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Jakeroth — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:59:06 GMT

Jakeroth:

Hi, My name is Jake. I am 12 years old, but I am well skilled at computers.
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I started watching Homestar Runner in 2007. I enjoy electronics, the Wii, Homestar Runner, karate, skiing, and Sam and Max.

You may feel free to call me Weeblerjake, or preferably just Weebler.

jakeroth

Talk:Main Page 25

Jakeroth — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:01:42 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Little Extras

==Homestar and Homestar==
Now, does this count as an instance of [[Homestar Runner and Homestar Runner's relationship]]? The two interact, but unlike the usual gag, there are actually two of them. Notably, the "real" Homestar appears not to recognize the second... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Tail end of sounds ==

When I view the button events, the beginning of the next button's sound plays at the end. Is this only happening to me? I tried reloading and it didn't work. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:It's a glitch with certain versions of flash player, happens all the time. Not notable. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Puppets ==

Isn't the Store puppet the one from that easter egg? (Sorry, forget the email.)
:Yes. As the fun facts say, "The second Homestar that appears was previously seen in [[strong badathlon]]." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 11:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Homsar's James ==

Shouldn't somebody mention that Homsar pronounced "games" on his homepage the same way that Marshie does here?
:The mispronunciation of G is noted and its link references Homsar's pronunciation, so I don't think it's necessary. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 14:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Unimpressive ==

So, is anyone else unimpressed by this new Main Page? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 11:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:This isn't the forums. [[User:Sarette|Sarette]] 15:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Little Extras ==

Don't know how to add this, so I'll post it here.

Homestar bounces to the beat of Everybody Knows it when Toons is rolled over.

He also trembled when he sees Marshie in Games.

Main Page 25

Jakeroth — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:09:36 GMT

Jakeroth:

{{mainnav|25|24|1}}
[[Image:Main25.PNG|220px|thumb|"I need those downloads on my desk by five!"]]

The puppets create a main page.

'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|The Cheat}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Marshie}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] [[Doreauxgard]], [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] [[Homestar Runner]], [[Shark-Tooth Bubs|Shark-Tooth]] {{Film|Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The Office]]

'''Icon:''' Puppet Homestar

'''Page title:''' Sponsored by Hollerin' Jimmy's Hobby Kits!

'''Date:''' Monday, August 25, 2008

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — The Cheat walks by, holding an inflatable boom box. He makes some The Cheat noises as he passes.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — Marshie appears and says "Hey juys, wanna play some james?!" Homestar replies, "Uh... not with you, creepazoid!" Then Marshie disappears.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — A red curtain with images of Homestar and Doreauxgard falls. After Homestar says "Characters", Doreauxgard appears and says, "Character? You ain't got no character, whitey! I'm outta here!" and leaves. The curtain rises.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — The scene shifts to the water cooler in the office. Homestar's outfit changes to his bis cas fri outfit. He says, "I need those downloads on my desk by five!" Strong Bad peers in, also in business casual and holding a coffee cup, and says, "Goin' on my seventh coffee run. You want anything?"
*'''[[Store]]''' — A second Homestar puppet appears and says, in a very non-Homestar-ish voice and without moving his mouth, "The store." The original Homestar asks "Who are you?" The second replies, "Well, I am the exact same."
*'''[[Email]]''' — After Homestar says "Email", a hand holding Shark-Tooth Bubs appears. He says, "Is it like an email pie of some kind, or maybe barf bags, all that good stuff?"

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*The only "puppet" that appeared before this main page that was not included was [[Frank Bennedetto]].
*This is the website debut of the Doreauxgard puppet, who had previously only been seen in [[Interviews and Public Appearances|public appearances]].
*The day this Main Page debuted, [[Main Page 23]] did not link to it.
*The song playing on The Cheat's boombox is [[Everybody Knows It]].

===Remarks===
*The new button style was previously used in [[Main Page 24]].
===Inside References===
*This contains an instance of [[duplicate characters]].
*The second Homestar that appears was previously seen in [[strong badathlon]].
*The page title mentions [[Hollerin' Jimmy's Hobby Kit]].
*Marshie mispronounces [[G#Mispronunciation_of_G|G]].
*This marks the first speaking appearance of [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] on the website. In [[theme park]], he was accessed as an Easter egg and did not speak.
*"Barf bags" is a reference to [[puking]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:main25.html|go to Main Page 25]]
*[[HR:main25.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 25]]
*[[Forum:14664|forum thread re: Main Page 25]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category: Main Pages]]
[[Category: Puppet Stuff]]

Main Page 25

Jakeroth — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:08:39 GMT

Jakeroth:

{{mainnav|25|24|1}}
[[Image:Main25.PNG|220px|thumb|"I need those downloads on my desk by five!"]]

The puppets create a main page.

'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|The Cheat}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Marshie}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] [[Doreauxgard]], [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Puppet Character Variations|Puppet]] [[Homestar Runner]], [[Shark-Tooth Bubs|Shark-Tooth]] {{Film|Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The Office]]

'''Icon:''' Puppet Homestar

'''Page title:''' Sponsored by Hollerin' Jimmy's Hobby Kits!

'''Date:''' Monday, August 25, 2008

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — The Cheat walks by, holding an inflatable boom box. He makes some The Cheat noises as he passes.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — Marshie appears and says "Hey juys, wanna play some james?!" Homestar replies, "Uh... not with you, creepazoid!" Then Marshie disappears.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — A red curtain with images of Homestar and Doreauxgard falls. After Homestar says "Characters", Doreauxgard appears and says, "Character? You ain't got no character, whitey! I'm outta here!" and leaves. The curtain rises.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — The scene shifts to the water cooler in the office. Homestar's outfit changes to his bis cas fri outfit. He says, "I need those downloads on my desk by five!" Strong Bad peers in, also in business casual and holding a coffee cup, and says, "Goin' on my seventh coffee run. You want anything?"
*'''[[Store]]''' — A second Homestar puppet appears and says, in a very non-Homestar-ish voice and without moving his mouth, "The store." The original Homestar asks "Who are you?" The second replies, "Well, I am the exact same."
*'''[[Email]]''' — After Homestar says "Email", a hand holding Shark-Tooth Bubs appears. He says, "Is it like an email pie of some kind, or maybe barf bags, all that good stuff?"

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*The only "puppet" that appeared before this main page that was not included was [[Frank Bennedetto]].
*This is the website debut of the Doreauxgard puppet, who had previously only been seen in [[Interviews and Public Appearances|public appearances]].
*The day this Main Page debuted, [[Main Page 23]] did not link to it.
*The song playing on The Cheat's boombox is [[Everybody Knows It.]]

===Remarks===
*The new button style was previously used in [[Main Page 24]].
===Inside References===
*This contains an instance of [[duplicate characters]].
*The second Homestar that appears was previously seen in [[strong badathlon]].
*The page title mentions [[Hollerin' Jimmy's Hobby Kit]].
*Marshie mispronounces [[G#Mispronunciation_of_G|G]].
*This marks the first speaking appearance of [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] on the website. In [[theme park]], he was accessed as an Easter egg and did not speak.
*"Barf bags" is a reference to [[puking]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:main25.html|go to Main Page 25]]
*[[HR:main25.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 25]]
*[[Forum:14664|forum thread re: Main Page 25]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category: Main Pages]]
[[Category: Puppet Stuff]]

Talk:Main Page 25

Jakeroth — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:05:09 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Puppets

Talk:The Baloneyman

Jakeroth — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:49:30 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Nothing For Coach Z

== 2 things ==

1. Should the preview or whatever pic (the one at the top) have a caption that matches the scene it's in? 
2. I think the 'Unrecognizable Summer Movie Tie-in' sammich is shaped like a plane, not a star. (look at the 'fin' things on the sides). {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 22:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:1. I don't think it matters... 2. I didn't really try to interpret what that thing was very well, so change it if you want. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 22:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, I thought the "Unrecognizable Summer Movie Tie-in" resembled one of Batman's throwing bats (which I learned yesterday are called "Glaives", kind of like a Shuriken, only bigger and able to return like a boomerang). I assumed it had to do with "The Dark Knight" coming out (It's kind of "The Sequel!" to Batman Begins). [[Special:Contributions/71.161.73.21|71.161.73.21]] 00:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Worldy / Warbly ==
Also, does Homestar say wordly or warbly at the end? {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 22:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:I heard Wordly [[User:Mista Mono|Mista Mono]] 22:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
::I heard Warbly. (I made the change to the transcript before seeing it was discussed here). {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 22:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

== Yella Paint ==
Why does Strong Bad have yellow stuff on his head during his discussion with Homestar? Are we to assume his sandwich-cicle had mustard on it? Or is this a referecne I'm not getting? {{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 23:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:He has the mustard on his face. [[User:Mista Mono|Mista Mono]] 23:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

== put that thing through its paces/bases ==

I'm pretty sure Coach Z says put that thing through its paces, not bases (that is [http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/put+through+paces the phrase] after all).

Yeah but hes known to mess stuff up: ::by jaredtoy

:No, i hear paces. messing up here wouldn't be funny... He only messes up when it's funny. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== They fixed it ==

I just watched it again and the previously changing sandwich is now a taste tested one throughout the whole short. I therefor changed the remark.--[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 15:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Nothing For Coach Z ==

I don't know if you guys want to add this or something, but I think Coach Z can't get anything not because of Bubs, because the King of Town ate everything. The napkin was all he had left.

Talk:The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw

Jakeroth — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:59:44 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Big Knife?

== How long has it been and is it relevant? ==
What I'm saying is has the "Children's book world" become relevant enough for mention, if it doesn't have its own page already? I know that the characters are mentioned (see [[Prince of Town]] ), but what about the universe? Also on top of that, was this last seen in sbemail 150 or after that? Thanks. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 14:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

This was last seen in sbemail "hundreth." It's been there since the tandy 365. On a side note, I was trying to make this for a while, but It wouldn't let me. The website just sent me to my website editor and didn't even let me do anything.[[User:F123979|F123979]]

How many times was it actually seen though is my question. I can only think of 3 off the top of my head [[origins]], [[alternate universe]], and sbemail 100. That isn't counting this short, and also not counting the versions of the actual books available on the site, which have a similar animation style but different scenery in the background. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 14:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:I would point you to [[Storybook World]] for all the answers you see. {{User:Flashfight/sig}} 14:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::That actually isn't mentioned under the big list in [[Homestar Runner universe]], nor could I find it when I searched.....odd. Next Time, I'll use the wiki internal search engine. Anyway, yeah that was what I was asking about. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 14:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::: I fixed it! {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==New Stuff goof?==
While checking to make sure [[New Stuff]] list was trimmed, I noticed that another entry for this toon was located at the bottom of the list as well as the top. Should this mentioned here or over on the [[New Stuff]] page? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==Transcript==

Transcript should destinguish between narrarator stro bro and storybokk characters.

== Question Mark? ==

On the cover for The Strong Sad Wets Yonder Bed, there is a faint question mark on the bedspread. Thoughts? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that was intentially put there, though the purpose of it is beyond me.--[[User:DENNIS|DENNIS]] 02:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::I can't find the question mark. I remember I noticed it, but now I can't even see it. Perhaps it's been removed? {{User:Super Turtle/sig}} 13:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
:::After a more careful image analysis (e.g. not going by what the Firefox extension ColorZilla displays, since it doesn't seem to work properly on Flash content), it's still there. The difference is very small though: top of cover, ?. I've inverted the question mark in [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/YonderQuestionMark.png this screenshot] so that it can actually be seen. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== Lands' End ==

*[[Wikipedia:Lands' End|Lands' End]] is a clothing retailer that specializes in casual clothing, luggage, and home furnishings. It is also [[Wikipedia:Land's End|a part of Cornwall]] and a location in [[Wikipedia:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]].

