchange for the email addresses total $1,250 ($0.25 x 5,000), and would weigh 62.37lbs.
*This is one of the few instances where you can actually understand one of The Cheat's words. He says "hello" when we see him filing unused email into the three stacks.

===Inside References===
*According to commentary on the [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD]] the "clavicus... majorus" line was originally to be used in the unfinished toon [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]].
*When Strong Bad runs toward the computer he passes past the same door and window about four times, as in [[gimmicks]] when the Tandy explodes.
===Real-World References===
*The email address the Weekly Spamvertisement is directed to (squealydee678@kindergartencop.edu), a reference to the Arnold Schwarzenegger film Kindergarten Cop.
*The "clavicus majorus" is a play on two body parts: the clavicle (a neck bone) and the gluteus-maximus (the butt).

===Remarks===
*Since Strong Bad clearly reads his emails on-screen using "strongbad_email.exe", there is no rational reason as to why he would print out the crap ones before giving the pages to Strong Mad for his origami.

===Fast Forward===
*The "Digga-Digga-Digga... [[DELETED]]!" line is used again in [[car]].

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail65.html watch "unused emails"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail65.swf view the flash file for "unused emails"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:14:01 GMT

Eujensc: /* Fifty frickin' wings */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Eujensc — Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:39:41 GMT

Eujensc: /* C. elegans */

Super NES

Eujensc — Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:08:07 GMT

Eujensc:

[[Image:snes.png|thumb|The first Homestar Runner cartoon ever, made using Mario Paint]]

This is the first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made. In this toon, see Homestar dance in a field, fly through space, run around a boxing ring with Strong Bad, lift weights, and even play guitar -- all to the accompaniment of annoying vocals and an electronic rhythm section. Near the end, you can also see early versions of The Cheat, Strong Mad, and Strong Sad, plus Strong Bad's pointy green tongue. Unlike the other toons, this runs in QuickTime instead of Flash.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Pom Pom]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Strong Sad]]

'''Page title:''' Super Homestario Bros.

== Transcript ==
'''TEXT:''' THE FIRST HOMESTAR CARTOON EVER 
MADE ON THE SNES USING MARIO PAINT

Homestar Run GO! 
Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run! 
Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run!

Homestar Runner really great, 
Homestar Runner, ath -ah- lete 
Homestar Runner, Pom Pom too 
Homestar Runner, we love you!

Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run! 
Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run!

Homestar Runner, do your best 
Homestar Runner, pass the test 
Homestar Runner, Mom and Dad 
Look out, Homestar! It's Strong Bad!

Hoooomestaaaar Run! 
Weekdays.

'''TEXT:''' COPYRIGHT HOMESTARRUNNER.COM 
1996 AND 2000

== Japanese Phonetics Transcript ==

アホチスカヲ (Strong Bad and Homestar in the wrestling ring.)

ソコカオヲタス 
ウコスキテホ. (Pom Pom floating by. . .)

えおか?
せきひ (Homestar with a yellow background.)

クキカ'''?''' アシネ
オスセ-ホヌツネ! (The Homestar Runner splash.)

=== Transliteration of the above ===

ahochisu kawo 
sokokaowotasu: 
ukosukite ho. 
Eoka-? 
Sekihi 
kukika-?-ashine 
osuse-honutsune! 

== Fun Facts ==
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] made this for their older brother's birthday.
*We finally see Strong Bad's tongue, which happens to be green.
*The Japanese characters are written mostly in [[Wikipedia:Katakana|katakana]], which is a character set used in written Japanese used primarily to write foreign words and non-language sounds. The exception is the "Homestar with yellow background" screen which is also contains [[Wikipedia:Hiragana|hiragana]], which are used in a more general-purpose fashion in conjunction with [[Wikipedia:Kanji|kanji]]. The Brothers Chaps seem, however, to be expressing jibberish.
*The music that accompanies this toon could not possibly have been made using Mario Paint, which has a fixed note length and can only play notes in the key of C.

== External Links ==
'''Note: Apple Quicktime is needed to view this toon.'''

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/secrets.html watch "Super NES"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/oldstar.mov view the QuickTime file for "Super NES"]

[[Category: Early Work]]

Super NES

Eujensc — Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:47:27 GMT

Eujensc: Added fact

[[Image:snes.png|thumb|The first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made using Mario Paint]]

This is the first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made. In this toon, see Homestar dance in a field, fly through space, run around a boxing ring with Strong Bad, lift weights, and even play guitar -- all to the accompaniment of annoying vocals and an electronic rhythm section. Near the end, you can also see early versions of The Cheat, Strong Mad, and Strong Sad, plus Strong Bad's pointy green tongue. Unlike the other toons, this runs in QuickTime instead of Flash.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Pom Pom]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Strong Sad]]

'''Page title:''' Super Homestario Bros.

