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Homeschool Winner — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:17:46 GMT

Homeschool Winner: blanked the page

Talk:geddup noise

Homeschool Winner — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:51:49 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Strong Mad said what? */

==steve buttz==
dont you guys notice that the e-mail he was ansering when he got a phone call was from steve buttz? i think you should
note that.-[[User:Timmy!]]
:Um, yeah, we do that.
<blockquote>The email kids' book is on the Compy 386 when the Geddup Noise gets his phone call. Kids' book is the 84th email Strong Bad mentioned.</blockquote>
:See? It's in the remarks section. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
==corporate magazines==
do we really need the strong sad/kurt cobain refernce in both remarks, and real world references? having it in one or the other would make more sense. - '''''[[User:i know. can you believe it?|i know. can you believe it?]]'''''
:Taken care of. Thnks for pointing it out. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 14:10, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:In future it'd be easier for you to just fix it yourself. When an article comes out for something new like this, there's usually a lot of frenzied editing, everyone wants to get their point in. Duplicates do often turn up - just delete one, leave whichever one is more grammatical/detailed/in a more appropriate section. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:23, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
==OMG Kevin!==
Homestar being called Kevin is referring to [[the bet]], right? -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 15:05, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Adding to the Cast ==

Shouldn't we add The Geddup Noise and Chairscoot to the cast for this email, since they're kinda referred to as characters throughout?
--[[User:Tigz|Tigz]] 15:17, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:No, we shouldn't. But we should make a page for the Geddup Noise. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 15:21, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Get Up Kids?==
Does it seem likely/noteworthy to anyone that the e-mail (esp. in relation indie music) was vaguely referencing or inspired by the (recently broken-up) band The Get Up Kids? If so, someone should write that into the article in an elegant fashion. Perhaps. -[[User:Sinisterscrawl|Sinisterscrawl]] 16:41, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:As cool as the Get Up Kids are/were, I don't think there's any connection there. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}

:Are you serious? That's what the whole Strong Sad's t-shirts things were about - Mike Chap

Cool! Mike visited the site! ''{does the h*r creator man dance}'' --[[HRFWiki:User:Homfrog|Homfrog]]

OH MY GOODNESS. ''*stares at Mike's post with a =D face*'' If you're an imposter, I slap you. I doubt you are an imposter dude. Otherwise... HOLY CRAP MIKE VISITED THE WIKI! ''CASUALLY!'' --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:24, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Um, no. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 21:30, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I doubt it's Mike... I mean, really, how hard is it to type the words "Mike Chap"... But who knows? {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:54, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shoshoni & Coches ==
I'm too lazy to do it myself, but ought there to be some Explanations for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshoni Shoshoni] and Coches? A cursory, 5-minute search has failed to give me a good idea of where the latter are; just some ski resort sites in other languages. I assume they're a mountain range in either France or Spain or both, but if it's that far removed from common knowledge an Explanation might be in order. [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]]

"coches" is spanish for cars. not sure if this is related. sarducci

"les coches" is a ski resort

== Coach Z's Dance ==

_Not_ the one from folky tale. In folky tale, coach Z hops from foot to foot while pumping his arms up and down above his head. In the easter egg, he hops on one foot (his right) across the screen with his arms down at his sides, moving slightly up-and down. Deleted the "inside reference" claiming it was the same. -sarducci
:It's similar, though. But still not the same. My first thought, though, was the 'I'm Just Me' song and dance from [[record book]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Oh, good catch. I does seem to be identical to the I'm just me dance, cept he's moving across the screen, not just up and down. Is this worth a mention? -sarducci
::Might be worth a mention. I dunno. If people don't like it, they can always STUFF it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Strong Mad said what? ==

It sounded to me like Strong Mad said "YOU SUCK!" instead of "BLUE SOCK!" Anybody else think so? [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]] 19:17, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:It did sound like that a little, but "BLUE SOCK" definitely fits the context better. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::But wouldn't that explain why Strong Bad was embarassed to have shown that "clip"? [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]] 19:40, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I heard you suck at first, but a closer listen revealed blue sock to be true. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:43, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::No, it wouldn't. It showed Strong Bad selling out and imitating The Geddup Noise, which would be embarrassing to someone like Strong Bad, don'cha think? "Blue sock" definitely fits better. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:24, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Actually, to me it sounds like a mix: "YOU SUCK BLUE SOCK!", and the fact that HE did a ripoff is rather embarassing. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 23:43, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::I reckon he said "BLUE SOCK!". {{User:Rainer/sig}} 06:50, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::At first I thought he said "BLUE SUCKS!" but I soon realized it was "BLUE SOCK!" -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:51, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== It's About Freakin' Time! ==

Anyone else find it weird that for almost 2 months, TBC diddn't do any SBEmails (almost all they do) to do two big toons, two shorts, multiple Lament updates, a new main page, a new navigation feature, and add several new products to the store? Plus several of the newer emails have sucked. I think the SBEmails are dying.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]]

-If you noticed, they said they were putting out a DVD of all the non Strong bad email stuff, so they were probably just rushing to get out all the ideas they had for toons before the DVD went to press......Nah...

-I think they were trying to fill up the site with newer stuff for a few possible reasons.
A.) Trying to make sure that their site has things other than the SBEmail get updated.
B.)Trying to get enough toons and shorts added so they can release a Toons DVD.
C.) Perhaps they figured that all those updates might help boost the sites popularity.
I do think it should be noted about how this is the first SBEmail in a while. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

2 months without an e-mail
And this is the demented result...
I'll be happier when Stinkoman level 10 comes out (I hope)...
Man, some of the e-mails I sent had such cool premises, and THEY ANSWER ONE ABOUT THE NOISE STRONG BAD MAKES WHEN HE GETS OFF HIS CHAIR...
GUUH GUUUH GUH...

Signed, this may very well be my least favorite email. I-- it's... just not funny. {{User:Tom Epsilon/sig}}

Definity. its the worst email ive seen. maybe it was good that they didnt have a new one in a while. the next one better be better. [[User:Darkstalker|Darkstalker]]

I don't know about you guys but I liked this email. But to answer your theory about SB emails dieing it just seems like TBC are just trying to do new things like new shorts and toons as apposed to putting-up an email each and every week. [[User:Stinkoman Z|Stinkoman Z]]
:: I second that. My sentiments exactly. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:22, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
y'all are so whack! this e-mail was good! '''''[[User:i know. can you believe it?|i know. can you believe it?]]'''''

I did like this email (I categorize it as decent) but it was nowhere near as great as some others (i.e. the one referenced to in this email). Recent ones that simply were not good at all include lady...ing, boring [really], and modeling. (I know people will disagree with me there, but it is not neccesary to bloat this page with your complaints).---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]]
::On a similar note, anyone notice how Pom Pom's appearences are becoming less and less. Wihile it sucks, it is perfectly understandable: Pom Pom's inability to talk makes him hard to use, and he lacks an additional "catch" that makes talking unnecessary like The Cheat and The Poopsmith have.
::::I would disagree that Pom Pom lacks a "catch," so to speak. It's just that his catch isn't as easy to work into the silly, fun nature of the cartoons. He talks to fine honeys on his cell phone([[Pom Pom]]), he collects money from girls([[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]), and in [[Homestarloween Party]] he adds hot bikini girls with beer to the car(or, rather, adds them sitting around the car). Pom Pom is the pimp jokes, from what I've seen, and in a universe as asexual as the H*R universe they're harder to work in. [[User:Bennedetto|Bennedetto]]

== Goofs and a Question ==

I have several points/questions:

* In the part where Strong Bad immitates the ''Geddup Noise'' with the ''Git Outcha Seat Sound'', if you notice, the chair his sitting on only has three legs! (And there's no way the perspective would hide the 4th leg)

* I'm not sure if this counts as a goof: When you click on the notepad easter egg, you can click on the back pages (over where the stool is) and still get the Technochocolate easter egg.

* Finally, I noticed that both of Bubs' eyelids closed when Coach Z was making his first impression of the ''Geddup Noise''. I'm wondering, is this the first time he does that? I don't remember ever seeing him do that before.

That's enough for now. I'm still new at this, so I appreciate your input! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:13, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Also, I made a link addittion, but I cannot corroborate the change made by 65.163.168.10 (in the [[geddup_noise#Inside_References|Inside References]] section). Please double check. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:14, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

BTW I think the ("cordless") phone deserves its own page.
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:22, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:It already [[Disconnected Telephone|has a page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Oh! My bad! Thanks for the link! I saw where it's referred to in the page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:27, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Any time. Happy to help, etc. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is This Correct?==

The part about Marc's question being odd in because the Geddup Noise was in the previous email doesn't make sense to me. This is in Remarks. This email could have been easily sent before lady...ing. [[User:Catman87]]
:It's possible, but I don't think they'd save an email for that long. Keep in mind how long ago the last email was. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Bubs' Basement... ==

"This is proof that Bubs Conncesion Stand ''does'' have a basement."

So, um, why exactly is that so important to note?--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:43, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Corporate Homestarloween Still Sucks Still Sucks ==

We have redundant links to Homestarloween Party. I was about to delete one, but it raises a question: Should Real-World References that have already been referenced in another toon be regarded as Real-World References, Inside References, or both? [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 00:10, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Booo ==

Didn't anybody else think that when the King of Town did his own rip-off of the gettup noise, he was booing himself in the background, like how he did in [[impression]] when Strong Sad appeared? I definitely heard it, and I think that was the joke at that point, and not him randomly saying "doooooo." His mustache doesn't even move at that point, anyway.

Yeah, I think so too. Should we add that on the fun facts? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:07, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't think "Dooo-ooo" made any sence, and I heard "Booooo" They should change this. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

I agree, but it was instantly changed back when I tried modifying the wiki. -sarducci

Yep, it's definitely "Booooo"

:I once reverted it from "boooo!" to "dooo!", but I can now hear that that is clearly wrong. The only problem I will have with changing it to "boooo!" is if people interpret it as an offscreen KOT jeering the onscreen KOT. No, it's not a reference to the "Boooo!" in [[impression]]. You can tell from the pitch that the KOT is adding vocal SFX to glorify the Standing Up Noise. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:40, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I also hear a /b/ sound at the beginning. I don't know, however, what the best spelling would be. Obviously, "booo" is a choice. "Buhooo"... hmmm... "B'oooo"... Anybody else have a suggestion? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:54, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Corporate T-shirts Still Suck ==

There are two references to one thing for Strong Sad's T-shirt. Which is it? Because right now, it looks like a TTATOT, or at least the beginnings of one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:41, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Fortunately, it's taken care of. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:06, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Didn't Strong Bad call it the "get up noise"? ==

In the email "the bet" Strong Bad's closing line is "And now, the get up noise." He now claims it's called "the geddup noise." Also, that was email 95 so should it be noted that "chairscoot" hadn't replaced "the geddup noise" yet?
:Well, for all we know, the Geddup Noise was replaced with the get up noise and THEN the Chairscoot. I wouldn't worry about it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::However, his seeming confusion at the phrase "get up noise" at the beginning of the email would seem to counterindicate this. You know, this sbemail does funky stuff with the fourth wall and reality that are going to make arguments difficult--hold it, this deserves a separate heading... [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:10, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Bubs sinking into the floor? ==
Is this an inside refrence to anything?
{{User:Crazydog/sig}} 04:36, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but if you want to sign your post, you could just simply type 4 tildes, like so:<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. It's alot easier than typeing in your entire name. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 04:17, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You could call it a real-word reference to those mimes people do behind benches. You know, going down stairs, elevators, escalators and so on.

It's seems to be a slight reference possibly to Blast from The Past [[User:Chatboy 91|Chatboy 91]] 22:28, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think it's just a joke, in that it's a funny image. I mean, just look at it; Bubs is facing right at you and slowly sinking through the floor with a single light overhead. I thought it was visually funny. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

:I think its a reference to basic UFO crap. Nothing in particalur. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 23:12, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Rant Re: Reality ==
     I can foresee difficulties in discussing the events of this email in absolute terms--"Bubs has a basement," "Geddup Noise was succeeded circa #84 by 'get up noise,' who was succeeded by Chairscoot, post-#95"--due to the fact that the entire thing is a huge breakage of the [[Fourth Wall (Breaks)|Fourth Wall]]. Marc's email sets it off right from the start, by referencing a prior 4th-wall-break in email 95. From there we progress to a reality in which not merely an inanimate object but a sound is personified. Of course it's heard when Strong Bad hands it the phone, and is able to manifest itself in radio and game show studios--it's being treated as a person. 
     All of which casts into serious doubt the "reality" of the events depicted. Does Bubs have a basement? More to the point, does "Bubso?" Did the Cheat in actuality create an indietronic remix? Strong Bad simply tells us with a straight face that these things happened, and his word is ultimately the only arbiter of reality within sbemails. I understand the flexibility that's always characterized the "H*R Universe"--but if we accept these events as literal it's a universe in which real estate in prestigious European ski resorts can be purchased--and inhabited--by disembodied sounds. 
     And yes, I'm aware that another email-closing icon, The Paper, has been consistently personified. I guess my uneasiness is simply with the fact that the modus operandi of this whole wiki seems to be to rebuild the Fourth Wall as much as possible--to try to pull the H*R corpus into an ordered unity, to speak of it in declarative sentences as if Strong Bad and Free Country USA were real people and places--an attempt which is hampered by the fact that it is, in fact, a work of creative art in continual production and transformation. To that extent, any argument over putative changes or discrepancies in characters or settings can simply be reduced to: "Today TBC said x. In the past they have said y." We are describing nothing so much as a chronology of artistic statements. 
     This is simply amplified by the H*R Universe's (or TBC's) ambiguity towards the Fourth Wall, throughout. The whole notion of sbemails as an "email show," the new "backstage" main page, and several DVD commentaries where characters speak of their "performances" as though they had memorized, rehearsed, and finally filmed them, makes our perception of H*R reality uncertain. When are they aware of an audience? When are we watching their "actual lives," and when is it some show they've produced? Do they know? 
     I don't know why I felt the need for this rant, or why I've gone on so long now. I'm not recommending, by any means, that the wiki be converted to some kind of "book report" mindset; I guess I'm just suggesting that, when we try to make the realities presented in an email like this one agree, we keep reminding ourselves that we're discussing characters who may or may not be presenting a fictitious reality within their own "fictitious reality," all of which is subject to the whims of its human authors. I'm suggesting that we draw a line somewhere, preferably somewhere before discussing how sound effects can have "cousins," or what the names of the sounds in Strong Bad's employment were, and in what order. 
     Perhaps Geddup Noise will enter the cast of characters like Senor Cardgage (another 4th-Wall-Break made flesh); it just weirds me out because unlike the Paper he's not merely inanimate, he's immaterial. But hey, so are Homestar's arms. So there.
[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 06:42, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:     First of all, and this is off the subject, but anyone who would write such an eloquent, lengthy, and insightful essay on the nature of the H*R universe is doing us a disservice by not having a user space to speak of. That is to say, you may be neither strong nor bad, notstrongorbad, but I can tell when someone is my kind of person, and you're it. So get on that user page, why don't you. I for one would like to get to know you.
:     Second, I really like the notion that TBC break the fourth wall, but then we just build it back as best we can. That is by far the best explanation of how we here cope with information that doesn't fit our established patterns. I believe this is a very necessary reaction, because we are essentially writing a straight-faced encyclopedia of a fictitious universe, and the only way we can do that is to take the subject matter as seriously as possible (which is of course incredibly ironic). I think (and if I read you correctly, you agree with me) that most people here operate in terms of what the characters themselves would do if they were real, rather than what TBC are having them do. In my own mind I imagine Strong Bad and Homestar as distinct personalities separate from Matt Chapman. This is partially delusional, but at least I'm aware of it. Again, it makes it easier to write this wiki if one approaches it on those terms.
:     Note that we are not even close to the first to do this. The most notable example that comes to mind is the ''Star Trek'' universe, whose fans have had to incorporate the whims of hundreds of writers into a cohesive canon. In that regard, we're lucky we only have to deal with a handful of contributors.
:Back to the topic at hand, even though the Paper is personified, it is still an item, not a character, and I don't see the Geddup Noise as a character, either. At least not with more to go on. I agree that we must be able to see a line between the fictitious reality and fictitious realities within it. Unfortunately, it's very late as I type this, and my vision is a little blurry.
:     Wrapping up, I will remark on how I like that certain things can cross the line. Senor Cardgage is the perfect example. He began as the so-called Creppy Comb-over Strong Bad, but as he gained more and more appearances, TBC were forced to admit to themselves that Senor Cardgage had become bona fide separate character, and (to me this is the best part) that status was conferred ''retroactively'' all the way back to his first appearance in [[kind of cool]]. In other words, TBC didn't know it at the time, but the dumpy character with the beer belly and a comb-over has ''always'' been Senor Cardgage.
:     I don't know if anything I've written here constitutes rational thought. Like I said, it's too late for me to even proof-read it closely, so forgive any typographical or logical mistakes. And I meant what I said about your user page. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:47, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, notstrongorbad, you're seriously pushing the envelope of talk pagery here. And like dot com said, that's a very good thing. I myself have similar thoughts about the reality/non-reality status of the Universe (H*R and our own), but there's seldom any cause to put them down. Talk pages are such a place for this.

::Sometimes, I'm a fiction writer. When I made the step from short stories to my novel, I was a bit overwhelmed with the amount of characters, idioms, and qualities I was imparting into a true vacuum. From nothing, came something, and before long, that something grew so large certain elements were at odds. Continuity, or lack thereof, became one of my chief editing headaches.

::But my novel was a one-shot affair for the consumer of art - you read it, it's done. You could go back, but it's meant as a cohesive whole (with room for the sequel, of course!), and the reader will either buy into the woven fabric or find fault in it. H*R is a different artistic animal, one that is constantly being added to, constantly being meddled with. This meddling manifests itself in heavy doses of self-referential trickery. It rewards the fan who returns to see what has changed, and challenges that person to make sense of it. And therein lies the greatest joke of all - there really is no sense, or "truth" to be found. In a world of invisible arms, personified noises and disconnected telephones, TBC regularly present an incongrous, even inconsistent, format from which to indulge their comedic leanings.

::But they restrain themselves from complete incongruity, complete inconsistency. There are threads, and there are themes. From these tenuous strings and strands of their imagination, we, the devoted (and quite possibly obsessed) and computer-literate fans of the cartoon try to record it, standardize it, and glorify it. When TBC foist the concept of a personified noise on the viewer, we naively accept it; we want to accept it. As dot com related, thinking of the characters as "real" (and not just the product of Matt doing a funny voice and Mike writing funny dialogue) is simply more satisfying. Thinking too deeply about the underpinnings of these dumb animal characters dilutes the fantasy, and leads to troubling issues such as whether everything we see is the complete fabrication of Strong Bad.

::I close with three words: suspension of disbelief. If anything deserves it, it is H*R, for not only making us laugh but then compelling us to explain it. And please, get a user page and tell us a little about'cha self. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 11:22, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::This conversation++.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:04, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::What. The. Crap. This is a frigging long discussion over a petty thing... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::You should know how to sign your posts by now, [[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]. I surely hope you read some of their discussion. I enjoyed reading every word of it myself, so much so that I printed it out (on paper sans green and white bars.) It shows you who's really thinking deeply on the subject. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'd also like to get to know [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] better. Add me to the list of people who want him/her to create their own user page! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 19:22, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Sorry, I forgot about the sign thing. I'm not particularly just taking a look at the discussion and going "whoah its way too long," I've read over it, but I just feel that whether or not what Strong Bad says about E-mail #84 merits a discussion this long. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:24, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::Please understand, [[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]], that although the mention of email #84 prompted this discussion, the topic is not merely about what Strong bad says about that particular email, but it's about the bigger picture: what drives us members of the HRWiki community to keep our eyes glued to the monitor day in, and day out, waiting for the messages "NEW Toons!", "NEW downloads", "NEW SBEmails!", and "Updated Today!" -- and then, like eager little children we tell everyone else the incredible things we discovered in this marvelous little made-up universe. Even, if we're <insert an unspecified age> years old. It's cool stuff. Oh, yes and guys, I enjoyed reading the shpeals! (Is that how you spell it?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:01, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::: Yes, I know, I was merely using that as an example. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 00:50, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::I don't have anything that philosophical to say, but I think it's spelled spiels. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:05, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Reprinted from [[Talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]]:

<pre> I may have a way out of all this: Strong Bad is running
a small operation inside the homestar-verse for the benefit of those
within it. That is to say, Strong Bad is an internet star inside the
world of Homestar and Friends, which is why The Cheat can watch on
his computer (or Strong Bad do the show from The Cheat's computer).
In this context, we are not watching Strong Bad answer email for our
benefit, but for those inside; we just get to watch, explaining why
we can follow Strong Bad around when he leaves his computer. -- The
Real Zajac 10:08, 11 May 2005 (PDT)
</pre>

-- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:00, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)

     I should clarify that I don't feel that my impromptu essay was in any way warranted or even particularly on-topic; it was purely an act of venting. In a fit of wikiness I was up WAY past my appropriate bedtime, which probably had a lot to do with its length! And yes, while I enjoy the grad-school-thesis schtick sometimes, I do also know it can get old. Sometimes the appropriate response is simply "Ha ha! He kicked the Cheat! Ha ha!" 
     And please don't misunderstand; I'm not arguing that we shouldn't undertake a systematic, realistic discussion of an unsystematic, non-real world, by any means. The important thing is just to remember, in the back of our minds, that we are. 
     (And evidently I'm going to be creating a user page, but it probably won't be any time in the next few days!) [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 23:59, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Sounds and Indietronica ==

Yesterday, somebody tried to make an Inside Reference saying that the sound that accompanied the "Get Outcha Seat Sound" logo was from Lil' Brudder, and was of course deleted with the explanation that "it's been noted that TBC reuse sounds." Now it's been added to the transcript, first as the "Fluffy Puff Nibblins" sound, and then as the "Homsar walking sound." Mightn't a good approach be to either ignore SFX entirely, except where they pertain to the action of the email (e.g. the Standing Up Noise), or else to give SFX that are repeated often enough their own pages, to systemize what they're called?

Unrelatedly: someone deleted the Real-World Reference to Indietronica entirely. While I don't want it to turn into a long list of bands that fit (?) that category, I think it's a significant enough phenomenon and far enough from assumed mainstream knowledge to be needed. Maybe the best way is simply to link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indietronic, even though it's a somewhat sloppy stub. I'm not sure about protocol, though; would linking within the transcript or Easter Eggs section be appropriate, or should it be put back into a Fun Fact? [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:40, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Might I direct your attention to [[Sound Effects|my pride and joy]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:And I would say put the indietronic link back as a fun fact, unless anyone has objections? {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:45, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Holy cow, Dorian; you were WAY ahead of me. Very shipshape. And consider the Fun Fact reinstated.

:::Thanks! ^-^ I love the praise. I can't take all the credit--It's dot com came up with the initial idea, and other people helped with some minor formatting and additions--but if you look at the history, the brunt of the work was done by me. And I constantly keep watch for more additions. Nice to know my hard work is appreciated. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Questionable Fun Fact ==

"The sign on [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] reads 'Bubso's Concession Stand', which may be why Coach Z calls him Bubso."

The sign being called "Bubso's" is already noted in the transcript, and it's obvious that Coach Z calling him Bubso is due to the sign, or that the sign and calling him Bubso are both due to a related reason. Either way, this doesn't have to be pointed out. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

:I wouldn't have noticed it if it wasn't for this Fun Fact, but then maybe that's just me... --[[User:84.12.176.220|84.12.176.220]] 21:03, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:boring (really)

Homeschool Winner — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 02:55:28 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Easter Egg Goof? */

==Good Boring or Bad Boring?==
Oh my god, I can't believe I just watched that. How can I get back the four minutes of my life I lost? Why TBC WHY?

Intensely boring shark-jumping action!!! I liked those fireworks.

:It was SUPPOSED to be boring. All the "interesting" characters were acting dull as heck, while the more "boring" characters are hyped up on caffeine or throwing wild parties. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Space Ghost Homage?==
I know this would be horribly shot down if I tried to put it in Fun Facts, but given that TBC likely watch Adult Swim, I can't help feeling that this email was a Space Ghost Coast to Coast homage. Watch an ep like "Fire Ant" to see what I mean (10 minutes of Space Ghost crawling across a landscape muttering inane threats!). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 04:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so, in Space Ghost it just has him walking around on his knees for ten minutes, here Strong Bad does stuff, but said stuff is pretty dull. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

:It was more the tone of the email that reminded me of SG -- long awkward pauses with nonsensical comments, and then all of a sudden something crazy happens... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Format Problem?==
and this should probably be working... It appears that the first apostrophe isn't being processed as part of a command... [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Dont know what's happening with that.. now it shows up as the italicized text is showing up bold and vice versa.. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

==Loved It!==
I LOVED this email!!--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

I gotta say, Matt did some AWESOME voice work here, Mike's animation was completely, boringly awesome, and the background music was some of the greatest yet! The humor was over the top and Homestar closing his eyes make me fall off my chair laughing! --[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:48, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bubs' speech ==

He said "I remember learning math in school" .. I put my speaker at full volume .. It's math - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]
: I had mine at full volume too and I'm certain it's "that". "Math" doesn't really fit the context quite as well anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Listened to it a few more times (speaker at full volume as well) and it was unmistakably "that"; clear consonants and everything. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Listened to it a few more times and must apologize for me thinking so .. it is just that Bubs' voice is so .. "unclear" let's just say .. that it is hard to tell between the two when he is the speaker. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

== Niels Bohr ==
Since I changed the entry to say who the picture was for, I figured I'd put my justification here. The picture is addressed to "S2," and it seems reasonable to interpret S-squared as Strong Sad.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 03:12, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Plus, Strong Sad is the one who's a fan of him. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 06:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, "S squared" is the same as "S multiplied by S" which would be written as "SS" for Strong Sad --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 11:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Algebra aside, and speaking of [http://www.answers.com/topic/string-computer-science#wp-Formal_theory mathematical strings], S² is a common abbreviation for SS {{User:phlip/sig}} 13:09, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Possible Inside Reference==
Bub's "Be's" was last heard from Stong Bad in [[the bet]] ("Let's see you be's cool"). Was there any other occasion?

:The toons-menu description of ''Homestar vs. Little Girl 2'' says, "Little Girl be's cute." That's why I don't think this is a reference. It is just a word the Brothers Chaps throw out now and then. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 11:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Wowowowhat?==

I'm rather convinced that Strong Bad says "What?" at the same time that Homestar says "Wow," but this doesn't seem to be a universal view. Opinions? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

They both say Wow. I'm 100% certain.

Not sure, myself. Listened again and I can't quite tell, but I'm leaning towards "Wow" simply because it doesn't make much sense for Strong Bad to say "What?" when he just finished talking with Bubs about that very subject. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 06:05, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: It is kinda hard to discern, I'll admit. However, I can VERY clearly hear that SB's intonation rises (as though he's asking a question) as Homestar's falls. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm almost positive I hear "Wow" here instead of "What". Strong Bad has kind of a strange way of saying it, but it's one I hear very often in his voice (it's usually "Whoa" or "Ohh", however). His intonation rises, but falls at the very end. It doesn't sound like a question to me. Also, I don't hear a hard "t" sound, and I think that would be pretty noticeable after checking it a few times. The entire word doesn't seem to have any hard sounds. Lastly, check out his mouth; it starts out with a rounded "o" shape then opens up into its normal rectangle shape. I think "Wow" fits that far better than "What" does. Now that I see both sides of the argument though, it's hard to be sure. Some more opinions would be nice. - [[User:71.113.43.208|71.113.43.208]] 09:36, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure SB says "Woah" and then HR says "Wow". {{User:phlip/sig}} 09:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is definitely definitely definitely not "what". SB's intonation rises as homestar's falls yes, but if you try to block out homestar's and listen JUST to SB's inotation, you'll notice it falls again after the rise, which is EXACTLY how someone says "woah" or "wow", with a rise then a fall. Can we please PLEASE not leave "what" there? It looks like no one but Jay is advocating it being what, so why is his opinion trumping everyone else's? It's so very obviously not what. maybe it's woah maybe it's wow, but for god's sake let it be changed! Either of those is better than what. Woah or Wow are both probably correct, they're essentially the same word, but it isn't what!

Nothing? No one cares that anyone who changes the "what" gets reverted despite, from what I see, no one else thinking that's what it is? sigh.

:Eh, I hear "what" too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's got to be "wow". Like Anonny said up there, it's the word that fits the movements of his mouth best. Or possibly "whoa", but definitely ''not'' "what". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Good point. He does have a round mouth while saying the line, so it probably ''isn't'' what. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: He has a round mouth when he says "what" earlier in ''that very scene'' (In "What are you... um... doing?") But I listened more closely, and I think I'm starting to agree with "whoa" - but it's definitely definitely definitely not "wow", to quote Anonny up there. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Sudden stop? ==

This toon stops most of the way through (when Strong Bad is listing three letter words and types "cod, for, her") for me, can anyone help? I've tried everything. Refresh, Hard Refresh, Cache clearing, saving the .SWF...can anyone help me? -[[User:Homestar Runnar]]

Elaborate. I think it's MEANT to do that...

== Auugh! ==

What the- I don't usually send e-mails but this week I sent in ten a DAY and none of mine ever get picked! Whaddaya need, 100 a day? Poofy

:Probably more. TBC get thousands a day and only a tiny fraction are ever read at all. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:26, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, they get about 3,000 a day, (although a ton are from websites in which people signed up and didn't want to submit their own email addresses so they use Strong Bad's) so it's pretty damn hard! Some time during the summer I'm gonna write 100 emails a day (It should take less than an hour each day) for 10 days and send in 1,000 on the same day. It's very obnoxious of me, but I would love myself if my email got in. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I see vs. Eye see ==

We need to reach a consensus. Does Homestar say, "More like... ''Eye'' see," or, "More like... ''I'' see"? I think the joke here is that he says ''I'' see because he can't close his eyes. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 11:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree. It's the issue of Homestar seeing as opposed to Strong Bad, so there's emphasis on Homestar, and seeing as "I" represents Homestar, emphasis on "I" instead of "eye" makes sense. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 12:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Agreed - that's how I saw the joke as well. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 16:38, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:no, wrong! the joke is that Homestar is saying the word "eye". This may also be a reference to a previous halloween cartoon, where Homestar claims the noise that eyes make is "seeee... seee...." You see the character of Homestar says stupid things a lot. You should consult his character page for more information. It's eye, not I.

Footnote time. We don't want to look stupid. I'd say it's obviously "I", though. TBC don't go in for those kind of cheap puns...

I think we should leave it as is, by the way. The same thing was done in "for kids" with SB saying "I'LL KILL ALL OF YOUR DOGS/DOLLS!" and it looks fine.

I think the footnote DOES make us look stupid. How does "eye" fit into that context at all? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The whole "Eye" thing needs to go. It doesn't make any sense and is really stupid. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

''Eye'' agree ... I mean ''I'' agree ... it's ''I'' see. Get rid of the footnotes! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Doing ==
Strong Bad saying "What are you...uh...doing" keeps getting inserted as an inside reference to [[car]], but since it keeps getting reverted, it apparently is not. Just mentioning this "worthless non-fact" to prevent further mistakes from being made by folks who don't page back through the history. [[User:221.218.44.253|221.218.44.253]] 16:28, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Indeed. The doing/doyng car reference is currently in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]]. Please do not add it as a reference at this time. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Egg Goof? ==

I added this fun fact, which was later removed by [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]:
*On the King Of Town easter egg, you see a free-floating hand holding a mug of beer or soda, that is not connected to any character on the screen.

The response was "it belongs to the blonde behind KOT".

To me, it looks like a goof. It doesn't appear that the hand is connected to an arm or any person. Even homestar, even though he's armless, doesn't have a hand when he's holding something. Not a big deal...just looked like a legit goof to me. What does anyone else think about this? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:47, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just looked at it again. Sure looked like the mug, hand, wrist, & forearm belong to the Blonde Pom Pom Girl. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it has an arm. The arm is really skinny, so you might have thought it was a finger or something. --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 18:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok - I looked again, and this time increased the resolution, and I can see that I was in fact wrong...although you gotta admit that it's kinda weird looking. --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:36, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, since when were Pom Pom's girlfriends anatomically correct? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I WAS WAITING FOR THIS??? ==

OMG! I waited weeks for this! And look what came out! It was BAAAAD! But I did like the hyped up Strong Sad and the party easter egg. -Kinsey
:Is this page the place for comments like this? (I'm actually wondering.) I thought the talk pages were for discussing the ongoing development of the articles, not for chit chat. It seems like the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] would be a better venue for remarks like these. Am I right or wrong? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Right. The forum was set up to get rid of general comments on the wiki. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bugs? ==
When Strong Bad says "Well, take care, Bubs", it sounds to me like he says "Bugs" instead of "Bubs". Is this just my imagination or what?--[[User:4.244.45.46|4.244.45.46]] 01:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I heard that too. I just wasn't sure. That's why ''I'' didn't add it to the page. --[[User:Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] 05:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Three Letter What?! ==
Can we link [[Wikipedia:List of three-letter English words|this list]] somewhere in the fun-facts? I think it would be interesting [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 16:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, why not? It's only a link, not changing any text. ''{adds link}'' Oh, and look, there's "yok" in the list after all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== SNAP! ==

I dunno what happened, but when I saw Bubs' back after Strong Bad left, it seemed like a gap in the frames.

:Yeah, it looks a bit weird, but given the shot of "real" with the closeup of SB's mouth, I think it's intentional. It's in the transcript now. {{User:phlip/sig}} 20:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:This email had a couple of things in its flash video that I feel are uncharacteristic of TBC: the use of the default flash object zoom, for example, that doesn't quite zoom accurately, making objects appear to move laterally while zooming in - Bubs' back, for example. Perhaps that's intentional, but it looked different as well as being somewhat unique among the SBemails. --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]]|[[User talk:Southpaw018|talk]] 21:53, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: As somebody who uses Flash on a regular basis, I can say that the way certain objects appear to move laterally when zooming is, in this cartoon at least, intentional and not a symptom of Flash's crappy zoom. I imagine TBC probably made objects such as SB's computer stool move at a different rate to the background to make the whole scene seem less flat.

== Whoa! ==
Do we really need to differentiate between "Wow" and "Whoa"?
:Well, Anonny, according to the above thread, several people think it's one or the other, but aren't necessarily sure which. I myself think it ''sounds'' like "whoa", but his mouth movements suggest "wow" more. Hence, the footnote. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::It just seems weird. Phonetically they're about one sound apart, and neither of them have any meaning other than to suggest surprise...
:It's not so much to differentiate between them, rather that if it's not there, people will constantly edit it one way or the other, and the edit history will be flooded people changing it from wow to woah and vice versa. {{User:phlip/sig}} 22:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What about an only-visible-on-edit note?
:I don't think that's good enough. First of all, the note is to readers, not editors. There will come a time when this page isn't edited that much. Second, like I said, most people are sure it's one or the other, but even after repeated examinations, they can't decide between the two. As long as there's that uncertainty, a footnote is appropriate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:44, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Tejas ==

Well I changed Tejas to Tehas before, now I see it's back to Tejas with a link to history of Tejas, but I think the whole point was missed.

If I'm reading that line, or even reading the page it links too, and I don't know J is pronounced like H in spanish, it sounds to me like this site is saying the word is pronounced Teh-Jas, with a hard english J. If you want to leave the J there, please at least have it mentioned somewhere that it's pronounced like an H.

And I still don't think changing it to Tejas signifies the H sound any more than Texas does. Ever heard how they pronounce "Mexico" in spanish? Meh-hee-ko. X can sound like an H too. If the purpose of the Tejas line is to communicate that it's pronounced like an H, it doesn't communicate that at all. Please either make it Tehas or put somewhere that the J is pronounced like an H for the sake of accuracy. [[User:216.203.251.141|216.203.251.141]]

Alright, no one cares to respond. I just noticed it was It's dot com who changed it to Tejas. And insisted no less.