I just removed this... if there was *ever* such a thing as a "TTATOT" fact, *this* is it. Given the context, I can't see it referring to *any* of these things, especially considering this is *already covered in Explanations*. -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
: I'd imagine it's one of those (I would guess the clothing retailer) but the fact that there are three Land's' Ends signifies that we should treat it as TTATOT unless we know for sure, agreed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:: The reason we exclude most TTATOTs is because if something could refer to many things (and especially if these things are a stretch), then it probably refers to nothing in particular. That said, TBC didn't make up the term and in this case were more than likely intending to refer to ''something'', which is notable in the article. There's got to be a way to include it that either acknowledges the ambiguity or goes with the most popular use of the term. Perhaps we could pick the best one and also link to the disambiguation page:
:::''[[Wikipedia:Lands' End|Lands' End]] is a clothing retailer that specializes in casual clothing, luggage, and home furnishings. The term also has several [[Wikipedia:Land's End (disambiguation)|other uses]].''
::[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::It's as likely as not, however, that the reference is simply to "Land sakes" and they chose a common similar phrase, without having any real thought that it was one of any of the possible meanings over another. Certainly none of the suggested Lands Ends bear any semantic relationship to the plot. I say no mention, save here, unless we learn otherwise that it was intended to reference one of them. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Dot com is correct in that, if the Lands Ends have different origins and one is most likely, it's not really TTATOT. The question is a) which is most likely (though consensus seems to be on the clothing manufacturer) and b) are the origins really different (At least between the clothes and Cornwall, I don't know, actually... but they're probably different enough anyway that we could stick with one.) If we accept those premises, then it's a special case of not-quite-TTATOT that is different from a true TTATOT. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I think the question needs to be whether we think TBC used the phrase intentionally. If the consensus is that it's more likely than not, then we need a link pointing somewhere, even if we're wrong in our guess (which is why we'd also include the disambig). I think it's more likely than not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm confident it's referring to the clothing retailer because a shirt had just shown up. It's like the mailman showing up with the stuff you ordered from the catalog. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}
::::::Ah... I'm shocked it took this long for anyone to point that out, actually... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hmm. Makes sense, I suppose. Still, it's kind of a stretch, and I'm more apt to believe it's a play on the expression (which was listed in Explanations, until an IP removed it). At any rate, it's *certainly* not referring to "a part of Cornwall" or "a location in Super Mario RPG". -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I thought it was a reference to the clothing company anyway, but ACupOfCoffee's point completely convinces me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I still feel it is only as likely as not, not more. And I don't argue that they "accidentally" used something that means a bunch of things, I think they as likely as not used it for its phonetic comic value without regard to its semantic value whatsoever. While the "clothing delivery" argument is cute, it doesn't compel me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Land's end the clothing retailer is by far the most common appearance of this phrase today, and I immediately got a chuckle out of it as I saw TBC using this clothing retailer's name as an exclamation due to its similarity to exclamations like "land sakes!". I don't think this fact is at all dubious. --[[User:Tim333]] 01:14 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with both Tim here and Dot com. And anyone else posing an agreement here. If anything, it's most likely the clothes thingie. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I too echo Tim.-[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 06:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well, the "dubious" part of the fact was that there were so many possibilities, all of which were listed in the article. Three there, *and* one in Explanations. This fact getting added back in a condensed form won't hurt my feelings any, if it's more "absolute". There needed, more than anything, to be a consensus of what it *was* referring to, as there was no way it referred to all four (rather, it *does* seem like a combination of "land sakes!" and the clothing company, given the context), and I can't think of any reason whatsoever why we should include a Wikipedia disambig link for "other uses" of the term. We didn't do that for "[[Talk:nightlife#Soma|Soma]]" back in [[nightlife]] (we didn't even include *one* use of it *there*), so there's no reason we should do it *here*, either. -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::You've never heard of a double entendre then? The appearance of an article of clothing and Homestar's subsequent exclamation which just happens to be not quite the usual, more common "land sakes!" but instead the name of a popular clothing manufacturer seems more than just a phonetically comic coincidence to me. "Land Slide!" or "Land Ho!" just wouldn't have held the comic value that "Lands' End" conveys in this context (although I think TBC could probably find great usage for the phrase “Land Ho!” in their cartoons if they really wanted to). The phrase sticks out like a sore thumb when it appears in the toon and was also quickly and easily recognized by more than a few random people as the clothing manufacturer as evidenced by this thread (I'd never even heard the other uses). I think it's more than obvious that the phrase was deliberately chosen and used based upon BOTH the corruption of the common saying and upon the clothing context. Unfortunately, when we have to dissect the joke to keep it from getting erased off the wiki, it just isn't funny anymore. –DaOysterboy 10:30 April 15, 2008

I removed that unnecessary "...other uses" bit, and it immediately got re-added. Double standards, considering this is just as random as Strong Bad's usage of the word "Soma" in [[nightlife]], but if you want to include a fun fact that '''actively states''' that something refers to "this, that, and this other thing", be my guest. I don't have any further desire to argue against something this ridiculous. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:08, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

:Why not just write that "Land's End" was used as a double entendre, instead of arguing about it? I don't see how leaving the article like it is would help the confusion.--[[User:DENNIS|DENNIS]] 01:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think it's confusing. We're pretty sure it's a reference. We ''think'' the reference is to the clothing company, so we say so. Since we're not 100% certain, however, we give a link to alternatives, so the reader can decide. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

:::But isn't it also a corruption of "land sakes"? Shouldn't that be mentioned in the article?--[[User:DENNIS|DENNIS]] 01:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Yes, that's just it. We're not ''sure'' what it's referring to. But we *can* be certain it's '''not''' referring to "an area in Super Mario RPG", for instance. I've '''never''' seen a "...other uses" link on this wiki before. If we aren't certain what something is referring to, we tend to leave it on the talk page; we *certainly* don't list multiple possibilities. -{{User:YK/sig}} 03:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::This seems like an appropriate time to make an exception to our general practice. It's obvious we give the most weight to the chothing line while acknowledging that it's a guess, and the link to the disambiguation page is short and not in the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::Just to add, YK, you seem to continue to compare this situation to "Soma," but keep in mind the situation is not completely analogous. Here we have a guess at which reference is the most likely, whereas for "Soma", that was not the case (indeed, there wasn't really a lot of evidence that soma was a reference at all, whereas in this case, it is highly probable). -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 04:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::No, no. You miss my point here. I'm not arguing against the reference to the clothing company; I'm arguing against the "...other uses" link, as there is *no good reason* for it. Other than the "land sakes" expression (I still say it's a combination of the two), there's just nothing else in the disambig page it's at all likely referring to. As for the "Soma" incident... for the record, there seems to be a misunderstanding; it seems that many people are assuming everything came from Strong Bad pronouncing "Somekindaguy" as "Soma-keenda-gooey". However, he actually *typed* "Soma" at one point, and I saw just as many hints in the talk page pointing to it being a reference to Brave New World ("smart drinks", primarily; several people thought so, I wasn't one, but that isn't really important or relevant here), yet we didn't include anything regarding that, even though the connection was just as "there" as this one. "Changing standards" for the entire wiki to forgive one fact that borders on TTATOT is absurd. What's to stop us, in that case, from putting a fun fact "'Soma' can <nowiki>[[wikipedia:Soma_(Disambiguation)|refer to many things]]</nowiki>." in the [[nightlife]] RWRs? I honestly can't believe the direction this is headed in. Sure, we have an *idea* of what this "Land's End" thing is referring to... but is the disambig link *really* necessary? It's '''talk page''' material, not something we've tended to include in articles. -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:52, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Personally, I agree that we don't need the "other uses" bit, but then I'm pretty convinced it's a reference to the clothing company and nothing else on that disambig page. If I weren't quite so convinced of this, well... I guess I could see the place for this link, but I'm not sure. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 11:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I'll just chime in here to say that my position is similar to Trey's. I think that including the disam in this particular case (especially the bit about being a location in the Mario RPG) is done because there are other ''possible'' but not necessarily ''probable'' references. I think what got the entry pulled in the first place is because other users piled on other uses, cluttering and distracting, and leading other users to conclude this was a case of TTATOT. Soma, on the other hand, I don't think ever had that problem. No, I wouldn't encourage the use of disam page linking, but as a preventative or clearly ambiguous case, I think it's appropriate. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::YK: Until such time as there is a consensus that "Lands' End" is unequivocally referring to the clothing company, then yes, the disambig is ''really'' necessary. As long as there is reasonable doubt, then it needs to stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::How about this dot com... As '''nobody''' has really argued in favor of '''anything''' other than the clothing manufacturer since ACupOfCoffee made his point, and several people have stated their confidence in the clothing manufacturer reference, we wait for someone to come up with a compelling reason for it to be '''anything else''' on the disambig page before saying that it is ''really'' necessary. It isn't necessary, nobody has displayed "reasonable doubt" and changing the general practice sets a bad precedent to maintain future uniformity on the wiki. [[User:DaOysterboy|Changing the world, one ugwy buwd at a time.]] 17:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== The Wii Version ==

Since my Lappy's Flash player might still be bloken I had to watch this thing on the Wii Internet Channel. I noticed all the onscreen text, including the words on the covers and the Compy, turned invisable and the final scene was 3 people, floppy discs, and a computer screen floating in white space. Are these flaws notable, or were they caused by the dated Flash player again? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:As a general rule, failure to work in an old Flash player isn't notable. If it failed to work in the current Flash player, that would be notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)I'm not sure at all why this has been removed from the article twice. That WiiWare game thing Strong Bad announced had a glitch on it, and it's not a glitch for the toon, just the Wii. EEUNGH!
::Opera (The Wiinet browser, if nobody knew that) is Flash 7 (or maybe 8) standard and hasn't been able to run any toons successfully for me in a least 3 weeks. I'm not counting anything released before 3 weeks ago and I haven't tried the newest sbemails yet. I think the TBC upgraded. Also, it can't run game demos on GameStop.com, if the game has one. [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 21:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see what the problem could be. If toons worked before, and TBC used Flash 8 (for compression) then, why haven't they been working as of late?
::::It's entirely possible that they're using Flash CS3 now. -[[User:Pat|Pat]] 08:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Isn't it conceivable that Nintendo released a console update which removed compatibility? It may sound a bit silly, but they've done it before. We used to have compatibility with, um...uh...shoot. I can't remember, but they removed whatever it was in an update only about eight months after the console's release. Plus, I've noticed that their frequency of actually ''telling'' the Wii owner about the change, with a bulletin or something...is pretty rare. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 13:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

:::::It's also a fact that before several toons ago, TBC stuck to the normal Flash MX / 5 standards. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::::Actually, they've been using the Flash 5/8 combo since a little after the Flashforward Conference. But those flash toons seem to work. I'd go with what Onamuji said a lil' bit, because even the (recently updated) Vii version of [[TROGDOR!]] works fine, and that was probably ".swf'd" in Flash 8. Maybe it's just your Wii? Any other Wiim'n who have this problem, please say so. Maybe even upload some sorta' screenshot just to help solve this problem. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 06:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Decompiling the swf of this toon and buried, which is almost two months old, shows version numbers of 8 and 7 respectively. Seems to be that TBC ''have'' upgraded and in doing so went past what Internet Channel could reliably support. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

== Move? ==

Since the Toons Menu simply calls this, "[[Homestar Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]]", should we move this article to that name? If I must bring up a past example, we called the 10th anniversary special by its menu title ([[Strongest Man in the World]]) instead of its title card title ([[The Homestar Runner Enters the Strongest Man in the World Contest]]). [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know, I'd say we should keep it the same. In the toon itself, it says, "The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In his Craw." The Toons menu might just have it shortened so that it can fit. {{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}} 22:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::Leaving it under this name would be inconsistent with my past example. Do you want the 10th anniversary article to be moved? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::[http://www.bartleby.com/59/3/foolishconsi.html A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.] This is a fancy way of saying it's not always smart to be perfectly consistent. As Saddy suggests, this longer title would not likely have fit on the toons page. Furthermore, the character in the book is consistently called "The Homestar Runner" with the integral article, and the current title is consistent with that. By contrast, having the 10th anniversary toon at [[Strongest Man in the World]] avoids the ambiguity with [[Original Book]], and thus there's a good reason to use the toons menu title here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::::One of the problems with choosing the Toons menu as our standard is that it's ''our'' standard, but not necessarily TBC's. I'm not saying we should abandon our standard completely, merely that we should know when is the best time to deviate from it. I think this is one such time. "Homestar Gets..." just seems incomplete compared to "The Homestar Runner Gets..." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I agree. This is supposed to be an old kids book, where Homestar is called The Homestar Runner.--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 01:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

== Frustration of frustrations! ==

Okay. I know I'm the one who supplied this, so I might come off as a bit overprotective, but let's look at this factoid logically.
*Homestar's interjection of "Lands End!" is likely a corruption or misinterpretation of "land's sakes" or "land o' Goshen." 
I'm really not sure I understand why this has been removed twice. Now, the first time was an anonny with no argument whatsoever, so I undid it. The second removal, however, was by Loafing, and I ain't that super brave!. Plus edit wars are no fun. My point here is, this factoid, while involving Homestar's exclamation, has ''nothing'' to do with the TTATOT discussion higher up the page. While I won't even bother with all the places "land's end!" refers to, I think it safe to say that no one uses "land's end" as an interjection on a regular basis. Right? 
It follows, then, that the exclamation had to have ''some'' basis in reality, and wasn't just randomness (although I know it's not like there's no precedent for that sort of thing. Homsar.). It's a simple point: people (mostly elderly people, as far as I'm aware) use "land's sakes" or "Land o' Goshen" as interjections, ''not'' "lands end." Can't everyone agree that this is fact? I mean, it makes no conjectures about whether Land's End is a Mario reference or a clothing reference (both of which seem highly likely here), nor anything else. 
Maybe the factoid would be clearer as:
*Homestar's interjection of "Lands End!" is likely a corruption or misinterpretation of the more common ''[old-fashioned?]'' interjections "land's sakes" or "land o' Goshen." 
Since I wanna be a nice guy, though, I'm not gonna undo the edit removal until I have some backup here on de Talk page. Can I get an unrestricteeeed? 
...and can somebody get the Schoolhouse Rock interjection song out of my head, please?--{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 13:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

:I thought the similarity between Homestar's "Lands End" and the phrase "Land Sakes" was fairly obvious in the toon (although I've never heard of "land o' Goshen" being used as an interjection... at least not in CO/UT where I'm at). The only reason that I could see for removing it is that it's simply too obvious. If I may say so though, the wiki as long as I've known it has been pointing out the most obvious of jokes as long as I've used it. I see no reason to remove it. -DaOysterboy 10:48 April 15, 2008

:I would assume it was removed due to the above discussion. I only removed the "Real-World Reference" trio... For what it's worth, I felt (and still feel) that your explanation is the most likely... though as I said above, it seems like a double joke. -{{User:YK/sig}} 17:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

