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Maestro — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:30:05 GMT

Maestro:

Thi profile will not be used much.

I am ignoring this and moving on to funnier shows like RoosterTeeth's Red vs. Blue.

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:07:37 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't even need to see the article in question to know what a load of crap it is. Its already noted in the 3 Wishes facts that Strong Bad doesn't like the "crap" signitures. A whole article is overkill. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Yes, it's a running gag, but I don't think there needs to be a whole article about it. Maybe just list it in the running gags section or something. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It is a running gag and deserves its own page, though i agree the one that Jay deleted was poorly done. If 11.01 deserves its own page, <s>crafully yours</s> crap in all of its forms does as well --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''DELORTED!''' Crapfully yours, no. Crap, maybe. Ya, crap is a running gag. Crapfully yours isn't. That's like saying ''Dear Strong Bad'' is a running gag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
***Because it's a commonly used turn of phrase?
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Like I don't get two jillion of these Fun Facts every two jillion '''Second'''s! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Way too much of a stretch. Seriously. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 22:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Old Gron Sad voice?====
Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
*'''Decline.''' I didn't really hear a difference... or find it that interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Although I noticed this, it's not worth mentioning. In fact I've noticed that Strong Sad's voice has changed quite a bit lately. Probably because he's becoming less of a staticly depressed character and one with more personality. I'm rambling though so, um yeah, decline. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It still sounds like Strong Sad, both times. I hear a difference but it doesn't really translate to 'old' and 'new'. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 23:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ow! Somebody hit me on the DECLINE!''' No. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' It reminds me more of Kerropi or whatever that frog thing from Hello Kitty is called... but that's also just speculation, so... yeah. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This seems like a totally uninteresting fact to me personally, but it's true and enough people think otherwise for it to be worth including. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (<s>damn</s>, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::*Cursing is not cool, ISlayedTheKerrek, especially when it's against the rules. Don't do it again. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Clearly a direct ref.[[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 22:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** Guess again. There IS no such noun as "lurk." Verb, perhaps, but that's not how SS is using it. And SS isn't SB or SC (known for their malaprops.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Okay then, name one time before Garage Sale where TBC said lurk and not in reference to Strong Sad. And the above votes are right: Lurk as used in the egg doesn't make any sense. Just say the following sentance out loud: I'm going out for a lurk. Why use lurk when "walk" or "amble" or any similiar word would have worked? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Going against the flow here, but it seems to me that the title "lurker" as used in [[garage sale]] refers specifically to behavior in garage sales, and is not something that can be done alone at night. It's the same word, but not every repetition of a word is a reference. --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 13:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Frolic or Bet?====
When Senor Cardgage says "------ around the campfire, children", you can't tell if he's saying "gambol", which means frolicking or playing, or "gamble", which means betting (obviously). I'm leaning more toward "gambol", but please, tell me what you think. The transcript says "gamble", but I think "gambol" is more Senor Cardgage.

How bout phrasing this in a way so that deleting and accepting is possible? My suggestion:

"Senor Cardgage: Gambol around the campfire, children"

*'''Accept'''. I think gambol makes more cardgage sense, as he often uses antiquated words in weird context. Gamble is just random. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' {{User:phlip/sig}} 02:50, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, right. All of SC's malaprops are "antiquated" words that aren't just random. Like "left" ("left name"), "lawn" ("home lawn"), "cancel" (part of "free canceltation"), "denominator/wintergreen" (two options for what Cardgage can call himself in [[kind of cool]] - these are so random, I have no idea WHAT he's really trying to say!), and maybe some others I missed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* Cardgage uses words that don't have specific meanings. So I don't think this should be an issue of definition, but rather enunciation. And it sounds to me like he is pronouncing it with an "ol". So '''accept''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** Editing previous vote due to misreading: There is ''no difference'' between the proper pronunciations of "gamble" and "gambol" and it doesn't sounds to me like Cardgage is messing with the pronunciation to encourage one word over the other. So pronunciation isn't the clue we need. Neither is really the obvious word ("gather") and both are verbs so meaning is out. Only difference between the two words left is spelling - and "gamble" is by far the more common word. So I vote '''Gamble.''' But as long as it doesn't keep getting shifted back and forth and back and forth, I won't care too much. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====The Life Saving Turtle====
The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].

*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''AN ACTUAL ACCEPT.''' I checked, and it's definitely the one from the H*T, not "the show." And the "TBC reuse stuff all the time" argument doesn't work here because it's virus stuff, and one of the main things with the virus stuff is that they use a lot of old stuff. Should we get rid of the "With Marzipan's radish we're gonna win the competition" quote from the [[virus]] e-mail? [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 22:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Because this is a Homestar Runner Wiki, and the use of "Stan and Loretta" had nothing to do with what TBC intended.

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Allready voted, just a comment''' I think how it is put on [[Cell Phone]] is best.

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''You just bought yourself a decline!''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript?[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No, it isn't {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:51, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===

====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[best thing]]===

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:40:58 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. However, since [[User:Jay|Jay]] decided to challenge the validity of the accept votes, it for the moment will not be added back to the page. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''You just bought yourself a decline!''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript?[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No, it isn't {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:51, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:37:07 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. However, since [[User:Jay|Jay]] decided to challenge the validity of the accept votes, it for the moment will not be added back to the page. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''You just bought yourself a decline!''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript?[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No, it isn't {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:51, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:36:22 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Seconding a Decline pun''' It is with a solemn heart that the word "kid" is used regularly in real life, and that I don't care. So, yeah. That's it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Second. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 03:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. However, since [[User:Jay|Jay]] decided to challenge the validity of the accept votes, it for the moment will not be added back to the page. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''You just bought yourself a decline!''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript?[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No, it isn't {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:51, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Definitely ''Diff'rent Strokes''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Tiny eye difference====
The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 4and the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

Maestro — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:17:56 GMT

Maestro: /* Man, this is ''hard''! */

==ZSNES Project==
Would anyone be willing to convert Stinkoman 20X6 to an SMC file? I'm aware this would be a LOT of work to turn a flash game into a working SNES ROM, but it would be cool to play this on an SNES emulator and avoid some of the flash bugs (and frame lag).

