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Geonightman — Sun, 05 Jan 2020 15:55:42 GMT

Geonightman: The addition of MP26 seems to have fixed it for 12, but zooming in shows 26 is peeking over the edge. The Page Image shows the old version; if that information is worth archiving we can use that.

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[[Image:Main25.PNG|220px|thumb|"Goin' on my 7th coffee run. You want anything?"]]

The puppets create a main page.

'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' {{Film|Puppet Homestar}}, {{Film|Puppet The Cheat}}, {{Film|Puppet Marshie}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] [[Doreauxgard]], {{Film|Puppet Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Exact Same}}, {{Film|Shark-Tooth Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The Office]]

'''Date:''' Monday, August 25, 2008

'''Icon:''' Puppet Homestar

'''Page Title:''' Sponsored by Hollerin' Jimmy's Hobby Kits!

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — As Homestar says "Toons," The Cheat walks by, holding an inflatable boom box. He makes some The Cheat noises as he passes. A riff from [[Everybody Knows It]] plays, and Homestar bounces to the beat.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — Marshie appears and says "Hey juys, wanna play some james?!" Homestar trembles at his appearance, then replies, "Um... not with you, creepazoid!", and Marshie disappears.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — A red curtain with images of Homestar and Doreauxgard falls. After Homestar says "Characters", Doreauxgard appears and says, "Character? You ain't got no character, Whitey! I'm outta here!" and leaves. The curtain rises.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — The scene shifts to the water cooler in the office. Homestar's outfit changes to his biz cas fri outfit. He says, "I need those downloads on my desk by five!" Strong Bad peers in, also in business casual and holding a coffee cup, and says, "Goin' on my seventh coffee run. You want anything?"
*'''[[Store]]''' — A second Homestar puppet appears and says, in a very non-Homestar-ish voice, "The store." His mouth does not move; instead talk lines appear on the screen. The original Homestar asks "Who are you?" The second replies, "Well, I am the exact same."
*'''[[Email|E-mail]]''' — After Homestar says "Email", a hand holding Shark-Tooth Bubs appears. Shark-Tooth Bubs says, "Is it like an email pie of some kind, or maybe barf bags, all that good stuff?"

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This is the only Main Page that plays at [[Higher Frames Per Second|15 frames per second]] as opposed to 12 FPS.
*This is the first appearance of the brand new Homestar Runner Logo as a preloader. (Previous logos were flat-colored and shaded. This version of the logo, however, appears to have taken on a metallic sheen.)
*This and Main Page 24 are the only Main Pages that have the metallic, slightly brighter buttons.
*The only "puppet" that appeared before this main page that was not included was [[Frank Bennedetto]].
*This is the website debut of the Doreauxgard puppet (not including the cantaloupe used in [[lackey]]), who had previously only been seen in [[Interviews and Public Appearances|public appearances]].
*[[Main Page 23]] did not link to this page until 2010.
*The "E-mail" button is the only one that retains the standard audio files used on the other main pages.

===Remarks===
[[File:homestar puppet mp25.png|thumb|200px|Toons Menu Preview]]
*The new button style was previously used in [[Main Page 24]].
*The button for [[Main Page 26]] overlaps the white stripe, probably due to the lack of room for 26 buttons.
*After the opening riff for ''Everybody Knows It'' plays, a faint "every" sung by Homestar Runner can be heard.
*After the "e-mail" animation, Homestar is not in the same place he started and twitches back into place. It also happens before and after the "games" animation.
*This is the first [[Main Pages|Main Page]] to be linked to the [[New Stuff]] section of the [[TV Time Toons Menu]].
**The preview for this main page, located on the toons menu, does not resemble this main page, and uses the puppet stuff background.
*This marks the first speaking appearance of [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] on the website. In [[theme park]], he was accessed as an Easter egg and did not speak.

===Glitches===
*Main Page 25 does not function correctly on web browsers with [[Wikipedia:Adobe Flash Player|Adobe Flash Player]] 7 or lower installed. The text on the links on the left side of the screen is missing. No backgrounds show up, except for the curtain, which does not have the logo on it. Also, no lines come out of [[The Exact Same]]'s mouth when he speaks. Also, the icon for [[Main Page 24]] appears as the same one for [[Main Page 23]].

===Inside References===
*This contains an instance of [[duplicate characters]].
*The second Homestar that appears was previously seen in [[strong badathlon]].
*The page title mentions [[Hollerin' Jimmy's Hobby Kit]].
*Marshie [[G#Mispronunciation_of_G|mispronounces G]], much like in his commercial in [[the show]].
*The voice on Shark-Tooth Bubs is the same as that of "Bubs" in the [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoon [[mile]].
*Shark-Tooth Bubs mentions [[pie]].
*"Barf bags" is a reference to [[puking]].

===Fast Forward===
*This hybrid style of puppets and animation, as well as all of the characters except for The Exact Same, later appear in [[The Animated Adventures of Puppet Homestar]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:main25.html|go to Main Page 25]]
*[[HR:main25.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 25]]
*[[Forum:14664|forum thread re: Main Page 25]]
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Talk:hremail 3184

Geonightman — Sat, 29 Jun 2019 21:07:28 GMT

Geonightman: /**/Doom Ref

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==Category==
Should we categorize this as a toon, Homestar Runner email, or Strong Bad email? Maybe as all three? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Definitely Hremail and Sbemail. It's already on the Email list, and it has Hremail already in the title. {{User:Itama/sig}} 06:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::It's listed as a sbemail on homestarrunner.com. We should go with that.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::: It's important to note that on the main page, it's listed as "New Toon," but does have "HREMAIL" in the title AND shows up in the SBEMAIL list on Denny's Menu... so, in a strange twist of fate, it is regarded as all three? [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:::: Also, on the toons page the tell-tale "HRE" blob makes it a definate hremail, and Denny's Menu calls it out as a sbemail, so it is, indeed, both. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 01:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

That phrase Homestar says.. "Don't Call it a comeback"... isn't that an L.L. Cool J lyric?

Actually, this is more of a sbemail, because TBC has changed the "New Toon" bubble to "new strong bad email". [[User:SuperLuigi|SuperLuigi]] 14:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:I always though that a Hremail ''is'' a toon. Hremails don't have there own button on the remote. But any way, lets look at the facts. The html says hremail. The main page says new sbemail. And in the Denny's Menu it says Hremail 3184. But in fun in the living room, the Hremail is only in the new stuff page. If you click on toons, it is nowhere, just like a sbemail. I think that on the new stuff page, it should say that it is a sbemail, because it is classified as such. What do you all think? [[User:origonalname]]

== Fun Fact? ==

Should we add a fun fact that in the commentary for [[email thunder]], Matt Chapman said that there would be no more emails? Or is it not important enough? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 08:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Easy Button? REALLY? ==

I was more reminded of those USB panic buttons and such, and TBH the 'easy button' isn't the only big red button out there. There's an excuse button, a bull**** button, an insult button, all kindsa buttons.
:I'm not trying to police the wiki, but I don't think you should use swear words, even on the talk pages. {{User:BubbleRevolution/sig}} 18:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, really, they sell a such thing as a button that says 'Bull****' when you press it. And it's common courtesy not to edit peoples' statements on talk pages, so I'd like it if you don't edit what I said, even if for censorship purposes, which I don't really support anyway. [[Special:Contributions/98.176.133.158|98.176.133.158]] 21:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Nobody cares what you don't support. Follow the rules, anonny. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Please don't be hatin', peoples. If the curse word is removed per Wiki policy, then there's no need to continue the conversation. Back on the actual ''topic'' of this post, I think it looks really similar to the easy button, and is shown at a straight-on angle as in the commercials for whatever store (Office Max? Staples?). --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::IMHO, it just looks like any other oversized red button. But whatever. [[Special:Contributions/98.176.133.158|98.176.133.158]] 13:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::The easy button came to mind first for me, but I think nonetheless it's rather TTATOT. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 19:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::This is pretty cut and dried, guys. It resembles a Staples Easy Button almost to a T. The only difference is the font used for "dooj." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|I slayed the Kerrek]]. Really. 03:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I think the staples easy button is certainly the most famous of big red buttons of this shape, if not the only one (as i haven't seen anything similar that wasn't a parody of the staples button already). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I send a email for Homestar

Dear Strong Bad
the sbemail 200 is your last email. [[User:Lucsar|Lucsar]] 11:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Uhhhhhhh... no kiddin'... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 11:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::I think we should close this discussion topic. [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 16:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

::: Okay, so you sent Homestar an email for Strong Bad and used terrible grammer. So? [[User:SBE-mail Checker Dan]]

== Disc 7 ==

So, having made this email, this either means TBC will put this on Everything Else Vol. 4, or strongbad_email.exe Disc 7. And if it is the email DVD, then they will have to make at least 29 more. And then stopping at 230 would look untidy, so then they might make another 70 and release it as discs 8 and 9. But then they might want to take it up to at least an even 10... Hmmmmmmm... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 11:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Or maybe they don't _have_ to make anything but rather just do stuff they like whenever they have an idea and the time. ;) If they should decide to end sbemails for good one day and happen to end them with an uneven number or too little content for a new DVD, they can do that. They could put them on a mixed DVD with "Everything Else" or just leave it at that and never sell them at all. Or they would find other options. Anyway, I think you get my point. ;) (It's me, Cass from Germany. Comp just logged me out.) --[[Special:Contributions/95.222.57.4|95.222.57.4]] 12:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, maybe that would have been better to put on the forum... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Beth-shiba? ==

Is Senor Cardgage saying, "Beth-shiba," as written in the transcript, or [[Wikipedia:Bathsheba|Bathsheba]]?
:I'm pretty sure it's "Beth", because this is Senor we're talking about. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::He pronounced it Bath. The vowel sound Senor makes is almost 100% clearly an A sound. [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 13:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::: I agree it's "Bathsheba" [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Should that become a real-world reference with the Wikipedia link? --[[User:Rotanagol|Rotanagol]] 16:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I tried, but it got removed as a "common name." I'm pretty sure it's not such in the US, at least outside of specific jewish communities, and even then I'd bet it's largely traceable to the Bathsheba refered to in the wiki link, but I'll let the wiki community decide, I guess. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.130|132.183.140.130]] 17:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::As for pronunciation, i'm neutral... it's could be a portmanteau between "beth" and "bathsheba", or just "bathsheba". that's not why i'm commenting. I'm commenting because it is certainly not a RWR, and probably isn't necessary as an explanation. I feel like it's a commonly enough KNOWN name, even if not many people HAVE it. But then again, i do come from one of those jewish-type communities the anonny mentioned, so i may have a bit of a skewed perception. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I for one, have never heard of such a name and live in a major city. It probably would be useful to explain what this is, or at least provide a wiki link in the transcript itself rather than a RWR. -[[Special:Contributions/24.118.94.73|24.118.94.73]] 06:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I suspect it's not so much a regional thing as a background thing: people of certain backgrounds, including Deffy's, are likely to be familiar with the [[Wikipedia:Bible|book]] in question (I'm familiar with the name, too, in large part because I'm from [[Wikipedia:Christianity|another background]] that tends to be familiar with that book). Of course, just for cultural reasons, many Westerners with a non-religious background also have some knowledge of these things, and I'm not sure if this is obscure enough to need explaining or if doing so is too much explaining the joke. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Also, we never link in the transcript. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I just created the real-world reference and removed it after finding this thread. I'm not saying it isn't a real world reference, and interestingly, when you do a search for bathsheba in wikipedia it links to the famous character in Judeo-Christian religion. I think Bathsheba is much more well known as a person than as a name, but that being said, it doesn't really illuminate much to put it as a rwr. [[Special:Contributions/71.92.222.251|71.92.222.251]]

== Moonwalking? ==

Is it just me, or does Senor Cardgage's walking in place look like a tribute to Michael Jackson's moonwalk move?

It's just you.--[[Special:Contributions/206.205.184.2|206.205.184.2]] 14:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Maybe if he had been walking backwards, but the way it was done, it seemed like it was just supposed to be some weird thing. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 14:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::That's what i thought of given recent events, but [[Best_Caper_Ever#Real-World_References|you can't really say they would do something like that]], can you? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Lappy 486 and Paper 2.0: Rest In Peace==
They killed off Lappy the same way they killed of Tandy, I wonder what new computer will replace it. Perhaps Strong Bad and Homestar will answer an email together. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
:Sorry, but stuff like this really belongs on the forum. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 14:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Kelly-usa? ==

This seems unlikely, but did anyone else think "Kelly-Usa" ("oosa") was a reference to Sailor Moon? There's a character named Chibi-Usa with the last part also pronounced "oosa." Being from a Japanese anime, it'd explain the "exotic lady from the Far East" comment. Reasons this is improbable: (1) -usa is not an honorific in Japan and was unique to the one character, making this reference pretty specific; (2) Chibi-Usa was a little girl, not an "exotic lady"; and (3) really, Sailor Moon?

If someone has an alternative explanation of SB's reaction, I'd like to see it.
:Actually, it's probably just an extention of the Homenadé joke made in [[Donut Unto Others]]. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 ==

Do you think this counts as sbemail201? Because if not, sbemail201.html will be the first official sbemail to not be located at "sbeamil{#}.html". {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, it counts (it's on the sbemail menu on the site), and [[flashback|no]], [[senior prom|it]] [[email thunder|won't]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:It counts, and it's not the first. [[senior prom]] was located at "kingpoptoon.html".
::There an echo in here? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] 17:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::speaking of echoes, when he says, "Dear Strong Bad Strong Bad Strong Bad Strong Bad", that echo has happened in at least one e-mail before. is this notable? incidentally, the file is kotpoptoon.html, not kingpoptoon, but w/e {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::and which email was it? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::that would be [[redesign]], although that one sounded natural, as opposed to strong bad just repeating his name quieter --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 05:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Name styles ==

This may need to be listed on the [[HRW:STYLES|manual of style]] or its talk page, but I just wanted to state somewhere that this toon should be referred to as [[hremail3184]] when listed as a Strong Bad Email and [[Hremail 3184]] when listed as a Hremail or when TBC list it as such. I think our usage to this point has been consistent with the guideline, but I figured it should at least be mentioned out loud. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:I was the one who originally moved the page from [[Hremail 3184]] to [[hremail3184]], and I wasn't sure if I should fix the pages listed in "What links here?" for the former article. I suppose that clears it up. [[User:Dalkaen|Dalkaen]] 04:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== scroll buttons ==

there is no scroll buttons song as of this sbemail

Yeah. We know. It's been stated on the page. {{User:BubbleRevolution/sig}} 18:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, I did that! {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== takes, has, means... ==

So, at least three times in this email, the characters use the wrong word in a sentence. For example, SB says "I can't takes it no more", Coach Z says "... now I don't has to" and the Lappy asks, "does that means?" Are these mentionable? I think they are, in the same vein that "Be's careful" and "be's'ing mean..." were in previous emails... but how do we mention them in this email.... a little help? [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 21:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:"This email contains several instances of [[Deliberately Poor English]]." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Identical explosion marks? ==

I dunno if anyone else noticed, but the explosion mark at the end of this toon is the exact same vector shape that was used in the same spot back in 'virus', after Bubs shot the Compy.
:I did notice, but I wasn't sure if it was worth noting. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==32X Reference==

I did a basic edit about the Grilled mushrooms 32x reference, but since I'm new at this can some one perfect it?

==So popular lately==

Gas rings around explosions in pop culture probably started with the Star Wars Special Editions. Worth a Real World Reference?
:Unless you can make that "probably" into a "definitely", I'd say not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, there are certainly earlier examples, notably in Star Treks II and VI, but the idea of adding a shock-wavey Saturn ring to make an explosion 'fancier' definitely starts with the SW SEs. Not that there's anything 'lately' about 1997, but SB probably doesn't have a DVD player yet. :)
:Meh, I think it's a bit [[TTATOT]]. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, SB's reference itself is rather broad ranging. It's not as if he is referencing a single source of the Saturn ring explosions, but actually the trend of having them. As such, one or two notable mentions might be worth making.

==PONK!==
Anyone else notice the name of the beer Bubs was drinking?--[[User:Robotguy4|Robotguy4]] 05:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:It is clearly "PONK!" Point? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::I think [http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm this] is his point. It really seems like it's a ''[[Wikipedia:Team Fortress 2|Team Fortress 2]]'' reference (right down to Bubs mimicking the Scout's constant "BONK" proclamations); I just haven't added it in because the relationship isn't absolutely obvious. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Since you pointed it out, it's pretty obvious, but before you said anything, I wouldn't have even known about it. That, in my book, is plenty good reason to add it.
::::It has nothing to do with how obvious or not obvious it is and everything to do with whether or not it's actually referring to the thing in question. I don't think there's enough of a similarity to connect the two. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I disagree. There seems to be plenty of parallels. And as for whether it's "actually referring to the thing in question," since when are you or any of the users on this Wiki actually inside the mind of TBC that you can know for certain what's a deliberate reference and what's not? We can only make such assessments based on external evidence, such as comparable similarities.
::::::Well, that's why we (used to) have STUFF... but anyway, in all honesty, I'm thinking of just adding it in and seeing where things go from there. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Likely it will get removed immediately. The way to go about it is to use this talk thread, not just put it on the page and see what happens. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::If it's a valid fact, it shouldn't get removed. Anyway, I'm on the fence.. I can see arguments both ways. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 23:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Other Info==

Is anyone planning on putting the writing from Strong Bad's newspaper and business card in the article? [[User:CloneWarrior|CloneWarrior]] 08:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:Bwees-ness card is a good idea, and we would all be grateful for the addition of it. Da NewsPapes, however, (and correct me if I'm wrong) says exactly the same thing it has in its other SB-on-da-toilet scenes, so it needs no transcription. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I checked the article for Candy Product, and the newspaper definitely has different text there. What other instances are there? [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 00:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Speech Impediment ==

Is it me, or does Homestar's Speech Impediment is kinda missing at the beginning of the hremail?--{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 08:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== traffic ==

Do the sounds of traffic during Senor Cardgage's part sound like the traffic in his part during the FBI Warning on strongbad_email.exe Disc Six? -Logged Out Open Source Greg
:It sounds like it might be the same, but that's a note for [[Sound Effects]]. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== No Broken Lappy Menu? ==

I think this is the first sbemail where a computer explodes and there is no special menu for the broken computer, like after the tandy and the compy. I can't remember if those came in right away, or a few days later. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 14:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I believe there's been a gap in between the destruction of the computer and the broken menu. The dates on [[virus]] and [[Broken Compy Menu]] back that up. It's probably done that way to avoid spoiling the surprise of the destruction. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Magnificent Marzipan ==

* The Magnificent Marzipan is a nod to [[Wikipedia:Sensational_Sherri|Sensational Sherri]] and/or [[Wikipedia:Don_Muraco|The Magnificent Muraco]].

What evidence is there to support this claim aside from the alliteration? This seems extremely weak to me. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 20:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. There are tons of alliterative titles like this. Without commentary confirmation, this is...augh! I don't wanna say it! TTATOT. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 00:00, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Already prepared to explode the lappy? ==

I put a fact on the page, but it got removed as unnotable, so I wanted to mention it here. Does no one else find it inconsistent that, although Strong Bad had just now (as of this email) been asked about explosions, he had bought the dooj button (in preparation of exploding the lappy) several weeks ago? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.130|132.183.140.130]] 22:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know about that, but I think a Remark should be made about the button not being plugged into the Lappy until SB points it out. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 23:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well, it seems notable to me. Like all the <s>crap</s> very interesting fun facts that we put in. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 23:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::The way i see it, this email is basically SB telling about how he regularly splo's stuff up, at least as often as he breathes air molecules, so for him to plan to blow up the lappy even before recieving the question is VERY consistant with this email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Ghost Lappy ==

The (demonic) shadow of Female Lappy in the explosion feels like a reference to the ghosts of the Tandy (Bad Graphics) and Compy (skeleton), but I'm not sure how (or if) to put this into an Inside Reference or Remark. Thoughts? {{User:Itama/sig}} 00:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Remarks, that's where I think you should put it. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
::No, you should put it in Inside References. --[[User:Particleman24|Particleman24]] 22:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Usa, Japan ==

<blockquote>* Strong Bad's remark that Kelly-Usa sounds exotic is a reference to the [http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp urban legend] about Japan renaming a town Usa.</blockquote>

This doesn't seem quite right to me. In this case he is interpreting Usa as Kelly's last name, and I don't think it really stands on it's own as a reference specifically to that urban legend. The only thing that stopped me from removing it is the fact that they have referred to the urban legend before, and somewhat recently, but even that relies on either being a close follower of the TBC's work or making a priori connections in order to be considered a reference to the urban legend in my mind. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 12:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I really don't think this enough for a reference, because 1)I don't think they'd reference an urban legend TWICE within about two months, and 2)It's just SB pronouncing an abbreviation as a word. 3)He doesn't even mention Japan. The word "usa" would probably not be enough for a reference alone. Just my opinion. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 13:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I disagree with both of you. It is a fairly commonly known urban legend, and I see no reason to suppose that TBC wouldn't be referencing it. Otherwise, we have to ask the question: why would SB call attention to it unless there was some sort of humorous connection to be made, apart from the mere sound of the word?
::Because the "humorous connection" was the fact that he read Usa as her last name instead of her country. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 07:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== 32x Reference? ==

When strongbad introduces the chili dog, the grilled mushrooms logo says 32x. I think this is a reference to the 32x add-on for the Sega genesis, as well as the fact that its somewhat shaped like a mushroom.

==Paper 2.0 in Cast?==

I started to think that the Paper 2.0 should be mentioned in the cast section, but I'm not sure if that can be counted here. Thoughts?
:Well, we don't know what paper it was, and either way, we don't list the Paper (or any pseudocharacter) in the cast under normal circumstances anyway. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
A separate question, I see many times mentioned that we don't know it was New Paper. Why not? Don't we know that the (old) Paper got burned up by a spark from Homestar's Computer when SB poured the MD on it? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.86|132.183.138.86]] 21:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:However, the old paper did return in Sb_mail 200, and it was previously burned, so it is possible that it could come back from the dead... That, or since it "trancends time and space" it could have time travelled some how...--[[User:Robotguy4|Robotguy4]] 07:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, in order to prevent edit wars from erupting all over the wiki, I wish to get this vital paper business sorted out once and for all.
::First of all, let us state what we already know:
::#[[The Paper]] dies for the first time in [[the paper]].
::#[[New Paper]] is beaten up by The Paper, which briefly comes back from the dead before dying a second time in [[email thunder]].
::#An unnamed paper dies in [[hremail3184]].
::#[[Virtual Paper]] takes over from [[independent]] onwards. Both The Paper and New Paper have now been written out.
::Now, let us assume first that it was The Paper who dies in hremail3184. That would mean it would have died in two successive emails, and three times in total. Do you think that's likely? Would TBC have gone through the effort of killing off The Paper a second time, then secretly bringing it back to life yet again without telling us, just so they could kill it off a third time? And what of New Paper? Why doesn't it come back in independent? Does it die from The Paper's attack in email thunder or does it just go away forever?
::If, however, we assume that it was New Paper that dies in hremail3184, then things get a lot more straightforward. The Paper dies (again) in email thunder and then New Paper dies in the following email. Thus, I'd say the most simple explanation is most likely ([[Wikipedia:Occam's razor|Occam's razor]]) and that it was New Paper that died in hremail3184. I know some of you may dismiss this as speculation but we need to come to some form of general consensus as to what happened at the end of this email. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::The humor in that gag IS that very ambiguity. The point is that you don't know which one it is, and that it could have been and was most likely both. To speculate about it is to defeat the joke. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Isn't that very ambiguity exactly the reason why we need discuss the events at the end of this email in the first place? I don't see why we shouldn't discuss what happened in case we defeat the joke. There are certain articles on this wiki (e.g. [[Envelope Paper]], [[Virtual Paper]]) where it is necessary to state which paper died in this email, which is why I feel this is a big issue. I stick with my argument; although we don't know which paper died here, we can work it out using a process of elimination. There have been two papers which have died. If The Paper clearly died in email thunder, then New Paper must have died in the following email (and if they both died, that still means that New Paper died in this email). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::No, that very ambiguity is the reason that any such discussion is speculation, and UNNEEDED speculation at that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::I would argue that it's not speculation, but inference. (and REASONABLE inference at that). -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.119|132.183.151.119]] 20:06, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== I can't BELIEVE nobody picked this up. ==

Strong Sad's scene with the Pop Tart is a dual reference. It just SCREAMS [[Wikipedia:James Bond]] and [[Wikipedia: Die Hard With a Vengeance]]
:I can see what you mean. If you're able to word it understandably, feel free to add it to references. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.86|132.183.138.86]] 21:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::Why is no one doing it yet? --[[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.29|69.19.14.29]] 02:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::And doesn't the Pop-Tart look more like a Pillsbury Toaster Strudel? --[[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.31|69.19.14.31]] 14:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Possible Popeye reference? ==

Anyone else think that part of Strongbad's opening line "I can't takes it no mores!" is a reference to Popeye, who frequently said "I've all I can stands, and I can't stands no mores!"?
:It's reminiscent, but not concrete enough to be notable, I think. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.162|132.183.138.162]] 17:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Place ya bets! ==

What do you think Strongbad's new computer will be like? What about his new paper?--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.Crazy]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]] 17:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
:I think it will be like something that would be better discussed at the forum. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Can I fight them instead? ==

Is there any signifgence about Andy Kaufman (the half women/half man champion) that would make Strong Sad say this line? Like, he could be saying he thinks Andy is weak. Or is it just a regular whiny quip? I ask this so I can put it in the real-world reference. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 19:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== Rake ==

It should be noted that the rake that Strongbad hits Homestar with isn't the same rake that Gardenboy holds in the sbemail "Yes, Wrestling".

== What we need is an image overhaul. ==

The image we use doesn't seem to sum up the email. I was thinking more along the lines of the blast-wavey saturn-ring explosion, but before the Lappy appears so not to ruin the surprise. The image of that existed at one point. Should we change it and, if so, where is the image now? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 16:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:That image was probably put there to avoid spoilers or something. We should probably change it. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 16:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::[[:File:lappysplosion.PNG|Is this the image you were talking about?]] {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 16:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree that we need to change the summary-image. We advertise it enough as a Strong Bad Email to make the current image a last-ditch effort to hide anything. Yet, the explosion itself is a bit of a spoiler. A picture of the Steak Sandwich would be a bit more fitting. --[[Special:Contributions/76.224.216.122|76.224.216.122]] 17:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The steak sandwhich, too, is a one-off-joke-style image. Besides, the exlposion doesn't show the Lappy, so it is anyone's guess what is happening. It doesn't spoil much, or anything really.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 17:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Disputed fact ==

I added the following to the remarks section:
*The montage of Strong Bad's computers exploding does not feature the explosion from [[Biz Cas Fri 3]].
and it was removed by another user, with the explanation "it's puppet stuff and would look out of place". Now I know I'm a bit biased because I was the one who wrote it, and I'm not on here very often so I'm probably not as familiar as others with how this place works, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to hard-delete the fact. I think even though there's an explanation for it, it's still notable, since as far as I can remember it's the only computer explosion not included in the scene. What do you guys think? -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 21:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

PS sorry if I come across as doing this just because I'm upset because my fact got deleted, That's probably a factor, but I also wanted to make sure this was handled the right way. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 21:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:Strong Bad said that the explosions came from his 'very own computers', the computer used in Biz Cas Fri wasn't a computer he used, just one he owned or checked legit emails on. That could be a reason they didn't put it in. --[[User:SallyShally|SallyShally]] 00:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
::Also, because it's and not from a [[sbemail]], which all the rest are from. And it's puppet Strong Bad, not the real one. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 00:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I find it funny that the puppets, which used an actual computer in their toons, are in contrast to the "real" toons, which use an animated computer... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== I've been here for years ==

:''Homestar's repeating the phrase "Don't call it a comeback", is a reference to the first line of "[[WIkipedia:Mama Said Knock You Out (song)|Mama Said Knock You Out]]" by [[Wikipedia:LL Cool J|LL Cool J]].''
I'm not so sure. First of all, yes, both have the same five words, but the context is so different that I think it could just be a coincidence. In the song, we're told "don't call it a comeback" because he's trying to say that he never left. In the email, Strong Bad ''does'' call it a comeback because there was in fact long hiatus, and he has no problem calling it that. I don't know why Homestar doesn't want Strong Bad to call it a comeback. Maybe he thinks calling anything a comeback is lame. Maybe he doesn't want Strong Bad to make a comeback so that he, Homestar, can continue his own email show with no competition. In any case, without a mention of rap or a nod to the fact that Strong Bad's been here for years, I think it's just literal words, not a reference. If for some reason the joke were rephrased as "I." "Don't say you love grapes." "Love." "Don't say you love grapes." "Grapes!" "*sigh*", it would be exactly the same joke to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. I always understood it as Homestar wanting to continue being the email show guy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

::I think it could be a reference. I immediately thought of the song when I saw the toon and came here to check if the reference was already in place. I don't think because the toon doesn't reference rap or being around for years that doesn't mean those five words can't mention a rap song. For instance, these four recent news articles
::# [http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jul2009/tc20090730_553952.htm Motorola: Don't Call It a Comeback—Yet]
::# [http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/10003346/amgen-q2-dont-call-it-a-comeback-call-it-a-growth-story-in-more-ways-than-d-mab/ Amgen Q2: Don't Call It a Comeback, Call it a Growth Story (In More Ways Than D-Mab)]
::# [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124880772148587627.html Don't Call It a Comeback? CMBS Re-Emerge]
::# [http://www.idahostatesman.com/business/story/837643.html Don't call it a comeback: Used SUVs rebound]
::have those five words in their titles and have nothing to do with rap songs and don't mention being here for years, but I still think they're referencing the song while talking about comebacks in other fields (finance, automobiles, cartoon emails, etc.) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::What also helps sell it as a reference is the rhythm of the words ("Don't ''call'' it a ''come''back") is same in both how Homestar says it and in the song. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::that doesn't mean anything. that's just how "don't call it a comeback" would normally be emphasized if you're trying to say it fast. If you're not trying to say it fast, there would also be an emphasis on "don't", but all the others would be the same. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 22:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey ==

I'm not sure if this is the right place to mention it, but I thought I should...mention it. The arrows that appear in the bottom corners of the screen when you view sbemails with [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Phlip's Greasemonkey script]] seem to omit hremail3184, instead leading to "sbemail201.html", a 404'd page. It's not a big problem, but probably worth fixing. I'd fix it if I could (or had any idea how to). [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 22:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:The latest version of the script already handles this. If you have update-checking turned on in the preferences, it should automatically tell you that there's an update... if it's turned off (or not working for some reason) then try {{p|l={{FULLURL:User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js}} reinstalling it}}. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 04:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Said WHAT like "ptoo"? ==

I hear "Said a-like", not "Said it like". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:Said a-like. definitely. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Dooj! ==

How does it come that the button [[Strong Bad]] presses says "Dooj", and where did [[The Brothers Chaps]] get the word "Dooj" from? --[[Special:Contributions/83.188.255.201|83.188.255.201]] 09:53, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:From the [[Onomatopoeia]] page, it originates from [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]. There is a Fun Fact for it in the Inside References section. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 15:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

==Internet?==

Should the goofs say that, when we see the back of the closed lappy, it is NOT plugged into the Internet, but Strong Bad can still check his email? I'm pretty sure the Lappy doesn't have wireless capability...

[[User:Snails4you|Snails4you]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
: He was able to check emails from Marzipan's kitchen while the Lappy wasn't plugged in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== I'd like a trip to the Oosa ==

I'm not sure on the possibility of it, but do you think USA as Oosa is a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fonejacker Fonejacker] character Mr. Dooved who always pronounces acronyms and abbreviation as they are spelled? In one episode he said that he wanted to fly to the '''Oosa''' talking about the USA. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 02:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt it. It's a pretty common [[snopes:business/genius/usa.asp|concept]]/joke. In fact, I saw something similar just four days ago on 30 Rock. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

== Callback to April Fool 09? ==

Having just watched [[April Fool 09]] for the first time in a while, the use of "cleary" as a misspelled "clearly" in that toon made me wonder if Cardgage's "Beverly Clearly" here could be a subtle callback to that toon. '''''[[user:Kyojikasshu|kyojikasshu]]''''' 06:57, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Tandy 400 contrast ==

If you have Greasemonkey(or a Flash decompiler) and pause right before the Tandy 400 explodes, you can click the contrast buttons. --[[Special:Contributions/83.240.82.223|83.240.82.223]] 18:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

== Because someone didn't believe me ==

Here's a link http://snltranscripts.jt.org/05/lostfound80s6.phtml go ahead and hit ctrl-f "the nude" and see how unusual and distinctive this line was, and how it is almost certainly a quote being referenced.

:It is irrelevant whether this phrase originated there. According to a simple Google search it is now in common use. There is no allusion to SNL in the hremail, so there is absolutely no reason to assume that this is a direct reference. Please refrain from putting this back in as a fact.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:36, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

== Doom Ref ==

Given their love for Doom and multiple references to it, do you think the POV shot of Bubs using a Double Barrel Shotgun shooting the Compy is a reference to the POV of using the Super Shotgun in Doom II? --[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 21:07, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Who Said What Now?

Geonightman — Sat, 22 Jun 2019 07:32:27 GMT

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|'''Note:''' This game used to have a different name and a different shape. The page has been tentatively unprotected for housekeeping edits, but for now still don't mention the other name and shape.
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==Fan music video==
Does anyone know where I can find that fan music video for Strong Sad's line? I always liked it. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 04:20, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

:I know where you can find it. It's called "Strong Bad Rocks Out" by [[The Skate Party]]. You can listen to it (or download it) using a link on my forum. Here's the URL: [http://www.strongfans.com/portal/show_entry.asp?TYP=2&EntryID=169] Enjoy! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:43, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

::Or go here- http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/187036. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 20:59, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==The tab==
the tab has 3-type-D animation, ie, when you pull it, it comes up horizontal, when its at rest its at a diagonal angle. {{User:Csours/sig}} 09:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

== Is That A Cold One? ==

i always thought that the "dink" heard during strong bads say was a cold one bottle cap coming off. and i still think it is. should i put this up in stuff? -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:I think it's pretty hard to say what it is, as there's no visual to match it to. Anything at all is pretty much speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Name Change==
This game is now called "Who said what?" I think it's because of the copyright issue thing. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:Noted and moved. Thanks for the update! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::Is it worth noting somewhere in the article the reason for the name change? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Doubtful. That's not really part of the encyclopedic significance. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's an important part of the game's history. But we should wait how everything turns out before we add it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. When did it change? Boy, this is getting to be an interesting week. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 22:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::Um, why won't we note the name change? If we aren't sure of the reason why the name was changed, we don't have to jump to conclusions, we could just say something like ''"This game's title was '(crud, I forgot the original title!)' when it was first released. It was changed to 'Who Said What Now?' in early 2007."'' And moreover, why is the page protected now? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::It's highly likely Mattel, who made the toy the old game made fun of, tried to sue them. That's why the page is locked with no mention of the original name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::but why are -we- legally liable for talking about it, and why would THEY be liable for what WE say when there's no affiliation? Companies don't have this kind of control over regular people.

==Picture==
Now that the game has been changed, is it permissible to put a picture of the new game up? {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 22:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:I should think so, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

== Locked? ==

Somehow I ended up logged out, and when I noticed this page on RecentChanges, I noticed it was locked. The only explanation given is that it was "at the request of [[Karen Wagner]]"... I suppose, looking at the above comments, I might have a guess why it was locked (copyright issues?), but that said, how accurate is my guess? And does it still need to be locked? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:Also, the image was removed per KW (according to the history) and now has been restored. a) are we allowed to do this and b) can someone please explain what's going on? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::Well, it's a new image. Different image. But I should probably check first... *sweatdrop* I've commented it out for now, until I get an okay... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Is it still appropriate for this page to be locked?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:It probably doesn't need to be locked for too much longer, but we're trying to tread through this issue carefully, so hold on a little longer... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Is there a particular reason long-time members are locked as well? I've seen quite a few Wikipedia pages, such as [[Wikipedia:High School Musical]], which were locked only to nonmembers and newbies. If we can lock it for those people only I have an idea for a picture to use in the template. (I know this should go in its own talk page but I didn't know what to call the template) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:We don't need a semi-protected template, thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

i need to add a "view the old version" link (to spin and say) [[User:slipknot6477]]
:No, we're not going to do that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
why not?
:For reasons that are already listed on this page in various threads. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

::In other words, [[looking old|legal reasons]] not to be discussed at the current time. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Since this is locked could someone with the privileges replace the External Links section with this standardized code?
<pre>*[[HR:whosaidwhat.html|play the game]]
*[[HR:whosaidwhat.swf|play game (Flash file)]]</pre>
Please and Thanks. --[[Special:Contributions/71.157.173.166|71.157.173.166]] 22:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Done and done. You're welcome. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

== Request for article link change ==

The line ''The game is a parody of Mattel's "See 'n Say."'' should, I think, instead of linking to Mattel's wiki entry, should more appropriately link to the [[Wikipedia:See 'n Say|See 'n Say]] page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks! Also, I don't mean to be knit picker, but I was hoping that the Mattel link would go away or look a bit better, since having the word be half link/half text doesn't look as pleasing as if it looked like: [[Wikipedia:Mattel|Mattel's]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::That is odd. Isn't the appended bit normally swallowed into the link, or is that only for inside links? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Mine swallows both internal and external links, except any with an "'s". Then it just goes '''Blue Words Here'''<nowiki>'s</nowiki>. Dunno why. *shrugs* --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::::My guess is that extra characters are automatically apparended to the link when they are only letters. My guess is that the apostrophe breaks that "autolink". I personally don't like that feature and opt to link it myself. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::But don't. The link is to the noun, not the possessive, and shouldn't be linked as though it were. Also, we should avoid piped links when possible. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::True. The link is a noun and not the possessive, but it just looks soooo much prettier! Lol. And we rename things all the time! Oh is that what you mean by avoiding piped links when possible? But I like piped links! They're my frieeend! ... *awkward silence* Right. Anyway, I just think form over function might be a nice idea in this very... isolated... case. Yeah. Isolated. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Add some links ==

Would it be appropiate to add links to the original version? I couldn't add them myself because the edit buttons appear to be hidden.
:I don't think we should. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::If anything, we should put it on [[Secret Pages]], but only after this page and the other pages involving the toy are unprotected, and the copyright issue is resolved {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 00:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I think we should pretend "Sp*n 'N S*y" never existed and it has always been Who Said What?. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I concur. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::NO, DON'T! It would be like saying the Mattel product never existed. You wouldn't want that, would you?
Well, there are places where the forbidden name is used, such as the [[Third Games Menu]] and [[Why Come Only One Girl?]]. Also the old [[Handheld Games Menu]] mirrors. I say that we don't do anything more until we get the Chapmans' ok. - {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 00:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:That is likely for the best. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
How can [[Secret Pages]] and [[Astro-Lite 2600]] include links to Lite Brite if it is a registered trademark of Hasbro? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:30, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

::That issue hasn't yet surfaced as a problem (and hopefully never will). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible for us to pretend this game was always this state without creating the impression Kidelectrix predates Videlectrix? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, you're doing a damn good job of erasing The Game That Apparently Must Not Be Named from history, let me say. I came across this page and thought, "Ah, it's been changed", but then found no reference to [that game]. I know how obsessive you fanboys are at documenting every little thing about Homestar Runner, so I frantically searched for any reference at all to [that game] on the wiki, but found none, and thought to myself, "Have I gone mad? Did I just imagine [that game]? Why on earth isn't there a reference to it?" Nothing made sense until I found this talk page, from which the situation can be inferred.

Pandering to the dictates of the Chaps aside, I don't see why there shouldn't be a reference to it on this site. It isn't affiliated to homestarrunner.com, so there can't be any ramifications, can there? Well, there's my bit. Thanks for causing so much confusion. --[[User:84.67.250.92|84.67.250.92]] 22:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, no problem. Unfortunately, it's not going to change anytime soon, at least not until the dust finally settles. You may think we're pandering fanboys—and that's fine, you can think that if you want—but really we're being respectful of them and their request. Also, I think it shows poor discretion if one's bottom line in making decisions is "Meh, what's the worst that can happen?". In cases like that, it's almost always better not to find out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Wait, why is this an issue? Is it because of the copyright on the original errm... thing by mattel? I got lost. Suddenly everyone's acting like we need to clean up after a murder. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:::The nature of the issue is such that we won't be discussing it at present; however, in due time we will explain the full reasoning behind everything. I know it's frustrating, but we are asking for your patience for a while longer. Thanks for your cooperation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I understand. When a legal issue comes up like this, the best thing to do is exactly what you and all the other sysops and admins are doing. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::If I may chip in my thoughts on this, to avoid confusion (i.e. the aformentioned "Kidelectrix predates Videlectrix!?!" thing), whenever it is deemed we can edit this again, we could simply say "This game is an edited version of an older game, with Homsar's quote and the Kidelectrix name added" or something--we can be ambiguous and not say anything about the older game's content, just say that this one is a new version of an older game. [[User:Evan|Evan]] 00:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::Here's my two cents: Evan's plan is a good one for now, but in the future, should there ever be a resolution, we can give a full explanation as to what happened to the (BLEEEEEEEEP). --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 04:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Are you referring to something like, "Homsar's quote and the Kidelectrix label were added later," because that sounds good to me. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe we could also treat the Kidelectrix label the way we treat the changes of the secret phrases from [[Homestar Talker]] and the music from [[Dancin' Bubs]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== About a Fun Fact ==

I don't like the word "parody". Please change the text "This game is a '''parody''' of Mattel's See 'n' Say" to something else. Thank you. Remember: YOU made me hate this word. {{unsigned|76.184.188.124|17:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)}}
:Look for a second at the [[ahd:61/94/P0079400.html|definition]] of the word, the relevant part of which I will highlight here: "An artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of another work for comic effect." That is ''exactly'' what this game is. But never mind that. TBC, via their representative, ''specifically'' asked us to use that word. It stays. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

== They're s'posed to what? ==

Where can I find out more about the copyright issue? Did Mattel try to sue them or something? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't know. All we know is [[Talk:Who Said What Now?#Add some links|this was always "Who Said What"]], and the rest doesn't need to be elaborated on. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::I don't know if we can pull that off since the original name is still used in [[Secret Pages]] and [[Old Flash Stuff]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homsar==
Hey, Homsar has a line but it's not translated to text!