Why? Is it just because I'm not part of this group that any change I try to make gets reverted? Whose blessing do I need to get to be able to fix minor snafoos I see without having to make a big thing about it every time? How is Tejas better than Tehas in that sentence >_< Alright, If for some reason someone NEEDS to see Tejas there, even though it doesn't represent what's actually pronounced, I'll attempt a compromise. If someone else can word what I'm adding better, fine, but don't do it just cause you want it worded YOUR way please, do it because there's an actual better way to do it. And if it's just plain reverted altogether this time without at least someone letting me know why here, I'm done trying to contribute, it's just power abuse and it'll happen every time I try to improve something. [[User:216.203.250.80|216.203.250.80]]

:hey man, I understand what you want to do, and why you think it would be an improvement, but I completely disagree with you. I like it the way it is because it is properly spelled and completely accurate. You are suggesting that they purposefully misspell a word because of the way it is pronounced. That would just be backwards. When SB says "Tejas", he isn't speaking English, he's speaking Spanish, and therefore, proper Spanish spelling should be used.
:If SB were to speak French and say "oui", would you suggest that they spell it "whee"? [[User:Nueve|-nueve-]]

::Nueve makes some excellent points.<div style="text-indent:2em">I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner, Anonymous. Every now and then (about once a day) I just flat out lose consciousness for what seems like eight hours at a time. It's very disconcerting, believe you me. Then there's the business of my having to earn money. Man, going to work can really cut into your online wiki time, can't it?</div><div style="text-indent:2em">The reason "Tejas" is superior to "Tehas" is that "Tejas" is an actual word, and Strong Bad is saying that word. I realize that knowing how to pronounce it requires people to be just a little culturally literate, but failing that they can look it up, and failing ''that'' they can go watch the cartoon. The transcript is supposed to document the toon, but it doesn't have to spell out every little mundane detail. And it's not like "Tejas" is unheard-of in English-language contexts. Here's a website based out of India called [http://www.tejasnetworks.com Tejas Networks].</div><div style="text-indent:2em">You're right that "Texas" and "Tejas" are pronounced the same in Spanish, but "Tejas" is the preferred form in Spanish-language contexts, even on [http://www.bazanforcongress.com/spanish_map.html web pages] with both English and Spanish elements. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>

:Just a comment: Tejas has been used in a previous e-mail transcript... [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 17:37, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bact to Back ==
Both backs are clickable when the screen fade back in at the end. --[[User:Technochocolate|Technochocolate]]

==Reflect on this==
Some people keep trying to add that SB had no reflection in the Lappy when this first came out. As I watched it less than an hour after it came out, I can honestly say that I don't remember this at all. Anyone else? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:44, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==
===Definitely not the hat, though (DECLINED)===
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ain't Never Gonna Accept It Without The Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a [http://www.steelydan.com/lyrroyalscam.html#track5 Steely Dan] reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)
* Here's something: '''SECOND WITH EVERYBODY.''' Although I haven't watched "That 70's Show", this could either be: 1, a coincidence, or, 2 as tomstiff said, another refrence. [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I was just being facetious about the Steely Dan reference. Sometimes a fez is just a brimless cone-shaped flat-crowned tasseled hat made of red felt worn especially by men in eastern Mediterranean countries. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline.''' Possible, but... nah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Just delete this waste of html now!''' this is just stupid. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second!'''[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Typing Tutor Turbo-DECLINED!''' No no no no! Come on, a fez is a CAP! -- [[User:MegamanEXE|MegamanEXE]] 11:15 AM 9 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Talk:boring (really)

Homeschool Winner — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 02:53:08 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Auugh! */

==Good Boring or Bad Boring?==
Oh my god, I can't believe I just watched that. How can I get back the four minutes of my life I lost? Why TBC WHY?

Intensely boring shark-jumping action!!! I liked those fireworks.

:It was SUPPOSED to be boring. All the "interesting" characters were acting dull as heck, while the more "boring" characters are hyped up on caffeine or throwing wild parties. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Space Ghost Homage?==
I know this would be horribly shot down if I tried to put it in Fun Facts, but given that TBC likely watch Adult Swim, I can't help feeling that this email was a Space Ghost Coast to Coast homage. Watch an ep like "Fire Ant" to see what I mean (10 minutes of Space Ghost crawling across a landscape muttering inane threats!). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 04:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so, in Space Ghost it just has him walking around on his knees for ten minutes, here Strong Bad does stuff, but said stuff is pretty dull. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

:It was more the tone of the email that reminded me of SG -- long awkward pauses with nonsensical comments, and then all of a sudden something crazy happens... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Format Problem?==
and this should probably be working... It appears that the first apostrophe isn't being processed as part of a command... [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Dont know what's happening with that.. now it shows up as the italicized text is showing up bold and vice versa.. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

==Loved It!==
I LOVED this email!!--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

I gotta say, Matt did some AWESOME voice work here, Mike's animation was completely, boringly awesome, and the background music was some of the greatest yet! The humor was over the top and Homestar closing his eyes make me fall off my chair laughing! --[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:48, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bubs' speech ==

He said "I remember learning math in school" .. I put my speaker at full volume .. It's math - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]
: I had mine at full volume too and I'm certain it's "that". "Math" doesn't really fit the context quite as well anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Listened to it a few more times (speaker at full volume as well) and it was unmistakably "that"; clear consonants and everything. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Listened to it a few more times and must apologize for me thinking so .. it is just that Bubs' voice is so .. "unclear" let's just say .. that it is hard to tell between the two when he is the speaker. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

== Niels Bohr ==
Since I changed the entry to say who the picture was for, I figured I'd put my justification here. The picture is addressed to "S2," and it seems reasonable to interpret S-squared as Strong Sad.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 03:12, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Plus, Strong Sad is the one who's a fan of him. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 06:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, "S squared" is the same as "S multiplied by S" which would be written as "SS" for Strong Sad --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 11:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Algebra aside, and speaking of [http://www.answers.com/topic/string-computer-science#wp-Formal_theory mathematical strings], S² is a common abbreviation for SS {{User:phlip/sig}} 13:09, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Possible Inside Reference==
Bub's "Be's" was last heard from Stong Bad in [[the bet]] ("Let's see you be's cool"). Was there any other occasion?

:The toons-menu description of ''Homestar vs. Little Girl 2'' says, "Little Girl be's cute." That's why I don't think this is a reference. It is just a word the Brothers Chaps throw out now and then. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 11:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Wowowowhat?==

I'm rather convinced that Strong Bad says "What?" at the same time that Homestar says "Wow," but this doesn't seem to be a universal view. Opinions? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

They both say Wow. I'm 100% certain.

Not sure, myself. Listened again and I can't quite tell, but I'm leaning towards "Wow" simply because it doesn't make much sense for Strong Bad to say "What?" when he just finished talking with Bubs about that very subject. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 06:05, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: It is kinda hard to discern, I'll admit. However, I can VERY clearly hear that SB's intonation rises (as though he's asking a question) as Homestar's falls. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm almost positive I hear "Wow" here instead of "What". Strong Bad has kind of a strange way of saying it, but it's one I hear very often in his voice (it's usually "Whoa" or "Ohh", however). His intonation rises, but falls at the very end. It doesn't sound like a question to me. Also, I don't hear a hard "t" sound, and I think that would be pretty noticeable after checking it a few times. The entire word doesn't seem to have any hard sounds. Lastly, check out his mouth; it starts out with a rounded "o" shape then opens up into its normal rectangle shape. I think "Wow" fits that far better than "What" does. Now that I see both sides of the argument though, it's hard to be sure. Some more opinions would be nice. - [[User:71.113.43.208|71.113.43.208]] 09:36, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure SB says "Woah" and then HR says "Wow". {{User:phlip/sig}} 09:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is definitely definitely definitely not "what". SB's intonation rises as homestar's falls yes, but if you try to block out homestar's and listen JUST to SB's inotation, you'll notice it falls again after the rise, which is EXACTLY how someone says "woah" or "wow", with a rise then a fall. Can we please PLEASE not leave "what" there? It looks like no one but Jay is advocating it being what, so why is his opinion trumping everyone else's? It's so very obviously not what. maybe it's woah maybe it's wow, but for god's sake let it be changed! Either of those is better than what. Woah or Wow are both probably correct, they're essentially the same word, but it isn't what!

Nothing? No one cares that anyone who changes the "what" gets reverted despite, from what I see, no one else thinking that's what it is? sigh.

:Eh, I hear "what" too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's got to be "wow". Like Anonny said up there, it's the word that fits the movements of his mouth best. Or possibly "whoa", but definitely ''not'' "what". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Good point. He does have a round mouth while saying the line, so it probably ''isn't'' what. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: He has a round mouth when he says "what" earlier in ''that very scene'' (In "What are you... um... doing?") But I listened more closely, and I think I'm starting to agree with "whoa" - but it's definitely definitely definitely not "wow", to quote Anonny up there. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Sudden stop? ==

This toon stops most of the way through (when Strong Bad is listing three letter words and types "cod, for, her") for me, can anyone help? I've tried everything. Refresh, Hard Refresh, Cache clearing, saving the .SWF...can anyone help me? -[[User:Homestar Runnar]]

Elaborate. I think it's MEANT to do that...

== Auugh! ==

What the- I don't usually send e-mails but this week I sent in ten a DAY and none of mine ever get picked! Whaddaya need, 100 a day? Poofy

:Probably more. TBC get thousands a day and only a tiny fraction are ever read at all. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:26, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, they get about 3,000 a day, (although a ton are from websites in which people signed up and didn't want to submit their own email addresses so they use Strong Bad's) so it's pretty damn hard! Some time during the summer I'm gonna write 100 emails a day (It should take less than an hour each day) for 10 days and send in 1,000 on the same day. It's very obnoxious of me, but I would love myself if my email got in. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I see vs. Eye see ==

We need to reach a consensus. Does Homestar say, "More like... ''Eye'' see," or, "More like... ''I'' see"? I think the joke here is that he says ''I'' see because he can't close his eyes. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 11:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree. It's the issue of Homestar seeing as opposed to Strong Bad, so there's emphasis on Homestar, and seeing as "I" represents Homestar, emphasis on "I" instead of "eye" makes sense. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 12:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Agreed - that's how I saw the joke as well. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 16:38, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:no, wrong! the joke is that Homestar is saying the word "eye". This may also be a reference to a previous halloween cartoon, where Homestar claims the noise that eyes make is "seeee... seee...." You see the character of Homestar says stupid things a lot. You should consult his character page for more information. It's eye, not I.

Footnote time. We don't want to look stupid. I'd say it's obviously "I", though. TBC don't go in for those kind of cheap puns...

I think we should leave it as is, by the way. The same thing was done in "for kids" with SB saying "I'LL KILL ALL OF YOUR DOGS/DOLLS!" and it looks fine.

I think the footnote DOES make us look stupid. How does "eye" fit into that context at all? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The whole "Eye" thing needs to go. It doesn't make any sense and is really stupid. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

''Eye'' agree ... I mean ''I'' agree ... it's ''I'' see. Get rid of the footnotes! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Doing ==
Strong Bad saying "What are you...uh...doing" keeps getting inserted as an inside reference to [[car]], but since it keeps getting reverted, it apparently is not. Just mentioning this "worthless non-fact" to prevent further mistakes from being made by folks who don't page back through the history. [[User:221.218.44.253|221.218.44.253]] 16:28, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Indeed. The doing/doyng car reference is currently in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]]. Please do not add it as a reference at this time. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Egg Goof? ==

I added this fun fact, which was later removed by [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]:
*On the King Of Town easter egg, you see a free-floating hand holding a mug of beer or soda, that is not connected to any character on the screen.

The response was "it belongs to the blonde behind KOT".

To me, it looks like a goof. It doesn't appear that the hand is connected to an arm or any person. Even homestar, even though he's armless, doesn't have a hand when he's holding something. Not a big deal...just looked like a legit goof to me. What does anyone else think about this? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:47, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just looked at it again. Sure looked like the mug, hand, wrist, & forearm belong to the Blonde Pom Pom Girl. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it has an arm. The arm is really skinny, so you might have thought it was a finger or something. --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 18:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok - I looked again, and this time increased the resolution, and I can see that I was in fact wrong...although you gotta admit that it's kinda weird looking. --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:36, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I WAS WAITING FOR THIS??? ==

OMG! I waited weeks for this! And look what came out! It was BAAAAD! But I did like the hyped up Strong Sad and the party easter egg. -Kinsey
:Is this page the place for comments like this? (I'm actually wondering.) I thought the talk pages were for discussing the ongoing development of the articles, not for chit chat. It seems like the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] would be a better venue for remarks like these. Am I right or wrong? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Right. The forum was set up to get rid of general comments on the wiki. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bugs? ==
When Strong Bad says "Well, take care, Bubs", it sounds to me like he says "Bugs" instead of "Bubs". Is this just my imagination or what?--[[User:4.244.45.46|4.244.45.46]] 01:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I heard that too. I just wasn't sure. That's why ''I'' didn't add it to the page. --[[User:Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] 05:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Three Letter What?! ==
Can we link [[Wikipedia:List of three-letter English words|this list]] somewhere in the fun-facts? I think it would be interesting [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 16:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, why not? It's only a link, not changing any text. ''{adds link}'' Oh, and look, there's "yok" in the list after all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== SNAP! ==

I dunno what happened, but when I saw Bubs' back after Strong Bad left, it seemed like a gap in the frames.

:Yeah, it looks a bit weird, but given the shot of "real" with the closeup of SB's mouth, I think it's intentional. It's in the transcript now. {{User:phlip/sig}} 20:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:This email had a couple of things in its flash video that I feel are uncharacteristic of TBC: the use of the default flash object zoom, for example, that doesn't quite zoom accurately, making objects appear to move laterally while zooming in - Bubs' back, for example. Perhaps that's intentional, but it looked different as well as being somewhat unique among the SBemails. --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]]|[[User talk:Southpaw018|talk]] 21:53, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: As somebody who uses Flash on a regular basis, I can say that the way certain objects appear to move laterally when zooming is, in this cartoon at least, intentional and not a symptom of Flash's crappy zoom. I imagine TBC probably made objects such as SB's computer stool move at a different rate to the background to make the whole scene seem less flat.

== Whoa! ==
Do we really need to differentiate between "Wow" and "Whoa"?
:Well, Anonny, according to the above thread, several people think it's one or the other, but aren't necessarily sure which. I myself think it ''sounds'' like "whoa", but his mouth movements suggest "wow" more. Hence, the footnote. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::It just seems weird. Phonetically they're about one sound apart, and neither of them have any meaning other than to suggest surprise...
:It's not so much to differentiate between them, rather that if it's not there, people will constantly edit it one way or the other, and the edit history will be flooded people changing it from wow to woah and vice versa. {{User:phlip/sig}} 22:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What about an only-visible-on-edit note?
:I don't think that's good enough. First of all, the note is to readers, not editors. There will come a time when this page isn't edited that much. Second, like I said, most people are sure it's one or the other, but even after repeated examinations, they can't decide between the two. As long as there's that uncertainty, a footnote is appropriate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:44, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Tejas ==

Well I changed Tejas to Tehas before, now I see it's back to Tejas with a link to history of Tejas, but I think the whole point was missed.

If I'm reading that line, or even reading the page it links too, and I don't know J is pronounced like H in spanish, it sounds to me like this site is saying the word is pronounced Teh-Jas, with a hard english J. If you want to leave the J there, please at least have it mentioned somewhere that it's pronounced like an H.

And I still don't think changing it to Tejas signifies the H sound any more than Texas does. Ever heard how they pronounce "Mexico" in spanish? Meh-hee-ko. X can sound like an H too. If the purpose of the Tejas line is to communicate that it's pronounced like an H, it doesn't communicate that at all. Please either make it Tehas or put somewhere that the J is pronounced like an H for the sake of accuracy. [[User:216.203.251.141|216.203.251.141]]

Alright, no one cares to respond. I just noticed it was It's dot com who changed it to Tejas. And insisted no less.

Why? Is it just because I'm not part of this group that any change I try to make gets reverted? Whose blessing do I need to get to be able to fix minor snafoos I see without having to make a big thing about it every time? How is Tejas better than Tehas in that sentence >_< Alright, If for some reason someone NEEDS to see Tejas there, even though it doesn't represent what's actually pronounced, I'll attempt a compromise. If someone else can word what I'm adding better, fine, but don't do it just cause you want it worded YOUR way please, do it because there's an actual better way to do it. And if it's just plain reverted altogether this time without at least someone letting me know why here, I'm done trying to contribute, it's just power abuse and it'll happen every time I try to improve something. [[User:216.203.250.80|216.203.250.80]]

:hey man, I understand what you want to do, and why you think it would be an improvement, but I completely disagree with you. I like it the way it is because it is properly spelled and completely accurate. You are suggesting that they purposefully misspell a word because of the way it is pronounced. That would just be backwards. When SB says "Tejas", he isn't speaking English, he's speaking Spanish, and therefore, proper Spanish spelling should be used.
:If SB were to speak French and say "oui", would you suggest that they spell it "whee"? [[User:Nueve|-nueve-]]

::Nueve makes some excellent points.<div style="text-indent:2em">I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner, Anonymous. Every now and then (about once a day) I just flat out lose consciousness for what seems like eight hours at a time. It's very disconcerting, believe you me. Then there's the business of my having to earn money. Man, going to work can really cut into your online wiki time, can't it?</div><div style="text-indent:2em">The reason "Tejas" is superior to "Tehas" is that "Tejas" is an actual word, and Strong Bad is saying that word. I realize that knowing how to pronounce it requires people to be just a little culturally literate, but failing that they can look it up, and failing ''that'' they can go watch the cartoon. The transcript is supposed to document the toon, but it doesn't have to spell out every little mundane detail. And it's not like "Tejas" is unheard-of in English-language contexts. Here's a website based out of India called [http://www.tejasnetworks.com Tejas Networks].</div><div style="text-indent:2em">You're right that "Texas" and "Tejas" are pronounced the same in Spanish, but "Tejas" is the preferred form in Spanish-language contexts, even on [http://www.bazanforcongress.com/spanish_map.html web pages] with both English and Spanish elements. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>

:Just a comment: Tejas has been used in a previous e-mail transcript... [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 17:37, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bact to Back ==
Both backs are clickable when the screen fade back in at the end. --[[User:Technochocolate|Technochocolate]]

==Reflect on this==
Some people keep trying to add that SB had no reflection in the Lappy when this first came out. As I watched it less than an hour after it came out, I can honestly say that I don't remember this at all. Anyone else? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:44, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==
===Definitely not the hat, though (DECLINED)===
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ain't Never Gonna Accept It Without The Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a [http://www.steelydan.com/lyrroyalscam.html#track5 Steely Dan] reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)
* Here's something: '''SECOND WITH EVERYBODY.''' Although I haven't watched "That 70's Show", this could either be: 1, a coincidence, or, 2 as tomstiff said, another refrence. [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I was just being facetious about the Steely Dan reference. Sometimes a fez is just a brimless cone-shaped flat-crowned tasseled hat made of red felt worn especially by men in eastern Mediterranean countries. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline.''' Possible, but... nah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Just delete this waste of html now!''' this is just stupid. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second!'''[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Typing Tutor Turbo-DECLINED!''' No no no no! Come on, a fez is a CAP! -- [[User:MegamanEXE|MegamanEXE]] 11:15 AM 9 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Talk:boring (really)

Homeschool Winner — Fri, 10 Jun 2005 02:48:38 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Loved It! */

==Good Boring or Bad Boring?==
Oh my god, I can't believe I just watched that. How can I get back the four minutes of my life I lost? Why TBC WHY?

Intensely boring shark-jumping action!!! I liked those fireworks.

:It was SUPPOSED to be boring. All the "interesting" characters were acting dull as heck, while the more "boring" characters are hyped up on caffeine or throwing wild parties. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Space Ghost Homage?==
I know this would be horribly shot down if I tried to put it in Fun Facts, but given that TBC likely watch Adult Swim, I can't help feeling that this email was a Space Ghost Coast to Coast homage. Watch an ep like "Fire Ant" to see what I mean (10 minutes of Space Ghost crawling across a landscape muttering inane threats!). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 04:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so, in Space Ghost it just has him walking around on his knees for ten minutes, here Strong Bad does stuff, but said stuff is pretty dull. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

:It was more the tone of the email that reminded me of SG -- long awkward pauses with nonsensical comments, and then all of a sudden something crazy happens... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Format Problem?==
and this should probably be working... It appears that the first apostrophe isn't being processed as part of a command... [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Dont know what's happening with that.. now it shows up as the italicized text is showing up bold and vice versa.. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

==Loved It!==
I LOVED this email!!--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|That crazy DumDe!]]

I gotta say, Matt did some AWESOME voice work here, Mike's animation was completely, boringly awesome, and the background music was some of the greatest yet! The humor was over the top and Homestar closing his eyes make me fall off my chair laughing! --[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:48, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bubs' speech ==

He said "I remember learning math in school" .. I put my speaker at full volume .. It's math - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]
: I had mine at full volume too and I'm certain it's "that". "Math" doesn't really fit the context quite as well anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Listened to it a few more times (speaker at full volume as well) and it was unmistakably "that"; clear consonants and everything. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Listened to it a few more times and must apologize for me thinking so .. it is just that Bubs' voice is so .. "unclear" let's just say .. that it is hard to tell between the two when he is the speaker. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

== Niels Bohr ==
Since I changed the entry to say who the picture was for, I figured I'd put my justification here. The picture is addressed to "S2," and it seems reasonable to interpret S-squared as Strong Sad.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 03:12, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Plus, Strong Sad is the one who's a fan of him. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 06:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, "S squared" is the same as "S multiplied by S" which would be written as "SS" for Strong Sad --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 11:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Algebra aside, and speaking of [http://www.answers.com/topic/string-computer-science#wp-Formal_theory mathematical strings], S² is a common abbreviation for SS {{User:phlip/sig}} 13:09, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Possible Inside Reference==
Bub's "Be's" was last heard from Stong Bad in [[the bet]] ("Let's see you be's cool"). Was there any other occasion?

:The toons-menu description of ''Homestar vs. Little Girl 2'' says, "Little Girl be's cute." That's why I don't think this is a reference. It is just a word the Brothers Chaps throw out now and then. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 11:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Wowowowhat?==

I'm rather convinced that Strong Bad says "What?" at the same time that Homestar says "Wow," but this doesn't seem to be a universal view. Opinions? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

They both say Wow. I'm 100% certain.

Not sure, myself. Listened again and I can't quite tell, but I'm leaning towards "Wow" simply because it doesn't make much sense for Strong Bad to say "What?" when he just finished talking with Bubs about that very subject. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 06:05, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: It is kinda hard to discern, I'll admit. However, I can VERY clearly hear that SB's intonation rises (as though he's asking a question) as Homestar's falls. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm almost positive I hear "Wow" here instead of "What". Strong Bad has kind of a strange way of saying it, but it's one I hear very often in his voice (it's usually "Whoa" or "Ohh", however). His intonation rises, but falls at the very end. It doesn't sound like a question to me. Also, I don't hear a hard "t" sound, and I think that would be pretty noticeable after checking it a few times. The entire word doesn't seem to have any hard sounds. Lastly, check out his mouth; it starts out with a rounded "o" shape then opens up into its normal rectangle shape. I think "Wow" fits that far better than "What" does. Now that I see both sides of the argument though, it's hard to be sure. Some more opinions would be nice. - [[User:71.113.43.208|71.113.43.208]] 09:36, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure SB says "Woah" and then HR says "Wow". {{User:phlip/sig}} 09:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is definitely definitely definitely not "what". SB's intonation rises as homestar's falls yes, but if you try to block out homestar's and listen JUST to SB's inotation, you'll notice it falls again after the rise, which is EXACTLY how someone says "woah" or "wow", with a rise then a fall. Can we please PLEASE not leave "what" there? It looks like no one but Jay is advocating it being what, so why is his opinion trumping everyone else's? It's so very obviously not what. maybe it's woah maybe it's wow, but for god's sake let it be changed! Either of those is better than what. Woah or Wow are both probably correct, they're essentially the same word, but it isn't what!

Nothing? No one cares that anyone who changes the "what" gets reverted despite, from what I see, no one else thinking that's what it is? sigh.

:Eh, I hear "what" too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's got to be "wow". Like Anonny said up there, it's the word that fits the movements of his mouth best. Or possibly "whoa", but definitely ''not'' "what". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:37, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Good point. He does have a round mouth while saying the line, so it probably ''isn't'' what. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: He has a round mouth when he says "what" earlier in ''that very scene'' (In "What are you... um... doing?") But I listened more closely, and I think I'm starting to agree with "whoa" - but it's definitely definitely definitely not "wow", to quote Anonny up there. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Sudden stop? ==

This toon stops most of the way through (when Strong Bad is listing three letter words and types "cod, for, her") for me, can anyone help? I've tried everything. Refresh, Hard Refresh, Cache clearing, saving the .SWF...can anyone help me? -[[User:Homestar Runnar]]

Elaborate. I think it's MEANT to do that...

== Auugh! ==

What the- I don't usually send e-mails but this week I sent in ten a DAY and none of mine ever get picked! Whaddaya need, 100 a day? Poofy

:Probably more. TBC get thousands a day and only a tiny fraction are ever read at all. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:26, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I see vs. Eye see ==

We need to reach a consensus. Does Homestar say, "More like... ''Eye'' see," or, "More like... ''I'' see"? I think the joke here is that he says ''I'' see because he can't close his eyes. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 11:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I agree. It's the issue of Homestar seeing as opposed to Strong Bad, so there's emphasis on Homestar, and seeing as "I" represents Homestar, emphasis on "I" instead of "eye" makes sense. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 12:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Agreed - that's how I saw the joke as well. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 16:38, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:no, wrong! the joke is that Homestar is saying the word "eye". This may also be a reference to a previous halloween cartoon, where Homestar claims the noise that eyes make is "seeee... seee...." You see the character of Homestar says stupid things a lot. You should consult his character page for more information. It's eye, not I.

Footnote time. We don't want to look stupid. I'd say it's obviously "I", though. TBC don't go in for those kind of cheap puns...

I think we should leave it as is, by the way. The same thing was done in "for kids" with SB saying "I'LL KILL ALL OF YOUR DOGS/DOLLS!" and it looks fine.

I think the footnote DOES make us look stupid. How does "eye" fit into that context at all? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The whole "Eye" thing needs to go. It doesn't make any sense and is really stupid. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

''Eye'' agree ... I mean ''I'' agree ... it's ''I'' see. Get rid of the footnotes! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Doing ==
Strong Bad saying "What are you...uh...doing" keeps getting inserted as an inside reference to [[car]], but since it keeps getting reverted, it apparently is not. Just mentioning this "worthless non-fact" to prevent further mistakes from being made by folks who don't page back through the history. [[User:221.218.44.253|221.218.44.253]] 16:28, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Indeed. The doing/doyng car reference is currently in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]]. Please do not add it as a reference at this time. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Egg Goof? ==

I added this fun fact, which was later removed by [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]:
*On the King Of Town easter egg, you see a free-floating hand holding a mug of beer or soda, that is not connected to any character on the screen.

The response was "it belongs to the blonde behind KOT".

To me, it looks like a goof. It doesn't appear that the hand is connected to an arm or any person. Even homestar, even though he's armless, doesn't have a hand when he's holding something. Not a big deal...just looked like a legit goof to me. What does anyone else think about this? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:47, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just looked at it again. Sure looked like the mug, hand, wrist, & forearm belong to the Blonde Pom Pom Girl. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it has an arm. The arm is really skinny, so you might have thought it was a finger or something. --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 18:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok - I looked again, and this time increased the resolution, and I can see that I was in fact wrong...although you gotta admit that it's kinda weird looking. --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 16:36, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I WAS WAITING FOR THIS??? ==

OMG! I waited weeks for this! And look what came out! It was BAAAAD! But I did like the hyped up Strong Sad and the party easter egg. -Kinsey
:Is this page the place for comments like this? (I'm actually wondering.) I thought the talk pages were for discussing the ongoing development of the articles, not for chit chat. It seems like the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] would be a better venue for remarks like these. Am I right or wrong? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Right. The forum was set up to get rid of general comments on the wiki. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:44, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bugs? ==
When Strong Bad says "Well, take care, Bubs", it sounds to me like he says "Bugs" instead of "Bubs". Is this just my imagination or what?--[[User:4.244.45.46|4.244.45.46]] 01:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I heard that too. I just wasn't sure. That's why ''I'' didn't add it to the page. --[[User:Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] 05:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Three Letter What?! ==
Can we link [[Wikipedia:List of three-letter English words|this list]] somewhere in the fun-facts? I think it would be interesting [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 16:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, why not? It's only a link, not changing any text. ''{adds link}'' Oh, and look, there's "yok" in the list after all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== SNAP! ==

I dunno what happened, but when I saw Bubs' back after Strong Bad left, it seemed like a gap in the frames.

:Yeah, it looks a bit weird, but given the shot of "real" with the closeup of SB's mouth, I think it's intentional. It's in the transcript now. {{User:phlip/sig}} 20:49, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:This email had a couple of things in its flash video that I feel are uncharacteristic of TBC: the use of the default flash object zoom, for example, that doesn't quite zoom accurately, making objects appear to move laterally while zooming in - Bubs' back, for example. Perhaps that's intentional, but it looked different as well as being somewhat unique among the SBemails. --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]]|[[User talk:Southpaw018|talk]] 21:53, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: As somebody who uses Flash on a regular basis, I can say that the way certain objects appear to move laterally when zooming is, in this cartoon at least, intentional and not a symptom of Flash's crappy zoom. I imagine TBC probably made objects such as SB's computer stool move at a different rate to the background to make the whole scene seem less flat.

== Whoa! ==
Do we really need to differentiate between "Wow" and "Whoa"?
:Well, Anonny, according to the above thread, several people think it's one or the other, but aren't necessarily sure which. I myself think it ''sounds'' like "whoa", but his mouth movements suggest "wow" more. Hence, the footnote. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::It just seems weird. Phonetically they're about one sound apart, and neither of them have any meaning other than to suggest surprise...
:It's not so much to differentiate between them, rather that if it's not there, people will constantly edit it one way or the other, and the edit history will be flooded people changing it from wow to woah and vice versa. {{User:phlip/sig}} 22:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What about an only-visible-on-edit note?
:I don't think that's good enough. First of all, the note is to readers, not editors. There will come a time when this page isn't edited that much. Second, like I said, most people are sure it's one or the other, but even after repeated examinations, they can't decide between the two. As long as there's that uncertainty, a footnote is appropriate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:44, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Tejas ==

Well I changed Tejas to Tehas before, now I see it's back to Tejas with a link to history of Tejas, but I think the whole point was missed.

If I'm reading that line, or even reading the page it links too, and I don't know J is pronounced like H in spanish, it sounds to me like this site is saying the word is pronounced Teh-Jas, with a hard english J. If you want to leave the J there, please at least have it mentioned somewhere that it's pronounced like an H.

And I still don't think changing it to Tejas signifies the H sound any more than Texas does. Ever heard how they pronounce "Mexico" in spanish? Meh-hee-ko. X can sound like an H too. If the purpose of the Tejas line is to communicate that it's pronounced like an H, it doesn't communicate that at all. Please either make it Tehas or put somewhere that the J is pronounced like an H for the sake of accuracy. [[User:216.203.251.141|216.203.251.141]]

Alright, no one cares to respond. I just noticed it was It's dot com who changed it to Tejas. And insisted no less.

Why? Is it just because I'm not part of this group that any change I try to make gets reverted? Whose blessing do I need to get to be able to fix minor snafoos I see without having to make a big thing about it every time? How is Tejas better than Tehas in that sentence >_< Alright, If for some reason someone NEEDS to see Tejas there, even though it doesn't represent what's actually pronounced, I'll attempt a compromise. If someone else can word what I'm adding better, fine, but don't do it just cause you want it worded YOUR way please, do it because there's an actual better way to do it. And if it's just plain reverted altogether this time without at least someone letting me know why here, I'm done trying to contribute, it's just power abuse and it'll happen every time I try to improve something. [[User:216.203.250.80|216.203.250.80]]

:hey man, I understand what you want to do, and why you think it would be an improvement, but I completely disagree with you. I like it the way it is because it is properly spelled and completely accurate. You are suggesting that they purposefully misspell a word because of the way it is pronounced. That would just be backwards. When SB says "Tejas", he isn't speaking English, he's speaking Spanish, and therefore, proper Spanish spelling should be used.
:If SB were to speak French and say "oui", would you suggest that they spell it "whee"? [[User:Nueve|-nueve-]]

::Nueve makes some excellent points.<div style="text-indent:2em">I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner, Anonymous. Every now and then (about once a day) I just flat out lose consciousness for what seems like eight hours at a time. It's very disconcerting, believe you me. Then there's the business of my having to earn money. Man, going to work can really cut into your online wiki time, can't it?</div><div style="text-indent:2em">The reason "Tejas" is superior to "Tehas" is that "Tejas" is an actual word, and Strong Bad is saying that word. I realize that knowing how to pronounce it requires people to be just a little culturally literate, but failing that they can look it up, and failing ''that'' they can go watch the cartoon. The transcript is supposed to document the toon, but it doesn't have to spell out every little mundane detail. And it's not like "Tejas" is unheard-of in English-language contexts. Here's a website based out of India called [http://www.tejasnetworks.com Tejas Networks].</div><div style="text-indent:2em">You're right that "Texas" and "Tejas" are pronounced the same in Spanish, but "Tejas" is the preferred form in Spanish-language contexts, even on [http://www.bazanforcongress.com/spanish_map.html web pages] with both English and Spanish elements. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>

:Just a comment: Tejas has been used in a previous e-mail transcript... [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 17:37, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Bact to Back ==
Both backs are clickable when the screen fade back in at the end. --[[User:Technochocolate|Technochocolate]]

==Reflect on this==
Some people keep trying to add that SB had no reflection in the Lappy when this first came out. As I watched it less than an hour after it came out, I can honestly say that I don't remember this at all. Anyone else? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:44, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==
===Definitely not the hat, though (DECLINED)===
One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
* '''Turbo-decline''' Do I even have to say anything? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 02:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline''' In fact, I wouldn't even have wasted my time STUFFing it. Real words that have been around for centuries (if not longer) are not references to sitcoms. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Strong decline''' I already deleted it and I stand by this. It's a word. A three letter word. Any more speculation is moot. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:11, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* here's a three letter word that I know... '''DECLINE!!!!!!!!!''' [[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 02:40, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Or it could be a reference to Skull from the popular web comic PVP who sometimes wears a...nuts to it. This fun fact sucks. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*And prepare to experience the fury of... the '''Decline.''' When Strong Bad says wet, it might be a reference to the [[Theme Song Video]] in which Homestar dives into a pool and gets wet. Of course, it's probably not. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ain't Never Gonna Accept It Without The Fez On.''' Ummm, decline. It's obviously a [http://www.steelydan.com/lyrroyalscam.html#track5 Steely Dan] reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, no it isn't a "refference." It's not even a reference. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making this fact appear on this site is NOT what I had in mind!''' It is a three letter word. Okay? It is not a reference to That 70's Show, just as it is not a reference to Austin Powers. So I say '''DECLINE.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:18, 7 Jun 2005 (EST)
* Here's something: '''SECOND WITH EVERYBODY.''' Although I haven't watched "That 70's Show", this could either be: 1, a coincidence, or, 2 as tomstiff said, another refrence. [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I was just being facetious about the Steely Dan reference. Sometimes a fez is just a brimless cone-shaped flat-crowned tasseled hat made of red felt worn especially by men in eastern Mediterranean countries. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:10, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''Decline.''' Possible, but... nah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Just delete this waste of html now!''' this is just stupid. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:05, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second!'''[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Typing Tutor Turbo-DECLINED!''' No no no no! Come on, a fez is a CAP! -- [[User:MegamanEXE|MegamanEXE]] 11:15 AM 9 Jun 2005 (EDT)

HRWiki talk:IRC channel

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 24 May 2005 00:16:47 GMT

Homeschool Winner: Thoroughly Confused!!!