::What is Land O'Goshen? {{unsigned|76.247.47.58|02:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)}}

== Job ==
I had origionally made the refrence to Coach Zee saying job, but had not done it quite clearly. Thank you to whoever fixed it and made it more accurate and clear. {{unsigned|Ultranoodles|20:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)}}

== Is this an inside reference? ==

In the book, it says "pronounced Coach Zee". Is this perhaps a reference to the Halloween toon "The House That Gave Sucky Treats" when Coach Z introduces himself? "My name is Coach Z. Pronounced with an "oach Z." Or am I just reading too far into it?--[[User:66.172.100.207|66.172.100.207]] 22:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
:No, sorry, it's a reference to [[Where my hat is at?]].--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 01:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not referring to the use of "Zee" rather than "Z". I'm referring to the use of "pronounced" right before his name.--[[User:66.172.100.207|66.172.100.207]] 19:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I see your angle, but I think it's a stretch. More likely, his "said" verb is "pronounced" because everything he says is pronounced wrong. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

== Ghost man? ==

Do we already have a page on the running gag of Strong Sad being called a ghost? 'Cuz I can think of at least three references off the top of my head: 1. In myths & legends, Strong Bad calls Strong Sad an "elephant-footed ghost man" 2. In That A Ghost, Strong Bad thinks Sickly Sam is a ghost because he is in the grave 3. In this toon, Strong Bad replaces SS's name with "the ghost of Christmas suck." Whether or not you agree with one or two of these instances, I really think we should have a page about this...if we don't already. Tell me your thoughts! --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 19:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

== When he puts on the star shirt... ==
When The Homestar Runner puts on his new star shirt, it looks like he flips it when he puts it on. If this was true though, his shirt would be upside down. Does anyone else notice this?--[[User:Ifreakinhatesibbie|Ifreakinhatesibbie]] 00:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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:He actually doesn't flip it, though it does seem like it. You can install the greasemonkey script and confirm it, frame by frame, though. He puts it on normally. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 00:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

== Big Knife? ==

Could SB's knife possibly be the Big Knife? Same design and whatnot, just smaller.

Talk:buried

Jakeroth — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:36:48 GMT

Jakeroth: /* Indiana Jones reference? */

== With His Pairs? ==

can anybody tell what strong bad is saying during the first line of his email song? i wrote "pans" in the transcript, but not only does that make absolutely no sense, but i think i can hear an "r" in there. suggestions? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 16:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's "With this pants", not only because that's definitely what I hear, but it's also a [[pants|running gag]]. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 17:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::well the second line he definitely says "with his pants", but that's why i don't think that's the first line he says --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 17:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::I heard pants twice, myself.. the first could be something like "parnts", but other than "parents" which it really didn't sound like, I can't think of anything else that's close to. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::It's [[pants]]. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 18:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::I heard pants. And since everyone (especially Strong Bad) knows that randomly inserting pants into your sentences makes them much more hilarious, I think it's pants too. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 03:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Homeschool ==

I'm pretty sure I saw Homeschool Winner's skull on the drawing Strong Bad made of what could lie a few feet beneath Strong Badia. Is this notable? [[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 17:10, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I thought that too. Though it could just be some other dinosaur's half-skeleton. --[[User:71.113.62.14|71.113.62.14]] 18:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The conclusions we're drawing about Homeschool winner, and how it's a reference to that Sample of style toon seems like a stretch to me. I'm not convinced it's even supposed to be him.
On a related note, I see that death was already linked. My mistake. I'm sure it'll get resolved though. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 19:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:Ok, maybe the reference to Sample of Style I made was a little stretchy. Buy I '''do''' think this is Homeschool. Just look at that overbite and elongated skull. It's unmistakable. So I just drew the conclusion that "dead + Homeschool = Sample of Style". I could be wrong, this is up for debate, but there is no way that this is not Homeschool Winner. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::i concur re: homeschool winner, and although i wouldn't insist on it, i can understand where the sample of style connection can be made ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 20:30, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Nonetheless, he should not be listed in the cast, as he's simply in a picture. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::::In my defense, this thread was about his appearance, and my question was about the connection to [[sample of style]] but yes, in retrospect, it could easily have gone here. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]]
:::::I don't think its as much of a reference to S-of-S than it is to just his "disappearance as a character status". They've talked about him more than the other "almost characters" like Champeen, probably because he's the most famous one-to-two-time-appearance character the site has in my eyes. Besides, have they made that many references to the DVD bonus features before? Closing, I just don't think its ''just'' a reference to Sample of Style, if a reference to that at all. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 20:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Different Town tie-in? ==

Should there be an inside reference about the "box filled up with peas" in the picture and how it was mentioned in [[different town]]? If so, what needs to be said about it?
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 18:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:Oh! Good eye! I wondered what that cube was. But if it's peas, why does KoT want to eat it? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::it's not the box he wants to eat, it's the layers of earth. the box is just the trigger associated with the KWOT --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 18:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Nickelodeon game-show reference? ==

I remember watching game shows on Nickelodeon when I was a kid, and metal detectors were often awarded as prizes on one of them. Does anyone else remember this? And more importantly, does anyone else remember what show? (I'm thinking [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Dare_%281986_game_show%29 Double Dare]. Or was it more than one show that did this?)

There's a "Real World Reference" in this somewhere, I just can't quite pin it down. Anyone?
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 19:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

:Well, after some googling, best I could come up with was [http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/community/related/starcade/ Starcade], which I've never personally heard of, but it sounds right up TBC's alley. The article says they had metal detectors as prizes. (ETA: oops, forgot to sign) --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 20:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

::TBC have remarked in the G4 interview that they love Starcade, so it's definitely possible. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 04:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Well, I put a link to starcade in the real-world references, but someone removed it. And I have no idea why. --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 00:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Then add it again. If it gets removed again, add it '''''again'''''.{{User:Neox/sig}}

== Goof ==

The "rent out the dirt" button still is "tab-enter"-able after the first line and a half or so of the next lappy typing screen. --[[User:205.213.123.129|205.213.123.129]] 19:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deja Vu Music? ==
I could swear that the background music heard during the Taranchula metal-detector consolation-prize cutaway is from another Homestar toon. Can anyone put a name on it so we can use it as an inside reference? 20:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Inside reference? ==

Does this really count as an inside reference?

*Bubs seems to be hiding the death of some fellow named Rich, whose coffin can be seen at the end of the email.

I was of the opinion that it had to be from a separate toon, and if so, where should it go? [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 22:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:Because death is a recurring element/gag in some toons. The [[death]] page ties all appearances of death together in a list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

==Illustration / Dr. Seuss==

The illustration looks like Whoville. {{unsigned|Awexome|22:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)}} 22:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I think we need to reach some consencus about if Strong Bad's ending drawing is a reference to Dr. Seuss. It wasn't the 1st thing that came to ''my'' mind when I watched the email. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:It wasn't ''any'' thing that came to mind upon seeing it, even after hearing the fact. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::The primitive buildings look like those of Whoville. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't agree - they look like all sorts of fancy buildings. Ima say no reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I had a few Seuss books in my time, but never anything with this type of drawing. If this it's best if the person suggesting the fact brings up a comparative image. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 22:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::After seeing it again, I'll have to say it's more the urban outro of Sesame Street, with the dancing NYC skyline. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 00:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Parents ==

*Strong Bad believes that his parents are aliens in this email, but he showed us a picture of his parents (even if it was hidden by [[Le Restige]]) in [[the chair]].

However, the picture just says "nice try dodongo". It is possible he does not know who his parents truly are, which might explain his reluctance to discuss them. Of course, that's entirely speculatory, but this remark seems to say that Strong Bad was seriously showing us a picture of his parents when I think evidence suggests he was not. Not certain how to reword. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:I think the "nice try, dodongo" is only there for the viewers. It's a TBC trick, not a Strong Bad trick. Strong Bad seriously WAS showing us a picture of his parents; it was blocked by the chair's back. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:It certainly seems to me that deliberately did that because he knew that we wouldn't see what he was doing/showing. "nice try, dodongo" is obviously aimed at people who might try Flash decompiling though. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 22:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::Strong Bad says in this email "my parents are REALLY..." which means that even though he knows (knew?) who his parents are, they were probably adoptive -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

== McDoo & Videlectrix ==

not entirely sure this is Talk worthy, but does anyone else see the resemblance b/t mcdoo (i am not bothering w/ his first name) and one of the videlectrix guys? well, yeah, they're both [[Matt Chapman|Matt]], but mcdoo is just the videlectrix guy with a wig. the reason i bring it up is because of his appearance with the videlectrix kidx MD ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 22:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm. If there's anything notable, it'd be notable on [[Taranchula]], not here, as that's always how he looks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

==Cocoon==

The cocoon looks like those from Invader Zim [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 00:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Pascual Perez & Atlanta ==

While checking his Wikipedia page, I see that Pascual Perez was not just a major league pitcher (which I knew offhand), but was a former All-Star and that his one All-Star appearance was with the Atlanta Braves. Given TBC's desire to make Atlanta the center of the known universe (j/k), is it worth including the Atlanta connection in the "Real-World Reference"? -- TJDevil02
:I think it's relevant, especially since he played for the Braves from 1982 to 1985, during their baseball-loving childhoods. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Homestar was named after Mark Lemke, another player for the braves.{{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
:::Yes, that's been appropriately noted. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Paper Detector ==

Is it worth mentioning that the metal detector appears to detect a piece of paper with a chicken nugget in it, while neither of those is metal? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:No, that's just a piece of tin foil with a picture Strong Mad drew of you when you were little. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, I missed that line. My bad. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Kidx ==

Would this be considered the first non-video game videlectrix product, or does the "kidx" part change everything? (I know theres boardelectrix, but thats a seperate company without "vid" in the name) {{User:The Teach!/Twig}}
:It's clearly the same company, just a new (to us) division. I don't think anything more than a note in the [[Videlectrix]] article is needed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::The 1st non-video game Videlectrix product was the Peasant's Quest movie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== The Chase ==

Speachless. This thing is how many hours old? and you people already figured out what episode of Star Trek was being referenced. I bet TBC were using this site as a litmus test make more star trek/star wars inside jokes.
:I'm often amazed at the references people can put together. I wouldn't know a tenth of the things that end up in our fun facts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah... sometimes I wonder if even TBC are suprised at some of the connections we make. "Wait... we made a reference to ''what''?" --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 18:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== World Class Hole ==

Gentlemen, gentlemen!

Are we forgetting... WORLD CLASS HOLE?!

I refer you to 2 years.

The end of the e-mail suggests a TRULY world class hole.

:It's been 5 years since that email, but I agree. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 21:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::But the hole we see is harldly world-class. It'd sorta more like someone's-backyard-class. The drawing of Strong Bad's is based on his bad imagination. There's nothing to suggest it is or will ever be dug. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Strong tends to talk up alot of his ideas. I think the information should be noted here even if it may be a coincidence. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 20:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

==Bubs rent==
Wait, so Strong Bad rents Strong Badia from Bubs [see:[[colonization]]] who in turn rents space from Strong Bad to bury his toxic waste. Worth a remark? — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 10:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

That was more of Strong Bad's highly unphotographic memory, I thinks.
::How does Strong Bad's memory play into it? It's Bubs' actions that seem out of place, not Strobro's. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 12:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::We only have Strong Bad's telling of the colonization of Strong Badia to suggest that he pays rent to Bubs, and it's hard to say if anything is true in that account. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Different Foreheads ==

This Fun fact has been removed from the article:
<blockquote>Strong Bad's line about beings with different foreheads refers to the Klingons (and other such alternate species) of ''[[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]]''. More specifically, it refers to the plot of the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode 'The Chase', in which the Enterprise crew discover a message from an ancient race who claim to have seeded the galaxy with other races that look like them, including humans and Klingons.</blockquote>
I'm wondering if this is indeed a valid fact based on three points: a) Strong Bad's line is definitely out of context and a reference to something b) [[Wikipedia:The Chase (Star Trek: The Next Generation)|The Chase]] is apparently regarded as an explanation why most Star Trek races all look the same except for the bumps on their foreheads and c) [[Star Trek]] has been referenced many times.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure the fact is correct. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 21:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::I actually think, upon watching the toon again, that this fact was indeed correct. I removed it a bit hastily, but he's saying not only THAT the only difference is the foreheads, but asking WHY is definitely a reference to the chase. Unbaleeted! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Sure it's a valid fact ... but is it a valid reference? Seems utterly out of place to me.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 03:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I am assuming that you never actually saw that episode. If you had, you'd know that the episode has long been a joke among trekkies about how all races look the same and how they made up some lame excuse backstory as to why. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::The problem I see is that it's too much information. SB is refering to the fact that all of the aliens in TNG look alike, except for their foreheads. That's all. SB is NOT refering to the episode. The reference refers to the episode. This wiki is supposed to explain the HSR-iverse, not the TNG-iverse. At least, that's the way I see it.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 03:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::If it was just a comment about all beings looking the same except for slight differences of foreheads, fine. But he says "that EXPLAINS why" etc. Hence, a reference to the lame explanation itself, and not simply the fact that it's true. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I agree. The episode adds credibility to the fact, which seems rather lame without it. It adds more context, and almost acts as a citation source. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I see y'all's point. I restored the reference and reworded it a bit.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 03:46, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

==Illustration==

I was just thinking that the illustration resembles the animation style of Kaput and Zosky. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 21:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:Congratulations. You've already found the "This", and the "That". Now all we need is "The Other Thing", and we'll be able to *officially* rule out the ending picture as being a reference to something. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::He compared the picture to Whoville, Sesame Street, and Kaput and Zosky, so I think he filled all 3 requirements. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Yes, after looking back, you're right, he did. So, it's official. [[TTATOT|That term I'm getting decidedly sick of, yet that works well in this situation]]. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::I first thought about a crud PBTC drawing. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

=="Pathquaya"==

This sounds to me like an exaggerated Spanish accent pronunciation of the emailer's name. Can anybody else confirm this? Also, would this count as a Real World Reference? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 04:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yes and every time he says it with an american accent thats a real world reference too -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]

It's mock-Spanish, the "qu" is never pronounced like in English unless there is a diaerisis ("two dots") over the "u" and even though someone identified it as "Castilian" it's not. Pronoucing "s" as "th" is only heard is some parts of Andalusia, as opposed to the more common "soft c" and "z" "th" pronunciations.