'''HOMSAR:'''AaAaAh, My cheese is 50 cent!

-Ben from the fanstuff wiki

:<s>You can just put it on the page you know :)</s> This must be an addition to the original because I've noticed that all of the timings for the subtitles are out of sync now.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 23:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::Nevermind, I didn't realize the page was locked from editing.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 23:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::An administrator will need to add this.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

why is it quieter? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's quieter. It sounds different because it was added later. By the time TBC added his line, what they recorded had a better sound quality than the other buttons. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Just something I'd thought I'd say, the cowbell at the end of Strong Bad's line is muted.

== Stuff To Add ==

*The [[Handheld Games Menu]] still calls this game Who Said What?
*Include a link in Marzipan's quote to [[The Only Girl]]. Thank you for your time. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 05:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

:The first one would fit better on [[Handheld Games Menu]] than on this page, I think. As for the second one, we usually don't link characters' speech in transcripts. I tried figuring out a different way to work it in, but nothing came to me. Any suggestions? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say add is as a fun fact:
::*Marzipan's line refers to the fact that she is considered [[The Only Girl|the only female lead]].
::Feel free to reword to make it sound better. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that sounds prooty grood — I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Who_Said_What_Now%3F&diff=451063&oldid=449987 added it}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Another thing to mention is that Homestar doesn't have a mouth on his picture. I'm still cheesed off that this page is protected in the first place (I'm not going to ask why). Can we just ban it from annonies? Or is it that bad? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Please see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AWho_Said_What_Now%3F&diff=461958&oldid=461925]. Sorry about this, and thanks for understanding.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::Should headers for Remarks, Inside References, Real-World References, and Fast Forward be added? [[Everything Else, Volume 2]] has less Fun Facts but still uses headers. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Here's some facts I couldn't find on the page:
*"Each day we die a little more" will be repeated in [[Strong Sad's Lament]] and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*"I'm [[the only girl]]" will be referenced in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] and [[Why Come Only One Girl?]] (If we add this Stux's fact might become unneccesary) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:If you guys don't find those facts notable or headers necessary at least tell me why. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, I think your suggestions were merely overlooked, not purposefully ignored. I thought they were good ideas, and I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Who_Said_What_Now%3F&diff=496680&oldid=462011 added them}}. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Noticed something. The page says: Coach Z's "more than 2 problems" are later referenced on Main Page 11. Let's get "prablems" misspelled the way it should be (as in the transcript), shall we? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Like I've said below a while ago, should we mention that this is the only old game to link to the old games menu instead of the current one? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Fun Fact ==

I noticed that the characters on the buttons resemble the character designs from the back page of the FAQ. Just puttin' this up here, in case you want to STUFF it. [[User:76.184.199.4|76.184.199.4]] 02:07, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:What part of the FAQ? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

::Oh, you mean the static characters on the last page — they're very close, but I can find subtle differences in all of them except Pom Pom... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== For kids? ==

Anyone else notice that Homsar's picture in this resembles the one used in [[For Kids]] in [[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]'s theme song? -[[User:Free Bagels|Free Bagels]] 01:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

== Fact/Goof ==

Is it a fact or a goof that the narrator refers to every character with a "the" infront of their name except for The Cheat?
It should be "the The Cheat says..." -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 19:35, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:you forgot the KOT and the poopsmith, both of whom have [[integral article]]s. not a goof or a relevant fact. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::The King and Poopsmith are not ''always'' integral like The Cheat is, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::still, they are mostly, as evidenced by their page names [[The King of Town|'''The''' King of Town]] and [[The Poopsmith|'''The''' Poopsmith]]. Ergo, still not relevant. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::If this toon were created today, then it might be different, but it was from way back when they hadn't firmed up the whole integral article thing. As such, it's not really that notable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

==Homsar's line==

Would it, erm, hurt if we could at least say "Assumably, Homsar's line was recorded later than the rest, hence the difference in sound quality" or something? It looks kind of silly as it is. D: [[User:Evan|Evan]] 23:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's fine as it is. It's not silly at all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I realize and understand the circumstances of the situation, but I do think the article needs to mention that Homsar and "Kidelectrix" are later additions to the game. I don't think doing so would be a big deal. -- [[User:139.78.10.40|139.78.10.40]] 23:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== The old game ==

Wow, since when was this changed? I think it used to be a Spin 'n Say, because that redirects here. Where you pulled a string and the quotes cycled through 11 different guys. [[User:75.46.60.77|75.46.60.77]] 17:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:The name changed a little over four months ago, and then the game itself was updated about two months ago, because of the work of outside forces. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. M*ttel got [[The Brothers Chaps]] to change it because they felt their copyrights were being skimped. (M*ttel manufactures Sp*n 'n S*y, ya know.) [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 21:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:None of that is a secret; we are just choosing not to discuss the details at present. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

um... who said what nows article is crazy and we need to get the spin and say/who said what now thing finished. most of its discussion is with secret pages. we got to get this settled in a pole home. [[User|slipknot6477|slipknot6477]]
:We ''have'' finished the page and the only problems are people who continue to bring it up. I'm not sure what you mean by "pole home", but there is no need to continue discussion about the previous happenings of Who Said What Now?. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 15:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think all the hush hush secrecy is a little bit confusing and unnecessary. If a representative of TBC asked us to not mention the old version of this game, can't we at least say '''that''' much on the main article? Otherwise it's confusing and makes people ask about it on here, which we're appearantly trying to avoid. Just put: "Due to a request by Karen Wagner (or whoever it was), details about the original version of Who Said What Now? have been intentionally omitted."--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 03:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== Old Games ==

Is it notable that ''this'' game's back button links to the [[HR:oldgames.html|old games]] menu unlike the other old games, which link to the [[HR:games.html|new games]] menu? And if so, could some sysop add it? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

== Current Status ==

Did anyone try emailing Karen Wagner to see if it is safe to unlock this page and [[Why Come Only One Girl]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:27, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. I received a response telling us that she would talk it over with the Chaps and get back to us. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::Any news yet? Did you e-mail again? - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 06:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Circumstances outside our control? ==
Can you explain that? I can't understand how anything is outside our control, since we aren't affiliated with the site or its creators, nor with Mattel. We can do as we please.
:Sure, we can do as we please. And it pleases us to support the creators of our favourite online cartoon. A no-brainer, if you will. Because we can, not because it's outside our control. The ''circumstances'' are outside our control.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== In My Experience ==

A lot of users seem very confused by the changes in this toon and their effect on the wiki. Let me see if I can help. '''PLEASE NOTE:''' I am not an administrator of this site, and I am not informed on any private communications from Harmless Junk. I'm just relating my personal experience, and you can draw whatever connections you think are appropriate. It's probably unproductive to try to find out exactly how solid those connections are.

I used to work for a software company that published large clip art collections. The collections were so large, and the sources so varied (and many overseas) that it was inevitable that now and then something would creep in that infringed on somebody else's rights. A little education: This was almost always a ''trademark'' infringement, not a ''copyright'' infringement. They are two very different things which you can research on your own time. Possibly relevant here is that trademarks are much more nebulous, and determining trademark infringement can often be very subjective and depend on what a judge had for breakfast.

When this happened, and it bothered the owner of a trademark, we would usually get a "cease and desist" letter asking nicely if we could either remove or alter the offending images. Part of my job was keeping track of who had contacted us, the details of what they thought infringed, and what images probably bothered them. That second part could be very, ''very'' nitpicky, such as Carnival Cruises claiming that putting little "wings" on the sides of a ship's smokestack infringed on their marks, or Dairy Queen claiming that a soft serve cone became a trademark Dairy Queen cone the moment the ice cream had a curl at the top. (And don't get me started on the Red Cross.)

Always, to my knowledge, these issues were resolved after one or two letters from the owner and some annoying editing work on our part. Never litigation. However, the threat was always there. If we missed a few generic cars that looked a little too much like Beetles in our many thousands of car images, and Volkswagen felt like being jerks about it, they could easily have dragged us into court and gotten a nice chunk of damages out of our revenue.

If a proceeding like that took place, the plaintiffs would be able to subpoena any of our internal documents and records that they could convince a judge were at all pertinent to the suit. My emails to my supervisor, for example. Of course, if there were documents ''outside'' our company that were also pertinent, they could subpoena those too. Like if some fan website had user posts pointing out that "Car 236 looks just like a '63 Beetle convertible!" Due to the very nature of trademarks, that's actually a particularly damning piece of evidence, because it proves that at least one member of the consuming public associated the non-Volkswagen-created image with Volkswagen. Unlike copyrights, perception is often more important than intent in determining trademark infringement, which is what makes it so scary. Get enough of that to indicate consensus, and you've basically lost any possibility of arguing that there's no infringement.

For these reasons, the company lawyer was a paranoid ogre about what we could and could not say in writing about these issues. If I had to email someone to discuss a specific complaint or possible infringement, I had to use codewords. ("Do you think the fenders on that, um, banana are too round?") When you're a defendant, less paper trail is always better. No matter how innocent you may think it is. You don't want the plaintiff to have ''anything'' they can hold up and say, "Here's the proof they knew there was a specific problem, and yet here it still is in their next release."

Hope that helps anyone understand anything. I can tell you I found it confusing and irritating until I got used to it myself.

--[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::With all that in mind, it really makes me wonder why HRWiki insists on hosting the old round-fendered banana menu which actually has the trademarked phrase spelled out right in it. Without leaving any paper trail, I'll just say: I'm looking right at the offending text in a Flash file hosted on hrwiki.org right now. Someone took the trouble to prevent that menu from continuing to link to the copy of the offending Handheld Game which inexplicably still lives on www.homestarrunner.com, but, that wasa half-measure at best. Naturally, hrwiki has no control over what www.homestarrunner.com still has "hidden" on their webhost. But hrwiki.org is making an awful lot of noise that sounds like "We can NOT say any of that!" while serving the exact thing that everybody says can't be said. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 00:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The old name is not a secret. It's Spin 'n Say. It's mentioned several times on this page. The old Flash file reflects the fact that the game used to have a different name. Big deal. We don't point to the old file of the game, nor do we give instructions on how to find it; thus, it's concealed from the general public ''enough'' not to worry about, even if technically it can be found if one knows exactly where to look. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Right. Another point to keep in mind about trademarks is that the watchdogs in the big corporate legal departments bark ''a lot'', but actual bites are not as common. The barking is due to another little quirk of trademark law, which is that you can actually lose the exclusive right to your trademark—even a registered one—by not using it or not defending it against infringement. A trademark isn't the sort of thing you either have or you don't. It can be strong or weak, and have varying amounts of influence beyond its typical market, depending mostly upon how well-recognized and well-associated it is. Ignoring misuses of your trademark can lead to it being "watered down". Any marketing exec will tell you that strong brand recognition is one of the most important factors in commercial success, so this is why owners of brand names that are under constant threat of being "genericized", like Kleenex and Band-Aid, go so far as to take out ads in writers' trade magazines, educating the readers that these are in fact registered trademarks and not words to be thrown around willy-nilly, thank you very much.

::::So C & D letters are a dime a dozen. You'd be a fool to ignore one, but unless your infringement is truly egregious, your chances of being sued are slim for a variety of reasons. Lawsuits are outrageously expensive and very unpredictable; most owners won't take that gamble unless there's a lot at stake. A lot more than a silly little web toon, for example. Another reason is that suits against offenders who aren't visibly turning a profit off the infringement have a tendency to backfire in a publicity sense. A good example is the [[Wikipedia:Emblems of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement#Johnson & Johnson's lawsuit against the American Red Cross about the emblem|recent suit]] that Johnson & Johnson filed against the American Red Cross over the use of their logo on first aid kits. Of course it will be hard for J & J not to look like a bad guy in that, but ironically, as I hinted above, the Red Cross was one of the firms that had sent my company letters. (And by far the biggest pain in the twees to comply with. Those freakin' crosses were ''everywhere''!) I hear their C & D factory is rather busy in general.

::::So to actually attempt to relate this to the matter at hand, I would ''guess'' that Mattel has no intention of taking Harmless Junk to court, and no particular interest in actually obliterating the original game. They get to satisfy the motions they have to go through, and do it quietly, if it's just removed from general public view and replaced with a new version with minimal fuss.
::::--[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:31, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::Another thing to note about why this might be any kind of deal re: trademarks: the reason any company will do this over a trademark is because unlike copyrights, a trademark is only as good as the effort you put into defending it. If for some reason, someone else started using that trademarked name and Mattel had taken them to court, they could point to the game here and say "Look, these guys didn't care enough about their trademark to enforce it here, so they have given up rights to claim it," and there's a chance a judge would agree. So, simply to cover ''their'' butts as well, Mattel's gotta take care of their own business on this. It's the reason that Kleenex and Xerox make such a fuss about their names becoming genericized, because if they let such things go without challenge they could lose the ability to defend their trademarks against someone making a more serious effort to infringe on their trademark.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 06:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Didn't even realized you'd already covered that. That will teach me to skim talk pages.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 06:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Here's two counterargument to all of this: Spin n' Say was a ''parody.'' Last I checked, ''parodies'' have ALWAYS been defended as fair use. Secondly, if I recall, there was an episode of Family Guy which had a parody of the same toy. If they didn't get sued, well, then I'm skeptical about what the intent truly is. You see, Family Guy is produced by a Hollywood company which is much more powerful and has very good (in skill, not as in good guys) lawyers and a large staff, whereas H*R is produced by all of five people and is produced independently, and thus Harmless Junk probably doesn't have very good lawyers. And if the TBC wanted to avoid a trademark suit, they could state "we're not affiliated with Mattel" or something like that so as to not confuse people. If you weren't allowed to talk about something in your creative works that's already been copyrighted or trademarked, it would violate free speech, which in my opinion is a much more important right than copyright. The only lesson we can learn from all this is that the world is run by people with a lot of money and very few morals. --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 02:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Notice==
There should be a notice on this page stating that it is protected. [[User:124.181.45.149|124.181.45.149]] 07:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
:First of all, tagging pages for deletion to get people's attention is very bad form, and is frankly obnoxious. secondly, there are many pages on the wiki that are protected, i don't see any reason to have a notice for this one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 08:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== The Luau ==

Seems that an older version of WSWN is accessible from the tofu-Homestar "main page" at the end of The Luau, in the updates corner. Oversight on TBC's part? [[User:Gus|Gus]] 20:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:We know. Probably. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Ok, I know that whatever this originally was could land TBC in a lawsuit, I understand that part. What I don't understand is, how does the wiki mentioning it compromise the safety of the main site? Obviously, I'm not well-rehearsed in the areas of copyright and trademark law, but I'd still like to know. [[User:DonZabu|DonZabu]] 06:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

:This game used to have a different name and a different shape. We're aware of that. Due to circumstances outside our control, we're not going into further detail at this time. Until we are able to discuss it further, please do not ask about it or worry about it too much. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

::How very Orwellian :)

== I had one of these ==

I didn't have a homestar runner one! But a farm animal one like "the cow says: mooo." did anyone else have one? --[[User:Stong L. Bod|Stong L. Bod]] 17:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:I'm afraid this is a forum discussion, Mr. Bod. --[[Special:Contributions/68.94.94.234|68.94.94.234]] 17:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== Add date please ==

Please add the date of "June 27, 2001, or earlier" to the page, if you have permissions. --[[User:TimMierz|TimMierz]] 20:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, someone please add it. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 17:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::I believe that the date is deliberately missing from the article due to circumstances outside the wiki's control. If these circumstances are ever sorted out, we may be able to add it to the article. Don't hold your breath, though. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Dad being in the legal process, I know it can take quite a while. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 17:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not a reference ==
It says on the page that Homsar's "50 Cent" quote was previously mentioned on the [[Email]] contact page. But on the Email contact page, it said "Fitty Cent". {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 21:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:"Fitty Cent" is a common way of pronouncing artist 50 Cent's name. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Back button ==

Could someone mention on this article that this is the only old game to have a Back button linking to the [[Handheld Games Menu]] instead of the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]]? {{User:Shine Sprite/sig}} 00:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

== It's been 2 years!!! ==

It's been 4 years since Karen Wagner asked the admins to protect this page and all other pages mentioning the toy. I think the copyright issues between TBC and ''[Name removed by copyright order]'' have been resolved. This and all the other pages mentioning the toy need to be unlocked. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 03:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:Just because you ''think'' it's been resolved doesn't make it true.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:...And? Even if they were, there is no new info to put in those article. Why would anyone want to edit them? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 08:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I get that we don't know whether it has been resolved or not. It would cause all types of edit wars that only a well experienced admin has seen. But WHY are we so compact that we shouldn't note the change on the article's page. A major rewrite and name change certainly are notable. Why don't we just say something along the lines of "Due to legal issues, the game was remade about 2007. It used to be named Spin 'n Say, and was in the shape of one". Really, there is no harm in mentioning the change, right? We can just leave it at that. We don't need to unlock it, just acknowledge the change. Unless there is a reason. Is there?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 23:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

== Look, I know we can't speak of the Forbidden version, but... ==

...could we put in Real World References something like:

"The way the quotes are phrased is akin to Mattel's 'See 'n' Say' toy."

You know, something to insinuate the original game without actually linking to it. *wink wink, nudge nudge*

Because I think there should be at least some sign that it's related to the Speak 'n' Say, even if we can't say what it is directly. Not everyone reads the Discussions.
:Since not everyone reads the discussions, that's why the orange notice box was put into place at the top of the page. Until an admin removes that notice, there is still [http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=embargo an embargo] (see first verb definition) on everything about the original version. Trying to skimp around that embargo won't be doing TBC and/or the admins any favors. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 13:58, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

== Request for an Admin ==

Could a sysop please change the Wikipedia link to [[Texas Instruments]] to an internal link? {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 14:53, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
: Done. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
:: Thanks. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 18:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

== 7 Years ==

Why are questions on the talk page about this being deleted?

The talk page is where we are supposed to "Talk" about things.

Anyway, it's been seven years, this is getting ridiculous.

The warning template says "at a later date", you can't lock this page forever. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}}

:#Due to '''circumstances outside our control'''.
:#To talk about what to do with the page's content. This topic has long since been decided.
:#And unless something changes, it'll be seven more years, and seven more after that.
:#No it doesn't, it says "Until we are able to discuss it further", nothing about a later date. And yes, the page is, in fact, locked indefinitely. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

::Yeah, that wasn't exactly verbatim, that was just what I remembered from it.

::I'm not trying to be challenging, really, I will stop talking about it, the only reason it bothers me is 1. because we aren't allowed to talk about why we aren't allowed to talk about the original game, and 2. It is obviously Fair Use.

I apologize. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}}
:::It may be fair use as a parody, but think about the costs TBC (and this wiki's staff) would suffer if they all had to fight this in court to prove this is a lawful parody/fair use. Also consider the DMCA and how cutthroat some corporations can be. Even if TBC and the wiki could win, the one that DMCA/embargo'd the parody could stall for time and bankrupt TBC and this wiki just on legal costs alone and plus the H*R site and wiki could be at risk to be legally taken down in their entirety. TBC and this wiki lose either way so they complied with the DMCA/embargo orders. Also consider TBC's work with Hollywood these days. Their career could have ended if they had a DMCA court-case dragging on them before the last baby hiatus (before the Hollywood hiatus kicked in). — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

== Missing Info ==
Can someone please add "articles with missing info" to this? It's missing the release date of the original game. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 05:24, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

== Transcript Grammar ==
Could somebody please correct Strong Sad's line? The period is supposed to go inside the quotation marks, not outside.—[[User:Bde1982|Bde1982]] 23:29, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
: Aight. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:20, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks.—[[User:Bde1982|Bde1982]] 17:55, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

== Update navbar ==

The forward nav should go to [[Astro-Lite 2600]] to be consistent with the other old games pages which are in alphabetical order, as RickTommy recently pointed out. If someone with access to this page could fix that, it would be most appreciated. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:22, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:45, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

== Fact ==

Could someone add in goofs or remarks that Strong Mad's singlet is missing it's M? --[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 07:32, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk:butt IQ

Geonightman — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:44:35 GMT

Geonightman: /**/Release Date

==The Reunion Show==
''The punk rock band The Reunion Show (http://www.music-city.org/discography.php?artist=The+Reunion+Show) named one of their songs for their 2002 debut album "Kill Your Television" from this email. The name of the 9th song on the album is "On a Scale from One to Awesome (You're Pretty Great)".'' 
Should that maybe be in Sightings rather than this Fun Facts section? -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 01:53, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Could this e-mail really be inspired by the song on the album? Had the album even come out at this point?
:No, no, the song was inspired by the email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Math thingy ==

Now that there is a formula display here, where in article can we show the Transitive Butt Property?
<math>Stupidity_{(butt)}\ge Stupidity_{(head)}</math>
I'm thinking Remarks, but not sure. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Release Date ==

So I was looking at my 2011 SBEMAIL of the MONTH CALENDER.
And on the unmarked month of september, I noticed "butt IQ" fell under September 7th... which is interesting because "homsar" came out on the 19th, which is obviously after. Assuming this is one of the many misprints, what if it was released between the 19th and 27th (as we know), but on the same day as the 7th. Wednesday, Sept. 21st, 2001. Or we have them backwards mayhaps? "butt IQ" came out on the 7th and "homsar" came out on the 19th maybe? [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 17:44, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 17.2

Geonightman — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 17:14:48 GMT

Geonightman: /* Add this? */

== Impatience ==
Can you complete the transcript? --[[Special:Contributions/76.177.9.12|76.177.9.12]] 15:26, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

== References ==
Will we ever add the fact that they referenced the most famous things during the 90s, early 2000s, and the late 2000s? {{unsigned|67.243.54.46|20:00, 1 April 2016}}
::We're getting to it! - '''XY''' [[Special:Contributions/71.122.225.64|71.122.225.64]] 4:59 PM EST, April 1st, 2016

== Humidibot's Girlfriend ==

Humidibot has a bit of a lisp, so it's not that easy to tell exactly what he said (and same goes for his girlfriend). Do you hear Humidi''bess'' or Humidi''beth''? Personally I thought it was Humidibeth the whole time. Before I change the name or add a footnote, let's gauge the room. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 03:42, 2 April 2016 (UTC) because that's what a humidifier does.
:I decided to listen to it again and it definitivinitiley sounds more like Humidi''beth'' than Humidi''bess''. I vote for Humidibeth. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 03:52, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
::Beth for certain. I bet she looks like a dude, too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:17, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

== Seven-Inch Stretch? ==

Could the Sloshy and Larry Palaroncini messages about a split seven-inch be a reference to The King of Town and The Cheat cutting demos on the machine in 13.2? [[Special:Contributions/108.17.131.71|108.17.131.71]] 06:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Split seven-inches have been referenced in H*R numerous times before. That's sort of a stretch. {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 14:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

== How you guys found it? ==

Hey, something's been bugging me since yesterday morning. How did you guys ''find'' Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 17.2? I got up at 6:00 AM on April 1st and looked at the official site, and as far as I could see, the new toon wasn't linked to anywhere. The only way I could access it was to come to this wiki. I only just saw that it was added to the New Stuff menu today. [[the chair|Like ''right'' just now!]] So, [[Coach Z's 110%|how you diddat?]] {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 14:25, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:Sounds like a typical problem with Flash ca<s>sh</s>che. I think clearing your browser cache is a good idea, though I'm not particularly an expert. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 14:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
::[[isp|I cannot help myself clear my browser cache.]] I don't really even know what that means. Anyway, it appears on the New Stuff menu now. So it was all the time working for you guys? Huh. Let me ask: for you, are the main pages updated? For me, it still says "LAST UPDATED 11-10-15". I thought The Brothers Chaps just haven't updated the date yet, but maybe not...? {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 14:43, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:::It says last updated 04-01-16 for me on the main menu.
:::Which brings me to one question, monstrosity.
:::[[animal|Do you know the times?]] - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 14:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

== Add this? ==

Ya'll thing I should add this to like, remarks of somethin?

Marzipan receives 67 messages in this MAM
*Homestar Runner - 9
*Strong Sad - 9
*Strong Bad - 7
*Bubs - 5
*Coach Z - 4
*Homsar - 2
*Kevin - 2
*The King of Town - 2
*The Poopsmith - 1
*Mitch - 1
*Clark - 1
*Puppet Homestar - 1
*Litigation Jackson - 1
*Larry Palaronchini - 1
*Tucker Donaldson - 1
*Humidbot - 1
*Strong Mad - 1
*F-Sack - 1
*The Cheat - 1
*Senor Cardgage - 1
*The Announcer - 1
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 17:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
*Marshie - 1
*Horrible Painting - 1
*Balding Man - 1
*Stinkoman - 1
*Pan-Pan - 1
*1-Up - 1
*Peacey P - 1
*Blue Lazer Commander - 1
*Crack Stuntman - 1
*The Homestar Runner - 1
*Old-Timey Strong Bad - 1
*Sickly Sam - 1
*TGS Member - 1
*One of the 4 Gregs - 1

-Geonightman

Isn't this type of thing supposed to be on some other page relating to Marzipan's Answering Machine? - 50.149.242.19
:The "67 different callers" part might be worth adding somewhere, but the stats breakdown is probably better done on the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|main answering machine page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 17:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 17.2

Geonightman — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 17:08:09 GMT

Geonightman: /**/Add this?

== Impatience ==
Can you complete the transcript? --[[Special:Contributions/76.177.9.12|76.177.9.12]] 15:26, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

== References ==
Will we ever add the fact that they referenced the most famous things during the 90s, early 2000s, and the late 2000s? {{unsigned|67.243.54.46|20:00, 1 April 2016}}
::We're getting to it! - '''XY''' [[Special:Contributions/71.122.225.64|71.122.225.64]] 4:59 PM EST, April 1st, 2016

== Humidibot's Girlfriend ==

Humidibot has a bit of a lisp, so it's not that easy to tell exactly what he said (and same goes for his girlfriend). Do you hear Humidi''bess'' or Humidi''beth''? Personally I thought it was Humidibeth the whole time. Before I change the name or add a footnote, let's gauge the room. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 03:42, 2 April 2016 (UTC) because that's what a humidifier does.
:I decided to listen to it again and it definitivinitiley sounds more like Humidi''beth'' than Humidi''bess''. I vote for Humidibeth. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 03:52, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
::Beth for certain. I bet she looks like a dude, too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:17, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

== Seven-Inch Stretch? ==

Could the Sloshy and Larry Palaroncini messages about a split seven-inch be a reference to The King of Town and The Cheat cutting demos on the machine in 13.2? [[Special:Contributions/108.17.131.71|108.17.131.71]] 06:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Split seven-inches have been referenced in H*R numerous times before. That's sort of a stretch. {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 14:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

== How you guys found it? ==

Hey, something's been bugging me since yesterday morning. How did you guys ''find'' Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 17.2? I got up at 6:00 AM on April 1st and looked at the official site, and as far as I could see, the new toon wasn't linked to anywhere. The only way I could access it was to come to this wiki. I only just saw that it was added to the New Stuff menu today. [[the chair|Like ''right'' just now!]] So, [[Coach Z's 110%|how you diddat?]] {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 14:25, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:Sounds like a typical problem with Flash ca<s>sh</s>che. I think clearing your browser cache is a good idea, though I'm not particularly an expert. - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 14:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
::[[isp|I cannot help myself clear my browser cache.]] I don't really even know what that means. Anyway, it appears on the New Stuff menu now. So it was all the time working for you guys? Huh. Let me ask: for you, are the main pages updated? For me, it still says "LAST UPDATED 11-10-15". I thought The Brothers Chaps just haven't updated the date yet, but maybe not...? {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 14:43, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:::It says last updated 04-01-16 for me on the main menu.
:::Which brings me to one question, monstrosity.
:::[[animal|Do you know the times?]] - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 14:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

== Add this? ==

Ya'll thing I should add this to like, remarks of somethin?

Marzipan receives 67 messages in this MAM
*Homestar Runner - 9
*Strong Sad - 9
*Strong Bad - 7
*Bubs - 5
*Coach Z - 4
*Homsar - 2
*Kevin - 2
*The King of Town - 2
*The Poopsmith - 1
*Mitch - 1
*Clark - 1
*Puppet Homestar - 1
*Litigation Jackson - 1
*Larry Palaronchini - 1
*Tucker Donaldson - 1
*Humidbot - 1
*Strong Mad - 1
*F-Sack - 1
*The Cheat - 1
*Senor Cardgage - 1
*The Announcer - 1
*Marshie - 1
*Horrible Painting - 1
*Balding Man - 1
*Stinkoman - 1
*Pan-Pan - 1
*1-Up - 1
*Peacey P - 1
*Blue Lazer Commander - 1
*Crack Stuntman - 1
*The Homestar Runner - 1
*Old-Timey Strong Bad - 1
*Sickly Sam - 1
*TGS Member - 1
*One of the 4 Gregs - 1

redesign

Geonightman — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:32:14 GMT

Geonightman: /* Real-World References */ Fixed an error on my part.

{{sbenav|153}}
[[Image:New iMac.png|thumb|{{#switch:{{#rand:1|3}}
| 1="Well, I don't know how we're gonna print it out, seeing as how somebody sliced off the back of your monitor."
| 2="Quit rubbing that plastic bar of soap on the desk!"
| 3="You clearly don't have what it takes to bring NO LOAFING to the digital age." }}]]

Strong Bad considers redesigning the [[No Loafing Sign|"No Loafing" sign]] and painting his computer room.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}} (voice only), {{Film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Cheat's Computer Room]], [[Laundry Room of the Brothers Strong]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 10, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:46

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==
''{The scene opens in a darkened Computer Room with yellow tape (reading "LELLOWTAPE") all over the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Email is nice, ''{the lights come on and Strong Bad sits down}'' habalubabulabada! ''{rips the tape away}'' Email is twice, habilastilbilasaw!  ''{pulls up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: keeping life exciting</div>
dear strong bad, 
dude i am getting bored of the "no loafing" sign and blue 
paint. 
 
jamie ericson canada
</blockquote>

''{The "dear strong bad" echoes, causing Strong Bad to look around a bit. Strong Bad pronounces "jamie ericson" as "hom-ee-ay eric-SON".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That's so funny that you should say that Jamie ''{says as an unintelligible mumble}'', because I was just thinking how bored I am with your butt, and your face, and your snotty nose.

''{"nose" echoes, and Strong Bad looks around some more. Strong Bad clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I guess the No Loafing sign could take a cue from the fast-food, soft drink, and bad sports team industries and combat sluggish sales and decades of losing with a slick logo redesign.

''{The screen cuts back and then zooms to the No Loafing sign. The blue wall vanishes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping to a beat}'' First you squish it, skew it, and turn it all around. Squish it, skew it, turn it all around.

''{As he says this, the border disappears and the words are squished, skewed, and turned around. At the end, the words are at a slant.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then we need to make it fast and slick and shiny like Flo Jo in a tuxedo.

''{The words curve, the tops of the letters become spikes pointing to the left, and they become all shiny.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping again}'' Uh! Flo Jo with da tux-''eee''-do!

''{The words react to the beat of his rap, various decorations litter the screen, and a no symbol appears behind the words.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now it's time to play Color Wheel Roulette. No Whammies, no Whammies!

''{The colors of the sign cycle through various schemes, finally ending up on the words being a dull yellow and the circle in the background turning a greenish tan, with the blank space in the middle turning brown.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{audience groans}'' Awww... Ouch, man. Now, just when you think you're done, you gotta dip it in molten Plexiglas ''{the entire sign becomes glossy}'' to give it that "children under three are sure to choke on it" goodness.

''{With a "ding", sparkles appear on the logo.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, wait. Almost forgot the fangs.

''{With a roar, [[Blood|bloody]] fangs sprout from the logo.}''

''{Cut to The Cheat and Strong Bad, with a new-style iMac in front of The Cheat. The logo Strong Bad described is on the monitor.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I don't know how we're gonna print it out, seeing as how somebody sliced off the back of your monitor. And quit rubbing that plastic bar of soap ''{indicating The Cheat's cordless mouse}'' on the desk. You clearly don't have what it takes ''{rubs The Cheat's head}'' to bring NO LOAFING into the digital age.

''{The Cheat closes the window, and Strong Bad turns toward the viewer, smiling.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But I does!

''{Cut back to the No Loafing sign.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Fresh from elementary school cafetoriums and lotto machines...

''{The No Loafing sign transforms into a cafeteria-style LED display.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...comes one of those actually pretty hard-to-read message board signs.

''{"NO LOAFING" scrolls past, followed by a crawling worm.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Capable of advanced animation, scroll-a botones...

''{The words "GRUEL IS COOL!" come in, with the individual pixels coming from opposite sides before meeting.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...and twelve levels of blinkiness.

''{"NO LOAFING" returns and the letters blink. Then the screen blinks and fireworks appear on the display.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we can celebrate the lack of loafing with some fireworks! And a man doing cartwheels!

''{The fireworks disappear and a man doing cartwheels moves across the display. Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No mortal would ''dare'' loaf under the four-colored dotted digital stare of this bad boy! Y'know, unless they looked up too late, and the "No" had already scrolled off...

''{Scrolls up to the display just as the "N" in "NO LOAFING" scrolls off.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...so they thought that it said, "DO Loafing."

''{The words "DO LOAFING" scroll on.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or maybe, like, Franklin Delano Loafing, our nation's laziest president.

''{The man doing cartwheels appears after "DO LOAFING", followed by "FRANKL" before the screen cuts back to Strong Bad's Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That's enough loaf. As for the blue wall, if you're gonna repaint anything, you might as well use that magic green screen paint that Hollywood still thinks looks good. Then the wall can be anything you want!

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer room, but with bright green walls instead of blue. Strong Bad happily skips in the middle of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Imagine being able to frolic through the bread aisle...

''{The wall — and Strong Bad's bright green eyes — are replaced with an image of a [[bread]] aisle at a supermarket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...without leaving the house!

''{Strong Bad leans back against the wall and sinks into the sitting position.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, bread aisle! Warm me with your enriched, bleached bosom! And please, give me back my sight.

''{Cut to another part of the computer room with the same green paint. Strong Bad is sitting on the floor, looking at the wall, and holding a controller.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Or play your favorite video games where the pixels are big as hams!

''{The wall becomes a video game called "Sundae Drivin'", which involves a giant bowl of ice cream on wheels driving down the road collecting toppings.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{imitating a car's engine}'' Vrrrrrrrr! Vrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

''{The sundae-car collects a cherry, and "CHERRY GET" appears on the top of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Vrrrrrrrrrr! Watch out for the wet walnuts!

''{The sundae-car collides with a brown jar with a "W" on it and it explodes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awwwwwww!

''{The screen reads "Your James Over", with a cherry under it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This game sucks.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' But what green screens are ''really'' for...

''{The screen cuts to Strong Bad, with a Greek spear, shield, and helmet, looking at the wall, which appears to be an island village with a "Claymation" cycloptic monster on it. Strong Mad can be heard doing the voice of the monster.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...is battling Claymation!

''{The monster steps forward, roaring and swiping in Strong Bad's direction.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It'll take more than karate pants to keep me from toilet-papering the temple of the gods!

''{Coach Z walks in. Where his bright green body overlaps the wall, the green screen's image appears over him, leaving just his head and feet standing on the carpet. His usual "Z" medallion is replaced with a glossy curved medallion with fangs, resembling The Cheat's remake of the No Loafing sign. Strong Bad and the monster stop fighting. When Coach Z says "Check it out!", the monster looks at the Z emblem. When Coach Z says "and turned it all..." The monster gives a glance at Strong Bad.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad! Check it out! I squished it! And skewed it! And turned it all...

''{The medallion is squished, skewed, and turned around. Both Strong Bad and the monster run off. The monster's motion trail is seen while it runs away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aaaaaaaaaaaah!

'''COACH Z:''' ...a...round?

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Aww, forget it, Jamie. ''{said as "quay-quay"}'' If you're so bored with my style, here's a change for ya.

''{Cut to the laundry room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from offscreen}'' No, pan up!

''{The screen pans up to reveal a seashell-themed wallpaper near the ceiling.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I've put up this delightful ocean-themed border in the laundry room! Oh, and look!

''{The screen zooms in on the dials on the washing machine.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I hot-glued some actual shells onto the knobs of the washer and dryer!

''{Cut back to show Strong Bad standing next to the washer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All for under fifty bucks!

''{Cut to a close-up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, that's our show. Join us next week when we show you how to knit your own splatter paints!

''{Cut back again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All for under fifty bucks!

''{A logo for "redesigning SBEMAILS, JERK FOOT" appears.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Ba-doo ba! Do Daaaah!

''{On "Daaaah!", the words "FOR UNDER 50 BUCKS" appear below. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Colorwheelroulette.PNG|thumb|Stupid Home Edition!]]
[[Image:Do loafing.PNG|thumb|Do Loafing!]]
*Click on the "No Loafing" sign when Strong Bad is playing color wheel roulette with it to see the box design for Color Wheel Roulette Stupid Home Edition by [[Boardelectrix]].
<blockquote>
-50% fewer deaths than Russian variety 
-Pant one, pant two!! 
-Twice as many deaths as Garden Variety 
</blockquote>
*When "Do Loafing" starts to scroll by on the sign, click it to see a bumper sticker for Sucky Mountain, Colorado.
*At the end, click on "Jerk" which gives a "conversation" between The Cheat's redesigned No Loafing sign and the redesigned Coach Z emblem.
:'''REDESIGNED NO LOAFING SIGN:''' ''{purrs, growls, and then roars}''
:'''REDESIGNED COACH Z EMBLEM:''' ''{runs away}'' Yorp, yorp, yorp, yorp, yorp!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
[[Image:Animated 'No Loafing' Sign.gif|thumb=NoLoafing SmAnim.gif|The "New" No Loafing sign.]]
*The Lappy was covered in "[[LELLOWTAPE]]" because it had been nearly eight weeks (up to 55 days depending on when Strong Bad took the Lappy [[Weclome Back|skydiving]]) since the last email.
*[[wikipedia:Bluescreen|Green screens]] are used in film and television in order to have an alternate background behind the live action. The solid color wall is digitally replaced by a chosen background. This technique is called ''chroma key'' or ''color-separation overlay'', and can actually be done with any color, though blue and green are the most widely-used since human skin tones do not naturally contain blue or green pigments.

*The No Loafing Scrolling Sign is actually a [[Wikipedia:LED#LED display panels|scrolling LED marquee]] ''(Pictured)''.
*A cafetorium is a room used as both a cafeteria and an auditorium and often associated with older school buildings without sufficient room to have two separate areas.

===Trivia===
*This marks the first appearance of [[Monosodium Dreams]], (an [[Wikipedia:IMac G5|iMac G5]] or [[Wikipedia:IMac Core Duo|iMac Core Duo]]), replacing the "[[Tangerine Dreams]]" [[Wikipedia:IMac G3|iMac G3]] The Cheat previously had.
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#sundae drivin'|sundae drivin]]", which is the game Strong Bad plays on the greenscreen-painted wall.
*On the dryer, one knob reads, "Start"; the other has three settings: "Dry", "Real Dry", and "High & Dry".

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad is able to fluently type the word "redesign" with only his left hand, although it uses letters from both sides of the keyboard.
*Strong Bad's "Squish it, skew it, turn it all around" song is the same tune as the "Email is nice, email is twice" song at the beginning of the email.
*When Strong Bad is playing Color Wheel Roulette, the No Loafing sign only cycles through five color schemes.
*Strong Bad asks The Cheat how he can print when "somebody sliced off the back of [his] monitor", yet his laptop screen is just as thin and he has no trouble printing The Paper out.
*The cartoon shows Strong Bad playing video games on his greenscreen-painted wall. This is actually impossible in real life, since chroma key only replaces green areas ''after'' processing the film or video output. (This is why TV weather forecasters have to look at an off-camera monitor to actually see the map they are pointing to.) Strong Bad would only ever see a green wall. The same goes for the battling claymation and being able to frolic through the bread aisle.
*On the scrolling LED No Loafing Sign, it is possible to see that the glowing lights do not line up perfectly, horizontally and vertically, with the dormant lights. Also, the words "No Loafing" slide across as a solid layer, rather than all the lights in each column lighting up one after another.
*None of the No Loafing signs are visible in the greenscreen scenes. In the real world, any of these signs would appear over the video being shown on the greenscreen.
*This email uses an older design of Strong Bad's face.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad clears the screen, the "I was just thinking how bored I am with your butt, and" line disappears prematurely.
*When the screen shifts to the No Loafing Sign, you can briefly see a second cursor on the Lappy's screen.
*When Coach Z walks in front of the Green screen, the edge of the carpet can be seen through his ankles. This should not happen, as Coach Z's feet would fully block the view of the carpet whether the green-replacement effect has "removed" Coach Z's feet or not.


===Inside References===
*Strong Bad says "email is [[twice]]".
*"Scroll-a botones" was previously used in one of the [[Scroll Button Songs]].
*The music that plays briefly in the background when Strong Bad starts "Color Wheel Roulette" is from [[The Show]], as heard on [[Main Page 19]].
*The box design for "Color Wheel Roulette Stupid Home Edition" is a reference to [[The Show#The Show! Stupid Home Edition|The Show! Stupid Home Edition]] from [[geddup noise]].
*When Strong Bad's game says "Your James Over" at the end, it echoes the [[Homsar Main Page]], where "Games" was pronounced "James".
*The explosion of the sundae looks very similar to the 'poofing' of Strong Bad's pants in [[senior prom]], Pom Pom's smoke bomb in [[Summer Short Shorts]], and the shell explosions in [[Let us give TANKS!]].