== Site notice template ==
I created a template for the Monday scheduled chat site notice, [[:Template:scheduledchat]]:

<div style="text-align: center; padding: 0.5em; margin: 10px; border-top: 2px solid #ccc; border-bottom: 2px solid #ccc; background: #fff;">{{scheduledchat}}</div>

Any thoughts on how it is worded? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:19, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

:I like it! That looks pretty cool. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

== Time? ==
Does everyone agree Monday would be the best day of the week? I'm thinking of widening the time out to an hour earlier and an hour later (i.e. 2-6pm Pacific, etc). How does that sound? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:16, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, Monday is probably the best

== Brit and Aussie chats? ==

I don't want to leave our international friends out of the loop here. Do we have enough Brits and Aussies to set up more convenient scheduled chats for them as well? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:I haven't figured out how to word it concisely, but we should note that 5–9 pm ET is 21:00–1:00 UTC during Daylight Time, 22:00–2:00 UTC during standard time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

::I don't know whether there are many people overseas missing out, but the times scheduled at the moment is 7 AM to 11 AM on a Tuesday for Australian Eastern Standard Time (or 6.30 - 10.30 for Central Standard Time, or 5 AM to 9 AM for Western Standard Time). And daylight savings is plus one hour. I'm think we should just change "GMT" to "UTC", because GMT is one hour ahead of UTC in the summer. I'm going to create a little table with the time in different timezones. [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html And this thing is useful for figuring out times on different timezones]. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I realize Rainer put a lot of effort into the time zone table, but it's incorrect. It lists the times for New York as 4:00pm–8:00pm, with a note (way down at the bottom) that you should add an hour in the summer. But this is not true—If I read correctly what Joey wrote, then it will ''always'' be 5–9pm ET, regardless of whether the U.S. is currently observing Daylight Saving Time. Therefore, one could say that the schedule is based on ''current continental American time'', not Universal Time (UTC). In other words, the chat is from 21:00 to 1:00 when ''the United States'' is observing Daylight Time, 22:00 to 2:00 when it is not. Americentric, maybe, but true nevertheless. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

:Perhaps this creates extra work down the road, but we could scrap the notes at the bottom, correct the table for current conditions, and update the table each time daylight savings changes occur. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:36, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

::I did away with the coplicated table. (Sorry, Rainer.) In its place there's a link to the World Time Server, which will let users quickly and easily choose their time zone to figure the start time. The link is dynamic, so it should always give accurate information no matter what the time of year (with the small exception already noted on the page). I also simplified which U.S. time zones were listed on the page to just Eastern/Pacific, since it's less cluttered, and I think most people are used to that from TV anyway. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:01, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

== Thoroughly Confused!!! ==

I'm a Mac-user, and none of these IRC clients have a program for Mac. I'm sickeningly horrible with computers, so I have no clue how to get any of this up and running. Whenever I use the chat without a client, it says it can't connect! Can someone help me out here please? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 00:16, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Jalexster

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 17 May 2005 02:02:39 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki! */

==Welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki!==
Hello Jalexster, and welcome to the [[HRWiki:About|Homestar Runner Wiki]]! Hope you like it here, and stick around. Seriously, all of the [[Special:User List|Users]] are very nice and will help you out.

Here are some tips to help you get started:

:*Have a look at the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Index MediaWiki User's Guide].
:*If you need help, post a question on the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ|discussion page]] for the [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]].
:*Read the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] of the Wiki.
:*Remember that above all else, this is a collaborative knowledge-base dedicated to [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]].
:*Explore, and be sure to have fun!

[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 16:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC) -[[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Comittee]]
:(Feel free to delete the above comments, as it is ''your'' Talk page}

Hey! I'm just a fellow Homestar fan, and I just wanted to welcome you I guess. Well, WELCOME! Hope you enjoy these forums because I love them! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:02, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:do over

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 17 May 2005 02:00:54 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Possible Family Guy Reference */

==Spike==
Coach Zed is reminiscent of Snoopy's brother Spike.

Yeah, that's what I thought. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 21:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan: Ignorant? ==

I don't think Marzipan is as smart as was previously shown. She couldn't see through such an obvious disguise in the Easter Egg. It would seem Homestar and her are very alike... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno... she couldn't tell that [[Homestar Jr.]] wasn't really talking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I personally think that Marzipan only pictures herself as smarter than Homestar, in a similar fashion to how Strong Bad pictures himself as a cool ladies man. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm guessing Marzipan knew that it was The Cheat and just took advantage of the opportunity. Her and The Cheat have seemed to have had a thing for each other for a while anyway. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 01:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
** O_o If you say so... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== SCRAWNY ADDITIONS ==

Stop making scrawny additions like "running time: 4:23". I had the entire sbemail done and then it said "someone else has changed the page" and all that was changed was that you added "running time: 4:23"! Thanks a lot! --[[User:EMJS|''EMJS'']] [[User talk:EMJS|(Talk)]] 19:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

: It's just as well. I finished the draft anyway. And, as a note, your edit is at the bottom of the screen in an Edit Conflict and can be easily copy/pasted back. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NOTE: Edit conflict; what a great way to make my point!
:Uh, you know that your text is on the bottom, right? You can easily copy the text from there, as I just did. Also, running time is an important factor, not a scrawny addition. Sorry you got cheated out of a transcript, but it's happened to others too. (Btw, sign your comment) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== My first addition to the Wiki (or to any Wiki for that matter) ==

I added a link to the forum thread. That is the only change I made. I hope I didn't screw anything up. On my first try, I took too long and got the "Someone else has edited this page" alert, so I cut-to-clipboard the link I added, backed out, and clicked edit again, and as fast as possible, added the link and clicked save.
- Jalexster (sorry, didn't know about not signing my comment. I'll get the hang of everything soon.)
: Cool. We all have to start somewhere. However - and I'm not trying to be rude - but this might be better served on your [[User:Jalexter|user page]]. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Sorry. Should I delete my comment and move it? - Jalexster
::: I'll let it slide, but you can delete it if you want to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Family Guy Reference ==

Last night's new Family Guy episode featured Peter swallowing nickels to get the world record. He also made the jangling noise with his belly. Would this possibly be a reference to Family Guy or is it to vague?
--[[User:24.27.135.88|24.27.135.88]] 21:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a vote going on in STUFF about that right now. I certainly think it is, especially given that they've been known to make emails at the last minute and the timing seems too perfect to be a coincidence. From after I voted, 2 people (including myself) say yes and 1 person says no. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think its a reference, as the episode premiered on Sunday and the email premiered today...I don't think that TBC would have enough time to make such a reference, even if they cared. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

I noticed this too and was completely weirded out. The Brothers Chaps often pull all-nighters getting their emails out, and this one came later in the day. I'm almost positive it was a reference. And I know this shouldn't be in here, but that was a great Family Guy episode! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:do over

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 17 May 2005 01:56:38 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Marzipan: Ignorant? */

==Spike==
Coach Zed is reminiscent of Snoopy's brother Spike.

Yeah, that's what I thought. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 21:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan: Ignorant? ==

I don't think Marzipan is as smart as was previously shown. She couldn't see through such an obvious disguise in the Easter Egg. It would seem Homestar and her are very alike... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno... she couldn't tell that [[Homestar Jr.]] wasn't really talking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I personally think that Marzipan only pictures herself as smarter than Homestar, in a similar fashion to how Strong Bad pictures himself as a cool ladies man. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm guessing Marzipan knew that it was The Cheat and just took advantage of the opportunity. Her and The Cheat have seemed to have had a thing for each other for a while anyway. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 01:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== SCRAWNY ADDITIONS ==

Stop making scrawny additions like "running time: 4:23". I had the entire sbemail done and then it said "someone else has changed the page" and all that was changed was that you added "running time: 4:23"! Thanks a lot! --[[User:EMJS|''EMJS'']] [[User talk:EMJS|(Talk)]] 19:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

: It's just as well. I finished the draft anyway. And, as a note, your edit is at the bottom of the screen in an Edit Conflict and can be easily copy/pasted back. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NOTE: Edit conflict; what a great way to make my point!
:Uh, you know that your text is on the bottom, right? You can easily copy the text from there, as I just did. Also, running time is an important factor, not a scrawny addition. Sorry you got cheated out of a transcript, but it's happened to others too. (Btw, sign your comment) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== My first addition to the Wiki (or to any Wiki for that matter) ==

I added a link to the forum thread. That is the only change I made. I hope I didn't screw anything up. On my first try, I took too long and got the "Someone else has edited this page" alert, so I cut-to-clipboard the link I added, backed out, and clicked edit again, and as fast as possible, added the link and clicked save.
- Jalexster (sorry, didn't know about not signing my comment. I'll get the hang of everything soon.)
: Cool. We all have to start somewhere. However - and I'm not trying to be rude - but this might be better served on your [[User:Jalexter|user page]]. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Sorry. Should I delete my comment and move it? - Jalexster
::: I'll let it slide, but you can delete it if you want to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Family Guy Reference ==

Last night's new Family Guy episode featured Peter swallowing nickels to get the world record. He also made the jangling noise with his belly. Would this possibly be a reference to Family Guy or is it to vague?
--[[User:24.27.135.88|24.27.135.88]] 21:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a vote going on in STUFF about that right now. I certainly think it is, especially given that they've been known to make emails at the last minute and the timing seems too perfect to be a coincidence. From after I voted, 2 people (including myself) say yes and 1 person says no. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think its a reference, as the episode premiered on Sunday and the email premiered today...I don't think that TBC would have enough time to make such a reference, even if they cared. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

do over

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 17 May 2005 01:47:35 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:sbemail130.png|thumb|Oh, ''this'' is hilarious.]]
'''Strong Bad Email #130'''

Strong Bad is given the opportunity to redo old emails. Homestar and The Cheat switch places.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Cheat}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' May 16, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:23

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Bad Email! Makes money! Strong Bad Email! Gets paid! ''{loads the email}''

subject: Just wondering...
Dear Strongbad,
What would you do different, if you could do it all over
again?

Crapfully yours,
Richie Z
Can-A-Duh

''{Strong Bad says "Totally not gettin' old" in place of "Crapfully yours."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Wait, you're not related to Coach Z, are you, Richie? Or Coach Zed as you Canucks call him. Whoa. Coach Zed. That's way cooler. I'm gonna start calling him that too and maybe he won't suck so bad! Thanks, Richie! Your pal, SB ''{says as "Sed Bed"}'' ''{clears screen}'' Alright, what would I do different? Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over. It's no secret that one of my biggest stnanks was involving Ali and Ali's sister. If I had to do that over again, there's no way I'd mess it up. Here's just what I'd do:

''{The screen blurs as we cut to the broken Tandy 400, and the first email from [[sisters]] is onscreen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah! There's two of them! ''{places a candle next to the computer, clears the screen, and starts typing to romantic music}'' Well, Ali. There's ONE of me, and I'd like to cordially invite myself over to your place tonight for dinner and afterdinner mints. After afterdinner mints, you and your sister, Ali Jr. I'll call her, can fight to the death over me. Wait. ''{music stops}'' No. Hold on. No, no dying. ''{He only types one "no."}'' Um, ''{music restarts}'' we should have an egg drop soup eating contest. ''{the music comes to a scratching halt}'' Hang on. I can't remember what happens next. ''{stops typing}'' The Cheat!

''{Homestar Runner walks up on his knees. He's scribbled yellow marker on himself to look like The Cheat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Woo woo wee woo woo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, ''this'' is hilarious. Homestar, where's The Cheat?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Squeakicoo! I'm The Cheat!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, really. Then what—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{stands up}'' Surprise! Strong Bad, it's me! Homestar Runner! From school!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! I need The Cheat!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, okay. ''{gets down on his knees again}'' Meh.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's not what I meant. Uh, I guess you'll have to do. Ahem. All right, The Cheat. I need you to help me with my award-winning rewrite of the Ali and Ali's sister email. There's two of them!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Skooko wibbo wee! You should serenade them! I can play the drum!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, that sounds about right. Let's go practice!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumping up}'' I can play the drum!

''{Cut to The Field. Strong Bad sings into a microphone while Homestar bangs on a drum.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing... sorta}'' Don't you know I have a ''{feedback noise}'' BIG OL' RED HEAD! And a fat little body! And I never change my cloooothes! ''{high pitched, resulting in another feedback noise}'' No, I never change my cloooothes!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, Strong Bad? I think I'm falling for you. ''{little hearts bubble over Homestar}''

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' No, no, no, no, no. That is not right at all. Making Homestar dressed as The Cheat fall in love with me is ''not'' what I had in mind! Whatever. Who cares? I didn't want to go to Sally's house anydangway! ''{clears screen}'' Anyways, what else? I always felt a little bad about kicking The Cheat in email 23. Let's try that one again!

''{cut to the non-broken Tandy 400, with the email from [[little animal]] on it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...crapfully yours, Ashley and Anthony. ''{clears screen, types}'' Well, Ash and Ant, or Ley and Thony, or Shle and Ntho, or whatever you like to be called, if a little animal came up to me, I'd give him a pat on the head, a tuna-flavored treat, and some sage advice.

''{cut back to reveal Homestar - still in his The Cheat disguise - standing next to Strong Bad}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Meh, Strong Bad. Meh.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, ''no way!'' This does not count! You are ''not'' gettin' any fish cookies outta me! But I ''will'' give you that sage advice and and a, ahem, "pat" on the head. ''{starts hitting Homestar with his keyboard}'' DON'T! EVER! DRESS! UP! As The CHEAT! AGAIN! PARSLEY! SAGE! RoseMARY! And THYME!

''{Strong Mad walks up and glares menacingly at Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' DON'T HURT THE CHEAT!!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, big guy, that's not The Cheat. That's Homestar! From school!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Meedley mee! I'm The Cheat! I'm not from school! Moooooo! ''{Strong Mad smiles for a moment.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, The Cheat's not a cow, you know...

''{Strong Mad picks Strong Bad up by the leg and starts shaking him. Coins fall out of his pockets and Homestar eats them from off the ground.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' THE CHEAT IS SO A COW!!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Stop it! Put me down! You're making a terrible stnank!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' It makes me all jangly inside! ''{shakes around as the coins rattle inside him}''

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Alright, it's become abundantly clear that THIS is the email I should be redoing. Lappy, if you please. ''{The test disappears as the computer displays "Do Over!!!" with an accompanying explosion effect.}'' DO OVER!! ''{the original email comes back up, and Strong Bad types:}'' What would I do differently, Richie? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Well, except I might go back and taste out one of them Cheatcakes. ''{the scene cuts back to show the desk}'' Those things looked a-pretty good!

''{Homestar leans in, still in disguise and carrying a bag that says "MOLDY BREAD, GUYS."}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Meeeeeeh?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No! Wait! Nothing! Never! I regret nothing!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sadly leaving the screen}'' Meeeeeeh...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Phew!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. A few seconds later, Strong Bad pushes the back of his head a few times and coins come out of his mouth.}''

==Easter Eggs==

*Click on "Coach Zed" to see [[Coach Zed]], who looks like a mix between [[Coach Z]] and Snoopy's brother [[Wikipedia:Spike_%28Peanuts%29|Spike]].
*Click on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] at the end of the email to see The Cheat (disguised as Homestar Runner with kiss marks) and Marzipan together.
'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, can you pass the soy crisps?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{cheat noises like "Here you go!"}''

''{The Cheat hands Marzipan a bag labeled "Crisps, A-Soy!"}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The letter ''[[Wikipedia:Z|Z]]'' is pronounced /zed/ in [[Wikipedia:Canadian English|Canadian English]] and [[Wikipedia:Commonwealth English|Commonwealth English]].
*"[[Wikipedia:Canuck|Canuck]]" is a nickname for a person from Canada. The Canucks are also a famous hockey team in Canada, which is most likely where the nickname originated.

===Remarks===
* This would be the first email in which we see a type of [[DELETED]] on The Lappy.
*The Cheat with kiss marks on him may be a reference to [[The Cheat Theme Song]] video in which it claimed he was "making out with Marzipan".

===Goofs===
*When the scene shifts to the scene from "little animal", the Tandy's contrast buttons are broken, even though "little animal" took place before the Tandy broke. The entire computer looks slightly different, as well.

===Inside References===
*"Stnank" was a made-up animal for [[animal]] that wasn't used in the email, but was seen in the [[Sketchbook]] (2 Dec 2004).
*"Meedley mee" is a reference to the hot lixx played by Strong Bad in [[guitar]].
*Strong Bad wanting to taste a [[Cheatcakes|Cheatcake]] refers to [[stupid stuff]], in which The Cheat offers him a platter of said dessert.
*"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.


===Real-World References===
*In the Coach Zed egg Coach Zed was drawn to resemble Spike, Snoopy's brother from Charles M. Schultz's classic comic strip Peanuts.The Coach Zed drawing closely matches Schultz's Spike drawings; including the hat, collar, hatched feet, pose and even Schultz's later style which had more wobbly lines that came with his old age.
*[[Crisps, A-Soy!]] is a reference to [http://www.nabiscoworld.com/cookieguys/ Chips Ahoy!] brand cookies.
**Additionally, it could be a reference to the many soy products that have puns on the word "soy" for names, such as the "Soy Good" brand of soy milk.
*[http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_15313,00.html Egg Drop Soup] is a Chinese dish made from chicken broth and beaten eggs.
*Strong Bad's cry of "PARSLEY! SAGE! RoseMARY! And THYME!" is a reference to the lyrics of [[Wikipedia:Scarborough_Fair|"Scarborough Fair,"]] a 16th or 17th century English ballad popularized in the 1960s by folk-rock duo [[Wikipedia:Simon_and_Garfunkel|Simon and Garfunkel]].
*Homestar jangling change inside himself may be a reference to an all-new [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy| Family Guy] episode that was released the Sunday night before the email was, in which Peter swallowed a large amount of nickels and made a similar noise when he moved.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail130.html|watch "do over"]]
* [[HR:sbemail130.swf|view the Flash file for "do over"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=3322 Forum thread re: Strong Bad Email 130]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:Population: Tire

Homeschool Winner — Fri, 13 May 2005 01:58:45 GMT

Homeschool Winner: Kinda Cheating

Odd that the '4' in Compydore 64 hasn't got a hole in. Alarming attention to detail in this, though: the commands in the loading screen would load a game from disk on an actual Commie, and the "Population" bit of the logo is in the Commdore's infamous 2x1 resolution multicolour mode...

== Background sky ==

The sky in the background changes according to your system clock. Change it to 5:00 AM and you'll see orange sunrise. Change it to a midday time, and you'll see blue sky. Change it to night time and the sky will be dark.

== Kinda Cheating ==

If you pause the game, the tire will still bounce while the background remains the same. This gives you the opportunity to bounce the tire above a bird/ The Cheat/ Strong Sad/ a balloon, and quickly hit play. This will give you extra point and time to aim for your target. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 01:58, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner

Homeschool Winner — Thu, 12 May 2005 11:47:09 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Eyes... */

I'm a-seriously thinking that this page needs a new Homestar image soonish, especially since the page is currently leeching its image from another website. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 18:54, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Sooo.. upload a new one! -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:15, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

::Well if I had a good image handy, I would, but as it currently stands, I don't. I was giving a heads-up is all. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:58, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

:::For reference, this has been all fixered. Donno when, but it has. :) --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 16:25, 30 Oct 2004 (MST)

== is it just me ==

is it just me, or is Homestar shrinking? has anyone else noticed this?
:It's you. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
If anything, he's gotten taller. He has a bigger cap and longer legs than he used to. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

== Uh... ==
How come I don't see any mention or discussion about Homestar's arms ?!?!? It should say somewhere on his character page one of the following:
#His arms are invisible (the leading theory)
#He has no arms
#TBC left this ambiguous on purpose.

Acknowledged and added. I said that he has no arms (which seems clear enough to me, since otherwise he'd need sleeves) and left it at that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Invisible arms? that's insane. clearly he has a form of basic psycho-kinetic ability that allows him to move objects around without arms.
:It's always been my favorite theory that he has disembodied invisible hands that he controls remotely. But this is just wild speculation. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

:Personaly, I think it's pretty obvious he has no arms, and shouldn't be on here. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:I think he's telecanetic. Like you know, he imagines things to float, and he picks stuff up that way.

Armless in Santa Rosa, -[[User:CGNU_Grad]]
PS: No, really I have arms... Homestar doesn't.
:: Telekinetic. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:39, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)

:I think it's purposefully ambiguous, but I'm leaning towards invisible arms, myself.

I think he, unlike his girlfriend, has no hands at all. In the [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]], Marzipan slaps Homestar, clearly showing her invisible hand's print, but Homestar has no such evidence

==Fixing links==
I've fixed a TON of links to this page and I'm getting sick of it. Use the "What links here" link in the toolbox, that'll help you do it more quickly. Personally I think making the [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)]] page was an idiotic idea because of all the links that would need fixing, but oh well. - [[User:Forteblast|Forteblast]]

:I think it would have been much easier to disambig at the top of the page, like we do for [[pom pom]]/[[Pom Pom]] and [[interview]]/[[The Interview]]. In fact, taking a look at all those links, I think this would be a much better option. I know we have to fix Homsar (character)/homsar (email) and Marzipan (character)/marzipan (email) like we did the Pom Pom pages too.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:42, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I fixed Homsar (character)/homsar (email) (now [[Homsar]]/[[homsar]]) and Marzipan (character)/marzipan (email) (now [[Marzipan]]/[[marzipan]]). Now what to do with this page?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:15, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::Okay, I'm totally thinking that we can move [[Homestar Runner (character)]] back to [[Homestar Runner]] and then only fix the "[[Homestar Runner]]" links that need redirecting to [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)]]. And we'd of course add a disambig note at the top of both pages.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Since nothing should intentionally link to a redirect page, all the Marzipan and Homsar links need to be switch back to their appropriate pages. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 14:44, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Agreed. And the Homestar Runner (character) page has been fixed as I previously noted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:47, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Blinking ==

Ever since I found a pause button for Flash I've noticed that, in most cartoons, Homestar blinks even when the cartoon is paused. I think it may have something to do with the "template" or whatever they use for Homestar in each cartoon, but since I don't know anything about the nuts and bolts of Flash (Can't you tell?), I don't know how to present this as interesting yet factual insight into the behind-the-scenes process. Any ideas? -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:04, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

:[[HRWiki:FAQ]], number three. It's a bit of Flash called a sprite, I believe. It's a thing that keeps happening indefinitely. Marzipan does the same thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Thanks. If it's in the FAQ, it's just as well that I didn't attempt a poorly-thought-out fun fact on the subject. =) -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 23:31, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

__NOTOC__

== Eyes... ==

Are two theories on Homestar's eyes really needed, let alone even one? I mean, four eyes? Come on. He's a cartoon character, not some physics-defying robot or something.
:Actually, when I first realized how strange his eyes were, I thought he probably had four eyes. But now I've found evidence for both theories.

But with that logic, wouldn't it mean that Homestar ''also'' has two stars on his shirt? Chew on that...
:Yes, he would. But that's not nearly as weird as the four eyes part. But I'm not saying its true in a cartoon sense, just in a logical sense. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 11:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well ''I'm'' saying that the four eyes theory is just plain silly and on the verge of over-analysis. Common sense should just give us two eyes, since it's not even something that's as ambiguous as the arms issue.

Why hasn't the figurine cleared this all up. He's got two eyes -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 11:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

== Homestar as the King of Town? ==

Get this: If The King of Town is Marzipan's father as stated in the Old Characters Page, that would make her the princess. If the King dies, she will become queen, and if her relationship with Homestar works its way up to marriage, Homestar will be the new King of Town! Weird, huh? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 05:39, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:I suppose... but since it's questionable that the KoT has any real power, and since TBC have said in interviews that the idea that the KoT is Marzipan's father was long ago scrapped, this is kind of a moot point. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 07:11, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Even if that did happen, Homestar would merely be the Prince of Town. Royal tradition states that "king" is superior to "queen", but the heir to the throne must be superior to the spouse. If the heir is a woman, her husband becomes the prince, not the king.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 13:19, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== More than two probl....I mean, arms?! ==

I've noticed in several of the emails, H*R seems to be manipulating more than two things at once. Either he has extremely nimble 'fingers' or he has three arms. Examples of what I'm taking about:

In the email "The Show", and Main Page 19, he is shown holding the microphone while shuffling cards.
In the email "Time Capsule, he's holding his "time box", its lid, and the gross old wig at the same time.

I'm sure there are other references.
All the 'armless' characters seem to be able to move things anyway. I refer to this as the "Vegetale effect" in which the characters without arms possess a limited telekinetic power that allows them to "grab" other objects. Am I just reading too deep into this? --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

*Yes --[[User:unknown user|unknown user]]

Talk:garage sale

Homeschool Winner — Mon, 02 May 2005 11:42:41 GMT

Homeschool Winner: Coach Z's Motherhood

Is Coach Z really a mother? He was after all buying things for babies, but other than that, I see no evidence leading me to believe this. Does anyone else have anything? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 11:42, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner

Homeschool Winner — Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:39:17 GMT

Homeschool Winner: Homestar as the King of Town?

I'm a-seriously thinking that this page needs a new Homestar image soonish, especially since the page is currently leeching its image from another website. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 18:54, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Sooo.. upload a new one! -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:15, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

::Well if I had a good image handy, I would, but as it currently stands, I don't. I was giving a heads-up is all. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:58, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

:::For reference, this has been all fixered. Donno when, but it has. :) --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 16:25, 30 Oct 2004 (MST)

== is it just me ==

is it just me, or is Homestar shrinking? has anyone else noticed this?
:It's you. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Uh... ==
How come I don't see any mention or discussion about Homestar's arms ?!?!? It should say somewhere on his character page one of the following:
#His arms are invisible (the leading theory)
#He has no arms
#TBC left this ambiguous on purpose.

Acknowledged and added. I said that he has no arms (which seems clear enough to me, since otherwise he'd need sleeves) and left it at that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Invisible arms? that's insane. clearly he has a form of basic psycho-kinetic ability that allows him to move objects around without arms.
:It's always been my favorite theory that he has disembodied invisible hands that he controls remotely. But this is just wild speculation. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

:Personaly, I think it's pretty obvious he has no arms, and shouldn't be on here. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:I think he's telecanetic. Like you know, he imagines things to float, and he picks stuff up that way.

Armless in Santa Rosa, -[[User:CGNU_Grad]]
PS: No, really I have arms... Homestar doesn't.
:: Telekinetic. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:39, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)

:I think it's purposefully ambiguous, but I'm leaning towards invisible arms, myself.

I think he, unlike his girlfriend, has no hands at all. In the [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]], Marzipan slaps Homestar, clearly showing her invisible hand's print, but Homestar has no such evidence

==Fixing links==
I've fixed a TON of links to this page and I'm getting sick of it. Use the "What links here" link in the toolbox, that'll help you do it more quickly. Personally I think making the [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)]] page was an idiotic idea because of all the links that would need fixing, but oh well. - [[User:Forteblast|Forteblast]]

:I think it would have been much easier to disambig at the top of the page, like we do for [[pom pom]]/[[Pom Pom]] and [[interview]]/[[The Interview]]. In fact, taking a look at all those links, I think this would be a much better option. I know we have to fix Homsar (character)/homsar (email) and Marzipan (character)/marzipan (email) like we did the Pom Pom pages too.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:42, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I fixed Homsar (character)/homsar (email) (now [[Homsar]]/[[homsar]]) and Marzipan (character)/marzipan (email) (now [[Marzipan]]/[[marzipan]]). Now what to do with this page?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:15, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::Okay, I'm totally thinking that we can move [[Homestar Runner (character)]] back to [[Homestar Runner]] and then only fix the "[[Homestar Runner]]" links that need redirecting to [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)]]. And we'd of course add a disambig note at the top of both pages.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Since nothing should intentionally link to a redirect page, all the Marzipan and Homsar links need to be switch back to their appropriate pages. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 14:44, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Agreed. And the Homestar Runner (character) page has been fixed as I previously noted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:47, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Blinking ==

Ever since I found a pause button for Flash I've noticed that, in most cartoons, Homestar blinks even when the cartoon is paused. I think it may have something to do with the "template" or whatever they use for Homestar in each cartoon, but since I don't know anything about the nuts and bolts of Flash (Can't you tell?), I don't know how to present this as interesting yet factual insight into the behind-the-scenes process. Any ideas? -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:04, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

:[[HRWiki:FAQ]], number three. It's a bit of Flash called a sprite, I believe. It's a thing that keeps happening indefinitely. Marzipan does the same thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Thanks. If it's in the FAQ, it's just as well that I didn't attempt a poorly-thought-out fun fact on the subject. =) -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 23:31, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

__NOTOC__

== Eyes... ==

Are two theories on Homestar's eyes really needed, let alone even one? I mean, four eyes? Come on. He's a cartoon character, not some physics-defying robot or something.
:Actually, when I first realized how strange his eyes were, I thought he probably had four eyes. But now I've found evidence for both theories.

But with that logic, wouldn't it mean that Homestar ''also'' has two stars on his shirt? Chew on that...
:Yes, he would. But that's not nearly as weird as the four eyes part. But I'm not saying its true in a cartoon sense, just in a logical sense. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 11:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well ''I'm'' saying that the four eyes theory is just plain silly and on the verge of over-analysis. Common sense should just give us two eyes, since it's not even something that's as ambiguous as the arms issue.

Get this: If The King of Town is Marzipan's father as stated in the Old Characters Page, that would make her the princess. If the King dies, she will become queen, and if her relationship with Homestar works its way up to marriage, Homestar will be the new King of Town! Weird, huh? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 05:38, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Homestar as the King of Town? ==

Get this: If The King of Town is Marzipan's father as stated in the Old Characters Page, that would make her the princess. If the King dies, she will become queen, and if her relationship with Homestar works its way up to marriage, Homestar will be the new King of Town! Weird, huh? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 05:39, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner

Homeschool Winner — Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:38:26 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

I'm a-seriously thinking that this page needs a new Homestar image soonish, especially since the page is currently leeching its image from another website. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 18:54, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Sooo.. upload a new one! -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:15, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

::Well if I had a good image handy, I would, but as it currently stands, I don't. I was giving a heads-up is all. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:58, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

:::For reference, this has been all fixered. Donno when, but it has. :) --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 16:25, 30 Oct 2004 (MST)

== is it just me ==

is it just me, or is Homestar shrinking? has anyone else noticed this?
:It's you. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Uh... ==
How come I don't see any mention or discussion about Homestar's arms ?!?!? It should say somewhere on his character page one of the following:
#His arms are invisible (the leading theory)
#He has no arms
#TBC left this ambiguous on purpose.

Acknowledged and added. I said that he has no arms (which seems clear enough to me, since otherwise he'd need sleeves) and left it at that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Invisible arms? that's insane. clearly he has a form of basic psycho-kinetic ability that allows him to move objects around without arms.
:It's always been my favorite theory that he has disembodied invisible hands that he controls remotely. But this is just wild speculation. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

:Personaly, I think it's pretty obvious he has no arms, and shouldn't be on here. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:I think he's telecanetic. Like you know, he imagines things to float, and he picks stuff up that way.

Armless in Santa Rosa, -[[User:CGNU_Grad]]
PS: No, really I have arms... Homestar doesn't.
:: Telekinetic. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:39, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)

:I think it's purposefully ambiguous, but I'm leaning towards invisible arms, myself.

I think he, unlike his girlfriend, has no hands at all. In the [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]], Marzipan slaps Homestar, clearly showing her invisible hand's print, but Homestar has no such evidence

==Fixing links==
I've fixed a TON of links to this page and I'm getting sick of it. Use the "What links here" link in the toolbox, that'll help you do it more quickly. Personally I think making the [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)]] page was an idiotic idea because of all the links that would need fixing, but oh well. - [[User:Forteblast|Forteblast]]

:I think it would have been much easier to disambig at the top of the page, like we do for [[pom pom]]/[[Pom Pom]] and [[interview]]/[[The Interview]]. In fact, taking a look at all those links, I think this would be a much better option. I know we have to fix Homsar (character)/homsar (email) and Marzipan (character)/marzipan (email) like we did the Pom Pom pages too.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:42, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I fixed Homsar (character)/homsar (email) (now [[Homsar]]/[[homsar]]) and Marzipan (character)/marzipan (email) (now [[Marzipan]]/[[marzipan]]). Now what to do with this page?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:15, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::Okay, I'm totally thinking that we can move [[Homestar Runner (character)]] back to [[Homestar Runner]] and then only fix the "[[Homestar Runner]]" links that need redirecting to [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)]]. And we'd of course add a disambig note at the top of both pages.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Since nothing should intentionally link to a redirect page, all the Marzipan and Homsar links need to be switch back to their appropriate pages. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 14:44, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Agreed. And the Homestar Runner (character) page has been fixed as I previously noted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:47, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Blinking ==

Ever since I found a pause button for Flash I've noticed that, in most cartoons, Homestar blinks even when the cartoon is paused. I think it may have something to do with the "template" or whatever they use for Homestar in each cartoon, but since I don't know anything about the nuts and bolts of Flash (Can't you tell?), I don't know how to present this as interesting yet factual insight into the behind-the-scenes process. Any ideas? -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:04, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

:[[HRWiki:FAQ]], number three. It's a bit of Flash called a sprite, I believe. It's a thing that keeps happening indefinitely. Marzipan does the same thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Thanks. If it's in the FAQ, it's just as well that I didn't attempt a poorly-thought-out fun fact on the subject. =) -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 23:31, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

__NOTOC__

== Eyes... ==

Are two theories on Homestar's eyes really needed, let alone even one? I mean, four eyes? Come on. He's a cartoon character, not some physics-defying robot or something.
:Actually, when I first realized how strange his eyes were, I thought he probably had four eyes. But now I've found evidence for both theories.

But with that logic, wouldn't it mean that Homestar ''also'' has two stars on his shirt? Chew on that...
:Yes, he would. But that's not nearly as weird as the four eyes part. But I'm not saying its true in a cartoon sense, just in a logical sense. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 11:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well ''I'm'' saying that the four eyes theory is just plain silly and on the verge of over-analysis. Common sense should just give us two eyes, since it's not even something that's as ambiguous as the arms issue.

Get this: If The King of Town is Marzipan's father as stated in the Old Characters Page, that would make her the princess. If the King dies, she will become queen, and if her relationship with Homestar works its way up to marriage, Homestar will be the new King of Town! Weird, huh? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 05:38, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

Homeschool Winner — Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:49:01 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Update Ahoy! */

==Fixing spelling==
I fixed a couple of spelling errors: "parodys" > "parodies", and changed "cinema" to "cinematic". Just so you guys know I wasn't fixing the transcripted stuff. - MHG

== Where did it go? ==
It is gone... it dissapeared...

What??

== Can I be the first to say "COOL!" ==

TBC have really done it this time! Great music, title screen, but now on the Fanstuf wiki we need to call him 1-up, not Kidstar. sigh... - [[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]]

==Like Zero Wing in 2 Ways==
This game reminds me of Zero Wing in two ways.
1. Translating errors (fake in this game, obviously)
2. Long levels with no check points. I can't get past the first level in either game. Every time you die, no matter how far you are in the level, you go back to the beginning. And you can't save in the middle either. --[[User:152.163.101.8|152.163.101.8]] 14:59, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Actually, in Zerowing when you die, it'll bring you to a midpoint, if you've gotten that far. I've beaten the entire game so I should know. =P --nickshorts

==Man, this is ''hard''!==
Holy Crap! This game is so hard (to me) it blows my mind! Tough jumps, no checkpoints, the works! I can't even beat level 1.2! Arrrrgh! ...Whew. Glad I got that outta my system. On a lighter note, this is a great game, if not a bit hard. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*Don't feel bad, AceKirby. I can't even get past level 1.1! [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**Whew, that makes me feel better man. I needed some serious clown care there for a second. But I ''did'' end up beating the game, which was great. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Difficultly fun==
This game is hard, but I found it fun. I guess I'm good a video games or something, because although I was challenged, I beat the whole game in under an hour. Can't wait for more levels. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Indeed... more levels seem an inevitability (why else do they have scroll buttons in the "CONTINUTE" menu?). As for the difficulty... well, let's just say it reflects the ''Mega Man'' series in more ways than one. ;) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::The Brothers Chaps captured the oldschool Mega Man feel better than I would have expected. I hope they don't get sued by Capcom! [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:51, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::I dunno...the continute menu scroll buttons could be there just to mislead you. If so, I wouldn't be surprised. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

==BEAT THAT!==
I beat the whole game (Stage 1.1 to 3.3) in 19 minutes without a single game over. Can anyone beat that? (I did lose two lives though) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

I did, and I only lost one life. I think it took me about 23 minutes, though.[[User:Ekul|The Marauding Maniac]]

== Am I the only one... ==

...who can't get the plain .SWF working? I can play the game (beat it not too long ago, good game, can't wait for the expansion packs-of-sorts), but only using the standard link. I can't play it online or offline using just the .SWF file. Firefox stays perpetually on "Load it up". IE6 gets farther than that, as it goes to a black screen after that and never gets out. So... anyone else? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:26, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I couldn't get the .swf file loading on my computer. It would just stay a blank black screen. The regular game worked fine, though. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:15, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
It's working for me in IE, but in Firefox it just stays on the loading screen. edit: actually, offline it doesn't work on either. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 11:31, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Is the game meant to...==
Drop you into a giant hole at the beginning of Level 1.1? The game loads up, but as soon as I click play game, I get dropped into a pit until I die 3 times. Any ideas, or is it whatever glitched up [[virus]] for me? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:36, 22 Mar 2005
:I hear on Fark that it depends on your browser. Try switching to another. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::This happened to me too, while running IE. I tried Mozilla and it worked. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Thank you, but annoyingly enough, I can't install any alternative browser. My administrator believes that they let in viruses. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:52, 22 Mar 2005
:::I had the same problem, except for me the bug happened in Opera but it worked in IE. --JZ
:Found the problem (for me at least), in Version 1.1, there's a little notice saying "Flash 7 Required". I only have Flash 6. I wonder why TBC didn't go for the full screen message, a la [[Duck Guardian]]. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 06:30, 22 Mar 2005
::Well, that's probably what your problem is indeed... but specifically, I'm guessing the game isn't loading the XML files from the leveldata folder, hence nothing happens. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:35, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Music==
If anyone could find the game's music files, I'd be much obliged. That was my favorite part. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:47, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Same here, I was listening to it whilst working on assignments, but I found that if you open up the game and start, leave it for about half an hour without doing anything, the music just stops and doesn't come back unless you lose a life. [[User:M.J|M.J]]

The first level's music is top-notch if extremely Sonic. Not as good as Duck Guardian, mind.