== detect-OR ==

So, I noticed that when Strong Bad and the announcer man say detector, they put a lot of emphasis on the last syllable. This is reminiscent of both [[Drive-Thru]] and [[other_days|Other Days]], making this the third occurrence of the over-emphasized -OR. I'm thinking this might make it worthy of becoming an inside reference/recurring gag. Anyone else agree? --[[Image:qod_22_-_reynold.PNG|20px]] [[User:Lelila|lelila]] [[User_talk:Lelila|(talk)]] 07:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

==Wipes and Montages==

What are those? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:Movie techniques, often used to imply passage of time. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:And Strong Bad creat'd <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> some montages in [[montage]]. -- 01:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

==Metal Detector==

Do metal detectors detect bottlecaps and tinfoil? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 22:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:According to the research I did, they can detect aluminum. See http://metaldetectorreviews.net/manual.shtml . {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

== Paully Pasqually ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquale_Paoli for a reference or some. --[[User:99.153.135.61|99.153.135.61]] 02:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Now here's an interesting idea. Reference to this dude or simple corruption of the emailer's name. I can't tell. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

== Indiana Jones reference? ==

When Strong Bad is talking to Strong Sad, he ends his sentence with "kid." Could that be a reference?
:Probably not, it's a common expression. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't think so. Just wondering.

Talk:buried

Jakeroth — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:55:42 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Indiana Jones reference?

Talk:Drive-Thru Whale

Jakeroth — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:17:52 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Bad Whale?

== Delete? ==

Please '''don't delete''' this! I spent a long time on this. I always create stuff and it always gets deleted. I'll do anything if you don't delete this. It is one of the main reasons in a toon. It fits all the things a page needs to have. It even has it's picture. If it was part of the comment, I can change it.
:I agree. I don't know why the delete template was put up without comment, anyway. It's a major part of a toon, and I see no reason to delete it. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 19:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I see no reason to remove the delete tags without a full discussion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think it fits all the things it needs to have. Even Dr.Clash Agrees with me. Why would you delete. Even ask Dr.CDlash or anyone else (maybe not [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] ) and they will agree that it should not be deleted. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::I know there's no reason to remove the tags wothout discussion, but is there a reason to put them there without discussion, either. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::1) Stop begging not to have your page deleted. That's ''very, very'' annoying. Nonetheless... 2) I think this is a perfectly legit article. It's an item that plays a major part in [[Drive-Thru]]. So, '''DON'T DELETE''' --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::'''Maybe don't delete it.''' I haven't decided yet. But at the very least, it needs a serious rewrite. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Find a place to '''merge''' it to until it gets another appearance. --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 20:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Originally I was going to add a mention to [[The Field]], but there doesn't seem to be any room for that... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Look I'm not whining anymore but all the people agree. You should consider it, It's dot com. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::::::::You ''aren't whining''?! "''Please don't delete this! I spent a long time on this. I'll do anything if you don't delete this.''". That certainly sounds like whining. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 20:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Is it okay if delete to be deleted tag? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:::::::::::::Nope. Let an administrator do it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::I say '''delete''' it. I mean, I'll wait to see if it comes up again, but I don't think that we really need this page.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::::'''Keep'''. It's significant enough for article in my mind since it's a central part of the short. I don't think we need to hold specific items like this to the same standard as generic items (i.e., pizza, ducks etc.) or running gags in terms of needing multiple appearances. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::::There are tons of items on [[Items]] that've only been seen once, anyway. Heck, [[Doreauxgard]]'s only been seen once, and look how we treat him. Definitely '''KEEP'''. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 21:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::'''Keep''', for above reasons. Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if this fellow shows up again in another toon, if only as a cameo. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::I also say '''keep''' it. It's an important enough element of the toon to merit its own page. A rewrite might not be a bad idea though. Has anyone posted a clear, specific reason why it's even been nominated for deletion??? ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
:::::::::::::::::Say that to Phlip. He was the one who nominated it for deletion. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
::::::::::::::::::'''KEEP'''. I don't think I need to restate what has already been said. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:(Re-Indenting) '''Keep''' again! I say keep again! --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:: '''Wait'''. I think it might make another appearance. Maybe. We should get some votes before we take action. --[[User:Collin Diver|Collin Diver]] 23:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::: '''Note:''' I added the {{tl|tbd}} template because it's the sort of borderline-notable topic that deserves a "should we keep this" discussion... I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, I just put the template there so that the discussion would happen... note that the template says "is being considered for deletion" – which is exactly what this discussion is doing. I didn't start the discussion when I put the template up, because it was late at night, I was tired, and wasn't really capable of forming coherent arguments... so I went to bed in the knowledge that when I came back the discussion would have started without me. That the consensus seems to be "keep it" is fine by me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::::No please! I have no idea whats going on but I read the first and second to last comment! Dont kill off the Drive-thru Whale page! He's my favorite! I learned some good crap about him when I read this page! Please dont delete it! Okay... I'm done.... ^-^ [[User:65.34.72.52|65.34.72.52]] 23:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== Character? ==

Should the drive-thru whale be considered a character? Specifically, do we think that the source of the voice is (a) the whale itself, (b) someone inside the whale, or (c) someone somewhere else whose voice comes through the loudspeaker inside the whale. Relevant to this discussion are the following pieces of data:
#The whale speaks as if it is merely a loudspeaker.
#In one scene, the camera looks out from the inside of the whale's mouth.
#The whale eats the lobster.
#The whale launches itself into [[Outer Space]].
#1 seems to suggest conclusion (c), #2 and #4 seem to suggest conclusion (b), and #3 seems to suggest conclusion (a). I realize that any result we come up with is going to be speculation, but I think it's a necessary thing to discuss so that we know whether to classify it as a [[Characters|character]], an [[Unseen Characters|unseen character]], or an [[Items|item]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:This is tough, as it doesn't fit neatly into one category. I'd say "Character" is the best fit. It seems self-aware enough to interact with other characters, and clearly has its own wants and needs in life--specifically to cause dismemberment and eat a space lobster.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 22:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

::Yeah, I think I agree with you — in fact, I think that the joke might be that throughout the whole short, Strong Bad thought it was simply a drive-thru device, but after he left it turned out to be a creature (evidenced by the lobster-eating and space-launching). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::I believe it to be a pseudocharacter, only because (from [[Pseudocharacters]])...
:::<blockquote>Pseudocharacters are items in the Homestar Runner universe that at some time or another are treated (and in some cases behave) as real characters. They variously talk, move, and interact with the main characters and the audience. Most pseudocharacters are totally depicted as inanimate objects except for a handful of appearances.</blockquote>
:::Even The Paper, which could answer commands, get sick, etc. is called a pseudocharacter. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 20:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Mailbox ==

Does any one else see a slight connection between the drive-thru whale and [[The Mailbox]]? Both of them are alone in the middle of a feild, apparently far away from the buildings they should be close to.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 03:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's true. Maybe we should put a link to the Mailbox. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

== Sweetie Cakes! ==

After the mini-golf email, can we count this whale as a Sweet Cuppin Cakes character? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:I mean, can we add this article to a Sweet Cuppin' Cakes category? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

At least wait 'til the whale has another apparance along side Eh! Steve and the others. It could just be a one off after all. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 20:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

== Sketchbook vs. mini-golf ==

How is the [[:Image:Drive-Thru Putt Place.png|mini-golf image]] better than [[:Image:Sketchbook 3-22-2007.png|Sketchbook one]]? The mini-golf image is very similar to the one that's always been the page, making it redundant. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:That was my first reaction, too. Yet with the current image it shows that it's in the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes universe, as well as the Homestar Runner universe. Honestly, I thought it was fine before.. but I also think it's fine now. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 02:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::But isn't the Sketchbook image more important? I mean, it shows his evolution. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Nah, i have always thought that actual images are more important than sketchbook ones. (Sketchbook images aren't REALLY part of the evolution... just background) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
=== Maybe Blubb-O's? ===
Now that the whale has become a mascot instead of a Sweet Cuppin' Cake, is the mini-golf image still relevant, or should it be replaced with a Blubb-O's-related picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me, it's been seen as such 3 times, whereas it was only in cuppin once. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

== Rename ==

[[Blubb-o's Whale]] end of story. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Superb justifications! Anyways, agree. It's clearly Blubb-o's's mascot. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 17:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

::Or, is the whale's name actually [[Blubb-o]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::You guys know that TBC only did this to screw with us... they like to keep us HRWikians on our toes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Trey: Didn't the bag say "You guessed it... '''We''''re called Blubbo-o's!", referring to the fastfood place instead of its mascot? --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 18:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Of course, but who could Blubbo be other than a blubbery whale? On a somewhat related note, "Blubba" and "Baron von Blubba" are the names of two whales in ''[[Wikipedia:Bubble Bobble|Bubble Bobble]]'' — not saying it's a reference, just that it made me think of that great game. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Trey, those guys aren't whales... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::They's bubble dragons. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::No, click on the link, and search the page for "Blubba" — you'll see that they are indeed whales. I'm not talking about the heroes; I'm talking about two enemies. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::But, um, back to the back to the article. I think [[Blubb-o's Whale]] would be better, since despite that the whale's name would be Blubb-o's or whatever, he still IS the mascot for a restaurant called Blubb-o's. So, regardless of what his name is, it's still the Blubb-o's Whale. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 10:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree — to me, it's fairly evident that Blubb-o is the whale's name, so it's redundant to call him Blubbo's whale. It's like if a guy named Jerry owned a tire store called "Jerry's Tires", and everybody referred to him as "the Jerry's Tires owner" because they couldn't figure out his name. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Trey: Like many food mascots, the whale's name is most likely to be named in something similar to the restaurant (i.e. Ronald McDonald for McDonald's). He's name could be "Blubb-o Blub", "Bill Blubb-o" or anything else for that matter. The best way we can describe in this now, is [[Blubb-o's Whale]]. So, yes, I support the move. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe the DVD commentary for [[Drive-Thru]] would be helpful. For the sake of everyone, partial commentary beginning from when SB hits the drive-thru whale:

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, uh... This— This was really unsettling, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' The... drive-thru whale?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Wha— I— Was he from some type of a seafood restaurant or something?

'''MIKE:''' Uh... that serves whale?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Why would you—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Maybe. Maybe that'd be good. Blubber sandwiches.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Blubb-o's, maybe it'd be called. ''{pause}'' Um, but later on, doesn't this guy show up in Sweet Cuppin' Cakes land?

'''MIKE:''' He does.

:So, here's how I see it. Clearly the mascot came before the name of the restaurant, and it seems the name of the restaurant was decided based on the type of sandwiches that might be sold and not based on the mascot. So, until TBC come right out and tell us what this whale's name is, I opine that we <s>keep it at what Mike called it ([[Drive-Thru Whale]]) or</s> rename it [[Blubb-o's Whale]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::Perhaps "Blubb-o The Whale? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I oppose renaming it. I would argue that "drive-thru whale" is what TBC use to describe it, and so should we. Renaming it [[Blubb-o's Whale]] is not an improvement in my opinion. Also, any guesses on its actual name (if any) should not be in the article and especially not in the title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Agree with '''no rename''', per Loafing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::'''I see no reason to change its name.''' Strong Bad refers to it as a "crackly drive-thru whale," in [[Drive-Thru]] Just because it appeared on a bag of food does not mean we should rename it. I really think that the Drive-Thru Whale is just the mascot or icon for Blubbo's.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 23:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I've already said that either keeping the name as-is ''or'' calling it [[Blubb-o's Whale]] would be fine. But, I've since decided that '''the name ought to be changed'''. Why? Because the whale is the mascot whether or not it is the drive-thru speaker. Consider its appearance on [[:Image:blubb-o's bag.png|the bag]] in [[nightlife]]. No pole coming out from beneath it, no speaker in its teeth. So, regarding importance, it's a mascot first, a drive-thru speaker second. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::'''I agree'''. "Drive-Thru Whale" is no longer a satisfactory name for what this is, as it has been clearly used as something more than just a drive-thru device.-[[User:StarLion|StarLion]] 00:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Why not split the difference and call it The Blubb-o's Mascot?--[[User:66.184.136.68|66.184.136.68]] 02:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Without a clearer definition of what Blubb-o's is, we should just leave this article where it is. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::If the only thing it's been definitely called, by Mike and/or Strong Bad, so far is "Drive-Thru Whale", then that's what the name should stay, at least for the time being. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::This character is a drive-thru speaker to take your order. It might just be moddled after the Blubb-o's mascot. '''I would rename it Blubb-o's Drive-Thru Whale'''.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 16:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::Too long, Clanky, too long! --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 17:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that this article '''should be renamed''' to [[Blubb-o's Whale]]. We can't really call it "Drive-Thru Whale" anymore, mainly because we have found what restaurant it is a mascot for.