==New Flash File==
[[HR:stinkogame/v3/stinkogame.swf|Clicky]]

==Extremely Slow Frame Rate==
Hi, I'm having a problem on all of the computers (3) in my house when trying to play this great game. Whenever I do anything that causes the level to scroll, the frame rate drops unbelievably low and everything becomes very slow and draggy. At the very beginning of Level 1.1 I don't have this problem for the first 2 seconds of playing (before I move far enough to make the scenery follow), and then when I come to a complete halt I can jump again without it slowing down. Anyone have a remedy for this, or are my computers just crappy?

:I have the same problem. —<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|✎</tt>]] 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

*I'm not convinced that this isn't intentional. It's very likely that the Brother's Chaps were trying to mimic the NES's inability to quickly draw frames. It's already obvious that this is a Mega Man clone. Maybe they're pushing it further than that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

*I've also had a slow frame rate when walking, but it's not that bad, is it? If it is, then yes, your computer is crappy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:30, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
* *sigh* No, your computer isn't crappy, they ALL do that. It's not an imitation either, Flash is actually that slow. Also when the meteors crash, they aren't emulating anything! Flash is just that slow!

==Fixing spelling==
I fixed a couple of spelling errors: "parodys" > "parodies", and changed "cinema" to "cinematic". Just so you guys know I wasn't fixing the transcripted stuff. - MHG

== Where did it go? ==
It is gone... it dissapeared...

What??

== Can I be the first to say "COOL!" ==

TBC have really done it this time! Great music, title screen, but now on the Fanstuf wiki we need to call him 1-up, not Kidstar. sigh... - [[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]]

==Like Zero Wing in 2 Ways==
This game reminds me of Zero Wing in two ways.
1. Translating errors (fake in this game, obviously)
2. Long levels with no check points. I can't get past the first level in either game. Every time you die, no matter how far you are in the level, you go back to the beginning. And you can't save in the middle either. --[[User:152.163.101.8|152.163.101.8]] 14:59, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Actually, in Zerowing when you die, it'll bring you to a midpoint, if you've gotten that far. I've beaten the entire game so I should know. =P --nickshorts

==Man, this is ''hard''!==
Holy Crap! This game is so hard (to me) it blows my mind! Tough jumps, no checkpoints, the works! I can't even beat level 1.2! Arrrrgh! ...Whew. Glad I got that outta my system. On a lighter note, this is a great game, if not a bit hard. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*Don't feel bad, AceKirby. I can't even get past level 1.1! [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**Whew, that makes me feel better man. I needed some serious clown care there for a second. But I ''did'' end up beating the game, which was great. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not as hard as you think. I suck garbage (expletive deleted) at video games, but I can do levels 1.1-3.3 jut fine. 4.1 I can't get past, but i'm getting closer.
**Dear whoever, this was written mighty long ago, and I have since then beaten levels 1.1-5.1. I just can't beat level 5.2 now! I want to fight Nebulon! ARRRRRRRGHBLBLBLBL!!! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:26, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Dude, I can defeat Nebulon like cake, man. I wrote the walkthroughs for level 5 (except for the cutscenes, boss and part of level 5.2) I still can't get past anything on level 4 because if I press a button too long it gets stuck in running position. [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]
:Whoa- you missed my point. I haven't even fought Nebulon. I can't get by the point where there is like 4 Downtants in a row. They always deplete my health fast! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 23:48, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I just want to start with, HELLO! This is a stinkon' easy game when you practice, by learning timing from experience or taking altrnative routes. (these will help on level 6. It took me a while until I beat the mouse.)-Amy Whifflepoof, not signed in.
By the way acekirby(whoever you are). I can beat 5.2 easily. All you have to do is stand on the edge and make sure NOTHING is under one foot. Then, to avoid Downtant fire, simply jump. Actually, the truth is, I can beat it easily because my lappy is extremely slow and old. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]].

==Difficultly fun==
This game is hard, but I found it fun. I guess I'm good a video games or something, because although I was challenged, I beat the whole game in under an hour. Can't wait for more levels. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Indeed... more levels seem an inevitability (why else do they have scroll buttons in the "CONTINUTE" menu?). As for the difficulty... well, let's just say it reflects the ''Mega Man'' series in more ways than one. ;) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::The Brothers Chaps captured the oldschool Mega Man feel better than I would have expected. I hope they don't get sued by Capcom! [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:51, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::I dunno...the continute menu scroll buttons could be there just to mislead you. If so, I wouldn't be surprised. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

==BEAT THAT!==
I beat the whole game (Stage 1.1 to 3.3) in 19 minutes without a single game over. Can anyone beat that? (I did lose two lives though) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

I did, and I only lost one life. I think it took me about 23 minutes, though.[[User:Ekul|The Marauding Maniac]]

My best with one life lost on the last boss:

00:00 start 
01:23 end level 1.1 
02:52 end level 1.2 
03:29 end level 1 boss 
05:45 end level 2.1 
08:09 end level 2.2 
09:41 end level 2 boss 
10:52 end level 3.1 
11:30 end level 3.2 
12:04 end level 3 boss 
14:34 end level 4.1 
17:12 end level 4.2 
19:59 end level 4 boss 
22:05 end level 5.1 
24:31 end level 5.2 
27:23 end level 5 boss (1 life lost here) 