:Actually, it strikes me as much more like - surprise! - ''Mega Man'' tunes, particularly the opening stage of ''MMVII''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:32, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Yeah... Both of those tunes are awesome, and I was listening to a MM7 midi file right before I played it. I thought, "Hey, that's MM music!" --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:35, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm pretty sure online Flash games don't have "music files" It's been my experience that Flash usually packs all its resources (sound, bmps) into the final SWF.
*Oh, well. Maybe they'll add it to [http://videlectrix.com/videlectrix_music.html Videlectrix Music] soon. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 11:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
::[http://www.vgmusic.com/new-files/ VGMusic] has some MIDIs in their New Files section, FYI. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:06, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*Holy crap, they added to Videlectrix.

== NYU Demo ==

At the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] they showed an awesome demo to this, and as I recall, I think the sporks from 2.2 were originally in 1.1 and 1.2. The first two levels that TBC made were 1.1 and 3.1.--[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 21:28, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== JoyToKey (This is a little OT) ==

Anyone with a joypad needs to download [http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA016823/joytokey/english.html JoyToKey]. It's especially important for this game; really adds to the feel. Total, man. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:00, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Capsules ==

*The health-restoring pills are a reference to the Strong Bad E-Mail time capsule.
** They are also a reference to the Scrolling Shooter Games Menu, where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.

Tons of games have capsules and it's doubtful this is an inside reference. Didn't the original Megaman hae capsules? Granted they looked different, but I don't think this is a reference to [[time capsule]], and I think it's a coincidence that the games menu also has capsules. What's next, someone chimes in with "It may be a reference to Dr. Mario"? Sorry, I'm over-analytical so I'll keep it since others may not agree with me on this. If anyone else does though, maybe we should take this to [[STUFF]]. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:07, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

*** The NES Mega Man games had no such things... I don't think it's a Dr. Mario reference either, considering the Doc isn't too "retro". I think it's more likely a "time capsule" reference...

:Although I'm not sure about the games menu reference anymore, I do believe it's a reference to time capsule because:
*They are identical looking
*In time capsule, the pill gave him an energy boost.

== About the Gas stoves... ==

What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. Any oil lamps in Free Country? well, I just thought it necessary to comment. Thanks for reading it.

--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 00:43, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== CONTINUTE? ==

Early on I added a comment about the CONTINUTE item in the main menu being misspelled possibly intentionally, but it was removed in the revision http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6&diff=56256&oldid=56255. This still exists in Version 1.1. I guess this item was removed because it was too obvious, given that the poor translation is already specified? Just wondering.

== this and peasant's quest. ==

in peasant's quest, it seems the cookies expire after you close your browser window.

is there a way to tweak the cookie to not die, or is it supposed to keep active and i just need to adjust cookie settings?

*Must be your browser settings. Works fine for me. --JZ

== Continute not working? ==

I got all the way to level 2.2 before I got a Game Over, but the continute button wouldn't work. Is there a problem wth my browser, or maybe a new version of Flash Player I need to get?

I've had the same problem. Anyone know why the continue function isn't working?

"Continue" remains greyed-out for me as well. My browser's set to accept all cookies from homestarrunner.com, and I can't see anything in my Flash prefs about denying local storage (it's set to allow homestarrunner.com to store 100K of data currently). For reference, I'm running this on Linux, Mozilla 1.7.5, and Flash 7.0.25. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 14:05, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

* Ah, seems that v1.3 has fixed the problems. My system is now allowing me to access the continue menu. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 12:52, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

' Happened to me too. My guess is the versoin change from 1.0 to 1.1 --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 16:14, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

Here's a key point: The continute button only becomes available after you've beaten the game regularly. That had me thrown off for a while...until I beat it!

*Seems to be fixed in v1.3.
** Indeed it does. Works for me now. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 12:52, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Glitch ==

[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|220px|Stinkoman stand on air!]]
I found a little glitch in the game, just wanted to share :)
It's in Level 1.1, you'll probably recognize the spot. I'm guessing the box for the ledge on the right side passes through the wall.
*Looks like it. I've noticed that before. Looks pretty funny actually.
*Well, its because stinkoman is actually standing on the land on the other side because on these games you can stand with one pixel of the shoe on the land and the rest in the air. Try it on other lands.

*Hey, the game is now apparently v1.2 I think this glitch has been fixed.
::Nope, it's still there. I don't think they'll bother fixing it, it doesn't make any real difference IMO.
*This is so stupid! I got all the way to level 2.2, and got stuck in that place you can't escape (I never died out), so I refreshed the page, and I looked at the continue button, only to find it didn't work! I am so fed up with this! Someone better find some way to fix this, 'cause I'm not playiong through all that again! Stinkoman moves way too slow to have to go through that excruciatingly tempoed sidescrolling nightmare again! Can someone please fix this, or find a solution, that doesn't make you have to play the game all over again? Much thanks in advance.
**You must have a slow computer, no name. The game isn't really as annoying on fast ones, where it goes smooth. Anyway, I have no idea what place you are talking about. I don't know any traps in level 2.2. (Maybe you should look at the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough|walkthrough]]?)--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:07, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
** I'd fix it, but I don't have the flash or the website, soooo... That's weird

== Stinkomanual? ==

Am I the only one who can't find this, whatever it is?--[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]

* It should be a link right under the controls button at the start menu?

== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

==Filmography?==
I've been wondering, does this count as an appearance in Stinkoman Filmography, or do games not count? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 20:57, 23 Mar 2005 (GMT)
*On this site, I'm sure there'd be no way to stop people from saying so. However; I in all due respects, say if it's a FILMography, it's for FILMS. Go see if there's some kind of GAME-ograpgy if you want to count that!
**IMDB lists video games in filmographies. --JZ

== Save file ==

Does anyone know the name of the file which holds the save data for the game? I have downloaded all the other necessary files but I want to have a save file in there so I don't have to play through all the levels again (Yes, I have beaten the first 3.)

On XP it's the C:\Documents and Settings\<USERNAME>\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\<randomID>\www.homestarrunner.com\stinkogame\stinkogame.swf\stinkoman.sol file.
I haven't checked, but I imagine on 9x/ME it's in the C:\Windows\Application Data\... folder.
No idea on other OSes. [[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

== <s>Level 3.1</s> Level 3.2 -- HOW!? ==

How do you beat level 3.1? Do you have to collect some fixed amount of gold or wait a certan amount of time? I can't beat it!
:Collect 20 pieces of gold from the rain drops. I believe it tells you that when you start the level. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:22, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Oops, I didn't read that. Well I got to 3.2, but now I can't get more than 4. Every freakin' piece of bread is surrounded by like 50 other things. Plus, there's one piece every like 50 screens.
:::You have to collect 10 pieces of bread, and each bad item deletes a bread you got. That's really all there is to it. A good idea is to just avoid everything until you reach a bread all by itself. It's not really as hard as you say. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:08, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Proofs of more levels ==

Is anyone else really annoyed by all the fun facts in the "Remarks" section that say "This is shown in the game so it means there will be more levels"? I'm not going to get RID of them, because they are true, but it seems pretty obvious by the MORE LEVELS SOON screen that there will be more levels. We don't need any other worthless proof. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 12:22, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Do you have to beat the game to get that screen? 'Cause many haven't beat'd it yet.
:Yes, but it's in the section anyway. Or at least it should be. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 12:54, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Low Quality...! ==

Hey...I just noticed something...the game is initially set to low quality. If you make it better, it just looks more blurry. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 18:46, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yeah, they always make the games with a classic look. Sometimes loads faster that way. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Is no good for you ==

I think the 'Don't drink, is no good for you' is a reference Tuco's line in 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly'.
*I think more likely it's a reference to the "don't do drugs" messages a lot of arcade games used to have (still have?)--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 18:35, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yep, they still have them. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 11:24, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Doesn't work on OS X? ==

I simply cannot get the game to work here on OS X. I've tried different browsers, HTML and SWF, visiting mirror sites -- every time the same thing happens: when I click new game and get past the little startup movie to the part where the character appears on the screen, I simply cannot get Stinkoman to move. None of the keys seem to work. He just stays there and waits. Any ideas? The keyboard works in all the other games. [[User:AaronSw|AaronSw]] 23:55, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

:[http://macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash Do you have the latest version of flash?] --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

::Yes.

== Add an article on custom levels? ==

I think we should have an article on it, and provide external links to all levels people have made. Who thinks this is a good idea? -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:33, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I think that's what Fanstuff's for. Not that I know for sure, I've only messed with the main Wiki. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:05, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Yes, that is what Fanstuff wiki is for. That's the whole reason it was created- fan material. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:But an article about level editing might be okay. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Current Level Editing Status ==

Has anyone made anymore headway into level editing? I've got the whole thing working locally, and can even edit the XML files to make simple changes, however I do not have the time nor experience to make a level editor.

Additionally, in the XML files, the <D> field seems to just be an object count, but what could <sT> be?

I think some serious inspection of the SWF file and the code is needed before we can do full-featured levels. especially for cT types.

Also trying to figure out how to launch the level editor - I see the entire class. Is there a Flash debugger where I can call a function/object at will?

:I just finished a level editor, after all kind'sa studying that <sT> stuff. I'll try to get it out soon. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Fading Blue Boxes ==
I didn't want to post this in the article, but I don't think Flash would generate those fading blue boxes. I um, really don't see how. Besides, how would there be such oddly shaped boxes? I thought it was just a Nintendo thingy.

It was a reference to Nintendo games that left those artifacts. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|ackicantthinkofaname]]

== Article on custom levels ==
I made one where you can put the code for your custom level [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|here]] on the fanstuff wiki. Should I put a link to it on the Stinkoman 20X6 page? --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 16:29, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
:I don't think so as of yet. If levels are added and stuff, and a tutorial on how to do make a level, then sure. But that's my opinion. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:46, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== When you see a boss... ==

When a boss comes up on the screen, some voice shouts something. Do you know it says?

Catsmeat

Something on the lines of "Are you asking for a challenge?" You could have found that out on the walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:49, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

Yeah.. That's Stinkoman.

== Tonberry reference? ==

In the manual entry for "pooru-pooru", it states, "Land on one and it's DOINK for you!"
I swear this is a reference to Tonberrys from the Final Fantasy series. Can anyone confirm this?
--Bdragon

== Declined Fun Facts ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Update Ahoy!==
Stinkoman 20X6 has been taken off the H*R website. TBC are probably updating it. I can just smell new levels! -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:50, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* I sure as heck hope they are! I was going to try to play it (I haven't in a while) but it was gone! --MessedRocker (not registered)

:Me too! I'm almost certain that it's an update on the game. I '''CAN'T WAIT!''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:12, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* Well, I think we should all join hands and pray with all our hearts that [[Trogador]] is finally publicly revealed! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 11:39, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Have you played it? Is he in there? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

* I doubt it. Trogador page:"According to TBC, he is likely never going to be used on the site." [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Uh, uh, uh! You stopped a little short there, pal. The full sentence is "According to TBC, he is likely never going to be used on the site, but they may yet change their minds." I think that they ''might'' put him in there as a boss, but that's just me. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:58, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* The game has been updated with at least one new level. --[[User:63.202.45.187|63.202.45.187]] 22:20, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* A beatable, npcTrogdor? Cool! I just whipped 4.3. 10 euros says they'll never rescue Pan-Pan. (Who kidnapped him anyways???)
::I'm predicting a Stinkly Man appearance soon. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* Well, there appears to be no Trogador throughout the new level, but we'll see. When I heard them say that they probably wouldn't use him at the NYU thing, they seemed pretty unsure, so just pray. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:49, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:39:28 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Update Ahoy! */

==Fixing spelling==
I fixed a couple of spelling errors: "parodys" > "parodies", and changed "cinema" to "cinematic". Just so you guys know I wasn't fixing the transcripted stuff. - MHG

== Where did it go? ==
It is gone... it dissapeared...

What??

== Can I be the first to say "COOL!" ==

TBC have really done it this time! Great music, title screen, but now on the Fanstuf wiki we need to call him 1-up, not Kidstar. sigh... - [[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]]

==Like Zero Wing in 2 Ways==
This game reminds me of Zero Wing in two ways.
1. Translating errors (fake in this game, obviously)
2. Long levels with no check points. I can't get past the first level in either game. Every time you die, no matter how far you are in the level, you go back to the beginning. And you can't save in the middle either. --[[User:152.163.101.8|152.163.101.8]] 14:59, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Actually, in Zerowing when you die, it'll bring you to a midpoint, if you've gotten that far. I've beaten the entire game so I should know. =P --nickshorts

==Man, this is ''hard''!==
Holy Crap! This game is so hard (to me) it blows my mind! Tough jumps, no checkpoints, the works! I can't even beat level 1.2! Arrrrgh! ...Whew. Glad I got that outta my system. On a lighter note, this is a great game, if not a bit hard. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*Don't feel bad, AceKirby. I can't even get past level 1.1! [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

==Difficultly fun==
This game is hard, but I found it fun. I guess I'm good a video games or something, because although I was challenged, I beat the whole game in under an hour. Can't wait for more levels. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Indeed... more levels seem an inevitability (why else do they have scroll buttons in the "CONTINUTE" menu?). As for the difficulty... well, let's just say it reflects the ''Mega Man'' series in more ways than one. ;) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::The Brothers Chaps captured the oldschool Mega Man feel better than I would have expected. I hope they don't get sued by Capcom! [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:51, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::I dunno...the continute menu scroll buttons could be there just to mislead you. If so, I wouldn't be surprised. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

==BEAT THAT!==
I beat the whole game (Stage 1.1 to 3.3) in 19 minutes without a single game over. Can anyone beat that? (I did lose two lives though) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

I did, and I only lost one life. I think it took me about 23 minutes, though.[[User:Ekul|The Marauding Maniac]]

== Am I the only one... ==

...who can't get the plain .SWF working? I can play the game (beat it not too long ago, good game, can't wait for the expansion packs-of-sorts), but only using the standard link. I can't play it online or offline using just the .SWF file. Firefox stays perpetually on "Load it up". IE6 gets farther than that, as it goes to a black screen after that and never gets out. So... anyone else? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:26, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I couldn't get the .swf file loading on my computer. It would just stay a blank black screen. The regular game worked fine, though. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:15, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
It's working for me in IE, but in Firefox it just stays on the loading screen. edit: actually, offline it doesn't work on either. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 11:31, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Is the game meant to...==
Drop you into a giant hole at the beginning of Level 1.1? The game loads up, but as soon as I click play game, I get dropped into a pit until I die 3 times. Any ideas, or is it whatever glitched up [[virus]] for me? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:36, 22 Mar 2005
:I hear on Fark that it depends on your browser. Try switching to another. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::This happened to me too, while running IE. I tried Mozilla and it worked. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Thank you, but annoyingly enough, I can't install any alternative browser. My administrator believes that they let in viruses. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:52, 22 Mar 2005
:::I had the same problem, except for me the bug happened in Opera but it worked in IE. --JZ
:Found the problem (for me at least), in Version 1.1, there's a little notice saying "Flash 7 Required". I only have Flash 6. I wonder why TBC didn't go for the full screen message, a la [[Duck Guardian]]. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 06:30, 22 Mar 2005
::Well, that's probably what your problem is indeed... but specifically, I'm guessing the game isn't loading the XML files from the leveldata folder, hence nothing happens. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:35, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Music==
If anyone could find the game's music files, I'd be much obliged. That was my favorite part. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:47, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Same here, I was listening to it whilst working on assignments, but I found that if you open up the game and start, leave it for about half an hour without doing anything, the music just stops and doesn't come back unless you lose a life. [[User:M.J|M.J]]

The first level's music is top-notch if extremely Sonic. Not as good as Duck Guardian, mind.

:Actually, it strikes me as much more like - surprise! - ''Mega Man'' tunes, particularly the opening stage of ''MMVII''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:32, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Yeah... Both of those tunes are awesome, and I was listening to a MM7 midi file right before I played it. I thought, "Hey, that's MM music!" --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:35, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm pretty sure online Flash games don't have "music files" It's been my experience that Flash usually packs all its resources (sound, bmps) into the final SWF.
*Oh, well. Maybe they'll add it to [http://videlectrix.com/videlectrix_music.html Videlectrix Music] soon. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 11:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
::[http://www.vgmusic.com/new-files/ VGMusic] has some MIDIs in their New Files section, FYI. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:06, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*Holy crap, they added to Videlectrix.

== NYU Demo ==

At the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] they showed an awesome demo to this, and as I recall, I think the sporks from 2.2 were originally in 1.1 and 1.2. The first two levels that TBC made were 1.1 and 3.1.--[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 21:28, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== JoyToKey (This is a little OT) ==

Anyone with a joypad needs to download [http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA016823/joytokey/english.html JoyToKey]. It's especially important for this game; really adds to the feel. Total, man. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:00, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Capsules ==

*The health-restoring pills are a reference to the Strong Bad E-Mail time capsule.
** They are also a reference to the Scrolling Shooter Games Menu, where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.

Tons of games have capsules and it's doubtful this is an inside reference. Didn't the original Megaman hae capsules? Granted they looked different, but I don't think this is a reference to [[time capsule]], and I think it's a coincidence that the games menu also has capsules. What's next, someone chimes in with "It may be a reference to Dr. Mario"? Sorry, I'm over-analytical so I'll keep it since others may not agree with me on this. If anyone else does though, maybe we should take this to [[STUFF]]. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:07, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

*** The NES Mega Man games had no such things... I don't think it's a Dr. Mario reference either, considering the Doc isn't too "retro". I think it's more likely a "time capsule" reference...

:Although I'm not sure about the games menu reference anymore, I do believe it's a reference to time capsule because:
*They are identical looking
*In time capsule, the pill gave him an energy boost.

== About the Gas stoves... ==

What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. Any oil lamps in Free Country? well, I just thought it necessary to comment. Thanks for reading it.

--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 00:43, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== CONTINUTE? ==

Early on I added a comment about the CONTINUTE item in the main menu being misspelled possibly intentionally, but it was removed in the revision http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6&diff=56256&oldid=56255. This still exists in Version 1.1. I guess this item was removed because it was too obvious, given that the poor translation is already specified? Just wondering.

== this and peasant's quest. ==

in peasant's quest, it seems the cookies expire after you close your browser window.

is there a way to tweak the cookie to not die, or is it supposed to keep active and i just need to adjust cookie settings?

*Must be your browser settings. Works fine for me. --JZ

== Continute not working? ==

I got all the way to level 2.2 before I got a Game Over, but the continute button wouldn't work. Is there a problem wth my browser, or maybe a new version of Flash Player I need to get?

I've had the same problem. Anyone know why the continue function isn't working?

"Continue" remains greyed-out for me as well. My browser's set to accept all cookies from homestarrunner.com, and I can't see anything in my Flash prefs about denying local storage (it's set to allow homestarrunner.com to store 100K of data currently). For reference, I'm running this on Linux, Mozilla 1.7.5, and Flash 7.0.25. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 14:05, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

* Ah, seems that v1.3 has fixed the problems. My system is now allowing me to access the continue menu. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 12:52, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

' Happened to me too. My guess is the versoin change from 1.0 to 1.1 --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 16:14, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

Here's a key point: The continute button only becomes available after you've beaten the game regularly. That had me thrown off for a while...until I beat it!

*Seems to be fixed in v1.3.
** Indeed it does. Works for me now. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 12:52, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Glitch ==

[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|220px|Stinkoman stand on air!]]
I found a little glitch in the game, just wanted to share :)
It's in Level 1.1, you'll probably recognize the spot. I'm guessing the box for the ledge on the right side passes through the wall.
*Looks like it. I've noticed that before. Looks pretty funny actually.
*Well, its because stinkoman is actually standing on the land on the other side because on these games you can stand with one pixel of the shoe on the land and the rest in the air. Try it on other lands.

*Hey, the game is now apparently v1.2 I think this glitch has been fixed.
::Nope, it's still there. I don't think they'll bother fixing it, it doesn't make any real difference IMO.
*This is so stupid! I got all the way to level 2.2, and got stuck in that place you can't escape (I never died out), so I refreshed the page, and I looked at the continue button, only to find it didn't work! I am so fed up with this! Someone better find some way to fix this, 'cause I'm not playiong through all that again! Stinkoman moves way too slow to have to go through that excruciatingly tempoed sidescrolling nightmare again! Can someone please fix this, or find a solution, that doesn't make you have to play the game all over again? Much thanks in advance.
**You must have a slow computer, no name. The game isn't really as annoying on fast ones, where it goes smooth. Anyway, I have no idea what place you are talking about. I don't know any traps in level 2.2. (Maybe you should look at the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough|walkthrough]]?)--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:07, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
** I'd fix it, but I don't have the flash or the website, soooo... That's weird

== Stinkomanual? ==

Am I the only one who can't find this, whatever it is?--[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]

* It should be a link right under the controls button at the start menu?

== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

==Filmography?==
I've been wondering, does this count as an appearance in Stinkoman Filmography, or do games not count? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 20:57, 23 Mar 2005 (GMT)
*On this site, I'm sure there'd be no way to stop people from saying so. However; I in all due respects, say if it's a FILMography, it's for FILMS. Go see if there's some kind of GAME-ograpgy if you want to count that!
**IMDB lists video games in filmographies. --JZ

== Save file ==

Does anyone know the name of the file which holds the save data for the game? I have downloaded all the other necessary files but I want to have a save file in there so I don't have to play through all the levels again (Yes, I have beaten the first 3.)

On XP it's the C:\Documents and Settings\<USERNAME>\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\<randomID>\www.homestarrunner.com\stinkogame\stinkogame.swf\stinkoman.sol file.
I haven't checked, but I imagine on 9x/ME it's in the C:\Windows\Application Data\... folder.
No idea on other OSes. [[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

== <s>Level 3.1</s> Level 3.2 -- HOW!? ==

How do you beat level 3.1? Do you have to collect some fixed amount of gold or wait a certan amount of time? I can't beat it!
:Collect 20 pieces of gold from the rain drops. I believe it tells you that when you start the level. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:22, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Oops, I didn't read that. Well I got to 3.2, but now I can't get more than 4. Every freakin' piece of bread is surrounded by like 50 other things. Plus, there's one piece every like 50 screens.
:::You have to collect 10 pieces of bread, and each bad item deletes a bread you got. That's really all there is to it. A good idea is to just avoid everything until you reach a bread all by itself. It's not really as hard as you say. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:08, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Proofs of more levels ==

Is anyone else really annoyed by all the fun facts in the "Remarks" section that say "This is shown in the game so it means there will be more levels"? I'm not going to get RID of them, because they are true, but it seems pretty obvious by the MORE LEVELS SOON screen that there will be more levels. We don't need any other worthless proof. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 12:22, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Do you have to beat the game to get that screen? 'Cause many haven't beat'd it yet.
:Yes, but it's in the section anyway. Or at least it should be. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 12:54, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Low Quality...! ==

Hey...I just noticed something...the game is initially set to low quality. If you make it better, it just looks more blurry. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 18:46, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yeah, they always make the games with a classic look. Sometimes loads faster that way. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Is no good for you ==

I think the 'Don't drink, is no good for you' is a reference Tuco's line in 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly'.
*I think more likely it's a reference to the "don't do drugs" messages a lot of arcade games used to have (still have?)--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 18:35, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yep, they still have them. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 11:24, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Doesn't work on OS X? ==

I simply cannot get the game to work here on OS X. I've tried different browsers, HTML and SWF, visiting mirror sites -- every time the same thing happens: when I click new game and get past the little startup movie to the part where the character appears on the screen, I simply cannot get Stinkoman to move. None of the keys seem to work. He just stays there and waits. Any ideas? The keyboard works in all the other games. [[User:AaronSw|AaronSw]] 23:55, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

:[http://macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash Do you have the latest version of flash?] --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

::Yes.

== Add an article on custom levels? ==

I think we should have an article on it, and provide external links to all levels people have made. Who thinks this is a good idea? -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:33, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I think that's what Fanstuff's for. Not that I know for sure, I've only messed with the main Wiki. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:05, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Yes, that is what Fanstuff wiki is for. That's the whole reason it was created- fan material. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:But an article about level editing might be okay. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Current Level Editing Status ==

Has anyone made anymore headway into level editing? I've got the whole thing working locally, and can even edit the XML files to make simple changes, however I do not have the time nor experience to make a level editor.

Additionally, in the XML files, the <D> field seems to just be an object count, but what could <sT> be?

I think some serious inspection of the SWF file and the code is needed before we can do full-featured levels. especially for cT types.

Also trying to figure out how to launch the level editor - I see the entire class. Is there a Flash debugger where I can call a function/object at will?

:I just finished a level editor, after all kind'sa studying that <sT> stuff. I'll try to get it out soon. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Fading Blue Boxes ==
I didn't want to post this in the article, but I don't think Flash would generate those fading blue boxes. I um, really don't see how. Besides, how would there be such oddly shaped boxes? I thought it was just a Nintendo thingy.

It was a reference to Nintendo games that left those artifacts. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|ackicantthinkofaname]]

== Article on custom levels ==
I made one where you can put the code for your custom level [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|here]] on the fanstuff wiki. Should I put a link to it on the Stinkoman 20X6 page? --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 16:29, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
:I don't think so as of yet. If levels are added and stuff, and a tutorial on how to do make a level, then sure. But that's my opinion. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:46, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== When you see a boss... ==

When a boss comes up on the screen, some voice shouts something. Do you know it says?

Catsmeat

Something on the lines of "Are you asking for a challenge?" You could have found that out on the walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:49, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Tonberry reference? ==

In the manual entry for "pooru-pooru", it states, "Land on one and it's DOINK for you!"
I swear this is a reference to Tonberrys from the Final Fantasy series. Can anyone confirm this?
--Bdragon

== Declined Fun Facts ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Update Ahoy!==
Stinkoman 20X6 has been taken off the H*R website. TBC are probably updating it. I can just smell new levels! -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:50, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* I sure as heck hope they are! I was going to try to play it (I haven't in a while) but it was gone! --MessedRocker (not registered)

:Me too! I'm almost certain that it's an update on the game. I '''CAN'T WAIT!''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:12, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* Well, I think we should all join hands and pray with all our hearts that [[Trogador]] is finally publicly revealed! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 11:39, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:32:49 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm not running any other p2ps or other torrents. This 1kB/s stuff is killer. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm sitting pretty on 4.3% myself, though it looks like everyone else is also around 4.3 or 4.2. Ugh... someone join the chat. I'm lonely. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::I'm at 4.6% after 25 hours. Who-who. I guess this works great if you are the last person on the planet to download something and not one of the first 20 [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I've got a 4.8% chunk thus far (been connected for more than a day now). This torrent stuff is so...pretendous. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I just realized it's somehow been off for the past day or so, since I rebooted the computer. Oh no, I've falled behind! I'm only at %4.1. I can't help but feel I'm caught up in some kind of Internet Dowloads pyramid scheme... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm at 5% and downloading pretty quickly-about 256 kb/s [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:36, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Now I'm near 13% and at 300 kb/s. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm at 20%. Gosh, this thing's gonna take a while! [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 23:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Seed problems?===

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

To all those who have the complete file: Please keep your torrents open!
And could someone please reencode it into something smaller? MPEG-4 anyone? I don't care so much for video quality I just want to know what happened (and I don't mean the writeup).

I'm so frustrated trying to get this video! Every client I use either at work or home does not connect to the tracker using the UDP protocol. Am I missing something? I even used BitComet which was recommended above. --[[User:Scooper12|Scooper12]] 08:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I think the problem is that people are no longer seeding. After all, the file went up about a month ago, and I'm guessing there's been a rather limited audience.
:This is a disadvantage of Bittorrent; since there's no central server, there's no guarantee that there's a seed available.
:It might be an idea to create a smaller, more compressed version with VirtualDub and put it up here - of course, even that could be a lot of bandwidth, especially at first.
:If it can be compressed low enough, there's also the option of creating an account on another webhost with unlimited bandwidth. [http://b-one.net B-one] is quite cheap, and if someone creates a small personal site around it (and possibly divides it into segments), it won't be in violation of their ToS. :p
:If we were to do that, the price for a .com/.net/.org domain and hosting would be €70,80 per year, plus €30 in initial setup fees. Using a different domain, we can get it lower - such as €58,80 per year and €18 in setup fees (.de/.nl), or €60,80 per year and €14,75 in setup (.dk)
:(For reference, €1 is currently ~1.29 USD.) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 16:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Encouraging Milestone===
"First and 10" - See [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/firstat10.png screenshot]. I shouldn't brag about being the first "leecher" to have 10%. This is, however, encouraging as I've been connected for about three days and have one tenth of the desired AVI file...at this rate, I see just about everyone drawing off Tom's 'seed' to have all 1.66GB in a month. Does that seem reasonable? ...Or will it (the rate) pick up? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Gotta Break 4:40(%)===

...and we did! Nearly all of my peers are past 40%, and some are heading toward 50%. Despite having an ''Average Download Rate'' of 1 KB/s (on my machine, it say within 99h:99m:99s), it seems that the average rate of 3% a day has been blown away - at least that's what I've witnessed (as I had 19.5% of the file last night and now have 46.5%, quite a difference for just overnight!) Now, I know for sure that it won't take a month to see the treasure Tom recorded for us and himself - 20 minutes of Matt and Mike signing autographs until his camera's battery died and then what we believe to be the entirety of the performance - something to look forward to. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:18, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I'm 45.6, nearly half way. My estimite says about 17, 18 hours left, which'll be awsome if it's right. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 13:09, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

::60.1 now. Man, I can't wait until it's over. My bandwidth's getting murdered. Anything I try to download takes forever, so I've been putting off all of my other downloads. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:34, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::60.1 here, too. More than half way there! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::::70.1% as of this morning. Too bad partially downloaded AVI cannot be viewed - otherwise I imagine the bulk of the transcript would have already been posted in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:30, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

Actually, partial AVIs can be viewed using [http://videolan.org/vlc/ VLC]. However, it doesn't work very well with torrented files unless one has over 90% or so. I tried it just now and got only a few seconds. By the way, has the tracker stopped working for you? I can't connect to it, or any peers. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 11:07, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Woah, you're right. I've got 72% and have watched about 15 mins so far. It's a bit choppy but great stuff. -Jonathan

::70%. Getting there... I haven't watched any of it though, wanna watch the whole thing in one big chunk... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 23:59, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

::: Well, I managed to watch an hour. I think it's all there, apart from many frames and bits of sound between bits already there. So I think you can watch it all but until more is downloaded it will be very choppy. -Jonathan
:::: Correction, I was wrong. Since yesterday I've got 25 more mins. There is some amazingly cool stuff in there so I couldn't wait. :P -Jonathan

77%. Man, I need to finish this soon. Torrent just isn't designed for Lite Speed internet access. My bandwidth is dying a slow and painful death. At least the rest of my family can't understand why it's been running so slow and buggy lately... Heh heh... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 17:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

95%. Hopefully by tomorrow morning it'll be done and finished. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 02:11, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

===T-Bird's Code Problems===

Okay, I finished it, but have been trying for like 20 minutes to play it. Am I missing something? Do I have to convert the file from .avi.torrent to something else or something? I'm so close, and yet so far... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:37, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It should end up as a straight AVI file, named "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi". Is that what you have?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:49, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Yes, that's the file name. But I try to play it using Windows Media Player, and get this:
<pre>Windows Media Player cannot play the file.
The file is either corrupt or the Player does not
support the format you are trying to play.</pre>
Don't tell me I have to do it all over again... Any ideas? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 16:49, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hmm, do you have the right codec? I think you should be able to set Windows Media Player to download it. I used the XviD codec, so you'll just need a XviD mpeg4 decoder..[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:28, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I searched Google, found a 'XviD mpeg4 decoder', I think, and tried my best to decode it. Could I be doing something wrong there? I also downloaded a 'GSpot Codec Information' thingie, following an Faq, which basically tells me everything about my video file, and it looks like it could somehow have become 'TBC_at_NYU_1_March_2005.avi.avi', with two avis. Is this possible, or am I reading it wrong? The file size is apparently '68,778 bytes', so is this the right size, or is the file really incomplete like Media Player keeps telling me? If any of these potential problems are the case, are there any ways to fix them? I'm not much of the computer code kinda guy, and I'm getting kinda lost in all of this. Any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated, and all previous help is also appreciated and thanked for. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:32, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::No no, you don't need to do any decoding. The codec will just be installed so that your video player can decode it. [http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/ This codec here] should be what you need.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:28, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Yea, that's the one I already got, and it's still not working? Is 68,778 bytes the correct file size? Any other ideas? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 16:37, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::Your problem is that the file you're trying to play is the .torrent, not the .avi. (Windows has a tendency to rename files with "dual" extensions upon download.) The movie should be in the folder you specified in your BitTorrent client. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 04:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::::Wow. I'm really stupid. 83.88.139.125, I love you. Seriously, you have made me so happy. THANK YOU!!!! [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 09:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::::Hey, no problem - after all, SOMEONE had to help. :P --[[User:Pidgeot|[[Wikipedia:User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]]] 10:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Recompress?===
1.6 gigs is a little big for a video, I don't know how long the video is but it's pretty common to have 2+ hour movies at under 700 megs, so it would be much more convenient for most people to compress the video more. Just a thought ... ---JZ
: It's over 1 hour 25mins long. That's all I know. -Jonathan

== Transcribing the video ==

Well, the video is a heckava long thing and the transcript will be aquard how it is right now (before presentation/prsentation) so here's my idea.

Have 2 completely seperate transcripts, "The Lobby" and "The Talk" or something, and split 'The Talk' up into about 1000 mini sections, like, "Stinkoman 20X6" "Peasant's Quest" and "Bubblegum Comics" to help organize the sections of the talk itself, obviously in order.

Also, if we do split up sections, using the talk page here we can pretty much, like, 'take dibs' on sections as this is one thing that I don't think one person can transcribe.

Opinions? -Jonathan

:I concur. Can you think of a way (besides the mini sections) to divide this article up without resulting in a 'heckava' long page? Or are you thinking we need to split this into several articles (i.e., one called 'NYU Talk - The Lobby' & NYU Talk (as it is now)? If we decide to keep it as one complete article, some may lean towards restricting the transcipt to just dialogue from the actual talk. However, some interesting questions are asked of TBC before the talk starts, so I don't know how to leave it. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:23, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'd like to keep this as one article. The sections seem like a good idea.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:00, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::From a wiki organizational standpoint, I will agree with you that limiting the transcript of this event to one article is the best thing to do. However, I must bring to light something somewhat obvious here - when it's all said and done (err, listened to and written), what you recorded for us contains one hour and 54 minutes worth of video. Granted, not all of it is occupied by dialogue, but nonetheless, there will likely be much more than 32 kilobytes of text on this page. I know that my browser won't 'crap out', but I do know that strange things happen with extra long pages and this one is destined to be anything but short. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 02:44, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::You're right. Let's see how it goes before we make make different articles though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:47, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Taking Dibs===
Me and many others have now managed to finish downloading it, and transcibing a 2 hour video is not a task for 1 man.
I vote we take dibs on all the different sections of this to transcribe and then everyone does certain parts.
I mentioned this above but I think now is the time to actually set up the dibs. How about a list of everything in order and you edit and put your name next to it with "Taken by (whoever)"
Let the VERY BIG TRANSCRIBING THING BEGIN!
-Jonathan

:As it stands now, I've got most of the actual "talk" part completed (saved on my computer, but I won't publish into the article until I've doublechecked what I've typed.) As for "taking dibs", I can handle everything up to (an including) the preview for Stinkoman 20X6. However, I would encourage those that have 100% of the file to verify the "In the Lobby" transcript that is currently on the article - I just realized that the bits and pieces that I watched when I had 78% of the video were a bit mixed up so the dialogue is slightly out of order and some is missing entirely. Thanks! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 18:27, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Posters ==

At the actual NYU thing, before the whole dealy started, they were handing out posters to sing. They read the following:

<center><pre> (Typed on the Tandy 400) a>Every time that I look at myself, I can't believe how awesome I am!!!!
(In big, white letters) A Date with
Homestar Runner
(Typed on the Tandy) a lecture by the Chapp brothers + their video guy
Tuesday March 1st
6:00 pm
5:45 doors
Kimmel Center
Shorin Performance Center
8th floor $3 NYU
$4 Non-NYU
tickets at ticketcentral </pre></center>

The whole poster looked like the Tandy monitor, and there was a dim reflection of Strong Bad's mask on it. Also, Strong Bad was standing next to all the type.