Let's take Ronald McDonald for an instance. If I didn't know the name of him or McDonald's, I'd call it simply Burger Place Clown. If I then learnt that the Burger Place Clown is a mascot for a restaurant called McDonald's, I'd start calling it the McDonald's Clown, since it's much more descriptive. Simple as that.

Then we have the whale. We don't know it's name for sure, and we didn't know the restaurant name, so we called it simply Drive-Thru Whale. Then we learnt that the Drive-Thru Whale is a mascot for a restaurant called Blubb-o's, and now you can do the math.

Now, if in some future toon the whale's name was revealed for good, it should obviously be renamed to that. But until that, a rename to [[Blubb-o's Whale]] would be the best choice. --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 17:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

:Personally, I vote '''leave it'' until there's a bit more to know. For one thing, the redirecting and rewriting of all the places that link here would be an epic battle. Until we're sure, leave it at the place of least effort. And recall, TBC may throw us a real slippery one and give us another random reference to it. I know, there's peobably no evidence for them doing it before, but I have a feeling...--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 12:38, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::The arguments for renaming it [[Blubbo's Whale]] are indisputable. Call that an opinion if you want, but I haven't seen one compelling reason for it to stay the same. In response to Heimstern, we do know what Blubb-o's is: it's a restaurant (as evidenced by the bag of greasy fast food that says "You guessed it...we're called Blubb-o's"). In response to Loafing and DAGRON, let's say TBC had decided right from the beginning to put a name tag on the whale that said, "Hi, my name is Jeeves." We would name the page "Jeeves" and Mike and/or Strong Bad would still be accurate in calling it a "drive-thru whale". In response to Gaeamil, a move isn't that hard. This one seems pretty easy, as a matter of fact; only about 30 pages have both the words "drive-thru" and "whale" within them. Finding and replacing links wouldn't be hard at all. Later, if they identify the whale as "Jeeves" or something, same deal. We've got plenty of willing people to do the work; I for one would do it. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:::'''Rename''' for args presented above. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:20, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::::WAYYY AHEAD OF YA. I ACTUALLY CREATED THE LINK!!!!! GO BLUBB-O'S!!!! [[User:Homdude717|Homdude717]]
----

So here is where we stand now. I counted the voices for each opinion, and here is the current status:
*For keeping the current name: Loafing, DorianGray, ONESTOP, Heimstern, DAGRON and Gaemil.
*For renaming it Blubb-o's Whale: DeFender1031, Sysrq868, E.L. Cool, OptimisticFool, StarLion, Qermaq, and Homdude717.
*For renaming to something else: Trey56 (Blubb-o), Sam the Man (Blubb-o The Whale) and ONESTOP (Blubb-o's Drive-Thru Whale at one point).
So this present us with a tie of 6-6 (and 3 people for other renames) to each opinion. I do remind you that this is not a vote, but trying to reach consensus. Are there any more arguments to each side anyone would like to share so we can decide on the fate of this article? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
:Umm. I vote ... '''keep until revealed.''' {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 23:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
::Here's another thing to consider: We're taking the idea to rename the article from a very brief cameo of the whale (not even that, really, just a picture of him) that exists almost as an inside joke in [[nightlife]]. The older term [[Drive-Thru Whale]], by contrast, describes his function in the one and only toon where he plays a really substantial role: [[Drive-Thru]]. That's why I don't put much stock in the argument that Drive-Thru Whale is inadequate as a title. Furthermore, it's been used by Strong Bad in that one toon and in the commentary. So I do not think a rename is needed. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Whale will most-definitely be shown again, and at one point may be named. Both Drive-Thru Whale and Blubb-o's Whale are generic names, and Drive-Thru Whale is at least for sure what the whale really is. The whale may not be called the Blubb-o's whale, but it ''is'' a drive-thru whale, as you can tell from the way it talked in [[Drive-Thru]]. Plus, more people on this wiki have known it as the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] for several months. I say we '''keep the current name''' until we here it be called a certain name by someone. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
::::'''Keep as Drive-Thru Whale'''. "Blubb-o's Whale" makes it sound like a whale that belongs to some guy named Blubb-o. Which could be true if the founder of the Blubb-o's restaurant is actually named Blubb-o, but I digress. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I '''agree with everything Homestar-winner said,''' for all the reasons he gave. We should keep the current name until we have a little bit more to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Just a random thought- if he(/she/it) has had a QotW, doesn't that mean it's in the XML for that somewhere...edit: guess not. [[User:69.145.66.213|69.145.66.213]] 06:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

:I seem to remember it being listed as just "drivethru" in the XML file, though I could be mistaken. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
::That's correct; I saved this particular XML file in the hopes of using it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Right, based on Elcool's brief overview of what people think and the posts after that, it is obvious that we have not come to a consensus to move it during a two months long discussion. This means we default to keeping the name as it is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's worth noting that, even in the logo, the whale speaks in the drive-thru voice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

==Rename redux==
I know that a month ago we "defaulted" to keeping the name, but I think the recent cartoon definitely put the discussion to rest. Coach Z calls the whale "Drive-Thru Whale" in a canon cartoon. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 10:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

:I think the recent toon does the exact opposite. Firstly, Coach Z has said some non-sequitors before; just because he was rambling at the [[garage sale]] doesn't make him a mom. It's dot com said we should keep the name until more stuff about the whale comes along... ta-dah, here it is. A whole cartoon about the restaurant and ultimately, it's mascot. Heimstern said we should not rename this article because the whale was just briefly in [[nightlife]] (where the debate rose in the first place)... and now there's an entire toon about ''a restaurant called Blubb-O's, whose mascot is a whale''. I fail to see how this could be still called plainly "Drive-Thru Whale" - it's clearly a mascot for Blubb-O's, "Blubb-O" is not the whale nor anything else either. I come again to my McDonald's simile: after seeing an advert for McDonald's, have you called Ronald McDonald "the drive-thru clown"? I still stand behind my opinion; '''rename to "Blubb-O's Whale" per everything said before and this new toon.''' --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 15:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::Disagree; I'd say that's not very firm reasoning for second-guessing Coach Z's line. Considering that's the blatant evidence in front of us, as opposed to the possible "he might or might not be saying something random," I'd say we go with the blatant. '''Keep'''--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:45, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Permit me to point out that Marzipan's signs say: "Save The Blubb-O Whale!" Not "Save The Drive-Thru Whale". '''Rename accordingly.''' Nuff said. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's nearly that simple, OF. Sure, Marzipan uses the term "Blubb-O Whale", but Coach Z uses the term "Drive-Thru Whale". I think it's fair to say TBC are cool with both names. This leaves the question of which we should use. My preference is for keeping it at the current title simply because the current title is the older one and that one that reflects the origin of the whale in [[Drive-Thru]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I see no compelling reason to change the status quo at this time. TBC use both names (they may, in fact, be messing with us), and the "official" name is no less ambiguous now than before the latest short was released. We still don't have a ''definitive'' word on the subject, and so coming to any kind of conclusion is still premature. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::I really do think TBC made [[Blubb-O's Commercial]] on purpose to mess with us and this very argument. That was my very first thought when I saw the toon, and I didn't even notice the contradiction between Marzipan's signs and Coach Z's comment. Now I'm sure of it. I would have liked to keep this article as Drive-Thru Whale, but if you think about it, under the circumstances, probably the best we can do is '''Rename to "Blubb-O's Drive-Thru Whale"'''--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 07:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I agree with both Dot com and Johnny Jupiter. '''Keep the way it is''', or, if not, '''mesh the two names as a last resort'''. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Currently the whale is no longer just a speaker for some drive-thru place. It's a mascot for a restaurant called Blubb-O's. I find "Blubb-O's Whale" more definitive; no-one can deny the connection between Blubb-O's and the whale. "Drive-Thru Whale" seems sort of vague, especially since the restaurant's name in [[Drive-Thru]] is not "Drive-Thru"; it was always "Blubb-O's", it was just not known back then. But I guess it's just me versus everyone else either undecided or stubborn. --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 10:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::For my part, I'm now convinced that my argument in an above section was wrong: the whale's name clearly ''isn't'' "Blubb-o". As far as what its name ''is'', I don't think we know for sure yet. Let's keep the article at its current location till more conclusive evidence arises. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::What's all this talk about "let's not move it until we can be absolutely sure"? Folks, this is a wiki. If a page needs to be moved again later, it can be moved again later, no problem. The question is about the here and now, which name makes the most sense, and is most decriptive. For the record, I agree with Sysrq868's argument. The name that describes this character best at present is '''Blubb-O's Whale''' or '''The Blubb-O's Whale''' maybe, so as not to make it sound like it is a whale owned by blubb-o, but rather the whale mascot of the blubb-o's restaurant. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I guess the real thing is whether or not this article is to cover the logo appearances on the bags and Marzipan's sign and so forth, or if by Drive-Thru Whale we mean just the physical whale on a post with a speaker that spouts out non-sequiturs. In [[Drive-Thru]], I don't really think it had anything to do with the then-unknown restaurant named Blubb-O's, because the humor in that toon was that it was a drive-thru speaker out by itself, with no actual restaurant anywhere. And Sweet Puttin' Cakes doesn't seem to be connected to Blubb-O's. Whether or not it has anything to do with Blubb-O's, it still is a Drive-Thru Whale. Since it's been called both in cannon, the best name is either "Blubb-O's Drive-Thru Whale" or "Blubb-O's Whale/Drive-Thru Whale"--It's Johnny. Don't know why I'm not signed in, don't care.
::::::::::::'''>.<''' Too much, guys. Just too much. I think if TBC meant to mess with us they certainly did. Everyone is getting too technical over something really funny. Any average joe who reads HRWiki isn't going to care if it is called "Blubb-O's Whale" or "Drive-Thru Whale"... really. They aren't. And neither will I. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 01:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Some replies to a few people:

Sysrq: You're right, we can't deny the connection to Blubb-O's, nor to the name "Blubb-O's Whale", what with Marzi's sign. But we also can't deny its connection to the name "Drive-Thru Whale". For this reason, I suggest that, whatever title we use in the end, the lead section of this article mention both names. Still, we can only have one article title.

DeFender: I don't think the arguments about leaving it where it is have much to do with concern about moving it back later if it's proven to be the wrong title. Rather, it's the notion that an article shouldn't be retitled at all without a compelling reason, and in a case like this, where two names have been used, I (and I suspect others in this discussion) don't feel we have a compelling reason.

Theyellowdart: True, but this is what we do best! :-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:The compelling reason is that it's a more descriptive and fitting name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::Descriptive is debatable, but I'd argue that it's definitely not the more fitting name. The term "Drive-Thru Whale" has been used more often on the site than Blubb-O Whale, leading me to believe that it is the more appropriate name. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 12:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::actually, as this is the only toon where it's actually called either thing, and "The Blubb-O's Whale" appears multiple times while "Drive-Thru Whale" is only once, I'd say the exact opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Strong Bad uses the phrase "drive thru whale" in Drive Thru, and Mike says the same thing in the commentary. That's three, to what I consider once for The Blubbo-O Whale, which is on Marzipan's signs. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 12:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::So let me get this straight. You're arguing over the name based on how many times it has appeared on the site? That's not really an argument; based on that logic we should move [[Homestar Runner]] to just [[Homestar]], since he's called "Homestar" more often than "Homestar Runner". Thus appearance counts also have nothing to do with the article title's fittingness.