I beat 1.1-3.3 in 21 minutes, losing 0 lives. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

I can do 1.1-3.3 in a few minutes with no lives lost!-Amy whifflepoof

You guys have way too much free time. I can beat Level 1-1 In 10 mins and lose 2 lives!! --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 21:04, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

I timed 139 measures of music in 5.2 a minute ago. I can't say how that compares with your score since I timed it in measures of music, not seconds. (I and noticed that I shaved about 3 measures of music taking the bottom path when the top has the huge conveyor belt, even when jumping against the belt and taking a shortcut to the bottom, and even though the bottom path has a short wait time to get the stupid platform within jumping distance. Less fall time, no ladders. I also took the bottom path when it split into four tiers - less fall time, and there's a forward-moving conveyor belt that doesn't lead to a spike along the way.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
:I cut it down to 2:02! And this time I made a bunch of silly mistakes I didn't make the first! How? Well, I played it in .swf mode and made the screen small (but still big enough that I could see it all!) Scrolling the screen in full-size mode seems to create some minor slowdown (for me), so removing that slowdown severely cut my time (I technically was still counting measures of music (116) and just did the math from there. The music's speed didn't seem to be affected no matter what I did.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:54, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
:I cut it down to 2:02! And this time I made a bunch of silly mistakes I didn't make the first! How? Well, I played it in .swf mode and made the screen small (but still big enough that I could see it all!) Scrolling the screen in full-size mode seems to create some minor slowdown (for me), so removing that slowdown severely cut my time (I technically was still counting measures of music (116) and just did the math from there. The music's speed didn't seem to be affected no matter what I did.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:54, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Am I the only one... ==

...who can't get the plain .SWF working? I can play the game (beat it not too long ago, good game, can't wait for the expansion packs-of-sorts), but only using the standard link. I can't play it online or offline using just the .SWF file. Firefox stays perpetually on "Load it up". IE6 gets farther than that, as it goes to a black screen after that and never gets out. So... anyone else? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:26, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I couldn't get the .swf file loading on my computer. It would just stay a blank black screen. The regular game worked fine, though. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:15, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
It's working for me in IE, but in Firefox it just stays on the loading screen. edit: actually, offline it doesn't work on either. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 11:31, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
I think I know why it won't work offline: The game is so big it depends on multiple files to play, like the object library. I've been trying to find out names for single levels. So far, no luck. [[User:unknown|unknown]]
:Read the topic in this page with "XML" as its header. It has links to all the levels (save 4.x). Just slap 'em in a folder called "levelData" in the same directory as the game itself, and it SHOULD work. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:33, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

==Is the game meant to...==
Drop you into a giant hole at the beginning of Level 1.1? The game loads up, but as soon as I click play game, I get dropped into a pit until I die 3 times. Any ideas, or is it whatever glitched up [[virus]] for me? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:36, 22 Mar 2005
:I hear on Fark that it depends on your browser. Try switching to another. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:39, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
::This happened to me too, while running IE. I tried Mozilla and it worked. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Thank you, but annoyingly enough, I can't install any alternative browser. My administrator believes that they let in viruses. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 02:52, 22 Mar 2005
:::I had the same problem, except for me the bug happened in Opera but it worked in IE. --JZ
:Found the problem (for me at least), in Version 1.1, there's a little notice saying "Flash 7 Required". I only have Flash 6. I wonder why TBC didn't go for the full screen message, a la [[Duck Guardian]]. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 06:30, 22 Mar 2005
::Well, that's probably what your problem is indeed... but specifically, I'm guessing the game isn't loading the XML files from the leveldata folder, hence nothing happens. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:35, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Music==
If anyone could find the game's music files, I'd be much obliged. That was my favorite part. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 19:47, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Same here, I was listening to it whilst working on assignments, but I found that if you open up the game and start, leave it for about half an hour without doing anything, the music just stops and doesn't come back unless you lose a life. [[User:M.J|M.J]]

The first level's music is top-notch if extremely Sonic. Not as good as Duck Guardian, mind.

:Actually, it strikes me as much more like - surprise! - ''Mega Man'' tunes, particularly the opening stage of ''MMVII''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:32, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Yeah... Both of those tunes are awesome, and I was listening to a MM7 midi file right before I played it. I thought, "Hey, that's MM music!" --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:35, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm pretty sure online Flash games don't have "music files" It's been my experience that Flash usually packs all its resources (sound, bmps) into the final SWF.
*Oh, well. Maybe they'll add it to [http://videlectrix.com/videlectrix_music.html Videlectrix Music] soon. [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 11:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
::[http://www.vgmusic.com/new-files/ VGMusic] has some MIDIs in their New Files section, FYI. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:06, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

*Holy crap, they added to Videlectrix.

== NYU Demo ==

At the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]] they showed an awesome demo to this, and as I recall, I think the sporks from 2.2 were originally in 1.1 and 1.2. The first two levels that TBC made were 1.1 and 3.1.--[[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 21:28, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== JoyToKey (This is a little OT) ==

Anyone with a joypad needs to download [http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA016823/joytokey/english.html JoyToKey]. It's especially important for this game; really adds to the feel. Total, man. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:00, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Capsules ==

*The health-restoring pills are a reference to the Strong Bad E-Mail time capsule.
** They are also a reference to the Scrolling Shooter Games Menu, where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.