3 Times Halloween Funjob

Homeschool Winner — Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:39:46 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Trivia */

[[Image:ween03.png|thumb|The gang at Strong Sad's seance.]]

Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat go toilet-papering. Strong Sad and Marzipan try to contact the spirit of [[Credenza]], her dead ficus plant. The rest of the crew go trick-or-treating.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The Cheat]], [[The King of Town]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[The Goblin]], [[Stinkoman]] (easter egg), [[Homsar]] (easter egg)

See [[Halloween Costumes#3 Times Halloween Funjob (2003)|Halloween Costumes]] for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Spooky Forest]], [[The Stick]], [[The Halloween House]]

'''Page Title:''' Get Scared NOW! Ask me how!

== Transcript ==
''{The scene opens with Homestar Runner at Bubs' Concession Stand, finalizing a transaction.}''

'''BUBS:''' ...and 16 cents is your change. ''{drops the change on the counter}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa! Free money!

'''BUBS:''' So, what are you gettin' into tonight, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Marzipan and those are gonna try to summon the spirit of her dead ficus plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probably just end up trick-or-treatin'.

'''BUBS:''' What about Strong Bad? What's he doin'?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. You can never tell with that guy.

''{Strong Bad approaches the concession stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ok, Bubs. I'll have 90 rolls of toilet paper and 60 dozen eggs. ''{looks around}'' ...And a corn dog.

'''BUBS:''' I got it all packed up for you in the wagon round back.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, pally.

''{Strong Bad and Bubs go around back.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''What'' is he ''up'' to?

''{titles:}''

<pre>3 TIMES HALLOWEEN FUNJOB

a halloween-type cartoon by the brothers chaps

talkings by matt and missy

MU-HU-HA-HA</pre>

'''MARZIPAN:''' Now Strong Sad, I need to make contact with Credenza. Homestar watered him with Yoo-Hoo while I was in Miami and he died and now I really miss him.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ok. I'll need a photograph of the deceased and two box Oreos.

''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat in their costumes with their supplies for the evening}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be so great you guys. Everybody's houses and pumpkins and trees won't know what hit 'em. This is gonna be great!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Hey, guys. What's up? What are we doing here? Making omelettes? Going to the bathroom? I'm cool with that.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get out of here, old man! We're gonna be pelting people like you and houses like your castle with these eggs.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' C'mon! Let me hang out!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! Forget it! C'mon, loose dudes. Let's go hit Marzipan's gazebo ''{pronounced gayz-boh}''.

''{they all leave and the King of Town chases after them.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I'm dressed to Hamburgle... Rubble! Rubble!

''{cut to Homestar, Pom Pom, Coach Z, and Bubs standing around in their costumes}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I bet I get...a million pounds of candy this year. A million pounds!

'''BUBS:''' Whatever. I'm goin' for quality over quantity.

'''COACH Z:''' Same here, Bubsy. I'm holdin' out for cookies with gold-plated chocolate chorps!

''{Bubs sighs}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' We'll see about that. C'mon, Pom Pom. Let's go find some houses giving away lead candies!

''{Cut to a view of the sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let 'er rip! ''{many rolls of toilet paper are thrown into the air. The Stick is covered.}'' Yes! All will tremble at the crack of our eggs and the hush of our 2-ply toilet papers.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I know how to use toilet paper. Let me try.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Listen... ahem... Your Highness, we're about to egg the everloving crap out of your castle. It just won't be any fun if you're standing there!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Yeah it will! On account o' I'm totally cool!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, you're not. But we're prepared to give you a dozen of these eggs and let you wash it down with a roll of toilet paper in exchange for you leaving us alone for the rest of eternity.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' It's a deal! ''{The King runs off, taking his eggs and toilet paper with him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I thought.

''{cuts to a door opening to reveal Coach Z and Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' What the? Oh, I remember this house from a couple of years ago.

'''COACH Z:''' Trick or Trort!

'''BUBS:''' C'mon. man.

'''COACH Z:''' Ok. Trick or Treat.

''{At this point you can choose what candy to give them by dragging it onto them.}''

==== Swedish Fish ====
'''COACH Z:''' Oh, the Swordish Forsh!

'''BUBS:''' What did I just tell you?

'''COACH Z:''' Cut me some slack. It's a crowd-pleaser.

''{door closes}''

==== Delicious "Bag" ====
'''COACH Z:''' What is that? One of them old school candies? I got some old school for you'z. ''{rapping}'' This year Halloween falls on a weekend. Me and ghetto boys are trick-or treat-en'. Robbin' little kids for bags.

'''BUBS:''' Uh... he doesn't really mean we've been out robbin' little kids. ''{door begins to close}'' No, wait...''{slam}''

==== Zagnut ====
'''BUBS:''' Aw, Zagnut!

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah. Aw, Zagnut!

'''BUBS:''' No, no. Aw, Zagnut!

'''COACH Z:''' Right, right. Aw, Zagnut!

'''BOTH:''' Awwwww— ''{slam}''

''{you can also choose nothing by clicking on the pumpkin or any of the candy. If you do this, the door closes, and reopens with Stinkoman dressed as Speed Racer.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Check out my new cosplay! ''{pronounced cohs-PLAY}'' I'm a demon on wheels!

==== Zagnut ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' I can't eat that kind of bar because I'm in training. Don't you have of the other kinds of bars? You know...energy bars...or power bars...or training bars?

==== Prawn ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' I love prawns. Simple as that! ''{dances}''

==== Jar labeled "Akira" ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' Eh. Ew. Aah! Nnn! Eh! Ew! Ahhhhh! ''{Giant tentacles start coming out his body where his right arm should be.}'' That tickles.

''{cuts to Pom Pom and Homestar walking along}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow, Pom Pom. Did you know that lady? Why did she give you a hundred bucks? Alls I got was a dang old Bit o' Honey.

''{they stop at The Poopsmith, dressed up, who is sticking his shovel in and out of a pile of you-know-what}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, Pom Pom. You knock this time. ''{Pom Pom does nothing}'' Fine. I'll ring the doorbell. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! ''{He rocks his head back and forth as if he were banging it on a door}'' The Poopsmith! Trick or treat! ''{The Poopsmith offers some of his dung. Pom Pom bubbles something and leaves}'' Suit yourself. More for me. Lay it on me, Poop-Stick!

''{cuts to Strong Sad in his seance}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Credenza! Credwenzia! Crewdenz—

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's been two hours and we haven't heard anything. Credenza must hate me.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, no! Maybe I just need to do this some more. Credenzell!

''{they hear a knocking sound}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' What's that? That must be him.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yup. That sounds like a ficus.

''{it's Homestar Runner on the porch}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let me in. Da, Da, Da. Let me in!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey, you're not a dead ficus plant!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're so smart. I'm Homestar Runn—

'''MARZIPAN:''' Get in here, you guys. You're gonna scare away Credenza.

''{cuts to the King of Town polishing off his toilet paper}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Doo! Not bad for a first course. I'm still hungry.

''{cuts back to everyone at Marzipan's house}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I told you I'd get a million libs ''{pronounced LIBS}'' of candy.

'''BUBS:''' That sure doesn't smell like candy.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, you're right! Poopsmith? Did you give me some bum candy?

'''BUBS:''' ''{snickers}'' He sure did!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Any minute now. ''{electrical disturbances occur}'' Oooo!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Whoa! Electrical disturbances. There's definitely a powerful spirit present.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do you mean, like, the spirit of giving?

''{outside the King of Town is eating a string of candy corn lights}''
'''The King of Town:''' Oot oh. oot ooh.

'''MARZIPAN:''' You've got to be kidding me! Stop doing that right now.

''{she goes back in}''

'''The King of Town:''' Stop what? I don't do nothing!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Stupid, stupid King of Town. He gets on my nerv—''{loud banging occurs}'' What the crap!?

'''STRONG SAD:''' I think this is it!

''{outside, Strong Mad is punching the side of the house with a roll of TP over and over}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' WAH! WAH! WAH! WAH!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uhhh, that's not really the conventional way to roll a house, but, uh, whatever works!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{punches a hole in the house}'' HIGGINS!!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh. Hi, Strong Mad. ''{mumbles}'' Stupid. This is stupid. He ate the candy corn lights.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa. What's going on in here? You guys having one of those stupid moron parties or something?

'''STRONG SAD:''' OK. Everybody say it with me this time.

'''ALL except STRONG BAD, HOMESTAR RUNNER AND THE POOPSMITH:''' Credenza! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' This is boring!

'''ALL except STRONG BAD, HOMESTAR RUNNER AND THE POOPSMITH:''' Credenza! 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Witches' brew!

''{the lights go out}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Whoa. The lights went out.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa. Magic.

'''BUBS:''' Yup. I've dealt with this before. Lights: definitely out.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And somebody's a-grabbin' a-my butt.

''{the lights come on and there is a ficus plant on the table}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Credenza! You're alive!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Saints be praised! Credenza's alive!

'''STRONG SAD AND MARZIPAN:''' Yay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...and Strong Bad got to throw toilet paper at stuff!

'''STRONG BAD, STRONG MAD AND THE CHEAT:''' Yay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:'''... and I got a million pounds of candy! ''{no one cheers}'' Yay. ...and the goblin showed up dressed like up a Santaman.

''{The Goblin dance}''

'''ALL:''' Yay!

== Easter Eggs ==
* When you can give Bubs and Coach Z candy, any mouse click that doesn't result in candy being given results in Stinkoman appearing, dressed as Speed Racer—see the transcript.

*When Homestar asks "Did you give me some bum candy?" You can click on The Poopsmith's head to see Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N Roses.
:'''HOMSAR:''' I'm open for interpretations!

*At the end when everyone is standing around, click the rightmost candycorn light to see a bonus video! See "External Links" to view this video.
:''{Puppet Homestar is at a tennis court dressed as John McEnroe, holding a tennis racquet.}''

:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Seriously! You can't be serious! That ball was on the line! ''{taps ground with his racquet}'' Come on! I don't believe this. ''{he throws his racquet on the ground and storms off.}''

*After the cartoon is over you can click on some people to make things happen. These people are:
**'''The Poopsmith'''
*:''{The Poopsmith rockets off to the right, flaming. (This is M.Bison's Psycho Crusher move)}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool. Flaming Poopsmith.
*:''{The Poopsmith reappears from the left.}''
**'''Strong Bad'''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not El Debarge.
*:'''BUBS:''' No, no, he's Miami Sound Machine.
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I'm not.
*:'''COACH Z:''' He's Terence Trent D'arby!
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I'm Carmen freakin' Mir—no, wait. I'm Ozone. From Breakin'.
**'''Strong Sad'''
*:'''COACH Z:''' Well, Strong Sad, this is a beautiful house you got here.
*:'''STRONG SAD:''' This is not my beautiful house!
*:'''COACH Z:''' Oh, and I haven't been introduced your beautiful wife yet, neither.
*:'''STRONG SAD:''' This is not my beautiful wife!
**'''The Cheat'''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat... Um... Dress up as something different next year. Thing's creeping me out.
**'''Bubs'''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
*:'''BUBS:''' Whatever you say, Homestar.
**'''Marzipan'''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Marzipan, what's with your sweater costume?
*:'''STRONG BAD:''' The Log Lady, huh? Maybe you should get together with the Poopsmith!
**'''Coach Z'''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
*:'''COACH Z:''' I'm Kool Moe Dee! You know, from The Treacherous 3?
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, see, I only saw Treacherous 1 and 2, so, um, I wouldn't know.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*When Homestar says "I told you I'd get a million libs of candy", he is trying to pronounce the abbreviation of pounds: "lbs".
*Cosplay (as mentioned in Stinkoman's greeting) is a form of dress-up done usually at anime conventions, where people dress up as anime characters they enjoy.

===Trivia===
*Bit o' Honey, Zagnut, and Swedish Fish are actual candies.
*The sound the King of Town makes when he eats the candy corn lights is the same as when he eats the food flung at him in the game [[Revenge of the King]].
*The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*This is one of the few occurrences where Homestar wheres some sort of pants/shorts

===Remarks===
*When Homestar says "someone is grabbing my butt," it is most likely Bubs, since he is right behind Homestar. Or his imagination.
**His line may be a reference to [[1 step ahead]].
*This Halloween episode carries on the tradition in which a secret scene with Homsar is activated by interacting with the Poopsmith somehow.
**In every other Halloween episode (except the first, for the obvious reason that Homsar didn't exist yet), activating Homsar causes him to appear with the rest of the group at the end. This episode is the exception—whether or not you activate Homsar or Stinkoman, they do not appear at the end.
*This is the second time Strong Mad has visible chest hairs.
*The photo of Marzipan's dead plant that appears in the introduction and during the seance resembles "Chuck the Plant" from various LucasArts Adventure Games.

===Inside References===
*The Cheat's costume may refer to the first Homestar Runner book, which was written during the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.
*Strong Bad references the first Halloween toon when he says "I'm Carmen freakin Miranda!" and the second Halloween toon when he says "I'm Carmen freakin Sandiego!"
*The Delicious "Bag" is a reference to [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]].
*This toon marks the third time [[Witches' Brew]], an inside joke of tremendous proportions, has been mentioned.
*[[Van Buren]]'s face is on the coins given to Homestar at the beginning, marking yet another relatively-famed inside joke.
*Though now focused on the King of Town's castle, Strong Bad previously wanted to "egg the everloving crap" out of Marzipan's house in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7]].
*Bubs' line "I remember this house from a couple of years ago.", as well as the whole scene, is an obvious reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]].
*When Homestar says that some lady gave Pom Pom a hundred bucks, it is likely a reference to the house that was giving out change, as mentioned in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]].

===Real-World References===
*If you give Stinkoman the jar with "Akira" on it you will get a surprise from the Anime movie of the same name.
*Marzipan says Homestar watered Credenza with [[Wikipedia:Yoo-Hoo|Yoo-Hoo]] when she was in Miami.
*Coach Z's mention of Strong Sad's beautiful house and beautiful wife is a reference to the Talking Heads' song "Once in a Lifetime".
*Coach Z's old school rap is the beginning of the fourth verse of the Geto Boys' "Mind Playin Tricks On Me".
*The line "I'm a demon on wheels!" from Stinkoman's intro is taken from the [[Wikipedia:Speed Racer|Speed Racer]] theme song.
* In the scene where Strong Sad is chanting Credenza's name by himself with Marzipan in the room, his voice sounds like it's reversed. This is a reference to certain scenes in the Twin Peaks series, where scenes were filmed with the actors speaking their lines backwards, then played in reverse. The lines ended up being "reversed" twice, making them understandable, but sounding very creepy.
* The flaming maneuver the Poopsmith does when you click on him is M. Bison's Psycho Crusher attack from [[Wikipedia:Street Fighter|Street Fighter]].
*When Strong Mad bashes a hole in the house he yells "Higgins!!" This is a reference to the show [[Wikipedia:Magnum, P.I.|Magnum, P.I.]] Higgins was Tom Selleck's boss in that show.
*The line Homestar Says, "I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.", at the end of the toon, might be referring to as [[Wikipedia:Wesley Snipes|Wesley Snipes]], the actor who played the character "[[Wikipedia:Blade|Blade]]" in all 3 Blade movies.
*"Rubble! Rubble!" was the Hamburglar's catch phrase.
*Marzipan's "Log Lady" costume is likely a reference to the "Log Lady" from twin peaks, who carried a log around that she claimed talked to her. One thing it talked to her about was the dead Laura Palmer, which fits granted that Marzipan was attending a seance in this 'toon.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/ween03.html watch "3 Times Halloween Funjob"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/ween03.swf view the Flash file for "3 Times Halloween Funjob"]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tennis.html watch the Easter egg tennis video]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tennis.swf view the Flash file for the tennis video]

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[[Category:The Goblin Filmography]]

Strong Bad

Homeschool Winner — Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:13:40 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:sb1.PNG|thumb|He does everything! Always!]]

== Biography ==

'''Strong Bad''' is one of the most popular characters. Strong Bad answers [[Strong Bad Email |e-mails]] with a passion, usually every Monday or Tuesday. He's [[Strong Sad]]'s big brother and [[Strong Mad]]'s little brother. His is the dominant personality and he loves to push everyone around: he's often ridiculing Strong Sad, abusing [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], or prank-calling [[Marzipan]]. He has boxing gloves for hands (that always have square window reflections on them, no-matter where he is), a Mexican wrestling mask for a head, and it is confirmed that the mask IS actually his head in [http://members.shaw.ca/kevinscott/Homestar/page5.html this interview]. His favorite saying is (or was for a time) "holy crap." He is a stickler for grammar and [[Spelling|spelling]], and hates it when asked "[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|Hey, Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on?]]". He usually does what he does best when he gets an e-mail like that: '''[[DELETED]]!!!''' The blue diamond on his face also gives him the power to mentally open bottles of [[Cold One]]s and even tip Homestar's hat over.

He fancies himself as a criminal mastermind, and totally popular with the ladies, though there is little evidence of this latter claim, and even [[lures & jigs|admits]] at one point he doesn't really know anything about the ladies. He seems to have a grudge against [[The Birds|birds]], as shown in issues of [[Teen Girl Squad]]. He also loves to listen to Peter Frampton, [[Limozeen]] and [[Taranchula]].

The original concept for the 100th e-mail, [[flashback]], would have explained why Strong Bad never wears a shirt—he originally wore a star shirt, and when Marzipan got Homestar one, he tore his off in protest, and remained shirtless ever since.

*'''Domicile''': [[House of the Brothers Strong]]

*'''Debut''': [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Strong Bad Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title:''' Get ready for the new!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[Strongbadia]]}''

''{Strong Bad is seen standing next to several cardboard props, one of which being Homestar Runner with a snake wrapped around his head. He is moving some of the props around.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hold on, I'm not done with the props yet! ''{turns to camera}'' Greetings, party people in the place to be! I am called Strong Bad! Hand over all your moneys in a paper and/or plastic bag! Ladies, form a line to my left for makeouts! Dudes, form a line to my right for high fives! Anyway, like I said, I'm Strong Bad. I've been described as cool, awesome, hot, video games, the hottest, and real real hot. Me and my big brother and our The Cheat pretty much run the show around here, as well as serve as a sort of multi-purpose criminal element. Yeah, we got a lot of-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ahe-he-hem.

'''STRONG BAD''': What are you doing here?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Well, I was gonna get a high five, but, I see I'm already here. And with a snake on my head!

'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, that's right. So I'm gonna have to charge you double. You know, since you're both here.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': That sounds reasonable. ''{pronounces it re-ZON-able}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Okay, I only accept gold nuggets. Or maybe Denver Nuggets. ...Whatever you got on ya. Chicken nuggets?

== Fun Facts ==
*"Party peoples in the place to be!" is a reference to an "Ultramagnetic MC" song called "Ego Trippin'", during which before the song, the announcer says, "party peoples in the place to be! Just for you, it's the Ultra-Magnetic MCs!!!!"
*Strong Bad and Strong Mad, and their original role as tag team wrestlers, came from the Nintendo video game "Tag Team Wrestling" created by Data East U.S.A. in 1986.
*Strong Bad's hometown is Parts Unknown.

== Also known as... ==
[[Image:sbpuppet.PNG|thumb|[[Puppet Stuff|Puppet]] Strong Bad]]
*[[1936 Strong Bad]] ([[1936]])
*[[Stinkoman]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Archibald]] ([[Decemberween]])
*[[Keyboard Strong Bad]] ([[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]])
*[[Dangeresque (character)| Dangeresque]] ([[Dangeresque|Dangeresque (film series)]])
*[[Little Strong Bad]]
*[[Strong Badman]]
*[[Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad]]
*[[Vector Strong Bad]]
*[[Tragic Clown Dog]]
*[[Wrestleman]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]]
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]]
*Homestar as Angus Young
*Ozone (from the movie [http://imdb.com/title/tt0086998/ Breakin'])
*[[Wikipedia:Cesar Romero|Cesar Romero]] as [[Wikipedia:The Joker|The Joker]]

== See Also ==
*[[Strong Bad Evolution]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_sb.html|watch Strong Bad's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_sb.swf|view the flash file for Strong Bad's character video]]
*[mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad]

{{Characters}}

Sir Loodabert Comma

Homeschool Winner — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:40:53 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

[[Image:comma discovery.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The Discovery of Comma]]

The comma was named after '''Sir Loodabert Comma''', who is pictured here with his sherpa. The exact time period in which he lived is unknown, though it was evidently around the time that The [[Castlefunnies]] came out. Comma's 'discoveration' of the comma may be a reference to the first 'Austin Powers', in which Dr. Evil's father claimed to have invented the question mark, or may be a different reference, as highlighted on the [[old comics]] entry.

Sir Loodabert is portrayed by Matt, with Mike as "sherpa".

=== Complete Filmography ===
*[[old comics]] (Debut)

[[Category: Items]]

long pants

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:06:44 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Trivia */

[[Image:sbemail127.png|thumb|Light globes]]
'''Strong Bad Email #127'''

The answer to why Homestar doesn't wear pants is finally revealed...almost.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Marzipan]] (easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar's House]] (easter egg)

'''Date:''' March 28, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:04

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' And if I email you, girl! Woman! ''{He holds up pieces of paper that say "Girl." and "Woman." as he says those words}'' Oh, would you email me, girl? Woman? ''{He holds up the papers again. Then he brings up the email:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why doesn't homestar ever wear pants? It's kind of
creepy how he walks around with no pants on all the time.
Anyway, I think you should get him some pants, maybe some
parachute pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or maybe
some clown pants, I don't care, just get him some pants!
Tootles!
Clancy

''{Strong Bad skips everything after "Anyway" and before "I don't care" and, instead, says "Blabbity blah, blah blebbity bloo". He also pronounces "Tootles" as "Toot-less" and "Clancy" as "Clanky".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, ''{begins typing}'' Too long, Clanky, too looong! Good thing you didn't indent, man, or this never woulda made it past my 2nd paragraph filter: ''{types 'run "Edga Jr."'}'' Edga Jr.

''{The splash screen for "Edga Jr. The Long Email Killa Filta" comes up}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, look at him. He's one o' dem red-haireded rapscalli... wags. ''{returns to the email}'' Well, I think we can salvage this one with a little editing. Let me once again call upon the services of my trusty, somewhat dusty, electronic light-pen input high-tech expensive device! Now in HD! ''{he pulls out a correction pen having the words "X-PENSIVE WHITE" and shakes it}'' Just have to shake up the... expensive electrons here. All set! So, let's see! ''{he mumbles and says}'' Expensive high-tech device... ''{as he whites out the words, producing:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why <s>doesn't homestar ever</s> wear pants? <s>It's kind of</s>
creepy <s>how he walks around with no</s> pants <s>on</s> all the time.
<s>Anyway, I think you should</s> get <s>him</s> some <s>pants,</s> maybe <s>some</s>
parachute <s>pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or</s> maybe
<s>some</s> clown <s>pants, I don't</s> care, <s>just get him</s> some <s>p</s>ants!
Toot<s>les!</s>
Clancy

'''STRONG BAD:''' There! Now let's see what we got! ''{re-reads the altered email}'' Dear Strongbad, Why wear pants? Creepy pants all the time get some. Maybe parachute, maybe clown care. Some ants toot! Clanky. ''{begins typing}'' Now ''there's'' an email worth answering! Some ants toot. Tee-hee! ''{clears screen, but the correction fluid remains}'' So, why wear pants? An age old question. Was it not Adam West who once said, "E-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Hey, Strong Bad! ''{camera pans back to show Homestar wearing very short purple pants}'' Check out my creepy pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking away}'' Ew, Homestar! What're you wearing them Daisy Dukes for?!

''{Homestar's pants shine.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 'Cuz you said, "creepy pants all the time get some."

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get some what?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Light globes?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Light globes.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You know, like in a lamp! Light globes! ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So... you put on hotpants in the hopes of getting some lightbulbs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Globes. ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, since you're here, let's talk about your pants. Or your lack thereof. Daisy Dukes aside.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What are you talking about, Strong Bad? I wear long pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... no, from what I can tell, you wear ''no'' pants and have blue soles glued to the bottoms of your feet. ''{indicates Homestar's feet}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, that's simply not true. I have long pants, I wear long pants. I'm a long pants man, long pants, long pants! ''{starts getting upset and dances around}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, calm down... I didn't mean to-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumps high into the air, and convulses on Strong Bad's desk}'' Long pants, Strong Bad! The longest pants! Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ''{starts teleporting around the room, first appearing in front of Strong Bad, then leaning in behind him, then hanging upside down from the ceiling, then pixellated on the Lappy's screen, then blurred in the very foreground, then upside down under the desk, then in his original position, all while chanting the following}'' Long long long long long long pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, that's it! We need to get you some serious clown care, man!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But I was told long pants! Long pants! They said long pants! Always long pants! ''{leans toward Strong Bad}'' Long, my pants! Gleaming pants! Glorious pants! ''{runs away, leaving his pants behind. They fall on Strong Bad's foot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bleh! Egh! BLEEEGGEHHEGH!

''{He attempts to shake the pants off. He eventually does, and The Cheat appears stage left to burn them to a crisp with the [[BMW Lighter]].}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{says something}''

''{The Cheat leaves, and Strong Bad turns back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Noice work, Clanky. You made Homestar go nuts and you've seriously creeped me out. And how am I supposed to get this crap offa here? ''{Everything starting with the "t" in "get" is obscured by the dried correction fluid. Strong Bad grabs a cloth and attempts to wipe the correction fluid off the screen, to no avail. He mutters:}'' Stupid... made-up technology... that I made up... Light pen... ''{mumbles}'' The Cheat! Call tech support and tell 'em you broke the Lappy again!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Selecting "Why wear pants" will bring up some fortune cookies, similar to those in the old [[Fortune Cookies]] game. As you hover the cursor over each one, it brings up a sentence of Strong Bad's "improved" email.
* Clicking on the socket under the table after Strong Bad says "Clown Care" brings up a business card for the service, [[Kertified Klown Kare]]. It reads:
Kertified
Klown Kare

-Pie Injuries
-Giant Foot Problems
-Wacky Malaria
-Grease Paint Poisoning

"Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs NOT ACCEPTED"
* Selecting "creeped" at the end of the email reveals a touching moment between Homestar and Marzipan.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' {''Lying in bed with a light bulb next to his head, crying''} Lonnnng paaaannnts!
*:'''MARZIPAN:''' Awww, there there, Homestar. It's not so bad. Everybody thinks I'm a broom.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Sits up suddenly, surprised}'' You're not a broom?

== Other Hidden Stuff ==
* When you hover over a fortune cookie, it says "You are not as good as most people" before it is completely unraveled.

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*[[Wikipedia:Daisy Duke|Daisy Dukes]] are extremely short cut-offs, so named for the character from [[Wikipedia:The Dukes of Hazzard|The Dukes of Hazzard]] television show that wore them.

===Trivia===
* This is the first time Strong Bad has lowered his upper eyelids.
*This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in [[techno]].

=== Remarks ===
*This is also the first time that Homestar wears pants outside of a [[Holiday Toons|Holiday Toon]].
*Perhaps Strong Bad doesn't answer the original question because we already found out why Homestar doesn't wear pants in an Easter Egg to [[monument]]. Homestar was distracted by the [[Thnikkaman]] and never wound up putting pants on.
* The floppy disk in the [[Floppy Disk Container]] on Strong Bad's desk reads, "fiendish freddy's".

=== Goofs ===
*Although Strong Bad puts pressure onto the Lappy's screen when trying to rub off the marker and when applying the white out, no ripples pop up on the screen.
*After he clears the screen and starts writing about the age old question, Homestar comes in. You can clearly see the text the whole time Homestar is there, but when Homestar leaves and Strong Bad turns back to the Lappy, it's gone.
*The Klown Kare easter egg (by clicking on the socket) can still be clicked in the same location on the screen when the scene moves around.
*The fortune cookie easter egg fortunes say "You are not as good as most people." before they open up.
*When Homestar appears close-up to the camera, if you zoom in, you can see that the disk label is slightly garbled, like it would be in a JPEG file. This is because it actually IS a JPEG being used to show both Homestar and the part of the background placed behind him, as the JPEG format does not allow for transparency.
**Additionally, the image appears to be displayed slightly above its proper location.

=== Inside References ===
*Edga Jr. is a reference to the e-mail [[virus]], where his ambiguous relation, [[Edgarware|Edgar]], created Strong Bad's virus protection program. Also, whereas Edgarware was made in "mom's basement", Edga Jr. was made seven years later in "mom's sewing room".
*The "light pen" is based on the one from [[haircut]] - there, it was a black marker.
*Homestar's pixellated form is from [[Main Page 13]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
*The business card easter egg makes reference to the [[Tragic Clown Dog]] from [[part-time job]].
*Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Marzipan's line about people thinking she's a broom (Along with Homestar's response) is a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] where Homestar leaves a message calling Marzipan an "old broomstick".
*Homestar squatting on the computer desk could be seen to resemble the [[Jhonka]] or the character Gollum from the Lord of the Rings novels and movies.
*The noise made by Homestar's glowing pants is used often in [[Stinko Man]] cartoons.

=== Real-World References ===
* Strong Bad throwing cue cards away during the intro song is a reference to the music video for Subterranean Homesick Blues by Bob Dylan.
* The [[Wikipedia:Light Pen|light pen]] was an input device that would make an EGA or CGA monitor into a touch screen of sorts. You touched a light sensor to the screen, and it would calculate a position by sensing the 'flicker' of the monitor's cathode ray. A light pen could never work with Strongbad's lappy, since LCD displays do not flicker.
* Parachute Pants are large billowy pants which come in at the waist and ankles with snug elastic bands.
*[[Wikipedia:Adam West| Adam West]] is an actor best known for his role as [[Batman]] on the campy '60s TV show. The Batman costume has tights with briefs over them, so Batman does not wear pants, either.
* The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail127.html|watch "long pants"]]
* [[HR:sbemail127.swf|view the Flash file for "long pants"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2496 forum thread re: "long pants"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]] [[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]]

long pants

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 04:47:23 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Trivia */

[[Image:sbemail127.png|thumb|Light globes]]
'''Strong Bad Email #127'''

The answer to why Homestar doesn't wear pants is finally answered...almost.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Marzipan]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar's House]] (Easter Egg)

'''Date:''' March 28, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:04

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' And if I email you, girl! Woman! ''{He holds up pieces of paper that say "Girl." and "Woman." as he says those words}'' Oh, won't you email me, girl? Woman? ''{He holds up the papers again. Then he brings up the email:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why doesn't homestar ever wear pants? It's kind of
creepy how he walks around with no pants on all the time.
Anyway, I think you should get him some pants, maybe some
parachute pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or maybe
some clown pants, I don't care, just get him some pants!
Tootles!
Clancy

''{Strong Bad skips everything between "Anyway" and "I don't care" and, instead, says "Blabbity blah, blah blebbity bloo". He also pronounces "Tootles" as "Toot-less" and "Clancy" as "Clanky".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, ''{begins typing}'' Too long, Clanky, too looong! Good thing you didn't indent, man, or this never woulda made it past my 2nd paragraph filter: ''{types 'run "Edga Jr."'}'' Edga Jr.

''{The splash screen for "Edga Jr. The Long Email Killa Filta" comes up}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, look at him. He's one o' dem red-haireded rapscalli... wags. ''{returns to the email}'' Well, I think we can salvage this one with a little editing. Let me once again call upon the services of my trusty, somewhat dusty, electronic light-pen input high-tech expensive device! Now in HD! ''{he pulls out a correction pen having the words "X-PENSIVE WHITE" and shakes it}'' Just have to shake up the... expensive electrons here. All set! So, let's see! ''{he mumbles and says}'' Such a high-tech device... ''{as he whites out the words, producing:}''

Dear Strongbad,
Why <s>doesn't homestar ever</s> wear pants? <s>It's kind of</s>
creepy <s>how he walks around with no</s> pants <s>on</s> all the time.
<s>Anyway, I think you should</s> get <s>him</s> some <s>pants,</s> maybe <s>some</s>
parachute <s>pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or</s> maybe
<s>some</s> clown <s>pants, I don't</s> care, <s>just get him</s> some <s>p</s>ants!
Toot<s>les!</s>
Clancy

'''STRONG BAD:''' There! Now let's see what we got! ''{re-reads the altered email}'' Dear Strongbad, Why wear pants? Creepy pants all the time get some. Maybe parachute, maybe clown care. Some ants toot! Clanky. ''{begins typing}'' Now ''there's'' an email worth answering! Some ants toot. Tee-hee! ''{clears screen, but the correction fluid remains}'' So, why wear pants? An age old question. Was it not Adam West who once said, "E-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Hey, Strong Bad! ''{camera pans back to show Homestar wearing very short purple pants}'' Check out my creepy pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking away}'' Ew, Homestar! What're you wearing them Daisy Dukes for?!

''{Homestar's pants shine.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 'Cuz you said, "creepy pants all the time get some."

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get some what?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Light globes?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Light globes.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You know, like in a lamp! Light globes! ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So... you put on hotpants in the hopes of getting some lightbulbs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Globes. ''{his pants shine again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, since you're here, let's talk about your pants. Or your lack thereof. Daisy Dukes aside.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What are you talking about, Strong Bad? I wear long pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... no, from what I can tell, you wear ''no'' pants and have blue soles glued to the bottoms of your feet. ''{indicates Homestar's feet}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, that's simply not true. I have long pants, I wear long pants. I'm a long pants man, long pants, long pants! ''{starts getting upset and dances around}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, calm down... I didn't mean to-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{jumps high into the air, and convulses on Strong Bad's desk}'' Long pants, Strong Bad! The longest pants! Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ''{starts teleporting around the room, first appearing in front of Strong Bad, then leaning in behind him, then hanging upside down from the ceiling, then pixellated on the Lappy's screen, then blurred in the very foreground, then upside down under the desk, then in his original position, all while chanting the following}'' Long long long long long long pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, that's it! We need to get you some serious clown care, man!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But I was told long pants! Long pants! They said long pants! Always long pants! ''{leans toward Strong Bad}'' Long, my pants! Gleaming pants! Glorious pants! ''{runs away, leaving his pants behind. They fall on Strong Bad's foot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bleh! Egh! BLEEEGGEHHEGH!

''{He attempts to shake the pants off. He eventually does, and The Cheat appears stage left to burn them to a crisp with the [[BMW Lighter]].}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{says something}''

''{The Cheat leaves, and Strong Bad turns back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Noice work, Clanky. You made Homestar go nuts and you've seriously creeped me out. And how am I supposed to get this crap offa here? ''{Everything starting with the "t" in "get" is obscured by the dried correction fluid. Strong Bad grabs a cloth and attempts to wipe the correction fluid off the screen, to no avail. He mutters:}'' Stupid... made-up technology... that I made up... Light pen... ''{mumbles}'' The Cheat! Call tech support and tell 'em you broke the Lappy again!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Selecting "Why wear pants" will bring up some fortune cookies, similar to those in the old [[Fortune Cookies]] game. As you hover the cursor over each one, it brings up a sentence of Strong Bad's "improved" email.
* Clicking on the socket under the table after Strong Bad says "Clown Care" brings up a business card for the service, [[Kertified Klown Kare]]. It reads:
Kertified
Klown Kare

-Pie Injuries
-Giant Foot Problems
-Wacky Malaria
-Grease Paint Poisoning

"Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs NOT ACCEPTED"
* Selecting "creeped" at the end of the email reveals a touching moment between Homestar and Marzipan.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' {''Lying in bed with a light bulb next to his head, crying''} Lonnnng paaaannnts!
*:'''MARZIPAN:''' Awww, there there, Homestar. It's not so bad. Everybody thinks I'm a broom.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Sits up suddenly, surprised}'' You're not a broom?

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*[[Wikipedia:Daisy Duke|Daisy Dukes]] are extremely short cut-offs, so named for the character from [[Wikipedia:The Dukes of Hazzard|The Dukes of Hazzard]] television show that wore them.

=== Trivia ===
*This is the first time Strong Bad has lowered his upper eyelids.
*This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in [[techno]].

=== Remarks ===
*Homestar has been known to wear pants for certain [[Holiday Toons]].
*This is also the first time that Homestar wears pants outside of a Holiday Toon.
*Perhaps Strong Bad doesn't answer the original question because we already found out why Homestar doesn't wear pants in an Easter Egg to [[monument]]. Homestar was distracted by the [[Thnikkaman]] and never wound up putting pants on.
*They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway.
**He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"
* This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.
* The floppy disk in the [[Floppy Disk Container]] on Strong Bad's desk read, "fiendish freddy's".