:::::The reasons why I think "Blubb-O's Whale" is a better name are:
:::::* The restaurant it's for is called Blubb-O's, regardless whether it's an image or a drive-thru statue.
:::::* Article titles are meant to describe the subject as much as possible in as little space as possible. To describe a whale character for a restaurant called Blubb-O's, "Blubb-O's Whale" is better than "Drive-Thru Whale".
:::::Whereas the reasons why I think "Drive-Thru Whale" is not a sufficient title anymore are:
:::::* The phrase "Drive-Thru Whale" might be used more often, but everybody now connects and relates the whale with Blubb-O's, no matter what. It is the mascot of Blubb-O's, simple as that.
:::::* "Drive-Thru Whale" sounds quite naive, and implies that it's just some random whale in [[Drive-Thru]]; it was that back then, but times have changed.
:::::End of story. --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 21:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::You're still missing the point. My argument is that I think "The Drive Thru Whale" is the mascot's name. To use your "McDonald's" analogy, would you find the mascot of McDonald's listed under "McDonald's clown" ? No, you'd find it under his ''name'', "Ronald McDonald" . -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::And what we're saying is that "drive-thru whale sounds more like a bad description than a name, has never been used as a name, and therefore is speculation to assume so. His name could be "Blubb-O" or "Mr. Blubb" or "Blubb the Whale". Until and unless we have a definitive name, all we have is a description. The ''description'' that fits better should be the page name here for the time being, which is, as SysRq868 pointed out, is "The Blubb-O Whale" or something similar. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::There's always been some degree of speculation regarding canon names, save in cases such as [[Ready for Primetime]]. Like, how do we know [[New Paper]]'s name? Well, that's what Strong Bad calls it. And toward this point, Coach Z's line in this toon sounds a whole lot like a <strike>direct address</strike> proper noun to me. But yes, your point is valid, and it's actually in response to that point that I make my auxillary argument. Without a definitive specific name, we can only (imo) default to the term which has thus far been used most often (and first) to describe the character, which is "Drive Thru Whale." (This is, for the most part, the extent of my argument, so I'll shut up now :X ) -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
And what I'm saying is that we should default, not to the first and most often used, but to the most descriptive. And coach z's line doesn't sound like a <s>direct address</s> proper noun to me... he said "i'm the drive-thru whale" similar to "i'm the McDonald's clown" and not "hey there, drive-thru whale" or anything like that. I say we call it by its most descriptive name, and not its most commonly used title. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Another option. Since we know the whale is the mascot of Blubb-o's as seen by Coach-Z prancing around in a mascot suit and the the same whale is used on the product packaging, signage, and the drive-thru speaker. I give you a suggestion. "The Blubb-o's Mascot". It's still vague as to not assign a name to the whale yet,, but clearly idtenifgies it as belonging to the Blubb-o's franchise sort of like Mickey Mouse being the Disney mascot. --[[User:66.184.136.56|66.184.136.56]] 21:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, as long as we're acknowledging it as being from blubb-o's, mascot seems too generic, as it's clearly a whale... that point isn't under dispute. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Another thing to note: even when he says the line about "doctors", at which point he appears as the Blubb-O's mascot and without his speaker, he still speaks in a crackly electronic voice. Thus he still has a clear connection with his drive-thru function even when he's just in the logo.  {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 15:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Bad Whale? ==

I just have the thought that the Drive Thru whale just might be EEEEEEEEEEvil. Whaddya guys tink?

Talk:Sickly Sam's Big Outing

Jakeroth — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:13:55 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Doorbell?

== Why "Shaboigen"? ==

Why? I looked and I couldn't see anywhere where it was spelled as Shaboigen, and not the actual spelling of Cheboygan or Sheboygan, depending on which one you're talking about (most likely Cheboygan, because they're in the 20s and referring to bootlegging). --Tony from Cheboygan, MI

== "And the rest!" ==

I'm not going to add it to the page, but did anyone else think about [[The Robot (storybook)|The Robot]], [[Mr. Bland]], and [[Señor]] at "The Rest"? It's probably a reach, but the one in the middle IS robotic-looking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No i think you are right that was the first thing i thought when i saw the toon. {{User:The-homsarrunner/sig}} 13:52 2008 Feb 11

The robot, I can see. The other two, not so much. One's an alien (Old Timey [[Nebulon]]?!), and the other looks like a peanut with a black eye or something. I don't see the connection. But that's just me.
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The one on the right reminded me of Emmitt Nervend from Freakazoid. --DavidCatmull

Same thing here. DEFINATLY saw Emmitt Nervend. D: -[[User:Aranai|Aranai]] 16:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==

Is the cow that [[Sickly Sam]] ends up with the Old-Timey [[The Ugly One]]? I mean, she has quite similar specs and hair.--{{User:Kerny Mantis}} 09:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:yea and with the glasses maybe... but we should wait for another opinion because so far the only old timey characters have been the characters that live in Free Country USA so... it probaly isn't The Ugly One.

::Check the names of the the sender's friends in the email [[comics]] to see.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:::None of them are named Dee. The Ugly One is not from Free Country USA, the glasses were just popular in that era, and SHE'S A COW! So, no. No Ugly One.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== The Birds? ==

The Sneak being attacked by the seagulls reminded me of the Alfred Hitchcock movie ''The Birds''. Does anyone else think this is a reference?
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 13:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Firehouse reference? ==

This is a bit obscure, but at the end of this cartoon, Sickly Sam says, "I've finally found the love of a lifetime." which could be in reference to a song of the same name from the hard rock band Firehouse (since the Brothers Chaps seem very knowledgable about hard rock bands from that era). Other similar references were "Kevin Dubrow" a Quiet Riot reference from The Bet email and "Here I go again on my own" a Whitesnake reference from the Mile email. Not to mention all the old guitarist pics they have up in their audio recording room (seen in Sample of Style).

== Horse or Cow? ==

I'm pretty sure Dee is a horse, not a cow. For one thing, she has no utter. Plus, a horse would make more sense at a glue factory. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 20:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
: You're right. Fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely a cow, udders or no udders. It's got the spots, the cow-ish face and the cow-ish tail. Besides, cows are used at a glue factory as well, not just horses. ({User:Kerny Mantis)} 21.02 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:I think the tail is one of the best bits of evidence for her being a horse. It's basically just a mass of hair, like a horse's tail. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Problems playing file? ==

Is it just me, or did they do something to break the file? There's no audio after the word "..program" in the intro?

== Why no Places ==

In the "Places" section on the wiki, why aren't there any listed? Also I would wonder if I could make the page called the [[Saw Mill]] where The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Marzipan were being sawed by Old-Timey Strong Bad after Sickly Sam burned the film.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 21:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:They're not listed because no one's bothered to list them yet. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Alley ==

Is "Skid Row" the [[Old-Timey]] alley?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 22:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's possible! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Super Modern Telegram ==

As [[The Homestar Runner]] gets the telegram it say SUPER MODERN TELEGRAM and as he reads it it says HONEST TELEGRAM.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]][[Image:bowler derby.PNG|20px]] 23:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:Feel free to add that to the Remarks section. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

== Goofs? Really? ==

There are currently two goofs listed:<blockquote>
*When Old Timey Strong Bad jumps in on the boardwalk, Sickly Sam's hat disappears.
*The color of the end stripe on The Sneak's tail changes periodically throughout the toon.</blockquote>
Given the nature of this toon, I'm not sure we can count these as goofs. There are many purposefully introduced "goofs" in this toon. We should simply ignore it as we do with [[Powered by The Cheat]] "goofs".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

: I agree. Especially about the hat. [[User:Lelila|Lelila]] 07:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Foiled? ==

Are we sure that "Foiled again!" is from the Dudley Do-right segment? I mean, Dick Dastardly from the old CN cartoon Wacky Racers also uses that. And that's just one example...

== Dressed to the 5 3/4s? ==

Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?
:It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Live Action? ==

Should it be mentioned under Remarks that unlike previous Old-Timey cartoons, this one seems to be styled after live action TV shows, with props on strings and poorly edited outakes?--[[User:Tenka Muteki|Tenka Muteki]] 01:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Fort Wayne Locomotive ==

Anyone else think his voice might be based on Art Carney (TV's Ed Norton, and the inspiration for Yogi Bear and Barney Rubble)?
: Someone apparently thought exactly that, as Ed Norton and Art Carney were previously mentioned before someone else removed it as "Dubious". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

==Five and 3/4==

Is that a reference to five and dime stores? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 05:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
: I don't think so. I think it was parodying the phrase "dressed to the nines." [[User:Lelila|Lelila]]

== Ribcage Stomach ==

It seems to be a reference to cartoons such as Tom and Jerry, as they would often use the ribcage as a stomach. Perhaps another 80s reference?

== Possible STUFF? ==

The line "We shan't get foiled again" is a possible old-timey reference to the 1971 song Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who. {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 15:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Give Him the Business ==

When Strong Bad says that step one of the plan is to "give him the business", it reminded me of a couple of referree's description of personal foul penalties. Video clips of them can be found on YouTube, along with a reference from the new American Gladiators. Not sure if someone wants to include that in the Fun Facts, but I'd thought I'd mention it.

== Doorbell? ==

Do you think we should add something like this to the Trivia section?
Like, that says:

The cut during the telegram scene may be because doorbells haven't been invented yet.

Trogday 08

Jakeroth — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:46:05 GMT

Jakeroth:

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|trogday08|Happy Dethemberween|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Trogday08.PNG|thumb|HAPPY TROGDAY S is for SUCKS DRAGON!!]]
Strong Bad honors the fifth birthday of that famous dragon... only it's not what you may expect.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[The S Is For Sucks Dragon]], {{Film|Trogdor}}, {{film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg), [[Wormdingler]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Smoky Office]], [[Locker Room]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, January 14, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:15

'''Page Title:''' Brought to you by Le Restige!

==Transcript==
''{Open on a shot of Strong Bad sitting near the window in the Smoky Office on Le Restige. He is reading a book that reads "Things I'm About To Say"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hi folks. ''{he closes the book}'' I'm fantastic Strong Bad with an important seeming message. Five years ago, I drew a little dragon. It wasn't much to look at, but he captured the hearts and minds of dozens, nay, severals of internet viewers. I'm, of course, talking about none other than ''{cut to a sheet of notebook paper}'' The "S is for Sucks" dragon!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' A long time ago 
Before things got weird 
Came a Dragon, a mighty dragon 
that Everybody Feared 
Now, G is for Giraffe 
And H for Halloween 
But, I'm not Joking about 
This Kill-ill-Ling 
Machine, Na-na-na-na 
Na-na-na-na 
''{as if through a bullhorn}'' Na-na-na-na 
Oh, pants will keep on Peein' 
And we'll raise Quite a Ruckus 
In case you haven't guessed by now 
The S is for Suckus 

The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks! 

The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks! 

T! Two beefy arms! 
U! Uneven style! 
V! Constabulate V's! 
W! What a pile! 
Xcuse me Mr. Trogdor 
You've run out of luck 
In case you haven't heard the news 
Zee S is for Sucks 

Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Oh, Zee S is for Sucks! 

Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Croissant! Zee S is for Sucks!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{cut back to Smoky Office}'' Yeah, yeah, I know what you're thinkin'. "What about Trogdor?" You internet types ruined Trogdor! Just like you did zombies, pirates, ninjas and Strong Bad! Er, wait, no. Yeah! And personally, I preferred that children's alphabet song to Trogdor's heavy metal song any day. ''{Trogdor's snout appears behind the blinds outside the window and Trogdor roars.}'' Waugh! Yes, sir! Sorry, sir! Right away, sir!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing in speed metal style}'' The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 
The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 
The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 
The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 

''{cut to an illustration of the S is for Sucks dragon with a caption "HAPPY TROGDAY S is for SUCKS DRAGON!!"}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on The S Is For Sucks dragon's head to see a scene with Coach Z and his attempt at drawing a dragon (or "Wormdingler") in the locker room:
:'''COACH Z''': ''{looking fatigued}'' Hi there, Wormdingler, I got youse this cupcake ''{holds up a cupcake}'' for your famous fifth birthday. You don't need no consummate V's to be my bride. Oh, did I just say that out loud? ''{he looks around repeatedly}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Strong Bad's comment about how the Internet ruined zombies, pirates, and ninjas refers to various [[Wikipedia:Internet meme|Internet memes]] that have been popular over the years.

===Trivia===
*This is the first time Trogdor has appeared in [[Free Country, USA]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad sings a song with na-nas as lyrics, which were listed as no. 2 on his [[Bottom 10]].
*In the Easter Egg, Coach Z's arms appear to be animated differently than they have been in previous toons, they appear to be drawn as a whole, instead of two seperate pieces that are manipulated. Bubs's arms saw a similar update in animation style in [[nightlife]].

===Inside References===
*The entire toon and all the dragons featured in it are a reference to the email [[dragon]], as well as to the [[Happy Trogday|Trogday]] holiday.
*The page title makes a reference to Strong Bad's replacement email-checking chair, [[Le Restige]], from [[the chair]], which is also the chair that Strong Bad sits on at the beginning.
*The music in the beginning was first heard in [[portrait]].
*This toon includes mentions of [[pants]], [[peeing]], [[style]], and [[croissants]].
*Strong Bad uses a faux [[French]] accent and wears a [[beret]] and a [[mustache]].
*Strong Bad saying "Yes sir, sorry sir, right away sir" to Trogdor is very similar to when Homestar said the same thing to Pom Pom in [[from work]].
*The newspaper headline reads "top mark [[b/w]] long V".
*Strong Bad saying "I'm fantastic Strong Bad" is similar to "I'm regular Strong Bad" from [[unnatural]].

==See Also==
*[[Trogday 08 Visuals]]

==External Links==
*[[HR:trogday08.html|Watch "Trogday 08"]]
*[[HR:trogday08.swf|View the Flash file for "Trogday 08"]]
*[[Forum:13368|Forum thread re: Trogday 08]]

[[Category:Holiday Toons]]

{{subtitlesLinks|trogday08}}

Trogday 08

Jakeroth — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:45:20 GMT

Jakeroth:

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|trogday08|Happy Dethemberween|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Trogday08.PNG|thumb|HAPPY TROGDAY S is for SUCKS DRAGON!!]]
Strong Bad honors the fifth birthday of that famous dragon... only it's not what you may expect.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[The S Is For Sucks Dragon]], {{Film|Trogdor}}, {{film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg), [[Wormdingler]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Smoky Office]], [[Locker Room]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, January 14, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:15

'''Page Title:''' Brought to you by Le Restige!