===Real-World References===
*"Franklin Delano Loafing" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Franklin D. Roosevelt|Franklin Delano Roosevelt]], the 32nd President of the United States. It's also another instance of [[Presidents]].
*"Flo-Jo" was a nickname for [[Wikipedia:Florence Griffith Joyner|Florence Griffith Joyner]], an American athlete.
*The famous phrase "No [[Wikipedia:Whammy (Press Your Luck)|Whammies]]" comes from the game show ''[[Wikipedia:Press Your Luck|Press Your Luck]]''.
*The Color Wheel picture is similar to that of [[Wikipedia: Wheel of Fortune|''Wheel of Fortune'']].
*The Color Wheel Roulette's claim of "50% fewer deaths than [[Russian]] variety" refers to the practice of [[Wikipedia:Russian roulette|Russian roulette]].
*Strong Bad's remark about dipping the sign in [[Wikipedia:Acrylic glass|molten plexiglass]] to "give it that 'children under 3 are sure to choke on it' goodness" is a reference to a common choking hazard warning seen on most plastic products.
*"Redesigning SBemails" at the end is a reference to the many house redesign shows on channels such as [[Wikipedia:HGTV|HGTV]].
**The tag line "FOR UNDER 50 BUCKS" is a reference to budget redesign shows such as [[IMDB:tt0370125|''Design on a Dime'']].
*The "Cherry Get!" graphic that appears when Strong Bad is playing "[[Sundae Drivin']]" is a reference to many Japanese video games, in which "[Object] Get!" is commonly displayed whenever you collect an object. 
**This was first noted in pre-release screenshots of the game [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Sunshine]], which showed the phrase "SHINE GET!" which has since reached memeatic status.
*The scene with the [[stop motion]] cyclops is a mashup of [[Wikipedia:Ray Harryhausen|Ray Harryhausen]] movies, most notably of [[imdb:tt0051337|''The 7th Voyage of Sinbad'']], where Sinbad fights an orange claymation cyclops on the beach (though Harryhausen used his pioneering [[Wikipedia:Dynamation|Dynamation]] technique instead of greenscreens).
*"Pant one, pant two!!" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Pantone|Pantone]] color matching systems.
*The "big as hams" reference goes back to before [[Wikipedia:David Letterman|David Letterman]] made it big. He once lost a job as a weather man on local news for stating: "... and there are hail stones the size of canned hams out there!"


===Fast Forward===
*Strong Bad's echo effect would be imitated later in [[hremail3184]], which came out after another extensive break from regular updates.
*A pumpkin depicting Coach Z's redesigned logo would appear in [[Punkin Show]]. It is called the "2006 Coach Z logo", referring to the year this email came out.

==DVD Version==
*Strong Bad's line, "But what greens screens are ''really'' for-" is replaced with Strong Bad's previously said line, "Now just when you think you're done..."

*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===

'''Commentary by: [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]]'''

'''MIKE:''' Oh, it looks like there had been a little, a little respite. I think this was the Estiveeve break.

'''MATT:''' Oh, was it?

'''MIKE:''' Esteban Powell. 

'''MIKE:''' Ummm... So, I just recently saw a redesign of... a potential redesign of the Atlanta Hawks logo.

'''MATT:''' Uh-oh.

'''MIKE:''' It look terrible!

'''MATT:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah

'''MATT:''' Does it follow the rules? Does did get—

'''MIKE:''' ''{interrupts}'' It does! It totally follows the rules! I mean—

'''MATT:''' ''{interrupts, overlapping}'' Shiny, and angular?

'''MIKE:''' It's already shin- and it's terrible now, and it got worse. And the sad thing is the Atlanta Hawks have probably have the best logo of all time, their '80s logo.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Batman logo.

'''MATT:''' With all the retro, you know, with retro being so, so in, for the last twenty years.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, the def... they wear those uniforms maybe once or twice a year, but, I don't know why, they just don't go back to it.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Who is beat boxing, Mike? ''{At the "squish it, skew it, and turn it all around" part of the email}'' Was that you, or was that me? I don't remember.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Probably you.

'''MATT:''' Oh. I'm not a very good beat box—

'''MIKE:''' Me neither! ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' I don't think I would have volunteered.

'''MATT:''' Uh, I know you got it.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Bids his beat into there!

'''MATT:''' Oh, what's that show called, no whammy show? ''{Mike says quietly "Umm... um.."}'' Press Your Luck?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' That little whammy's guy, it's a little gremlin, right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that came bac— Press Your Luck came back with like a terrible CG... ''{Mike can be faintly heard saying "What?"}'' no whammy guy.

''{short pause}''

'''MATT:''' ''{At around the part when the fangs are added.}'' That is a slick logo!

'''MATT:''' It looks like it would go smooth, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Hmmmhmm... a lozenge.

'''MATT:''' He's got a new, a new computer.

'''MIKE:''' The Tangerine Dream is gone.

'''MATT:''' It is. What is this called?

'''MIKE:''' ''{quietly}'' Umm... ''{giggles}'' Monosodium Dreams?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' That's what I called it.

'''MATT:''' ''{chuckles}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{while Matt is chuckling}'' I don— I don't know.

'''MATT:''' Umm... Look, look this is gonna tell you what's for lunch today!

'''MIKE:''' I changed... we never put it up, I did another version where instead of the cartwheel guy—

'''MATT:''' Uh-huh.

'''MIKE:''' I did some hightops that are moonwalking.

'''MATT:''' Ha, ha, yeah! Why didn't we put those in?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know maybe we'll throw those in as an Easter egg here.

'''MATT:''' Steg? ''{short pause}'' Sometimes ''{Mike can be heard saying "Steg?" in the background}'' I call them stegs.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah? I've never heard you call him that.

'''MATT:''' Well, maybe that you're not around. When I, when I do that.

'''MIKE:''' I guess, I guess not. I'm kinda glad.

'''MATT:''' Mmm-hmmm.

''{brief pause}''

'''MIKE:''' So, here's a postcard, that our friend Ryan, sent us.

'''MATT:''' You probably don't wanna read that out loud.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, it just says "We got to see these mountains and the park around sunset time. It was beautiful and had a pink hue to the whole range."

'''MATT:''' Is this from the Guadalupe mountains?

'''MIKE:''' National Park.

'''MATT:''' Wow. I can't believe Ryan was so poetic.

'''MIKE:''' Mmm-hmmm.

'''MATT:''' ''{Strong Bad leans on the wall during the "Bread Isle" background.}'' Look at all that bread.

'''MIKE:''' From the Giant Foods upstairs.

'''MATT:''' Supa, supa giant. His a— what's wrong with his eyes, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Well, Matt, let me explain to you about green screen technology! ''{Matt is heard faintly chuckling in the background.}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, why haven't we made this game yet?

'''MATT:''' ''{In response to the words "CHERRY GET!" at the top of the screen}'' Cherry, get! Hah!

'''MIKE:''' Look out for the wet — Oh, wet walnuts.

'''MATT:''' That's a nice explosion, for a game of that caliber. ''{Mike is heard laughing in the background.}'' Yeah, it's the Cheat Commandos explosion— Well, remember how good the Pole Position explosion was? That was like, photo real! I remember thinking it was photo real. Pho-real! Do you think that— People saying "fo' real" comes from? Fo' real? It's short for photo real?

'''MIKE:''' I do.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{Strong Bad is now in the laundry room.}'' Umm... So—

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' Mom likes to watch shows like this.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' I that that, I think somewhere in our— Mom's house there's a— a border like that.

'''MATT:''' She may have hot glued some shells some uh...

'''MIKE:''' ''{interrupts}'' Uh, no! No.

'''MATT:''' That's a nice looking nautilus though. ''{Mike can be heard doing a short "chuckle"}'' I have to say that nautilus shell? I would put that in my bathroom.

'''MIKE:''' I'd put a Nautilus weight machine in my bathroom.

'''MATT:''' Oh, yeah?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{As if he was trying to insult Mike}'' Jerk foot!

===Fun Facts===

*[http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Super+Giant+Foods&near=Atlanta,+GA Super Giant Foods] is a small chain of grocery stores in the Atlanta area.
*[[Wikipedia:Pole Position (arcade game)|Pole Position]] was a racing video game released first in 1982 by Namco (licensed by Atari in the US).
*[[Wikipedia:Nautilus, Inc.|Nautilus]] is a manufacturer of fitness and exercise equipment, including the [[Wikipedia:Bowflex|Bowflex]] and [[Wikipedia:Stairmaster|Stairmaster]] brands.

==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Emails With DVD Commentary]]

redesign

Geonightman — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:30:42 GMT

Geonightman: /* Real-World References */ While I do not know if this is 100% true, I have heard like 3 sources state this.

{{sbenav|153}}
[[Image:New iMac.png|thumb|{{#switch:{{#rand:1|3}}
| 1="Well, I don't know how we're gonna print it out, seeing as how somebody sliced off the back of your monitor."
| 2="Quit rubbing that plastic bar of soap on the desk!"
| 3="You clearly don't have what it takes to bring NO LOAFING to the digital age." }}]]

Strong Bad considers redesigning the [[No Loafing Sign|"No Loafing" sign]] and painting his computer room.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}} (voice only), {{Film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Cheat's Computer Room]], [[Laundry Room of the Brothers Strong]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 10, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:46

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==
''{The scene opens in a darkened Computer Room with yellow tape (reading "LELLOWTAPE") all over the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Email is nice, ''{the lights come on and Strong Bad sits down}'' habalubabulabada! ''{rips the tape away}'' Email is twice, habilastilbilasaw!  ''{pulls up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: keeping life exciting</div>
dear strong bad, 
dude i am getting bored of the "no loafing" sign and blue 
paint. 
 
jamie ericson canada
</blockquote>

''{The "dear strong bad" echoes, causing Strong Bad to look around a bit. Strong Bad pronounces "jamie ericson" as "hom-ee-ay eric-SON".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That's so funny that you should say that Jamie ''{says as an unintelligible mumble}'', because I was just thinking how bored I am with your butt, and your face, and your snotty nose.

''{"nose" echoes, and Strong Bad looks around some more. Strong Bad clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I guess the No Loafing sign could take a cue from the fast-food, soft drink, and bad sports team industries and combat sluggish sales and decades of losing with a slick logo redesign.

''{The screen cuts back and then zooms to the No Loafing sign. The blue wall vanishes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping to a beat}'' First you squish it, skew it, and turn it all around. Squish it, skew it, turn it all around.

''{As he says this, the border disappears and the words are squished, skewed, and turned around. At the end, the words are at a slant.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then we need to make it fast and slick and shiny like Flo Jo in a tuxedo.

''{The words curve, the tops of the letters become spikes pointing to the left, and they become all shiny.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping again}'' Uh! Flo Jo with da tux-''eee''-do!

''{The words react to the beat of his rap, various decorations litter the screen, and a no symbol appears behind the words.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now it's time to play Color Wheel Roulette. No Whammies, no Whammies!

''{The colors of the sign cycle through various schemes, finally ending up on the words being a dull yellow and the circle in the background turning a greenish tan, with the blank space in the middle turning brown.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{audience groans}'' Awww... Ouch, man. Now, just when you think you're done, you gotta dip it in molten Plexiglas ''{the entire sign becomes glossy}'' to give it that "children under three are sure to choke on it" goodness.

''{With a "ding", sparkles appear on the logo.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, wait. Almost forgot the fangs.

''{With a roar, [[Blood|bloody]] fangs sprout from the logo.}''

''{Cut to The Cheat and Strong Bad, with a new-style iMac in front of The Cheat. The logo Strong Bad described is on the monitor.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I don't know how we're gonna print it out, seeing as how somebody sliced off the back of your monitor. And quit rubbing that plastic bar of soap ''{indicating The Cheat's cordless mouse}'' on the desk. You clearly don't have what it takes ''{rubs The Cheat's head}'' to bring NO LOAFING into the digital age.

''{The Cheat closes the window, and Strong Bad turns toward the viewer, smiling.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But I does!

''{Cut back to the No Loafing sign.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Fresh from elementary school cafetoriums and lotto machines...

''{The No Loafing sign transforms into a cafeteria-style LED display.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...comes one of those actually pretty hard-to-read message board signs.

''{"NO LOAFING" scrolls past, followed by a crawling worm.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Capable of advanced animation, scroll-a botones...

''{The words "GRUEL IS COOL!" come in, with the individual pixels coming from opposite sides before meeting.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...and twelve levels of blinkiness.

''{"NO LOAFING" returns and the letters blink. Then the screen blinks and fireworks appear on the display.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we can celebrate the lack of loafing with some fireworks! And a man doing cartwheels!

''{The fireworks disappear and a man doing cartwheels moves across the display. Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No mortal would ''dare'' loaf under the four-colored dotted digital stare of this bad boy! Y'know, unless they looked up too late, and the "No" had already scrolled off...

''{Scrolls up to the display just as the "N" in "NO LOAFING" scrolls off.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...so they thought that it said, "DO Loafing."

''{The words "DO LOAFING" scroll on.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or maybe, like, Franklin Delano Loafing, our nation's laziest president.

''{The man doing cartwheels appears after "DO LOAFING", followed by "FRANKL" before the screen cuts back to Strong Bad's Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That's enough loaf. As for the blue wall, if you're gonna repaint anything, you might as well use that magic green screen paint that Hollywood still thinks looks good. Then the wall can be anything you want!

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer room, but with bright green walls instead of blue. Strong Bad happily skips in the middle of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Imagine being able to frolic through the bread aisle...

''{The wall — and Strong Bad's bright green eyes — are replaced with an image of a [[bread]] aisle at a supermarket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...without leaving the house!

''{Strong Bad leans back against the wall and sinks into the sitting position.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, bread aisle! Warm me with your enriched, bleached bosom! And please, give me back my sight.

''{Cut to another part of the computer room with the same green paint. Strong Bad is sitting on the floor, looking at the wall, and holding a controller.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Or play your favorite video games where the pixels are big as hams!

''{The wall becomes a video game called "Sundae Drivin'", which involves a giant bowl of ice cream on wheels driving down the road collecting toppings.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{imitating a car's engine}'' Vrrrrrrrr! Vrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

''{The sundae-car collects a cherry, and "CHERRY GET" appears on the top of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Vrrrrrrrrrr! Watch out for the wet walnuts!

''{The sundae-car collides with a brown jar with a "W" on it and it explodes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awwwwwww!

''{The screen reads "Your James Over", with a cherry under it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This game sucks.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' But what green screens are ''really'' for...

''{The screen cuts to Strong Bad, with a Greek spear, shield, and helmet, looking at the wall, which appears to be an island village with a "Claymation" cycloptic monster on it. Strong Mad can be heard doing the voice of the monster.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...is battling Claymation!

''{The monster steps forward, roaring and swiping in Strong Bad's direction.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It'll take more than karate pants to keep me from toilet-papering the temple of the gods!

''{Coach Z walks in. Where his bright green body overlaps the wall, the green screen's image appears over him, leaving just his head and feet standing on the carpet. His usual "Z" medallion is replaced with a glossy curved medallion with fangs, resembling The Cheat's remake of the No Loafing sign. Strong Bad and the monster stop fighting. When Coach Z says "Check it out!", the monster looks at the Z emblem. When Coach Z says "and turned it all..." The monster gives a glance at Strong Bad.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad! Check it out! I squished it! And skewed it! And turned it all...

''{The medallion is squished, skewed, and turned around. Both Strong Bad and the monster run off. The monster's motion trail is seen while it runs away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aaaaaaaaaaaah!

'''COACH Z:''' ...a...round?

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Aww, forget it, Jamie. ''{said as "quay-quay"}'' If you're so bored with my style, here's a change for ya.

''{Cut to the laundry room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from offscreen}'' No, pan up!

''{The screen pans up to reveal a seashell-themed wallpaper near the ceiling.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I've put up this delightful ocean-themed border in the laundry room! Oh, and look!

''{The screen zooms in on the dials on the washing machine.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I hot-glued some actual shells onto the knobs of the washer and dryer!

''{Cut back to show Strong Bad standing next to the washer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All for under fifty bucks!

''{Cut to a close-up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, that's our show. Join us next week when we show you how to knit your own splatter paints!

''{Cut back again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All for under fifty bucks!

''{A logo for "redesigning SBEMAILS, JERK FOOT" appears.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Ba-doo ba! Do Daaaah!

''{On "Daaaah!", the words "FOR UNDER 50 BUCKS" appear below. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Colorwheelroulette.PNG|thumb|Stupid Home Edition!]]
[[Image:Do loafing.PNG|thumb|Do Loafing!]]
*Click on the "No Loafing" sign when Strong Bad is playing color wheel roulette with it to see the box design for Color Wheel Roulette Stupid Home Edition by [[Boardelectrix]].
<blockquote>
-50% fewer deaths than Russian variety 
-Pant one, pant two!! 
-Twice as many deaths as Garden Variety 
</blockquote>
*When "Do Loafing" starts to scroll by on the sign, click it to see a bumper sticker for Sucky Mountain, Colorado.
*At the end, click on "Jerk" which gives a "conversation" between The Cheat's redesigned No Loafing sign and the redesigned Coach Z emblem.
:'''REDESIGNED NO LOAFING SIGN:''' ''{purrs, growls, and then roars}''
:'''REDESIGNED COACH Z EMBLEM:''' ''{runs away}'' Yorp, yorp, yorp, yorp, yorp!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
[[Image:Animated 'No Loafing' Sign.gif|thumb=NoLoafing SmAnim.gif|The "New" No Loafing sign.]]
*The Lappy was covered in "[[LELLOWTAPE]]" because it had been nearly eight weeks (up to 55 days depending on when Strong Bad took the Lappy [[Weclome Back|skydiving]]) since the last email.
*[[wikipedia:Bluescreen|Green screens]] are used in film and television in order to have an alternate background behind the live action. The solid color wall is digitally replaced by a chosen background. This technique is called ''chroma key'' or ''color-separation overlay'', and can actually be done with any color, though blue and green are the most widely-used since human skin tones do not naturally contain blue or green pigments.

*The No Loafing Scrolling Sign is actually a [[Wikipedia:LED#LED display panels|scrolling LED marquee]] ''(Pictured)''.
*A cafetorium is a room used as both a cafeteria and an auditorium and often associated with older school buildings without sufficient room to have two separate areas.

===Trivia===
*This marks the first appearance of [[Monosodium Dreams]], (an [[Wikipedia:IMac G5|iMac G5]] or [[Wikipedia:IMac Core Duo|iMac Core Duo]]), replacing the "[[Tangerine Dreams]]" [[Wikipedia:IMac G3|iMac G3]] The Cheat previously had.
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#sundae drivin'|sundae drivin]]", which is the game Strong Bad plays on the greenscreen-painted wall.
*On the dryer, one knob reads, "Start"; the other has three settings: "Dry", "Real Dry", and "High & Dry".

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad is able to fluently type the word "redesign" with only his left hand, although it uses letters from both sides of the keyboard.
*Strong Bad's "Squish it, skew it, turn it all around" song is the same tune as the "Email is nice, email is twice" song at the beginning of the email.
*When Strong Bad is playing Color Wheel Roulette, the No Loafing sign only cycles through five color schemes.
*Strong Bad asks The Cheat how he can print when "somebody sliced off the back of [his] monitor", yet his laptop screen is just as thin and he has no trouble printing The Paper out.
*The cartoon shows Strong Bad playing video games on his greenscreen-painted wall. This is actually impossible in real life, since chroma key only replaces green areas ''after'' processing the film or video output. (This is why TV weather forecasters have to look at an off-camera monitor to actually see the map they are pointing to.) Strong Bad would only ever see a green wall. The same goes for the battling claymation and being able to frolic through the bread aisle.
*On the scrolling LED No Loafing Sign, it is possible to see that the glowing lights do not line up perfectly, horizontally and vertically, with the dormant lights. Also, the words "No Loafing" slide across as a solid layer, rather than all the lights in each column lighting up one after another.
*None of the No Loafing signs are visible in the greenscreen scenes. In the real world, any of these signs would appear over the video being shown on the greenscreen.
*This email uses an older design of Strong Bad's face.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad clears the screen, the "I was just thinking how bored I am with your butt, and" line disappears prematurely.
*When the screen shifts to the No Loafing Sign, you can briefly see a second cursor on the Lappy's screen.
*When Coach Z walks in front of the Green screen, the edge of the carpet can be seen through his ankles. This should not happen, as Coach Z's feet would fully block the view of the carpet whether the green-replacement effect has "removed" Coach Z's feet or not.


===Inside References===
*Strong Bad says "email is [[twice]]".
*"Scroll-a botones" was previously used in one of the [[Scroll Button Songs]].
*The music that plays briefly in the background when Strong Bad starts "Color Wheel Roulette" is from [[The Show]], as heard on [[Main Page 19]].
*The box design for "Color Wheel Roulette Stupid Home Edition" is a reference to [[The Show#The Show! Stupid Home Edition|The Show! Stupid Home Edition]] from [[geddup noise]].
*When Strong Bad's game says "Your James Over" at the end, it echoes the [[Homsar Main Page]], where "Games" was pronounced "James".
*The explosion of the sundae looks very similar to the 'poofing' of Strong Bad's pants in [[senior prom]], Pom Pom's smoke bomb in [[Summer Short Shorts]], and the shell explosions in [[Let us give TANKS!]].


===Real-World References===
*"Franklin Delano Loafing" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Franklin D. Roosevelt|Franklin Delano Roosevelt]], the 32nd President of the United States. It's also another instance of [[Presidents]].
*"Flo-Jo" was a nickname for [[Wikipedia:Florence Griffith Joyner|Florence Griffith Joyner]], an American athlete.
*The famous phrase "No [[Wikipedia:Whammy (Press Your Luck)|Whammies]]" comes from the game show ''[[Wikipedia:Press Your Luck|Press Your Luck]]''.
*The Color Wheel picture is similar to that of [[Wikipedia: Wheel of Fortune|''Wheel of Fortune'']].
*The Color Wheel Roulette's claim of "50% fewer deaths than [[Russian]] variety" refers to the practice of [[Wikipedia:Russian roulette|Russian roulette]].
*Strong Bad's remark about dipping the sign in [[Wikipedia:Acrylic glass|molten plexiglass]] to "give it that 'children under 3 are sure to choke on it' goodness" is a reference to a common choking hazard warning seen on most plastic products.
*"Redesigning SBemails" at the end is a reference to the many house redesign shows on channels such as [[Wikipedia:HGTV|HGTV]].
**The tag line "FOR UNDER 50 BUCKS" is a reference to budget redesign shows such as [[IMDB:tt0370125|''Design on a Dime'']].
*The "Cherry Get!" graphic that appears when Strong Bad is playing "[[Sundae Drivin']]" is a reference to many Japanese video games, in which "[Object] Get!" is commonly displayed whenever you collect an object. 
**This was first noted in pre-release screenshots of the game [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Sunshine]], which showed the phrase "SHINE GET!" which has since reached memeatic status.
*The scene with the [[stop motion]] cyclops is a mashup of [[Wikipedia:Ray Harryhausen|Ray Harryhausen]] movies, most notably of [[imdb:tt0051337|''The 7th Voyage of Sinbad'']], where Sinbad fights an orange claymation cyclops on the beach (though Harryhausen used his pioneering [[Wikipedia:Dynamation|Dynamation]] technique instead of greenscreens).
*"Pant one, pant two!!" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Pantone|Pantone]] color matching systems.
*The "big as hams" reference goes back to before [[Wikipedia:David Letterman|David Letterman]] made it big. He once lost a job as a weather man on local news for stating: "... and there are hail stones the size of canned hams out there!"


===Fast Forward===
*Strong Bad's echo effect would be imitated later in [[hremail3184]], which came out after another extensive break from regular updates.
*A pumpkin depicting Coach Z's redesigned logo would appear in [[Punkin Show]]. It is called the "2006 Coach Z logo", referring to the year this email came out.

==DVD Version==
*Strong Bad's line, "But what greens screens are ''really'' for-" is replaced with Strong Bad's previously said line, "Now just when you think you're done..."

*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===

'''Commentary by: [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]]'''

'''MIKE:''' Oh, it looks like there had been a little, a little respite. I think this was the Estiveeve break.

'''MATT:''' Oh, was it?

'''MIKE:''' Esteban Powell. 

'''MIKE:''' Ummm... So, I just recently saw a redesign of... a potential redesign of the Atlanta Hawks logo.

'''MATT:''' Uh-oh.

'''MIKE:''' It look terrible!

'''MATT:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah

'''MATT:''' Does it follow the rules? Does did get—

'''MIKE:''' ''{interrupts}'' It does! It totally follows the rules! I mean—

'''MATT:''' ''{interrupts, overlapping}'' Shiny, and angular?

'''MIKE:''' It's already shin- and it's terrible now, and it got worse. And the sad thing is the Atlanta Hawks have probably have the best logo of all time, their '80s logo.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Batman logo.

'''MATT:''' With all the retro, you know, with retro being so, so in, for the last twenty years.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, the def... they wear those uniforms maybe once or twice a year, but, I don't know why, they just don't go back to it.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Who is beat boxing, Mike? ''{At the "squish it, skew it, and turn it all around" part of the email}'' Was that you, or was that me? I don't remember.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Probably you.

'''MATT:''' Oh. I'm not a very good beat box—

'''MIKE:''' Me neither! ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' I don't think I would have volunteered.

'''MATT:''' Uh, I know you got it.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Bids his beat into there!

'''MATT:''' Oh, what's that show called, no whammy show? ''{Mike says quietly "Umm... um.."}'' Press Your Luck?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' That little whammy's guy, it's a little gremlin, right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that came bac— Press Your Luck came back with like a terrible CG... ''{Mike can be faintly heard saying "What?"}'' no whammy guy.

''{short pause}''

'''MATT:''' ''{At around the part when the fangs are added.}'' That is a slick logo!

'''MATT:''' It looks like it would go smooth, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Hmmmhmm... a lozenge.

'''MATT:''' He's got a new, a new computer.

'''MIKE:''' The Tangerine Dream is gone.

'''MATT:''' It is. What is this called?

'''MIKE:''' ''{quietly}'' Umm... ''{giggles}'' Monosodium Dreams?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' That's what I called it.

'''MATT:''' ''{chuckles}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{while Matt is chuckling}'' I don— I don't know.

'''MATT:''' Umm... Look, look this is gonna tell you what's for lunch today!

'''MIKE:''' I changed... we never put it up, I did another version where instead of the cartwheel guy—

'''MATT:''' Uh-huh.

'''MIKE:''' I did some hightops that are moonwalking.

'''MATT:''' Ha, ha, yeah! Why didn't we put those in?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know maybe we'll throw those in as an Easter egg here.

'''MATT:''' Steg? ''{short pause}'' Sometimes ''{Mike can be heard saying "Steg?" in the background}'' I call them stegs.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah? I've never heard you call him that.

'''MATT:''' Well, maybe that you're not around. When I, when I do that.

'''MIKE:''' I guess, I guess not. I'm kinda glad.

'''MATT:''' Mmm-hmmm.

''{brief pause}''

'''MIKE:''' So, here's a postcard, that our friend Ryan, sent us.

'''MATT:''' You probably don't wanna read that out loud.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, it just says "We got to see these mountains and the park around sunset time. It was beautiful and had a pink hue to the whole range."

'''MATT:''' Is this from the Guadalupe mountains?

'''MIKE:''' National Park.

'''MATT:''' Wow. I can't believe Ryan was so poetic.

'''MIKE:''' Mmm-hmmm.

'''MATT:''' ''{Strong Bad leans on the wall during the "Bread Isle" background.}'' Look at all that bread.

'''MIKE:''' From the Giant Foods upstairs.

'''MATT:''' Supa, supa giant. His a— what's wrong with his eyes, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Well, Matt, let me explain to you about green screen technology! ''{Matt is heard faintly chuckling in the background.}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, why haven't we made this game yet?

'''MATT:''' ''{In response to the words "CHERRY GET!" at the top of the screen}'' Cherry, get! Hah!

'''MIKE:''' Look out for the wet — Oh, wet walnuts.

'''MATT:''' That's a nice explosion, for a game of that caliber. ''{Mike is heard laughing in the background.}'' Yeah, it's the Cheat Commandos explosion— Well, remember how good the Pole Position explosion was? That was like, photo real! I remember thinking it was photo real. Pho-real! Do you think that— People saying "fo' real" comes from? Fo' real? It's short for photo real?

'''MIKE:''' I do.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{Strong Bad is now in the laundry room.}'' Umm... So—

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' Mom likes to watch shows like this.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' I that that, I think somewhere in our— Mom's house there's a— a border like that.

'''MATT:''' She may have hot glued some shells some uh...

'''MIKE:''' ''{interrupts}'' Uh, no! No.

'''MATT:''' That's a nice looking nautilus though. ''{Mike can be heard doing a short "chuckle"}'' I have to say that nautilus shell? I would put that in my bathroom.

'''MIKE:''' I'd put a Nautilus weight machine in my bathroom.

'''MATT:''' Oh, yeah?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{As if he was trying to insult Mike}'' Jerk foot!

===Fun Facts===

*[http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Super+Giant+Foods&near=Atlanta,+GA Super Giant Foods] is a small chain of grocery stores in the Atlanta area.
*[[Wikipedia:Pole Position (arcade game)|Pole Position]] was a racing video game released first in 1982 by Namco (licensed by Atari in the US).
*[[Wikipedia:Nautilus, Inc.|Nautilus]] is a manufacturer of fitness and exercise equipment, including the [[Wikipedia:Bowflex|Bowflex]] and [[Wikipedia:Stairmaster|Stairmaster]] brands.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|153|9061}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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Doom

Geonightman — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:37:09 GMT

Geonightman: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Pom Pom - Cacodemon.png|thumb|Pom Pom as a Cacodemon]]
'''[[Wikipedia:Doom (series)|Doom]]''' is a series of violent first-person shooter video games, one of the first of its kind in the video game industry. [[The Brothers Chaps]] have made several references in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner body of work]] to the series, especially both [[Wikipedia:Doom (video game)|the first game in the series]] and {{pl|l=http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Cacodemon cacodemons}}, the floating one-eyed demon foes that appear in the game. They also make several references to WADs. A .WAD file is a data file for the Doom Engine that is normally a mod made by one or more fans that includes new maps, weapons, etc. The Brothers Chaps use this extension for random programs.

==Appearances==
*[[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] — The ending snort made by [[Trogdor]] is from the {{pl|l=http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Demon Demon monster}}.
*Email [[secret identity]] — "strongbad_email.wad" and "Initiate sbemail-refresh daemon" are both homages to this game.
*Email [[alternate universe]] — [[Strong Bad]] remarks that his [[Blender#Game Boy in a Blender|alternate universe portal]] will release Cacodemons.
*[[strongbad email.exe Disc Five]] — If you wait too long to select a toon, a Cacodemon appears, and Strong Bad comments on it. The text that appears after it is also a modified version of the [[Fonts#Doom|DooM font]].
*[[Jibblies 2]] — [[Pom Pom]] [[Jibblies 2 Costumes|dresses up]] as a Cacodemon for [[Halloween]].
*[[SBCG4AP Advertisement]] — Strong Bad runs a program called "strongbad3Dtotal.wad", a simple 3D game.
*Email [[specially marked]] — [[Breakfast Cereals from Specially Marked#Blue Laser Blasts!|"Blue Laser Blasts!"]] uses the [[Fonts#Doom|DooM font]], which is based off of the font used in Doom.
*[[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]] — On the Wii version, Strong Bad uses [[Lappy 486#Programs|several wad files]] to run the game.

==External Links==
*[http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Entryway Doom Wiki]

[[Category:Video game references]]
[[Category:Entertainment running gags]]

dreamail

Geonightman — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:46:46 GMT

Geonightman: /* Remarks */

{{sbenav|122}}
[[Image:sbemail122.png|thumb|"But right now, I gotta fly."]]

Strong Bad describes for us what his dream email, and his dream life, would be like. The pink border doesn't cut it.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Lappy 486#Female Lappy 486|Female Lappy 486]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Nuclear Class Submarine "Soccermom"]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, January 10, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:43

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, oh, email's in the backyard, makin' some stew...

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Perfect email</div>
Hey StrongBad 
I was just wondering: what do you look for in an email? 
Another words, describe that dream email that you would like 
to recieve one day. 
With lots of anticipation, Danny Gedgafov from Glenview, IL</blockquote>

''{After reading "Another words," Strong Bad says, "Oh, look! And there's some another words." Also, he has difficulty reading Danny's name, resulting in the following.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Danny Geh-geh-geh... Gih-gih-gih... Ge-ka-koff...from Gliggityvoo, Illinois. ''{He pronounces the S of Illinois.}'' ''{typing}'' My dream email. My "dreamail." ''{clears screen, resumes typing}'' Well plain ol' Danny, there are a lot of email-fish out there in the Email Sea. And while most of them are those nasty bottom-feeders with the suckhole mouth, there are a few that break the glimmering surface of the water, to glisten in the sunset for a few fleeting moments like some kind of glorious e-marlin. Another words, please allow me to ditch the fishing metaphor and hit you with the pink border.

''{A pink border appears around the edge of the screen, causing the center to turn white. The whiteness fades into Strong Bad at the Lappy, which now has a golden chain license-plate cover around its screen reading "MY LAPPY ATE YOUR DOG" at the top.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' OK, orchestra, hit it! ''{The orchestra starts up, and Strong Bad sings in an operatic style.}'' Email me tonight!

''{The orchestra hits its last two notes, and the Lappy booting sequence begins. However, the Lappy emblem now looks female with blonde hair, and speaks to Strong Bad with corresponding text appearing below it.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Good morning, Strong Bad. You're looking prooty hot. You have one unread messages.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, thank you, Lappy. You're looking prooty hot too. On screen!

''{Strong Bad clears the bootup screen, and reads the new email.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: French countryside</div>
Dear Mssr. Eleganté, 
You left your pocketwatch in the hot tub. When will you be back to retrieve it? 
-128 Hot Katies</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' My Katies 1-128, Good to hear from all y'all (especially you, Katie 80). When my raucous schedule ''{pronounced as "shedule"}'' permits, I will triumphantly/abundantly ''{pronounced as triumphantly slash abundantly}'' return to the chateau for my ruby-encrusted pocketwatch. I have plans tonight, however, but I will, furthermore, heretofore, be back on morrow next. Please tell Adelaide that the poached eggs were tremendous. Forever Young, Chester Eleganté ''{Strong Bad hits enter, and the female Lappy icon appears back onscreen as the email disappears.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Well played, Strong Bad. Those ladies are sure to be all up ons.

''{The pink border and such fades away as we cut back to the normal world.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh, man. If I got that email, I would have it bronzed, and then dipped in...uh guacamole and The Cheat would read it to me every night at supper.

''{The scene cuts back to the pink border dreamworld, this time at a banquet table (made out of a door) with large windows in the background, a covered serving tray and a golden chalice (or maybe just a doorknob). Strong Bad rolls forward in a plush chair with fork in hand to where the serving tray is. The Cheat's arm improbably stretches out from the right side of the screen and lifts the cover}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh! Cadbury Creme Egg omelet! ''{calling offscreen}'' Continue, The Cheat.

''{The camera pans to the other end of the table, where The Cheat is sitting in a similar chair, holding a bronze plaque with guacamole all over it. The Cheat starts to read it, then growls, rubs part of the front of the plaque, and continues. The camera pans back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' Oh, I love that part! Read it again, slowly, and... backwards.

''{The camera pans back to The Cheat, who starts to read backwards, slowly and with some difficulty. Homestar Runner walks on-camera from the left side of the screen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{while The Cheat is still reading}'' The Cheat! What's been up?

''{The camera pans back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Strong Bad, found your pocketwatch. ''{Homestar tosses a ruby-encrusted pocketwatch in Strong Bad's omelette.}'' Katie 80 says "What's up". ''{The camera pans back to The Cheat.}'' So, The Cheat! What's been up?

''{The camera cuts to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' CRAP THE WHAT?! ''{Strong Bad bangs on the table with his fists.}'' This pink border is '''not''' ''{Bangs on table with his fists}'' holding up its end of the bargain! ''{Bangs on table with fists}'' Come on, pink border, ''{bangs on table one last time as he gets up frantically}'' get your head in the game!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Pink border?

''{The scene cuts back to the real world, where Homestar is standing to the right of Strong Bad at his computer desk.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, what are you talking aboot?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looks around for a moment}'' Oh, we're back here.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah. I found your pocket lint. ''{puts some pocket lint on the desk}'' And Marzipan says you're an ogre.

''{The camera focuses back on Strong Bad and the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Awww! I knew I shoulda gone with a puffy white cloud border. Those things never let you down. Homestar never woulda shown up in a Puffy White Cloud Dreamail.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I do hate white clowns.

''{A center wipe suddenly happens with white clouds forming the border. Strong Bad's computer desk is now apparently in a submarine, with the text "NUCLEAR CLASS SUBMARINE 'SOCCERMOM'" painted on the inside of its hull. As Strong Bad types, some creature with a huge eye looks in through a nearby porthole, and the pinging of a sonar can be heard in the background}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And if you ignore all the facts and scientific evidence, then those weird little kids were right. Thanks for your question, Leonard Nimoy. I'll be back next week to solve another Celebrity Murder Mystery. ''{stops typing and stands up, addressing the camera}'' But right now, I gotta fly.

''{Strong Bad strikes a pose, and strings suddenly appear attached to him. Strong Bad makes various noises as he is lifted away to the upper right corner of the screen, where he gets stuck. The Paper, which now seems to be modeled after the [[Wikipedia:United States Constitution|U.S. Constitution]], comes down with the Strong Bad email link looking like it has been written on it in marker}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Emarlin.PNG|thumb|An e-marlin breaks the glimmering surface of the Lappy.]]
*Click on "e-marlin" to cause an [[ASCII art]] marlin to jump from the bottom of the screen.
*Click on the graffiti on Strong Bad's dream table to see a zoomed-in view of it. It reads, "Ooh Dang, Strong Bad! You go child!" and is signed "Jackeé".
*Click on the Lappy's screen at the end of the email to hear additional dialogue from the female Lappy.
:''{The Female Lappy appears back on-screen}''
:'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Don't fly, Strong Bad. Please come down. I worry about you. I can see the strings.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*"You have one unread messages." is a reference to poorly written computer programs that do not special case the number one.
*The misspelling of "prooty" when Lappy 486 says "pretty" is a reference to old speech synthesizers like [[Wikipedia:Software Automatic Mouth|Software Automated Mouth]] that forced the user to use phonetic spelling to make the words come out right.

===Trivia===
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad checking more than one email]].
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#miner 2049er|miner 2049er]]".

===Remarks===
*The words "about" and "schedule" are pronounced using the [[Wikipedia:Canadian English|stereotypical Canadian pronunciations]] "aboot" and "shedule".
*When Strong Bad gets up, [[The Geddup Noise]] does not occur.
*This is one of the few emails that shows Strong Bad actually typing. One of the other times this is shown is in [[dullard]], but Strong Bad's style of typing has changed since then.
*Despite all the fuss Strong Bad makes about correct grammar and punctuation, he fails to realize or acknowledge that Danny has spelled the word ''receive'' wrong in his email.
*This is the first appearance of [[Female Lappy]].
*This is the first time the new design of Strong Bad's stool appears. The old one just showed two legs and looked two-dimensional while the new design shows all four legs for a more 3D look.
*There is no back button at the end of this email.
*During the dream scene and after the dream scene, Homestar's eyes appear closer than normal. Another instance of this was in [[time capsule]].
*Homestar says that he hates white clouds, however in [[from work]] he says that his dream job would be to be the "guy who paints the clouds with an oversized novelty toothbrush".

===Goofs===
*The official French abbreviation for ''Monsieur'' is "M.", but it is misspelled as "Mssr." in the "French Countryside" dream email. This may be based on the abbreviation "Messrs." or "Mssrs.", standing for Messieurs, the plural of Monsieur. The spelling also resembles the way French actually pronounce ''Monsieur'', which Strong Bad imitates.

===Inside References===
*The phrase "[[All up ons]]" is from the email [[suntan]].
*The Celebrity Murder Mystery is very similar to a comment made by Homsar in [[suntan]].
*The strings pulling up Strong Bad may be a reference to a similar flight made by Homestar in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].
*This is another instance of [[Killing Dogs|killing someone's dog]].
*The Cheat reading the bronzed email backwards is an instance of [[reversed dialogue]].

===Real-World References===
*The pink border is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], which used the same border for its dream sequences. This was confirmed by [[The Brothers Chaps]] in the [[#Commentary Transcript|DVD commentary]] for this email.
*Strong Bad's dreamail dinner table is made from the front door from the show [[Wikipedia:227 (TV series)|"227"]] and is signed by actress [[Wikipedia:Jackée Harry|Jackée Harry]] who played Sandra Clark on the late '80s sitcom.
*[[Wikipedia:Cadbury Creme Egg|Cadbury Creme Eggs]] are chocolate eggs with a white and yellow fondant filling produced by [[Wikipedia:Cadbury Schweppes|Cadbury Schweppes]].
*The sign-off "Forever young" also appeared in an Easter egg in [[personal favorites]]. It could be a reference to the 1973 [[Wikipedia:Bob Dylan|Bob Dylan]] song, the 1988 [[Wikipedia:Rod Stewart|Rod Stewart]] hit, or possibly the [[Wikipedia:Alphaville (band)|Alphaville]] song of the same name, which was a hit in 1984.
*The Cheat's method of removing the cover from Strong Bad's serving tray is an homage to [[Dr. Seuss]].
*When Strong Bad says "On screen!" it is a reference to innumerable [[Wikipedia:Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]] episodes in which [[Wikipedia:Jean-Luc Picard|Captain Jean-Luc Picard]] gives the same command.
*[[IMDB:nm0000559|Leonard Nimoy]] is the actor who played "Spock" on the original Star Trek series. Strong Bad's reference to him and scientific facts is probably related to [[Wikipedia:In Search Of...|In Search Of...]], a television show hosted by Nimoy that explored controversial explanations of the paranormal and disputed historical events.
*The sonar-like sound in the submarine is sampled from the Pink Floyd song "Echoes".

===Fast Forward===
*The pink border is again used as representing Strong Bad's imagination in an Easter egg in [[On Break]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' That was a nice little jig.

'''MIKE:''' Song. A jig is a dance.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' But he was probably doing one there in the stool.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah we could se—

'''MATT:''' Sitting in the stool.

'''MIKE:''' What are you saying?

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' I wanna start this one over.

'''MIKE:''' No, let's keep going. It's good.

'''MATT:''' Are you sure?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' How many of these do you think on this DVD we said that we were gonna start over and then don't?

'''MIKE:''' I think this is the fourth or fifth one.

'''MATT:''' Nice!

''{short pause}''

'''MIKE:''' I haven't watched this one in a while.

'''MATT:''' I know. I don't know what happens in it. Who's this guy talking right now?

'''MIKE:''' Red Head. ''{both laugh}'' That's Ol' Red Head.

''{pause until Strong Bad types "suckhole mouth"}''

'''MIKE:''' That— "Suckhole" is some foul language.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Are we allowed to say that on the DVD?

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' I don't think so!

'''MATT:''' I think it's worse that the DVD standard.

''{pause until Strong Bad types pink border}''

'''MATT:''' So the pink border, Mike—

'''MIKE:''' Oh!

'''MATT:''' Pioneered by ''Saved By the Bell''.

'''MIKE:''' It's true!

'''MATT:''' Dream sequences.