=== Goofs ===
*Although Strong Bad puts pressure onto the Lappy's screen when trying to rub off the marker and when applying the white out, no ripples pop up on the screen.

*Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*After he clears the screen and starts writing about the age old question, Homestar comes in. you can clearly see the text the whole time Homestar is there, but when Homestar leaves and Strong Bad turns back to the Lappy, it's gone.

*The Klown Kare easter egg (by clicking on the socket) can still be clicked in the same location on the screen when the scene moves around.

*The fortune cookie easter egg fortunes say "You are not as good as most people." before they open up.

*When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*When Homestar appears close-up to the camera, if you zoom in, you can see that the disk label is slightly garbled, like it would be in a JPEG file. This is because it actually IS a JPEG being used to show both Homestar and the part of the background placed behind him, as the JPEG format does not allow for transparency.
**Additionally, the image appears to be displayed slightly above its proper location.

=== Inside References ===
*Edga Jr. is a reference to the e-mail [[virus]], where his ambiguous relation, [[Edgarware|Edgar]], created Strong Bad's virus protection program.
**Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], one of the things the [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.
**Edgarware was made in "mom's basement", Edga Jr. was made seven years later in "mom's sewing room".
*The "light pen" is based on the one from [[haircut]] - there, it was a black marker.
*Homestar's pixellated form is from [[Main Page 13]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
*The business card easter egg makes reference to the [[Tragic Clown Dog]] from [[part-time job]].
*Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Marzipan's line about people thinking she's a broom (Along with Homestar's response) is a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] where Homestar leaves a message calling Marzipan an "old broomstick".
*Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".
*Homestar squatting on the computer desk could be seen to resemble the [[Jhonka]].

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Wikipedia:Adam West| Adam West]] is an actor best known for his role as [[Batman]] on the campy '60s TV show.
* Strong Bad's holding cue cards at the beginning of the email could be a reference to the video for Bob Dylan's "Subterranean Homesick Blues".
* Homestar popping up in different places may be a reference to a scene in the Teen Titans episode "Fractured." When Nosyarg Kcid is nicknamed "Larry" by Beast Boy, he starts popping up in various places, shouting his nickname. The 2600 Homestar could be a reference to Larry's split-second transformation into Golden-Age Robin during that scene.
* Parachute Pants are large billowy pants which come in at the waist and ankles with snug elastic bands.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail127.html|view "long pants"]]
* [[HR:sbemail127.swf|view the Flash file for "long pants"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2496 forum thread re: "long pants"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]] [[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] [[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]] [[Category: The Cheat Filmography]] [[Category: Marzipan Filmography]]

User talk:Homeschool Winner

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:51:25 GMT

Homeschool Winner: Discussion Page

== Discussion Page ==

Feel free to drone on and on about how awesome I am!

User:Homeschool Winner

Homeschool Winner — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:08:06 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

Hey! My real name is Isaac Buchoff, and I'm a huge Homestar fan! My favorite character is [[Gavin]] and [[Homestar Jr.]] is pretty cool too, but the funniest of 'em all is by far the famous [[Homestar Runner]]!! Without Homestar, Strong Bad emails have a limit of how hysterical they can be, but you know that it can go anywhere once Homestar pops in! The great thing is, he's getting more clever while maintaining his insane stupidity. I'm proud to say that I've attended the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] and would gladly answer any question about it that you put on my discussion page. I waited for hours outside with my girlfriend, my mom, and [[User:Tom]]. It was awesome. I am a proud owner of a Homestar skullcap (handmade in Israel) and this concludes my dull, time-wasting profile.
[[Image:skullcap.png]]
[[Image:Isaac with TBC.jpeg|thumb|My girlfriend and me with the Brothers Chaps]]

User:Homeschool Winner

Homeschool Winner — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:06:11 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

User:Homeschool Winner

Homeschool Winner — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:05:44 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

Hey! My real name is Isaac Buchoff, and I'm a huge Homestar fan! My favorite character is [[Gavin]] and [[Homestar Jr.]] is pretty cool too, but the funniest of 'em all is by far the famous [[Homestar Runner]]!! Without Homestar, Strong Bad emails have a limit of how hysterical they can be, but you know that it can go anywhere once Homestar pops in! The great thing is, he's getting more clever while maintaining his insane stupidity. I'm proud to say that I've attended the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] and would gladly answer any question about it that you put on my discussion page. I waited for hours outside with my girlfriend, my mom, and [[User:Tom]]. It was awesome. I am a proud owner of a Homestar skullcap (handmade in Israel) and this concludes my dull, time-wasting profile. [[Image:skullcap.png]]

Click to see me with TBC: [[Media:file:///Users/isaacbuchoff/Desktop/Homestar%20Stuff/Homestar%20at%20NYU%20Pictures/P1010079.jpg]]

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Homeschool Winner — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:54:21 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

User talk:Homeschool Winner

Homeschool Winner — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:51:28 GMT

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Homeschool Winner — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:15:10 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

Hey! My real name is Isaac Buchoff, and I'm a huge Homestar fan! My favorite character is [[Gavin]] and [[Homestar Jr.]] is pretty cool too, but the funniest of 'em all is by far the famous [[Homestar Runner]]!! Without Homestar, Strong Bad emails have a limit of how hysterical they can be, but you know that it can go anywhere once Homestar pops in! The great thing is, he's getting more clever while maintaining his insane stupidity. I'm proud to say that I've attended the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] and would gladly answer any question about that you put on my discussion page. I waited for hours outside with my girlfriend, my mom, and [[Tom]]. It was awesome. I am a proud owner of a Homestar skullcap (handmade in Israel) [[Image:skullcap.png]] and this concludes my dull, time-wasting profile.

Marzipan Evolution

Homeschool Winner — Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:42:54 GMT

Homeschool Winner:

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Info !! Created !! Appearances !! What's Changed?
|-
| http://img56.exs.cx/img56/9531/mar18dp.jpg || Marzipan's first look || 1999 || [[She Loves Me!]], [[Old Characters Page]] || N/A
|-
|| [[Image:marzipanreddishradish.png|220px]] || Marzipan's model in "The Reddest Radish" || 2000 || [[The Reddest Radish]] || A hand drawn version of Marzipan, for "The Reddest Radish"
|-
| http://img56.exs.cx/img56/6236/mar20fh.jpg || Third design || 2000 || [[Theme Song Video]], [[Homestarloween Party]], [[A Holiday Greeting]], [[The Luau]], [[A Jorb Well Done]] || Bells on her dress are bigger, dress is darker, thinner head, uneven eyes, longer and darker hair.
|-
| [[Image:marzipan.png|180px]] || Current design || 2002 || [[Where's The Cheat?]] to current || Neck shorter, eyes smaller, dress and hairbow darker, more advanced shading, glossier forehead.

[[Category: Character Variations]]

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

Homeschool Winner — Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:28:03 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* NYU Demo */

I fixed a couple of spelling errors: "parodys" > "parodies", and changed "cinema" to "cinematic". Just so you guys know I wasn't fixing the transcripted stuff. - MHG

== Where did it go? ==
It is gone... it dissapeared...
== Can I be the first to say "COOL!" ==

TBC have really done it this time! Great music, title screen, but now on the Fanstuf wiki we need to call him 1-up, not Kidstar. sigh... - [[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]]

==Like Zero Wing in 2 Ways==
This game reminds me of Zero Wing in two ways.
1. Translating errors (fake in this game, obviously)
2. Long levels with no check points. I can't get past the first level in either game. Every time you die, no matter how far you are in the level, you go back to the beginning. And you can't save in the middle either. --[[User:152.163.101.8|152.163.101.8]] 14:59, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Man, this is ''hard''!==
Holy Crap! This game is so hard (to me) it blows my mind! Tough jumps, no checkpoints, the works! I can't even beat level 1.2! Arrrrgh! ...Whew. Glad I got that outta my system. On a lighter note, this is a great game, if not a bit hard. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

==Difficultly fun==
This game is hard, but I found it fun. I guess I'm good a video games or something, because although I was challenged, I beat the whole game in under an hour. Can't wait for more levels. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Indeed... more levels seem an inevitability (why else do they have scroll buttons in the "CONTINUTE" menu?). As for the difficulty... well, let's just say it reflects the ''Mega Man'' series in more ways than one. ;) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::The Brothers Chaps captured the oldschool Mega Man feel better than I would have expected. I hope they don't get sued by Capcom! [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:51, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==BEAT THAT!==
I beat the whole game (Stage 1.1 to 3.3) in 19 minutes without a single game over. Can anyone beat that? (I did lose two lives though) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

== Am I the only one... ==

...who can't get the plain .SWF working? I can play the game (beat it not too long ago, good game, can't wait for the expansion packs-of-sorts), but only using the standard link. I can't play it online or offline using just the .SWF file. Firefox stays perpetually on "Load it up". IE6 gets farther than that, as it goes to a black screen after that and never gets out. So... anyone else? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:26, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I couldn't get the .swf file loading on my computer. It would just stay a blank black screen. The regular game worked fine, though. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:15, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
It's working for me in IE, but in Firefox it just stays on the loading screen. edit: actually, offline it doesn't work on either. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 11:31, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Is the game meant to...==
Drop you into a giant hole at the beginning of Level 1.1? The game loads up, but as soon as I click play game, I get dropped into a pit until I die 3 times. Any ideas, or is it whatever glitched up [[virus]] for me? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:36, 22 Mar 2005
*I hear on Fark that it depends on your browser. Try switching to another. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
**This happened to me too, while running IE. I tried Mozilla and it worked. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Thank you, but annoyingly enough, I can't install any alternative browser. My administrator believes that they let in viruses. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:52, 22 Mar 2005
***I had the same problem, except for me the bug happened in Opera but it worked in IE. --JZ
*Found the problem (for me at least), in Version 1.1, there's a little notice saying "Flash 7 Required". I only have Flash 6. I wonder why TBC didn't go for the full screen message, a la [[Duck Guardian]]. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 06:30, 22 Mar 2005

==Music==
If anyone could find the game's music files, I'd be much obliged. That was my favorite part. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:47, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Same here, I was listening to it whilst working on assignments, but I found that if you open up the game and start, leave it for about half an hour without doing anything, the music just stops and doesn't come back unless you lose a life. [[User:M.J|M.J]]

== NYU Demo ==

At the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] they showed an awesome demo to this, and as I recall, I think the sporks from 2.2 were originally in 1.1 and 1.2. The first two levels that TBC made were 1.1 and 3.1.--[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 21:28, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== JoyToKey (This is a little OT) ==

Anyone with a joypad needs to download [http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA016823/joytokey/english.html JoyToKey]. It's especially important for this game; really adds to the feel. Total, man. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:00, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Capsules ==

*The health-restoring pills are a reference to the Strong Bad E-Mail time capsule.
** They are also a reference to the Scrolling Shooter Games Menu, where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.

Tons of games have capsules and it's doubtful this is an inside reference. Didn't the original Megaman hae capsules? Granted they looked different, but I don't think this is a reference to [[time capsule]], and I think it's a coincidence that the games menu also has capsules. What's next, someone chimes in with "It may be a reference to Dr. Mario"? Sorry, I'm over-analytical so I'll keep it since others may not agree with me on this. If anyone else does though, maybe we should take this to [[STUFF]]. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:07, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Although I'm not sure about the games menu reference anymore, I do believe it's a reference to time capsule because:
*They are identical looking
*In time capsule, the pill gave him an energy boost.

== About the Gas stoves... ==

What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. Any oil lamps in Free Country? well, I just thought it necessary to comment. Thanks for reading it.

--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 00:43, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== CONTINUTE? ==

Early on I added a comment about the CONTINUTE item in the main menu being misspelled possibly intentionally, but it was removed in the revision http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6&diff=56256&oldid=56255. This still exists in Version 1.1. I guess this item was removed because it was too obvious, given that the poor translation is already specified? Just wondering.

== this and peasant's quest. ==

in peasant's quest, it seems the cookies expire after you close your browser window.

is there a way to tweak the cookie to not die, or is it supposed to keep active and i just need to adjust cookie settings?

== Continute not working? ==

I got all the way to level 2.2 before I got a Game Over, but the continute button wouldn't work. Is there a problem wth my browser, or maybe a new version of Flash Player I need to get?

== Glitch ==

[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|220px|Stinkoman stand on air!]]
I found a little glitch in the game, just wanted to share :)
It's in Level 1.1, you'll probably recognize the spot. I'm guessing the box for the ledge on the right side passes through the wall.
*Looks like it. I've noticed that before. Looks pretty funny actually.

== Stinkomanual? ==

Am I the only one who can't find this, whatever it is?--[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]

== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:23:58 GMT

Homeschool Winner: NYU Demo

I fixed a couple of spelling errors: "parodys" > "parodies", and changed "cinema" to "cinematic". Just so you guys know I wasn't fixing the transcripted stuff. - MHG

== Can I be the first to say "COOL!" ==

TBC have really done it this time! Great music, title screen, but now on the Fanstuf wiki we need to call him 1-up, not Kidstar. sigh... - [[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]]

==Like Zero Wing in 2 Ways==
This game reminds me of Zero Wing in two ways.
1. Translating errors (fake in this game, obviously)
2. Long levels with no checkpoints. I can't get past the first level in either game. Every time you die, no matter how far you are in the level, you go back to the beginning. And you can't save in the middle either. --[[User:152.163.101.8|152.163.101.8]] 14:59, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Man, this is ''hard''!==
Holy Crap! This game is so hard (to me) it blows my mind! Tough jumps, no checkpoints, the works! I can't even beat level 1.2! Arrrrgh! ...Whew. Glad I got that outta my system. On a lighter note, this is a great game, if not a bit hard. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]

==Difficultly fun==
This game is hard, but I found it fun. I guess I'm good a video games or something, because although I was challenged, I beat the whole game in under an hour. Can't wait for more levels. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Indeed... more levels seem an inevitability (why else do they have scroll buttons in the "CONTINUTE" menu?). As for the difficulty... well, let's just say it reflects the ''Mega Man'' series in more ways than one. ;) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::The Brothers Chaps captured the oldschool Mega Man feel better than I would have expected. I hope they don't get sued by Capcom! [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:51, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==BEAT THAT!==
I beat the whole game (Stage 1.1 to 3.3) in 19 minutes without a single game over. Can anyone beat that? (I did lose two lives though) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

== Am I the only one... ==

...who can't get the plain .SWF working? I can play the game (beat it not too long ago, good game, can't wait for the expansion packs-of-sorts), but only using the standard link. I can't play it online or offline using just the .SWF file. Firefox stays perpetually on "Load it up". IE6 gets farther than that, as it goes to a black screen after that and never gets out. So... anyone else? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:26, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I couldn't get the .swf file loading on my computer. It would just stay a blank black screen. The regular game worked fine, though. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:15, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Is the game meant to...==
Drop you into a giant hole at the beginning of Level 1.1? The game loads up, but as soon as I click play game, I get dropped into a pit until I die 3 times. Any ideas, or is it whatever glitched up [[virus]] for me? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:36, 22 Mar 2005
*I hear on Fark that it depends on your browser. Try switching to another. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
**This happened to me too, while running IE. I tried Mozilla and it worked. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Thank you, but annoyingly enough, I can't install any alternative browser. My administrator believes that they let in viruses. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:52, 22 Mar 2005
***I had the same problem, except for me the bug happened in Opera but it worked in IE. --JZ

==Music==
If anyone could find the game's music files, I'd be much obliged. That was my favorite part. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:47, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== NYU Demo ==

At the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] they showed an awesome demo to this, and as I recall, I think the sporks from 2.2 were originally in 1.1 and 1.2. The first two levels that TBC made were 1.1 and 3.1.

Stinkoman 20X6

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:14:53 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:stinkogame.png|thumb|Stinkoman runs right]]

''Blue hair, anyone? Stinkoman's always got fightings and challenges to keep him busy. Jump and shoot your way to all ends of Planet K. End Boss feature!!'' --[[Videlectrix]] description

'''Stinkoman 20X6'''
is a side-scrolling platformer game which stars [[Stinkoman]].

[[The Brothers Chaps]] showed it off at [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|their talk at NYU]]. This game seems to be based on the [[Wikipedia:Mega Man Classic|classic Capcom ''Mega Man'' series]]. It also parodies the poor "Japanese to English" translations (a.k.a. "[[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]") common to video games of that era, similiar to those that appear on the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|current Games Menu]].

Below is the text that appears in the introduction sequence:
<pre>
On Planet K, Stinkoman is always
looking for a fighting or a challenge.
In 20X6, he can usually find one!
</pre>

== Stinkomanual ==
STINKOMAN
20X6

Instruction
Stinkomanual Videlectrix

'''Welcome to Stinkoman GAME!'''
Stinkoman is trying very hard to win this exciting challenge! Only YOU can help him. Keep striving until you REACH YOUR GOALS or you'll be stuck with the same dead end friends you've had since HIGH SCHOOL. This game will prove a challenge...

''...but can you prove it back?!?!''

'''The Story'''
STINKOMAN and his pals 1-UP and PAN PAN live on Planet K in the year 20X6. This game is all about that. Don't expect any weepy princess crap, this is a STINKOMAN game! Or at least it was last time we checked! Maybe fighting? Maybe challenge?
THE CHOICE IS OURS!!

'''The Controls'''
This game keeps using ARROW KEYS to move Stinkoman around. It won't stop making him JUMP with the A key or SHOOT with the S key, either. You won't find this kind of quality in other countries!!

'''Level 1 - Go Home!'''

Stinkoman fighted a challenge and WINS! Help him get back home for some face treats.

JARO - A bouncing cup, Jaro will hop around until he's punded you down!

GREGGO - This robot will become indestructible if you stare at him. Shoot, jive, GET OUTA THE WAY!

POORU-POORU - This punk cucumber is no cactus! Land on one and it's DOINK for you!

CHORCH - A flying mecha with pinching fingers, Chorc will make you were never enven born!!

BROWNTANT - This little robot is no mecha. He'll shoot you down with his mecha antenna! Takes a lickin!

'''Boss 1 - TAMPO'''

Tampo is as mean as he is delicious! Stinkoman already beat Tampo before you started playing the game only now his brain has decided to get revenge! Dodge his attacks and shoot him or yo'll never amount to anything

''"I wish I still had a lungs!"
-Tampo '89''

'''Level 2 - Pick a Bone!'''

Stinkoman found a chicken bone in his dumpling soup. Battle throughout the kitchen for revenge!

TERRELL - A baby chick with no body? That's freaky. Balst em up Dan!

ROSE BLAKE - A 'Lectric burner with a taste for human flesh!

KOLKARYU - A UFO that zips in and is always shooting at you. I honestly don't think you can kill it.

GRUNDY - A jogging chicken? That has to be a bold faced lie.

LUNDSFORD - Natural gas is the name of the game when Lundsford is in town. Learn his habits, have him followed, hunt down his family.

STOBAT - The fattest chicken plays fly, hocking up old bones. Stay outta range and BLAMMO: Stobat tenders.

OLD SAGE - These are sharp tips! They'll kill ya dead! DEAD I SAY!

TORTAN - Tortan is a drippy bottle of poisonous Tortan. Don't drink! Is no good for you!

''"I am waiting a good while for you to help me win this game! What's the hold up? Help me out already!"
-Stinkoman''

'''Boss 2 - Brody'''

Brody is stompin' mad! Keep from squished, ya know? Shoot him in the eye when he tries to come in for the kill. You're not chicken, are you?

''"My feet are orange feet."
-BRODY, FL''

'''Level 3 - Up 'n Down'''

Stinkoman goes up, up, up and then down, down
down

CLOWDER - Steer clear of this crotchety old cloud. He won't die and doesn't say hello.

MR. UBBERS - A rain drop that releases golden nuggets when punched. Go for the GOLD!

'''Level 3 - Up 'n Down'''

Stinkoman loves BREAD, but boy does he hate SOAP, APPLES, EARS and P's.
Falling from the skies and bove.

1 BREAD results in 1 ITEM POINT! SOAP, APPLES, EARS, and P's result in minus 1 ITEM POINT!

EVASIVE ACTION!!

'''Boss 3 - Stlunko'''

Stlunko gonna pound you!! Shoot the wall on top of Stlunko's head to send him packing. His fists hurt you, but you can't hurt thems.

''"Stlunko need a reason to live"
-Stlunko, 404''

'''Giving Up Already?!'''

Stinkoman must be ashamed of you! Get back in the game and try out these rules and hints!!

- play the game every day, even after mom says no 
- new and exciting recipes 
- hold B 
- ask your parents 
- walk and talk 
- table the label! wear your own brand!

== Easter Eggs ==
* Hover your mouse below "Controls" on the main menu to access the Instruction Booklet.
* Wait long enough at the title screen to see an intro cinematic.
* Let Stinkoman stand still in the game for a few seconds and he'll start yawning.

== Bosses ==
* Tampo - Tampo's weak point is the darker colored, lower part of the brain. You can only hit it when it comes near the ground, and you'll need to jump. It starts by coming to the lower right. Stand just in range and shoot it, but make sure you're on the ground when his shots reach you, they shouldn't come close. He will then float to the top-right. You want to be closer to the left edge of the screen to be able to jump this shot. Now run to the right, about mid-screen. Tampo will do the exact same thing on the left, then will return and repeat.
* Brody - Brody tries to stomp you with his feet, but will eventually it will try to peck you with its head. Just shoot Brody's head when it appears. Brody takes 5 hits to kill.
* Stlunko - Stinkoman will ride a conveyor belt on Stlunko while it tries to pound him with its fists. You must shoot at the wall on his head until all of the sections of the wall have been destroyed.

== Fun Facts ==

=== Trivia ===
* This game is the first official mention of the 20X6 version of Homestar Runner's actual name, 1-Up.
* This is the first time we have seen Stinkoman's house,or any 20X6 character's house, for that matter.

=== Remarks ===
* In the bottom right-hand corner of the PLAY GAME! screen it says "V1.0 EPISODES 1-3", possibly hinting at a sequel.
* CONTINUE is possibly intentionally misspelled as "CONTINUTE" on the main menu.
* When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!"

=== Goofs ===
*To get energy pills that are hiding behind enemies without having to kill the enemy, run into the enemy with health to spare. You will take damage, grab the pill and will be invincible long enough to escape unharmed.
*When you run right and jump, you will flip as if you were running left and jumping.
*If you fall long enough and don't touch anything, Stinkoman will stop doing his falling pose and act like he's standing and will even start to yawn. Such a long fall can be found in stage 2.2.

=== Inside References ===
* "Check out my new gameplay!" is a reference to Stinkoman's quote "Check out my new cosplay!" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
* This is the second appearance of Strong Bad's green tongue. In the "Game Over" screen, Stinkoman's green tongue is shown. It also appeared in [[Super NES]].
**Although Stinkoman's tongue is red or pink all other times you see it in the game.
* The nuggets in Level 3.1 are a reference to [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] Character Video.
* Level 3.2 reveals that Stinkoman hates apples, just as Strong Bad does in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]]
* The health-restoring pills are a reference to the Strong Bad E-Mail [[time capsule]].
* Grundy's illustration in the manual shows him running in a manner similar to a certain [[Homestar Runner|no-armed whitey]].
* Stlunko, the level 3 boss, has a striking resemblence to the [[Visor Robot]] from [[Everybody to the Limit]].

=== Real-World References ===
* The sprites used for Stinkoman are patterned after 8-bit Megaman sprites.
** In fact, the poses the white sihouette in the logo are taken directly fron the NES Megaman series.
* The cinematic sequences may be an extended reference to the Ninja Gaiden series for the NES.
* Stlunko, 404 is a reference to the 404 error that browsers give when a webpage cannot be found.
* Stlunko, the final boss, could very well be modeled after the final boss in the Donkey Kong game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* Hold B is a reference to Super Mario Bros games (and maybe others) where if you held down B, you would run faster.
* Stinkoman doing a forward flip may be a reference to the Metroid series, where Samus does very similar flips.
* The fading blue boxes around Stinkoman's face on the title screen are a reference to large NES sprites, which sometimes had a similar problem.
* The first boss, Tampo, may be a reference to the final boss of Star Fox 64, which was the giant brain of the enemy, in which you had to attack its medulla.
* The bad grammar used in this game suggest that it originated somewhere away from America, most likely Japan, and was badly translated.

== External Links ==
* [http://www.homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.html Play Stinkoman 20X6]
* [http://www.homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf Play the Game (flash file)]
[[Category:Videlectrix Games]][[Category:20X6]]

HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive

Homeschool Winner — Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:23:43 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Marzipan a Vegetarian?(declined) */

The following fun facts have gone through the [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]] process.

This is an archive of the discussion of said fun facts.

== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ==

=== Marzipan a Vegetarian?(declined) ===

Marzipan saying she would cook Homestar's goose isnt reasonable, since Marzipan is a vegetarian.

*'''decline-''' We all know marzipan is a vegetarian, and cook someones goose isnt about food, why is this even here? (sorry for not signing, my first time,[[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' (But sign your vote!) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:11, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
**I gotta '''Second''' this. Sorry. [[User:thatkidsam|dark_predator! okay, fine... thatkidsam]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:27, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' Vegetarians say phrases like this all the time, it doesn't make them unreasonable. --[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 00:35, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' It is a saying that has nothing to do with literally cooking goose. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:47, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's just a saying, and besides, vegetarians such as I have no problem saying sayings about meat --[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]]

=== Aught Four Crap(declined) ===

Bubs's "aught four crap" is a reference to old comics, where Strong Bad inexplicably pronounces '04 as "aught-four", at the very end of the email. Hence, Bubs's aught-four crap is most likely all the stuff he never sold in the entirety of 2004.

*'''decline''' This should be nixed, "aught four" just means 04, it isnt a reference to "old comics" it is just an old timey way to say "oh-four" this isnt a reference to something strong bad says, this is just a phrase that two different chracters said. [[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''second''' Apologies, I had never heard "aught-four" before in my life (or aught-anything, for that matter) and thought it had been invented by Strong Bad on the spur of the moment. Go ahead and delete it if it's not considered a reference to the e-mail. --Sokko
*'''Accept.''' Although it is an accepted term, it's very rarely used (and isn't technically correct). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise''' - I've never heard "aught four" before, and if Strong Bad says it somewhere else then it is, as far as I'm concerned, a good enough reason to include. [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:17, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**In English, "aught" means zero. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:45, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''decline''' It's just another way of saying '04; it didn't originate on this site nor is it a specific reference to anything else. If he'd said "oh-four," this wouldn't even be an issue. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:42, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**But he didn't say "oh four", he said "aught four", which is actually pretty archaic and extremely uncommon. It's no coincidence that it was also said by Strong Bad in [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' - I though Aught Four was Naught Four without the N. -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' I've heard people say that all the time!
*'''Info:''' 'Aught is an old way of saying ''naught'', an old term that means ''zero'' or ''nothing''. It is still used in physics and chemistry when a variable has a zero as a subscript. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:04, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)

=== "Oh cwap" vs "I say.."(declined) ===

Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to [[The King Of Town DVD]], when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."
*'''Uber-decline''' That is the one of the biggest stretches ever. [[user:super orange!|super orange! the lone/first voter!]]
**'''Uber-Second''' even if you thought that was so, Homestar says "I say" three times in the KoT dvd, and Homestar says "Oh cwap!" '''four''' times
** D'oh! Well the connection positively jumped out at me and smacked me in the face--I think of it every time I see it. [[User:socetew|socetew]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== Broken phone(declined) ===

Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/51/ Salad Fingers] Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/39/ rusty metal], this might be intentional.

*'''Decline.''' I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Decline.''' Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
*'''Decline.''' It's more than likely a reference to [[replacement]] rather than salad fingers. -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**i agree about it being a refrens to replasment and have never herd of "saled fingers"
**But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips
***Because it implies poor quality? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Because it's in a box of useless stuff that Bubs didn't manage to sell. No one is going to buy a rusty steak knife, or electrical tape, or a banana with a toy arrow stabbed through the center. -- [[User: Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
*'''Decline.''' Considering that the Coach Z scene consists of him talking on a broken phone, eating a T.V dinner, and having his power go out due to him not paying the bill, I think its quite clear that the joke is about Coach Z being used to having busted crap. Salad Fingers didn't invent the idea of rusted metal.
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== Has what it takes(declined) ===

Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.

*'''Decline.''' Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' Seems like I've heard a reference to him as "captain of the team" or something similar before.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:30, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Second-[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --[[user:super orange!|super orange!]]
*'''Decline''' This just sounds like the way he talks. That line could just as easily refer to his attempts to recruit members into the Homestarmy "Do you has what it takes...?" and so on.--[[User:clhinton|clhinton]]
i agree about homestarmy

=== Garfield X-mas(declined) ===

Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302596/ Garfield Christmas Special], in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."

*I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of Xmas decorations immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]]. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

*That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
**Second. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam strikes again!]]
***This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second''' [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:20, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
** Ah, but the inflection and wording of the quote are, as far as I know. Okay, SB didn't use EXACTLY the same wording, but his inflection and the general sentiment - sans punchline - were the same. --[[User:68.196.82.110|68.196.82.110]] 22:15, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
*** (Oh, the above was written by me. My parents' computer keeps bumping my "logged in" status and I forget to check.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:59, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
***The wording of the two quotes aren't the same. They're poles apart. Compare: "Decemberween isn't about getting people presents. It's about getting people good presents." And: "Christmas: it's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving." What similarity is there between the two? --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' For reasons stated by Upsilon that are too numerous to second each one. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:49, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Candy Cane(declined) ===

The candy cane in Coach Z's locker room is from the [[Decemberween In July]] menu.

*'''Decline.''' The same candy cane can be seen elsewhere on the site, including [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailxmas.html 'SBemail Xmas Menu'] and one could equally mention that the lights in Marzipan's hair are identical to those present on the two aforementioned menus...along with any other object that appears in [[Homestar Presents: Presents|this toon]] and a previous one. --[[User:The_Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' More importantly, this isn't very interesting. People should make sure that the first response to their facts isn't "So what?" --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

=== Egg Nog Glass(declined) ===
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Dripping Sound(declined) ===
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Alms for the poor(declined) ===

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== Marzipan's Purse(declined) ===
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== Screentime(declined) ===

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No matter how popular he is the website's called homestarrunner.com not thecheat.com.
**'''Complain!'''Nitpicky, ain't we? Who cares? '''ACCEPT!''' Just to shut you ip [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

=== Homestar always confuses have and has(declined) ===
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== Alms for the Pudgy(declined) ===

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

=== 1 on 1(declined) ===

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

=== Electrical Tape?(declined) ===

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
*'''Accept.''' If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom.

== [[Malloween Commercial]] ==

=== Mallowcremes(declined) ===

"[[Fluffy Puff Malloweens|Malloweens]]" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.

*'''Decline.''' It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 20:56, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:18, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

== [[Decemberween Kids' Book]] ==

=== Magic Ball #1(declined) ===

The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the ''Palantir'' from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.

=== Magic Ball #2(declined) ===

The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.

=== Magic Ball #3(declined) ===

Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.
*'''Decline.''' I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' SB's magic ball only burns flesh when it glows, which doesn't apply to any of the above. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

== [[impression]] ==

=== Elephant Slippers(declined) ===

When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.

*'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 20:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Get it off(declined) ===

Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.

:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think there's really a connection. -- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:15, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

== [[personal favorites]] ==

=== The Beginning and the End(accepted) ===

The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].

*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

== [[anything]] ==

=== Dan Vs. Jerome 2(declined) ===

Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman

*Oddly enough, this has been here for longer than two weeks and no one has voted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:10, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Soda Physics(declined) ===

The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.

*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== E-mail/E-nail & .exe/.com(declined) ===

Instead of typing "run sbemail.exe", Homestar types "run sbenail.com"
--[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]

*I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Freshley's(declined) ===

One of Homestar's shoe box shoes is the same one as in the email "Time Capsule" when he had a "gross old wig".--[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]

*I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Computer or Chalkboard(declined) ===
At first, Homestar seems to think that the computer is a chalkboard. However, after writing his name, he uses it as a regular computer. Also, how does homestar know how to access Strongbad's e-mail? Could it be that he is always, as he says in 100, "behind the black"??? --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]

*I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

== [[Main Page 22]] ==

=== The Old Man Fishin'(declined) ===

When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]

*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]] 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --Yeah, it's already mentioned. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second.'''Pretty obvious. --[[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 13:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==[[the facts]]==

===G'oh!(accepted)===

The way Strong Bad says Jess G.OH's last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"

*'''Accept.''' I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' I suppose... --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
*'''Accept.''' Although, it is a popular phrase for many other TV shows. But that's probably because of The Simpsons.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:32, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this is just Strong Bad being Strong Bad.
*'''agree''' That sure sounds like homer. -Nate
*'''Revise & accept.''' change the word 'is' (in 'is a reference') to 'could be'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

=== Channel 3(declined) ===

The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.

*'''Decline.''' I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' I don't think people in NTSC countries care either. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 17:22, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:seedling|seedling]] 14:14, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
*'''Decline.''' Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Delcine''' Who cares? It's too obvious and not "fun" at all --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Decline''' So what? Video Game Consoles do that too.

=== Homestar's cartoon(declined) ===

The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really ''does'' eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.

*'''Rewrite/Decline.''' I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' More opinion than fact. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Weak Rewrite.''' Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see [http://www.askoxford.com Ox. Engl. Dict.] or [http://dictionary.reference.com dictionary.com]). --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

==[[radio]]==

=== Stop calling me Senator(declined) ===
Strong Sad's calling Strong Bad "Senator" refers to [[Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine_Version_11.2| Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] when he pretends to be Bob... Statesman running for elected official. When Strong Bad calls back later as himself, he talks about Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead's earlier call. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' Sounds plausible, but the last sentence (about his later call) doesn't seem relevant. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second''' My thoughts exactly. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Four-and-twenty stone(declined) ===
1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.

*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe [[TBC]] wouldn't promote marijuana here. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
**Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]]
*'''Decline.''' 'Stone' is referring to weight, so he's probably saying how his voice sounds 'heavier.' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]]
*No vote from me on this, but 420 is the police code for marjuana possesion i believe and that is where the 4:20 comes from, pot smokers have a holiday of sorts on april 20th, and light up at 4:20 pm...not that i would know ,[[User:dimoko|dimoko]] 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline''' That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. "4-and-20" is an old-fashioned way of saying 24, and "stone" is a unit of weight. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Decline''' It is also referring to the adage that the camera (being on TV...) adds 16 pounds. So old-tyme Strong Bad is saying in an old-timey way that the radio makes him sound fat.-[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
Four hundred twenty is not a refernce to the number of chemicals found in marijuana. It is not the time smokers light up. It is the police code for possession, though, and that's where the association of that number with pot smoking comes from. Just my two cents- I don't think that Sir Strong Bad's use of that specific number is any reference to marijuana. Stone is a measure of weight (about twenty pounds I believe) and so the statement is likely a reference to the commonly held superstition among actors that being on TV makes one look fat.

=== The fish was delish(declined) ===
Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.

(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)

*'''Decline.''' It's actually an old broadcasting clich� - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Please see below as I'm adding this as a fact for consideration. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

=== Crackity towel!(declined) ===

Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Ditto.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:42, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Decline''' He's not even saying "crackity towel". He's repeating what Strong Sad said. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Senor Cardgage(declined) ===

Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].

*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second'''ed on both accounts. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If you ever listen to college radio they mumble a bunch and sound unprofessional.--[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:20, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Crackotage(declined) ===

Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]

*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from [[Malloween Commercial]] sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

=== Bruce Almighty(declined) ===

"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."

*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:tompagenet|tompagenet]] 14:24, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Decline!''' "That's the way the cookie crumbles" is a common phrase that originated ages ago, if anything.

=== Plugged in(declined) ===

Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.

*'''Decline.''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

=== Highball!(accepted) ===

The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]

*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --[[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

===The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!===

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''
*sorry i thought this was the next fun fact up. my bad. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

==[[animal]]==

=== Foster's Home(declined) ===
The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, [[Sterrance]], could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, [http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/fosters/index.html Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends]. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.

*Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:Wilbur|Wilbur]] 12:36, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' Guess what? There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin! [[Kevin]] is automatically a reference to this character! Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name! It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name! -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Deep Sea Fangily Fish(declined) ===
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.

*'''Neutral.''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Decline.''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:41, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline''' It's a friggin' ANGLERFISH for crying out loud!!! -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Pikmin thing?(declined) ===
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.

*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]]
*'''Second''' -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*To quote Strong Bad: '''"No no no."''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Speculations, Again(declined) ===
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.

*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

=== Finding Nemo(declined) ===
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.

*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:02, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat
*'''Decline''' How many times must I say, IT'S A FRIGGIN' ANGLERFISH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! (Sorry for yelling) -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Second Wall Breaking(declined) ===
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"

*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Soolnd(declined) ===
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms

*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:03, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== LCD Screen(declined) ===
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.