==Transcript==
''{Open on a shot of Strong Bad sitting near the window in the Smoky Office on Le Restige. He is reading a book that reads "Things I'm About To Say"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hi folks. ''{he closes the book}'' I'm fantastic Strong Bad with an important seeming message. Five years ago, I drew a little dragon. It wasn't much to look at, but he captured the hearts and minds of dozens, nay, severals of internet viewers. I'm, of course, talking about none other than ''{cut to a sheet of notebook paper}'' The "S is for Sucks" dragon!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' A long time ago 
Before things got weird 
Came a Dragon, a mighty dragon 
that Everybody Feared 
Now, G is for Giraffe 
And H for Halloween 
But, I'm not Joking about 
This Kill-ill-Ling 
Machine, Na-na-na-na 
Na-na-na-na 
''{as if through a bullhorn}'' Na-na-na-na 
Oh, pants will keep on Peein' 
And we'll raise Quite a Ruckus 
In case you haven't guessed by now 
The S is for Suckus 

The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks! 

The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks 
The S is for Sucks! 

T! Two beefy arms! 
U! Uneven style! 
V! Constabulate V's! 
W! What a pile! 
Xcuse me Mr. Trogdor 
You've run out of luck 
In case you haven't heard the news 
Zee S is for Sucks 

Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Oh, Zee S is for Sucks! 

Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Zee S is for Sucks 
Croissant! Zee S is for Sucks!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{cut back to Smoky Office}'' Yeah, yeah, I know what you're thinkin'. "What about Trogdor?" You internet types ruined Trogdor! Just like you did zombies, pirates, ninjas and Strong Bad! Er, wait, no. Yeah! And personally, I preferred that children's alphabet song to Trogdor's heavy metal song any day. ''{Trogdor's snout appears behind the blinds outside the window and Trogdor roars.}'' Waugh! Yes, sir! Sorry, sir! Right away, sir!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing in speed metal style}'' The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 
The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 
The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 
The S is for Sucks, the S is for Sucks! 

''{cut to an illustration of the S is for Sucks dragon with a caption "HAPPY TROGDAY S is for SUCKS DRAGON!!"}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on The S Is For Sucks dragon's head to see a scene with Coach Z and his attempt at drawing a dragon (or "Wormdingler") in the locker room:
:'''COACH Z''': ''{looking fatigued}'' Hi there, Wormdingler, I got youse this cupcake ''{holds up a cupcake}'' for your famous fifth birthday. You don't need no consummate V's to be my bride. Oh, did I just say that out loud? ''{he looks around repeatedly}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Strong Bad's comment about how the Internet ruined zombies, pirates, and ninjas refers to various [[Wikipedia:Internet meme|Internet memes]] that have been popular over the years.

===Trivia===
*This is the first time Trogdor has appeared in [[Free Country, USA]].
The book Strong Bad is reading is titled; "What I'm About to Say"

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad sings a song with na-nas as lyrics, which were listed as no. 2 on his [[Bottom 10]].
*In the Easter Egg, Coach Z's arms appear to be animated differently than they have been in previous toons, they appear to be drawn as a whole, instead of two seperate pieces that are manipulated. Bubs's arms saw a similar update in animation style in [[nightlife]].

===Inside References===
*The entire toon and all the dragons featured in it are a reference to the email [[dragon]], as well as to the [[Happy Trogday|Trogday]] holiday.
*The page title makes a reference to Strong Bad's replacement email-checking chair, [[Le Restige]], from [[the chair]], which is also the chair that Strong Bad sits on at the beginning.
*The music in the beginning was first heard in [[portrait]].
*This toon includes mentions of [[pants]], [[peeing]], [[style]], and [[croissants]].
*Strong Bad uses a faux [[French]] accent and wears a [[beret]] and a [[mustache]].
*Strong Bad saying "Yes sir, sorry sir, right away sir" to Trogdor is very similar to when Homestar said the same thing to Pom Pom in [[from work]].
*The newspaper headline reads "top mark [[b/w]] long V".
*Strong Bad saying "I'm fantastic Strong Bad" is similar to "I'm regular Strong Bad" from [[unnatural]].

==See Also==
*[[Trogday 08 Visuals]]

==External Links==
*[[HR:trogday08.html|Watch "Trogday 08"]]
*[[HR:trogday08.swf|View the Flash file for "Trogday 08"]]
*[[Forum:13368|Forum thread re: Trogday 08]]

[[Category:Holiday Toons]]

{{subtitlesLinks|trogday08}}

Talk:Happy Dethemberween

Jakeroth — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:38:42 GMT

Jakeroth: /**/Younger Strong Bad?

== Magic or Badges ==
Does [[Brundo the Decemberween Yak|Brundo]] say I lost all my badges or magic?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 14:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:I definitely hear a distinct "m" sound — "magic". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

::Change the transcript someone.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 14:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Firsts ==
I'm pretty sure this is the first time we've seen the thnikkachoir. Additionally is it the first time we've seen homestar in bed without his "tee-shirt + robe" nightwear? -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's definitely the first appearance of the choir... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Phone Calls? ==
It sounds to me like Strong Bad says "cold calls" instead of "phone calls," which makes a little more sense (to me, at least). [[User:Manolios|Manolios]] 15:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Seconded and edited. It's a phrase not everyone would recognize, so I'll work up an Explanation too. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Definitely agree, makes sense in the sentence and it's pretty unmistakably "cold."--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 15:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== mp3 ==

is it illegal to put up an mp3 of the song for download?
:Nah, we don't need to — in fact, I bet you one e-doughnut that it'll be this week's [[Quote of the Week]], with better audio quality! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::well, next week's probably --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 18:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== St. Olaf ==

Removed this Real-World Reference:
*The page title references the town of St. Olaf, which is the birthplace of Rose from [[Wikipedia:The Golden Girls|The Golden Girls]]. The show has been mentioned twice before, in sbmail [[helium]], and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
We can STUFF this if other people think the connection is strong enough, but note that St. Olaf was a [[Wikipedia:Olaf II of Norway|real saint]]. If there's any legitimate reference to be made here, it's to him, but I don't see the need, personally. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 16:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:I agree that the reference is more likely to the saint, and I think it's worth a mention in Real-World References, personally... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

::Go for it if you want. I just think it's a little tenuous. The fact is, it's equally likely TBC ''were'' thinking of the fictional town in Minnesota when they used that name. We've got no details on the "character", so it's impossible to tell. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Meh, there's a [[Wikipedia:St. Olaf College|college]] named after him too, along with probably a bunch of other things. But they're all named after ''him'', so I think it's fair to add a small ref about him — I'll go do it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Ah, yes, the good ole St. Olaf Oles. Which, it's been speculated, is where the Golden Girls writer got the name in the first place. Oh, Olaf, you never foresaw any of this when you subdued the Orkneys, did you? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

St. Olaf isn't a town, it's a college. The town it's in is called Northfield.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:It's a [[Wikipedia:St. Olaf, Minnesota|fictional town]], actually. Although there is a [[Wikipedia:St. Olaf Township, Minnesota|real St. Olaf Township]] in Minnesota, it's not the town the Golden Girls character grew up in, nor did she attend St. Olaf College. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 22:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't the St. Olaf College choir do a televised concert every Christmas? I'm sure I've seen it advertised on PBS (though I've never actually watched it.) —[[User: Silly Dan|Silly Dan]] [[User talk:Silly Dan|(talk)]] 23:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

==Stop Motion==

On the forum, I had suggested a Rankin Bass stop motion parody. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Wait..What? ==

Thnikkaman cant be the true meaning of decemberween, he's just a character or event that happens, how can this defie EVERYTHING that everybody said in the decemberween pagent? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 18:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
: I think you're reading way too far into it. Equate the Dethemberween Thnikkaman to Santa Claus. Many children's specials treat Santa as the "king" of Christmas or whatever. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
: ...because it's a crazy cartoon with no real meaning or chronology, just whatever they feel like putting in?--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm thinking that strong bad belives that getting unmarked media cds from the Dethemberween Thnikaman is the "True Meaning of Decemberween." Decemberween proably '''has no meaning''', anyway.
*Besides, the true meaning of Decemberween is "a non-denominational alternative to Christmas". ^_^ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

==Little Debbie==
Aren't those Little Debbie Holiday Cakes?--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Oops! It was already noted! --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:45, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== It's the THnikkaman, Strong Brown! ==

I know this is tenuous, but could Strong Bad's insistence on the Thnikkaman be a parallel for Linus' insistence on the Great Pumpkin? -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

== About Brundo... ==

If he's the Decemberween Yak, could he be a refereence to Ren & Stimpy? Most notably, the Shaved Yak/Yak-Shaving Day. {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 21:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
: That would seem to be quite a stretch.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 23:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Cleanup Tag ==

I don't think i've ever seen a cleanup tag on a toon before, but this transcript has no stage directions once the song starts, hence needing to be fixed. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe it's one of those "music video" things, where the stage direction stuff goes on a separate page. ...Except this hasn't happened yet. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think that a separate visuals page is necessary, the scene doesn't change that rapidly. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Quh-quh-quh-quh-questionable Fact ==

<blockquote>The sheriff vaguely resembles [[Wikipedia:Burl Ives|Burl Ives]], who played Sam the Snowman in ''[[Wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]],'' and his voice with the "Bu-bu-bu-bu-bye" would appear to be based on [[Wikipedia:Bing Crosby|Bing Crosby]]. (Bing Crosby himself was never animated in one of these specials, although the reference may be due to many people mistaking the [[Wikipedia:Fred Astaire|Fred Astaire]] role from the 1970 ''[[Wikipedia:Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town (TV special)|Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town]]'' as being performed by Bing Crosby.)</blockquote>

This fact is useless. How can the voice be based on if Bing Crosby wasn't even in a Rankin/Bass special? The Sheriff is most likely just based on a stereotypical Christmas narrator. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:I think the fact could be compressed to something like "The sheriff resembles Sam The Snowman from ''[[Wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]]''." and incorporated into the fact right above it. I agree that most of the stuff you quoted is dubious, but I think that the sheriff is intentionally similar to Sam The Snowman (compare the beard, etc.). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:Actually, I'm thinking it was a broader reference than that. Celebrities from the Golden Age of Hollywood were enlisted to narrate most of Rankin and Bass's Christmas specials (http://christmas-specials.wikia.com/wiki/Rankin/Bass#narrators). Bing Crosby was a contemporary of most of the actors on that list, and is well known for his own Christmas albums and specials. Also, the voice was definitely Bing Crosby, regardless of his having never been in a R&B special. Obviously you didn't watch enough Looney Tunes as a kid. I suggest you rectify this immediately. [[User: nekouken|nekouken]] 19:03, 17 December 2007 (CST)

== Deborah or Debra? ==

In the transcript it says Deborah, but I'm sure It's Debra...
: "Deborah" is a name. My spell checker accepts "Debra" but... I've got a feeling it's not considering the ''name''... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:32, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::The name comes from the Hebrew name "דבורה" - pronounced "D'vo-rah" Not hard to get from D'vorah to Devorah to Deborah. "Deborah" is the correct spelling. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Hmm, I hear two syllables (from both Marzipan and Strong Bad) — Debra. Maybe some people pronounce "Deborah" with two syllables as well, but I use three. Also, I've definitely seen "Debra" as a name before: see [http://www.google.com/search?q=debra+wiki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a lots of examples here]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Or even [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/debra here] (which may explain the spellchecker thing in its entirety). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::The "O" in "Deborah" is not heavily pronounced and sometimes not pronounced at all. That's the right way to spell it. Is "Debra" a real name? Perhaps, but never in my life have I seen it and the word conjures other images. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::It's definitely a name; I don't think it means what you think it means ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::What does he think it means? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Wait, nevermind... i got it. She's drowning in the mini golf pool. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, that and (to a lesser degree) one other thing, but neither of them is a woman's name. Doesn't matter; I have always seen the name spelled "Deborah". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::(Y'know, over the years I've noticed that there's more than a thing or two that you've never seen, done, or eaten, but that others find commonplace. Maybe you're not as well versed as you thought you were. I for sure would have thought you would have heard of [[Wikipedia:Debra Messing|Debra Messing]] or [[Wikipedia:Debra Barone|Debra Barone]].) I myself did think of Deborah when I watched the toon. I think I can even make out a slight /o/ sound as Strong Bad and Marzipan say the name, and they both have a rounded "O" mouth for a frame each time they say it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::There's also [[Wikipedia:Debra Winger|Debra Winger]], [[Wikipedia:Debra Marshall|Debra Marshall]], [[Wikipedia:Debra DiGiovanni|Debra DiGiovanni]], [[Wikipedia:Debra Wilson|Debra Wilson]], [[Wikipedia:Debra Jo Rupp|Debra Jo Rupp]], seriously the list goes on. I'd like to know where you've been living to have ''never seen Debra'' before. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::: As I was about to say to Dot Com before you Edit Conflict'd me, the ones he'd mentioned I'd never seen written out. I can't even come up with the identities of half the "Debras" you just mentioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::That would mean you've never watched "Will & Grace" before which is... well, unusual, but whatevs. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Or that I never paid close attention to the credits. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Deborah and Debra are both correct spellings of the name. I've known people with both variations. Unless we see in text from TBC themselves, we have no way of knowing which spelling they were referring to. -- S
:See, here "Deborah" is pronounced "deb-uh-ruh" while "Debra" is "deb-ruh". There's a real difference. The less ambiguous spelling should be used: Debra. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that I only hear two syllables, and "Debra" is how I read it in my head when I heard the name. On the other hand, they do definitely make the "O" shape with their mouths when they say the name, which usually means there's an O in the word that TBC are lip-synching. So, I dunno... -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 10:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sheriff of Town ==
Is it just me, or does the 'Ween Sheriff look like the KOT in an olde Weekly Stetchbook with him in Western apparel? Enough for an inside ref?
:It's clearly a reference to at least the Burl Ives-voiced snowman from Rudolf the Red-Nosed reindeer. Anything more than that would be too much of a stretch for the information available.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Perhaps, perhaps not. Here are the images in question for reference: 
[[Image:Sketchbook061103.png|150px|sheriff of town]][[Image:Dethemberween-stopmotion.png|150px|Sheriff of Ives]] 
--[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 01:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::Coincidence. The Sheriff of Town is supposed to resemble [[The King of Town]], and the sheriff in this toon does not look at all like the King. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The hat is different for one thing, and the mustache has been changed from white to brown. The SOT is not wearing a star badge. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 03:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== No Easter Egg At First ==