== Transcript ==
'''TEXT:''' THE FIRST HOMESTAR CARTOON EVER 
MADE ON THE SNES USING MARIO PAINT

Homestar Run GO! 
Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run! 
Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run!

Homestar Runner really great, 
Homestar Runner, ath -ah- lete 
Homestar Runner, Pom Pom too 
Homestar Runner, we love you!

Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run! 
Hooomestaaaar! Run! Run!

Homestar Runner, do your best 
Homestar Runner, pass the test 
Homestar Runner, Mom and Dad 
Look out, Homestar! It's Strong Bad!

Hoooomestaaaar Run! 
Weekdays.

'''TEXT:''' COPYRIGHT HOMESTARRUNNER.COM 
1996 AND 2000

== Japanese Phonetics Transcript ==

アホチスカヲ (Strong Bad and Homestar in the wrestling ring.)

ソコカオヲタス 
ウコスキテホ. (Pom Pom floating by. . .)

えおか?
せきひ (Homestar with a yellow background.)

クキカ'''?''' アシネ
オスセ-ホヌツネ! (The Homestar Runner splash.)

=== Transliteration of the above ===

ahochisu kawo 
sokokaotasu: 
ukosukite ho. 
Eoka-? 
Sekihi 
kukika-?-ashine 
osuse-honutsune! 

== Fun Facts ==
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] made this for their older brother's birthday.
*We finally see Strong Bad's tongue, which happens to be green.
*The Japanese characters are written mostly in [[Wikipedia:Katakana|katakana]], which is a character set used in written Japanese used primarily to write foreign words and non-language sounds. The exception is the "Homestar with yellow background" screen which is also contains [[Wikipedia:Hiragana|hiragana]], which are used in a more general-purpose fashion in conjunction with [[Wikipedia:Kanji|kanji]]. The Brothers Chaps seem, however, to be expressing jibberish.
*The music that accompanies this toon could not possibly have been made using Mario Paint, which has a fixed note length and can only play notes in the key of C.

== External Links ==
'''Note: Apple Quicktime is needed to view this toon.'''

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/secrets.html watch "Super NES"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/oldstar.mov view the QuickTime file for "Super NES"]

[[Category: Early Work]]

Ballad of The Sneak

Eujensc — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:54:29 GMT

Eujensc:

[[Image:balladofthesneak.PNG|thumb|220px|A song and dance on the high steel]]

'''The Ballad of The Sneak'''

Performed by [[DaVinci's Notebook]].

The [[1936]] equivalent of [[The Cheat Theme Song]], sung by [[The Barbershop Trio]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[The Barbershop Trio]], [[The Sneak]], [[The Guy at the Depot]], [[The Strong Bad]], [[The Homestar Runner]], [[Fat Dudley]], [[Sickly Sam]], [[1936 Marzipan]], [[Strong Man]], [[The Football Player]], [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]] (sort of), [[The Kaiser]].

Page Title: '''The Ballad of The Sneak'''
__FORCETOC__
== Lyrics ==

I know a lively fellow,
who is really quite unique. 
He's small and smart and yellow, 
with a rodent-like physique. 
He doesn't play the cello, 
and he never deigns to speak. 
He's The Strong Bad's Leporello, 
and they just call him The Sneak! 

If you've got a caper 
then you know who to call. 
It's the Sneak! 
It's The Sneak! 
Who's the Dapper Swindler 
out of Tammany Hall? 
Mo-mo-lo-de-oh-do 
It's The Sneak! 

That charming little whatzit 
who's The Strong Man's greatest pal? 
It's The Sneak! 
It's The Sneak! 
Who did the Hully-Gully 
on the Panama Canal? 
Doo-wacka-doo-wacka-doo 
It's The Sneak! 

''{instrumental}'' 

Who's that jaunty jackanapes 
with moxie and pizazz? 
It's The Sneak! (Yes, sir!) 
It's The Sneak! 
Who's been drinking bootleg hooch 
and listening to the jazz? 
Mo-mo-lo-de-oh-do 
It's The Sneak! 

Who captures all the flapper girls' affections? 
Who made off with my Fluffy Puff confections? 
He's dastardly! 
He loves catastrophe! 
His schemes are masterly! 
Takes tea at half past three! 
That sneaky sneak is sneakin' all over town! 

Who dropped The Homestar Runner 
from his flying machine? (Humdinger!) 
Is it The Sneak? (28 skidoo!) 
It's The Sneak! 
Who put a bengal tiger 
in The Kaiser's latrine? (Ach Du lieber!) 
It's The Sneak! (What's the rumpus?) 
You know it's The Sneak! (Take it home!) 
The Sneakity Sneak all day long! 