*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:45, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Ridiculous (declined) ===
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer

*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!
*'''Decline.''' Whoever posted this must be hard of hearing. It's N-E-W Computers! --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Christmas Lights(revised and accepted) ===
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by
[[Decemberween]].</pre>
:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**But.. in [[The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever|The Best Decemberween Pageant Ever]] they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]
***So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Uh, what exactly are you seconding? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]]
*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***"The kids used xmas lights to decorate their dorm room year round." :-) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
**'''Second.''' Else someone needs to say that [http://www.chickfila.com Chick Fil-A] in [[Senor Mortgage]] and [http://www.hardees.com Hardee's] in [[colonization]] were the few references to commercial fast food. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

=== Subject Line, etc.(declined) ===
This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].

*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]'']] 22:05, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' This info is already on the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]

=== Segmented Eyes(declined) ===
"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.

*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept.''' I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is [http://www.google.com/search?as_epq=segmented+eye&as_sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org not a scientific term] at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes.     Even mudskippers (except Muddy) [http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-09/968709436.Zo.r.html don't 'really' have] "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**I'd [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+%22segmented+eyes%22+ try again] if I were you. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly. Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***It's not that they're using some term incorrectly. They're not using the term at all! --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
***Oh, what I meant was about 90% of the links don't use the term, and the rest use it incorrectly. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
****The evidence is [http://www.google.com/search?q=muddy+mudskipper+%22segmented+eyes%3F%22&btnG=Search here] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***I didn't say it's commonly used. When it ''is'' used, it's sometimes used by non-scientists to describe what really should be called compound eyes. See what I mean [http://www.tohokingdom.com/web_pages/kajiu_bios/kamacuras.htm here], [http://www.geocities.com/sonconvoy/review_waspinator.html here] and [http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:R1RBhd8LU6kJ:members.tripod.com/~CAIN7/dgnat.htm++%22segmented+eyes%22+&hl=en here]. I can't find [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ainsectguide.net+%22segmented+eyes%22 any] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awikipedia.org+%22segmented+eyes% credible] [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aentomology.si.edu+%22segmented+eyes%22 evidence] of the term "segmented eyes" being used in a scientific zoological context. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
****You've just given three different contexts ''completely unrelated'' to Ren & Stimpy in which "segmented eyes" is used. Thanks for saving me the trouble of proving my point. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept.''' More than speculation b/c: 1. Term is [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=compound+eye&q2=segmented+eye&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us comparatively rare]; 2. Term is used in correct context, in referring to a crazy animal feature; 3. [http://www.unb.ca/bruns/0203/24/entertainment/homestar.html TBC watch Ren & Stimpy] for inspiration (at bottom of page, best to use browser search), and Muddy is a popular part of the cartoon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** It's not just "comparatively rare", it's actually [http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=%22compound+eye%22&q2=%22segmented+eye%22&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us very rare] --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
**Just because a term is rare doesn't mean it's automatically a reference. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, next thing you know people will be saying The Cheat being rabid in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon is a reference to Old Yeller. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== These Speculations(declined) ===
"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.

*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting. Wanted to run it by others. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Babies havin' babies(declined) ===
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' The phrase refers to teen girls having children - another sign (or symptom) of the "desolation" and "chaos". --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]]

=== check out all my dimensions(declined) ===
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad asking us to "check out" something again does not constitute a reference. --[[User:yeahyeah|yeahyeah]] 21:58, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

==[[virus]]==

=== Bubs' Broken JPEG(declined) ===
Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]]. It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.

*<strike>'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</strike>
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Tch, you're right. Okay, change my vote to a '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== Strong Sad's face(declined) ===
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
[[Wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] he
uses in his [[Wikipedia:blog|blog]],
[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already. Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== One flash file(modified and accepted) ===
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== Oh, a wise guy, eh?(declined) ===
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics. --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this. Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact. This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept'''. TBC have made other [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search Three Stooges references]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' The reference in [[In Search of the Yello Dello|Yello Dello]] seems weak, but in [[lackey]] it's quite clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]

=== Breaking the fourth wall(declined) ===
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== Compy 386?? (page title) (declined) ===
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''

=== Email number(declined) ===
The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.

*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Out in the black ===

''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)''

Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Linux ===

''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to modify and accept.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:33, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)''

[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== Computer Viruses(declined) ===
Computer viruses exist in the real world in addition to cartoons. Norton Anti Virus says I have twelve viruses on my computer right now (a new personal record).
*'''Delete a thousand times over''' This is probably the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire life. Wow... You're a moron. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:19, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know that.
** You're just trolling, aren't you? '''DELETE IT!!''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:36, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*I thought I knew what ridiculous was until this day. '''DELETED!''' --Tom H. (Homesmash Brother)
*'''Delete in an hour''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:16, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Everybody knows that. --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:12, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

== [[montage]] ==

=== Animal House(declined) ===

The ending montage in this e-mail may echo the finale of the National Lampoon film ''Animal House'', when text concerning the characters is displayed in a similar fashion.
*'''Decline.''' This happens in lots of other things too, including "Legally Blonde", "Remember the Titans", etc. My point is, this is not exclusive to "Animal House." -[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]] 09:50, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Too common in comedies. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Accept.''' While this does happen in a lot of movies, using it as the easy-way-out ending for a comedy pretty much began with Animal House, predating its use in other films like Legally Blonde (apparently; I've never seen it) and Fast Times at Ridgemont High. --poogas
*'''Decline.''' Although this kind of montage probably did start with ''Animal House'', this usage of it is probably just a parody of the whole cliche of the "what happened to _________" montage itself, rather than any particular film. (Besides, Animal House just said "[NAME] [GRADUATING CLASS] [FATE]," so this, which uses complete sentences (with lower case) cannot be a direct reference to it. Yes, I'm a geek...) --Jeffrey

=== headphones(declined) ===
When watching the flash file, during the montage of Strong Bad and the wagon falling in love, you can see that the headphones they use to listen to the record player aren't plugged into anything.
*'''Very decline.''' We do not track problems "outside the wall" because they're irrelevant -- [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] didn't intend for you to see that. See the last paragraph of the [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun_Facts|Fun Facts]] section of the Standards document. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 21:14, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 15:44, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== Ain't that a drag? ===

''This discussion is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this section is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to decline.'' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 16:45, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 19:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Absolutely ''not'' interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' and too obvious. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:39, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Coincidence, and nothing more.

== [[little animal]] ==

=== sdrawkcab(declined) ===
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Baleeted!''' Delete! Delete! Delete! It is most definitly an '''optical illusion'''! --66.41.150.114

== [[Shopping for Danger]] ==

=== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends(accepted) ===
The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").

*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' The "Trouble Alert" also showed up in big letters on a huge monitor in the main meeting room. --[[User:miket61|miket61]]

=== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. (declined) ===
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' This isn't a noteworthy fact.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ==

=== Speaking(accepted) ===
This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.

*'''Accept''' Seems noteworthy to me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify.''' That is pretty whack. Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

=== Page title(modified and accepted) ===

The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== Dripping towel noise(declined) ===
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]

=== Locka-room(declined) ===
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]

=== Blue Star Ointment(modified and accepted) ===
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki. TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]

=== Old man remedies (declined) ===
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== Breath-holding skill(declined) ===
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== Philly Cheat Steak(accepted) ===
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these. Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]

=== KoT and SBemail(declined) ===
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' I do. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

=== Humminama What?(declined) ===
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]

=== Creeping Death(declined) ===
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== WEAR FLIP FLOPS.(declined) ===
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

=== All white stuff on his face(declined) ===

Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' I don't think TBC meant for it to look like that. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== Strong Mad's laugh(declined) ===
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant. TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc. These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' Ditto. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

=== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch."(modified and accepted) ===
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)

== [[Theme Song Video]] ==

=== Drink Me? ===
in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time

*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time. Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]

== [[time capsule]] ==

=== World-Class Hole (Declined) ===
The hole in 20X6 is from [[2 years]].
*'''Decline.''' I think it's pretty obvious Stinkoman was digging the hole. [[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 18:40, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:06, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:18, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] 12:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

== [[Kick the Can]] ==

=== Opposite approach (Declined) ===
The Kick the Can cartoons take the opposite approach to animation as Marzipan's Answering Machine. Kick the Can is all animation with the same musical score behind it, where as Marzipan's Answering Machine is only voice without any action. --[[User:No Parking|No Parking]] 17:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
(Ps. I rarely do the whole Wiki thing, hope I did this right.)

*'''Decline.''' Not what I'd call a "fun" fact. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 10:40, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 21:05, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:20, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:40, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:42, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
**'''Second'''' -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:19, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Don't care at all. '''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:54, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''

== [[part-time job]] ==

=== SWF File (Declined) ===
This time when one of the caracters breaking the fourth wall when Strong bad peeks around the black. If you view the flash file you can see he really is looking around the black and not another object that is there. Unless he is behind an active camaflouge wall.

*Okay, what is STUFF for, if not to get rid of these things? There are hundreds of glitches we could point out when you watch just the flash file. Not interesting. I would just delete it, but the image should be removed as well. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:27, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Oh, and noting when the characters break the fourth wall should not make a fun fact. Strong Bad does it practically every email, when he refers to "finishing the email", or looks straight ahead. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 19:33, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. ever try watching [[virus]] or [[flashback]] in SWF mode? same kinda stuff happens. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]] PS-- It's "Character" not caracter.
*'''Delete.''' Glitches of the .swf file are not fun facts. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:20, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Why doesn't every user have a link to the header of the STUFF page on their "my talk" page? Oh, and "breaking the fourth wall" is knowing that you're a character in a cartoon, not peeking behind a camoflauged wall. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:59, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:07, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' About breaking the fourth wall...look, Strong Bad sings an e-mail song with each new SBemail. Maybe we should list that as a fun fact everytime he does it.
*'''BALEET''' er... '''DELETE!'''--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 08:50, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''DELETE''' That's like saying that it's a fun fact that when you view the SWF for The Luau, Homestar's legs are missing when he says "Oh, Man, Pom-Pom". Actually, that might be a fun fact BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT! IT'S A GLITCH! -- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava]]
*'''Decline''' This is on the special page that we have that's all about [[Fourth Wall Breaks]]. And, it's got nothing to do with the SWF file, the authors deliberately composed the cartoon this way. -- [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 16:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Relative (Declined) ===
Supposedly the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes. The battery runs out just over three minutes into the e-mail. What did Strong Bad do those other two minutes?

*It is possible that Marzipan's kitchen is a little less than a minute away from Bubs' concession stand.
**Yes, it is. So '''Decline.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:04, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***A little unclear, but basically a good one. '''Revise''' i think would be best. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Revise''' To say ''Remember that the Lappy has a battery life of five minutes and the email is only three minutes long, meaning either Strong Bad was sitting under Marzipan's table for a bit before accessing his email or there was a time gap because of going to and from Bubs' Concession Stand.'' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline''' He could have used it for two minutes some other time before the email and not recharged it. Or it could be so bad that it doesn't last for five minutes after a few uses. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:53, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*And don't forget he had to get in and out of the hot-dog clown costume, which is replaced by wipes/scene changes :) --[[User:tiktak|tiktak]]
**Second. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:01, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Someone could have turned it off, or the laptop went on standby mode. [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***Lappy 486, being an old laptop, brobably doesn't have a standby mode.
*'''Decline.''' In short, there are endless explanations. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' that. --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:51, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Dilbert (Modified) ===
The Hot Dog Clown's tie bending upwards might be a reference to the comic strip [http://www.dilbert.com Dilbert] where Dilbert has a tie that bends upward.

''Also seen worded as:''

The tragiclowndog's tie points upwards, like [[Wikipedia:Dilbert| Dilbert]]'s.

*A classic Dilbert feature. '''Accept'''
*'''Decline''' to both: if the tie was striped like Dilbert's, I could see this. However, it's just a funny tie on a hotdog clown. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:::It doesn't even flip up the same as Dilbert's tie. Both of them do, but not in the same way. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:09, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I dident know that
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:36, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' the second one. Unless someone can point out another well known cartoon character with a chronically upward-pointing tie. The association makes sense when one considers that Strong Bad's job is about as bad as Dilbert's. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:51, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:19, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Buh-hubs (Modified) ===
In the "Johnny" easter egg, the playbill spells Bubs' names as "Buh-hubs". This references how he spoke it "clearly" into the mirror in [[lunch special]]. - Tim

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:41, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
*Doesn't this also reference "cuh-hold" ones? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 00:45, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*One word: no. '''Delete'''. sorry. [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Modify.''' Mention that "buh-hubs" was also a filename in [[big white face]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:02, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:11, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Someday (Declined) ===
In the easter egg, when Strong Bad says "Someday...someday..." that may be a reference to [[monster truck]].

*'''Decline''': given the tone of his voice, this seems ridiculous. --[[User:65.188.66.12|65.188.66.12]] 20:45, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' - When I first saw it, I thought of the Monster Truck ad. -[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Just a sentimental clich�, little resemblance to monster truck. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:37, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline'''. This has absolutely no similarities to monster truck. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:12, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**True dat. '''Second'd.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 15:52, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm fairly certain TBC didn't plan it out that way. --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:27, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== League of Women Voters (Declined) ===
"The League of Me and the Cheat Ice-Cream Socials" is probably a play on the League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials.

*I have found no evidence that the League of Women Voters ever held Ice Cream Socials, or rather, that the phrase "League of Women Voters Ice Cream Socials" is ever used. This seems coincidental, unless someone can provide proof. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*I did this one, and I admit it was mostly instinctual on my part. However, having attended many an ice-cream social for some local cause in my day, I still imagine that this is a parody of some organization starting "The League of...". Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it might be worth a follow up. --[[User:corbmobile|corbmobile]] 06:13, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

== [[other days]] ==

=== Thor? (DECLINED) ===
"Instruc-tor" is most likely refering to Thor, the Viking God of thunder.

*'''Decline.''' Definitely not. An "or" at the end of a word can be emphasized to make the person this word describes sound more intimidating. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' There is nothing there to suggest its a reference to Thor.
**'''Second.''' How could you think this was referring to that?
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' and coming up next on WFLM Making No Sense at All radio station is... "Thor?"!!!--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:35, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

== [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]] ==

=== Three Noses? (declined) ===
Three Noses is a referance to The Magic School Bus in which they get graded on smell with noses.

*'''Decline.''' Stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not enough proof to be a fun fact. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Its meant to be stupid. Makes me wonder connections people are trying to tie to wave of babies. --[[User:Donny vs Universe |Donny vs Universe ]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Real big stretch. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:18, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

== [[dreamail]] ==

=== Decline of Video Gaming (declined) ===

When Homestar says "what are you talking aboot", it is almost definitely a reference to [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/191110 "The Decline of Video Gaming 2"], a Flash cartoon by The Super Flash Brothers and Double Helix in which a South Park-style Tidus (from [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]] says the sentence in exactly the same manner.

I am the creator of this Fun Fact, and am placing it on here because someone decided to delete it and then tell me to put it on here if I cared so much, instead of just doing so themselves. They said it was an obscure line when in fact quite a large bit of "Decline of Video Gaming 2" is quite quotable, the above line included. Besides, there are far more obscure references that are inferred for other toons, and if this is unworthy of being on the site then there are plenty more fun facts that should meet the same fate.

*'''Decline.''' Although that is a good flash, it has nothing to do with HR, even if they mentioned HR in the commentary. It's a parody of Canadians. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 12:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' (no pun intended) - as the one who removed it, allow me to elaborate: that scene was an obvious parody of Canadians and how they speak in general. So, who's to say that Homestar's line isn't just another take at them? Who's to say it's not a reference to many, many other things that possibly said "What are you talking aboot?" (not that I have a list, but I wouldn't doubt they're out there)? It's a minor line as it is, and too obscure to be a "definite reference"; it instead strikes me as speculation, and as the top of this page states, that's a bad fun fact. As for why I didn't STUFF it right away... well, I just didn't think it was worth it, it's just THAT obscure. Besides, STUFF is a little '''stuff'''ed full as it is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:55, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Delete, Delete, Delete. That was a parody of some people in Canada. (I've lived 12 years in Canada and have never said and/or heard anyone say 'aboot'. Ever. In a million years. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] *tired of writing brackets*
*'''Decline.''' The level of obscurity doesn't really matter. Pronouncing "ow" as "oo" or "oh", regardless of accuracy, is a common stereotype about Canadians(RPharazon: Actually, all of the Canadians I know speak this way, your results may vary). Furthermore, "what are you talking about?" is about as generic as a sentence can become. It doesn't even contain any proper nouns. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:16, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Or, indeed, any nouns at all. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*** Well, it does have two '''pro'''nouns... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:05, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Don't say it almost definitely is. You don't what you're talking about. This is just most likely a reference to "prooty" earlier in the e-mail.

=== Backwards joke (declined) ===

The backwards joke first appeared in [[2 emails]].

*'''Decline.''' While both gags include the word "backwards" they are hardly related. the first was based on Strong Bad's inability to maintain his train of thought while discussing time travel, the second was simply his own luxuriating in the presence of a bronzed, guacamoled email from 128 Hot Katies. Also note that schematically, "I'll just have to wait it out...backwards." and "Read it again, slowly, and... backwards." are not even similar. Additionally, in the former case, the pause is because Strong Bad has finished his sentence and then tacked on "backwards" in a last ditch attempt to make sense (or at least sarcastically point out that he realizes he doesn't), in the latter case he is merely pausing to collect his ideas. --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:48, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's clearly not the same joke. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:18, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== Not Plugged In (declined) ===
The Lappy is not plugged in when it is in the submarine.
*'''Decline''' So what? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 11:52, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a dreammail. The lappy doesn't have to be plugged in.
**'''Second'''
**You can't second something without signing it! --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Decline''' The Lappy is a laptop and laptops don't need to be plugged in.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:19, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*In [[part-time job]] Strong Bad was worried because the Lappy was almost out of juice, which wouldn't happen if it were plugged in. '''Decline'''. Sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**In that email, Strong Bad was not at his desk. I wasn't sure (and still am not sure) if it would be plugged in when it's in the normal place, which I assumed the submarine should be. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:15, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

==[[ghosts]]==
===PETRA(declined)===
The rock and role band "PETRA" relesed a CD in 1986 called "Captured In Time And Space."
this may have a resenblents to the area strong sad is in.

*'''Weak Decline.''' Not really that similar. I would've gone neutral but you made an entire heading for it and you spelled "resemblence" wrong. Completely wrong. Before adding your stuff, be sure to look at the standards page :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and spelling, too. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:53, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:08, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' "Time and space" is a common phrase. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Maxstar|Maxstar]]

==[[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]==
===Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts(declined)===
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

*'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]
*'''Accept''' The transcript mentions that Marzipan has no mouth, but not that this can be "clearly told".
*'''Decline''' Frankly, Mr. Anonymous, I fail to see the difference in this case. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As mentioned, it's in the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]==
===VOIP(declined)===
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' Check the toon and the transcript - the abbreviation is "VoIP" while the sound used is "VOiP". If this was an intentional Voice over IP reference, they'd have used the lower-case "o" and the upper-case "I". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:36, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Writing a sound as a word is Otomotophoya. [[User: drivec|drivec]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***The word is "Otomotopia". I'd really love to know where you got the "phoya" from. :-P --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:18, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Don't you both mean "[[Wikipedia:Onomatopoeia|Onomatopoeia]]"? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:02, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*****Eh, I did a search and found the spelling I used. At least I had the right PRONUNCIATION. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:56, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
******"onomato" doesn't sound much like "otomoto", but you were mostly in the ball park, yes. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:31, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*******FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! I...Er... I mean '''Second.''' - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]==
===Quotation'd(declined)===
When the Intercom Robot announces the next band is Kissyboots, it says, "Next up is "Kissyboots ", without the second quotation mark.
*<s>'''Neutral for now''' I don't think that's true lemme go check up on that. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 11:56, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
*'''Decline''' I rewatched it and the second quotation is definitely in there. '''UNFACTUAL'D''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:02, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This isn't even good enough for STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==[[stunt double]]==
===Lemmer(declined)===

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]

*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' And Lemke isn't his last name, he's called Mark Lemke -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:01, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't have the DVD, but if commentary says it's a reference to [[LEMKE]], make say so. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:29, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)

== [[homsar]] ==
=== Heavy Lourde(declined) ===
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

== [[huttah!]] ==
===Title(declined)===
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'll say it again. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]

== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ==
=== Dr Zoidberg(declined) ===

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot is, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==[[homestar hair]]==
=== Losing his touch(declined) ===

Strong Bad sure seems to be losing his touch lately. This is the second email in a row, after "butt IQ", that is not funny.

*'''Very very very strong Decline.''' And don't need to say why. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:44, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
** I think this vote should be discounted because there is no reason provided.
*** Read the rules. You don't need to provide a reason except on a Revise/Rewrite vote. Anyway, it won't matter in this case since the fact has unanimous declines so far. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:41, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; That's opinion, not fact. In fact, this shouldn't even have been STUFF'd. This isn't "Select The Usable Fun Opinions". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What? Not the STUFO page? Oh, then I guess there isn't any reason not to '''DECLINE''' then. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:08, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' - This page is SO getting out of hand. People are REALLY reaching... especially when they're submitting bald-faced lies, er, bald-faced opinions as facts. I know we're not supposed to say so, but this one should be '''DELTEATED''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''EXTREME Decline''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:14, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' We have no documented record of anybody laughing at either of these emails, besides laughing at how not-funny they are.
** 9_9 Please stop making joke votes. This is not a valid Fun Fact at all (it's not objective in the least, and an information page MUST be objective). In fact, if I found this one on a page, I'd delete it without even thinking about STUFFing it. Not as though this one counts (not signed) but they're still stupid. (Can we make this a WikiTrollable offense?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Cross toon facts==

=== Trust(declined) ===
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. →''<tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Yeah. i remember that. " You shouldn't be Throwing anything with your back the way it is". erm....something like that

User:Homeschool Winner

Homeschool Winner — Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:11:08 GMT

Homeschool Winner: New Article

User:Homeschool Winner

Homeschool Winner — Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:10:49 GMT

Homeschool Winner: New Article

The Strong Parents are most-likely a never before seen Strong Mom and Strong Dad. Considering the [[Brothers Strong]] distinct differences, the Strong Parents must have been pretty danged strange. According to the Brothers Chaps at the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]], about one out of every five emails has something to do with the Strong Parents. They refuse to reveal them because they claim it would give away too much.

Everybody Everybody Poster

Homeschool Winner — Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:24:30 GMT

Homeschool Winner: Just an extra fact

[[Image:everybody-poster.jpg|thumb|Everybody, la-de-dah-dee-dah!]]This is the second poster offered by the [[Store]]. It features a massive number of characters standing around [[Strongbadia]].

At [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]], the Brothers Chaps pointed out that this poster has all of the characters up to and including the introduction of [[Sterrance]].

__NOEDITSECTION__
== Character List ==
{| border=0
|
===Bottom Row===
|
===Second Row===
|
===Third Row===
|-
|
''Starting from the left.''
*[[Strong Sad]]
*[[Homsar]]
*[[Frank Bennedetto]]
*[[Homestar Runner]]
*[[The Stick]]
*[[Eh! Steve]]
*[[Homestar Jr.]]
*[[The Cheat]]
*[[Stop Sign]]
*[[Cinderblock]]
*[[Strong Bad]]
*[[Gavin]]
*[[Doreauxgard]]
*[[The Ugly One]]
|
 
*[[Cheerleader]]
*[[What's Her Face]]
*[[Marzipan]]
*[[The Homestar Runner]]
*[[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]]
*[[The Sneak]]
*[[Tire]]
*[[The Worm]]
*[[Grape Nuts Robot]]
*[[Sherlock]]
*[[Li'l Brudder]]
*[[The Man with the Huge Mouth]]
*[[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]]
*[[So and So]]
|
*[[Pom Pom]]
*[[The Wheelchair]]
*Teeny Tiny [[The Ugly One]]
*[[Stinkoman]]
*[[Reynold]]
*[[Blue Laser Babies]]
*[[Coach Z]]
*[[Powered By The Cheat]] [[Marzipan]]
*[[20X6 Homestar]]
*[[Pan Pan]]
*[[Strong Mad]]
*[[Senor Cardgage]]/[[Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad]]
|-
|
===Fourth Row===
*[[The Poopsmith]]
*[[King of Town]]
*[[Bubs]]
*Teeny Tiny [[So and So]]
*[[1936 Strong Bad]]
*[[Fat Dudley]]
|
===Fifth Row===
*[[Sickly Sam]]
*[[1936 Marzipan]]
*[[The Football Player]]
*[[The Bishop]]
*[[The Knight]]
*[[The Blacksmith]]
*[[The Hornblower]]
*[[The Little Chef Dude]]
*[[Rather Dashing]]
*[[The Two Kids]]
*[[The Goblin]]
*[[Tompkins]]
*[[Thomas]]
*[[1936 Strong Bad]]
*[[Fat Dudley]]
|
===Sixth Row===
*Powered by The Cheat [[The Cheat]]
*Powered by The Cheat [[The Poopsmith]]
*[[Painting of a guy with a big knife]]
*Storybook [[Pom Pom]]
*[[The Devil]]
*[[The Kaiser]]
*[[Strong Man]]
*[[Crackotage]]
*[[Bad Graphics Ghost]]
*[[Prime Time]]
*[[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]]
*[[The Guy at the Depot]]
*[[Gunhaver]]
*[[Fightgar]]
*[[Firebert]]
*[[Silent Rip]]
*[[Blue Laser Commander]]
*[[Mr. Bland]]
|-
|
===Seventh Row===
*[[The Gremlin]]
*[[Trogdor]]
*Powered by The Cheat [[Coach Z]]
*Powered by The Cheat [[Homestar]]
*[[Strong Badman]]
*Storybook [[Strong Mad]]
*Storybook [[Strong Sad]]
*[[Señor]]
*Teeny Tiny [[What's Her Face]]
*Teeny Tiny [[Cheerleader]]
*[[Blue Laser]] minion
*Storybook [[Strong Bad]]
*Storybook [[Homestar]]
*[[The Prince of Town]]
*[[Keyboard Strong Bad]]
*Storybook [[Marzipan]]
*Powered by The Cheat [[Bubs]]
*[[Sterrance]]
*Powered by The Cheat [[Strong Bad]]
*[[Tofu Homestar]]
*[[The Jolly Dumple]]
*[[The Announcer]]
*[[The Yello Dello]]
|
===Behind the fence===
*The moon from [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]]
*[[Bear-Shark]]
*[[Visor Robot]]
*The [[Videlectrix]] mascot
*[[Marshie]]
|}

== Fun Facts ==
===Goofs===
*The Worm's hole is covering up a bit of the Grape Nuts Robot, which is impossible.
*The Man With The Huge Mouth's body "disappears" under Strong Bad's arm.
*Li'l Brudder's drool seems to be "floating" above 20X6 Homestar's foot.
*The small print at the bottom reads "© 2004 [[Harmless Junk, Inc.]]" This poster was for sale in 2005.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's right foot is covered by the Strongbadia [[Stop Sign]], a possible reference to [[monument]].
*Even though [[Tendafoot]] was created before Sterrance, he isn't on here. The Brothers Chaps announced at the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] that he is represented by Li'l Brudder.
[[Category: Products]]

Homestar Runner

Homeschool Winner — Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:13:55 GMT

Homeschool Winner: /* Homestar's eyes */

[[Image:homestar.PNG|thumb|A terrific athlete]]

:''This article is about the [[Characters|character]]. For information on the Homestar Runner flash cartoon, see [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)]].''

== Biography ==
Homestar is the star of the show, but he probably doesn't realize it. Ever the butt of jokes and the recipient of [[Nicknames#Homestar Runner|nicknames]], Homestar is an earnest character with a clean heart and nothing but love for the rest of mankind. Unfortunately, his absolute cluelessness and clumsiness keep him from realizing his full potential. You can never be quite sure whether he and [[Marzipan]] are going out or not, but he sure seems to think they are. He weighs about 100 pounds, according to the toon [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]].

Homestar is the star athlete on an unspecified sports team led by [[Coach Z]]. He is also colonel of the inactive [[Homestarmy]]. His best friend remains [[Pom Pom]]. He has some speech impediments; as he says, he has "twouble with his aw's." He also likes to borrow things from (and return things to) [[Strong Bad]], particularly without the latter's knowledge.

Although he is often the target of pranks by Strong Bad, Homestar believes that he is friends with Strong Bad and tries to win his favor, often with bad results which Homestar completely misunderstands. As a whole, Homestar seems to be too dim to realize when people are being mean to him, or when he's being mean to other people. He often unintentionally insults his friends or steps on their feelings and is unable to understand their resulting feelings of anger.

*'''Domicile''': [[Homestar's House]]

*'''Debut''': [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Homestar Runner Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title:''' Homerun Hitter!}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, hello. Greetings, one and everyone. Welcome to me... Homestar... Runner... Homestar Runner. Um... what else? I pretty much run the show around here. I date the only girl, I have the only propeller cap (propeller cap twirls). And can run, and jump, and kick the fastest, highest and like nobody's business. If I had to pick one word to describe myself, it would probably be... Fluffy Puff Marshmallows. Or Homestar. Either one, really. They both fit.

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{offscreen}'' Don't forget doofus/moron/um...Lionel Richie. ''{The last word Strong Bad says is selected at random}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Yeah, that too. That's another good one. In closing, I look good in red. Check it out. ''{turns around, sings}'' Butt dance, butt da-a-ance!

== Homestar's eyes ==
*Homestar's eyes move around his head. Most of the time they're like a flounder's eyes, and they switch sides on his face whenever he turns. In the [[Old Intro 2]], you can sort of see Homestar's eyes moving as the camera circles around him.
*His puppet and his two figurines, on the other hand, have eyes stuck on one side of his head. Occasionally you can get a peek at the other side of Puppet Homestar's face, which looks pretty creepy without any eyes.
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] actually made the eyes velcro, so they can be switched if necessary.

== Also known as... ==
[[Image:TMBG_Homestar_closeup_20040925.jpg|thumb|right|Homestar in [[Puppet Stuff]]]]
*[[The Homestar Runner]] ([[1936]])
*[[20X6 Homestar]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Dangeresque too]] ([[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[The King of Town (Decemberween)|The King of Town]] ([[Decemberween]])
*[[Poppy the Tire]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Kurt Cobain|Kurt Cobain]]
*[[Wikipedia:The Greatest American Hero|The Greatest American Hero]]
*[[Wikipedia:Angus Young|Angus Young]]
*[[Wikipedia:John McEnroe|John McEnroe]]
*Carl Spackler (from [http://imdb.com/title/tt0080487/ Caddyshack])

== See Also ==
*[[Homestar Runner Evolution]]

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/vcr_hs.html watch Homestar Runner's character video]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/vcr_hs.swf view the flash file for Homestar Runner's character video]

{{Characters}}
[[Category:Homestarmy]]

User talk:Tom

Homeschool Winner — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:14:28 GMT

Homeschool Winner: NYU Video

==Jones being funny==
Yarr!! - [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 23:05, 16 Jul 2004 (MST)

==Seethroo with some questions==
Heya, [[User:Tom|Tom]]. Do you ever check this thing?
What's goin' on with the Wiki? It seems to be going nuts. ~ [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Yes, I do. And yeah, it's under some strain right now. Crazy. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:51, 2 Aug 2004 (MST)

Cool, cool. I'm gonna be able to help move stuff tonight. [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Sweet. I appreciate it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:41, 3 Aug 2004 (MST)

Hey, is there any particular reason I CANNOT get onto Recent Changes on the oldschool wiki? It's seriously gettin' on my nerves. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:03, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

:I'm guessing it's just the mySQL overload we've been experiencing. Yeah, bummer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:05, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

Woah. I added a pantload...but there are still some organizational things that need to be hammered out...I guess check the comments I made in various places...I'm tired... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 23:11, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

HOLY CRAP! Who're all those people blocked from this wiki??? I didn't know you were doin' that much blocking already! - [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:34, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, those are open proxies. You can see the note [[Template:BlockedProxy|here]] and Joey's and my discussion of the topic [[Template talk:BlockedProxy|here]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:47, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

----

I wanted to do that for old times sake. Anyway, I kinda discovered something to make transferring things much easier. If you take the code from 'Tavi pages, put em in Word, and then do a ctrl-f, you can have it replace all the parentheses with brackets. Doing things that way, I can get all my links straightened out before I even put the text in MediaWiki. Just sharing... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:44, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, I do the same thing, except I use TextPad. It helps a bunch. Mostly. Just have to be a little careful. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

::How're all my edits and transfers? Is there something wrong that I'm doing that I need to be aware of? (did I just say "doing"? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:54, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::You, my friend, are doing a great job. You're really keeping things moving along. Keep up the good work. I'm seriously thinking you are the man right about now. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:24, 12 Aug 2004 (MST)

==Note from Firebird==

Just wanted to say thanks for all the work put into the move. Great Job! -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:You're welcome. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Redirects ==

Tom: I'm seeing some deletion of redirect pages on the deletion log. It looks like most of those pages will not be missed, but it does help to have some "common" misspelling articles redirect to the proper article. This is not for sloppy linking , as no pages SHOULD link to a redirect page. This is for people who come to the site, punch in a name into the search box and are taken to the correct page.

There is always some debate over what constitutes a common misspelling. I created a redirect from Whats her face to What's her face. This seems useful to me. Let me know what you think about this. [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 15:42, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

:I agree. The ones I've been trying to catch are old links that were not fixed correctly during the move. Things like "MainPage 10" that were used instead of "[[Main Page 10]]" becuase of CamelCase on 'Tavi. The person who created that redirect then went ahead and created one for "MainPage 11", even though nothing linked there. I don't see the need for 21 pages to be created like this. Another example is "sbemail1" and its companions. There isn't a need for that.

:Of course, you also have to remember that we turned on case-sensitivity. That means that "[[What's Her Face]]" and "What's her Face" are also two completely different pages. I'd rather that a link show up in red and someone pick up on their mistake right away then have them continue to make links to redirect pages. But I suppose it would be very hard to keep a lid on things like this once we get going. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:55, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

::Oh, Contraire! I have often wanted to be able to quickly type "sbemailxx" into the search box to find something quickly. I agree that old camel case links should be removed, but I see nothing wrong with shortcut redirects for the lazy. (I was actually thinking of adding these the other day, then stumbled across this thread. Sorry I'm a little late joining the discussion.) :) --[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 22:37, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

==Note from Jones==
''[copied and pasted from [[User:Tom]]]''

I'm just so sick of you being at the top of [[Special:Wantedpages]]. So there. Now you're unwanted. -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 07:49, 3 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Thanks Jones. I feel so loved. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

==Notes from Maudi==
''[both were copied and pasted from [[User:Tom]]]''

Thank God that you made it, Tom! Thank God! -Maudi Algabban

:I agree! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

Hey, Tom! Have you listened to "Dragostea din tei" with Haiducii or O-Zone? They're from Romania. -Maudi --[[User:193.150.221.247|193.150.221.247]] 16:28, 19 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Sorry, I have to admit that I still haven't. Have you made a userpage yet? Heh heh. But seriously, I know there's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=193.150.221.247 some stuff] that needs to be attributed to you by being on your userpage. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:08, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Note ==

Oh geez, man, it looks like I disambiguated a page you deleted. Took too long doing it, I guess. I'm really sorry about that. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:40, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

:No problem, I can just re-delete it. And I appreciate you leaving this note. It makes me feel good. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:41, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Oh Man ==
''[In reply to a comment from [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17]]]''

All that work... I'm really sorry. I was trying to figure out why all my pics looked slightly off. Oh well. I've switched over now. I just wish I hadn't deleted them as I went along... Oh well. I think I'm still doing ok for only being here about a week. Again, my apolagies. And they'll all be PNG from now on. Btw, if you could provide me with a list of the JPG pictures I uploaded, I could replace them in my spare time. Thanks.

-Thunderbird

:Hey, no problem. Here's a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Thunderbird_L17 good place] to get started. Then there's always the [[Special:Imagelist|Image List]]. I think that might work best. And I can come up with a better list if you need it. And I'm glad you can see the difference. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:03, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

UPDATE:

Topic Complete.

All of my uploaded JPG files are now PNG. Took a bit of doing, but it's done.

== Sebastian Coe ==

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Coe 
''He first ran against Ovett in Prague in 1978 in an 800 meter race that neither won. The next year in Oslo, Norway, '''Coe set his first world records''' (in the 800-meter and '''mile races'''). One of the most famous races between Ovett and Coe was in the 1980 Olympic Games in the 1500-meters. Coe won in Olympic Record time.''