The page says that clicking "dang" used to replay the toon in "fixed goofs." That may be true, but I watched the toon very shortly after its release, and I'm pretty sure there was ''nothing'' clickable at the end. I don't recall whether I specifically clicked the "dang" but I did the tab trick to search for clickable spots, and only the "back" button showed up. [[User:Almsfothepudgy|Almsfothepudgy]] 01:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== "What About Strong Sad and Deborah?" ==

is it too much of a stretch to call "deborah" an inside reference to [[senior prom]] when homestar mistakes coach z with an unheard of (at the time) "deborah"? i want feedback before i or someone else adds it --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 02:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmmmmm.....an intriguing possibility. I would suggest that a third reference would seal the deal. Anybody? Number three?--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 03:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::A search for the name only turned up 2 results, but Sbemail ''was'' the first thing that came to my mind at that line. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Deth vs. Dec ==

Should Dethemberween be a seperate holiday considering it has no reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]]?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 03:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think so because they're just replacing "c" with "th". {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}

::In fact, I was toying with adding this fact to Remarks or something: If you look closely at the words that float by while the choir sings, you'll see that they do indeed say "Decemberween". The "tH" sign is taped over the front layer, but you can still see the "c" in the layers behind it. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Horn v. French Horn ==

I know that the instrument depicted in the cartoon is properly called a horn (corno in Italian on most orchestral parts I've seen), in the United states it is most often referred to as the French Horn. Additionally, there is a character called [[The Hornblower]] who plays an instrument which could be called a horn. In the interests of clarity should we not refer to it as a French Horn here on the page for this toon?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 09:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Younger Strong Bad? ==

I'm not sure about this, but does it seem to anybody that Strong Bad looks younger or smaller? He looks a lot like he did when he was younger in the paper.

User:Jakeroth

Jakeroth — Sun, 13 May 2007 15:45:30 GMT

Jakeroth:

Hi, My name is Jake. I am 10 years old, but am well skilled at computers.

[[Image:sbemail.png]]

I started watching Homestar Runner in 2007. I enjoy electronics, the Wii, Homestar Runner, karate, skiing, and Club Penguin.

http://www.clubpenguin.com/fun/images/banner/clubpenguin-banner-lg-2.gif [http://play.clubpenguin.com]

I am like, a great computer expert guy. I own Cheat Commandos and Strong Bad Sings.

So, that's pretty much what I like, oh, and if anyone plays Club Penguin, look for Weeblerjake. ''That'' would be me. Oh, yeah, '''and''' I like drawing Trogdor.

Any Questions? Post 'Em Here.

So, okay! Bye.

jakeroth

User:Jakeroth

Jakeroth — Sun, 13 May 2007 15:43:59 GMT

Jakeroth:

HRWiki:Sandbox

Jakeroth — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:23:51 GMT

Jakeroth:

Hi umm.... bye. :)

[[Image:Dangeresque.PNG]] I'm Bob.

User:Jakeroth

Jakeroth — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:07:34 GMT

Jakeroth:

Hi, My name is Jake. I am 10 years old, but am well skilled at computers. [[Image:sbemail.png]]

I started watching Homestar Runner in 2007, and love Strong Bad Emails. I think my favorite character is the Poopsmith, and I enjoy electronics, the Wii, Homestar Runner, karate, and skiing. [[Image:poopsmith.PNG]]

I am like, a great computer expert guy, and my favorite email is... umm.... I dunno, but I would guess it is... never mind. I got no idea. I own Cheat Commandos and Strong Bad Sings. My favorite song would have to be... The theme song from Dangeresque 2: This time, its not Dangeresque 1. [[Image:Dangeresque.PNG]] Totally Man, totally

So, thats pretty much what I like, oh, and I like Club Penguin. If anyone plays it, look for Weeblerjake. ''That'' would be me. Any Questions? Post 'Em Here.

So, bye.
--[[User:Jakeroth|Jake]] 21:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Jakeroth

User:Jakeroth

Jakeroth — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:23:01 GMT

Jakeroth:

Hi, My name is Jake. I am 10 years old, but am well skilled at computers. [[Image:sbemail.png]]

I started watching Homestar Runner in 2007, and love Strong Bad Emails. I think my favorite character is the Poopsmith, and I enjoy electronics, the Wii, Homestar Runner, karate, and skiing. [[Image:poopsmith.PNG]]

I am like, a great computer expert guy, and my favorite email is... umm.... I dunno, but I would guess it is... never mind. I got no idea. I own Cheat Commandos and Strong Bad Sings. My favorite song would have to be... The theme song from Dangeresque 2: This time, its not Dangeresque 1. [[Image:Dangeresque.PNG]] Totally Man, totally

So, thats pretty much what I like, oh, and I like Club Penguin. If anyone plays it, look for Weeblerjake. ''That'' would be me.

So, bye.
--[[User:Jakeroth|Jake]] 21:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Jakeroth

The Cheat Is Not Dead

Jakeroth — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:01:40 GMT

Jakeroth: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:The Cheat is not dead.PNG|thumb|300px|right|So glad The Cheat is not dead]]
== Detailed Information ==
{{Track information|album = Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits|track number = 19|length = 3 minutes and 2 seconds|artists = Strong Bad|style = [[Wikipedia:Reggae|Raggae]]/[[Wikipedia:Gospel music|Gospel]]|origin = Extended version of the song from [[Strong Bad Email]] #68 [[caper]].}}

A preview of this song was made available on the [[Main Pages]] for a short time before the CD came out.

== Lyrics ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, man. Where did we go wrong? Seems like just yesterday we were setting fire to Strong Sad's underwears. 
'''STRONG SAD:''' That WAS yesterday! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' This one's for you.

''{singing}'' 
I got mad at The Cheat (Uh!) 
For screwin' up the Jumble caper (Uh!) 
I hope I don't see his name in the paper 
In the obituaries, cause that would mean he's dead 

The Cheat is not dead 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead 
The Cheat is not dead ('''STRONG SAD:''' Dead!) 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead 
The Cheat is not dead ('''STRONG MAD:''' Dead!) 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not- 
''{spoken}'' Just the claps! Just the claps! Uh! Uh! Strong Sad, I didn't know you had any rhythm. 
'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh sure, I got tons of rhythm! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh! Uh! All right guys, keep it rollin' for me. Keep it rollin! Come on!

''{singing}'' 
I cracked wise at The Cheat 
But in my defense he cracked wise at me first 
I hope he doesn't end up in a hearse 
At the cemetery, 'cause once again that would mean that he's dead

''{choir joins in}'' 
The Cheat is not dead 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead 
The Cheat is not dead (''{spoken}'' Whoa, where'd this choir come from?) 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead 
(''{choir harmonize}'')The Cheat is not dead (''{spoken}'' You guys sound great!) 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead 
The Cheat is not dead 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead 
The Cheat is not deeaaad 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead 
The Cheat is not deeeaad 
I'm so glad The Cheat is not deeeeeeeaaaaaaaa...d

Cheat is not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Cheat is not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
No The Cheat's not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
The Cheat is not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Ohhh, he's dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
No he's not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
I said The Cheat's not dead now! (Cheat is not dead!) 
No Cheat's not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Let's call the store! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Check the receipts! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Got the frozen food! (Cheat is not dead!) 
The Cheat is not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Well The Cheat's not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Cheat is not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
No, he's never been dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Said The Cheat is not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Whoaaa, dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
Whoa, he's not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
No, he's not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
No, he's not dead! (Cheat is not dead!) 
No, The Cheat is not dead! 

Cheat is not dead!

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

== Fun Facts ==
[[Image:sbemail68.PNG|thumb|The Jumble Caper]]
*There are a few differences between the first verse of this version of the song and the version heard in [[caper]]:
**In the e-mail version, Strong Sad was standing to Strong Bad's left. Since we hear him through the left speaker, we are either on the [[Compy 386]] or somewhere behind Strong Bad.
**In the e-mail version, the slow keyboard music starts up once [[Strong Bad]] actually starts singing, and then switches over to the faster version once he gets to the chorus. In this version, the keyboard starts before Strong Bad has even started talking ("[[The Cheat]], man...") and switches over to the faster version when he starts singing.
**The timing of Strong Bad's first "Uh" is different, occurring closer to the word "Cheat". This is probably to go better with the use of the faster background music rather than the slow version.
**In the email, Strong Bad says "Ohhh" before the second time he says "I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead."
**In the e-mail version, Strong Mad yelled "Dead!" before Strong Sad. In this version, they are reversed.
**Strong Bad didn't say "Uh! Uh!" during the "just the claps" segment in the e-mail.
**In the e-mail, Strong Bad said "All right, keep it rollin' for me guys." On the CD, he says "All right guys, keep it rollin' for me."
*Until the end beginning of the second verse, the music is very similar to the email version.
*A few months after caper, a band called "Time For Living" released their debut album and single called "The Cheat Is Not Dead."
*Strong Sad's voice comes through the left speaker if you listen to the song in stereo.
*Strong Mad's voice comes through the right speaker if you listen to the song in stereo.
*This song is very similar to Petula Clark's hit "Sign of the Times."
**The ending lick is from "I Just Can't Turn You Loose" by Otis Redding and other R&B Songs. It was also used as intro music by the Blues Brothers.
*This song may parody the song style of Joe Cocker, known for his gospel songs that start downbeat, a choir randomly appears, seem to end, and then get upbeat to the concluding scream at the end.
* If you listen closely, (during the just the claps part) you can hear the song from the email playing in the background.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail68.html|Listen to the original version of the song in "caper"]]
*[[HR:sbemail68.swf|View the Flash file for Strong Bad Email "caper"]]
*[[HR:cheatnotdead.swf|Listen to a sample of the CD version]]

{{Template:Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits}}

[[Category: Songs]]

User talk:Jakeroth

Jakeroth — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:32:18 GMT

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==User:Weeblerjake==
Hey there, Jakeroth. Is there any special reason why you created the account [[User:Weeblerjake]]? Would you rather have that user name? Please choose one. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:19, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:Umm... err..... well yeah, and I am only 10, so please, no cussing, and that stuff. Thanks - Jakeroth

::Um, okay. There's no swearing on this wiki, anyway. I see you're using your Jakeroth account for editing, so I'll disable [[User:Weeblerjake]] now. Have fun!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks! I am experimenting in the Sandbox, and will try to help soon! [[Image:sbemail.png]]

- Jakeroth

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Jakeroth — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:20:11 GMT

Jakeroth:

[[Image:Quicksand.PNG|thumb|"Somewhere's out there's"]]
The '''sandbox''' is a page that anyone can edit for the purpose of experimenting with [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wiki Markup Language|Wikicode]]. It is often used when a newbie or anonny doesn't know what the [[crap]] they're doing. It is also sometimes used by more experienced users to do [[User:Venusy/April Fool's Jokes and Other Baleeted Nonsense#From the Sandbox|awexome stuff]]. This is usually a sign that they have [[Fan Costume Commentary|too much time on their hands]].

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[[Image:HeadlessSB.png|STUB'D!]] ''This article is a [[:Category:Stubs|stub]]. You can help the Homestar Runner Wiki by [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it].''
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My son thinks homestar runner is the coolest. [[Image:poopsmith.PNG]] ps i am jakeroths dad not jakeroth

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Jakeroth — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:16:25 GMT

Jakeroth: New page: Hi, My name is Jake. I am 10 years old, but am well skilled at computers. Image:sbemail.png I started watching Homestar Runner in 2007, and love Strong Bad Emails. I think my favorite...

HRWiki:Sandbox

Jakeroth — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:07:37 GMT

Jakeroth:

[[Image:Quicksand.PNG|thumb|"Somewhere's out there's"]]
The '''sandbox''' is a page that anyone can edit for the purpose of experimenting with [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wiki Markup Language|Wikicode]]. It is often used when a newbie or anonny doesn't know what the [[crap]] they're doing. It is also sometimes used by more experienced users to do [[User:Venusy/April Fool's Jokes and Other Baleeted Nonsense#From the Sandbox|awexome stuff]]. This is usually a sign that they have [[Fan Costume Commentary|too much time on their hands]].

<div class="boilerplate plainlinks" id="stub">
[[Image:HeadlessSB.png|STUB'D!]] ''This article is a [[:Category:Stubs|stub]]. You can help the Homestar Runner Wiki by [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it].''
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Hey! Who deleted my stuff! WEll, your head will a splode!!

[[Image:vectorstrongbadthumb.png‎]]
YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!
AND MAYBE THIS PAGE!

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Jakeroth — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:50:05 GMT

Jakeroth:

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Jakeroth — Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:29:57 GMT

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