Tons of games have capsules and it's doubtful this is an inside reference. Didn't the original Megaman hae capsules? Granted they looked different, but I don't think this is a reference to [[time capsule]], and I think it's a coincidence that the games menu also has capsules. What's next, someone chimes in with "It may be a reference to Dr. Mario"? Sorry, I'm over-analytical so I'll keep it since others may not agree with me on this. If anyone else does though, maybe we should take this to [[STUFF]]. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 23:07, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

*** The NES Mega Man games had no such things... I don't think it's a Dr. Mario reference either, considering the Doc isn't too "retro". I think it's more likely a "time capsule" reference...

:Although I'm not sure about the games menu reference anymore, I do believe it's a reference to time capsule because:
*They are identical looking
*In time capsule, the pill gave him an energy boost.

I'm pretty confident that it's a [[time capsule]] reference myself. It DOES look exactly the same, and Stinkoman interacted with that capsule too. Don't name individual video games, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:13, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== About the Gas stoves... ==

What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. Any oil lamps in Free Country? well, I just thought it necessary to comment. Thanks for reading it.

--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 00:43, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== CONTINUTE? ==

Early on I added a comment about the CONTINUTE item in the main menu being misspelled possibly intentionally, but it was removed in the revision http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6&diff=56256&oldid=56255. This still exists in Version 1.1. I guess this item was removed because it was too obvious, given that the poor translation is already specified? Just wondering.

== this and peasant's quest. ==

in peasant's quest, it seems the cookies expire after you close your browser window.

is there a way to tweak the cookie to not die, or is it supposed to keep active and i just need to adjust cookie settings?

*Must be your browser settings. Works fine for me. --JZ

*Not really. On my computer, I can save a Peasant's Quest game for months, no matter how screwy it really is. [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]] 15:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Continute not working? ==

I got all the way to level 2.2 before I got a Game Over, but the continute button wouldn't work. Is there a problem wth my browser, or maybe a new version of Flash Player I need to get?

I've had the same problem. Anyone know why the continue function isn't working?

"Continue" remains greyed-out for me as well. My browser's set to accept all cookies from homestarrunner.com, and I can't see anything in my Flash prefs about denying local storage (it's set to allow homestarrunner.com to store 100K of data currently). For reference, I'm running this on Linux, Mozilla 1.7.5, and Flash 7.0.25. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 14:05, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

* Ah, seems that v1.3 has fixed the problems. My system is now allowing me to access the continue menu. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 12:52, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

' Happened to me too. My guess is the versoin change from 1.0 to 1.1 --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 16:14, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

Here's a key point: The continute button only becomes available after you've beaten the game regularly. That had me thrown off for a while...until I beat it!

*Seems to be fixed in v1.3.
** Indeed it does. Works for me now. [[User:sekhmet|sekhmet]] 12:52, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Glitch ==

[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|220px|Stinkoman stand on air!]]
I found a little glitch in the game, just wanted to share :)
It's in Level 1.1, you'll probably recognize the spot. I'm guessing the box for the ledge on the right side passes through the wall.
*Looks like it. I've noticed that before. Looks pretty funny actually.
*Well, its because stinkoman is actually standing on the land on the other side because on these games you can stand with one pixel of the shoe on the land and the rest in the air. Try it on other lands.

*Hey, the game is now apparently v1.2 I think this glitch has been fixed.
::Nope, it's still there. I don't think they'll bother fixing it, it doesn't make any real difference IMO.
*This is so stupid! I got all the way to level 2.2, and got stuck in that place you can't escape (I never died out), so I refreshed the page, and I looked at the continue button, only to find it didn't work! I am so fed up with this! Someone better find some way to fix this, 'cause I'm not playiong through all that again! Stinkoman moves way too slow to have to go through that excruciatingly tempoed sidescrolling nightmare again! Can someone please fix this, or find a solution, that doesn't make you have to play the game all over again? Much thanks in advance.
**You must have a slow computer, no name. The game isn't really as annoying on fast ones, where it goes smooth. Anyway, I have no idea what place you are talking about. I don't know any traps in level 2.2. (Maybe you should look at the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough|walkthrough]]?)--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:07, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
** I'd fix it, but I don't have the flash or the website, soooo... That's weird

== Stinkomanual? ==

Am I the only one who can't find this, whatever it is?--[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]

* It should be a link right under the controls button at the start menu?

== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v4, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:57, 23 May 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

==Filmography?==
I've been wondering, does this count as an appearance in Stinkoman Filmography, or do games not count? --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 20:57, 23 Mar 2005 (GMT)
*On this site, I'm sure there'd be no way to stop people from saying so. However; I in all due respects, say if it's a FILMography, it's for FILMS. Go see if there's some kind of GAME-ograpgy if you want to count that!
**IMDB lists video games in filmographies. --JZ

== Save file ==

Does anyone know the name of the file which holds the save data for the game? I have downloaded all the other necessary files but I want to have a save file in there so I don't have to play through all the levels again (Yes, I have beaten the first 3.)

On XP it's the C:\Documents and Settings\<USERNAME>\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\<randomID>\www.homestarrunner.com\stinkogame\stinkogame.swf\stinkoman.sol file.
I haven't checked, but I imagine on 9x/ME it's in the C:\Windows\Application Data\... folder.
No idea on other OSes. [[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

== <s>Level 3.1</s> Level 3.2 -- HOW!? ==

How do you beat level 3.1? Do you have to collect some fixed amount of gold or wait a certan amount of time? I can't beat it!
:Collect 20 pieces of gold from the rain drops. I believe it tells you that when you start the level. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:22, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Oops, I didn't read that. Well I got to 3.2, but now I can't get more than 4. Every freakin' piece of bread is surrounded by like 50 other things. Plus, there's one piece every like 50 screens.
:::You have to collect 10 pieces of bread, and each bad item deletes a bread you got. That's really all there is to it. A good idea is to just avoid everything until you reach a bread all by itself. It's not really as hard as you say. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:08, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::Little tip; Bread usually come in clusters. if you hang in one spot and dodge all the bad things, you can get about 2 breads.