''{both laugh}''

'''MATT:''' That's a nice license plate border he's got on his Lappy.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. I'd like to get one of those for my uh—

'''MATT:''' Look at that hot logo!

'''MIKE:''' Listen to that hot voice!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

''{short pause}''

'''MATT:''' She is a— a fine— a hip, hip, hip, hip, hip lady. The Lappy logo.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Uh... what did Mssr. Elegante come from? Didn't you— or did you just make that up?

'''MIKE:''' I think I just made that up. I don't remember if it was from something or not.

''{pause until after Strong Bad types Katie 80}''

'''MIKE:''' That rhymes.

'''MATT:''' Umm... "schedule" ''{says it like "shedule"}'' obviously is the very highbrow way to say "schedule".

'''MIKE:''' Or the very my second grade teacher way to say it.

'''MATT:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Who was that?

'''MIKE:''' Mrs. Wilburn.

'''MATT:''' Wilburn?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' I don't remember her.

'''MIKE:''' She was gone by your— by your days.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

''{short pause until Strong Bad types Chester Elegante}''

'''MATT:''' Is that Adelaide from ''Facts of Life'', Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Probably.

'''MATT:''' The maid.

'''MIKE:''' One of them— one of the several— or I guess it was ''Different Strokes'' that kept changing. They had Pearl.

'''MATT:''' Oh, maybe she was on— oh Adalaide might have been ''Different Strokes''—

'''MIKE:''' Mrs. Garret was—

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That's why I'm mixing them up.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

''{pause until scene cuts to the dinner table}''

'''MATT:''' So this is—

'''MIKE:''' Speaking of TV shows on Saturday nights—

'''MATT:''' Mmm hmm—

'''MIKE:''' Like uh— ''Facts of Life''. There's 227.

'''MATT:''' Look. It's signed by Jackée!

'''MIKE:''' There's a—

'''MATT:''' The best part is that I don't think there was a door that says 227 on it or something err—

'''MIKE:''' In my mind that— they were sitting on a stoop and there was a door always that said 227.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, maybe a door—

'''MIKE:''' But I think I'm making it up.

'''MATT:''' But I think that was the number of the uh-the building 'cause they lived in a brownstone so 227 wasn't like somebody's apartment number which is sorta what that door looks like.

''{short pause}''

'''MIKE:''' You've got a Cadbury Creme Egg in your desk drawer.

'''MATT:''' I still do! I don't—

'''MIKE:''' It's from Easter.

'''MATT:''' I don't know if I'm gonna eat it.

'''MIKE:''' I can't believe I haven't eaten it in some fit of hunger.

'''MATT:''' That room—

'''MIKE:''' That—

'''MATT:''' That room definitely looks like that room at the end of, uh— 2001.

'''MIKE:''' Mmm hmm—

'''MATT:''' When after he's gone through the s— the monolith. It scares me in there. I wouldn't make my— my dream house look like that.

'''MIKE:''' I used to have this, uh— dream house that was a giant like maybe— 30 foot wide carpeted stairway. And it just went down to this opening with like six doors off of it.

'''MATT:''' Uh huh?

'''MIKE:''' Gosh. I drew a picture of it in low res on the— on our old IBM.

'''MATT:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' On the green low-res graphics.

'''MATT:''' Nice.

'''MIKE:''' I drew this picture of a giant carpeted stairway.

'''MATT:''' We should broach— we should go back and do this again and talk about the email.

== External Links ==
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different town

Geonightman — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:33:33 GMT

Geonightman: /* Fun Facts */ Moved somthing to the right spot.

{{sbenav|99}}
[[Image:sbemail99.png|thumb|"WHOA! Can it be true?"]]

Strong Bad describes how he would make his town different, through song.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, [[Different Town Character Variations|ABA Basketball Pom Pom]], {{Film|Homsar}}, [[Different Town Character Variations|Modestly Hot Homsar]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Stick]]/Big Ol' Tree, [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Athletic Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 23, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:54

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}, {{dvd|Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD|notitle=true}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Check your email and check your email. ''{His voice is looped with [[#Real-World References|another rhythm]]}'' Check your email and check your email.  ''{He stops singing and presses Enter.}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
I just wondering, if you had a chance 
to make your town different, what 
would you do? 
 
Sincerley 
Steven WV</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "WV" as "Wolksvagen", and deliberately mispronounces "sincerley" to reflect its misspelling.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pour hot soup in Homestar's eyes, eh, Steven? That sounds like a pretty good- ''{He stops typing.}'' wait... what'd your email say again?

''{Strong Bad presses a key, and the email appears again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling reading sounds}'' Oh. Oh-ho! Sorry.

''{Strong Bad presses a key, and starts the reply again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Make the town different, eh, Steven? ''{He breaks into song.}'' Weeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhllllllll,—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' —the Poopsmith, he could talk,

'''THE POOPSMITH:''' ''{in a surprisingly deep voice}'' Hello!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And Marzipan would rock, and The Stick would be this big ol' tree that'd try to eat everyone except The Cheat and me.

'''STRONG MAD:''' AND ME!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{speaking}'' We'll see.

''{Strong Mad shows an upset expression}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' And The King of Town would be underground in a box filled up with peas...

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I hate peas!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Bubs would give away flamethrowers that shoot chocolate hundred-dollar bills...

'''BUBS:''' Imitation chocolate!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And my stupid baby brother would have been born with horns and a tail...

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{sadly}'' I'm evil.

'''STRONG BAD:''' And Coach Z would wear this cool jacket.

'''COACH Z:''' Check it out, yo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And Homestar just couldn't hack it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I quit!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And Pom Pom wouldn't change at all, 'cept he'd look like an ABA basketball.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{softly}'' Two, three, four.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' And this little weirdo... would be a modestly hot girl to help me through the hard times. You know, the kind that are only sorta hot so they don't mess around with other guys.

'''MODESTLY HOT HOMSAR''': ''{in Homsar's voice}'' DaAaAa, I'm forever your girl!

''{A crowd cheers for a moment. Cut to the Computer Room where Strong Bad is standing on his stool. The cheering continues for a few seconds.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thank you! Thank you! All right! This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album. It's called—

''{Cut to Strong Sad standing to the right of the computer desk. He is dressed in a light blue tunic and is wearing horns and a tail.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey, Strong Bad—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off screen}'' WHOA! Can it be true?

''{Cut to a wide shot showing both Strong Bad and Strong Sad. Strong Bad is still standing on his stool.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar Runner called it quits? The King of Town, pea-buried alive?! The Poopsmith speaketh?!?

'''STRONG SAD:''' No... Calm down, spaz! I'm going to the ''Clash of the Titans'' con, dressed up as Calibos, remember? I was just gonna ask if you still wanted that bust of Bubo.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, um. Right. Of course. ''{clears throat, then speaks quietly and quickly}'' Yeah, I still want the bust of Bubo.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Okay, bye, weirdo. What are you standing on that stool for anyway?

'''STRONG BAD:''' For your information, I was ''{short pause}'' checking on the lights, Strong Sad. We got that recessed lighting, y'know. Yup, everything looks great.

''{Cut back to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, things would be different alright. Though I'm a little disappointed in what I came up with for Homsar. Modestly hot my eye! I think my imagination's broke. ''{stops typing}'' Lemme try and think up the ''{starts typing again}'' Best Thing Ever. Umm... Beef... stew... ''{types this as just "Best thing ever: Beef stew."}'' Yup it's busted alright. I'm gonna go... place. ''{gets up and walks away}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Marzipanmohawk.PNG|thumb|Marzipan's new 'do.]]
*The words "eh, Steven?" can be clicked (only the first time Strong Bad types them) to show a [[Lem Sportsinterviews|LEM]] drawing of "Eh. Steven." ([[Eh! Steve!]] in formal wear).
*Clicking on "place" at the end brings up a [[Made-up Places#Place|Place]] [[postcard]] featuring [[Monkey D]] and the skyline of Seattle, Washington. It reads: "Greetings from PLACE."
*Click to the right of "back" at the end to download the song. A credit below the download links reads "lyrics by TBC music by TMBG".
*Hidden behind Marzipan's yellow hair, if viewed in a [[Wikipedia:decompiler|decompiler]], there is another hairstyle — a bright pink spiked mohawk.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
* The music for "Different Town" was performed by [[They Might Be Giants]] especially for [[homestarrunner.com]]. However, the lyrics were written by [[The Brothers Chaps]].
*Although Strong Bad's imagination is by no means part of continuity, this is the first time that the Poopsmith speaks (if you ignore [[The King of Town DVD Storyboards]] and the hiss in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]).
*If you look closely in [[Pom Pom, Too]] toon, you can see an [[ABA Basketball]] Pom.
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#BAAL|BAAL]]".
*This toon has [[nondescript nouns]] ("Place").
*This is the first time since [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] that Homestar is seen in his normal attire but without his star.
*[[Appearances By All 12 Main Characters|All of the main characters appear]] in this email.

===Remarks===
*Though the Big Ol' Tree moves, its shadow does not.
*When Strong Bad is "checking the lights" he should be looking to his right because according to the shadows the light comes from his right.
*During the Homsar segment, Strong Bad pantomimes finger-snapping, which is something he should not be able to do while wearing [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?|boxing gloves]].
*Strong Bad's count-off tempo for the section about Homsar does not match the tempo of the following music.

===Goofs===
*The outlet disappears when Strong Sad appears.
*The link to the download comes up over top the Place postcard.

===Inside References===
*The postcard from PLACE in the Easter egg is a reference to Strong Bad's postcards from destinations such as OVER THERE in the email [[vacation]].
*The [[Trading Card Games|trading card]] Pom Pom was pictured on has the same design as the one featuring [[The Deke]] in [[autobiography]].
*Strong Bad's voice [[Overlapping Voices|overlaps]] during the second line of his [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email song]].

*Wolksvagen is a [[Spoonerisms|spoonerism]].

===Real-World References===
*The rhythm of Strong Bad's email song is taken from the They Might Be Giants song "[[TMBW:Ana Ng|Ana Ng]]" – the first time is the same as the rhythm part under the verse, and the second time is this and the vocal rhythm mixed together.
*The "[[Wikipedia:American Basketball Association|ABA]] Basketball" is indeed red, white, and blue instead of the [[Wikipedia:National Basketball Association|NBA]] orange.
*"Bubo" was the name of the clockwork owl in the film ''[[IMDB:tt0082186|Clash Of The Titans]]'', later featured as an avatar on [[Strong Sad's Lament]]. Strong Sad was dressed as Calibos, the villain of that movie. Both Bubo and Calibos were [[Stop Motion|animated]] by [[Wikipedia:Ray Harryhausen|Ray Harryhausen]], whose work was also referenced in [[redesign]].
*"Wolksvagen" is a play on words of the German automobile manufacturer: [[Wikipedia:Volkswagen|Volkswagen]]. The funny pronunciation comes from the fact that the two letters are reversed from the normal abbreviation, VW. In German, the name is pronounced "'''F'''olks'''v'''agen".
*The board behind Homestar says "[[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]]" and "DeBry," which is a parody of [[Wikipedia:DeVry University|DeVry University]].
*The guitar Marzipan is playing is [[Wikipedia:George Lynch (musician)|George Lynch's]] [http://www.philbrodieband.com/muso_george_lynch03.jpg "Mom"] guitar, the one he used during his years with the '80s metal band [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]].
*The "Marzipan" amps are a play on the ubiquitous [[Wikipedia:Marshall Amplification|Marshall Amps]], which feature similar styling and font.
*Marzipan's blond hairdo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Heart (band)|Heart]] guitarist [[Wikipedia:Nancy Wilson (guitarist)|Nancy Wilson]].
*Strong Bad's outfit during the "And this little weirdo" sequence is similar to outfits worn by many glam-rock musicians, such as [[Wikipedia:Led Zeppelin|Led Zeppelin's]] [[Wikipedia:Robert Plant|Robert Plant]] and [[Wikipedia:Queen (band)|Queen's]] [[Wikipedia:Freddie Mercury|Freddie Mercury]].
*Homsar says "I'm forever your girl," a quote from the 1989 song and album titled "[http://www.lyricsdepot.com/paula-abdul/forever-your-girl.html Forever Your Girl]" by [[Wikipedia:Paula Abdul|Paula Abdul]].

===Fast Forward===
*Homestar's eyes will again be threatened with hot soup in [[New Boots]], this time by The Cheat.
*Strong Bad's statement that they have recessed lighting is confirmed in [[pop-up]] when Strong Bad jumps to the ceiling.
*Marzipan actually does end up playing rock music when she starts the band [[Cool Tapes]] and in the musical short [[One Two, One Two]]. The same backgroud is even used in Cool Tapes.
*A screenshot of Modestly Hot Homsar is shown again in the "[[Discount Flashback Warehouse]]" Easter egg in [[flashback]].
*Strong Bad would once again don the miner's helmet in [[Ever and More!]].
*30 emails later, Strong Bad would have no trouble thinking of the [[best thing]] ever: the [[Limozeen]] cartoon show.
*The box of peas the King of Town was buried in is found underneath Strong Badia in [[buried]].
*The Poopsmith breaks his vow of silence in [[email thunder]].

== DVD Version ==
*The Eh! Steven Easter egg is viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.
*The download link for Different Town has been disabled for obvious reasons.
*To view the Place postcard, select the hidden Strong Bad logo at the bottom left of the Compy screen at the end of the video.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary, as well as the ''original'' version of the Different Town song, as sung by John Linnell. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Another commentary.

'''MIKE:''' This is a commentary- My name is Mike Chapman. This is my younger brother Matt, he's three years younger than me.

'''MATT:''' That's all true.

'''MIKE:''' Uh, so, this commentary track- uh, we're going to allow John Linnell of They Might Be Giants- we're gonna put on his original track. They co-wrote the song for this e-mail, umm...

'''MATT:''' -did all the music, I just sent an email with some of the words-

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' You gave them the words...

'''MATT:''' -and a couple of notes and that- that's it.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' They ''{unintelligible}''. So yeah, this is what we're going to play the audio for the, um—

'''MATT:''' ''{quickly}'' Here it comes!

''{The Different Town music track is played, with [[They Might Be Giants|John Linnell]] singing Strong Bad's lines (no other character's lines are said, with the exception of the "girl" part of Homsar's line.)}''

'''MATT:''' I think I used a Miss Georgia, or Miss California, or something picture, for a reference for the hot Homsar.

'''MIKE:''' Probably Miss Georgia.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, you think so?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. She's pretty hot.

'''MATT:''' So, we liked ''{unintelligible}'' Clash of the Titans a lot.

'''MIKE:''' True. It, uh, scared me when I was little.

'''MATT:''' And...

'''MIKE:''' And I like the special effects.

'''MATT:''' And it delights you in your old age.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' It does.

'''MATT:''' Bubo, of course, was the R2-D2 of Clash of The Titans.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah, the robotic owl.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. It was made- it was clockwork, Mike, ''{unintelligible}'' there was no robotics back then. The gods had a mastery of clockworks, though.

'''MIKE:''' Gears.

'''MATT:''' Gears of...shimmies. Uh, Manhunter of New York, I believe, is in the box- the diskbox there.

'''MIKE:''' ''Great'' game.

'''MATT:''' It's a great game. Speaking of terribly awkward graphics. ''{Mike laughs}'' That's something else that scared me when I was younger and delights me in my old age, is Manhunter of New York.

'''MIKE:''' Eyeballs. Flying eyeballs.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Orbs.

'''MIKE:''' Orbs. Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Poor guy.

===Goofs===
*Matt incorrectly identifies the game in the [[Floppy Disk Container]] as "Manhunter of New York." It is actually "BAAL." The game "Manhunter of New York" appeared in the Floppy Disk container in [[Arcade Game]] and [[caper]].

== See Also ==
*The [[Different Town Visuals|visuals]] that occur during the song.
*This Might Be A Wiki: [[tmbw:Different Town|Different Town]]

==External Links==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|99|youtube=j4-kP8Ps8ys}}
*download the song: [[HR:songs/differentown.zip|Win]] [[HR:songs/differentown.sit|Mac]]

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Talk:army

Geonightman — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 21:45:05 GMT

Geonightman: /**/Possible Real-World Reference

== Format ==
This page does not follow the format at all. Please look at [[Strong Bad Email|emails one through twenty-two]] for examples. And take a look at the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=TranscriptionStandards TranscriptionStandards] page. Please. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:Holy crap!!!!
:I was just trying to get it to look like PomPom email. I didnt relize how diffrent the page looks in the normal skin. (I had a diffrent skin up to speed up page loading on my old computer.) I'll get to work fixing it right away. -James

::Man, thanks for catching all those, Tom. This is a lot of work. -- [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 11:09, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

:::Hey, I didn't catch them all. I left some for you guys. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:23, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

::::Man, I thought I'd cleaned up most of the problems with it, but it looks like there were plenty more. Page formatting can be a pain. :-P --[[User:James|James]]

:Is it normal for the Cheat's dialogue to be spelled out? Also, Firebert's action figure isn't listed as an Inside Reference to [[action figure]], or as a fast-forward to [[Cheat Commandos]], just explained under Easter Eggs. Is there a non-redundant way to do this? --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:18, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Removed fun fact ==
I removed this fun fact:

*Pay close attention when the [[Homestarmy]] arrives in Strong Badia. Homsar just wobbles off!

Because this had already been acknowledged in the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Date Fun Fact ==
Is the fun fact

*This email was added on January 5, 2004

''really'' needed? We have the Updates section for the dates, so why should we have it here? --[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User_Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

no-[[user:Jhonka|Jhonka]]

== Hold the Line! ==
What's that supposed to mean?

Strong Sad is trying to to keep the the [[Homestarmy]] from retreating so that the Strongbadians won't win the "battle". This kind of line is common in war movies. --[[User:Stong Bad|Stong Bad]] 17:19, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Is that line from any particular movie we could reference? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 14:33, 29 Sept 2005 (UTC)

:Please note what they say about it in the DVD Commentary, TaranchulaVamp. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]]
::I've heard it a ''lot'', so I dont think its from a particular movie. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

"Hold the Line" is also a song by [[Wikipedia:Toto (band)|Toto]] that enjoyed some popularity -- I mention it here because I think there's absolutely no relation at all.

== Do you HAS what it takes? ==

When Homestar says "Do you ''has'' what it takes...?" during his little recruitment speech (with particular emphasis on the "has"), I'd always thought that that was a Yellow Dellow reference. At one point in The Yellow Dellow, Homestar says "I think I has the solution!" This incorrect choice of words is mentioned by Strong Sad in the DVD commentary. I'd always heard Homestar's "Do you has what it takes...?" to be a reference to that (replacing "have" with "has").--[[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 08:37, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Hankatollah? ==

This is the stuff of which bad Real World References are made, but for that reason I was kind of surprised not to find anything in the history speculating that "Hankatola" is a reference to the Islamic title [[Wikipedia:Ayatollah|Ayatollah]]. Given the militaristic them of this email and current global events, this would be somewhat interesting. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:18, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Tape rewind noise ==

It's interesting to note that Strong Sad ''didn't'' forget to rewind. The rewind noise is clearly audible after the second "YEAH!". - [[User:SoulSkorpion|SoulSkorpion]] 10:14, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, and it is indeed [[army#Goofs|noted]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:20, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

== Shhh... Strong Sad's Asleep ==
To me, this email sounds a bit quieter than all of the others. I have done a comparison many times and still found this to be true. Does anyone else notice this? {{User:The_Coachsmith/sig}} 21:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== Skirt? ==
In the transcript, it states that Homestar says "...trade in that skirt you're wearing." Am I the only one who thinks he says "scrap" instead of "skirt?" Anybody? {{User:The_Coachsmith/sig}} 21:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:Uh... yes. He quite definately says skirt. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 19:42, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::This dosen't have to do whith anything, but do you think Homestar said "skirt" instead of "pants" Beacause his shirt looks like a skirt?
- {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 16:54, 21 January 2007
:::No, the implication is that anyone not willing to join his army must wear a skirt, or be not masculine enough. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:53, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

== Bennedetto ==

In the DVD commentary they say Frank's a Presto air popper, so it's more likely he's a Presto 04820 PopLite Popcorn Maker then a West Bend 01568 Popcorn Maker. The [http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-review-E38-1DE3023B-3A4906CE-prod4 Presto] has the orange top and everything.

But more importantly, should this be moved to Frank's character page? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 19:19, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:With no further comments, it's been changed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

== collin l homestar ==

yea yea i know it is just colonel pronounced phonetically, but still, are there any other references to collin l or homestar having another ( not different ) name {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strongsad rewind goof ==

Should there be some reference to the fact that mike and matt actually mentioned the mistake they had made by putting the extra rewind sound in their comentary? [[User:G man yo|G man yo]] 10:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I'd support it, but I want to know if there's any precedent. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Dr. Strangelove ==

General Ripper belonged to the U.S. Air Force (not the Army), but I failed at changing this article.

:Thanks for that! I changed it in the article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia Time ==

Should any of you guys/users know that the Trivia Time cookie jar is Frank's pet? -{{User:Viklas/sig}} 12:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:[[army#Easter_Egg_Commentary]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

== Possible LOTR Reference ==

Wasn't there a line in ''Lord of the Rings'' that went something like "Gondor has no king and needs no king"? It was the first thing I thought of when I heard "Strongbadia has no army and needs no army". Please gimme some feedback as to the acceptability of this reference. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the line in this email is, "Does Strong Badia have an army? Strong Badia needs no army, Hankatola." So they're not similar enough to be a reference. Even if they were more similar, it would probably be too much of a stretch anyway. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Oh, and if you change your mind... ==

I always thought Homestar said, "Oh, and if you change your mind, ''you wanna trade in that skirt you're wearing for a nice pair of camos?''", something like that. Yet I didn't bother editing the transcript. Any thoughts about this? --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 15:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== fwa bwenbwteo? ==

Sounds like Homestar's saying "Fwank Bwentendo" to me.? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:where are you referring to? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::After he [[Pseudocharacters|supposedly]] [[death|dies]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 19:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Light Foot Skirt? ==
I Think That The "Trade In That Skirt Your Wearing"And The Gorden Light Foot Part May be a refrence to the gorden highlanders,a high land regiment in the british army that wore kilts(Some people call kilts skirts).--[[User:99.224.229.97|99.224.229.97]] 20:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:Nah, it's definitely likely the way it already is: a reference to a line in a song by Gordon Lightfoot. And the skirt line is just a way of mocking Strong Bad's manliness to try and get him to change sides. An "If you're not with us, you're a girly-girl!" kind of thing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, that'd be a stretch. Gordon Lightfoot is definitely the reference here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

== Oh I see ==

I agree with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=army&curid=813&diff=559910&oldid=559851&rcid=517375&hrwiki_mwiki6_session=7310525522fe343d21d0616efdd13164 this edit] (which got reverted). Anybody else got an opinion?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. There's no "s" sound in there, so it's "Oh, I see." {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely "oh". "So" doesn't even really make sense in that context. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I heard an "s" sound in it, and the subtitles say "so". That's why I reverted it. {{User:Hrjcm/sig}} 23:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Subtitles are more often than not based on the transcript. Always refer to the source when evaluating transcription errors. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

== Colonel ==

Not article-worthy, but Marina Orlova, the philology expert on YouTube, did a video which explains the difference in spelling and pronunciation of "colonel" - seems Homestar is using the original pronunciation! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKFLrknvoG4] {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== Little Albert ==

In the commentary, Matt mentions that one of the commando names they came up with (but never used) was "Little Albert". Could this be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Little Albert experiment|this psychological experiment]]? I mean, there isn't any similarity other than the name, but as far as I know it's a pretty famous experiment, one that anyone who's taken a Psychology class would have heard of, and that's what I thought of when I read it. - [[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 16:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Possible Real-World Reference ==

It is not set in stone, but do you think it is possible that Homestar calling, The Cheat, a "Yellow Dog" may be a reference to the 1988 Chevy Chase film "Funny Farm"? In it his dog's name is "Yellow Dog".

Talk:Bands in Baddest of the Bands

Geonightman — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:47:12 GMT

Geonightman: /* Ö */

== Two-O-Duo Redux ==

I just noticed: the Two-O-Duo originated in [[cheatday]]! That's what's on the record in the Easter egg! So it looks like only PomStar and DÖI are specific to BotB. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
: And once again, my stunning revelation is already visible on a relevant page. Gotta check these things more often. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, Pomstar's name is a lot like Marzistar's, so maybe it's only DOI (which the player makes up) with the BOTB-only name. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 13:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::PomStar is similar to Marzistar only in the sense that both were created by merging half of one character's name with half of another, and Homestar was one of the characters in both. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 13:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Images==
Would these 4 ([http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/cooltapes-logo.png], [http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/two-o-duo-logo.png], [http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/pomstar-logo.png] and [http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/doi-logo.png]) images from [http://www.baddestofthebands.com baddestofthebands.com] work well on this page, or would it be better to take a screen from each of the stages? {{User:ThePizz/sig}} 18:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Puzzle Spoiler ==

Should all the parts describing the puzzle solutions be put in spoiler tags, or the article given some kind of disclaimer?

== ÖMG ==

Any one else think that the umlauts over the O in DÖI is a reference to the band Blue Öyster Cult? Not only are they both 3 word long bands, and not only do they both have a similar O. But even one of the KOT's (KÖT?) words you chance choose IS oyster. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bands in Baddest of the Bands

Geonightman — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:06:54 GMT

Geonightman: /**/Ö

== Two-O-Duo Redux ==

I just noticed: the Two-O-Duo originated in [[cheatday]]! That's what's on the record in the Easter egg! So it looks like only PomStar and DÖI are specific to BotB. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
: And once again, my stunning revelation is already visible on a relevant page. Gotta check these things more often. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, Pomstar's name is a lot like Marzistar's, so maybe it's only DOI (which the player makes up) with the BOTB-only name. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 13:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::PomStar is similar to Marzistar only in the sense that both were created by merging half of one character's name with half of another, and Homestar was one of the characters in both. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 13:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Images==
Would these 4 ([http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/cooltapes-logo.png], [http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/two-o-duo-logo.png], [http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/pomstar-logo.png] and [http://www.baddestofthebands.com/images/doi-logo.png]) images from [http://www.baddestofthebands.com baddestofthebands.com] work well on this page, or would it be better to take a screen from each of the stages? {{User:ThePizz/sig}} 18:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Puzzle Spoiler ==

Should all the parts describing the puzzle solutions be put in spoiler tags, or the article given some kind of disclaimer?

== Ö ==

Any one else think that the umlauts over the O in DÖI is a reference to the band Blue Öyster Cult? Not only are they both 3 word long bands, and not only do they both have a similar O. But even one of the KOT's (KÖT?) words you chance choose IS oyster.

Game Sightings

Geonightman — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:43:58 GMT

Geonightman:

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== ''[[Wikipedia:Chzo Mythos|7 Days a Skeptic]]'' ==
*In the special edition of ''7 Days a Skeptic'', an unknown character types 'pasta sauce' into the computer to bring up the main menu. Entering the same phrase into the computer in the Captain's quarters brings up an email to Strong Bad, asking him how he types with his boxing gloves on.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Adventure Quest|Adventure Quest]]'' ==
*In the free flash RPG ''[http://www.battleon.com Adventure Quest]'', occasionally when a Guardian summons the Guardian Dragon, the dragon will say: "BURNINATE!!! (do not sue us please)"
*Also, there was a Homestar Runner chat icon in the forum that you could choose but it has been removed.
*On Mogloween 2006, one of the randomly generated names for the houses was [[Trogdor|Trogdor]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Age of Empires III|Age of Empires III]]'' ==
When you enter the cheat code 'sooo good' in single player, each unit that is killed will display a Teen-Girl-Squad-like death, which varies based on the type of unit that killed them. MUSKETEER'ED! and JANNISSARY'ED! are some examples.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Amazing Island|Amazing Island]]'' ==
On page 9/10 of the [http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-instructions-owner-manual/SEGA/AMAZING%20ISLAND-_E manual], there are instructions on creating a new character. Whoever took the picture had named his character Homestar.

== ''[[Wikipedia:American McGee's Grimm|American McGee's Grimm]]'' ==
One of the loading screen messages is "Ken loves Trogdor"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Backyard Skateboarding|Backyard Skateboarding: Game of the Year Edition]]'' ==
On the Customize Skater option, one shirt that is choosable is titled "Star Runner"; it is a red shirt with a white star.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator|Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator]]'' ==
*In the [http://www.grundislavgames.com/bj/ third game] in the series, when looking at a hut it is described as "A small thatched-roof cottage, suitable for burnination."

*In the [http://www.grundislavgames.com/bj/ first game], you have access to a computer which is identical to the Compy 386.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Cardmaster Conflict|Cardmaster Conflict]]'' ==
In the free online trading card game [http://cardmasterconflict.com/cmc/ Cardmaster Conflict], there is an avatar part called the "Gotta Have Blue Hair", which looks like Stinkoman's hair.

== ''Chain of Fire'' ==
The intro of level 25 tells the player "Time to [[burninate]]!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Counter-Strike|Counter-Strike]]'' ==
''Counter-Strike'' servers with AdminMod installed occasionally display messages "(username) was burninated by Trogdor, er by (username)" and "Headshot! For good, and for AWESOME!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Crash Tag Team Racing|Crash Tag Team Racing]]'' ==
While racing, Crunch might say, "I burninated that chump!" and "Haha! Your car asplode!"

While racing, Pasadena O'Possum might say, "Hey! This ain't a monster truck rally! That's SUNDAY SUNDAY SOMEDAY!!".

Several Die-O-Ramas have titles similar to "ARROWED!" from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] and/or [[comic]]. Among them are "SHARKED!", "CROSSBOWED!", "EXPLODEDED!"[[#CTTR_1|[1]]], "LIQUIDATED" and "JAWED!".

# "Explodeded" has an extra "ed" at the end, which refers to the 'D! from TGS. The font used for the Die-O-Ramas didn't have an apostrophe, so this was used instead.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Custom Robo|Custom Robo]]'' ==
*Partway through the American version of the game, there is a quiz on basic game knowledge. One of the (wrong) answers to a multiple-choice question is "Parts Burninator".
*There is also a gun called the "Homing Star"

== ''Cyborg Livestock Outer Space'' ==
If you defeat the alien mothership from Shockwave's [http://www.shockwave.com/sw/content/cyborglivestock Cyborg Livestock from Outer Space], the end text says that the ship "asplode," just as your head does in the game [[StrongBadZone]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Derby Owner's Club|Derby Owner's Club]]'' ==
One of the default sires' name is "Homestar Runner".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Diner Dash: Flo On The Go|Diner Dash: Flo on the Go]]'' ==
[[Image:Diner dash 3 - everybody to the limit.png|thumb|This diner's going to the moooooooooon!]]
One of the secret levels is titled [[Everybody to the Limit]]. The description is: "Can you handle everything and the kitchen sink? This one's [[personal favorites|going to the moon]]!!"
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== ''[[Wikipedia:Disney's Toontown Online|Disney's Toontown Online]]'' ==
One of the names you can name your Toon is [[Fat Dudley]].
During the monologue preceding the toontask for shutting down a sellbot factory, The store owner, Coach Zucchini, says that the toon can refer to him as [[Coach Z]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Dragon Fable|Dragon Fable]]'' ==
In one of the Sneevil Box Quests, you kill a sneevil and it gives you a random password. One of these passwords is "Burninate", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

Also, in the blacksmithing skill mini-game, Yulgar may ask you to craft such items as "Moist Letter Opener of Burninating."

One of the Warrior sayings is "[[Double Deuce|Douuuuuuuuble Deuce!]]"

In the Design Notes for May 2nd, 2008, the game programmer Rolith complains that "Nobody Likes his style..." This is a possible reference to [[Nebulon]].

During Mogloween '09 (the game's halloween event), an unlockable mask, "Big Bad Luchadore Mask" is a pretty clear shout out to [[Strong Bad]]'s face.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Everbound|Everbound]]'' ==
This homemade parody of ''Everquest'', found at Albinoblacksheep.com, allows one of the characters to summon Trogdor the Burninator.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Everquest|Everquest]]'' ==
In the zone Inktu'ta, The Unmasked Chapel, there is a monster called "Cursecaller Fhqwhgads". You can see a picture of it [http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=18067 here].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel|Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel]]'' ==
Listed in the credits, listed under "SPECIAL THANKS," is "SB/HSR".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fat Princess|Fat Princess]]'' ==
In the in-game manual, page five, one of the instruction blips reads: "Press (square) to burninate with fireballs". An AI Character name is also called "Marsy Pants".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls|Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls]]'' ==
*A man in Hellfire Chasm says "This is private property. Trespassers will be burninated.".
*In Whisperwind Cove one of the items you obtain in one of the floors from a dwarf is called 'Witches Brew"
**Both these areas were exclusively for the GBA version of the games, and were not on the original copies for the NES, or in the PlayStation remake Final Fantasy Origins on which Dawn of Souls is based.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fortress Forever| Fortress Forever]]'' ==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Q5gzcvXp4 This preview] mentions "Burninating the Players."

== ''[http://www.jmtb02.com/flash/firestorm.htm Four Second Firestorm]'' ==
*One of the minigames is "Don't [[A Splode]]", which involves a car dodging boxes of explosives.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Full Auto 2|Full Auto 2: Battlelines]]'' ==
*One of the dragon decals players can put on their cars in the PSP version is called "Burninator".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Galactic Civilizations 2: Dread Lords|Galactic Civilizations 2: Dread Lords]]'' ==
In the custom race options one of the custom race icons looks suspiciously like an upside down [[Strong Bad]]. [http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6596/racelogo194vw.png]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Garry's Mod|Garry's Mod]]'' ==

In one of the maps, rp_richland, in one of the houses, there appears to be a kid's room. On one of the walls is a crayon drawing of [[Trogdor]] burninating some people, as well as a cloud (which also has a single beefy arm) throwing a lightning bolt. [http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4298/trogdorgmod.png]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde|Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde]]'' ==
In the credits of this game, it says "Additional Thanks To: Strong Bad."

== ''[[Wikipedia:Guild Wars|Guild Wars]]'' ==
*As an Elementalist (a mage), one can acquire spells called "[http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Professions.Detail&id=195 Mark of Rodgort]" and "[http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Professions.Detail&id=201 Rodgort's Invocation]." Both spells cause a condition in which the target catches on fire. Rodgort spelled backwards is Trogdor.
*In the latest update, one can go on a quest to bring an evil Stone Summit dwarf a [[Cold One]], which you create by adding ice to a Warm One.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero II|Guitar Hero II]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s|Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s]]'' ==
(See main article: [[Guitar Hero]])

== ''[[Wikipedia:Halo 3|Halo 3]]'' ==
*When you turn on the "I Would Have Been Your Daddy" skull, one of the things a marine would say while dying is "Life... flashing... before my eyes... Johnson... you still owe me 5 bucks..." which may be a reference to the SBEmail [[army]].
*In the level Foundry, in random piles of trash there are Chinese boxes with what appears to be Trogdor the Burninator.

== ''[http://www.lawlolawl.com/games/idontevenknow.phpI I Don't Even Know]'' ==
One minigame, entitled "HOW JOO MAKE A'SPLODE?", requires you to activate a bomb.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Imagine: Babysitter|Imagine: Babysitter]]'' ==
One of the items you can purchase at the store is the [[Original Book]].

== ''Jack Russell'' ==
In this flash game by Kenney Altera, the in-game instructions warn that if the protagonist dog touches a mine, he will [[StrongBadZone| A SPLODE]]! The game can be found [http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/289115 here] at [http://newgrounds.com Newgrounds].

== ''Jet Set Emily: Baby On The Go'' ==
In this game for the ZX Spectrum, one of the screens is entitled "homestarrunner.com" and resembles Homestar's head. (This screen only appears in the revision and later versions; earlier versions had a screen advertising irma.s5.com, an all-but-defunct Garfield site.) Incidentally, this game was designed by TheLazenby, a member of the Homestarrunner.net and Socks and Vinegar forums; the newest and final version, although not designed by TheLazenby, still retains this screen. (However, in the new version, a secret teleporter is said to be hidden somewhere in Homestar's head.)

==[[Wikipedia:John Woo Presents Stranglehold| John Woo Presents Stranglehold]]==
In the Xbox 360 version of the game, an Achievment can be unlocked called "Asplosion", which is similar to [[Vector Strong Bad|Vector Strong Bad's]] "Asplode."

== [[Wikipedia:Kingdom Hearts II|Kingdom Hearts II]] ==
*When fighting the Hydra in the Colosseum, a reaction called Urninator will be available. Urninator is one letter off from Burninator.
* In the BradyGames strategy guide for the game, on page 28, there is a tipbox labeled "[[Everybody to the Limit]]", a reference to the song of the same name.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Kingdom of Loathing|The Kingdom of Loathing]]'' ==
[[Image:Marziskull.PNG|thumb|You're not a broom?!]]
*One of the ways to attack someone in Player vs. Player is to "Burninate".
*In The Barrel full of Barrels, if you break open an exploding barrel, the result text tells you "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Barrel_full_of_Barrels#Your_Barrel_A_Splode Your Barrel A Splode], hurting you. Badly".
*In the Strange Leaflet, an area inspired by old text-based adventure games, you can enter in "[[Dennis]]" to hear that "You cannot go DENNIS from here."
*In the chat function, the chat command '/[[50 emails|baleet]] username' carries out the same effect as '/ignore username'.
*The game contains an item, [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Marzipan_skull Marzipan skull], which contains a reference to [[Marzipan|the character Marzipan]] and the [[Wikipedia:Marzipan|food of the same name]] in the description.
*The game also contains a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Mr._Balloon Mr. Balloon] item, the description of which refers to Strong Bad's song about "the High Voice Crew" from [[helium]].
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Pirate_zombie_robot_head pirate zombie robot head] contains the text "Must... fight... [[jibblies]]!" – a quote from [[More Fan Costumes]].
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Skewered_jumbo_olive skewered jumbo olive] says it has been "[[TROGDOR!|sworded]]".
*The descriptions for the eXtreme meat [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/EXtreme_meat_staff staff], [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/EXtreme_meat_sword sword], and [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php//EXtreme_meat_crossbow crossbow] say the respective weapon is "[[Everybody to the Limit|to the limit]]".
*The filename of the "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/100_Pound_Load 100 Pound Load]" Trophy is [[Heavy Lourde|heavy_lourde.gif]].
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hey%2C_baby._Wanna_wrestle%3F adventures] in a drunken stupor has the text "You buffoon. You carpetbagger. She gives you whatfor", a variant on a quote from [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] in [[50 emails]].
*Two of the combat messages from the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Spirit_Hobo spirit hobo] refer to [[Senor Cardgage]] - the message about "low rates and percent signs" is similar to a quote from [[Senor Mortgage]], and the message about a girl named Helvetica is based on [[garage sale]], when Senor Cardgage refers to Strong Sad by that name.
*There have been several references to "[[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]]" throughout the game:
**When spectating on the KWE wrestling matches in the KWE chatroom, the announcer has introduced Roo (who is basically a kangaroo wearing boxing gloves) with "How the heck does he karate-chop with boxing gloves on?"
**Giving a weapon to [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Roo Roo] in the KWE Back Room results in the message, ". . . holding this with boxing gloves will be the greatest challenge I have faced since that time I tried to type!"
**One of the Fun Facts on [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Roo_trading_card Roo's trading card] reads "Roo never takes off his boxing gloves! It's a good thing he doesn't do much typing!"
**When fighting [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Box The Box], one of the attack messages reads "It boxes your ears. How does it box with typing gloves on?"
**When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Raging_bull raging bull], one of the miss messages says, "He prepares to pummel you, but you confuse him by asking how he can do that with boxing gloves on."
**The entry for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Boxing_glove boxing glove] reads "How do I type with these things on? The better question is how will you repeat that question after I knock all your teeth out?"
*The verb "Arrow[['d]]" has been ocassionally used in the game:
**In The Hidden Temple, one of the events is entitled "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Arrowed%21 Arrowed!]".
**One of the gambling events in the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Money_Making_Game Money Making Game] involves shooting an arrow into a papaya à la William Tell. If you hit the papaya, it is said to be "arrow'd".
**One of the Valentine's Day gifts is an [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Arrow%27d_heart_balloon arrow'd heart balloon].
*One of the KWE wrestlers, [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Chori_Zo "Chori Zo"], has "[[Type|Lady-type]]" for her gender in the KWE Fact Book.
*When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Scary_pirate_(cursed) scary pirate], one of the miss messages says, "He moans "brrraaaiiiaaarrrnns!" and starts to gnaw on your skull, but does a pretty lousy [[A Jorb Well Done|jeorb]]."
*When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Mayonnaise_wasp mayonnaise wasp], one of the miss messages says, "It tries to coat you with nasty mayonnaise, but you counter with a [[funny|ketchup bomb]]."
*The image of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Star_shirt star shirt] resembles [[Homestar Runner|Homestar Runner's]] shirt.
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Warehouse_of_Eternal_Stench stench resistance tests] in the Daily Dungeon contains the text "or as I like to call it, '[[Rotten Egglünd|Rotten Eggland]]'."
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Night_Gallery spooky resistance tests] in the Daily Dungeon uses the phrase "[[Jibblies|the jibblies]]".
*Before [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_LAAAAME_Observatory The LAAAAME Observatory] was destroyed by part of a comet, one of the galaxies you could observe was called, "Distant Galaxy NGC-404." The filename of the image was, [[404'd|"404d.gif"]].
*If the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Scroll_of_ancient_forbidden_unspeakable_evil Scroll of ancient forbidden unspeakable evil] causes hot damage to you, the game says, "These things are bad for you", perhaps referring to Homestar's line from [[invisibility]].
*Sometimes, when you consume a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fancy_but_probably_evil_chocolate Fancy but probably evil chocolate], it can be "filled with some sort of witch's brew, or perhaps witch's brüe", referring to both [[Witch's Brew]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Starting June 25, 2007, when you use the new item [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Black_Body%E2%84%A2_spray Black Body Spray] it states that "You feel moxious and dangerous, but it's hard to operate when everyone is trying to get [[all up ons]]."
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fire-breathing_duck Fire-breathing duck] contains the line "the important thing is that somebody gets this freakin' duck away from you," a reference to [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] and [[Main Page 13]].
*While fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/War_Hippy_Airborne_Commander War Hippy Airborne Commander], one may get the effect "All Covered in [[Whatsit]]".
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fire fire] item mentions it could be used for "blending in at a peasant convention," a reference to [[Trogdor]] burninating peasants and/or [[Rather Dashing]] having to make himself "on fire like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest]].
*In [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hobopolis Hobopolis], if you have Richard make nine scarehoboes at [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Richard%27s_Redoubt Richard's Redoubt], he says "I can do it! I can do it nine times!", a reference to the Strong Bad Emails [[crazy cartoon]] and [[virus]].
*Also in Hobopolis, some of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hobo_Names Hobo Names] are references.
**One of the titles for a Hot-aligned Hobo is [[Trogdor|Burninatin']].
**One of the occupations for a Stench-aligned Hobo is [[The Poopsmith]].
*The [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Slime-covered_speargun Slime-covered Speargun] mentions a [[Nunchuck gun]].
*The [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Thermos_of_brew Thermos of Brew] is stated in the description to be full of [[Witches' Brew]]. In addition, the consumption text contains the line "You dwink the witches' bwew", a reference to [[Homestar Runner |Homestar Runner's]] speech impediment.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Kings of Chaos|Kings of Chaos]]'' ==
When your army wins a battle, one of the phrases is "You burninated the enemy!" Likewise, when your army is beaten, one of the phrases is "The enemy burninated your army!"
[http://www.kingsofchaos.com Kings of Chaos].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Luminous Arc|Luminous Arc]]''==
One of the random monster names in Luminous Arc is "Asplode".