=== Further References ===
From http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/3257/coe.html 
''He beat Ovett's mile record, running it in 3 min 48.53 sec on August 19; only a week later '''Ovett set another mile record, which was then shattered by Coe''' with a 3 min 47.33 sec run on August 28.''

Here are some of his times in the mile: 
''mile <nowiki>3'48''95</nowiki> 1979 Wr (Oslo)'' 
''mile <nowiki>3'48''53</nowiki> 1981 Wr (Zurich)'' 
''mile <nowiki>3'47''33</nowiki> 1981 Wr (Bruxelles)'' 
Note: Wr stands for World Record.

One final reference: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/World%20record%20progression%20for%20the%20mile%20run 

And a quote from you; 
:''"Hmm. [Coe] didn't really run the mile. And he never had the world record."'' 
Could you please cite your references?? As far as I can tell, he not only ran the mile, he also held the world record on ''three'' seperate occasions.[[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

::Um, my bad. But you did notice that I changed my edit after that edit you quoted me on, right? And that I was being particularly ambigious in my wording? Anyway, you are right. No hard feelings. Thank you. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:13, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

:So, were you gonna change it back then? [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

::Done. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:13, 23 Sep 2004 (MST)
:Thanks [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

== Idea ==

How about desktop background downloads for the wiki? Anyone who wanted to create one could, then e-mail one of the admins the image. Then the admin, if approved, could upload it into the wiki images. It's just an idea, but I like the sound of it. I'd love to have an HRwiki background. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Hmm. I don't think so. The problem is this, the Wiki is just for information. If you want to make something on your own and then have it somewhere that you could link to from your userpage, that would be better. See, we kind of tread on this uneasy ground with copyrights and the like. Not only that, but there's also the content issue. I know a background that you would make would most likely be good and wholesome for the Wiki and for Homestar Runner, but I wouldn't want to encourage other not-as-good backgrounds to be made. You are always free to make your own backgrounds, keep them to yourself, use them on your computer, and do what ever you want with them.
:As of right now, I'll say this: I don't think you will ever have an official Homestar Runner Wiki background. But I'll ask around and see what I can do. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:43, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

::That's fine with me. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

== Floppy Disks ==

Since you apparently look after the floppy disk section mostly, I figured you would be the best person to ask. How do you feel about a picture of the floppy disk container and it's label beside every listing of it in the inside jokes section? I would be happy to complete that undertaking if you approve. Also, is there anywhere else I could add some pictures? I'm finished the rejects section.

-Thunderbird_L17

:[http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=Floppy+Disk+Container%2FStrongBadEmailDiskLabels Floppy Disk Container/StrongBadEmailDiskLabels]. Check it out. The problem is this: the Wiki is text-based, and information provided through text makes things much easier to search and quicker to load. I'm not really sure that having a screenshot of every different one is needed. Why would it need to be seen by the viewer? Could they simply watch the toon or email instead? One thing that really needs to be done regarding The Container is having the links to the page standardized. Every Fun Facts section on every email and toon that has The Container in it should link to the Floppy Disk Container page in a uniform way. You could get started on that, if you want. And then there's what the disks actually reference. There's a subpage of the Old Wiki page on that needs to be copied over and gone through with a fine-tooth comb.
:Regarding the images, you kind of need to convince me why they are actually needed. Thanks for asking though, this has really gotten me thinking. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:31, 22 Sep 2004 (MST)

Well since you already have the list of where the disk case occurs, it should be easy to find the toons to put the link in. I'll get on it later. As far as the floppy images go, I don't think they're NEEDED per-say, but I think it would be kinda cool. It lets people really VISUALIZE the floppys. They would be really small pics too, not full screen. But if you don't want them I won't put them there. As for other pics though, I have been kind of going through the sites putting pictures on everything, if you don't like any of them, feel free to take them off. I just think that any character, object, or place does need a picture to really visualize what the afforementioned thing is. Most of the pages I did only have one or two pics, with the exceptions of The [[King of Town's Castle]] place page, and the [[Tandy_400]] computer page. I kinda may have gone overboard on those ones. Look 'em over and decide. The [[Monkey_D]]'s page also have a few. If you don't like them you can fix them how you see fit. But the widescreen pic in [[Strong_Bad's_Basement]], I'm really proud of that pic. It took me awhile. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 22:24, 22 Sep 2004 (PST)

:Those four pages that you linked to are good. And that basement image is especially good. In some places, it borders on the line of being to much, but I think you played it well. They also could use some small tweaks, but that will all come in good time. As for The Floppies, I think you can make a seperate section on the page for the images and organize them in a table. I actually have all the images, and I can upload them later if you want to use them. (I use them for [http://members.lycos.co.uk/tfpreuss/avatar/avatar.php my avatar] on the forum.) What do you think of that? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:11, 23 Sep 2004 (MST)

Okay, it's up and running..ish. Access it from the regular floppy list. If you have the images, feel free to upload them. Any that you don't have, or don't feel like uploading, I can them. Just upload what you want, and I'll do the rest. Oh, and how do you feel about the naming of images in the Floppy_*name_of_e-mail*.PNG uniformity? You can name then however you want, but I think there should be some form of uniformity in naming the image files. Just tell me if this is okay, and if you're done uploading the images you want. Also, they should all be fullscreen screenshots, right?

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 11:10, 27 Sep 2004 (PST)

Alrightie. Update on the floppy disk container. I've been slowly working away at the Floppy disk container with screenshots page, no help needed there, but as I do so I realized another thing missing from the floppy disk container section, and an actual USEFUL thing, is a breif description and history of the games listed on the floppy disk containers. So that being said, I'm also plugging away at that in my little corner of the floppy disk page. If you would like the commentaries on the main floppy disk page too, which I think would be useful, please let me know so that I can add them to both pages as I go along. No rush though, it'll probably be a few weeks before I'm finished researching them and all. Let me know if you think this would be an improvement to the floppy disk page though. Generally I don't ask permission for editing things, but since you're the senior and keeper of the floppy disk container, I thought it was only fair to ask you. So what are your thoughts?

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:45, 6 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I do like the information on what the labels mean, and I wouldn't really call them commentaries. They are all pretty clear cut. Let's see how big they get and then play it from there. Keep them on that screenshot page for now, I don't want to violate [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:44, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hiho. I've run into a roadblock doing the pics. In the e-mail 'lackey', how did you read, let alone get a picture, of the CD case? It's off the screen! Please let me know, or if you have the pic, simply save it as Floppy_lackey.PNG . Please let me know either way whenever. Thanks.

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 10:37, 11 Oct 2004 (PST)

:I used a program called [http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ Flash Decompiler]. It's a free download, so you might want to give it a try. Though I wasn't able to export the actual image, I was able to read the text. But you might have better luck than I did.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:41, 11 Oct 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I don't like treating you like an FAQ, I just have ONE last question. (Probably)...
I have the program, but how do you get the file onto it? It seems like you can only decompile files on your harddrive. Is this so? If it is, how do you get a flash file (SB E-mail Lackey) onto your hard drive? If it isn't, how do you get it from the interent? Last question, probably. I promise. Likely.

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 7:33, 13 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Down the bottom of each toon's or email's page, there's a link for the flash file. Just right click and choose "Save Link As..." or your browser's equivalent.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:57, 14 Oct 2004 (MST)

Thanks, I got it. What do you think of my floppy for Lackey? It's the best I could do... Anyways, I wanted to ask you about the once and only once policy. Though I agree that it's a good policy, I think that the 'see above' thing destroys the look of the summaries, especially once they are all finished. Plus, 'Manhunter New York' appeared in an e-mail at the top, then a toon way at the bottom. So it would be kind of hard to just say 'see above'. Plus since the picture is repeated, why not the explanation? You are the moderater, and whatever you decide I'll abide by, but in this case, since it's only for about 4 floppies, a number that's not likely to be increased, could I just repeat the explanations?

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 6:28, 15 Oct 2004 (PST)

:You know, I do like the idea of having the information on both. Let's try using a tempate instead. Do you think that will work?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:33, 15 Oct 2004 (MST)

Template? I don't know much about website formating or whatnot. Basically everything I do on the Wiki I learn by looking at how somebody else wrote a code, and then copying that pattern. But if you think the template or whatever will work, go ahead. You were right about floating the pictures to the left, making it into tables, all that kind of thing. Just do what you want, and if I disagree I can always revert. But overall I'm happy with what you do. Does this mean that I can put the repeat explanations on the few pictures though, instead of 'see above'?

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 23:49, 15 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Okay, here's what I did. I created [[Template:tongue of the fatman]], [[Template:lode runner]], and [[Template:manhunter new york]]. Check out the page to see if you like it. Now, there's only one place you need to go in order to change the content that will show up for both floppies.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:41, 16 Oct 2004 (MST)

Okay, that works. I don't really plan on editing them much anyways anymore, once the summary is there. But it looks exactly the same, so it's fine. Btw, I fixed the out of place 3.5 inch disk summary, I found a place for it where it fits nicely. Now nothing has two explanations, and the 5.25 inch disks don't have the same summary twice. (See Second 5.25 Inch Disk Summmary)

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 9:09, 16 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Very good. Well done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 16 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hey, can you do the same to Cave Quest (100th e-mail) that you did to Shogun? I can't get it the right size without it pixelating...

-[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]] 18:33, 17 Oct 2004 (PST)

:Heh heh. I already did. You can revert back to my image from [[:Image:Floppy flashback.PNG|here]] if you like.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:42, 17 Oct 2004 (MST)

Hey Tom, I thought JPG format was to be used for videos and pictures, and PNG for all flash material. Plus I think the JPG looked clearer and brighter. If you really don't want it there, then I'll try another way, but I thought I read somewhere that JPG was preferable for pictures, just not for flash. Is the one JPG really that bad? Please clarify. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 06:30, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Ah ha. There's a little catch here though. We are talking about a screenshot of a movie or image, and not the actual image itself. Screenshots should always be PNGs. The only kinds of JPGs we should have are photos like [[:Image:TheBrothersChapsBandW.jpg]] or [[:Image:mattchapman.jpg]]. Perhaps an screenshot like [[:Image:puppetdween.png]] better illustrates what I'm trying to say.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:35, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

Okay, I getcha. Then I guess I'll just put it back on the old PNG one for now. Thanks. I guess if anything, it adds diversity...

[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 19:08, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

Alright, I think it's finally done. I have one more little task though that I can't complete on my own. The three templates, Template:manhunter_new_york , Template:lode_runner , and Template:tongue_of_the_fatman are now unneeded, and as such should be deleted, right? I can't figure out how to. If you know of a way, be my guest. Or should they just be left peacefully, until the end of time? -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:40, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

Sorry, I was just going to get breakfast when I finished my summary, and when I finished it I realized there was a stored version that wasn't there when I started. I didn't have time to merge them so I just uploaded mine, and I was going to merge them when I got the chance, which is now. I did notice the picture though, and already put it up. Sorry about that, I don't want to offend anyone. I'm going to merge them right now. I just figured if I put mine in quickly yours is still stored as a past edit, so that way they're both there if needed. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 12:21, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

Actually, I never thought about NPOV. While I was doing all this, I used reviews as sources, it's easier to just take the opinions of the writers and condence them. But I think that meathod has given the summaries a multi purpose, to now give you a bit of background about the game for curiosity's sake, but also as a type of mini review, for those who are deciding whether or not to find and play them. It gives the summaries a critical and reviewish type feel. Now to go back and do them all NPOV'D would take some doing, and in my opinion I don't think would be as enjoyable to read. What do you think?
'''Side Note:''' Since they replaced the 5.25's along with the Tandy, do you think they might replace the 2.5's with CD's along with the comp? I dunno, just a curious little observation.

--[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 15:05, 15 Nov 2004 (MST)

I figured since I already started a conversation thread here, I'd ask this under the same topic. Do you have a DVD player built into your computer? Basically the reason is that I need the pics of the Floppy Disk Containers from the DVD Main Menus for the Floppy Disk Container page. If it's got Puppet Time Version, it stands to reason that DVD version would be acceptable as well. I do have the DVD set, but no way of getting screens. (Prefferably 150px or larger). Thanks in advance,
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 15:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Okay. I do have a DVD player for my computer. But what screenshots do you need?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:10, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

The screens of the Floppy disk Containers on the Main Menus (the CG'd ones) from the DVDS. [[User:The Paper|The Paper]] did get them, but they decidedly leave something to be desired, and we're hoping you can do better. Hopefully Zoomed and what not. Also, the last Floppy Disk container couldn't be identified, it seems as though it's cut off by the camera. Check the [[Floppy Disk Container]], it's got the base of what I'm looking for there. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks alot. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 17:58, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Okay, I'll see what I can do.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:32, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Return the fanstuff! ==
I'd like a promise to agree to let me bring back the fanstuff. It doesn't make the wiki complete without it.--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing]] 16:34, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Joey has already [[User_talk:JoeyDay|replied to this demand]]. Fanstuff is [[HRWiki:About|not approved]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:11, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)
then im leaving. GOOD BYE!--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing, who will only be on the forum from now on.]] 04:57, 1 Oct 2004 (MST)

Wow. What a crybaby. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:43, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

I second that. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:42, 1 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Rollbacks ==

Exactly how do you roll a page back to its previous version? I've attempted to do this in the past, and I still haven't figured out how. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 19:28, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

:A very good question. I just fixed up the instructions on the [[WikiTroll]] page yesterday. Check 'em out.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:32, 30 Sep 2004 (MST)

== First time Here? on Log in ==

Is there anyway to link to the [[Hrwiki:About|about]] page on a log in page? It seems that people don't read that page, and it might help new users who log in? Do you agree? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Hmm, that's a pretty good idea. I'll look into that. But what might even be better is if we had some sort of [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee|welcoming committee]]. Would you want to be in charge or something like that?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:55, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

::I think it would be great if we had a welcoming committee (and I wouldn't mind being in charge). -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::Fantastic, I'm happy to hear it. Just look over what Wikipedia does. We don't need all that stuff, but I'm sure you'll find a way to adapt it for us.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:50, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

::::Should I make a page for our own little welcome committee? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::::Yeah, [[Hrwiki:Welcoming committee]] should work nicely. You're in charge, buddy.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:58, 7 Oct 2004 (MST)

== SB Email categories ==

I moved the [[:Category: Strong Bad Email]] as a sub-category of [[:Category: Strong Bad Filmography]]. All the emails were in both categories when technically all SB Emails are part of his filmography by default. It cleans up the Strong Bad filmography nicely and keeps the all the emails grouped together. There is only one email that SB is not in, but due to this arrangement will still be included in his filmography, but taking the IMDB as a guide, if someone guest hosts the "Late Show with David Letterman" it is called "Late Show Backstage", but it still shows up on Dave’s filmography. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 09:01, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Personally I don't think this really makes sense. An email that Strong Bad is not in should not be in his Filmography, despite what IMDb does. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

::I agree. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:::I also found it a bit confusing. Strong Bad, Homestar, and Marzipan are in all of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]s, but I don't think that should be a sub-category of any one of their filmographies. I think it would not be confusing to have every email be directly in Strong Bad's Filmography, except [[anything]], just how it was. It would also be less confusing for someone just looking at any email and thinking to themselves, "Oh, this one isn't listed in Strong Bad's Filmography", since it does not show up directly on the page as it is now with the subcategory. That's really what it comes down to, that [[:Category: Strong Bad Filmography]] does not show up on the emails. Oh, and the "anything" thing too.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:56, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

:::Funny, the IMDB is a suitable guide to determine the precedent for a voice over. To me the Filmography categories are proving to be more trouble then they are worth and a misapplication of the original intent of the category structure. I understand wanting an automatically generated list for the 12 main characters that show up in everything, but it seems from all the other character pages that the Wiki users are more than capable of manually tracking the appearances of even the most obscure psudo-characters.

The stucture:
<pre>Character->Filmography->Strong Bad Filmography->Strong Bad Email</pre>

:::makes a lot of sence to me. SB is in all but one email, which can be explained by a note. If having 100+ emails cluttering the SB filmography and being unnessicarily duplicated in the email list and in the email category doesnt bother you, then it wont bother me.

:::I guess I should get going on [[:Category: Biscuit Dough Hands Man Filmography]] while I'm at it. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 12:15, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

::::Your presentation just now does make a bit of sense. I'll have to see what others think. Though on that other issue, as I understood it, the filmography categories were never supposed to be extended beyond the 12 main characters. Somewhere along the line, this was not explained well enough and the whole thing took off. I think there's over fifty filmographies now. I'd be happy to draw a line somewhere. ([[:Category:The_Alien_Guy_Filmography]]?)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:24, 12 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Thank you!!!!!!!1111oneone ==

Thank You x 1 Billion [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

:Hey, no problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:07, 15 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Help Page ==

I'm confused on where to post questions in the [[Help:Contents|help]] section. Do we post it on the FAQ Discussion page or somewhere on the Main Page of the help section? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:The [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ|discussion page of the FAQ]]. Discussion and "talking" should never really be on a page. The headings on the [[Help:Contents|help]] page were set up by me back in late July and we never really fleshed them out. I'll fix it now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:20, 19 Oct 2004 (MST)

No Problem. And Thanks. -- [[USer:FireBird|FireBird]]

==Notes from The Mysterious Stranger==
Hello, Tommy-boy. I'm back, and in buisiness.
-- [[User:Mysterious-Stranger|Mysterious-Stranger]]

==Subpages==
If there are subpages, we should use them. Anybody agree? (You have too or else, TOM!)--[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 05:31, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

No. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

:Subpages are useful, but only for the right kinds of stuff, like adding an archive to a cluttered talk page, or some ''temporary'' user space separate from the rest of your user space for, say, a rewrite of a page. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:56, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Who's In Charge Of The Main Page Anyways? ==

Hiho. I'm not getting much of a response on the [[Talk:Main Page|Main Talk Page]], so I figured I'd go straight to the source, assuming that the source(s) are moderators. Anyways, here's my question. Who's in charge of the Main Page, not so much the look of it, I don't really care about that, but moreso the organization of the links to pages. Now I'm no moderator, but I was curious as to why the links are organized the way they are. Why are Inside Jokes part of Wiki Stuff, Yet Songs part of Knowledge Base? I've been thinking about the layout, and I belive I've figued out a good way of sortage, and am hoping for either a yes or a no. Either one, as long as I can maybe get some kind of explanation as to why they're sorted the way they are, should the answer be a no. Anyhoo, without further ado, I give you my sorting idea...

Basically it consists of the Knowledge Base containing ONLY the things listed on the H*R main page(s), and putting everything left over into Wiki Stuff. It would look something like this, and would have the added bonus of evening the two sections out, leaving External Links on the bottom...

(The Knowledge Base Stuff)

* [[Toons]]
** [[Strong Bad Email]]
** [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]
** [[Teen Girl Squad]]
** [[Powered By The Cheat]]
** [[Puppet Stuff]]
** [[Holiday Toons]]
* [[Games]]
* [[Characters]]
* [[Downloads]]
* [[Store]]
* [[Email]]
* [[Legal]]
* [[Main Pages]]
** [[Weekly Fanstuff]]
** [[Quote of the Week]]
** [[Sketchbook]]
* [[Museum]]
* [[Secret Pages]]

Then this to the right of it: (Perhaps the first part even in an additional section?)

* [[Places]]
* [[Items]]
* [[Songs]]
* [[Quotes]]
* [[Glossary]]
* [[Inside Jokes]]
* "Rejects"
(Perhaps another section here?)
* [[Special:Listusers|List of registered wiki users]]
* [[Links]]
* [[Sightings]]
* [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]]
* [[HRWiki:Ledger|Ledger]]
* [[HRWiki:Projects|Projects]]
* [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]
* [[WikiTroll]]
* [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|Welcoming committee]]

Then the external links in another catergory. Is there any problem with this layout? The idea behind it is that the first section are your main ingrediants, and the second one is things that you can make out of them. I just belive that things such as Rejects and Inside Jokes should be in the same catergory as things such as songs and items. Any answer to this would be much appreciated, and then I'll shut up about it. Thanks alot Tom. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 02:33, 20 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I'm not really sure. Your line of thinking makes sense, however I'm thinking it is our system of classification that really seems to be the issue. Inside Jokes? Rejects? What the heck are those really? Things need to be clearly defined and a system needs to be implimentated to classify things.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:57, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

Hmmm... Thats a good point. Okay, well at least keep my organizational idea in mind as you go about implementing the changes. And with that, I withdraw from the Main Page arguments and leave it in the rest of the Wiki's capable hands. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 16:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== STUFF and Fun Facts ==

As you may have read I have an issue with the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page. I am very glad someone has spearheaded an attempt to control the "fun fact" problem, but I still think that the voting and discussion for disputed Fun Facts should be made on the article's talk page and not on the STUFF page.

If a controversial article like [[Wikipedia:History of Israel]] can exist on the Wikipedia by using the Talk page and without resorting to a common page voting system, I think the Homestar Wiki article [[virus]] can too.

Now that we have people's attention with the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page I suggest that we move content discussion back to the Talk pages where they belong.

I have created a preliminary template:disputed

It reads as follows:{{disputed}}

This could be used to let contributors know that there is a dispute, and to direct them to the talk page. The Disputed Fun Facts link should go to a page with the info that [[User:furrykef |furrykef]] wrote on what is and is-not a good fun fact.

People were not using the talk pages effectively in the past, which is a failure of us the users, not of the talk pages.

-[[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 16:35, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I completely agree that talk pages are not effectively used by our users. I did read your comment on the talk page and did like some parts of it.

:You mentioned there that the popularity of the "Stuff" page is typical of a sloppy discussion forum and not an article based reference guide. I indeed was amazed at all the users who were very interested in voting. It appears that a quick vote and comment is much easier than proposing fixes and improvements.

:You also presented the idea that this problem inherent mostly because the Homestar Runner Universe is finite. I completely agree. I also believe this is why some users, instead of improving on articles that already exist, create very small articles for very fringe elements of said universe. While I don't think that the [[Stool]] article may be one of these, I'm not entirely interested in proposing other examples at this time.

:While this may not be the time or place to discuss your other comment on that talk page about proper classification, I believe it would be important to address that issue with whichever system is accepted for the dealing with fun facts.

:As [[User:furrykef|Kef]] noted in his reply to your comment, the STUFF process was loosely based on Wikipedia's Votes for Deletion process. I do like Wikipedia's VfD process and have participated in it in the past, but as you may notice we don't have a system like this for dealing with the deletion of pages because we are so small. It works for Wikipedia but would simply would not work for us.

:Throughout my travels around Wikipedia, I have seen several pages with notices like the one on the [[Wikipedia:History of Israel]] page. While I don't believe the scale of discussions here will every reach such a level as that, I am willing to investigate the possibility of using such a system.

:If we were to adopt your proposal, I would want some sort of centrally located instruction page. As you mention, this could contain some of Kef's rules from the STUFF page. I'd also want it to list all the pages that are currently going through the process.

:Of course, your proposal is in direct conflict with the current STUFF system, which the users seems to have latched on to. I like your proposal, but I'm interested in hearing how you would implement it given the current circumstances.

:Thank you for being bold enough to propose an alternative.

:[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Image Use Policy ==

Hi, I was just wondering about the special page "[[Special:Image_use_policy|Image Use Policy]]", accessable from the [[Special:Upload|Upload Page]]. It doesn't seem to have anything on it. Is there any way to fix that? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:35, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Good find. I've changed the link so that it goes to [[HRWiki:Image use policy]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:58, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Thanks, I'll get to work on that a bit later. Maybe cut and paste something from Wikipedia and go from there. In other news, were you aware that somebody turned the [[Floppy Disk Container]] into a redirect? Is this allowed? Do you condone this? If so, I'm sorry that I kind of hijacked your pride and joy and turned it into my own. I'll make it up to you, somehow... [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 01:25, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::I did notice that redirect and decided to not do anything about it. And the only thing we have now regarding images is what is in the [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|screenshot section]] on the Standards page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:15, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Things Noticed Page==
I didn't know there was a fansite wiki, but thanks for telling me! Sorry if I was being to rude about things noticed... -- [[User:Guy27|Guy27]] 12:02, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Poor Images==
''[In reply to a comment on [[User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf#Poor_images|User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]]]''

Yeah, hi. You asked how I made those pictures? Well, I have a screenshot program that only makes Jpegs (which I later save as PNG's), so you can see why the quality would be poor. 'Cause, you know, Jpegs are poor quality. Oh, and I like how you are constanly using [http://www.wikipedia.org WikiPedia] links.
---[[User:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf|Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]] 22:58, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] links are great. I'm curious as to what "screenshot program" you use. What operating system are you running? I know Windows captures raw image files to the clipboard with a simple push of the "print screen" key. These can be used in any image editing program, like the [[Wikipedia:Free software|free]] [http://www.gimp.org/ the GIMP]. They turn out much better than [[:Image:Kobe 1-4.png|other]] [[:Image:Kobe 2-4.png|images]] [[:Image:Kobe 2-4.png|you uploaded]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:52, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)
:''[Cross posted at [[User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf#Poor_images|User_talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]] at 17:54, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)]''

I use this thing called [http://www.screenshot-utility.com/ Screenshot Utility] as my, quote unquote, "screenshot program", if that's what you call those things. But anyway, I'm trying to download a new [http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/9220 "program of shots of screens"], but the downloading bar's been stuck at 77% for like, 10 minutes, so, I dunno.

==About blocking==

Hello, Tom! I don't mean to interfere with anything, but I noticed that you blocked 24.1.84.103 for defacing the Main Page when it looks like s/he was restoring it from another troll (and then it was trolled again by that "logan" kid).

Anyway, I really admire the work you've been doing on this Wiki. Gweat job...I mean, gweat job...I mean, gweat job. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:41, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Yeah man, that's my bad. Thanks. It's been fixed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:48, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Re: Rejects cat==

Just got your message. The reason I started the "project" is because, from my view, the Rejected Characters should be flagged not only from the Rejects page, but from their article itself. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:26, 28 Dec 2004 (EST)

:Your concern is understandable, but the whole "rejects" thing really isn't to Drhaggis and my liking. However I'm mostly at a loss at how to classify these things, but I'll ask Drhaggis, as putting things into categories is his speciality.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:33, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I think the "Rejects" page should be deleted. If we as a community have deemed a character or item "article worthy" we simply create the article and categorize it accordingly. I think "Rejects" are a hold over from the old Wiki that is not served by the capabilities of the new Wiki. There are few truly "Rejected" things; [[Dijjery-Doo]] for example was rejected by [[TBC]], but he has still popped up in [[for kids]].
: The Characters/Items/Places categories are a bit big, and can be grouped into sub categories. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 12:51, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Okay, sounds reasonable enough to me. However, how do you think we can go about this with minimal damage to the egos of those responsible for said Rejects? And I sure don't want anything to get lost.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:14, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I think we just need to delete the "Rejects" list. All the things that were previously deamed to be rejected already have articles so no data is lost, just the well done "...are a waste of time" banners on the page. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 13:23, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Whoa! Those things really ''are'' all categorizied. Okay, the page has been deleted, and all article links to it have been removed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:36, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Rejected Halloween Costumes Task ==

Hi Tom! Thunderbird here again, with a special task for a few of my fellow users. On the [[Sketchbook]] page, in the [[Sketchbook#In The Museum|Museum]] section of that page, the last picture is a bunch of rejected halloween costume ideas. The caption gives the challenge '10 bucks to anyone who can identify them all'. So what I propose is to identify them all. I've already set up a basic 'top left to bottom right' type list under the 'Description' section, with the two most obvious costumes in it. But can we get the other costumes, and win ourselves $10? Any costumes you know would be a help. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 02:14, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Update: The good Doctor Haggis was far faster with that task than I could have ever expected. All the costumes are done with the exception of one: The full body [[Marzipan]]. Many think that she is in fact Belle from Beauty & the Beast, but we're not quite sure about that. What are your thoughts? Any better ideas as to who this mystery Marzipans could be, or even just your opinion as to weather or not she's Belle? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 12:11, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Stu... ==

Any idea where [[User:Stu|Stu]] has been? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Yeah, I do. But you can ask him yourself. His email address is in his profile on the forum, or you could use the [[Special:Emailuser/Stu|MediaWiki user email thing]] if you have it set up correctly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:52, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Okay. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

== SsSp ==

I'd say [[SsSp]] passed the test. :-) --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 23:36, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Indeed. Hmm...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:21, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Glitch Template ==

Sorry about that! I was just experemeting w/ overflows, and It turned out that FF coulndent handle it. I didnt know how to deleat it! Firefox crashed while atempting to view it. Also, why dont they have protection on user pages? Couldend a WikiTroll Distroy sombodys page? How do i set <nowiki>→[[User:firefocman|''<tt>[[User:firefoxman|FireFox Man]]</tt>'']]</nowiki> As my siggi?
Thanks,
→[[User:firefocman|''<tt>[[User:firefoxman|FireFox Man]]</tt>'']]

:The Wiki can be edited by any person, but defacement never lasts. And here are [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Preferences#Your_nickname the instructions] to change your signature.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:31, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Sysop ==

How does one become a Sysop? It would be nice to be able to ban some Trolls. *chuckles* -[[User:firefoxman|Ω Lucas]] 15:23, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Certainly not by asking. Teh lame, don't you think? Also, please try to use the "Show preview" button before the "Save page" button.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:18, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

== My Work... Deleted!? ==

i noticed that you deleted my work on the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] page.. jw why...
-- Always cheating, never speaking, [[User:The Cheat|The Cheat]]

:[[HRWiki:Once And Only Once]]. Also, we simply don't list parts of things on the main page for something. For example, we don't list every time [[Strong Bad]] has said the word "crap" or made fun of [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:24, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Wikipedia ==

I hope the contacts that didn't happen over on Wikipedia were going to be good ones. Sometimes I worry that a fan is going to leave me messages about how I'm destroying the articles by removing "important information" about every Homsar Halloween Easter egg or some such. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]

== Giving props ==

Tom, you're my hero. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 15:37, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Sweet. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:43, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)

::I second that. You're everyone's hero. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

== Re: huttah! ==

You're right but wrong. You were correct that there was no evidence of a camera in The Cheat's room. However, my comment on the non-revert was due to the fact that the writer essentially plugged a personal comment into the middle of the transcript (which is NOT acceptable); upon seeing that, I admit that I barely read it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:31, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Understood. And you are right. I did not revert back to the writer's version, and did remove the commentary-like style. Thanks Jay.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Admin nomination ==

I'm not sure what ratio of administrators to users you are planning on maintaining, but I think [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] would make an excellent admin. Consider this a formal nomination. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Cool, I'll take this into consideration with the other admins. I'll keep you posted[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:57, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Back In The Lab Again ==

How have you been? I have been busy as crap recently. Whats happened with the wiki recently? --[[User:DeLoreanz1|DeLoreanz1]] 14:06, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I'm good, thanks for asking. As for recent things on the Wiki, I suppose the best place to look would be [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]. We pretty much just keep doing our thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:11, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

Good. I've been playing Yahoo Pool, watching James Bond, and messing with my electronics. --[[User:DeLoreanz1|DeLoreanz1]] 14:23, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Coach Z's Team ==

Can you tell me why [[Coach Z's Team]] was deleted? If we don't need it, why bother having an article for [[On Point Kings]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:20, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Beats me. Of course, the text
::''Coach Z's Team is a team coached by Coach Z, consisting of Homestar Runner and co. It's unknown what sport they play, while played on an football field, it also involves basketball hoops and a baseball being kicked around.''
:is hardly article worthy. So pretty much we know that Coach Z's team is coached by Coach Z and is a team. Was it ever even mentioned in a toon?
:Additionally, if you don't think [[On Point Kings]] is worth the article, you are welcome to bring it up on the respective talk page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:03, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

"text is hardly article worthy"?? I stubed the freakin' page. As being mentioned in a toon, the [[Yearbook Character Page]] is the only reference I could find. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:35, 14 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Okay. So you think the page was worth the article?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:47, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

Yes. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:22, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I don't. It doesn't provide any information that one couldn't figure out by just watching [[A Jorb Well Done]]. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Yet [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace USA]] doesn't provide any information that one couldn't figure out by just watching [[theme park]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 09:50, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Rock Opera Context Note ==

Tom,

Hello. I hope your day is well.

I disagree with your moving the work left to do on the rock opera context page to the discussion page, for the simple reason that NOBODY will see it there. If it can't be on the main page, then it should be deleted altogether, as it is serving no purpose.

The point of putting up the note was to aid people in knowing which words were still missing and at the same time encourage those die-hard troupers out there to help complete the page (kind of like a game). You know who I'm talking about: that special someone who is gonna figure out exactly which "I" was used from "lackey".

Therefore, I believe the note should be reinstated at the head of the main page. Besides, it's only temporary... just till we get this thing done.

Kind regards, 
[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:58, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I understand and appreciate your concern. However, articles are designed to be read as articles and nothing else. There should never be notes or instructions left for future editors. This is mentioned explicitly in the [[HRWiki:Standards#Don't use conversational style|don't use conversational style]] section of the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. Wiki users, especially the die-hard troupers you mention, know to look at Talk pages. That's what they are for.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

I see your point. I still don't completely like it, but at least I agree with you now. This particular page is close to my heart because I'm the one who set it up and got the ball rolling on filling in the words (although, I'll admit that ''someone'' would have done it eventually). It also happens to be the very first page I've created for the Wiki. I'm so pleased that the community has deemed the page useful and that they're helping to finish it with such vigor. I watch excitedly as each new entry is filled in. (I would do more research myself, but I've got this stupid ''job'' thing where I have to be if I want money. You probably know how that goes.)

Cheers, 
[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:49, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

:No problem. I'll remove the note again. I'd also like to bring to your attention the [[HRWiki:Projects]] page. That might be a better spot for you to put a note.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:10, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

==[[Strong Bad Email By Name]] Tables?==

I've put tables up on the A's and B's section of [[Strong Bad Email By Name]]. What do you think of this? Do you think it's better? Any suggestions as to how the tables should be better? Should I leave it as 'N/A', ''N/A'', 'None', or just leave it blank or something? Any input or blessing would be much appreciated. I'm just gonna leave it there until I get some kinda direction from a higher power (I.E., Mod). Thanks.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:59, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Looks like you got a good respose on [[Talk:Strong Bad Email By Name#Tables|the talk page for the article]]. Looks good.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Yea, [[User:Jay|Jay]] was a big help. Thanks anyways.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:15, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==We Need A Mod==

On the H*R updates page, (the main one), I think the disclaimer at the top needs rewording a bit since we now have the navigation box. But it's a protected page. So we can't change it. Can you? It doesn't really need any of those links anymore, since they're all in the box. Thanks.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:15, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:54, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

== NYU Video ==

I know I probably shouldn't put this on your wiki, but on your website, the link to the NYU video is dead or something. Do you have any advice on how to open it? I was there, but I'd love to see it again! And this way, I won't have to stand outside in the cold for 2 hours holding a yellow sign to get tickets again.

NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

Homeschool Winner — Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:06:10 GMT

Homeschool Winner: The info about the animations on an airplane was wrong

On March 1, 2005, [[The Brothers Chaps]] appeared at a talk at New York University. A brief summary of what they did follows:

* First Matt and Mike sat downstairs in the lobby of NYU's Kimmel Student Center signing autographs and talking to fans. At least on two separate occasions, Matt was willing to talk on people's cellphones as Strong Bad and/or Homestar.
* Matt and Mike aren't much for introductions; they opted to start by showing off an early cut of a humorous sequel to "Sample of Style" (on the DVD) where TBC told how they made the characters move (a "how do you animate the characters" answer). They parodied the "motion capture" greenscreen and ping-pong-ball setup, much like that used for Gollum in Lord of the Rings. This was an early cut; they're bound to release this someday in a more concise format.
* They also showed the Peasants Quest video, followed by a special feature where they simply played video of Matt fixing the hair of his fake wig. Later, they showed some footage that took shots from the video and removes each special effect one at a time.
* They showed an old planned feature that never happened where Bubs shows a bunch of Bazooka Joe comics, mostly making fun of the fact that they rarely had punchlines.
* They showed Coach Z's "These peoples try to fade me" video, a hidden track on the CD.
* The results of their "lets animate a cartoon on the plane!" competition. Mike made one with a fridge on a beach with some really well-animated grass here and there. There were some notes on it written from a father to his kids. The other cartoon made by Matt took some of the flight safety card drawing and animated them, including one where an airbag and a passenger have a conversation, and another where a passenger about to exit out the emergency door look out the window to see fish swimming by.
* They explained the origins of the Homestar Puppet and the Bubs With Growling Teeth and a Horn doll; both were samples sent by a Japanese company (pretty sure it's the one that makes Cheat dolls).
* A funny puppet short with Homestar travelling around the NYU Area. Whether a condensed version of this will appear on the site has yet to be seen.

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