== Proofs of more levels ==

Is anyone else really annoyed by all the fun facts in the "Remarks" section that say "This is shown in the game so it means there will be more levels"? I'm not going to get RID of them, because they are true, but it seems pretty obvious by the MORE LEVELS SOON screen that there will be more levels. We don't need any other worthless proof. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 12:22, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Do you have to beat the game to get that screen? 'Cause many haven't beat'd it yet.
:Yes, but it's in the section anyway. Or at least it should be. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 12:54, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Low Quality...! ==

Hey...I just noticed something...the game is initially set to low quality. If you make it better, it just looks more blurry. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 18:46, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yeah, they always make the games with a classic look. Sometimes loads faster that way. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Is no good for you ==

I think the 'Don't drink, is no good for you' is a reference Tuco's line in 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly'.
*I think more likely it's a reference to the "don't do drugs" messages a lot of arcade games used to have (still have?)--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 18:35, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Yep, they still have them. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 11:24, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Doesn't work on OS X? ==

I simply cannot get the game to work here on OS X. I've tried different browsers, HTML and SWF, visiting mirror sites -- every time the same thing happens: when I click new game and get past the little startup movie to the part where the character appears on the screen, I simply cannot get Stinkoman to move. None of the keys seem to work. He just stays there and waits. Any ideas? The keyboard works in all the other games. [[User:AaronSw|AaronSw]] 23:55, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

:[http://macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash Do you have the latest version of flash?] --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

::Yes.

:If you don't click on the actual flash file (example: clicking around the actual game) will make it so the game doesn't respond to your commands. Click the game to see. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:17, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

== Add an article on custom levels? ==

I think we should have an article on it, and provide external links to all levels people have made. Who thinks this is a good idea? -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:33, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I think that's what Fanstuff's for. Not that I know for sure, I've only messed with the main Wiki. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:05, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Yes, that is what Fanstuff wiki is for. That's the whole reason it was created- fan material. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:But an article about level editing might be okay. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Current Level Editing Status ==

Has anyone made anymore headway into level editing? I've got the whole thing working locally, and can even edit the XML files to make simple changes, however I do not have the time nor experience to make a level editor.

Additionally, in the XML files, the <D> field seems to just be an object count, but what could <sT> be?

I think some serious inspection of the SWF file and the code is needed before we can do full-featured levels. especially for cT types.

Also trying to figure out how to launch the level editor - I see the entire class. Is there a Flash debugger where I can call a function/object at will?

:I just finished a level editor, after all kind'sa studying that <sT> stuff. I'll try to get it out soon. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

I already have a great working editor for this game. I had it finished a week after Stinkoman first came out. A new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip
superjoe30@gmail.com

*The cutscenes don't work... And you can't create a dumb wall level. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 08:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*But how COULD you create a Dumb Wall level? This thing is great. I already have an evil, evil replacement for 1.1 and part of a 4.1 replacement (1-Up is placed automatically.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:24, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

I didn't include the cutscenes in the package because you don't need them to make levels. If you want to watch the cutscenes, play the real game.

== Fading Blue Boxes ==
I didn't want to post this in the article, but I don't think Flash would generate those fading blue boxes. I um, really don't see how. Besides, how would there be such oddly shaped boxes? I thought it was just a Nintendo thingy.

It was a reference to Nintendo games that left those artifacts. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|ackicantthinkofaname]]

== Article on custom levels ==
I made one where you can put the code for your custom level [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|here]] on the fanstuff wiki. Should I put a link to it on the Stinkoman 20X6 page? --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 16:29, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
:I don't think so as of yet. If levels are added and stuff, and a tutorial on how to do make a level, then sure. But that's my opinion. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:46, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== When you see a boss... ==

When a boss comes up on the screen, some voice shouts something. Do you know it says?

Catsmeat

Something on the lines of "Are you asking for a challenge?" You could have found that out on the walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:49, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

Yeah.. That's Stinkoman.

In level 5 it's "I want to be the guy too!", though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 10:43, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Tonberry reference? ==

In the manual entry for "pooru-pooru", it states, "Land on one and it's DOINK for you!"
I swear this is a reference to Tonberrys from the Final Fantasy series. Can anyone confirm this?
--Bdragon

Doink is a sound word. It's just another case of <strike>ottomatopeia</strike> <strike>otamatapia</strike> <strike>otttamadapeia</strike> I can't spell it, whatever it is. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 21:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

: I believe you want: onomatopoeia

== Declined Fun Facts ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==Update Ahoy!==
Stinkoman 20X6 has been taken off the H*R website. TBC are probably updating it. I can just smell new levels! -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:50, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* I sure as heck hope they are! I was going to try to play it (I haven't in a while) but it was gone! --MessedRocker (not registered)

:Me too! I'm almost certain that it's an update on the game. I '''CAN'T WAIT!''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:12, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* Well, I think we should all join hands and pray with all our hearts that [[Trogador]] is finally publicly revealed! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 11:39, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Have you played it? Is he in there? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

* I doubt it. Trogador page:"According to TBC, he is likely never going to be used on the site." [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Uh, uh, uh! You stopped a little short there, pal. The full sentence is "According to TBC, he is likely never going to be used on the site, but they may yet change their minds." I think that they ''might'' put him in there as a boss, but that's just me. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:58, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* The game has been updated with at least one new level. --[[User:63.202.45.187|63.202.45.187]] 22:20, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

* A beatable, npcTrogdor? Cool! I just whipped 4.3. 10 euros says they'll never rescue Pan-Pan. (Who kidnapped him anyways???)
::I'm predicting a Stinkly Man appearance soon. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::It was the same silohouette(where's the spelling fairy when you need it?) that kidnaps 1-Up. It was da Coach!