At one point, one character says "First off, I'm not human, I'm a dragon. Or a dragon-man. Or something."

== ''[[Wikipedia:Magical Starsign|Magical Starsign]]'' ==
When the main characters have reached the planet of light, Nova, one of the Dancing Fruit will at one point run by the party, screaming "A-splode!!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Matrix Wars|The Matrix Wars]]'' ==
If you successfully attack another realm in this RPG, "you burninated the enemy!" may appear at the end of the attack entry.
[http://www.thematrixwars.com]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Minecraft|Minecraft]]'' ==
One of the start-up messages is "Consummate V's!"
[http://www.minecraft.net]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Monday Night Combat|Monday Night Combat]]'' ==
One of the ProTags in the game you can unlock in Monday Night Combat is named "[[Trogdor|Burninator]]".

== ''NASCAR 2005: Chase For the Cup'' ==
One of the available designs for a Craftsman Truck paint scheme is called "A-splode".

== ''Nevermore Game'' ==
If you click on the i sign at the 4th scene, the Wheat Grows Sweet noise from [[Peasant's Quest]] will play.

Playing Location: http://www.stickpage.com/nevermoregameplay.shtml

== ''[[Wikipedia:Neverwinter Nights|Neverwinter Nights]]'' ==
New NWN patches have demo modules that illustrate creatures that have been added in those patches. These modules, created by Jay Watamaniuk, tend to be a bit silly in tone. The demo module included in v1.64, [http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/module_demo_landsea-puma.html Land Sea-Puma], has a signpost with following directions:
: North - Certain Dhoom
: East - Most Likely Dhoom
: West - Fair to Excellent Conditions for Dhoom
: Dennis - Ye Will Find Nothing of Yon Interest Here Aye

== ''[http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=24438 Nicholas' Weird Adventure 2]'' ==
*When Nicholas speaks to the guard in Morth's castle, he says, "I say there, monstrosity!", a clear reference to [[animal]].
*Later in the dialogue, the guard says back to Nicholas,"It serves you right, stupid pfargtl!", an obvious reference to [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]].
*Nicholas refers to a pile of refuse as [[whatsit]] in the sewer area.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Osu!|Osu!]]'' ==
*An Osu! player usernamed Agent Spin Here made a [http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7045 beatmap] of the song [[2 many knives]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Overlord II|Overlord II]]'' ==
*Upon finding the Red Minion Hive in the Nordberg Sanctuary, Gnarl comments that they are the "Burninators" of the Minion army.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Pac-Man World 3|Pac-Man World 3]]'' ==
Near the end of the Gogekko Tower level, Orson asks Pac-Man to hack into a computer, to which he replies, "It's not easy to [[How_Do_You_Type_With_Boxing_Gloves_On?|type with boxing gloves on]]."

== ''Pico's Cousin'' ==
When you beat the game, at the 'bonus features' section, click 'Useless info', listed there is 'Homestarruner.com rules.'

== ''Portal: Flash Version'' ==

On the AddictingGames page, at the end of the description of the game, it says "Do you has?"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Postal 2|Postal 2]]'' ==

In the ''Postal 2'' add-on ''A Week In Paradise'', in one minigame, when you look to your left, a piece of graffiti with the text "POMx2" and a pic of [[Pom Pom]] can be seen. When you go out of the Pom Pom corridor, a billboard above the Postal Dude displays the [[Homestar Runner]] "Seriously." [[wallpaper]]. Also, next to a clinic in the minigame, is the [[Homestarmy]] poster. Inside the clinic, the [[booOOMbox]] can be seen playing [[Everybody To The Limit]].

== [http://lrnj.com/ ''Project LRNJ''] ==
When your character dies in the game, death messages are displayed. One of them is [[A Splode|"Your head a splode!"]]

== [http://www.armorgames.com/games/retron_popup.html ''Retron''] ==
Losing all your lives displays the message [[A Splode|"YOUR SHIP A SPLODE"]].

== Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse ==
In episode 5, Chippy's bleeps are transcribed as [[Preeeeow|"preeyow"]].

== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/360579 Scribble 2!]'' ==
One of the levels, a right-pointing arrow, is entitled "[[Arrow'd]]".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shadow Complex|Shadow Complex]]'' ==
In the Xbox Live Arcade title ''Shadow Complex'', the [[Wikipedia:Xbox Live#Gamerscore|achievement]] for getting a certain number of headshots is called "My Head A-splode".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor|Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor]]'' ==
*At one point, the hero can tell someone that Yuzu Tanikawa is another character's [[lady fan|ladyfan]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4|Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4]]'' ==

*In one scene, Yosuke Hanamura says that something gives him the [[jibblies]].
*And during the sequence of events that leads to the True Ending, he also says that the case is over [[KOT's VOQPCS!|for reals this time]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Sims: Makin' Magic|The Sims: Makin' Magic Expansion Pack]]'' ==
[[Image:StinkSmasher 20X6.png|thumb|The StinkSmasher 20X6]]
One of the appliances is called "StinkSmasher [[20X6]]."

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Sims Bustin' Out|The Sims: Bustin' Out]]'' ==
One item in the game is called "The Furninator Deluxe", which is a reference to [[Trogdor]].

== ''Slacker 2'' ==
During the credits, zoom in on Slacker's nametag to see a picture of Homestar on it.
== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/533896 Sonic Annihilation]'' ==
*In the 3rd scene of this flash sonic says that eating someones guts is awesome but very [[jibblies|jibblie-giving]]
*in an older version of [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/524607 this show]Tails said [[holy crap]] as a reference to [[strong bad]]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Spore Creature Creator|Spore Creature Creator]]'' ==
A hidden picture of Strong Bad's head exists within the game's files. Its purpose is currently unknown.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic|Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic]]'' ==
One of the default name choices at the beginning is "Homsar Dell". You may need to click on the button again many times to come to this name.
[[Kerrek]] will show up as well.

== ''[[Wikipedia:StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty|StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty]]'' ==
When the Firebat unit is clicked on multiple times, one of its responses is [[dragon|"Burninating the countryside"]]

== ''Super Farkle'' ==
In this flash dice game on Facebook, you can find a "Sporty Runner" Egg as a prize. It is painted red with a white star and the top is blue, imitating Homestar's outfit.
== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/528604 Super Mario dressup game!]'' ==
*In this flash game a secret item is [[Homestar Runner]]'s hat and shirt/[[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]] to put on [[Mario]].
*Already visible are [[Homestar Runner]] and [[Strong Bad]]'s Shoes.

== ''Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars'' ==
For secret character Frank West's "Dead Rising" combo, he tosses the enemy in the air and whacks with a baseball bat into the sky. He either says "Dead Rising!" or "To the moooon!" which could be a nod to [[personal favorites]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's American Sk8land|Tony Hawk's American Sk8land]]'' ==
*In the Vans Park level, go forward from the starting point, then spine transfer the side of the half-pipe to the quarter-pipe on the other side. If you land it, you get the gap called "WIIIIDESCREEN", a reference to [[flashback]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's American Wasteland|Tony Hawk's American Wasteland]]'' ==
*In the Vans Park level, if you grind a rail around the corner on the third floor and jump out of bounds, you will see one of four messages, "Children'd!" "Arrowed!" "MSG'd!" or "Late 360 Shove-It to Boneless'D!"
**You can also see these messages by using a [[Wikipedia:Trainer (games)|trainer]] to increase your ollie or air height and jumping beyond the level's "ceiling."
*Also in Vans Park, if you board whack the generator thing, you will get a message and respawn. One of the possible messages is "Your head asplode".
*One of the cheats for the game is "2them00n," a reference to [[personal favorites]].
*When playing online, if you collide with another player, one of the messages is "You just K.O.[[-'d|'d]] 'the name of the person you just collided with'". This is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's Underground|Tony Hawk's Underground]]'' ==
*In the Moscow level, if you jump into a certain chimney, you die and the screen gives you a message. One of the messages is "BURNINATED!".
*In the Vancouver level, when you drive the limo, the license plate on the back of it says "LIMOZEEN".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Total Overdose: A Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico|Total Overdose: a Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico]]'' ==
If you manage to set an enemy on fire, you will be awarded with a burnination combo.

== ''Track Master'' ==
In [http://www.flashplayer.com/games/trackmaster.html this] flash game on [http://addictinggames.com/ Addictinggames.com], whenever you lose with a good score roughly around 10,000 the words "Good Jorb" appear on the screen.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Trivial Pursuit|Trivial Pursuit DVD: Pop2 Culture]]'' ==
One of the questions is:

Q: Who is Strong Bad's chronically depressed brother, in the web cartoon "Homestar Runner"? 
A: Strong Sad

== ''[[Wikipedia:Twilight heroes|Twilight heroes]]'' ==
When you're fighting Shifty Sam, one of the hit messages says "He blurs so fast that he actually turns invisible. You'd think he'd use that ability to go steal some cake rolls, but he uses it to hit you. A lot.", a reference to [[invisibility]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Urbz: Sims in the City|Urbz: Sims in the City]]'' ==
One of the Xizzles you can get is called "[[All up ons]]", which is a reference to [[suntan]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines|Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines]]'' ==
The detail text for flamethrower gas cannisters reads "A cannister of Burninator-brand flamethrower fuel", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne|Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne]]'' ==
When Prince Kael'thas Sunstrider & the Blood Elves are captured & held prisoner within the enchanted dungeons of Dalaran, one of the pair of guards taunting Kael is named Trogdar, a subtle reference to [[Trogdor]].

Also, in "Extreme Candy War 2005", a bonus map produced by Blizzard themselves, a neutral shop sells "Extreme Warez", one of which is a power-up that doubles the number of troops in the next spawning for your faction; this power-up is aptly named "[[Everybody to the Limit|TO THE LIMIT]]!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:World of Warcraft|World of Warcraft]]'' ==
A character named Master Smith Burninate appears in this game. He is an NPC at Thorium Point who gives quests. His name is yet another reference to [[Trogdor]], who "burninates" the countryside.

In the Goblin Town, Ratchet, there is an ogre NPC whose name is [[A Jorb Well Done|Jorb]]. Also, there is an ogre named Chort outside the Blade's Edge Arena, another word mispronounced by Coach Z.

Also, Homestarrunner.com appears in the "Additional Thanks" section of the credits. [http://img65.exs.cx/img65/1446/creditsref3rc.jpg Click here] to view a screenshot.

In the WoW Collectible Card Game, a card in the "Onyxia's Lair'" raid deck is called "Burninate". It features the flavor text "Suddenly the lair was aflame, everything burning like thatched roof cottages."

In Cataclysm expansion there is a quest in the Deepholm zone (the elemental plane of earth) to kill a large Trogg general named [http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3887/troggzor.jpg Troggzor the Earthinator]. Doing so earns you the choice of three rewards, [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9236/troggzorrewards.jpg such as Earthinating Peasant Leggings].

== ''[http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/catalog.aspx?d=7 Xbox 360 Indie Games]'' ==
''[http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258550282/ The Oracle]'': One of the possible answers is "Outlook [[virus|equals very yes]]".

== ''[[Wikipedia:X-Men Legends|X-Men Legends]]'' ==
"Strong Bad and Friends" are thanked in the "Special Thanks" section of the End Credits.

== ''[[Wikipedia:You Don't Know Jack|You Don't Know Jack]]'' ==
On the web version of You Don't Know Jack, in [http://www.youdontknowjack.com/Jack7 episode seven] of the weekly Jack game, during the "Jack Attack" the name [[Strong Bad]] appears. Players have to match the given phrase, word, object or person to something else based on a clue. The clue for the game is 'Who's Your Unintelligible Friend?' and the correct match of [[The Cheat]] eventually appears. [[Strong Sad]] also appears as an incorrect answer.

The Cheat also appears as an incorrect answer in [http://www.youdontknowjack.com/node/390 episode 45s] "Jack Attack", 'Thanks for Your Help, but You're Blocking My Light.'

[[Category: Sightings]]

Game Sightings

Geonightman — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:51 GMT

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== ''[[Wikipedia:Chzo Mythos|7 Days a Skeptic]]'' ==
*In the special edition of ''7 Days a Skeptic'', an unknown character types 'pasta sauce' into the computer to bring up the main menu. Entering the same phrase into the computer in the Captain's quarters brings up an email to Strong Bad, asking him how he types with his boxing gloves on.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Adventure Quest|Adventure Quest]]'' ==
*In the free flash RPG ''[http://www.battleon.com Adventure Quest]'', occasionally when a Guardian summons the Guardian Dragon, the dragon will say: "BURNINATE!!! (do not sue us please)"
*Also, there was a Homestar Runner chat icon in the forum that you could choose but it has been removed.
*On Mogloween 2006, one of the randomly generated names for the houses was [[Trogdor|Trogdor]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Age of Empires III|Age of Empires III]]'' ==
When you enter the cheat code 'sooo good' in single player, each unit that is killed will display a Teen-Girl-Squad-like death, which varies based on the type of unit that killed them. MUSKETEER'ED! and JANNISSARY'ED! are some examples.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Amazing Island|Amazing Island]]'' ==
On page 9/10 of the [http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-instructions-owner-manual/SEGA/AMAZING%20ISLAND-_E manual], there are instructions on creating a new character. Whoever took the picture had named his character Homestar.

== ''[[Wikipedia:American McGee's Grimm|American McGee's Grimm]]'' ==
One of the loading screen messages is "Ken loves Trogdor"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Backyard Skateboarding|Backyard Skateboarding: Game of the Year Edition]]'' ==
On the Customize Skater option, one shirt that is choosable is titled "Star Runner"; it is a red shirt with a white star.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator|Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator]]'' ==
*In the [http://www.grundislavgames.com/bj/ third game] in the series, when looking at a hut it is described as "A small thatched-roof cottage, suitable for burnination."

*In the [http://www.grundislavgames.com/bj/ first game], you have access to a computer which is identical to the Compy 386.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Cardmaster Conflict|Cardmaster Conflict]]'' ==
In the free online trading card game [http://cardmasterconflict.com/cmc/ Cardmaster Conflict], there is an avatar part called the "Gotta Have Blue Hair", which looks like Stinkoman's hair.

== ''Chain of Fire'' ==
The intro of level 25 tells the player "Time to [[burninate]]!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Counter-Strike|Counter-Strike]]'' ==
''Counter-Strike'' servers with AdminMod installed occasionally display messages "(username) was burninated by Trogdor, er by (username)" and "Headshot! For good, and for AWESOME!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Crash Tag Team Racing|Crash Tag Team Racing]]'' ==
While racing, Crunch might say, "I burninated that chump!" and "Haha! Your car asplode!"

While racing, Pasadena O'Possum might say, "Hey! This ain't a monster truck rally! That's SUNDAY SUNDAY SOMEDAY!!".

Several Die-O-Ramas have titles similar to "ARROWED!" from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] and/or [[comic]]. Among them are "SHARKED!", "CROSSBOWED!", "EXPLODEDED!"[[#CTTR_1|[1]]], "LIQUIDATED" and "JAWED!".

# "Explodeded" has an extra "ed" at the end, which refers to the 'D! from TGS. The font used for the Die-O-Ramas didn't have an apostrophe, so this was used instead.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Custom Robo|Custom Robo]]'' ==
*Partway through the American version of the game, there is a quiz on basic game knowledge. One of the (wrong) answers to a multiple-choice question is "Parts Burninator".
*There is also a gun called the "Homing Star"

== ''Cyborg Livestock Outer Space'' ==
If you defeat the alien mothership from Shockwave's [http://www.shockwave.com/sw/content/cyborglivestock Cyborg Livestock from Outer Space], the end text says that the ship "asplode," just as your head does in the game [[StrongBadZone]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Derby Owner's Club|Derby Owner's Club]]'' ==
One of the default sires' name is "Homestar Runner".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Diner Dash: Flo On The Go|Diner Dash: Flo on the Go]]'' ==
[[Image:Diner dash 3 - everybody to the limit.png|thumb|This diner's going to the moooooooooon!]]
One of the secret levels is titled [[Everybody to the Limit]]. The description is: "Can you handle everything and the kitchen sink? This one's [[personal favorites|going to the moon]]!!"
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== ''[[Wikipedia:Disney's Toontown Online|Disney's Toontown Online]]'' ==
One of the names you can name your Toon is [[Fat Dudley]].
During the monologue preceding the toontask for shutting down a sellbot factory, The store owner, Coach Zucchini, says that the toon can refer to him as [[Coach Z]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Dragon Fable|Dragon Fable]]'' ==
In one of the Sneevil Box Quests, you kill a sneevil and it gives you a random password. One of these passwords is "Burninate", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

Also, in the blacksmithing skill mini-game, Yulgar may ask you to craft such items as "Moist Letter Opener of Burninating."

One of the Warrior sayings is "[[Double Deuce|Douuuuuuuuble Deuce!]]"

In the Design Notes for May 2nd, 2008, the game programmer Rolith complains that "Nobody Likes his style..." This is a possible reference to [[Nebulon]].

During Mogloween '09 (the game's halloween event), an unlockable mask, "Big Bad Luchadore Mask" is a pretty clear shout out to [[Strong Bad]]'s face.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Everbound|Everbound]]'' ==
This homemade parody of ''Everquest'', found at Albinoblacksheep.com, allows one of the characters to summon Trogdor the Burninator.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Everquest|Everquest]]'' ==
In the zone Inktu'ta, The Unmasked Chapel, there is a monster called "Cursecaller Fhqwhgads". You can see a picture of it [http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=18067 here].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel|Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel]]'' ==
Listed in the credits, listed under "SPECIAL THANKS," is "SB/HSR".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fat Princess|Fat Princess]]'' ==
In the in-game manual, page five, one of the instruction blips reads: "Press (square) to burninate with fireballs". An AI Character name is also called "Marsy Pants".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls|Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls]]'' ==
*A man in Hellfire Chasm says "This is private property. Trespassers will be burninated.".
*In Whisperwind Cove one of the items you obtain in one of the floors from a dwarf is called 'Witches Brew"
**Both these areas were exclusively for the GBA version of the games, and were not on the original copies for the NES, or in the PlayStation remake Final Fantasy Origins on which Dawn of Souls is based.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Fortress Forever| Fortress Forever]]'' ==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Q5gzcvXp4 This preview] mentions "Burninating the Players."

== ''[http://www.jmtb02.com/flash/firestorm.htm Four Second Firestorm]'' ==
*One of the minigames is "Don't [[A Splode]]", which involves a car dodging boxes of explosives.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Full Auto 2|Full Auto 2: Battlelines]]'' ==
*One of the dragon decals players can put on their cars in the PSP version is called "Burninator".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Galactic Civilizations 2: Dread Lords|Galactic Civilizations 2: Dread Lords]]'' ==
In the custom race options one of the custom race icons looks suspiciously like an upside down [[Strong Bad]]. [http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6596/racelogo194vw.png]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Garry's Mod|Garry's Mod]]'' ==

In one of the maps, rp_richland, in one of the houses, there appears to be a kid's room. On one of the walls is a crayon drawing of [[Trogdor]] burninating some people, as well as a cloud (which also has a single beefy arm) throwing a lightning bolt. [http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4298/trogdorgmod.png]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde|Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde]]'' ==
In the credits of this game, it says "Additional Thanks To: Strong Bad."

== ''[[Wikipedia:Guild Wars|Guild Wars]]'' ==
*As an Elementalist (a mage), one can acquire spells called "[http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Professions.Detail&id=195 Mark of Rodgort]" and "[http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Professions.Detail&id=201 Rodgort's Invocation]." Both spells cause a condition in which the target catches on fire. Rodgort spelled backwards is Trogdor.
*In the latest update, one can go on a quest to bring an evil Stone Summit dwarf a [[Cold One]], which you create by adding ice to a Warm One.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero II|Guitar Hero II]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s|Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s]]'' ==
(See main article: [[Guitar Hero]])

== ''[[Wikipedia:Halo 3|Halo 3]]'' ==
*When you turn on the "I Would Have Been Your Daddy" skull, one of the things a marine would say while dying is "Life... flashing... before my eyes... Johnson... you still owe me 5 bucks..." which may be a reference to the SBEmail [[army]].
*In the level Foundry, in random piles of trash there are Chinese boxes with what appears to be Trogdor the Burninator.

== ''[http://www.lawlolawl.com/games/idontevenknow.phpI I Don't Even Know]'' ==
One minigame, entitled "HOW JOO MAKE A'SPLODE?", requires you to activate a bomb.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Imagine: Babysitter|Imagine: Babysitter]]'' ==
One of the items you can purchase at the store is the [[Original Book]].

== ''Jack Russell'' ==
In this flash game by Kenney Altera, the in-game instructions warn that if the protagonist dog touches a mine, he will [[StrongBadZone| A SPLODE]]! The game can be found [http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/289115 here] at [http://newgrounds.com Newgrounds].

== ''Jet Set Emily: Baby On The Go'' ==
In this game for the ZX Spectrum, one of the screens is entitled "homestarrunner.com" and resembles Homestar's head. (This screen only appears in the revision and later versions; earlier versions had a screen advertising irma.s5.com, an all-but-defunct Garfield site.) Incidentally, this game was designed by TheLazenby, a member of the Homestarrunner.net and Socks and Vinegar forums; the newest and final version, although not designed by TheLazenby, still retains this screen. (However, in the new version, a secret teleporter is said to be hidden somewhere in Homestar's head.)

==[[Wikipedia:John Woo Presents Stranglehold| John Woo Presents Stranglehold]]==
In the Xbox 360 version of the game, an Achievment can be unlocked called "Asplosion", which is similar to [[Vector Strong Bad|Vector Strong Bad's]] "Asplode."

== [[Wikipedia:Kingdom Hearts II|Kingdom Hearts II]] ==
*When fighting the Hydra in the Colosseum, a reaction called Urninator will be available. Urninator is one letter off from Burninator.
* In the BradyGames strategy guide for the game, on page 28, there is a tipbox labeled "[[Everybody to the Limit]]", a reference to the song of the same name.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Kingdom of Loathing|The Kingdom of Loathing]]'' ==
[[Image:Marziskull.PNG|thumb|You're not a broom?!]]
*One of the ways to attack someone in Player vs. Player is to "Burninate".
*In The Barrel full of Barrels, if you break open an exploding barrel, the result text tells you "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Barrel_full_of_Barrels#Your_Barrel_A_Splode Your Barrel A Splode], hurting you. Badly".
*In the Strange Leaflet, an area inspired by old text-based adventure games, you can enter in "[[Dennis]]" to hear that "You cannot go DENNIS from here."
*In the chat function, the chat command '/[[50 emails|baleet]] username' carries out the same effect as '/ignore username'.
*The game contains an item, [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Marzipan_skull Marzipan skull], which contains a reference to [[Marzipan|the character Marzipan]] and the [[Wikipedia:Marzipan|food of the same name]] in the description.
*The game also contains a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Mr._Balloon Mr. Balloon] item, the description of which refers to Strong Bad's song about "the High Voice Crew" from [[helium]].
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Pirate_zombie_robot_head pirate zombie robot head] contains the text "Must... fight... [[jibblies]]!" – a quote from [[More Fan Costumes]].
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Skewered_jumbo_olive skewered jumbo olive] says it has been "[[TROGDOR!|sworded]]".
*The descriptions for the eXtreme meat [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/EXtreme_meat_staff staff], [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/EXtreme_meat_sword sword], and [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php//EXtreme_meat_crossbow crossbow] say the respective weapon is "[[Everybody to the Limit|to the limit]]".
*The filename of the "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/100_Pound_Load 100 Pound Load]" Trophy is [[Heavy Lourde|heavy_lourde.gif]].
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hey%2C_baby._Wanna_wrestle%3F adventures] in a drunken stupor has the text "You buffoon. You carpetbagger. She gives you whatfor", a variant on a quote from [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] in [[50 emails]].
*Two of the combat messages from the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Spirit_Hobo spirit hobo] refer to [[Senor Cardgage]] - the message about "low rates and percent signs" is similar to a quote from [[Senor Mortgage]], and the message about a girl named Helvetica is based on [[garage sale]], when Senor Cardgage refers to Strong Sad by that name.
*There have been several references to "[[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]]" throughout the game:
**When spectating on the KWE wrestling matches in the KWE chatroom, the announcer has introduced Roo (who is basically a kangaroo wearing boxing gloves) with "How the heck does he karate-chop with boxing gloves on?"
**Giving a weapon to [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Roo Roo] in the KWE Back Room results in the message, ". . . holding this with boxing gloves will be the greatest challenge I have faced since that time I tried to type!"
**One of the Fun Facts on [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Roo_trading_card Roo's trading card] reads "Roo never takes off his boxing gloves! It's a good thing he doesn't do much typing!"
**When fighting [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Box The Box], one of the attack messages reads "It boxes your ears. How does it box with typing gloves on?"
**When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Raging_bull raging bull], one of the miss messages says, "He prepares to pummel you, but you confuse him by asking how he can do that with boxing gloves on."
**The entry for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Boxing_glove boxing glove] reads "How do I type with these things on? The better question is how will you repeat that question after I knock all your teeth out?"
*The verb "Arrow[['d]]" has been ocassionally used in the game:
**In The Hidden Temple, one of the events is entitled "[http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Arrowed%21 Arrowed!]".
**One of the gambling events in the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Money_Making_Game Money Making Game] involves shooting an arrow into a papaya à la William Tell. If you hit the papaya, it is said to be "arrow'd".
**One of the Valentine's Day gifts is an [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Arrow%27d_heart_balloon arrow'd heart balloon].
*One of the KWE wrestlers, [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Chori_Zo "Chori Zo"], has "[[Type|Lady-type]]" for her gender in the KWE Fact Book.
*When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Scary_pirate_(cursed) scary pirate], one of the miss messages says, "He moans "brrraaaiiiaaarrrnns!" and starts to gnaw on your skull, but does a pretty lousy [[A Jorb Well Done|jeorb]]."
*When fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Mayonnaise_wasp mayonnaise wasp], one of the miss messages says, "It tries to coat you with nasty mayonnaise, but you counter with a [[funny|ketchup bomb]]."
*The image of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Star_shirt star shirt] resembles [[Homestar Runner|Homestar Runner's]] shirt.
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Warehouse_of_Eternal_Stench stench resistance tests] in the Daily Dungeon contains the text "or as I like to call it, '[[Rotten Egglünd|Rotten Eggland]]'."
*One of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_Night_Gallery spooky resistance tests] in the Daily Dungeon uses the phrase "[[Jibblies|the jibblies]]".
*Before [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/The_LAAAAME_Observatory The LAAAAME Observatory] was destroyed by part of a comet, one of the galaxies you could observe was called, "Distant Galaxy NGC-404." The filename of the image was, [[404'd|"404d.gif"]].
*If the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Scroll_of_ancient_forbidden_unspeakable_evil Scroll of ancient forbidden unspeakable evil] causes hot damage to you, the game says, "These things are bad for you", perhaps referring to Homestar's line from [[invisibility]].
*Sometimes, when you consume a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fancy_but_probably_evil_chocolate Fancy but probably evil chocolate], it can be "filled with some sort of witch's brew, or perhaps witch's brüe", referring to both [[Witch's Brew]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Starting June 25, 2007, when you use the new item [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Black_Body%E2%84%A2_spray Black Body Spray] it states that "You feel moxious and dangerous, but it's hard to operate when everyone is trying to get [[all up ons]]."
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fire-breathing_duck Fire-breathing duck] contains the line "the important thing is that somebody gets this freakin' duck away from you," a reference to [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] and [[Main Page 13]].
*While fighting a [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/War_Hippy_Airborne_Commander War Hippy Airborne Commander], one may get the effect "All Covered in [[Whatsit]]".
*The description for the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Fire fire] item mentions it could be used for "blending in at a peasant convention," a reference to [[Trogdor]] burninating peasants and/or [[Rather Dashing]] having to make himself "on fire like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest]].
*In [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hobopolis Hobopolis], if you have Richard make nine scarehoboes at [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Richard%27s_Redoubt Richard's Redoubt], he says "I can do it! I can do it nine times!", a reference to the Strong Bad Emails [[crazy cartoon]] and [[virus]].
*Also in Hobopolis, some of the [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Hobo_Names Hobo Names] are references.
**One of the titles for a Hot-aligned Hobo is [[Trogdor|Burninatin']].
**One of the occupations for a Stench-aligned Hobo is [[The Poopsmith]].
*The [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Slime-covered_speargun Slime-covered Speargun] mentions a [[Nunchuck gun]].
*The [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Thermos_of_brew Thermos of Brew] is stated in the description to be full of [[Witches' Brew]]. In addition, the consumption text contains the line "You dwink the witches' bwew", a reference to [[Homestar Runner |Homestar Runner's]] speech impediment.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Kings of Chaos|Kings of Chaos]]'' ==
When your army wins a battle, one of the phrases is "You burninated the enemy!" Likewise, when your army is beaten, one of the phrases is "The enemy burninated your army!"
[http://www.kingsofchaos.com Kings of Chaos].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Luminous Arc|Luminous Arc]]''==
One of the random monster names in Luminous Arc is "Asplode".

At one point, one character says "First off, I'm not human, I'm a dragon. Or a dragon-man. Or something."

== ''[[Wikipedia:Magical Starsign|Magical Starsign]]'' ==
When the main characters have reached the planet of light, Nova, one of the Dancing Fruit will at one point run by the party, screaming "A-splode!!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Matrix Wars|The Matrix Wars]]'' ==
If you successfully attack another realm in this RPG, "you burninated the enemy!" may appear at the end of the attack entry.
[http://www.thematrixwars.com]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Minecraft|Minecraft]]'' ==
One of the start-up messages is "Consummate V's!"
[http://www.minecraft.net]

== ''NASCAR 2005: Chase For the Cup'' ==
One of the available designs for a Craftsman Truck paint scheme is called "A-splode".

== ''Nevermore Game'' ==
If you click on the i sign at the 4th scene, the Wheat Grows Sweet noise from [[Peasant's Quest]] will play.

Playing Location: http://www.stickpage.com/nevermoregameplay.shtml

== ''[[Wikipedia:Neverwinter Nights|Neverwinter Nights]]'' ==
New NWN patches have demo modules that illustrate creatures that have been added in those patches. These modules, created by Jay Watamaniuk, tend to be a bit silly in tone. The demo module included in v1.64, [http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/module_demo_landsea-puma.html Land Sea-Puma], has a signpost with following directions:
: North - Certain Dhoom
: East - Most Likely Dhoom
: West - Fair to Excellent Conditions for Dhoom
: Dennis - Ye Will Find Nothing of Yon Interest Here Aye

== ''[http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=24438 Nicholas' Weird Adventure 2]'' ==
*When Nicholas speaks to the guard in Morth's castle, he says, "I say there, monstrosity!", a clear reference to [[animal]].
*Later in the dialogue, the guard says back to Nicholas,"It serves you right, stupid pfargtl!", an obvious reference to [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]].
*Nicholas refers to a pile of refuse as [[whatsit]] in the sewer area.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Osu!|Osu!]]'' ==
*An Osu! player usernamed Agent Spin Here made a [http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7045 beatmap] of the song [[2 many knives]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Overlord II|Overlord II]]'' ==
*Upon finding the Red Minion Hive in the Nordberg Sanctuary, Gnarl comments that they are the "Burninators" of the Minion army.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Pac-Man World 3|Pac-Man World 3]]'' ==
Near the end of the Gogekko Tower level, Orson asks Pac-Man to hack into a computer, to which he replies, "It's not easy to [[How_Do_You_Type_With_Boxing_Gloves_On?|type with boxing gloves on]]."

== ''Pico's Cousin'' ==
When you beat the game, at the 'bonus features' section, click 'Useless info', listed there is 'Homestarruner.com rules.'

== ''Portal: Flash Version'' ==

On the AddictingGames page, at the end of the description of the game, it says "Do you has?"

== ''[[Wikipedia:Postal 2|Postal 2]]'' ==

In the ''Postal 2'' add-on ''A Week In Paradise'', in one minigame, when you look to your left, a piece of graffiti with the text "POMx2" and a pic of [[Pom Pom]] can be seen. When you go out of the Pom Pom corridor, a billboard above the Postal Dude displays the [[Homestar Runner]] "Seriously." [[wallpaper]]. Also, next to a clinic in the minigame, is the [[Homestarmy]] poster. Inside the clinic, the [[booOOMbox]] can be seen playing [[Everybody To The Limit]].

== [http://lrnj.com/ ''Project LRNJ''] ==
When your character dies in the game, death messages are displayed. One of them is [[A Splode|"Your head a splode!"]]

== [http://www.armorgames.com/games/retron_popup.html ''Retron''] ==
Losing all your lives displays the message [[A Splode|"YOUR SHIP A SPLODE"]].

== Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse ==
In episode 5, Chippy's bleeps are transcribed as [[Preeeeow|"preeyow"]].

== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/360579 Scribble 2!]'' ==
One of the levels, a right-pointing arrow, is entitled "[[Arrow'd]]".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shadow Complex|Shadow Complex]]'' ==
In the Xbox Live Arcade title ''Shadow Complex'', the [[Wikipedia:Xbox Live#Gamerscore|achievement]] for getting a certain number of headshots is called "My Head A-splode".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor|Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor]]'' ==
*At one point, the hero can tell someone that Yuzu Tanikawa is another character's [[lady fan|ladyfan]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4|Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4]]'' ==

*In one scene, Yosuke Hanamura says that something gives him the [[jibblies]].
*And during the sequence of events that leads to the True Ending, he also says that the case is over [[KOT's VOQPCS!|for reals this time]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Sims: Makin' Magic|The Sims: Makin' Magic Expansion Pack]]'' ==
[[Image:StinkSmasher 20X6.png|thumb|The StinkSmasher 20X6]]
One of the appliances is called "StinkSmasher [[20X6]]."

== ''[[Wikipedia:The Sims Bustin' Out|The Sims: Bustin' Out]]'' ==
One item in the game is called "The Furninator Deluxe", which is a reference to [[Trogdor]].

== ''Slacker 2'' ==
During the credits, zoom in on Slacker's nametag to see a picture of Homestar on it.
== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/533896 Sonic Annihilation]'' ==
*In the 3rd scene of this flash sonic says that eating someones guts is awesome but very [[jibblies|jibblie-giving]]
*in an older version of [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/524607 this show]Tails said [[holy crap]] as a reference to [[strong bad]]

== ''[[Wikipedia:Spore Creature Creator|Spore Creature Creator]]'' ==
A hidden picture of Strong Bad's head exists within the game's files. Its purpose is currently unknown.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic|Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic]]'' ==
One of the default name choices at the beginning is "Homsar Dell". You may need to click on the button again many times to come to this name.
[[Kerrek]] will show up as well.

== ''[[Wikipedia:StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty|StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty]]'' ==
When the Firebat unit is clicked on multiple times, one of its responses is [[dragon|"Burninating the countryside"]]

== ''Super Farkle'' ==
In this flash dice game on Facebook, you can find a "Sporty Runner" Egg as a prize. It is painted red with a white star and the top is blue, imitating Homestar's outfit.
== ''[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/528604 Super Mario dressup game!]'' ==
*In this flash game a secret item is [[Homestar Runner]]'s hat and shirt/[[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]] to put on [[Mario]].
*Already visible are [[Homestar Runner]] and [[Strong Bad]]'s Shoes.

== ''Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars'' ==
For secret character Frank West's "Dead Rising" combo, he tosses the enemy in the air and whacks with a baseball bat into the sky. He either says "Dead Rising!" or "To the moooon!" which could be a nod to [[personal favorites]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's American Sk8land|Tony Hawk's American Sk8land]]'' ==
*In the Vans Park level, go forward from the starting point, then spine transfer the side of the half-pipe to the quarter-pipe on the other side. If you land it, you get the gap called "WIIIIDESCREEN", a reference to [[flashback]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's American Wasteland|Tony Hawk's American Wasteland]]'' ==
*In the Vans Park level, if you grind a rail around the corner on the third floor and jump out of bounds, you will see one of four messages, "Children'd!" "Arrowed!" "MSG'd!" or "Late 360 Shove-It to Boneless'D!"
**You can also see these messages by using a [[Wikipedia:Trainer (games)|trainer]] to increase your ollie or air height and jumping beyond the level's "ceiling."
*Also in Vans Park, if you board whack the generator thing, you will get a message and respawn. One of the possible messages is "Your head asplode".
*One of the cheats for the game is "2them00n," a reference to [[personal favorites]].
*When playing online, if you collide with another player, one of the messages is "You just K.O.[[-'d|'d]] 'the name of the person you just collided with'". This is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Tony Hawk's Underground|Tony Hawk's Underground]]'' ==
*In the Moscow level, if you jump into a certain chimney, you die and the screen gives you a message. One of the messages is "BURNINATED!".
*In the Vancouver level, when you drive the limo, the license plate on the back of it says "LIMOZEEN".

== ''[[Wikipedia:Total Overdose: A Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico|Total Overdose: a Gunslinger's Tale in Mexico]]'' ==
If you manage to set an enemy on fire, you will be awarded with a burnination combo.

== ''Track Master'' ==
In [http://www.flashplayer.com/games/trackmaster.html this] flash game on [http://addictinggames.com/ Addictinggames.com], whenever you lose with a good score roughly around 10,000 the words "Good Jorb" appear on the screen.

== ''[[Wikipedia:Trivial Pursuit|Trivial Pursuit DVD: Pop2 Culture]]'' ==
One of the questions is:

Q: Who is Strong Bad's chronically depressed brother, in the web cartoon "Homestar Runner"? 
A: Strong Sad

== ''[[Wikipedia:Twilight heroes|Twilight heroes]]'' ==
When you're fighting Shifty Sam, one of the hit messages says "He blurs so fast that he actually turns invisible. You'd think he'd use that ability to go steal some cake rolls, but he uses it to hit you. A lot.", a reference to [[invisibility]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Urbz: Sims in the City|Urbz: Sims in the City]]'' ==
One of the Xizzles you can get is called "[[All up ons]]", which is a reference to [[suntan]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines|Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines]]'' ==
The detail text for flamethrower gas cannisters reads "A cannister of Burninator-brand flamethrower fuel", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

== ''[[Wikipedia:Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne|Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne]]'' ==
When Prince Kael'thas Sunstrider & the Blood Elves are captured & held prisoner within the enchanted dungeons of Dalaran, one of the pair of guards taunting Kael is named Trogdar, a subtle reference to [[Trogdor]].

Also, in "Extreme Candy War 2005", a bonus map produced by Blizzard themselves, a neutral shop sells "Extreme Warez", one of which is a power-up that doubles the number of troops in the next spawning for your faction; this power-up is aptly named "[[Everybody to the Limit|TO THE LIMIT]]!"

== ''[[Wikipedia:World of Warcraft|World of Warcraft]]'' ==
A character named Master Smith Burninate appears in this game. He is an NPC at Thorium Point who gives quests. His name is yet another reference to [[Trogdor]], who "burninates" the countryside.

In the Goblin Town, Ratchet, there is an ogre NPC whose name is [[A Jorb Well Done|Jorb]]. Also, there is an ogre named Chort outside the Blade's Edge Arena, another word mispronounced by Coach Z.

Also, Homestarrunner.com appears in the "Additional Thanks" section of the credits. [http://img65.exs.cx/img65/1446/creditsref3rc.jpg Click here] to view a screenshot.

In the WoW Collectible Card Game, a card in the "Onyxia's Lair'" raid deck is called "Burninate". It features the flavor text "Suddenly the lair was aflame, everything burning like thatched roof cottages."

In Cataclysm expansion there is a quest in the Deepholm zone (the elemental plane of earth) to kill a large Trogg general named [http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3887/troggzor.jpg Troggzor the Earthinator]. Doing so earns you the choice of three rewards, [http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9236/troggzorrewards.jpg such as Earthinating Peasant Leggings].

== ''[http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/catalog.aspx?d=7 Xbox 360 Indie Games]'' ==
''[http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258550282/ The Oracle]'': One of the possible answers is "Outlook [[virus|equals very yes]]".

== ''[[Wikipedia:X-Men Legends|X-Men Legends]]'' ==
"Strong Bad and Friends" are thanked in the "Special Thanks" section of the End Credits.

== ''[[Wikipedia:You Don't Know Jack|You Don't Know Jack]]'' ==
On the web version of You Don't Know Jack, in [http://www.youdontknowjack.com/Jack7 episode seven] of the weekly Jack game, during the "Jack Attack" the name [[Strong Bad]] appears. Players have to match the given phrase, word, object or person to something else based on a clue. The clue for the game is 'Who's Your Unintelligible Friend?' and the correct match of [[The Cheat]] eventually appears. [[Strong Sad]] also appears as an incorrect answer.

The Cheat also appears as an incorrect answer in [http://www.youdontknowjack.com/node/390 episode 45s] "Jack Attack", 'Thanks for Your Help, but You're Blocking My Light.'

== ''[[Wikipedia:Monday Night Combat]]'' ==
One of the ProTags in the game you can unlock in Monday Night Combat is named "[[Trogdor|Burninator]]".