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*This toon features everyone's 1936 counterparts except The Poopsmith's.
*The dance [[Sickly Sam]] does is the Charleston, a popular dance in the 1920s and 30s.
*The Hully Gully was a hit in the 1960s, but wasn't around in 1936.
*A jackanape is a whippersnapper. An upstart. A rascal.
*This toon, as well as [[That A Ghost]], refers to illegal alcohol, but Prohibition had been repealed before 1936/37, when the cartoons were supposedly made.

=== Inside References ===
* The Sneak being silhouetted and going across hills may be a reference to the
[http://www.homestarrunner.com/run2x.html 2nd intro].
*Seeing as the Sneak is the 1936 parallel of [[The Cheat]], the scene of the Sneak's head being blown back and turned black by the phonograph is most likely a reference to [[The Cheat's Head Exploding]].
*This is effectively the 1936 version of [[The Cheat Theme Song]].

=== Real-World References===
*"Leporello" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Mozart|Mozart]] opera ''[[Wikipedia:Don Giovanni|Don Giovanni]].'' In it, Leporello is a side-kick to the Spanish legend.
*"[[Wikipedia:Tammany Hall|Tammany Hall]]" was a political society in [[Wikipedia:New York City|New York City]] (19th/early 20th century), known for its corruption and power. ''William Tweed'' was a strong figure in Tammany. (see below)
[[Image:Boss Tweed.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Boss removes Sneak from Hall]]
*A political cartoon appears briefly which features [[The Sneak]] getting booted out of a door by a foot that says "'''Prohibition?'''" [[The Sneak]] has dropped a paper that says "'''Hoot-Smalley Tariff'''" and the caption reads "[[Wikipedia:Boss Tweed|Boss Tweed]] gives The Sneak what-for!"
**The "'''Hoot-Smalley Tariff'''" is a play off of the "'''[[Wikipedia:Smoot-Hawley Tariff|Smoot-Hawley Tariff]]'''" that was enacted during ''[[Wikipedia:Great Depression|The Great Depression]]'', largely considered to be one of the most inept pieces of legislation ever passed by congress.
*The scene with the Sneak and the phonograph is a parody of a well-known advertisment for the old devices which featured a little dog looking into an RCA Victor gramophone ("His master's voice").
*Ach du lieber "Why I ever!", is a reference to the Viennese folk song [http://www.globalia.net/donlope/fz/songs/Ach_Du_Lieber_Augustine.html "Ach du lieber Augustin"].
**The line may also be "Ach der lieber!", a reference to the song ''Return of the Red Baron'' by the Royal Guardsmen. This is the curse the Baron yells at Snoopy, which means "Oh dear!"
*"Moxie" is the name of a soft drink (still made but hard to find) whose name became a term meaning liveliness and daring.
*[[Wikipedia:Bootleg|Bootleg]] [[Wikipedia:Hooch|Hooch]] (or "''Moonshine''") is homemade [[Wikipedia:whiskey|whiskey]] that is produced and/or sold through illegal methods.
*Just a little history lesson for everyone who doesn't know about [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]]:
:Prohibition was a Constitutional amendment passed in 1919 that outlawed the sale, manufacture, and transportion of alcoholic beverages. It was eventually repealed in 1933. It's considered to be the most unsuccessful law ever.
*"The Ballad of the Sneak" also appears on the album "Shame and Cookie Dough" by Paul and Storm, two former members of DaVinci's Notebook. The CD includes the original H*R.com version and one with commentary.
*"28 skidoo" is a play on "[[Wikipedia:23 skidoo|23 skidoo]]", a bit of slang popular during the [[Wikipedia:Roaring Twenties|Roaring Twenties]]. It generally meant to leave quickly, sometimes specifically meaning to "get out while the getting's good" (very appropriate for the Sneak). [http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/23%20skidoo Webster's Online Dictionary] offers a number of possible origins for the phrase.
*"What's the rumpus" is probably a reference to [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100150/ ''Miller's Crossing''], a Prohibition-era gangster movie, in which it is used as a greeting by several characters.
*The Sir Strong Bad watch is a reference to the old [http://www.boomertime.com/4%20Character/C2491/c2491.jpg Mickey Mouse watches] of the 1930s.
*The scene with the Sneak running inside an I-beam while other characters dance on top may be a visual reference to the old Atari game [http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=360 Pitfall]. If nothing else, several cartoons from the time period featured characters playing in the I-beams of construction sites, such as Olive Oyl when she was hypnotized by Bluto in a Popeye cartoon.
*The Sneak is stomping on a player piano, which means he's not actually playing it.
*The poster with The Dappler Swindler has "known in the Northwest Territories as The Sneak" at the bottom. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territories Northwest Territories] is a territory located in, well, the northwest of Canada.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sneakvideo.html watch "Ballad of The Sneak"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sneakvideo.swf view the flash file for "Ballad of The Sneak"]

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