* Well, there appears to be no Trogador throughout the new level, but we'll see. When I heard them say that they probably wouldn't use him at the NYU thing, they seemed pretty unsure, so just pray. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:49, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*I wouldn't even want him in the game. I love the new level, though. Great difficulty. Too bad I beat it in a few minutes. No new power up?? Then they could have at least let me keep that fist... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:28, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*Man, the new level is really hard! The others were a snap, but I just can't beat the "puzzle" in 4.1! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 20:18, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*It looks like the "barking" sound that 1-UP makes in the level 2 cutscene (following the level 1 boss) has been removed. It's present in the level 4 cutscene (following the 3 boss), though. Bug?

*When you get to a boss level, and loose a life, is it just me or does the floor disappear in later lives (and hence you fall through and loose immediately)?

*New levels...'''YET AGAIN!''' Man, TBC are just cranking out the levels now! It's great! ...but I can't beat level 5.2... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

==Level 6==
*I wonder what level 6 will be like. I know you control stinkoman again, but any other ideas about it? --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 01:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Maybe it will be where the final boss is the silloute dingie. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 01:44, 13 May 2005 (UTC) again
*It will most likely have a cloud-like design, because several of the next, unseen platforms and hazards have a cloud-theme. (I know this by working with an editor) -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 01:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* Or maybe and ice world, almost every video game has fire and ice levels. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
** There probably will be an ice level (Level 4 counts as a fire level), but it won't be level 6, which is almost definately going to be in the clouds: [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=104724#104724] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*Maybe 1-up has to get back from the moon via space station, or to make it even more fantastic, he has to bomb a Death Star maybe. Or... Pan Pan has been sold to bounty hunters and you have to get him back...[[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]] 15:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

*We shall soon see, I went to play Stinkoman just now and it wouldn't load, but the address bar said it was version 4. You know what that means; update, more levels, WOO!

Oh and I realize level 4 was a fire board, I not that dumb.[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*It's already up, though I didn't notice it on the main page. And let me tell you: 6.1 wasn't that bad, but 6.2 is EVIL INCARNATE! Those stupid rising-and-lowering electrical outlet things almost never fail to take one or two units of life from me each, there's precarious jumping everywhere, and so far, I've only found one Power Crunch - pretty far in, too (though not as hard to grab as it looks.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:26, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
** Urgh. Finally made it to the boss - with two units of energy left and no reserve lives. It's a tornado with glasses, BTW (don't know its name because I can't get the Episode 6 portion of the Stinkomanuel to load. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:38, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
** The boss is evil too. Finally made it with three lives, but it didn't help (thanks to the lack of checkpoints and the ability to start at any reached non-boss level, I learned that there's no reason not to restart when you lose one life in a stage - except that it takes a little bit longer.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:47, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*** The boss has a pretty predictable pattern, so he's pretty easy to beat. The only problem is that he takes so many hits to kill that if you make a few stupid mistakes, you're screwed.
*The one thing that really got me on this one was level 6.2's ending. Level 5.2 was hard enough with the several Downtants, but the platform that you need to reach in order to beat 6.2 was unbelievably difficult. If you didn't time it just right, you were dead. It took me several tries to get it. I didn't find anything else so difficult about level 6.2, I was able to get to the end-area with 3 lives and full health usually, after all the losses on the end platform. In the end I finally beat it. But then again, level 7 won't be any easier... unless it's something like level 3. --SBEmail22
*Level 6 was ridiculously easy. It was really rather anticlimatic after level 5 was so hard. I spent days on level 5. Level 6 took 15 minutes.
*This is one of the hardest videogame boards I have ever played. Level 6 is almost unbeatable, kudos to TBC for giving this video game nut a good challenge (pardon the pun) [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*The lack of checkpoints '''kill''' me in this game! I always get to the last two disintegrating clouds (on level 6.2) and then jump, but the freakin' up-down bar crap drops! AGH! I can even see the * Flag! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

== Did Anyone Else Get This Glitch? ==

So I'm playing through my favoriate scene 2.2, and I get to 2.3, mr. big bird starts attacking.
Its 11:19PM and I don't care, so I let myself die... Bird's feet weaken me to my last power-up, then the beak attack does me in... I have 2 mans left, but the return of the challenge hasn't a floor... I fall to my doom... and it repeats... V.3 of the game... What's up with this?

* Happened to me, too, in both V3 and 4. Same thing happens with level 1's boss fight. No idea why. It worked fine in earlier versions. Happens with both locally-saved and website copies, in Firefox and IE (same plugin, so that's not surprising). --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 23:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure Revealed! ==

At the end of the boss battle in 5.2 take a chose look at the mysterious figure. He has a perfectly round head with a what looks like a baseball cap. Which makes him 20X6 Coach Z.

Mystery solved.

Whoa... Couch Z! You sit on him and watch your old Star Wars movies! Hey look! I found a quarter! [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

*I fixed the spelling, you know there are nicer ways to tell someone they made a mistake.