[[Category: Sightings]]

Doom

Geonightman — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:07:35 GMT

Geonightman: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Pom Pom - Cacodemon.png|thumb|Pom Pom as a Cacodemon]]
'''[[Wikipedia:Doom (series)|Doom]]''' is a series of first-person shooter video games, one of the first of its kind in the video game industry. [[The Brothers Chaps]] have made several references in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner body of work]] to the series, especially both [[Wikipedia:Doom (video game)|the first game in the series]] and {{pl|l=http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Cacodmeon Cacodemons}}, the floating one-eyed demon foes that appear in the game. They also make several references to WADs. A .WAD file is a data file for the Doom Engine that is normally mod made by a fan(s) that includes new maps, weapons, and others. The Brothers Chaps use this extension for random programs.

==Appearances==
*[[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] — The ending snort after [[Trogdor]] blows fire at the screen is from this game, and is from the {{pl|l=http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Demon Demon monster}}.
*Email [[secret identity]] — "Strongbad_email.wad" and "Initiate sbemail-refresh daemon" are both homages to this game.
*Email [[alternate universe]] — [[Strong Bad]] remarks that his [[Blender#Game Boy in a Blender|alternate universe portal]] will release Cacodemons.
*[[strongbad email.exe Disc Five]] — If you wait too long to select a toon, a Cacodemon appears, and Strong Bad comments on it.
*[[Jibblies 2]] — [[Pom Pom]] [[Jibblies 2 Costumes|dresses up]] as a Cacodemon for [[Halloween]].
*[[SBCG4AP Advertisement]] — Strong Bad runs a program called "strongbad3Dtotal.wad", a simple 3D game.
*[[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]] — On the Wii version, Strong Bad uses [[Lappy 486#Programs|several wad files]] to run the game.
*The cereal [[Breakfast Cereals from Specially Marked|"Blue Laser Blasts!"]] from email [[specially marked]] uses the DooM [[fonts|font]] which is based off of the font from Doom.

==External Links==
*[http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Entryway Doom Wiki]

[[Category:Video game references]]
[[Category:Entertainment running gags]]

Talk:Doom

Geonightman — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:40:45 GMT

Geonightman: /**/Font

== first appearance ==

It's an alternate universe portal, not a time machine. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 19:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Good eyes — I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Cacodemons&curid=38610&diff=512225&oldid=511599 fixed}} it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Wolfenstein VS Doom ==
The "Get Sblounkched!" line at the beginning of the 8-Bit-is-Enough section, coupled with the fact that the King of Town behaves just like the Wolfenstein end-of-level-boss, leads me to believe that that is a reference to Wolfenstein 3D, not to Doom. --{{User:The New Uzi-Bazooka/sig}} 11:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I just found out that the segment's called "Castle Poopenstein." This is clearly not a reference to Doom. I'm taking it off. --{{User:The New Uzi-Bazooka/sig}} 11:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== Font ==

You think it is worth mentioning that the font on "Blue Laser Blasts" (or rather the words Blue Laser), is written in the font DooM, which is based off of the font in Doom?--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 17:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:autobiography

Geonightman — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:43:43 GMT

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== Fast Forward ==
Should we put in a link to [[senior prom]] regarding the girl with skinny blonde hair? Senior prom refers back to this. I was thinking something along the lines of:
:Strongbad fakes a message on an answering machine from a girl who had to go to Mars and thus could not go to a dance with him in [[senior prom]], possibly the same person as the girl with skinny blonde hair.
I was wondering if we should mention Delilelia by name.--{{User:Jqubed/sig}} 04:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:I'm going to put in:
::Strong Bad fakes a phone message from a girl named Delilelia who had to go to Mars and thus could not go to a dance with him in [[senior prom]]. This might be the same person as the girl with skinny blonde hair.
:—{{User:Jqubed/sig}} 19:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== "back" link ==

The "back" link works like an inch left of the word back. Is this worth noting and does it happen anywhere else? --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:37, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

Nope it is a valid glitch. I was looking over emails and saw you guys didn't have this one listed.

== dumpus note ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait a minute... lemme check something... ''{runs spellchecka.exe, it says "0 spelling errors found!"}'' No way! ''{typing}'' No misspellings, a good idea, made fun of Strong Sad ''{types "dumpus" in place of Strong Sad}'' ... don't get me wrong, Dan, I mean, I wanna make fun of you but, uh, you've put together a solid email! ''{while saying this, he types "No misspellings + good idea + made fun of dumpus = SOLID!!"}''

---

I removed the ''{types "dumpus" in place of Strong Sad}'' because that note is already taken care of in ''{while saying this, he types "No misspellings + good idea + made fun of dumpus = SOLID!!"}''. Is there a reason why you kept this, HR Coder? --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:11, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:She probably didn't notice the bottom part. Personally I think we should reword it- keep the "''{types "dumpus" in place of Strong Sad}'' and remove this part from the "''{No misspellings + good idea...}''" part. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Aye, but if we put in ''{types "dumpus" in place of Strong Sad}'' and remove ''{while saying this, he types "No misspellings + good idea + made fun of dumpus = SOLID!!"}'', shouldn't we then have to also put in ''{types "+ good idea"}'', ''{types "= SOLID!!"}'' where necessary? Wouldn't it be easier to only have ''{...he types "No misspellings + good idea..."}''? -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh, wait. I see where you're coming from. That idea is much better, yes. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:23, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh, sorry about that. Guess I was confused. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I took it out. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== No grammar errors, maybe ==

But Dan should have said "autobiography," not "biography"

== Cussing? ==

Let's sort this out once and for all. Some users have recently tried to add the following Fun Fact:

<blockquote>When Strong Bad hits fast forward the first time, it is implied that Deke had [[Cusses|cussed]] at Strong Bad.</blockquote>

Her's the problem: how do we ''know'' that Deke actually swore at Strong Bad? He could have called him a "freakin' idiot" and then beaten him up, for example; Strong Bad could have fast forwarded so we don't know that Deke got real mad at him. Furthermore, when a similar issue arose with [[trevor the vampire]], it was decided not to mention the possibility of swearing on the basis that it didn't need to be pointed out and that the "f" was speculatory. In that case, why should "autobiography" be exempt? What does everyone else think? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

== [[caffeine]] ==

In the email caffeine, Strong Bad receives another email with no spelling errors, that made fun of Strong Sad, and that he saw as a good idea. However, he doesn't comment about that at all. Worth a reference? {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:I say no, because this comes before [[caffeine]], and Strong Bad didn't find it as remarkable the second time it happened (rightly so). If he would have made his comment in caffeine and not in this one, that would have been noteworthy because he didn't notice the first time it happened, but the way it is, it's no big deal.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 06:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

== Incorrect Data....DELETED! ==

*"print_of_it.exe" is the first of Strong Bad programs other than "strongbad_email.exe" that incorporate an underscore.
This is not true. take_a_break.exe, does as well.--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 22:44, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, it is true. The program in [[huttah!]] is [[take-a-break.exe]], with hyphens, not underscores. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:49, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
::Then someone fix that on the Compy's page.--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 04:43, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:autobiography

Geonightman — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:44:08 GMT

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autobiography

Geonightman — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:43:06 GMT

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{{sbenav|67}}

[[Image:sbemail67.PNG|thumb|"...Milk and cookies shot out my nose!"]]

Dan from PA asks Strong Bad if he will write an autobiography on his life.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Race Track]] (Easter egg)

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 24, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:43

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Two}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' This email is brought to you by a grant from The Cheat ''{a logo of The Cheat appears, captioned "The Cheat since 1983"}'' and the support of Viewers Like You. ''{"Viewers Like You" appears}''

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey Strong Bad! 
Have you ever considered writing a 
biography on your life? I think it 
would be a very cool idea since 
everyone likes you anyway. I mean, 
no one wants to read about a boring 
person, like Strong Sad, or anything 
like that. 
 
Dan, PA</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad temporarily stops and says "That's true!" after reading "everyone likes you anyway," and reads "Dan, PA" as "Dan from Pennsylvania"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait a minute... lemme check something... ''{runs spellchecka.exe; it says "0 spelling errors found!"}'' No way! ''{typing}'' No misspellings, a good idea, made fun of Strong Sad ... don't get me wrong, Dan, I mean, I wanna make fun of you but, uh, you've put together a solid email!

''{While saying this, he types "No misspellings + good idea + made fun of dumpus = SOLID!!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm gonna print this thing out and save it for posterity. Maybe a little prosperity.

''{He runs print_of_it.exe and the email prints out via [[The Paper]]. He tears it off and starts typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, Dan, you big, dumb moron. I've actually already begun work on my memoirs. It's a new books-on-tape series called "Words I Probably Said" by Strong Bad. ''{stops typing}'' Let's take a listen.

''{Cut to the booOOMbox. There is a cassette tape in it with the title of Strong Bad's series and the words "Tape One." Strong Bad presses play.}''

'''STRONG BAD ON TAPE:''' —and Reg had the ball at the top of the key, and I was all like, "I'm open! I'm open!" But somebody musta slipped him some drugs or something before the game because he didn't see me and he passed it to The Deke instead and The Deke SLAM-DUNKED IT! Oh, it was my greatest moment on the court! I was trying to high-five everyone in sight but there was a lot of commotion and excitement and...The Deke accidentally shoved me to the ground and called me a—

''{Strong Bad hits fast-forward; the tape squeals.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oop! We'll skip on ahead here.

''{Strong Bad lets go of the fast forward button, and the tape continues.}''

'''STRONG BAD ON TAPE:''' —and she was a very, ''very'' special lady. And she loved me ''so much'' and had skinny blonde hair and was always hanging out at the beach, gazing at a photo of me... Too bad when she had to go to another planet for reasons too complex to elaborate on. I'll probably never see her again. And neither will any of you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That was a true part! Let's skip ahead again.

''{Strong Bad hits fast-forward again for a minute, then stops.}''

'''STRONG BAD ON TAPE:''' —but the Cheat couldn't stop laughing and I didn't know what the big deal was until I saw the piece of paper...

''{A piece of notebook paper is shown showing Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat, labeled "us", with an arrow pointing to lots of dollar signs, labeled "money".}''

'''STRONG BAD ON TAPE:''' I just about lost it! Milk and cookies shot out of my nose! Oh! It was a great idea. And it just might work!

''{Strong Bad leans into view.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And it ''did'' work! All right, that's enough. You heard enough... of my secrets.

''{Strong Bad seats himself back in front of the Compy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, you get the picture. I mean it's gonna be great. People will listen to it when they go on roadtrips. Maybe play it on their Walkman when they go jogging in the park. I mean, I bet it'll make people wanna run faster because of how good it is. That thing could double as one of those weightloss tapes. ''{stops typing}'' Okay. Take it away, The Paper! Preeeeeeeeowwwww... Come on. Preeeeeeowwwwweeee. What's the d—?

''{The Paper comes down rather quickly}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Musta been a paper jam.

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Strong Bad's tapes come up, click on them to show the tapes inside. Click on them again to see the back of the box, mostly showing what Ike had to say.
<pre>Here's what they're
probably saying about
"Words I Probably Said"

"Hootie Hoo!"
-Ike Turner

"Hootie Hoo!"
-Ike Turner

"A nice, smooooth
drive."
-Ike Turner

"Hootie Hoo!"
-Tex Arcana</pre>
*When Strong Bad talks about "[[The Deke]]," click on the speaker to see a The Deke [[Trading Cards|trading card]].
*When the sketch of the Strong Brothers' big idea comes up, click on it to see further details.
*At the very end, click on "weightloss tapes" to see how effective the tapes just might be!
:''{Cut to what appears to be a track in the field. Coach Z is standing nearby looking at a stopwatch, while The King of Town slowly jogs by wearing a jogging suit, headband, and a Walkman. Strong Bad's voice can be faintly heard from the tape in the background.}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Keep movin'! Work off the weight! This is a new beginning for the KoT! Oof!
:'''COACH Z:''' This is a dark day for track and field.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
* According to the front cover of the tape series box, Strong Bad probably said the following words:
** bow-legged
** [[Cell Phones|cell phone]]
** [[Cold One|cold ones]]
** [[Compy 386|COMPY]]
** [[Crazy Go Nuts University|crazy go nuts]]
** red or white?
** scriggidy
** successfully
** [[total]]
** trade secrets

===Remarks===
*Oddly enough, two of the three tapes in the box and the one in the player are all labeled Tape One. The other is labeled Tape Three.
*The King of Town's tapeplayer says "[[Sports Use]]."
* This is another instance of Coach Z's on/off accent. He pronounces "field" correctly here, but says it as "ferald" in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]] and [[dictionary]].
*Strong Bad does not imitate the paper correctly. Its sound is on a C-sharp but he does it on a B-flat.

===Goofs===
*While the radio is shown, and you have opened the tape box so you can see the three tapes, Strong Bad's gloves go oddly under the tape box even though his head goes in front of it.
*Even though Strong Bad fast forwards the tape, the spools of the cassette do not move faster.
*At the end of the email, there is not an "a>" and the back link extends a considerable distance to the left of the word "back." In fact, it extends to the left edge of the Compy.
*The printing sound is extended a second too long. This is probably because of the work needed to do on the paper jam.
*When the drawing comes up, the vertical line extends beyond the paper. This is more noticeable when it is flipped over.
*In the Easter Egg the King of Town does not move his mustache when he talks.

===Glitches===
*After Strong Bad takes the printed email, the line "No misspellings + good idea + made" shifts to the left as it scrolls up the screen of the Compy 386.

===Inside References===
*The girl with skinny blonde hair is possibly a reference to the song "[[Circles]]", which features a skinny blonde girl, and to [[theme party]] (which is where "Circles" originated).
*The radio that plays the autobiography looks like the radio Strong Bad is listening to at the pool in [[A Jumping Jack Contest|A Jumping Jack Contest.]]
*Strong Bad mentions [[high fives]].
*The Deke's trading card is part of the [[Biscuits|Biscuit]] Gravy series.

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad's intro ("This email is brought to you by a grant from The Cheat and the support of Viewers Like You") comes from the start of most [[PBS|Public Broadcasting Service (PBS)]] television programs. Often, the grant is from the [[Wikipedia:Corporation for Public Broadcasting|Corporation for Public Broadcasting]].
*The only thing that was probably said that Ike didn't say (see [[autobiography#Easter Eggs|Easter Eggs]]) was by Tex Arcana. This is probably a play off the town of [[Wikipedia:Texarkana, Texas|Texarkana]], a town divided by the Texas/Arkansas border.
*[[Wikipedia:Ike Turner|Ike Turner]] was a bandleader for the sixties best known for his work with his wife, [[Wikipedia:Tina Turner|Tina Turner]].
*The tape Strong Bad presumably took out of the boom box to exchange with his autobiographical tape was put into the case. It's labeled "SHAQ-FU." "Shaq-Fu: Da Return" was an album release on Jive records in November of 1994 featuring [[Wikipedia:Shaquille O'Neal|Shaquille O'Neal]]. A single from this album was released with the [[Wikipedia:Sega Genesis|Sega Genesis]] [[Wikipedia:Shaq Fu|video game]] of the same name.
*"Hootie Hoo" is the name of a song by the band [[Wikipedia:OutKast|OutKast]].
*The King of Town's Walkman resembles a Sony Sports Walkman portable AM/FM radio and cassette player.

===Fast Forward===
*"[[Preeeeow]]" is used again many times as the [[onomatopoeia]] for The Paper's sound effect.
*"[[Reg Having the Ball|Reg had the ball]]" and "[[top of the key]]" become running gags.
*''[[Words I Probably Said]]'' later appears among the many items sold in [[garage sale]].
*Strong Bad later fabricates another story about a girl leaving him to go to another planet in [[senior prom]].
*Strong Bad would later print out an email again in [[email thunder]].

== DVD Version ==
*All Easter eggs are accessible by using your DVD player's angle button.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail67.html|watch "autobiography"]]
*[[HR:sbemail67.swf|view the Flash file for "autobiography"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]

Talk:little questions

Geonightman — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:06:10 GMT

Geonightman: /**/I think I has the new article!

== Closed STUFF ==
These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles (Declined)===
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.
*'''Decline''' There is a very key difference between them. In Monty Python, the subtitles are meant to look like they're in a foreign language when they're not. In little questions, they are meant to look English, translating pseudo-English being spoken to a Swede. That's not close enough for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:00, 14 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline.''' Entirely different subtitle gags - they just happen to share a common language. Also, the Holy Grail subtitles are not accompanied by the original audio that the subtitles are translating (I *know* there isn't an original audio track - I'm making a point here). And one more thing, the subtitles in 'little questions' are in English, not even QUASI-psuedo-Swedish. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:03, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Who's checkin' that E-Mail?==
It sounds to me like in his little pre-email (prE-Mail?) song that he's saying
"All the ladies want to know, a-who's checkin' that E-mail (beat) with Strong Bad?"
I'm kinda deaf, so I may be wrong on this. Can someone else see if they hear the same thing?
:I don't, but I'll remember to say "prE-Mail" again. I like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:11, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== How did you seen out when you was a baby? ==

<center>[[Image:Baby strong bad.png]]</center>
:{{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::Now all we need is to see how he'll seen out when he is wery old. =3
--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
<center>[[Image:Can_of_Peas.png]]</center>
:::Close enough, I think. [[User:HeWhoYerfs|HeWhoYerfs]] 06:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

== Sweden ==

And is it just me, or does the Flag of Sweden appear to have two right hands? [[User:HeWhoYerfs|HeWhoYerfs]] 06:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
:The left hands of both flags are identical (but mirrored). Strong Badia's hand looks good, but the mirrored version on the flag of Sweden looks out of place. This is probably because the outside of Strong Badia's left hand makes for a bad inside of Sweden's left hand. So yeah, the perspective is wrong, but I don't know if that's enough for a goof.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

::Hm, yeah, I think I can see how that would work. The shaking hand would have to be the right hand for that to work, so it only makes sense of Sweden is looking away fom the "camera" and you're seeing the underside of the left hand. You can kind of tell that's what hey're trying to do, as the right hand of the Strongbadia flag come from behind it, while the right hand of Sweeden comes from in front. Opposite for the left hands. Maybe screwy perspective, but yeah.. I could see that it might not quite qualify as a goof. It just looks a bit off at first glance. [[User:HeWhoYerfs|HeWhoYerfs]] 12:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

==Essay?==
"Essay" can't be the best word to describe Viklas's paper. I know, I should probably have a suggestion for a way to improve it, but nothing jumps to mind. But it ain't an essay. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 08:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about just "paper"? Y'know... "Oh, I has a paper to write tonight on why a company called Franco-American makes Italian food..." Or something. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== Viklas's name ==

"Viklas is not an actual Swedish name. The author of the email probably just misspelled Niklas (the Swedish form of Nicholas)."

This seems too presumptuous, an uncommon name doesn't mean it's not a name, and the author may or may not be Swedish.

Maybe remove/edit comment?

:Hmm, I agree that the comment seems presumptuous. And for all we know, Viklas is some Swedish guy's nickname, not his actual name. I'd agree with removing it. Also, it might be good beforehand to look in the page history to see how long ago it was added... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
::I tried to tweak it, but it may still be too presumptuous. I wouldn't oppose outright removal. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 23:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

It's not necessary to include speculation, but I'd strongly suggest changing "not a common" to "not an actual". A quick search in the [http://www.birthday.se/sok/?f=Viklas census], [http://personer.eniro.se/query?what=wp&lang=&ax=&search_word=Viklas&geo_area= phone book] or [http://www.scb.se/Pages/NameSearch.aspx?id=259432 official government statistics] prove beyond doubt that there's not a single person in Sweden bearing the name, the closest being a guy with "Wichlas" as his surname. [[Special:Contributions/81.170.129.172|81.170.129.172]] 02:46, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== a fomula ==

strong bad says "width times height" with height being the same a length it would be width time length or the fomula to find area. I would put that in the real world references or another part of the trivia.
:[[little questions#Explanations|Explanations]]: "Width times height" is the formula for finding the area of a rectangle." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:30, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== I think I has the new article! ==

I think it may be time that we give "I think I has the solution" its own page. It's appeared on the site like 3 or 4 times. According to the rules of making an inside joke article "it must appear on the site at least 3 times". Thoughts?--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 17:06, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

A Decemberween Mackerel

Geonightman — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:38:05 GMT

Geonightman: /* Remarks */

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|xmas10|Xeriouxly Forxe|Homestarloween Party}}
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us.]]

Senor Cardgage says he's dying so Marzipan tries to stuff him with Decemberween spirit to save him.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, [[Homeschool Winner]], [[Rafferdy]], [[Preshy]], [[Champeen]], [[The Hurricane]], three [[Unguraits]], {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, December 14, 2010

'''Running Time:''' 6:05

'''Page Title:''' We Come Down Off Our High Horse!

== Transcript ==
''{Music plays. A silhouette of Homestar and Marzipan can be seen through the falling snow. Lines representing the wind curl by.}''

''{Cut to Marzipan with earmuffs and scarf holding a dish and Homestar in his brown hat walking through The Field through the snow. Homestar looks distressed.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan! Explain to me why we're slogging through this blizzard again? I don't think I can slog much further!

''{Cut to a tighter shot of the two}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I told you, at Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And, you think bringing him bean sprouts is, ahem, helping?

''{Pull back to a wider shot. Marzipan looks angrily at Homestar.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Be quiet and keep slogging. We're almost there.

''{A bush comes into view.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, man! This guy? ''{They stop walking}'' When you said less fortunate, I just assumed you meant Coach Z.

''{Coach Z pops up in the foreground from under a snow drift wearing a Blubb-O's box}''

'''COACH Z:''' Me too!

''{Coach Z disappears}''

''{A doorbell sounds. Senor Cardgage rises into view accompanied by traffic sounds. He's facing away from Marzipan and Homestar.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Hello, Chi Minh?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Mr. Senor! Happy Decemberween!

''{Cut to a tighter shot of the three of them.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Is this a frank call?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No, no, over here. ''{Cardgage turns around.}'' We brought you some food for the holidays.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah. We come down off our high horse to spread a little Decemberween cheer.

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Thank you, Hot Pooey. ''{Homestar looks mad. Zip pan to a close-up of the bush.}'' Would you care to coincide?

''{Close-up of Homestar and Marzipan}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan, did that guy just call me "Hot Pooey"? And invite me inside that bush?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{embarrassed}'' Maybe?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's it, I'm going back to your house. Later on, we'll conspire.

''{Cut back to a wider shot. Homestar walks off screen left. Cardgage is now shaking.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, you poor wretch. What's the matter?

''{Cut to medium shot of Marzipan and Cardgage.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Oh, not much... I'm just... dying.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Gasp!

''{A red title card with a holly border slides in from screen right. Words appear as the singers sing them.}''

'''SINGERS:''' A Decemberween Mackerel. (The name of this cartoon.)

''{Crossfade to Homestar wearing a mistletoe sweater and a red bow laying on Marzipan's couch, the camera slowing trucking back to reveal his entire body.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Marzipan! Is that you? I'm wearing a sweater made out of mistletoe! And what feels like a colony of venomous bugs! ''{various black insects jump around Homestar's body}''

''{Cut to a wider shot. Cardgage enters screen right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah! You!

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{sing-song}'' Hot pooey.

''{Marzipan follows screen right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan! What's the big idea of bringing this guy home? ''{Cut to close-up to Homestar}'' I was about to give you your Decemberween make-out present. ''{Homestar winks and clicks with his mouth.}''

''{Cut back to previous shot.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This is serious, Homestar. Senor Cardgage is dying! ''{Cardgage nods}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, cool. Then we'll just make out after. What do you give him, five minutes? No minutes? ''{Homestar steps towards Marzipan.}'' No minutes?

''{Close up of Marzipan. She's angry. }''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, I don't have time to trick you into making out with a mop again this year. ''{Her expression clears}'' Hmm, if we cram him full of enough holiday cheer, maybe he can squeeze out a Decemberween miracle!

''{Cut to medium shot of all three}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, I love cramming holiday cheer. I'll go get my ''{pulls from off screen}'' tinsel-wrapped cram rod!

''{Beat. Homestar glances around once.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, I'm back.

''{Push wipe up red card reading "Holiday Cheer Cramlist" "Caroling"}''

''{Push wipe up to reveal Homestar, Marzipan and Cardgage outside singing at sunset around a bathtub with chains around it. Homestar is waving his cram rod and Marzipan is holding a candle.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER & MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Coach Z's been drinking non-specific mouthwash-ween.

''{A arm with papers shoots in from screen left.}''

'''MAN:''' I need you to sign here.

''{Homestar pushes the papers away with his cram rod.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{echoey}'' Oh, thanks guys. That warms my heart.

''{Cut to a shot inside of the tub. Strong Sad's face is seen in the bottom right of the frame and a chain around his body. Homestar is looking through the slats above.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Not enough to stave off the onset of hypothermia, of course. But a month-long ''{cut back to outside. Cardgage is groaning and swaying}'' coma's nothing I haven't dealt with before.

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' My coma's toast....

'''MARZIPAN:''' Time to go!

''{The Marzipan and Cardgage dash off screen right, while Homestar follows.}''

''{Cut to red card as before. Caroling is crossed out and "Greeting Card" is in the center. A musical sting plays.}''

''{Push wipe down to reveal Pom Pom with a camera on a tripod and lighting umbrellas behind him. He is gesturing with an arm.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot reveals Homestar in his mistletoe sweater, Marzipan with lights in her ponytail and Cardgage wearing a olive green cardigan. Homestar moves slightly to the right in the frame.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom gestures his arm up.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot. Marzipan moves up slightly.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom gestures to his right.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot. Cardgage moves slightly to the right.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom, irritated, gestures his arm and bubbles for a long time.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot. Cardgage continues to move to the right until his is halfway out of the frame.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom indicates for Cardgage to stop.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{He picks up Gooblies and squeezes him. There is a white flash and cuts to a card with "Seasoned Greetings", with a picture of Homestar and Marzipan, and Cargage halfway out of the frame.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Okay, now we need to make the corresponding ''{cut to a wider shot, showing the card in the lower left, while Marzipan is wearing half-moon glasses.}'' newsletter to brag about our family. ''{Marzipan clicks the pen and takes a deep breath. As she starts to write, the words appear behind her. Very rapidly:}'' This year was so great! Our family is so great! I can't believe Homestar has started fourth grade! How time flies. It's so great! Senor Cardgage won first place in sports and was selected to be terminally ill! ''{She starts writing on the paper in various angles, across already-written words, and in margins.}'' I am in book club and PTA carpool and redoing the back-splash. It's so great! Warm wishes, ''{Carves this last line into her table:}'' The Marzipan-Homestar-Cardgages.

''{Cut to Homestar sitting on the arm of the couch with his cram stick. Cardgage is lying on the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Our family is, literately and figuratively, so great! ''{Cardgage groans}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{off-screen}'' Movin' on!

''{Push wipe left red title card. Caroling and Greeting Card are now crossed out with "Waiting In Line" in the center.}''

''{Push wipe left to reveal Bubs' Concession Stand. A silhouette of Bubs can be seen waving his arms. A line of people can be seen, ending with Marzipan and Cardgage. Camera slowly pans and reveal Homestar in the foreground.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{faintly}'' I've got a deal on everything. I've got all sorts of stuff!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, Bubs. ''{Camera pans to reveal Bubs standing next to Homestar. Homestar pokes him with the cram rod.}'' What's this line for?

'''BUBS:''' The holidays.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Perfect! How long is it?

'''BUBS:''' Three miles or eighteen days. ''{Pull back to reveal Cardgage standing behind them. He begins to groan.}'' Whichever comes first.

''{Cardgage turns around groaning. Bubs looks annoyed.}''

''{Marzipan sticks her head in screen right.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' All right, that's enough. Let's move. Preoow! ''{She grabs Cardgage and dashes off screen right. Homestar is stunned.}''

''{Push wipe right red title card as before. Caroling, Greeting Card and Waiting In Line are all crossed off, with "Tree Lighting" now in the center.}''

''{Push wipe right to Coach Z standing next to Homestar. Homestar is waving his cram rod.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Nothing crams Decemberween cheer like the annual lighting ''{Cut to wider shot of Coach Z, Homestar, Marzipan and Cardgage standing around the telephone pole. Yellow lights are strung from the pole, and an orange extension cord is in the foreground. Cardgage sways.}'' of the lights attached to a pole in a tree-shaped fashion.

''{Cut back to the shot of Coach Z and Homestar. Homestar has picked up the extension cord.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If this doesn't cure him, nothing will!

'''COACH Z:''' Don't I know it! Last year, these lights cured me of chronic athlete's tongue and the year before that, it was rub rash, and then hot pooey—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Excuse me, you're disgusting. Barf.

''{Homestar throws up and turns away. Coach Z looks disappointed. Homestar than plugs in the extension cord.}''

''{Cut to a wider shot. The lights turn on.}''

'''HOMESTAR, MARZIPAN, & COACH Z:''' Oh!

''{Cut to medium shot of Marzipan and Cardgage. Cardgage is disheveled and his glasses are falling off.}'''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh wow, if it was pitch black and I squinted and was a few miles away, ''{cut to a wide silhouette of all standing around the tree}'' this would sort of look like a tree almost! ''{Cut back to previous shot.}'' Isn't it wonderous, Senor? A real miracle-inducing spectacle, isn't it?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{moans}'' Oh, my Toyota Cressida... ''{Cardgage falls down}''

''{Cut to wider shot with Cardgage in the snow.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, no!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, yes!

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat come in from the bottom of the frame. Cut to medium shot of Marzipan and Strong Bad, with Strong Mad in a sweater and The Cheat green hat behind him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's goin' on here?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Help, quick! I think Senor Cardgage is dying!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And what makes you think that?

''{Cut to close up of Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' He told me so when I brought him a hot covered dish to brighten his dismal life.

''{Cut back to the medium shot}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''He'' told you. ''{Close up of Strong Bad}'' You decided to take at face value something the guy who lives in a bush and talks to melty candy bars said.

''{Cut back to medium shot}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Maybe?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And, who not fifteen minutes ago, told me I ''{cut to the Basement of the Brothers Strong. Strong Bad is standing on the arm of the orange couch and Cardgage is standing next to it. Marzipan's dish is sitting on the couch.}'' "might paste away if I Dinty Moore." ''{Strong Bad begins to leap on the dish.}''

''{Cut back to The Field. Cardgage stirs and holds up a can that says "Dented")''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' You rally might, Pez dispenser. ''{He collapses}''

''{Close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Besides, everybody knows the way to save Senor Cardgage is to cut a bunch of motor sports magazines in half and pour gravy on a defibrillator. A-like so.

''{Cut Strong Mad with magazines that read "Modasports. The 2[covered] Tomatocyle!!!! Daaaang!" The Cheat is standing next to a defibrillator and a gravy boat. Strong Mad grunts and pulls the magazines apart. The Cheat then takes the gravy boat and pours the gravy on the defibrillator. Music plays and the silhouette of Cardgage can be seen rising.}''

''{Cut to a shot of Cardgage with rays behind him, standing tall.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Oh, my grabness, grabness. It really is—

''{Cut to a shot of all standing around the tree. Strong Sad is still in his tub, next to The King of Town and Strong Mad. The Poopsmith is standing behind Bubs screen left.}''

'''ALL:''' A Decemberween mackerel!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappointed}'' And nobody's dying.

''{Cut to an emaciated Homsar lying in the snow, his hat faintly wiggling as he speaks}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAa! I'm your death's door neighbor. Puff. Cough. Toff.

''{Red card with End appears}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Clicking on the E on "End" at the end of the toon will show a quick scene of Homestar Runner making out with "Marzipan".
*:''{The door of Marzipan's closet is shown, with some mistletoe leaves scattered outside it. Homestar's voice comes from inside the closet}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh... Oh, I must say... Oh, twice... Marzipan, it's so romantic the way you lured me into this closet! ''{Marzipan is seen walking by the closet}'' ...And the way your wet stringy face tastes like seven kitchen floors! ''{Homestar coughs}'' ...Cockroach.

*Clicking on the D on "End" at the end of the toon will show a new product from the makers of "Hot Jones".
*:''{A mug of Hot Jones is shown}''
*:'''ANNOUNCER:''' From the makers of Hot Jones comes Hot Pooey, our newest holiday sensation! ''{The mug is replaced by a different mug, the contents of which are censored}'' Hot Pooey! Oh dear God... what have we done?

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*A DVR is a [[Wikipedia:Digital video recorder|digital video recorder]].
*To come down off your high horse is to stop thinking less of other people.
*This toon was released eighteen days before New Year's, which is the time Bubs's "holiday line" lasts.

===Trivia===
*The [[FeedBurner Page#New Holiday Toon - A Decemberween Mackerel|RSS description]] for this toon is:
<blockquote>Surprise! Like an errant reindeer that's come loose from the sleigh, hurtling towards the earth at breakneck speed, bursting into flames, and impact cratering the crap out of your front yard...It's a Decemberween cartoon! Marzipan takes it upon herself to try and improve Senor Cardgage's dismal life. Man! Years go by fast, huh?! Cram that holiday cheer! Cram it!</blockquote>
*This is only the second toon of 2010.
*On the homepage, when "[[Main Page Messages|new holiday toon!]]" is moused over, its words change to "for real!"
*This toon was built at the normal 550×400 size but is shown at double that size (the first such toon to be displayed that way).

===Remarks===
[[File:ADecemberweenMiracle.png|thumb|A Decemberween Miracle]]
[[File:HotPooeyUncensored.png|thumb|Ohh, there's two of them!]]
*Much like [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], this cartoon appears to be presented in a [[Sound Quality|higher audio sample rate]] than usual.
*For four frames, while the title is coming to the foreground, it reads "A Decemberween Miracle".
*During the caroling, the candle Marzipan is holding is the same as in the email [[love poems]].
*Hot Pooey, beneath its censored bar, is identical to [[Hot Jones]].
*It is unlikely that this will be the end of Homsar, since this is [[homsar|the second instance of his supposed death]].
* When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzipan is leaves a solid trail, again hinting her body is actually dress shaped.

===Inside References===
*Strong Sad is [[Homestar Presents: Presents|locked in a bathtub]].
*This is another instance of [[Making Out|making out]], [[death]], and [[spoken sound effects]].
*Homestar says "Oh, [[Twice]]" in one of the Easter eggs.
*Coach Z pops up wearing a [[Blubb-O's]] box.
*The silhouettes of a number of [[rejected characters]] appear in line for Bubs' Concession Stand.
*The last line of Marzipan and Homestar's carol, "Coach Z's been drinking nonspecific mouthwash", is a reference to the song "O Decemberween" at the end of [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. The original line was "Coach Z's been drinking Listerine."
*Senor Cardgage appears from [[hammerspace]], accompanied by the traffic noise first heard in [[hremail3184]].
*Pom Pom picks up [[Gooblies]] when taking the picture.
*Homestar saying "That is literally, and figuratively, so great" is a reference to [[Jibblies 2]].
*The [[Minor Foods#Tomatocyle|tomatocycle]] previously showed up in [[Where U Goin' 2?]].
*Homestar [[Puking|pukes]] when Coach Z tells him about his illnesses.
*The music that plays when Cardgage comes back to life is similar to the [[Lappy 486]]'s startup noise.
**The exact sound effect was previously used in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] When [[Eh! Steve]]'s mouth began to float away.
*The word "pooey" was first spoken by [[The Homestar Runner]] in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]]. When he encounters [[Rumble Red]], he says, "Aw, phooey! And after that, pooey! Not you again!"
*The defibrillator was previously seen in the email [[specially marked]]
*When Marizpan, Homestar, and Cardgage are standing in like there are [[duplicate characters|two Bubses]]

===Real-World References===
*Homestar's quote, "Later on, we'll conspire," is from the Christmas song "[[Wikipedia:Winter Wonderland|Winter Wonderland]]".
*[[Wikipedia:Hormel|Dinty Moore]] is a brand of canned [[stew]].
*"Hello, Chi Minh" is a play on the name of Vietnamese revolutionary [[Wikipedia:Ho Chi Minh|Ho Chi Minh]].
*Cardgage calls Strong Bad "[[Wikipedia:Pez|Pez dispenser]]".
*Right before Cardgage collapses, he complains about his [[Wikipedia:Toyota Cressida|Toyota Cressida]] (which, in his case, appears to be an organ and not a car). This might be a reference to the anime/manga [[Wikipedia:Great Teacher Onizuka|Great Teacher Onizuka]], where the principal regularly bemoans the constant destruction of his beloved Toyota Crestas.

== External Links ==
{{extlinks|xmas10|16628}}

{{decemberweennav}}

[[Category:Decemberween]]

A Decemberween Mackerel

Geonightman — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:36:29 GMT

Geonightman:

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|xmas10|Xeriouxly Forxe|Homestarloween Party}}
[[File:A Decemberween Mackerel opening.png|thumb|At Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us.]]

Senor Cardgage says he's dying so Marzipan tries to stuff him with Decemberween spirit to save him.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, [[Homeschool Winner]], [[Rafferdy]], [[Preshy]], [[Champeen]], [[The Hurricane]], three [[Unguraits]], {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, December 14, 2010

'''Running Time:''' 6:05

'''Page Title:''' We Come Down Off Our High Horse!

== Transcript ==
''{Music plays. A silhouette of Homestar and Marzipan can be seen through the falling snow. Lines representing the wind curl by.}''

''{Cut to Marzipan with earmuffs and scarf holding a dish and Homestar in his brown hat walking through The Field through the snow. Homestar looks distressed.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan! Explain to me why we're slogging through this blizzard again? I don't think I can slog much further!

''{Cut to a tighter shot of the two}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I told you, at Decemberween time, it's our duty as people with more than one DVR to help those much, much, much, much, way very, very, very much, really smelly, a lot much less fortunate than us.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And, you think bringing him bean sprouts is, ahem, helping?

''{Pull back to a wider shot. Marzipan looks angrily at Homestar.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Be quiet and keep slogging. We're almost there.

''{A bush comes into view.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, man! This guy? ''{They stop walking}'' When you said less fortunate, I just assumed you meant Coach Z.

''{Coach Z pops up in the foreground from under a snow drift wearing a Blubb-O's box}''

'''COACH Z:''' Me too!

''{Coach Z disappears}''

''{A doorbell sounds. Senor Cardgage rises into view accompanied by traffic sounds. He's facing away from Marzipan and Homestar.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Hello, Chi Minh?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Mr. Senor! Happy Decemberween!

''{Cut to a tighter shot of the three of them.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Is this a frank call?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No, no, over here. ''{Cardgage turns around.}'' We brought you some food for the holidays.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah. We come down off our high horse to spread a little Decemberween cheer.

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Thank you, Hot Pooey. ''{Homestar looks mad. Zip pan to a close-up of the bush.}'' Would you care to coincide?

''{Close-up of Homestar and Marzipan}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan, did that guy just call me "Hot Pooey"? And invite me inside that bush?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{embarrassed}'' Maybe?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's it, I'm going back to your house. Later on, we'll conspire.

''{Cut back to a wider shot. Homestar walks off screen left. Cardgage is now shaking.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, you poor wretch. What's the matter?

''{Cut to medium shot of Marzipan and Cardgage.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Oh, not much... I'm just... dying.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Gasp!

''{A red title card with a holly border slides in from screen right. Words appear as the singers sing them.}''

'''SINGERS:''' A Decemberween Mackerel. (The name of this cartoon.)

''{Crossfade to Homestar wearing a mistletoe sweater and a red bow laying on Marzipan's couch, the camera slowing trucking back to reveal his entire body.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Marzipan! Is that you? I'm wearing a sweater made out of mistletoe! And what feels like a colony of venomous bugs! ''{various black insects jump around Homestar's body}''

''{Cut to a wider shot. Cardgage enters screen right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah! You!

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{sing-song}'' Hot pooey.

''{Marzipan follows screen right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan! What's the big idea of bringing this guy home? ''{Cut to close-up to Homestar}'' I was about to give you your Decemberween make-out present. ''{Homestar winks and clicks with his mouth.}''

''{Cut back to previous shot.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This is serious, Homestar. Senor Cardgage is dying! ''{Cardgage nods}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, cool. Then we'll just make out after. What do you give him, five minutes? No minutes? ''{Homestar steps towards Marzipan.}'' No minutes?

''{Close up of Marzipan. She's angry. }''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, I don't have time to trick you into making out with a mop again this year. ''{Her expression clears}'' Hmm, if we cram him full of enough holiday cheer, maybe he can squeeze out a Decemberween miracle!

''{Cut to medium shot of all three}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, I love cramming holiday cheer. I'll go get my ''{pulls from off screen}'' tinsel-wrapped cram rod!

''{Beat. Homestar glances around once.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, I'm back.

''{Push wipe up red card reading "Holiday Cheer Cramlist" "Caroling"}''

''{Push wipe up to reveal Homestar, Marzipan and Cardgage outside singing at sunset around a bathtub with chains around it. Homestar is waving his cram rod and Marzipan is holding a candle.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER & MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Coach Z's been drinking non-specific mouthwash-ween.

''{A arm with papers shoots in from screen left.}''

'''MAN:''' I need you to sign here.

''{Homestar pushes the papers away with his cram rod.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{echoey}'' Oh, thanks guys. That warms my heart.

''{Cut to a shot inside of the tub. Strong Sad's face is seen in the bottom right of the frame and a chain around his body. Homestar is looking through the slats above.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Not enough to stave off the onset of hypothermia, of course. But a month-long ''{cut back to outside. Cardgage is groaning and swaying}'' coma's nothing I haven't dealt with before.

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' My coma's toast....

'''MARZIPAN:''' Time to go!

''{The Marzipan and Cardgage dash off screen right, while Homestar follows.}''

''{Cut to red card as before. Caroling is crossed out and "Greeting Card" is in the center. A musical sting plays.}''

''{Push wipe down to reveal Pom Pom with a camera on a tripod and lighting umbrellas behind him. He is gesturing with an arm.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot reveals Homestar in his mistletoe sweater, Marzipan with lights in her ponytail and Cardgage wearing a olive green cardigan. Homestar moves slightly to the right in the frame.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom gestures his arm up.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot. Marzipan moves up slightly.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom gestures to his right.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot. Cardgage moves slightly to the right.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom, irritated, gestures his arm and bubbles for a long time.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{Reverse shot. Cardgage continues to move to the right until his is halfway out of the frame.}''

''{Reverse shot. Pom Pom indicates for Cardgage to stop.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbling noises}''

''{He picks up Gooblies and squeezes him. There is a white flash and cuts to a card with "Seasoned Greetings", with a picture of Homestar and Marzipan, and Cargage halfway out of the frame.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Okay, now we need to make the corresponding ''{cut to a wider shot, showing the card in the lower left, while Marzipan is wearing half-moon glasses.}'' newsletter to brag about our family. ''{Marzipan clicks the pen and takes a deep breath. As she starts to write, the words appear behind her. Very rapidly:}'' This year was so great! Our family is so great! I can't believe Homestar has started fourth grade! How time flies. It's so great! Senor Cardgage won first place in sports and was selected to be terminally ill! ''{She starts writing on the paper in various angles, across already-written words, and in margins.}'' I am in book club and PTA carpool and redoing the back-splash. It's so great! Warm wishes, ''{Carves this last line into her table:}'' The Marzipan-Homestar-Cardgages.

''{Cut to Homestar sitting on the arm of the couch with his cram stick. Cardgage is lying on the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Our family is, literately and figuratively, so great! ''{Cardgage groans}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{off-screen}'' Movin' on!

''{Push wipe left red title card. Caroling and Greeting Card are now crossed out with "Waiting In Line" in the center.}''

''{Push wipe left to reveal Bubs' Concession Stand. A silhouette of Bubs can be seen waving his arms. A line of people can be seen, ending with Marzipan and Cardgage. Camera slowly pans and reveal Homestar in the foreground.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{faintly}'' I've got a deal on everything. I've got all sorts of stuff!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, Bubs. ''{Camera pans to reveal Bubs standing next to Homestar. Homestar pokes him with the cram rod.}'' What's this line for?

'''BUBS:''' The holidays.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Perfect! How long is it?

'''BUBS:''' Three miles or eighteen days. ''{Pull back to reveal Cardgage standing behind them. He begins to groan.}'' Whichever comes first.

''{Cardgage turns around groaning. Bubs looks annoyed.}''

''{Marzipan sticks her head in screen right.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' All right, that's enough. Let's move. Preoow! ''{She grabs Cardgage and dashes off screen right. Homestar is stunned.}''

''{Push wipe right red title card as before. Caroling, Greeting Card and Waiting In Line are all crossed off, with "Tree Lighting" now in the center.}''

''{Push wipe right to Coach Z standing next to Homestar. Homestar is waving his cram rod.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Nothing crams Decemberween cheer like the annual lighting ''{Cut to wider shot of Coach Z, Homestar, Marzipan and Cardgage standing around the telephone pole. Yellow lights are strung from the pole, and an orange extension cord is in the foreground. Cardgage sways.}'' of the lights attached to a pole in a tree-shaped fashion.

''{Cut back to the shot of Coach Z and Homestar. Homestar has picked up the extension cord.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If this doesn't cure him, nothing will!

'''COACH Z:''' Don't I know it! Last year, these lights cured me of chronic athlete's tongue and the year before that, it was rub rash, and then hot pooey—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Excuse me, you're disgusting. Barf.

''{Homestar throws up and turns away. Coach Z looks disappointed. Homestar than plugs in the extension cord.}''

''{Cut to a wider shot. The lights turn on.}''

'''HOMESTAR, MARZIPAN, & COACH Z:''' Oh!

''{Cut to medium shot of Marzipan and Cardgage. Cardgage is disheveled and his glasses are falling off.}'''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh wow, if it was pitch black and I squinted and was a few miles away, ''{cut to a wide silhouette of all standing around the tree}'' this would sort of look like a tree almost! ''{Cut back to previous shot.}'' Isn't it wonderous, Senor? A real miracle-inducing spectacle, isn't it?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{moans}'' Oh, my Toyota Cressida... ''{Cardgage falls down}''

''{Cut to wider shot with Cardgage in the snow.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, no!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, yes!

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat come in from the bottom of the frame. Cut to medium shot of Marzipan and Strong Bad, with Strong Mad in a sweater and The Cheat green hat behind him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's goin' on here?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Help, quick! I think Senor Cardgage is dying!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And what makes you think that?

''{Cut to close up of Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' He told me so when I brought him a hot covered dish to brighten his dismal life.

''{Cut back to the medium shot}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''He'' told you. ''{Close up of Strong Bad}'' You decided to take at face value something the guy who lives in a bush and talks to melty candy bars said.

''{Cut back to medium shot}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Maybe?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And, who not fifteen minutes ago, told me I ''{cut to the Basement of the Brothers Strong. Strong Bad is standing on the arm of the orange couch and Cardgage is standing next to it. Marzipan's dish is sitting on the couch.}'' "might paste away if I Dinty Moore." ''{Strong Bad begins to leap on the dish.}''

''{Cut back to The Field. Cardgage stirs and holds up a can that says "Dented")''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' You rally might, Pez dispenser. ''{He collapses}''

''{Close up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Besides, everybody knows the way to save Senor Cardgage is to cut a bunch of motor sports magazines in half and pour gravy on a defibrillator. A-like so.

''{Cut Strong Mad with magazines that read "Modasports. The 2[covered] Tomatocyle!!!! Daaaang!" The Cheat is standing next to a defibrillator and a gravy boat. Strong Mad grunts and pulls the magazines apart. The Cheat then takes the gravy boat and pours the gravy on the defibrillator. Music plays and the silhouette of Cardgage can be seen rising.}''

''{Cut to a shot of Cardgage with rays behind him, standing tall.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Oh, my grabness, grabness. It really is—

''{Cut to a shot of all standing around the tree. Strong Sad is still in his tub, next to The King of Town and Strong Mad. The Poopsmith is standing behind Bubs screen left.}''

'''ALL:''' A Decemberween mackerel!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappointed}'' And nobody's dying.

''{Cut to an emaciated Homsar lying in the snow, his hat faintly wiggling as he speaks}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAa! I'm your death's door neighbor. Puff. Cough. Toff.

''{Red card with End appears}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Clicking on the E on "End" at the end of the toon will show a quick scene of Homestar Runner making out with "Marzipan".
*:''{The door of Marzipan's closet is shown, with some mistletoe leaves scattered outside it. Homestar's voice comes from inside the closet}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh... Oh, I must say... Oh, twice... Marzipan, it's so romantic the way you lured me into this closet! ''{Marzipan is seen walking by the closet}'' ...And the way your wet stringy face tastes like seven kitchen floors! ''{Homestar coughs}'' ...Cockroach.

*Clicking on the D on "End" at the end of the toon will show a new product from the makers of "Hot Jones".
*:''{A mug of Hot Jones is shown}''
*:'''ANNOUNCER:''' From the makers of Hot Jones comes Hot Pooey, our newest holiday sensation! ''{The mug is replaced by a different mug, the contents of which are censored}'' Hot Pooey! Oh dear God... what have we done?

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*A DVR is a [[Wikipedia:Digital video recorder|digital video recorder]].
*To come down off your high horse is to stop thinking less of other people.
*This toon was released eighteen days before New Year's, which is the time Bubs's "holiday line" lasts.

===Trivia===
*The [[FeedBurner Page#New Holiday Toon - A Decemberween Mackerel|RSS description]] for this toon is:
<blockquote>Surprise! Like an errant reindeer that's come loose from the sleigh, hurtling towards the earth at breakneck speed, bursting into flames, and impact cratering the crap out of your front yard...It's a Decemberween cartoon! Marzipan takes it upon herself to try and improve Senor Cardgage's dismal life. Man! Years go by fast, huh?! Cram that holiday cheer! Cram it!</blockquote>
*This is only the second toon of 2010.
*On the homepage, when "[[Main Page Messages|new holiday toon!]]" is moused over, its words change to "for real!"
*This toon was built at the normal 550×400 size but is shown at double that size (the first such toon to be displayed that way).

===Remarks===
[[File:ADecemberweenMiracle.png|thumb|A Decemberween Miracle]]
[[File:HotPooeyUncensored.png|thumb|Ohh, there's two of them!]]
*Much like [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], this cartoon appears to be presented in a [[Sound Quality|higher audio sample rate]] than usual.
*For four frames, while the title is coming to the foreground, it reads "A Decemberween Miracle".
*During the caroling, the candle Marzipan is holding is the same as in the email [[love poems]].
*Hot Pooey, beneath its censored bar, is identical to [[Hot Jones]].
*It is unlikely that this will be the end of Homsar, since this is [[homsar|the second instance of his supposed death]].

===Inside References===
*Strong Sad is [[Homestar Presents: Presents|locked in a bathtub]].
*This is another instance of [[Making Out|making out]], [[death]], and [[spoken sound effects]].
*Homestar says "Oh, [[Twice]]" in one of the Easter eggs.
*Coach Z pops up wearing a [[Blubb-O's]] box.
*The silhouettes of a number of [[rejected characters]] appear in line for Bubs' Concession Stand.
*The last line of Marzipan and Homestar's carol, "Coach Z's been drinking nonspecific mouthwash", is a reference to the song "O Decemberween" at the end of [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. The original line was "Coach Z's been drinking Listerine."
*Senor Cardgage appears from [[hammerspace]], accompanied by the traffic noise first heard in [[hremail3184]].
*Pom Pom picks up [[Gooblies]] when taking the picture.
*Homestar saying "That is literally, and figuratively, so great" is a reference to [[Jibblies 2]].
*The [[Minor Foods#Tomatocyle|tomatocycle]] previously showed up in [[Where U Goin' 2?]].
*Homestar [[Puking|pukes]] when Coach Z tells him about his illnesses.
*The music that plays when Cardgage comes back to life is similar to the [[Lappy 486]]'s startup noise.
**The exact sound effect was previously used in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] When [[Eh! Steve]]'s mouth began to float away.
*The word "pooey" was first spoken by [[The Homestar Runner]] in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]]. When he encounters [[Rumble Red]], he says, "Aw, phooey! And after that, pooey! Not you again!"
*The defibrillator was previously seen in the email [[specially marked]]
*When Marizpan, Homestar, and Cardgage are standing in like there are [[duplicate characters|two Bubses]]

===Real-World References===
*Homestar's quote, "Later on, we'll conspire," is from the Christmas song "[[Wikipedia:Winter Wonderland|Winter Wonderland]]".
*[[Wikipedia:Hormel|Dinty Moore]] is a brand of canned [[stew]].
*"Hello, Chi Minh" is a play on the name of Vietnamese revolutionary [[Wikipedia:Ho Chi Minh|Ho Chi Minh]].
*Cardgage calls Strong Bad "[[Wikipedia:Pez|Pez dispenser]]".
*Right before Cardgage collapses, he complains about his [[Wikipedia:Toyota Cressida|Toyota Cressida]] (which, in his case, appears to be an organ and not a car). This might be a reference to the anime/manga [[Wikipedia:Great Teacher Onizuka|Great Teacher Onizuka]], where the principal regularly bemoans the constant destruction of his beloved Toyota Crestas.

== External Links ==
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{{decemberweennav}}

[[Category:Decemberween]]

A Decemberween Mackerel

Geonightman — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:29:37 GMT

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A Decemberween Mackerel

Geonightman — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:28:56 GMT

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Geonightman — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:51:51 GMT

Geonightman: /**/Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

== Hallelujah! Hallelujah! ==

After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email
*This is an toon not only in widescreen but it is big altogether even bigger than the games menu(I personally can't fit it on my screen VERTICALLY entirely)

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Geonightman — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:51:36 GMT

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Geonightman — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:50:09 GMT

Geonightman:

Hallelujah! Hallelujah! After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death. And hints at Homsar's
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email

Just things I konticed.
--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:A Decemberween Mackerel

Geonightman — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:49:31 GMT

Geonightman: Created page with 'Hallelujah! Hallelujah! After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel! On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed. *On the Main Pag…'

Hallelujah! Hallelujah! After who knows how long, we finally get a toon! This truly is a D-Ween Mackerel!
On to Bweeze-Ness. Here are some things I have noticed.
*On the Main Page it says "New Holiday Toon", and when hovered over it says "For real!"
*When Cardgage is "revived" he makes the same shine and noise as when "Eh, Steve!'s mouth exploded the universe" in Cactus Coffee and the No Tell Hotel"
*Non specific mouthwash and the guy who says I'm going to need you to sign this makes fun of people being sued for using product names.
*Marzipan and Homestar both sung a modified version of O, Decemberween.
*Strong Sad being locked in the tub is a reference to other D-Ween toons.
*This toon constantly references Cardgage's death.
*When Marzipan and Homestar are walking at the beginning, Homestar has footsteps and Marzi is leaving a solid trail, again hinting she is just a mass in a dress shape
*When Cardgage comes out of the bush, he makes the same traffic noise as in his FBI warning and Hremail 3184
*Coach Z is wearing a Blubb-Os box.
*The Bubs scene could be an instance of duplicate characters.
*Homeschool winner, Preshy, Rafferdy, Champeen, The Hurricane and another mass I can't identify at the end of the line are all in the bubs scence
*The Defib unit was previously seen in the Breakfast cereal email

Just things I konticed.

Talk:Hremail 2000

Geonightman — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:23:02 GMT

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==Dipped in ink==
Could the claim in the Easter egg that Shadow Homestar was "dipped in a vat of ink" be a reference to the ending montage of [[dangeresque 3]], where the silhouette of [[Killingyouguy]] was shown to be made by painting Strong Mad in black? It's what came first to my mind, anyway... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Mine too.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 14:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Oh most definitely. Should there be a page for shadow Homestar, or at least a part of the chacter variation page for hime? He seems like a pretty important duplicate.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::[[Shadow Homestar Runner]]. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't really think the page is neccesary (Hope I spelled that right). It should be under Homestar's variations because that is practically him.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 02:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::The guy above me is right. Shadow Homestar is merely a slight variation of Homestar. But, Shadow Homestar could come back, and end up just like Homsar.[[User:Origonalname]]

== Shadow Homestar ==
Isn't this a reference to "Shadow Link" in the Legend of Zelda games? We all know TBC are big fans, so possibilities?
--[[User:Lustmyeyes|lustmyeyes <3]] 10:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think lots of video game characters have "shadow" or "dark" versions of themselves, it's quite common, from what I can tell. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 16:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::I wish, but the easter egg seems to be referencing the [[Street Fighter]] series. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 16:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Mortal Kombat as well. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Since the whole scene is a parody of Mortal Kombat, I kinda think the Noob Saibot line holds some water. Another "ambiguous reference" about the ubiquitousness of "shadow" characters may also be appropriate. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 01:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, the original "Prince of Persia" was almost certainly the first game to have such a "shadow" opponent... predates Mortal Kombat by 3 years. --[[User:dmz|dmz]] 08:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think we're best off with the ambiguous reference, like we already have on the page, though i wouldn't mind a nod to noob in the same line, since it IS mortal kombat after all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Frankly, I'm against any reference at all to Noob Saibot - he wasn't all-black, just gray, and he didn't copy the moves of any character in particular. In his initial appearance, there were MULTIPLE characters that looked like him aside from the color scheme. If it's got anything at all to do with Mortal Kombat, it's almost certainly the mirror matches that were in the original game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's Jung! Carl Jung! The shadow self represents our insecurities, the elements of our psyche we repress! To do battle with the shadow self is to cease projecting these qualities onto others and acknowledge them in our self! -SFC
:: What the crap? What are you talking/spamming about? Okay, Mr. Preacher, could you keep your ramblings to yourself or would you care to explain what you mean? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 19:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::: Jungian psychology describes the archetype (the common form present in everyone's understanding of the world) of the shadow self. The shadow self is, as I said, the part of ourself we don't consciously recognise - not necessarily the 'bad' parts, but the parts we don't think of as really 'us'. Part of psychological development, in this model, is acknowledging these elements - engaging with the shadow self, 'doing battle with it', and merging with it to form a more complete, healthy being. So, basically, Jung attributes to this root cause all the mythical examples of shadow selves - and his work predates video games, naturally. -SFC
::::You guys are getting a bit out of hand here. Jung? All I think is that it is similar to shadow link, and nowhere near as important as you guys are saying it is. This is like the Homsar laugh thing from the Career Day discussion all over again![[User:Origonalname]]]

== Multiples again? ==
It should probably be noted that this is another instance of [[duplicate characters]], both with the 3rd Homestar leg (which is obviously not part of homestar when he's shown on the basketball court) and possibly also because of the Shadow Homestar. [[Special:Contributions/72.70.158.239|72.70.158.239]] 13:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''. Yeah we should probably note the third leg.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 14:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Done.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 19:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Except the three leg thing has really nothing to do with "shadow Homestar"... --[[Special:Contributions/71.58.29.180|71.58.29.180]] 23:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::No one said it did... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Homestar's Arms==
I'm no master at editing wikis, so I think I'll just mention it here. There should probably be something about how Homestar holds a big sock, then a big shoe, then a bigger sock, and then a bigger shoe, more than someone could hold with two hands (as he lifts them up seperately, and they don't move afterwards).
:There is a place to do that. I'll try to find it for consistancy. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 17:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Try going [[invisible arms|here]]. I also added a remark on the article. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 17:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, does anyone else think the Chaps are doing this on purpose now? I notice the whole "doing-things-that-would-require-more-than-two-arms" controversy has seemed to heighten somewhat on this wiki lately, so are they just adding fuel to the fire? Do they ''enjoy'' making those who try to find at least some level of vague sense-make in the cartoon squirm uncomfortably in their seats? (Not that I'm one of those people, I'm just sayin'. It's a weird co-weenky-dink.) [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I believe one of their commentaries mentioned the wiki, so they definitely know what goes on here. Probably amused their dumb little animal cartoon is causing so much silly bantering. My take is it's, 'relax, it's just a cartoon." And giant hands. Just because they're invisible doesn't mean they have to be normal sized!
:::::He holds them up individually, so unless he has REALLY big fingers..... -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

What if he has one arm, holds an item, uses the other arm to put an item in his first arm, takes the second arm, puts the item in the first arm (this part would be hard, but not entirely impossible) and then holds the last item in the second arm (optionally, he could take the third item and transfer it back to the second)
:Yeah, it is actually possible to manipulate your fingers in a way where you can hold all four items at once, especially considering how light even giant socks are.
::I Don't think the Chaps meant to confuse you by having Homestar hold 4 things at once. I think it is more of a goof that they didn't have Homestar put down the extra items. This is one of those things that just don't make all that much sense. Just relax, it's not like it's the end of the world.[[User:Origonalname]]

== Dream ==
When marzipan says that "the whole last season was just a dream", could this be a reference to the infamous ending of the Sopranos Tv series?
:This is the fourth suggestion so far as to what show it's referring to. I think that pretty much makes it something that can't be pinned to any one thing. The other three are Roseanne, Dallas, and Newhart, as seen when i removed them [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hremail_2000&diff=627207&oldid=627205&rcid=586009 here]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Dallas did it first and is most famous for it. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 21:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The show Newhart is arguably the most famous as making the ''entire show'' was a dream in his earlier show. But I don't want to get into an argument about which is "more famous", because if one is mentioned, they all need to be. The best way is to make an ambiguous reference. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
There's a big controversy on how to include a remark about how "the entire last season was a dream." Why not just add a non-specific reference like; "Several prime-time shows have revealed in the season's last episode that the entire season had merely been a dream."? I'm not good at writing these things though, but i'm sure someone could make it sound very good and succinct. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Why hasn't anyone else thought of this? Nice idea. -Nonuser mster24
::I'll take a shot at it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, it's up. Wasn't sure whether to put it in Explanations or Real-World References, but if I've erred someone can move it. I tried to word it as succinctly as I could, but of course if someone can reword it better, go for it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Great summary, that's better than I could have put it. However, I believe that it belongs under Real-World references as it really isn't explaining anything rather than mention something said is referring to a real-life show(s). -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, general references to culture rather than references to something specific go in explanations. it's in the right place. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I almost changed it, but realized the same thing trying to rephrase it. I like it where it is. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::There has only been one show where they had an entire season which was a dream. That was Dallas. This is a direct, complete reference to Dallas. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
:::-as opposed to NEWHART which was only 8 seasons dreamed up. If I do my math right, NEWHART is 800% more direct than Dallas. My point is, there's more than one show which did that and we have the reference already in the article. We appreciate your input, but this has been discussed. Please see above. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 22:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, not necessarily. One could argue that, by the "math" of the transitive <strike>butt</strike> gimmick property, Dallas: 1 season = 100% direct reference by what Marzi said, whereas Newhart: 1 series/8 seasons = 0% direct reference by what Marzi said. And as much as love Bob Newhart, I really think Dallas is the most likely reference (this coming from someone who hasn't even seen Dallas, but is just familiar with certain famous attributes, this being one of them). Having said that, though, I don't think there's a strong enough case to put that specific one in the article, so I don't think there's any other way to do it, no matter how much I hate general, ambiguous references (I usually don't find 'em very useful). (Though I do maintain that Dallas did it first, in the 85-86 season (Newhart ended in 1990), and that they've referenced Dallas at least once in the past, with the [[Caleb Rentpayer]] thing.) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 22:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::The Trope link, on the other hand, makes a general reference much more useful. Anonny satisfied! -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 23:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::First of all, it would be 800% AS direct, not 800% more direct. Secondly Newhart presumes the entire series was a dream (and entirely for comedic effect, not even pretending to be realistic). If marzipan had said the entire series was a dream, then it would make sense. Dallas is the only series to have had a "Dream Season" which is what Marzipan says -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
:::::The only point I was proving is that Dallas is not the only show that has done it (while Dallas may have been first). All I is saying is that it shouldn't be a specific reference. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Since when is TV Tropes Wiki a reliable source for anything? -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 19:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Since TBC started making reference to TV tropes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Show me where they did this. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 00:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, there's two of them in this very toon, and tons of others all over the place. they spoof pop culture a lot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh. I thought you meant they referenced the TV Tropes website itself, in which case a link would be appropriate. As it is I don't see why the links shouldn't be replaced with Wikipedia articles that explain the concepts. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]]
::::::::::::Because tropes does a better job at documenting and describing them, and is more specific. that's why. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::True as that may be, that's not my point. Maybe I wasn't being clear enough. My point in my original edit was that I don't see how TV Tropes is a reliable source. I mean, Wikipedia's not perfect, but I'd take it over a site that openly says it has few standards and is mostly for fun any day. I mean, yeah, it's kinda entertaining sometimes, and I get the feeling some people are actually trying provide objective information about common plot devices and media conventions, after visiting that site for nearly two years I get the impression that a large chunk of the contributors are more concerned with informing everyone that Doctor Who/Avatar The Last Airbender/Discworld/some furry webcomic is awesome and every other piece of fiction ever written is crap. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 02:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:Other shows have done it, but Dallas is arguably the most well-known, especially given the Brothers Chaps' ages. Not to mention, that website doesn't even mention it, just a bunch of anime references...I don't know if it's really what fits in here.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 13:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
::To elaborate, the Newhart ending was itself a parody of the tendency of 80s TV shows to turn to the "it was all a dream" copout to throw away story elements they didn't like, resurrect characters, move the show to Jupiter, etc. That ending is also widely regarded as one of the best moments in TV history. In contrast, there was a lot of aggravation that Dallas decided to just throw away an entire season's worth of story as just being a dream, which Marzipan's annoyance definitely alludes to. Frankly, I think the mathematically questionable attempts to say that it refers to this or that ought to give way to what folks older than 20 or so will recognize as a clear Dallas reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 13:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Just how does TV Tropes do "a better job at documenting and describing [concepts]" than this very wiki? To me, that website is the very definition of ""[[unnatural|an organized forum for people to shout out their ideas all at the same time]]": it's a complete mess of potentially interesting information, which overwhelms the reader due to a complete lack of standards and formatting. You claim that we should make ANY specific references to any examples of "dream seasons" (what's wrong with mentioning just two or three extremely well-known examples?), yet then link to some website that attempts to list every single use of dreams in all the films, TV programmes, anime, manga and video games that it can think of? Do we really need to pass the buck this badly? Instead, we should all take a look at a similar problem that happened a while ago with [[bottom 10]]; the problem involved "songs that try to pass off la la's, na na's, and doot do's as legit lyrics". There are a million songs this statement could be referencing, so it was decided that we would only make three well-known references and leave it at that. A similar solution should be taken with this article; we add a sentence to the fact along the lines of "Notable example of 'dream seasons' include Dallas, Newhart and Roseanne," and an invisble comment asking people not to make any more references. It might be OK to keep the link to TV Tropes if enough people want to, but at least don't leave our explaination of the concept as it is. It just looks terribly generic and wishy-washy unless the link is followed. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'd forgotten about ''Roseanne''. ''Dallas'' is the only example I find where the writers wrote themselves into a corner and out of desperation wiped out the whole season. I would not support listing ''Newhart'', as that final episode wiped out the entire ''series'' and was played for laughs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
It just occurred to me that I forgot to add an alternative to the Tropes link, so it looks like I'm complaining instead of trying to improve the article. Sorry about that. For the record, I think that a general explanation of the concept with one or two references to the most popular examples, like what somebody suggested above, would suffice. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]]

Can we just add at the end of the reference a couple of examples? Just make it "Marzipan's remark that the entire last season was just a dream refers to a gimmick employed by several television series in which such a revelation is made, usually in the last episode of that season, in series such as ''Dallas'' or ''Roseanne''." I think it would make the reference better, while still leaving it open ended. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 03:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's Shoes? ==

Think it should be noted somewheres that Homestar's feet/shoes act like (and are referred to as) shoes in this toon? As far as I know, there's been a dispute over whether Homestar wears shoes or not, and this, especially the puppet show, could possibly confirm that he does.-Nonuser mster24
:Or that he doesn't. Note the fact that in that one closeup, his supposed "shoes" have those gnarly wart-looking things and his leg region is shown to have hair, despite the fact that there's no clear boundary between his "shoes/feet" and his legs. Just another wrench in the works-of-clearing-up-ambiguity is my guess. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Either way, we include references to his shoes on [[Homestar Runner's Pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::in the toon about Homestar's pants, it says that he has blue soles glued onto his feet. but yet, here it suggests that he has actual shoes. this is another one of the major goofs of Homestarrunner.com. [[User:Origonalname]]

== Foot Pelts ==
Is this easter egg another instance of [[Strong Sad]]'s implied [[death]]? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 00:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Implied amputation isn't implied death. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::It could go here though -> [[Severed Body Parts]] -02:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Why not? In [[modeling]], Strong Sad informs Strong Bad that poachers have been after his feet.
:: No, no, no, no, no! You people misintuprited this. Strong Bad is walking around in "someone else's slighty larger foot pelts", and he likes the feeling of it. In [[diorama]], it was revealed that Strong Sad wore Dr. Soolnd's Medicated Shoes, so those might not even be his feet, but his "slighty larger foot pelts" that Homestar mentioned. He is wearing Strong Sa's SHOES! At least, that's my inturpritation of the joke. Oh well, maybe not... --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 19:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
== Cow Clips ==

The "Cow Clips" Homestar uses on his shoes are Binder Clips, also known as Bulldog Clips.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binder_clip --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 19:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:The transcript already calls them binder clips. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's easy to see how someone could go from "bulldog clips" to "cow clips", but to me, it just seemed like some random association Homestar was making. {{unsigned|24.117.107.182|00:14 6 Feb 2009}}

== Swiss-ness ==

"swiss miss" is a brand of hot cocoa and other food-esque items. to be included in real-world references? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 20:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:And [[Wikipedia:Swiss Miss (disambiguation)|many other things]] as well. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Missle vs. Missal ==

When Homestar says "today's missle," I think he is actually saying "Today's Missal," a publication found at nearly every Catholic church. See: http://www.ocp.org/products/tm Also see the Wikipedia article on Missal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missal
Should this be included in explanations or maybe real-world references?
:It's a [[malapropism]] for "missive". "Missile" has the benefit of being one letter off. "Missal" does not. The pronunciation is the same. I say "missile" is fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think "missal". Mostly because both are written materials, a much more closely related semantic field than "missile" would be. (Although, one could make the argument that Homestar misread a teleprompter or queue card).
::In [[senorial day]] when there was a homonym debate, we put a footnote. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 03:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::That was a stretch, this is a bigger one. There's no reason to throw in an uncommon term like missal when the common term will suffice. Barring some sort of direct mention to the contrary by the Brothers Chaps, I don't see how a footnote would be necessary.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::As I stated above, at least missive and missal share the common semantic domain of written documents, whereas missile does not. And considering that TBC do have some Catholic roots to them, it's very likely that they could have meant missal. I do not think you can simply dismiss one over the other without some solid rationale for doing so. At the very least, "missal" could be added parenthetically. {{unsigned|24.117.107.182|00:02 6 Feb 2009}}
::::*Also, this is further complicated by the possibility that this is a portmanteau of "missive" and "epistle". {{unsigned|24.117.107.182|00:09 6 Feb 2009}}
::::To be extremely nitpicky, they're homo''phones''. If they were homonyms, we wouldn't be having this discussion. ;) I stick with "missile", but a large part of that is the fact that I had never heard of the word "missal" before this conversation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Long Pants ==

Remember when Strong Bad asserted that Homestar "simply has blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet"? Should that be mentioned?
:Since they don't mention it in this toon, I don't see why it should be mentioned in the wiki. Also, this toon clearly indicates that Homestar is wearing shoes, since he mentions them by their brand name, and he shows a couple of larger versions of the same shoes.--[[User:Cheesius|-- Cheesius]] 22:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Power forward ==

Why isn't [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_forward_(basketball) power forward] explained? [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 23:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:Who knows? Feel free to add it if you'd like. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 23:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::I added the explanation, and I also explained what it means to "post up" and I clarified "in the paint" a bit, but I'm sure what I wrote could be worded better. By the way, this is my first time editing. [[User:Willstar|Willstar]] 05:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Art Stockton ==

I hear "Technical foul ''on'' Stockton", not "Art Stockton". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:I would agree that that makes SLIGHTLY more sense, however, the "T" is clearly audible. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
::it makes entirely more sense. In that "On Stockton" makes sense, and "Art Stockton" doesn't. Also, that "clearly audilbe T" isn't. I hear "on" every time.[[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Is it "Art"? I think so, but I'm not 100% sure. What I ''am'' 100% sure of is that it is ''not'' "On". And even if it was, who puts the stress on a preposition? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, and one more thing. "Art" makes ''exactly'' as much sense as "Stockton" in this context — it's short for "Arthur". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Definitely "Art Stockton" rather than "on".
::::After cramming my left ear up to my computer speaker and listening to it like 7 times, I deduced that it's "on Stockton." {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I hear on, myself. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 03:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Sounds like on to me, he's just talking like a referee.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Just listened to it again. I don't know how on earth someone could interpret that as "Art." It's clearly "on." There's not even Homestar's usually twisted version of R present, let alone a T sound. Short O is something Homestar is not known for having trouble with, and that's clearly what he's saying. Might want to clean the wax out, guys.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 05:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::No, it's clearly "Art." Try turning the volume up on your speakers or something. {{unsigned|24.117.107.182|00:07 6 Feb 2009}}
::::::::Uncertain on how clear the "T" is, but a) it sounds ''exactly'' like when Homestar attempts an "R" (or "awr"), b) there isn't a clear "N" either, and c) I re-stress the stress. If it was "On", one would think the stress would be on "Stockton", but it isn't; it's on that first word. If one was to say (as though it were a name) "Art Stockton", the stress would more likely be on "Art". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Other possibilities, BTW, include "Arn" (short for "Arnold") or "Ott" (short for "Otto"). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::: Ok, although I've clearly heard "on Stockton" every time, I went ahead and sampled that part of the toon and slowed it way down in Audacity. I think it makes it very clear that he's saying "On Stockton." Here's a link to the mp3 so you can hear it yourself and decide: [http://www.efn.org/~jbl/hsr/stockton.mp3] --[[User:Cheesius|-- Cheesius]] 22:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::: He's saying it funny because he's talking like a referee would in such a situation. "This action...on XX...this penalty!" No offense to anyone, but I think you're crazy if you're hearing "Art." There's nothing even vaguely resembling it there, nor does it make any sense in that context in a way that would lead to a punchline.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 22:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::He's clearly saying "'''on''' Stockton," because he's assessing the foul ''on'' Stockton. Perhaps you're hearing "Art" or "Arn" because of the echo. And for that matter, the most well-known player named Stockton to ever play basketball was ''John'' Stockton. [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 09:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Still doesn't sound like "on" to me. Besides, who said he's referring to a basketball player? Homestar's playing "baskeeball". Which, apparently, uses first downs. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm seeing what looks like consensus here. Suggest removing the extraneous footnote. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 23:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
: What consensus are you seeing? The footnote stays. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::Agreed... this isn't consensus... and he doesn't say "on". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, it seems like <strike>two</strike> three people think it's Art and a lot more think it's on (.. and it is), which is more of a consensus than cases that have been called consensus before. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.187|132.183.151.187]] 00:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::And by a lot I mean, like, 7 or so... -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.187|132.183.151.187]] 00:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think you need to learn the not-so-subtle difference between consensus and a vote. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::The difference is consensus is what's accepted here and vote is not. Talking about prior cases on the wiki would never refer to a vote, unless STUFF is involved. And to address a separate issue, one of the arguments for Art is that the T is supposedly clearly audible, but then it's also claimed that "Arn" is possible. (Even if it were "Art", I think "Arn" is much less likely. It's a much less common nickname, imo). So which is it? Audible T or no T? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.187|132.183.151.187]] 00:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I am unable to make out the consonant fully at all. I think it's a "T" and don't at all believe it's an "N"; I merely suggested "Arn" as an attempt at compromise. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::K, well, if nobody seems to think it's Arn, I think the footnote is better with just Art. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.187|132.183.151.187]] 01:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Jay, you're hearing the "T" in Stockton and attaching it to the first word. It's '''on'''. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:19, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Right, I'm hearing the "T" in "Stockton" ''before'' the "S". 9_9 --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:00, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Think about it from a common sense perspective. They're trying to be funny: what's funny about "Art" or "Arn" or "Ott?" Nothing. There's no punchline; even when the Brothers Chaps are random, there's some sort of punchline to it, like Homsar's nonsensical response to Strong Sad asking him if he was going to say anything in DNA Evidence. Their references are always direct, joke A to popular culture point B. Stockton makes sense as a reference to John Stockton, an NBA player; Art Stockton makes no sense, and isn't funny. I've never, ever heard anyone use "Arn" as short for Arnold, or "Ott" as short for Otto, ever. I think that if you have to stretch the logic way out and create a web of connections to justify a reference, then barring a direct mention from the Brothers Chaps in a commentary or something it shouldn't be considered a legitimate reference.
Good grief, I can't believe I'm still going on about this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
: What's funny about "On"? I already said I believed it was "Art" and only introduced the others as potential compromises. What reference? And the punchline was most obviously the "first down" part (if not the part where the puppet is appearing ''at all''.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::As I and the anony above said already, he's talking like a referee in a football game (randomness with a punchline) assessing a technical foul against "Stockton" (Marzipan). It's very simple. Don't make things so complicated in this; like I said, the more you try to find some sort of twisted web of logic to justify an extreme reference, the less sense it will all make. The most obvious reference is probably the right one, again barring something to the contrary from the creators.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 05:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::In what way am I making this complicated? I'm simply saying that what I hear is closer to "Art" than "On" and I don't see how making it "On" makes it any funnier as you previously said. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with Big Dog. He's saying "on Stockton." As I said before, I think you're all hearing the echo and it's muffling what's actually being said. For the referee to say "Art Stockton" doesn't make any sense, even when it comes to TBC being random. [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 06:56, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Sure it does. Think of it this way, what if he said "False start, Larry Smith, five yard penalty"? would you say that that made so sense? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that does make sense, but like I said, Homestar's playing basketball (even if he pronounced it weird), and John Stockton is the most famous "Stockton" to ever play basketball. That being said, to say "Art Stockton" doesn't make any sense at all, even for TBC. I just don't see how anyone could think it's anything other than the referee assessing the foul "'''on''' Stockton." [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 19:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It makes every bit as much sense as [[Happy Hallow-Day|every]] [[Cool Things|other]] [[cheat talk|time]] TBC randomly mention the name of a character who doesn't exist, so yeah, this fits with TBC's style entirely. Anyway, the argument's pretty moot by now. You've already essentially won. The transcript says "On", which it did not do when this topic was created. The footnote is there to show that there is a disagreement. Removing the footnote would show that the people who originally argued for the footnote's point have recanted — which is obviously not the case. This is this Wiki's standard. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, there's no footnote in Jibblies 2, even though the arguers didn't recant. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.34|132.183.138.34]] 20:01, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::To add to the counterargument, your claim that "it makes no sense because he's playing basketball" actually goes to support our side... the whole sentence is supposed to not make sense. I mean, have you ever seen anyone get a first down in basketball? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:37, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Which is the entire point, which is why "Technical foul, on Stockton" is what he said. He's a referee, calling a foul, albeit in a football-ref style with a football penalty. Which is the entire joke. Can we please vote on this and get it over with? I think this rivals "gamble/gambol" for most inane debate ever on this wiki.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Voting has never really been Wiki policy outside of the now-decommissioned STUFF (which this wouldn't fall under anyway). And I reiterate: if nothing changes from how it is now (as opposed to when the debate started), you win this debate. So you asking to vote comes off as nothing more than attempting to hide that there ''is'' a debate. (After all, the "gambol" footnote is still on [[Senorial Day]], is it not?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:For whatever it matters at this late point in the debate, I hear "on". My theory as to why people hear "art": Homestar uses a rather gravelly voice which makes the "n" sound more articulated than it really is. Maybe? Just a thought. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
::As a football referee, "Art" makes just as much sense. The "on" would be implicit, and the foul is on "Art Stockton". If "False start, Larry Smith, five yard penalty" makes sense, then so does this. Or i'll make it even clearer. If "Technical foul, Larry Smith, first down!" makes sense, so does this. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The thing is, though, foot ball refs give penalties in the format of "(Foul), '''Number (jersey number)''', Offense/Defense, (penalty)." They do not say "(foul), '''(player name)''', (penalty)." So if you want to talk about what makes sense, neither "on" nor "Art" make sense. Also, it should be noted that no one named Art Stockton ever played basketball in anything above high school. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== "Visible Seam" in goofs? ==

I don't see the visible seam on my screen, no matter how much I zoom in. It's possible that it's just my monitor, so I'm not going to erase that entry or anything, but I just thought I'd bring that up. Does anyone else see it in the current version of the toon? Maybe it's a fixed goof? --[[User:Cheesius|-- Cheesius]] 22:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:It has been fixed. I didn't see it, so I changed the section to "Fixed Goofs" and reworded it. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::It hasn't been fixed because it was never broken. It is simply untrue. I have removed it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:43, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

== Inside references. ==

Does this toon somehow contribute to the idea of Homestar wearing long pants?

The big shoes he held up go over his foot to where his ankles would be, but his shoe puppets only flapped like sandal soles with inlays for tongues.

== That's a lot of emails ==
I'm not sure if this is more notable here or in [[Hremail 7]], if it's notable at all, but if this the two emails' numbering is taken at face value and Homestar was supposed to have checked 1,993 emails between 2001 and 2009 (assuming this email isn't taking place "in the future", which there's no evidence of) he'd having to be checking on average somewhere between four and five emails a week over the course of eight years. Anyone think this is worth noting anywhere? - [[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 21:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
: The thing is, the numbering is intentionally wonking. There is no evidence he checked any emails besides the ones we have seen.
::I think jumping from 64, all the way to 2000 is a bit wonky. I think they should have had a more suttle number, like one in the mid hundreds.

== Compu-turds ==

Does any one but me fin it strange that from hremail 64, allo the way to hremail 2000 Homestar has the same computer? and why havent he seen hardly any Happy Hremail? I hate how the Brothers Chaps can really screw up time lines. [[User:Origonalname]]

:This talk page is for the discussion of the accompanying article on the wiki. The [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum] would be an appropriate place to bring this up. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 22:23, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::I would do that, but I simply suck at making threads. It would be better if some one could who is better at that kind of stuff could do it, and then tell me.

==First Down==

Since all of the basketball terms have explinations, shouldn't the concept of a first down be explained? And I feel like the use of a term for the wrong sport should be referenced as a gag somehow, but I'm not sure what catergory it falls under. Any ideas?
:Yeah, definitely. Surprised that wasn't already there. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
::I was kinda hoping someone else would add it in but no one did, so I put in a very basic explination of a first down. I'm no good at explaining sports though, so I think someone else should probably fix it up.

== Fat-OW!-lity ==

You think it is worth mentioning that the OUCH that appears at the end of the ''Mortal Kombat'' sequnce is reminicent of the words "Fatality" that appear in ''Mortal Kombat''?

Talk:I really like your costume

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== Name ==
Hey could someone mind changing the name of this article from ''Hey,X. I really like your X costume'' to ''"Hey, X, I Really Like Your X Costume"''. I messed up when I was writing the article and I don't know how to change it. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 19:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
== Delete? ==
I think that [[What are you supposed to be?]] handles this topic much more thoroughly. Any thoughts? {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 22:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Well I actually made this a separate article because this one joke has been used over and over again as itself. I feel it should be considered a running gag.[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 22:27, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:I have to agree with StrongAwesome. The line itself can be mentioned on the "What are you supposed to be" page, maybe even as a subsection, but it's basically the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
::I stand on saying that we should keep it a separate page, however if we do decide to merge this with "What are you supposed to be?" then I agree with you Jay in that it should at least be a subsection.--[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 03:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

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I really like your costume

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:37:54 GMT

Geonightman:

[[File:Ween 09 Teaser.png|thumb|"I really like your covered all in black ink costumes."]]
[[Homestar Runner]] often will mistake a costume that someone (including [[Identity Confusion|himself]]) is wearing for another person. This started as a gag on for Halloween and has happens on several instances outside of Halloween toons.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut''':[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] - '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] - '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] again- '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] yet, again- '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
* [[Most in the Graveyard]] - '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
* [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser]] - '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
* [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] - '''HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
* Email [[yes, wrestling]] - '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from Fat Albert costume.

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== Name ==

Hey could someone mind changing the name of this article from ''Hey,X. I really like your X costume'' to ''"Hey, X, I Really Like Your X Costume"''. I messed up when I was writing the article and I don't know how to change it. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 19:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I really like your costume

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:34:20 GMT

Geonightman:

[[File:Ween 09 Teaser.png|thumb|"I really like your covered all in black ink costumes."]]
[[Homestar Runner]] often will mistake a costume that someone (including [[Identity Confusion|himself]]) is wearing for another person. This started as a gag on for Halloween and has happens on several instances outside of Halloween toons.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut''':[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] yet, again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
* [[Most in the Graveyard]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
* [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
* [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
* Email [[yes, wrestling]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from Fat Albert costume.