I knew it all along. Seriously, that was quite obvious. I think his name is Coach X. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:19, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree, I also do know he will be found by who I call "Cheat-o-oki". Too obvious... [[user:Mr.NiceGuy|Mr.NiceGuy]]

== Don't read this if you like the game ==

I don't want to start a flame war (even though I probably will), but I just have to say that I'm really starting to hate this game. Aside from being pointlessly difficult, it doesn't really capture the fun that Megaman (and games of that era) had. For one, Megaman was about killing enemies with cool weapons, not hopping around on platforms and avoiding indestructible saw blades. Sure, Megaman had that, but it was never the case that the best strategy was to avoid enemies (which seems to be the case in Stinkoman). And what's up with the fact that you inevitably have to go completely out of your way in order to get a power pill, which means that after you're done backtracking your power is most likely right back where you started. The storyline is completely flat, and seems to revolve around the characters sitting at home, and then leaving home to go somewhere, and just generally ignoring the storyline. It's probably just me, but after suffering though 6.1 I have no desire to continue on to 6.2. Granted, they're working with limited media, but still... [[User:24.239.141.162|24.239.141.162]] 22:41, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm with you on the difficulty, brother. I don't see anything else wrong with the game. But that's just Videlectrix.

Oh, wait, did I mention Edsmilde has a level editor so that you can make it easier or so? It might help. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 22:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's the point. Not to make it a "cool" game, but to make it funny, like everything else on the website. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 22:54, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:But.. It would be funnier if it was only one level and you didn't have to play through it... like Super Kingio Bros. [[User:24.239.141.162|24.239.141.162]] 23:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, but that would suck. At least this one is a real game. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 23:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

If it wasn't too much of a hassle (since a lot of the difficulty has to do with jumping), it would be nice to have different difficulty levels. As it stands, this game is too ''easy'' for me, but I know people who have trouble with the first level. I guess it just depends on what you're into... I happen to love the game (as much as one can love a game, anyway).

== Object Library Links ==

Is there any point to having the object library links (cutsceneds/xml/etc) at the bottom of the page? I saw that Philip added them there in the last few days, and I'm wondering what the point is....you can't do anything with them really. (Unless i'm missing the point) Should we remove the links? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 14:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

:I'm not entirely sure whether to remove them or not. They can be used to mod the game, and I guess he thought that only a few people could find them in my post in the [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6#XML|XML]] section. I'll leave 'em for now, and see if anyone else has any opinions on this. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:14, 18 May 2005 (BST)

:Well I figured we link to things like the virus'd Sketchbook and such in [[virus]], so I may as well put all those links there. Besides, my reasoning was that this is a wiki - if it shouldn't be there then someone will remove it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:24, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

::Someone has. Unfortunately, it was Trogga, and he has a reputation for cleaning a ''little'' too much up, as seen in this edit [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Sightings&diff=78777&oldid=78657 here]. No one else seemed to have any opinion about this, so add 'em back if you want. I think I'll put them on my user page actually, to preserve the links. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:44, 23 May 2005 (BST)

== Quick Tidbit For Level 6.2 ==

Lets say you make it all the way to the bluetant and 3-prong... near the end...
choice a) go up and avoid two 3-prongs, then dodge ligtning & two saws...
choice b) kill the bluetant, manage up some difficult evaporating clouds, face a bluetant, lightning & two 3-prongs as if you made it past choice a.

Tidbit: if you're any good at this level, and you can make it up choice A unscratched... then do not kill the power-crunch bluetant (or if you do, then don't get the power crunch)... go up choice A, make it to the bluetant... if you kill the bluetant, unharmed, then awesome! Only two lightning bolts and two 3-prongs to go!!! However, if you want to beat the boss, you'll need all your life... say you make a mistake and lose two lives...

backtrack to where choice Bbrings you... right before the 2 bolts and prongs... go down the clouds, and you'll have a powercrunch awaiting for you... then go back up the EVs, because that's the easiest, least deadly... you don't have to worry about that bluetant, and just go through the bolts and prongs again... do it good, full life... beat the boss... kick the mouse... and see the same TV that Stinkoman has...

yeah how to do it:
1) the cloud starts coming at you, when he does it, and on his first land, run imeediately to teh first place he lands for what reason you ask:? so when hekeeps going you can shoot him, only shoot at his sun glasses , its seeming to be the only place that harms him, keep this up, You will then have some lightning shoot after the 2nd time, run just one distance away from the edge of the screen ( so the tornado doesnt get two shots on you )whichever closer to avoid it. Now if you keep this up for three times, the tornado will shoot around 5, just stay close to him to avoid them. then run away , say to the left, and he will land one place, run to that spot and keep on shooting. I just developed this strategy, and woudl you believe it, a Mouse.. a mouse was causing all of that - thats got you wanting to play even more to see if im telling the truth!
--John

== Trolling ==

Someone (looged out at the time) did tons of trolling on this page. I fixed it now, but a list of what they did can be found [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6&curid=5991&diff=87772&oldid=87769 here]. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:30, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

:Go report it at [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, of course. Thank you. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Looooooong Fall ==

The reason there is a looooooooong fall on level 2.2 is that you keep climbing up and up yet brody is on the kitchen floor. This won't work in level 6, provided with the fact all clouds look the same, not like the kitchen counters.-Amy Whifflepoof

== Magic Pockets? ==

Did anybody else think that the level 6 boss was reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets? The boss is a giant whirlwind that bounces and shoots bubbles from its top. In the first stage of Magic Pockets, the character attacks by throwing whirlwinds that bounce. If the fire button is held long enough, the whirlwinds are large and spit smaller whirlwinds from their tops. (There might be a powerup needed as well, I'll check up on it)

That sounds great, but the tornado reminds me of the mouse with sunglasses boss in super mario advance who throws bob-ombs at you. Um.. it's probably a Magic Pockets ref, though......