I really like your costume

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:33:49 GMT

Geonightman:

[[File:Ween 09 Teaser.png|"I really like your covered all in black ink costumes."]]
[[Homestar Runner]] often will mistake a costume that someone (including [[Identity Confusion|himself]]) is wearing for another person. This started as a gag on for Halloween and has happens on several instances outside of Halloween toons.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut''':[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] yet, again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
* [[Most in the Graveyard]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
* [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
* [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
* Email [[yes, wrestling]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from Fat Albert costume.

I really like your costume

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:32:39 GMT

Geonightman:

[[Homestar Runner]] often will mistake a costume that someone (including [[Identity Confusion|himself]]) is wearing for another person. This started as a gag on for Halloween and has happens on several instances outside of Halloween toons.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut''':[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] yet, again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
* [[Most in the Graveyard]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
* [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
* [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
* Email [[yes, wrestling]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from Fat Albert costume.

I really like your costume

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:29:18 GMT

Geonightman: Created page with 'Homestar Runner often will mistake a costume that someone (including Identity Confusion) is wearing for another person. This started as a gag on for Halloween and…'

[[Homestar Runner]] often will mistake a costume that someone (including [[himself|Identity Confusion]]) is wearing for another person. This started as a gag on for Halloween and has happens on several instances outside of Halloween toons.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut''':[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
* [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] yet, again- HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
* [[Most in the Graveyard]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
* [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
* [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT: Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
* Email [[yes, wrestling]] - HOMESTAR RUNNER: Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from Fat Albert costume.

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Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:14:08 GMT

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{{featuredarticle}}
I know Wikipedia is prone to long article titles such as this, but can we shorten it to something like '''Costume confusion''' or something like that? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Let's get a group consensus, but I just couldn't think of anything else to call it. I like your suggestion. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if we keep the title, it at least needs a question mark. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I don't think you can have one in a URL, but i could be wrong {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::You can have one in a wiki title, which will translate to some sort of code when put in a URL. See: [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Right. Definitely ''with'' the question mark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Finished all the Wikipedia links, added [[Sketchbook (museum)]] and de-stubed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:16, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Featured? ==

Are you sure this article is "featured" material? It's very well written, but the article is sort of a stretch as it is, let alone to be the featured article. Maybe I'm just crazy. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 07:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think in some ways the fact that it's on a somewhat obscure element of the Halloween cartoons (which is nonetheless a constantly recurring theme in them) may have helped in be chosen as a feature: while our norm is to feature articles that document major themes, we like to show the obscure stuff, too. When I supported this article, my reasoning was that it sets up Halloween by introducing a recurring theme in Halloween cartoons. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmmm, seems like a pretty good idea. This is just sort of a fun page anyway. Or maybe I just think that because I dreamed that I said it last night. Man, I need to get a life. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 23:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

==better name==
doesnt this page need a better name? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::Also, look above, the idea for a shorter name was proposed and never got any support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
oh. now that i read it, that other name sounds better. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think "''Who'' are you supposed to be?" could be a better name. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with Homestar. The other name from above is just bleh, but [[Who are you supposed to be?]] is good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:::[[Who are you supposed to be?]] doesn't really cover when characters dress up as something other than a person or think that someone dressed up as someone other than a person. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I think "What are you supposed to be?" sounds kinda cool... {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:::::I think this conversation is about a year old. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Carmen Freakin Sandiego!!! ==

He was about to say Sandiego, NOT Miranda. He said it in the exact same style as he did with Sandiego. Just because Miranda happened first, does not mean he was going to refer to it. OK? Is it ok for me to even explain my reason *sarcasm*. *sigh* Im changing it--[[Special:Contributions/24.224.25.70|24.224.25.70]] 04:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:The transcript and everything else has him saying "Carmen-freaking-Mir-", as though he's about to say "Miranda". which mirrors a line from [[Homestarloween Party]]. And, that's what I hear, too. The toon is also old enough that, had this been wrong, it'd have likely been fixed by now. Unless the DVD version changed something. Beats me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:51, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== I really like your H*RWiki costume... ==

I think that there should be a "Hey ''X'',I really like your ''X'' costume. It is '''clearly''' a running gag. It has been seen in most of the Halloween toons, D-Ween Short Shorts, and SBemails too. I think it has enough to make a full page. I also had no Idea where to post this so I thought it would be best to put it here. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Here is an (as far as I know) incomplete list of all of the "I really like" jokes. I think the page should have what Homestar thinks their costume is, what their costume ''actually'' is, on the bottom of course a VARIATIONS section, and possibly an explanation of WHY he thinks they are that costume.
*The House That Gave Sucky Treats
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
*3 Times Halloween Funjob
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
 '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
 '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
*Most in the Graveyard
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
*Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
*Decemberween Short Shorts
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
*Email yes, wrestling
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from ''Fat Albert'' costume.
[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Well thought out! I like it. Not sure about the name, but go for page creation and if people don't like the name we'll talk about it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
::I think the important thing to keep in mind is, how does that interact with the current page. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.160|132.183.140.160]] 17:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
::: 2 things. I said in the first post I do not know WHERE to put this so that is why I did it here. Second this page mentions Homestar saying his confusion.[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 19:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:What are you supposed to be?

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:07:31 GMT

Geonightman: /* I really like your H*RWiki costume... */

action figure

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:58:44 GMT

Geonightman:

{{sbenav|42}}

[[Image:sbemail42.PNG|thumb|Smells like peanut action!]]

Kyle Rechsteiner asks Strong Bad what he would look like as an action figure.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, September 16, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:45

'''Page Title:''' COMPY 386

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}, {{dvd|Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD|notitle=true}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{singing}'' Doo doo do doo, doo duh doo ''doo''!

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
If someone made a Strong Bad 
action figure, what kind of 
awesome stuff would it be able 
to do? 
 
Kyle Rechsteiner 
San Mateo, CA</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Camateos, Scamateos" instead of "San Mateo, CA".}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' Oh man, Kyle. My action figure would have it all. First of all:

''{Cut to a screen where Strong Bad's action figure appears as he details it, while the music Strong Bad was humming at the beginning of the email plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{voiceover}'' It'd look exactly like me...

''{The action figure pops into view. The figure has very large muscles, is quite tall, and has a head resembling Strong Bad's that is considerably smaller in proportion to the body than Strong Bad's actual head is. As Strong Bad continues describing the figure, the camera zooms in and pans across its chest, then over its head, before returning to the first shot.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ...you know, in terms of his physique, and the relative size of his head to his body, it'd be exactly the same. ''{a croissant appears in the figure's hand and folds out into a star shape}'' And of course I'd come armed to the teeth with my Chinese throwing croissant! ''{says "croissant" with a heavy French accent}'' Then, I'd be able to shoot sparks from my mouth, you know like ''{the screen darkens and sparks come out of the action figure's mouth while Strong Bad makes a grinding noise}'' ...it'd make a noise like that. And when you push down on my head, there'd be ''{the action figure's head is pushed down, and the fists go up}'' BOOFFF! Double Deuce action! ''{the action figure's fists go up and down several times}'' And then of course, you could take the head off, too, ''{the action figure's head pops off}'' and there'd be a hole where you could pour like, motor oil, ''{black liquid pours into the action figure}'' or grapefruit juice, ''{whitish-green liquid pours in}'' or whatever kinda junk you wanna put in there. ''{the action figure's head comes back on}'' And then, turn out the lights... ''{the screen darkens and the action figure's muscles glow}'' ...Glow-in-the-dark abs, man! Oh! Oh! And get it wet ''{the action figure is dunked in a glass of water}'' and you get SEVERE KNIFE FIGHT DAMAGE ''{scars appear on the action figure}'' like magic appears! But that's not all! ''{the action figure's left leg falls off}'' UH-OH! Battle damage! And finally, switch to the dispenser fist ''{the action figure lifts its fist, which has a hole in the front}'' to ooze radioactive goo! ''{green slime oozes out of the dispenser fist}''

''{Cut back to the Compy 386}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' I think those things would sell like hotcakes, man. Ooh! Especially if they ''smelled'' like hotcakes! Anyways, I tried to make one of my own one time and it didn't turn out as good as my imagination.

''{Strong Bad holds up a peanut with pipe cleaners for arms and a painted face with cheap plastic googly eyes}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Basically all it has is...smells-like-peanut action. I'm lookin' for some licensees. ''{starts playing with the action figure}'' Doo doo doooo! Hey Homestar, get away from here! Holy crap!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* At the end you can click on the [[Peanut Strong Bad]] and see the package of the cool Strong Bad [[Action Figure Character Variations|action figure]]. Keep clicking to see some more characters as action figures. All the toys are made by [[Cheap as Free]] Toys, are for ages 3–5, and cost $11.01. The characters and package blurbs are:
** Strong Bad
*** Exciting Action Man!
*** Chinese Throwing [[Croissant]]!
*** Severe Double Deuce Action!
*** Smells Like Hotcakes!
**** If you zoom in on it, you'll see that the "M" is partially transposed over the "E". In fact, the entire "smells like hotcakes" sticker has poorly spaced text, perhaps due to a missing font when the Flash file was created.
** [[Coach Z]]
*** Green Colored Hero!
*** High-Pitched Super Sonic Whistle!
*** [[Butt-Patting]] Action
** [[Strong Mad]]
*** Action Toy!
*** He's The Biggest One!
*** Friends With [[The Cheat]]!
** [[Pom Pom]]
*** Action Fighting Guy!
*** Secret [[Cell Phones|Cell Phone]]!
*** The Ladies Choice!
** [[Strong Sad]]
*** Action-Like Figurine!
*** Atomic Calligraphy Pen!
*** Extreme Whining And Crying!
** [[Homestar]]
*** Super Action Doll
*** Spiked Battle Marshmallows
*** [[Lack of Visible Arms|No Arms]]! Like Real Life!
** Peanut Strong Bad
*** Homemade Peanut Warrior
*** Museum Quality
*** Smells Like Peanut Action!

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*All of the toys are labeled [[$11.01]]. They are priced this way because [[Matt Chapman]]'s birthday is November 1st. (This was revealed by [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] in the [[flag day]] [[flag day#Commentary Transcript|commentary]].)

===Remarks===
*At the beginning, Strong Bad is humming the same tune that is in the background when it shows the action figures.
*Strong Mad's action figure doesn't have the 'M' logo on its chest.
*Strong Bad's action figure's eyes are the old style.

===Goofs===
*At the end, you can still adjust the Compy's contrast through Strong Bad's glove.
*In Strong Mad's action figure, part of his abs overlap his teeth.

===Inside References===
*The "Chinese Throwing Croissant" is likely a reference to the end of [[3 Wishes]], when Strong Bad starts to ramble on about how the horns in his drawing look like [[croissants]] and how he'd really like a couple of them. He even pronounces the word "croissants" with a heavy French accent here, which he also did in 3 Wishes.
*The action figure's "[[Double Deuce]]" action first appeared in [[the bird]].

===Real-World References===
*All of the action figures are modeled strongly after the line of toys based on [[Wikipedia:He-Man|''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'']]. In particular, they all have:
**Identical bodies from the same toy mold with a different head and paint job for different characters (except Strong Mad, who is bigger and has no neck, Strong Bad, who has boxing gloves instead of hands, and Homestar, who has no arms)
**[[Exaggerated Strong Bad|Exaggerated muscles]]
**Limited poses and movement (except for rotating limbs)
**The "Battle Damage" could also refer to the design of the He-Man action figures. The legs were held onto the body by a rubber band through the pelvis. This rubber band was prone to breaking, causing the legs to fall off. Also, one of the He-Man figures released had a chest plate with a spring-loaded part that would rotate when struck, so that it looked like it was dented.
*The sparking mouth was actually used in some '80s toys, such as [[Wikipedia:The Real Ghostbusters|The Real Ghostbusters]] Pull Speed Ahead ghost.
*Most modern action figures and related toys refer to "battle damage" as a special version of a character or vehicle modeled to look as if it were in a recent and brutal fight. However, it's more likely that Strong Bad's action figure battle damage concept is referring to the [[Wikipedia:Battletech|Battletech]] line of 'action figure vehicles' by Tyco. These figures had 'blast panels' that, when struck, would cause parts of the toy to fly off (commercials would showcase the toy's "one weakness--'battle damage!'"). In fact, the Clan Hunchback IIC had a battle damage effect exactly like Strong Bad's concept (the figure's left leg falling off). Battle damage was also used for some Gundam figures.
*The Chinese Throwing Croissants may be a reference to some old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles action figures which came with a pizza that compressed down then rotated to turn it into a 4 pronged pizza shuriken. A similar weapon was given to their rat sensei, Splinter, which was a wedge of cheese that unfolded into a knife.

===Fast Forward===
*The tune that plays throughout the email returns in the [[Ab-Abber 2000|Ab-Abber]] commercial in [[suntan]], in [[army]] in the [[Firebert]] action figure Easter egg, in the Strong Badman sequence in [[alternate universe]], and during the [[Race to the End of the Race]] in [[Homestar Ruiner]].
*The peanut Strong Bad action figure appears again in [[2 emails]] and [[diorama]].
*The Strong Bad and Strong Sad action figures appear again in [[rock opera]].

== DVD Version ==
{{c|email=true}} This commentary is only available on the [[Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD]].

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' ''{in a sultry, [[radio|NPR-style]] voice}'' Welcome to DVD time with Mike and Matt.

'''MIKE:''' ''{in a voice similar enough to Matt's that it is difficult to tell them apart}'' Oh, yes. I will talk in a voice such as this as well.

'''MATT:''' ''{continuing the NPR voice}'' Oh. Maybe we should...go ahead and stop it now.

'''MIKE:''' ''{also continuing}'' I'm gonna keep going,—

'''MATT:''' ''{underneath, in his normal voice}'' All right.

'''MIKE:''' — you can stop if you'd like.

'''MATT:''' Okay.

'''MIKE:''' All right. So this email, Matt...

'''MATT:''' Strong Bad was singing the song from the commercial for his action figure later as his sbemail, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' ''{back to his normal voice}'' It's true! And you know what, I think, uh, Rechsteiner was—is the Steiner brothers' real last name. The wrestlers?

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' Really?

'''MIKE:''' I think so.

'''MATT:''' That's appropriate; Strong Bad is a ''{pronounces the 't'}'' wrestler!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' He's a wrestle''man''!

'''MATT:''' Yeah! ''{the imaginary Strong Bad action figure has out its Chinese throwing croissant}'' Remember the— ''{Mike begins snickering}'' two brief emails of Strong Bad liking croissants?

'''MIKE:''' Uh-huh. We should bring that back.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Next Strong Bad appearance.

'''MATT:''' ''{the imaginary Strong Bad action figure has just finished its mouth-sparking}'' Did my, uh—did that...Big Rex, that Go—Godzilla-type toy you got me, did he also make sparks? In addition to smoking?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, you put cooking oil in his mouth and he—or in his head—and he smoked.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' I think he did spark, too. And did he walk?

'''MATT:''' Uhh...yeah! He walked. He was a multi-faceted...—

'''MIKE:''' He was a good—

'''MATT:''' —Rex.

'''MIKE:''' —that was a good...Christmas present I got you. ''{laughs}'' When you were, like, 20, ''{laughs}'' and I was like 25.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. It was a good...

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' I dunno how I was five years older than you at that point ''{Matt laughs}'' when I'm only three years older than you.

''{they both laugh}''

'''MATT:''' Well, you know, ''{Mike says something unintelligible}'' we weren't as close back then...''{Mike laughs}'' in more ways than one.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' I was more mature.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. ''{short pause} {referring to the action figure's "radioactive ooze"}'' Uh...we still use that gooo sound effect.

'''MIKE:''' There were some bad hiss—

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' We've got rid of a lot of the noise,—

'''MIKE:''' —yeah—

'''MATT:''' yeah.

'''MIKE:''' —we just heard it.

'''MATT:''' Uh, we had a plan at one point to give away little Smells-Like-Peanut-Action Strong Bads with, uh, T-shirt purchases.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Yeah, we were gonna make a kit, right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Like, give 'em a little peanut, and a li'l' pipe cleaner, and googly eyes?

'''MATT:''' And then we would've—somebody would've had an allergic reaction and...had some—gone into anaphylactic shock. ''{Mike laughs}'' So it's pro'ly good that we didn't do that.

'''MIKE:''' ''{underneath}'' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{Mike stifles laughter throughout}'' Hey kids, here's peanuts, unsolicited, to you. ''{Mike laughs aloud}''

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:The Steiner Brothers|The Steiner Brothers]] are a wrestling tag team who debuted in 1989. Their real last name is Rechsteiner, as Mike states. They are notable for being one of only two tag teams to win the tag team championship for the WWF, WCW, and the IWGP.
*Matt's {{p|l=http://thepoptopshop.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=44&products_id=327 Big Rex}} was a Godzilla knock-off toy released by New Bright Toys in 1987. Because Mike gave it to Matt "when [he] was, like, 20," it is likely that he owns {{p|l=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uv-qYn_b7YQ/SQpNvYnU49I/AAAAAAAAAG4/Ltf21_MHxTs/s1600-h/Picture+7.png the 1993 re-release}} of the toy, which coincided with the release of [[Wikipedia:Jurassic Park (film)|''Jurassic Park'']]. It did not, as Matt asked, make sparks.
*[[Wikipedia:Anaphylaxis|Anaphylactic shock]] is the most severe reaction to peanut allergies possible and can lead to death in minutes if untreated.

== External Links ==
{{extlinks|sbemail42|youtube=EeIPK2bQcpc}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Advertisements]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:action figure

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:57:17 GMT

Geonightman: /* TMNT Ref? */

The action figure music sounds ''very'' similar to "Don't You Want Me" by Human League.

:Worth noting for sure. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

== Remarks: Removable Head/Double Deuce Action ==
<blockquote>
''It is unclear how you can take the head off the Strong Bad action figure, and still press down on it for "Double Deuce Action".''</blockquote>

Oh, oh! I can explain that easily enough! You see, the head more than likely has an inner "lip" in it, as would the neck hole. When you push down the neck's inner-lip with the head's, it activates the mechanisms in the arms resulting in the mentioned Double Deuce Action! Makes a lotta sense, doesn't it? It could ''totally'' work! {{User:Jessica Ingmann/sig}} 12:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

:Very true. Removing fun fact. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== Other Characters ==

What if the other characters had action figures? Marzipan: Looks like a broom! Battleaxe Carol! Smells like tofu! The possibilities are '''''endless'''''! {{User:Neox/sig}}

== Email Song ==

The tune that Strong Bad sings the email song to sounds very familiar. I'm sure I've heard it somewhere else on the site, but I can't remember where, and I don't see it noted anywhere on this page. Does anyone know where it's from? {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 09:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:It's indeed noted. It's the background music later on in the email and shows up again pretty much nay time that sort of scene is used again like for the [[Ab-Abber 2000]]. Somehow when Strong Bad hums it, it reminds me of Dangeresque. Dunno why. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::Also, the song Strong Bad sings/the background music for the easter egg also is strikingly similar to the Biz Cas Fri theme. Should I add that?--[[User:NintenEthan|NintenEthan]] 22:19, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== Strong Badman? ==
the action figure and the song looks like Strong Badman
:He looks like how Strong Bad imagines himself to look, which is also what Strong Badman looks like. It'd not that they're meant to look like each other, but that they both look like the same thing. If that makes any sense. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 21:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== TMNT Ref? ==

Hey anyone else think that the Chinese Throwing Croissants may be a reference to some old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles action figures. They came with a pizza that you can compress then rotate to turn it into a 4 pronged pizza shuriken. A similar weapon was given to their Rat Sensei, Splinter, which was a wedge of cheese that unfolded into a knife. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 01:27, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:If no one else has a problem with it I guess I will add it. If it gets removed please explain why on this page. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:57, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:What are you supposed to be?

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:51:07 GMT

Geonightman: /* I really like your H*RWiki costume... */

Talk:What are you supposed to be?

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:50:44 GMT

Geonightman: /* I really like your H*RWiki costume... */

{{featuredarticle}}
I know Wikipedia is prone to long article titles such as this, but can we shorten it to something like '''Costume confusion''' or something like that? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Let's get a group consensus, but I just couldn't think of anything else to call it. I like your suggestion. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if we keep the title, it at least needs a question mark. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I don't think you can have one in a URL, but i could be wrong {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::You can have one in a wiki title, which will translate to some sort of code when put in a URL. See: [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Right. Definitely ''with'' the question mark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Finished all the Wikipedia links, added [[Sketchbook (museum)]] and de-stubed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:16, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Featured? ==

Are you sure this article is "featured" material? It's very well written, but the article is sort of a stretch as it is, let alone to be the featured article. Maybe I'm just crazy. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 07:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think in some ways the fact that it's on a somewhat obscure element of the Halloween cartoons (which is nonetheless a constantly recurring theme in them) may have helped in be chosen as a feature: while our norm is to feature articles that document major themes, we like to show the obscure stuff, too. When I supported this article, my reasoning was that it sets up Halloween by introducing a recurring theme in Halloween cartoons. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmmm, seems like a pretty good idea. This is just sort of a fun page anyway. Or maybe I just think that because I dreamed that I said it last night. Man, I need to get a life. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 23:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

==better name==
doesnt this page need a better name? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::Also, look above, the idea for a shorter name was proposed and never got any support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
oh. now that i read it, that other name sounds better. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think "''Who'' are you supposed to be?" could be a better name. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with Homestar. The other name from above is just bleh, but [[Who are you supposed to be?]] is good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:::[[Who are you supposed to be?]] doesn't really cover when characters dress up as something other than a person or think that someone dressed up as someone other than a person. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I think "What are you supposed to be?" sounds kinda cool... {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:::::I think this conversation is about a year old. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Carmen Freakin Sandiego!!! ==

He was about to say Sandiego, NOT Miranda. He said it in the exact same style as he did with Sandiego. Just because Miranda happened first, does not mean he was going to refer to it. OK? Is it ok for me to even explain my reason *sarcasm*. *sigh* Im changing it--[[Special:Contributions/24.224.25.70|24.224.25.70]] 04:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:The transcript and everything else has him saying "Carmen-freaking-Mir-", as though he's about to say "Miranda". which mirrors a line from [[Homestarloween Party]]. And, that's what I hear, too. The toon is also old enough that, had this been wrong, it'd have likely been fixed by now. Unless the DVD version changed something. Beats me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:51, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== I really like your H*RWiki costume... ==

I think that there should be a "Hey ''X'',I really like your ''X'' costume. It is '''clearly''' a running gag. It has been seen in most of the Halloween toons, D-Ween Short Shorts, and SBemails too. I think it has enough to make a full page. I also had no Idea where to post this so I thought it would be best to put it here. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Here is an (as far as I know) incomplete list of all of the "I really like" jokes. I think the page should have what Homestar thinks their costume is, what their costume ''actually'' is, on the bottom of course a VARIATIONS section, and possibly an explanation of WHY he thinks they are that costume.
*The House That Gave Sucky Treats
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
*3 Times Halloween Funjob
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
 '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
 '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
*Most in the Graveyard
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
*Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
*Decemberween Short Shorts
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
*Email yes, wrestling
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from ''Fat Albert'' costume.
[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:What are you supposed to be?

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:50:02 GMT

Geonightman: /* I really like your H*RWiki costume... */

{{featuredarticle}}
I know Wikipedia is prone to long article titles such as this, but can we shorten it to something like '''Costume confusion''' or something like that? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Let's get a group consensus, but I just couldn't think of anything else to call it. I like your suggestion. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if we keep the title, it at least needs a question mark. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I don't think you can have one in a URL, but i could be wrong {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::You can have one in a wiki title, which will translate to some sort of code when put in a URL. See: [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Right. Definitely ''with'' the question mark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Finished all the Wikipedia links, added [[Sketchbook (museum)]] and de-stubed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:16, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Featured? ==

Are you sure this article is "featured" material? It's very well written, but the article is sort of a stretch as it is, let alone to be the featured article. Maybe I'm just crazy. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 07:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think in some ways the fact that it's on a somewhat obscure element of the Halloween cartoons (which is nonetheless a constantly recurring theme in them) may have helped in be chosen as a feature: while our norm is to feature articles that document major themes, we like to show the obscure stuff, too. When I supported this article, my reasoning was that it sets up Halloween by introducing a recurring theme in Halloween cartoons. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmmm, seems like a pretty good idea. This is just sort of a fun page anyway. Or maybe I just think that because I dreamed that I said it last night. Man, I need to get a life. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 23:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

==better name==
doesnt this page need a better name? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::Also, look above, the idea for a shorter name was proposed and never got any support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
oh. now that i read it, that other name sounds better. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think "''Who'' are you supposed to be?" could be a better name. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with Homestar. The other name from above is just bleh, but [[Who are you supposed to be?]] is good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:::[[Who are you supposed to be?]] doesn't really cover when characters dress up as something other than a person or think that someone dressed up as someone other than a person. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I think "What are you supposed to be?" sounds kinda cool... {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:::::I think this conversation is about a year old. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Carmen Freakin Sandiego!!! ==

He was about to say Sandiego, NOT Miranda. He said it in the exact same style as he did with Sandiego. Just because Miranda happened first, does not mean he was going to refer to it. OK? Is it ok for me to even explain my reason *sarcasm*. *sigh* Im changing it--[[Special:Contributions/24.224.25.70|24.224.25.70]] 04:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:The transcript and everything else has him saying "Carmen-freaking-Mir-", as though he's about to say "Miranda". which mirrors a line from [[Homestarloween Party]]. And, that's what I hear, too. The toon is also old enough that, had this been wrong, it'd have likely been fixed by now. Unless the DVD version changed something. Beats me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:51, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== I really like your H*RWiki costume... ==

I think that there should be a "Hey ''X'',I really like your ''X'' costume. It is '''clearly''' a running gag. It has been seen in most of the Halloween toons, D-Ween Short Shorts, and SBemails too. I think it has enough to make a full page. I also had no Idea where to post this so I thought it would be best to put it here. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Here is an (as far as I know) incomplete list of all of the "I really like" jokes. I think the page should have what Homestar thinks their costume is, what their costume ''actually'' is, on the bottom of course a VARIATIONS section, and possibly an explanation of WHY he thinks they are that costume.
*The House That Gave Sucky Treats
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
*3 Times Halloween Funjob
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
*Most in the Graveyard
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
*Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
*Decemberween Short Shorts
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
*Email yes, wrestling
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from ''Fat Albert'' costume.
[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:What are you supposed to be?

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:49:41 GMT

Geonightman: /* I really like your H*RWiki costume... */

{{featuredarticle}}
I know Wikipedia is prone to long article titles such as this, but can we shorten it to something like '''Costume confusion''' or something like that? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Let's get a group consensus, but I just couldn't think of anything else to call it. I like your suggestion. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if we keep the title, it at least needs a question mark. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I don't think you can have one in a URL, but i could be wrong {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::You can have one in a wiki title, which will translate to some sort of code when put in a URL. See: [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Right. Definitely ''with'' the question mark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Finished all the Wikipedia links, added [[Sketchbook (museum)]] and de-stubed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:16, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Featured? ==

Are you sure this article is "featured" material? It's very well written, but the article is sort of a stretch as it is, let alone to be the featured article. Maybe I'm just crazy. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 07:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think in some ways the fact that it's on a somewhat obscure element of the Halloween cartoons (which is nonetheless a constantly recurring theme in them) may have helped in be chosen as a feature: while our norm is to feature articles that document major themes, we like to show the obscure stuff, too. When I supported this article, my reasoning was that it sets up Halloween by introducing a recurring theme in Halloween cartoons. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmmm, seems like a pretty good idea. This is just sort of a fun page anyway. Or maybe I just think that because I dreamed that I said it last night. Man, I need to get a life. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 23:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

==better name==
doesnt this page need a better name? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::Also, look above, the idea for a shorter name was proposed and never got any support. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
oh. now that i read it, that other name sounds better. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 17:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think "''Who'' are you supposed to be?" could be a better name. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with Homestar. The other name from above is just bleh, but [[Who are you supposed to be?]] is good. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:::[[Who are you supposed to be?]] doesn't really cover when characters dress up as something other than a person or think that someone dressed up as someone other than a person. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I think "What are you supposed to be?" sounds kinda cool... {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:::::I think this conversation is about a year old. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Carmen Freakin Sandiego!!! ==

He was about to say Sandiego, NOT Miranda. He said it in the exact same style as he did with Sandiego. Just because Miranda happened first, does not mean he was going to refer to it. OK? Is it ok for me to even explain my reason *sarcasm*. *sigh* Im changing it--[[Special:Contributions/24.224.25.70|24.224.25.70]] 04:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:The transcript and everything else has him saying "Carmen-freaking-Mir-", as though he's about to say "Miranda". which mirrors a line from [[Homestarloween Party]]. And, that's what I hear, too. The toon is also old enough that, had this been wrong, it'd have likely been fixed by now. Unless the DVD version changed something. Beats me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 05:51, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== I really like your H*RWiki costume... ==

I think that there should be a "Hey ''X'',I really like your ''X'' costume. It is '''clearly''' a running gag. It has been seen in most of the Halloween toons, D-Ween Short Shorts, and SBemails too. I think it has enough to make a full page. I also had no Idea where to post this so I thought it would be best to put it here. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Here is an (as far as I know) incomplete list of all of the "I really like" jokes. I think the page should have what Homestar thinks their costume is, what their costume ''actually'' is, on the bottom of course a VARIATIONS section, and possibly an explanation of WHY he thinks they are that costume.
*The House That Gave Sucky Treats
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.
*3 Times Halloween Funjob
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
*Most in the Graveyard
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Homestar, I really like your Carrot Top costume. {Homestar turns his head around} I'm not Carrot Top! I'm Crocodile Dundee!
*Doomy Tales of the Macabre Teaser
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey everybody, I really like your covered all in black ink costumes. Kinda stole my idea, though. Don't you think?
*Decemberween Short Shorts
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER ORNAMENT''': Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your rhinestone cowboy costume.
*Email yes, wrestling
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from ''Fat Albert'' costume.
[[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 12:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:What are you supposed to be?

Geonightman — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:34:39 GMT

Geonightman: /**/I really like your H*RWiki costume...

Talk:different town

Geonightman — Mon, 06 Dec 2010 02:00:17 GMT

Geonightman: /* DWANG! */

==Star==
Does anyone think that homestar ripping off his star could be a reference to Marshmallow's Last stand, where Strong Bad steals it from him?
:No. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:00, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*I think it could be. That's what I thought when I first saw it. —{{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

==Jacket==
Maybe it is just me, but where the transcript says "And Coach Z would wear this cool jacket." I keep hearing "And Coach Z would wear a schooljacket". Does anyone agree?

I do, and I don't think it's a matter of opinion as atleast the mp3 version of the song goes "would wear a schooljacket" - 212.94.80.106

:Would a listen of the DVD version where John Linnell sings the song help any?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::Probably, as I'll admit the distinction is (after listening to it about 20 times or so) small. - 212.94.80.106

::I just listened to the John Linnell version and it's definitely "this cool jacket" — [[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 19:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Acknowledged. - 212.94.80.106

:::: The whole thing also comes down to: Coach Z is not wearing any sort of school jacket in that scene. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Over-linking ==
Every instance of a character’s name does not need a link. Linking the first mention of the name or place is sufficient. [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:15, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Yes, I agree. This needs to be clear from the start. I think there's something about it in the [[Help:Contents|Help section]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:30, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

== First Shirt? ==
Strong Bad wears a shirt in [[stand-up]].--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 16:20, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

That was Lil' Strong Bad. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

== Over-sensitive referencing? ==

Is the "fourteenth song" really an explicit reference to a particular performance by a particular band? Doesn't every band introduce their songs that way upon ocassion? - [[ehsteveistaken]]

:I deleted it at one point because I felt that it wasn't a reference, but hey, it's back now. Bye bye... - [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Pacdude pacdude]

"funny pronunciation", eh? Hah! Those funny Germans. They're so funny! And rubbish! God bless America. --[[User:195.92.67.75|195.92.67.75]]

== Baal ==
Given the game is on a floppy and the propensity of TBC for vintage games Baal is more likely a ref to the 1989 Dos/Amiga/Commodore 64 game. See [[Floppy Disk Container]] for details. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Beastie Boys (Declined)===
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Two'd!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''2nd.''' ("Two'd". Rudeboy is now my hero!) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Actually the voice at the beginning of the Beastie Boys' ''Check Your Head'' belongs to Robin Zander of Cheap Trick; it's a sample from the band's live album ''At Budokan''. (Zander was introducing the song "Surrender," the first track on ''Heaven Tonight''.) {{unsigned|71.136.230.120|03:52, 2 January 2007}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Make a hole with a fun fact ===
{{stufffact|The rhythm of Strong Bad's email song is taken from the They Might Be Giants song [http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Ana_Ng Ana Ng] – the first time is the same as the rhythm part under the verse, and the second time is this and the vocal rhythm mixed together.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)|13:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|17|1|different town}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== First Song on Our STUFF'd Album ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad introduces his next song in the same manner that Cheap Trick frontman Robin Zander famously introduced "Surrender" on their landmark album Live at Budokan: "This is the first song off our new album!"}}
{{stuffverdict|21:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)|01:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|12|0|different town}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== No Soup for You!! ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat pouring hot soup on Homestar's eyes is a reference to the [http://www.hbo.com/oz/ HBO Series OZ], [http://www.tv.com/oz/u.s.-male/episode/61334/summary.html Episode 305; U.S. Male], where this is done to inmates Poet and Pierce. This episode aired on 7/28/1999.}}
'''NOTE:''' This item applies to both [[New Boots]] and [[different town]]. 
{{stuffverdict|00:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC)|04:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|2|New Boots}}

== That field... ==

Um, in the football fields page, it says that the football field is in this e-mail, but the field that Homestar calls it quits in is '''really''' not like the normal football field, what do you think? --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 15:38, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Real World References==
The OZ reference that you all keep deleting is legitimate. Please see [[New Boots]]. Follow the links, Google it, or watch the show.

:*I'm also familiar with this show. Why is it that this reference was dis-allowed? -[[User:B|B]] 06:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::Sounds like coincidence to me. STUFF it if you think otherwise. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 08:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pink spiky hair ==
[[Image:Marzipanmohawk.PNG|thumb|90px|Pink spiky hair?]]
I have loaded the SWF into a decompiler in an attempt to verify the "secret" fun fact currently listed in the article (which needs to be moved to a real category). I can't find the pink spiky hair anywhere, just Marzipan's big yellow mane. Can anyone verify that the pink hair really exists and that we're not actually seeing fanstuff here? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:29, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:Confirmed. It's there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Try double clicking the mane and delete part of it. You'll see the mohawk.-stuntman021
:It doesn't work... :-(
::If you aren't in a Flash decompiler, of course not. If you are using one, there's not reason why it shouldn't. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== '''Bust of'' or '''busted'''? ==

I hear busted Bubo, not bust of bubo--{{User:Benol/sig}} 21:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I distinctly hear the "uh" sound in "of". Strong Sad's mouth moves more in the way of "of" rather than "ed". --{{User:Salty/sig}} 21:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

The Bubo item in the "fast forward" for the DVD - should it be moved to the "fast forward" for the email itself? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Linnell version ==

I have an mp3 of the Linnell version that I bought off a seedy looking guy in the alley behind Kroger late at night that I'm willing to send to anybody who wants it for [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|$5]]. (In reality, I sent a guy I met on a message board I found searching Google for the mp3 a Gmail invite for it, and I'm willing to send it to anybody who wants it for free.) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:16, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== Entering email song "Check your Email and Check your Email" ==

This is actualy an vesion of They Might be Giants song "Ana Ang" off of the Lincoln CD. No one ever realized it yet.
- Sirbob

:Really? How does the Ana Ang song go? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

::There's a brief clip at [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000003BIP/qid=1143092223/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-4724388-0028131?s=music&v=glance&n=5174 Amazon]. Listen in a bit, to the rhythm section parts. There's a definite similarity. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

:::They're similar only in that they are heavily syncopated. The rhythms are actually quite different if you compare them in detail (unless I'm comparing it with the wrong part... from that clip Qermaq posted, would the line "All alone at the '64 world's fair" be the rhythm you're talking about?) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I don't hear any lyrical comparison at all, but listen to the rhythm section parts under the vocals "All alone at the '64 World's Fair/Eighty dolls yelling "Small girl after all"". The chunk-y rhythm they're playing is identical to the "check--your e--mail--and check--your--e--mail" pattern - the inspiration for the email song? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't know how familiar you are with musical notiation, and I'm too lazy to make some, so here's some timeline ASCII art:
<pre>
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - * - *
All a-lone at the six - ty - four World's fair
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - - * *
Eigh-ty dolls yel-ling "Small girl af - ter all."

* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * -
Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.
* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * -
Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.
(Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.)
</pre>
(stars indicate eighth-notes with notes on them, hyphens indicate eighth-note rests). The rhythms are rather different - in particular, the "'64 World's fair" bit is off the beat, whereas the second "check your email" bit is on the beat. Interspersing regular rhythms in a syncopated piece is reasonably common (it's a little thing called contrast), Ana Ng is hardly the only song to do it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no. Read my post. The word rhythm is very different. I'm comparing the rhythm of the "check your email" to the RHYTHM SECTION PART under the vocals in that spot. Not the lyrics. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Let me demonstrate. <pre>
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - * - * (lyrics rhythm)
All a-lone at the six - ty - four World's fair (lyrics)
* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * - (rhythm section rhythm)
Check your e- mail and check your e- mail (let's all sing along!)
</pre>

See? I'm not saying this is necessarily notable enough to go over there on the page, but it's certainly a striking... striking thing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, you're right! Wow, I didn't notice that... Ordinarily I'd chalk it up to coincidence, but there is already a heavy [[TMBG]] influence in this email... Hmm... I'm gonna take it to [[STUFF]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

== 3 (thousand) is clearly a smaller number than a million ==

Depending on just how narrow the box filled with peas is, and based on the diameter of a pea compared to the width of the box, it would only hold around 3000 to 8000 peas. (Props to [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] for most of the math on this one.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:'''SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING:''' The following post contains large amounts of mathematics and geometry, which may be dangerous to your health. Persons who are of the faint-of-heart are advised not to read further. Side-effects include confusion, nausea, and disorientation. On the blown-up full-screen version I have on my screen, a pea is 28 pixels in diameter, and the front of the box is 515 pixels wide and 484 pixels tall, or 18.4x17.3 pea-diameters (henceforth abbreviated as "pd"). I see the box as about cuboid, with a depth of about 18pd, It's dot com sees it as significantly shorter (because there's fewer planks and based on the width of the box's frame), about 6pd (hence the 3000-8000 range in It's dot com's post). An individual pea has a radius of ½pd (of course), so its volume is (4/3)πr³ = 0.52pd³. The size of the box if it's near-cube is 18.4x17.3x18 = 5667pd³. The [[Wikipedia:Sphere packing|packing efficiency of spheres]] is about 75% (meaning that when you fill a box with spheres, about 25% is empty space) so only about 4258pd³ actually contains peas. Divide that by 0.52pd³, getting a bit over 8000 peas. If you say the box is 6pd deep, then you get closer to 3000 peas. However, this is taking into account the rather large size of the peas in the box... given a much smaller pea, a more realistic 7mm-diameter pea (or ¼") has a volume of 180mm³, a million taking 180,000,000mm³, or 240,000,000mm³ after the packing efficiency. This is the volume of a cube 620mm along each side, or about 24 inches – quite a bit smaller than the KoT's box (so a box that you could fit the KoT in could easily hold many more than a million peas). NB: All of this is not counting the space taken up by the King of Town himself, but as Tom pointed out, the label on the box just says that at one time it held a million peas. It doesn't have to have that amount in there now that the KoT is in there. Also, this uses the 75% packing efficiency of spheres, which is for a regular [[Wikipedia:Close-packing|close-packing]] arrangement, for a more reasonable random arrangement you'd get for just pouring peas into a box, it'd be significantly less. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:14, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:: :D {{User:FireBird/sig}} 11:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==Why is it...==
This song was available for download but the songs from montage weren't? Do they just pick them at random? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe it's coz this one was a collab with They Might Be Giants. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Song lyrics==

Are you sure Strong Bad doesn't say "his cool jacket" instead of "this cool jacket"? -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 18:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Very sorry for bringing up this post that was over a year old, but I was just going to ask the same question before I saw that it has already been asked, but not answered. I personally hear "his cool jacket" not "this cool jacket." (Even when I listen to the DVD version of it). {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::Oh. I always thought that he said "The school jacket" I think "His cool jacket" makes more sence than "This cool jacket", but that is just my opinion. --[[User:Philip8o|Philip8o]]

==Place==

I don't know which side of the argument I agree with regarding if the proper grammer for stongbad's quote at the end is correct or not. I can see the argument that it is incorrect because the easter egg makes it seem like it refers to a location (such as a city/state) called place. Thus it should be "I gotta go to Place." While it can also be argued that it could be like "home" where the "to" is not needed. . .I though would tend to say that the grammer is incorrect. Either way though. . . - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
*I tend to think of it as forgetting or deliberately leaving off the "s" at the end of "place'''''s'''''," if, of course, he wasn't trying to be [[vague]], as he usually is when it comes to getting out of embarrassing or otherwise awkward situations.

==Glitch?==
I dunno if it's just me and my speakers, but there appears to be a cut betewn "he'd look like a idiot basketball" and "one, two, one two (part with hot homsar)".
Does anyone else notice this? -EMOBUBS 21:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
*It's "ABA basketball", not "idiot basketball" --[[Special:Contributions/75.110.102.223|75.110.102.223]] 03:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
*I noticed that, but I never did before. {{User:Mee/sig}} 01:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Let there be recessed lighting ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=different_town&curid=1037&diff=597036&oldid=597027&rcid=555342 This] is actually half true. Based on the light on the wall and floor, and the shadow of the chair, the light is more or less directly above SB. SB is shaded as if the light is coming from the top right, and SS is shaded as if the light is coming from the top left. Kind of in-between them. From the top. If we forget about SB's shading and assume that it always looks as if the light is coming from the top right... then we should look at the shadows on the wall and the floor, which show that the light is right above SB. All in all, I don't think it's notable enough to be mentioned in the article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== My? ==

I could've sworn I heard "stupid baby brother" not "my stupid baby brother." Can any one shed some light on this mystery? --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 01:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, it's definitely "my". It's overlapping bubs's line, but it's there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:45, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I'll Check to make sure. --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 22:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's there. Although, it's kinda faint because of the overlapping sound. Thanks much! --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 22:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== DWAYNE! ==

Is it me or does Strong Bad look smaller than usual when standing next to Strong Sad? [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 01:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)