Quoting from the page "Liekand could be a reference to Super Mario Bros. 2 where the boss of the 4th level was a flame wearing sunglasses called "Fryguy", along with the fat mouse refering to the first boss, "Mouser". The bubble sprite used for Liekand's attack looks like the same sprite used for Wart's attack in Super Mario Bros. 2.". It seems like the character's drawing on multiple references already. Being a newbie, I'm unsure about the procedure for adding mine (there doesn't seem to be a Stinkoman 20X6 category on STUFF,for example).--[[User:Electric Monkey|Electric Monkey]] 21:42, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure how I'd vote on it, but there IS a Stinkoman 20x6 section on [[STUFF]] - or, at least, there used to be if there isn't now. It's under "Games". If it doesn't exist, feel free to add it if you want to STUFF a fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Powercrunch? ==

I think we should change all the "Powercrunches" into "capsules". In the email, the red and white thing was a capsule, and the powercrunch was the tape. When 1-up takes Stinkoman's powercrunch in the game, it is also a tape. --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 16:01, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

I disagree, they're two different things, with two different usages, the capsule is for restoring health, and you can ask Joshua about what the power crunch does... --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 15:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that's what I was trying to say. The Enemies list and walkthroughs have the capsules listed as powersrunches. I think we should change those so they say capsules. --[[User:68.236.19.26|68.236.19.26]] 15:56, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think you have a point. I don't believe that the capsules are ever called power crunches, but the tape definately is. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''You just bought yourself a decline!''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript?[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the 70's/80's TV show [[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]].

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''You just bought yourself a decline!''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript?

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the 70's/80's TV show [[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]].

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:45:33 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the 70's/80's TV show [[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]].

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:45:04 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the 70's/80's TV show [[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]].

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:40:21 GMT

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

==="Crapfully yours" a running gag?===
Is this a valid running gag? I wrote up a whole article on it (in particular referencing the email where he finally informed viewers that signing emails in that way was not required) and [[User:Jay|Jay]] deleted it in the middle of the night, instead of moving it here. This action is contrary to the idea of Wiki. The article is lost forever now, but at least we can decide if the decision was right and whether it should be reposted.
* The STUFF page is for Fun Facts, not deleted articles. Anyway, the "crap" page as it formerly existed was very disorganized and included many non sequiturs. And all those redirects were unnecessary even if we'd kept it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** That is a matter of opinion... you haven't given any other Wiki users the chance to see it and decide for themselves. Plus, any issues would probably have been fixed by other users quickly. I think this one deserves a vote, and I'd like to know where to vote on it if not here?
*** Okay, fine. Reinstate [[Talk:Crap]] if it suits you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheatday]]===

====Get outta here kid?====
Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
*'''Decline''' If this fact stretches anymore it’ll snap in half. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
** I understand it's not exact, but why else would the word "kid" be used.
*'''Here DECLINES the Cheata- There DECLINES the Cheatachu! Yeah, shut up kid!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No not really [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*** You're right about the source, but I'm not into KP enough that I'd want to head over to their Wiki - I just thought of Señor Senior, Sr. when adding this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Just jokin' about the KP Wiki. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
*'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''--[[User:the big dog|the big dog]] 18:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005
*ACCEPT'D! Yeah, they do look closer together than usually.-Sailor Marzi, June 3, 2005, 12:14 PM

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''No it looks more like a cold pill [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:for kids]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has beem moved to [[Talk:the bird]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:the process]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I'm guessing "Always Decline A They Might Be Giants Reference" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****The fact actually should not listed as a reference. It should be an explanation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:22, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond? Part 6====
"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the 70's/80's TV show [[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]].

*'''Accept.''' Resubmitted the de-TTATOT-ized fact with the most likely reference. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I dunno. Why does the King Of Town eat underarm deodorant? How does Homestar hold stuff without any arms? How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? It's just one of those unanswerable questions that makes the H*R universe so hilarious! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:32:29 GMT

Maestro: /* 3 Coins Halloween Punjob */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts lthat have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005
*'''No!'''No, you people are SO technical! Think of what a normal person just watching the toon would see! He's running fast, everything around him is a blur, so you wouldn't notice it! Of course they didn't use one, but they don't have to there. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Too obvious, more than likely deliberate, and not all that "fun" in any case. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even if they're a bit similar, it's nothing worth noting. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
***'''Seconded.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Sorry, Declined!''' This guy is dumb. Obviously the blue ones do NOT mean blue cold ones or blue numbers. It means a blue item with THIS NUMBER:1. All of us probably use this type of language all the time. For example:I already have those ones![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' Actually a very good catch. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' though that show was hosted by a British guy there are a lot of real life PBS shows hosted by British people, like almost every NOVA episode ever made [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

Maestro — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:25:01 GMT

Maestro: /* The Blue Ones */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts lthat have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005
*'''No!'''No, you people are SO technical! Think of what a normal person just watching the toon would see! He's running fast, everything around him is a blur, so you wouldn't notice it! Of course they didn't use one, but they don't have to there. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Too obvious, more than likely deliberate, and not all that "fun" in any case. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even if they're a bit similar, it's nothing worth noting. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
***'''Seconded.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Sorry, Declined!''' This guy is dumb. Obviously the blue ones do NOT mean blue cold ones or blue numbers. It means a blue item with THIS NUMBER:1. All of us probably use this type of language all the time. For example:I already have those ones![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' Actually a very good catch. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' though that show was hosted by a British guy there are a lot of real life PBS shows hosted by British people, like almost every NOVA episode ever made [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)